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Trump Says What People Think 

President Donald Trump's crime reduction initiative in Washington, D.C., which has sparked intense backlash from left-wing commentators accusing him of federal overreach and authoritarianism. Clay and Buck dissect the media's reaction and highlight the irony of critics opposing efforts to make the nation's capital safer.

The hosts explore rising urban crime rates, citing firsthand accounts and statistics from cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, and Kansas City, and propose deploying National Guard troops as a potential solution. They emphasize the importance of law enforcement, incarceration of repeat offenders, and authentic political leadership in addressing violent crime.

TX AG Ken Paxton on Redistricting Battle 

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins the program to provide exclusive updates on the Texas redistricting battle, including legal actions against Democratic lawmakers who fled the state. Paxton outlines efforts to enforce quorum laws and criticizes the hypocrisy of Democrat-led states with heavily gerrymandered districts.

Would You Do This on a Date?

Clay and Buck share personal dating anecdotes, including a humorous story about a failed e-scooter date and a debate over the social faux pas of using gift certificates on first dates. The segment blends cultural commentary with relatable humor, resonating with both longtime listeners and new audiences.

Mamdani is Everyone's Worst Nightmare

Top Political Headlines include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt confirming a major diplomatic meeting between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Anchorage, Alaska. The hosts also dissect the latest economic news, celebrating a 2.7% inflation rate and record highs across the Nasdaq, S&P 500, and Dow Jones—crediting Trump’s tariffs and economic policies for the market surge and wage growth.

In cultural news, Clay and Buck discuss Disney’s apology and rehiring of Gina Carano after her 2021 dismissal, and the backlash surrounding Sydney Sweeney’s ad, which polls show was largely well-received despite media outrage. The conversation pivots to social media censorship, with praise for Elon Musk’s overhaul of Twitter (now X), which they say has curbed leftist bullying and restored free speech.

The hour also dives into New York City politics, spotlighting the rise of mayoral candidate Mamdani, described as a “straight-up communist.” The hosts debate George Will’s assertion that Democrats should face the consequences of their policies, with Buck pushing back, arguing that defeat doesn’t teach lessons—especially to the left.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate
all of you.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hanging out with us.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Trump has broken left wing minds by telling them, Hey,
I'm going to keep you from getting killed this. I
knew it was going to be crazy the reactions, but
even for left wing meltdowns, the reaction from hey, my
goal is to make sure that less people are victims
of violent crime and less murders are taking place in Washington,

(00:29):
d C. Has really, even for left wing insanity, gone
to a different level. We're going to break that down
for you here momentarily give you a little bit of
a heads up. We're going to continue to follow the
Texas redistricting battle, and we're going to be joined by
Attorney General of Texas Ken Paxton at the bottom of

(00:50):
this hour to give us the absolute latest on what
the pursuit of Democrats who have fled the state is
actually going to entail, and so we will follow that
story with you along with many others. The New York
City mayor's race is heating up.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Buck. I saw George will on Bill Maher over.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
The weekend making the Clay Travis argument of Hey, maybe
we just have to let New York City stew in
its own ineptitude in order to and rather than try
to completely save them from their derangement. We'll talk about that,
maybe break down that universe, but I want to just
start and have some fun here.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
We told you this was coming.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
We said Trump is trying to save the lives of
tons of Democrat voters in Washington, d C. And they
are not going to be able to handle it. By
the way, we should also mention consumer prices inflation low
yet again two point seven percent below expectations, making finally

(01:55):
some of those rate cuts start to appear more likely,
maybe as soon as next month. We talk about that
as well, But let's have some fun here.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Here is great montage from our producer Greg of left wings.
Left wingers complaining about the overreach of Donald Trump keeping
them from getting killed in Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
This has cut three.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Is in government overreach or something that our big cities
desperately need. They called to take over the capital, drawing
backlash critics accusing the president of overreaching, authoritarian overreached.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
They feel like this is federal overreach.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
This is overreach, this is a feritarianism.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is an overreach.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
The sun necessary.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
It's about federal overreach, it's political overreach.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
This seems like a bit of an overreach.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
It is amazing how well they deliver the exact same
talking points. Let me play a couple to be fair
here for you, Buck of left wing journalist actually saying
you know what, it isn't safe in DC. Here was
to be fair Kyra Phillips at ABC News saying, hey,
DC's actually very dangerous cut six.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Usually that's how you played Devil's advocate as you talk about,
oh well, stat's say crime is down. However, I can
tell you firsthand here in downtown DC where we work,
right here around our bureau, just in the past six months,
you know, there were two people shot. One person died
literally two blocks down here from the bureau. It was
within the last two years that I actually was jumped

(03:25):
walking just two blocks down from here. And then just
this morning one of my coworkers said her car was
stolen a block away from the bureau. So we can
talk about the numbers going down, but crime is happening
every single day because we're all experiencing at firsthand while
working and living down here.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
One more buck, your buddy Joe Scarborough, who suddenly has
taken truth sarum and occasionally now says things that are
objectively true. Said, hey, privately, everybody's talking about how DC's unsafe,
and then publicly they're complaining because Trump's trying to make
it safer.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Cut seven.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
People have been calling me over the past couple of days, going,
you know, Washington should have gotten involved years ago. This
place is dangerous, it's a mess, it's a wreck, and whatever,
and then they'll go on Twitter Goo.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
As they were.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
It's outrage of all time, the jacking, which I understand
a people need to express their concerns about Donald Trump
going too far.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
We saw what happened back in twenty twenty with a
national guard. Certainly can't have any repeat of that. Don't
want the federalization of the entire city, but man, I
don't care what the crime statistics say. Crime has been
a problem in this city for the thirty two years
I've been living inside and outside of the city. It's just,

(04:47):
you know, even now, Meek and I were talking to
somebody who lives in the city.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
These are all Democrats who.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Said, you know, our friends won't walk more than three
blocks in DC.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean, how it's like he was listening to the
Clay and Buck show yesterday and is now just reiterating
everything that we told you. Because we tell you the truth.
We tell you what's really going on, which is why
you grace us with your time and why this project
of getting to hang out with you all works as

