July 28, 2025 • 58 mins
Trump was Right on Trade
President Donald Trump’s economic and trade victories, including a landmark UK-US trade agreement announced alongside UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, and a massive EU-US trade deal. The hosts emphasize how these deals validate Trump’s long-standing “America First” trade policy and his strategic use of economic leverage. They highlight the record-breaking performance of the S&P 500 and Dow Jones, attributing the market’s rebound to Trump’s leadership and urging listeners to stay invested for long-term gains.
The segment also critiques mainstream media and political opponents, asserting that Trump’s economic foresight—especially on China—has been vindicated. The hosts contrast Trump’s success with the Biden administration’s failures, particularly on inflation, wage growth, and border security. They argue that Trump has delivered on his promises more effectively than any recent president.
Black on White Crime
A viral video of a violent mob assault in Cincinnati, which Vice President JD Vance condemns as a brutal, racially charged attack. They criticize the mainstream media’s silence, suggesting a double standard in coverage based on the racial dynamics of the incident. The discussion calls for harsher penalties for mob violence, urging district attorneys to prioritize violent crime over nonviolent offenses.
Russia, Russia, Russia
The media’s handling of the Russia hoax and the Epstein case. Tulsi Gabbard, now Director of National Intelligence, is praised for exposing the depth of the intelligence community’s efforts to undermine Trump. The hosts criticize mainstream media for ignoring these revelations and accuse Democrats of weaponizing the Epstein case to politically damage Trump, rather than seeking justice for victims. Vice President JD Vance is spotlighted for his articulate defense of the administration against media attacks, particularly regarding the lack of transparency under previous administrations. The hosts argue that Democrats only began caring about Epstein when they saw an opportunity to divide Trump from his base.
Woke Left Calls Sydney Sweeny Ad “Nazi Propaganda”
Backlash against “woke” advertising. The hosts praise American Eagle’s decision to feature actress Sydney Sweeney in a new campaign, calling it a return to aspirational marketing and a rejection of body positivity campaigns that promote unhealthy lifestyles. They argue that brands are shifting away from politically correct messaging because it failed to resonate with consumers. This segment includes a critique of the media’s labeling of traditional beauty standards as “Nazi propaganda,” which Clay and Buck dismiss as absurd.
In a broader cultural context, the hosts discuss the growing emphasis on health and fitness among younger generations. They note a decline in smoking and binge drinking, while expressing concern over the increased use of high-potency marijuana. They argue that marijuana legalization has led to unintended consequences, including public health risks and a thriving black market. The conversation also touches on the importance of teaching young people to take risks, pursue physical fitness, and engage with the world beyond their screens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Play held down the Fort
no Keg parties. I'm told probably well behaved, everything very good.
While I was gone play thank you for doing that.
And I was in New York City my dad's seventy
eighth birthday. There might have even been Clay a singing
(00:24):
Trump card involved for his birthday, not actual Trump. But
it was pretty fun. Yes, like I've heard it's your birthday.
I've heard it's your birthday. Anyway, So we had a
good time up in New York City, and you know what,
I still love I love New York. I'm not gonna
wear one of the T shirts because I'm not a
tourist ever there, even though I don't live there anymore.
But I do love NYC and I think it's there.
(00:46):
They're gonna fight back on this mom Donnie madness, we'll
dive into all of that, but yeah, it was very
nice to spend some time with the family. Little baby Speed
got baptized, which is very important, very important. We were
the lovely Catholic church there with the family got baptized,
So I appreciated the ability to do that over the
weekend bring him into the church and Clay, we got
a lot of news. The big thing actually all morning
(01:09):
I was watching the real time press conference, the live
press conference going on with Kerr Starmer, the UK Prime
Minister and Donald Trump, where they were announcing a UK
US deal on trade, big trade deal, legitimately huge. And
(01:31):
then also the EU has announced a huge trade and
I remember the EU is actually the largest economy in
the world. Now it's not a country, so we are
still the number one country, but if you add all
the EU together, it's the largest economy in the world.
And so it's meaningful to say the least that these
deals went through in Clay before we get into the
(01:53):
we have to get into the Trump was right, and
we said, guys, give it time, give it time that
you go back. You listen. The great thing about this
radio show so as if you ever were curious, when
do the market tank, Clay, when we're.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Ap April, it was in the absolute tank. Everybody was saying, hey,
the economy's in trouble, recessions coming. Your four oh one
k's are worthless. Trump has no idea what he's doing.
And we said hold your stocks if you happen to
have additional money. Now is the time probably to put
(02:25):
more money in buy and hold long term. And as
we are speaking to all of you this Monday, another
all time high in the s and P five hundred
in the Dow. If you just never checked your four
to oh one k year starts and you're like, hey,
I'm only going to check it halfway through.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You're up big on the year.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
If you bought in April, you're up nearly thirty percent
from where those lows were when all the so called
experts were telling you that the world was falling apart.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So it is a huge victory laugh moment for Trump
because we said at the time, and this was a
moment where the so called consensus was very much going
against Trump, right the economists, the CNBC watchers, and the
CNBC hosts, that that whole crew was, well, we all
know the trade deal, that this is going to lead
(03:16):
to trade wars and higher prices, and the stock market's
going to tank and it can lead to a recession.
And to be fair, and this is why I said,
you can go back and listen, we said, we do
not know that actually that Donald Trump has earned the
right to have the trust of the American people on
the economy and on negotiating trade, I think more than
really anything else. Maybe immigration too, but on the economy
(03:38):
and trade, he knows more than the people criticizing him.
He truly does. He understands these dynamics better than the
people out there, you know, the peanut gallery, the cheap seats,
you know, saying oh, he's gonna ruin everything. We have
huge trade deals announced. Here's just a little overview of
some of this. Okay, this was you had Trump yesterday
(03:59):
and Scott and Turnberry apparently a lovely golf course. Here
was Trump in Scotland talking about how look at where
the American economy is. Look at all this enthusiasm and
play this is cut seven. Play it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Every leader. When I went to NATO the other day,
every leader said, you have the hottest country in the world.
We have the hottest country in the world, and we're
taking in hundreds of billions of dollars. We have the
highest stock market we've ever had, we have the best
numbers we've ever had. But we have hundreds of billions
of dollars pouring into our country. And I think it's
the hottest and.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
One year ago our country was dead. We had a
dead country because of an incompetent president and incompetent democrats.
All they know how to do is talk and think
about conspiracy theories and nonsense. If they'd waste their time
talking about America being great again, it would be so
much nicer, so much easier play.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
A big part of this, too is people looking at
these negotiations, these trade not now these deals right insha
ations have come to a conclusion it's a great deal
for America. They can't get around this that this has
improved the economic landscape for the American people. And this
is in so many ways the manifestation of an America
(05:15):
first trade policy, as in advantaging this country.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Finally, what Trump is a master of is leverage. It's
the number one thing that he recognizes. If he gets
an inch on you, he will turn it into a mile.
And his thought and this is one of the things
that you can go back and watch Trump talking about
this for generations if you so desire, even on Oprah.
(05:40):
What he understands is this market is the most valuable
market to have access to in the world. And his
perspective on that is there should be a cost that
we extract from other countries to be able to access
the richest market of consumers in the world. And everybody said,
(06:00):
this is unbelievable. There's no way this is going to work.
We had a balanced budget last month that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I understand that it can be somewhat of a calendar quirk,
and look, we've got to get better and better. But
there's almost zero doubt that we are going to have
hundreds of billions of dollars in terras. And what Trump
has said so far has been true. The American consumer
is not fronting those costs. It is being eaten largely
(06:29):
by manufacturers and other countries that have cut back prices
to try to remain competitive. Now we still have a
deal to do with China, but as we near August,
first Liberation Day was in early April. If I recall correctly,
and if you just didn't look at your stocks and
now you suddenly decide, hey, it's getting close to August.
(06:52):
Maybe I'll go look at my four to OHO one K,
Maybe I'll go look at the index funds that I hold.
You've got record money, and I think people are feeling
that you are not seeing skyrocketing inflation. Inflation remains low
and in general wage growth, which is really I would
argue the most important single stat is is wage growth
(07:16):
outgrowing cost of goods. If you had to synthesize what
makes you feel like you're doing better in general, it
is when your income as a worker is growing faster
than the cost of the goods that you purchase with
your income. And we have a situation where Trump has
reversed the downturn of Biden, and your incomes are growing
(07:38):
faster than the things that you have to buy now,
I think this is important. The prices are never going
to come back down, and this is the toxicity of inflation.
By and large, we never hit negative inflation. There are
all sorts of negative connotations economically that would occur. So
the pernicious, awful, dastardly part of inflation is is it
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does not ever go back. You're wanting to buy a
hamburger for three dollars instead of five, it's never going
to get returned to the three dollars. All you can
do is slow the rate of growth, which is why
I always compare it to putting on weight. If you're
continuing to put on weight, sooner or later. The fact
that you're putting on weight at a lower rate does
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not mean you're not going to be fat. And so
all of those are major issues that unfortunately are going
to stay with us from the Biden regime. But Trump, Look,
he ran on a economy, border crime, and six months
in buck I can't remember a president who has more
delivered on the things he said he would deliver on
(08:43):
than Trump in the first six months has everything that
he ran on. Economy, border crime is infinitely better than
it was under Biden.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And we're not even doing the comparison you could do,
which is imagine I Kamala Harris was president, right, Well, yeah,
none of this and you know that would be the
thing that most people would go to if Trump had
underperformed a little bit the first six months, ran into
some stumbles or whatever. You could always do the well,
at least it's not Kamala. And in this case, it's
(09:12):
like comparing the top student in the class to the
worst student in the class. Right, I mean, the difference
is night and day between the administration that you are
getting right now and what could have been and what
forty eight percent forty nine percent, No, it was more
than that forty nine percent of the American people voted
for in this last election, which is insane, which is
(09:33):
to have Kamala Harris in charge of this economy, none
of these trade deals would have gotten done Trump. This
is just one of these moments where remember we said
we learned a lesson from the first term, which was
everyone quote unquote everyone said Trump is wrong on China.
He's wrong to take the approach you to to China.
(09:54):
And not only was it correct in the implementation, it
was so correct that Biden didn't change it because they
knew that it would cause problems, it would be bad. Right,
So he was right on China when everyone said he
was going to be wrong. Play. I think what we're
seeing again is Trump will be right on trade negotiations
when quote unquote everyone said that he would be wrong.
(10:15):
Here he is on the trade deal with the EU.
We didn't even talk about this in specifics. Yet this
is cut eight play it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This started months ago, this negotiation, so we knew pretty
much what we were getting into, and we were able
to make a deal that's very satisfactory to both sides.
