Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 23 2025 - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Clay.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Have you heard of the Rio Reset?

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, it.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Can he give us some inside intel?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account,
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by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and
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(01:38):
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Speaker 3 (01:44):
Welcome in thirday edition. Clay Sure Wednesday, dang it, dang it,
way right off the top, Right off the top.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I thought it was Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I've been trying to set up a dinner with Julie Talbot,
our boss, and I was thinking, oh no, what day
is it? Wan A rough start for me, Right off
the Times Wednesday, it's Wednesday. For anybody out there that
might have been like, oh no, Buck's actually going to
be out Thursday and Friday, So maybe that'll make it
a little bit easier celebrating his dad's birthday. Congratulations, happy

(02:17):
birthday early to mister Secman.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And you see some photos posted, you'll see that, yes,
the hair is genetic. He's got a great out of
hair for seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I was about to say, as I said that, am
I going to go over to right off the top?
Is this a big surprise birthday celebration? And I was
going to get the day wrong and below the surprise
all within the space of a minute. But I do
not think that I managed to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Nope, geatt in a time. All right, well done, sir.
We got a big show to do. We got a
big show. We're two radio professionals with a fantastic show
to do, Clay.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And it's possible I'll even know what day it is
by the time we finish. All Right, bunch of things
to get into here. Russia Gate has exploded. More of
the internal documents released by d and I told Gabbard,
we will discuss what we think is happening there tons
of attention in Idaho. The courtroom where Brian Coberger, this

(03:10):
murderer of four innocent college kids, he agreed to plead guilty.
It does not appear, unfortunately, we'll get into this a
little bit, that he is going to explain anything about
exactly what went on there. As part of his plea deal,
he avoids the death penalty, but there does not seem
to be any requirement that he address the families and

(03:32):
explain the entirety of what went on with this story.
It's an awful story. We've talked about it some over
the past several years. The victim impact statements currently underway
live on television being covered on Fox News and other networks.
So we will talk some about that case. Our friend

(03:53):
Sonny Hostin at the View says that Stephen Colbert threat
being fired, threatens the constitution. We will likely have some
fun with the dumbest show on television.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Can we produceer rally? You know, we don't ever pitch
ourselves for shows because you know, people ask us, because
that's nice. Just reach out to whatever contact you can
find in the view and say that Clay and Buck
would love to come hang with the ladies. One day,
we got we got to offer this up. We got
to offer this up.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I would it's the number one show that I would
most like to go on, because I think all of
you would enjoy the fireworks that would ensue, especially because
they have a live studio audience. But we start off
with the continuing fallout. Obama issued a statement yesterday evening
saying I have no idea what Trump is talking about. Basically,

(04:39):
I haven't done anything wrong, and I do think that
we talked about this yesterday, and I am open to
being told that I am wrong, as I always am.
I've been married for twenty years, eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. But my question for
you guys is this for people who want to wait,

(05:00):
I believe that the twenty sixteen Russia collusion lies definitely
were intentional. I think they were built as a way
to delegitimize Trump on taking office. I think the media
took it and ran with it, hook line and sinker.
And in that mind, let me play this flashback just

(05:21):
to take you back for those of you who have
forgotten to what twenty seventeen television news sounded like this
is cut.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
For Russia hacking the election to elect Trump.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
What is the end of our brass Three votes were
definitely affected, But you're Russia hacked the election to tilt
it to mister Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
The Russians definitively hacked the election. Russia did hack the election,
no doubt.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
The Russians hacked the election.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
Yes, Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 8 (05:45):
Backed Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
President elect Donald Trump still not sounding convinced that Russia
hacked the elections. If we find out that Donald Trump
just theoretically was colluding with Russia while they were hacking
the election, that is completely impeachable.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
This dossier alleges a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and
the Russian effort to hack the election.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
The director of National Intelligence, the head of the National
Security Agency, the head of the FBI, all of these
intelligence experts saying Russia hacked the election.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
The FBI, the CIA, NSA, the former Director of National Intelligence,
James Clapperman.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
They've all said this.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
So to believe that that's wrong, you have to believe
they're all involved in an elaborate conspiracy to get Donald Trump,
which seems a little far fetched to me.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay, so they said that they hacked the election, they intentionally.
As I said, they're so good about language because they'll say, well,
there's a lot of ways that the election could be hacked.
They hacked Hillary Clinton's cell phone, that doesn't mean that
they hacked into the vote totals and changed them. That
doesn't mean that hacked. Doesn't mean necessarily that they change

(06:49):
the outcome of the election. Hacked is a broad verb
that they are going to use aggressively here. But I
just I think a lot of people, and Buck you
can sign on or sign off of this opinion. I
think a lot of people are getting fired up believing
that there are going to be major consequences. Now, what

(07:10):
is it nine years after much of this happened, eight
years after much of this happened, And I'm just here
to tell you I don't think you're going to see
charges of anybody in a position of power, now, Uh
do you? Would you agree with that in general? That
I already said that from the beginning. I mean, this
is I don't I keep asking friends of mine. I mean,

(07:31):
I'll tell you this. I have spoken to Maga lawyer,
friends of mine, not who work for the administration, but
are as pro Trump as anybody, as pro Trump as
any of you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, I mean I have a few. I have a
few friends, in particular lawyers, and they are Wow, they
love Trump. And I said, forget about what you should
do for a second ethically here whether you should bring
the charge or not. Tell me how you could bring
the charge. I think that's the real question. Yeah, that's
what I keep coming to. And I've said deprivation of rights,

(08:02):
but I think the statute on that may be a problem.
Statute of limitations. I've said, there's some others who say
maybe seditious conspiracy. I think the statute on that could
be a problem. And you have to look at these things.
We have all these different trip wires, so to speak,
that are in the system already, and you'd have to

(08:23):
get around those to try to get any justice at
the time. And as we've already discussed, Look, I promise
you Barack Obama's not spending a minute in jail, nor
Isy even going to be prosecuted by any federal authority.
That's not going to happen. Okay. So I wish that
you know, there had been justice, but there was not.
I said this about ben Ghazi. People remember, oh, Hillary Clinton,