(05:20):
well as it does, because we're all a team in
the truth. It is so obvious to anyone who is.
And this is the thing too. You have two guys
here who have both lived in d C, so we
we know right this isn't some city. I can quote
statistics in Saint Louis to tell you that it's dangerous.
I can tell you stories, personal stories about it. I

(05:40):
remember I was woken up in the middle of the
night living at d C Clay and what was considered
a kind of a nice neighborhood. It wasn't Georgetown nice,
but it was a nice enough neighborhoods logan circle area
for those of you who know DC. And there was
not a shooting. A shootout on my corner. Two guys
who are at one of the big hotel chains I
forget which one pulled guns on each other and shot

(06:02):
it out. Neither of them hit anyone. But I remember
being woken up in the middle of night by this.
You could say, oh, Buck, but that's anecdotal. Everybody who
lives in DC has these anecdotal stories no matter where
you live in DC. And that is a different thing.
It is a different thing, and they talked about it.
I did watch some Morning Joe this morning. You know, Sorry, guys,
that is a different thing they talked about on Morning Joe.
How if you live in Manhattan, you might have a

(06:24):
story about someone being crazy on this In fact, if
you take the subway, you definitely have stories that some
being crazy on the subway. And you might have some
stories about vagrins and about some unsettling things. You don't
have a story about the summer intern who just got
stabbed to death last week. Everybody who lives in DC
knows this. And one of the brilliant things from that,

(06:45):
that's the reality there. One of the brilliant things here
once again from Trump and Clay you were hitting it
hard yesterday. It's so important for everyone to know this.
Trump is forcing them to defend the indefensible once again.
Once again, DC is not a safe city. Anyone who
tells you otherwise is lying. Or just is ignorant and

(07:07):
it should be a lot better. The city Council in
DC is so insane that the Democrats had to go
along in Congress and override legislation that they were trying
to pass. The DC City Council tried to make carjacking
a less serious statute, and the United States Congress was like,
you guys are nuts. You can't do that in our

(07:28):
nation's capital because we have to drive in to go
to our jobs and we don't want to be carjacked.
Democrats Clay once again caught completely flat footed on this.
They look like buffoons. What Trump's doing makes perfect sense.
And if he shows results, which by the way, I
think he will, I think there will be results from this.
It'll just be another w where Democrats look like they're

(07:50):
the pro crime party and the emotionally erratic liar party.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I also think this could be a pilot program. If
Trump surges National guardsmen and additional resources in Washington, d C.
And we see a market decline in violent crime, why
would that not be possible with state National Guard troops.

(08:17):
You mentioned Saint Louis. I was looking. I think I
let me see if I looked and flagged it. But
the cities that actually have the largest awful crime rates,
I was very kind of interested in that, And some
of them you would not be surprised by. Memphis is awful,
and Kansas City, I was surprised by, is incredibly awful

(08:41):
when it comes to violent crime. Why couldn't we apply
some of the same lessons that might be learned in Washington,
d C. To those cities and drive down violent crime everywhere?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, you absolutely could. And this is the critical point.
This is a choice the same way, and this is
really important, the same way that we saw that Biden's
open border was a choice. Trump has proven that letting
ten million people flood into the country under false asylum claims,

(09:12):
entering illegally and then gaming our system and taking advantage
of the American people that did not have to happen.
Democrats chose to make that happen. They're also choosing for
crime to continue in all these cities at the level
that it is. I mean, you can go down the list,
play New Orleans, a beautiful city that I love way
too much crime. Saint louis so much crime that when

(09:32):
I visited our affiliate there a few years ago and
I asked my Uber driver. I was like, hey, downtown
looks kind of nice. He's like, don't walk alone at
night here. I remember. I'm like, in the main downtown,
you're the sports stadium. And he goes, oh, no, don't
walk alone at night. I said, Okay, that's not a
big and everyone that I saw who lived in the
suburbs there said the same thing. It's too dangerous at night.
You know. Citi's like Baltimore City. I haven't been to Detroit.

(09:54):
I have spent a lot of time in Baltimore. Baltimore
is far too dangerous, far too much crime. The things
that they keep saying they want to do, oh we
need more like you know, social workers, or we need
more welfare programs or whatever, that doesn't do anything. Fighting
crime involves enforcing the law and locking up criminals. DC
had three thousand, give or take, has about three thousand

(10:17):
felony arrests a year. Now, it's only three hundred and
sixty five days in a year, but three thousand felony
arrests in a year. Clay probably fifteen hundred to two
thousand people in DC are really doing the bad stuff. Yeah,
really doing the bad stuff out of a city of
six hundred thousand. If you're willing to lock up even
five hundred to one thousand more of these serious felons,

(10:37):
you know what happens. Everybody's safer one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
And we're speaking as grown men, who I think, in general,
are less concerned with crime. I don't know about you.
I really don't think about being a victim of crime
that often. But I was having this conversation with my
wife the other day.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I mean, Franklin, you might have like a squirrel or
run across your roof where not where I live, I
mean anywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But I was having this conversation with my wife and
she said, you know, you and Buckman talking about crime.
Every woman when she walks into a when she walks
into a parking garage, is her head is on a swivel.
She's holding her keys to be used as a weapon.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
The most dangerous places, the most dangerous places, especially for women,
parking garages, gas station, parking garages, gas station, that's the
worst place for women to be specifically, I told my
wife recently. I think I said it on the show.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Hey, Nashville, where I live, certain neighborhoods feel unsafe. I said,
you're not getting gas anymore in Nashville. Like, come out
to Franklin where we are after dark and you can
fill up the car. Plan it that way. But I
think that every man thinks about this in the context
of wife, daughter, mom. Every woman thinks about it all

(12:02):
the time. Right when crime is at a high level,
women are thinking about this all the time. And I
guarantee you, especially all the women that are in the
UH media and are conscious of the high rates of
violent crime that are going on, they actually agree. And
I think one of the things that this illuminates is