So it's tremendously it's a very powerful deal.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's a very big deal. It's the biggest of all
the deals. It will be the biggest of all the deals.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So we're very honored to have done so.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And it's a huge deal with the EU, as I said,
the largest actual economic zone on the planet because it's
all those countries put together. And now clay American producers
will be operating on a more level playing field with
trade partners like the EU. There's hundreds of billions of
dollars of investment that's agreed to from the EU. Here
(11:06):
there's a lot of US energy that's going to be bought.
Additional energy is going to be bought by the EU. Now,
I mean this is it's so good that they can't
even come up the Trump haters can't even come up
with a way to tell you it's bad. I think
that tells you everything.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, look, I think they're running scared. I mean I
talked about this a little bit over the weekend. I
think Trump has been proven right on the Epstein stuff,
which I know people are still somewhat fired up about.
But Democrats, and I think there's audio of Trump talking
about this, but Democrats had these Epstein files for four years.
They're losing on the economy, they're losing on border, they're
(11:43):
losing on crime. So now they're trying to say, oh,
Trump's to blame for Epstein, and my thing on that
would be, well, you had the files for four years
under Joe Biden, Why did you not release everything? Why
did you not bring all the charges. We'll see what's
gonna end up happening there. But I do think it's
worth you all thinking about this. They've pivoted from economy,
(12:04):
border crime attacks to hey, all we can really hit
Trump on is Epstein, And that is I think a sign,
honestly of how well he's doing on all the major
big issues the EBC, economy, border crime that he ran
on in the first six months, that they're not even
really coming after him. I think they've recognized buck that
(12:25):
going after Trump on hey, he's deporting too many people
is actually harming them. You know, The Wall Street Journal
had an incredible that graphic over the weekend. Maybe we
can talk about this a little bit. Democrats have hit
a thirty five year low in popularity. That's pretty extraordinary
and the lowest level of popularity that has ever existed.
(12:48):
Because they are picking a lot of things to attack
Trump on that the vast majority of the American public
agrees with.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Him on it is a good day everybody. Trump is
taking a much deserved victory lap, and just look at
what's going on with the economy all around you. I
know that sometimes good is less interesting or grabs the
attention less than catastrophe, especially in the news business. But
(13:14):
there will be challenges ahead, trust me. Take take it
in that things are going well right now. One of
the challenges Trump talked about was really no progress with
Russia at all, So we can talk more about that.
Trump is ticked off at Putin. I could tell you
from watching that interview this morning and previous statements he's made,
So that's something that's going to get more attention now.
And I think Trump has the wind at his back.
(13:37):
I think Putin is underestimating the kind of pain that
Trump is willing to inflict economically on Russia to bring
this thing to a conclusion. So we can talk about
that as well. But on trade, Trump is not tired
of winning. President Trump is right on the money, that's
for sure, and it's just evidence of how hard he's
working to make the economy roar. Now that's fantastic, but
(13:59):
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we had Trump
eat talking about the big prey deals, truly momentous. And
we've also got JD. Vance who was in Ohio and
he's speaking there. JD covering a whole range of topics.
But one thing that I think might have stuck out
(16:05):
to people a bit is in the course of talking
about the usual things that the vice president would speak about.
I remember Jade Vance, a guy who grew up in
the heartland under rough circumstances, and if you've read Hillbilly
lg his best selling memoir, you certainly know the challenges
that he faced. But as he was in Ohio, he
(16:29):
addressed something that you may have seen some viral video
of over the weekend, and assault a gang assault really,
or an assault by a gang of people, I should say,
a whole group of people in at a jazz festival.
And here is how it went. Here's jd Vance talking
about a play.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Well I saw as a mob of lawless thugs beating
up on an innocent person, and it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
How to help every single one of those people who
engage in violence as prosecuted to the full cited law,
and they will be.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
They will be so long as law enforcement in the
state of Ohio takes their job seriously. I know Dave
Yos cares a lot about these things, but but yeah,
I actually.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know, you're right.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Bertie did send me a clip of this and we
talked a little bit about it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know the full context.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I don't know how the fight started, but the one
part that I saw that was really gruesome is you
had a grown man who sucker punched a middle aged woman.
And where I come from, at least when you have
a grown man whose sucker punch is a middle aged woman,
that person ought to go to jail for a very
long time. And frankly, he's lucky there weren't some better
people around because they would have handled it themselves. But
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if they're gonna not gonna handle it, the cops in Cincinnati,
the law enforcement, you've got.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
To prosecute people. Clay, I totally agree with JD. Sentmen here.
Just a couple of quick thoughts on this first off,
as we were about to pull this up, I just
wanted the latest details. I think I couldn't go to
the New York Times for it. Yeah, I couldn't go
to the Washington Post for what is a viral video
millions and millions of views over the weekend. And in
the video you see to a white man and a
(18:02):
white woman surrounded by people who are black, attack them,
are kicking them on the ground, kicking the guy on
the ground, and then a woman comes over it toward
the end. I believe it's is his wife or his girlfriend.
That's the part I was trying to get the details
on and some other. A guy again, a black male,
(18:22):
punches this woman in the face out of nowhere, knocks
her out cold. I mean looks like she could have
had You know, you can fall down from a punch
in the face like that. This has happened. This isn't
just theoretical and slip into a coma and die from
hitting your head on the concrete. You know, this is
these kinds of violent assaults. Our society has to be
a little more clear about a few things, Clay when
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it comes to the criminal justice. I know that people
want to treat like Wall Street insider trading like you know,
you should go to prison for the rest of your life,
you know, because that. But actually violence should be the
thing that is violence, sexual violence, these are the things
that should be the most severely punished by law, and
I think that the law should be changed. I don't
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know what they are in individual states necessarily, I don't
know what it is in Ohio. But if you are
stomping somebody who is defenseless on the ground as part
of a gang, there should be serious enhancements that send
you to prison for a long time for that, because
there's no excuse and no rationale for that that that
could be accepted. And then the guy who punched the
woman in the face. I mean, it was gruesome. And
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the media is completely disinterested in this or uninterested in
this story.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, Elon Musk yesterday, so I haven't checked today, but
you just did a Google search to try to read
more about this, and this is what you just heard
jd Vance talk about because he's from Cincinnati and this
is from his hometown. And Bernie Marino, newly elected senator
from Ohio, shared this video over the weekend. Elon Musk
asked this question why zero stories end wokeness on Twitter?
(19:55):
Posted zero AP news stories about the attack, zero ze
Fox news stories about the attack. I have seen one
Fox News story this morning, so that has changed at
least zero PBS news stories about the attack. Zero New
York Time news stories about the attack. Zero NPR news
stories about the attack, zero ABC, zero NBC, zero CNN. Basically,
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it's as if it hasn't happened. And what Jade Vance
particularly reference there is what you referenced as well, this
woman just getting laid out. And I would point out
that this is all on video, so there is a
certain but there's a certain cultural decision that's being made
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when you see someone who is innocent getting beaten up
and your first thought is, hey, I'm going to get
my phone out and record it. I don't know how
many of these people recording are men, but if you're
a man and you see a woman get punched, your
thoughts should not be, oh, I want to make sure
or I get this on video. Well that that happened
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at the end, right now, that happened at the end.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I just want to point out that there's a guy
who's on the ground, who's on the concrete, who's being
stomped by while people are videoing it, while people are
video Yeah, but by four or five different people running
up stomping him as he's defenseless on the ground, you
can kill somebody doing that. And then anybody who says
only though you can't doesn't know what the hell they're
talking about. You can actually kill somebody by stomping them
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when they're on the ground on concrete. It is not
that hard for them to get a brain hemorrhage and
to die, right. It's just a horrific thing to do.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Here on how common this has become for and look,
I understand if it's like a twelve or thirteen year
old somewhat, but for society, for people just to stand
around while someone is potentially getting murdered in front of you,
and your first thought is, oh, I'm gonna make sure
I get this for the gram, like I'm gonna make
sure I get this for TikTok. What is the culture
(21:59):
that we have created where somebody's on the ground getting
stomped on and a huge percentage of the American public's
first thought is, oh, let me make sure I get
a good video of this, not let me stop the
fight from happening. Not let me stop the person on
the ground from potentially being murdered in cold blood right
in front of you. But hey, I want to take
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this video so I can make sure that it goes viral.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And particularly if you're a man and your first thought
as you see a woman getting beaten up by a
man is let me make sure that I get this
on video. I look, sometimes maybe people are thinking, hey,
this is a crime, let me make sure that I'm
getting some video of that crime occurring, and being very
lenient maybe sometimes, but it doesn't based on the sound
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and the the laughter and everything else. It doesn't seem
like people are thinking, hey, I want to make sure
I preserve some form of evidence of this violent act.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
The media is, broadly speaking completely Like I said, I'm
interested in the story. The first I did a Google search,
just a straight up Google search on this, and the
first news coverage that came up is the Hindu stand Times. Okay,
that's weird they covered this story. Yeah. I don't know
what kind of reportage the Hindu stan Times is generally
(23:18):
known for, but I wouldn't think it will be the
top of my Google search results, but it was. There's
some local coverage of this, like local TV news, but
you know, if it bleeds, it leads local news, they
still generally adhere to that maxim And and then there's
the other part of this play, which is anybody and
I'm sure we could have some some district attorneys or
(23:39):
former former Eightya's call in and tell us the same thing.
Nobody involved in this is going to get any really
serious punishment. I appreciate that. Jade Vance, the vice president,
says that he hopes that they punished the fullest extent
of the law. I can tell you they won't be
I can tell you that from friends of mine who
have worked for the New York District Attorney's office. There
is a sense that, you know, violence unless somebody is
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killed or paralyzed, or there's something really horrific that is
the outcome of it. Like that, there's a hesitancy to
punish violent acts as severely as they can be punished
because there's a disproportionate amount of violence from some communities
and they don't want to run. They don't want to
deal with those statistics. They don't want to say, well,
(24:22):
we already have a quote unquote mass incarceration problem in
certain low income communities. We don't want to make that
situation even worse by punishing violence more severely. They should
punish violence more severely, though, this should be the top
of the list of what district attorneys go after and
say you can't do this.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The mayor of Cincinnati has finally issued a statement. Eleven
minutes ago this came down. He had prior to now
not said anything, so I suspect that JD. Van's addressing
this viral video likely motivated the mayor to put out
a statement again. This came from his Twitter account just
eleven minutes ago. I'm outraged by the vicious fight that
(25:02):
occurred downtown. Let me start with this calling that a
fight is not what I saw right. That was a
melee of.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
A It was a mom assault. It was a ten
on one beat down of somebody who was very clearly
defenseless after the first shoved to the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
A fight is like one guy and another guy throwing
punches at each other. We all know what fights were
if you watch this video. This was not a fight.
