August 8, 2025 • 62 mins
Trump Broke Their Brains
The three-year anniversary of the Mar-a-Lago raid, framing it as a pivotal moment in American political history. Clay Travis discusses the Department of Justice investigations, including the appointment of Ed Martin as special prosecutor to probe alleged mortgage fraud involving Adam Schiff and Letitia James, and the implications of grand jury investigations in New York and Washington, D.C.
The show dives into the cultural fallout of the woke era, highlighting the cancellation of Grant Napear, former Sacramento Kings announcer, for tweeting “All Lives Matter.” Clay previews Napear’s upcoming appearance in Hour 2, emphasizing the broader collapse of the Hollywood woke industrial complex, including failures in the superhero movie genre and critiques of left-wing comedy figures like Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, and Howard Stern.
Clay also reflects on Buck Sexton’s vacation in the North Carolina mountains, contrasting the friendliness of conservative communities with Buck’s experiences in New York City. The segment underscores the cultural divide between urban liberal enclaves and heartland America, with anecdotes about college football fandom and regional hospitality.
A major theme throughout the hour is the political weaponization of the justice system, with Clay arguing that attempts to imprison President Trump backfired, strengthening his support and securing his return to the White House. He predicts a future media pivot, where Trump will be rebranded from “existential threat” to “most talented politician of our time,” especially as the 2027 election cycle approaches.
All Lives Matter
cultural and political fallout of the woke movement, cancel culture, and the broader American cultural shift. This hour features an in-depth interview with Grant Napear, the former voice of the Sacramento Kings, who was fired in 2020 after tweeting “All Lives Matter.” Napear recounts the rapid unraveling of his 32-year broadcasting career and the lack of public support from industry peers, despite widespread private agreement with his stance. His story is framed as emblematic of the cancel culture era, particularly during the Black Lives Matter protests and COVID lockdowns, and highlights the fear-driven silence of many in media and corporate America.
America's Healing
Clay Travis uses Napear’s experience to underscore the broader theme of cowardice vs. courage in American society, especially among wealthy elites who failed to speak out during critical cultural moments. He argues that the Trump presidency has ushered in a period of cultural correction, where many of the excesses of the woke era are being rolled back. The hour also touches on the legal victories for President Trump, including a federal appeals court ruling that reversed a contempt finding related to deportation policies under the Alien Enemies Act, reinforcing Trump’s executive authority. The changing landscape of college admissions, particularly in SEC schools, and the viral popularity of sorority recruitment videos, which Clay sees as a reflection of shifting cultural values.
Woke No More
The cultural backlash against woke ideology, with Clay Travis spotlighting the viral success of Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle ad, the New York Times’ attempt to downplay the controversy, and the broader collapse of left-wing cultural dominance in entertainment and media. Clay and guest Ian Miller dissect the decline of superhero movies, attributing failures like Black Widow, Eternals, and Ant-Man 3 to Marvel’s post-Endgame political messaging and audience fatigue. They critique James Gunn’s framing of the new Superman film as an immigration story, arguing that politicizing entertainment alienates viewers and contributes to box office losses.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Have you heard of the Rio Reset?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, it.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Can he give us some inside intel?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account,
your four oh one k r ira, all of them,
by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and
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You can rely on Birch Gold Group as I do
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(01:38):
informed decision. One more time, Text my name Buck to
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Speaker 3 (01:43):
Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Let's
have some fun. We're stacking wins in every direction. It
is the three year anniversary of the Mara Lago raid.
For those of you who remember that day. I don't
think it's consequential that we have some breaking news today
(02:06):
on Department of Justice investigations. We are going to talk
about that and how all of these things roll together.
We got a couple of really interesting guests. Grant Napier
for those of you out in the Sacramento area, Grant
was the play by play voice of the Sacramento Kings,
the NBA franchise out there. They fired him during the
(02:29):
days of BLM for simply tweeting all Lives Matter. It's
one of the most ridiculous cancelations that happened in a
several year span filled with many different ridiculous cancelations. Good
news he has got a new job. But I do
think that story is important to reflect upon, and I
(02:51):
think you will like the direction that Ed has taken
as a redemptive arc. We'll talk about that a little
bit in the second hour. He is set to join
us in the third hour. The sort of Hollywood woke
industrial complex is collapsing, and that's occurring even in superhero movies,
which used to be the flourishing elements of the Hollywood
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establishment that was what made all their money. What's going
on there? Ian Miller has got an interesting piece about
the finances behind big Hollywood failures even in superhero movies,
and I thought that was kind of a fun Friday
right before we head out about two thirty near the
end of the show. The culture here is paramount, and
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I think what we're seeing is so many different culture wins,
and much of what happened over what I would say
the woke era of the last decade that started. My
big theory here is this started all around the time
that social media took off and that suddenly everybody had
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instantaneous news and video on their phones. I think it
drove the entire country crazy. And I think there is
more and more of an acknowledgment of this across the
political spectrum, particularly as it pertains to young people, where
basically every school in America is suddenly circling around and saying, boy,
it was crazy that we were letting kids sit around
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in classrooms on social media texting all day long. And
I really think that there is going to be an
examination of the social media just sort of induction into
this country and all of the toxicity that it unleashed
and all of the falsehoods that it allowed to be
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embedded in the United States, in particular because the algorithms
being run out of Silicon Valley were so far left
wing that suddenly Americans thought the entire country was like
the faculty lounge of a Portland area college. And I
(05:05):
think what you've seen is a mass rejection of the
insanity and a return in many ways to common sense.
And so I'm going to break all this down. We
got a lot of fun scheduled for you during the
course of the show. Buck is in the mountains I
believe of North Carolina, not Ashville, but somewhere in the
vicinity of Ashville, and he texted this morning that he
(05:27):
is meeting many of our listeners there and that he
is in a very pro Clay and Buck community. I
think Buck is still scarred from living in New York City.
Producer Ali will remember this when I took him to
the Ole Miss Alabama game, and he had never been
to a college football game as a kid, you know,
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grew up in New York City. He's always basically under
siege as a New York City Conservative, as a New
York City Republican voter. And I think he's still a
little bit in shock by how other parts of the
country are to him. I don't know if anybody else
gets that sent since, but Ali, do you remember how
Buck just couldn't believe how incredibly nice everybody was. He'd
(06:10):
never been to the state of Alabama before, he'd never
been to a college football game. And everywhere we went,
people coming up to us, big fans of the show,
big fans of the fact that he was visiting and
going to his first college football game. And I was like,
a whole different universe that he had never seen before.
And I know you live in New York City too,
but did you get that sense? And he still is.
(06:30):
He goes around to these other parts of the country,
He's like, man, you know, people really are nice outside
of New York City when it comes to Noah's body
being punked.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
At first, he was like, I.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Could get used to this.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes, yes, it is like when you actually get outside
of New York in LA. And I know we got
a lot of listeners in New York and LA. But
this is why, to me, college football fans are the
backbone of American extraordinary awesomeness. And so I trust you,
even if you happen to have the gall or absolute
(07:05):
ridiculousness to vote for teams that they're playing against. My
University of Tennessee buck is in the Highlands. I think
that's a broad area. I always hate to say for
specific vacation time, Oh he's this exact location or whatever,
but that is where he is, and he says everybody
is fabulous to him. So if you happen to be
(07:26):
in that area, you might well see Buck walking around
with his wife and their little baby. So he is out.
He will be back on Monday. But I wanted to
dive into this three year anniversary of the raid on
mar A Lago. And it is not coincidental that as
I sit down to talk to all of you Fox
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News first on Fox, I'm reading from their Twitter account.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Attorney General Pam Bondi has authorized a special prosecutor, Ed Martin.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And pause here.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
This is the Ed Martin that many of you will
remember we had on program because Democrats refuse to elevate
him to be the US Attorney for Washington, d C.
And so as a result, President Trump put in place
Judge Janine Piro, who is teeming off left and right
over the crime rate in DC. And we'll talk about
(08:17):
that more during the course of the program. But Ed
Martin is now in as a special prosecutor to investigate
allegations of mortgage fraud involving Adam Schiff, Senator from California,
and Leticia James, the Attorney General of New York who
prosecuted Trump. That is, according to Peter douce Ed Martin
(08:40):
was on with us May eighth. That is an incredible
decision and I think will work out phenomenally well. We
also have news that a grand jury investigation has also
been opened in New York into Leticia James and her
behavior surrounding the decision to come after Trump for civil
(09:04):
forfeiture relating to bank loans and all of that. I
believe she got a verdict of four hundred and fifty
million dollars something in that universe, so that in and
of itself is also turning into a big story. But
I wanted to take us back in time a little
bit because I believe this is when Trump won the
Republican nomination for president, and I think historically this is
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going to be seen as one of the biggest own goals,
one of the most self inflicted wounds. I think as
soon as Biden and his Department of Justice decided to
try to put Trump in prison, they actually put Trump
back into the White House. I think it would have
been if they had not prosecuted. I think they would
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have been in a better position in the twenty twenty
four election. But three days after the mar A Lago raid,
so this is a flashback. A couple of days after
the raid, Merrick Garland finally had a press conference and said,
this is rating the former president of the United States.
Is a faithful adherence to the rule of law, and
(10:11):
there is no politics involved in this at all. Remember,
Merrick Garland himself signed off on an unprecedented raid of
the former president's home at Merrick Mara A Lago. Here's
cut one.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock
principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding
the rule of law means applying the law evenly, without
fear or favor under my watch. That is precisely what
the Justice Department is doing. There are, however, certain points
(10:45):
I want you to know. First, I personally approve the
decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. Second,
the Department does not take such a decision lightly where
possible in a standard practice to seek less intrusive means
as an alternative to a search and to narrowly scope
any search that is undertaken.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
All Right, this very interesting in and of itself, because
I believe, without a doubt this is what put Trump
into the White House. And I also want to play
a couple of additional cuts that surround this. This was
everyone out there trying to tell you, hey, there's actually
(11:31):
nothing at all unacceptable about this raid. This is completely
and totally normal. This was again three years ago to
the date when I believe Trump officially became the nominee.
Here we go with let's see cut three, former federal
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prosecutor Daniel Goodman saying, we need to recognize and praise
Merrick Garland for following the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Here's cut three.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Garland, who has said very consistently, much to the frustration
of some on the left, that he is following the facts,
and he's following the law wherever it goes. And so
he took this action because he had probable cause to
do so. And I'm sure he took this action because
it was a significant and necessary move as part of
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this investigation. And if he doesn't take this action because
of the backlash, then it is a political decision. So
we need to recognize and praise Merrick Garland for following
the rule of law.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh my goodness, I mean now that we know also
just how much of a sham it was we thought
at the time. Remember they took the photos of the
classified documents on the ground. They even went through Malanya's
underwear drawer. I mean, this was absolutely bonkers. And now
that we have had that case tossed by thankfully the
(12:57):
federal District Court judge in South Florida, a lot of
people forget that case was even tossed in July of
twenty twenty four before Trump even won the election, because
it was found to be illegitimate. I do think it's
worthwhile going back and listening to what all of the
talking heads, the left wing londs said, including the now
(13:18):
canceled Stephen Colbert, this feels even a little bit more
delicious cut forth, we learned.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
The news of the FBI raid straight from the horse's
ass because the former president posted the news on social media.
