August 20, 2025 • 65 mins
This Will Make You Smile
Clay and Buck analyze a major New York Times article highlighting a dramatic decline in Democratic voter registration across 30 states, with Republicans gaining over 4.5 million voters between 2020 and 2024. They emphasize that this trend spans battleground states, deep-blue strongholds, and red states alike—signaling a nationwide political realignment. Key states like Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania are spotlighted as examples of this shift, with Nevada experiencing one of the steepest drops in Democratic support.
Clay and Buck explore the cultural undercurrents driving this transformation, including the alienation of young men, Latino voters, and black male voters from the Democratic Party. They argue that the party’s messaging has become increasingly disconnected from mainstream values, particularly on issues like crime, gender identity, and education. The hosts also discuss how Democrats’ reliance on nonprofit-driven voter registration efforts is no longer yielding the expected partisan advantage.
Saving Black Lives
Heather Mac Donald, Manhattan Institute Fellow and author of “When Race Trumps Merit” and “The War on Cops" joins the show to talk about why President Trump was right to send the National Guard to Washington. Mac Donald praises President Donald Trump’s recent “Liberation Day” speech, calling it a pivotal moment in his presidency and a bold rejection of the normalization of urban crime.
The discussion dives deep into the failures of Democrat-led cities to address violent crime, highlighting how race-based narratives have undermined law enforcement and public safety. Mac Donald critiques the “defund the police” movement and points to the New York Times’ surprising editorial shift acknowledging the consequences of anti-police rhetoric. She emphasizes the importance of police presence in high-crime communities and the damaging effects of demoralizing law enforcement.
The Real Conversation
Clay and Buck explore the statistical realities behind crime rates, questioning the integrity of reported crime drops and the political motivations behind them. They discuss the role of family structure—particularly the absence of fathers—in contributing to youth violence and criminal behavior, arguing that restoring family stability could dramatically reduce crime.
They also discuss the controversial sanctuary city policies that obstruct federal immigration enforcement, with commentary from Trump White House advisor Stephen Miller and Vice President JD Vance. They argue that these policies enable dangerous criminals to remain in communities, posing serious public safety threats. The impact of crime on business investment, urban quality of life, and the cultural shift needed to reject lawlessness. The hosts call for a return to common-sense policing and highlight New York City’s past success under leaders like William Bratton and Ray Kelly as a model for national reform.
Culture Matters
Affirmative action and higher education, with criticism of Elizabeth Warren’s past claims of Native American heritage and a call to reevaluate the racial preferences in college admissions. The hosts highlight a Wall Street Journal piece by Mike Gallagher questioning why elite universities like Harvard and Columbia admit such a high percentage of foreign students while receiving substantial federal subsidies. This leads to a broader critique of the American university system and its role in training foreign nationals who return to their home countries with advanced knowledge.
Cultural commentary continues with reflections on masculinity, fatherhood, and the importance of work ethic. A standout moment features NFL rookie Cam Ward explaining his motivation to wake up early for training, inspired by his father’s dedication to a job he disliked. The hosts use this story to emphasize the value of strong male role models and the cultural awakening among young men who are increasingly questioning mainstream narratives, especially in the wake of COVID-19 lockdowns and school closures.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Clay. Have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
a trendy new workout, Buck, it does, but it's actually
a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name
is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and
South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there. Can he give us some
inside intel? Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact,
a major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations
aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight. That make no mistake, It's already begun.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:44):
Welcome in Wednesday edition. Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Had
an awesome time speaking to the young Republicans of Hamilton County,
that is Chattanooga last night. Visit it with our friend's
legacy box toward their incredible facility. Maybe talk a little
bit more about that later, but just wanted to say
(02:05):
off the top, thanks to everybody out there who was
listening in that area. Had a great time meeting with
all of you, and there are a lot more of
you every single day that are joining team Clay and Buck,
team Sanity, Team Republican.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You could probably feel it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We will talk with Heather McDonald by the way, next
hour about the latest on the crime situation DC in particular.
But what exactly is happening when it comes to violent
crime in this country? What is the data show us.
Heather McDonald's one of the top experts in the country,
so we will discuss that. But Buck, this is one
of those days where it pays off to be me
(02:45):
where you start off your morning with a nice Crocket
coffee sitting down in front of the newspaper selection opening
it up, usually the New York Times, not exactly renowned
for its positive stories relating to the report Publican party.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Can I just say drinking Crockett Clay is like putting
on the leather bib before you get the X ray
at the dentist. Like, if you're drinking Crockett the communist
New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And by the way, I just want I do it
so you don't have to. This is me taking this time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It lead, not leather, sorry, leather lead bib led bib.
I was thinking what does the leather do? But I
was the leather with Crockett connection. I thought I might
be missing something. I do it so most of you
do not have to.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But this is a headline in New York Times today,
And I'm looking at what the headline is in the
digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline.
Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing red alert. What
the voter registration data shows? Subheading, and there's a big
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graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support
beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is
a big article. This is the feature for the New
York Times. And listen to this open buck, you don't
hear it opens like these. And I thought it was
interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an
(04:18):
entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, yeah, Clay
and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and
basically write about everything on crime, And maybe we should
have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's
basically what the New York Times said in their editorial.
Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long
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before they even go to the polls of the thirty
states that track voter registration by political party. Democrats lost
ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Elections, often by a lot. That four year swing towards
Republicans adds up to four point five million voters, a
deep political whole that could take years for Democrats to
climb out from. And then Buck, there is a graphic
showing you Democrats losing ground in all thirty states while
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Republicans are gaining ground. And again one more paragraph here
just to contextualize, so you know what Democrats are reading
this morning. The stampede away from the Democrat Party is
occurring in battleground states, the bluest states and the reddest
states too, according to voter registration data analyzed by the
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New York Times. And the data comes from a non
part isan data factory. So this is interesting when you
think about Buck, what is going on in a larger country.
I feel like I've seen it for a while because
the Democrat Party, it's basically an insult to call someone
(06:07):
a Democrat if you're a young man. We made jokes
about this when I uh fraternities. Instead of making jokes
about your mom. With the banners outside of the house
this fall, we're saying their opponents vote Democrat. The culture
has shifted in a major way. Yes. Now, if you're
at the frat house and some guy swings and misses,
(06:27):
you say, you swing that wiffleball bat like Democrat. It's
not good. It's not good. Yeah. And this whole article
to look the data in the I'm gonna tell you
this right now. This article is a joy. It is
a joy to read. I read it more than once,
that's how much. And this is a New York Times,
a big piece from the New York Times. This is
injected straight into my veins. Take this data and put
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it right into the heart of the American populace. This
is great stuff. Some of the things I pulled from
this in the specific, the long and the short of it,
as you out, is party registration, which Democrats are used
to having an advantage, and one of the reasons why
they didn't really detail this in the article is Democrats
have been running this voter registration industrial complex that is
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a non that they use nonprofits so tax advantaged here. Okay,
they're using nonprofits in order to get people to sign
up and vote, but they do it in a way
that they know they're going to get more Democrats, right,
So it's, oh, we're just to get out the vote effort, right,
And you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff,
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but it's always wink wink, we're going to do this
in you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles,
like they're doing it in places where they figure we're
going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well, the
problem is now they can't count play on just a
blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're going
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after let's say Latino voters. Uh, they can't count on
it benefiting Democrats. So they're going to hold on a second,
our scam isn't working the way that it used to.
Miami Dade County, for example, the number of active Republican
voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the Republican nominee.
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As recently as November twenty twenty, my home county of
Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred thousand in
one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah, there
are you know, most counties don't even have, you know,
the two hundred thousand voters. I mean, you see this
North Carolina state records show the Democrat advantage. There was
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four hundred thousand in twenty twenty. It's now basically more
or less a tide that they've got seventeen thousand voters.
I mean that's like not not going to make a
huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for
Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it
is right, there is a four alarm fire. Five alarm fire.
(09:02):
We got a lot of firefighters. You guys can write
it and tell I think it's five alarm, right, I
think it's five alarm right. I think that's a big
scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire for Democrats.
For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying all of this.
This is fantastic and it goes to everything we talk about,
as you said, the anti masculine, anti white misjudging, the
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Latino misjudging the young black male vote. I mean they
they are in free fall and the great thing is play.
There's no signs of its stopping. It just keeps getting worse,
and they won't change their messaging. They keep pushing for
let's have you know two hundred pound guys playing on
the women's athletics team in high school.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, and I do think this is a So, by
the way, one bit of news on this thirty states,
you might be saying, Okay, what happened in the other
twenty states. The other twenty states don't have party official registration.
So in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk
in on a prim and pick which side you want
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to vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some
places have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty
states do not, so they only have a thirty state
data set. But this, to me, buck it corresponds with
all fifty states moved to redder. If all thirty states
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are hemorrhaging Democrats such that the New York Times is
writing about it and adding Republicans, it is a sign
of a profound cultural shift. And I think the numbers
are actually going to get worse. And this is why
we had this conversation. In the wake of losing in
twenty twenty four, Democrats had a real choice. Do we
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look ourselves in the mirror and say, boy, voters by
and large rejected us, or do they say this is
just a sign that our message is not getting through.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Those are the only two paths. Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The first one is hard because it requires you to say, boy,
this is on us. The second one you put it
on the voters. I think we've gotten a result so far,
six months after Trump won, Democrats have decided their message
just didn't get through, and they have, as a result, doubled, tripled,
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quadrupled down on crazy. And they're saying, well, they're ignoring
the fact that Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact
that voters I believe heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the
arguments being made by the Democrat Party and overwhelmingly chose
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the Republican Party instead. And here's what I think is
particularly ominous, Buck. I think there are two things that
are particularly ominous about this data. One, the two most
Republican groups in the twenty twenty four election were men
under thirty and men over sixty five. I bet that
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has never happened in the history of this country. And
I think a lot of people are still not recognizing it,
which means that the data, as kids are getting younger,
instead of working in Democrat favor, is actually working against them.
And I'll come into the Travis Holts household and give
you an example on this. My fourteen year old blew
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my mind because I'm I can't believe that I'm going
to have two grown adult sons by the next election.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He told me right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all
my friends cannot wait to be eighteen so we can
vote against Democrats in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen
year old boys that will be eighteen. This is right now,
rising ninth graders, and there's a lot of these kids.
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They are overwhelmingly indexing a Republican just like their older
brothers did, just like is happening out there. So I
think the numbers are getting worse. That's point one for
younger two. And this is really transformative. And I know
a lot of you out there are part of this group. Asian,
Hispanic and Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican
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side because culturally they are more male than they are
Democrat and that men are saying we're done with the craziness.
