Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 8 2025

ENOUGH!

A breakdown of one of the most disturbing crime stories in recent memory: the brutal murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska on a Charlotte light rail train. Buck Sexton, hosting solo while Clay Travis is off for the day, leads with this tragic incident, emphasizing its significance as a national story that mainstream media outlets have largely ignored.

The segment opens with commentary on President Donald Trump's remarks at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., where he addressed the Charlotte stabbing and broader issues of violent crime in Democrat-run cities. Buck highlights the systemic failures that allowed the alleged killer, Decarlos Brown Jr. —a career criminal with 13 prior arrests—to remain free despite repeated offenses, including assaults on women. The show critiques progressive criminal justice policies, particularly no-cash bail and leniency toward repeat offenders, arguing that these policies directly contribute to rising urban crime rates.

Manufacturing Delusion

Buck previews his upcoming book, Manufacturing Delusion: How the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination, and Propaganda Against You, which explores how totalitarian regimes and modern leftist movements alike manipulate legal systems and public perception to consolidate power. This sets the stage for a detailed critique of the recent appeals court decision upholding the $83 million defamation judgment against President Donald Trump in the E. Jean Carroll case. Buck argues that the ruling is not only excessive but emblematic of a broader effort to weaponize the legal system against political opponents. He underscores how New York’s temporary extension of the statute of limitations enabled the lawsuit, calling it a targeted and unethical maneuver designed to punish Trump retroactively.

The hour also highlights a significant legal victory for the Trump administration, as the Supreme Court lifts a lower court’s restraining order that had blocked federal immigration enforcement operations in Los Angeles. Buck credits Trump’s judicial appointments for preserving constitutional sanity and preventing the judiciary from becoming a tool of the anti-Trump resistance. This decision, he argues, reinforces the importance of conservative control over the courts, especially in the face of ongoing efforts to undermine immigration enforcement and national sovereignty.

We've Noticed

 the failure of progressive criminal justice policies and the media’s selective outrage. Buck Sexton opens the hour by revisiting the brutal murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, emphasizing the media blackout surrounding the case despite its viral spread on social media. He argues that the mainstream media, including outlets like The New York Times and The Washington Post, deliberately ignore stories that don’t align with their ideological narrative—particularly when the racial dynamics of a crime don’t fit the preferred script. Sexton contrasts this with the wall-to-wall coverage of cases like George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, and Jussie Smollett, asserting that the media only amplifies stories that can be framed as examples of systemic racism or white-on-black violence.

The hour expands to include another tragic case: the stabbing death of Dr. Julie Gard Schnuelle, a former Auburn University veterinary professor, who was murdered while walking her dog in Alabama. Sexton draws a direct line between these two cases—both involving white female victims and black male suspects with extensive criminal histories—and the broader failures of the justice system. He argues that these are not isolated incidents but symptoms of a systemic refusal to incarcerate dangerous repeat offenders due to ideological commitments to social justice, racial equity, and decarceration. Sexton calls for a national reckoning on crime, demanding that public safety take precedence over political correctness.

President Trump’s recent remarks are also featured prominently in this hour. Trump condemns cashless bail policies and vows to take federal action to restore law and order in cities like Chicago. Sexton praises Trump’s tough-on-crime stance and frames it as a necessary corrective to the chaos unleashed by progressive prosecutors and Democrat-run cities. 

Heather Mac Donald 

Heather Mac Donald, author of The War on Cops and When Race Trumps Merit, reinforces Sexton’s arguments with data and analysis. Mac Donald cites a 2023 study from the National Academy of Sciences showing that black-on-white violence is far more common than the reverse, yet receives far less media attention. She criticizes the criminal justice system for prioritizing the rights of offenders over the safety of law-abiding citizens and calls for the construction of more j

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Monday edition of the Clay Travis end Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. Clay off today, He'll
be back tomorrow, but he sends you all, of course,
to his regards, and we have a lot to dive
into today, my friends. We have some big stories coming
in from over the weekend. We have Trump speaking this

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morning at the Museum of the Bible in d C.
Coole Museum. I was there actually many years ago. Interesting place.
We have that to discuss. We've got some stuff from
the legal front here, Trump's appeal for the EG and
Carol lawsuit. I'll tell you about that. Some fascinating data
out of the NBC News World about gen Z that

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you are going to want to hear because you know
that is the future in a sense. Those are people
eighteen to twenty nine years old. And also I'll give
you some thoughts on the US Open from over the weekend.
But let's just dive right into it. By far, the
biggest story in America right now for at least half
the country is because the other half is trying to

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ignore it desperately. Desperately. Is this absolutely horrific video that
has been released of a refugee from Ukraine, Irena Zarutska.
She was on August twenty second on the Charlotte light
rail line. She's twenty three years old. She's a lovely

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young woman. There's a video of her. She was showing
up as a refugee working, I believe, at a subway,
trying to just support herself, trying to do things the
right way. Fled a war and was viciously brutally stabbed
to death for absolutely no reason other than the evil
and maliciousness malevolence of an individual. Carlos browns now in custody,

(02:02):
and we need to talk about this. First of all,
there's many layers to get into here. I just want
to say people are waking up and the countries had enough.
The countries had enough of We're going to refuse to
prosecute in a serious way. We're going to refuse to
clean up the streets. We're going to allow people to

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be murdered, raped, robbed because we lack the political will
to do something about it. We all know what must
be done. It could not be more clear, and I'll
walk you through in this case, it could not have
been more clear. But there are social justice angles. There
are racial angles. There are components here that push the

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Democrat Party, push the left to make us all suffer
in our cities and just in general, from crime that
is preventable and that should have been in this case, prevented.
The authorities failed this young woman, and the video that
has been released of this attack from a few weeks
ago is haunting. I've had people texting me from over

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the weekend. They're all just saying, have you seen this?
I'm sick to my stomach. Have you seen what happened
to this beautiful young woman? Because this vile psycho murdered her,
and he was a career criminal. It was known that
he was a risk to the public. It was known
that this guy was going to continue to offend. But

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a judge saw him recently and decided, let's just give
him a fifteenth chance. No more fifteenth chances. Maybe we
could start with that, no matter what the race, no
matter what the gender, no matter what the creed of
the individual may be, no more fifteenth chances. Can we
all agree with that? I know you can, But a

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lot of Democrats, a lot of Democrats seem to think
that social justice, racial justice means no accountability for criminals
who are repeat offenders over and over and over again,
and people have had enough. In fact, President Trump this
morning spoke about this at the Museum of the Bible.

