September 22, 2025 • 50 mins
Charlie's Memorial
Clay and Buck reflect on the memorial event for conservative activist Charlie Kirk, whose recent assassination has galvanized the conservative movement.
There was a massive turnout in Phoenix — nearly 90,000 attendees — with impactful speeches delivered by Vice President JD Vance, President Donald Trump, Senior White House Advisor Steven Miller, and Charlie's widow, Erika Kirk, whose message of forgiveness and revival resonated deeply across the country.
Erika Kirk’s speech, delivered just 48 hours after her husband’s death, is highlighted as the most compelling moment of the day. Her biblical reference and refusal to incite violence underscore the conservative response to tragedy—marked by peace, unity, and spiritual renewal. Clay and Buck contrast this with leftist reactions to political violence, criticizing the media’s silence and the justification of riots as “the voice of the voiceless.”
Don't Forget This
Clay and Buck discuss the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by a trans-identifying individual, noting the lack of media coverage and accountability, and tying it to the leaked Roe v. Wade decision.
Kimmel Comeback?
Clay and Buck discuss the controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension from ABC, exploring the intersection of media bias, corporate strategy, and political influence. The hosts argue that Kimmel’s suspension was not a principled stand against offensive content, but rather a calculated move by Disney CEO Bob Iger to curry favor with the Trump administration.
This theory is tied to Disney’s reported interest in acquiring the NFL Network, a deal that would require regulatory approval and political goodwill. The conversation also highlights the role of affiliate networks like Nexstar and Sinclair, which may choose not to carry Kimmel’s show even if ABC reinstates him, further complicating the media landscape.
The hosts draw comparisons to past cancellations of conservative figures such as Roseanne Barr and Gina Carano, both of whom were removed from Disney projects for controversial speech. They argue that the selective outrage and inconsistent enforcement of speech standards reveal a deep ideological bias within corporate media. Clay and Buck emphasize their support for free speech across the board, even defending figures they personally disagree with, and criticize the hypocrisy of those who only defend speech when it aligns with their politics.
New Face of Dem Party?
Political analysis continues with a breakdown of polling data showing Republicans leading Democrats on key issues like the economy, immigration, and crime. The hosts highlight the media’s failure to cover the attempted assassination of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, noting the suspect’s transgender identity and linking it to a disturbing pattern of transgender-related violence in recent high-profile cases. They criticize the Biden administration’s vague responses and lack of transparency on the issue, arguing that the media and political establishment are ignoring a growing trend.
The show also features a viral moment from Virginia Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger, who dodges a direct question about her stance on transgender bathroom and locker room policies. The hosts praise the reporter, Nick Minock, for pressing the issue and use the exchange to underscore what they see as the Democratic Party’s refusal to engage honestly on cultural issues. They argue that if a politician won’t answer a basic question about gender policy, they can’t be trusted on anything else.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are rolling into the Monday edition of the Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I met a lot of you up in Michigan over
the weekend, the great event at Mcinaw Island for the
Republican Party of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As we move along, but Sunday taken over by the
Charlie Kirk Memorial that I would venture to say almost
all of you out there listening right now watched at
least a part of, if not substantial parts of I
know that many of you were among the ninety some
odd thousand that were in that stadium or the overflow
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crowd in the arena in the Phoenix area, and so
I thought, of course that we should start there.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Buck, I'll bring you in right off the top here.
I watched, full disclosure, a lot of NFL football, as
I also bet many of you did on Sunday, but
I wanted to make sure that I saw every minute
of jd Vance, every minute of Erica Kirk, and every
minute of Donald Trump. As the keynote for a day
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of memorial for Charlie Kirk. It was I thought an
incredibly well done event. We've got several different cuts to play.
But I imagine you also were watching a lot of
this during the course of your Sunday, perhaps unburdened by
any concern about NFL football as well, you might have
had it on the entire day. You are accurate in
(01:35):
your assumptions there, Yeah, Kerrie, in particular, I wanted to
watch really almost the whole thing, I think. I mean,
it was on for hours. I did a bit of babysitting,
and so I wasn't able to give it my undivided
attention because speed is adorable but fussy sometimes. But I
did get to watch. I watched Trump's speech, I watched
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Erica's speech, jd Vance, Stephen Miller, who I thought gave
a a in his own Steven Miller way. Spectacular speeches,
very much a rallying cry, very much about the fight
for the future that Charlie would want us all to
engage in and stay focused on. But it was an
incredible event and a fitting tribute to a remarkable young man,
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remarkable conservative father, husband and American So it really it
really came together very well.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Let's play what I thought was the most unbelievable resonant
moment of a day filled with many of them, and
that was Erica Kirk, who I just what an incredible
job she did last week on the Friday, to within
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forty eight hours of her husband's assassination. But then to
come out and perform in front of this crowd in
such a way that she did is frankly extraordinary. And
I thought the moment, and this is the cover of
the New York Post today, This is the clip that
is circulating more than any other, is Erica Kirk forgiving
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Charlie's assassin.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Here is cut one.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
My husband, Charlie.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
He wanted to save young men, just like the one
who took his life on the cross. Our savior said, Father,
forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean buck. That was and that's thirty seconds of
a five or six hour event. But I thought it
distilled perfectly her message. One more cut, And I do
think this is important to after Charlie Kirk's assassination, not
one person that I have seen who was a Charlie
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Kirk supporter has been arrested for an act of violence,
for lashing out, looting, rioting in any way, And Erica
Kirk pointed that out cut too.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
After Charlie's assassination, we didn't see violence, we didn't see rioting,
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we didn't see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband
always prayed he would see in this country.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We saw revival.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I thought those two clips perfectly distilled the entire day.