So I think both of those things are huge, not
only now but looking forward, and just from a pure
power perspective, the general belief is that after a presidential election,
especially a tightly contested hotly contested one, oh Republicans or
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rather the party in power Republicans in this case, will
get smacked down in the midterms. And just also the
overall political trend, because when you're in power, it's easy
for people to say you're not doing a good enough
job of this, and you messed that up, and you know,
to be the political complainers. Tends to work, right that
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the opposition party gets to say you're not delivering. And
we've gotten used to that as our framework for politics
in this country, certainly at the national level. Here's and
let me add that happened in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen.
Going into that twenty eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered.
They hadn't built the wall, they hadn't done this and that,
and they were able to get substantial gains in twenty
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eighteen in the House, and the Democrats were really fired
up obviously about twenty twenty. You could tell already by
that midterm Clay that's not happening this time. And this
is what I think is so concerning to the Democrats
and so amazing for the rest of us, is that
they're not seeing the general the general prevailing trends post
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this election are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back,
Democrats are going to counterattack here. It's getting worse for them.
Trump's been president for seven months and things are getting
better for Trump and for Democrats right away in all
the numbers and all the metrics that they can see.
I mean, here's one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada,
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North Carolina, Pennsylvania. Democrats are losing support in all of
those states and continuing to bleed support based on voter
register member not all states have voter registration. What is it.
It's like, uh, thirty thirty out of thirty out of fifty,
so I'm not not as anything in my state, So
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twenty do not thirty two Based on those thirty states,
though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
really important states. Democrats are still losing support when it
comes to voter registration in those places. And they're also
losing support when you look at voter switches, people that
were Democrats and come to Republican side, or Republicans who
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go in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the
Democrat Party. I don't know how this article could be
worse for Democrats. That's right now. Quiet. There was not
a single silver lining anywhere anywhere, full stop. It was
a total. It was a delicious nightmare for them. I
loved everything. By the way. One state that I think
is not getting enough attention that is emblematic of this,
maybe more than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the
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steepest percentage point plunge of any state other than West Virginia.
West Virginia's pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the
Republican Party. I think there's an argument that Nevada is
really teed up to become rock ribbed red.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I have a theory on West Virginia. Actually, let me
come back into the I have a theory. I think
that West Virginia data is much more important even than
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Speaker 5 (18:09):
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
We're joined by Heather McDonald, Manhattan Institute, fellow author of
When Race Trump's Merit and the War on Cops, particularly
apro po in light of today's discussion here, Heather, always
great to have you on the program.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Thank you so much. Buck, It's great to be with
you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So you must be watching this debate play out over
specifically the DC crime rate, but more broadly. Obviously, this
brings in a lot of arguments that you've heard from
the other side in the past and counter arguments that
you've been making. Are you surprised that it seems that
so many national level Democrats have fallen into the trap
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of defending the indefensible, which is the DC crime rate.
What's your perspective on this.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Well, I think this is one of the greatest moments
of the Trump presidency. His August eleventh Liberation Day speech
just sent chills down my spine, and I mean in
a good way, words like we are not going to
let it happen anymore. We're not going to take it.
We're not going to lose our cities. We're taking our
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capital back. He has finally broken fully with the dominant
ideology in America, which is to normalize the unacceptable, to
define devancy down. And Trump is saying, we are no
longer going to make excuses for crime. This is something
we can control. The Democrats have spent decades trying to
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write this off, to say, well, it's just kind of
a normal aspect of cities. A lot of this, almost
entirety of the criminal justice discourse on the Democratic side
is driven b I race considerations. They've of course played
the race card here so no, I'm not surprised. It
has just brought out their innate tendencies to normalize crime
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in an extraordinarily vivid way, and they are going to
lose the debate. There's just no question. You cannot. As
you say, they are defending the indefensible.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
There.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Their argument is a set of non secuitars. They say, well,
crime isn't bad in DC because it went down somewhat
last year. So what the fact is, are you defending
three year olds being shot fatally in the head sitting
in their car, as has happened over the last couple
of years regularly. You cannot defend that, and yet that's
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what the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Heather.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I actually thought about you on Sunday when I read
the New York Times editorial which basically said, hey, Heather
McDonald was right about everything, without saying Heather McDonald was
right about everything. I don't know if you officially read
that editorial, but let me just read to you from
the New York Times Sunday, and I want to just
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get your thoughts on the cultural wins shifting that would
allow this to occur during this is the New York
Times during the twenty twenty protests. Many progressives embrace calls
to quote defund the police, including prominent Democrats Kamala Harris
AOC Eric Garcetti, then mayor of Los Angeles, and the
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protesters had an effect. Officers were disheartened by public criticisms,
quit their jobs, police departments had staffing shortages. Overall crime surged,
and Democrats have to recognize that they were responsible for
it and their arguments created this. Did you ever think
The New York Times would say this when it came
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to policing? And what is the significance of them completely
abandoning the cultural art arguments they were making, certainly five
years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Well, the editorial board would appear to be a little
tiny island of sanity in the paper large because their
news coverage is continuing to harp on the theme that
Trump is a fascist by daring to talk about crime
in DC and worse, daring to do something about it.
And this is all just a race based ploy to
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try and go after black cities. So there's a there's
an absolute split in sensibility there. But it is a
good thing. I'll take every win I can get. It
is a good thing that the editorial board has put
out at a little strand of sanity there that says
that the police are not the problem in high crime communities.
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Criminals are. And when you demoralize the police, when you
delegitimate prosecution and arrests, there's only one thing that's going
to happen. You're not going to get peace, You're going
to get more criminal victimization. And if your claim is
and this is of course a complete hypocritical pose, but
if your claim is to care about black lives, you
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have to support the police because they are the strongest
agency in any city, in any state that is dedicated
to saving black lives. They make arrests, they deter crime.
The National Guard there is there now just to crime. Further,
it is not there as some kind of occupying force.
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It is using its command presence. And when the cops
back off, criminals take over. I have spent years going
to police community meetings in high crime there areas like
the South Side of Chicago, or Central Harlem or Brooklyn,
and all I hear from the good law abiding black
residents there, especially the elderly ladies and these fantastic cads,
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is the police are our friends. Please Jesus send or police.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah. Heather McDonald with us here from the Manhattan Institute.
War on Cops is her excellent book. Heather, you are
somebody who also not just looks at the narratives, but
looks at the stats, the numbers, and have you been
able to I know it's hard at some level because
you have to rely on the DC crime stats from DC, right,
meaning that the police, if they're cooking the books. It
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might be a little tough to see that because you
have to rely on the frontline numbers at some level
that they're putting out there. But have you looked into
that at all? Do you think it is possible and
or likely that this thirty percent crime drop, which as
you pointed out, isn't even really significant, but that that
thirty percent crime drop may be the result of some
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fudging of the numbers.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I haven't looked into that personally. It is in line
with the crime drop that we're seeing in the rest
of the country. So if it were like twice as much,
that would be a real red flag. But I can say,
you know, there's constant pressure and ironically in the police
departments that are the best run, which means the ones
that are most aggressive towards their own police commanders, that
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are demanding accountability, that are demanding that those account that
those commanders have a plan for lowering crime, and the
top brash should be monitoring their numbers on a daily,
if not hourly basis. So those precinct commanders are in
the hot seat under what was known in New York
City as the CompStat system, They're going to feel the
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most pressure to get their crime statistics down. And if
they don't have one hundred percent integrity, they're the more
likely to possibly declassify things, muck around with how you
categorize crime. The police departments that are lackadaisical, that don't
have a strong commands structure, their precin commanders are under
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less pressure. So it's a weird thing, and it's something
that departments have to fight. Your police department has a
whole unit dedicated to police integrity and going after corruption,
and it's not well loved in the department. But this
is a constant battle. I can't say in this case,
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but again I would say that conservatives should not be
pulled into this game that the liberals are playing, which
is it well because crime dropped twenty seven percent last year,
compared to its overwhelmingly high post George Floyd race riots,
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thing that everything is okay, and conservatives saying, well, it's
still been Is that a true crime jub or not.
The fact is you can concede that crime has dropped
in the last two years in Washington, d C. And
still say so what, I don't care. Is it acceptable
that every single day in Washington, D C. There were
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ten violent crimes, for ten car thefts, three juveniles shot
a day. Is that acceptable? Is it acceptable that our
homicide rate is twenty seven times that of London's and
sixty times that of Switzerland. The only possible response is
none of that is acceptable. And that is what is
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so thrilling about Trump's instincts. It's not even the details
of the plan, it's that he has instincts that are correct,
which is that any level of crime is not compatible
with a civilized society. Children being shot, cars being stolen,
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mass looting going on, the carjackings, and it's overwhelmingly juvenile.
Sixty percent of on carjackings in DC are juveniles. Trump
is correct, they are not punished. In twenty twenty three,
there were five girls ages twelve to fifteen who beat
to death a sixty four year old cancer victim weighing
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one hundred and ten pounds. They filmed themselves laughing as
they stomped and beat them to death. None of them
had long sentences. The most they're serving time is until
they're twenty one. Most of them will be out long
before that. Trump is absolutely right. DC has a soft
on crime approach that must change, just as every progressive prosecutor.
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It's all driven by not wanting it to have a
racial lead disparate impact on black criminals. All law enforcement
will simply because the crime rate is so high in DC.
Blacks commit about ninety six percent of all homicides even
though they are only forty three percent of the population.
Whites commit just under over one percent of the homicides
(28:48):
though they're thirty nine percent. You do not that should
not affect how you enforce the law. You enforce the
law to protect the law abiding, not to protect the criminals.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Not only that, Heather and the people who are the
victims overwhelmingly would be black too. So when you say, oh,
we're arresting people disproportionately for based on race, you're also
disproportionately protecting people who are race, right, because most black
murder victims are going to be killed by black murderers.
(29:26):
But last question for you here, and I love all
the data you provide. Is there a city or a state,
based on the data that you have seen, that is
handling violent crime better than any others? And do they
have policies that should be replicated nationwide? We're fortunate because
we have these fifty different federal systems so we can
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try experiments. And the idea is somebody in a state
does something good, hopefully it spreads. Is there any one
city or state that you would point to and say, boy,
from a violent crime perspective, these guys and gals are
doing great. We should be copying more of what they're
doing nationwide. Any positive out there?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Well, until recently, I would have said in New York
City because of the CompStat revolution, the accountability revolution, where
police Chief William Bratton followed up by William.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
With Sapphire, we are going are going to go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
No, No, I was a safer Kelly. I was trying
to give you the next commissioner, go ahead right right.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Kelly said, we are going to bring this down. They brought,
they brought crime and homicides down eighty percent by enforcing
the law and above all by paying attention to public disorder.
That's why also the Trump initiative against the encampments is
so important, because this is something else that simply should
not be tolerated in this city. You cannot have public
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space overcome by people urinating, defecating, shooting up drugs in public.
This is not acceptable. We cannot define devancy down. So
New York was very good in paying attention to public order,
in using its officers proactively to use their powers of
observation to stop people suspected of carrying guns. It had
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an enormous effect. They've backslid in recent years. Now they've
got a pretty good commissioner, Jessica Tish, So that's good.