It was a mob beating the crap out of one person.
It's horrifying to watch the mayor continues of Cincinnati. Unacceptable
and disgusting behavior, intolerable in any part of our community.
That's not who we are as the city. Since the
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fight occurred, I've been in consistent communication with the chief.
Our police have been working around the clock to investigate
and bring perpetrators of violence to justice. Based on the
investigation and the urgent work of our police, I'm confident
arrests are forthcoming. For that reason, we're making every effort
to allow our off officers to do their jobs and
(26:02):
present formal results to the public rather than engaging with
early speculation and then that is the statement. So this
statement has just been put out in the last eleven minutes,
but this has gone megaviral.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
It will be we all know. Look, here's the reality.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
If if this had been a black couple that was
beaten by a white mob, it would be the number
one story in America. It would be everyone saying, oh
my goodness, every it would be leading every newscast. It
would be a sign of white supremacy sweeping through our nation.
But white couple gets the crap eating out of them
(26:40):
by a black mob.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
By the numbers, by the way, agenda, that scenario you described,
by the numbers would be incredibly rare, but the media
happens would would not treat it as incredibly rare. They
would go the opposite direction and act like, this is
the same thing with police violence. You know, if it's
against a if it's against the black guy, we're told
this happens all the time. It's actually incredibly you know,
(27:01):
excessive police violence. The same thing would be here if
you had a white mob beating up a black guy,
we would be told this is the this is the
like the new face of America, this is what's happening
all the time. They would exaggerate it in the in
the direction of lies one hundred percent. Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And so we will see what more comes out of that.
Maybe some of you in Cincinnati. We have at times
the number one radio show in Cincinnati, in Columbus and
in Cleveland. We appreciate all of you all over Ohio listening,
but some of you may know more about this or
the investigation in the Cincinnati area. You're welcome to call in.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And I also just think that there should be I
don't know if there are, Clay, I think that there
should be laws that specifically target or specifically punish if
you are if you are part of a group that
is kicking somebody who is on the ground. You know,
if you punch somebody in the face, that's one thing.
If you break a beer bottle on a table and
stab somebody in the neck, it's another. Like we do
(27:58):
this with violence. If you are stomping somebody who is
on the ground, you should get serious prison time, not
I plead down to some misdemeanor. And you know I
will how many of these individuals you think are stomping
this guy on the ground will be their first brush
with the law. By the way, take a guess right.
I mean, we'll see, but it should be a very
clear thing. A society with honor would punish people for
(28:21):
doing this, whatever their skin color, whatever their background, all
punished severely.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, mob violence, I think again, there is no self
defense for mob violence, right. I think a lot of
people out there have seen two guys get in a fight.
Not ideal, obviously, we want less violence in the country,
but you can understand a face to face fight, most
people can in a lot of different context, much more
(28:48):
so than to your point, guys rolling around on the
ground already knocked down by the mob, and then you
just have a bunch of dudes running up and stomping
on him. I agree with you. I think the prosecution
and should be intense significant and to your point earlier,
we got to spend way more time still focusing on
violent crime, driving it down, putting those people behind bars,
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Speaker 1 (30:42):
Russia, Russia, Russia. You guys all remember that, right, big hoax.
Very frustrating for Trump Thattha deals it the first term,
but it is something that we have new and important
information about courtesy of our friend Taulcy Gabbert, the Director
of National Intelligence, and over the weekend she was speaking
about some of what she has found now that she
(31:04):
is the DNI who sits atop the entire intelligence community,
including the Director of Central Intelligence, which is currently Dcia Ratcliffe.
But Tulci Gabbard was talking about what she is, what
she is seeing, and how there's just no interest from
the media that was trying to use the Russia hoax
(31:27):
to destroy Trump in the first term, to tell the truth. Now,
I don't think that's surprising anybody, but we will continue
to follow this and to talk to you about it.
Here she is the DNI on Saturday on Fox News,
Fox and Friends talking about what she's found. Play nine.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
It's been interesting to see how the mainstream media has
either refused to cover this story at all. The headlines
or the lack thereof of newspapers Washington Post, New York
Times and others. In the days following this REALMSA have
actually been quite deafening in their lack of coverage, and
it's interesting to see how when they do cover this,
(32:08):
they don't actually cover the revelations that these intelligence reports
and the evidence that we release actually conveys to the
American people. They simply talk about their criticisms of it,
or convey Democrat politicians criticisms of it, but none of
them actually dealing with the truth that has been revealed.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
They don't discuss play anything in the specifics. Because we
now have more information than ever before about just how
manufactured this entire takedown effort really the soft coup against
Trump was. This was Now it's tough because for people
like you and me, we've been followings very closely, so
(32:54):
we already knew it was a soft coup. That hasn't changed,
that's only being bolstered. I don't think it's the concl
illusions are different, but the strength of the details and
the scope of the conspiracy is even worse than anybody
on our side of this could have known beforehand. Now
you see this new information they really were just cooking
(33:16):
up get rid of Trump campaign in the IC and
the intelligence community. Yeah, and I think it's just a again.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Right now, and we talked about this, and I give
I gave Trump credit. I don't know if you saw
it when Trump came out and said, hey, Obama is
going to be protected by the Supreme Court ruling on
presidential power, which we talked about.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
A lot last week.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think this is primarily a function of getting the
historical record in order and also.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Pointing out how much of a lie this all is.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And sadly, everybody listening to us right now, as you
just laid out, knew this already. There are still huge
portions of the Democrat base that believe Russia rigged the
twenty sixteen election for Trump. That's what they believe. And
so the fact that this was in any way allowed
(34:14):
to happen as in some form or fashion without any
sort of significant consequences is I think, just incredibly unfortunate.
And by the way, this is I think also important.
I want to play this because I think Jade Vance
did an incredible job answering questions from reporters. I don't
(34:35):
know how many of you have seen this, but cut
thirty one, an AP reporter asked him, if report this
is where we are right, A lot of media are
not going to cover the revelations of Tulsa Gabbard. They're
not going to cover the success of the economy, the
success of the border. I give credit to the New
(34:58):
York Times for the actually cover over the weekend the
fact that violent crime is in many ways collapsing. I
don't think that's coincidental that cops are able to do
their jobs and suddenly violence crime, violent crime starts to collapse.
But notice what the attacks have become. They're actually now
attacking Trump for not doing in six months something that
(35:20):
Democrats didn't do in four years. And this is the
AP trying to attack jd Vance and President Trump over Epstein.
Listen to cut thirty one. Understand what's going on now.
The media and the Democrats don't want any consequences for Epstein.
They didn't even ask about this for four years. Now
(35:42):
they're trying to tie it because they don't have any
other criticisms to jd Vance and Trump. I just want
you to listen to jd Vance. This is cut thirty one.
How well he handles this question and think about his
answer Cut thirty one.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I got to make an observation that there's an interesting
thing about this case that the American.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
The scenes to totally ignore.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
For four years under Joe Biden's Department of Justice, the
media didn't give a damn about the Epstein files or
about the Epstein case.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
For literally twenty years, the story about.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
This scumbag, and he is a scumbag pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein.
He's dead now, But for twenty years you had Obama
and George W. Bush's Department of Justice go easy on
this guy.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
They didn't fully investigate the case, they didn't show any
curiosity about the case. And now Donald J. Trump is asking.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
His Department of Justice to show full transparency, and somehow
that's a criticism of Donald J. Trump and not Barack
Obama and George W.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Bush.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
If you want to criticize the people who aren't showing
full transparency, you ought.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
To go after the administrations that went easy.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
On Jeffrey Epstein, the administrations that concealed this case for
twenty years, and the administrations that failed to show full transparency.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I think it's well said again, as much as they
can possibly release out about the Epstein case, but the
idea that Democrats in some way have clean hands, or
the media that's suddenly pretending that this is a big
deal despite not covering it by and large during the.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Entire Biden regime.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
If you are a Democrat like Hakeem Jefferies or someone
of that ilk Chuck Schumer, now that is trying to
make the Epstein case a really big story. I actually
give credit because Joe Scarborough, I believe it was Congressman
Raskin from Maryland. He had on and we played that
audio for you and he said, hey, if this is
such a big deal to you, how come you didn't
mention it for four years when Joe Biden was in
(37:39):
office and he couldn't even answer it. I mean, that's
on Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough recognizing what's going on here.
They are trying to find They are desperate to find
something to attack Trump on. Now for the audience, say
something on the on the whole ebsence, And I really
mean this. This is going to sound this going to
(38:00):
sound like I'm being supercilious.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
It's another good word, you know, it's not not quite tertiary,
but it's not a bad word. It's gonna sound like
I'm being a little salty. But I really think the
Democrats once Biden took office, you know, the auto Pen
administration was so hell bent on Jan six prosecutions and
then prosecutions of Donald Trump. Right, so the criminal case
(38:25):
against Trump, the Jan six defensive democracy thing that I
don't know how much bandwidth they really had to focus
on anything else. Well, I mean the thing the most.
I really mean this. I think the single most important
focus of Biden's administration was prosecuting J six people, destroying
their lives and destroying Donald Trump using the legal system.
(38:47):
And that was I think that was tier one. I
don't think there was anything that was above that. So
I'm not saying this erase is the point about why
didn't they do anything with the Epstein files. But they
really were monomaniacal in their focus on J six Trump,
Destroy Trump, prosecute him, throw him in prison. And as
you said, Biden was even making snarky remarks about how
(39:09):
Trump was gonna go to He was gonna let Trump
go to prison, everybody meaning he of course colluded in
the whole process, but he wasn't gonna pardon him. He
was gonna let Trump go to prison. That was the plan.
So it's worth remembering that.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
So I think again there's a legal doctrine, clean hands
doctrine where you can't come in and claim suddenly you
care when you're being engaged in dirty behavior yourself. Now,
if trumps supporters, I think this is very fair, want
to argue, hey, what is the next what do we
think is the next important thing?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
And the reality is there are twenty different things that
are being worked on at any given moment, forty different things,
fifty different things inside of the White House that a
lot of people are not paying attention to, and it
doesn't get a lot of attention, but it's actually making
the country better in my opinion. But if Trump supporters
want to argue, okay, economy, border crime, also men and
(40:06):
women's sports, and we need to figure out what's going
on with Epstein all those things, I think that's very valid.
But be careful, be careful that you aren't providing the
slings and arrows that Democrats are using to try to
attack Trump and keep him from doing all of the
things that you want him to be doing. Does that
make sense? I think sometimes you have to be careful.