Buck anything else stand out to you, And I'm sure
that you were as blown away by eric A. Kirk,
who was not a professional politician, who was not a
professional speech giver, and the fact that to me, she
was the most compelling of anyone that took the stage yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It was It was what we, I think all expected
it to be in terms of the power and the
emotion of the gathering. You had not just the President himself,
but every top White House advisor, top Republicans, people who
all wanted to pay tribute to Charlie and to turning
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point into the movement that he has created it. And
I just think that this solidified if anybody had any questions,
and I think there are people do have anxieties about,
oh my gosh, you know, will the work continue, will
we stay in the fight. I think that this memorial,
this service for Charlie, with almost one hundred thousand people
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in attendance, answered those questions and then some and showed
that this is going to be a life's work. Is
that is celebrated, it's obviously incredibly sad, and we think
about his wife and his children and his family, and
that pain is still very much there. But Charlie accomplished
so much in his thirty one years that it will
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continue to inspire Americans and I think have incredibly positive
effects on the country for not just years, but generations
to come. And that's what greater tribute for the movement
and the work that he did. Could you have them that?
I also think it's time for us to in the
event that we have these riots and this looting you
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always hear, you know, looting and rioting is the voice
of the voiceless. All these things, No, it's just an
excuse to steal things and there is no emotion. If
if all of these people can see what happened to
Charlie Kirk killed in cold blood, the video widely distributed everywhere,
A innocent person engaged in a free speech event and
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the response to that is a revival church like event,
then I think any argument that in any way, this
is what they try to say on the left, Oh,
it's justified. It's the voice of the voiceless. You know,
all the things that they that they trod out there.
I hope that in the future, when there is a
scintilla of violent acts, that people are better than what
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Tim Walls was, because I think if Minnesota, Frankly had
a governor with a spine, I think they would have
stopped the rioting instantaneously in Minneapolis. I think if they had,
it would not have spread everywhere else. I hope that
we have learned how to shut down violent protests buck.
I think what happened with Trump in LA is a
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good example of this. I think he saw these could
be nationwide ice protests. No one wants to talk about it.
He called in the National Guard, they arrested people, and
basically the protest ended. And I'm not saying you can't protest.
You and I were big free speech proponents. I'm perfectly
fine with you making a poster board and going and
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marching for whatever you believe in. But you don't have
the right to get a Molotov cocktail and light a
police car on fire. You don't have the right to
burn down buildings. You don't have the right to act
in anger, and the fact that we allowed that to happen,
I think is a dark stain on America's soul. And
I think the response to what happened to Charlie Kirk
has shown us that we can be angry, we can
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be outraged, but we can be constructive and productive in
the way that we respond to it. And I hope
that we have this example of how to deal with, frankly,
a political assassination the likes of which most of us
had never lived through. I hope it is something that
will be a lesson going forward. Well, this is also
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a moment where you see that any attempt at both
sides ism in American politics today is dishonest because there's
no boarding up of stores, there's no fear of of
riots and bloodshed in the streets, which is obviously a
good thing, and that is also what our expectation is,
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meaning that if that stuff started to happen, people on
the right would say, knock that off, we don't do that,
or what are you doing. You're playing into the other
side's hands to what you were saying a moment ago,
Clay the left can pick any issue and they can
start acting like maniacs in the streets. They can have
formerly Biden and then Kamala voters come forward and say
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that what they're doing is somehow justified because of filling
the blank, you know, historical grievances, systematic racism, you know,
the transgenocide, whatever it may be, they have to make
or they choose to make allowances on their side for
those kinds of transgressions because it is baked into the ideology. Honestly,
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emotional instability is one of the unifying characteristics of the left. Unfortunately,
at the extremes that means people that are violent and destructive,
and we've seen far too much of that. So it
was exactly the kind of memorial and remembrance and celebration
of life that we would want to see for based
(10:13):
on the principles that Charlie stood for and based on
the kind of guy that he was. So I think
that everybody should, to the degree that we're all still
grieving and healing, but everyone should feel quite proud of
how the right came together and how people are celebrating
Charlie's life and his work.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I also think it's hard not to think that there
are going to be a lot of Charlie Kirks that
rise up. It's impossible to replace any legend. You and
I sit here at the golden microphone talking to everybody
out there every single day. What it takes is a
lot of people to lift their voices and be courageous
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and brave.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I do believe there are a lot of young
people that this will have a transformative impact on their life,
and I think you're already starting to see it. I
mentioned my boys, my teenage boys wearing coats and ties.
All the boys in their school doing it too, even
though Buck, you remember when you had to wear an
out they hate wearing coats and ties, but that is
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something that they recognize is worthy of commemoration, of memorialization.
I think there are so many young people out there
that are going to be continuing to be impacted by
Charlie Kirk in a very very significant way. And I
think that's the positive evocation of the event. We'll take
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some of your calls. Maybe some of you were there
no guest today, so we've got a lot to react to.
We'll have some fun that fallout of Kamala Harris's book
buck Ish. It is glorious. I have to say I
have a lot of thoughts, Clay, I have a lot
of thoughts. And you and I were on We can
have some fun. You and I were on Katie Kaylee
mcaley's show, her debut, and a lot of people were
(12:01):
not happy with my lighting, not happy with my tie,
and so we will have some fun with that as well.
But congratulations to Kaylee on the new show, and we
were happy to be among her first guests ever. Her dad,
big Mississippi State fan, got a big game going on
in Starkviille this weekend against the University of Tennessee. I'm
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck a bunch of news
stories to put on your radar. We're going to dive
into some of them here. Shortly. California has barred ICE
agents from wearing masks play. This doesn't go into effect
until January. They know it's going to be challenged, but
we should talk about this, just the the utter contempt
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for immigration enforcement that the state government of California has,
along with some other states who are trying to pass
similar laws, which are these are lawless laws. They know
that they don't have the authority to do this. They're
just doing it anyway, and they know the court will
eventually overturn them, but they are just doing it anyway.
We'll get to that. This just came out, Clay, and
because of some other bigger stories, I think got far
(14:10):
less attention that it would have otherwise. The the wacko
who said he wanted to kill a Supreme Court justice
Kavanaugh is now identifies as a trans woman. Yes, so
there's that. We can discuss a bit more on that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Just to mention that too, Buck nobody is covering it,
like the fact that this guy is trans. First of all,
we should dive into this in a little bit. But
the fact that we had a Supreme Court justice that
was attempted to be assassinated. The guy now says, hey,
I knew that if I killed enough people Roe v.
