August 1, 2025 • 64 mins
Kamala Reappears
The guys break down Former Vice President Kamala Harris’s reemergence in the media spotlight via her extended interview with Stephen Colbert, marking her first public appearance since losing the 2024 election. The hosts dissect Harris’s decision not to run for California governor, despite favorable polling, and her claim that the political system is “broken.” They argue this is a deflection from her long-standing role within that very system, suggesting her advisors see a gubernatorial run as a step backward. The conversation pivots to speculation about her potential presidential ambitions, with both hosts asserting that her candidacy would benefit Republicans due to her perceived lack of political effectiveness.
Clay and Buck critique Harris’s leadership, branding her as emblematic of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) politics and lacking substance. They highlight her vague response to questions about Democratic Party leadership, framing it as evasive and uninspiring. The hosts also scrutinize Stephen Colbert’s partisan bias, noting his history of hosting only Democratic guests and his derogatory remarks about President Donald Trump, whom they defend as the current president.
Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno
Senator Moreno gives a deep dive into the viral Cincinnati mob attack on Holly, a middle-aged single mother of a special needs child, and her friend. Senator Moreno recounts the brutal incident, highlighting the failure of local law enforcement, the understaffed Cincinnati police department, and the lack of leadership response from figures like Congressman Greg Landsman and the city’s mayor. Moreno calls for urgent reform, threatening to push for federal funding suspension if Cincinnati fails to implement a safety plan within 30 days. The story underscores broader concerns about violent crime in American cities, with parallels drawn to issues in Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, and Dayton.
The conversation pivots to media bias, with criticism of outlets like CNN and The New York Times for downplaying the attack and misidentifying Holly as a Russian national. The hosts and Moreno argue that if racial roles were reversed, the incident would dominate national headlines, sparking debates on white supremacy and racial justice.
Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin
Senator Mullin joins to discuss the Senate nomination bottleneck, revealing that Democrats have filibustered nearly every Trump administration nominee, breaking historical norms. Mullin outlines potential rule changes, including invoking the nuclear option, to overcome the gridlock and accelerate confirmations of U.S. attorneys, judges, and executive appointments.
Data Guru Ryan Girdusky
Political strategist and podcast host Ryan Girdusky joins to analyze shifting voter demographics and the evolving political landscape. Girdusky highlights a dramatic 44-point swing among men under 30 toward the Republican Party, citing Pew Research data and insights from progressive analyst David Shor. He attributes this trend to cultural backlash against the Democratic Party’s perceived authoritarianism, especially during COVID-19, and the influence of Gen X parents—now the most Republican demographic. Girdusky also discusses the growing Latino support for Republicans, noting that two-thirds of Biden-to-Trump voters are not returning to the Democratic Party, signaling a long-term political realignment.
The conversation also explores the future of Kamala Harris, the rise of progressive figures like Bernie Sanders and AOC, and the impact of gerrymandering on congressional control. Girdusky argues Democrats are more aggressive in redistricting, citing states like Illinois and Maryland, and warns that the party’s shift leftward may alienate moderate voters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of The Clay Travis
(00:04):
and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is a summer Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I hope you're all in a good mood because it's
a great time in America, my friends, a great time
for this country, and I want you to enjoy it.
August first today. Can't believe how quickly the time is
going by. And we have a lot of news to
talk to you about. So we're going to send you
off for the weekend with everything you need to know,
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everything that's going on, Clay, because I am a team player,
a dedicated co host, and somebody who's willing to take
one for the team, somebody who's willing to take those
slings and arrows. I didn't just watch the Kamala Harris
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televised Colbert interview. Oh no, sir, I watched the entire
extended online version of the interview, which.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I appreciate you taking the bullet I have not watched it.
I mean I saw the clips all circulating. This is
the first interview. For those of you out there who say,
why would you pay attention, This is the first interview
she's done since basically she lost the election. She vanished
for what are we sitting on now, like seven or
eight months and now suddenly is showing back up and
she chooses, of course Colbert as her debut.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is such a reminder now, Clay you, I want to
be clear here, Clave was not saying, and we have
a steak on this one, and I'm I'm still trying
to get back the world's most expensive steak that I
had to buy for Clay, right, so there's got to
be payback here.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It was very good and.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
There was a whole light show that went along with it,
so we had some fun here in Miami Beach. I
hear about this place, Bourbon Steak in Nashville, which has
incredible views and is very change.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
To be fair, it's a chain and I'm gonna make
enemies today. But if you were visiting Nashville and you
were asking for where to go steakhouse, because it's all
the way at the top, like forty third story, you
can see the whole city, I would suggest that that's
the best steakhouse to go to. I just now, as
long as it's expensive, as long as you have to
take out that Clay credit card and we do substantial damage,
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that's what I'm really looking for because I'm still smarting
over the Miami Beach steak. But to be clear, Clay's
thinking in a few years. And we're not going to
get too into the back and forth on this today,
but we did that yesterday that Kamala is at least
going to run. Yes, that's not a crazy I think
that that's not going to happen, but that's obviously our bet.
I think we both agree if she runs, that's amazing
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for Republican or rather, if she were the nominee and one,
that would be amazing for Republicans, which means I think
we both see this as this is one of the
worst politicians to have been at this level a vice
president stepping in to run as the nominee that we
have ever seen. I just wanted to share with some
of you so Clay and I could could have it
do a little joy riding here through the Colbert interview. Clay,
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you haven't even heard all of these yet, because some
of them are from the I wanted to react to them.
In all honesty, I knew this was going to happen.
I knew we would lead with it, and I want
to react as if a lot of you out there
are two. I have not heard one. I've seen the
clips circulating, but I purposely did not watch any of
them because I knew we'd be reacting to them.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I just want to point this, Why did I start
off today talking about it's a good time for the
country in it is? I saw the jobs numbers not great.
I understand it's one month, no big deal. Economy overall
doing really well, and we'll get into some of those
specifics here at a moment, but I think it's important
to remind you all that this person that we're about
to play the clips from could have been the President
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of the United States, Okay, that we could be sitting
here talking about President Kamala six months into her administration,
with a stalled out economy, a wide open border, rising
crime instead of the drops in crime that we're seeing
actually nationwide.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Now, never mind.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
All the the executive orders that that a Harris administration,
the staffers who actually run it would have not It
would have been a nightmare. And I just think when
you start to listen clay to some of these Kamala clips,
I mean, first of all, we have her saying that
she's decided not to run for governor because the system
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is broken.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Clay play cut this has cut five play.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Five announcement that you're not running for the governor of California. Correct,
even though in early polling you beat every other Candida
by double digits.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
You said you're gonna set this one out.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why are you sitt this?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Are you sitting yourself for a different office?
Speaker 6 (04:40):
That might be.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That's what everybody was obviously, but obviously people will project onto.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And honestly that it's it's more fats basic than that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I am.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Listen, I am a devout public servant. I have spent
my entire career in service of the people, and I
thought a lot about running for governor.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I love my state. I love California.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I've served as just elected district attorney, Attorney General, and senator.
But to be very candid with you, I you know,
when I was a young young in my career, I
had to defend my decision to become a prosecutor with
my family.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And one of the points that I made is why is.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It then, when we think we want to improve a
system or change it, that we're always on the outside
on Ben Didnee or trying to break down the door.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Shouldn't we also be inside the system?
Speaker 6 (05:40):
And that has been my career, and recently I made
the decision that I just for now, I don't want
to go back in the system.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I think it's broken, broken because she didn't win Clay,
That's why it's broken.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I hate this. I hate this. She's been in the
system for her entire life. You and I and every
taxpayer out there has funded Kamala Harris's entire life. Has
she ever had a private sector job that means taxpayer
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dollars are not funding her existence? I don't think so.
Maybe when she claims to have worked at McDonald's as
a teenager, but as an adult she has worked inside
of the state apparatus at California and then inside of
the federal government apparatus as a senator and as a
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Vice president. You don't get to work inside of a
system for thirty years, thirty five years, whatever the heck
the math is, and then suddenly step outside of it
for six months and say, hey, I don't want to
go back into it because it's broken. I think, and
I said this yesterday, and I am going to die
on this hill. I think her advisor said it's actually
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a backward step for you to be governor because you've
already been a senator, you've already been a vice president.
You don't need to prove anything by being governor. And
so just take a little bit of time, Just take
a little bit of time off, and then you can
decide to run next year, a little bit after next year,
early twenty seven to be president.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, and if she lost, I think you and I
agree on this point, if she lost the California governor's race,
since she really is toast her career, she really is toast.
I still think that really what I'm seeing here with
this Colbert appearance. And by the way, this goes to
for anyone who's gonna say, and we're gonna get the
emails that momentarily, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Why are you talking with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Who's the leader of the Democrat Party?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Who is the leader right now? This matters? And in fact,
she was asked on the Colbert Show who the leader
of the Democrat parties? This has cut eight and you
got a very Kamala answer on this one.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Listen, who's leaving the Democratic Party?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Lots of lead and it was generally all.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Leader of the Democratic Party, you know, like, oh, that's
the leader Donator party.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Who comes to mind.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
I think there are a lot of I'm not going
to go through names because then I'm gonna leave somebody
out and then I'm going to hear about it. But
let me just let me say this. I think it
is a mistake for us who want to figure out
how to get out and through this and get out
of it, to put it on the shoulders of any
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one person.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It's really on all of our shoulders.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It really is everything that she says.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Clay sounds like the HR person at the soulless company,
lecturing you as you're forced to have like an all
hands for HR purposes. It's all she speaks to everyone
like we're all morons and no one can escape the boring,
inane things that she.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Has to say.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
She is the EI personified. I do think that leave
aside her individuality, she is THEI personified. She looks like
what Californians think their leader should look like. That is,
you know, she's mixed or ace Asian mixtuor ace black
woman attractive, and she is that sort of portrait on
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the wall of what California wants to see when they
see a leader, the problem is she really is an
empty suit. And that's I think largely what many people
out there have an issue with DEI best man or
best woman. Right, Let's apply the meritocracy. It doesn't matter
what your background is, doesn't matter who your daddy or
(09:44):
and your mommy were. This is why I think the
sports analogy applies. Nobody gets to start with a different
score on the scoreboard, right, And I think that that
is why I'm making this argument in my new book.
And I'm curious if you could think of something. Is
there any thing in sports, anything in the world of
American life right now, that's more trusted than the scoreboard
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where people just and if something's a little bit off, right,
if somebody forgets to put a run up, or if
the clock's a little bit off, everybody's pointing at it.
It's a common foundational thing that everybody looks at it
and says, I trust that to reflect reality.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I would like to share some sports analysis here, Yes,
that would build on what you were saying, And that
is the desire to always get it right is reflected
in some of the recent rule changes. I mean to
me the fact that I can't remember now I should
know this, but it's either Wimbledon or the French Open.
In tennis doesn't yet have all of the like for serves,
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it's still by the eye of the by the site
of the umps. There's actually technology now that can one
hundred percent get the lasers basically there.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And they're like this did or did not go in
They used to work and roll on Garo's back in
the day. They would look at the clay marks.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Remember that that judge would get up and look, yeah,
and you're right, but I see this now. Also in basketball,
you should drive me insane as someone who used to
watch the NBA.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
People want it to.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Be what it should be because they want the better
team to win every time. They want the truth to
apply facts to matter. Everyone does, and.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You see it. It is true.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You see this with sports where there is a true
sense of outrage that people. I mean, I'm still outraged
about when the Los Angeles came. I mean when the
Sacramento Kings had the LA Lakers steal a series from
them and the Kings would have won that I think
this is like twenty years ago now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, was one of the most famous. It's one of
the most famous Lakers, Lakers, Kings, Volati, Divac, Bibby, all
those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Back in the day. That series just kind of fell apart,
And I think we want to get back to feeling
in pollend. This goes to election integrity. This goes to
the honesty of the transparency. We're seeing the whole range
of things, Russia, collusion everything. We want to know what
the real scoreboard is in politics too, and what's going
on here and Kamala Harris coming out to give everybody
(12:12):
a lecture on how the system is broken after she
was the vice president for eight years. Why isn't she
telling us about how she fixed the system or fixes
she made to the system. No, it's all about bitterness,
which also goes to Colbert sitting there talk about bitter.