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Listen to what our president had to say. Play one.
I just give my love and hope to the family
of the young woman who was stabbed this morning or
last night in Charlotte by a madman. A lunatic just
got up and started. It's right on the cape, not
really watchable because it's so horrible, but just viciously stabs
she's just sitting there. So they are evil people.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
We have to be able to handle that.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
If we don't handle that, we don't have a country.
Among the most heinous and terrifying footages of a murder
committed I've ever seen, and this is in the era
where we have more video, more bodycam, more footage of
who's doing this stuff than we ever have before. So
we can all see and thanks to X and yes,

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thank you Elon Musk, this circulates freely. Why is that
so important in this case? Do you want to guess
how many stories this is the number one story on
Fox News. This is the number one story that I
am leading with today on this program. On five hundred
and sixty radio stations across the country. Do you want
to guess how many stories there are in the New

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York Times about this, about this footage that has gone
absolutely viral. Again, horrifying footage, but people should see it
by the way they cut out the actual vibe, they
stop right as the knife is about to plunge into
or not they have that footage too, they didn't release that.
We all know how grotesque this situation is. We all

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know how horrific it was. This young woman sitting there
in abject horror and terror as she is being really
murdered on a train with other people around by this
maniac because she sat in front of him. She fled
a war zone and thought I'll be safe in America.
But because of social justice processters, because of this left

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wing idea that social justice and racial justice equals soft
on crime. Because of that, she is dead. Because of that,
she is no longer with us. It is a stain
on this country that we would bring a refugee in,
a true refugee from the war right, not a fake

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refugee like Biden was bringing in by the millions, Someone
who fled a warzone, and is murdered brutally on a
subway train. This is a huge story because it hits
home for so many people, because we don't want to
be afraid on light rail, and we increasingly in these
Democrat run cities with Democrat prosecutors and Democrats in the

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at the top of the police department. Democrats as mayors
who view part of their role as trying to offset
the crime statistics. Who's doing the crimes, well, we have
to make sure we treat them less harshly because it
looked bad to us as Democrats. No, I think we
should just punish whoever's doing the crimes as severely as
we can for the severe offenses that they are committing.

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And this then brings me to the coverage of this incident.
I want to get into the criminal justice component of
this some more because Trump is right on all of this.
He is right about what he's doing in DC. He's
right when he says he should go into Chicago. We
actually don't have to live this way. And I remember
what it was like. I remember what it was like

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in New York when the choice had been made in
the nineties we were going to live this way. That
there are going to be people who are committing crimes
over and over again, that we're going to be praying,
acting in a predatory fashion against their fellow human beings,
without consequence and without accountability. Why because it's society's fault.
Society failed them, or it was a history of prejudice

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or a history of injustice, or who knows, who knows.
Maybe if we had just legalized drugs, it would have
all gone away. All the vince, all just wrong lies,
never makes the situation better, in fact, makes the situation worse.
How many stories had the New York Times done? As
I went on air on this zero and I checked

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just to be sure, not a single story in the
New York Times, a mega viral video of a heinous
murder of an unarmed girl, a refugee from Ukraine. What
about all the Ukraine flags in the bios everybody? What
about all these lives with their slava Ukraine?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
All about Ukraine? One of our people brought into this
country as an actual refugee from Ukraine, brutally murdered. They
have no interest. No stories in the Washington Post, no
stories in the New York Times. I'm not even saying
page you know, c seventeen or something. No, no, none, zero,
no interest in this, no interest in this. CNN had

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run its first story on this uh an hour ago,
in part because of the outcry of everybody online saying,
how can you not how can this not be a story?
And maybe here's a better way to put it, why
is this not a story? But I just watched this documentary,
which I will recommend to you because it just shows
how insane the system is and how it has everything

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backwards in so many ways. Why was Jesse Smolette's fake
hate crime national news that required the most powerful Democrats
in the country to express immediate solidarity with that fraud,
with that liar, with that narcissistic loon. You know the
answer to the question, because he is in a He

(09:38):
is an oppressed and aggrieved minority and a member of
the LGPTQ plus community. And so the Democrats take a
certain position on this because it attacked MAGA, because it
attacked people who are on the right, because it was
supposedly not to Nigerian bodybuilder friends of his, but actually
a couple of white guys, which of course, as we know,

(10:00):
it was not. But they liked that narrative so they
ran with it. Why are there so few stories about
this across the entire internet. Isn't it about clicks? Isn't
it about getting attention? This is getting you find yourself.
And I can't recommend that you watch the video, by
the way, because it will haunt you. So I leave
that to you. There was a time when I had

(10:22):
seen so many beheading videos when I was in the CIA,
by gie hottists, not by criminals who were let out
by judges in this country. But I had seen so
many beheading videos that I just I was like, I
really need to just not watch see these because obviously
in the CIA we had a whole, unfortunately, a whole
trove of these things from the Jihatis that we were fighting.