(12:23):
Trump says what lots of people think. And the difference
between authentic politicians and inauthentic politicians is what I give
them credit here. Joe Scarborough just pointed to, which is
most people agree with what Trump's doing privately, but publicly,
because it's Trump, they're claiming they don't. And I think

(12:45):
increasingly more and more of the American public is seeing
through the bs and saying, wait a minute, you said yesterday.
I think it's a good point. You could disagree on
tax rates or tariff rates. I mean, I just said
this on Fox News, but it's part disagreeing on keeping
people from getting murdered is a really tough argument to make, right, Hey,
I want less people to die violently is something.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That everybody in America should say. Hey, I'll sign on
to that. Like I said, this is one of Clay's
brave stands on the show, solidly anti murder. Did you
see homers?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Fox News actually shared from their twenty eight million Twitter
account or whatever, Clay Travis says he hates murder, and
I was like, finally I'm getting some credit here for
hating murder more than anybody else. That was actually their headline,
and so I appreciate the praise.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
There something else I want to point out, because we
were discussing the numbers, we should get into some of
the numbers, some more on this. And remember, if you're like, well,
it's our nation's capital, Clay, we don't want to just
take blue cities and let them rot, sir, whether it's
New York or DC. We will return to that conversation.
We want them to be the best they can be.
And people were saying, oh, well, look at the numbers,

(13:53):
look at the crime it's going down. There's already an indicator,
a pretty strong one that they're cooking the books, which
I'll also tell you even without this story, I knew
this was going on because anyone who lives in DC
will tell you not safe, Bad things are happening, not safe,
and the atmosphere there, And this is why Joe Scarborough,
Joe Scarborough's golf playing friends from the Chevy Chase country

(14:17):
Club for those who know the DC area, I'm sure
he has a lot of them. A lot of Scarborough
Watchers live in chevy Chase. They would be very miffed.
You know, Muffy and Buffy would be very upset if
Joe was saying that it was safe in downtown DC,
because they don't feel safe when they go to Pilate's
class in downtown. They know that bad things happen there.

(14:38):
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Speaker 9 (16:04):
Saving America, one thought at a time. Clay Travis and
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Speaker 1 (16:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate everybody
hanging out with us. He is the Attorney General of Texas.
He is also running for the Republican nomination in the Senate.
He is Ken Paxton with us on now. Uh, okay,
so let's dive into the absolute latest here.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
The Democrats, to my knowledge, remain outside of state borders.
What should we expect to happen going forward? Now, mister Attorney.

Speaker 11 (16:43):
General, Well, I don't know if this is a you know,
uncharted territory for all of us. I don't know exactly
what to expect, but we are we filed actions in
both Illinois and California. You know, obviously they can move around,
but my understanding is many of the Murton Illinois actions
in that state asking the court there under the full

(17:04):
faith and credit provision of the US Constitution to honor
our quorum warrants that were issued by the Speaker of
the House in Texas, So we'll see how that goes.
We're waiting on action there. We also have our filings
with the Text Supreme Court to try to remove thirteen
different legislators for not for being openly defiant of showing

(17:29):
up for a session to deal with a lot of issues,
not just resitioning. And that is on a sort of
a two week time frame with briefs due by the
other side, then a reply brief, and then their reply brief.
So that's going to be going over the next couple
of weeks. And then of course we have our actions

(17:49):
that relate to fellow or Rourke and his pack and
trying to hold him in contempt for filing in a
temporary restraining order. It was issued by a court in
Terrent County recently.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
So, mister Attorney General, if I could ask, could you
just reverse the little because for some of some of
our listeners, what is different about this time? This has
happened before, and there are people are saying, oh, this
is a game that has been played in the past.
What does the law say about like, where are democrats
who have fled the state in violation of law? And

(18:25):
how is this time If this time is different from
the past, how is it different from when they've tried
this before.

Speaker 11 (18:31):
So you know, they tried it in two thousand and three,
I was in Texas House, obviously, I was not in
the Training General's office. In twenty twenty one, it didn't
last very long. This one, we have no idea how
long it's going to last. So, you know, they're all
a little different. I think as we've had more experience,
you know, my office has got more and more creative
trying to deal with these issues, and so these ideas

(18:53):
that we're proposing now are just ideas that we've come
up to be creative. I mean, as I said, they're new.
There's there's there's no experience really in trying what we're doing.
And the last two times we just outweighted them and
the governor. The governors kept calling Governor Perry governor kept
calling them back, and eventually we got it.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
We got it done.

Speaker 11 (19:15):
So you know, I guess we're just a little more
action oriented and a little more creative this time, trying
to push the envelope to get them back here sooner
so we can get this done.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
What would you say, And I'm going to get my
popcorn because I bet the answer is going to be good.
To people like JB. Pritzker, Governor of Illinois, to uh
Kathy Hochel, governor of New York, to Gavin Newsom, Governor
of California, who say Texas is effectively destroying democracy by redistricting,

(19:46):
I would.

Speaker 11 (19:47):
Say they're hypocrips. I mean, they're their own states are
so Jerrymander. I mean, look at our maps versus their maps.
It's it's ridiculous to look at Illinois. Massachusetts, you know,
has zero Republican representative representation in the state that has
thirty seven percent of Republican Illinois forty has only three

(20:07):
representative that are Republicans.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
So, I mean, I.

Speaker 11 (20:10):
Don't know how they say it with a straight face,
but they do. Apparently they're really willing to just be
dishonest because they know they've done it. They've done it
for decades and they're just appalled that you guys can't
do what we've done.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
And.

Speaker 11 (20:24):
But yet here we are. You guys in Texas are
destroying democracy. What we did when we jerrymandered our state
to almost you know, many of these states have no
Republican representation. That is not destroying democracy because we're Democrats.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
And so in terms of the law, you're the attorney
general for the state of Texas. They are are they
in clear violation? Are they arguing that what they're doing
is somehow not a violation of Texas statute because the
way it's no surprise, the way it's talked about in
the media, they pretend like there's a lot of gray
area and this is done before and you know, what

(21:00):
does the law say about their obligation to actually show
up for a quorum.

