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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hang out with us as we are
rolling through the Friday edition of the program. Lots of
fun things coming your way. President Trumps scheduled to have
a media availability and an announcement in the Oval Office shortly.
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He has continued to discuss the rapid decline in DC's
crime rate, including in an unscheduled visit to a local
Trump para paraphernalia. I guess it would say Trump sort
of souvenir shop near the White House. He went over
in his Trump was right about everything hat and made
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an unscheduled visit a little bit earlier this morning. I
am told part of the announcement that Trump is going
to make today not super significant, but is related to
the World Cup, which the United States will be hosting
next year. And we will have Andrew Giuliani, son of
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Rudy Giuliani, on the program in the third hour to
discuss some of those details. All that coming your way
as we are talking to you. The state of Texas
is poised to remake the congressional map there the battle
with California now having a referendum to potentially remake their
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congressional map as well. This is a fight that might
make sense for Gavin Newsom because it puts him more
in the center of the national stage. But unfortunately for him,
all of the blue states by and large have already
redone their congressional districts to effectively box out many different
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parts of the overall landscape when it comes to red
state voters being respected even in locations that are you know,
like Illinois, where you have forty four percent of the
vote going for President Trump, and in Illinois, fourteen of
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the seventeen congressional seats are in Democrat hands. So ultimately,
I think this is going to work to Republican favor.
As I said before, a study in The New York
Times says that the congressional map is a little bit
slanted in favor of Democrats based on the results of
the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four elections. So
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we will discuss some of that as that decision is
coming down. John Bolton a raid this morning. We will
break that down here momentarily, and we've got some fun
language changes that the Democrat Party is discussing. We will
have some fun with that for words that they say
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that they no longer want to be included. But I
would say probably the biggest story as we start off
today is the fact that John Bolton's home was rated. Buck,
this is an intelligence related story, So I'm going to
tee it up for you as many different people are
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out there reacting to this. Bolton has been a prominent
Trump critic and and this raid seems designed to investigate
whether he has been a source for the leaking of
classified documents, both in Trump one point zero and maybe beyond.
Is that a fair assessment in your mind, Buck, of
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what exactly is going on here.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Obviously we need more details to really understand everything that's
that's going on with this, But I gotta tell you,
I mean there's a few things that jump out at
me right away. One is that there's a he wrote
a book, right and in this book he he says
he got it reviewed. And I mean, look, this is
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a former Trump guy too, so it's interesting because he
was a Trump national security advisor. It's not a Democrat
who had his house raid rated. So they've searched his
home and his office of John Bolton. Have you ever
done a hit with Bolton? Clay, I actually did. I
don't think so. I don't know him.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I've never met him. I don't think I have any
any interaction with him in any way.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, yeah, so I've I've met him a couple of times.
The investigation in Bolton, according to New York Times, here,
seeks to determine whether he illegally shared or possessed classified information. Uh,
and that's pretty much what we've got. There are a
few things that could be at issue here. One is
the book that he wrote, and the book he says
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was cleared. I've been told that there's something about a
verbal clearance that he received for it. Basically, there may
be some dispute over whether the book went through and
this I went through this process. For any of you
who are wondering why has my book taken so long?
It was many mon months of just pure bureaucratic delay.
(05:03):
But I knew Clay I had to get under and
this is under both a NDA and under National security
statute that I signed to go to the CIA twenty
years ago that if I'm writing anything that touches on
my CIA experience, classified information, etc. You have to submit
And I had to get this letter. It's almost like
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getting a clearance letter from a prosecutor, like you're good,
You're not under investigation anymore. I had to get a
clearance letter. Your book is fine. Without that letter, you
are liable for anything that is in that book that
the National Security Apparatus decides was classified. So the book
could be an issue. That's part one. I do remember
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thinking I have to go and check on this team.
But I remember he got a book out very fast
after he was done with his time in the Trump administration,
so fast that I recall think king maybe he had
some kind of a buddy on the inside who moved
it along for him. But maybe maybe he played a
little fast and loose. I don't know. The other possibility
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is that he had classified documents in his home. To me,
that would be so stupid, it's unthinkable except Biden, as
we all know from when he was vice president and
when he was a senator. But to be fair, Biden
did also have some dementia going on, so you know
there is we can't say he had dementia. And I
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think this.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Is important, by the way, after the Trump and Biden
classified document scandals, if by chance you worked in former
intelligence and you were like, uh, oh, I've still got
some of these. You probably burned them or shredded them
or got ready rid of them if you have a
remotely functional brain, right. I mean, the idea that you
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would continue to possess those is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's not hard to get rid of them. To keep
them would be That's what I mean. It would be
reckless beyond and look, General Petreus got hit on this one,
four star general and former CIA director. He got hit
for having classified outside of proper chance, So it does happen.
There was a CIA director a long time ago, even
though he's the director, not allowed to just kind of
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have the papers all over his office at home, So
that's possible. I would think bot In is too clever
for that, but maybe I'm giving him too much credit.