(08:44):
she's going to go to prison.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Actually she ended up being the Democrat nominee. After ben Ghazi.
People got very mad at me. But I'm pretty good
at seeing where this stuff is going. So yes, Clay,
you and I are an agreement that it is very
unlikely if we're wrong, we'll come on and say it.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't know what though. There's the
political cal and that's the other part of this. There's
the political calculus, which I think also applies to all
the Biden dementia cover up stuff. The political calculus is, wow,

(09:10):
look at how dishonest these Democrats really were on Russia collusion.
Part of the problem, Clay, I think is for people
like you and me who have been who followed it
for a long time previously, there's nothing that's going to
come out that surprises me. If John Brennan as CIA director,
sent an email to the Obama Principles, which would be
you know, the top people in the Obama cabinet saying, hey, guys,

(09:33):
Russia collusions fake, but man, this is going to really
mess up the Trump administration, I would say, yeah, of course.
I mean, there's nothing that can come out. I already
know that that's what they were doing. So now you
get to will you have any proof of it, I mean,
any criminal indictments. I think probably not, But it is
good for people to know the extent of the Khan.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
To me, we're basically writing a history book so that
people can understand what actually happened. Let me ask you,
you've worked in intelligence a long time. Obama is now
not using the word hacked. They're using the word manipulate.
How many elections in the lives of everybody out there
listening right now? Do you think Russia or the Soviet Union,

(10:16):
or do ussr whatever group you want to call them,
has attempted to manipulate that have occurred in the United States.
My argument, I want to hear your art. My argument
would be every single one. They have tried to manipulate
the outcome in some way of every election that has
occurred in the lives of anybody out there listening. So
the idea that they tried to turn this into an

(10:38):
unprecedented level of Russian success and a Russian attempt I.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Just don't buy it.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
You don't think in the Cold War that Russia was
trying to manipulate everything they could relating to American politics.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, the Soviet Union was funding. First of all, the
Soviet Union was running Communist spies at very high levels
of the United States government. That is a fee Another fact,
Nixon was an anti communist hero. Stop believing the Watergate
you know, deep throat, Oh my gosh, Woodward and Bernstein,

(11:09):
Nixon's the worst person ever. Nixon was actually really good
on anti communism because there were absolutely high level Communist
penetrations of the United States government. And guess who they
always were going to? Democrats? Guess where they were always
finding sympathetic ears labor unions. Guess where they were always
looking to exploit divisions in this country race politics. The
Soviet Union was doing this for decades. And the thing

(11:32):
is it was always the Democrat Party that was the
entry point for those Communist manipulations of our system. So
we don't get taught this in school, but the record
is quite clear. The Venona Project is quite clear. You
can go check that one out secret for decades, letting
us know how high level the secret program, letting us
know how high level of Communist penetrations of the United
States government were. So also go read Witnessed by Whittaker Chambers,

(11:57):
a book that far more people should have read and
be familiar with. So I throw all this out there, Clay,
because yeah, of course there's efforts to involve the you know,
think of all the NGOs around the world. Think of
all the different heads of state who weigh in publicly
in the media saying they want this or that candidate
in the United States. What happens all the time. So

(12:17):
the idea that Russia had figured out some ingenious way
to skew a multi billion dollar media, you know, media
frenzy in this country in terms of the spending with
one hundred grand on Facebook is completely insane. But as
I've said, it really is a it's a lie of
degree that they were engaged in. Right, So if I

(12:39):
tell somebody, you know, Clay, if I tell somebody that
I've poured a glass of boiling water in the ocean,
I could say that I've I've attempted to change the
temperature of the ocean. That would be that would be
an honest statement. It's insane because you would never be
able to register it. But you could say that there
was an attempt made to change the temperature of the ocean.

(13:00):
And that's essentially what they did with these Facebook ads.
And with the intelligence community review, they took something so
insignificant that no person could think that it matters, or
it would be like saying, Clay Clay, have you ever jaywalked?
Have you ever jaywalked before? Clay? Yes? Yeah, So Clay
has just admitted to breaking the law. Should I just
refer to Clay Travis as a criminal from now on?

(13:21):
I've also jaywalked. Should I refer to myself as a
criminal from now on? It's a lie of degree, a
lie of severity, And that's what they did with Russia
collusion from the start.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Okay, So I think the significance here is you can
correct the historic record. You can further delegitimize the legacy
media who took this swill and treated it as if
it were the honest truth. You could maybe investigate whether
there were classified documents that were improperly leaked. We know
that that is typically a very hard case to make.

(13:55):
I think that ultimately people out there who are expecting, hey,
we're gonna get a Obamba Purp walked, We're gonna get
Hillary Clinton held accountable and arrested for her misdeeds. We're
gonna get Clapper or Comy whoever, you want to point
to in the larger intelligence community. I don't think any

(14:15):
of them are gonna get charged with crimes. Now, could
I be wrong? Yes, you are open to tell me
where I am wrong. But I don't want this to
turn into a Lucy and Charlie Brown type situation. I
don't want this to be the flip side of when
every time a new story came out about Trump for

(14:35):
the last decade, everybody on the left said we've got
him now.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh, we finally got him. And he was always Charlie.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I mean, they were always Charlie Brown running up and
Lucy pulled away the football at the last possible moment.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And then take you can take it even a step further,
Clay with just the process problems. Let's say there's a
statute they want to use and a prosecutor we all
know the old can indict a ham Sandwich, maybe a
the prosecutor will find some way to do this. You're
gonna bring the case. You have to bring the case
in DC or else the whole thing will look incredibly rigged.
You're gonna get a DC jury to that's my question.
Indict First of all, Obama totally off limits. Was the President.

