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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Klay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show. I want to jump right to it.
The news that many of you may have seen. We
want to bring you up to speed with all of
the latest on it. Charlie Kirk's assassin has been caught,
turned himself in in fact, and we will give you
more of those details, but the alleged assassin has been
(00:22):
taken into custody. We'll walk you through the timeline this
morning of how that went, some updates on law enforcement's
role in this, the family of the shooters role in this,
and the latest on who the shooter was, the profile,
the ideology behind it, and then also I think we're
going to spend a portion of the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well. First off, of course.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Continue to commemorate our friend Charlie Kirk and the incredible
work that he did. And I think, Clay, there was
never a doubt as soon as we got the horrible
news and we're able to process what had happened, there
was never a doubt that Charlie legacy, the movement, the organization,
and what he stood for would not only continue on,
(01:08):
but I think there is a turning point toward standing
for these principles and standing for this free speech and
elevated I mean, just going forward, everybody on the right,
everybody who believes in the Constitution, everybody believes in the
First Amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It feels like we must stand.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
With this legacy of Charlie Kirk, his work, what he did,
what he stood for. We also do need to address
the widespread. Widespread is the only I think way you
could describe it. It is not fringe, It is not
on the edges, on the margins. The widespread, horrific response
(01:47):
to this assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk from elements
of the left. People are getting fired left and right,
which they deserve. But it's just astonishing because that shows
you how utterly deranged in their politics so many everyday Americans,
as well as pundits and people with followings, and so
(02:09):
we'll get into all of this, but first, Clay, let's
just go through the news events this morning as they happened.
First off, President Trump was sitting on the couch at
Fox and Friends, and he gave a pretty good indication
of what was to come.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Play clip one.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Any updates on the suspect.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, can I always say I think just to protect
us all and so Fox doesn't get sued, I think
we all don't get sued and everything else. But I
think with a high degree of certainty, we have him
in custody. In custody. Everyone did a great job. We
worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a
(02:50):
great job.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That was then confirmed later by Governor Spencer Cox of Utah.
This has cut eight saying that they do in fact
have Charlie Kirk's murderer of the assassin was in cost
that he play it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had
confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office
and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was
(03:31):
also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage
from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus
in a great Dodge challenger at approximately eight twenty nine
am on September tenth, in which he is observed on
video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,
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a black hat with a white logo, and light colored shoes.
When encountered in person by investigators in Washington on September
twelfth in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in
consistent clothing with those surveillance images.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But Clay, the investigation continues about what was said by
him online, did he have any co conspirators. There's a
lot still to unpack. But the assassin is in custody
as we speak to you now, thankfully no doubt.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And we're getting more and more information about the assassin,
and we try to avoid giving a lot. I try
to say, avoid giving names. I understand sometimes we play
media coverage where they do it. Here are some of
the identifying details that I think are starting to be revealed.
Twenty two years old was to a large degree turned
in by his dad, who was a twenty seven year
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law enforcement veteran. The dad, I'm seeing reports of we
talked about this that there's one hundred thousand dollars reward.
The dad is saying, I'm not taking the reward. But
the question that is out out there. This is a
kid grew up in a Utah home and had a
completely normal upbringing, evidently made good grades in school, did
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well on standardized test and something, and I know this
is part of what your book is about. Buck. Something
radicalized him. Something turned him from a kid that was
not particularly political according to his parents and those around him,
to expressing that he hated Charlie Kirk and being willing
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to kill Charlie Kirk. Plan it all out, all the details,
he changed clothes. Again, if you miss the press conference,
it feels very open and shutcase his motivation. I'm not
talking about what his motivation was because there'll probably be
articles where they say in the New York Times we
may never know why he did this. There were Antifa
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and anti knots, the engravings on the shell casings that
he was using to kill Charlie Kirk. So he hated
Charlie Kirk. He was a far left ideologue, committed to
Antifa and anti Nazi ideology, according to the engravings on
the bullets themselves, So we know what his motivation was.
(06:22):
To me, Buck, the story now is how how did
a kid in a normal middle class, upbringing, nuclear family.
How did he get radicalized to the point where he
was willing, by the age of twenty two, to take
a rifle and go murder someone that he had decided
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he hated because of Charlie Kirk, this because of his
political beliefs. How did that happen? And relatively short period
of time, because evidently this kid did well in high school,
made good grades, wasn't political to suddenly sitting down at
the family table screaming slogan about hating Charlie Kirk and
then his own dad has to turn him in. Yeah,
(07:05):
it's it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I can tell you from the extensive studies that have
been done and that were very much a part of
my daily life in the GWATT the Global War on Terror,
anti gi hottist days, that poverty, things like that, they
have really no bearing on radicalization and in fact, a
lot of the worst ideological terrorists. This guy's a terrorist.
(07:30):
I mean, this is will use the term assassin is accurate.
Of course, the term terrorist is also accurate. This was
violence to a political end. But this is someone who
clearly when he was hearing all of the rhetoric about
how Trump is a Nazi. How fascism has descended upon America.
(07:51):
We could sit here and we will go through some
of where these messages and where how this narrative has
been formed, because it is important because I think Clay,
this time more than you know, more than what we've
seen in a lot of other cases. This time is
one where there are random people, random people who are
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in a position to say that they have seen someone
in their own life who has celebrated this.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I've never seen anything like this before. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm seeing it all over the place, and that is
like waking up among the enemy a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That is wait a second, hold on a minute here.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know, with Trump, he's the president of the United States,
and the fact that and he and he was fine, right,
he was in a different he was in a different
situation entirely because he walked away with his fist in
the air and he was okay, And people were saying, oh,
I hope they got him. Now, that's heinous, that's heinous, right.
(09:02):
We saw the people that were making those kind of
comments online. I mean, Charlie was we all saw it
on video.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And this guy, wife and kids and.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
All these friends all these people who care about them,
love this person, and the worst thing possible happened. The
worst thing possible in that situation happened, which is that
Charlie's no longer with us. And there are people who
are are gleeful. And I don't mean a few all
over the place, thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands,
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maybe millions. I can't give a number other than to
say wading through Blue Sky Clay was like going through
an insane asylum.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Of people who are aware of their actions. Though and
I recognize that, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
They are in the grips of a delusion, but they
are responsible for what they are saying. They're not seeing
pink elephants in the sky. They believe this fascism and
Trump narrative, and it cost our friend Charlie his life,
and and there just needs to be a reckoning.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And also just an examination. I truly believe this, and
I hope I've never challenged or proven wrong in this,
because I hope it never happens. I think if Rachel Maddow,
I'm trying to think of who the equivalent is of
Charlie Kirk on the right, Let's use I'll use Rachel
Maddow as an example. Somebody that's she's.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That they they Clay, I'm not even they got this
is part of this. But the reason I wanted to
jump in on this is just because this is part
of why they're so angry, because they're so used to
having control of youth. They have nobody that's even in
the in the stratosphere of the infuence.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I'm just saying, Rachel Maddowe speaks.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Of Rachel Maddo is like an old lady. Now, I
mean she's our age, that's a totally different thing.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
But if she got shot on campus, I think you
and I and the Bass Majory of people out there
would say this is awful, this is unacceptable. I don't
think there would be an outpouring of people on the
right saying she got what she deserved or I'm happy
that this has occurred. This is not and I want
(11:16):
to say this too, this is not some fringe element
of the Democrat Party that is celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.
This is a solid twenty five or thirty percent at
least of their base celebrating the death of someone who
was killed because of his political belief.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, let's let's unpack what they're what the story is
that they tell themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How do they get to this delusion?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And yeah, McClay mentioned this, and I appreciate you brought
up this is actually the title. This is the in
the title manufacturing Delusions. This is what my book was about.
This is what it's about. Radicalization of the masses of
normal people who believe crazy things. How does this There's processes,
there's tactics, there's all these things. In this case, the
storyline that was latched onto by President Biden when he
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was president, right by the New York Times editorial page
by the biggest voices, If Trump wins, we won't have
another election. If Trump wins, our democracy is over. The
Republic no longer exists. They're going to put you in camps.
They're Nazis, well, Clay, if you and I were alive
in you know, occupied Holland or something circa nineteen forty four,
(12:31):
nineteen forty three, we would take extreme measures, right, I mean,
if we were truly under a Nazi occupation. Now you
can say that they tell people this as just a
rhetorical flourish, but that's exactly the point, it's irresponsible because
what they are doing is dehumanizing their political opponents in
a way that results in tragedy.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And it's happened again and again and again. This is
not a one off. It's just the most awful recent
one that we have seen.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I think what you started to see was in the
reaction to the United Healthcare CEO's public assassination. They made
his assassin a hero, and you pointed out that they
tried to do it with the Boston terrorists time ago.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Cover Rolling Stone looking as handsome as they could make
him look.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
That was pre social media, So I think the sort
of green shoots of this already existed. I think on
social media they have come into full fruition. And the
problem with this is this kid, I say kid, he's
twenty two. He thinks he's a hero, and a lot
of other people are going to see the way that
he has treated and it's going to embolden others to
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go out and try to kill people they disagree with politically.
I'm just telling you that that is it is open season.
Because there hasn't been some massive, some massive response and
outpouring on the left saying this is unacceptable in fact,
the exact opposite. There's a huge outpouring of celebration. People
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are risking their jobs to celebrate somebody being assassinated, losing
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
A lot of people you're seeing this, a lot of
people are getting fired. Uh and not from just MSNBC.
Like that guy Doubt, who I can tell you is
a world class I can't say it on the air
without getting in trouble, but a real bad dude.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So no tiers there. He's been a jerk for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But I mean, you know, like vet text down the
street from you, and guys who work in the in
the you know, the local restaurant or in the you
know your family.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You probably have family, may have family that's posting somebody
in your family, extended family, may get on Facebook and
suddenly you see celebrations going on for a murder and
an assassination, and you just think, what world am I
living in? I think that's one that a lot of
us have experienced this week.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, we're gonna take a lot of calls.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Today is a Friday, so make sure you light us
up with those, and please also on the talkbacks, we'll
get to those. We want to have this conversation be
as robust and widespread with all.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Of you as we can.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 5 (16:29):
It has been a heck of a draining, emotional week
for so many of us across the nation. So many
of you want to weigh in, and so for the
next couple of hours legitimately full open forums, talkbacks, calls,
we are going to get as many of you in
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as we can as we roll into the weekend. Point
worth discussing. And I was just joking about this off air,
because I do think we need a little bit of
levity in what has been a very dark week. President
Trump woke up this morning after going to the Yankee
game last night and just rode his motorcade over to
(17:10):
the Fox Studios on sixth Avenue and set down on
the Fox and Friends couch and did an hour of
live unscripted television on all subjects under the sun, including
announcing that we had the assassin of Charlie Kirk in custody.