Speaker 11 (21:07):
Well, they're obligated under house rules. They're there, they represent
the people of their area, but they're under the kunder
obligation of their own rules that they passed to show
up to vote. And when they don't do that, they
can be held in you know, basically in contempt by
the film by their own body. So they say that

(21:29):
their own body voted on rules that they were a
part of, it says exactly the opposite. So they're not
being honest. They're being very disingenuous. And of course, as
you're not surprised the mainstream media plays along.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
You're also in the midst of running as a Republican
candidate in the Senate race that will happen next year.
You're in the in the midst of a lot of
different things going on. How would you assess that that race,
and do you think President Trump is likely to weigh
in in one form or fashion.

Speaker 11 (22:06):
So, I mean, I did my polling before I got in,
but I used Cruises Polster. I used another polster with it,
did Trump's polling I did, and I did three polls.
All of them had me up by at least twenty
five points. I don't think that's changed much. You know,
you can have different polsters looking at different things. But
it was very consistent. And it's based on John Cornyn's

(22:27):
past twenty three years as a US Center and you can.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
Go back further.

Speaker 11 (22:30):
He's been in office, so I was in college and
I'm sixty two. He has not represented Texas well. He's
he's been opposed to President Trump being president both times,
insinuated that he was guilty of crimes, and now suddenly
in any conversion experience on April Lake when I got
on the race, and now he loves Trump after hating
him for the entire time he's been in office. He's

(22:50):
been opposed to building a wall on the border, which
most my constituents were disgusted by, and the course President
Trump had just the opposite view, and he fought with
Joe Biden to restrict Second Amendment rights, which Texans obviously
do not want Second Amendment rights restricted, but he don
Cornyn fought with Biden to make that happen. So if

(23:12):
you look at his record, he has not represented Texas well.
There's not a distinguishing feature other than he tells us
now that he's with Trump all of the time. It's
just not true. It's dishonest.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know, we're putting a lot of time and attention,
mister Attorney General on what's going on in DC now
with Trump trying to bring the crime numbers down and
federalizing the Metro Police for a period of time as
he can under the Home Rule Act of nineteen seventy
three for the District of Columbia. But we've also raised
how this could set a precedent, especially if there are

(23:47):
points on the board, so to speak, if Trump shows
success here for other law enforcement efforts that would use
federal partners in conjunction with local law enforcement. And I'm
wondering if this is something saying that you're already considering
or are you in the are you in conversation with
the Trump White House about because you know Houston, I
have a lot of friends in Houston, a lovely, lovely place,

(24:10):
but there's some crime there. There's some crime problems, the
same thing I believe in Dallas in some areas. So
I'm wondering if this is something that you think could
be a template in your state or just in general
across the country.

Speaker 11 (24:23):
No, I think in general it's certainly something given to
These cities are very liberal. Their district attorneys funded by Soros.
We have the same problem, and you know Travis County, Austin,
and other major cities in our state, but they won't prosecute,
and they defund the police and make it very difficult

(24:43):
for crime to be prosecuted. So I don't know, since
in my case, the legislature doesn't give authority to the
Attorney general to prosecute crimes, leaves it up to the
DA's I think any help we can get from the
federal government shut down crime and stop the increase that
we have in our cities that are run by democrats.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
I'm for.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Ultimately, do you expect, I know the FBI has gotten involved,
do you expect for there to be any arrest outside
of state of any of these Texas lawmakers?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Like what is the rubber meets the road moment.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Let's at some point the expectation, I think is that
they can't live outside of the state forever and they'll
have to return. But while they're out of state, do
you expect any arrests or any seizures to occur?

Speaker 11 (25:32):
I don't expect. I mean the FBI would have to
have a federal crime. I don't see them arresting. This
is not a federal crime. I mean, love it if
they could get them back somehow. For us, the actions
that we're taking in Illinois, I think are our best
shot is getting these states, these courts to recognize our
laws and help us get them back. Otherwise we're going

(25:55):
to be in the same situation we've been in the past.
We just they don't want to They don't want to
live in Chicago the rest of life and go through
the winner. They're going to have to come back their families,
and ultimately that has been successful both times. It just
took longer, and you know, we spend a lot of
money and waste a lot of time, but ultimately we
got our registring maps past in the past both times.
So we're not going to give up. We're just trying

(26:17):
to expect the process because it's ridiculous that this is
what we have to go through.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
All right, biggest question right now for you. The last
time I think, Buck and I saw you in person
was actually at a Texas Alabama football game down in Austin.
Within about three weeks, basically one v. Two is going
to be taking place. The Texas Longhorns have opened as
the number one team in the country. They're going on

(26:42):
the road in Columbus, Ohio against the defending national champion
Ohio State. Buck, guys, what happens?

Speaker 11 (26:49):
You know what, I'm optimistic that Texas will pull it out.
They've done it before. The last time I went to
a Texas Ohio State game on the road was when
Texas won the national championship and they beat Ohio State
at Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That was Ben's young, right, if I remember correctly, I
was there.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
I loved it, and no one expected us to win
that game. But I am predicting we're gonna have a repeat.
I think it was two thousand and five of the
Ohio State opening game against Texas, where Texas pulled out
a win.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I remember that game like it was yesterday, you know, Bock.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
That led into what I think is the greatest college
football game of my life, into the year Rose Bowl
Texas USC the most watched college football game of the
twenty first century. That I imagine, mister Attorney General, you
sometimes think about fondly still to this day.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
I do. I was there.

Speaker 11 (27:42):
I literally when the game was over, I thought, this
is the greatest college game I've ever seen. Almost thought,
how can I go to another college game after witnessing
this masterpiece really by both teams. It was just it
was just amazing, And I still get kind of chilled
talking about it because it was so from is such
a remarkable game.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, look keep us updated on how this is going on.
You know, you can come on any time, and we
appreciate all the work y'all are doing down there.

Speaker 11 (28:11):
Hey, I appreciate you guys. Have a great day. We're
going to win this.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Thank you.