These are dark times for our nation, as my beautiful home,
mar Al Lago and Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege,
raided and occupied by a large group of FBI agents.
Nothing like this has ever happened to a president of
the United States before?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, of course it hasn't.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
No president has ever been as criminal as you are.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Isn't it even more delicious that Stephen Colbert is gone
When you listen to a clip like that. He was
trying to tap down on what he thought was the
political grave of Donald Trump, he told his unfortunate audience,
and maybe we can grab I don't think this is
in the cuts, guys, but can we grab the audio?
I saw Buckery tweet this. Can we grab the audio
(14:14):
of John Oliver being upset at Jay Leno for saying
the job of comedy is to try to talk to
everyone and make fun of a variety of different groups,
and John Oliver just being like, no, it isn't. My
job is to be a left wing propagandist. It really
is amazing how Trump has broken the brains of so
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many people in the comedic universe that I think, without
Trump may well have had much longer careers and certainly
would have had much more successful ones. And by the way,
one of those guys is Howard Stern. I saw the
guy was one of the most revolutionary, whatever you think
about him, one of the most revolutionary, aggressive, relentless in
(14:55):
his risk taking, and now he's turned in to a
complete and total pussy Willow. He's just a shill for
Big That interview he did with Joe Biden actually made
me uncomfortably ill trying to watch it because it was
such ridiculous propaganda. But we will talk about all that more. Plus,
(15:17):
Sydney Sweeney is still in the news. If you're in
Las Vegas, American Eagle not backing down. They put her
on that brand new massive sphere out there in her jeens.
New York Times has a story up about it. They
quote me in it. I mentioned that I had talked
to the New York Times. Go figure. Their article is dishonest.
(15:39):
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Speaker 3 (16:50):
You guys know, I started off in the world of sports,
and the colleges are all returning to campus and during
the commercial break, I scrolling through checking to see what
all the latest news is. And I don't know how
many of you have seen these kind of stories. I
bet your kids and your grandkids have. As part of
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recruitment for all the kids going back to schools, the
sororities are doing all sorts of sorority dance videos.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
One of our writers at OutKick.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Joe Kinzie, who does fabulous work there, posted a video
yesterday of one of the SEC sororities. It got eleven
million views on Twitter, and these things are trending everywhere.
And I was just joking because I just shared the
video that he shared on social media, and I'm I'm
kind of partly kidding about this, but it's going to
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be harder in the future to get into SEC schools
than it is to get into Ivy League schools. Because
I tweet about this, and I'm about to bring in
Grant Napier and I want to get his story because
I think it all kind of ties in with the
cultural time shift that we're seeing. When I was a kid,
you basically had to have a pulse to get into
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an SEC school. I graduated high school in nineteen ninety seven,
and I could have gotten into the University of Tennessee
maybe as a dead man. They probably would have admitted
me if I could have paid the tuition. Right now,
the University of Tennessee has a thirty eight percent at
mid rate.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Ole miss and.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
People in Mississippi are going to kind of know when you
had a kid that was a troublemaker and couldn't get
into any other school. You were like, all right, I
guess we'll send him to Ole Miss. It's hard to
get into Ole Miss. Now, kids in LA and Chicago
and New York City are cutting each other in their
admissions counselor offices to try to get an invite to Starkville, Mississippi.
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I've never seen anything like this. Every southern big school
that plays football, every Q girl wants to go there,
and every guy who likes Q girls wants to go
there too. And there's a lot of those people all
over the country. But anyway, let's bring in Grant Napier.
I do think it's emblematic of the cultural shift that
we are seeing across the country. But I want to
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go back in time, way way back in time to
five years ago, in the summer of twenty twenty. Grant
Napier with us now, and Grant, I just want you
to tell this audience your story because we talked about
it back in the day when I was doing my
sports talk radio show, and everybody kind of turned their
backs on you. But tell me, just kind of take
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for this audience, tell them what was going on with
you in the summer of twenty twenty, and what happened
to you? I'm just going to give you the floor.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
On May thirty, first of twenty twenty, I was sitting
in my living room watching TV and I got a
phone call from the head coach now of the Sacramento King,
Stug Christy, who is my co host on my radio show,
and he said, Napes, did you see de Marcus Cousin's tweet?
I said, no, I don't follow him. As a matter
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of fact, I'm muted him. And he said you should
check it out. So I did, and it was at
Grant Nee Peer's show, what do you think of BLM?
And I said something like, hey, I haven't heard from
you in years. I thought you forgot about me. And
I responded with six words, all lives matter, every single
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one in capital letters with three exclamation points. Well, all
of a sudden, I'm getting a lot of calls and messages.
Oh wow, I can't believe you said that. That was
Sunday night, at about six o'clock Tuesday afternoon. By two
forty I had been fired by a radio station that
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I was at for twenty six years, same time slot
for twenty six years, highly rated show, and then I
resigned as the thirty two year TV voice of the
Sacramento Kings on that same day. That was five years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
This is I mean, I think it's important to remind
people of what was going on. So I want to
follow this back up. You tweeted in response to an
NBA player tweeting to you about black lives matter. All
lives matter, every single one, and you lost your radio job,
sports talk radio job of twenty six years, and your
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thirty two year Sacramento Kings television announcing job was gone
as well. Okay, that is I mean, it is really
very staggering. What was the response, both publicly and privately
to all of that happening to you in the early
summer of twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Privately, people were outraged, they were blown away. I had
some of the biggest names in the sportscasting industry reach
out to me talking about how they couldn't believe it.
And then they were telling me that geez, they're going
to be nervous about saying something that maybe they shouldn't
or it's going to be misconstrued. But what was amazing
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is every single one of them said, I would love
to speak up for you. Publicly, but I can't. They
were too afraid. That was what it was like. People
were too afraid to speak out and come to my
defense publicly. I had a lot of support, but unfortunately
this was one week after the murder of George Floyd.
You know what's crazy about this, Clay? Leading up to
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that May thirty first, May twenty fifth was when George
Floyd was murdered. I mean, I had a lot of
positive tweets about what was going on, supporting everything that
was going on. Nobody spent five minutes to go back
and look at those tweets. It was like, oh, wait
a minute, we have to fire Grant Nepier. We have
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to show black lives matter don't come after us. Oh no,
we fired a guy that said all lives matter. They panicked.
I mean, think about that. Clay, a thirty two year career,
a twenty six year career. I didn't have one thing
in either HR department with the Sacramento Kings or Bonaville International.
And here's something else that's interesting. If you go to
Bonnaville International right now, if you google Bonnaville International leadership
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and you look at their leadership, every single person is
either a white male or a white female, No people
of color, no minorities. It's a freaking joke. It's an
absolute joke. And I was the scapegoat. I was the
sacrificial lamb to tell black lives matter. Hey, don't come
after us. We just fired a guy that said all
lives matter. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I remember covering it, and I believe we had you
on and we talked about the fact that this was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
There was almost nobody else that would say it.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Why what lessons sitting here five years later do you
think the country needs to take and to learn? What
would you hope? By the way, before we get into
the lessons, let's go to the reason. I was very
excited to see this. You now are coming back on
the air. Sacramento is one of the biggest audiences this
show has, so we appreciate everybody listening to us in California.
(24:03):
You are going to be back on the air after
five years doing sports talk radio in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Well, I'm very excited. It just kind of all happened
over the last couple of months. If you had ask
me a year ago, if I thought I'd be back
on Sacramento Radio. I would have said, no way. I've
been doing a podcast. I started doing a podcast in
October of twenty twenties, just a couple of months after
I was fired. And isn't it just crazy? My first
guest on my podcast, Charles Barkley, he didn't have a
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problem with me saying all lives matter. I had Dusty
Baker on. I've had a lot of former Kings on
spud Web, Reggie Theas, I had the former head coach
Keith Smart on. I mean, I didn't go on and
on and on. They didn't have any problem with it.
It's just a joke. But I am going back September second.
I'm starting on Fox Sports Radio Sacramento. I'm very excited
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about it. But you asked me a question about you know,
what have I learned in the last five years? You
know Zoobie music. Yeah, yeah, well over a million followers
on social media. And I wrote this down a couple
of years ago because I thought he deals in common sense.
He's like you, you know, you guys deal in common sense.
He wrote, Black lives matter because all lives matter, White
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lives matter because all lives matter. All lives couldn't matter,
if black or white lives didn't matter or any others.
Stop being dumb and dividing over basic stuff we already
agree on. Here's what I've learned over the last five years.
I've been blessed to travel. I've been to Europe, I
frequently go to Thailand, and I've talked to a lot
of people from a lot of different cultures, different backgrounds,
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different countries. We're the only people, I think, on the
planet that are even debating this and talking about this.
This is not a topic anywhere else in the world.
I don't understand why here we are in twenty twenty
five and there are people even on my social media
over the last twenty four hours, you know, talking about well,
gee didn't he learn you can't say all lives matter
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and know those are very much in the minority. Those
were only a few people. But the point is there
are still some people in this country that think that
all lives matter is a racist comment. I don't get
that all lives matter, every single one doesn't have any
great area to me. All lives matter, every single one,
I would think is pretty self explanatory. But I think
Zoobie summarized it perfectly, so what have I learned in
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the last five years. I've learned that it's really only
an issue in America with the woke culture, and if
you're not politically correct, you're going to get attacked. I mean,
it's a joke. It's an absolute joke what I've gone through.
I've got great support. I don't have any problem putting
my head on the pillow at night. I'm grateful for
this opportunity to get back to Sacramento Radio. But again,
(26:44):
I don't know what the big deal is. And you know,
it's such a shame that in America. And I don't
want to go off on a tangent here, but everything's
about black and white. Why does it have to be
like that? Again, when I travel around the world and
talk to people from different cultures, it's not like that
there entirely, and which I love, and it's a great country.
They don't care what your ethnicity is, your religion, your
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sexual orientation. They're just good people. They're happy people, they work.
They don't even talk about this stuff. But in America
it's like a daily conversation. I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I think this is important conversation and I want to
go back to the difference between public and private commentary.
What I try to do, for better or worse, and
I screw up all the time on the show. I
can barely pronounce half the words that I try to
say on a day to day basispecially as anybody long
term listening would recognize, try to have fun with it.
But what I try to do is there's very little
(27:37):
difference between what I would say publicly and what I
would say privately. And I think that's why people have
never really been able grant to come after me, because
that's what I've done my whole career. I'm not saying
I'm perfect, but I'm just saying there is no gap.