The whole thing was just so sad. It was two losers,
Colbert and Kamala, who were given far more than they deserve,
(12:34):
having a little cry session together because Trump is president.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, and I do think the symbolism of Kamala picking
Colbert as her first Back to the Grind interview to
the extended to Grind in any way, Colbert, if I
were sitting in Colbert's chair. I think the math came out.
They did the deep dive. He had one hundred and
twenty Democrat guests, and I believe it was zero Republican
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guest sitting in that chair. If you are on CBS
like that, I don't begrudge Colbert getting Kamala, but he
should be begging for Trump to come on too, right.
If that, I don't think a true.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Arbiter trying to appeal to everybody. We actually, we don't
have time for it now. Maybe if we want to play,
we come back. I don't think this again, I only
watched the extended, but I don't think this part of
it aired. You should hear what what what Colbert calls
the sitting president of the United States on his show
that is supposedly for all Americans to watch. I mean,
you should hear what he said about President Trump, so
(13:34):
we can play that for you. What he calls Trump
on this show, and how richly he deserves the cancelation
and the humiliation professionally that he has received. But Kamala
Harris is the most cringe inducing politician to have been
at her level, meaning the vice president that I can
remember and it's it's just it's funny to see that
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she's not the leader of the Democrat Party. She may
not even have a future. We'll see, we'll see, but
she may not have a future in politics. And there
is no leader of the Democrat Party, and the Democrats
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through
the Friday edition of the program, taking you into what
we hope is going to be a fabulous weekend. We've
got a couple of different guests coming to you this hour.
We're gonna head to the Senate Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno
about to be with us, and then Mark Wayne Mullen
(15:52):
from Oklahoma going to be with us. At the bottom
of the hour, we'll get into a variety of different
topics with them, and Senator Marino is with us. Now,
let's go ahead and bring him up. One of the
reasons that Republicans have a fifty three to forty seven
majority in the Senate is he flipped Ohio's Senate seat.
And we're going to get into a bunch of stuff
with you. Senator. Congratulations again on the big win back
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in November. But you have been aggressively following a story
that when megaviral an attack on what appears to be
innocent people in the streets of Cincinnati, that has been
a it feels like clarion call for many people all
over the country to acknowledge crimes of violence taking place
in many of our cities and how they've been allowed
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to happen. So let's start here for people who do
not know this story, kind of tell us a little
bit about it and what has happened to what appeared
to be a man and a woman who were victims
of violent mob beatings in the Cincinnati area, what the
response has been, and where we are, And thank you
for joining us in congrats again on your election win
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in November.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Well, thank you very much. Let me just start saying
that Cincinnati is a great American city, amazing people, they're
amazing companies. Is a storied city with amazing assets, but
with obscenely awful political leaders. So let me tell you
the story from the perspective of Holly. Holly's a middle
aged woman. She's a single mom of a special needs child,
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lives not too far from downtown Cincinnati. She wanted to
have a night out. She hadn't had a night out
in a long time. You know, for those people who
have special needs children, they know what this is like.
It's a all consuming mission of love. So she decided
she was going to go celebrate a friend of her
with a friend of hers his sixty second birthday. She's
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a little bit younger than that, but not much. They
went to downtown Cincinnati. They went to a nice club.
There's a jazz fest going on, so they participated in
those activities and went out to a place. As they
were walking out the door, a gentleman knocked him in
the head and you saw a brawl that ensued. Now
I say brawl, probably a mob of fifty people attacked
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this gentleman, knocked them unconscious three times on the ground,
dragged him by the foot into the middle of the street. Hawley,
of course, like any woman watching that, tried to stop
the fight and a complete thug beat her to the
edge of her life, knocked her down on the ground.
Her head fell on the ground, she got knocked unconscious.
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When she woke up, as she told me the story,
all she could think about is just how much blood
she saw me, just completely drenched with blood all over her. Finally,
towards the end, one police officer came over. The mob scattered.
The police didn't do much of a report, you know,
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the Society police unfortunately completely overwhelmed. They're down anywhere between
one hundred and three hundred officers. She went home in
an uber, then got an ambulance that didn't go to
the hospital, no police report. Literally got on her phone,
called in uber and went home. Of course, when she
got home, realized that the severity of her injuries, went to
the hospital and has had suffering from breathing problems, from
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cognitive issues. Again, this is a lady who's literally this
is attempted murder. There's really no other way to say
that she was knocked within an inch of her life.
And here's what's most distressing about this. You and I
understand tolls online and people online say all kinds of
stupid things, but I'm going to talk to you about
the leadership of the community, the political leadership. The congressman
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for that area, Greg Landsman, didn't make any comments about this.
Instead was tweeting about why we should send more money
to Ukraine. Now, however you may feel about Ukraine, when
your citizens are viciously attacked like that, I think that
takes priority, at least I think it should. The mayor
had gone to a Mayor's Misfit a conference of misfit
mayors up in Cleveland, and then went to Canada on vacation.
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Didn't come back until yesterday. This thing happened last Friday night.
The vice mayor make a statement till yesterday, and basically
her statement was leave us alone, we don't have any
help or get here. The chief of police blamed social
media instead of acknowledging that they're down one hundred and
three hundred officers and said that the whole story wasn't
exactly told. I'm not sure what other story you want
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to know, other than you had a middleaged woman that
got the crap keep out of her. Then a city
council member, Victoria Parks, remember that name, Victoria Parks. She
went on social media and said they deserved the beating
they got. You heard that right, that this middleaged woman
who did nothing other than try to stop a mob
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from killing her friend and got the life almost taken
away from her, got the beating she deserved. The judge
Mallory had set the guy who beat her up. He
had been in front of that judge a few a
few weeks earlier for all kinds of gun charges, led
them off on a four hundred dollars bail. This is
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to bottom system failure in the Cincinnati political leadership. I've
told them they have thirty days to put together a
plan to protect the civil rights of their citizens, staff
the police properly, and come up with a safety plan
for their citizens. And if they don't do that in
the next thirty days, the only tool I have is
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to ask the pussy the United States to suspend federal
funding to that city until they do. Now, of course,
the citizens have to do the long term work, which
is to get rid of these morons and replace the
top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
That's an incredible story, and I want to make sure
our team clips it because I think you illustrated it
all so very well. We're talking to Senator Bernie Marino,
who is discussing what happened in Cincinnati. Holly, you shared
her photos. I want everybody to see them, and so
I have retweeted it. Let's make sure that the Clay
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and Bucks social feed. They're brutal to look at. But
to your point, the fact that a police officer let
her get into an uber and after what happened to
her is staggering to me. I am somewhat encouraged. Jd
Vance has spoken out about this. I believe he lives
in Cincinnati. The veak Ramaswami aggressively has spoken out about this.
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I know he's running for governor. You are speaking out
aggressively about this, and it sounds like a lot of citizens,
including restaurant groups. I saw the local downtown restaurant group,
the Ruby Conglomerate, and I think they have a great steakhouse.
I know they've got one in Nashville. They got him
all over the place. But it sounds like citizens are
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using this viral incident as evidence that they're fed up
with what's been allowed to take place in Cincinnati. And
I think this is a sort of a larger, smaller
story of Cincinnati. But I think every city in America
has a story like this, which is why it's caught
so much fire.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Yeah, you're exactly right. I think this is a moment
where we say not enough. We're not just going to
continue to move out in the suburbs of rural America
to have law and order. We're going to take back
our great American cities. You see the Mandami movement, I
call it on the other side, which is lawlessness, defunding
the police, all kinds of insane communist policies. And I think, honestly,
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as conservatives, by the way, as just normal Americans, we
gotta say no, I'm sorry, We're not going to relinquish
our great American cities to these lawless mobs, and we're
gonna take our cities back. And for me, that is
restoring Cincinnati, the greatness, Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, Dayton, these are
cities that have been completely mismanaged for decades. You know,
(23:40):
my wife is from near Chicago. She used to love
going to Chicago. After watching that video, my wife is
about Holly's age. If that happened to me and my wife,
I can't even imagine what this would be fuel would
it if that was your mom, what would you feel
like if that happened to her? And then I'll give
you one more wrinkle to the story that's happening as
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I speak to you right now. The police Department, now
they deny that they did. The New York Posts says
they did. They claimed that Holly is a Russian national
that fled back to her country because of course Russia, Russia, Russia.
Holly was born and raised in Ohio, has no ties,
She's Germanic background, has no as are a lot of
people there have nothing to do with Russia. But you
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see how they're trying to disparage her and the mob
angry machine on the Democrats side. These are evil, horrible people.
And I said to the chief of police, I actually
told my team to tell her I have no interest
in talking to her until they correct that record. Because
the New York Times ran a story the headline was
Russian woman attacked. It's not a Russian woman, It's an
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American citizen that was brutally attacked, an innocent person. I
was on with another friend of yours earlier and he
wanted to start a goal fund me pages that please
don't do that without Holly's permission. I called Holly just
this morning and she said, I really don't want anybody
doing that for me. This is somebody who just wanted
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She's just an normal American wants to live a good life.
And the idea that they even attempt to villify it.
I called Jake Tapper on Sunday. I asked Jake Tapper
to cover the story. He said he'd look into it.
Silence from CNN. Silence.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, of course, by the way, that's a you called
Jake Tapper to cover this story. Let me tell you,
Sanatra Marino uh covering the story, that's a waste of
your phone call.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I've known Tapper.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Is interesting to point out because if you flip the
races here in any way, it would be the number
one story in America. We'd be having a national conversation
about white supremacy and how unsafe it is for black
people to go anywhere in this country. And the fact
that you got a mom of a special needs kid
getting knocked out in the streets of Cincinnati, it does
say something that's CNN and MSNBC just yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean, there's also there's no we all saw the
video the woman getting attacked.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
She's doing.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
She's just trying to stop somebody from being beaten to
death in the street and then punch her in the face.
It's such a vicious and criminal thing to do, felony,
criminal thing to do. Where's Governor de Wine on this,
Center Marino?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What's up with him?
Speaker 8 (26:10):
So the governor has offered This is even crazier part
of the story. So the governor offered the City of
Cincinnati state highway patrols all kinds of assets, different task
forces that he can bear, that bring to bear for Cincinnati.
No charge. By the way, say, look, the state will
provide this. We won't charge you a cent. The Vice
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mayor turned it all down, and then the mayor overrode her,
and they took just a piece of it, which is
just this the troopers doing traffic routine, traffic stops. But
this was the Mayor's like, we don't need any help.
We're good.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So Governor de Wine wants to help, and they don't
want the help like they've got.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
They don't want to help. Great, and what's happened as
a result, two big conventions have been canceled this week
in Cincinnati. One company's leaving downtown. We again, we can't
let this happen. We can't let our cities just just
be taken over by these lunatics. And by the way,
this is about the destruction of America. Let's just be
clear about that. This isn't about just Hally. This is
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a pattern of destruction of our country, starting with our
big cities, and we have to take those cities back.
And that's why I'm on this story. That's why we'll
be relentless on this story, because we cannot just turn
the other way and say, well, yeah, New York and
so is Chicago, and oh well no, we're going to
take these cities back. We's what President Trump has done
here in Washington, d C. This is becoming a different
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place because President Trump has said, I'm not putting up
with it. This should be a shining city. This is
our nation's capital and it's not going to be disgraced
by moronic leaders.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Bernie, you mentioned the disaster. I thought press conference from
Cincinnati's sheriff for the person who's in charge in theory
of protecting the people of Cincinnati, what in the world
are they even saying when she said, oh, we don't
have the full context of the video. Buck and I
came on and talked about this. I don't know what
context you need to see to know that twenty dudes
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trying to beat up one other guy is not in
any way or I mean, this is not self defense,
this is not it no matter what happened. Have they
even tried to contextualize that and say what she was
even attempting to explain? Do we have any idea?
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Well, what she's trying to do is just brush it
all under the carpet, right. She's not explaining why she
didn't get called into an ambulance and taken to a
hospital immediately, why there weren't cops on the scene, And
the answer is because she has to then admit they're
down anywhere between one hundred and ten to three hundred
police officers, And how do you let that happen? How
do you how are you a leader of a police department,
a police chief in a major American city and you
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and you're down one hundred and three hundred officers? This
is this is insanity. And then to disparage the victim,
by the way, there's no context you need for Holly.