But it's a constant battle, and you know, we need
we need politicians to have the basic expectation that crime
is not normal. And again, it just cannot be stated enough.
(31:41):
Bucking Clay. Trump's Liberation Day speech could be epic changing
if people get rid of the idea that they should
just accept squalor disorder and violence as the normal part
and also mass looting, mass shoplifting as simply normal parts
of America cities.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Heather McDonald, everybody always excellent. Heather, thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
So much, Thanks so much, fucking clip.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
This is something that I should talk to you about
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talkbacks and your calls and your emails at the back
of this end of this hour, So please light us
up with all of that. We always appreciate it, and
I wanted to note something. We're talking about crime and
trying to clean up street crime in these major cities.
(34:17):
What's going on in DC. I'm certainly very hopeful. I
am optimistic, beyond hopeful. I'm optimistic that what Trump is
doing is going to bear fruit there. But I would
also note on the Clay I talked about this a
bit yesterday when you stepped away to go visit our
friends at Legacy Box. On the sanctuary city situation. It's
not just about illegal status. They are willing think about
(34:40):
this everyone. They are willing to obstruct federal law enforcement
efforts to get individuals off the streets who are not
just here illegally, but who are real public safety threats
because they are so devoted to we cannot, meaning we
(35:03):
the police in Boston, the police in LA, the police
in New York, you know, we cannot be a part
of immigration stuff like like we can't be anywhere near.
So they would rather a a child predator who is
an illegal alien be back out in circulation to possibly
(35:24):
and this is this has happened, by the way. You know,
there was a woman raped and murdered Lake and Riley
who was in custody that they had the guy in custody,
they could have deported him, but they would rather not
do that. And this is where Stephen Miller of the
White House, one of the fantastic members of this Trump
White House team, this is where I think his point
is so critical. He was speaking about this. This has
(35:45):
cut three and I think this really brings it home
for everybody to understand, uh, just exactly what the Democrat
open Democrat sanctuary policies do. Play three.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
You'll have a situation where local police in Boston who'll
arrested in legalen who is a child predator, and ICE
will then send what's called a detainer request or a
whole request, and we'll say, Joe, release this person, hand
them over to ICE, and we'll remove the child predator
from our community. Instead, these sanctuary mayors will order the
police department to ignore the federal request to set them free,
(36:19):
out of the jail, out of the prison, and they
will go back into the community and then they will
re offend. They will hurt another little girl, they will
hurt another little boy, and then ICE has to spend
weeks trying to scour in the community to find this
public safety threat. What they're doing Sean is evil and
President Trump will see that they are held to account.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
For their crimes. It's it is just totally true, and
I think everyone need says but Clay, that goes to
the point if it's not just oh, we don't want
people who are oh, they're doing the jobs Americans won't do.
And all the propaganda about how everybody who comes here
illegally is about to start Google and is always volunteering
at their church, you know, baked Goods Day on Sunday
(37:00):
or something. I mean, that's what they're always saying. No,
there are people who are truly public safety threats, murderers,
gang members, rapists, child rapists who I is saying, Hey,
that guy's not even suppose guys, when we're talking about
that stuff, that guy's not even supposed to be in
the country. Can you hold them for us for a minute.
(37:23):
And the policy, the open and stated policy of these
cities is no, let the child rapists go. We can't
let immigration enforcement have him.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
This is where again I think Trump sometimes just innately
hits on things because they're basic common sense they have
got Right now at Union Station, the main train depot
in Washington, d C. Steven Miller is there and jd
(37:53):
Vance is there. They are shaking hands with the National
Guard troops who are deployed in DC. Right now, they're
protesters outside of Union Station demanding that there be less
security in Washington, DC. And I just come back to
a very basic question. Unless you are a criminal, can
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you ever remember a time in your life where you thought,
I wish there were way fewer police officers here. I'll
tell you I do a lot of public events, sporting
events in particular. There's never been a time in my
life where I have been at a big college football
game and I've thought, you know what, I wish there
(38:37):
were fewer cops here. I wish there were fewer campus
security officials. The only people who want less crime are
two people. Buck One is criminals. Because remember, producer Ali
can come up on this. The last time we were
in DC, I was going to get in a van
to do a Piers Morgan hit and producer Ali was
(38:59):
getting nervous because it was getting too close to our showtime.
Ali can pull her mic up. What did we see
in an alley as we were walking to get into
the into that.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Van at eleven fifty am, we saw a full on
drug deal going down.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Legit drug deal. Guys standing guard, We walk by the alley.
They see that we are not threats, right, We're not cops.
Middle of the day, drug deals going on. Those guys
don't want more cops around. And the only other group
that does not want more cops around is rich left
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wing activists who live in areas where they feel no
crime and have so reflexively adopted anti Trump sentiment that they.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Are just very comfortable screaming about this. And in fact
jd Vance just spoke about this cut thirty. This just
happened at Union station. Jd Vance addressing this issue directly
play it.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
Terrible crime problem. You just got to look around. Obviously,
DC has a terrible crime problem. The Department of Justice
statistics back it up, the FBI statistics back it up.
Just talk to a resident of this city, this beautiful,
great American city. Don't they deserve don't I mean we
talk about human rights. We hear these people outside screaming,
free d C. Let's free d C from wallsses. Let's
(40:22):
free Washington, d C from one of the highest murder
rates in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Let's free Washington d C.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
So that young families can walk around and feel safe
and secure. That's what we're trying to free d C from.
And as Stephens said, it's kind of bizarre that we
have a bunch of old, primarily white people who are
out there protesting the policies that keep people safe when
they've never felt danger in their entire lives.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
This is the this is the delusional, purple haired wanna
be civil rights marchers of the left. I mean, that's
what this is. They think anytime they can stand against
Trump and also anytime they can stand against police. So
unless it's January sixth related, then they want swat teams.
Isn't that amazing anyone who was involved with January sixth?
(41:07):
The Democrats across the board, they wanted to send in
swat teams, you know, flash bangs, grab them. That old
lady she walked into the open doors and she was
in there for three minutes. Let's throw flash bangs into
her house and ruin the rest of her life and
try to lock her up for years and put her
in solitary confinement. No concerns from the Democrats about police
state tactics there. But if you're part of a of
(41:29):
a you know pharh mob that murders somebody on the
streets of DC. Oh, we don't want we don't want
to hurt your you know, your future prospects in life. Like,
let's go, let's go easy on these individuals. What's going
on here? It's it's nonsense. I just I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
First of all, we talk about this a lot, and
I do think it's important politics. Oftentimes there's two different tracks.
One is is it good politically? Another is is it
good for the country? Right, I think this is a
great example of Trump nailing it on two fronts. It
is good politically to be against violent crime. It has
(42:11):
been good politically, whether you're a Democrat, Republican or an
independent to historically have been opposed to violent crime.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So it is a political benefit.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Also, fewer victims of violent crime is a good thing.
There are so many things we can sit around and
have nuanced debate about. Should I'll give you an example,
how should food stamps deal with sugary sodas and potato chips?
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Like, Okay, we canna have a real debate about that.
There's some arguments on both sides of that. I actually
think that the cutting this sugar thing is probably the better.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I think you and I are probably going to be
somewhat aligned on that. But there are reasonable arguments out
there about what you should be able to buy with
your snap funds, right like that, whether or not you
should have fewer is not a debatable thing to me. Hey,
I'm in favor of people being alive for as long
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as they possibly can. Seems like something that should be
beyond politics.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Well, the mayor of Los Angeles, Yeah, very explicitly laid
out that this is essentially a function the desire not
to enforce the law. More, here is a prominent Democrat,
a black woman who's the mayor of Los Angeles saying
that cracking down on crime in DC is well, you
know what, I'll let her say it here. She is
this is cut to play it.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And I'm concerned about the way he is rolling that
out in Washington, DC, which is essentially calling essentially going
after young black and brown youth in Washington, d C.
Imposing a curfew, saying that if they violate the curfew,
the parents could be charged five hundred dollars, saying that
the kids could be detained and arrested. We've tried those
(43:52):
policies before they do not work. And it's my understanding
that crime was going down in Washington, d C. So
what is the purpose of this?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, well, that's the irrelevancy we keep hearing, Oh, crime
is going down. Put that aside. We all know it's
too dangerous. She said all time highs. It's worth mentioning too.
So fyo, it's essentially going after black and brown youth,
is the quote that she puts out there. Okay, So
now we get to why Democrats take this very you know,
(44:21):
very emotional position as you put it out. A lot
of them are middle aged and retire aged, you know,
white democrats, yes, but they view this, they view enforcement
of the law as inherently racist. Well what does that
say about their perspective? Like she's the one saying this,
that's interesting. Well, I think just at a very baseline level,
(44:45):
that actually leads to a conversation we should be having.
Why are rates of violent crime so much higher for
black and brown people such that they end up being
arrested for rates of violent crime outside of the percentage
of their overall population. That's a real conversation that an
adult country would have, and we would try to figure
(45:07):
out adult solutions. I would also point out that a
very easy and I mentioned it with Heather MacDonald, but
a very easy counterpoint to this is why should non
criminal black and brown citizens be held hostage effectively in
their neighborhoods by criminal black and brown people. Well, you're
(45:30):
actually they're the victims of the violence that you're not
willing to end. And there's a tremendous sensitivity on the
left about for example, in New York City, Asian is
such a large asia is Here's here's a statement for everybody,
a very large place. So when you say Asian, and
(45:50):
in the context of if you watch any like UK,
you know shows, you know scripted drown throwers, say, ah,
these are Asian males. When they say Asian, they mean
South Asian over where, right, I mean, when they're talking
about South Asians in Britain, they're talking of people from India,
from Pakistan. So to say Asian is such a broad thing.
I bring this up, though, Clay, because the left would
like you to believe that poverty and lack of opportunity
(46:12):
is what leads to crime. Problem is in New York City.
They have very good data on this, and the subgroup
within Asia of Pakistani and Bangladeshi individuals, for example, have
higher poverty rates, higher poverty rates than black or Latino
New York City residents, and exponentially lower crime rates. This
(46:37):
is just the data, so it's not about just power.
It's not just a poverty thing. And now we get
into family formation. Now we get into cultural influences. Now
we get into dads being home or not. If you
control you know what I mean, I don't have this data.
If you control for households where there's a dad in
the home, get I bet the crime disparity between all
(46:59):
these different groups evaporates.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
I think that we could cure ninety percent of our
social ills in this country if dads were at home.
This is my soapbox issue, if you want to go
to where it comes from at its most baseline level.