If I go to this Atlanta Braves game tonight, which
I'm going to do with my kids, and you see
me there, what I would say to you in person
(27:58):
is the same thing that I would say on the radio. Now,
maybe occasionally I cursed at a sporting event, you know,
things like that, I have FCC restrictions here, so you know,
with that limited difference for you, what I found during
the BLM era, during COVID during the summer of twenty twenty,
all of that, so many people said to me privately,
(28:19):
I agree one hundred percent with everything you're saying, but
I'm afraid to say it publicly. And that's how the
world becomes. What happened to you is people know it's wrong,
but they're afraid of being targeted themselves. And I imagine
you saw better than most that dichotomy between what people
would say to you privately and what might be said publicly.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Totally, you're one hundred percent correct. And here's another aspect
of what I went through five years ago. So I
was fired. I had my career literally turned upside down
in thirty six hours. In the early two thousand, so
I started a foundation in Sacramento call the Future Foundation.
I had an annual golf tournament. And what we did
is we took underprivileged, at need students from high schools
in the Sacramento area. All Right, they had to fit
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a certain criteria. These were first generational college students. I mean,
it was incredible my foundation that I raised the money for.
We put one hundred and four students into college and
through college, most of whom were minorities. Okay, nobody spent
five minutes and said who whoa whoa Whoaha, Wait a minute,
Look at what this guy's done for the community. Look
(29:24):
what he's done for the black community. I think we
had thirty eight students of color that I put through college.
It's like that didn't matter. It was just a knee jerk,
ridiculous action by the company that fired me. And I
agree with you about the private public thing. I think
things are different now, and I think people are much
more open about coming out and feeling confident about speaking
(29:47):
your opinion and what they believe in. But in twenty twenty,
people were paranoid. You know that, Clay, I mean people
that listen. If you were white, I'm just you know this,
If you were a white person in the media, okay,
you had to be walking on eight shells to go
out and say anything even remotely negative about Black Lives matter.
I mean, you would have been canceled. I was canceled, right,
(30:11):
I was canceled five years ago. I was part of
the cancel culture. And everyone knows it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, Look, Grant, congratulations on your new radio show in Sacramento. Again,
I know a lot of people out there listening to
us right now in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Know you well.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And I am glad that you are finally getting back
to doing what you do well. But I do think
it's a lesson of how the world lost its mind
in sports and otherwise, culture, politics, everywhere else. I appreciate
you making the time for us, and congrats on the
new show.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Well thanks for having me on. Bottom line, I'm happy,
I have no regrets, I'm all good, and I can't
wait for this next chapter. And I greatly respect you,
love your work, and thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He's Grant Napier and you can listen to him Sports
Soccer Radio in Sacramento, where he never should have been
off the air in the first place. We'll take some
reactions to that, and I do think his story is
emblematic of as we come up on the five year
anniversary of all that chaos, all the things that were
done wrong and what is being rejected now and all
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,
granted apier if you missed that right at the top
of the hour here in hour two Friday edition. I
do think it is really indicative. I want to have
a big conversation about this because I do think that
much of the ills that have been created in this
(32:48):
country are slowly being eradicated, and I think a lot
of it is directly connected to social media, and I've
been thinking a lot about this because culture and I
understand by the way, in the third hour, we're going
to talk about Hollywood movie some and I understand. Let
me give you a couple of updates because everything is
(33:08):
basically a court decision that happens every single day. Have
you noticed that almost every bit of opposition for Trump
is now court related, So it feels like every day
we have a different Department of Justice update, we have
a different Circuit Court update, district court update.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I never would have believed.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
When I went to law school twenty some odd years
ago that I would end up doing what I do
today and that so much of everything would boil down
to what judges are saying on a day to day basis.
But I do want to mention this because it is
a significant court ruling and it's in favor of Trump,
(33:47):
as most of these rulings frankly have been. And so
let me give this to you straight. This happened in
the last hour and a half or so. I mentioned
already that Pam Bondi authorized Special Prosecutor Ed Martin to
look into Senator Adam Schiff of California and Letitia James
relating to mortgage fraud. This is I'm reading directly from
(34:11):
Bill Malugin at Fox News. A federal appeals court has
reversed federal Judge James Boseberg's ruling of probable cause to
hold the Trump administration in contempt of court over the
deportation of Venezuelan illegal aliens to l Salvador via the
Alien Enemies Act. Legal win for Trump administration, and that
(34:34):
is very detailed, packed with legalies there, but basically what
it means is the president can put illegal immigrants on airplanes,
especially if they have violent records, and send them out
of the country, and individual judges don't have the power
(34:54):
to decide, hey, turn that plane around. You don't have
executive authority to do that. So this is the DC circuit.
This was one Judge Boseburg, who is basically decided that
he is the Trump opposition, the chief of the Trump
opposition in judicial robes sitting, not the full DC Circuit,
(35:20):
but a three judge panel has overturned that decision two
to one.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So from here.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
And again, I never would have believe that this is
what I would go to law school and end up doing,
because I didn't think really that the courts would essentially
become our news stories on a day to day basis.
From here, there is either a full appeal to the
entire DC Circuit, all of them. There are a bunch
(35:48):
of judges there, or this would then go on to
the Supreme Court if it were in some way appealed,
and we would find out whether or not it is
able to that that ruling is able to stand. I'm
here to tell you it is not an individual federal
District court judge, as we told you when this happened,
does not have the power to say to the President
(36:11):
of the United States, turn that plane around and bring
it back to the country. That is crazy. The fact
that he attempted to do it is crazy. It is
not dissimilar to what happened in the Ninth Circuit when
you had I believe it was Judge Brier, a federal
District court judge there try to say Trump didn't have
(36:32):
the ability to call in the Guard to help with
all of the protests that were going on against Ice.
If the president can't call in state and National Guard,
and if he doesn't have the power when he sees
issues arising to put them down, then there is no
supremacy clause, and we told you this at the time.
(36:53):
Individual state governors cannot overrule the president of the United
States when it comes to issues relating to the National
Guard or to the State Guard. So anyway, all of
that has continued to be a battle. Trump is in
the right. All of the resistance two point zero is
not coming, by and large from the Democrat Party. It's
(37:14):
not coming from organized mass protests. There's been virtually none.
There is not the energy this term to be doing that,
even with likely money being spent by Trump's adversaries. So
it's basically federal district court judges who have decided we
don't like some of the decisions that Trump is making
and we are going to oppose them. So that happened
(37:36):
today Boseburg in DC being shot down by the three
judge panel that considered the ruling that he attempted to
put in place that would have limited President Trump's power. Okay,
now you just heard from Grant Napier, who was fired.
(37:56):
He said he spent thirty two years as the voice
of the Sacramento Kings, twenty six years doing sports, and
he lost his job for tweeting all lives matter, every
single one five years later. Credit to Fox Sports Radio Sacramento.
He is being given back his ability to talk about
(38:19):
sports on the radio. But I don't know if there
is a better story out there than Grant Napiers to
illustrate just how crazy the country went and how crazy
sports went. I did a story, and I was one
of the few people who would actually speak out in
(38:39):
favor of Grant, because Bucket likes to joke about this sometimes.
But when you attack me, I double or triple or
quadruple down. I don't tiptoe up. I don't step back
and say, hey, I'm sorry, I was wrong here. I
knew in real time as most people did. Firing somebody
(39:02):
for tweeting all lives matter, every single one is indefensible.
It is indisputably true, and it is not racist, and
it is not worthy of someone losing their job, a
job that they had done well for thirty two years
and twenty six years. Most people knew that most people
(39:26):
were cowards. And this is how Buck and I met
because Buck was similar in that he didn't back down
surrounding COVID. He didn't back down surrounding BLM, and neither
did I. And what has often disappointed me. And I'm
(39:46):
glad that we're in the payback stage where so many
people who made so many awful decisions are now being
rejected being held accountable. But I'm still very troubled that
all of that happened, because what it told me about
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human nature is cowardice is far more common than bravery.
And what it told me was a lot of people
will shut their mouths if they think anything negative might
happen to them, even if they know what's going on
is wrong. And I, back in those days, would regularly
(40:30):
come on my show and I would call out rich
people because I got so angry. I understand. I don't
think it's fair. I don't think it's right. It makes
me sick to my stomach. But I understood in twenty twenty,
if you had a job, you were trying to get
(40:53):
your kid into college, you had a mortgage to pay,
and you just said, I can't can't afford to lose
this job. I understand why a lot of those people
were afraid to speak out because they had no power.
And that's why, really, starting about twenty twenty, when I
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would see people out in public, and certainly since I've
started doing this show with Buck in twenty twenty twenty
twenty one, what people would come up and say to
me was you say what I wish I could say?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
And as a guy who did sports, I never had
heard that before because it's sports, right, Like, who cares?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
But if I say that your team's gonna win the
Super Bowl or lose the Super Bowl, or win the
National Championship or not win the National Championship, ver bad.
That was a bad call. I love it, but it's
the toy chest of life. Unless you're on the team,
own the team, or are in some way directly compensated
by the team, whoever wins a championship doesn't probably change
(42:07):
your life that much. But in twenty twenty during COVID,
during BLM, when they tried to put President Trump in
prison for the rest of his life, that stuff really
does matter.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
And so I.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Understood if you were out there and you were struggling
and you just wanted to pay your mortgage and you
just wanted to get your kids into school, and you
would get on social media and you would think, man,
I really want to say something. I bet a lot
of you wrote something on Facebook. I bet a lot
of you wrote something on Twitter or Instagram or maybe
even an email that you were thinking about sending inside
of your company, and then you hit the lead because
(42:47):
you said, I can't afford to lose my job. And
your primary job as a dad or a mom, in
my opinion, is to provide for your family. Everything else
is secondary. So I understood why those people, why many
of y'all out there, I have been in this world before.
(43:09):
I understood why a lot of people hit the lead.
The people that I still have a lot of contempt
for are the people who were filthy rich, said they
agreed with everything that I said, and then never spoke
out Because I got to be honest with y'all. If
you have fu money, if you have money where you're
(43:33):
never gonna have to worry about paying a mortgage. You
got a second home, you got a third home, you
got fancy cars, you got kids that you can stroke
a check for to go to any college in the country.
Your cowardice made me sick, and I saw it everywhere.
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People who run companies, people who never had to worry
about anything financially for the rest.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Of their life, they turned tail.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
They to me, were the biggest cowards because they were
the kind of people who said fire fire, Grant Napier
for saying all lives matter, every single one. And frankly,
I'm never going to forgive those people because a lot
of them now they're front runners, they're cheerleaders. Yay, we
(44:29):
get a tax cut. Boy, I'm glad Trump won. Where
were you when it mattered? I think about this all
the time. Where were you when there were consequences, when
there were cost when somebody might not have set you
on whatever flipping charity board you're on.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Where were you? You were a yellow bellied coward.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
You let sit sas like Grant Napier happen everywhere, and
you didn't do a damn thing. So money is only
useful in the context of what it allows you to
do that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do. There's
a great line. This is why when everybody drafts new quarterbacks,
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what they care about so much is how much do
you love what you do? Because as soon as you
get that fifty million dollar check, there's pretty girls everywhere,
there's fancy cars, there's really great vacations. If you don't
love what you're doing, money will make you more of
(45:46):
what you already are. If you are a die hard,
I'm getting up and I am grinding, and I'm gonna
bust my ass. You sell a company, you sign a
fifty million dollar deal, you do the same thing you
were doing before you got them. But if you're the
kind of person who looks around worries all the time
(46:06):
about what people are going to say about you, you
become even more of a coward the more money you get.