Wade wouldn't be overturned. I mean, this is another direct
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political assassination from the left attempt and most people just
pretend it never happened.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And there's another part of that, Clay, which is that
they released the decision illicitly early a left clearly we
never found out who it was. Somebody knew that Roe
was about to be overturned. Somebody who works in the
Supreme Court, Okay, k new Roe was going to be
done and decided, maybe we can change history or change
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the future here if we put it out there and
someone takes action. That's exactly what this was. Yes, So
that should not be forgotten that there was a whole
series of events leading up to this now trends identifying
individual who said he wanted to kill Supreme Court Justice
Brett Kavanaugh, trying to keep Roe v. Wade the so
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called law of the land. It was lawless all along.
That's one. And then on a far less serious note,
but an interesting note. Nonetheless, Clay, Kamala Harris's book is
not going over well with people. And I've got to
tell you this is not a surprise to me. I am,
(16:00):
I have, I have downloaded Kamala's book to my Kindle
and I have a long flight. You paid, you paid
for Kamala's book. Wait, hold on, Clay, you got.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
After me for buying Original Sin and reading it and
there was actual news in there. This is big breaking news.
You bought Kamala's book.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm I am. Actually it might even be in my
in my Amazon car. But by during the show today
it will be it will be bought. I would have
lost a lot of money on the bet. Will Buck
buy Kamala's book? Hold on, I Clay am an aspiring
Kamala ology, Kamalala Kamalologists. Come, how do we say that
(16:43):
A a expert in Kamala? I am a expert in
all things Kamala. And so I am going to read
her book. I'm going to read her book. I'm going
to be able to bring you lots of mockery of
this have said book, and I am not the only
one because people out there are. They are not liking
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the score settling, which goes to my point that her
future in the Democrat Party is essentially zero.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But we disagree you we should have some let's talk
about this when we come back. But I will say this,
a brilliant voice weight in on my side of this, Brillianah,
I know we will play that we come back. Let's
have some fun with this. I will say, if you
are out there and you play fantasy football, and you
are looking for punishments that someone might have to serve
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if they come in last place, this is the thing
in fantasy football, Kamala Harris's book and a book report
with drafted analysis like a written book report as if
you are a kid, would be a phenomenal point.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
People would just use chat GPT, but they should have
to read it on their on their Instagram or their
social media account. You know, they have to read their
book report of Kamala's book. That's good too, That's very good.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now.
Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and last week
you will recall with far more important stories in our site.
The suspension important word there. Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, a
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an unfunny late night comedy host, became a cause among Democrats.
Republicans are embracing cancel culture, the First Amendment, all this stuff.
I have a few thoughts on this, because, first of all,
the latest reporting is that Disney is considering bringing him back,
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so this would be a suspend. That's why the suspension
versus cancelation is a very interesting part of the conversation.
I would also add that Clay the whole oh my gosh,
the FCC, all that, all that stuff that we were
hearing last week, Well, if they're just going to bring
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him back, what does that mean about all that FCC talk,
It means that it was Disney's decision in the first place.
Disney's decision. In the last place, it is a private
company that is making this choice. Uh, now I wonder
what they're going to do here. And Clay, you understand
that I want you to lay this out for everybody
because I don't I don't follow the machinations of corporate
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of the of the corporate suite of media as closely
as as you do. Right then, the mergers and acquisitions
and all that stuff. Uh, you know who owns who?
I still I have to remind myself who owns NBC again?
And who bought Paramount? And where's Viacom in all this?
And Discovery Channel is what? And you know these things
are always in flux. You have a very good handle
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on that. You follow that stuff pretty closely. Before we
get into that, I would just point out though the
the oh my gosh, Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled. We
should all be so upset about this. And of course
Stephen Colbert and others were jumping on this bandwagon. The
guy from Ozark I saw him saying something about it.
What's his name Bateman, right, the actor Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman.
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He is actually I think he's a very good actor.
So It's always kind of a bummer when you see
somebody like, can't you just be the good actor and
not say the dumb things? But he spoke out on
They say, oh, look, people allowed to speak out on it.
I'm just alowed to say I I don't care and
their opinions are irrelevant. But Douglas Mackie, I'm not sure
who this fellow age? You see this he put out
on Twitter? This one very viral. Clay, I'm sorry, I
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must have missed it. I haven't caught up in the
latest news. Did PayPal cancel Jimmy Kimmel's personal account, did
Chasin Bank of America shut down his account? Did Twitter
ban him? Did Facebook suspend him? Did Stripe shut him down?
Did the FBI open up an investigation into him? Did
protesters force him to evacuate his studio? Did they chase
him to his house and force him to evacuate that too?
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Is there an entire ideology centered around the idea that
Jimmy Kimmel can't be allowed to speak anymore? Et cetera,
et cetera. He went into all of this, and I
just say, yeah, they're very of cancelation versus the so
called right wing version of cancelation are also very different things.
But you tell me there's more going on here even
than just is Jimmy Kimmel an unfunny jerk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
My basic takeaway here is unless you advocated for Roseanne Barr,
and unless you advocated for Gina Carano, and I'm specifically
referencing Disney corporate decisions based on speech, then I don't
want to hear a word from you about Jimmy Kimmel.
Now I advocated aggressively for Roseanne bar I don't think
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anybody should be canceled for a tweet. I really don't
in the creative space, because I think it blows up
eventually on all of us. I even defended a guy
that I think is a total war on, Keith Olberman,
that has said all sorts of crazy things in my
opinion about Charlie Kirk. And I defend this company iHeart,
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which says, hey, we want to put out every single
type of audio known to man, just like in music.