This is one of the things that I think Thomas
Soul has done such a good job of arguing about
because they've tried to say, hey, racism is what causes
(47:23):
this crime discrepancy, this poverty issue, everything else. You go
back and you look before the civil rights movement, A
most I think it's like seventy five percent, eighty percent
of young black kids in America grew up with a
dad at home.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Think about that. Nineteen fifties America, black men were at
home with their families raising their kids. Now, I believe
it's twenty five percent of how black.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Households have a dad at home. And if you go
and overlay that data, as Buck just said, and you
look at crime rates, I think you would say overwhelmingly,
dad not home crime happens. Dad home crime comes down
because these young men, they're acting out. They have no
role models, they don't have a culture of male growth.
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Sometimes granddads try to do it, uncles try to do it,
but that void in the household of the dad. And
I'm not taking shots at single moms because I know
a lot of y'all out there are trying to do
both jobs. Young girls do better in homes without dads
than young boys do, and that is where I think
a huge percentage of this violence comes from. That's the reality,
(48:35):
and that's a conversation that a grown, healthy country would
have instead of what you got there. Karen Bass saying,
I'm concerned that if we enforce the law too many
people who are black and brown are going to be arrested.
So it's racist to enforce the law. What about all
the black and brown people who are going to be
(48:57):
victimized when you don't enforce the law.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
They have rights. I think they do. In fact, I
think they should be protected. We should protect the people
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Speaker 1 (51:08):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Union Station and we played some of the cuts of
what was going on there. Let me hit you with
a couple of these, then we'll get to some more
of your talkbacks. This was our friend Steven Miller just
a about an hour ago now on the pro crime protesters.
These are the people that are upset that Trump is
trying to decrease the amount of crime in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Cut thirty three. All these defens.
Speaker 9 (51:36):
Traders that you've seen out there in recent days, all
of these elderly white hippies, they're not part of the city.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
It never happened.
Speaker 9 (51:44):
And by the way, most of the citizens of Little
Washington see are lacked.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
This is not a city that hasn't had any safety
for its.
Speaker 9 (51:53):
Black citizens for generations. And President Trump is the one
who is fixing that with the supportant that the Peice
Department to support the National Park and our federal lawers officers.
So we're gonna ignore these stupid bike in base and
all need to go calm a ticket that because they're
all over ninety years old, and we're gonna get back
to the business of protecting the American people and the citizens.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Of Washington News.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
I know the audio wasn't perfect, but he said all
the protesters are over ninety years old, they need to
go home and take a nap buck. I will say
when we were up for the inauguration, a lot of
the protesters were old and it was cold. We've talked
about this. I kind of just felt sad for them.
We know, we felt bad driving by them. They were
not They were looking like they needed some some warm
milk and maybe a blanket. It was not a you know,
(52:40):
a ruck a sponge.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
And here, by the way, just to give you a sense,
these are the protesters. And remember, these are people protesting
there being too many people trying to decrease violent crime.
Here they are cut thirty two. If you wonder why
are Democrats hemorrhaging support, as the front page of the
New York Times put it, it's because of people like
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this cut thirty two.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
I mean, these are broken brain people. Did you hear
the shouting about about climate justice too? That that may
be the most brainless slogan.
Speaker 10 (53:37):
What does that?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I know it just means communism, But what does it
really mean to the person who's saying it? You know,
middle of the day, imagine you're like, hey, what are
you gonna do? Well, You're gonna go to work? No,
what are you gonna do? I'm gonna go protest because
there's too many police trying to drive down the violent
crime rate in Washington, DC. You know, the only the
(54:00):
only protest that I remember thinking I would go out
and march was during COVID when they made it illegal
to protest. They made it illegal to protest. Everybody they
said you can't gather, sorry, and Lloyd when they then
said everybody should show protest, And that was when any
(54:20):
person capable of thinking for themselves would have known, if
they didn't know already, Oh, this whole thing is just
a political power grab, That's all this is. But yeah,
you couldn't did you were not allowed. I would have
joined protesters outside during the You know, Clay, it's so interesting. Sorry,
I know, I get on COVID stuff and somebody were like, why,
it's one of the most important lessons of our lifetime.
(54:41):
I mean that in nine to eleven or the two
biggest impact I think, you know, Trump is really in
many ways a corrective of both of those events, the
expansive wars in the Middle East and then also dealing
with the democrat authoritarianism of COVID. But Clay, I just
think that, uh, there's there's a podcast out now. I'm
(55:03):
forgetting what it is, but it's all about how basically
fresh air and sunshine are actually truly important for your health. Uh.
And it was on the Diary of a CEO podcast.
I was listening to it's very good podcast, and they
stripped us of that while we were all getting sick.
This is why the public I'm a little disappointed. I
have not seen the sledgehammer taken to the CDC and
(55:26):
the NIH yet. Something will come back to you later.
I don't want to divert from this. We're talking Union
station protesters, but I need those places to feel the fury. Uh.
You know that there needs to be real bureaucratic reform,
real political accountability for what those health agencies did. This
is not directly Union station.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
I'm gonna get to some of your talkbacks in a sect,
but I think you're gonna like this bucket Tizon with
what we were talking about at the first segment at
the end of the last hour about the importance of
dads in the household.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
I saw this. Uh, this is camp Ward. He was
the number one overall draft pick in the NFL. Tennessee
Titan quarterback remains to be seen. How good he's going
to be in the NFL, but he gets to work
really really early before dawn, and they asked him about that.
Why do you go work so early in the morning.
(56:18):
And I want to play this cut for you guys.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
He said, if my dad can get up at four
thirty in the morning for a job he doesn't like
at all, then I can get up really early in
the morning for a job that I love. And I
think it goes to culture. It goes to the importance
of dads. Listen to that answer. I think you guys
are going to appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
I'm just a big person on work.
Speaker 10 (56:42):
I say, yes, sir, I've grown up watched my dad
boy up at four to thirty doing a job he
didn't like. So no, if I can't wake up early
and do what I need to do for a job
I do like, I shouldn't be playing football. And that
goes to everybody in locker rooms. You can't have the
expectation for yourself that you want to be, whether good
or a great player with the work in oh. I
just think that how it should go. I just think
(57:03):
that things only come to those who work.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Okay, it's very simple, but culture. I was talking about
this last night in Chattanooga. You develop in your household
a culture, and the culture can be hey, I'm always
gonna whine and point at somebody else. You develop in
your team a culture. You develop in your place of employment,
(57:26):
place of work a culture, and over time, I really
believe this. I like to think on this show we
have developed a culture overtime. Culture breeds success. And so
if your culture is telling you, hey, you can't do it,
then your culture is right. Most of the time, you're
not going to be able to do it. And if
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your culture is man, I don't like my job, but
I respect that in order to take care of my family,
I'm gonna bust my ass and I'm gonna get up
at four point thirty every morning when that alarm goes off.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I just love that answer.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
I just I love the answer of if my dad
can get up for a job he doesn't like at
four point thirty in the morning, then by god, I
can get up early for a job.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
I really like. There are a lot of variations on
this quote or this this maxim is truism, but the
life that you want is right there. You just have
to do the difficult things. You know, you need to
do to get it. That's it. Yeah, whatever that may be.
I mean overwhelmingly people know what they should be doing right,
work hard, be you know, focus, be honest with yourself,
(58:34):
be a team player, show up, show up on all
these different things. It's hard to do those things. Yeah,
you know, it's easier to not do those things. And
so any messaging that you get that encourages you to
do the hard things that you know you need to
do to get where you want to get is great.
I mean, I think this player, I'd never heard of
him before, which is not a surprise anybody. I don't
(58:55):
follow these things that close. Yeah, but I love what
he just said. So yeah, he's totally spot on either
that should be so encouraged like that. What his statement
should be something that young men across the country here
and there's a focus on and not you know the
system I'm not even talking about race issues here, but
you know the system is rigged against you, or you
(59:16):
know men are toxic or all these negative things that
you hear.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
I also think again, you're as a dad. Young men
can be an uncle, you can be a grandpa. Are
looking to you because they're trying to find a purpose
in life. And when you tell men your purpose in
life is not to be a dad, not to be
a father, not to provide for your family, you are
stripping away a huge amount of their purpose. And so
(59:41):
when you tell them that the things that make them
male historically and throughout centuries are toxic, you are basically
telling them we don't want you to be a part
of society. And I think there's a lot of men
and women out there that are becoming aware that we
have told young men that. I think they are overwhelmingly
rebelling against that idea. There's a big difference between men
(01:00:04):
and women are equal and girl power is a great
thing in the girl Boss era, you can lift up
women without tearing down men, and I think we've missed
on that to a large extent. Let's have some fun.
These are some funny talkbacks. By the way, Eric in
San Diego listening out there on Cogo? Is it co
(01:00:26):
Go or do I have to say Kogo? It should
be Cog in San Diego?
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (01:00:31):
The Left would never allow Nus and a Scarborough to
run at the same time because it would create a
worldwide hairjail shortage, and the Antifa type that spikes their
hair would just go off the deep end, crazing a
dystopian universe that would look worse than Mad Max, and
then in causing World War three to happen. So they're
gonna have to find somebody who's the bald or has
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a natural hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It's very funny. Maybe they can get Jesse Kelly to
run He's bald ff dan and in Cleveland, Ohio on
w t AM what you got for us?
Speaker 12 (01:01:07):
Just want to chime in on this thing about the
black and Hispanic crime. I believe a lot of it
has to do with the families, no bothers at all
to tell them what's right and wrong. I really do
believe poverty has something to do with it. I grew
up poor as dirt. I ain't killed nobody yet, don't
plan I'm killing nobody.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, I mean it is a. It is a They
have to explain how it happens without allowing individual responsibility
to factor in. And so, what they have decided to
settle on is poverty and racism creates violent crime. But
as you pointed out, Buck, when you actually dive into
(01:01:49):
poverty and and and crime data in New York City,
what you will see is some of the poorest immigrant communities,
particularly Asian, have some of the lowest violent crime rates
in the city. Well, poverty creates crime, how do you
explain it? And if minorities are uniquely susceptible, well, why
(01:02:11):
does racism not seem to impact Asian people? And those
become very difficult conversations. What it ultimately comes back to
is individual responsibility, which to me is the foundation in
many ways of the Republican Party. Unfortunately, Democrat Party is
absolutely devoted to no accountability for anyone as long as
they vote Democrat. You're not accountable for ruining cities, You're
(01:02:34):
not accountable for wide open borders, you're not accountable for
go down the list, the destruction of the family, all
these things. There's no accountability. Just vote Democrat and it's
always somebody else's fault, whoever you are, whether you're the
purple haired antifemaniac or you know, you're a female minority
primary voter who shows up nothing in your life that
you don't like is your fault. If you're a Democrat,
(01:02:55):
at somebody else's fault. Vote Democrat, and I think again,
and this is why I'm so optimistic And I know
I tend to be optimistic in general, but I just
see so many young men starting to ask the question,
have I really been? Have I lied to?
Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And I think COVID was a big part of it,
because if they shut down your school and you didn't
get to go to prom or finish your basketball season,
or you didn't get to play soccer or whatever sport
you love, didn't get to play football, and then you
find out that you were never in danger from COVID
and that what they told you about why you couldn't
be in school, Well, guess who got to be in school,
(01:03:32):
the rich kids at the private school. Guess who got
to go to restaurants. Gavin Newsom didn't miss many meals.
They got to hang out at the French laundry with
all his buddies, have their nice glasses of chardonnay. And
you start to think, wait a minute, maybe I need
to do my own research on what the facts are.
And I think more and more smart young men and
(01:03:53):
young women, but particularly young men, are rejecting a lot
of the lessons that they have been taught. Do something
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about a will and a trust I have this, Buck
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want to happen when we are no longer here. Maybe
you're like Buck and you just had your first baby.
Maybe you're like me and you got a couple, two,
three kids out there, Maybe your grandma or grandpa. Have
you gone through the process of letting your family know
what you want to happen after you are gone. Maybe
you're out there and you're saying, I am the peacemaker.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I'm the reason why Aunt Gladys and Uncle Phil can
sit together at the same table for Thanksgiving, because otherwise
they're going to be at everybody's throat. They're gonna be
after each other.
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Can you imagine what will happen when you rely on
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your legacy. Don't you want to take it out of
their hands and just be able to make the choices
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Clay. Have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
a trendy new workout, Buck, it does, but it's actually
a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name
is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and
South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.
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inside intel? Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact,
a major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations
aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
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These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
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Speaker 2 (01:44):
Welcome in Wednesday edition. Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Had
an awesome time speaking to the young Republicans of Hamilton County,
that is Chattanooga last night. Visit it with our friend's
legacy box toward their incredible facility. Maybe talk a little
bit more about that later, but just wanted to say
(02:05):
off the top, thanks to everybody out there who was
listening in that area. Had a great time meeting with
all of you, and there are a lot more of
you every single day that are joining team Clay and Buck,
team Sanity, Team Republican.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You could probably feel it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
We will talk with Heather McDonald by the way, next
hour about the latest on the crime situation DC in particular.
But what exactly is happening when it comes to violent
crime in this country? What is the data show us.
Heather McDonald's one of the top experts in the country,
so we will discuss that. But Buck, this is one
of those days where it pays off to be me
(02:45):
where you start off your morning with a nice Crocket
coffee sitting down in front of the newspaper selection opening
it up, usually the New York Times, not exactly renowned
for its positive stories relating to the report Publican party.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Can I just say drinking Crockett Clay is like putting
on the leather bib before you get the X ray
at the dentist. Like, if you're drinking Crockett the communist
New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And by the way, I just want I do it
so you don't have to. This is me taking this time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It lead, not leather, sorry, leather lead bib led bib.
I was thinking what does the leather do? But I
was the leather with Crockett connection. I thought I might
be missing something. I do it so most of you
do not have to.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
But this is a headline in New York Times today,
And I'm looking at what the headline is in the
digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline.
Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing red alert. What
the voter registration data shows? Subheading, and there's a big
(03:55):
graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support
beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is
a big article. This is the feature for the New
York Times. And listen to this open buck, you don't
hear it opens like these. And I thought it was
interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an
(04:18):
entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, yeah, Clay
and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and
basically write about everything on crime, And maybe we should
have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's
basically what the New York Times said in their editorial.
Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long
(04:42):
before they even go to the polls of the thirty
states that track voter registration by political party. Democrats lost
ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Elections, often by a lot. That four year swing towards
Republicans adds up to four point five million voters, a
deep political whole that could take years for Democrats to
climb out from. And then Buck, there is a graphic
showing you Democrats losing ground in all thirty states while
(05:22):
Republicans are gaining ground. And again one more paragraph here
just to contextualize, so you know what Democrats are reading
this morning. The stampede away from the Democrat Party is
occurring in battleground states, the bluest states and the reddest
states too, according to voter registration data analyzed by the
(05:44):
New York Times. And the data comes from a non
part isan data factory. So this is interesting when you
think about Buck, what is going on in a larger country.
I feel like I've seen it for a while because
the Democrat Party, it's basically an insult to call someone
(06:07):
a Democrat if you're a young man. We made jokes
about this when I uh fraternities. Instead of making jokes
about your mom. With the banners outside of the house
this fall, we're saying their opponents vote Democrat. The culture
has shifted in a major way. Yes. Now, if you're
at the frat house and some guy swings and misses,
(06:27):
you say, you swing that wiffleball bat like Democrat. It's
not good. It's not good. Yeah. And this whole article
to look the data in the I'm gonna tell you
this right now. This article is a joy. It is
a joy to read. I read it more than once,
that's how much. And this is a New York Times,
a big piece from the New York Times. This is
injected straight into my veins. Take this data and put
(06:51):
it right into the heart of the American populace. This
is great stuff. Some of the things I pulled from
this in the specific, the long and the short of it,
as you out, is party registration, which Democrats are used
to having an advantage, and one of the reasons why
they didn't really detail this in the article is Democrats
have been running this voter registration industrial complex that is
(07:15):
a non that they use nonprofits so tax advantaged here. Okay,
they're using nonprofits in order to get people to sign
up and vote, but they do it in a way
that they know they're going to get more Democrats, right,
So it's, oh, we're just to get out the vote effort, right,
And you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff,
(07:35):
but it's always wink wink, we're going to do this
in you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles,
like they're doing it in places where they figure we're
going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well, the
problem is now they can't count play on just a
blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're going
(07:56):
after let's say Latino voters. Uh, they can't count on
it benefiting Democrats. So they're going to hold on a second,
our scam isn't working the way that it used to.
Miami Dade County, for example, the number of active Republican
voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the Republican nominee.
(08:18):
As recently as November twenty twenty, my home county of
Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred thousand in
one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah, there
are you know, most counties don't even have, you know,
the two hundred thousand voters. I mean, you see this
North Carolina state records show the Democrat advantage. There was
(08:42):
four hundred thousand in twenty twenty. It's now basically more
or less a tide that they've got seventeen thousand voters.
I mean that's like not not going to make a
huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for
Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it
is right, there is a four alarm fire. Five alarm fire.
(09:02):
We got a lot of firefighters. You guys can write
it and tell I think it's five alarm, right, I
think it's five alarm right. I think that's a big
scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire for Democrats.
For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying all of this.
This is fantastic and it goes to everything we talk about,
as you said, the anti masculine, anti white misjudging, the
(09:23):
Latino misjudging the young black male vote. I mean they
they are in free fall and the great thing is play.
There's no signs of its stopping. It just keeps getting worse,
and they won't change their messaging. They keep pushing for
let's have you know two hundred pound guys playing on
the women's athletics team in high school.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, and I do think this is a So, by
the way, one bit of news on this thirty states,
you might be saying, Okay, what happened in the other
twenty states. The other twenty states don't have party official registration.
So in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk
in on a prim and pick which side you want
(10:02):
to vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some
places have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty
states do not, so they only have a thirty state
data set. But this, to me, buck it corresponds with
all fifty states moved to redder. If all thirty states
(10:22):
are hemorrhaging Democrats such that the New York Times is
writing about it and adding Republicans, it is a sign
of a profound cultural shift. And I think the numbers
are actually going to get worse. And this is why
we had this conversation. In the wake of losing in
twenty twenty four, Democrats had a real choice. Do we
(10:44):
look ourselves in the mirror and say, boy, voters by
and large rejected us, or do they say this is
just a sign that our message is not getting through.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Those are the only two paths. Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The first one is hard because it requires you to say, boy,
this is on us. The second one you put it
on the voters. I think we've gotten a result so far,
six months after Trump won, Democrats have decided their message
just didn't get through, and they have, as a result, doubled, tripled,
(11:25):
quadrupled down on crazy. And they're saying, well, they're ignoring
the fact that Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact
that voters I believe heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the
arguments being made by the Democrat Party and overwhelmingly chose
(11:46):
the Republican Party instead. And here's what I think is
particularly ominous, Buck. I think there are two things that
are particularly ominous about this data. One, the two most
Republican groups in the twenty twenty four election were men
under thirty and men over sixty five. I bet that
(12:06):
has never happened in the history of this country. And
I think a lot of people are still not recognizing it,
which means that the data, as kids are getting younger,
instead of working in Democrat favor, is actually working against them.
And I'll come into the Travis Holts household and give
you an example on this. My fourteen year old blew
(12:27):
my mind because I'm I can't believe that I'm going
to have two grown adult sons by the next election.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
He told me right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all
my friends cannot wait to be eighteen so we can
vote against Democrats in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen
year old boys that will be eighteen. This is right now,
rising ninth graders, and there's a lot of these kids.
(12:54):
They are overwhelmingly indexing a Republican just like their older
brothers did, just like is happening out there. So I
think the numbers are getting worse. That's point one for
younger two. And this is really transformative. And I know
a lot of you out there are part of this group. Asian,
Hispanic and Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican
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side because culturally they are more male than they are
Democrat and that men are saying we're done with the craziness.
So I think both of those things are huge, not
only now but looking forward, and just from a pure
power perspective, the general belief is that after a presidential election,
especially a tightly contested hotly contested one, oh Republicans or
(13:42):
rather the party in power Republicans in this case, will
get smacked down in the midterms. And just also the
overall political trend, because when you're in power, it's easy
for people to say you're not doing a good enough
job of this, and you messed that up, and you know,
to be the political complainers. Tends to work, right that
(14:03):
the opposition party gets to say you're not delivering. And
we've gotten used to that as our framework for politics
in this country, certainly at the national level. Here's and
let me add that happened in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen.
Going into that twenty eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered.
They hadn't built the wall, they hadn't done this and that,
and they were able to get substantial gains in twenty
(14:24):
eighteen in the House, and the Democrats were really fired
up obviously about twenty twenty. You could tell already by
that midterm Clay that's not happening this time. And this
is what I think is so concerning to the Democrats
and so amazing for the rest of us, is that
they're not seeing the general the general prevailing trends post
(14:46):
this election are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back,
Democrats are going to counterattack here. It's getting worse for them.
Trump's been president for seven months and things are getting
better for Trump and for Democrats right away in all
the numbers and all the metrics that they can see.
I mean, here's one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada,
(15:10):
North Carolina, Pennsylvania. Democrats are losing support in all of
those states and continuing to bleed support based on voter
register member not all states have voter registration. What is it.
It's like, uh, thirty thirty out of thirty out of fifty,
so I'm not not as anything in my state, So
(15:30):
twenty do not thirty two Based on those thirty states,
though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
really important states. Democrats are still losing support when it
comes to voter registration in those places. And they're also
losing support when you look at voter switches, people that
were Democrats and come to Republican side, or Republicans who
(15:53):
go in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the
Democrat Party. I don't know how this article could be
worse for Democrats. That's right now. Quiet. There was not
a single silver lining anywhere anywhere, full stop. It was
a total. It was a delicious nightmare for them. I
loved everything. By the way. One state that I think
is not getting enough attention that is emblematic of this,
maybe more than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the
(16:16):
steepest percentage point plunge of any state other than West Virginia.