Holly's a middle aged woman that almost.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Got murdered by a mob totally.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Yeah, right, So there's no context needed, that's it. So look,
the chief is a mess. We need a top to
bottom flushing out of political leaders there people just care
about one. It's very simple. This isn't a complicated thing.
When you get elected, your job is to ensure the
safety and prosperity of your citizens. That's it. That's all
you have to do. And this is the opposite of that.
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It's sad because look again, Cincinnati is an amazing, great place.
We have all kinds of incredible assets there with incredible people,
and they just deserve better. And these leaders that just
camemagine the mayors in Canada. In Canada flipped the stript
and was there any context that George Floyd, was there
(29:38):
any conversations about maybe this or maybe that one? In reality,
there needed to be a lot more conversation there, but
said that caused their entire country to have our cities
burned down. And here it's like, well, it doesn't fit
our narrative. Jake Tapper would become a citizen of Cincinnati
if the races were flipped. He'd be broadcasting their live
for tenny years.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Crime in your mind, based on what you've seen. Do
you think race played in? We got to go quickly,
But I'm just curious.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
She thinks it did. You know, I wasn't there, whether
she feels definitely that it did. That they were one
hundred percent targeted. They think it was a setup. That's
why they think so many cameras are there. I don't
know about that. You know, Cash Betel and Attorney General
Pam Bondi and Harvey Dyllon are going to be leading
an investigation there, so they're going to answer those questions.
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All I know is a middle aged woman from Ohio
should be able to go to dinner in Cincinnati and
not get beaten to death. Very simple.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Hey man, Sena Marino Sanity, thank you so much. Appreciate
you calling in. We'll talk to you. And anytime you
need someone who's going to talk about important stories and
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Well, by the way, you have ten times more people
that listen to you, so that you're also true, also true,
welcome any time, Senator, Thank you so much. Thank you guys.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. You just heard us
talking with Senator Bernie Marino about everything going on right
now surrounding that awful situation in Cincinnati. I mentioned that
we would be talking to another senator. He's joining us now,
Mark Wayne Mullen, Senator. Appreciate you joining us. I think
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the last time I saw you was pretty awesome. Event
was the NCAA Wrestling Championships. President Trump was there. It
was incredible in Philadelphia, so it was good to meet
you in person. There. There's a huge back bottleneck right
now inside of the Senate, one hundred and fifty different
(33:01):
some odd nominations being held up. What's the latest there
and what should happen in your mind with that bottleneck?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well, yeah, I wanted to talk about that because I
just want to point out something the Democrats always talk about, diversity.
But I want to talk about the diversity inside the
inside the Republican commerce. I mean, just look at the
difference the way that Bernie and I are built. I mean,
Bernie is built like a tech guy and I'm built
like an athlete. See, there's a big diversity between the two.
(33:29):
I mean, if you know Bernie, I mean he's he's
a car salesman, and you know I was. I was
a plumber. But if you also also know that he
he Bernie could become professional in one sport. By the way,
you're not fighting, obviously, he's probably one of the best
pickleball players I've ever played against.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
What is his strength? On about? You know? By the way,
I played pickleball for the first time ever. My wife
Laura got me out there. We had a good time. Yeah,
what's his what's his strength as a pickleball player?
Speaker 9 (33:58):
He is very size with his hits, and he can
get more spin and lift off the ball that I've
ever seen. He is. He is a technician when it
comes to it, and it drives me freaking. He will
make me run all over court and he won't move
two steps and it makes me so mad. In the matter,
you get it, pick a ball, the worse you get,
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and that is not my street.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Of a sports.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
That's really funny.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Sew that up.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
So the bottleneck. So dealing with the bottleneck, we have
a unique situation going on right now, is you know,
and I just want to thowt some numbers out there
to you. In Bush forty one, ninety eight percent of
his civilian nominees, which is ninety nine percent of the
nominees we do, ninety eight percent went by either UC
which is unanimous consent or a voice vote I meaning
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that the Senate actually never had to take a vote
on it, and it speeds a process up. In Obama
or Clinton, I'm sorry, ninety eight percent of his nominees
also went through my voice volt or a nineymous Ernie
Bush forty three, ninety percent of his went through. Ninety
percent of Obama's went through. And then when Trump came in,
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that's when this first term, that's when the bottleneck happened.
And so this time last year or this time in
twenty seventeen, there was only fifty five nominees that Trump
had got through. Now we have already confirmed one hundred
and twenty one nominees. But this is the first time
in history in history that a president of the United
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States has not had one single nominee go by unanimous
consent or voice vote. In fact, the only nominee that
hasn't been philibustered is Marco Rubio and that was our
very first one. Every since then, they had literally philibustered
every single nominee, which is why we had this bottleneck.
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But we're still we still have one hundred and twenty
one compared to President Trump's first term for fifty five.
So has done really good at saying we're going to
do this a hard way or the or the easy way.
And that's why this Congress has voted more times than
any Congress in three hundred or the last thirty five years,
because we're having to take it takes four votes per
nominee to get him confirmed. And that's crazy if you
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think about that, because we have to vote to go
in and out of session, meaning we got to go
from legislation session to executive session. We got to vote
to in vote culture, we got to vote to end culture,
and then we got to vote on the nominee. So
it is it's a it's a it's a long process,
and underneath the current process, it's it's impossible to do
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if you do it all in one day, if you
take every one of those votes every every day it's
in it's almost impossible to do more than to a day.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
So what should happen now, Sender? What what do you
want to see to break the log jam? We've had
a few of your colleagues on talking about this. I've
been very frustrated by this. I've seen Democrats once again,
and of course they're in the break the glass era
of anything goes to stop Donald Trump in whatever way
they can, as petty as it has to be.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
They're stopping US attorneys from getting through, they're stoping judges
from getting through. All good faith out the window.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
So what do we do? What do you want to
see your Republican colleagues do?
Speaker 9 (37:19):
It only leads us with really one choice. If they
won't allow the log in to be broken, start allowing
bipartisan nominees, at least those that are come out of
committee in a bipartisan vote. We have fifty five of
those setting right now. If they would at least allow
those fifty five to come through in a voice vote
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or a UC unanscent then if they won't allow us
at least do that, then we don't have a choice
about to change the rules. That's kind of the nuclear
option because it goes two ways, right, if you do
the nuclear option and then the newth option will always
stay in place. Harry Reid kind of did this, and
then Chuck Schumer really did this in twenty seventeen, which
Mitch McConnell irony of that. Mister connell actually warned about
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where we're going to be if that happens, and sure enough,
it's exactly what he said in twenty seventeen is where
we're at. And that's when if they ended the debate
on every nominee being thirty hours to two hours, and
what you're probably going to see is that we're going
to have to take that option even further to where
instead of having four votes, we're going to go in
and out of executive session, will do a day where
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you just you stay in executive session all day and
you limit to eight to maybe fifteen minutes, or you
limit debate to ten minutes, or you'd or you limit
or you or that you make the nominees where they're
non debatable. Even at that with the way the rules
are in the Senate, you could get down about two
an hour if you were to do if you could
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get that passed. The problem we have in the Senate
is we have some old guards that wanted to want
to protect the quorm, what they call it, the way
the Senate's always operated, and they don't want to change it,
and so we have some people that are very protective
of the rules and to get fifty one votes on there,
(39:06):
I believe we can do that. I wouldn't be surprised
if Jade Vance would have to come up here, a
vice President would have to come up here and break
the tie, because I think we'd probably lose some and
he would have to come up and break it. However,
that's probably going to be our option, and that's actually
what we're currently talking about as you and I speak.
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I stepped out of a conference that we're having, and
this has been a very structured and passionate meeting that
I stepped out of to discuss what our next options are.
And I believe the Democrats are going to force this,
so it wouldn't be us changing the rules. They have
got away from decorum the senators and on the Senate
side from the Democrats. On the Democrat side, I mean,
(39:50):
underneath the leadership of Chuck Schumer, they have got away
from the corm of the Senate, which is going to
force the.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Rules to change.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
We were just talking about earlier in the show, the craziness.
You were talking about the difference in the Republican caucus
in the Senate. You got Eric Swalwell posting videos of
him bench pressing one hundred and thirty five pounds, which
is good, you know, maybe good for my ninth grade
son who's trying out for his football team.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh Man rough days.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
Video.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, so you understand, like, yeah, hey, if you're a
one plate on the bench guy like that doesn't really
motivate a lot of guys to think, hey, this is
a big this is a dude that I can look
up to. But you also have you know, this Sidney
Sweeney thing has taken over all week where you got
a pretty girl doing a Jeens commercial and uh, and
Democrats have decided basically that that's just a code word
(40:45):
for Nazism. Big picture here, did you ever think that
Democrats would go this insane? And what Buck and I
were talking about is privately, are there guys on the
Senate floor who are Democrats and they just will say
to you privately like this whole men and women's sports
is just absolutely insane. I mean, they still have to
have some dudes right even on the Democrat side, who
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privately will point out that this is just absolute insanity.
Or are they like that in private too. I'm not
asking you to out guys who say it necessarily, but
I'm just kind of curious and normal guy conversations. Do
Democrats acknowledge how ridiculous all this is?
Speaker 9 (41:23):
And they this is this is quote what they say,
we have lost lost her f in mind. I didn't
say a word and said they they say that, And yes,
there is several of the guys and some of the ladies.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh did they just He's given us?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Oh wait, there we go. So you got cut off
there for a sec. You said, there's several guys and
some of the women that will say privately this is crazy.
Speaker 9 (41:51):
Yeah, Well that actually say we've lost her ever loving
mind or their mind. Yeah, And and they they absolutely have.
But this that they can move, And the reason why
they can't move is because they would lose their primary
election because their party has went so far that they
can yes, win a primary, but they're gonna have a
hard time winning the general. That's why you see these
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polls's that there's a thirty point swing between favorable and
unfearable is because this base, their base has become so woke,
so socialists, so anti everything that makes common sense that
they can't move off of it. But that's the base
they built. And it started honestly during the twenty fifteen
(42:33):
twenty sixteen election, and they and then and then they
just fed into it for four years underneath President the
Trump's first term, and and and they they wanted they
I mean a debatable if they want an election. I
actually don't say that, but I'm just saying they put
Biden office one way the next, and and at the
and then at the During that four years, it destroyed
(42:53):
our economy, destroyed the morale and and the and the
service industry. It destroyed the morale and and uh within
our men and women in uniform. It destroyed the morale
of our uh you know, of just common sense and
in any day walk of life. We saw what happened
in schools, We saw what happened during the school boards.
(43:13):
I mean, it just got crazy, and American people woke
up and said, we're not doing that anymore than they
put President Trump back in office. They can't get away
from that base tho. But privately they know it's destroying
their party. I think if they had their choice, they
would love to go back and to the JFK Democrats.
But you see what happened to Chuck Schumer. Let's just
(43:34):
look at what happened to Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer voted
with us to do a continued resolution to keep the
to keep the government open. He got destroyed at home.
I mean, here's a guy that's never had a tough
reelection and he got destroyed at home, and now AOC
is threatened to run against him. His behavior changed so
(43:54):
much because now he can't allow AOC to be to
his left that now he has behave just like that,
which is causing them to not be reasonable on anything
we're doing moving forward.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Good stuff, Senator, we appreciate the time. Good luck on
the pick a ball court. Tell Bernie that that will
challenge him at some point.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
I will never play Mertray Marino in pickaball ever again. Ever,
it was the most humbling thing I've ever had done
to me in my life.
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Sounds like a trendy new workout, buck, but it's actually
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Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
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Well, that's an understatement.
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Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
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Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
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Speaker 11 (48:07):
Have you on, sir, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Let's talk what's the most interesting stuff you're seeing right now?
I mean I've seen some of the numbers for example.
I mean I was going to just lay it out
to you, but actually I want to know about this.
This switch from Democrat to Republican for men. I think
the number that I saw was under forty basically, or
maybe it's under forty five over the last two years
is stunning stuff. Are those numbers real to you? Is
(48:33):
the data good on that? And what's going on?