I mean, leave aside political opinions. Some of you may
really care a ton about rap music, others of you
hate it. Some of you love country music, some of
you love classical music. I heart provides it all right,
we should. I think the company give everybody every option
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out there, a big buffet of audio choices, and you
should be able to dive into it. Even if I
think people like Keith Olberman or moronic, and I think
on his podcast, I'm pretty sure he called me a
white supremacist.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You can say a lot. Sure he's called me. He's
called me tug sex butt, which is very mean, exactly
to his credit. That's actually pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But my point on it is, even inside of the
same company, there are people that are taking shots at us,
and I'm totally fine with it because there may be
some of you may find this shocking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
There may be people who don't like Buck or me,
even though I think they have awful taste. It's very
search and my mom and Buck's mom we just didn't
understand how you could ever have that opinion, but some
people do. Does your mom still kind of want to
fight everybody who doesn't like you online? Because my mom
totally does too. It's such a mom thing. I'm like,
don't worry about a mom. She's like, I will finish them.
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I told you.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
About when I first started writing that my mom got
in the mentions underneath my articles to defend me. Oh yeah,
back in two thousand and five, like twenty some odd
years ago, I was writing and they started to allow
all the mentions underneath you know, articles, and my mom
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created an account and went in and was defending me,
and uh, I think it was I think it was
my sister. She was like, Hey, just so you know,
Mom is in the comment.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Your mom is a great lady in the mom My
mom would totally do the same thing, by the way,
like if she hasn't done it, she totally would, because
you know, it's we're always there, little boy, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
An account to respond to people saying mean things about
me in the comments underneath my articles.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I had to call. I was like, Mom, you
know this is great, but it's going to turn into
a story if you're in the comments all the time.
Ten Clay anecdote like this is up there with the
zero people showing up to the book signing, like this
is a great Clay story. I like this a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, Mom was in the comments and well, you know,
and just defending me. You know, like my son is
a really I mean, it's really, I mean, every mom
out there can appreciate it. And I was like, Mom,
I appreciate it, but you can't do this because it's
going to turn into a big story in the years
ahead if you're always in the comments fighting with people.
And I've seen this from other moms sports message boards.
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Every now and then, somebody's mom, you know, the kids
getting attacked because not playing quarterback or whatever. Well enough,
and mom will just go out And I want to
give her credit because I thought this was really funny.
More of Rutledge super talented ESPN employee, did an interview
recently where she said her husband Josh, who was a
baseball player, played for the Red Sox other teams, major
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League Baseball player, really talented guy that people would would
rip him, and she created a burner account.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
She came clean. She was like, I just I had
a burner account on social media where I would just
go in and defend my husband because people would be like, oh,
he went eight over four, and she's like, did you
see the great catch that he made in center field? Which,
again I think sometimes what we do is harder on
the periphery the people who are not us, than it
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is us ourselves. Much like if you are an athlete
on the field and it's a stressful moment in a game.
You will often say, yeah, I didn't feel the stress
because you controlled the outcome in some way. But Mom
or dad, girlfriend, whoever it is, sitting in the crowd, sister,
brothers that they feel the intensity and the nervousness more
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than the person on the field.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think that's true for what we do too. And
I know the periphery, the p numbers surrounding us to
people and family feel that. But so that's a true story.
Mom probably listening right now. I appreciate her stepping in
now on your point on media. I love all this stuff.
And again, if you didn't defend Roseanne, if you didn't
defend Gina Corano when Disney canceled both despite the fact
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that they had far more successful shows they were a
part of. In the Roseanne show whatever it was called,
the Connors, I think, and in The Mandalorian, which at
the time was the most popular show on Disney Plus,
and I'm told from my kids and my wife who
watch it was fantastic, really good show.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
They canceled Gina Corano. I don't want to hear a
word about Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But I think what's being actually at play here Buck
that nobody's talking about. There's multiple different media angles. First
of all, Disney is trying to buy the NFL network.
In order to buy the NFL network, they're gonna have
to get Trump approved. I think Bob Iger saw this
saw an opportunity to just curry favor with the Trump
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administration by benching Jimmy Kimmel, potentially kicking him to the curb.
I don't think it was about Kimmel at all. I
think it's about the NFL. Other part, Next Star and.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Sinclair are two major affiliate groups of ABC. A lot
of people think, oh, if I watch ABC that's owned
most of us actually watch on an affiliate station my
for instance, ABC affiliate in Nashville is owned by Nextstar.
I think those guys are also trying to curry favor
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over some of the decisions that are going to be
made by the Trump administration over the next few years,
and they see it as an opportunity to curry favor
by kneecapping Jimmy Kimmel as well. So while everybody's focused
on Jimmy Kimmel and what he said, which was wrong,
and which I think that he should have to apologize
for the way that it was conveyed because it wasn't
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a joke, it was the background of a joke. And
so but I think this is the bigger story that's
going on, is there is a desperate desire for the
Disney Corporation to buy the NFL network. They want to
get Trump approval, and then I think also the affiliates
are seeking Trump approval as well, and Jimmy Kimmel in
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that way is just kind of a just kind of
a random anti Trump zellot that they don't really they're
not committed to because they're making no money on okay,
But final answer here, are they bringing Jimmy Kimmel back.
It's a big decision. I think they will. They will.
I think they will as well, and I think that
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that's going to show a lot of bad faith to
people that feel like Disney finally did something to show
respect to the half the country that Disney has been
effectively from a corporate level spitting on for a long
time now. Yep, I think Disney is playing with fire
here more than they are.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I agree with you, and I think Disney has managed
to put themselves in a position where they may well
be boycotted in both directions simultaneously.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes, because everybody that's right when you don't.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
This is a great line from Charles Barkley and uh
and and I think it's it's great lesson for life.
No matter what you do, if you worry about trying
to make the people who don't like you like you,
then the people who do like you won't like you anymore.
And so much of social media is trying to make
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people who don't like you, oftentimes operating in poor and
bad faith, like you.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And if you worry about that, if you worry.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
About that, then you're going to end up in a
situation where the people who do like you and respect
you will no longer like and respect you either. And
I think Disney, frankly, Bob Iger has he made too
really good decison. He bought Marvel, he bought the Star
Wars and then and Pixar, a three good decisions. Basically
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since then he's been an awful CEO. You go look
at Disney stock and I bet a lot of you
own it. It hasn't gone up in a decade, a
full decade. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars as CEO.