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But when you've seen enough of that you want to
forget it. You won't be able to forget this attack.
You won't be able to forget this video. Maybe you
should see it anyway, I think you probably should, but
I leave that to you to your discretion, because you
see just how vicious, how violent, how heinous it is.
It's so ugly, it's so wrong. It goes right to

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your core, your basic soul as a human being who
could do such a thing. Well, this fellow, de Carlos Brown,
an African American arrested fifteen times, went before a judge
recently and once again she let him out on no

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cash bail January of twenty twenty five. Last month, his
public defender questioned his mental capacity, but the judge wanted
to order a forensic evaluation, ordered Brown to remain free.
You see, the system decided that he was going to
continue to roam free, that this would not be a
case that they would take seriously. They won't do anything

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until he murders somebody, until he murders, in this case,
a defenseless white girl, a refugee from Ukraine, and now
they'll maybe do something. I think that a lot of
the calls not just for increased justice, but a lot
of the calls for the death penalty and a restoration
of taking criminal justice seriously in this country are getting

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louder because people are recognizing that they are correct, that
they are right, and that taking a restorative justice, social justice,
all these different phrases that are used, they are failures.
They are failures that encourage evil people to continue to
do evil things. Okay, we all know there's a difference
between somebody who's caught, you know, with drugs one time

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and somebody who has been arrested ten times, fifteen times,
fifty times. New York just had a story about sixty offenders,
six zero offenders who have committed thousands, thousands of criminal
infractions on the subway thousands And how you say to you, shoff,
how are they not in prison? Look at the treatment

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of and it absolutely goes to the mindset of is
Look at the treatment of absolutely non island and harmless
to their fellow Americans. J six nonviolent prisoners. Look at
the way they use the system. Lock them up, ruin
their lives, destroy them, put them in solitary confinement. But
barbarians running around stabbing people, murdering people, raping people. We

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need to give them a second chance. We need to
make sure that we don't go too far here. When
criminals go to their fifteenth or twentieth hearing before a judge,
it's really time to think about restorative justice. No, I
think people have seen enough of that. And this is
why the lib media, this is why the PBS, New

(13:40):
York Times, BBC, CNN just did a story finally, because
of all the pressure this is why they don't want
to cover this, because they know the American people are
fed up and they've had enough. There is absolutely no
justification for this murderer to have been on the streets.
Everyone in the system failed, everybody who was a prosecutor,

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a judge, everyone who was involved in what is supposed
to be taking this individual off the street so he
cannot prey on his fellow human beings. They all failed,
and they should face consequences. People should lose their jobs
over this. People should be removed from office over this.
And I'm just talking about along the way and this individual,

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of course allegedly because he hasn't gone through his judicial
process yet. But assuming that we all know what happened here,
because there's a crystal clear video of it, what better
case could there be for someone to face the death
penalty than this? What more clear situation could you even
draw up in your mind? And yet a fraction of

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the stories, if that then really almost zero from half
of the press, and or rather half the country's press
as we know it's ninety percent. But the Democrat media
has no interest in this story. Well, it's because it's
indefensible and we all see it and they're on the defense,
and we need to keep the pressure on, all right.
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
As you know, I've got a book coming out in January,
but the pre order link will be up soon for
Manufacturing Delusion. That is the title of the book. Very
excited to finally get it out to all of you.
It took a long time for me to actually write
it because I write my own book, or I wrote
my own book. I was going to say books there,

(16:26):
but it's the first book and it took quite a
while to get it through the CIA process. So there
will be some fun buck old school CIA stories in
the book. All cleared, all fine, No risk of national
security because it's also been quite a while, but those
are in the book as well. So Manufacturing Delusion. I
don't think the link is up on Amazon yet, but
it will be soon. But I bring it up because

(16:49):
one of the chapters in the book is on weaponized law,
which I think is very apropos I think it absolutely
is something we need to think long and hard about this,
as we've seen the weaponization of the justice system really
reach its absolute peak against Donald Trump and I mean

(17:09):
the the political weaponization. That's something that had been building
for a long time. Republicans have been subjected to judicial
and prosecutorial harassment for the most obvious partisan reasons for
a long time. Really goes back to the Bush era,
and it goes back to Scooter Libby. I can speak

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about this one in tremendous detail. I was at the
CIA when this whole thing happens. You can imagine, I
had a pretty good idea of what was going on.
But the Scooter Libby case, which was a case where
they brought an investigation about a leak that they knew
very quickly had nothing to do with Scooter Libby, but
they kept the thing going, Oh wait, is it up?

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Is it up? Alli? Is that what you're saying? It
is up? All right? Look at that manufactur stre delusion,
how the left uses brainwashing, indoctrination, and propaganda against you.
You can pre order, my friends, go check it out.
It's a really cool book. I'm going to tell you.
I think I I've got to stack here. I think
I read something like thirty books in the research process
for it. Now, some of those books I did sections of,

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or read sections of. To be fair but it was
a lot of reading, a lot of research. Took me
a long time, but it's basically, how do you make people,
how do you make people go crazy in the service
of politics, of bad politics. That's the very short thesis.
And I think you'll really enjoy it, so you can go.
Please if you do pre orders, it means they'll probably
print more of these things when it actually comes out,
So please go pre order on the site, you can

(18:40):
pre order the kindle. I think, whatever, pre order whatever
you can. But there's a whole chapter on weaponized law,
because this is not a new thing, but it has
been it has been done until talitarian societies. That's what
I start with. There's this belief that the law is
something that totalitarian regime abandoned. It's actually not true. They mutate, bastardize,

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you know, transform in the service of evil the law.
But they use the law as a tool. Certainly they
did a Nazi Germany and even the Soviets. The Soviets
had a constitution and you know that was completely ignored,
but they try to take the beginnings, they the foundations
of legal rationale and use it for their own purposes.

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I bring this up one because I wanted to tell
you about the book, and I'm very excited. I'll get
to do like signings. I'll go hang out with you
in places across the country, I think. But again, in
January is when the book actually officially will be released.
But I just hope a lot of you buy it.
You want me to write a second book. A lot
of you got to buy this one, because man, this
took a lot of work. I'll tell you this took
a lot of work, and a lot of people in

(19:49):
this business. I'm not gonna name names. A lot of
people in this business they like pay someone to write
their book for them. I just don't agree with that.
I don't I don't like that. I don't know unless
you're a former president or something, and everyone assumes somebody
else is just writing your ghost writing your memoir. I
write my books. Clay writes his books. Of course, his
book Balls is coming out too, so you should buy that.
But you got two guys who actually go through that

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whole process. So it is a true labor of love
for us. All right? Why am I talking about it today?
Though this appeals court has just denied the Trump effort
to toss an eighty three million dollar judgment in the
EG and Carol case that just happened today. There's so
much that's wrong here. Okay, there's so much about this
that is just. But this is Democrat jury, Democrat city,

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Democrat judge judges, multiple judges now going through this, and
they're just waging political warfare through the legal system. Has
nothing to do with anything else. And you know, the
judges that are looking at this, they're not applying the law.
What they're doing is wrong. What they're doing is grotesque.
But let's start with this eighty three million dollars for defamation.