And there are so many of those people out there,
and I think about them. The Grant Napier story is
a good one. Most of us are never going to
have billions of dollars. We're not going to own radio stations,
(46:29):
we're not going to own companies that when they come
to you with an employee sending a tweet, it's your
decision what to do. But a lot of people had that.
And now that Trump's in office, they're waving the pom
poms and they're running around and they're cheering. I don't
care who wants to celebrate after a victory. I want
(46:53):
to know who's going to be there when you get
your ass kicked, because that's character, that's courage. And Grant
Apier's story, Oh, there's an awful lot of people who
will send you a text or make a phone call
and say, boy, I feel really bad for you. Yeah, that,
you know would be great. As if you would say
that public, well I can't do that, well, they might
(47:16):
be mad at me. Then so many people who knew better,
and so many people who had the resources to have
nobody ever actually be able to do anything to them.
They were nowhere to be found when it mattered most.
And now guess what, you look up and some of
those people are some of the biggest cheerleaders because Trump's
(47:39):
back in office. Now, just remember it, and remember how
quickly those front runners will fade as soon as somebody
else is in power, and as soon as somebody else
makes them a little bit uncomfortable and requires any element
of courage to speak out against what they believe is wrong.
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Just think about it. We're gonna keep talking about this.
We got a great guess cap by the way, coming
your way in the third hour, talk about the cultural impact,
and I'm gonna dive in and even kind of talk
about this a bit more.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
But in the meantime, people with.
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I bet a lot of the people out there that
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Speaker 3 (49:30):
I thought this was a fun topic. I was reading
this morning getting ready for all the prep. By the way, Buck,
we'll be back with me Monday. He's in the Highlands
through the weekend with his family, so he's texted me
that he's met a lot of you, and so thanks
for everybody who's being super kind to him. And thanks,
by the way to Extra one. OZH six point three
are Atlanta, Georgia area affiliate. I'm going to watch the
(49:52):
Atlanta Braves with my family for the weekend. It has
not been a great season. I know that Ian Miller
is a big Dodgers fan. It has been a good
Dodger season. Maybe wants to talk trash about that. But
I was reading your piece this morning as I was
getting ready, Ian and Ian Wright said OutKick owned by
Fox News now, but that I founded and Ian my
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kids love, and my family has long loved all the
superhero movies. I've got three boys. I've seen every superhero
movie in the theaters. It feels like to me, Avengers
Endgame happened, and it was the two part finale, and frankly,
it was pretty fantastic.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
It was really well done, and ever since then people
have basically decided superhero movies were finished with them.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Is that a bad take? Fair take?
Speaker 3 (50:42):
How would you analyze this and what is American response
to these movies in your mind?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Telling us about the larger culture?
Speaker 11 (50:52):
Well, first of all, always happy to talk trash about
the Dodgers being the braves whenever necessary. But as far
as the superhero movies go, I think you're exactly right.
After Avengers Endgame, there's this dramatic shift, and I think
you can kind of point it to Marvel completely changing
their philosophy of what characters they wanted to present, how
they wanted to present them. So you can go back
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and look at the list of movies they've released since
twenty twenty, it's things like Black Widow, Shuan chi Eternals,
you know, Ant Man three, the Marvels, things like that,
and they've flopped. I mean, it's been one disaster after another.
There's been a couple of successes mixed in there, but
for the large part, it's been really these movies that
have just not done very well. And I think they've
(51:33):
kind of had these checkboxes of targets. They wanted to
hit people. They wanted to target these movies too, and
it hasn't panned out. And I think that there is
a fatigue now and people have really kind of tuned
them out in the American culture, and then people are
sick and tired of going to the movies not knowing
if they're going to get some kind of unexpected political lecture.
And was supposed to be a summer fun popcorn movie.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Have you seen the Newest Superman?
Speaker 11 (51:59):
I haven't. Actually no, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I haven't either.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
My wife and youngest son went and watched it and
they said that it was not particularly woke. But James Gunn,
the director, said that the movie was political. Before he
came out, he said it was an immigration story, so
he said, of course it's political, and I think it
stripped a lot of what otherwise would have been maybe
(52:22):
positivity for the movie away. And you dove into the
math because a lot of people don't dive into the math.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
You're a smart guy.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
The reason I first became aware of you was you
were porting out the math of you Live in la
and how COVID was absolutely handled in just an indefensible
management manner by California. And we may circle back on
that in a sec. But what is the math on Superman.
It's headed for losing money, even though most people aren't
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really breaking it down.
Speaker 11 (52:52):
Yeah, and I think that's you hit it me on
the head again with Gun's comments. It was just so
unnecessary and bizarre. And I think even though the movie
was particularly political, it made it political, and you know,
it hasn't done that poorly domestically. But what we've seen
is that, you know, maybe if it costs itself, maybe
there were two million people that were going to go
see it we're on the fence and didn't because of
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what Gunn said. Well, that's two million people that didn't
buy twenty dollars movie tickets and so on and so forth,
and it adds up over time. And right now where
it's tracking is that it's probably going to lose somewhere
around the you know, seventy to eighty one hundred million
dollars globally because you know, the production budget is so high,
the advertising budget is so high. It had to make
around seven hundred million dollars globally to break even. It's
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not going to do that. And when you adjust for inflation.
It's done significantly worse than Man of Steel, which was
kind of the last big Superman movie that came out,
which is twenty thirteen. So it just it's an unnecessary
comment that I think turned people off to seeing it
that were otherwise had no reason not to go see it.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
I talked earlier Ian about the culture of sports. We
talked to Grant and Aper who was out in California
where you live, lost his job for simply saying, all
lives matter, every single one. Certainly, there's been a great
deal of discussion about Sidney Sweeney. I don't know if
you've happened to see all of the sec sorority recruitment
videos that are going wildly viral now, including very patriotic ones,
(54:18):
even living in California. Do you sense that we have
seen a profound cultural shift or are you skeptical?
Speaker 9 (54:27):
No?
Speaker 11 (54:27):
I definitely do think there has been a cultural shift,
and it's especially among I think younger generations that you
had for so many years, this kind of political movement
that woke, for lack of a better word, that wanted
to like stamp out fun and just being able to
enjoy yourself without apologizing for it. And I think the
younger generations have finally tuned that out. I think there
was about a ten to fifteen year window where people
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were kind of listening to that and how people are
tired of it and thank God for it, and I
think that's part of the reason why these movies have failed.
And once you kind of lose the benefit of the
doubt of the consumer, it's very hard to get it back.
And that cultural shift is part of it. People have
changed how they view movies, how they view entertainment, what
they want to get out of entertainment, and you know,
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when you're not providing that, you're not going to do well.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
And that's what we've.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Seen twenty twenty eight. It's early.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
We may still end up with Gavin Newsom against Governor
Ron DeSantis. It does feel to me like that is
the most evidently opposite political perspectives from a governatorial perspective
right now, right what Florida did during COVID, the way
that they have run their state, what California did during COVID,
(55:35):
the way that Gavin Newsom has run his state. As
someone living in California, are more people acknowledging that Gavin
Newsom got it wrong when you're moving around in social circles.
Or do you think people in California now, rather than
admit they got things wrong, are just pretending COVID never
happened and moving on.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
What is the vibe there?
Speaker 11 (55:57):
Yeah, I think it's a bit of a mixed bag
where there are some people that are just pretending it
never happened, and there are, but there are a number
of people that kind of were on the political left
that have acknowledged, you know, we got this wrong. I
think Newsom's approval ratings have been underwater, even in California
and one of the most hardcore blue states, because he's
done such a bad job, and that contrast could not
be more stark with COVID. But it's also with everything.
(56:19):
Like if there's a natural disaster in Florida, rond de
Santis has got everything prepared ahead of time, the response
is immaculate, it's immediate, and things are fixed quickly and
people are back up and running within a matter of days.
In California, we have just this spectacular incompetence where everything
is slow, nothing gets done quickly, the responses are never
(56:39):
planned ahead of time. Obviously, we had the disastrous fires
in La in January, and the recovery has been a
train wreck. And it's just that exemplifies what has happened
with Newsom versus in California and the failure in Blue
states compared to what we've seen in Florida.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Jennifer Say is a friend of mine. She's founded a
clothing company xx x Y Athletics. Some of you may
have seen it. She used to work at Levi's, which
was based in San Francisco. And since I was just
asking you about COVID, I know you were fired up
about this. Ian As a dad, I spoke out immensely
about the importance of schools being reopened. I continue to
(57:13):
meet so many kids out there that had their schools
shut down. I met a kid up at the University
of Chicago recently went to school in California. He said, yeah,
we left in March. I was a junior in high
school and I never came back again, and so he
only saw his classmates again at graduation. You think about
(57:34):
what happens when you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Jennifer
has made a documentary and I would encourage you guys
to watch this, but Ian, I want to play it
for you, and then I want to get your reaction
to whether we have had what should have been a
full sort of reconciliation in some way for the disaster
of shutting down schools. But this book focuses on kid
(57:55):
This documentary focuses on kids. It has been completed, full disclosure.
I donated money to help make it. But I think
it is really really good. Here is cut five. This
is a new film documenting the impact of COVID lockdowns
on kids.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Just listen to this audio.
Speaker 11 (58:14):
Western democracy has been replaced with a biosecurity state laws.
Speaker 9 (58:19):
Restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues
where groups of people congregate should be closed.
Speaker 10 (58:26):
I expected it to only be for like two weeks
and then we get back to school.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
At the time, it felt great, and then surely.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Enough it started to be very worrying.
Speaker 10 (58:36):
I had a planned to myself and I thought about
it every day.
Speaker 11 (58:40):
You cannot treat kids like prisoners and expecting to be okay.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
The memories that we have bossed, the experiences that we
have watched, the skills that we have watched, and now
we have to regain marriage and go out into the world.
There has to be an honest discussion about what went on.
Is this something that my generation will not forget?
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Me?
Speaker 1 (59:05):
This is also something that my generation will not.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Forgive It's really powerful. And again the film is called
Generation COVID. When I travel around and I spend a
lot of time on college campuses, I don't think we
are talking enough about the anger of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
twenty year old kids who had years of their life
(59:30):
taken away for a virus that bore them no threat
at all. They're profoundly angry. I think it's one reason
young men in particular have moved so aggressively towards Trump.
Do you sense that, Ian, Because I really do, and
I don't think it's talked about hardly at all.