The other thing, which is probably the likeliest clay but
the hardest to prove, is was he feeding information classified
information to reporters to undermine Trump, who he had just
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been working for as National security advisor. I think that's
the likeliest, personally, just the likeliest scenario of what the
investigation is focused on. But look, man, you never want
those FBI guys and windbreakers come into your house and
I'm sure we'll get more on this one. And it's
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it's just own you. Cash Battel, the director of the FBI,
beat it out. No one's above the law. Trump's taking
that serious or his team is taking that seriously. Trump
said he has no knowledge of this. Yeah, I don't
believe that, But I would say President, I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Saying, yeah, yeah, I would say the same thing if
I were president of the United States, I'll be like, man,
you know they got independence. I don't know anything about it,
but that's exactly what I would say. I do think
we should play the flashback here. Here is John Bolton.
For anybody out there that is freaking out. Here is
John Bolton saying after Trump's home at Mar a Lago
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was rated, Hey, let's just wait and let the process
play itself out cut five.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And I don't think he cared about the classification system.
I don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information,
and he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was
often acquired, the so called sources and methods. So this
had been brief to him before I arrived, it was
repeated frequently. I think it simply had no impact on him.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
It's very hard to speculate on motive other than that
he liked cool things. He saw things that he so
he wanted to take them, and he was pretty much
able to take them, and not just on classified information matters,
on all kinds of things that crossed his desk. Some
days he liked to eat a lot of French fries.
Some days he took classified documents.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He wanted them.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Why did he want them because he could get them?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh, whoa, Maybe he wanted them because he could get them.
Let me also clarify what I said. I don't know
that Trump is getting updated on every raid like this.
I think Trump knows the process which led to these
raids are going to happen. I would say probably cash
Ptel doesn't walk in and say, hey, tomorrow morning early,
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we're going to be doing a raid. I'm not sure
Trump is getting the minute updates like that.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I don't think. I think on his former National security
advisor Clay, he probably is.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Now Maybe I think Clay I think killing him the
exact moment that they're going to happen, which allows Trump
to say I didn't know about it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think that Trump, uh, maybe it wasn't in the
decision making process to do the raid. I think that
ag Bondi and Cash Pattel probably were handling that. Look,
this is also we see this with the DOJ and
with special counsel stuff and all this. They work for
the president, but there's this belief that they kind of
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don't work for the president. But there's a Chinese wall,
so to speak, between them and the president. But no,
not really, you know. So it's a strange place for
things to be. I have to wonder if this is
actually going to I have to wonder, you know, what
the basis for this is, because to do this and
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to have it go nowhere here, by the way, here
is Trump. Let's hear Trump talking about this. Play cut one,
go for it.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
No, I don't know about it. I saw it on
television this morning. I'm not a fan of John Bull.
He's a real said of a low life. When I
hired him, he served a good for is because, as
you know, he was one of the people that forced
Bush to do the ridiculous bombings in the Middle East,
the boult he you know, he he wants to always
kill people and he's very bad at what he does.
(11:11):
But he worked out great for me, because every time
he doesn't talk, he's like a very quiet person, except
on television, who you could say something bad about trumpelways
do that, but but he really doesn't talk. He's quiet.
And I'd walk into a room with him with a
foreign country, and the foreign country would give me everything
because they said, I don't know, they're gonna get blown
up because John Bolton is in. He's a not a
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smart guy, but he could be a very unpatriotic. I mean,
we're gonna find out. I know nothing about it. I
just saw it this morning. They did a rid Do
you accept the dug review on this? Yeah, they'll be
they'll brief probably today sometime, and I don't want to.
I tell him, and I tell the group I don't
want to know about just you have to do what
you have to do. I don't want to know about it.
It's not necessary. I could know about it. I could
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be the one starting, and I'm actually the chief law
enforcement officer. But I feel that it's set better this way.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Let me say this too, Buck, I would say on
this front, I think Trump may not want to know
about some of this stuff because he doesn't want to
be blamed if it gets leaked. You ever been in
that scenario where you I hate sometimes knowing information that
I know is not public yet because I'm like, eight
people know this. If it gets leaked, somebody's going to
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be like, oh, he's the one who talked, right. And
So I think one thing Trump learned about during his
first term, in addition to knowing that people like John Bolton,
who frankly he just didn't have the knowledge to know
who to surround himself with as staff, I think also
he learned that a lot of these briefings are being
done so that they can leak that they briefed the president.
(12:48):
That makes use to brief the president. But I think
one of the things that Trump found so frustrating was
his intelligence agencies would brief him and then twenty minutes later,
it's a story in the New York Times and he's like, man,
they set me up on this. Remember our buddy Senator
Ron Johnson has talked about this. I don't think it's
gotten enough attention. But he got briefed so the FBI
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could say they briefed him on the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
If I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
They leaked that they had briefed him about the fact
that Russian disinformation might be going on, so they could
make it look like he was somehow a target or
involved in this. And so I think Trump may not
want those briefings because he just knows that the stories
come out and they're trying to paint him into a corner.