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How do you come to that figure? Eighty three Can
someone to defame me and give me eighty three million dollars?
I'll take it. They can say whatever they want eight
but they got to give me eighty three million dollars. Okay,
that is a vast fortune. That is a tremendous eight
million dollars would be a big defamation. You know that.
That's like a pretty major I think Trump got what

(21:20):
fourteen million from CBS News check me on that one, guys.
I think it is fourteen million something like that. That's
for a corporate organization intentionally defaming them. But Trump eighty
three million dollars. You just start with that figure and
you say this is a scam. I mean, this is absurd, absurd.
How do you why not eight? Why not eight trillion dollars?

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I just would want to I'd want to ask these judges.
The three judge panel US Court of Appeals for the
Second Circuit says, the jury's damage awards are fair and reasonable.
What planet do they live on? What planet are these
people living on? These judges and the jury, they're living
on planet I hate Trump. That's it. That's it. Everything
else is irrelevant. There is no logical way to get here.

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In twenty twenty three, this is the Washington Post, a
jury found that Trump had sexually abused Carroll, awarded her
five million dollars in damages. Second Circuit rejected Trump's appeal
in that case. And then you've got this one. A
jury concluded Trump defamed Carol and ordered him to pay
eighty three million dollars. Trump's filing has called this a

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grossly excessive, compensatory impunitive damages. Of course it is. But
that's the point, right, that's the point. You know, I
always say the process is the punishment. Well, in this case,
the price tag is the punishment. And just as we
saw with the Letitia James scam, I don't even remember
what was what was that guy's hundreds of millions of
dollars hundreds of millions of dollars to take from Trump

(22:51):
in the organization trying to bar his sons from being
able to practice law in this I mean, sorry, I
do be officers of a company not practice law officers
of the company in the state of New York or
what world are these people living in where they think
that this is fair or this is just. And that's
just on the scale of the on the scale of

(23:13):
the punit of damage this here, that alone should be
considered laughable to any reasonable person. But remember Trump, arrangement
syndrome is real. It should be classified in the DSM,
the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders. It
should be in the DSM. They should put the trans
thing back in the DSM. A gender dysphoria, that's one thing,

(23:34):
and then you should have trumped arrangement syndrome in there too.
Because people are just when it comes to this guy,
they are absolutely nuts. They will forget about everything, they
will abandon everything. In fact, I talk about this kind
of Massisterian mass mobilization. And the wonderful book Manufacturing Delusion,
which you should all go check out and get a
pre order of. This is one of the things I
write it. So there's the weaponized law. There's also just engendering,

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if you will, or creating mass delusion MASSESTERI. And they've
done this against Trump such that you can't even begin
to reason with people that are in the grips of this,
even though here we are he's president, and like, look
look at it, look at the country. Actually things are
going great as relatively speaking, there's still a lot of problems.
But from the perspective of what decisions are being made

(24:19):
by this administration this first year up to September, you know,
September eighth today, the first year, it's a it's an
AA minus maybe for Trump, you know, maybe AA minus.
Can't give an A plus because that's perfect, it's really good.
He's done a really good job, and the economy is
doing very well, and the country is doing very well overall,

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and yet they're still in the grip of Trump arrangement syndrome.
I go to e Gen Carrol's specific suit here as well.
So on the eighty three million dollars. This has just
been upheld. This this is supposed to write or check
for eighty three million dollars because he said that, you
know she, I think he said something like she's not
my type and that she's lying. So now, if you

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profess your continued innocence about a sexual assault from thirty
something years ago, thirty something years ago, no criminal you know,
no criminal trial, no criminal charges, foul. If you profess
your innocence, you can be sued into destruction essentially. Now, well,
Trump's got enough money that he can pay this. But

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and then the other part of this that I think
everyone forgets. This was only possible because the state of
New York changed the statute of limitations for adult sexual
assault cases. It would it would have been three years.
This is civil. Remember, this is not a criminal This
is not a criminal thing. This is a civil thing.

(25:45):
They extended they gave a one year like statute of
limitations holiday. And this is by the way, I'm just
gonna tell you this is it's wrong what they I
think it's unethical to do that. That the Trump team
brought this up and said that this is this should
be unconst institutional you're changing this status of the law.
And it was used very clearly to go I mean,

(26:06):
to go after Trump here. I know they're gonna say, oh,
but it was going to be it was in process beforehand.
Egen Carol filed her lawsuit day one that this Statute
of Limitations holiday went into effect. But I mean, you
could create that Statute of Limitations holiday in any number
of contexts, and you effectively negate the whole statute of
limitations where you can go to somebody and say it's

(26:30):
you know, if you accuse me of this is what
they did to Kavanaugh, right, if you accuse somebody of
something from forty years ago now and that there's no
evidence for well, there's also no evidence for them to
be for it to be exculpatory, because you can't immediately,
you can't call the witnesses, you can't bring together now
Kavanaugh actually did to some degree because one that was
a complete and utter lie. Unless someone's a moron, they

(26:53):
could see through the whole thing. But he also had
his calendar and there were some things except that he
could show. But it's really hard to prove you didn't
do a thing to somebody thirty years ago. Uh, when
it's just you saying something and they're saying something. How
is Trump supposed to prove that he was innocent of this?