(15:13):
That's not happening. Anyone who tells you otherwise is just
lying to you. Okay, that's not happening. But even someone
like John Brennan, you think a DC jury's gonna say, yeah,
let's throw this old guy in prison because he thought
he was I'm thinking from their perspective, he thought he
was defending the republic by standing up to Donald Trump.
You think any DC jury is gonna It's just not

(15:33):
gonna happen. So it's important to set the record straight.
It's important the American people know because of the political
questions at issue here. But legally speaking, I think there's
a high hurdle. And if I'm wrong on this, you know,
you can blame my non existent law degree.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, if I'm wrong on it, you can definitely blame uh,
blame my law degree in person. But I think you're
one hundred percent right. There's no way they're gonna indict
in the district, the District of Columbia in Democrat officials.
I mean, it's almost impossible. I think on behalf of Trump.
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
Right Welcome back into Clay and Bock. We are about
to dive into the economy. But first, Crewsier Alley's birthdays tomorrow.
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Speaker 6 (17:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
And we also have some good things to talk about
on the economy. Clay, So I was going.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
We do stock market new record highs. As you know,
I pretty much check the stock market constantly during the
course of of the day, and we're at new all
time highs because of very positive economic news out there.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I just think it's worth taking a moment to review
some of the Trump economic decisions from this past six
months or so. Trump says, we are getting shafted by
the trade deals that we currently have. Everybody says, I
say everybody in quotes, but you know what I mean,

(18:24):
the consensus, the consensus, including a lot of people in
the right, say oh no, you can't do this. Gonna
it's gonna create trade wars, and there's gonna be a
huge shop in the stock market, and all these terrible
things will happen. There's a momentary blip, if you will,
in the stock market drops a bit, comes back, roaring back,

(18:44):
and now it's higher than it's ever been. And on
top of that, you've got some big trade deals that
have gotten done that are going to affect the economy.
Are going to do things that I think will be
really beneficial for the American people, you know, Trump, there's
a lot of a lot of talk around some of
these issues of let's say, transparency and fighting back against

(19:06):
the deep state, and that's all very important, but let's
not lose sight of the fact that a fantastic Trump
economy is one of the core promises. You know, we
voted for this, right, we voted for a fantastic economy.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And here you go.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Here he is announcing this has cut seventeen. That the
trade deal that just got done with Japan, obviously a
major economic powerhouse play seventeen.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
They just signed the largest trade deal in history, I
think maybe the largest deal in history with Japan.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that was done with Japan.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
They had the top people here and we worked on
it long and hard, and it's a great deal for everybody.
I always say it has to be great for everybody.
It's a great deal. A lot different from the deals
in the past, I can tell you that. But we're
doing really well as a country. Was strong, we have
a lot of money flowing in. The tariffs are kicked
in better than anybody other than me and a few

(19:59):
of the people in the room, So it could happen.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
So Clay. It sets tariffs, reciprocal tariffs at fifteen percent,
five hundred and fifty billion dollars. Japan's going to invest
in the United States auto tariffs on Tokyo fifteen percent.
Like I said, a few other parts of this that
you can look at more specifically, but basically overall looks

(20:23):
like a very good deal. Trump's certainly really excited about it,
and I think it could have some positive impact on
the economy. In addition to this, one of the things
that the consensus kept saying was it's going to raise
your prices. And here's Scott Besson. He was on MSNBC
this morning. Is that where this clip is from gus
Because I was actually watching this in real time, I

(20:44):
think that I just out that I was watching some
Morning Joe this morning. I think, will I think I
just let that slip on the air. I was, I was,
I'm sorry. It happens. It's a habit. It's hard to
break that habit. Here it is nineteen play Scott bessont.

Speaker 11 (20:59):
Who pays it? Tariffs is a choice, And what we've
seen thus far is that the manufacturers are eating a
substantial portion of the tariffs and taking it into their
profit margins. So you might see, for instance, Toyota hasn't
raised prices, and they may choose to go for market

(21:21):
share rather than raising prices.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Clay all these things that a lot of people said
that Trump was wrong on doesn't look wrong yet.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Also reports that we're close to a trade deal with
the EU that would be very favorable to the United States.
As well. I think one of the great stories that
just kind of slid under the radar was that we
actually had one of the first balanced budgets in years
in June, the month that just passed, and we're on

(21:53):
track to bring in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs,
and right now now there appears to be zero significant
inflationary pressure related to it. And I saw a story
this morning, let me give you, let me give a
positive shout out again. Marjorie Taylor Green not going to

(22:13):
agree with everybody on everything, but she is introduced to
Bill and team in New York.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Make sure that I'm getting this one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
That would eliminate capital gains taxes on the cell of
your primary residence. One of the big challenges that the
Trump team has recognized is the housing market is completely
frozen in many respects because Biden's economic stewardship took us
from two and a half three percent mortgages almost overnight

(22:42):
to seven percent, a rapid raise the likes of which
we haven't seen in a very long time. And I
come back to it all the time because I think
it's foundational in the economy right now that until rates
back up to around five percent. A lot of you
out there. In fact, you can flood my mentions right now.
And let me know, if you bought a home and
you have a two and a half percent mortgage rate

(23:02):
out there, you're never going to give it up, even
if you've added kids, even if your kids have gone
away to college, because in order to sell your home,
you have to pay capital gains tax and you would
have to trade in potentially one low rate mortgage for
a seven percent mortgage. And Marjorie Taylor Green, I think
this is a really good idea. They're talking about eliminating

(23:24):
capital gains taxes on your primary residence. Let me give
another shout out. Ron DeSantis is asking a question that
I think is a really good question. Why should you
have to pay property taxes every year when you buy
a home. It's a lot of our taxes are just
embedded and nobody goes back and ever looks at them
and says, boy, does that really make sense. I mentioned
yesterday on the program I do this show Monday to Friday.