Speaker 11 (59:48):
I completely agree. I think that it's absolutely one of
the biggest explanations for how the culture has shifted, how
young men have shifted. You know, they had their youth
kind of taken away from them. Listening to that Anthony
Fauci out there is that's the perfect example where you
had this one man who was making kind of dictatorial
statements about what should happen, never really presenting any evidence
(01:00:09):
for it and then never correcting himself or apologizing when
he found out he was wrong. And because you know,
you had these these restrictions going for years and years
and years, and children were incredibly harmed by this, and
there was never any discussion. If there's never been any
discussion of it, it's that we were saying about California.
People just want to forget that it happened. But the
people that live through it have not forgotten, and they're
not going to forget. And I think it's going to
(01:00:29):
change their lives forever with how they view politics or
they view government, how they view these restrictions. And you know,
I think we we have not really fully reckoned with
it because we don't want to. We don't want to
admit what we did to that generation and how it's
going to impact them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Ian appreciate the work. Tell people how they can find
you out there. But good stuff on diving into the
math behind some of these movies and continuing to fight
for basic sanity when it comes to data.
Speaker 11 (01:00:58):
Thanks for having me, Clay ye right and now kick
every day and on Twitter just be an MSc.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Thanks a lot for having me it's awesome.
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Have you heard of the Rio Reset?
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, it.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Can he give us some inside intel?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The world is moving on from the dollar. Quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account,
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Speaker 3 (01:43):
Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Let's
have some fun. We're stacking wins in every direction. It
is the three year anniversary of the Mara Lago raid.
For those of you who remember that day. I don't
think it's consequential that we have some breaking news today
(02:06):
on Department of Justice investigations. We are going to talk
about that and how all of these things roll together.
We got a couple of really interesting guests. Grant Napier
for those of you out in the Sacramento area, Grant
was the play by play voice of the Sacramento Kings,
the NBA franchise out there. They fired him during the
(02:29):
days of BLM for simply tweeting all Lives Matter. It's
one of the most ridiculous cancelations that happened in a
several year span filled with many different ridiculous cancelations. Good
news he has got a new job. But I do
think that story is important to reflect upon, and I
(02:51):
think you will like the direction that Ed has taken
as a redemptive arc. We'll talk about that a little
bit in the second hour. He is set to join
us in the third hour. The sort of Hollywood woke
industrial complex is collapsing, and that's occurring even in superhero movies,
which used to be the flourishing elements of the Hollywood
(03:17):
establishment that was what made all their money. What's going
on there? Ian Miller has got an interesting piece about
the finances behind big Hollywood failures even in superhero movies,
and I thought that was kind of a fun Friday
right before we head out about two thirty near the
end of the show. The culture here is paramount, and
(03:39):
I think what we're seeing is so many different culture wins,
and much of what happened over what I would say
the woke era of the last decade that started. My
big theory here is this started all around the time
that social media took off and that suddenly everybody had
(03:59):
instantaneous news and video on their phones. I think it
drove the entire country crazy. And I think there is
more and more of an acknowledgment of this across the
political spectrum, particularly as it pertains to young people, where
basically every school in America is suddenly circling around and saying, boy,
it was crazy that we were letting kids sit around
(04:21):
in classrooms on social media texting all day long. And
I really think that there is going to be an
examination of the social media just sort of induction into
this country and all of the toxicity that it unleashed
and all of the falsehoods that it allowed to be
(04:44):
embedded in the United States, in particular because the algorithms
being run out of Silicon Valley were so far left
wing that suddenly Americans thought the entire country was like
the faculty lounge of a Portland area college. And I
(05:05):
think what you've seen is a mass rejection of the
insanity and a return in many ways to common sense.
And so I'm going to break all this down. We
got a lot of fun scheduled for you during the
course of the show. Buck is in the mountains I
believe of North Carolina, not Ashville, but somewhere in the
vicinity of Ashville, and he texted this morning that he
(05:27):
is meeting many of our listeners there and that he
is in a very pro Clay and Buck community. I
think Buck is still scarred from living in New York City.
Producer Ali will remember this when I took him to
the Ole Miss Alabama game, and he had never been
to a college football game as a kid, you know,
(05:48):
grew up in New York City. He's always basically under
siege as a New York City Conservative, as a New
York City Republican voter. And I think he's still a
little bit in shock by how other parts of the
country are to him. I don't know if anybody else
gets that sent since, but Ali, do you remember how
Buck just couldn't believe how incredibly nice everybody was. He'd
(06:10):
never been to the state of Alabama before, he'd never
been to a college football game. And everywhere we went,
people coming up to us, big fans of the show,
big fans of the fact that he was visiting and
going to his first college football game. And I was like,
a whole different universe that he had never seen before.
And I know you live in New York City too,
but did you get that sense? And he still is.
(06:30):
He goes around to these other parts of the country,
He's like, man, you know, people really are nice outside
of New York City when it comes to Noah's body
being punked.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
At first, he was like, I.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Could get used to this.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes, yes, it is like when you actually get outside
of New York in LA. And I know we got
a lot of listeners in New York and LA. But
this is why, to me, college football fans are the
backbone of American extraordinary awesomeness. And so I trust you,
even if you happen to have the gall or absolute
(07:05):
ridiculousness to vote for teams that they're playing against. My
University of Tennessee buck is in the Highlands. I think
that's a broad area. I always hate to say for
specific vacation time, Oh he's this exact location or whatever,
but that is where he is, and he says everybody
is fabulous to him. So if you happen to be
(07:26):
in that area, you might well see Buck walking around
with his wife and their little baby. So he is out.
He will be back on Monday. But I wanted to
dive into this three year anniversary of the raid on
mar A Lago. And it is not coincidental that as
I sit down to talk to all of you Fox
(07:46):
News first on Fox, I'm reading from their Twitter account.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Attorney General Pam Bondi has authorized a special prosecutor, Ed Martin.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And pause here.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
This is the Ed Martin that many of you will
remember we had on program because Democrats refuse to elevate
him to be the US Attorney for Washington, d C.
And so as a result, President Trump put in place
Judge Janine Piro, who is teeming off left and right
over the crime rate in DC. And we'll talk about
(08:17):
that more during the course of the program. But Ed
Martin is now in as a special prosecutor to investigate
allegations of mortgage fraud involving Adam Schiff, Senator from California,
and Leticia James, the Attorney General of New York who
prosecuted Trump. That is, according to Peter douce Ed Martin
(08:40):
was on with us May eighth. That is an incredible
decision and I think will work out phenomenally well. We
also have news that a grand jury investigation has also
been opened in New York into Leticia James and her
behavior surrounding the decision to come after Trump for civil
(09:04):
forfeiture relating to bank loans and all of that. I
believe she got a verdict of four hundred and fifty
million dollars something in that universe, so that in and
of itself is also turning into a big story. But
I wanted to take us back in time a little
bit because I believe this is when Trump won the
Republican nomination for president, and I think historically this is
(09:28):
going to be seen as one of the biggest own goals,
one of the most self inflicted wounds. I think as
soon as Biden and his Department of Justice decided to
try to put Trump in prison, they actually put Trump
back into the White House. I think it would have
been if they had not prosecuted. I think they would
(09:49):
have been in a better position in the twenty twenty
four election. But three days after the mar A Lago raid,
so this is a flashback. A couple of days after
the raid, Merrick Garland finally had a press conference and said,
this is rating the former president of the United States.
Is a faithful adherence to the rule of law, and
(10:11):
there is no politics involved in this at all. Remember,
Merrick Garland himself signed off on an unprecedented raid of
the former president's home at Merrick Mara A Lago. Here's
cut one.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Faithful adherence to the rule of law is the bedrock
principle of the Justice Department and of our democracy. Upholding
the rule of law means applying the law evenly, without
fear or favor under my watch. That is precisely what
the Justice Department is doing. There are, however, certain points
(10:45):
I want you to know. First, I personally approve the
decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. Second,
the Department does not take such a decision lightly where
possible in a standard practice to seek less intrusive means
as an alternative to a search and to narrowly scope
any search that is undertaken.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
All Right, this very interesting in and of itself, because
I believe, without a doubt this is what put Trump
into the White House. And I also want to play
a couple of additional cuts that surround this. This was
everyone out there trying to tell you, hey, there's actually
(11:31):
nothing at all unacceptable about this raid. This is completely
and totally normal. This was again three years ago to
the date when I believe Trump officially became the nominee.
Here we go with let's see cut three, former federal
(11:51):
prosecutor Daniel Goodman saying, we need to recognize and praise
Merrick Garland for following the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Here's cut three.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Garland, who has said very consistently, much to the frustration
of some on the left, that he is following the facts,
and he's following the law wherever it goes. And so
he took this action because he had probable cause to
do so. And I'm sure he took this action because
it was a significant and necessary move as part of
(12:21):
this investigation. And if he doesn't take this action because
of the backlash, then it is a political decision. So
we need to recognize and praise Merrick Garland for following
the rule of law.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh my goodness, I mean now that we know also
just how much of a sham it was we thought
at the time. Remember they took the photos of the
classified documents on the ground. They even went through Malanya's
underwear drawer. I mean, this was absolutely bonkers. And now
that we have had that case tossed by thankfully the
(12:57):
federal District Court judge in South Florida, a lot of
people forget that case was even tossed in July of
twenty twenty four before Trump even won the election, because
it was found to be illegitimate. I do think it's
worthwhile going back and listening to what all of the
talking heads, the left wing londs said, including the now
(13:18):
canceled Stephen Colbert, this feels even a little bit more
delicious cut forth, we learned.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
The news of the FBI raid straight from the horse's
ass because the former president posted the news on social media.
These are dark times for our nation, as my beautiful home,
mar Al Lago and Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege,
raided and occupied by a large group of FBI agents.
Nothing like this has ever happened to a president of
the United States before?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, of course it hasn't.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
No president has ever been as criminal as you are.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Isn't it even more delicious that Stephen Colbert is gone
When you listen to a clip like that. He was
trying to tap down on what he thought was the
political grave of Donald Trump, he told his unfortunate audience,
and maybe we can grab I don't think this is
in the cuts, guys, but can we grab the audio?
I saw Buckery tweet this. Can we grab the audio
(14:14):
of John Oliver being upset at Jay Leno for saying
the job of comedy is to try to talk to
everyone and make fun of a variety of different groups,
and John Oliver just being like, no, it isn't. My
job is to be a left wing propagandist. It really
is amazing how Trump has broken the brains of so
(14:35):
many people in the comedic universe that I think, without
Trump may well have had much longer careers and certainly
would have had much more successful ones. And by the way,
one of those guys is Howard Stern. I saw the
guy was one of the most revolutionary, whatever you think
about him, one of the most revolutionary, aggressive, relentless in
(14:55):
his risk taking, and now he's turned in to a
complete and total pussy Willow. He's just a shill for
Big That interview he did with Joe Biden actually made
me uncomfortably ill trying to watch it because it was
such ridiculous propaganda. But we will talk about all that more. Plus,
(15:17):
Sydney Sweeney is still in the news. If you're in
Las Vegas, American Eagle not backing down. They put her
on that brand new massive sphere out there in her jeens.