Speaker 11 (48:36):
So this comes out of Pew Research. Pew Research reported
that a party identification for men under the age of
thirty had a forty four point swing towards Republicans, from
Republicans having thirty six percent to fifty two percent, and
among women under thirty there was a fourteen point swing
from women having thirty to thirty seven. Obviously, Democrats lost
(48:58):
seven in that mixus where get the fourteen from? Now?
Is the numbers real? They're not based off of party
registration numbers, right, So they didn't go to every state
that registers people by party, and most states don't register
people by party, just register to vote. But they went
through the overall How do you think of yourself overall?
Do you lean Republican? Any new lean Democrat? Interesting?
Speaker 8 (49:18):
Enought?
Speaker 11 (49:18):
There's a man named David Shore, a very very smart
progressive data scientists. David Shore said that in the twenty
twenty four election, not only did Donald Trump win young
white men and young white women under the age of twenty,
he won young non white men under the age of
twenty and young white men under the age of twenty
were the most Republican group of voters in the country.
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Trump went out seventy five percent of their support. So
do I think that it's true? Probably? I mean, there's
a lot of data to back that up that young
young men, especially but young white men especially are kind
of pedal to the medal for the Republican Party. Now
does that mean that they love Trump and everything he's done. No,
Trump's favorable number among young people is down. It's not
(50:03):
in any situation where it's down like sixty seventy points,
but it has gone down. Remember, when someone's in office,
numbers likely go down because you have to make good
in all your campaign promises. And Americans are a very
sickle bunch. We want things, we want things immediately.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
I would say this because I've got three young boys seventeen, fourteen,
and ten in my household, and I'm around their teams
that they're on and everything else. Ryan, what I see
is most seventeen year old, sixteen fourteen year olds that
they don't have advanced opinions on what tax policy should
be or how tariffs should be implemented. But what they
(50:40):
do see is a scolding, sort of school mom like
quality of the Democrat Party constantly wagging their finger at
young men. And I think this Sydney Sweeney American Eagle
ad is representative of that. How much of this do
you think is a cultural sort of counter revolution to
(51:00):
the woke agenda? That so many of these kids have
been raised in because that's what I see as primarily
motivating this response.
Speaker 11 (51:08):
Well, there's two things that are primarily motivating this response,
and I spoken to a number of data analysts about this.
Data scientists. One was COVID. Right, kids, you grew up
with COVID losing graduation? It really was. I mean, I
don't want to sound over over extended when I say this,
but it is true. It was kind of like world
growing up during World War Two, or growing up during
the War on Terror, or growing up during Vietnam. It
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is a defining thing for your generation that will impact
your politics probably for Well.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Let me cut you off for a moment there, because
I do think a lot of people have missed this.
If you didn't get to go to prom, or you
didn't get to play your high school football season, and
a lot of these kids they're sixteen and suddenly they
don't go back to school again until they're eighteen. That's
such a formative, transformative era. I don't think that you're
over analyzing that. In fact, I think it's been under discussed.
(51:59):
I just want to kind of emphasize that aspect here
because I think it hasn't been talked about enough about
culturally right.
Speaker 11 (52:06):
And the other big thing that no one else has
talked about that a number of people brought ups me
is that older gen Zers right their parents are still
most are still like half baby boomers, which are now
becoming one of the more progressive. Younger baby boomers are
far more progressive than older baby boomers are. Most younger
gen Zers are almost all younger gen Zers parents are
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gen xers, and they are the most republican demographic in
the country today. So the who is these gen Zers
parents also plays a significant part in why their politics
have shifted. Their politics are more right wing for these kids,
in part because the parents have changed and the parents
are more right wing than the parents that came before.
(52:49):
That plays a significant role in why these kids are
more younger. I mean, listen, if you grew up and
you were a baby boomer, and you were a younger
baby boomer, like let's say you're sixty now, and your
politics revolved around, I don't know, not protesting the Vianamore.
You might have been too young for that, but you
remember it certainly. Versus if you are a younger baby,
(53:10):
if you're a gen Xer and you grew up watching
you know, Jay and silent Bob strikes back, and you thought,
you know, you were non conformists, and you had Johnny
Depp posted in your bedroom versus like David Cassidy. That's
an entirely different cultural reference point. And a lot of
Gen Xers are more countercultural in that respect, and they
(53:30):
do had a nonconformity and they don't like authoritarianism like
the way we saw during COVID.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Speaking of Ryan Gerdusky, it's a numbers game, as this
podcast on the Clay Endbuck Network, So go it's a
great time to listen to it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Go check it out. You'll be really up to speed.
Speaker 8 (53:47):
Ran.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
What else is really top of your radar for the
data out there to tell us about how things are
trending right now for Trump, the Republicans, the country at large.
Speaker 11 (53:56):
Right So there's a new pull out that I find
very very interesting. It's by a Democratic firm, so I'm
going to take it with a big grain of salt.
But it is a question I have thought about over
and over, and that is Latinos who voted for Joe
Biden in twenty twenty and then Donald Trump and then
twenty twenty four. This is the group that will affect
a number of congressional districts. This is the group that
(54:17):
we are redistricting Texas around. Right. So the poll, which
once again is a Democratic polster, and they weren't particularly
amazing in during twenty twenty four, but they were like,
way way off, So it's called equis research. They said
that only eight percent of Latinos who voted for Donald
Trump in twenty twenty four plan on voting for the
Democrat in twenty twenty six. That is not a major
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defection at all. Specifically among Biden Trump voters. These are
what they call the Biden defectors. A thirty percent say
they are planning on voting for the Democrat. That is
ten points down from three months ago. That said that
when he said forty percent would vote for the Democrat.
So of those group of people who are new to
the Republican Party, who have a law lifelong history of
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voting for Democrats, two out of three are not returning
home for the Democratic Party. You know, you may say
thirty percent is a huge chunk, but in long trajectories
of a long history of when groups of people switch
party in vacation. You're talking ethnic whites in the sixties,
or Jews or which not, or you know, working class people.
There's always bumps, ups and downs. They switch, they come back,
(55:24):
they go, they come back. But there's a trajectory that
they'll pay attention to. If you look at the Latina vote,
the working class Latino vote, the fact that two thirds
are sitting there and saying no, I'm probably they're undecided
or I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party. That continues
that trajectory going forward. And it says for the Democrats
and say, you're not going to wake up and all
of a sudden being twenty twelve again, these people kind
(55:46):
of have come to stay, and you're going to have
to either figure out a new coalition or change your
policies or your vibes or whatever to bring them back.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Some people think that Kamala Harris has a political future.
People think that Kamala Harris is finished.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
What do you think?
Speaker 11 (56:05):
I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is
probably finished with politics, don't. I don't think anyone in
the Democratic Party that I have spoken to, I know,
I know a few Democratic cans alto take her seriously,
and they didn't. Most did not take her seriously in
twenty twenty when she was vicked as the VP, and
they certainly didn't take her seriously. Now, no matter how
(56:28):
many of bitches are in that she's she had the
perfect campaign. The perfect campaign generally leaves you in the
White House's she's going on, Stephen Colbert, It's a much
different life.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
On the House for next year. The five potential editions
in Texas. There's lots of talk about a variety of
different state moves and everything else. But it seems to me,
and you correct me if I'm wrong, that everybody trying
to claim, oh, only one side jerry manders is completely wrong. Basically,
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red states are going to do whatever makes sense for
red states by and large. Blue states are going to
do whatever makes sense for Blue states by and large.
If you assess the overall map, is one party more
or less guilty of jerrymandering than the other, And how
much movement do you think might happen before next year
when I think most people agree the House is likely
(57:22):
to come down to five or six seats. It's going
to be a fine line between who controls it.
Speaker 11 (57:27):
Well, there is one party that overly jerry manners, and
that's Democrats. Remember, the Democrats don't have control of many
different states as reproportionment, right, they have control. In twenty twenty,
they had control essentially of seven states Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts,
and Rhode Island. Those are the only seven states they
had full control of. In all seven states, there are
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a total of six elected Republicans out of dozens of
congressional seats. They jerrymanner them to the Republicans, the absolute
corners where they couldn't base the get rid of all
of them, but every chance that they had to get
rid of them. Oregon should have easily two Republicans, Nevada
two Republicans, New Mexico won, Maryland two, Illinois should have
five or six, Massachusetts should have won. They all have none. Now,
(58:13):
if you look at the Republican districts Texas, everyone's sung Texas. Texas.
You know, so jerrymandered. Texas is less jerrymandered than Illinois,
than Maryland, than New Jersey, than California, than Oregon, then
New Mexico, then all of these states. Right, they are
super super gerrymandered, and where they could knock Republicans off,
they did. The problem is Democrats have sat there and
(58:36):
changed to commission based redistricting, which has to at least
look semi fair, even when it's not in the case
of California and New Jersey and Washington. So Governor Gavin
Newsom pouting his chest, thing, I'm going to fight, you know,
I'm gonna fight abb and I'm going to change these
my lines and I'm going to give Democrats six new
seats is impossible. Sure, so is like a flying pig.
(58:58):
It's not really ever going to happen because it would
take so many hurdles. They have to do a conscial convention.
If the past two thirds majority have to go to
a vote for the people, millions of dollars in several
years would have to be spent order for Gaven Neuwsen
to get that. Same thing with New York, same thing
with New Jersey is people pouting their chests and pretending
like Democrats have been working, you know, in such a
(59:19):
sanctimonious way to give fair representation. Are lying to themselves,
and most of them are lying to the voters about
how they're going to fight back. It's basically to sit
there and say, you know, I'm going to be the
candidate to take on Trump when they run for president
in four years.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Who is the leader of the Democrat Party right now
as far as you can see, Ryan, Because Kamala was
asked last night on Colbert and didn't even She didn't
do what I would expect a Democrat to do, which
is say, oh, we have so many people and rattle
off the first four or five names that come to mind.
She said nothing, What are you say?
Speaker 11 (59:53):
Well, isn't that typic of Kamala Harris to say nothing?
I would sit there and say it's probably Bernie Sanders
as of right.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
I think Bernie Sanders. Wow, I thought you were gonna
say newsome Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 11 (01:00:03):
No, No, it's not even close. Bernie has the highest
airbility rating of any elected Democrat. Second is AOC. The
progressive wing is on the rise, and there's just no
there's no derailing it at this point. And you know
we are we They're gonna switch the chairs in the
deck on the Titanic, the Dextros Undertannic to try to
get more moderates to be elected. They'll move the primaries
(01:00:25):
of South Carolina, but do everything they can. But we
are just, you know, maybe an election cycle maybe two
away from the Democrats going full Mandannie nationwide, and that
you know, we're just going to be in a new
progressive phase where they go far left on a number
of issues.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Let me let me make the case, and I want
to get your reaction quickly here if I'm advising Kamala, right,
I'm not saying that I agree with all of this,
all right, just to be fair, but I look at
guys who and gals who were likely to run, Gavin Newsome,
Gretchen Whitmer, Joshua Pierre, Andy Basheer, JB. Pritzker, and all
(01:01:05):
of these so called mayor Pete. Many of them are
basically white people, right, that are attempting to persuade college
educated white voters that they're the right choice. Like Mayor
Pete for instance, has zero percent support among black people. Meanwhile,
you know, if you're a if you're a college educated
(01:01:25):
woman out there, you love him, right, he is your
favorite gay friend and so and so. If you look
on the minority side, right, Corey Booker is a joke, right.
I mean, every time a guy opens his mouth. He
looks like crazy eyes from the curb your enthusiasm. I mean,
he just looks like an insane person. I think he
has no larger political future. Wes Moore is uncertain AOC.
(01:01:50):
My point is, if you're looking at the minority black
side of the Democrat Party, if I'm advising Kamala Harris,
Stacey Abrams is done, Karen bass is done. There's almost
no one else in that lane, and she doesn't have
to be hugely popular. She just has to get that
twenty five percent. Am I crazy? Or who is going
to contend with her for that lane if she were
(01:02:12):
to run.
Speaker 11 (01:02:13):
Well, the one thing I would say, I understand your presumption,
but I just want to put one little context in
here is that the black vote, especially in the South,
doesn't always vote for the black candidate. They vote for
the candidate I think can win. They are much more
modern and pragmatic than I think you're giving them credit for.