I think he's destroyed the brand to a large extent
that Disney built. And I don't think that he has
tended to create great content. He's become more political than creative,
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and that's a bad combination.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I also just think to what you were saying a
moment ago and about the sage, the advice from mister Barkley, Yeah,
which I would I would say that that's very, very true.
Part of being an adult. I think part of maturing
is just understanding that people are going that You're going
to have people dislike you for reasons that you should
(31:58):
be proud of, and therefore it shouldn't bother you. All. Like,
people are going to be mad at you for telling
the truth, and you have to embrace that. And I
mean that in a very general sense. I mean that
in your day to day life, not just in politics.
People will be mad at you for saying what is true,
will be mad at you or not like you for
calling them on their stuff or refusing to play their games,
or whatever it may be. If everybody likes you, you
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are not doing what you need to do. That is
another truism of life. I'll tell you one other thing.
Make the circle that people that you care about small.
And that's going to sound mean, but what I mean
is if you can't control anything like I care. And
I say this all the time about my three boys
and my wife, that's in my household, that's the things
(32:44):
that I'm directly involved in. I can't control a lot
of what everybody else does. And so much of life.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Is focused on people that you have no ability to
actually try to make good choices. You worry about, you
get concerned about, and you can't You don't have any
an ability to impact it.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Like when your boys said that you were an unk
for wearing quarter length socks. Let me tell you I'm
in the blast radius of that enough that whenever now
I go through my drawer, I find those socks that
are low. No. I don't want to be an unk,
don't I don't want the Travis boys to find out
that I'm dressed like that. So you know what I'm saying,
You got to pay attention to who you pay attention to.
The boys light me up all the time for being
(33:24):
an UNK, and I just look around and I'm like,
you know, unks are right about a lot. And that's
why I'm fine taking the shrapnel here for being an
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We got a bunch of different clips that I want
to make sure that we get to to kind of
update you on how everything is going out there.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
And I've sent a couple in. Let me pull them
up to see exactly what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
First play a clip of Harry Inton we are not
that far away, one year away from the election taking
place in the midterms. And here is what CNN's Harry
Inton says, Republicans are advantaged by. Let's listen to that cut.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
So what are we seeing, you know, Donald Trump being
underwater Democrats and all this guarantees us we're gonna fly
high in the midtrans Let me tell you this guarantees
you nothing. Nothing because at this particular point, the Democrats
are the New Orleans Saints of political parties. What are
we talking about, trust the Dems or GOP? More on
the economy? Who leads on the economy Republicans by seven Immigration,
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Republicans by thirteen. How about crime? A big issue for
Donald Trump? And the Republicans look at that lead by
twenty two points. So the bottom line is this, at
this particular point, the ball may be on the ground,
but the Democrats have not picked up the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I'm running with it. If anything, at.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
This particular point, it's the Republicans who are running with
the ball on the top issues the economy, immigration, and crime.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay, so that is out there worth paying attention to.
As we said, about fourteen months away from the midterms
taking place, I also wanted to play this because Buck,
you talked about it, and there was the report from
Mary Margaret Olahan at the Daily Wire came out on
(36:58):
Friday afternoon that the individual who tried to kill Supreme
Court Justice Kavanaugh in the Washington, DC area, this would
be assassin, was motivated by the fact that he wanted
to overturn the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Wade.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That is, he wanted to kill a justice. Why this
is so important and I feel like it's totally been
snowed under you mentioned it. We still have no idea
who specifically leaked to this opinion, but the goal was
to put pressure on Republicans and potentially meaning Republican appointees
on the Court and potentially get one of these individuals killed. Remember,
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Democrats had control of the Senate and they had control
of the White House, So if the Brett Kavanaugh assassin
had succeeded, this was a draft opinion. It doesn't become
law until there is actually the release of the opinion.
So if you kill a Supreme Court justice, you get
a new one appointed. The outcome of this case could
(38:00):
have potentially been changed based on assassin goals, and I
believe we have audio, if somebody will share me the number,
but that was just discussed by the White House Press
briefing with Caroline Levitt thirty four.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Let's play that and then I'll get you to react
as well.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Buck, Charlie's killer lived with his boyfriend who identifies as transgender.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
And then we have the Annunciation shooting, the Covenant shooting, all.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Of these incidents.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
The President said that we're looking into transgender violence.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Does that mean the FBI is looking into it?
Speaker 8 (38:29):
And can you give any more clarity on how the
administration is viewing this of taking specifically transgender violence. It's
definitely something worth looking into, and I think anyone who
denies that at this point is being willfully ignorant, and
the administration is taking it seriously. All causes of violence
and why these people would be driven to such evil
and such hatred, and there's probably many answers to that question,
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but the administration is really focused on all of them
for individual investigations. In cases, of course, the FBI and
the Department of Justice are eating those.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Okay, so this would be assassin also trans So Buck,
you just heard that question. The extent the audio wasn't great.
Minneapolis trans shooter, Nashville trans shooter, the it would be
Brett Kavanaugh assassin, trans shooter, and the person who just
assassinated Charlie Kirk living with a trans person and motivated
(39:24):
in some way by trans related issues. Seems kind of
like a significant trend just in the last year of
outrageous levels of trans violence.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Well, you have people who are disproportionately in let's just say,
in need of mental health assistance. That's that's part one
of this. It used to be that transgenderism was considered
something that alone was grounds for serious mental health treatment,
and now we've reached an era where there has to
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be not only affirmation of it, but celebration of it.
And if you don't go along with that. As we
have seen in the press for years now, there are
these really wild claims about like the transgenocide, you know,
the effort clay just to stop the surgeries and hormone giving.
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It's mostly hormone giving, but sometimes surgery too, and these
clinics that are doing this in places around the country.
That has been responded to by the pro trans community
with a complete outrage, Like the notion that you wouldn't
want a twelve year old or a fourteen year old
(40:40):
to start taking puberty blockers. They can't answer these questions
like what are the long term studies on first of all,
will this make this person actually feel better? Long term
studies than that if you really look at it, very
poor What are the long term health implications of this?