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
Let's go ahead and talk economy here for a minute,
because I know this impacts you guys a lot. Stock
market is setting another all time high today. That is,
if you have a four to oh one k, if
you have a retirement account. It wasn't very long ago
that there was a full fledged panic out there in
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the financial markets. In fact, it was in April, and
we said on this program, hey, keep your head down,
hold onto your stocks. If you did, you're in great place.
If you had money on the sideline, as we said,
it was a good time to buy. You now have
made since April. This is pretty extraordinary thirty percent return.
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That's about as much as you statistically would make in
a three or four year window. So if you bought
the dip, you are now up over thirty percent again,
if you had dry powder, if you had money sitting
on the sidelines, new record highs. Pretty much every stock
is surging right now and that's happening today because, and
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this is significant, Jerome Powell, who is I believe, out
in Jackson Hole, Wyoming for a yearly summer event there
he said basically, Yeah, we're going to have a rate
cut in September. That would mean your mortgages would be cheaper.
If you're thinking about buying a home, that would mean
your rates on credit card, your rates on cars, whatever
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you are borrowing, that would theoretically make a big difference
for you. Trump has been right about inflation not surging
and the fact that it's time for rate cuts. And
here is Jerome Powell basically acknowledging that this morning in Wyoming,
cut tin.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Our policy rate is now one hundred basis points closer
to neutral than it was a year ago, and the
stability of the unemployment rate and other labor market measures
allows us to proceed carefully as we consider changes to
our policy stance. Nonetheless, with policy and restrictive territory, the
baseline outlook and the shifting balance of risks may warrant
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adjusting our policy stance.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
That is a lot of gobbly good for many of
you out there, but it is basically acknowledging that hey
there's going to be a rate cut, and let me
pull up the actual the actual projections out there on
the gambling markets. They do a really good job generally
(17:12):
speaking of forecasting this, and there now is a basically
ninety percent chance that you're going to see a rate
cut on September seventeenth. So that would then mean again
lower borrowing costs for many of us out there who
own homes, thinking about buying homes, if you're taking out
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an interest rate on buying a car, or your credit
card rates whatever they are, looks like a quarter point decrease,
although there's a possibility of a fifty basis point decrease.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So that is the expectation.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Also an expectation that there may be rate cuts in
October as well.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So that is.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
An economic outlook for you, you, and that is what is
propelling stocks to record highs across the board. Here yet
another thing buck the experts, experts in quotation marks. I
feel like I need to say that got wrong because
they had a lot of people panicking in April, and
(18:19):
I bet sadly, you know you know out there are panicked.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, he didn't panic, and his suspenders and his
French cuff with his monogram. Uh are, I'm trying to
remember your actual name. Richard Clay traw R. Richard Travis,
Richard Clay Travis. Clay Travis didn't panic. I didn't pan either,
but Clay didn't panic. He was like, stay with it,
stay with it, and it was good advice. Trump said,
(18:44):
I mean, I'd never heard this. You were the president's
Was it was it Trump? Or who wasn't? No, might
have been one of his I think it might have
been the president one of his top advisors basically said,
Tesla's on sale. Buy it. You never hear somebody that's
in your government. By the way, Tesla was on sale.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
He also said, don't be a pain anakin, meaning again,
I know, because there's so much noise every day, it's
easy to get fired up. This is my public address
announcement for the day. You're gonna make about nine percent
a year if you buy index funds and you hold
on to them. Now, that doesn't mean you're gonna make
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nine percent every year. You need to have a horizon five, ten, fifteen,
twenty years. Overwhelmingly, this is the truth. When you try
and time the market, you tend to sell LOOE and
buy high. That's an average person out there. And so
(19:40):
when you get like that frenzy, that drum beat. What
is the great line I'm going to paraphrase it for
Warren Buffett be be Oh, I'm not even gonna say it. Well,
I'm going to look up the quote because I want
to make sure be greedy when others are, when others
are scared, and scared when other are greedy. Basically is
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his investing maxim and guys the greatest investor in the
history of the United States. So when everybody else is
screaming buy, be nervous, when everybody else is screaming sell,
it's the best possible time to go by. That's a
general contrarian index, but it tends to be true. And
(20:22):
I think in general what this means is the housing market.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hopefully, my biggest hope.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Is that by next year we have unfrozen that housing
market and those of you out there that got seven
percent mortgages are able to refi back into the five
percent range, and some of you out there with two
and three percent mortgages, with mortgages back around five you're
willing to make that shift. Maybe you put your house
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on the market, Maybe a move to a new neighborhood
because you've got kids that are school age, or your
kids have left for college and you're moving back to
a smaller home. We just need to unfreeze the tire pipes,
for lack of a better way, of the housing market,
because I think that will unlock a lot of growth
in our national economy.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You know, we had that conversation older this week about
how so much of what you want in life is
entirely attainable if you just do the things you know
you should do that are not easy to do, but
you know you should do them. It applies to certainly
you know your health and fitness. Like last night, I
discovered that the Jenny's gooey buttercake ice cream in the
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freezer was in fact gluten free. This was not good
knowledge for me to have, Clay.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I was not. It's funny you mentioned this because I
had my sons at the Atlanta Braves, you know, to
go watch games a few weeks ago, right before school started.