(27:13):
How is that supposed to happen? How is he supposed
to even make the case. Someone says there's no there's
no footage, there's no proof. There's oh, but that the
whole point is that they Hey, Trump, the whole point
is weaponized law. The whole point is that he has
to now write an eighty three million dollar check to
a woman who went on CNN and said, and I quote,
some people think rape is sexy end quote. That is

(27:33):
what she said. You can pull the audio on that
on CNN, and I remember watching in real time as
Anderson Cooper's face just went, uh, Okay, Now this woman's
gonna get an eighty three million dollar check. She's gonna
have multi generational wealth bestowed upon her for this whole thing.
And defamed her? How did he defame her? Trump doesn't
agree with what she said. That's defamatory. Look this, we

(27:59):
we're gonna have to have a big cleanup of the
law in this country and of people who are in
positions of authority. They have to be removed by whatever processes.
This goes even to the stabbing, to the fatal stabbing
of this brutal murder of this Ukrainian girl, where the
judges and the you have to start saying who allowed this,

(28:19):
who signed off on this? Who were the people in
this chain of events whose job it was to be
just and fair and decent with regard to the law,
and they just abandoned all of that because they like
a person or don't like a person. The judge that

(28:39):
let that maniac free, she's something in that guy she saw.
She goes, he needs a fifteenth or a fourteenth chance.
I see something in him that makes me think I'm
gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. And the
judges in this case, with looking at the EG and
Carol case, they go, I'm looking at Trump and I'm thinking,
no benefit of the doubt. Not that there should be
any doubt in this, but no, I'm going to go

(29:01):
against Trump on this one. Something I see in him
that I don't like. That's not the way it's supposed
to be. It is not supposed to be left up
to the politics of these individuals to determine what is just,
what is fair, and one is within our system, and
this is why Trump passed to and the people that
are entrusted by this administration have to take a strong
hand in cleaning up this mess, stopping this madness from

(29:24):
ember happening again. Just because law fair against Trump failed
in this last election does not mean that the people
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Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?

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Sounds like a trendy new workout buck.

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It does, but it's actually a big summit going on
in Brazil. The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
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Well that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
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Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
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ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. It's started the first
hour with the biggest story I would say, in the
country right now, despite the extensive efforts by the Democrat
media to make this story go away, despite efforts by

(33:03):
Wikipedia editors to remove the article from Wikipedia. Despite all
of that, because we have shows like this one, and
because we have X where there is not the left
wing elbow on this scale all the time, as there

(33:23):
are on so many of these other social media platforms,
and I'm curious. I basically stopped using for anything other
than just posting photos of Ginger or speed like Instagram
and Facebook. I don't know if there's I assume they're
still doing the kind of political nonsense that they've always
been doing. But at least on X you can share

(33:43):
the truth. At least on X there's some chance of
finding out what's really going on. And so this story
of a Ukrainian refugee, Irena Zarutzka, twenty three years old,
a beautiful young one. On August twenty second, she is
heinously murdered by a maniac with a knife sitting behind her.

(34:10):
It's all on video, and it's just it is true
nightmare fuel. It's the worst kind of situation because any
one of us can be sitting anywhere, and there's supposed
to be some belief that the system is protecting us.
I know it doesn't, but we're supposed to believe at
some level the system protects us, that dangerous psychopaths who

(34:33):
have proven themselves over and over to be a danger
of the public will be incarcerated, will no longer be
able to threaten the general public. But what you say
is that you have a situation like this where the
alleged murderer to Carlos Brown, a black man who has
been arrested thirteen times, including assaults previous assaults against women,

(34:59):
This man murdered this woman. She's a you can see
in the video with the video is just harrowing to watch.
She's a blonde haired white girl. And the media doesn't
want to talk about this, even though it's all over
the internet. I mean, it's if you're judging it by
internet focus. This is the biggest story in the country

(35:22):
right now and one thing we talked about in that
first hour, and if you missed it, I would advise
you please go back and listen, because I really, I
think laid it out and got into all the different
layers of the story. But one component of that is
when is it indicative of a broad When is an incident.
Let's put it this, say, when is a murder national news?
When is a murder national news? If it's particularly heinous,

(35:46):
as this clearly was, you tend to think that maybe
it will be national news. Depens if it is a
murder of a black person by a white person that
is also heinous, the chance of it being national news
is essentially one hundred percent right. It will turn into
a story. In fact, it could just be a hoax
hate crime, as we talked about with Jesse Smolett. But

(36:08):
if it is alleged that two white Trump voters did
something mean to a gay black man in Chicago, it's
it is walthall coverage national news. This happens again and again.
I understand we're not supposed to notice but the Democrats
war on noticing has gone on law long enough. We've noticed,
we get this, we understand this dynamic. When is something

(36:32):
indicative of a broader problem, we have to have a
national conversation about I talked to you about all of
the BLM cases. They'll discuss, Oh, this is indicative of
police and how police are racist and our society's racist.
And you say, well, hold on, no it's not. And
first of all, on some of the BLM cases, it
was completely lawful use of force. But put that aside.
In what way does the elevation of George Floyd to

(36:53):
near sainthood by the left, a career criminal who died
of a fental overdose with a cop with a knee
on his back, his neck, In what way does that
advance society's interest? It doesn't by telling this story about us. Oh,
it's that one incident in Minnesota means there should be
riots all over the country, race riots all over the
country based on what It's very rare for an unarmed

(37:17):
black man to be killed by law enforcement in this country.
This is a fact people can argue, but it's a
fact very rare by the numbers, And so why is
it indicative of a broader conversation. You'll notice on the
other side of things, why is it that when a
white woman is murdered by a career criminal who is
a black man, Why is this not something that gets

(37:40):
more attention? That is what everyone is asking right now.
That is what the conversation is, at least among people
that want to take a look at criminal justice with seriousness.
And so that brings me to this story of the
Ukrainian girl who was killed by this man who was
again career criminal, should not have been on the streets.
Judges saw that this was a problem, they decided not

(38:03):
to act on it. This isn't even the only story
like this out there right now. Again, this goes to
our when is it in dick When is there a
bigger problem? When is a systemic failure versus it's just
a thing, a random thing that happened. Right If somebody
is walking their dog in my neighborhood and they are
truly struck and we get a lot of thunder light

(38:23):
lightning storms here, now they're struck by lightning. Do I
am I going to march out in the streets and
be angry about thunder and lightning?