(40:29):
In attacking somebody or disagreeing with somebody publicly, you are
creating the arsenal with which the opposition then attacks because
the Democrat they're dishonest. The media is dishonest. They didn't
care at all about this. They're using Epstein not to
try to get justice, They're using Epstein to attack Trump.
(40:51):
There is a very big difference between those two things.
Democrats don't care about what happened to Epstein. They don't
care about his victims. If they did, they would have
focused on it the next four years. They just want
to get Trump. And this is where I think Trump's
frustration comes through. To the extent I'm channeling Trump, he
sees that I'm trying to do. This is Trump's perspective.
Everything we can to get as much information out publicly
(41:14):
about the Epstein files as we can. Democrats don't want that.
The media doesn't want that. They just want to attack
Trump and try to connect him to Epstein. Trump sees that,
and I think that's when he's answering and giving the
answers that sometimes are frustrating. It's because he's seeing the
next level and analyzing the motivations here as opposed to
(41:35):
the actual story. If that makes sense. Because I think
everybody's generally in agreement that people who engage in violent
acts and people who engage in criminal sex acts should
be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I
think that's something that the vast majority of Americans all
agree on, and certain the vast majority of Trump supporters do.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
There's also just a very simple and straightforward observation that
we can all share here, which is Democrats only started
caring about the Epstein situation when they realized that there
was a way to agitate Trump and try to separate
Trump from his supporters on this. That's it. Yes, that's it.
They say, yeah, this whole, this whole thing, this all Epstein,
and that we got to look into the Apstein. They know,
(42:16):
they didn't care about this at all, but they see,
you know, they see a way to try to throw
a little gasoline on the fire of a little a
little bit of an issue with Trump and some of
the Maga bass and they're just trying to go after
that politically. So now I'm not surprised that they're doing that.
Of course they're going to do that. I knew they
would as soon as there was this, uh, this static
(42:36):
that came up on this issue. And I think it's
one of the reasons Trump also gets so frustrated now
with the questions about it. He goes the Democrats and
the media that are asking about this. It's they're just
trying to create that They don't actually care what the
files could all be blank pages. They don't care. They
just know that anything they can do to try to
get Trump in his base to be at odds on
(42:56):
something they love, and that's all that. That's all that
they see this as. They don't see this as you know,
finding out, you know, what the elites really are doing.
They don't care about any of that stuff because a
lot of the people that are a lot of the
names that come up very clearly Democrat names that come
up in the world of Epstein stuff, so anyway, or
people that make big donations to Democrats. All right, let's
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Friday, I think we talked about this major cultural shift
that has occurred where the idea that hey, I'm gonna
put I know, we talked about this someone it was
happening because it was so crazy. But the the idea that,
for instance, Nike was going to put a man who's
(45:05):
pretending to be a woman in a sports bra and
be like, you should go buy Nikes, and all of
us kind of looked around, like this is crazy. And
then the thing that really got popular was hey, really
obese people in spandex, like, hey, you should wear spandex
and be really happy with your body even if you
(45:26):
were three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
It was like, well, I don't know how I feel
about all this.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
There's really a revolution, I would say against those ads
because buying Mars they didn't work. And I talked about
this on Friday Buck. One of the best jobs I
ever had, maybe the most fun job I ever had,
was making four dollars and fifty cents an hour working
at the American Eagle Rivergate Mall Goodlettsville, Tennessee, when I
(45:53):
was in high school. And American Eagle stock has been
not good for much of the last five years, and.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I went back and looked at it.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's a very popular retail chain, and they decided, hey,
we've got to change our overall mojo and they said,
we're going to hire Sidney Sweeney. And Sidney Sweeney is
now doing ads for American Eagle that I think it's
fair to say are sexy in nature and in general
it's going to shock some of you.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I think, how do you say it? It is a
fair to say it is a little.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Sexy for Sidney Sweeney. Yes, yes, well, some people don't
know who Sidney Sweeney is. But and I understand that
in the audience. But the idea being that in general
she's Buxom Buxom would be Buxom Last, Buxom last for sure.
That in general, one way that products sell themselves is
(46:47):
by putting pretty girls in the product and deciding that
people will want to buy products that pretty girls are
trying to sell.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
And this has been a trend for a very very
long time.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And so this ad is up and the what I
would call is the sort of fat, noseringed, pink haired
contingent of the world out there is angry that brands
are going back to good looking girls, and this has
(47:20):
gone viral. One of these left wingers, I want to
play this for you, Buck says that the American Eagle
ad of Sydney Sweeney is Nazi propaganda.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
Listen, should we be surprised that a company whose name
is literally American Eagle is making fascist propaganda like this?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Probably not, but it's still really shocking.
Speaker 7 (47:42):
Like a blonde haired, blue eyed white woman is talking
about her good gens like that is Nazi propaganda.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Nazi propaganda. Not a cute girl in jeans talking about
her good jeens is Nazi propaganda, according to the left.
Now I mentioned this, I think on Friday. Buck, I
don't know how you've ever been influenced by advertising involving
attractive women. I think the most direct result ever. And
(48:18):
my wife still makes fun of me about this. I
watched the victorious Secret Fashion Calendar Show or whatever that
thing's called. They do like a Christmas spectacus, I've heard
they do like a Christmas spectacular, a bunch of girls
in lingerie. I watched it, went out, bought like two
hundred dollars in lingerie for my wife maybe the next day.
I mean, I just went and bought everything, and I
(48:39):
was like, I'm a stooge, but this worked on me.
I'm gonna go get everything boom, bring it back all right.
So I can't speak for all men, but in general,
I would say that men are influenced by attractive women
trying to get them to buy things. But Nazi propaganda
and the question I asked, I would love to know
(49:01):
a lot of this are the same people who were
putting fat women into spandex and saying like, you're healthy,
even though obviously if you're super obese you're not.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Healthy, like you should lose weight.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Are those the same people do you think making the
ads now and they just recognize that the cultural wins
have shifted, or do you think these companies fired the
people who did such an awful job doing I mean,
Victoria's Secret's a perfect example of this. They were like,
we're gonna do away with supermodels and just put our
product on regular people. And people are like, this is
(49:39):
not you know, like I don't want to know what
I'm going to look like. I want to I want
to pretend that I'm going to look way better, Like
I don't buy I don't buy a bathing suit and think, oh,
I'm going to look as good as the guy who's
in the bathing suit ad. But I definitely don't want
to look like nobody's going to buy an ad if
I'm in the bathings, I'm in the bathing suit ad. Like,
this is not a way to sell products.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I think. I think that the people who were doing
the ads before in many cases are the ones who
now have shifted with the wind. That would be my
just same people.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
They just completely they've made principles like the Yeah, I
mean you see this with a lot of people in
the in the corporate on the corporate side of things,
they just whichever way the wind is blowing is how
they're gonna as how they're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
And and I think that this was pretty inevitable. There
is a part of this as well that maybe doesn't
get as much attention or focus, but the whole body
positivity thing. Yeah, as people become more and more health focused,
and I really mean that in the broadest term health focused,
but learn more about this stuff, and also as the
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Now peptides a branch chan amino acid. That's a whole
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(51:26):
is the idea that you could be morbidly obese and
should be proud of That is very similar to the
idea that you could be so inerrexic that your you know,
your central nervous system could shut down and people would
be like, oh, yeah, look at how skinny you are. Right,
I mean this, it's deeply unhealthy, and more and more
(51:50):
people I think, have realized this. I don't mean it's
unhealthy like you don't look sexy in a bikini. That's
a whole other universe of thinking, or whole other perspective
on it. It is you are heading toward a shortened lifespan,
less mobility, less energy, poor sleep, type two diabetes, heart
all this stuff. So I think body positivity more has
(52:12):
also played run into not just a cultural pushback on
this madness, but also science. Yeah, the science, you could say,
I think people are seeing this more and more. It's
also why I would note, and this is a really
positive thing. Binge drinking in the culture has really gone
down substantially. There's a lot of data to support this.
(52:33):
Drinking in general is on a decline. You know, excessive drinking.
I le'll talk about having a glass of wine or
two with dinner, but drinking as a form of almost
sport to excess because it is horrible for you. And
if you want to be healthy and you want to
feel good, drinking so much that you wake up the
next day with a hangover on a regular basis is
(52:54):
essentially throwing a hole, is throwing a wrench into all
of your plans. So I think that this is a
a pretty seismic shift. And yes, hot chicks are a
part of it. That is also true. There's going to
be more of a focus on the aspirational side of beauty,
and because if everybody is physically beautiful, then like nobody's
physically beautiful, right, I mean, well, we're all doing the
(53:16):
best of what we got. Very few of us win
the genetics lottery the way that the Victoria's Secret Models do.
But that doesn't mean that we all just give up
and you know the side that we're going to go
the Rosie o'donald route. You know, it can be a
little more. You can put a little more thought into
your health, into your appearance, into all of those things.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Aspiring to be healthier and stronger and all of those things,
I would argue is one of the most important things
that young men and young women can be taught. And
it doesn't mean that you're gonna, to Buck's point, look
like a Victoria's Secret Supermodel if you're a woman, or
you're gonna look like Superman if you're a guy. But
getting in the gym and trying to get stronger is
(53:56):
a really good thing. And I do think that younger
people are cognizant of this, and there are some negatives.
Because I'm raising three young boys, there are some negatives.
I think that their society is embracing that are different
than prior generations. You know, there is a benefit to
(54:16):
taking risk. A lot of kids today, for instance, don't
want to get driver's license. They're happy to just stay
on their phones as opposed to going out on dates
or going out.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I think that's having an impact across the board. But
it is true, like my kids, when they see someone
smoking a cigarette, they react like someone is shooting As
young kids, they would react like someone was shooting up Heroin.
I grew up in an era when somebody's mom always
was smoking cigarettes in the car with the windows all
(54:48):
rolled up and h and you know, you were always
like trying to just get a breath and it's cold outside,
and you know, the whole car is just filled with smoke. Heck,
I remember you know this certainly. Remember when every bar
you went to there was just a cloud of smoke everywhere.
Remember when they had smoking sections and restaurants and that
(55:10):
was a laugh because the smoke just went everywhere. You
go into a bar now and there's nobody smoking. I mean,
there are a lot of decisions that have been made
that I think are beneficial, and I think to your point,
young kids are not using drugs now. One downside is
they're actually using marijuana, which is much stronger at levels
(55:32):
that are somewhat high, and that is maybe more destructive
than using alcohol would be on some levels, because the
marijuana kids are using today is much stronger than the
marijuana that would have existed twenty five or thirty years ago.