And we just came from a president that basically could
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never do any media availabilities on any subject and Trump
just rolled in, set down on the couch, a couch
that I've set on, and guest hosted Fox and Friends
on the weekend and did an hour straight of unscripted television. Buck.
And it wasn't very long ago, about ten days ago,
that everybody decided because he took a weekend off from
doing media, that he was actually dead. And so I
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do think a big part of this larger disc gushion
needs to be how many people out there consume audience,
consume media that is consistently wrong about everything, and yet
they keep going back to it over and over and
over again in desperate demand for at some point their
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fever dreams of delusion to be certified. And I do
think that factors in here and one thing, Buck, as
we get ready to take, as we get ready to
take some calls here and take some of your talkbacks.
I want all of you to think about this. Buck
has got a book out. Honestly, these are both very
timely books where he tries to get into tell us.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The name manufacturing delusion, how the left uses brainwashing, indoctrination
and propaganda against you. I just wanted to be manufacturing delusion.
But subtitles apparently are helpful.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
And my book, and that's a very August title. My
book is called Ball, and it's about how Trump, young
men and UH and sports fans saved America. Okay, but
I do think that these are two different sides of
the same coin, much like this assassin is if you
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compare his life to Charlie Kirkson. Let me let me
just kind of run through a little bit here. I
feel immense sadness for so many young men in America
because they're for much of history. Whatever you thought of politics,
there was a consistent expectation for men. You got married,
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you busted your ass in a job. You had a
job to try to take care of your family and
provide a better life for them going forward.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You might have to go to war, you may not
have to go to get killed.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
We had an exp experience and expectation of manhood that
was universally accepted across the political spectrum. Whatever you think.
In nineteen forty five, a Democrat and a Republican represented
by and large, there was an understanding of what manhood
was and what it represented. I think so many young
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men in the wake of the me too and in
the toxic universe of this woke culture that has tried
to say manhood itself is toxic. The absence and continued
decline of religion, which helped to frankly allow the foundational
elements of the family, the nuclear family manhood. I think
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there is a desperate yearning for meaning and I think
Charlie Kirk found it. Whatever you think about him, I
think he found a foundational core tenet of life that
led him in a productive way to get married, to
have two kids, to try to communicate to these lost
young men, a pathway to what he thought would be
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a better life for them.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
One thing that sorry, yes, one thing I was going
to say, Clay, That is so important when you look
at the competing narratives here about Charlie. There's our narrative,
which is rooted in reality of a man who did
it the right way, was an inspiration, was kind, reliable,
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a father, all the things that we have said. So
I want to know you know how we feel about Charlie.
But what you will hear from a lot of people
on the left, who, of course don't know Charlie. And
this is always another thing, you know. I know this
a little bit of a digression. I know a lot
of people in media on the right, and I know
a lot of people on meeting the left, and the
people on the right are almost always better people. I'm
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just telling you the truth, okay. I mean as people.
I'm not talking about their talent. I'm not talking about
their paycheck or you know, their ratings or whatever.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
But as humans.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
You you know, I was just gonna tell you. You
listen to this radio show. You listen to some of
our peers and radio and some of the people that
I won't name them, you know they are if they
were your neighbor, you'd be blessed. If you had to
leave your kids with them, you'd know that, you know,
because you had an emergency.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You'd know that they'd be fine. You know, you'd they'd
probably get a home cooked meal by the time you
got home. Like they're good people. Okay, they're at their
core good people. There are a lot of leftists who
are truly lost and nasty human beings, I'll just put
it that way, a lot of leftists, and it's true
of the politicians as well. And you see this and
you're aware of this perception. There is a difference in
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the view of life. But Clay, we know who Charlie was.
They keep saying Charlie. The other side says that he
was put including unfortunately this this horrific assassin, that Charlie
was spewing hate speech. But what you see actually when
you look at what Charlie said, and beyond that, look
at how his followers act. They act with love and
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within the law, and with consideration and with kindness. And
yet the people that think on the other side that
they're doing some great favor to society by being violent,
not just in this incident, but in many incidents like it,
Antifa and all these others, they think that they are
stopping hate speech, and they never stop to think that
they're the hateful ones, that they are the ones who
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are saying your words upset me, So I will attack you,
I will punch you, I will even kill you. Who's
the one spreading hate? What is the hate that Charlie spreads?
And by the way, I would I would just add
a lot of this comes back to the trans stuff.
That's really where if you push somebody who says that
the right is spewing hate speech Clay, it's overwhelmingly just
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a version of saying you are rasing trans people, you are.
You know, these things go and go together all the time.
But I think that when you if you're talking about hate,
which is the side that is hateful?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I think it couldn't be more clear. Agree with all
of that.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Charlie found his life purpose, He got married, he had kids.
This twenty two year old was looking for his life's
purpose and he found his life's purpose to be killing
Charlie Kirk. How does that happen? Your book is partly
addressing it. I think it speaks to again, the twenty
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seven year law enforcement veteran dad had to turn his son. That.
I would bet this dad poured his heart and soul
into trying to raise as an uplifting, successful part of
the community. I don't know very many parents who do
anything else. Now, you might fail, and we might find
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out that there's something in the background of this kid
that was not ideal that helped to put him on
on this awful path. But you have two young men.
One finds his path and is trying to extend a
hand to everyone else to say, hey, this path works
for me, I think it could work for you too,
And so many young men, in seeing Charlie's path, see
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a path for themselves as well. And then you have
this twenty two year old who, by all intentsive purposes,
appears buck to have been normal for much of his life.
And he gets radicalized to such an extent somewhere that
he's writing anti pro fascist and anti fascist, anti fascist
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and anti anti Nazi comments on bullets that he uses
to incredibly detailed plan the assassination of Charlie Kirk. How
does that happen? How do they get again from the pathways?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And I so in the book Clay, I get into these,
I get into brainwashing. I get into is called menticide.
I get into Pavlovian conditioning. I get into isolation and
how that is used as a tool in this. I
get into fear as a tool, a tool of ideological coercion. Right,
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I mean, these are all different things. I mean, and
again the book's not even out till January, but it's
just this is what my I've been looking at this
because a lot of it was driven by COVID, but
I get into the trans thing as well, and how
people who aren't trans themselves will threaten to kill people
or will kill people even because they have the wrong
idea about trans in you know, quote unquote wrong idea
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that how does someone get to that point? You know,
how is someone so diluted? And this is a huge
problem in our society because these ideas can grow and
can take root to the point where they can actually
cause a societal upheaval. I mean, you saw this in
the Russian Revolution into the Soviets, and you saw this
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in North Korea. And I get into some of this
where actually the crazy ideas are the mandatory ideas, and
the Democrat Party has had some instances where they have
shown us this. COVID was one of the most it
was probably the most powerful instance of it. But also
the same thing with men don't have an advantage over
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women in sports and other ideas like this. Right, you
get into all of this, but it is a process
of radicalization and there is something that we have to
look at here and understand much more, much more deeply,
and in a much more cohesive way. How do we
get people off this path. It's a little bit like
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getting them out of a cult. It's a little bit
like removing them from an ideological ecosystem that is self
reinforcing and actually deteriorating throughout that process.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Because as you say this, what about this young.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Man in his past, in his background would make you
think that this would But I've gone through this clay
with people that were preparing to strap a suicide vest
on and go into the New York City subway system,
or we're planning to buy AK forty sevens and grenades
to go shoot up a you know, a Jewish temple
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in one of the suburbs of New York. I mean,
these people are not leading up to this point. They
aren't necessarily from abusive homes, they're not impoverished.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You know, there hasn't been some.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But the ideas and the idea loop grows, and there
are those who are able to manipulate in this way.
There are those who are able to manufacture these killers through
this process, and we need to take this I mean
we're already taking it seriously, but we need to understand
that there's a tremendous urgency in this country to figure
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out how we handle this because it's going to keep happening,
and it does not have to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
There are places where this does not happen. Our country
is a place where this sort of.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Thing is happening right now, and that means that there
are underlying and foundational issues to be addressed. And I
think that a big part of it is just holding
holding the Democrat Party and the Democrat aligned media accountable
for what they say. When you call someone a fascist
and you say and you mean it, you are saying
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that person is a threat to everyone else, a threat
to all that is good, and violence against them is justified.
China is a communist country. If I call someone a communist,
am I saying we have to go we have to
go murder a billion Chinese people? No, of course not.
It's referring to it as an ideology. Well, when you
call someone a fascist, there's no.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Fascist country out there right now, Clay.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
When you say fascist or Nazi, you are resurrecting something
from the past to justify violence today.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Jasmine Crockett's building on this, just called Trump Hitler today
again on Charlemagne The God Show. And I think when
you specifically analogize Trump to Adolf Hitler, building on what
you are saying, Buck, you are directly saying, go kill
him because we have I mean, this was kind of
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a silly debate that used to go on. But before
the Trump, you ever made baby Hitler. You kill baby
Hitler was kind of a ridiculous sit around the coffee
table or while you're having a beer debate. And when
you call someone who is full grown Hitler, you are
telling people go kill him, which is why you can't
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say that and then tried to immediately condemn. I would
have more respect for Democrats if after they tried to
kill Trump, if somebody had come out and said, I
wish we had better aim he's his, because at least
it would be consistent. You can't condemn violence after inciting it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We already know there are lines.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
If you just called every as a as a group, right,
you just called everyone who disagree with the politically, you
just started asserting that they were child molesters, we would
know that's defamation, that's wrong, that's unethical. You're trying to
say that this person is the worst kind of human
being imaginable, the most vile, the most the most you know,
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lacking and decency imaginable. We would understand, right, everybody would
know if you just go around saying, oh, you're running
against me for this office, you're a child molester, everybody
would know that that is crossing a clear You know
that you're saying this to defame someone, crossing a clear line.
Which of course they've said all kinds of things about Trump.
You don't have to enough said he's a rapist, They've
said everything. But yeah, with this, to call someone a
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Nazi isn't crossing the line. To say that you are
truly a fascist who's going to end the republic and
therefore our country is going to collapse, that is crossing
the line.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
There will not be elections again, which is what they
have argued for years now, a decade that tries a dictator.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Who will people remember because.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was it was very U got to go a
break and we want to take your calls here, so
we'll get to it. But when I did that film appearance,
and it was when the Democrats, I was there to
tell them what was coming, and I did, and it
did happen that way.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But I remember I looked at Bill Maher. I think
it might have been in the post show video they do.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I said, I mean, you know that it's going to
be okay if Trump wins, right, He's going to win,
and everything's going to be fine. And he looked me, right,
and he says, I absolutely do not know that I
think the country might end. Well, that's insane. You have
a problem. You should go seek counseling. Speak to your priests, well,
not for Bill Maher, speak to your therapist, speak to whomever.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're gonna
get to a bunch of your calls, but I wanted
to play this for you because we just referenced it.