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Speaker 2 (30:18):
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Speaker 1 (30:20):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck, It does, but
it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The
formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Smart move to stick with bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone. Well, that's an understatement.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Bricks is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase
their sway in the global financial order. Now that sounds
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he's been there since day one. In fact, a major
theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim to
reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

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ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. All right, welcome back
into Clay and Buck. Let's get some call some talkbacks
here from all of you. Thank you so much, some
of you coming to my defense on the East scooter thing,
which is very kind of you. You know it's efficient, Clay.
I'm sorry some of us want to keep our carbon

(32:17):
footprint small.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
There is a zero percent chance if I were single,
that I would have scooted anywhere. I mean I would
have to. I would have been late for every meeting
just because I would have been afraid that would come
by and see me on the scooter and never date
me again.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
This is gonna sound like I'm making it up, but
I'm not making it up. But I feel like we're
all family here, so I will tell you this. Okay.
During COVID, a couple of years before I met my wife,
when I was a single guy, I was, you know,
I was out, you know, trying to meet the trying
to meet the love of my life, my beloved Carrie,
and I hadn't met her yet, and it was a

(32:52):
couple of years before, and I had the scooter because
you know, during COVID, that was when it was great
to have the scooter because you could fly all over
New York, not fly, but could move really fast all
over near There were very few people out and about
because that time, so I could get all over but
you know, restaurants will be open sometimes. And I remember
I was like, you know what I was like, for this,
this is true story. I was like, for this it
was a second date to be it wasn't her first date.

(33:14):
I was like, but for this date, you know what,
I'm just gonna I'm gonna show up with my scooter
because it's convenient, and like I'll give her I'll give
her a ride home on my little East scooter. And
I didn't really think this through. You know, she was
a she's a petit lady, she wasn't big. I didn't
really think this through though. Those things are not meant
for two people. So when she got on the back

(33:34):
of it and we tried to go, I'm not kidding.
We were going zero point five miles an hour. It
was moving walking, but oh walking is way faster. We
were moving, but it was moving at the speed of
like a toddler's Tanka truck, you know what I mean,
when it kind of goes on the driveway, and uh,
we had a we had a sustained laugh at my expense.

(33:56):
And uh, I don't think there was a third date
we did go.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I wouldn't have kept dating you. I mean I would
have been like, this guy's riding a scooter. He won't
even spend he won't even splurge for an uber ride
back home. It's probably cold, the winds. I do wish
there was there was video of my face though, when like,
cause you know, I hit the.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Throttle and I didn't know and and it kind of
like lurched for and then it was just at you know,
at turtle speed. I mean it was this old ladies
with walkers were telling me to get out of the way,
slow poke. It was really not good.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I remember, this is kind of funny date story, not
for me. I've been married for twenty like five years
or whatever. The heck it is twenty two years, next year,
next month, this month, anyway, a long time, twenty one years.
But I remember a girl being like, yeah, I went
on a date. She's like, I'm a little We used
to do I'd do anonymous mailbags at out kick and

(34:50):
I would answer a lot of questions. Girl was like, yeah,
I went on a first date. It's like, I just
I don't really feel like he was into me. And
I was like, you know in the email, and she
was like and as evidence of that, she said he
paid with a gift certificate. And I was like, I
was like, I'm sorry. Ladies, if you go out to
dinner with a guy on the very first date and

(35:12):
he pays with a gift certificate, then he is really
not that into you because he's not even willing to
pull out the actual credit card. And it's even funnier
if it's like, can you just take the twenty. You know,
it's like a twenty five dollars gift certificate. So you know,
I'm just telling you, I don't believe maybe there's somebody listening.
I don't believe there's a single marriage that has ever

(35:33):
resulted from a first date or a man paid for
the dinner with a gift certificate, because I think women
are like, like, look, I mean, I'm not saying that
I expected the absolute sun of movement stars on the
first date, but you took me to Applebee's or Outback
and you whipped out like that the Outback gift certificate

(35:56):
for the bluemin onion. I'm just not saying that that's
the guy that you want to spend the rest of
your life with. Maybe there's somebody out there, if there's
a single person listening who went out on a first
date and the guy she's with paid with a gift
certificate gift card, then then maybe I'm wrong. I don't
think there's a single relationship that has ever come from

(36:17):
a first date gift certificate. So, uh, that is my
advice to men out there that if you're dating a girl,
or if you're the girl, if he's paying for you
with a gift certificate. He's not that into you. He
wasn't even willing to actually use real cash. He's using
what his mom gave him for Christmas to take you. However,
bloomin onions still preferable to splitting the check on the

(36:41):
first date. I will say, so, it's it's a little,
it's you know, this is in. This is purgatory. This
is like in between, right. I mean, it's not great,
but not terrible. Guys, I gotta you gotta pick up
the even if you don't like her.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Even if she's a even if she's a Bernie Sanders
voting purple haired. You didn't know. This is what you
were getting into date. You pay on the first eight guys,
don't don't don't make it. We have young we have
young single men listeners here twenties, thirties, forties, guys were
single out there. You pay on the first date. Boys,
I agree that it's just the way it is. There's
no way fans or butts. All right, Norman in NYC

(37:15):
wants the way in. What's going on?

Speaker 8 (37:16):
Norman, I'm still laughing about the credit card. The credit
gift card.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Gift card.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
You can't do it, Norman. You can't do it. You've
probably been married for thirty years. But I'm trying to
help the young men out there. Don't screw this up.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
My god, God was given to him by his mother.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Oh my god, it's like you got a Christmas gift
card for the outback steakhouse. You're not even willing to
take and pay the girls dinner for yourself. Your mom
and dad are paying for it.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Just can't do it.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
Oh my god, Oh my god, you got Norman.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
We have to come Do you have to come back
to Norman? Norman's Norman's Uh, he's tickled over there.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
Let me say this, I think, first and foremost, Washington,
d C. Should be the safest community on the planet.
Form That is, where the President of the United States,
dignitaries come from all over the world. There is no excuses,
no excuses for one thing to be going wrong in Washington,
d C. The second thing is I agree with the