So I would sit there and say, if you're Kamala Harrison,
you want to have a footprint in politics, realizing that
(01:02:36):
your weaknesses as a candidate, I would go and do
what Richard Nixon did Former Seuer pak campaign for the
next Democrat be a kingmaker and then if they don't win,
come under your white horse and give it eight years
in the wildness. She can afford that time if she
wants to do that. I don't think she even can.
But I don't think the presumption is that the black
vote is going to only vote for a black candidate.
(01:02:57):
I think that they're going to they'll be okay with
a black candidate being on the tip, But I don't
think that they need a black candidate because in a
long history from Clinton, I always remember Clinton ran against
Jesse Jackson, I mean, and Obama was the only one
today sat there, so we have to have it. So
I think that they're more pragmatic than that and more
modern good stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Ryan Gerdusky you can find him in the Clay and
Buck podcast network. We appreciate the time, man.
Speaker 11 (01:03:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It is a summer Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I hope you're all in a good mood because it's
a great time in America, my friends, a great time
for this country, and I want you to enjoy it.
August first today. Can't believe how quickly the time is
going by. And we have a lot of news to
talk to you about. So we're going to send you
off for the weekend with everything you need to know,
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everything that's going on, Clay, because I am a team player,
a dedicated co host, and somebody who's willing to take
one for the team, somebody who's willing to take those
slings and arrows. I didn't just watch the Kamala Harris
(00:48):
televised Colbert interview. Oh no, sir, I watched the entire
extended online version of the interview, which.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I appreciate you taking the bullet I have not watched it.
I mean I saw the clips all circulating. This is
the first interview. For those of you out there who say,
why would you pay attention, This is the first interview
she's done since basically she lost the election. She vanished
for what are we sitting on now, like seven or
eight months and now suddenly is showing back up and
she chooses, of course Colbert as her debut.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is such a reminder now, Clay you, I want to
be clear here, Clave was not saying, and we have
a steak on this one, and I'm I'm still trying
to get back the world's most expensive steak that I
had to buy for Clay, right, so there's got to
be payback here.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It was very good and.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
There was a whole light show that went along with it,
so we had some fun here in Miami Beach. I
hear about this place, Bourbon Steak in Nashville, which has
incredible views and is very change.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
To be fair, it's a chain and I'm gonna make
enemies today. But if you were visiting Nashville and you
were asking for where to go steakhouse, because it's all
the way at the top, like forty third story, you
can see the whole city, I would suggest that that's
the best steakhouse to go to. I just now, as
long as it's expensive, as long as you have to
take out that Clay credit card and we do substantial damage,
(02:13):
that's what I'm really looking for because I'm still smarting
over the Miami Beach steak. But to be clear, Clay's
thinking in a few years. And we're not going to
get too into the back and forth on this today,
but we did that yesterday that Kamala is at least
going to run. Yes, that's not a crazy I think
that that's not going to happen, but that's obviously our bet.
I think we both agree if she runs, that's amazing
(02:34):
for Republican or rather, if she were the nominee and one,
that would be amazing for Republicans, which means I think
we both see this as this is one of the
worst politicians to have been at this level a vice
president stepping in to run as the nominee that we
have ever seen. I just wanted to share with some
of you so Clay and I could could have it
do a little joy riding here through the Colbert interview. Clay,
(02:58):
you haven't even heard all of these yet, because some
of them are from the I wanted to react to them.
In all honesty, I knew this was going to happen.
I knew we would lead with it, and I want
to react as if a lot of you out there
are two. I have not heard one. I've seen the
clips circulating, but I purposely did not watch any of
them because I knew we'd be reacting to them.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I just want to point this, Why did I start
off today talking about it's a good time for the
country in it is? I saw the jobs numbers not great.
I understand it's one month, no big deal. Economy overall
doing really well, and we'll get into some of those
specifics here at a moment, but I think it's important
to remind you all that this person that we're about
to play the clips from could have been the President
(03:40):
of the United States, Okay, that we could be sitting
here talking about President Kamala six months into her administration,
with a stalled out economy, a wide open border, rising
crime instead of the drops in crime that we're seeing
actually nationwide.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Now, never mind.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
All the the executive orders that that a Harris administration,
the staffers who actually run it would have not It
would have been a nightmare. And I just think when
you start to listen clay to some of these Kamala clips,
I mean, first of all, we have her saying that
she's decided not to run for governor because the system
(04:20):
is broken.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Clay play cut this has cut five play.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Five announcement that you're not running for the governor of California. Correct,
even though in early polling you beat every other Candida
by double digits.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
You said you're gonna set this one out.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Why are you sitt this?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Are you sitting yourself for a different office?
Speaker 6 (04:40):
That might be.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
That's what everybody was obviously, but obviously people will project onto.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And honestly that it's it's more fats basic than that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I am.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Listen, I am a devout public servant. I have spent
my entire career in service of the people, and I
thought a lot about running for governor.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I love my state. I love California.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
I've served as just elected district attorney, Attorney General, and senator.
But to be very candid with you, I you know,
when I was a young young in my career, I
had to defend my decision to become a prosecutor with
my family.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
And one of the points that I made is why is.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It then, when we think we want to improve a
system or change it, that we're always on the outside
on Ben Didnee or trying to break down the door.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Shouldn't we also be inside the system?
Speaker 6 (05:40):
And that has been my career, and recently I made
the decision that I just for now, I don't want
to go back in the system.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I think it's broken, broken because she didn't win Clay,
That's why it's broken.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I hate this. I hate this. She's been in the
system for her entire life. You and I and every
taxpayer out there has funded Kamala Harris's entire life. Has
she ever had a private sector job that means taxpayer
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dollars are not funding her existence? I don't think so.
Maybe when she claims to have worked at McDonald's as
a teenager, but as an adult she has worked inside
of the state apparatus at California and then inside of
the federal government apparatus as a senator and as a
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Vice president. You don't get to work inside of a
system for thirty years, thirty five years, whatever the heck
the math is, and then suddenly step outside of it
for six months and say, hey, I don't want to
go back into it because it's broken. I think, and
I said this yesterday, and I am going to die
on this hill. I think her advisor said it's actually
(06:59):
a backward step for you to be governor because you've
already been a senator, you've already been a vice president.
You don't need to prove anything by being governor. And
so just take a little bit of time, Just take
a little bit of time off, and then you can
decide to run next year, a little bit after next year,
early twenty seven to be president.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, and if she lost, I think you and I
agree on this point, if she lost the California governor's race,
since she really is toast her career, she really is toast.
I still think that really what I'm seeing here with
this Colbert appearance. And by the way, this goes to
for anyone who's gonna say, and we're gonna get the
emails that momentarily, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Why are you talking with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Who's the leader of the Democrat Party?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Who is the leader right now? This matters? And in fact,
she was asked on the Colbert Show who the leader
of the Democrat parties? This has cut eight and you
got a very Kamala answer on this one.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Listen, who's leaving the Democratic Party?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Lots of lead and it was generally all.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Leader of the Democratic Party, you know, like, oh, that's
the leader Donator party.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Who comes to mind.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
I think there are a lot of I'm not going
to go through names because then I'm gonna leave somebody
out and then I'm going to hear about it. But
let me just let me say this. I think it
is a mistake for us who want to figure out
how to get out and through this and get out
of it, to put it on the shoulders of any
(08:29):
one person.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
It's really on all of our shoulders.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It really is everything that she says.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Clay sounds like the HR person at the soulless company,
lecturing you as you're forced to have like an all
hands for HR purposes. It's all she speaks to everyone
like we're all morons and no one can escape the boring,
inane things that she.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Has to say.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
She is the EI personified. I do think that leave
aside her individuality, she is THEI personified. She looks like
what Californians think their leader should look like. That is,
you know, she's mixed or ace Asian mixtuor ace black
woman attractive, and she is that sort of portrait on
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the wall of what California wants to see when they
see a leader, the problem is she really is an
empty suit. And that's I think largely what many people
out there have an issue with DEI best man or
best woman. Right, Let's apply the meritocracy. It doesn't matter
what your background is, doesn't matter who your daddy or
(09:44):
and your mommy were. This is why I think the
sports analogy applies. Nobody gets to start with a different
score on the scoreboard, right, And I think that that
is why I'm making this argument in my new book.
And I'm curious if you could think of something. Is
there any thing in sports, anything in the world of
American life right now, that's more trusted than the scoreboard
(10:07):
where people just and if something's a little bit off, right,
if somebody forgets to put a run up, or if
the clock's a little bit off, everybody's pointing at it.
It's a common foundational thing that everybody looks at it
and says, I trust that to reflect reality.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I would like to share some sports analysis here, Yes,
that would build on what you were saying, And that
is the desire to always get it right is reflected
in some of the recent rule changes. I mean to
me the fact that I can't remember now I should
know this, but it's either Wimbledon or the French Open.
In tennis doesn't yet have all of the like for serves,
(10:46):
it's still by the eye of the by the site
of the umps. There's actually technology now that can one
hundred percent get the lasers basically there.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And they're like this did or did not go in
They used to work and roll on Garo's back in
the day. They would look at the clay marks.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Remember that that judge would get up and look, yeah,
and you're right, but I see this now. Also in basketball,
you should drive me insane as someone who used to
watch the NBA.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
People want it to.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Be what it should be because they want the better
team to win every time. They want the truth to
apply facts to matter. Everyone does, and.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You see it. It is true.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You see this with sports where there is a true
sense of outrage that people. I mean, I'm still outraged
about when the Los Angeles came. I mean when the
Sacramento Kings had the LA Lakers steal a series from
them and the Kings would have won that I think
this is like twenty years ago now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, was one of the most famous. It's one of
the most famous Lakers, Lakers, Kings, Volati, Divac, Bibby, all
those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Back in the day. That series just kind of fell apart,
And I think we want to get back to feeling
in pollend. This goes to election integrity. This goes to
the honesty of the transparency. We're seeing the whole range
of things, Russia, collusion everything. We want to know what
the real scoreboard is in politics too, and what's going
on here and Kamala Harris coming out to give everybody
(12:12):
a lecture on how the system is broken after she
was the vice president for eight years. Why isn't she
telling us about how she fixed the system or fixes
she made to the system. No, it's all about bitterness,
which also goes to Colbert sitting there talk about bitter.
The whole thing was just so sad. It was two losers,
Colbert and Kamala, who were given far more than they deserve,
(12:34):
having a little cry session together because Trump is president.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, and I do think the symbolism of Kamala picking
Colbert as her first Back to the Grind interview to
the extended to Grind in any way, Colbert, if I
were sitting in Colbert's chair. I think the math came out.
They did the deep dive. He had one hundred and
twenty Democrat guests, and I believe it was zero Republican
(13:00):
guest sitting in that chair. If you are on CBS
like that, I don't begrudge Colbert getting Kamala, but he
should be begging for Trump to come on too, right.
If that, I don't think a true.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Arbiter trying to appeal to everybody. We actually, we don't
have time for it now. Maybe if we want to play,
we come back. I don't think this again, I only
watched the extended, but I don't think this part of
it aired. You should hear what what what Colbert calls
the sitting president of the United States on his show
that is supposedly for all Americans to watch. I mean,
you should hear what he said about President Trump, so
(13:34):
we can play that for you. What he calls Trump
on this show, and how richly he deserves the cancelation
and the humiliation professionally that he has received. But Kamala
Harris is the most cringe inducing politician to have been
at her level, meaning the vice president that I can
remember and it's it's just it's funny to see that
(13:55):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through
the Friday edition of the program, taking you into what
we hope is going to be a fabulous weekend. We've
got a couple of different guests coming to you this hour.
We're gonna head to the Senate Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno
about to be with us, and then Mark Wayne Mullen
(15:52):
from Oklahoma going to be with us. At the bottom
of the hour, we'll get into a variety of different
topics with them, and Senator Marino is with us. Now,
let's go ahead and bring him up. One of the
reasons that Republicans have a fifty three to forty seven
majority in the Senate is he flipped Ohio's Senate seat.