Congresswoman Jasmine Clark, one of the dumbest yet somehow most
influential Democrats on the planet. She went on Charlotte and
the Gods Show and she said, I'm not necessarily calling
Trump hitler. Just listen.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
We thought to talk about, like what it means when
you're running for president or you running for one of
these higher offices and you go out there and you
talk about beating people up, you go out there and
you say things like I could shoot somebody in the
middle of the street in New York and I could
still win.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We gotta talk about like that. That is next level me.
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Disagree with you me calling you, you know, I want
to be Hitler. All those things are like not necessarily
saying go out and hurt somebody, But when you're literally
telling people at rallies, yeah, beat them up and that
kind of stuff, like you are promoting like a culture
of violence. So we need to talk about like what
it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I think her job is to say the dumbest things
imaginable so that anything else that a Democrat says, by
comparison seems more reasonable.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Like that's her.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Actual job is to try to open the overton windows
so wide that it's not possible to say something as
stupid as Congresswoman Crockett. Therefore, whatever you say, it's not
as dumb as what she says, and it helps Democrats.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
That may be what they use her as is like
the battering ram of stupidity that opens the door for
everything else. But to not understand the basic logic of
the argument you just made there of Hey, we've got
to watch basically the language that we're using. I'm not
necessarily telling people to kill Hitler, I mean they are.
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I think the easiest way to.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Tell you why choose Hitler. If you don't want violence
against the person. You know what I'm saying. There's a
lot of people you could point out in history who
were you could just point out to bad previous president.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Anyway, go ahead, but yeah, no, we're going to go
to calls. But I mean, I do think what you've
got here is clear incitement. And then when you incite
the action for which you are clearly inciting, when it occurs,
you say, oh, well, we condemn this. You can't light
the fire, and then say, boy, I wish this house
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wasn't burning down. I condemned fire. That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I'm hearing el Rushbo right now talking about the drive bys.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
This is what they do.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
They just spray destruction and bedlam and just move on
past and pretend like nothing happened, pretend like they had
no part in it, and they are neck deep and
all this stuff we're talking about, All right, calls. We
want to do it because we got let's so many
people want to weigh in. So you picked the top
of the list, mister Clay.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Jem in Denver. I believe you say, Jim, you were
scheduled to go to the next one of the next
stops on Charlie Kirk's tour, which got for.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
Us correct up at Colorado State University. So with this
shooter's father being a police officer and thinking that he
was brought up the right way by a police officer,
I would hope his father would encourage him to cooperate
in every way possible with the police to have a
better understanding of the Antifa tights that ruined his mind
(37:35):
and caused him to do this evil act.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Amen Buck, I think one of the outcomes of this
needs to be if we haven't already done it, and
maybe it's underway, but I haven't seen a lot of
attention on it into the root, stem and branch of
Antifa in a way that directly goes to their organizational structure.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I just I want to get to these other calls.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I just want to point out because this is bringing
back to I saw and out with Antifa in the
earliest days, right going back over a decade now as
a movement in this country, and they there were these
open debates that would happen or discussions I should say,
not debates about because right wingers are Nazis and because
punching Nazis is okay, isn't it therefore okay to punch
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right wingers? This was this was a thing that they
would they would talk about openly. And and also the
speech equals violence paradigm or the speech equals violence framework
that they would use. They would say, well, because what
you say is as bad as violence, my violence against
your speech is justified, even though I'm the first one
(38:38):
to commit violence. I know that's dizzying, and that's sort
of this self looking ice cream cone of logic, but
that is actually this is widespread among the antiphotypes.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
John and Texas. What's going on? John?
Speaker 12 (38:52):
We called? And it's rough days these days. But when
theymed to study our more people need to study the history.
Hitler and the Nazis originated from the National Socialist Party Socialist.
So I don't know why people can't look up and say, well,
that is where the left is coming from. And they
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are the ones that are actually the Nazis, and then
the socialists generally speaking, the ones that are on top,
the leaders, They are the ones that make the money.
They are the ones that get paid. Well, AOC's Bernie.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That thing.
Speaker 12 (39:29):
Stacey Abrams looked up and she got a million, a
billion dollars to some group she headed up and they
pass out the money to the sales like that.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
But I appreciate the call John. I think with John's
hitting on Buck, a lot of times we talk about
political spectrums, I think it's honestly more accurate sometimes to
call it a political circle, because both logical extensions end
in a form of totalitarianism. Whether it's coming from the
left or the right, it is a complete control and
eradication of enemy, and that is I think where you
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become susceptible to this. I'd also point out variety of
opinion inside of party basically does not exist on the
left now, and it is a strength of a political
party to have multiple different competing perspectives because it limits totalitarianism.
There's actually a wide variety of reasons people support the
Republican Party, the Democrat Party that's become increasingly less so.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
He's unfortunately become Trump de range. But Jonah Goldberg wrote
a very good book Liberal Fascism almost twenty years ago
now Clay, that addresses exactly this, which is that the
liberal in this country or the leftist is a well,
that socialism is of the left and fascism is of
the left. And this is what people don't really under
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that that you know, there's a oh the right, right wing,
right wing totalitarian is fascism, no fascism and communism and
this we saw this play out in pre world work
through Germany. We're fighting over the same or a lot
of the same recruits and the same people, and that's
why there was violence against them. But they were both collectivists.
(41:10):
It just one was a globalist collectivist in the case
of the Soviet uh, the Soviet model, whereas there was
a nationalist collectivist in the case of the fascists. Right,
but there's a lot of uh and yeah, national socialists
obviously what the Nazi Party actually was. There's a reason
for why they called themselves that.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Tara in North Carolina, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Tara?
Speaker 13 (41:30):
Hey there, thank you. We led working on your show.
I had my other niece here with me. Her name
is Abby, and well.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Hi, Abby, we appreciate you being a part of the show.
Speaker 13 (41:43):
Well, we were calling in because you know, earlier in
the conversation today, you know, you were talking about what
makes the youth want to go and do these things
and if they grow up in a family that you know,
is considered a decent traditional family. And uh, I have
another niece and she's a sixteen also, and we don't
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really know what happened to send her to the liberal side,
and we we about talk about it every day, and
so that's why I was calling in to just say,
it kind of happens before your eyes. It's like, over
the past year, she just going, you know, to be
so liberal, and it's just almost scary.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I think this is one of the huge fears for
families out there, Buck, I mean, and I think every
family out there has someone they can point to that
has been lost to a in some way life that
is the opposite of how they were raised.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I think that there are forms of mental illness that
make people much more likely to become leftists. They're much
more susceptible to the ideology of the left because of
challenges that they have in their mind that that pre
that are sort of pre existing from the indoctrination phase
that's on component of this. I think that you'll increasingly
(43:02):
see that there are differences in just brain, you know,
if you were to do it like a functional MRI,
a functional MRI, I think that there are differences in
the way that people on the herd left their brains
fire than other people.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
This is my belief a lot.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
There's a lot of early data that supports this kind
of stuff. You know, you can actually see like bipolarity
on a functional MRI. You can you know, an fMRI,
you can see extreme mental illness. It changes the way
that the brain is actually firing in certain ways. And
I think that leftism is something that you if you
(43:37):
tried to, I think you'd be able to start to
map it out more than the brain because it is irrational.
It does not it does not make sense to Clay
to compare Trump to Hitler. Trump isn't Trump hasn't killed
anybody in this country.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
He's actually doing great things.
Speaker 14 (43:50):
Hitler tried to take over the entire world and murdered
millions and millions of people, eleven million of the death Camp,
six million.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Jews, Like, how are you comparing these things?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
This is like saying a mouse is a elephant, and
we're all supposed to look at you and say, yeah,
those two things are similar.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
They are not.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Or a man as a woman.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
And I think it's intentional. I think they know that
if they can get you to lie about objective biological
reality takes you down to lie about everything.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well, this is a going back to my book Manufacturing Collusion.
This is why in totalitarianism it's so important that you
have to be a part of the lie clay. There
was something that the Nazis used to enforce called physionomic insubordination,
which is a very complex way of saying, if you
don't seem enthusiastic enough, you know, making the hand gestures
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and the you know, they they would come over and
and you could get in a lot of trouble. You
you know, you could disappear if you're if you made
the wrong face. You know, it'd be like if somebody
walked around during the national anthem and you know you
you didn't look patriotic enough. That was something the Nazis
in physionomic insubordination. You're your body slouched, you looked unhappy
(45:02):
while you were chanting the mandatory slogans.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
This is why, I mean it still exists in North Korea.
This is why when you have North Korean celebratory events
in totalitarian governments, they are exaggerating their enthusiasm for fear
of potentially being severely consequented if they engage in behavior
that doesn't suggest that they are fans of the deer leader.
(45:28):
This is why you have to have the painting or sorry,
the photograph of in a prominent place of Kim Jong
un out side of your home.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
And if you and if it's damaged, you can be
you can be sent to the camps, or you can
even be executed. That photo is more important in North
Korea than your own family. And that is that is
by law there, not that there's really law, but by
whatever you want to call it, the writ of the
of the totalitarian system that they have. We got more call,
you know, Claid, you want to want to we do
(45:57):
a lovely read here and we'll take some more calls
the other side because we've got every line lit still.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, no doubt, we'll continue to take your calls. We
want you to be able to react. It's been a
tough week for many of us, all of us really
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Speaker 1 (48:44):
All right, welcome back in everybody to Clay and Buck
let's take a whole bunch of calls and talkbacks here
as we go off into the weekend. This is like
our our sit down to be with each other and
just deal with this together, this situation this week. Remember
we were even before this horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk,
(49:06):
the country was reeling from the footage of.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Irena Zerutzka brutally murdered.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
So it's been a really and that footage, the full
footage of that came out.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I mean, it has been a really tough week.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
And so if you're feeling that, I'm sure almost I'm
sure all of you are.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
You're You're not alone at all. We're all just trying.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
To deal with this and and and push through and
and say prayers and hold loved ones close and keep
keep moving because that's all we can do. Keep moving,
keep moving forward, stay in the fight. Uh, let's see
we have where the who are the callers currently? Guys,
because we've got so many of these things coming in,
I K. Clay, do you see who's up right now
on the lines?
Speaker 5 (49:48):
Do we have we got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's
hit some of these talkbacks. Ee, what you got for us?
Speaker 7 (49:55):
My name is Joe. I'm from Mississippi. I'm a truck
driver Buck. I wanted to come on what you said.
I think death is too good for this young man.