(38:12):
presidents and in the National Guard there, and I think
that it's important that the mayor takes the pride off
the shoulder and say I'm getting additional help in the
mountain in Washington defeat to be able to combat the
problems that we face. I think that what I would
do is pair up one law enforcement officer from the
district with one National guardsman to give it more power,

(38:36):
to give people more comfortability. The word national Guard is
scaling people. It's additional law enforcement. New York City talks
about the fact that we need more police. Well, Hull,
take the four thousand or five thousand National guardsmen that
want to be deployed. Give them the opportunity to work
alongside the police.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Can Can I point out something as well, Norman. All
the people that don't totally agree with your sentiments, you're
all the peace people that are freaking out about Trump
deploying National Guard to help with law enforcement. They were
fine with National Guard holding empty M sixteens at airports
during COVID as if that had anything to do with anything.
I mean, they just had people standing there with guns

(39:16):
making you fill out contact tracing forms. What was the
National Guard gonna do? Hand me some extra cleanexes? It
was absurd, and they were all fine with that. I
just want to point out no purpose for them whatsoever
other than a show of force, because we're all supposed
to obey and bend the need of fauci a vile third.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
Oh absolutely, and let me see this. Tell a mother
that lost her child to gun violence that she doesn't
want more police in the community. Hey man, a father
that doesn't have one, Come on, man, get with polish.
Let's do what we gotta do. Yes, we're in untrodded
territories in some area. But the ship is turning. Let's
get on board, turn the ship and going in a

(39:53):
different direction because all of this other stuff from the
Democrats have not been working. It's just been kicking the
can down the road.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's a great call, Norman. I agree with him.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
And you mentioned this yesterday, Buck, and we'll play a
cut for you. Maybe in a little bit. We're gonna
take a couple more calls. But I think Muriel Bowser,
the mayor of DC, actually agrees with Trump, but politically
is not able to say that. Listen to her answers
and how she's trying to thread that fine line. I
think she welcomes the support.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
She is not. I if this were happening in Chicago,
Mayor Johnson would be screaming about Nazism and racism and
Trump as like the head of the KKK. I mean,
it would be complete meltdown. Okay, complete meltdown. That's not
what you're getting from Mayor Bowser. She was pretty you know.
I mean, she's saying, I don't think we need it.

(40:42):
She's trying to defend her record a little. Maybe we
should get to some of those get some of those clips.
She's not she's not coming out swinging hard at Trump
on these things because I think she wants to leave
open the possibility of taking credit for it, which if
it gets better, she'll take a victory lap. And you
know what if she doesn't stand in the way, fine,
you know, I mean, as long as it's getting better there,

(41:04):
because we all know that people will understand that Trump
was the instigator of these improvements. But yeah, I think
it's it's very interesting see how that dynamic plays out.
We've also got here Flora next. Thank you Dave in Florida.

Speaker 12 (41:19):
Yes, hey, listen buck And when when the when the
bike went dead?

Speaker 8 (41:22):
Who pushed?

Speaker 13 (41:22):
Who taking it back?

Speaker 10 (41:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
What happened when the scooter was failing? What did you do?
Did you like just kick her to the curb and
ride home? I I I will tell you.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I called an uber for her to take her home,
and then I kind of sadly, I didn't really want
to ride the ride the scooter anymore. I kind of
walked it home. You know when you skin your knee
as a kid on your bike and you were like
unsure of it, you know, and you're like, I don't know,
like I was skinned my knee. That's kind of how
I felt about my e scooter. It was like I
was defeated and I just walked alongside it in sorrow alone.

Speaker 11 (41:55):
Yeah, took your soccer ball and went home.

Speaker 12 (41:57):
So, you know, the solutions today for DC and the
mayor's solution is as ridiculous as it was when Marion
Barry was in office and the early nineties it was
the murder capital of the world, I think a couple
of years consecutive, and that solution was to change the
name of the basketball team from the Washington.

Speaker 13 (42:14):
Bullets because of that Bullets to the Washington Wizards.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
That was their solution, I remember.

Speaker 13 (42:19):
And it's just completely out of ridiculous at a ridiculous
level now. So I want to ask you, I want
to ask you a question real quick. I know, maybe
maybe fourth of July or something. Could you guys maybe
play an old Paul Harvey rest of the story, the
signers of the Declaration of Independence. It's a great it's
a great rest of the story.

Speaker 10 (42:39):
Man.

Speaker 13 (42:39):
I think everybody appreciate it so well.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
That's fun.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Uh, that is a question for rights for people way
smarter than me, meaning producer Alli can can look into it.
By the way, I will say two and fiftieth anniversary.
I just saw this come across the Twitter wire here
Buck UFC fight South Lawn July fourth, twenty twenty six.

(43:03):
That is according to Dana White, and I think Ivanka
Trump is working on trying to put this thing on.
They are going to do the fight and then have
the fireworks. I'm gonna try to pull some strings for us,
Buck to get that's one of the coolest sporting events
of all time to see a UFC competition on the

(43:23):
south lawn of the White House and have it sort
of connected also simultaneously to the extraordinary July fourth, on
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States.
It doesn't get much trumpier than that. But that, by
the way, speaking of July fourth, is underway right now.
Let's get one more quickly in here, Barney and North Carolina.

(43:44):
What you got for us.

Speaker 10 (43:47):
Yeah, my thing is with DC and all these other
big cities, they're all democratic run in Democratic run state,
and they're all anti Second Amendments and any correlation with
the violence and crime.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
We're dayn Thank you for the call. Barney, I bet
was a big fan of Andy Griffith back in the day.
Maybe named after the legendary Barney Fife. That is, by
the way, one of the all time great shows. Do
you ever grow up watching Andy Griffith show?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Buck?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Oh No, Andy Griffith Show is still so good, black
and white Andy Griffith before they went to the color version,
old school Andy Griffith shows, Opie everything else and be
so good. So what's interesting is we have seen skyrocketing
levels of firearms.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Purchase since twenty eighteen ish.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I think if any firearm maker out there were looking
at it, there are way more guns on the street
now than ever before. And many of the places with
the highest rates of gun ownership are actually seeing much
lower rates of gun violence, and many of the places
with the most restrictive laws on gun ownership are seeing