And we're going to get into a bunch of stuff
with you. Senator. Congratulations again on the big win back
(16:15):
in November. But you have been aggressively following a story
that when megaviral an attack on what appears to be
innocent people in the streets of Cincinnati, that has been
a it feels like clarion call for many people all
over the country to acknowledge crimes of violence taking place
in many of our cities and how they've been allowed
(16:38):
to happen. So let's start here for people who do
not know this story, kind of tell us a little
bit about it and what has happened to what appeared
to be a man and a woman who were victims
of violent mob beatings in the Cincinnati area, what the
response has been, and where we are, And thank you
for joining us in congrats again on your election win
(17:00):
in November.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Well, thank you very much. Let me just start saying
that Cincinnati is a great American city, amazing people, they're
amazing companies. Is a storied city with amazing assets, but
with obscenely awful political leaders. So let me tell you
the story from the perspective of Holly. Holly's a middle
aged woman. She's a single mom of a special needs child,
(17:24):
lives not too far from downtown Cincinnati. She wanted to
have a night out. She hadn't had a night out
in a long time. You know, for those people who
have special needs children, they know what this is like.
It's a all consuming mission of love. So she decided
she was going to go celebrate a friend of her
with a friend of hers his sixty second birthday. She's
(17:46):
a little bit younger than that, but not much. They
went to downtown Cincinnati. They went to a nice club.
There's a jazz fest going on, so they participated in
those activities and went out to a place. As they
were walking out the door, a gentleman knocked him in
the head and you saw a brawl that ensued. Now
I say brawl, probably a mob of fifty people attacked
(18:07):
this gentleman, knocked them unconscious three times on the ground,
dragged him by the foot into the middle of the street. Hawley,
of course, like any woman watching that, tried to stop
the fight and a complete thug beat her to the
edge of her life, knocked her down on the ground.
Her head fell on the ground, she got knocked unconscious.
(18:29):
When she woke up, as she told me the story,
all she could think about is just how much blood
she saw me, just completely drenched with blood all over her. Finally,
towards the end, one police officer came over. The mob scattered.
The police didn't do much of a report, you know,
(18:49):
the Society police unfortunately completely overwhelmed. They're down anywhere between
one hundred and three hundred officers. She went home in
an uber, then got an ambulance that didn't go to
the hospital, no police report. Literally got on her phone,
called in uber and went home. Of course, when she
got home, realized that the severity of her injuries, went to
the hospital and has had suffering from breathing problems, from
(19:13):
cognitive issues. Again, this is a lady who's literally this
is attempted murder. There's really no other way to say
that she was knocked within an inch of her life.
And here's what's most distressing about this. You and I
understand tolls online and people online say all kinds of
stupid things, but I'm going to talk to you about
the leadership of the community, the political leadership. The congressman
(19:33):
for that area, Greg Landsman, didn't make any comments about this.
Instead was tweeting about why we should send more money
to Ukraine. Now, however you may feel about Ukraine, when
your citizens are viciously attacked like that, I think that
takes priority, at least I think it should. The mayor
had gone to a Mayor's Misfit a conference of misfit
mayors up in Cleveland, and then went to Canada on vacation.
(19:56):
Didn't come back until yesterday. This thing happened last Friday night.
The vice mayor make a statement till yesterday, and basically
her statement was leave us alone, we don't have any
help or get here. The chief of police blamed social
media instead of acknowledging that they're down one hundred and
three hundred officers and said that the whole story wasn't
exactly told. I'm not sure what other story you want
(20:16):
to know, other than you had a middleaged woman that
got the crap keep out of her. Then a city
council member, Victoria Parks, remember that name, Victoria Parks. She
went on social media and said they deserved the beating
they got. You heard that right, that this middleaged woman
who did nothing other than try to stop a mob
(20:36):
from killing her friend and got the life almost taken
away from her, got the beating she deserved. The judge
Mallory had set the guy who beat her up. He
had been in front of that judge a few a
few weeks earlier for all kinds of gun charges, led
them off on a four hundred dollars bail. This is
(21:00):
to bottom system failure in the Cincinnati political leadership. I've
told them they have thirty days to put together a
plan to protect the civil rights of their citizens, staff
the police properly, and come up with a safety plan
for their citizens. And if they don't do that in
the next thirty days, the only tool I have is
(21:21):
to ask the pussy the United States to suspend federal
funding to that city until they do. Now, of course,
the citizens have to do the long term work, which
is to get rid of these morons and replace the
top to bottom.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
That's an incredible story, and I want to make sure
our team clips it because I think you illustrated it
all so very well. We're talking to Senator Bernie Marino,
who is discussing what happened in Cincinnati. Holly, you shared
her photos. I want everybody to see them, and so
I have retweeted it. Let's make sure that the Clay
(21:55):
and Bucks social feed. They're brutal to look at. But
to your point, the fact that a police officer let
her get into an uber and after what happened to
her is staggering to me. I am somewhat encouraged. Jd
Vance has spoken out about this. I believe he lives
in Cincinnati. The veak Ramaswami aggressively has spoken out about this.
(22:18):
I know he's running for governor. You are speaking out
aggressively about this, and it sounds like a lot of citizens,
including restaurant groups. I saw the local downtown restaurant group,
the Ruby Conglomerate, and I think they have a great steakhouse.
I know they've got one in Nashville. They got him
all over the place. But it sounds like citizens are
(22:40):
using this viral incident as evidence that they're fed up
with what's been allowed to take place in Cincinnati. And
I think this is a sort of a larger, smaller
story of Cincinnati. But I think every city in America
has a story like this, which is why it's caught
so much fire.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
Yeah, you're exactly right. I think this is a moment
where we say not enough. We're not just going to
continue to move out in the suburbs of rural America
to have law and order. We're going to take back
our great American cities. You see the Mandami movement, I
call it on the other side, which is lawlessness, defunding
the police, all kinds of insane communist policies. And I think, honestly,
(23:20):
as conservatives, by the way, as just normal Americans, we
gotta say no, I'm sorry, We're not going to relinquish
our great American cities to these lawless mobs, and we're
gonna take our cities back. And for me, that is
restoring Cincinnati, the greatness, Columbus, Cleveland, Toledo, Dayton, these are
cities that have been completely mismanaged for decades. You know,
(23:40):
my wife is from near Chicago. She used to love
going to Chicago. After watching that video, my wife is
about Holly's age. If that happened to me and my wife,
I can't even imagine what this would be fuel would
it if that was your mom, what would you feel
like if that happened to her? And then I'll give
you one more wrinkle to the story that's happening as
(24:02):
I speak to you right now. The police Department, now
they deny that they did. The New York Posts says
they did. They claimed that Holly is a Russian national
that fled back to her country because of course Russia, Russia, Russia.
Holly was born and raised in Ohio, has no ties,
She's Germanic background, has no as are a lot of
people there have nothing to do with Russia. But you
(24:23):
see how they're trying to disparage her and the mob
angry machine on the Democrats side. These are evil, horrible people.
And I said to the chief of police, I actually
told my team to tell her I have no interest
in talking to her until they correct that record. Because
the New York Times ran a story the headline was
Russian woman attacked. It's not a Russian woman, It's an
(24:45):
American citizen that was brutally attacked, an innocent person. I
was on with another friend of yours earlier and he
wanted to start a goal fund me pages that please
don't do that without Holly's permission. I called Holly just
this morning and she said, I really don't want anybody
doing that for me. This is somebody who just wanted
(25:05):
She's just an normal American wants to live a good life.
And the idea that they even attempt to villify it.
I called Jake Tapper on Sunday. I asked Jake Tapper
to cover the story. He said he'd look into it.
Silence from CNN. Silence.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, of course, by the way, that's a you called
Jake Tapper to cover this story. Let me tell you,
Sanatra Marino uh covering the story, that's a waste of
your phone call.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I've known Tapper.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Is interesting to point out because if you flip the
races here in any way, it would be the number
one story in America. We'd be having a national conversation
about white supremacy and how unsafe it is for black
people to go anywhere in this country. And the fact
that you got a mom of a special needs kid
getting knocked out in the streets of Cincinnati, it does
say something that's CNN and MSNBC just yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean, there's also there's no we all saw the
video the woman getting attacked.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
She's doing.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
She's just trying to stop somebody from being beaten to
death in the street and then punch her in the face.
It's such a vicious and criminal thing to do, felony,
criminal thing to do. Where's Governor de Wine on this,
Center Marino?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
What's up with him?
Speaker 8 (26:10):
So the governor has offered This is even crazier part
of the story. So the governor offered the City of
Cincinnati state highway patrols all kinds of assets, different task
forces that he can bear, that bring to bear for Cincinnati.
No charge. By the way, say, look, the state will
provide this. We won't charge you a cent. The Vice
(26:31):
mayor turned it all down, and then the mayor overrode her,
and they took just a piece of it, which is
just this the troopers doing traffic routine, traffic stops. But
this was the Mayor's like, we don't need any help.
We're good.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So Governor de Wine wants to help, and they don't
want the help like they've got.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
They don't want to help. Great, and what's happened as
a result, two big conventions have been canceled this week
in Cincinnati. One company's leaving downtown. We again, we can't
let this happen. We can't let our cities just just
be taken over by these lunatics. And by the way,
this is about the destruction of America. Let's just be
clear about that. This isn't about just Hally. This is
(27:09):
a pattern of destruction of our country, starting with our
big cities, and we have to take those cities back.
And that's why I'm on this story. That's why we'll
be relentless on this story, because we cannot just turn
the other way and say, well, yeah, New York and
so is Chicago, and oh well no, we're going to
take these cities back. We's what President Trump has done
here in Washington, d C. This is becoming a different
(27:32):
place because President Trump has said, I'm not putting up
with it. This should be a shining city. This is
our nation's capital and it's not going to be disgraced
by moronic leaders.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Bernie, you mentioned the disaster. I thought press conference from
Cincinnati's sheriff for the person who's in charge in theory
of protecting the people of Cincinnati, what in the world
are they even saying when she said, oh, we don't
have the full context of the video. Buck and I
came on and talked about this. I don't know what
context you need to see to know that twenty dudes
(28:04):
trying to beat up one other guy is not in
any way or I mean, this is not self defense,
this is not it no matter what happened. Have they
even tried to contextualize that and say what she was
even attempting to explain? Do we have any idea?
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Well, what she's trying to do is just brush it
all under the carpet, right. She's not explaining why she
didn't get called into an ambulance and taken to a
hospital immediately, why there weren't cops on the scene, And
the answer is because she has to then admit they're
down anywhere between one hundred and ten to three hundred
police officers, And how do you let that happen? How
do you how are you a leader of a police department,
a police chief in a major American city and you
(28:41):
and you're down one hundred and three hundred officers? This
is this is insanity. And then to disparage the victim,
by the way, there's no context you need for Holly.
Holly's a middle aged woman that almost.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Got murdered by a mob totally.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Yeah, right, So there's no context needed, that's it. So look,
the chief is a mess. We need a top to
bottom flushing out of political leaders there people just care
about one. It's very simple. This isn't a complicated thing.
When you get elected, your job is to ensure the
safety and prosperity of your citizens. That's it. That's all
you have to do. And this is the opposite of that.
(29:16):
It's sad because look again, Cincinnati is an amazing, great place.
We have all kinds of incredible assets there with incredible people,
and they just deserve better. And these leaders that just
camemagine the mayors in Canada. In Canada flipped the stript
and was there any context that George Floyd, was there
(29:38):
any conversations about maybe this or maybe that one? In reality,
there needed to be a lot more conversation there, but
said that caused their entire country to have our cities
burned down. And here it's like, well, it doesn't fit
our narrative. Jake Tapper would become a citizen of Cincinnati
if the races were flipped. He'd be broadcasting their live
for tenny years.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Crime in your mind, based on what you've seen. Do
you think race played in? We got to go quickly,
But I'm just curious.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
She thinks it did. You know, I wasn't there, whether
she feels definitely that it did. That they were one
hundred percent targeted. They think it was a setup. That's
why they think so many cameras are there. I don't
know about that. You know, Cash Betel and Attorney General
Pam Bondi and Harvey Dyllon are going to be leading
an investigation there, so they're going to answer those questions.