Speaker 5 (38:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It's a horrible random event, a sad event, a tragic event.
And I'd say, well, sometimes people get struck by lightning.
You know, there's no systemic change to be had as
a result of that other than you know, try to
not be out there in a really serious lightning storm.
But you know, who knows, right, Sometimes it's fine. Okay.
So we had that story about the Ukrainian girl, this

(38:52):
white Ukrainian girl, she's murdered by this guy. He's a
queer criminal. He's a black guy. He was known to
authorities for a long time. And okay, you say, well, buck,
that's that's just one incident. Well, here's another incident from
over the weekend. A beloved This is from the New
York Post, a belove ex veterinary professor, was hacked to

(39:14):
death while walking her dog in an Alabama park where
she took her pet to exercise almost daily. The killer
stole her truck and fled, but was caught by cops
a short distance away. The next day, the body of
doctor Julie Schnuell fifty nine, a former professor of large
animal medicine at Auburn University College of Veterinary Medicine, was

(39:36):
discovered in a wooded area on Saturday afternoon. The truck
was recovered on Sunday. By the way, the dog, I mean,
like cry even it's a horrible, you know story, it's
such a tragedy. Dog was okay. The dog stayed by
the owner's body the whole time. I'm you know, dogs amazing,
you know, a gift from God for all of us

(39:57):
who have dogs. But uh, just so, the guy arrested
for this capital murder, Harold Rashad Dabney A he's a
black man with a history of you know, a history
of crime. And so you sit there and you go,

(40:19):
all right, is this now a story for the national medium?
Why not tainous? Why isn't it a bigger thing? Isn't
this you know, you hear this old phrase for the
for the news media, if it bleeds, it leads right horrible.
But it's true. I mean that's the way it generally goes.
You turn on local news and I an't given a

(40:40):
night there's a shooting, that's usually the number one story
in the local news, national news. Why isn't this a
bigger story? Why isn't this situation something that we're supposed
to have a national conversation about I mean, here's another
white woman who was stabbed to death by a black man,
and nobody wants to talk about it at CNN, MSNBC,

(41:02):
the New York Times, the Washington Post. Now you could
just say, well, that's just about media focus, you know,
because so what's the takeaway from this, Because if it's
just about the media focus and about you're not supposed
to notice that when the race is this is where
you go. What if the races were different? Right? What
if it was if it was a young black woman
who was stabbed to death by a white guy, would

(41:23):
this be the biggest story in the country in every
news outlet out there? Yes, yes it would. And so
you say, well, why is that happening? You change the races,
and you change the national media's interest in the story.
This is something you wanted to talk about a national conversation.
This is a national conversation that should be had. Why
does that Why don't we all know that that is

(41:44):
the case. Why do we know that the New York
Times is not covering this or the Ukrainian refugee being
stabbed to death at all. We know they're doing it
for ideological reasons. We know they're doing it because of
the narrative, because of their desire to suppress, And you
can say, well, is this important? Right? That's another layer

(42:05):
of this one is understanding why the media covers us
the way that they do. Right, Any violence against a
black person by a non black, particularly by a white person,
is national news by its very nature. According to the
New York Times Washington Posts, you'll see this over and
over again, or is certainly much more likely to be
national news than when it is the reverse. This is
just observable, observable fact by everybody. Why is that? Isn't

(42:29):
it just a human being? A stab the death in
a heinous way. We should treat the action as worthy
of public notice the same, irrespective of what the victim's
race would be. Why is one more important to the
media than another, or at least the Democrat media. You
asked that question. And then the other part of it is, so,

(42:50):
here we have two cases of women's stab to death,
white women's stab the death by black men in recent
in you know, this just happened off the weekend. The
other one happened a few weeks ago in the most
grisly horrific fashion. And there's just an absolute lack of
interest in this. And then we compare from a lot
of the media, and then we compare it to the
Jossy's a small let case. We compare it to George Floyd.

(43:14):
We compare it to Mike Brown BLM hands up all
the or Trayvon Martin. We're the president at the time,
Barack Obama said if I had a son, he would
look like Trayvon. I mean, that was That's the level
of attention those stories got. Why why Trayvon Martin shouldn't
have jumped on a guy and pounded his head into
the pavement because they had some kind of a disagreement,
the guy had a gun. That wasn't a good idea.

(43:36):
Why did the president have to weigh in on that one?
Because it became a story, transformed into a story of
white racism in the Trayvon Martin case, that was remarkable. Right,
a Latino guy gets into a fight with a with
a black guy and it's about white racism. I mean,
this is what they do. This is what the media does.
But the other part of it is we want this

(43:58):
to stop, and we wanted to stop because when we
seor how we want it to stop, is when you
see these cases and you see these people that have
been through the system, they are a clear and present
danger to the society that they are in, and they
need a lengthy period of incarceration and rehabilitation would be nice.

(44:21):
But more importantly, they can't stab any ladies to death,
walking their dogs, or taking the subway if they're in
a prison cell. And we've tried the other way. We
didn't want to, but the country has been put through this.
We have seen the Democrat sorrows prosecutor way, which is,
you know, in the interests of social justice and the

(44:41):
interests of racial justice and the interest of you know,
righting historical wrongs, or however they want to frame this,
we're going to go soft on people who have no
sense of respect for the law, who have no accountability,
and who are a danger to those around them. And
enough is enough. And this brings me, of course to

(45:02):
the Daniel Penny case in New York City on the
subway authorities prospect authorities wanted to lock him up because
there was a maniac. In this case, the maniac was
a black guy and the guy who stepped in was
a white guy. There was a maniac who had been arrested,
who had assaulted people, who'd over and over and over again,
and someone Daniel Penny, stepped up and was like, I
can't allow this threat against these women in this way.