I think he needs to go to Gimo, and I
think that's where it needs to be. I don't think
he needs to die. I think he needs to live
miserable life for what he did to us.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well, we can get into a whole death penalty. I
appreciate your perspective, and a lot of people will share
that perspective. I think a lot of people share my perspective,
which is that there's ever a case for a death penalty,
this would be very high.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
On the list.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
And this gets into some deep philosophical Should the state
be involved in killing anybody? That's one part of this.
Why should the taxpayer have to spend It'll be hundreds
of thousands, maybe millions of dollars to support this individual
health care, food, and everything else for the next he's
twenty to twenty two years old.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
It could be a lot for eighty years.
Speaker 5 (50:51):
And also the expense of getting someone to the point
of being executed. Not only does it take a decade
or more, probably maybe twenty years in order to work
its way through the entire criminal justice system, but it
still might not happen. So that's the challenge. John by
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the Way, Goose Creek, South Carolina News Radio ninety four
point three.
Speaker 15 (51:17):
JJ, I am super angry right now, like just epically,
just disgusted with I'm a black man, and all I
see is blacks going all over place praising and celebrating
and putting down this man for being assassinated when they
don't even have a clue what he said as a
(51:40):
black man. What am I supposed to do as a
conservative black man? How am I supposed to do it?
I wash my hands of them.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
I appreciate. Look, we start off the show by saying,
I have a family member who posted on Facebook that
he was glad that Charlie Kirk was murdered. I think that, unfortunately,
we've all had our eyes opened to how awful many
(52:09):
of the people that surround us can be. When it
comes to this. What I would say is the advice
that I give you all the time, and this is
honestly something that Charlie has to do. Explain why you
believe that this person is awful most of the time.
Occasionally you'll see me do this on social media, so
(52:29):
people say, oh, Klay Travis, you're racist or homophobic or
transphobic or whatever else. And I'll just say, Okay, I've
been doing media twenty years. Please share what I have
done that is any of those things in your mind.
They never can. I think a lot of people on
the left they want to brand us as controversial. You
(52:52):
read anything that's been written about me Buck for twenty years,
I'm always controversial, and I you caunt. Look. I understand
that there are contras, virtual opinions. I don't actually think
I have very many, and it's certainly not the number
one adjective that I would choose to describe me.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Well, I mean, I have heard your hate speech about
pistachio ice cream more than once.
Speaker 5 (53:12):
To be fair, Well, this is why radio is a
great for him, because we have the luxury of talking
to this audience all over the country every day and
over time, for better or worse. It's impossible to be
an actor and do radio. You reveal your inner soul
in your essence for good or ill and h And
(53:32):
that is why I think it's so hard to attack
people who are on radio, because people are like, well,
I listen to them for three hours every day, like
that's not fair. I mean, you can disagree, but my
point on that would be for that caller. I actually
think pushing back and saying with people that you know, hey,
why do you think that, and maybe share something that
(53:52):
you like that that person said, and say hey, I
think you'd actually agree with him here if you listened.
I think that's helpful.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Just a fun radio And I've I've had a few
people come up by the way here I'm in I'm
in Las Vegas, and I've had a few people come
up and say, you know, love the show, which is
always always so nice.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
They're they're visiting, right, I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
I don't think their native Las Vegas, las Vegans lost
Las Vegans.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
What do we what do we call the.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Las Vegas s e ends. That's a tough word too.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
I think it's Las Vegans, I would assume.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
But like I heard Spencer Cox today say utahns and
that's a pretty tough word to say. Yeah, yeah, he
doesn't flow Tennessee and where I am flows Floridian. Where
you are, that's a relatively easy one. It flows.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
So but you see these individuals and it's funny though,
because people who don't. There are people they listen on
talk radio and many of them listen to Rush and
they were Rush babies and so this this is uh,
the audio water in which they have been swimming for
decades in many cases. But it's funny to me when
people say, oh wow, you know, if they've heard us
for the first time or if they're very recent. I've
(54:54):
had people say, so who rights like who writes all
the stuff? You guys say?
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I always find that to be the highest compliment.
Speaker 8 (55:02):
I'm like, you think we're reading this, you think you
think someone's telling us what to say.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
I was like, Clay and I sit down.
Speaker 14 (55:07):
We basically for about sixty seconds before we go in
the air top story, top story, Okay, anything else, okay,
boom go, and then it is just you are watching.
It's like, you know, because we read in all morning
and we're reading the same stories, we're reading the same
data and information, and we're texting back and forth to
share that. But the actual formation of the show is
(55:28):
about sixty seconds of you good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
There we go. Yeah, Clay's holding up his notepad, which,
by the way, I don't know what language that is.
Speaker 14 (55:35):
I don't think it's English, but it's something he's gott
Are you.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Writing in cyrillic? Are you some kind of a Russian agent?
What is that?
Speaker 5 (55:41):
I this is? I mean, for those of you watching
on YouTube right now, I don't think there's anything particularly
controversial or not supposed to be public on this notepad.
I sit with a yellow legal pad. I write down
the live reads, the advertisements that we have to do
in the segment that we have to do it, and
then like four or five things that I think are
significant for the day, just to remind myself, Hey, hit this,
(56:02):
make sure we touch on that. That's it. So, yeah,
there is no teleprompter. You know, this is not television.
We're not putting on makeup. God knows, if you watch
us on video, there is a There isn't some high
wire act other than just trying to sit down for
three hours and be as honest with all of you
as we possibly can be. Greg and Colorado, what you
(56:24):
got for us?
Speaker 9 (56:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (56:28):
I just had a couple points. You know, I know
lots of us do no liberals, and we work with
them every day and we see the hate that at
least half of them are spreading. They're glorifying and celebrating
the death of a beautiful person and just because of
his views. And basically, if they are celebrating his death,
(56:50):
they would do the same thing with ours. I mean,
they would celebrate us our death. They would wish death
upon us because we have the same views. And then
one more quick point, when you see their post online,
I put two. I was trying to message you, guys.
I put them on your Facebook page and a message.
If you see them posting their glorification and celebrating of
(57:12):
his death, you put bring that to people's attention. I
had one there's a lady who was saying she was
glad that he's dead because he supported Trump and here's
a fascist. And then she said the president is next
and we need to spread those and.
Speaker 5 (57:28):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
And I would say, because some of you have also
been emailing us, and I want to always be clear
when we ask you for emails and talkbacks, we're reading
all of it throughout the show, and that's one of
the ways that we can keep a real close pulse
on what's going on with you. We don't we can't
get to all of them on the air obviously, but uh,
it is something that we're constantly seeing and reading, and
(57:55):
even if so when you send it a talkback, we
get the transcript of it, and Clay and I see
all of the transcripts, and if you send us an email,
obviously we.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Read and see all of your emails.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
So don't think that because we don't read on the air,
you're not being heard.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
In a sense.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
And obviously we get to as many of the live
calls as we can too, that's a little different because
that has to be live and on the show. I
would say this though, because we've gotten some emails, Clay
where people say, well, you know, this isn't the Charlie situation.
Isn't surprising to them, meaning you know, the left's reaction
to it, because of how some people reacted when Rush past. Yeah,
(58:30):
and here's how I would just yes, that isn't that
that I totally see that observation. And for so many
of us two who have had I mean, I had
a family member die of you know, someone I was
very close to dive cancer, and it's so painful and
it's just such a tragic and human thing that really
(58:53):
all of us are going to know someone dies of cancer.
So for someone not to have some sympathy or a
lot of sympathy, but you know, at least some sympathy
or Rush Limbaugh as a human being shows you how
deprave their soul is or lack of a soul that
they have. Very similar with Charlie. But I would say
this Rush got to be Rush, and he got you know,
(59:13):
he got to do He got to be the greatest
on radio of all time. He got to live into
his into his phase of life where he could look
back on all that tremendous accomplishment. Something that's particularly particularly
tragic about this as Charlie was thirty one years old
and just getting going. You know, Rush had Rush had
(59:34):
saved the country perhaps right. I mean you look back,
look at what Rush did. He at least had the
time to do it. And it wasn't an assassin's bullet.
It was cancer. Tragic but different. But the response to
all of you who are write again, yes, of course
there were psychos out there who were celebrating Rush Limbaugh.
A husband, a great American, a great boss, a great person.
(59:57):
They were, and it just shows I can tell you
Clayton or I have ever celebrated the death of any
American you know in any way like this and never
would And you all know that because you listen to
us every day and you know how we are, you
know how we think, and you are the same way.
Speaker 12 (01:00:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
This is why I was saying, we are the people
listen to us on radio. Clay, you know how you
say about SEC football. I feel that way about ever.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I know you do too. Everyone listens to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Us on radio, they're good people because you're choosing to
spend time surrounded by good and decent and true thoughts.
Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
I told my boys, I hate to have to say this.
If something happens to me, don't go on social media. Yeah,
I mean I think that you know, face to face conversations,
listen to the people that are important in your life.
And your boy's gonna get older. You're hopefully gonna have
(01:00:50):
multiple kids, buck at some point you're gonna have to
sit down with them. And I've had to do this
for years, especially with the rise of social media. Say, hey,
who do you think knows Dad better? People getting on
social media and talking about me or you who have
lived in a house with me your whole life. I
think it's very illuminating. For kids out there in that scenario.
(01:01:10):
Judge people by what you see them do and how
you know them. Don't judge people by what other people
who don't know them at all say, right, And I
think that's unfortunate aspect of social media.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I would add Clay that in the case of Charlie
Kirk and also in the case of Rush Limbaugh, that
the satanic would dance on their graves is actually one
of the clearest symbols indicators of the good that they
stood for, the righteousness that they were fighting for, the
(01:01:47):
impact that they had. That the worst among us would
celebrate them being gone is proof of how important they
were in the fight, how much much they stood on
the front lines, how much they changed lives, how much
they saved lives, how much they saved this republic. And
so there is definitely crossover there as well.
Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Sometimes the people who hate you actually show to your
point just how important you were.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Oh, it's a badge of honor. I mean, the worst,
most psychotic, most destructive people in America hated Rush Limbaugh
just like they hated Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
It's the truth, though, the absolute worst people.
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Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Klay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show. I want to jump right to it.