(30:27):
All I know is a middle aged woman from Ohio
should be able to go to dinner in Cincinnati and
not get beaten to death. Very simple.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Hey man, Sena Marino Sanity, thank you so much. Appreciate
you calling in. We'll talk to you. And anytime you
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bring some ethics to it, you need to come to
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Well, by the way, you have ten times more people
that listen to you, so that you're also true, also true,
welcome any time, Senator, Thank you so much. Thank you guys.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. You just heard us
talking with Senator Bernie Marino about everything going on right
now surrounding that awful situation in Cincinnati. I mentioned that
we would be talking to another senator. He's joining us now,
Mark Wayne Mullen, Senator. Appreciate you joining us. I think
(32:41):
the last time I saw you was pretty awesome. Event
was the NCAA Wrestling Championships. President Trump was there. It
was incredible in Philadelphia, so it was good to meet
you in person. There. There's a huge back bottleneck right
now inside of the Senate, one hundred and fifty different
(33:01):
some odd nominations being held up. What's the latest there
and what should happen in your mind with that bottleneck?
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well, yeah, I wanted to talk about that because I
just want to point out something the Democrats always talk about, diversity.
But I want to talk about the diversity inside the
inside the Republican commerce. I mean, just look at the
difference the way that Bernie and I are built. I mean,
Bernie is built like a tech guy and I'm built
like an athlete. See, there's a big diversity between the two.
(33:29):
I mean, if you know Bernie, I mean he's he's
a car salesman, and you know I was. I was
a plumber. But if you also also know that he
he Bernie could become professional in one sport. By the way,
you're not fighting, obviously, he's probably one of the best
pickleball players I've ever played against.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
What is his strength? On about? You know? By the way,
I played pickleball for the first time ever. My wife
Laura got me out there. We had a good time. Yeah,
what's his what's his strength as a pickleball player?
Speaker 9 (33:58):
He is very size with his hits, and he can
get more spin and lift off the ball that I've
ever seen. He is. He is a technician when it
comes to it, and it drives me freaking. He will
make me run all over court and he won't move
two steps and it makes me so mad. In the matter,
you get it, pick a ball, the worse you get,
(34:18):
and that is not my street.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Of a sports.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
That's really funny.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Sew that up.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
So the bottleneck. So dealing with the bottleneck, we have
a unique situation going on right now, is you know,
and I just want to thowt some numbers out there
to you. In Bush forty one, ninety eight percent of
his civilian nominees, which is ninety nine percent of the
nominees we do, ninety eight percent went by either UC
which is unanimous consent or a voice vote I meaning
(34:47):
that the Senate actually never had to take a vote
on it, and it speeds a process up. In Obama
or Clinton, I'm sorry, ninety eight percent of his nominees
also went through my voice volt or a nineymous Ernie
Bush forty three, ninety percent of his went through. Ninety
percent of Obama's went through. And then when Trump came in,
(35:08):
that's when this first term, that's when the bottleneck happened.
And so this time last year or this time in
twenty seventeen, there was only fifty five nominees that Trump
had got through. Now we have already confirmed one hundred
and twenty one nominees. But this is the first time
in history in history that a president of the United
(35:32):
States has not had one single nominee go by unanimous
consent or voice vote. In fact, the only nominee that
hasn't been philibustered is Marco Rubio and that was our
very first one. Every since then, they had literally philibustered
every single nominee, which is why we had this bottleneck.
(35:55):
But we're still we still have one hundred and twenty
one compared to President Trump's first term for fifty five.
So has done really good at saying we're going to
do this a hard way or the or the easy way.
And that's why this Congress has voted more times than
any Congress in three hundred or the last thirty five years,
because we're having to take it takes four votes per
nominee to get him confirmed. And that's crazy if you
(36:18):
think about that, because we have to vote to go
in and out of session, meaning we got to go
from legislation session to executive session. We got to vote
to in vote culture, we got to vote to end culture,
and then we got to vote on the nominee. So
it is it's a it's a it's a long process,
and underneath the current process, it's it's impossible to do
(36:41):
if you do it all in one day, if you
take every one of those votes every every day it's
in it's almost impossible to do more than to a day.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
So what should happen now, Sender? What what do you
want to see to break the log jam? We've had
a few of your colleagues on talking about this. I've
been very frustrated by this. I've seen Democrats once again,
and of course they're in the break the glass era
of anything goes to stop Donald Trump in whatever way
they can, as petty as it has to be.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
They don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
They're stopping US attorneys from getting through, they're stoping judges
from getting through. All good faith out the window.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
So what do we do? What do you want to
see your Republican colleagues do?
Speaker 9 (37:19):
It only leads us with really one choice. If they
won't allow the log in to be broken, start allowing
bipartisan nominees, at least those that are come out of
committee in a bipartisan vote. We have fifty five of
those setting right now. If they would at least allow
those fifty five to come through in a voice vote
(37:39):
or a UC unanscent then if they won't allow us
at least do that, then we don't have a choice
about to change the rules. That's kind of the nuclear
option because it goes two ways, right, if you do
the nuclear option and then the newth option will always
stay in place. Harry Reid kind of did this, and
then Chuck Schumer really did this in twenty seventeen, which
Mitch McConnell irony of that. Mister connell actually warned about
(38:02):
where we're going to be if that happens, and sure enough,
it's exactly what he said in twenty seventeen is where
we're at. And that's when if they ended the debate
on every nominee being thirty hours to two hours, and
what you're probably going to see is that we're going
to have to take that option even further to where
instead of having four votes, we're going to go in
and out of executive session, will do a day where
(38:24):
you just you stay in executive session all day and
you limit to eight to maybe fifteen minutes, or you
limit debate to ten minutes, or you'd or you limit
or you or that you make the nominees where they're
non debatable. Even at that with the way the rules
are in the Senate, you could get down about two
an hour if you were to do if you could
(38:45):
get that passed. The problem we have in the Senate
is we have some old guards that wanted to want
to protect the quorm, what they call it, the way
the Senate's always operated, and they don't want to change it,
and so we have some people that are very protective
of the rules and to get fifty one votes on there,
(39:06):
I believe we can do that. I wouldn't be surprised
if Jade Vance would have to come up here, a
vice President would have to come up here and break
the tie, because I think we'd probably lose some and
he would have to come up and break it. However,
that's probably going to be our option, and that's actually
what we're currently talking about as you and I speak.
(39:28):
I stepped out of a conference that we're having, and
this has been a very structured and passionate meeting that
I stepped out of to discuss what our next options are.
And I believe the Democrats are going to force this,
so it wouldn't be us changing the rules. They have
got away from decorum the senators and on the Senate
side from the Democrats. On the Democrat side, I mean,
(39:50):
underneath the leadership of Chuck Schumer, they have got away
from the corm of the Senate, which is going to
force the.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Rules to change.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
We were just talking about earlier in the show, the craziness.
You were talking about the difference in the Republican caucus
in the Senate. You got Eric Swalwell posting videos of
him bench pressing one hundred and thirty five pounds, which
is good, you know, maybe good for my ninth grade
son who's trying out for his football team.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh Man rough days.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
Video.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, so you understand, like, yeah, hey, if you're a
one plate on the bench guy like that doesn't really
motivate a lot of guys to think, hey, this is
a big this is a dude that I can look
up to. But you also have you know, this Sidney
Sweeney thing has taken over all week where you got
a pretty girl doing a Jeens commercial and uh, and
Democrats have decided basically that that's just a code word
(40:45):
for Nazism. Big picture here, did you ever think that
Democrats would go this insane? And what Buck and I
were talking about is privately, are there guys on the
Senate floor who are Democrats and they just will say
to you privately like this whole men and women's sports
is just absolutely insane. I mean, they still have to
have some dudes right even on the Democrat side, who
(41:07):
privately will point out that this is just absolute insanity.
Or are they like that in private too. I'm not
asking you to out guys who say it necessarily, but
I'm just kind of curious and normal guy conversations. Do
Democrats acknowledge how ridiculous all this is?
Speaker 9 (41:23):
And they this is this is quote what they say,
we have lost lost her f in mind. I didn't
say a word and said they they say that, And yes,
there is several of the guys and some of the ladies.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh did they just He's given us?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Oh wait, there we go. So you got cut off
there for a sec. You said, there's several guys and
some of the women that will say privately this is crazy.
Speaker 9 (41:51):
Yeah, Well that actually say we've lost her ever loving
mind or their mind. Yeah, And and they they absolutely have.
But this that they can move, And the reason why
they can't move is because they would lose their primary
election because their party has went so far that they
can yes, win a primary, but they're gonna have a
hard time winning the general. That's why you see these
(42:12):
polls's that there's a thirty point swing between favorable and
unfearable is because this base, their base has become so woke,
so socialists, so anti everything that makes common sense that
they can't move off of it. But that's the base
they built. And it started honestly during the twenty fifteen
(42:33):
twenty sixteen election, and they and then and then they
just fed into it for four years underneath President the
Trump's first term, and and and they they wanted they
I mean a debatable if they want an election. I
actually don't say that, but I'm just saying they put
Biden office one way the next, and and at the
and then at the During that four years, it destroyed
(42:53):
our economy, destroyed the morale and and the and the
service industry. It destroyed the morale and and uh within
our men and women in uniform. It destroyed the morale
of our uh you know, of just common sense and
in any day walk of life. We saw what happened
in schools, We saw what happened during the school boards.
(43:13):
I mean, it just got crazy, and American people woke
up and said, we're not doing that anymore than they
put President Trump back in office. They can't get away
from that base tho. But privately they know it's destroying
their party. I think if they had their choice, they
would love to go back and to the JFK Democrats.
But you see what happened to Chuck Schumer. Let's just
(43:34):
look at what happened to Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer voted
with us to do a continued resolution to keep the
to keep the government open. He got destroyed at home.
I mean, here's a guy that's never had a tough
reelection and he got destroyed at home, and now AOC
is threatened to run against him. His behavior changed so
(43:54):
much because now he can't allow AOC to be to
his left that now he has behave just like that,
which is causing them to not be reasonable on anything
we're doing moving forward.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Good stuff, Senator, we appreciate the time. Good luck on
the pick a ball court. Tell Bernie that that will
challenge him at some point.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
I will never play Mertray Marino in pickaball ever again. Ever,
it was the most humbling thing I've ever had done
to me in my life.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Tell your wife congrats by the way, I'm being able
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Podcast Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, buck, but it's actually
a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name
is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and
South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, that's an understatement.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Can he give us some inside intel.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Stat already did, and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.
Speaker 10 (46:54):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations making real progress towards reshaping global trade, and
the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That shift
doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.
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and Buck kicks off now. Our friend Ryan Gourdusky is
back in the mix with us. He is a star
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a Numbers Game for those of you who just want
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(47:58):
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friends who think they know about politics. Listen to It's
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Speaker 2 (48:06):
Mister Ryan, good to.
Speaker 11 (48:07):
Have you on, sir, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Let's talk what's the most interesting stuff you're seeing right now?
I mean I've seen some of the numbers for example.
I mean I was going to just lay it out
to you, but actually I want to know about this.
This switch from Democrat to Republican for men. I think
the number that I saw was under forty basically, or
maybe it's under forty five over the last two years
is stunning stuff. Are those numbers real to you? Is
(48:33):
the data good on that? And what's going on?
Speaker 11 (48:36):
So this comes out of Pew Research. Pew Research reported
that a party identification for men under the age of
thirty had a forty four point swing towards Republicans, from
Republicans having thirty six percent to fifty two percent, and
among women under thirty there was a fourteen point swing
from women having thirty to thirty seven. Obviously, Democrats lost
(48:58):
seven in that mixus where get the fourteen from? Now?
Is the numbers real? They're not based off of party
registration numbers, right, So they didn't go to every state
that registers people by party, and most states don't register
people by party, just register to vote. But they went
through the overall How do you think of yourself overall?
Do you lean Republican? Any new lean Democrat? Interesting?
Speaker 8 (49:18):
Enought?
Speaker 11 (49:18):
There's a man named David Shore, a very very smart
progressive data scientists. David Shore said that in the twenty
twenty four election, not only did Donald Trump win young
white men and young white women under the age of twenty,
he won young non white men under the age of
twenty and young white men under the age of twenty
were the most Republican group of voters in the country.