And our friend Alex Berenson has wrote a whole piece
about how destructive that can be. I think we kind
of sold the idea that pod is not dangerous, and
(55:53):
the frequent use of pot is actually incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
So there's all the air of public policy where I
will admit I was. I was. I think it's very
rare for me to be bamboozled. But on the it's
no big deal weed, legalize it, no big problem I have.
I am very much in the other direction.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I don't think people should obviously get locked up or
something for smoking weed, But this notion that we should
just allow it, it's everywhere. It's a it's a total
mess in New York City. Now, you walk down the
street and I walk down the street with my baby
and people are blowing marijuana smoke in our faces all that.
It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
It feels to me almost like marijuana smoking is more
common than cigarette smoking. Now, yeah, we just certainly I
smell marijuana in New York City. I was just there
more frequently than I smell cigarette smoke. That is a
true statement walking around Midtown Manhattan. And and it is
not harmless. It is very bad for your mental health.
There's a lot of stuff. But we were all we
were lied.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
We were told it was all about getting people, you know,
treatment for their glaucoma, to help with their pain. It
was all gonna be. It was gonna pay for all
the schools. Right. No, because when you tax a lot
of weed is so easy to make or so he's
to grow, rather that when you tax it heavily, you
just the black market just grows even more because people
want to just get it. They don't want to pay
these higher prices.
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Do guys walk up to a mic he anything goes
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free
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Welcome in everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Play held down the Fort
no Keg parties. I'm told probably well behaved, everything very good.
While I was gone play thank you for doing that.
And I was in New York City my dad's seventy
eighth birthday. There might have even been Clay a singing
(00:24):
Trump card involved for his birthday, not actual Trump. But
it was pretty fun. Yes, like I've heard it's your birthday.
I've heard it's your birthday. Anyway, So we had a
good time up in New York City, and you know what,
I still love I love New York. I'm not gonna
wear one of the T shirts because I'm not a
tourist ever there, even though I don't live there anymore.
But I do love NYC and I think it's there.
(00:46):
They're gonna fight back on this mom Donnie madness, we'll
dive into all of that, but yeah, it was very
nice to spend some time with the family. Little baby Speed
got baptized, which is very important, very important. We were
the lovely Catholic church there with the family got baptized,
So I appreciated the ability to do that over the
weekend bring him into the church and Clay, we got
a lot of news. The big thing actually all morning
(01:09):
I was watching the real time press conference, the live
press conference going on with Kerr Starmer, the UK Prime
Minister and Donald Trump, where they were announcing a UK
US deal on trade, big trade deal, legitimately huge. And
(01:31):
then also the EU has announced a huge trade and
I remember the EU is actually the largest economy in
the world. Now it's not a country, so we are
still the number one country, but if you add all
the EU together, it's the largest economy in the world.
And so it's meaningful to say the least that these
deals went through in Clay before we get into the
(01:53):
we have to get into the Trump was right, and
we said, guys, give it time, give it time that
you go back. You listen. The great thing about this
radio show so as if you ever were curious, when
do the market tank, Clay, when we're.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Ap April, it was in the absolute tank. Everybody was saying, hey,
the economy's in trouble, recessions coming. Your four oh one
k's are worthless. Trump has no idea what he's doing.
And we said hold your stocks if you happen to
have additional money. Now is the time probably to put
(02:25):
more money in buy and hold long term. And as
we are speaking to all of you this Monday, another
all time high in the s and P five hundred
in the Dow. If you just never checked your four
to oh one k year starts and you're like, hey,
I'm only going to check it halfway through.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You're up big on the year.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
If you bought in April, you're up nearly thirty percent
from where those lows were when all the so called
experts were telling you that the world was falling apart.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So it is a huge victory laugh moment for Trump
because we said at the time, and this was a
moment where the so called consensus was very much going
against Trump, right the economists, the CNBC watchers, and the
CNBC hosts, that that whole crew was, well, we all
know the trade deal, that this is going to lead
(03:16):
to trade wars and higher prices, and the stock market's
going to tank and it can lead to a recession.
And to be fair, and this is why I said,
you can go back and listen, we said, we do
not know that actually that Donald Trump has earned the
right to have the trust of the American people on
the economy and on negotiating trade, I think more than
really anything else. Maybe immigration too, but on the economy
(03:38):
and trade, he knows more than the people criticizing him.
He truly does. He understands these dynamics better than the
people out there, you know, the peanut gallery, the cheap seats,
you know, saying oh, he's gonna ruin everything. We have
huge trade deals announced. Here's just a little overview of
some of this. Okay, this was you had Trump yesterday
(03:59):
and Scott and Turnberry apparently a lovely golf course. Here
was Trump in Scotland talking about how look at where
the American economy is. Look at all this enthusiasm and
play this is cut seven. Play it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Every leader. When I went to NATO the other day,
every leader said, you have the hottest country in the world.
We have the hottest country in the world, and we're
taking in hundreds of billions of dollars. We have the
highest stock market we've ever had, we have the best
numbers we've ever had. But we have hundreds of billions
of dollars pouring into our country. And I think it's
the hottest and.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
One year ago our country was dead. We had a
dead country because of an incompetent president and incompetent democrats.
All they know how to do is talk and think
about conspiracy theories and nonsense. If they'd waste their time
talking about America being great again, it would be so
much nicer, so much easier play.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
A big part of this, too is people looking at
these negotiations, these trade not now these deals right insha
ations have come to a conclusion it's a great deal
for America. They can't get around this that this has
improved the economic landscape for the American people. And this
is in so many ways the manifestation of an America
(05:15):
first trade policy, as in advantaging this country.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Finally, what Trump is a master of is leverage. It's
the number one thing that he recognizes. If he gets
an inch on you, he will turn it into a mile.
And his thought and this is one of the things
that you can go back and watch Trump talking about
this for generations if you so desire, even on Oprah.
(05:40):
What he understands is this market is the most valuable
market to have access to in the world. And his
perspective on that is there should be a cost that
we extract from other countries to be able to access
the richest market of consumers in the world. And everybody said,
(06:00):
this is unbelievable. There's no way this is going to work.
We had a balanced budget last month that nobody's talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I understand that it can be somewhat of a calendar quirk,
and look, we've got to get better and better. But
there's almost zero doubt that we are going to have
hundreds of billions of dollars in terras. And what Trump
has said so far has been true. The American consumer
is not fronting those costs. It is being eaten largely
(06:29):
by manufacturers and other countries that have cut back prices
to try to remain competitive. Now we still have a
deal to do with China, but as we near August,
first Liberation Day was in early April. If I recall correctly,
and if you just didn't look at your stocks and
now you suddenly decide, hey, it's getting close to August.
(06:52):
Maybe I'll go look at my four to OHO one K,
Maybe I'll go look at the index funds that I hold.
You've got record money, and I think people are feeling
that you are not seeing skyrocketing inflation. Inflation remains low
and in general wage growth, which is really I would
argue the most important single stat is is wage growth
(07:16):
outgrowing cost of goods. If you had to synthesize what
makes you feel like you're doing better in general, it
is when your income as a worker is growing faster
than the cost of the goods that you purchase with
your income. And we have a situation where Trump has
reversed the downturn of Biden, and your incomes are growing
(07:38):
faster than the things that you have to buy now,
I think this is important. The prices are never going
to come back down, and this is the toxicity of inflation.
By and large, we never hit negative inflation. There are
all sorts of negative connotations economically that would occur. So
the pernicious, awful, dastardly part of inflation is is it
(08:00):
does not ever go back. You're wanting to buy a
hamburger for three dollars instead of five, it's never going
to get returned to the three dollars. All you can
do is slow the rate of growth, which is why
I always compare it to putting on weight. If you're
continuing to put on weight, sooner or later. The fact
that you're putting on weight at a lower rate does
(08:22):
not mean you're not going to be fat. And so
all of those are major issues that unfortunately are going
to stay with us from the Biden regime. But Trump, Look,
he ran on a economy, border crime, and six months
in buck I can't remember a president who has more
delivered on the things he said he would deliver on
(08:43):
than Trump in the first six months has everything that
he ran on. Economy, border crime is infinitely better than
it was under Biden.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
And we're not even doing the comparison you could do,
which is imagine I Kamala Harris was president, right, Well, yeah,
none of this and you know that would be the
thing that most people would go to if Trump had
underperformed a little bit the first six months, ran into
some stumbles or whatever. You could always do the well,
at least it's not Kamala. And in this case, it's
(09:12):
like comparing the top student in the class to the
worst student in the class. Right, I mean, the difference
is night and day between the administration that you are
getting right now and what could have been and what
forty eight percent forty nine percent, No, it was more
than that forty nine percent of the American people voted
for in this last election, which is insane, which is
(09:33):
to have Kamala Harris in charge of this economy, none
of these trade deals would have gotten done Trump. This
is just one of these moments where remember we said
we learned a lesson from the first term, which was
everyone quote unquote everyone said Trump is wrong on China.
He's wrong to take the approach you to to China.
(09:54):
And not only was it correct in the implementation, it
was so correct that Biden didn't change it because they
knew that it would cause problems, it would be bad. Right,
So he was right on China when everyone said he
was going to be wrong. Play. I think what we're
seeing again is Trump will be right on trade negotiations
when quote unquote everyone said that he would be wrong.
(10:15):
Here he is on the trade deal with the EU.
We didn't even talk about this in specifics. Yet this
is cut eight play it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
This started months ago, this negotiation, so we knew pretty
much what we were getting into, and we were able
to make a deal that's very satisfactory to both sides.
So it's tremendously it's a very powerful deal.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's a very big deal. It's the biggest of all
the deals. It will be the biggest of all the deals.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So we're very honored to have done so.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And it's a huge deal with the EU, as I said,
the largest actual economic zone on the planet because it's
all those countries put together. And now clay American producers
will be operating on a more level playing field with
trade partners like the EU. There's hundreds of billions of
dollars of investment that's agreed to from the EU. Here
(11:06):
there's a lot of US energy that's going to be bought.
Additional energy is going to be bought by the EU. Now,
I mean this is it's so good that they can't
even come up the Trump haters can't even come up
with a way to tell you it's bad. I think
that tells you everything.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, look, I think they're running scared. I mean I
talked about this a little bit over the weekend. I
think Trump has been proven right on the Epstein stuff,
which I know people are still somewhat fired up about.
But Democrats, and I think there's audio of Trump talking
about this, but Democrats had these Epstein files for four years.