I had this exact flavor of Jenny's ice cream. They
have a Jenny's ice cream right by the Atlanta Braves stadium,
and I gotta.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Tell you it is unbelievable. He it's shockingly good. It's like,
what do they in this? I can't stop eating it
and I don't even want to look at it afters Look,
you know, last night I went off plan, as I said,
It's what I tell my wife. I tell Carrius at
a honey, I went off plan.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Is ice cream your thing you eat and you just
can't say no to it because it's not necessarily mine? Like,
what is your guilty sin when it comes to food
where you're just like I just couldn't stop eating it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Chocolate, cheese, and ice cream, which is a deadly triad.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Let me tell us a tough trio. Yeah, yeah, I'll
tell you why I can't. Like I went last night
my son played his first football game of the season
and they played ninth grade football. So we kicked off
here in Tennessee for his school, and then we went
to dinner after the game. We went to go get
Mexican food. I don't think I can stop eating chips
and salsa. I don't know how much chips in Salta
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I would have to eat for me to be like
you know what I've I can't take another chip, don't
I don't think it's possible to fill up on chips
and salsa.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Like I love Mexican food. I'm not a controversial take
a lot of us do. Guacamole's a meal, everybody. This
is the problem with it. It's delicious, it's amazing, but this
thing of like, oh, I'm just gonna have like a
big bowl of guacamole before my meal. Unfortunately, guacamole is
like green ice cream. It is really calorie dense.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I just sat there and look, I can't say no.
I mean, that is my flaw. I also like, I
don't even know if this is a combo that a
lot of other people are into, but I can avoid it.
More So, peanut butter and crackers is one of the
greatest combos in the history of mankind. Peanut butters and
Graham crackers. If you like the gram, I'd probably just
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made everybody fat. Now that's a combo. That's one of
the greatest combos to ever exist. But I feel like
I can eat those all day too. But the chips
and salta combo. I bet I ate ten pounds of
chips and salcea last night. I never don't have to
get multiple refills on the chips bowl, and usually it's
not my wife and my kids that are pounding it
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fat dad here.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So so what I was saying, though, is that, yes, okay,
that's funny that you had that flavor of Jenny's ice cream.
I was so good. I don't know, it was like
it was one of the Honestly, I would throw pistachio
under the bus for that Jenny's ice cream. I would
push pistachio ice cream under the waves and pull that
Jenny's ice cream up into the rowboat with me if
I had to.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You are getting called out by producer Greg because this
stuff is evidently very expensive, the Jenny's ice cream, But
it is so good.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It is so I look, producer Greg, you know what
I can. If I have to eat my Jenny's ice
cream with a top hat and a monocle on, I'll
do it. I don't know what to tell you. If
the butlers say it Nancy Pelosi taste when it comes
to ice cream here, I didn't know it was this expensive,
twelve dollars twelve dollars a pint. So the Pelosi reference
I remember this well was when Pelosi was doing her
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like it's okay that everyone's locked at home, you can't
go out during COVID, but you have all she opened
I think it was like a fifteen thousand dollars Viking
freezer unit. Okay, the one of the most expensive freezer
even knows you could possibly have, like more than a
lot of people's cars, and then opened a giant freezer
drawer with like ten pints of twelve or fifteen dollars
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Jenny's ice cream in it, and she was like, it's
not that bad during COVID, and everyone's like, you know,
everyone's completely freaking out. So that's why it's the Pelosi.
It's the Pelosi ice cream. It is on this one.
You're right, it's so good. Yeah. So what I was
saying though about on the financial side of it is
it think of it a little bit like ice cream
or a little bit like you know, eating healthy food.
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You know what works. The Clays speaks to you on
this all the time, and you know what the if
you look at the vast majority of people, over ninety
percent of people just being disciplined and putting money in
the market and not touching it until you really need it,
and hopefully you don't need it for ten fifteen twenty years.
(25:55):
That is the pathway to success. It's like eating a
you know, a mixed and very diet of whole foods
of something that either comes from the earth or had
a mom and dad. So that's kind of a weird
way to put it, but it's true. You know, you
either want to eat an animal or something that grows,
and that's, for the most part, the way to do it.
(26:15):
And if you do it, good things happen. Right. So
it's like that with finance, because you try to pick
stocks and you think you're going to be Gordon the
second coming of Gordon Gecko. You got to remember Gordon
Gecko was cheating and went to prison in the movie,
So you don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Most people who beat the market are cheating because it's
really really hard to beat the market. And usually in
order to beat the market, you have to have information
that the rest of the market does not have, which
allows you to value the market prices better than other
people would, at least historically over time, it's hard to do.
Some people like Warren Buffett brilliant able to do it.
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Speaker 2 (28:44):
All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
We just had the President Trump presser from the Oval Office,
and we had some very interesting takeaways from that. First off,
for those of you who are soccer fans, if you're
in Europe football, it's gonna be huge for the US.