(23:49):
The government gets every dollar I make Monday and Tuesday.
I work for the United States government on Monday and Tuesday.
Every day on this program, they get every dollar that
I make, and a lot of you out there, whatever
you do for a living, the government gets every dollar that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You make on Monday and Tuesday two.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Does that make sense like that? That's a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'm working really hard for the federal government out there
to take all the money that I make on Monday
and Tuesday all year round the rest of my life.
And a lot of you are paying fourteen percent state
income taxes in California or New York or Illinois, and
a lot of you are paying huge property tax bills
such that over half of your money goes to the

(24:30):
government every year.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I think we need to be dialing that back.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
The Trump tax cuts are helping, but we've also embedded
a huge percentage of this. And if we could take
away the capital gains tax on homes, I think it
would help to free the housing market and make that
more lubricated, easier to trade.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
There are some challenges in the housing market, and specifically
home ownership and first time homeowners and the barriers to
homes to buying homes four hundred and thirty five thousand
dollars the Wall Street Journal is the national median existing
home price four hundred and thirty five thousand dollars. Now,

(25:11):
if you look at the average household income, which I
think in the US is was like six sixty.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I think it's up to like seventy seventy seven. I
mean again, household how you define it, But at average
household is about seventy seventy five k I think. Now,
but you look at seventy let's say, let's say seventy
ish thousand dollars a year average household income, and you
look at a four hundred and thirty five thousand, our
medium price house with a interest rate of close to
seven six six point six or something six point eight,

(25:41):
depends on your credit score obviously, and all that, it's
really tough to buy a home. It's really tough for
the average American right now to buy a For the
average American family to buy an average priced American home
is a big challenge. Stephen Moore, well known economist, Wall
Street journal guy, friend of the Trump administration. He said

(26:02):
something about this that I think is getting some attention.
He's saying that there are a lot of boomers sitting
on very expensive housing that they should sell.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'm just telling you what Steven Moore saying cut eighteen eighteen,
play it.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
The one thing probably everybody at this table can agree
on is we do have a housing problem in this
country and we need you know, especially for people like
I have two sons that are in the early thirties.
That's about the time when people start talking about buying
a house. They can't They can't afford a house right now.
Housing is so expensive.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
So this is one.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Way you could maybe make housing more affordable, encourage older
people to sell out. By the way, what I would
do is I would index capital gains for inflation. Somebody
who bought a house in the seventies for one hundred thousand,
that house is probably worth what five hundred thousand dollars
today and most of that gain was just due to inflation.
So we want to encourage people to sell their homes
as they get older and free up housing for younger people.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Okay, this is important, and I know it sounds like
we're going into some nerd talk here when it comes
to the economy, But I think Trump.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Gets this now. Housing costs matters to everybody. I think Clay,
I think everyone sees this as a big challenge, a
big concern.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
If you can he said index capital gains when you
sell your home. A lot of people because this is
the reality, and I'm sure some of you have thought
through this. He mentioned you buy a home in the
nineteen seventies for one hundred K. Let's say that house
is worth seven hundred k. Now, which is not crazy.
You would owe capital gains tax if you sold it
on some of that income.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
In the middle.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I think there's a five hundred thousand dollars wipeout, right.
But so if you die, your heirs take the home
at the value that it is on that day, So
instead of having to pay capital gains tax, they take
it at Let's say that one hundred thousand dollars house
now worth seven hundred k, your heirs take it at

(27:53):
seven hundred k.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well, you out there.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Living in that house might have thought, hey, you know what,
it's time to sell. But I don't want to have
to give the government capital gains tax on this. We
should wipe out capital gains on primary residents. I think
it would drastically improve the overall housing market. I think
that people would buy and sell homes more freely, and

(28:18):
I think it's a no brainer. I give credit to
Marjorie Taylor Green. I think it would help a lot
of people. And by the way, we also need to
get mortgage rates back down to a round five percent.
I was looking at my mentions right after I said that,
a bunch of you reached out, sent me messages, hopped
in and said, Clay, you just nailed me. I got
a two and a half percent mortgage. I just had
another kid. Hey, my kid just left for college. Your

(28:40):
family circumstances changed. I need to be in a new
school district. I can't afford to sell my home, potentially
pay capital gains tax on it and take on a
seven percent mortgage. It's broken the housing market. The best
thing we can do for the economy is fix it.
This is where Trump is right about the Jerome Powell.
We need to bring back down rate and start to

(29:01):
balance out that crazy increase that we saw from around
two and a half percent to seven.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Or the other option is to and I'm actually in
favor of this in a lot of ways, especially in
a lot of cities or in an expensive suburbs around cities,
you go for multi generational housing setup where if you
have the space, you know, you get the grandparents living
with the parents living with the kids, or you know,
if you can. It depends on how much base we're

(29:27):
talking about here. That's very common in some places in Europe.

Speaker 12 (29:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Europe is far less wealthy per capital than America is,
which I think people often forget about. Their fancy baguettes
and espressos do not make up for the fact that
Americans are far wealthier on average than all you really,
all major European countries. I should say, you know, if
you have these spaces, don't have air conditioning.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
This was an article in the Wall Street Journal this
morning that how hot it is they don't.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Even have air conditioning.

Speaker 12 (29:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, now did you see there. They're trying to say
something about there's a like a thermal shock, but cold
shock from air conditioning is bad for you. They're trying
to say, yeah, fifteen difference. I'm like, we don't even
want you a stupid air conditioning. Get the necessary for us. No, no, no, Jacques,
I'm sorry, you want the air conditioning, my man, take
the beret off. Let the air conditioning flow.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I don't hear very many Southerners who say, you know what,
it's one hundred degrees outside in July and August, you know,
what I'd really like. I'd like to feel it inside
of my home. No, I'll take the I'll take the
air conditioning. I would argue air conditioning. Where does air
is a good question? Is a fun debate. You're about
to go off on vacation. We could save this sometime.
Where does air conditioning rank on greatest inventions of all time?