The news that many of you may have seen. We
want to bring you up to speed with all of
the latest on it. Charlie Kirk's assassin has been caught,
turned himself in in fact, and we will give you
more of those details, but the alleged assassin has been
(00:22):
taken into custody. We'll walk you through the timeline this
morning of how that went, some updates on law enforcement's
role in this, the family of the shooters role in this,
and the latest on who the shooter was, the profile,
the ideology behind it, and then also I think we're
going to spend a portion of the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well. First off, of course.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Continue to commemorate our friend Charlie Kirk and the incredible
work that he did. And I think, Clay, there was
never a doubt as soon as we got the horrible
news and we're able to process what had happened, there
was never a doubt that Charlie legacy, the movement, the organization,
and what he stood for would not only continue on,
(01:08):
but I think there is a turning point toward standing
for these principles and standing for this free speech and
elevated I mean, just going forward, everybody on the right,
everybody who believes in the Constitution, everybody believes in the
First Amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It feels like we must stand.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
With this legacy of Charlie Kirk, his work, what he did,
what he stood for. We also do need to address
the widespread. Widespread is the only I think way you
could describe it. It is not fringe, It is not
on the edges, on the margins. The widespread, horrific response
(01:47):
to this assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk from elements
of the left. People are getting fired left and right,
which they deserve. But it's just astonishing because that shows
you how utterly deranged in their politics so many everyday Americans,
as well as pundits and people with followings, and so
(02:09):
we'll get into all of this, but first, Clay, let's
just go through the news events this morning as they happened.
First off, President Trump was sitting on the couch at
Fox and Friends, and he gave a pretty good indication
of what was to come.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Play clip one.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Any updates on the suspect.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, can I always say I think just to protect
us all and so Fox doesn't get sued, I think
we all don't get sued and everything else. But I
think with a high degree of certainty, we have him
in custody. In custody. Everyone did a great job. We
worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a
(02:50):
great job.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That was then confirmed later by Governor Spencer Cox of Utah.
This has cut eight saying that they do in fact
have Charlie Kirk's murderer of the assassin was in cost
that he play it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had
confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office
and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was
(03:31):
also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage
from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus
in a great Dodge challenger at approximately eight twenty nine
am on September tenth, in which he is observed on
video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,
(03:53):
a black hat with a white logo, and light colored shoes.
When encountered in person by investigators in Washington on September
twelfth in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in
consistent clothing with those surveillance images.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But Clay, the investigation continues about what was said by
him online, did he have any co conspirators. There's a
lot still to unpack. But the assassin is in custody
as we speak to you now, thankfully no doubt.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And we're getting more and more information about the assassin,
and we try to avoid giving a lot. I try
to say, avoid giving names. I understand sometimes we play
media coverage where they do it. Here are some of
the identifying details that I think are starting to be revealed.
Twenty two years old was to a large degree turned
in by his dad, who was a twenty seven year
(04:46):
law enforcement veteran. The dad, I'm seeing reports of we
talked about this that there's one hundred thousand dollars reward.
The dad is saying, I'm not taking the reward. But
the question that is out out there. This is a
kid grew up in a Utah home and had a
completely normal upbringing, evidently made good grades in school, did
(05:11):
well on standardized test and something, and I know this
is part of what your book is about. Buck. Something
radicalized him. Something turned him from a kid that was
not particularly political according to his parents and those around him,
to expressing that he hated Charlie Kirk and being willing
(05:35):
to kill Charlie Kirk. Plan it all out, all the details,
he changed clothes. Again, if you miss the press conference,
it feels very open and shutcase his motivation. I'm not
talking about what his motivation was because there'll probably be
articles where they say in the New York Times we
may never know why he did this. There were Antifa
(05:58):
and anti knots, the engravings on the shell casings that
he was using to kill Charlie Kirk. So he hated
Charlie Kirk. He was a far left ideologue, committed to
Antifa and anti Nazi ideology, according to the engravings on
the bullets themselves, So we know what his motivation was.
(06:22):
To me, Buck, the story now is how how did
a kid in a normal middle class, upbringing, nuclear family.
How did he get radicalized to the point where he
was willing, by the age of twenty two, to take
a rifle and go murder someone that he had decided
(06:42):
he hated because of Charlie Kirk, this because of his
political beliefs. How did that happen? And relatively short period
of time, because evidently this kid did well in high school,
made good grades, wasn't political to suddenly sitting down at
the family table screaming slogan about hating Charlie Kirk and
then his own dad has to turn him in. Yeah,
(07:05):
it's it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I can tell you from the extensive studies that have
been done and that were very much a part of
my daily life in the GWATT the Global War on Terror,
anti gi hottist days, that poverty, things like that, they
have really no bearing on radicalization and in fact, a
lot of the worst ideological terrorists. This guy's a terrorist.
(07:30):
I mean, this is will use the term assassin is accurate.
Of course, the term terrorist is also accurate. This was
violence to a political end. But this is someone who
clearly when he was hearing all of the rhetoric about
how Trump is a Nazi. How fascism has descended upon America.
(07:51):
We could sit here and we will go through some
of where these messages and where how this narrative has
been formed, because it is important because I think Clay,
this time more than you know, more than what we've
seen in a lot of other cases. This time is
one where there are random people, random people who are
(08:16):
in a position to say that they have seen someone
in their own life who has celebrated this.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I've never seen anything like this before. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm seeing it all over the place, and that is
like waking up among the enemy a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That is wait a second, hold on a minute here.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know, with Trump, he's the president of the United States,
and the fact that and he and he was fine, right,
he was in a different he was in a different
situation entirely because he walked away with his fist in
the air and he was okay, And people were saying, oh,
I hope they got him. Now, that's heinous, that's heinous, right.
(09:02):
We saw the people that were making those kind of
comments online. I mean, Charlie was we all saw it
on video.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And this guy, wife and kids and.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
All these friends all these people who care about them,
love this person, and the worst thing possible happened. The
worst thing possible in that situation happened, which is that
Charlie's no longer with us. And there are people who
are are gleeful. And I don't mean a few all
over the place, thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands,
(09:38):
maybe millions. I can't give a number other than to
say wading through Blue Sky Clay was like going through
an insane asylum.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Of people who are aware of their actions. Though and
I recognize that, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
They are in the grips of a delusion, but they
are responsible for what they are saying. They're not seeing
pink elephants in the sky. They believe this fascism and
Trump narrative, and it cost our friend Charlie his life,
and and there just needs to be a reckoning.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And also just an examination. I truly believe this, and
I hope I've never challenged or proven wrong in this,
because I hope it never happens. I think if Rachel Maddow,
I'm trying to think of who the equivalent is of
Charlie Kirk on the right, Let's use I'll use Rachel
Maddow as an example. Somebody that's she's.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That they they Clay, I'm not even they got this
is part of this. But the reason I wanted to
jump in on this is just because this is part
of why they're so angry, because they're so used to
having control of youth. They have nobody that's even in
the in the stratosphere of the infuence.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I'm just saying, Rachel Maddowe speaks.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Of Rachel Maddo is like an old lady. Now, I
mean she's our age, that's a totally different thing.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
But if she got shot on campus, I think you
and I and the Bass Majory of people out there
would say this is awful, this is unacceptable. I don't
think there would be an outpouring of people on the
right saying she got what she deserved or I'm happy
that this has occurred. This is not and I want
(11:16):
to say this too, this is not some fringe element
of the Democrat Party that is celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.
This is a solid twenty five or thirty percent at
least of their base celebrating the death of someone who
was killed because of his political belief.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, let's let's unpack what they're what the story is
that they tell themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How do they get to this delusion?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And yeah, McClay mentioned this, and I appreciate you brought
up this is actually the title. This is the in
the title manufacturing Delusions. This is what my book was about.
This is what it's about. Radicalization of the masses of
normal people who believe crazy things. How does this There's processes,
there's tactics, there's all these things. In this case, the
storyline that was latched onto by President Biden when he
(12:05):
was president, right by the New York Times editorial page
by the biggest voices, If Trump wins, we won't have
another election. If Trump wins, our democracy is over. The
Republic no longer exists. They're going to put you in camps.
They're Nazis, well, Clay, if you and I were alive
in you know, occupied Holland or something circa nineteen forty four,
(12:31):
nineteen forty three, we would take extreme measures, right, I mean,
if we were truly under a Nazi occupation. Now you
can say that they tell people this as just a
rhetorical flourish, but that's exactly the point, it's irresponsible because
what they are doing is dehumanizing their political opponents in
a way that results in tragedy.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And it's happened again and again and again. This is
not a one off. It's just the most awful recent
one that we have seen.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I think what you started to see was in the
reaction to the United Healthcare CEO's public assassination. They made
his assassin a hero, and you pointed out that they
tried to do it with the Boston terrorists time ago.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Cover Rolling Stone looking as handsome as they could make
him look.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
That was pre social media, So I think the sort
of green shoots of this already existed. I think on
social media they have come into full fruition. And the
problem with this is this kid, I say kid, he's
twenty two. He thinks he's a hero, and a lot
of other people are going to see the way that
he has treated and it's going to embolden others to
(13:42):
go out and try to kill people they disagree with politically.
I'm just telling you that that is it is open season.
Because there hasn't been some massive, some massive response and
outpouring on the left saying this is unacceptable in fact,
the exact opposite. There's a huge outpouring of celebration. People
(14:04):
are risking their jobs to celebrate somebody being assassinated, losing
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
A lot of people you're seeing this, a lot of
people are getting fired. Uh and not from just MSNBC.
Like that guy Doubt, who I can tell you is
a world class I can't say it on the air
without getting in trouble, but a real bad dude.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So no tiers there. He's been a jerk for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But I mean, you know, like vet text down the
street from you, and guys who work in the in
the you know, the local restaurant or in the you
know your family.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You probably have family, may have family that's posting somebody
in your family, extended family, may get on Facebook and
suddenly you see celebrations going on for a murder and
an assassination, and you just think, what world am I
living in? I think that's one that a lot of
us have experienced this week.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, we're gonna take a lot of calls.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Today is a Friday, so make sure you light us
up with those, and please also on the talkbacks, we'll
get to those. We want to have this conversation be
as robust and widespread with all.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Of you as we can.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 5 (16:29):
It has been a heck of a draining, emotional week
for so many of us across the nation. So many
of you want to weigh in, and so for the
next couple of hours legitimately full open forums, talkbacks, calls,
we are going to get as many of you in
(16:50):
as we can as we roll into the weekend. Point
worth discussing. And I was just joking about this off air,
because I do think we need a little bit of
levity in what has been a very dark week. President
Trump woke up this morning after going to the Yankee
game last night and just rode his motorcade over to
(17:10):
the Fox Studios on sixth Avenue and set down on
the Fox and Friends couch and did an hour of
live unscripted television on all subjects under the sun, including
announcing that we had the assassin of Charlie Kirk in custody.
And we just came from a president that basically could
(17:33):
never do any media availabilities on any subject and Trump
just rolled in, set down on the couch, a couch
that I've set on, and guest hosted Fox and Friends
on the weekend and did an hour straight of unscripted television. Buck.
And it wasn't very long ago, about ten days ago,
that everybody decided because he took a weekend off from
doing media, that he was actually dead. And so I
(17:55):
do think a big part of this larger disc gushion
needs to be how many people out there consume audience,
consume media that is consistently wrong about everything, and yet
they keep going back to it over and over and
over again in desperate demand for at some point their
(18:20):
fever dreams of delusion to be certified. And I do
think that factors in here and one thing, Buck, as
we get ready to take, as we get ready to
take some calls here and take some of your talkbacks.