(49:40):
Trump went out seventy five percent of their support. So
do I think that it's true? Probably? I mean, there's
a lot of data to back that up that young
young men, especially but young white men especially are kind
of pedal to the medal for the Republican Party. Now
does that mean that they love Trump and everything he's done. No,
Trump's favorable number among young people is down. It's not
(50:03):
in any situation where it's down like sixty seventy points,
but it has gone down. Remember, when someone's in office,
numbers likely go down because you have to make good
in all your campaign promises. And Americans are a very
sickle bunch. We want things, we want things immediately.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
I would say this because I've got three young boys seventeen, fourteen,
and ten in my household, and I'm around their teams
that they're on and everything else. Ryan, what I see
is most seventeen year old, sixteen fourteen year olds that
they don't have advanced opinions on what tax policy should
be or how tariffs should be implemented. But what they
(50:40):
do see is a scolding, sort of school mom like
quality of the Democrat Party constantly wagging their finger at
young men. And I think this Sydney Sweeney American Eagle
ad is representative of that. How much of this do
you think is a cultural sort of counter revolution to
(51:00):
the woke agenda? That so many of these kids have
been raised in because that's what I see as primarily
motivating this response.
Speaker 11 (51:08):
Well, there's two things that are primarily motivating this response,
and I spoken to a number of data analysts about this.
Data scientists. One was COVID. Right, kids, you grew up
with COVID losing graduation? It really was. I mean, I
don't want to sound over over extended when I say this,
but it is true. It was kind of like world
growing up during World War Two, or growing up during
the War on Terror, or growing up during Vietnam. It
(51:31):
is a defining thing for your generation that will impact
your politics probably for Well.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Let me cut you off for a moment there, because
I do think a lot of people have missed this.
If you didn't get to go to prom, or you
didn't get to play your high school football season, and
a lot of these kids they're sixteen and suddenly they
don't go back to school again until they're eighteen. That's
such a formative, transformative era. I don't think that you're
over analyzing that. In fact, I think it's been under discussed.
(51:59):
I just want to kind of emphasize that aspect here
because I think it hasn't been talked about enough about
culturally right.
Speaker 11 (52:06):
And the other big thing that no one else has
talked about that a number of people brought ups me
is that older gen Zers right their parents are still
most are still like half baby boomers, which are now
becoming one of the more progressive. Younger baby boomers are
far more progressive than older baby boomers are. Most younger
gen Zers are almost all younger gen Zers parents are
(52:29):
gen xers, and they are the most republican demographic in
the country today. So the who is these gen Zers
parents also plays a significant part in why their politics
have shifted. Their politics are more right wing for these kids,
in part because the parents have changed and the parents
are more right wing than the parents that came before.
(52:49):
That plays a significant role in why these kids are
more younger. I mean, listen, if you grew up and
you were a baby boomer, and you were a younger
baby boomer, like let's say you're sixty now, and your
politics revolved around, I don't know, not protesting the Vianamore.
You might have been too young for that, but you
remember it certainly. Versus if you are a younger baby,
(53:10):
if you're a gen Xer and you grew up watching
you know, Jay and silent Bob strikes back, and you thought,
you know, you were non conformists, and you had Johnny
Depp posted in your bedroom versus like David Cassidy. That's
an entirely different cultural reference point. And a lot of
Gen Xers are more countercultural in that respect, and they
(53:30):
do had a nonconformity and they don't like authoritarianism like
the way we saw during COVID.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Speaking of Ryan Gerdusky, it's a numbers game, as this
podcast on the Clay Endbuck Network, So go it's a
great time to listen to it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Go check it out. You'll be really up to speed.
Speaker 8 (53:47):
Ran.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
What else is really top of your radar for the
data out there to tell us about how things are
trending right now for Trump, the Republicans, the country at large.
Speaker 11 (53:56):
Right So there's a new pull out that I find
very very interesting. It's by a Democratic firm, so I'm
going to take it with a big grain of salt.
But it is a question I have thought about over
and over, and that is Latinos who voted for Joe
Biden in twenty twenty and then Donald Trump and then
twenty twenty four. This is the group that will affect
a number of congressional districts. This is the group that
(54:17):
we are redistricting Texas around. Right. So the poll, which
once again is a Democratic polster, and they weren't particularly
amazing in during twenty twenty four, but they were like,
way way off, So it's called equis research. They said
that only eight percent of Latinos who voted for Donald
Trump in twenty twenty four plan on voting for the
Democrat in twenty twenty six. That is not a major
(54:39):
defection at all. Specifically among Biden Trump voters. These are
what they call the Biden defectors. A thirty percent say
they are planning on voting for the Democrat. That is
ten points down from three months ago. That said that
when he said forty percent would vote for the Democrat.
So of those group of people who are new to
the Republican Party, who have a law lifelong history of
(55:01):
voting for Democrats, two out of three are not returning
home for the Democratic Party. You know, you may say
thirty percent is a huge chunk, but in long trajectories
of a long history of when groups of people switch
party in vacation. You're talking ethnic whites in the sixties,
or Jews or which not, or you know, working class people.
There's always bumps, ups and downs. They switch, they come back,
(55:24):
they go, they come back. But there's a trajectory that
they'll pay attention to. If you look at the Latina vote,
the working class Latino vote, the fact that two thirds
are sitting there and saying no, I'm probably they're undecided
or I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party. That continues
that trajectory going forward. And it says for the Democrats
and say, you're not going to wake up and all
of a sudden being twenty twelve again, these people kind
(55:46):
of have come to stay, and you're going to have
to either figure out a new coalition or change your
policies or your vibes or whatever to bring them back.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Some people think that Kamala Harris has a political future.
People think that Kamala Harris is finished.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
What do you think?
Speaker 11 (56:05):
I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is
probably finished with politics, don't. I don't think anyone in
the Democratic Party that I have spoken to, I know,
I know a few Democratic cans alto take her seriously,
and they didn't. Most did not take her seriously in
twenty twenty when she was vicked as the VP, and
they certainly didn't take her seriously. Now, no matter how
(56:28):
many of bitches are in that she's she had the
perfect campaign. The perfect campaign generally leaves you in the
White House's she's going on, Stephen Colbert, It's a much
different life.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
On the House for next year. The five potential editions
in Texas. There's lots of talk about a variety of
different state moves and everything else. But it seems to me,
and you correct me if I'm wrong, that everybody trying
to claim, oh, only one side jerry manders is completely wrong. Basically,
(57:00):
red states are going to do whatever makes sense for
red states by and large. Blue states are going to
do whatever makes sense for Blue states by and large.
If you assess the overall map, is one party more
or less guilty of jerrymandering than the other, And how
much movement do you think might happen before next year
when I think most people agree the House is likely
(57:22):
to come down to five or six seats. It's going
to be a fine line between who controls it.
Speaker 11 (57:27):
Well, there is one party that overly jerry manners, and
that's Democrats. Remember, the Democrats don't have control of many
different states as reproportionment, right, they have control. In twenty twenty,
they had control essentially of seven states Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts,
and Rhode Island. Those are the only seven states they
had full control of. In all seven states, there are
(57:50):
a total of six elected Republicans out of dozens of
congressional seats. They jerrymanner them to the Republicans, the absolute
corners where they couldn't base the get rid of all
of them, but every chance that they had to get
rid of them. Oregon should have easily two Republicans, Nevada
two Republicans, New Mexico won, Maryland two, Illinois should have
five or six, Massachusetts should have won. They all have none. Now,
(58:13):
if you look at the Republican districts Texas, everyone's sung Texas. Texas.
You know, so jerrymandered. Texas is less jerrymandered than Illinois,
than Maryland, than New Jersey, than California, than Oregon, then
New Mexico, then all of these states. Right, they are
super super gerrymandered, and where they could knock Republicans off,
they did. The problem is Democrats have sat there and
(58:36):
changed to commission based redistricting, which has to at least
look semi fair, even when it's not in the case
of California and New Jersey and Washington. So Governor Gavin
Newsom pouting his chest, thing, I'm going to fight, you know,
I'm gonna fight abb and I'm going to change these
my lines and I'm going to give Democrats six new
seats is impossible. Sure, so is like a flying pig.
(58:58):
It's not really ever going to happen because it would
take so many hurdles. They have to do a conscial convention.
If the past two thirds majority have to go to
a vote for the people, millions of dollars in several
years would have to be spent order for Gaven Neuwsen
to get that. Same thing with New York, same thing
with New Jersey is people pouting their chests and pretending
like Democrats have been working, you know, in such a
(59:19):
sanctimonious way to give fair representation. Are lying to themselves,
and most of them are lying to the voters about
how they're going to fight back. It's basically to sit
there and say, you know, I'm going to be the
candidate to take on Trump when they run for president
in four years.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Who is the leader of the Democrat Party right now
as far as you can see, Ryan, Because Kamala was
asked last night on Colbert and didn't even She didn't
do what I would expect a Democrat to do, which
is say, oh, we have so many people and rattle
off the first four or five names that come to mind.
She said nothing, What are you say?
Speaker 11 (59:53):
Well, isn't that typic of Kamala Harris to say nothing?
I would sit there and say it's probably Bernie Sanders
as of right.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
I think Bernie Sanders. Wow, I thought you were gonna
say newsome Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 11 (01:00:03):
No, No, it's not even close. Bernie has the highest
airbility rating of any elected Democrat. Second is AOC. The
progressive wing is on the rise, and there's just no
there's no derailing it at this point. And you know
we are we They're gonna switch the chairs in the
deck on the Titanic, the Dextros Undertannic to try to
get more moderates to be elected. They'll move the primaries
(01:00:25):
of South Carolina, but do everything they can. But we
are just, you know, maybe an election cycle maybe two
away from the Democrats going full Mandannie nationwide, and that
you know, we're just going to be in a new
progressive phase where they go far left on a number
of issues.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Let me let me make the case, and I want
to get your reaction quickly here if I'm advising Kamala, right,
I'm not saying that I agree with all of this,
all right, just to be fair, but I look at
guys who and gals who were likely to run, Gavin Newsome,
Gretchen Whitmer, Joshua Pierre, Andy Basheer, JB. Pritzker, and all
(01:01:05):
of these so called mayor Pete. Many of them are
basically white people, right, that are attempting to persuade college
educated white voters that they're the right choice. Like Mayor
Pete for instance, has zero percent support among black people. Meanwhile,
you know, if you're a if you're a college educated
(01:01:25):
woman out there, you love him, right, he is your
favorite gay friend and so and so. If you look
on the minority side, right, Corey Booker is a joke, right.
I mean, every time a guy opens his mouth. He
looks like crazy eyes from the curb your enthusiasm. I mean,
he just looks like an insane person. I think he
has no larger political future. Wes Moore is uncertain AOC.
(01:01:50):
My point is, if you're looking at the minority black
side of the Democrat Party, if I'm advising Kamala Harris,
Stacey Abrams is done, Karen bass is done. There's almost
no one else in that lane, and she doesn't have
to be hugely popular. She just has to get that
twenty five percent. Am I crazy? Or who is going
to contend with her for that lane if she were
(01:02:12):
to run.
Speaker 11 (01:02:13):
Well, the one thing I would say, I understand your presumption,
but I just want to put one little context in
here is that the black vote, especially in the South,
doesn't always vote for the black candidate. They vote for
the candidate I think can win. They are much more
modern and pragmatic than I think you're giving them credit for.
So I would sit there and say, if you're Kamala Harrison,
you want to have a footprint in politics, realizing that
(01:02:36):
your weaknesses as a candidate, I would go and do
what Richard Nixon did Former Seuer pak campaign for the
next Democrat be a kingmaker and then if they don't win,
come under your white horse and give it eight years
in the wildness. She can afford that time if she
wants to do that. I don't think she even can.
But I don't think the presumption is that the black
vote is going to only vote for a black candidate.
(01:02:57):
I think that they're going to they'll be okay with
a black candidate being on the tip, But I don't
think that they need a black candidate because in a
long history from Clinton, I always remember Clinton ran against
Jesse Jackson, I mean, and Obama was the only one
today sat there, so we have to have it. So
I think that they're more pragmatic than that and more
modern good stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Ryan Gerdusky you can find him in the Clay and
Buck podcast network. We appreciate the time, man.
Speaker 11 (01:03:22):
Thank you.
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