(30:38):
Just in terms of improving the overall quality of life?
You wouldn't live in Miami if air conditioning didn't exist.
Zero percent chance.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Zero chance. Well, this is why it wasn't. Miami wasn't
a year round town until pretty recently. Yes, right, I
mean it's kind of really post World War Two. Before that,
it was a place where people would go, uh in
the winter time. South, the whole South was revolutionized by
air conditioning because otherwise it was too brutal. I know
everybody's like climate change, climate change. Yeah, talk to your

(31:08):
my parents, talk about how hot it was in the
summer and you have to sleep outside in Tennessee. You
know it was. It didn't cool off very much. Trump
Administration's working hard to make our economy grow. We're just
talking about it. Great things are happening, but you still
have to make the right choices for you as an
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earned dollars that you are accumulating is where gold comes in.

(31:31):
Gold just makes sense. Look at gold up forty percent
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over time. With thirty seven trillion dollars a debt still accumulating,
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Speaker 3 (32:35):
So we are waiting on Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky
to join us a lot of different stories. We have
been discussing Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference right now
to discuss the Russia Gate documents that have been released.
We need to get Tulsi on the program. Producer Ali
Buck met with her recently. I would have except I

(32:58):
didn't have the real ID, so I couldn't get into
the meeting, which is very part for the course play.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Showed up at the Velvet roa if He's like, come on, man,
I know Trump, and they were like, you're not on
the list. Look at those flip flops.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I this is the only thing I've been turned away
from for not having a real ID. Now I travel
with my passport. I do have a passport, but for
some reason the State of Tennessee licenses. I would have
to make an appointment and spend a whole day to
get a star on my ID. So I haven't been
willing to do it. But Buck met with Tulsi we
met with a bunch of people in the intelligence agencies

(33:32):
under Trump. We will get Tulsi on the program again
sometime in the future, and we are monitoring this press
conference and we will glab grab a lot of the
audio that she is sharing right now. Other news as
we have talked about major trader deals being announced, and
we now have been joined by Senator Ran Paul who

(33:53):
is with us, and Senator appreciate you joining us. I'll
just ask the big question right off the top. You
got Tulca Gabbard coming out with Russia Gate. You have
been documents that seem to show that the truth was
known and not shared with the American public as it
pertains to Russia's involvement in the twenty sixteen election. You

(34:15):
have been trying to hold doctor Anthony Fauci accountable for
a very long time over the lies that I think
we believe he told under oath relating to COVID and
American gain A function research and all these things. I
would say the number one question that Buck and I
get on a regular basis is we see all the evidence.
We believe that there is ample evidence there for charges

(34:37):
to be brought. Yet all of these people in positions
of power never have charges brought against them. They can
find anybody who walked into the Capitol on January sixth
and arrest them and throw the book at them. But
if you're super powerful and you're on the left side
of the political equation, nothing ever happens to you, will anything.
Are you as frustrated as our average listener would be

(34:59):
O this?

Speaker 12 (35:01):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (35:02):
And you know I sensed the frustration, and I see
some of the responses on our social media. What are
you gonna do? When are you going to arrest Bauci?
People do have to realize I have no ability to
arrest anyone, but the Department of Justice does, and I've
done everything I can. I referred Vauci twice under Biden.
I presumed they would ignore it, but now I have
referred him, most recently just in the last week, to

(35:26):
the Trump Department of Justice.

Speaker 12 (35:27):
And there needs to be a human.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Cry that he needs to be prosecuted. I think he
clearly lied to Congress. The other thing is is it
would bring up his pardon, and then I think in
court we need to have a test case to see
if a auto pen signature is a valid pardon.

Speaker 12 (35:44):
I think there would be then in.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Court the discussion of who ran the auto pen, who
gave them the orders? You know, I think so far
we know the person running the auto pen says some
guy that worked for Joe Biden told him to do it,
and so ultimately you'd have to have the test you
could have.

Speaker 12 (36:00):
Essentially, I think bring in.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
The testimony of ultimately either the the you know, the
President's wife or the president. It'll be hard to get
them into court, but this would be a test case
of whether that part and holds.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Senator Paul always appreciate you being with us. I want
to ask you about the FED one. I know, I
think you want to get more of a look into
the books at the FED. But can you also speak
to the what is it a two billion dollar renovation
that the Federal Reserves Washington, d C Headquarters has gotten.
You know, I know in DC money has a whole

(36:37):
different meaning or lack of meeting depending, but two billion
dollars for renal, that's pretty pricey stuff. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Well, you know, the Federal Reserve doesn't even have congressional
oversight as far as the power of the purse they
just printed up. They've got their own printing press, and
they spend whatever they feel like spending. And so they
started out at one point nine billion, and they're six
hundred over they' show up to two point five billion.
They're six hundred thousand dollars or a thirty three percent
increase in over over the original estimate. But you know,

(37:09):
you want to talk about real money. The thing the
Federal Reserve is doing right now that offends me more
than anything else is they are paying big banks in
New York and around the world not to loan money.
It's a program that started in two thousand and nine.
They were paying banks I got a quarter of a
point or half a point not to loan money, and
it was it was money, but it wasn't huge amounts.

(37:31):
Now they're paying them four point four percent as of
about a week or two ago, and that four point
four percent equals one hundred and eighty eight billion dollars,
and forty percent of that money is going to foreign banks.
So it's not only the Federal Reserve, you know, holds
the American debt, so we have to raise taxes to
pay the Federal Reserve interest. They get our interest, then
they're paying our interest back to big banks. To tell

(37:53):
them not to loan money. It's the craziest scam you've
ever heard of, But it's.