They're losing on the economy, they're losing on border, they're
(11:43):
losing on crime. So now they're trying to say, oh,
Trump's to blame for Epstein, and my thing on that
would be, well, you had the files for four years
under Joe Biden, Why did you not release everything? Why
did you not bring all the charges. We'll see what's
gonna end up happening there. But I do think it's
worth you all thinking about this. They've pivoted from economy,
(12:04):
border crime attacks to hey, all we can really hit
Trump on is Epstein, And that is I think a sign,
honestly of how well he's doing on all the major
big issues the EBC, economy, border crime that he ran
on in the first six months, that they're not even
really coming after him. I think they've recognized buck that
(12:25):
going after Trump on hey, he's deporting too many people
is actually harming them. You know, The Wall Street Journal
had an incredible that graphic over the weekend. Maybe we
can talk about this a little bit. Democrats have hit
a thirty five year low in popularity. That's pretty extraordinary
and the lowest level of popularity that has ever existed.
(12:48):
Because they are picking a lot of things to attack
Trump on that the vast majority of the American public
agrees with.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Him on it is a good day everybody. Trump is
taking a much deserved victory lap, and just look at
what's going on with the economy all around you. I
know that sometimes good is less interesting or grabs the
attention less than catastrophe, especially in the news business. But
(13:14):
there will be challenges ahead, trust me. Take take it
in that things are going well right now. One of
the challenges Trump talked about was really no progress with
Russia at all, So we can talk more about that.
Trump is ticked off at Putin. I could tell you
from watching that interview this morning and previous statements he's made,
So that's something that's going to get more attention now.
And I think Trump has the wind at his back.
(13:37):
I think Putin is underestimating the kind of pain that
Trump is willing to inflict economically on Russia to bring
this thing to a conclusion. So we can talk about
that as well. But on trade, Trump is not tired
of winning. President Trump is right on the money, that's
for sure, and it's just evidence of how hard he's
working to make the economy roar. Now that's fantastic, but
(13:59):
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we had Trump
eat talking about the big prey deals, truly momentous. And
we've also got JD. Vance who was in Ohio and
he's speaking there. JD covering a whole range of topics.
But one thing that I think might have stuck out
(16:05):
to people a bit is in the course of talking
about the usual things that the vice president would speak about.
I remember Jade Vance, a guy who grew up in
the heartland under rough circumstances, and if you've read Hillbilly
lg his best selling memoir, you certainly know the challenges
that he faced. But as he was in Ohio, he
(16:29):
addressed something that you may have seen some viral video
of over the weekend, and assault a gang assault really,
or an assault by a gang of people, I should say,
a whole group of people in at a jazz festival.
And here is how it went. Here's jd Vance talking
about a play.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Well I saw as a mob of lawless thugs beating
up on an innocent person, and it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
How to help every single one of those people who
engage in violence as prosecuted to the full cited law,
and they will be.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
They will be so long as law enforcement in the
state of Ohio takes their job seriously. I know Dave
Yos cares a lot about these things, but but yeah,
I actually.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know, you're right.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Bertie did send me a clip of this and we
talked a little bit about it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know the full context.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I don't know how the fight started, but the one
part that I saw that was really gruesome is you
had a grown man who sucker punched a middle aged woman.
And where I come from, at least when you have
a grown man whose sucker punch is a middle aged woman,
that person ought to go to jail for a very
long time. And frankly, he's lucky there weren't some better
people around because they would have handled it themselves. But
(17:36):
if they're gonna not gonna handle it, the cops in Cincinnati,
the law enforcement, you've got.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
To prosecute people. Clay, I totally agree with JD. Sentmen here.
Just a couple of quick thoughts on this first off,
as we were about to pull this up, I just
wanted the latest details. I think I couldn't go to
the New York Times for it. Yeah, I couldn't go
to the Washington Post for what is a viral video
millions and millions of views over the weekend. And in
the video you see to a white man and a
(18:02):
white woman surrounded by people who are black, attack them,
are kicking them on the ground, kicking the guy on
the ground, and then a woman comes over it toward
the end. I believe it's is his wife or his girlfriend.
That's the part I was trying to get the details
on and some other. A guy again, a black male,
(18:22):
punches this woman in the face out of nowhere, knocks
her out cold. I mean looks like she could have
had You know, you can fall down from a punch
in the face like that. This has happened. This isn't
just theoretical and slip into a coma and die from
hitting your head on the concrete. You know, this is
these kinds of violent assaults. Our society has to be
a little more clear about a few things, Clay when
(18:42):
it comes to the criminal justice. I know that people
want to treat like Wall Street insider trading like you know,
you should go to prison for the rest of your life,
you know, because that. But actually violence should be the
thing that is violence, sexual violence, these are the things
that should be the most severely punished by law, and
I think that the law should be changed. I don't
(19:03):
know what they are in individual states necessarily, I don't
know what it is in Ohio. But if you are
stomping somebody who is defenseless on the ground as part
of a gang, there should be serious enhancements that send
you to prison for a long time for that, because
there's no excuse and no rationale for that that that
could be accepted. And then the guy who punched the
woman in the face. I mean, it was gruesome. And
(19:26):
the media is completely disinterested in this or uninterested in
this story.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, Elon Musk yesterday, so I haven't checked today, but
you just did a Google search to try to read
more about this, and this is what you just heard
jd Vance talk about because he's from Cincinnati and this
is from his hometown. And Bernie Marino, newly elected senator
from Ohio, shared this video over the weekend. Elon Musk
asked this question why zero stories end wokeness on Twitter?
(19:55):
Posted zero AP news stories about the attack, zero ze
Fox news stories about the attack. I have seen one
Fox News story this morning, so that has changed at
least zero PBS news stories about the attack. Zero New
York Time news stories about the attack. Zero NPR news
stories about the attack, zero ABC, zero NBC, zero CNN. Basically,
(20:18):
it's as if it hasn't happened. And what Jade Vance
particularly reference there is what you referenced as well, this
woman just getting laid out. And I would point out
that this is all on video, so there is a
certain but there's a certain cultural decision that's being made
(20:40):
when you see someone who is innocent getting beaten up
and your first thought is, hey, I'm going to get
my phone out and record it. I don't know how
many of these people recording are men, but if you're
a man and you see a woman get punched, your
thoughts should not be, oh, I want to make sure
or I get this on video. Well that that happened
(21:02):
at the end, right now, that happened at the end.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I just want to point out that there's a guy
who's on the ground, who's on the concrete, who's being
stomped by while people are videoing it, while people are
video Yeah, but by four or five different people running
up stomping him as he's defenseless on the ground, you
can kill somebody doing that. And then anybody who says
only though you can't doesn't know what the hell they're
talking about. You can actually kill somebody by stomping them
(21:27):
when they're on the ground on concrete. It is not
that hard for them to get a brain hemorrhage and
to die, right. It's just a horrific thing to do.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Here on how common this has become for and look,
I understand if it's like a twelve or thirteen year
old somewhat, but for society, for people just to stand
around while someone is potentially getting murdered in front of you,
and your first thought is, oh, I'm gonna make sure
I get this for the gram, like I'm gonna make
sure I get this for TikTok. What is the culture
(21:59):
that we have created where somebody's on the ground getting
stomped on and a huge percentage of the American public's
first thought is, oh, let me make sure I get
a good video of this, not let me stop the
fight from happening. Not let me stop the person on
the ground from potentially being murdered in cold blood right
in front of you. But hey, I want to take
(22:20):
this video so I can make sure that it goes viral.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And particularly if you're a man and your first thought
as you see a woman getting beaten up by a
man is let me make sure that I get this
on video. I look, sometimes maybe people are thinking, hey,
this is a crime, let me make sure that I'm
getting some video of that crime occurring, and being very
lenient maybe sometimes, but it doesn't based on the sound
(22:47):
and the the laughter and everything else. It doesn't seem
like people are thinking, hey, I want to make sure
I preserve some form of evidence of this violent act.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
The media is, broadly speaking completely Like I said, I'm
interested in the story. The first I did a Google search,
just a straight up Google search on this, and the
first news coverage that came up is the Hindu stand Times. Okay,
that's weird they covered this story. Yeah. I don't know
what kind of reportage the Hindu stan Times is generally
(23:18):
known for, but I wouldn't think it will be the
top of my Google search results, but it was. There's
some local coverage of this, like local TV news, but
you know, if it bleeds, it leads local news, they
still generally adhere to that maxim And and then there's
the other part of this play, which is anybody and
I'm sure we could have some some district attorneys or
(23:39):
former former Eightya's call in and tell us the same thing.
Nobody involved in this is going to get any really
serious punishment. I appreciate that. Jade Vance, the vice president,
says that he hopes that they punished the fullest extent
of the law. I can tell you they won't be
I can tell you that from friends of mine who
have worked for the New York District Attorney's office. There
is a sense that, you know, violence unless somebody is
(24:00):
killed or paralyzed, or there's something really horrific that is
the outcome of it. Like that, there's a hesitancy to
punish violent acts as severely as they can be punished
because there's a disproportionate amount of violence from some communities
and they don't want to run. They don't want to
deal with those statistics. They don't want to say, well,
(24:22):
we already have a quote unquote mass incarceration problem in
certain low income communities. We don't want to make that
situation even worse by punishing violence more severely. They should
punish violence more severely, though, this should be the top
of the list of what district attorneys go after and
say you can't do this.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The mayor of Cincinnati has finally issued a statement. Eleven
minutes ago this came down. He had prior to now
not said anything, so I suspect that JD. Van's addressing
this viral video likely motivated the mayor to put out
a statement again. This came from his Twitter account just
eleven minutes ago. I'm outraged by the vicious fight that
(25:02):
occurred downtown. Let me start with this calling that a
fight is not what I saw right. That was a
melee of.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
A It was a mom assault. It was a ten
on one beat down of somebody who was very clearly
defenseless after the first shoved to the ground.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
A fight is like one guy and another guy throwing
punches at each other. We all know what fights were
if you watch this video. This was not a fight.
It was a mob beating the crap out of one person.
It's horrifying to watch the mayor continues of Cincinnati. Unacceptable
and disgusting behavior, intolerable in any part of our community.
That's not who we are as the city. Since the
(25:41):
fight occurred, I've been in consistent communication with the chief.
Our police have been working around the clock to investigate
and bring perpetrators of violence to justice. Based on the
investigation and the urgent work of our police, I'm confident
arrests are forthcoming. For that reason, we're making every effort
to allow our off officers to do their jobs and
(26:02):
present formal results to the public rather than engaging with
early speculation and then that is the statement. So this
statement has just been put out in the last eleven minutes,
but this has gone megaviral.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
It will be we all know. Look, here's the reality.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
If if this had been a black couple that was
beaten by a white mob, it would be the number
one story in America. It would be everyone saying, oh
my goodness, every it would be leading every newscast. It
would be a sign of white supremacy sweeping through our nation.