West Virginia's pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the
Republican Party. I think there's an argument that Nevada is
really teed up to become rock ribbed red.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I have a theory on West Virginia. Actually, let me
come back into the I have a theory. I think
that West Virginia data is much more important even than
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Today, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Mike drops that never
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
We're joined by Heather McDonald, Manhattan Institute, fellow author of
When Race Trump's Merit and the War on Cops, particularly
apro po in light of today's discussion here, Heather, always
great to have you on the program.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Thank you so much. Buck, It's great to be with
you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So you must be watching this debate play out over
specifically the DC crime rate, but more broadly. Obviously, this
brings in a lot of arguments that you've heard from
the other side in the past and counter arguments that
you've been making. Are you surprised that it seems that
so many national level Democrats have fallen into the trap
(18:58):
of defending the indefensible, which is the DC crime rate.
What's your perspective on this.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Well, I think this is one of the greatest moments
of the Trump presidency. His August eleventh Liberation Day speech
just sent chills down my spine, and I mean in
a good way, words like we are not going to
let it happen anymore. We're not going to take it.
We're not going to lose our cities. We're taking our
(19:25):
capital back. He has finally broken fully with the dominant
ideology in America, which is to normalize the unacceptable, to
define devancy down. And Trump is saying, we are no
longer going to make excuses for crime. This is something
we can control. The Democrats have spent decades trying to
(19:48):
write this off, to say, well, it's just kind of
a normal aspect of cities. A lot of this, almost
entirety of the criminal justice discourse on the Democratic side
is driven b I race considerations. They've of course played
the race card here so no, I'm not surprised. It
has just brought out their innate tendencies to normalize crime
(20:12):
in an extraordinarily vivid way, and they are going to
lose the debate. There's just no question. You cannot. As
you say, they are defending the indefensible.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
There.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Their argument is a set of non secuitars. They say, well,
crime isn't bad in DC because it went down somewhat
last year. So what the fact is, are you defending
three year olds being shot fatally in the head sitting
in their car, as has happened over the last couple
of years regularly. You cannot defend that, and yet that's
(20:47):
what the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Heather.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I actually thought about you on Sunday when I read
the New York Times editorial which basically said, hey, Heather
McDonald was right about everything, without saying Heather McDonald was
right about everything. I don't know if you officially read
that editorial, but let me just read to you from
the New York Times Sunday, and I want to just
(21:10):
get your thoughts on the cultural wins shifting that would
allow this to occur during this is the New York
Times during the twenty twenty protests. Many progressives embrace calls
to quote defund the police, including prominent Democrats Kamala Harris
AOC Eric Garcetti, then mayor of Los Angeles, and the
(21:31):
protesters had an effect. Officers were disheartened by public criticisms,
quit their jobs, police departments had staffing shortages. Overall crime surged,
and Democrats have to recognize that they were responsible for
it and their arguments created this. Did you ever think
The New York Times would say this when it came
(21:52):
to policing? And what is the significance of them completely
abandoning the cultural art arguments they were making, certainly five
years ago.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
Well, the editorial board would appear to be a little
tiny island of sanity in the paper large because their
news coverage is continuing to harp on the theme that
Trump is a fascist by daring to talk about crime
in DC and worse, daring to do something about it.
And this is all just a race based ploy to
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try and go after black cities. So there's a there's
an absolute split in sensibility there. But it is a
good thing. I'll take every win I can get. It
is a good thing that the editorial board has put
out at a little strand of sanity there that says
that the police are not the problem in high crime communities.
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Criminals are. And when you demoralize the police, when you
delegitimate prosecution and arrests, there's only one thing that's going
to happen. You're not going to get peace, You're going
to get more criminal victimization. And if your claim is
and this is of course a complete hypocritical pose, but
if your claim is to care about black lives, you
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have to support the police because they are the strongest
agency in any city, in any state that is dedicated
to saving black lives. They make arrests, they deter crime.
The National Guard there is there now just to crime. Further,
it is not there as some kind of occupying force.
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It is using its command presence. And when the cops
back off, criminals take over. I have spent years going
to police community meetings in high crime there areas like
the South Side of Chicago, or Central Harlem or Brooklyn,
and all I hear from the good law abiding black
residents there, especially the elderly ladies and these fantastic cads,
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is the police are our friends. Please Jesus send or police.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah. Heather McDonald with us here from the Manhattan Institute.
War on Cops is her excellent book. Heather, you are
somebody who also not just looks at the narratives, but
looks at the stats, the numbers, and have you been
able to I know it's hard at some level because
you have to rely on the DC crime stats from DC, right,
meaning that the police, if they're cooking the books. It
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might be a little tough to see that because you
have to rely on the frontline numbers at some level
that they're putting out there. But have you looked into
that at all? Do you think it is possible and
or likely that this thirty percent crime drop, which as
you pointed out, isn't even really significant, but that that
thirty percent crime drop may be the result of some
(24:45):
fudging of the numbers.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I haven't looked into that personally. It is in line
with the crime drop that we're seeing in the rest
of the country. So if it were like twice as much,
that would be a real red flag. But I can say,
you know, there's constant pressure and ironically in the police
departments that are the best run, which means the ones
that are most aggressive towards their own police commanders, that
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are demanding accountability, that are demanding that those account that
those commanders have a plan for lowering crime, and the
top brash should be monitoring their numbers on a daily,
if not hourly basis. So those precinct commanders are in
the hot seat under what was known in New York
City as the CompStat system, They're going to feel the
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most pressure to get their crime statistics down. And if
they don't have one hundred percent integrity, they're the more
likely to possibly declassify things, muck around with how you
categorize crime. The police departments that are lackadaisical, that don't
have a strong commands structure, their precin commanders are under
(25:54):
less pressure. So it's a weird thing, and it's something
that departments have to fight. Your police department has a
whole unit dedicated to police integrity and going after corruption,
and it's not well loved in the department. But this
is a constant battle. I can't say in this case,
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but again I would say that conservatives should not be
pulled into this game that the liberals are playing, which
is it well because crime dropped twenty seven percent last year,
compared to its overwhelmingly high post George Floyd race riots,
(26:35):
thing that everything is okay, and conservatives saying, well, it's
still been Is that a true crime jub or not.
The fact is you can concede that crime has dropped
in the last two years in Washington, d C. And
still say so what, I don't care. Is it acceptable
that every single day in Washington, D C. There were
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ten violent crimes, for ten car thefts, three juveniles shot
a day. Is that acceptable? Is it acceptable that our
homicide rate is twenty seven times that of London's and
sixty times that of Switzerland. The only possible response is
none of that is acceptable. And that is what is
(27:19):
so thrilling about Trump's instincts. It's not even the details
of the plan, it's that he has instincts that are correct,
which is that any level of crime is not compatible
with a civilized society. Children being shot, cars being stolen,
(27:40):
mass looting going on, the carjackings, and it's overwhelmingly juvenile.
Sixty percent of on carjackings in DC are juveniles. Trump
is correct, they are not punished. In twenty twenty three,
there were five girls ages twelve to fifteen who beat
to death a sixty four year old cancer victim weighing
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one hundred and ten pounds. They filmed themselves laughing as
they stomped and beat them to death. None of them
had long sentences. The most they're serving time is until
they're twenty one. Most of them will be out long
before that. Trump is absolutely right. DC has a soft
on crime approach that must change, just as every progressive prosecutor.
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It's all driven by not wanting it to have a
racial lead disparate impact on black criminals. All law enforcement
will simply because the crime rate is so high in DC.
Blacks commit about ninety six percent of all homicides even
though they are only forty three percent of the population.
Whites commit just under over one percent of the homicides
(28:48):
though they're thirty nine percent. You do not that should
not affect how you enforce the law. You enforce the
law to protect the law abiding, not to protect the criminals.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Not only that, Heather and the people who are the
victims overwhelmingly would be black too. So when you say, oh,
we're arresting people disproportionately for based on race, you're also
disproportionately protecting people who are race, right, because most black
murder victims are going to be killed by black murderers.
(29:26):
But last question for you here, and I love all
the data you provide. Is there a city or a state,
based on the data that you have seen, that is
handling violent crime better than any others? And do they
have policies that should be replicated nationwide? We're fortunate because
we have these fifty different federal systems so we can
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try experiments. And the idea is somebody in a state
does something good, hopefully it spreads. Is there any one
city or state that you would point to and say, boy,
from a violent crime perspective, these guys and gals are
doing great. We should be copying more of what they're
doing nationwide. Any positive out there?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Well, until recently, I would have said in New York
City because of the CompStat revolution, the accountability revolution, where
police Chief William Bratton followed up by William.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
With Sapphire, we are going are going to go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
No, No, I was a safer Kelly. I was trying
to give you the next commissioner, go ahead right right.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Kelly said, we are going to bring this down. They brought,
they brought crime and homicides down eighty percent by enforcing
the law and above all by paying attention to public disorder.
That's why also the Trump initiative against the encampments is
so important, because this is something else that simply should
not be tolerated in this city. You cannot have public
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space overcome by people urinating, defecating, shooting up drugs in public.
This is not acceptable. We cannot define devancy down. So
New York was very good in paying attention to public order,
in using its officers proactively to use their powers of
observation to stop people suspected of carrying guns. It had
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an enormous effect. They've backslid in recent years. Now they've
got a pretty good commissioner, Jessica Tish, So that's good.
But it's a constant battle, and you know, we need
we need politicians to have the basic expectation that crime
is not normal. And again, it just cannot be stated enough.
(31:41):
Bucking Clay. Trump's Liberation Day speech could be epic changing
if people get rid of the idea that they should
just accept squalor disorder and violence as the normal part
and also mass looting, mass shoplifting as simply normal parts
of America cities.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Heather McDonald, everybody always excellent. Heather, thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
So much, Thanks so much, fucking clip.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
This is something that I should talk to you about
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of this end of this hour, So please light us
up with all of that. We always appreciate it, and
I wanted to note something. We're talking about crime and
trying to clean up street crime in these major cities.
(34:17):
What's going on in DC. I'm certainly very hopeful. I
am optimistic, beyond hopeful. I'm optimistic that what Trump is
doing is going to bear fruit there. But I would
also note on the Clay I talked about this a
bit yesterday when you stepped away to go visit our
friends at Legacy Box. On the sanctuary city situation. It's
not just about illegal status. They are willing think about
(34:40):
this everyone. They are willing to obstruct federal law enforcement
efforts to get individuals off the streets who are not
just here illegally, but who are real public safety threats
because they are so devoted to we cannot, meaning we
(35:03):
the police in Boston, the police in LA, the police
in New York, you know, we cannot be a part
of immigration stuff like like we can't be anywhere near.