Speaker 12 (37:57):
Real money now.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
And you know, there's nothing that unites to right and
the left. It's when taxpayer money or government controlled money
like this is going from the regular middle class to
the very wealthy elite, not only of our country but
of the world.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
We're talking to center Ram Paul of Kentucky. What did
you think of Andy Basheer's Vogue photo shoot.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
You know, I think he's running for Secretary of Transportation.
I think he really wants to be the next beat
buddhaj Edge, so I think he's got a great shot
at it.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I couldn't believe.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I was looking at these photos and I just thought
to myself, who in Kentucky is thinking, Hey, you know,
I really want to see a Vogue photo shoot of
the governor and I when I saw this, I was like, oh,
I bet because I remember you came on with this
last time, said he's going to try to run for president.
But I just look at this guy. He's one of
the worst governors out there to do that, to sign
off on the Vogue photo shoot, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Was real.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Well, here's the real question. Did Vogue actually ask him
about vetoing a bill that would have stopped op sex
Chaine surgeries for miners? So our Republican legislature put for
him a bill to no longer have miners not allow
miners to make a decision to have this permanent surgery,
and he vetoed it, so our Republican legislature and president

(39:15):
of them promptly overrode him. But this guy is not
part of the mainstream. He's part of extreme left, and
he got lucky somehow to win in our state. But
there's nothing about him that is moderate. He is as
progressive as the day is long.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Senator Paul. Something that's gotten a bit of attention today
has to do with the president's ability to get his
appointees in place, particularly on the judiciary side, and when
it comes to US attorneys, as the Trump administration appointed
Elena Hobba, one of Trump's lawyers, to be the US

(39:50):
attorney in New Jersey. A US attorney in New Jersey,
judges there decided Democrat appointed judges no shock to anyone
that she was on unacceptable and they just picked someone else.
Now that I understand is getting a bit specific into
what's going on in New Jersey, But how is it
going with Senate confirmation of various appointees and specifically for

(40:13):
judicial nominees, because that's such a critical thing to be
functioning efficiently. And I am hearing some complaints from people
who well work right near you on Capitol Hill about
Senate Leader Thoon and not getting this thing done with
the efficiency and you know, absolute sense of urgency that

(40:35):
it needs to be done.

Speaker 12 (40:38):
You know.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
The good news is is that we've actually approved twice
as many as we had in twenty seventeen when Trump
won in twenty seventeen. By this time in the summer
of the first year, we had approved about fifty five
I think grew up over one hundred and ten. So
it's a slow, laborious process, and the Democrats are worse
than they've ever been in the sense that it typically

(40:58):
and historically, the leadership would sit down from each party
at the end of the week, they'd agree to a
list of ten or fifteen that pass them all together
in one group I voice vote. None of that happens anymore.
So we have like fifteen hundred Trump appointees. We've got
to vote on them one at a time.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
Most of them we have to.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Wait two hours we vote to get onto the bill
to vote for him, and then two hours later to
confirm them. And so it's laborious. But the good news
is we've done twice as many as we did in
twenty seventeen. So I think given the Democrats opposition and obstruction,
I think we're doing pretty well.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
What should happen with the Russia Gate. We've got Tulca
Gabbert having a press conference right now. You went through
all of this in the attempt to delegitimize Trump's election
in twenty sixteen, I said on the air, I actually
think the twenty twenty actions that we're done to try
to argue from the fifty one intelligence agents, the hunter

(41:54):
Biden laptop, not releasing the fact that maybe we thought
back then, hey, we've got a successful vaccine. There were
a lot of things that could have been out publicly
that could have swung this election a big way. I
think twenty twenty was rigged substantially. But what should happen
associated with twenty sixteen in your mind, both practically and
if you had an ideal world, right, because there's the

(42:16):
reality of what can happen and what should happen. How
would you distinguish between those two?

Speaker 6 (42:22):
You know, I always look at things in general terms.
I'm horrified by what they did to Donald Trump, and
it should make everyone mad. But I'm also concerned about
average ordinary Americans and what they can do, and what
this power means could be done to average ordinary Americans.

Speaker 12 (42:35):
So I'm for taking that power away.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
You know, some people want Brennan in jail, they want
Obama in jail, and those things are unlikely to happen.
But the one thing we could do is the Congresses
take power away from the intelligence agencies. They should not
have this much power. I have always thought from the beginning,
I've said it publicly. I believe that Brennan called a
foreign governments and used their intelligence agencies on the Trump campaign.

(43:01):
You remember these random meetings in the bar with different
Trump campaign officials. I don't believe they were random. I
think they were planned, and I think because it's illegal
for our CIA to investigate americans, much less americans involved
in politics, I think they got our allies in on it,
and I think there is a bit a massive cover

(43:22):
up from the very beginning on this. I do think
what she's pointing out, what Tilsea Gilbert has said, is
incredibly important. The assessment by all of the intelligence agencies
after twenty sixteen is that the Russians, like they always do,
tried to mess with our elections, but that it was ineffectual.
It was tiny, it was minute, It was some Facebook
ads and did not affect the outcome. That was the conclusion.

(43:46):
But then that conclusion was vetoed by Brennan and high
ranking people because they chose to create a narrative that
the election was stolen, that the election was illegitimate. Hillary
Clinton said it, Jimmy Carter said it, all the leading
Democrats said that Trump was an illegitimate president. And what
they did is they then seeded information throughout all of

(44:07):
the government to try to start this narrative that there
was a Russian collusion. One of the most bizarre parts
of this is the Hillary Clinton campaign pays for the
Steele dossier that has this so called incriminating information and
if they give it to our government, but then they
also send Steel to Halifax, Nova Scotia, to meet John

(44:28):
McCain and secretly give him the file as well. He
comes back to Washington takes the bait is all hysterical,
and then gives it back to government. But that's where
it started, so the government commissioned Steele.

Speaker 12 (44:40):
To go back.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
It starts with the Clinton campaign. This Christopher Steele, a
former spy, collects all this nonsense, puts it in the folder,
gives it to John McCain, who breathlessly races back to
Washington to help get the thing started. But this was
a big psy ops. This was a big operation by
intelligence community, and of course it was illegal. And I'm
proud of Telsea Gabbard for getting to the bottom and

(45:03):
I hope she continues to overturn and expose this corruption.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Transparency is incredibly important on this, So Senator Paul, we
agree with you wholeheartedly on that. Do you think it
is feasible, not even likely, but feasible that anybody could
be put in handcuffs based on what they did with
Russia collusion.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
You know, they'll all tell a different tale, and you know,
changing an intelligence report, they'll say they got other information.
It's going to be hard to.