But white couple gets the crap eating out of them
(26:40):
by a black mob.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
By the numbers, by the way, agenda, that scenario you described,
by the numbers would be incredibly rare, but the media
happens would would not treat it as incredibly rare. They
would go the opposite direction and act like, this is
the same thing with police violence. You know, if it's
against a if it's against the black guy, we're told
this happens all the time. It's actually incredibly you know,
(27:01):
excessive police violence. The same thing would be here if
you had a white mob beating up a black guy,
we would be told this is the this is the
like the new face of America, this is what's happening
all the time. They would exaggerate it in the in
the direction of lies one hundred percent. Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And so we will see what more comes out of that.
Maybe some of you in Cincinnati. We have at times
the number one radio show in Cincinnati, in Columbus and
in Cleveland. We appreciate all of you all over Ohio listening,
but some of you may know more about this or
the investigation in the Cincinnati area. You're welcome to call in.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
And I also just think that there should be I
don't know if there are, Clay, I think that there
should be laws that specifically target or specifically punish if
you are if you are part of a group that
is kicking somebody who is on the ground. You know,
if you punch somebody in the face, that's one thing.
If you break a beer bottle on a table and
stab somebody in the neck, it's another. Like we do
(27:58):
this with violence. If you are stomping somebody who is
on the ground, you should get serious prison time, not
I plead down to some misdemeanor. And you know I
will how many of these individuals you think are stomping
this guy on the ground will be their first brush
with the law. By the way, take a guess right.
I mean, we'll see, but it should be a very
clear thing. A society with honor would punish people for
(28:21):
doing this, whatever their skin color, whatever their background, all
punished severely.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, mob violence, I think again, there is no self
defense for mob violence, right. I think a lot of
people out there have seen two guys get in a fight.
Not ideal, obviously, we want less violence in the country,
but you can understand a face to face fight, most
people can in a lot of different context, much more
(28:48):
so than to your point, guys rolling around on the
ground already knocked down by the mob, and then you
just have a bunch of dudes running up and stomping
on him. I agree with you. I think the prosecution
and should be intense significant and to your point earlier,
we got to spend way more time still focusing on
violent crime, driving it down, putting those people behind bars,
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Speaker 1 (30:42):
Russia, Russia, Russia. You guys all remember that, right, big hoax.
Very frustrating for Trump Thattha deals it the first term,
but it is something that we have new and important
information about courtesy of our friend Taulcy Gabbert, the Director
of National Intelligence, and over the weekend she was speaking
about some of what she has found now that she
(31:04):
is the DNI who sits atop the entire intelligence community,
including the Director of Central Intelligence, which is currently Dcia Ratcliffe.
But Tulci Gabbard was talking about what she is, what
she is seeing, and how there's just no interest from
the media that was trying to use the Russia hoax
(31:27):
to destroy Trump in the first term, to tell the truth. Now,
I don't think that's surprising anybody, but we will continue
to follow this and to talk to you about it.
Here she is the DNI on Saturday on Fox News,
Fox and Friends talking about what she's found. Play nine.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
It's been interesting to see how the mainstream media has
either refused to cover this story at all. The headlines
or the lack thereof of newspapers Washington Post, New York
Times and others. In the days following this REALMSA have
actually been quite deafening in their lack of coverage, and
it's interesting to see how when they do cover this,
(32:08):
they don't actually cover the revelations that these intelligence reports
and the evidence that we release actually conveys to the
American people. They simply talk about their criticisms of it,
or convey Democrat politicians criticisms of it, but none of
them actually dealing with the truth that has been revealed.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
They don't discuss play anything in the specifics. Because we
now have more information than ever before about just how
manufactured this entire takedown effort really the soft coup against
Trump was. This was Now it's tough because for people
like you and me, we've been followings very closely, so
(32:54):
we already knew it was a soft coup. That hasn't changed,
that's only being bolstered. I don't think it's the concl
illusions are different, but the strength of the details and
the scope of the conspiracy is even worse than anybody
on our side of this could have known beforehand. Now
you see this new information they really were just cooking
(33:16):
up get rid of Trump campaign in the IC and
the intelligence community. Yeah, and I think it's just a again.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Right now, and we talked about this, and I give
I gave Trump credit. I don't know if you saw
it when Trump came out and said, hey, Obama is
going to be protected by the Supreme Court ruling on
presidential power, which we talked about.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
A lot last week.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I think this is primarily a function of getting the
historical record in order and also.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Pointing out how much of a lie this all is.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And sadly, everybody listening to us right now, as you
just laid out, knew this already. There are still huge
portions of the Democrat base that believe Russia rigged the
twenty sixteen election for Trump. That's what they believe. And
so the fact that this was in any way allowed
(34:14):
to happen as in some form or fashion without any
sort of significant consequences is I think, just incredibly unfortunate.
And by the way, this is I think also important.
I want to play this because I think Jade Vance
did an incredible job answering questions from reporters. I don't
(34:35):
know how many of you have seen this, but cut
thirty one, an AP reporter asked him, if report this
is where we are right, A lot of media are
not going to cover the revelations of Tulsa Gabbard. They're
not going to cover the success of the economy, the
success of the border. I give credit to the New
(34:58):
York Times for the actually cover over the weekend the
fact that violent crime is in many ways collapsing. I
don't think that's coincidental that cops are able to do
their jobs and suddenly violence crime, violent crime starts to collapse.
But notice what the attacks have become. They're actually now
attacking Trump for not doing in six months something that
(35:20):
Democrats didn't do in four years. And this is the
AP trying to attack jd Vance and President Trump over Epstein.
Listen to cut thirty one. Understand what's going on now.
The media and the Democrats don't want any consequences for Epstein.
They didn't even ask about this for four years. Now
(35:42):
they're trying to tie it because they don't have any
other criticisms to jd Vance and Trump. I just want
you to listen to jd Vance. This is cut thirty one.
How well he handles this question and think about his
answer Cut thirty one.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I got to make an observation that there's an interesting
thing about this case that the American.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
The scenes to totally ignore.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
For four years under Joe Biden's Department of Justice, the
media didn't give a damn about the Epstein files or
about the Epstein case.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
For literally twenty years, the story about.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
This scumbag, and he is a scumbag pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein.
He's dead now, But for twenty years you had Obama
and George W. Bush's Department of Justice go easy on
this guy.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
They didn't fully investigate the case, they didn't show any
curiosity about the case. And now Donald J. Trump is asking.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
His Department of Justice to show full transparency, and somehow
that's a criticism of Donald J. Trump and not Barack
Obama and George W.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Bush.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
If you want to criticize the people who aren't showing
full transparency, you ought.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
To go after the administrations that went easy.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
On Jeffrey Epstein, the administrations that concealed this case for
twenty years, and the administrations that failed to show full transparency.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I think it's well said again, as much as they
can possibly release out about the Epstein case, but the
idea that Democrats in some way have clean hands, or
the media that's suddenly pretending that this is a big
deal despite not covering it by and large during the.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Entire Biden regime.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
If you are a Democrat like Hakeem Jefferies or someone
of that ilk Chuck Schumer, now that is trying to
make the Epstein case a really big story. I actually
give credit because Joe Scarborough, I believe it was Congressman
Raskin from Maryland. He had on and we played that
audio for you and he said, hey, if this is
such a big deal to you, how come you didn't
mention it for four years when Joe Biden was in
(37:39):
office and he couldn't even answer it. I mean, that's
on Morning Joe with Joe Scarborough recognizing what's going on here.
They are trying to find They are desperate to find
something to attack Trump on. Now for the audience, say
something on the on the whole ebsence, And I really
mean this. This is going to sound this going to
(38:00):
sound like I'm being supercilious.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
It's another good word, you know, it's not not quite tertiary,
but it's not a bad word. It's gonna sound like
I'm being a little salty. But I really think the
Democrats once Biden took office, you know, the auto Pen
administration was so hell bent on Jan six prosecutions and
then prosecutions of Donald Trump. Right, so the criminal case
(38:25):
against Trump, the Jan six defensive democracy thing that I
don't know how much bandwidth they really had to focus
on anything else. Well, I mean the thing the most.
I really mean this. I think the single most important
focus of Biden's administration was prosecuting J six people, destroying
their lives and destroying Donald Trump using the legal system.
(38:47):
And that was I think that was tier one. I
don't think there was anything that was above that. So
I'm not saying this erase is the point about why
didn't they do anything with the Epstein files. But they
really were monomaniacal in their focus on J six Trump,
Destroy Trump, prosecute him, throw him in prison. And as
you said, Biden was even making snarky remarks about how
(39:09):
Trump was gonna go to He was gonna let Trump
go to prison, everybody meaning he of course colluded in
the whole process, but he wasn't gonna pardon him. He
was gonna let Trump go to prison. That was the plan.
So it's worth remembering that.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
So I think again there's a legal doctrine, clean hands
doctrine where you can't come in and claim suddenly you
care when you're being engaged in dirty behavior yourself. Now,
if trumps supporters, I think this is very fair, want
to argue, hey, what is the next what do we
think is the next important thing?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
And the reality is there are twenty different things that
are being worked on at any given moment, forty different things,
fifty different things inside of the White House that a
lot of people are not paying attention to, and it
doesn't get a lot of attention, but it's actually making
the country better in my opinion. But if Trump supporters
want to argue, okay, economy, border crime, also men and
(40:06):
women's sports, and we need to figure out what's going
on with Epstein all those things, I think that's very valid.
But be careful, be careful that you aren't providing the
slings and arrows that Democrats are using to try to
attack Trump and keep him from doing all of the
things that you want him to be doing. Does that
make sense? I think sometimes you have to be careful.
(40:29):
In attacking somebody or disagreeing with somebody publicly, you are
creating the arsenal with which the opposition then attacks because
the Democrat they're dishonest. The media is dishonest. They didn't
care at all about this. They're using Epstein not to
try to get justice, They're using Epstein to attack Trump.
(40:51):
There is a very big difference between those two things.
Democrats don't care about what happened to Epstein. They don't
care about his victims. If they did, they would have
focused on it the next four years. They just want
to get Trump. And this is where I think Trump's
frustration comes through. To the extent I'm channeling Trump, he
sees that I'm trying to do. This is Trump's perspective.
Everything we can to get as much information out publicly
(41:14):
about the Epstein files as we can. Democrats don't want that.
The media doesn't want that. They just want to attack
Trump and try to connect him to Epstein. Trump sees that,
and I think that's when he's answering and giving the
answers that sometimes are frustrating. It's because he's seeing the
next level and analyzing the motivations here as opposed to
(41:35):
the actual story. If that makes sense. Because I think
everybody's generally in agreement that people who engage in violent
acts and people who engage in criminal sex acts should
be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I
think that's something that the vast majority of Americans all
agree on, and certain the vast majority of Trump supporters do.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
There's also just a very simple and straightforward observation that
we can all share here, which is Democrats only started
caring about the Epstein situation when they realized that there
was a way to agitate Trump and try to separate
Trump from his supporters on this. That's it. Yes, that's it.