Put us out by the ALEC soccer or not. And
Clay honed in on this one a few moments ago.
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It's such a big draw for businesses, for money for visitors,
for tourism, for all of that. And it's a good
look for America. You know, I'll tell you this. I'm
sure a lot of you have the same thing I get.
And I think this is a good thing, and I
think everybody should feel this way. What if I read
that something bad happens to a tourist in my hometown.
(29:31):
It ticks me off, you know, it really does, because
I want and now that was true when I lived
in New York. It's true when I live in Miami now.
So we want to be able to showcase the greatness
of American and America cities to the rest of the world.
It's a pride thing, and I think that's a good
thing for us to have, right I mean, Clay, someone
goes to Nashville, they're visiting from Japan or Germany or
(29:53):
Brazil or wherever. You know. You just I think as
a resident, you always want visitors to have a good
You want tourists putting dollars into that economy and supporting hotels,
and you know, you just want them to have a
good experience. And that brings me to Trump and how
this is all time together. You'll notice something he taught
was talking about FIFA, and I know a lot of
(30:14):
you are like ass soccer or whatever. Just stay with
me on this. Okay, he's talking about the soccer stuff,
but he's also talking about d C. Well, it turns
out there's some method to the madness, if you will.
On this one. Trump isn't just gonna do this in
d C. We got next year the World Cup. They're
gonna be playing in a lot of these cities. He
(30:34):
mentioned that, you know, this is DC. Restaurants have closed
and I have a friend who owned restaurants in DC.
He had to close them because the neighborhood was too
dangerous and people weren't moving in the levels that they
had thought, and it was just too difficult, you know,
they had to deal with too much. So this is
that's real, I know from someone firsthand, because he went
into a transitioning area, you know, tried to do that
(30:55):
urban pioneer thing where you going to an area where
I think it's gonna be better. Didn't work. Trump is
cleaning these places up. He's starting with DC and Clay
here he is cut thirty. He says Chicago is next
on the list. Play it.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
After we do.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
This, we'll go to another location and we'll make it safe.
All so, we're going to make our country very safe.
We're going to make our cities very very safe.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Chicago's a mess.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
You have an incompetent mayor grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten
that one out probably next. That'll be our next one
after this, and it won't even be tough. And the
people in Chicago vis Vice President are screaming for us
to come there.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
They're wearing red hats just.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Like this one, but they're wearing red hats. African American ladies,
beautiful ladies, are saying, please, President Trump, come to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Please.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I did great with the black vote, as you know,
and they want something to happen. So I think Chicago
will be our next, and then we'll help.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
With New York and we're going to help with us.
And I think, really, I think a.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Lot of and a lot of these people that you
see on television, they are including the people in this audience.
They'll say band things about me and then.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
They'll say true, Clay and I love this move, especially
if the DC numbers continue to trend in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think it's transformative. And I said this, and this
is what I got ripped for. I said, if it
works in DC, we should see this expand to other
cities around the country. And look, if I were governor
right now of Tennessee, don't have to worry about that Tennesseeans.
But if I were, and I like Bill Lee a lot,
(32:29):
and I know we've got a governor's race coming up,
I would be looking at what's happening in DC and
thinking to myself, what if I deployed the Tennessee National
Guard in Memphis? What if I gave the Memphis Police
additional boots on the ground support to the city that
(32:49):
has the highest murder rate by far in all of
Tennessee and one of the highest murder rates in the world,
certainly one of the highest murder rates in right now
in the country. And Trump mentioned New York, if we
could have the same wr Listeners, I'm not saying things
(33:11):
in New York are perfect, but if we could have
the same murder rate around the world as exists right
now in New York City, in most of our big
cities that have way higher rates, I need to pull
up the rates. We'd probably eliminate fifty percent of the
murders in this country. I mean, I mean, seriously, if
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you look at the numbers, remember when you were stunned
by this, Memphis had more murders than New York City
in the last astonished years.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Astonishing, Look New York. For all that, people liked you
with that. I still think New York is the greatest,
is the greatest city all in in America. You can
get mad at me for that, but I still believe it.
I love New York. I always will. It's run by
some idiots. Recently, it's gone on a little bit of
a downturn, but it's not even in the top I
don't think Clay is in the top thirty most dangerous
(34:03):
cities per capita in this country when you're when you're
looking at all US cities, maybe it's in the top
twenty five or third. I don't think so. I mean,
so it's all about what's relative to New York, a
relative success or a failure compared to it being one
of the largest, one of the most safe large cities
(34:23):
in not just America, but honestly in the world. I mean,
there was a period of time where New York was
getting into conversation with some of the large European capitals,
and and so that's that's I think worth noting. You're
talking about dangerous, but we all know what it is,
and it's so sad. The dangerous cities perennially. You know,
year in year out, it's d C, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Memphis, Birmingham. Unfortunately,
(34:49):
what am I leaving one of my Chicago According to
this the top five per capita, and again per capita,
there's potentially some issues. This was twenty twenty three, so
I don't have the updated twenty twenty four. Memphis was
number one in the entire country per capita of most murders.