I want all of you to think about this. Buck
has got a book out. Honestly, these are both very
timely books where he tries to get into tell us.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
The name manufacturing delusion, how the left uses brainwashing, indoctrination
and propaganda against you. I just wanted to be manufacturing delusion.
But subtitles apparently are helpful.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
And my book, and that's a very August title. My
book is called Ball, and it's about how Trump, young
men and UH and sports fans saved America. Okay, but
I do think that these are two different sides of
the same coin, much like this assassin is if you
(19:17):
compare his life to Charlie Kirkson. Let me let me
just kind of run through a little bit here. I
feel immense sadness for so many young men in America
because they're for much of history. Whatever you thought of politics,
there was a consistent expectation for men. You got married,
(19:43):
you busted your ass in a job. You had a
job to try to take care of your family and
provide a better life for them going forward.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You might have to go to war, you may not
have to go to get killed.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
We had an exp experience and expectation of manhood that
was universally accepted across the political spectrum. Whatever you think.
In nineteen forty five, a Democrat and a Republican represented
by and large, there was an understanding of what manhood
was and what it represented. I think so many young
(20:22):
men in the wake of the me too and in
the toxic universe of this woke culture that has tried
to say manhood itself is toxic. The absence and continued
decline of religion, which helped to frankly allow the foundational
elements of the family, the nuclear family manhood. I think
(20:43):
there is a desperate yearning for meaning and I think
Charlie Kirk found it. Whatever you think about him, I
think he found a foundational core tenet of life that
led him in a productive way to get married, to
have two kids, to try to communicate to these lost
young men, a pathway to what he thought would be
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a better life for them.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
One thing that sorry, yes, one thing I was going
to say, Clay, That is so important when you look
at the competing narratives here about Charlie. There's our narrative,
which is rooted in reality of a man who did
it the right way, was an inspiration, was kind, reliable,
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a father, all the things that we have said. So
I want to know you know how we feel about Charlie.
But what you will hear from a lot of people
on the left, who, of course don't know Charlie. And
this is always another thing, you know. I know this
a little bit of a digression. I know a lot
of people in media on the right, and I know
a lot of people on meeting the left, and the
people on the right are almost always better people. I'm
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just telling you the truth, okay. I mean as people.
I'm not talking about their talent. I'm not talking about
their paycheck or you know, their ratings or whatever.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
But as humans.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
You you know, I was just gonna tell you. You
listen to this radio show. You listen to some of
our peers and radio and some of the people that
I won't name them, you know they are if they
were your neighbor, you'd be blessed. If you had to
leave your kids with them, you'd know that, you know,
because you had an emergency.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You'd know that they'd be fine. You know, you'd they'd
probably get a home cooked meal by the time you
got home. Like they're good people. Okay, they're at their
core good people. There are a lot of leftists who
are truly lost and nasty human beings, I'll just put
it that way, a lot of leftists, and it's true
of the politicians as well. And you see this and
you're aware of this perception. There is a difference in
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the view of life. But Clay, we know who Charlie was.
They keep saying Charlie. The other side says that he
was put including unfortunately this this horrific assassin, that Charlie
was spewing hate speech. But what you see actually when
you look at what Charlie said, and beyond that, look
at how his followers act. They act with love and
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within the law, and with consideration and with kindness. And
yet the people that think on the other side that
they're doing some great favor to society by being violent,
not just in this incident, but in many incidents like it,
Antifa and all these others, they think that they are
stopping hate speech, and they never stop to think that
they're the hateful ones, that they are the ones who
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are saying your words upset me, So I will attack you,
I will punch you, I will even kill you. Who's
the one spreading hate? What is the hate that Charlie spreads?
And by the way, I would I would just add
a lot of this comes back to the trans stuff.
That's really where if you push somebody who says that
the right is spewing hate speech Clay, it's overwhelmingly just
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a version of saying you are rasing trans people, you are.
You know, these things go and go together all the time.
But I think that when you if you're talking about hate,
which is the side that is hateful?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I think it couldn't be more clear. Agree with all
of that.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Charlie found his life purpose, He got married, he had kids.
This twenty two year old was looking for his life's
purpose and he found his life's purpose to be killing
Charlie Kirk. How does that happen? Your book is partly
addressing it. I think it speaks to again, the twenty
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seven year law enforcement veteran dad had to turn his son. That.
I would bet this dad poured his heart and soul
into trying to raise as an uplifting, successful part of
the community. I don't know very many parents who do
anything else. Now, you might fail, and we might find
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out that there's something in the background of this kid
that was not ideal that helped to put him on
on this awful path. But you have two young men.
One finds his path and is trying to extend a
hand to everyone else to say, hey, this path works
for me, I think it could work for you too,
And so many young men, in seeing Charlie's path, see
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a path for themselves as well. And then you have
this twenty two year old who, by all intentsive purposes,
appears buck to have been normal for much of his life.
And he gets radicalized to such an extent somewhere that
he's writing anti pro fascist and anti fascist, anti fascist
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and anti anti Nazi comments on bullets that he uses
to incredibly detailed plan the assassination of Charlie Kirk. How
does that happen? How do they get again from the pathways?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And I so in the book Clay, I get into these,
I get into brainwashing. I get into is called menticide.
I get into Pavlovian conditioning. I get into isolation and
how that is used as a tool in this. I
get into fear as a tool, a tool of ideological coercion. Right,
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I mean, these are all different things. I mean, and
again the book's not even out till January, but it's
just this is what my I've been looking at this
because a lot of it was driven by COVID, but
I get into the trans thing as well, and how
people who aren't trans themselves will threaten to kill people
or will kill people even because they have the wrong
idea about trans in you know, quote unquote wrong idea
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that how does someone get to that point? You know,
how is someone so diluted? And this is a huge
problem in our society because these ideas can grow and
can take root to the point where they can actually
cause a societal upheaval. I mean, you saw this in
the Russian Revolution into the Soviets, and you saw this
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in North Korea. And I get into some of this
where actually the crazy ideas are the mandatory ideas, and
the Democrat Party has had some instances where they have
shown us this. COVID was one of the most it
was probably the most powerful instance of it. But also
the same thing with men don't have an advantage over
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women in sports and other ideas like this. Right, you
get into all of this, but it is a process
of radicalization and there is something that we have to
look at here and understand much more, much more deeply,
and in a much more cohesive way. How do we
get people off this path. It's a little bit like
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getting them out of a cult. It's a little bit
like removing them from an ideological ecosystem that is self
reinforcing and actually deteriorating throughout that process.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Because as you say this, what about this young.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Man in his past, in his background would make you
think that this would But I've gone through this clay
with people that were preparing to strap a suicide vest
on and go into the New York City subway system,
or we're planning to buy AK forty sevens and grenades
to go shoot up a you know, a Jewish temple
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in one of the suburbs of New York. I mean,
these people are not leading up to this point. They
aren't necessarily from abusive homes, they're not impoverished.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You know, there hasn't been some.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But the ideas and the idea loop grows, and there
are those who are able to manipulate in this way.
There are those who are able to manufacture these killers through
this process, and we need to take this I mean
we're already taking it seriously, but we need to understand
that there's a tremendous urgency in this country to figure
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out how we handle this because it's going to keep happening,
and it does not have to happen.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
There are places where this does not happen. Our country
is a place where this sort of.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Thing is happening right now, and that means that there
are underlying and foundational issues to be addressed. And I
think that a big part of it is just holding
holding the Democrat Party and the Democrat aligned media accountable
for what they say. When you call someone a fascist
and you say and you mean it, you are saying
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that person is a threat to everyone else, a threat
to all that is good, and violence against them is justified.
China is a communist country. If I call someone a communist,
am I saying we have to go we have to
go murder a billion Chinese people? No, of course not.
It's referring to it as an ideology. Well, when you
call someone a fascist, there's no.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Fascist country out there right now, Clay.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
When you say fascist or Nazi, you are resurrecting something
from the past to justify violence today.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Jasmine Crockett's building on this, just called Trump Hitler today
again on Charlemagne The God Show. And I think when
you specifically analogize Trump to Adolf Hitler, building on what
you are saying, Buck, you are directly saying, go kill
him because we have I mean, this was kind of
(30:14):
a silly debate that used to go on. But before
the Trump, you ever made baby Hitler. You kill baby
Hitler was kind of a ridiculous sit around the coffee
table or while you're having a beer debate. And when
you call someone who is full grown Hitler, you are
telling people go kill him, which is why you can't
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say that and then tried to immediately condemn. I would
have more respect for Democrats if after they tried to
kill Trump, if somebody had come out and said, I
wish we had better aim he's his, because at least
it would be consistent. You can't condemn violence after inciting it.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We already know there are lines.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
If you just called every as a as a group, right,
you just called everyone who disagree with the politically, you
just started asserting that they were child molesters, we would
know that's defamation, that's wrong, that's unethical. You're trying to
say that this person is the worst kind of human
being imaginable, the most vile, the most the most you know,
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lacking and decency imaginable. We would understand, right, everybody would
know if you just go around saying, oh, you're running
against me for this office, you're a child molester, everybody
would know that that is crossing a clear You know
that you're saying this to defame someone, crossing a clear line.
Which of course they've said all kinds of things about Trump.
You don't have to enough said he's a rapist, They've
said everything. But yeah, with this, to call someone a
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Nazi isn't crossing the line. To say that you are
truly a fascist who's going to end the republic and
therefore our country is going to collapse, that is crossing
the line.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
There will not be elections again, which is what they
have argued for years now, a decade that tries a dictator.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Who will people remember because.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was it was very U got to go a
break and we want to take your calls here, so
we'll get to it. But when I did that film appearance,
and it was when the Democrats, I was there to
tell them what was coming, and I did, and it
did happen that way.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But I remember I looked at Bill Maher. I think
it might have been in the post show video they do.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I said, I mean, you know that it's going to
be okay if Trump wins, right, He's going to win,
and everything's going to be fine. And he looked me, right,
and he says, I absolutely do not know that I
think the country might end. Well, that's insane. You have
a problem. You should go seek counseling. Speak to your priests, well,
not for Bill Maher, speak to your therapist, speak to whomever.
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Speaker 5 (34:22):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're gonna
get to a bunch of your calls, but I wanted
to play this for you because we just referenced it.
Congresswoman Jasmine Clark, one of the dumbest yet somehow most
influential Democrats on the planet. She went on Charlotte and
the Gods Show and she said, I'm not necessarily calling
Trump hitler. Just listen.
Speaker 10 (34:43):
We thought to talk about, like what it means when
you're running for president or you running for one of
these higher offices and you go out there and you
talk about beating people up, you go out there and
you say things like I could shoot somebody in the
middle of the street in New York and I could
still win.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We gotta talk about like that. That is next level me.