So they would rather a a child predator who is
an illegal alien be back out in circulation to possibly
(35:24):
and this is this has happened, by the way. You know,
there was a woman raped and murdered Lake and Riley
who was in custody that they had the guy in custody,
they could have deported him, but they would rather not
do that. And this is where Stephen Miller of the
White House, one of the fantastic members of this Trump
White House team, this is where I think his point
is so critical. He was speaking about this. This has
(35:45):
cut three and I think this really brings it home
for everybody to understand, uh, just exactly what the Democrat
open Democrat sanctuary policies do. Play three.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
You'll have a situation where local police in Boston who'll
arrested in legalen who is a child predator, and ICE
will then send what's called a detainer request or a
whole request, and we'll say, Joe, release this person, hand
them over to ICE, and we'll remove the child predator
from our community. Instead, these sanctuary mayors will order the
police department to ignore the federal request to set them free,
(36:19):
out of the jail, out of the prison, and they
will go back into the community and then they will
re offend. They will hurt another little girl, they will
hurt another little boy, and then ICE has to spend
weeks trying to scour in the community to find this
public safety threat. What they're doing Sean is evil and
President Trump will see that they are held to account.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
For their crimes. It's it is just totally true, and
I think everyone need says but Clay, that goes to
the point if it's not just oh, we don't want
people who are oh, they're doing the jobs Americans won't do.
And all the propaganda about how everybody who comes here
illegally is about to start Google and is always volunteering
at their church, you know, baked Goods Day on Sunday
(37:00):
or something. I mean, that's what they're always saying. No,
there are people who are truly public safety threats, murderers,
gang members, rapists, child rapists who I is saying, Hey,
that guy's not even suppose guys, when we're talking about
that stuff, that guy's not even supposed to be in
the country. Can you hold them for us for a minute.
(37:23):
And the policy, the open and stated policy of these
cities is no, let the child rapists go. We can't
let immigration enforcement have him.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
This is where again I think Trump sometimes just innately
hits on things because they're basic common sense they have
got Right now at Union Station, the main train depot
in Washington, d C. Steven Miller is there and jd
(37:53):
Vance is there. They are shaking hands with the National
Guard troops who are deployed in DC. Right now, they're
protesters outside of Union Station demanding that there be less
security in Washington, DC. And I just come back to
a very basic question. Unless you are a criminal, can
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you ever remember a time in your life where you thought,
I wish there were way fewer police officers here. I'll
tell you I do a lot of public events, sporting
events in particular. There's never been a time in my
life where I have been at a big college football
game and I've thought, you know what, I wish there
(38:37):
were fewer cops here. I wish there were fewer campus
security officials. The only people who want less crime are
two people. Buck One is criminals. Because remember, producer Ali
can come up on this. The last time we were
in DC, I was going to get in a van
to do a Piers Morgan hit and producer Ali was
(38:59):
getting nervous because it was getting too close to our showtime.
Ali can pull her mic up. What did we see
in an alley as we were walking to get into
the into that.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Van at eleven fifty am, we saw a full on
drug deal going down.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Legit drug deal. Guys standing guard, We walk by the alley.
They see that we are not threats, right, We're not cops.
Middle of the day, drug deals going on. Those guys
don't want more cops around. And the only other group
that does not want more cops around is rich left
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wing activists who live in areas where they feel no
crime and have so reflexively adopted anti Trump sentiment that they.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Are just very comfortable screaming about this. And in fact
jd Vance just spoke about this cut thirty. This just
happened at Union station. Jd Vance addressing this issue directly
play it.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
Terrible crime problem. You just got to look around. Obviously,
DC has a terrible crime problem. The Department of Justice
statistics back it up, the FBI statistics back it up.
Just talk to a resident of this city, this beautiful,
great American city. Don't they deserve don't I mean we
talk about human rights. We hear these people outside screaming,
free d C. Let's free d C from wallsses. Let's
(40:22):
free Washington, d C from one of the highest murder
rates in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Let's free Washington d C.
Speaker 8 (40:28):
So that young families can walk around and feel safe
and secure. That's what we're trying to free d C from.
And as Stephens said, it's kind of bizarre that we
have a bunch of old, primarily white people who are
out there protesting the policies that keep people safe when
they've never felt danger in their entire lives.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
This is the this is the delusional, purple haired wanna
be civil rights marchers of the left. I mean, that's
what this is. They think anytime they can stand against
Trump and also anytime they can stand against police. So
unless it's January sixth related, then they want swat teams.
Isn't that amazing anyone who was involved with January sixth?
(41:07):
The Democrats across the board, they wanted to send in
swat teams, you know, flash bangs, grab them. That old
lady she walked into the open doors and she was
in there for three minutes. Let's throw flash bangs into
her house and ruin the rest of her life and
try to lock her up for years and put her
in solitary confinement. No concerns from the Democrats about police
state tactics there. But if you're part of a of
(41:29):
a you know pharh mob that murders somebody on the
streets of DC. Oh, we don't want we don't want
to hurt your you know, your future prospects in life. Like,
let's go, let's go easy on these individuals. What's going
on here? It's it's nonsense. I just I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
First of all, we talk about this a lot, and
I do think it's important politics. Oftentimes there's two different tracks.
One is is it good politically? Another is is it
good for the country? Right, I think this is a
great example of Trump nailing it on two fronts. It
is good politically to be against violent crime. It has
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been good politically, whether you're a Democrat, Republican or an
independent to historically have been opposed to violent crime.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So it is a political benefit.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Also, fewer victims of violent crime is a good thing.
There are so many things we can sit around and
have nuanced debate about. Should I'll give you an example,
how should food stamps deal with sugary sodas and potato chips?
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Like, Okay, we canna have a real debate about that.
There's some arguments on both sides of that. I actually
think that the cutting this sugar thing is probably the better.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I think you and I are probably going to be
somewhat aligned on that. But there are reasonable arguments out
there about what you should be able to buy with
your snap funds, right like that, whether or not you
should have fewer is not a debatable thing to me. Hey,
I'm in favor of people being alive for as long
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as they possibly can. Seems like something that should be
beyond politics.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Well, the mayor of Los Angeles, Yeah, very explicitly laid
out that this is essentially a function the desire not
to enforce the law. More, here is a prominent Democrat,
a black woman who's the mayor of Los Angeles saying
that cracking down on crime in DC is well, you
know what, I'll let her say it here. She is
this is cut to play it.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And I'm concerned about the way he is rolling that
out in Washington, DC, which is essentially calling essentially going
after young black and brown youth in Washington, d C.
Imposing a curfew, saying that if they violate the curfew,
the parents could be charged five hundred dollars, saying that
the kids could be detained and arrested. We've tried those
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policies before they do not work. And it's my understanding
that crime was going down in Washington, d C. So
what is the purpose of this?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, well, that's the irrelevancy we keep hearing, Oh, crime
is going down. Put that aside. We all know it's
too dangerous. She said all time highs. It's worth mentioning too.
So fyo, it's essentially going after black and brown youth,
is the quote that she puts out there. Okay, So
now we get to why Democrats take this very you know,
(44:21):
very emotional position as you put it out. A lot
of them are middle aged and retire aged, you know,
white democrats, yes, but they view this, they view enforcement
of the law as inherently racist. Well what does that
say about their perspective? Like she's the one saying this,
that's interesting. Well, I think just at a very baseline level,
(44:45):
that actually leads to a conversation we should be having.
Why are rates of violent crime so much higher for
black and brown people such that they end up being
arrested for rates of violent crime outside of the percentage
of their overall population. That's a real conversation that an
adult country would have, and we would try to figure
(45:07):
out adult solutions. I would also point out that a
very easy and I mentioned it with Heather MacDonald, but
a very easy counterpoint to this is why should non
criminal black and brown citizens be held hostage effectively in
their neighborhoods by criminal black and brown people. Well, you're
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actually they're the victims of the violence that you're not
willing to end. And there's a tremendous sensitivity on the
left about for example, in New York City, Asian is
such a large asia is Here's here's a statement for everybody,
a very large place. So when you say Asian, and
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in the context of if you watch any like UK,
you know shows, you know scripted drown throwers, say, ah,
these are Asian males. When they say Asian, they mean
South Asian over where, right, I mean, when they're talking
about South Asians in Britain, they're talking of people from India,
from Pakistan. So to say Asian is such a broad thing.
I bring this up, though, Clay, because the left would
like you to believe that poverty and lack of opportunity
(46:12):
is what leads to crime. Problem is in New York City.
They have very good data on this, and the subgroup
within Asia of Pakistani and Bangladeshi individuals, for example, have
higher poverty rates, higher poverty rates than black or Latino
New York City residents, and exponentially lower crime rates. This
(46:37):
is just the data, so it's not about just power.
It's not just a poverty thing. And now we get
into family formation. Now we get into cultural influences. Now
we get into dads being home or not. If you
control you know what I mean, I don't have this data.
If you control for households where there's a dad in
the home, get I bet the crime disparity between all
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these different groups evaporates.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
I think that we could cure ninety percent of our
social ills in this country if dads were at home.
This is my soapbox issue, if you want to go
to where it comes from at its most baseline level.
This is one of the things that I think Thomas
Soul has done such a good job of arguing about
because they've tried to say, hey, racism is what causes
(47:23):
this crime discrepancy, this poverty issue, everything else. You go
back and you look before the civil rights movement, A
most I think it's like seventy five percent, eighty percent
of young black kids in America grew up with a
dad at home.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Think about that. Nineteen fifties America, black men were at
home with their families raising their kids. Now, I believe
it's twenty five percent of how black.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Households have a dad at home. And if you go
and overlay that data, as Buck just said, and you
look at crime rates, I think you would say overwhelmingly,
dad not home crime happens. Dad home crime comes down
because these young men, they're acting out. They have no
role models, they don't have a culture of male growth.
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Sometimes granddads try to do it, uncles try to do it,
but that void in the household of the dad. And
I'm not taking shots at single moms because I know
a lot of y'all out there are trying to do
both jobs. Young girls do better in homes without dads
than young boys do, and that is where I think
a huge percentage of this violence comes from. That's the reality,
(48:35):
and that's a conversation that a grown, healthy country would
have instead of what you got there. Karen Bass saying,
I'm concerned that if we enforce the law too many
people who are black and brown are going to be arrested.
So it's racist to enforce the law. What about all
the black and brown people who are going to be
(48:57):
victimized when you don't enforce the law.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
They have rights. I think they do. In fact, I
think they should be protected. We should protect the people
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Union Station and we played some of the cuts of
what was going on there. Let me hit you with
a couple of these, then we'll get to some more
of your talkbacks. This was our friend Steven Miller just
a about an hour ago now on the pro crime protesters.
These are the people that are upset that Trump is
trying to decrease the amount of crime in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Cut thirty three. All these defens.
Speaker 9 (51:36):
Traders that you've seen out there in recent days, all
of these elderly white hippies, they're not part of the city.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
It never happened.