New York Times has a story up about it. They
quote me in it. I mentioned that I had talked
to the New York Times. Go figure. Their article is dishonest.
(15:39):
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Speaker 3 (16:50):
You guys know, I started off in the world of sports,
and the colleges are all returning to campus and during
the commercial break, I scrolling through checking to see what
all the latest news is. And I don't know how
many of you have seen these kind of stories. I
bet your kids and your grandkids have. As part of
(17:10):
recruitment for all the kids going back to schools, the
sororities are doing all sorts of sorority dance videos.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
One of our writers at OutKick.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Joe Kinzie, who does fabulous work there, posted a video
yesterday of one of the SEC sororities. It got eleven
million views on Twitter, and these things are trending everywhere.
And I was just joking because I just shared the
video that he shared on social media, and I'm I'm
kind of partly kidding about this, but it's going to
(17:45):
be harder in the future to get into SEC schools
than it is to get into Ivy League schools. Because
I tweet about this, and I'm about to bring in
Grant Napier and I want to get his story because
I think it all kind of ties in with the
cultural time shift that we're seeing. When I was a kid,
you basically had to have a pulse to get into
(18:06):
an SEC school. I graduated high school in nineteen ninety seven,
and I could have gotten into the University of Tennessee
maybe as a dead man. They probably would have admitted
me if I could have paid the tuition. Right now,
the University of Tennessee has a thirty eight percent at
mid rate.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Ole miss and.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
People in Mississippi are going to kind of know when you
had a kid that was a troublemaker and couldn't get
into any other school. You were like, all right, I
guess we'll send him to Ole Miss. It's hard to
get into Ole Miss. Now, kids in LA and Chicago
and New York City are cutting each other in their
admissions counselor offices to try to get an invite to Starkville, Mississippi.
(18:52):
I've never seen anything like this. Every southern big school
that plays football, every Q girl wants to go there,
and every guy who likes Q girls wants to go
there too. And there's a lot of those people all
over the country. But anyway, let's bring in Grant Napier.
I do think it's emblematic of the cultural shift that
we are seeing across the country. But I want to
(19:13):
go back in time, way way back in time to
five years ago, in the summer of twenty twenty. Grant
Napier with us now, and Grant, I just want you
to tell this audience your story because we talked about
it back in the day when I was doing my
sports talk radio show, and everybody kind of turned their
backs on you. But tell me, just kind of take
(19:35):
for this audience, tell them what was going on with
you in the summer of twenty twenty, and what happened
to you? I'm just going to give you the floor.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
On May thirty, first of twenty twenty, I was sitting
in my living room watching TV and I got a
phone call from the head coach now of the Sacramento King,
Stug Christy, who is my co host on my radio show,
and he said, Napes, did you see de Marcus Cousin's tweet?
I said, no, I don't follow him. As a matter
(20:05):
of fact, I'm muted him. And he said you should
check it out. So I did, and it was at
Grant Nee Peer's show, what do you think of BLM?
And I said something like, hey, I haven't heard from
you in years. I thought you forgot about me. And
I responded with six words, all lives matter, every single
(20:26):
one in capital letters with three exclamation points. Well, all
of a sudden, I'm getting a lot of calls and messages.
Oh wow, I can't believe you said that. That was
Sunday night, at about six o'clock Tuesday afternoon. By two
forty I had been fired by a radio station that
(20:48):
I was at for twenty six years, same time slot
for twenty six years, highly rated show, and then I
resigned as the thirty two year TV voice of the
Sacramento Kings on that same day. That was five years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
This is I mean, I think it's important to remind
people of what was going on. So I want to
follow this back up. You tweeted in response to an
NBA player tweeting to you about black lives matter. All
lives matter, every single one, and you lost your radio job,
sports talk radio job of twenty six years, and your
(21:26):
thirty two year Sacramento Kings television announcing job was gone
as well. Okay, that is I mean, it is really
very staggering. What was the response, both publicly and privately
to all of that happening to you in the early
summer of twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Privately, people were outraged, they were blown away. I had
some of the biggest names in the sportscasting industry reach
out to me talking about how they couldn't believe it.
And then they were telling me that geez, they're going
to be nervous about saying something that maybe they shouldn't
or it's going to be misconstrued. But what was amazing
(22:07):
is every single one of them said, I would love
to speak up for you. Publicly, but I can't. They
were too afraid. That was what it was like. People
were too afraid to speak out and come to my
defense publicly. I had a lot of support, but unfortunately
this was one week after the murder of George Floyd.
You know what's crazy about this, Clay? Leading up to
(22:29):
that May thirty first, May twenty fifth was when George
Floyd was murdered. I mean, I had a lot of
positive tweets about what was going on, supporting everything that
was going on. Nobody spent five minutes to go back
and look at those tweets. It was like, oh, wait
a minute, we have to fire Grant Nepier. We have
(22:50):
to show black lives matter don't come after us. Oh no,
we fired a guy that said all lives matter. They panicked.
I mean, think about that. Clay, a thirty two year career,
a twenty six year career. I didn't have one thing
in either HR department with the Sacramento Kings or Bonaville International.
And here's something else that's interesting. If you go to
Bonnaville International right now, if you google Bonnaville International leadership
(23:12):
and you look at their leadership, every single person is
either a white male or a white female, No people
of color, no minorities. It's a freaking joke. It's an
absolute joke. And I was the scapegoat. I was the
sacrificial lamb to tell black lives matter. Hey, don't come
after us. We just fired a guy that said all
lives matter. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I remember covering it, and I believe we had you
on and we talked about the fact that this was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
There was almost nobody else that would say it.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Why what lessons sitting here five years later do you
think the country needs to take and to learn? What
would you hope? By the way, before we get into
the lessons, let's go to the reason. I was very
excited to see this. You now are coming back on
the air. Sacramento is one of the biggest audiences this
show has, so we appreciate everybody listening to us in California.
(24:03):
You are going to be back on the air after
five years doing sports talk radio in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Well, I'm very excited. It just kind of all happened
over the last couple of months. If you had ask
me a year ago, if I thought I'd be back
on Sacramento Radio. I would have said, no way. I've
been doing a podcast. I started doing a podcast in
October of twenty twenties, just a couple of months after
I was fired. And isn't it just crazy? My first
guest on my podcast, Charles Barkley, he didn't have a
(24:31):
problem with me saying all lives matter. I had Dusty
Baker on. I've had a lot of former Kings on
spud Web, Reggie Theas, I had the former head coach
Keith Smart on. I mean, I didn't go on and
on and on. They didn't have any problem with it.
It's just a joke. But I am going back September second.
I'm starting on Fox Sports Radio Sacramento. I'm very excited
(24:52):
about it. But you asked me a question about you know,
what have I learned in the last five years? You
know Zoobie music. Yeah, yeah, well over a million followers
on social media. And I wrote this down a couple
of years ago because I thought he deals in common sense.
He's like you, you know, you guys deal in common sense.
He wrote, Black lives matter because all lives matter, White
(25:15):
lives matter because all lives matter. All lives couldn't matter,
if black or white lives didn't matter or any others.
Stop being dumb and dividing over basic stuff we already
agree on. Here's what I've learned over the last five years.
I've been blessed to travel. I've been to Europe, I
frequently go to Thailand, and I've talked to a lot
of people from a lot of different cultures, different backgrounds,
(25:37):
different countries. We're the only people, I think, on the
planet that are even debating this and talking about this.
This is not a topic anywhere else in the world.
I don't understand why here we are in twenty twenty
five and there are people even on my social media
over the last twenty four hours, you know, talking about well,
gee didn't he learn you can't say all lives matter
(25:59):
and know those are very much in the minority. Those
were only a few people. But the point is there
are still some people in this country that think that
all lives matter is a racist comment. I don't get
that all lives matter, every single one doesn't have any
great area to me. All lives matter, every single one,
I would think is pretty self explanatory. But I think
Zoobie summarized it perfectly, so what have I learned in
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the last five years. I've learned that it's really only
an issue in America with the woke culture, and if
you're not politically correct, you're going to get attacked. I mean,
it's a joke. It's an absolute joke what I've gone through.
I've got great support. I don't have any problem putting
my head on the pillow at night. I'm grateful for
this opportunity to get back to Sacramento Radio. But again,
(26:44):
I don't know what the big deal is. And you know,
it's such a shame that in America. And I don't
want to go off on a tangent here, but everything's
about black and white. Why does it have to be
like that? Again, when I travel around the world and
talk to people from different cultures, it's not like that
there entirely, and which I love, and it's a great country.
They don't care what your ethnicity is, your religion, your
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sexual orientation. They're just good people. They're happy people, they work.
They don't even talk about this stuff. But in America
it's like a daily conversation. I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I think this is important conversation and I want to
go back to the difference between public and private commentary.
What I try to do, for better or worse, and
I screw up all the time on the show. I
can barely pronounce half the words that I try to
say on a day to day basispecially as anybody long
term listening would recognize, try to have fun with it.
But what I try to do is there's very little
(27:37):
difference between what I would say publicly and what I
would say privately. And I think that's why people have
never really been able grant to come after me, because
that's what I've done my whole career. I'm not saying
I'm perfect, but I'm just saying there is no gap.
If I go to this Atlanta Braves game tonight, which
I'm going to do with my kids, and you see
me there, what I would say to you in person
(27:58):
is the same thing that I would say on the radio. Now,
maybe occasionally I cursed at a sporting event, you know,
things like that, I have FCC restrictions here, so you know,
with that limited difference for you, what I found during
the BLM era, during COVID during the summer of twenty twenty,
all of that, so many people said to me privately,
(28:19):
I agree one hundred percent with everything you're saying, but
I'm afraid to say it publicly. And that's how the
world becomes. What happened to you is people know it's wrong,
but they're afraid of being targeted themselves. And I imagine
you saw better than most that dichotomy between what people
would say to you privately and what might be said publicly.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Totally, you're one hundred percent correct. And here's another aspect
of what I went through five years ago. So I
was fired. I had my career literally turned upside down
in thirty six hours. In the early two thousand, so
I started a foundation in Sacramento call the Future Foundation.
I had an annual golf tournament. And what we did
is we took underprivileged, at need students from high schools
in the Sacramento area. All Right, they had to fit
(29:03):
a certain criteria. These were first generational college students. I mean,
it was incredible my foundation that I raised the money for.
We put one hundred and four students into college and
through college, most of whom were minorities. Okay, nobody spent
five minutes and said who whoa whoa Whoaha, Wait a minute,
Look at what this guy's done for the community. Look
(29:24):
what he's done for the black community. I think we
had thirty eight students of color that I put through college.