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Disagree with you me calling you, you know, I want
to be Hitler. All those things are like not necessarily
saying go out and hurt somebody, But when you're literally
telling people at rallies, yeah, beat them up and that
kind of stuff, like you are promoting like a culture
of violence. So we need to talk about like what
it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I think her job is to say the dumbest things
imaginable so that anything else that a Democrat says, by
comparison seems more reasonable.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Like that's her.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Actual job is to try to open the overton windows
so wide that it's not possible to say something as
stupid as Congresswoman Crockett. Therefore, whatever you say, it's not
as dumb as what she says, and it helps Democrats.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
That may be what they use her as is like
the battering ram of stupidity that opens the door for
everything else. But to not understand the basic logic of
the argument you just made there of Hey, we've got
to watch basically the language that we're using. I'm not
necessarily telling people to kill Hitler, I mean they are.
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I think the easiest way to.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Tell you why choose Hitler. If you don't want violence
against the person. You know what I'm saying. There's a
lot of people you could point out in history who
were you could just point out to bad previous president.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Anyway, go ahead, but yeah, no, we're going to go
to calls. But I mean, I do think what you've
got here is clear incitement. And then when you incite
the action for which you are clearly inciting, when it occurs,
you say, oh, well, we condemn this. You can't light
the fire, and then say, boy, I wish this house
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wasn't burning down. I condemned fire. That's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I'm hearing el Rushbo right now talking about the drive bys.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
This is what they do.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
They just spray destruction and bedlam and just move on
past and pretend like nothing happened, pretend like they had
no part in it, and they are neck deep and
all this stuff we're talking about, All right, calls. We
want to do it because we got let's so many
people want to weigh in. So you picked the top
of the list, mister Clay.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Jem in Denver. I believe you say, Jim, you were
scheduled to go to the next one of the next
stops on Charlie Kirk's tour, which got for.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
Us correct up at Colorado State University. So with this
shooter's father being a police officer and thinking that he
was brought up the right way by a police officer,
I would hope his father would encourage him to cooperate
in every way possible with the police to have a
better understanding of the Antifa tights that ruined his mind
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and caused him to do this evil act.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Amen Buck, I think one of the outcomes of this
needs to be if we haven't already done it, and
maybe it's underway, but I haven't seen a lot of
attention on it into the root, stem and branch of
Antifa in a way that directly goes to their organizational structure.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I just I want to get to these other calls.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I just want to point out because this is bringing
back to I saw and out with Antifa in the
earliest days, right going back over a decade now as
a movement in this country, and they there were these
open debates that would happen or discussions I should say,
not debates about because right wingers are Nazis and because
punching Nazis is okay, isn't it therefore okay to punch
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right wingers? This was this was a thing that they
would they would talk about openly. And and also the
speech equals violence paradigm or the speech equals violence framework
that they would use. They would say, well, because what
you say is as bad as violence, my violence against
your speech is justified, even though I'm the first one
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to commit violence. I know that's dizzying, and that's sort
of this self looking ice cream cone of logic, but
that is actually this is widespread among the antiphotypes.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
John and Texas. What's going on? John?
Speaker 12 (38:52):
We called? And it's rough days these days. But when
theymed to study our more people need to study the history.
Hitler and the Nazis originated from the National Socialist Party Socialist.
So I don't know why people can't look up and say, well,
that is where the left is coming from. And they
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are the ones that are actually the Nazis, and then
the socialists generally speaking, the ones that are on top,
the leaders, They are the ones that make the money.
They are the ones that get paid. Well, AOC's Bernie.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That thing.
Speaker 12 (39:29):
Stacey Abrams looked up and she got a million, a
billion dollars to some group she headed up and they
pass out the money to the sales like that.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
But I appreciate the call John. I think with John's
hitting on Buck, a lot of times we talk about
political spectrums, I think it's honestly more accurate sometimes to
call it a political circle, because both logical extensions end
in a form of totalitarianism. Whether it's coming from the
left or the right, it is a complete control and
eradication of enemy, and that is I think where you
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become susceptible to this. I'd also point out variety of
opinion inside of party basically does not exist on the
left now, and it is a strength of a political
party to have multiple different competing perspectives because it limits totalitarianism.
There's actually a wide variety of reasons people support the
Republican Party, the Democrat Party that's become increasingly less so.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
He's unfortunately become Trump de range. But Jonah Goldberg wrote
a very good book Liberal Fascism almost twenty years ago
now Clay, that addresses exactly this, which is that the
liberal in this country or the leftist is a well,
that socialism is of the left and fascism is of
the left. And this is what people don't really under
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that that you know, there's a oh the right, right wing,
right wing totalitarian is fascism, no fascism and communism and
this we saw this play out in pre world work
through Germany. We're fighting over the same or a lot
of the same recruits and the same people, and that's
why there was violence against them. But they were both collectivists.
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It just one was a globalist collectivist in the case
of the Soviet uh, the Soviet model, whereas there was
a nationalist collectivist in the case of the fascists. Right,
but there's a lot of uh and yeah, national socialists
obviously what the Nazi Party actually was. There's a reason
for why they called themselves that.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Tara in North Carolina, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Tara?
Speaker 13 (41:30):
Hey there, thank you. We led working on your show.
I had my other niece here with me. Her name
is Abby, and well.
Speaker 5 (41:38):
Hi, Abby, we appreciate you being a part of the show.
Speaker 13 (41:43):
Well, we were calling in because you know, earlier in
the conversation today, you know, you were talking about what
makes the youth want to go and do these things
and if they grow up in a family that you know,
is considered a decent traditional family. And uh, I have
another niece and she's a sixteen also, and we don't
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really know what happened to send her to the liberal side,
and we we about talk about it every day, and
so that's why I was calling in to just say,
it kind of happens before your eyes. It's like, over
the past year, she just going, you know, to be
so liberal, and it's just almost scary.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I think this is one of the huge fears for
families out there, Buck, I mean, and I think every
family out there has someone they can point to that
has been lost to a in some way life that
is the opposite of how they were raised.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I think that there are forms of mental illness that
make people much more likely to become leftists. They're much
more susceptible to the ideology of the left because of
challenges that they have in their mind that that pre
that are sort of pre existing from the indoctrination phase
that's on component of this. I think that you'll increasingly
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see that there are differences in just brain, you know,
if you were to do it like a functional MRI,
a functional MRI, I think that there are differences in
the way that people on the herd left their brains
fire than other people.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
This is my belief a lot.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
There's a lot of early data that supports this kind
of stuff. You know, you can actually see like bipolarity
on a functional MRI. You can you know, an fMRI,
you can see extreme mental illness. It changes the way
that the brain is actually firing in certain ways. And
I think that leftism is something that you if you
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tried to, I think you'd be able to start to
map it out more than the brain because it is irrational.
It does not it does not make sense to Clay
to compare Trump to Hitler. Trump isn't Trump hasn't killed
anybody in this country.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
He's actually doing great things.
Speaker 14 (43:50):
Hitler tried to take over the entire world and murdered
millions and millions of people, eleven million of the death Camp,
six million.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Jews, Like, how are you comparing these things?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
This is like saying a mouse is a elephant, and
we're all supposed to look at you and say, yeah,
those two things are similar.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
They are not.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
Or a man as a woman.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
There we go.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
And I think it's intentional. I think they know that
if they can get you to lie about objective biological
reality takes you down to lie about everything.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well, this is a going back to my book Manufacturing Collusion.
This is why in totalitarianism it's so important that you
have to be a part of the lie clay. There
was something that the Nazis used to enforce called physionomic insubordination,
which is a very complex way of saying, if you
don't seem enthusiastic enough, you know, making the hand gestures
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and the you know, they they would come over and
and you could get in a lot of trouble. You
you know, you could disappear if you're if you made
the wrong face. You know, it'd be like if somebody
walked around during the national anthem and you know you
you didn't look patriotic enough. That was something the Nazis
in physionomic insubordination. You're your body slouched, you looked unhappy
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while you were chanting the mandatory slogans.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
This is why, I mean it still exists in North Korea.
This is why when you have North Korean celebratory events
in totalitarian governments, they are exaggerating their enthusiasm for fear
of potentially being severely consequented if they engage in behavior
that doesn't suggest that they are fans of the deer leader.
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This is why you have to have the painting or sorry,
the photograph of in a prominent place of Kim Jong
un out side of your home.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
And if you and if it's damaged, you can be
you can be sent to the camps, or you can
even be executed. That photo is more important in North
Korea than your own family. And that is that is
by law there, not that there's really law, but by
whatever you want to call it, the writ of the
of the totalitarian system that they have. We got more call,
you know, Claid, you want to want to we do
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a lovely read here and we'll take some more calls
the other side because we've got every line lit still.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, no doubt, we'll continue to take your calls. We
want you to be able to react. It's been a
tough week for many of us, all of us really
out there in the audience right now. Eight hundred and
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message there. Unfortunately, Buck, we already lost on the Prize
Picks pick the time. It was a tough one last night.
Jaden Daniels did not come through for us. Congratulations to
all the Packer fans. Jaden Daniels did not come through.
And uh and I'm sorry as.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
If you not put money on Sequan because how could
we expect a different outcome here?
Speaker 5 (46:46):
Sequan has not yet played. Okay, hold on, correction, we won.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
We won. This is a man look at this.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
I apologize. I was at my ninth Raiders game last night,
so I did not get to watch, and then we
went out to dinner. I did not get to watch
Washington Green Bay full confession last night. I knew it
was a really bad game for Washington. They scored two
touchdowns late, and by the grace of Prize Picks, those
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two touchdowns late were very beneficial to us in the
fourth quarter, and as a result, we actually did win
the first leg of our three way hopefully payoff. So
if you played along Prize picks dot Com code Clay,
you won last week four point two five to one.
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We are two thirds of the way to a five
to one payout, So fingers crossed. If Dereck Henry scores
this weekend, we will get a five to one payout.
Five to one payout going on now. Derrick Henry to
score a touchdown rushing or receiving. That's all we need
to win back to back weeks. Thanks to Jaden Daniels
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Speaker 1 (48:44):
All right, welcome back in everybody to Clay and Buck
let's take a whole bunch of calls and talkbacks here
as we go off into the weekend. This is like
our our sit down to be with each other and
just deal with this together, this situation this week. Remember
we were even before this horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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the country was reeling from the footage of.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Irena Zerutzka brutally murdered.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
So it's been a really and that footage, the full
footage of that came out.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I mean, it has been a really tough week.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
And so if you're feeling that, I'm sure almost I'm
sure all of you are.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
You're You're not alone at all. We're all just trying.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
To deal with this and and and push through and
and say prayers and hold loved ones close and keep
keep moving because that's all we can do. Keep moving,
keep moving forward, stay in the fight. Uh, let's see
we have where the who are the callers currently? Guys,
because we've got so many of these things coming in,
I K. Clay, do you see who's up right now
on the lines?