Saint Louis was number two, Baltimore number three, Washington, DC
(35:12):
number four, and Birmingham, Alabama, number five. I just did that.
I basically get it from memory because that's there. They're
always clay on that list. Chicago has a very high
overall number because it's a large city, but that violence
is mostly concentrated in certain areas of the city. But yeah,
this is this is something that needs to be addressed
(35:34):
and think about this. Now, let's set up the Chicago conversation.
Let's assume for a second that what Trump is doing
in DC and he continues to do even if thirty
days of data supports what Trump has been up to.
Even if it's thirty days, why wouldn't Chicago want to
see if they can go I mean, what happens if
(35:56):
he goes thirty days without a murder in DC? You're
gonna tell me don't want that in Chicago? Incredible, Yes,
you know you're gonna tell me. I understand, we're not
there yet, and we have to see where the data goes.
But they're they're arresting violent felons and serious criminals. They're
putting more people on the streets to prevent crime from happening.
(36:16):
I I can't see this as anything but upside for
the city of Chicago, except it makes Democrats look like
cowards who just lack the political will to protect their
own people. And that's a really tough thing for them.
You know, you're you're really going right into the heart
of Democrat power here with Hey, not only do you
(36:38):
guys democrats have bad ideas, you have been allowing your
own people to be killed, raved robbed. You know, all
these things in numbers far what was uh you know
what what should have been expected. Right, It's never gonna
be perfect, but far beyond because you don't want to
admit that Republicans had a better option.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Really, I think that's well said. I would also just
synthesize it this way. In DC, it was one of
the epicenters of the Black Lives Matter movement. They demonize police,
they put on the concrete there, they had a Black
Lives Matter Memorial Park, and the rate of black murder
(37:20):
skyrocketed in Washington, d C as BLM was at its
most active. Now Trump is actually showing what Black Lives
Matter truly means instead of just having rhetoric. He's going
out and arresting violent criminals. And as a result, black people,
(37:42):
who represent ninety four percent of all shooting victims in Washington, DC,
are overwhelmingly going to benefit the most from a decline
in violent crime. And this is true in most big
cities in America where black and brown people are overwhelmingly
victims of violent crime. And so if violent crime declines,
(38:04):
it typically doesn't decline as much in the rich parts
of town because the rich parts of town already by
and large have a much lower rate of violent crime.
So the most of the benefit of crime crackdowns in
you're to places that actually have the highest crime rates.
And so Trump is acting to protect black life in
(38:28):
terms of reality, more so than anyone who was super
outspoken from BLM. And he's doing it by letting cops
do their job, which overwhelmingly protects black life as opposed
to taking it, which was the story of BLM. Think
about the way he's setting this up, Clay. If you
have major crime drops in these cities and then there's
(38:50):
a or where they're doing this for the World Cup,
it all comes together in a way that looks like
a stroke of genius from Trump on all fronts. Yeah,
and closing up that circle on the World Cup. And
again we'll talk with Andrew Giuliani at two thirty. You
(39:11):
hit it, but I think it's worth hammering home. Even
if you hate soccer, even if you're like soccer is
a game for wossa's and socialists and communists and all
this stuff, whatever you think. The biggest richest sports fans
in the world are going to travel to the United
States for the World Cup, which is going to mean
the cities that host these events are going to bring
(39:33):
in tens of billions. I think billions of additional dollars
in revenue for restaurants, hotels, bars, so many people, uber drivers,
so many people out there, taxi drivers across the entire
spectrum of the economic landscape are going to benefit immensely
from having big events like the World Cup taking place
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a bunch of different news stories. Let me hit several
of them off the top.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Here.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
We have discussed in great detail the Bolton raid, the
raid on Trump's former security advisor, which took place this morning.
We don't know a lot of the details associated with it,
but it is underway. Trump is he still talking. Guys
talked for over an hour basically in the Oval Office
(42:47):
surrounding an announcement which we are getting lit up for.
It is very funny sometimes what the audience gets fired
up about. Because it is a World Cup related event,
and both Buck and I are proponents of soccer being
a sport that is worthy of watching. Many of you disagree.
The Kennedy Center is going to host the group stage
(43:09):
announcements on December the fifth, and I do think if
you are of the opinion that America's stature on the
global stage matters quite a lot. Trump is focused on
trying to make next year's World Cup one of the
greatest events the United States has ever hosted, and also
on making the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics a big
(43:32):
deal as well, in mirrors in some ways the World Cup,
which we hosted in nineteen ninety four and the Atlanta
Olympics which we hosted in nineteen ninety six. Some of
you are letting me know that we have hosted the
Winter Olympics, and I certainly don't want to shade that,
but the Summer Olympics is a much bigger deal than
the Winter Olympics. Way more countries participate, way more viewers
(43:56):
watch and are involved in that. To integrate the Winner Olympics,
I hope to get to go what they're having them
out in Park City right in the twenty thirties, if
I'm not mistaken, And I would love to be able
to go out and watch some of those events in
Park City outside of Salt Lake City, which is a
fabulous there you go place to visit if you have
(44:17):
never been, and I hope to be able to go
to that. But twenty twenty six World Cup next year,
I bet Buck and I will go to some of
those games. Twenty twenty eight LA Olympics. Texas redistricting is
currently underway. The votes the Democrats have shown back up
after saying, oh, we're not going to be there. We've
got I want to play this cut. We need to
get her on the show. Virginia governor wins some seers
(44:40):
in what is turning into a heck of a Donnie
Brook in Virginia. Virginia has unique gubernatorial processes in place.