They say, yeah, this whole, this whole thing, this all Epstein,
and that we got to look into the Apstein. They know,
(42:16):
they didn't care about this at all, but they see,
you know, they see a way to try to throw
a little gasoline on the fire of a little a
little bit of an issue with Trump and some of
the Maga bass and they're just trying to go after
that politically. So now I'm not surprised that they're doing that.
Of course they're going to do that. I knew they
would as soon as there was this, uh, this static
(42:36):
that came up on this issue. And I think it's
one of the reasons Trump also gets so frustrated now
with the questions about it. He goes the Democrats and
the media that are asking about this. It's they're just
trying to create that They don't actually care what the
files could all be blank pages. They don't care. They
just know that anything they can do to try to
get Trump in his base to be at odds on
(42:56):
something they love, and that's all that. That's all that
they see this as. They don't see this as you know,
finding out, you know, what the elites really are doing.
They don't care about any of that stuff because a
lot of the people that are a lot of the
names that come up very clearly Democrat names that come
up in the world of Epstein stuff, so anyway, or
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Friday, I think we talked about this major cultural shift
that has occurred where the idea that hey, I'm gonna
put I know, we talked about this someone it was
happening because it was so crazy. But the the idea that,
for instance, Nike was going to put a man who's
(45:05):
pretending to be a woman in a sports bra and
be like, you should go buy Nikes, and all of
us kind of looked around, like this is crazy. And
then the thing that really got popular was hey, really
obese people in spandex, like, hey, you should wear spandex
and be really happy with your body even if you
(45:26):
were three hundred pounds.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
It was like, well, I don't know how I feel
about all this.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
There's really a revolution, I would say against those ads
because buying Mars they didn't work. And I talked about
this on Friday Buck. One of the best jobs I
ever had, maybe the most fun job I ever had,
was making four dollars and fifty cents an hour working
at the American Eagle Rivergate Mall Goodlettsville, Tennessee, when I
(45:53):
was in high school. And American Eagle stock has been
not good for much of the last five years, and.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I went back and looked at it.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's a very popular retail chain, and they decided, hey,
we've got to change our overall mojo and they said,
we're going to hire Sidney Sweeney. And Sidney Sweeney is
now doing ads for American Eagle that I think it's
fair to say are sexy in nature and in general
it's going to shock some of you.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
I think, how do you say it? It is a
fair to say it is a little.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Sexy for Sidney Sweeney. Yes, yes, well, some people don't
know who Sidney Sweeney is. But and I understand that
in the audience. But the idea being that in general
she's Buxom Buxom would be Buxom Last, Buxom last for sure.
That in general, one way that products sell themselves is
(46:47):
by putting pretty girls in the product and deciding that
people will want to buy products that pretty girls are
trying to sell.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
And this has been a trend for a very very
long time.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And so this ad is up and the what I
would call is the sort of fat, noseringed, pink haired
contingent of the world out there is angry that brands
are going back to good looking girls, and this has
(47:20):
gone viral. One of these left wingers, I want to
play this for you, Buck says that the American Eagle
ad of Sydney Sweeney is Nazi propaganda.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
Listen, should we be surprised that a company whose name
is literally American Eagle is making fascist propaganda like this?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Probably not, but it's still really shocking.
Speaker 7 (47:42):
Like a blonde haired, blue eyed white woman is talking
about her good gens like that is Nazi propaganda.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Nazi propaganda. Not a cute girl in jeans talking about
her good jeens is Nazi propaganda, according to the left.
Now I mentioned this, I think on Friday. Buck, I
don't know how you've ever been influenced by advertising involving
attractive women. I think the most direct result ever. And
(48:18):
my wife still makes fun of me about this. I
watched the victorious Secret Fashion Calendar Show or whatever that
thing's called. They do like a Christmas spectacus, I've heard
they do like a Christmas spectacular, a bunch of girls
in lingerie. I watched it, went out, bought like two
hundred dollars in lingerie for my wife maybe the next day.
I mean, I just went and bought everything, and I
(48:39):
was like, I'm a stooge, but this worked on me.
I'm gonna go get everything boom, bring it back all right.
So I can't speak for all men, but in general,
I would say that men are influenced by attractive women
trying to get them to buy things. But Nazi propaganda
and the question I asked, I would love to know
(49:01):
a lot of this are the same people who were
putting fat women into spandex and saying like, you're healthy,
even though obviously if you're super obese you're not.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Healthy, like you should lose weight.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Are those the same people do you think making the
ads now and they just recognize that the cultural wins
have shifted, or do you think these companies fired the
people who did such an awful job doing I mean,
Victoria's Secret's a perfect example of this. They were like,
we're gonna do away with supermodels and just put our
product on regular people. And people are like, this is
(49:39):
not you know, like I don't want to know what
I'm going to look like. I want to I want
to pretend that I'm going to look way better, Like
I don't buy I don't buy a bathing suit and think, oh,
I'm going to look as good as the guy who's
in the bathing suit ad. But I definitely don't want
to look like nobody's going to buy an ad if
I'm in the bathings, I'm in the bathing suit ad. Like,
this is not a way to sell products.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I think. I think that the people who were doing
the ads before in many cases are the ones who
now have shifted with the wind. That would be my
just same people.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
They just completely they've made principles like the Yeah, I
mean you see this with a lot of people in
the in the corporate on the corporate side of things,
they just whichever way the wind is blowing is how
they're gonna as how they're gonna go.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
And and I think that this was pretty inevitable. There
is a part of this as well that maybe doesn't
get as much attention or focus, but the whole body
positivity thing. Yeah, as people become more and more health focused,
and I really mean that in the broadest term health focused,
but learn more about this stuff, and also as the
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(51:26):
is the idea that you could be morbidly obese and
should be proud of That is very similar to the
idea that you could be so inerrexic that your you know,
your central nervous system could shut down and people would
be like, oh, yeah, look at how skinny you are. Right,
I mean this, it's deeply unhealthy, and more and more
(51:50):
people I think, have realized this. I don't mean it's
unhealthy like you don't look sexy in a bikini. That's
a whole other universe of thinking, or whole other perspective
on it. It is you are heading toward a shortened lifespan,
less mobility, less energy, poor sleep, type two diabetes, heart
all this stuff. So I think body positivity more has
(52:12):
also played run into not just a cultural pushback on
this madness, but also science. Yeah, the science, you could say,
I think people are seeing this more and more. It's
also why I would note, and this is a really
positive thing. Binge drinking in the culture has really gone
down substantially. There's a lot of data to support this.
(52:33):
Drinking in general is on a decline. You know, excessive drinking.
I le'll talk about having a glass of wine or
two with dinner, but drinking as a form of almost
sport to excess because it is horrible for you. And
if you want to be healthy and you want to
feel good, drinking so much that you wake up the
next day with a hangover on a regular basis is
(52:54):
essentially throwing a hole, is throwing a wrench into all
of your plans. So I think that this is a
a pretty seismic shift. And yes, hot chicks are a
part of it. That is also true. There's going to
be more of a focus on the aspirational side of beauty,
and because if everybody is physically beautiful, then like nobody's
physically beautiful, right, I mean, well, we're all doing the
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best of what we got. Very few of us win
the genetics lottery the way that the Victoria's Secret Models do.
But that doesn't mean that we all just give up
and you know the side that we're going to go
the Rosie o'donald route. You know, it can be a
little more. You can put a little more thought into
your health, into your appearance, into all of those things.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Aspiring to be healthier and stronger and all of those things,
I would argue is one of the most important things
that young men and young women can be taught. And
it doesn't mean that you're gonna, to Buck's point, look
like a Victoria's Secret Supermodel if you're a woman, or
you're gonna look like Superman if you're a guy. But
getting in the gym and trying to get stronger is
(53:56):
a really good thing. And I do think that younger
people are cognizant of this, and there are some negatives.
Because I'm raising three young boys, there are some negatives.
I think that their society is embracing that are different
than prior generations. You know, there is a benefit to
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taking risk. A lot of kids today, for instance, don't
want to get driver's license. They're happy to just stay
on their phones as opposed to going out on dates
or going out.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
I think that's having an impact across the board. But
it is true, like my kids, when they see someone
smoking a cigarette, they react like someone is shooting As
young kids, they would react like someone was shooting up Heroin.
I grew up in an era when somebody's mom always
was smoking cigarettes in the car with the windows all
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rolled up and h and you know, you were always
like trying to just get a breath and it's cold outside,
and you know, the whole car is just filled with smoke. Heck,
I remember you know this certainly. Remember when every bar
you went to there was just a cloud of smoke everywhere.
Remember when they had smoking sections and restaurants and that
(55:10):
was a laugh because the smoke just went everywhere. You
go into a bar now and there's nobody smoking. I mean,
there are a lot of decisions that have been made
that I think are beneficial, and I think to your point,
young kids are not using drugs now. One downside is
they're actually using marijuana, which is much stronger at levels
(55:32):
that are somewhat high, and that is maybe more destructive
than using alcohol would be on some levels, because the
marijuana kids are using today is much stronger than the
marijuana that would have existed twenty five or thirty years ago.
And our friend Alex Berenson has wrote a whole piece
about how destructive that can be. I think we kind
of sold the idea that pod is not dangerous, and
(55:53):
the frequent use of pot is actually incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
So there's all the air of public policy where I
will admit I was. I was. I think it's very
rare for me to be bamboozled. But on the it's
no big deal weed, legalize it, no big problem I have.
I am very much in the other direction.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I don't think people should obviously get locked up or
something for smoking weed, But this notion that we should
just allow it, it's everywhere. It's a it's a total
mess in New York City. Now, you walk down the
street and I walk down the street with my baby
and people are blowing marijuana smoke in our faces all that.
It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
It feels to me almost like marijuana smoking is more
common than cigarette smoking. Now, yeah, we just certainly I
smell marijuana in New York City. I was just there
more frequently than I smell cigarette smoke. That is a
true statement walking around Midtown Manhattan. And and it is
not harmless. It is very bad for your mental health.
There's a lot of stuff. But we were all we
were lied.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
We were told it was all about getting people, you know,
treatment for their glaucoma, to help with their pain. It
was all gonna be. It was gonna pay for all
the schools. Right. No, because when you tax a lot
of weed is so easy to make or so he's
to grow, rather that when you tax it heavily, you
just the black market just grows even more because people
want to just get it. They don't want to pay
these higher prices.
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