(45:25):
And the jury had defined in his favor, not the system.
The system wanted to destroy his life. The jury had
defined in his favor because there were enough people on
that jury that are sick of the system failing and
saying it is about justice. They are sick of the
injustice that this system perpetuates over and over again, allowing

(45:48):
the constant victimization of people, by the way, the disproportionate
victimization of the black community, by the very small percentage
within that community who are black. What could be better
for neighborhoods that have too much crime then making them
relatively crime free, making them safe so that you know,

(46:11):
the black moms and black dads and black residents can
go to their jobs, can go to their work and
go to the park, do whatever they want to do
in peace, safety and tranquility. That's the way it's supposed
to be for all of us. And I think we've
just reached a point where whoever it is that has
to get locked up, the small part. I told you
about the end the New York City stats about the subway.

(46:32):
Sixty three people, five thousand arrests. We're not saying lock
up you know millions of people here. You're saying, lock
up to sixty three save yourself. Thousands of arrests. Make
the subway safer for everybody. What is the counter argument
to this? There's some kind of a sickness in the
liberal mind. What is the counter argument to this other

(46:52):
than you know, social justice. We're all you're racist. It's like,
it's not racist. You know what's horrible. What's horrible is
to leave minority of you know, dominant communities to hide
crime rates because you're unwilling to take the one percent
that's committing all the crimes and lock them up. That's horrible,

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Now, you're only seeing the very beginnings of this, so
you know, during the first few weeks, of course, we've
seen these radical reductions of violent crime. We're just getting
started DA A T F FBI. I've only just begun
to identify, disrupt, and dismantle the criminal organizations that have
been wregking havoc on the city for so long, and
we're going to take him apart, member by member, group
by group, piece by piece.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
That is Stephen Miller saying that the law enforcement UH
deployment bring down crime is just beginning. On of course,
the issue of immigration, but also on violent crime. We're
joined now by Heather MacDonald. She's a fellow at the
Manhattan Institute and also author of Well the War on
Cops and When Race Trump's Merit. Heather, always good to

(49:15):
have you on the program.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
Thank you so much, Bud.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I have to say I expect a certain degree of
what we're going to talk about, but Heather, for two
heinous murders to occur within pretty close proximity in terms
of time, a couple of weeks of each other. The
New York Times hasn't covered either of them. The Washington
Post hasn't covered either the murder of this veterinarian professor

(49:39):
in Alabama and also the murder in North Carolina of
this Ukrainian refugee. People see this and our outrage understandably
what's going on here?

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Well, sadly, it's all about race. The black on white
crime gets virtually no attention, and we're supposed to believe
that white on black crime is the dominant reality in
our country today. It is not. A twenty twenty three
study from the National Academy of Sciences left wing group
left wing professors involved in it said that there is

(50:13):
virtually zero white on black homicides in this country and
that blacks are thirty five times more likely to commit
an act of violence against whites than vice versa. That
is a narrative that is simply not allowed into the
public sphere. And we have allowed this crime to get
out of control for the absolutely phony reason that we

(50:37):
don't if we incarcerate people, will put more black criminals
in jail. Of course, the answer to that is yes,
but blacks are overwhelmingly the victims of crime, but they
don't count because we only care about black victims in
the excruciatingly rare instances when they're killed by a police

(50:58):
officer or even more rarely, a non official white person.
We have completely forgotten the purpose of government buck, which
is to protect the law abiding. We're living through the
great inversion, where government has decided that its priorities are

(51:20):
for the dysfunctional, the criminal, the antisocial. It loads rights
on people that are a threat to society, and it
treats the law abiding merely as ATMs for government's effeckless
social policies from now on, and Trump is leading us
in this direction. We have the government has one obligation

(51:43):
and one obligation only protect life, protect property, protect safety.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
You know, Heather, I'm sure you might have seen this.
There's already some very interesting and somewhat or very troubling
conversations around particularly the Ukrainian, the Ukrainian refugee who was
murdered on video on the North Carolina light rail and
Charlotte people just starting to gofund me. Those have been
taken down Wikipedia trying to take this off the case

(52:12):
off of Wikipedia. That obviously is getting attention. But this
from Axios. You know, bodycams I think are the single
biggest impediment that BLM has to three point zero. I mean,
I've been tech talking to this for a while. That
the more familiar people become with body camera footage in general,
but also in specific incidents, the less likely they are
to believe some of these tales and some of these

(52:34):
initial narratives that are put out there. Axios wrote the
rising this is just this morning. The big picture, the
rising number of surveillance cameras in public spaces, including on
Charlotte's light rail, has become a big accelerant. In these cases,
the video is easily shared or leaked and can pollinate
across social media. I'm starting to feel like they don't

(52:55):
want us to see what's going on.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
It's hilarious. I found that headline simply stunning. It is
about as clarifying as it gets. They had control of
the narrative. They decided what the public was allowed to
know and what it wasn't. The public is completely in
the dark about the reality of inner city crime because
the media has decided we don't dare to know it

(53:20):
because we might become racists. And Axios and the mainstream
media is terrified that they are losing control of the narrative.
That's why, of course Biden tried, through the collusion of
the pressure on social media companies to shut down x

(53:42):
for once. You know, we were also optimistic about the
web when it came into being. We thought it's going
to crowdsource knowledge, and then it turned out to have
many many downsides as far social addiction to this. But
here again is one of the great upsides is it
does give the people a way to fight back against

(54:03):
the censorship of the elite media establishment and the elite
political establishment as well.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
When President Trump was speaking about this is you recently
talked about no cash bail and just the can you
just take us back a little bit in time here
heather to the argument that we had to have no
cash bail in places like New York and then what
has this what are the numbers told us this has resulted? Enemy,
what has that carnage looked like?