(45:04):
record high levels of gun violence. Again, it is the
legal gun owner, as many of you know out there
is actually one of the most law abiding people like
leave aside gun crime, they actually commit crimes that infinitely
lower rates anybody else.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Conceal carry permit holders in this country have a lower
violation of the law rate than law enforcement. Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, that's a heck of a stat That's a heck
of a stat doesn't surprise me, but but that is
super interesting. Look, I'm going to go to Chattanooga, Tennessee,
my mom's hometown, next week, and I am speaking to
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Speaker 1 (47:34):
Welcome in hour number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you rolling through the program with me, I, uh,
so many people.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Way again, we're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Some fun on my contention that you cannot take a
first date out and pay for it on a gift certificate,
which I would continue to uh to hammer home. Some
news that is out there, the Caroline Levitt has been
having a press availability, a White House press conference, and

(48:09):
she has confirmed that the big meeting between Donald Trump
and Vladimir Putin will occur in Anchorage, Anchorage, Alaska coming
up on Friday. Will be a huge story for what
exactly we will hope to be a successful meeting, and

(48:29):
as we told you yesterday, President Trump will know relatively
quickly whether he says there is a deal to be
made here or he is still kind of getting yanked around,
for lack of a better phrase to explain why this
ongoing negotiation continues.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Some positive news.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
The inflation report that came out this morning continues to
be low inflation at two point seven percent. The stock
market has so urged as a result of that report,
as inflation came in lower than expected for I think
the fifth month in the last six There has not

(49:09):
been a major inflation impact at all from so far
President Trump's tariffs and we have new stock market records
all over the NASDAC, all over the S and P
five hundred, the dal Jones Industrial. If you have a
four to oh one K, your stocks are setting record highs.
So your retirement is doing very, very well. And I'll

(49:32):
continue to echo if you were just not a panicker,
if you did not panic in April when everybody tried
to tell you, oh my goodness, these tariffs are going
to destroy the economy, there's no way to continue to
live this way. It is the case that I believe
the Trump economy is starting starting to fire on all cylinders.

(49:58):
Growth in wages is out pacing growth in cost, which
is the most important I would say measurement economically because
it means you have more money in your pocket.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I know many of you out there are still very
frustrated by the price of goods, which skyrocketed during the
Biden administration when we got to over nine percent inflation.
I understand when people say, hey, things still feel like
they cost too much. Unfortunately, inflation is embedded. We very
rarely ever go backwards in price. So the best thing
you can hope for is that prices stop growing at

(50:33):
exponential rates, which is again where we are. We've got
a bunch of people who want to weigh in a
variety of topics. Let me hit you with one bit
of news. I should have hit this last week. I
kind of missed it. I think it happened Thursday after
the show. I didn't talk about it on Friday. But
I think it is an important cultural hallmark here, Gina Carano, Buck,

(50:53):
did you ever watch The Mandalorian on Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I thought the first season was excellent and then it
kind of kind of crashed into the planet Laura. My
wife watches all these shows, and she watches them generally
with our boys.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
They loved The Mandalorian. It was a Disney Plus Star
Wars related show. Disney fired Gina Carano for having very
what I would say is just a little bit right
of center opinions on social media.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
She later sued they fired.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Her in twenty twenty one Friday last week, they Disney
apologized to her and basically said, hey, we're going to
rehire you. We talk about these things because I do
think the cultural significance of them is becoming more and
more paramount. And Buck, I'll add this. I saw this
story up at Mediaite and also up at OutKick Sidney Sweeney,

(51:49):
the ad that was so controversial. We were all told
only twelve percent of Americans, according to a big poll
that was Conde Duck, did actually found this ad in
any way offensive. Forty percent thought that it was a
very successful ad. A lot of other people didn't care

(52:09):
at all, one way or the other. But it is
interesting how the left wing I think their ability to
bully and try to force people not to, not to
be able to say, hey, you know, being a white
girl with blue eyes and blonde hair is a perfectly
fine advertisement. The way that they ran and hid from

(52:30):
this and tried to they've gotten used to being able
to bully people into apologizing and not doing ads like this.
I do think the best advice I have for anyone
out there is do the opposite of what's popular on Twitter,
and very often your business will thrive because Twitter is
not real life, and I think this is yet more

(52:51):
evidence of that being true. Well Twitch acts now it's
a lot more reflective of real life than it used
to be.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Remember it, it's funny. Ever since the social justice Communists
were kicked out of there by Elon, I never get dragged.
They used to call it piled on publicly by you know,
some some random writers from vox or something. You know,
this just doesn't happen anymore. Yes, And I think there
was a tremendous amount of both suppression and amplification in

(53:22):
favor of communist madness. I know, well we know there was.
I mean we that's Elon bought it and we saw
that and that was real. Uh yeah, they're they're honestly,
so many of these people who a decade ago loved
to be all tough on Twitter, they're all they're all
leftist cowards. They don't they don't pick fights anymore. They
don't want to because they know now that they don't

(53:44):
have the rigged game in effect. So I'm very grateful
that that that has changed.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Let me play a couple of clips for you that
are starting to to echo throughout the internet ecosystem. The
chief of police for the police for DC, they had
a press conference. Mayor Muriel Bowser was also there. The
chief of police had absolutely no idea what the phrase

(54:11):
chain of command was and uh and and had listen.
Just listen to this clip and think to yourself, does
this sound like a person who should be in charge
of keeping people safe in DC. The mayor then has
to step in, and I think it's evidence of what
we have kind of told you, which is, I think
the mayor does want additional resources politically, it's just hard

(54:32):
for her to endorse the decision made by Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
But listen to this clip. Is what the share of
command is?

Speaker 10 (54:38):
Now?

Speaker 5 (54:39):
What does that mean?

Speaker 10 (54:40):
Well?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Is it cam Bondi speak of Amy does so?