Speaker 5 (49:48):
Do we have we got a bunch of talkbacks. Let's
hit some of these talkbacks. Ee, what you got for us?
Speaker 7 (49:55):
My name is Joe. I'm from Mississippi. I'm a truck
driver Buck. I wanted to come on what you said.
I think death is too good for this young man.
I think he needs to go to Gimo, and I
think that's where it needs to be. I don't think
he needs to die. I think he needs to live
miserable life for what he did to us.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Well, we can get into a whole death penalty. I
appreciate your perspective, and a lot of people will share
that perspective. I think a lot of people share my perspective,
which is that there's ever a case for a death penalty,
this would be very high.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
On the list.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
And this gets into some deep philosophical Should the state
be involved in killing anybody? That's one part of this.
Why should the taxpayer have to spend It'll be hundreds
of thousands, maybe millions of dollars to support this individual
health care, food, and everything else for the next he's
twenty to twenty two years old.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
It could be a lot for eighty years.
Speaker 5 (50:51):
And also the expense of getting someone to the point
of being executed. Not only does it take a decade
or more, probably maybe twenty years in order to work
its way through the entire criminal justice system, but it
still might not happen. So that's the challenge. John by
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the Way, Goose Creek, South Carolina News Radio ninety four
point three.
Speaker 15 (51:17):
JJ, I am super angry right now, like just epically,
just disgusted with I'm a black man, and all I
see is blacks going all over place praising and celebrating
and putting down this man for being assassinated when they
don't even have a clue what he said as a
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black man. What am I supposed to do as a
conservative black man? How am I supposed to do it?
I wash my hands of them.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
I appreciate. Look, we start off the show by saying,
I have a family member who posted on Facebook that
he was glad that Charlie Kirk was murdered. I think that, unfortunately,
we've all had our eyes opened to how awful many
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of the people that surround us can be. When it
comes to this. What I would say is the advice
that I give you all the time, and this is
honestly something that Charlie has to do. Explain why you
believe that this person is awful most of the time.
Occasionally you'll see me do this on social media, so
(52:29):
people say, oh, Klay Travis, you're racist or homophobic or
transphobic or whatever else. And I'll just say, Okay, I've
been doing media twenty years. Please share what I have
done that is any of those things in your mind.
They never can. I think a lot of people on
the left they want to brand us as controversial. You
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read anything that's been written about me Buck for twenty years,
I'm always controversial, and I you caunt. Look. I understand
that there are contras, virtual opinions. I don't actually think
I have very many, and it's certainly not the number
one adjective that I would choose to describe me.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Well, I mean, I have heard your hate speech about
pistachio ice cream more than once.
Speaker 5 (53:12):
To be fair, Well, this is why radio is a
great for him, because we have the luxury of talking
to this audience all over the country every day and
over time, for better or worse. It's impossible to be
an actor and do radio. You reveal your inner soul
in your essence for good or ill and h And
(53:32):
that is why I think it's so hard to attack
people who are on radio, because people are like, well,
I listen to them for three hours every day, like
that's not fair. I mean, you can disagree, but my
point on that would be for that caller. I actually
think pushing back and saying with people that you know, hey,
why do you think that, and maybe share something that
(53:52):
you like that that person said, and say hey, I
think you'd actually agree with him here if you listened.
I think that's helpful.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Just a fun radio And I've I've had a few
people come up by the way here I'm in I'm
in Las Vegas, and I've had a few people come
up and say, you know, love the show, which is
always always so nice.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
They're they're visiting, right, I mean they're not.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
I don't think their native Las Vegas, las Vegans lost
Las Vegans.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
What do we what do we call the.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Las Vegas s e ends. That's a tough word too.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
I think it's Las Vegans, I would assume.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
But like I heard Spencer Cox today say utahns and
that's a pretty tough word to say. Yeah, yeah, he
doesn't flow Tennessee and where I am flows Floridian. Where
you are, that's a relatively easy one. It flows.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
So but you see these individuals and it's funny though,
because people who don't. There are people they listen on
talk radio and many of them listen to Rush and
they were Rush babies and so this this is uh,
the audio water in which they have been swimming for
decades in many cases. But it's funny to me when
people say, oh wow, you know, if they've heard us
for the first time or if they're very recent. I've
(54:54):
had people say, so who rights like who writes all
the stuff? You guys say?
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I always find that to be the highest compliment.
Speaker 8 (55:02):
I'm like, you think we're reading this, you think you
think someone's telling us what to say.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
I was like, Clay and I sit down.
Speaker 14 (55:07):
We basically for about sixty seconds before we go in
the air top story, top story, Okay, anything else, okay,
boom go, and then it is just you are watching.
It's like, you know, because we read in all morning
and we're reading the same stories, we're reading the same
data and information, and we're texting back and forth to
share that. But the actual formation of the show is
(55:28):
about sixty seconds of you good, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
There we go. Yeah, Clay's holding up his notepad, which,
by the way, I don't know what language that is.
Speaker 14 (55:35):
I don't think it's English, but it's something he's gott
Are you.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Writing in cyrillic? Are you some kind of a Russian agent?
What is that?
Speaker 5 (55:41):
I this is? I mean, for those of you watching
on YouTube right now, I don't think there's anything particularly
controversial or not supposed to be public on this notepad.
I sit with a yellow legal pad. I write down
the live reads, the advertisements that we have to do
in the segment that we have to do it, and
then like four or five things that I think are
significant for the day, just to remind myself, Hey, hit this,
(56:02):
make sure we touch on that. That's it. So, yeah,
there is no teleprompter. You know, this is not television.
We're not putting on makeup. God knows, if you watch
us on video, there is a There isn't some high
wire act other than just trying to sit down for
three hours and be as honest with all of you
as we possibly can be. Greg and Colorado, what you
(56:24):
got for us?
Speaker 9 (56:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (56:28):
I just had a couple points. You know, I know
lots of us do no liberals, and we work with
them every day and we see the hate that at
least half of them are spreading. They're glorifying and celebrating
the death of a beautiful person and just because of
his views. And basically, if they are celebrating his death,
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they would do the same thing with ours. I mean,
they would celebrate us our death. They would wish death
upon us because we have the same views. And then
one more quick point, when you see their post online,
I put two. I was trying to message you, guys.
I put them on your Facebook page and a message.
If you see them posting their glorification and celebrating of
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his death, you put bring that to people's attention. I
had one there's a lady who was saying she was
glad that he's dead because he supported Trump and here's
a fascist. And then she said the president is next
and we need to spread those and.
Speaker 5 (57:28):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
And I would say, because some of you have also
been emailing us, and I want to always be clear
when we ask you for emails and talkbacks, we're reading
all of it throughout the show, and that's one of
the ways that we can keep a real close pulse
on what's going on with you. We don't we can't
get to all of them on the air obviously, but uh,
it is something that we're constantly seeing and reading, and
(57:55):
even if so when you send it a talkback, we
get the transcript of it, and Clay and I see
all of the transcripts, and if you send us an email,
obviously we.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Read and see all of your emails.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
So don't think that because we don't read on the air,
you're not being heard.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
In a sense.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
And obviously we get to as many of the live
calls as we can too, that's a little different because
that has to be live and on the show. I
would say this though, because we've gotten some emails, Clay
where people say, well, you know, this isn't the Charlie situation.
Isn't surprising to them, meaning you know, the left's reaction
to it, because of how some people reacted when Rush past. Yeah,
(58:30):
and here's how I would just yes, that isn't that
that I totally see that observation. And for so many
of us two who have had I mean, I had
a family member die of you know, someone I was
very close to dive cancer, and it's so painful and
it's just such a tragic and human thing that really
(58:53):
all of us are going to know someone dies of cancer.
So for someone not to have some sympathy or a
lot of sympathy, but you know, at least some sympathy
or Rush Limbaugh as a human being shows you how
deprave their soul is or lack of a soul that
they have. Very similar with Charlie. But I would say
this Rush got to be Rush, and he got you know,
(59:13):
he got to do He got to be the greatest
on radio of all time. He got to live into
his into his phase of life where he could look
back on all that tremendous accomplishment. Something that's particularly particularly
tragic about this as Charlie was thirty one years old
and just getting going. You know, Rush had Rush had
(59:34):
saved the country perhaps right. I mean you look back,
look at what Rush did. He at least had the
time to do it. And it wasn't an assassin's bullet.
It was cancer. Tragic but different. But the response to
all of you who are write again, yes, of course
there were psychos out there who were celebrating Rush Limbaugh.
A husband, a great American, a great boss, a great person.
(59:57):
They were, and it just shows I can tell you
Clayton or I have ever celebrated the death of any
American you know in any way like this and never
would And you all know that because you listen to
us every day and you know how we are, you
know how we think, and you are the same way.
Speaker 12 (01:00:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
This is why I was saying, we are the people
listen to us on radio. Clay, you know how you
say about SEC football. I feel that way about ever.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I know you do too. Everyone listens to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Us on radio, they're good people because you're choosing to
spend time surrounded by good and decent and true thoughts.
Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
I told my boys, I hate to have to say this.
If something happens to me, don't go on social media. Yeah,
I mean I think that you know, face to face conversations,
listen to the people that are important in your life.
And your boy's gonna get older. You're hopefully gonna have
(01:00:50):
multiple kids, buck at some point you're gonna have to
sit down with them. And I've had to do this
for years, especially with the rise of social media. Say, hey,
who do you think knows Dad better? People getting on
social media and talking about me or you who have
lived in a house with me your whole life. I
think it's very illuminating. For kids out there in that scenario.
(01:01:10):
Judge people by what you see them do and how
you know them. Don't judge people by what other people
who don't know them at all say, right, And I
think that's unfortunate aspect of social media.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I would add Clay that in the case of Charlie
Kirk and also in the case of Rush Limbaugh, that
the satanic would dance on their graves is actually one
of the clearest symbols indicators of the good that they
stood for, the righteousness that they were fighting for, the
(01:01:47):
impact that they had. That the worst among us would
celebrate them being gone is proof of how important they
were in the fight, how much much they stood on
the front lines, how much they changed lives, how much
they saved lives, how much they saved this republic. And
so there is definitely crossover there as well.
Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Sometimes the people who hate you actually show to your
point just how important you were.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Oh, it's a badge of honor. I mean, the worst,
most psychotic, most destructive people in America hated Rush Limbaugh
just like they hated Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
It's the truth, though, the absolute worst people.
Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Amen, we come back, We'll close up the week. But
I want to tell you I wasn't even right about
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