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Well, the argument, and I'm going to be honest here, Buck,
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the anti bail argument because it
is sort of a form of preemptive detention before you
have made a judgment that under a probable cause standard
of criminal guilt. But the argument is, the non race

(54:54):
argument is that it's unfair to the poor. It is
economic discriminatory because if you don't have the money to
make cash bail, you're going to be held and if
you have the money, you're going to be out. The
real argument, again, everything I'm sorry to say it is depressing,
it's disheartening, but everything in our criminal justice system today

(55:16):
is driven by race. And that means it's driven by
the fact that the crime rate among blacks is exponentially
higher than among whites. Again, we're not supposed to say
these things, but that's why we are not enforcing the law.
That is why we are not imposing bail. It is
why judges are letting people go, and above all, it's
why prosecutors are not prosecuting crimes. And it's also driving

(55:40):
our mental health system. I mean, in New York you
can see it, these schizophrenics. De Carlos Brown was a schizophrenic.
They're all out on the streets. It's like a scene
out of Bedlam. And that too, we're not going to
incarcerate the mentally ill or take them off the streets
because again, racial disproportionality. And so there is some argument

(56:05):
that the failure to impose bail is allowing a lot
of recidivism. I think the solution is to just give
judges power with regards. I would get rid of the
cash component and just give judges the ability to say no,
you're risk, you're being held. And you know, again, this

(56:26):
is where the great inversion comes in. Buck. You get
at most one free bite of the apple and then
that's it. This is a statistical certainty. It was a
known certainty that something like this horrific stabbing and the
stabbing in Alabama was going to happen. When you allow criminals,

(56:46):
when you allow the mentally ill drug addicted on the streets,
it will happen. That is no longer acceptable. We have
to put the burden on the criminal to justify himself.
The responsibility is to protect the public. If somebody has
committed one crime that is putting the establishment, the government

(57:09):
officials unnoticed, they will likely commit it again. We have
to be much more safety protective. Right now, all we
care about is protecting the rights of the mentally ill,
the vagrants and the criminals. That has got to end.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You know, there's this story Heather in the New York Post.
I'm sure you saw it, your New Yorker, about sixty
three people who are responsible, and I would not have
I would have guessed that it was six hundred and
thirty arrests. No no, five thousand, five thousand arrests among
sixty three people. You hear this, How is that even
how is it even possible? Well, they've got people like
this guy, twenty eight year old Kenny Mitchell, this is

(57:47):
the New York Post arrested a total of one hundred
and forty nine times, eighteen times since May of this
year for alleged theft and forgery found lying on the
sea train platform with pockets full of crack vials. But
one hundred and fifty someone's arrested one hundred and fifty times.
What is a judge doing when this person the one

(58:10):
hundred and forty ninth time goes in front of them? Like,
what is the thought process?

Speaker 6 (58:15):
The thought process is I am? My responsibility is to
the down trodden, the allegedly down trodden, the discriminated against
the people that are the victims of racial injustice. That's
who I care about. The public is not before me. Again,
this has to end if there's any excuse about we

(58:37):
don't have the jail space to hold people, we don't
have the mental institutions to hold people. Build them, Trump,
build them. You know, I'm not a big fan of
distributing federal tax dollars to localities because it's just a
shell game. It's the same tax dollars that began in
the locality that come back to it minus you know,

(58:58):
fifty percent of red tape having gone to Washington and back. Nevertheless,
if there's anything that deserves federal funding, build the jails,
build the facilities. Get rid of the damn laws that
give priority to keeping the homeless people on the streets.
Get rid of the homeless outreach teams. This is not housing.

(59:23):
Everybody on the street has been offered shelter multiple times.
They do not have the right to say no. They
do not have the right to colonize. You can go
to Penn Station. You will see dozens of De Carlos Browns.
They are walking time bombs. They are going to explode,
and every time they explode, that is on the hands

(59:45):
of our government officials. They have one duty, and one
duty only protect the public. Their duty is not to
protect the dysfunctional and the anti social.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You know, Heather are just another staff from this New
York Post Peace. Ten years ago, eighty one percent of
transit felony arrests in New York City resulted in convictions.
It's thirty six percent today. It's not because they're arresting
all the wrong people.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
It's because again we feel guilty wrongly as a society.
We have historical guilt. We are not guilty today. This
is not a white supremacist society. It is just the opposite.
We are giving benefits and opportunities and preferences to underrepresented
minorities all the time. It is time to end the

(01:00:36):
racial grift, to end the racial guilt again. If you
want to play this black victims by all means, do it.
When we allow criminals to stay on the streets, it's
the safe. The safety observing hard working residents of East Harlem,

(01:00:57):
the South Side of Chicago that are finding their children
gunned down. The media and the activists tell them hilariously
that they should fear white people or they should fear
the National Guard. Are you kidding me? The National Guard
is their only hope. And we have this completely contradictory
message on the one hand that comes out of the

(01:01:19):
New York Times and everybody else in Washington postble the
National Guard is making everybody scared. They're like so traumatized,
and yet the National Guard is going to the mall.
It is going to the Washington Mall, it is going
to the Smithsonian, It isn't going to Anacostia. So you know,
decide do you want them in the high crime neighborhoods
or not? Are you scared of them or not? The

(01:01:41):
fact is is that law enforcement works. As you were
saying earlier today, we know how to do this. As
you were saying earlier today, this is a choice. It
is not an inevitability. Homelessness vagrancy street conversation. Choice, policy outcome,
not victually occurring phenomenon. Policy choices. We knew how to

(01:02:03):
do this a century ago. We did not allow people
to colonize city streets. When you do do that, you're
going to get more of this. Because these people, they
have shown themselves to be threats. They have to be
off the streets. We have to say no more. And
thank heavens we have a president who understands one murder

(01:02:24):
is too many. I cannot believe in the Axio story,
they're also trotting out the usual. Well, the problem with
these videos is it's giving people a way to not
believe that crime is dropping. If I hear the crime
is dropping, meme one more time, I am going to
go nuts because it doesn't matter. It's a non sequitor.

(01:02:46):
Crime is dropping a little bit. Since it's post George
Floyd Race ride astronomical high. It doesn't matter. One is
too many. It is still way too high. Hum on
the side rate is sixty times that of Switzerland, twenty
seven times out of London in Washington, DC. This is

(01:03:07):
not acceptable in a civilized society.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Pathan McDonald, author of The War on Cops and When
Race Trump's merit. Heather always appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Thank you for having me on Buck.

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