Speaker 12 (45:34):
Put anybody in jail on that.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
But the main thing I we've looked for in this
is trying to fix the system.

Speaker 12 (45:42):
So it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
So what we should conclude from this is intelligency agencies
have the power to destroy individuals, and so there needs
to be more checks and balances and less ability of
an intelligence agency to investigate Americans. This goes along with
the FISA database that they have, which a lot of
Americans are sucked up into the system. It goes along
with that Quiet Sky's program where they were spying on

(46:06):
Tulsa Gabbard when she was on planes. There's so much
abuse and nobody in Congress knows anything about what the
intelligence agencies do other than to the Intelligence Committee in
the Senate and the House, and they silo off the
information and they try to prevent any other members from
knowing exactly what they're doing. Their budgets are secret. It's
very like pulling teeth to get any kind of look

(46:28):
at any of their budgets. So, yeah, there's too much power.
And we went through this after JEdgar Hoover, and he
was using the power of the office to blackmail people.
He was using the power of the office to illegally
spy on people. And there were big reforms in the seventies,
but since the nineteen seventies, the reforms that weren't off,
and the intelligence agencies have grown.

Speaker 12 (46:48):
Too strong again.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
What they did to Donald Trump should be a call,
a clarion call for US to reform them and strip
back their power.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Senator Ran Paul, appreciate you makingod time for us, Sir.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
On the real ID, Clay, I gotta tell you, if
you stand in the line to get the chip put in,
they can insert that chip in no time at all,
and there's no line.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I don't even know what that means. I feel like
this is a joke. You're so dead panting it there
that I was like, you don't.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Get an either line. But no. It took me three
months to get the damn real ID, and they kept
refusing to give it to me because some of my
documents said Randall and not rand and they weren't sure
I was who I was presenting myself to be.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I this drives me.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
You go in and out of Nashville like I do,
because you live in Kentucky, but this drives me absolutely bonkers.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Appreciate the time.

Speaker 12 (47:41):
I hate it. I hate it.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
I hate it, and we fought it for years and
years of Kentucky, and finally they take away your right
to travel. Apparently the right to travel is a privilege
and you can only travel under the government auspices. It's
a step in the wrong direction.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Hey man, all right, Senator Paul, thank you so much. Clay. Also,
that deadpan when I I had no idea that was a.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Joke, Well he got me.

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Speaker 1 (49:32):
We got a ton of stuff poppin'.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
You just heard us with Senator Ran Paul Tulsey Gabbard
at the White House briefing at the Rosterrum there beside
Caroline LeVert Levitt said a couple of different things that
I want to play for you.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
First.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
This is a ten minute roughly discussion, So we're pulling
a couple of minutes out of this. I just retweeted
the full ten minutes. I would encourage you guys to
go watched the full ten minutes for yourselves, and you
can go to at Clay Travis on Twitter. You can
find it. The Trump White House has shared it. But again,
I always want you to listen to everything in totality.

(50:11):
But here are two different cuts. Here is cut thirty one,
irrefutable evidence that Barack Obama and his national security team
knew that this evidence was false and directed its creation.
This is cut thirty one Tulsea Gabberd.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it
would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the
twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it
to the American people as though it were true.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
It wasn't.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
The report that we released today's shows in great detail
how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claim.
They disobeyed traditional trade craft, intelligence community standards and withheld
the truth from the American people. In doing so, they

(51:09):
conspired to subvert the will of the American people who
elected Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote
this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump
and launching what would be a year's long coup against
him and his administration. We're here today because the American

(51:29):
people deserve the truth.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Okay, how much smarter is Tulsi, by the way, than
Kamala Harris. Remember when they were trying to decide who's
going to be Biden's VP. Just think about that for
a moment as I continue to play these cuts. I
just want that in the back of your mind. These
are explosive allegations. They made a big mistake on that one. Oh,
she might be President of the United States right now
if they had chosen her as the VP and had

(51:52):
to elevate her.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I mean, if you want to fit amendmented old Joe,
I think possibly. I think you're right too, because she
sharp whatever you think of her. And remember she ran
for president as a Democrat, which is why I think
she's so effective here making this case.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
She ran in twenty twenty. She was a Democrat for
most of her life. Here she is saying, this is
a big Matzi ball. Here they have referred all of
this evidence to the Department of Justice that they believe
Obama committed crimes cut thirty two.

Speaker 8 (52:20):
If this new information implicates former President Obama and criminal behavior.
We have referred and will continue to refer all of
these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI
to investigate the criminal implications of this.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
For even the evidence correct.

Speaker 8 (52:37):
The evidence that we have found and that we have
released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of
this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and
intelligence that confirm that fact.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Okay, Clay, So here's here's maybe where this goes. Now
that I'm seeing them, like, you know, hey, dealing with
this in real time as it happens. They just just
so everyone's on the same page here. Criminal referrals the
DOJ about things like this happen all the time and
nothing comes of them. Just remember that, especially about things
like leaks, and a referral of the DOJ just means

(53:15):
it's almost like a tip. Hey, this is here, we
got this crime here, you should investigate it further, you know,
but that's it's very preliminary. Okay, so the referral is something,
but it's a one step in a very long journey.
But you could have Pam Bondi in I don't know,
a few weeks time, maybe sooner, whatever the timeline is,

(53:39):
come forward and say the DOJ has substantial evidence of
Barack Obama involved in what we believe was a suspicious
a seditious and suspicious, but a seditious conspiracy. However, we
know the Supreme Court has established an immunity for Obama's
official acts. So even though he was engaged and what

(54:00):
we think at this stage was criminal, the Department does
not think it would be in the interest of the
American people to go forward because prosecution would likely be impossible.
But you know'd be true. You get it all on
the record, right, you get it all out there. Look,
think we think Obama's a crook, but he was president,
so we can't do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Well, and that's going to frustrate people because it's basically
what happened with Hillary.