Speaker 9 (51:44):
And by the way, most of the citizens of Little
Washington see are lacked.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
This is not a city that hasn't had any safety
for its.
Speaker 9 (51:53):
Black citizens for generations. And President Trump is the one
who is fixing that with the supportant that the Peice
Department to support the National Park and our federal lawers officers.
So we're gonna ignore these stupid bike in base and
all need to go calm a ticket that because they're
all over ninety years old, and we're gonna get back
to the business of protecting the American people and the citizens.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Of Washington News.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
I know the audio wasn't perfect, but he said all
the protesters are over ninety years old, they need to
go home and take a nap buck. I will say
when we were up for the inauguration, a lot of
the protesters were old and it was cold. We've talked
about this. I kind of just felt sad for them.
We know, we felt bad driving by them. They were
not They were looking like they needed some some warm
milk and maybe a blanket. It was not a you know,
(52:40):
a ruck a sponge.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
And here, by the way, just to give you a sense,
these are the protesters. And remember, these are people protesting
there being too many people trying to decrease violent crime.
Here they are cut thirty two. If you wonder why
are Democrats hemorrhaging support, as the front page of the
New York Times put it, it's because of people like
(53:06):
this cut thirty two.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
I mean, these are broken brain people. Did you hear
the shouting about about climate justice too? That that may
be the most brainless slogan.
Speaker 10 (53:37):
What does that?
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I know it just means communism, But what does it
really mean to the person who's saying it? You know,
middle of the day, imagine you're like, hey, what are
you gonna do? Well, You're gonna go to work? No,
what are you gonna do? I'm gonna go protest because
there's too many police trying to drive down the violent
crime rate in Washington, DC. You know, the only the
(54:00):
only protest that I remember thinking I would go out
and march was during COVID when they made it illegal
to protest. They made it illegal to protest. Everybody they
said you can't gather, sorry, and Lloyd when they then
said everybody should show protest, And that was when any
(54:20):
person capable of thinking for themselves would have known, if
they didn't know already, Oh, this whole thing is just
a political power grab, That's all this is. But yeah,
you couldn't did you were not allowed. I would have
joined protesters outside during the You know, Clay, it's so interesting. Sorry,
I know, I get on COVID stuff and somebody were like, why,
it's one of the most important lessons of our lifetime.
(54:41):
I mean that in nine to eleven or the two
biggest impact I think, you know, Trump is really in
many ways a corrective of both of those events, the
expansive wars in the Middle East and then also dealing
with the democrat authoritarianism of COVID. But Clay, I just
think that, uh, there's there's a podcast out now. I'm
(55:03):
forgetting what it is, but it's all about how basically
fresh air and sunshine are actually truly important for your health. Uh.
And it was on the Diary of a CEO podcast.
I was listening to it's very good podcast, and they
stripped us of that while we were all getting sick.
This is why the public I'm a little disappointed. I
have not seen the sledgehammer taken to the CDC and
(55:26):
the NIH yet. Something will come back to you later.
I don't want to divert from this. We're talking Union
station protesters, but I need those places to feel the fury. Uh.
You know that there needs to be real bureaucratic reform,
real political accountability for what those health agencies did. This
is not directly Union station.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
I'm gonna get to some of your talkbacks in a sect,
but I think you're gonna like this bucket Tizon with
what we were talking about at the first segment at
the end of the last hour about the importance of
dads in the household.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
I saw this. Uh, this is camp Ward. He was
the number one overall draft pick in the NFL. Tennessee
Titan quarterback remains to be seen. How good he's going
to be in the NFL, but he gets to work
really really early before dawn, and they asked him about that.
Why do you go work so early in the morning.
(56:18):
And I want to play this cut for you guys.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
He said, if my dad can get up at four
thirty in the morning for a job he doesn't like
at all, then I can get up really early in
the morning for a job that I love. And I
think it goes to culture. It goes to the importance
of dads. Listen to that answer. I think you guys
are going to appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
I'm just a big person on work.
Speaker 10 (56:42):
I say, yes, sir, I've grown up watched my dad
boy up at four to thirty doing a job he
didn't like. So no, if I can't wake up early
and do what I need to do for a job
I do like, I shouldn't be playing football. And that
goes to everybody in locker rooms. You can't have the
expectation for yourself that you want to be, whether good
or a great player with the work in oh. I
just think that how it should go. I just think
(57:03):
that things only come to those who work.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Okay, it's very simple, but culture. I was talking about
this last night in Chattanooga. You develop in your household
a culture, and the culture can be hey, I'm always
gonna whine and point at somebody else. You develop in
your team a culture. You develop in your place of employment,
(57:26):
place of work a culture, and over time, I really
believe this. I like to think on this show we
have developed a culture overtime. Culture breeds success. And so
if your culture is telling you, hey, you can't do it,
then your culture is right. Most of the time, you're
not going to be able to do it. And if
(57:47):
your culture is man, I don't like my job, but
I respect that in order to take care of my family,
I'm gonna bust my ass and I'm gonna get up
at four point thirty every morning when that alarm goes off.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
I just love that answer.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
I just I love the answer of if my dad
can get up for a job he doesn't like at
four point thirty in the morning, then by god, I
can get up early for a job.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
I really like. There are a lot of variations on
this quote or this this maxim is truism, but the
life that you want is right there. You just have
to do the difficult things. You know, you need to
do to get it. That's it. Yeah, whatever that may be.
I mean overwhelmingly people know what they should be doing right,
work hard, be you know, focus, be honest with yourself,
(58:34):
be a team player, show up, show up on all
these different things. It's hard to do those things. Yeah,
you know, it's easier to not do those things. And
so any messaging that you get that encourages you to
do the hard things that you know you need to
do to get where you want to get is great.
I mean, I think this player, I'd never heard of
him before, which is not a surprise anybody. I don't
(58:55):
follow these things that close. Yeah, but I love what
he just said. So yeah, he's totally spot on either
that should be so encouraged like that. What his statement
should be something that young men across the country here
and there's a focus on and not you know the
system I'm not even talking about race issues here, but
you know the system is rigged against you, or you
(59:16):
know men are toxic or all these negative things that
you hear.
Speaker 2 (59:20):
I also think again, you're as a dad. Young men
can be an uncle, you can be a grandpa. Are
looking to you because they're trying to find a purpose
in life. And when you tell men your purpose in
life is not to be a dad, not to be
a father, not to provide for your family, you are
stripping away a huge amount of their purpose. And so
(59:41):
when you tell them that the things that make them
male historically and throughout centuries are toxic, you are basically
telling them we don't want you to be a part
of society. And I think there's a lot of men
and women out there that are becoming aware that we
have told young men that. I think they are overwhelmingly
rebelling against that idea. There's a big difference between men
(01:00:04):
and women are equal and girl power is a great
thing in the girl Boss era, you can lift up
women without tearing down men, and I think we've missed
on that to a large extent. Let's have some fun.
These are some funny talkbacks. By the way, Eric in
San Diego listening out there on Cogo? Is it co
(01:00:26):
Go or do I have to say Kogo? It should
be Cog in San Diego?
Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (01:00:31):
The Left would never allow Nus and a Scarborough to
run at the same time because it would create a
worldwide hairjail shortage, and the Antifa type that spikes their
hair would just go off the deep end, crazing a
dystopian universe that would look worse than Mad Max, and
then in causing World War three to happen. So they're
gonna have to find somebody who's the bald or has
(01:00:52):
a natural hairstyle.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It's very funny. Maybe they can get Jesse Kelly to
run He's bald ff dan and in Cleveland, Ohio on
w t AM what you got for us?
Speaker 12 (01:01:07):
Just want to chime in on this thing about the
black and Hispanic crime. I believe a lot of it
has to do with the families, no bothers at all
to tell them what's right and wrong. I really do
believe poverty has something to do with it. I grew
up poor as dirt. I ain't killed nobody yet, don't
plan I'm killing nobody.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, I mean it is a. It is a They
have to explain how it happens without allowing individual responsibility
to factor in. And so, what they have decided to
settle on is poverty and racism creates violent crime. But
as you pointed out, Buck, when you actually dive into
(01:01:49):
poverty and and and crime data in New York City,
what you will see is some of the poorest immigrant communities,
particularly Asian, have some of the lowest violent crime rates
in the city. Well, poverty creates crime, how do you
explain it? And if minorities are uniquely susceptible, well, why
(01:02:11):
does racism not seem to impact Asian people? And those
become very difficult conversations. What it ultimately comes back to
is individual responsibility, which to me is the foundation in
many ways of the Republican Party. Unfortunately, Democrat Party is
absolutely devoted to no accountability for anyone as long as
they vote Democrat. You're not accountable for ruining cities, You're
(01:02:34):
not accountable for wide open borders, you're not accountable for
go down the list, the destruction of the family, all
these things. There's no accountability. Just vote Democrat and it's
always somebody else's fault, whoever you are, whether you're the
purple haired antifemaniac or you know, you're a female minority
primary voter who shows up nothing in your life that
you don't like is your fault. If you're a Democrat,
(01:02:55):
at somebody else's fault. Vote Democrat, and I think again,
and this is why I'm so optimistic And I know
I tend to be optimistic in general, but I just
see so many young men starting to ask the question,
have I really been? Have I lied to?
Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
And I think COVID was a big part of it,
because if they shut down your school and you didn't
get to go to prom or finish your basketball season,
or you didn't get to play soccer or whatever sport
you love, didn't get to play football, and then you
find out that you were never in danger from COVID
and that what they told you about why you couldn't
be in school, Well, guess who got to be in school,
(01:03:32):
the rich kids at the private school. Guess who got
to go to restaurants. Gavin Newsom didn't miss many meals.
They got to hang out at the French laundry with
all his buddies, have their nice glasses of chardonnay. And
you start to think, wait a minute, maybe I need
to do my own research on what the facts are.
And I think more and more smart young men and
(01:03:53):
young women, but particularly young men, are rejecting a lot
of the lessons that they have been taught. Do something
smart for your family if you haven't already get how
about a will and a trust I have this, Buck
has this. I hope we have a lot of years
still to come. But if we don't, we've taken care
of our families, and the families know exactly what we
(01:04:15):
want to happen when we are no longer here. Maybe
you're like Buck and you just had your first baby.
Maybe you're like me and you got a couple, two,
three kids out there, Maybe your grandma or grandpa. Have
you gone through the process of letting your family know
what you want to happen after you are gone. Maybe
you're out there and you're saying, I am the peacemaker.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
I'm the reason why Aunt Gladys and Uncle Phil can
sit together at the same table for Thanksgiving, because otherwise
they're going to be at everybody's throat. They're gonna be
after each other.
Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Can you imagine what will happen when you rely on
those knuckleheads to try to figure out issues relating to
your legacy. Don't you want to take it out of
their hands and just be able to make the choices
that are right for you and your family to help
keep peace of mind in place when you're not there
to help make peace of mind happen.
Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
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