It's like that didn't matter. It was just a knee jerk,
ridiculous action by the company that fired me. And I
agree with you about the private public thing. I think
things are different now, and I think people are much
more open about coming out and feeling confident about speaking
(29:47):
your opinion and what they believe in. But in twenty twenty,
people were paranoid. You know that, Clay, I mean people
that listen. If you were white, I'm just you know this,
If you were a white person in the media, okay,
you had to be walking on eight shells to go
out and say anything even remotely negative about Black Lives matter.
I mean, you would have been canceled. I was canceled, right,
(30:11):
I was canceled five years ago. I was part of
the cancel culture. And everyone knows it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, Look, Grant, congratulations on your new radio show in Sacramento. Again,
I know a lot of people out there listening to
us right now in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Know you well.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And I am glad that you are finally getting back
to doing what you do well. But I do think
it's a lesson of how the world lost its mind
in sports and otherwise, culture, politics, everywhere else. I appreciate
you making the time for us, and congrats on the
new show.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Well thanks for having me on. Bottom line, I'm happy,
I have no regrets, I'm all good, and I can't
wait for this next chapter. And I greatly respect you,
love your work, and thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He's Grant Napier and you can listen to him Sports
Soccer Radio in Sacramento, where he never should have been
off the air in the first place. We'll take some
reactions to that, and I do think his story is
emblematic of as we come up on the five year
anniversary of all that chaos, all the things that were
done wrong and what is being rejected now and all
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,
granted apier if you missed that right at the top
of the hour here in hour two Friday edition. I
do think it is really indicative. I want to have
a big conversation about this because I do think that
much of the ills that have been created in this
(32:48):
country are slowly being eradicated, and I think a lot
of it is directly connected to social media, and I've
been thinking a lot about this because culture and I
understand by the way, in the third hour, we're going
to talk about Hollywood movie some and I understand. Let
me give you a couple of updates because everything is
(33:08):
basically a court decision that happens every single day. Have
you noticed that almost every bit of opposition for Trump
is now court related, So it feels like every day
we have a different Department of Justice update, we have
a different Circuit Court update, district court update.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I never would have believed.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
When I went to law school twenty some odd years
ago that I would end up doing what I do
today and that so much of everything would boil down
to what judges are saying on a day to day basis.
But I do want to mention this because it is
a significant court ruling and it's in favor of Trump,
(33:47):
as most of these rulings frankly have been. And so
let me give this to you straight. This happened in
the last hour and a half or so. I mentioned
already that Pam Bondi authorized Special Prosecutor Ed Martin to
look into Senator Adam Schiff of California and Letitia James
relating to mortgage fraud. This is I'm reading directly from
(34:11):
Bill Malugin at Fox News. A federal appeals court has
reversed federal Judge James Boseberg's ruling of probable cause to
hold the Trump administration in contempt of court over the
deportation of Venezuelan illegal aliens to l Salvador via the
Alien Enemies Act. Legal win for Trump administration, and that
(34:34):
is very detailed, packed with legalies there, but basically what
it means is the president can put illegal immigrants on airplanes,
especially if they have violent records, and send them out
of the country, and individual judges don't have the power
(34:54):
to decide, hey, turn that plane around. You don't have
executive authority to do that. So this is the DC circuit.
This was one Judge Boseburg, who is basically decided that
he is the Trump opposition, the chief of the Trump
opposition in judicial robes sitting, not the full DC Circuit,
(35:20):
but a three judge panel has overturned that decision two
to one.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
So from here.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
And again, I never would have believe that this is
what I would go to law school and end up doing,
because I didn't think really that the courts would essentially
become our news stories on a day to day basis.
From here, there is either a full appeal to the
entire DC Circuit, all of them. There are a bunch
(35:48):
of judges there, or this would then go on to
the Supreme Court if it were in some way appealed,
and we would find out whether or not it is
able to that that ruling is able to stand. I'm
here to tell you it is not an individual federal
District court judge, as we told you when this happened,
does not have the power to say to the President
(36:11):
of the United States, turn that plane around and bring
it back to the country. That is crazy. The fact
that he attempted to do it is crazy. It is
not dissimilar to what happened in the Ninth Circuit when
you had I believe it was Judge Brier, a federal
District court judge there try to say Trump didn't have
(36:32):
the ability to call in the Guard to help with
all of the protests that were going on against Ice.
If the president can't call in state and National Guard,
and if he doesn't have the power when he sees
issues arising to put them down, then there is no
supremacy clause, and we told you this at the time.
(36:53):
Individual state governors cannot overrule the president of the United
States when it comes to issues relating to the National
Guard or to the State Guard. So anyway, all of
that has continued to be a battle. Trump is in
the right. All of the resistance two point zero is
not coming, by and large from the Democrat Party. It's
(37:14):
not coming from organized mass protests. There's been virtually none.
There is not the energy this term to be doing that,
even with likely money being spent by Trump's adversaries. So
it's basically federal district court judges who have decided we
don't like some of the decisions that Trump is making
and we are going to oppose them. So that happened
(37:36):
today Boseburg in DC being shot down by the three
judge panel that considered the ruling that he attempted to
put in place that would have limited President Trump's power. Okay,
now you just heard from Grant Napier, who was fired.
(37:56):
He said he spent thirty two years as the voice
of the Sacramento Kings, twenty six years doing sports, and
he lost his job for tweeting all lives matter, every
single one five years later. Credit to Fox Sports Radio Sacramento.
He is being given back his ability to talk about
(38:19):
sports on the radio. But I don't know if there
is a better story out there than Grant Napiers to
illustrate just how crazy the country went and how crazy
sports went. I did a story, and I was one
of the few people who would actually speak out in
(38:39):
favor of Grant, because Bucket likes to joke about this sometimes.
But when you attack me, I double or triple or
quadruple down. I don't tiptoe up. I don't step back
and say, hey, I'm sorry, I was wrong here. I
knew in real time as most people did. Firing somebody
(39:02):
for tweeting all lives matter, every single one is indefensible.
It is indisputably true, and it is not racist, and
it is not worthy of someone losing their job, a
job that they had done well for thirty two years
and twenty six years. Most people knew that most people
(39:26):
were cowards. And this is how Buck and I met
because Buck was similar in that he didn't back down
surrounding COVID. He didn't back down surrounding BLM, and neither
did I. And what has often disappointed me. And I'm
(39:46):
glad that we're in the payback stage where so many
people who made so many awful decisions are now being
rejected being held accountable. But I'm still very troubled that
all of that happened, because what it told me about
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human nature is cowardice is far more common than bravery.
And what it told me was a lot of people
will shut their mouths if they think anything negative might
happen to them, even if they know what's going on
is wrong. And I, back in those days, would regularly
(40:30):
come on my show and I would call out rich
people because I got so angry. I understand. I don't
think it's fair. I don't think it's right. It makes
me sick to my stomach. But I understood in twenty twenty,
if you had a job, you were trying to get
(40:53):
your kid into college, you had a mortgage to pay,
and you just said, I can't can't afford to lose
this job. I understand why a lot of those people
were afraid to speak out because they had no power.
And that's why, really, starting about twenty twenty, when I
(41:16):
would see people out in public, and certainly since I've
started doing this show with Buck in twenty twenty twenty
twenty one, what people would come up and say to
me was you say what I wish I could say?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
And as a guy who did sports, I never had
heard that before because it's sports, right, Like, who cares?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
But if I say that your team's gonna win the
Super Bowl or lose the Super Bowl, or win the
National Championship or not win the National Championship, ver bad.
That was a bad call. I love it, but it's
the toy chest of life. Unless you're on the team,
own the team, or are in some way directly compensated
by the team, whoever wins a championship doesn't probably change
(42:07):
your life that much. But in twenty twenty during COVID,
during BLM, when they tried to put President Trump in
prison for the rest of his life, that stuff really
does matter.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
And so I.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Understood if you were out there and you were struggling
and you just wanted to pay your mortgage and you
just wanted to get your kids into school, and you
would get on social media and you would think, man,
I really want to say something. I bet a lot
of you wrote something on Facebook. I bet a lot
of you wrote something on Twitter or Instagram or maybe
even an email that you were thinking about sending inside
of your company, and then you hit the lead because
(42:47):
you said, I can't afford to lose my job. And
your primary job as a dad or a mom, in
my opinion, is to provide for your family. Everything else
is secondary. So I understood why those people, why many
of y'all out there, I have been in this world before.
(43:09):
I understood why a lot of people hit the lead.
The people that I still have a lot of contempt
for are the people who were filthy rich, said they
agreed with everything that I said, and then never spoke
out Because I got to be honest with y'all. If
you have fu money, if you have money where you're
(43:33):
never gonna have to worry about paying a mortgage. You
got a second home, you got a third home, you
got fancy cars, you got kids that you can stroke
a check for to go to any college in the country.
Your cowardice made me sick, and I saw it everywhere.
(43:55):
People who run companies, people who never had to worry
about anything financially for the rest.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Of their life, they turned tail.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
They to me, were the biggest cowards because they were
the kind of people who said fire fire, Grant Napier
for saying all lives matter, every single one. And frankly,
I'm never going to forgive those people because a lot
of them now they're front runners, they're cheerleaders. Yay, we
(44:29):
get a tax cut. Boy, I'm glad Trump won. Where
were you when it mattered? I think about this all
the time. Where were you when there were consequences, when
there were cost when somebody might not have set you
on whatever flipping charity board you're on.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Where were you? You were a yellow bellied coward.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
You let sit sas like Grant Napier happen everywhere, and
you didn't do a damn thing. So money is only
useful in the context of what it allows you to
do that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do. There's
a great line. This is why when everybody drafts new quarterbacks,
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what they care about so much is how much do
you love what you do? Because as soon as you
get that fifty million dollar check, there's pretty girls everywhere,
there's fancy cars, there's really great vacations. If you don't
love what you're doing, money will make you more of
(45:46):
what you already are. If you are a die hard,
I'm getting up and I am grinding, and I'm gonna
bust my ass. You sell a company, you sign a
fifty million dollar deal, you do the same thing you
were doing before you got them. But if you're the
kind of person who looks around worries all the time
(46:06):
about what people are going to say about you, you
become even more of a coward the more money you get.
And there are so many of those people out there,
and I think about them. The Grant Napier story is
a good one. Most of us are never going to
have billions of dollars. We're not going to own radio stations,
(46:29):
we're not going to own companies that when they come
to you with an employee sending a tweet, it's your
decision what to do. But a lot of people had that.
And now that Trump's in office, they're waving the pom
poms and they're running around and they're cheering. I don't
care who wants to celebrate after a victory. I want
(46:53):
to know who's going to be there when you get
your ass kicked, because that's character, that's courage. And Grant
Apier's story, Oh, there's an awful lot of people who
will send you a text or make a phone call
and say, boy, I feel really bad for you. Yeah, that,
you know would be great. As if you would say
that public, well I can't do that, well, they might
(47:16):
be mad at me. Then so many people who knew better,
and so many people who had the resources to have
nobody ever actually be able to do anything to them.