Speaker 12 (54:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
We think that there was a crime, but we don't
think we could prosecute. You also had basically Robert her
say that about Biden's handling of the classified documents, this
was criminal, but he's an old man with mush for brains,
and so we don't think a jury would convict him.
Here are some other cuts. I would say these are
landing like body blows. Cut thirty three Tulsi saying this

(54:48):
was a major disservice to the American people about Obama's statement.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
I think it's a disservice to the American people that
former President Obama's office and others who are criticizing the
transparency that is being delivered by releasing these documents, they
are doing a disservice to the American people and trying
to deflect away from their culpability in what is a
historic scandal and negative action towards the American people and

(55:14):
our democratic republic. The answer to that statement can very
clearly be found throughout all of the documents that we
have released, again showing that Russia has took action to
try to sew discord in the election, but showed no
preference for or against any singular candidate.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
In other words, and we're going to play this cut
because I think it ties in Russia was just a malefactor, right.
They just wanted to make America weaker. They didn't particularly
care how they weakened us, whether it was through Trump,
whether it was from Hillary. And I would argue this
is probably the most successful ever impact because what it's

(55:57):
done is Russia has sown tremendous discord in America about
our democratic processes, because that's exactly what they would have
wanted to do. Here, Tulsi is saying Russia believed that
Hillary Clinton had significant emotional problems according to the documents
they've uncovered.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Here's cut thirty four.

Speaker 8 (56:16):
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the
State Department to State Department employees who would go and
support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. There were high level DNC
emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems,
uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then
Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.

(56:41):
Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence
and relied on dubious, substandard sources to create a contrived,
false narrative that putin developed a quote unquote clear preference
for Trump. Brennan and the Ice misled lawmakers by referencing
the debunked Steele dossier to assess quote unquote Russia's plans
and in tensions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence

(57:03):
value when he knew that it was discredited.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Okay, let's keep going here because there's a lot of bombshells,
and then we'll react to him here as the show continues.
Here is Tulsi saying, the details of this are far reaching,
and it's clear to her that a president manufactured a
scandal to undermine the incoming administration.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Cut thirty five.

Speaker 8 (57:25):
This is a brief summary of the details that you'll
find within the House Majority Staff's report in their investigation
into the Obama directed January twenty seventeen intelligence community assessment
that leads us to the very same conclusion that we
announced in the release of our documents on Friday. The
implications of this are far reaching and have to do

(57:45):
with the integrity of our democratic republic. It has to
do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence
to undermine and usurp the will of the American people
in that election, and launch what would be a year
long coup against the incoming president of the United States, Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Okay, couple more cuts, because there's a lot here. You
mentioned Buck, the possibility what would the charges look like
treason is conspiracy was one of the things that you
referenced on the program. Cut thirty six is I believe
a discussion of that. Listen to President yesterday.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
You've inferred as the former president Helpley to coop based
on what you now see, do you believe President Obama
is guilty of treason?

Speaker 8 (58:28):
I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice.
I am not an attorney, but as I've said previously,
when you look at the intent behind creating a fake,
manufactured intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were
created by the intelligence community, the expressed intent and what

(58:50):
followed afterward can only be described as a year's long
coup and a treason. His conspiracy against the American people
are republic and an attempt to undermine President and Trump's administration.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Whoa, whoa, yeah, that's big barrels. That's okay, time now
I want to play this too. You're all hearing this.
I'm trying to play as much of what tools he said,
we are so you can all hear it. What would
happen if you were watching this on CNN they cut away.
This is important because what you hear and what we
hear is very different than what you might hear if

(59:25):
you watch CNN, MSNBC, read the New York Times, the
Washington Post. They're not getting told the full story. But
I thought this was good. You're going to hear CNN
say we got to cut away from this cut thirty seven.

Speaker 8 (59:36):
Multiple intelligence community assessments released in the months leading up
to the November twenty sixteen election concluded that Russia had
neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of
the US election. On December fifth.

Speaker 14 (59:49):
We've been listening there to the Director of National Intelligence,
Toolsey Gabbard, continuing on what has now been a multi
day effort not only with public statements like this, but
release of documents to attempt to back up the quite
extreme allegation that President Obama is guilty of treason and
that he worked in some sort of conspiracy with Hillary Clinton, etc.

(01:00:13):
In the assessment by the intelligence community at the time
that Russia interfered in the twenty sixteen election.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Okay, CNN was part of the conspiracy. Just to be clear,
CNN was a co conspirator in the Russia collusion fabrication.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Not only that, they gave them awards that they still
have all of them, got Pulitzers at the New York Times,
at the Washington Post. The media establishment not only got
took they actually went out there and said, you're the
sterling example of truth and speaking out to hold people accountable.

(01:00:56):
They still have the Politzers, they haven't returned them. They
got Pulitzers for one hundred percent fake news. They rewarded
and awarded everyone who was involved in peddling these lives
this big look. Whatever you think, and again I am
skeptical based on history as we set off the top
of the show, buck to that there will actually be

(01:01:17):
criminal charges brought here. I do think at a minimum,
this is rewriting in real time what many people believe
about the twenty sixteen election. And then again to me,
it connects to twenty twenty and whatever you think, how
amazing does Tulsie sound the clips that we played just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Right up there firing away sharing all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Of these details, and I think it's particularly a sign
of strength for Trump that this is not a longtime
right wing idiologue who was making this case. It's a
former Democrat, someone who ran for president again against Trump
in twenty twenty, someone that Joe Biden supposedly considered as

(01:02:07):
a vice presidential running mate as soon as he said that,
I'm only going to pick a woman, and I would
just say, whatever your politics. Can you imagine Kamala Harris
trying to lay this out in any kind of understandable,
coherent fashion. I can't just like Tulsi did. We'll talk
about this more. By the way, Epstein news, Obama appointed

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