First of all, they have the election the year after
every presidential election, off year election, so twenty twenty one,
twenty twenty five, right now now, and you can only
(45:01):
serve one term. So Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, who has
done a fabulous job by all intents and purposes and
would probably be a very big favorite to be re elected,
is not able to run for a second term. He
could run in four more years, but you can't serve
back to back. And so when some Seers is running
against Abigail Spanberger and uh, that is currently underway also,
(45:28):
and she's got a great ad. Maybe we'll play it
for you before this show is out, but we need
to get her on the program. Okay, Trump being Trump,
there are still a bunch of funny clips that are
coming out from that event. Here is a reporter asking
Trump if he's going to take part in the World
Cup events, and Trump says, heck, do you see what
(45:50):
soccer players make? I may decide to start playing soccer
cut thirty four.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It's well, you have a part to play in on
this it I may play.
Speaker 7 (46:03):
I mean, I see the money that the soccer has
appeared on the We call it soccer, but I see
the money that these soccer players that make it. I
may try and play a very good athlete.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
My son.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
My son is a very good athlete, and he's a
good soccer players on the tall side for soccer six nine.
It's pretty tall, but that's pretty it's on.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
The tall side.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
But he's good.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But no, I may, I may put.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
On shorts on extremely good in shorts. I can enjoy
the play.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
No, it's gonna be a lot of fun. The Trump.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
I do think you and I have hit on this
a lot. Trump is way funnier than he gets credit for.
I mean, just way way funnier. He doesn't laugh laugh
like Kamala Harris has that really uncomfortable cackle whenever she
tries to make a joke. Trump does dead pans a
lot of his humor. And I think people are just
not I mean, I understand. Our audience gets Trump's sense
(46:57):
of humor, but I think a lot of his critics
don't understand and when he's actually joking and poking fun
at them, because they've kind of got the idea that
he's hitler, and so the idea that he would tell
a joke they don't get. And he's not a haha,
I'm gonna laugh at my own jokes guy. But he's
very good at deadpan, and so this is very very
(47:17):
very very funny from the White House a little bit earlier.
Let me hit you at this buck. You're a New
York City guy. Cracker Barrel is being universally savaged over
their decision to do away with the They need Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
I'm seeing the memes. Cracker Barrel needs Sidney Sweety to
save the brand.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So I have two questions for you to have some
fun to start off the day. Here the third hour Here,
after fourteen hours on the air so far this week,
let me ask you this. We have seen the old
white guy, Cracker barrel guy, both the Cracker and the
Barrel canceled. We have seen the Native American, the Indian
good looking land of Lake's Lady, remember her used to
(47:58):
be on the Land of Lakes, butter Aunt, poor Aunt
Jemima has given up, the Ghost on the Syrup and
Uncle Ben do you remember Uncle Ben from Uncle Ben's
Rice back in the day. All of them have been
canceled for being considered to be problematic. If you could
bring back one, who do you bring back? Cracker Barrel Guy,
(48:19):
Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben or the Indian Landa Lakes Girl.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
I'm probably Indian Landa Lakes Girl. I don't know. I'm
just thrown it out there.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
I don't really have a strong preference that anything that's
a strong I've got a power ranking here. I know exactly.
I think it's Aunt Jemima. I think an Jemima really
got treated unfairly and she was great on the Pancake Syrup.
Now I want the Cracker Barrel Guy to come back,
but I would like to see all four return. But
I think an Jemima would be my number one draft
pick here and second part of this in your home
(48:52):
city of New York. Cracker Barrel decided to reach out
with all of this going on, and they had a
public line dancing event in New York City as part
of their rebranding of correct.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Sorry I'm laughing because I just can't believe.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
That this is real. These marketing people are such morons.
They did a line dancing event in New York City
after canceling the logo, after arguing basically that the brand
was outdated, and now they're going to do line dancing
in New York City.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I'm gonna tell you it's crazy. AI people talk about
what jobs are going to be under pressure from AI.
I think marketing is going to be a career of
the past in a lot of ways because the tools
of marketing, making things, pulling together research, you know, making logos, brands,
that's going to get a lot easier for everybody. And
(49:50):
so I believe that you're going to see that also advertising,
the advertising industry more and more that's going to be
brought in house. And with AI you can create logo
and decals and videos and all kinds of things on
your own. So now, I'm sure there are some very
nice conservative marketing people out there, but generally those are
industries that are absolutely dominated by communists and have been
(50:13):
a huge problem for those of us who work in
conservative media for as long as I've been doing this,
because they block us all the time. They don't want
to work with conservative brands. These Madison Avenue advertising executives
and the rest of it. These marketing executives, they don't
want to work with conservative brands. They bring extremely left
wing politics to things. And so the wreckage that I
(50:35):
think is going to run rough shot through those industries
because of AI is well in a lot of cases.