Speaker 8 (54:44):
At?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
The executive order is clear the President has requested MPD services,
and our Home Rule Charter outlines the process. The President
designated Attorney General Bondi as his proxy to request services
through me.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Okay, so I know that's a little bit confusing. The
video makes it easier.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
The chief of police did not seem to understand the
concept of chain of command, and so she had to
step back, and then the mayor came in and kind
of explained how this was laying out, which is, the
President is at the top of the chain of command
in DC as it pertains to it's a federal leadership there,
which I do think is kind of important.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
All Right.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I wanted to play this for you, Buck, because you
just came back from New York City recently. You were
up there with your family. You're born and raised New
York City. George will I think he's still at the
Washington Post, one of the foremost conservative columnists of the
last forty years, probably was on with Bill Maher and
he said the same thing that I said recently, which is,

(55:52):
sometimes you just have to let democrats deal with the
consequences of their choices. And so this argument is starting
to spread a little bit. And I want to get
your take, because I don't know that you've talked about
what you saw in New York City and how the
city felt.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
But listen to this.

Speaker 14 (56:08):
Here you have Trump, who is the Republican who is
aggrandizing more power than anybody, as we just talked about.
And on the other side, you have the guy running
in New York Mandani, right, okay, who's like a straight
up communist. I mean he is. He talks about, you know,
the things that communists say. I mean, he wants free

(56:29):
grocery stores, free buses.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
I want him to win.

Speaker 14 (56:33):
You want him to win? Yeah, I think every twenty
years or so, Wait, we need.

Speaker 10 (56:41):
Every twenty years or so, we need a conspicuous, confined
experiment with socialism so we can crack it up again.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Okay, Buck, you were just in New York City. It
seems like there's sort of a slow moving panic setting
in because Mom Donnie is remaining in the lead even
though he's clearly got communist opinions. Neither Cuomo, Eric Adams
nor Curtis Sleewa has been able to say, Hey, this
is going to be the primary adversary. What's the vibe

(57:12):
there so far as you could tell, And what do
you think of George Well's argument?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Well, the vibe is the slow growth of the Pannikin mindset.
I think that Mamdanie is gonna win, yes, because the
alternatives to him, none of them are good, and they're
all very good at canceling each other out. And I
know it. Please don't send me the Curtis Sliwa Curtis.

(57:38):
I'm sure Curtis is a great guy. I've interviewed him before.
He's not going to be the mayor of New York City. Okay,
It's just not gonna happen. So I wish that was
not the case. But this is a bit like when
libertarians once every four years send me the our candidate's
gonna win the presidency. No, he's not Okay, it's not
gonna happen, so please don't send me those emails. And
I think that unfortunately, mom, Donny's gonna be the mayor,

(58:03):
and that's gonna result in some real problems for the city.
As for George Will, I mean, look, I cannot abide
what is still my hometown, and I cannot abide the
largest city in America being burned down as some kind
of a message because the communists never get the message.
It's not like they're gonna learn. It's a bit like

(58:25):
dealing with children, Clay, when you have to tell them,
you know what, you can't actually just have like ice
cream and pizza every night for dinner, and you're gonna
eat good food. Like we just have to be in charge,
and the leftists have to not be in charge. They
never learn the lesson. They will keep burning their hand
touching the stove when it's hot. They never learn the lesson.
So I disagree with George, who, by the way, lives

(58:47):
in Chevy Chase talking about Chevy Chase before. So he
lives in a very rich, very affluent suburb of DC,
and it's easy for him with a little bow tie
on who's been wrong about everything Trump related. I might add,
he's been one of those, one of those, and you
know Trump wouldn't get into his country club, I'm sure.

(59:07):
But you know it's it's I think that it's a
bad it's a bad idea because the lessons aren't learned.
I mean, look at look at San Francisco. They dial
it back a little bit, but it's not like the
Democrats have said, you know what, San Francisco governance was
a bad idea. We're going to change our we now.
The communist never gets tired of being a communist because

(59:28):
it's not about what is, It's about what makes them feel.
And that's why I think New York City has a lesson.
Very easy for George Will to say, but I don't
think New York City has a lesson will actually have
the intended result. I'd rather us just move in the
other direction and get points on the board, right, you know,
because because I don't, I don't think his thing about
it being an example is true. It'd be one thing

(59:49):
if it actually was going to be. Oh, the whole
country will learn. You know what happened in New York City.
Giuliani came in and fixed the city that was the
lesson they didn't learn from previous Democrat hellscape experiments in
New York did learn from Dinkins and and Koch and
you know, YadA YadA, go back. So you want victory,
you don't want defeat. Defeat is not a good teacher,

(01:00:10):
unfortunately in this case. In general, it can be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
But my only argument is I think it makes it
more likely that we win the House if people like Mom,
Donnie and AOC are the face of the Democrat Party
by twenty twenty six. So I this is my argument.
Will did not make it thoroughly, but that we sometimes
have to sacrifice, uh the you know, the tigers are

(01:00:34):
running out there, and you got to outrun the tiger.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
And I don't think see I think that Mam Donnie
would maybe this will help you, which could be important.
Maybe this will help you with some New York State
congressional seats. I don't I don't think that in purple
states you're gonna there's not gonna be some Mam Donnie
effect of people who live in like the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
He's not well enough known in your mind for people
to even react to it, and people want people in
the rest of the country aren't going to care about
what but the mayor of New York is doing when
they're voting for Congress. I don't think so in that sense,
I don't see. And also he just doesn't have the
national profile, you know, a AOC and Bernie. It's funny,
they are still the biggest draw that the Democrats have.

(01:01:15):
But I wonder if they really are going to have
the negative effects on Democrats in the midterms that people
would like to see.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I'm curious. I'm curious about it. But yeah, George Will,
George Will, George Will could use little dose of humility.
I think you know, George Will writing for that Washington
Post communist slop for a long time, being all smug
with his little bow tie on. You know, you know what, buddy,
you know back of the room. You know, I know

(01:01:41):
you're an old guy, but back of the room, you
got some things to learn. I'm I'm not impressed. So,
you know, wrong on everything Trump related, just because they
just just as dug in on Trump and as anti
Trump as anyone can be. And for what? For what?
So the communists can run amok, so we can all
learn a lesson. While George is a playing croquet, sorry,

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