They were nowhere to be found when it mattered most.
And now guess what, you look up and some of
those people are some of the biggest cheerleaders because Trump's
(47:39):
back in office. Now, just remember it, and remember how
quickly those front runners will fade as soon as somebody
else is in power, and as soon as somebody else
makes them a little bit uncomfortable and requires any element
of courage to speak out against what they believe is wrong.
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Just think about it. We're gonna keep talking about this.
We got a great guess cap by the way, coming
your way in the third hour, talk about the cultural impact,
and I'm gonna dive in and even kind of talk
about this a bit more.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
But in the meantime, people with.
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Speaker 3 (49:30):
I thought this was a fun topic. I was reading
this morning getting ready for all the prep. By the way, Buck,
we'll be back with me Monday. He's in the Highlands
through the weekend with his family, so he's texted me
that he's met a lot of you, and so thanks
for everybody who's being super kind to him. And thanks,
by the way to Extra one. OZH six point three
are Atlanta, Georgia area affiliate. I'm going to watch the
(49:52):
Atlanta Braves with my family for the weekend. It has
not been a great season. I know that Ian Miller
is a big Dodgers fan. It has been a good
Dodger season. Maybe wants to talk trash about that. But
I was reading your piece this morning as I was
getting ready, Ian and Ian Wright said OutKick owned by
Fox News now, but that I founded and Ian my
(50:13):
kids love, and my family has long loved all the
superhero movies. I've got three boys. I've seen every superhero
movie in the theaters. It feels like to me, Avengers
Endgame happened, and it was the two part finale, and frankly,
it was pretty fantastic.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
It was really well done, and ever since then people
have basically decided superhero movies were finished with them.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Is that a bad take? Fair take?
Speaker 3 (50:42):
How would you analyze this and what is American response
to these movies in your mind?
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Telling us about the larger culture?
Speaker 11 (50:52):
Well, first of all, always happy to talk trash about
the Dodgers being the braves whenever necessary. But as far
as the superhero movies go, I think you're exactly right.
After Avengers Endgame, there's this dramatic shift, and I think
you can kind of point it to Marvel completely changing
their philosophy of what characters they wanted to present, how
they wanted to present them. So you can go back
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and look at the list of movies they've released since
twenty twenty, it's things like Black Widow, Shuan chi Eternals,
you know, Ant Man three, the Marvels, things like that,
and they've flopped. I mean, it's been one disaster after another.
There's been a couple of successes mixed in there, but
for the large part, it's been really these movies that
have just not done very well. And I think they've
(51:33):
kind of had these checkboxes of targets. They wanted to
hit people. They wanted to target these movies too, and
it hasn't panned out. And I think that there is
a fatigue now and people have really kind of tuned
them out in the American culture, and then people are
sick and tired of going to the movies not knowing
if they're going to get some kind of unexpected political lecture.
And was supposed to be a summer fun popcorn movie.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Have you seen the Newest Superman?
Speaker 11 (51:59):
I haven't. Actually no, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I haven't either.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
My wife and youngest son went and watched it and
they said that it was not particularly woke. But James Gunn,
the director, said that the movie was political. Before he
came out, he said it was an immigration story, so
he said, of course it's political, and I think it
stripped a lot of what otherwise would have been maybe
(52:22):
positivity for the movie away. And you dove into the
math because a lot of people don't dive into the math.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
You're a smart guy.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
The reason I first became aware of you was you
were porting out the math of you Live in la
and how COVID was absolutely handled in just an indefensible
management manner by California. And we may circle back on
that in a sec. But what is the math on Superman.
It's headed for losing money, even though most people aren't
(52:50):
really breaking it down.
Speaker 11 (52:52):
Yeah, and I think that's you hit it me on
the head again with Gun's comments. It was just so
unnecessary and bizarre. And I think even though the movie
was particularly political, it made it political, and you know,
it hasn't done that poorly domestically. But what we've seen
is that, you know, maybe if it costs itself, maybe
there were two million people that were going to go
see it we're on the fence and didn't because of
(53:13):
what Gunn said. Well, that's two million people that didn't
buy twenty dollars movie tickets and so on and so forth,
and it adds up over time. And right now where
it's tracking is that it's probably going to lose somewhere
around the you know, seventy to eighty one hundred million
dollars globally because you know, the production budget is so high,
the advertising budget is so high. It had to make
around seven hundred million dollars globally to break even. It's
(53:34):
not going to do that. And when you adjust for inflation.
It's done significantly worse than Man of Steel, which was
kind of the last big Superman movie that came out,
which is twenty thirteen. So it just it's an unnecessary
comment that I think turned people off to seeing it
that were otherwise had no reason not to go see it.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
I talked earlier Ian about the culture of sports. We
talked to Grant and Aper who was out in California
where you live, lost his job for simply saying, all
lives matter, every single one. Certainly, there's been a great
deal of discussion about Sidney Sweeney. I don't know if
you've happened to see all of the sec sorority recruitment
videos that are going wildly viral now, including very patriotic ones,
(54:18):
even living in California. Do you sense that we have
seen a profound cultural shift or are you skeptical?
Speaker 9 (54:27):
No?
Speaker 11 (54:27):
I definitely do think there has been a cultural shift,
and it's especially among I think younger generations that you
had for so many years, this kind of political movement
that woke, for lack of a better word, that wanted
to like stamp out fun and just being able to
enjoy yourself without apologizing for it. And I think the
younger generations have finally tuned that out. I think there
was about a ten to fifteen year window where people
(54:47):
were kind of listening to that and how people are
tired of it and thank God for it, and I
think that's part of the reason why these movies have failed.
And once you kind of lose the benefit of the
doubt of the consumer, it's very hard to get it back.
And that cultural shift is part of it. People have
changed how they view movies, how they view entertainment, what
they want to get out of entertainment, and you know,
(55:08):
when you're not providing that, you're not going to do well.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
And that's what we've.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Seen twenty twenty eight. It's early.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
We may still end up with Gavin Newsom against Governor
Ron DeSantis. It does feel to me like that is
the most evidently opposite political perspectives from a governatorial perspective
right now, right what Florida did during COVID, the way
that they have run their state, what California did during COVID,
(55:35):
the way that Gavin Newsom has run his state. As
someone living in California, are more people acknowledging that Gavin
Newsom got it wrong when you're moving around in social circles.
Or do you think people in California now, rather than
admit they got things wrong, are just pretending COVID never
happened and moving on.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
What is the vibe there?
Speaker 11 (55:57):
Yeah, I think it's a bit of a mixed bag
where there are some people that are just pretending it
never happened, and there are, but there are a number
of people that kind of were on the political left
that have acknowledged, you know, we got this wrong. I
think Newsom's approval ratings have been underwater, even in California
and one of the most hardcore blue states, because he's
done such a bad job, and that contrast could not
be more stark with COVID. But it's also with everything.
(56:19):
Like if there's a natural disaster in Florida, rond de
Santis has got everything prepared ahead of time, the response
is immaculate, it's immediate, and things are fixed quickly and
people are back up and running within a matter of days.
In California, we have just this spectacular incompetence where everything
is slow, nothing gets done quickly, the responses are never
(56:39):
planned ahead of time. Obviously, we had the disastrous fires
in La in January, and the recovery has been a
train wreck. And it's just that exemplifies what has happened
with Newsom versus in California and the failure in Blue
states compared to what we've seen in Florida.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Jennifer Say is a friend of mine. She's founded a
clothing company xx x Y Athletics. Some of you may
have seen it. She used to work at Levi's, which
was based in San Francisco. And since I was just
asking you about COVID, I know you were fired up
about this. Ian As a dad, I spoke out immensely
about the importance of schools being reopened. I continue to
(57:13):
meet so many kids out there that had their schools
shut down. I met a kid up at the University
of Chicago recently went to school in California. He said, yeah,
we left in March. I was a junior in high
school and I never came back again, and so he
only saw his classmates again at graduation. You think about
(57:34):
what happens when you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Jennifer
has made a documentary and I would encourage you guys
to watch this, but Ian, I want to play it
for you, and then I want to get your reaction
to whether we have had what should have been a
full sort of reconciliation in some way for the disaster
of shutting down schools. But this book focuses on kid
(57:55):
This documentary focuses on kids. It has been completed, full disclosure.
I donated money to help make it. But I think
it is really really good. Here is cut five. This
is a new film documenting the impact of COVID lockdowns
on kids.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Just listen to this audio.
Speaker 11 (58:14):
Western democracy has been replaced with a biosecurity state laws.
Speaker 9 (58:19):
Restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues
where groups of people congregate should be closed.
Speaker 10 (58:26):
I expected it to only be for like two weeks
and then we get back to school.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
At the time, it felt great, and then surely.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Enough it started to be very worrying.
Speaker 10 (58:36):
I had a planned to myself and I thought about
it every day.
Speaker 11 (58:40):
You cannot treat kids like prisoners and expecting to be okay.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
The memories that we have bossed, the experiences that we
have watched, the skills that we have watched, and now
we have to regain marriage and go out into the world.
There has to be an honest discussion about what went on.
Is this something that my generation will not forget?
Speaker 3 (59:04):
Me?
Speaker 1 (59:05):
This is also something that my generation will not.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Forgive It's really powerful. And again the film is called
Generation COVID. When I travel around and I spend a
lot of time on college campuses, I don't think we
are talking enough about the anger of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
twenty year old kids who had years of their life
(59:30):
taken away for a virus that bore them no threat
at all. They're profoundly angry. I think it's one reason
young men in particular have moved so aggressively towards Trump.
Do you sense that, Ian, Because I really do, and
I don't think it's talked about hardly at all.
Speaker 11 (59:48):
I completely agree. I think that it's absolutely one of
the biggest explanations for how the culture has shifted, how
young men have shifted. You know, they had their youth
kind of taken away from them. Listening to that Anthony
Fauci out there is that's the perfect example where you
had this one man who was making kind of dictatorial
statements about what should happen, never really presenting any evidence
(01:00:09):
for it and then never correcting himself or apologizing when
he found out he was wrong. And because you know,
you had these these restrictions going for years and years
and years, and children were incredibly harmed by this, and
there was never any discussion. If there's never been any
discussion of it, it's that we were saying about California.
People just want to forget that it happened. But the
people that live through it have not forgotten, and they're
not going to forget. And I think it's going to
(01:00:29):
change their lives forever with how they view politics or
they view government, how they view these restrictions. And you know,
I think we we have not really fully reckoned with
it because we don't want to. We don't want to
admit what we did to that generation and how it's
going to impact them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Ian appreciate the work. Tell people how they can find
you out there. But good stuff on diving into the
math behind some of these movies and continuing to fight
for basic sanity when it comes to data.
Speaker 11 (01:00:58):
Thanks for having me, Clay ye right and now kick
every day and on Twitter just be an MSc.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Thanks a lot for having me it's awesome.
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