It will be a come up in sud is well deserved.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Have you seen this video yet of the line dancing
going on in New York City's meatpacking district?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Can I just tell everybody meat meat packing is one
of the trendiest neighborhoods in New York. I think you
would have one of the lowest level of Republican registration
in meat packing probably in all the five boroughs. I mean,
it's up there with Brooklyn, the really blue parts of Brooklyn,
which are ninety plus ninety five percent plus Democrat. So
(51:11):
to roll out the line dancing in meat packing is
quite a thing to do.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I just you know, really what this gets down to,
And I know it's a silly, ridiculous story, but I
do think it's reflective. They hire these executives who have
contempt for the customer. That's really what this is about.
When you decide you're going to rebrand, oftentimes what you're
saying is the people who like us, we don't like them.
(51:43):
And this was bud Light. Hey, bud Light's to Freddy.
They have an immature sense of humor. Yeah, most guys do.
Most normal guys have a little bit of an inappropriate
and immature sense of humor. Every single person married to
a man and knows this. Every single person raising a
(52:04):
son or a grandson knows this. We all men are
a little bit immature and oftentimes a little bit inappropriate.
That doesn't make us bad people. In fact, it actually
makes us somewhat more likable and endearing, because if you
have a sense of humor, as we've just talked about
(52:24):
with Trump, sometimes you can have a more effective communication
strategy with humor than you can with straight aggressive analysis
of argument. The other thing here, though, Cracker Barrel I
thought Byron Donald's did a really good job calling in
and talking about this because he had worked there when
he was very good. He's always he's always a fun guest.
(52:47):
But good idea from Buck. Because he was tweeting about it,
he was like, you know, shut him a taxi. We'll
call in and talk about it. But I do think
I feel this and I see it because you know,
college foot sometimes get raked over the coals because we're
seen as rubes, because we're seen as not sophisticated football
(53:08):
or you know, you're you're not the right kind of
person to appear oftentimes in television, advertisement or whatever else.
That's the people who eat at Cracker Barrel, and so
they have contempt for their audience. And that's why you
do a pop up event in the meatpacking district of
New York City because that CEO, that's who she wants
(53:31):
coming to Cracker Barrel. She wants the trendy person from
New York City who they're never gonna eat at Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
That's not your base.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
It's old Southerners like me, people who want nostalgia from
old Southern meals that they might have had in the
past or that they might remember.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
And I just it really it really gets me.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Angry because you're destroying something that someone built that is
actually great, and you have contempt for the people that
have allowed that business to exist. You're turning your back
on them, and it really fires me up. Honestly, Well,
this is this is progressives all throughout the culture. Their locusts.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
They show up and they just destroy, They take over
and destroy things left and right. California for example, Now,
no it's not destroyed. California still got a lot of
beautiful stuff and you know, great places to live. But
in terms of governance, the taxes and all the way
that it's handled, California became became great when it was
(54:31):
a red state. That's when California reached what you know,
it became what it was when it was a reliably
republican state actually, and then Democrats took over, and they
do this in a lot of places. They take over
something that is you know, remarkable, and they make it.
I mean, look at what they did with Twitter. Before
Elon bought it, Twitter was this cool social media site
(54:53):
and then it just became infiltrated with these progressive, lunatic
left wingers and then they turned into a big social
justice you know, like a nonprofit basically, and we're using
it to discriminate against their political enemies, and they completely
overran that place. I mean, this is why what Elon
boughtered it was so fascinating. You saw this is like
(55:15):
they burrowed in. As I always say, they're an invasive species.
They don't seek to be in harmony with the right,
with conservatives in these places live in that live neutral space.
That's all nonsense. They want to completely create a political monoculture,
and unfortunately Clay marketing and advertising, it's kind of like Broadway,
total political monocultures. There's nothing else allowed except left wing stuff,
(55:40):
and you know that's that needs to change. I hope
it will change. But on the cracker barrel issue too,
people were saying, well, who cares or why? No, it's
not just that the woman who was in charge of
this of this crappy rebrand effort clearly is like at
MSNBC watching liberal. That's that's one part of it. Why
did they want to change it? What was the indicator
(56:02):
that it was in need of change. It was old,
it was white, it was southern, that was and those
things are viewed by the people put in charge of
the rebrand as inherently negative. That's the point. That's why
it offends people that they messed with this thing.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
And again we're gonna go to break. But I do
think that is the only reason the business exists If
you take away the Southern charm of Cracker Barrel, there
is nothing left that is the foundation of the brand.
You're never gonna get trans influencers from Brooklyn to show
up at Cracker Barrel to go eat. They don't like
(56:46):
the people who consume their product, and honestly, it is
malpractice to have people running the company that don't respect
the people that consume the product. I mean that's the truth.
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