Very poorly understood? And yet they push all of this
and they still don't really know what to say about
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I mean, this has cut twenty Clay. This is Abigail Spanberger,
who's supposed to be the great moderate hope of the
Democrat Party in Virginia, right, the sort of a throwback.
Mostly I think she's just boring and doesn't really stand
for anything that's their version of a moderate. Here she
is saying, well, I'll let you listen to her on
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the trans issue play twenty.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Do you support biological males who say they're women using
women's locker rooms and bathrooms and competing in women's sports.
Speaker 10 (41:31):
Well, the circumstance as this legal case plays out is
really one of we've had court cases settled or judged
here in Virginia in the fourth District, the former Gavin
Grim case related to bathroom usage, and in fact the
argument is the assessment is. There needs to be much
clearer guidance in terms of what is an executive orders
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binding assessment of Title nine versus what has been a
decision of a court.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Do you personally support these policies?
Speaker 9 (42:02):
You personally support them, But do you support these locker
room or bathroom policies? Congresswoman? Why can't you answer this
question directly? Congresswoman? Congress women, do you support these bathroom
and locker room than you? Why can't you answer these
questions directly?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
We know why, and she won't, And I'm dizzy from
her answer that was that was a remarkable, uh, series
of just non sequiturs and spewing nonsense.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
This is what media should do. I don't know, guys,
can you give me the guy's name who asked that question.
There's no reason to be a media figure if you're
going to ask questions that no one wants to know
the answer to. And sometimes that non answer is more
revealing than an actual answer would be. This is how
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broken the Democrat Party is. If you ask me, should
men be able to compete in women's sports? I would say,
of course not. Ninety nine percent of you listening to
us right now hecket, maybe one hundred percent would say
no doubt. What does it say about the Democrat Party
that that answer, which is all just gobblygook and designed
(43:16):
to distract from the question itself, is basically the standard tenant.
By the way, give him credit. I don't know what
else he's ever done, so I'm not endorsing everything he's
ever done. I feel like you need to say that.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But that is.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
WJLATV reporter Nick Minnock. So that's the person who followed up.
That's the person asking this question to me. If I
lived in Virginia, this would be enough for me to
vote single handedly against Abigail Spamberger. I don't know anything
else about her positions. But if you will not honestly
tell me what you believe on this issue, how can
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I trust you on anything. That's why I think this
issue of men and women sports is such a crucible marker,
because if you'll lie to me about this, I can't
trust you on anything else.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Well, this is also where Democrats find themselves, as we're
going to be getting ready for a midterm election here
constantly playing the game of well, I'm not one of
those Democrats. I'm some other Democrat. I'm not one of
the open borders trans guys in your daughter's locker room.
(44:22):
You know, go down the list of all these things.
Notice how I just want to point this out. When
was the last time you heard anybody talk about climate change?
Just to give you a sense of what a absolutely
manufactured delusion book plug climate change is. It was Clay
Obama gave a speech and I think it was the
Coastguard Academy. He said, the biggest national security threat we
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face is climate change. This was a and I understand
right now, Buck, why are you even wasting our time?
Who cares about climate change? Exactly a few years ago
it was the biggest thing that we all had to
be so worried about. Now it's absolutely nothing. Democrats are in.
The party is saying their ideas make no sense. And
here you have Chuck Schumer, who's one of a perfect
(45:06):
example of this. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and these
others exist to pretend the Democrat Party today isn't what
it really is to fool older voters who just don't
know where is Where's Schumer?
Speaker 9 (45:18):
On?
Speaker 6 (45:18):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Donnie Clay, here you go listen to this play seventeen.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
Please, there are two key questions here that you haven't answered.
One is will you ever endorse him? And two what
do you need from him to get your endorsement?
Speaker 11 (45:35):
Okay, well, first of all, you know, I know him.
We've had a good relationship in the past, and we
had a good meeting two weeks ago, a very long
meeting with a lot of serious questions. And all I
can tell you is I'm going to continue talking to him.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
What's the hold up?
Speaker 11 (45:51):
I got to continue talking to him, and that's.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
What I'm going to do.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
Is part of the calculus that if you endorse a
Democratic socialist, you're worried it will be damaging to your
maybe they've been your chances of winning back the Senate.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I'm going to continue talking to him. Danny, you can
answer me again. I mean a CNN actually doing real
journalism for a second there. I was shocked by it,
but that's legitimate. She can see Clay, we can all
see it. The whole game here is people like Schumer
who have been in this game forever. They are at
the top of the Democrat power structure, but they have
(46:25):
to tell the general public that the Democrats are something
other than what they are, especially this up and coming
generation of lunatics.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, and this is why I've said, sorry, New York,
maybe Mam Donnie just is an awful mayor for you,
But I think that the premise of her question is accurate,
and so is the response of Chuck Schumer by trying
to dodge it. He's terrified that Mam Donni and AOC
(46:53):
are going to be seen as the face of the
Democrat Party in the midterms because overwhelming majorities of America
I think will reject them, and that's why he's trying
to dodge the question. But even see it in now
is on and starting to ask a little bit at
least basic questions that.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
That they're afraid to answer it. Sometimes somebody's afraid to
answer a question, say it's all about, you know, boiling
the frog slowly. AOC is a Democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders
a Democratic Socialist. They just they want to wait and
wait so that people, you know, don't really understand what's
going on and who's really calling the shots and what
kind of policies they really want to do. He just
(47:32):
doesn't want to say it out loud. He doesn't want
to tell people the truth Chuck Schumer about the direction.
I don't think the mom donnyism play is some fringe
thing Democrats are going to walk. I think that's what
the Democrat Party is. Well, Chuck Schumer's just there to
lie about that, and I think that's certainly what a
AOC believes, which is why I know you talked about this.
On Friday, Axios reported she's going to run for president probably.
(47:54):
I think she's definitely going to run for president. Oh
and I.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Think she sees herself as the heir to the Bernie
Sanders left of the party, and you can see that
with the way that she's been handling the attacking the
oligarchy tour when this is all very funny. They only
traveled via a private plane, and reports are AOC stayed
in one thousand.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Dollars a night hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I just some of this stuff, Like, I bet that
no one listening to us right now hardly. There may
be some billionaires out there that have stayed in one
thousand dollars a night hotel rooms, And there is just
no way that all you had to do was just
fly commercial first class. You can fly first class and
(48:40):
just stay in normal hotel rooms. They want to live
like oligarchs, but they want to live like oligarchs while
being members of Congress and the Senate. Right, they want
all of the benefits that come with making a lot
of money without having made the money themselves. Instead, they
want the taxpayer to fund it, or they're donors to
fund it.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's the story of these people. Remember Tax the Rich.
When AOC showed up at the fifty thousand dollars per
ticket Mechala in her white Tax the Rich dress. I mean,
these people are such frauds.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
This coming week in New York City, Tunnel the Towers
Foundation having their annual Tunnel the Towers five k Run
and walk, held each year on the last Sunday of September.
What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and
two now considered one of the top five k runs
in the country, drawing forty thousand people last year. It
retraces firefighter Steven Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning
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his car, he ran with sixty pounds of gear from
the foot of the Battery Tunnel to the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
He never made it out the five thousand. The five
K pays homage to the three hundred and forty three
FDNY firefighters, law enforcement officers, and thousands of civilians who
lost their lives on nine to eleven. Proceeds from the
event support the foundation's programs, including those benefiting first response unders,
catastrophically injured service members, and more. Producer Ali and Cash
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We are rolling into the Monday edition of the Clay
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I met a lot of you up in Michigan over
the weekend, the great event at Mcinaw Island for the
Republican Party of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As we move along, but Sunday taken over by the
Charlie Kirk Memorial that I would venture to say almost
all of you out there listening right now watched at
least a part of, if not substantial parts of I
know that many of you were among the ninety some
odd thousand that were in that stadium or the overflow
(00:41):
crowd in the arena in the Phoenix area, and so
I thought, of course that we should start there.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Buck, I'll bring you in right off the top here.
I watched, full disclosure, a lot of NFL football, as
I also bet many of you did on Sunday, but
I wanted to make sure that I saw every minute
of jd Vance, every minute of Erica Kirk, and every
minute of Donald Trump. As the keynote for a day
(01:12):
of memorial for Charlie Kirk. It was I thought an
incredibly well done event. We've got several different cuts to play.
But I imagine you also were watching a lot of
this during the course of your Sunday, perhaps unburdened by
any concern about NFL football as well, you might have
had it on the entire day. You are accurate in
(01:35):
your assumptions there, Yeah, Kerrie, in particular, I wanted to
watch really almost the whole thing, I think. I mean,
it was on for hours. I did a bit of babysitting,
and so I wasn't able to give it my undivided
attention because speed is adorable but fussy sometimes. But I
did get to watch. I watched Trump's speech, I watched
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Erica's speech, jd Vance, Stephen Miller, who I thought gave
a a in his own Steven Miller way. Spectacular speeches,
very much a rallying cry, very much about the fight
for the future that Charlie would want us all to
engage in and stay focused on. But it was an
incredible event and a fitting tribute to a remarkable young man,
(02:20):
remarkable conservative father, husband and American So it really it
really came together very well.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Let's play what I thought was the most unbelievable resonant
moment of a day filled with many of them, and
that was Erica Kirk, who I just what an incredible
job she did last week on the Friday, to within
(02:47):
forty eight hours of her husband's assassination. But then to
come out and perform in front of this crowd in
such a way that she did is frankly extraordinary. And
I thought the moment, and this is the cover of
the New York Post today, This is the clip that
is circulating more than any other, is Erica Kirk forgiving
(03:10):
Charlie's assassin.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Here is cut one.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
My husband, Charlie.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
He wanted to save young men, just like the one
who took his life on the cross. Our savior said, Father,
forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean buck. That was and that's thirty seconds of
a five or six hour event. But I thought it
distilled perfectly her message. One more cut, And I do
think this is important to after Charlie Kirk's assassination, not
one person that I have seen who was a Charlie
(04:07):
Kirk supporter has been arrested for an act of violence,
for lashing out, looting, rioting in any way, And Erica
Kirk pointed that out cut too.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
After Charlie's assassination, we didn't see violence, we didn't see rioting,
(04:38):
we didn't see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband
always prayed he would see in this country.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We saw revival.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I thought those two clips perfectly distilled the entire day.
Buck anything else stand out to you, And I'm sure
that you were as blown away by eric A. Kirk,
who was not a professional politician, who was not a
professional speech giver, and the fact that to me, she
was the most compelling of anyone that took the stage yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It was It was what we, I think all expected
it to be in terms of the power and the
emotion of the gathering. You had not just the President himself,
but every top White House advisor, top Republicans, people who
all wanted to pay tribute to Charlie and to turning
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point into the movement that he has created it. And
I just think that this solidified if anybody had any questions,
and I think there are people do have anxieties about,
oh my gosh, you know, will the work continue, will
we stay in the fight. I think that this memorial,
this service for Charlie, with almost one hundred thousand people
(05:55):
in attendance, answered those questions and then some and showed
that this is going to be a life's work. Is
that is celebrated, it's obviously incredibly sad, and we think
about his wife and his children and his family, and
that pain is still very much there. But Charlie accomplished
so much in his thirty one years that it will
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continue to inspire Americans and I think have incredibly positive
effects on the country for not just years, but generations
to come. And that's what greater tribute for the movement
and the work that he did. Could you have them that?
I also think it's time for us to in the
event that we have these riots and this looting you
(06:39):
always hear, you know, looting and rioting is the voice
of the voiceless. All these things, No, it's just an
excuse to steal things and there is no emotion. If
if all of these people can see what happened to
Charlie Kirk killed in cold blood, the video widely distributed everywhere,
A innocent person engaged in a free speech event and
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the response to that is a revival church like event,
then I think any argument that in any way, this
is what they try to say on the left, Oh,
it's justified. It's the voice of the voiceless. You know,
all the things that they that they trod out there.
I hope that in the future, when there is a
scintilla of violent acts, that people are better than what
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Tim Walls was, because I think if Minnesota, Frankly had
a governor with a spine, I think they would have
stopped the rioting instantaneously in Minneapolis. I think if they had,
it would not have spread everywhere else. I hope that
we have learned how to shut down violent protests buck.
I think what happened with Trump in LA is a
(07:47):
good example of this. I think he saw these could
be nationwide ice protests. No one wants to talk about it.
He called in the National Guard, they arrested people, and
basically the protest ended. And I'm not saying you can't protest.
You and I were big free speech proponents. I'm perfectly
fine with you making a poster board and going and
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marching for whatever you believe in. But you don't have
the right to get a Molotov cocktail and light a
police car on fire. You don't have the right to
burn down buildings. You don't have the right to act
in anger, and the fact that we allowed that to happen,
I think is a dark stain on America's soul. And
I think the response to what happened to Charlie Kirk
has shown us that we can be angry, we can
(08:27):
be outraged, but we can be constructive and productive in
the way that we respond to it. And I hope
that we have this example of how to deal with, frankly,
a political assassination the likes of which most of us
had never lived through. I hope it is something that
will be a lesson going forward. Well, this is also
(08:48):
a moment where you see that any attempt at both
sides ism in American politics today is dishonest because there's
no boarding up of stores, there's no fear of of
riots and bloodshed in the streets, which is obviously a
good thing, and that is also what our expectation is,
(09:08):
meaning that if that stuff started to happen, people on
the right would say, knock that off, we don't do that,
or what are you doing. You're playing into the other
side's hands to what you were saying a moment ago,
Clay the left can pick any issue and they can
start acting like maniacs in the streets. They can have
formerly Biden and then Kamala voters come forward and say
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that what they're doing is somehow justified because of filling
the blank, you know, historical grievances, systematic racism, you know,
the transgenocide, whatever it may be, they have to make
or they choose to make allowances on their side for
those kinds of transgressions because it is baked into the ideology. Honestly,
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emotional instability is one of the unifying characteristics of the left. Unfortunately,
at the extremes that means people that are violent and destructive,
and we've seen far too much of that. So it
was exactly the kind of memorial and remembrance and celebration
of life that we would want to see for based
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on the principles that Charlie stood for and based on
the kind of guy that he was. So I think
that everybody should, to the degree that we're all still
grieving and healing, but everyone should feel quite proud of
how the right came together and how people are celebrating
Charlie's life and his work.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I also think it's hard not to think that there
are going to be a lot of Charlie Kirks that
rise up. It's impossible to replace any legend. You and
I sit here at the golden microphone talking to everybody
out there every single day. What it takes is a
lot of people to lift their voices and be courageous
(10:52):
and brave.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I do believe there are a lot of young
people that this will have a transformative impact on their life,
and I think you're already starting to see it. I
mentioned my boys, my teenage boys wearing coats and ties.
All the boys in their school doing it too, even
though Buck, you remember when you had to wear an
out they hate wearing coats and ties, but that is
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something that they recognize is worthy of commemoration, of memorialization.
I think there are so many young people out there
that are going to be continuing to be impacted by
Charlie Kirk in a very very significant way. And I
think that's the positive evocation of the event. We'll take
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some of your calls. Maybe some of you were there
no guest today, so we've got a lot to react to.
We'll have some fun that fallout of Kamala Harris's book
buck Ish. It is glorious. I have to say I
have a lot of thoughts, Clay, I have a lot
of thoughts. And you and I were on We can
have some fun. You and I were on Katie Kaylee
mcaley's show, her debut, and a lot of people were
(12:01):
not happy with my lighting, not happy with my tie,
and so we will have some fun with that as well.
But congratulations to Kaylee on the new show, and we
were happy to be among her first guests ever. Her dad,
big Mississippi State fan, got a big game going on
in Starkviille this weekend against the University of Tennessee. I'm
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck a bunch of news
stories to put on your radar. We're going to dive
into some of them here. Shortly. California has barred ICE
agents from wearing masks play. This doesn't go into effect
until January. They know it's going to be challenged, but
we should talk about this, just the the utter contempt
(13:48):
for immigration enforcement that the state government of California has,
along with some other states who are trying to pass
similar laws, which are these are lawless laws. They know
that they don't have the authority to do this. They're
just doing it anyway, and they know the court will
eventually overturn them, but they are just doing it anyway.
We'll get to that. This just came out, Clay, and
because of some other bigger stories, I think got far
(14:10):
less attention that it would have otherwise. The the wacko
who said he wanted to kill a Supreme Court justice
Kavanaugh is now identifies as a trans woman. Yes, so
there's that. We can discuss a bit more on that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Just to mention that too, Buck nobody is covering it,
like the fact that this guy is trans. First of all,
we should dive into this in a little bit. But
the fact that we had a Supreme Court justice that
was attempted to be assassinated. The guy now says, hey,
I knew that if I killed enough people Roe v.
Wade wouldn't be overturned. I mean, this is another direct
(14:48):
political assassination from the left attempt and most people just
pretend it never happened.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And there's another part of that, Clay, which is that
they released the decision illicitly early a left clearly we
never found out who it was. Somebody knew that Roe
was about to be overturned. Somebody who works in the
Supreme Court, Okay, k new Roe was going to be
done and decided, maybe we can change history or change
(15:16):
the future here if we put it out there and
someone takes action. That's exactly what this was. Yes, So
that should not be forgotten that there was a whole
series of events leading up to this now trends identifying
individual who said he wanted to kill Supreme Court Justice
Brett Kavanaugh, trying to keep Roe v. Wade the so
(15:39):
called law of the land. It was lawless all along.
That's one. And then on a far less serious note,
but an interesting note. Nonetheless, Clay, Kamala Harris's book is
not going over well with people. And I've got to
tell you this is not a surprise to me. I am,
(16:00):
I have, I have downloaded Kamala's book to my Kindle
and I have a long flight. You paid, you paid
for Kamala's book. Wait, hold on, Clay, you got.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
After me for buying Original Sin and reading it and
there was actual news in there. This is big breaking news.
You bought Kamala's book.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm I am. Actually it might even be in my
in my Amazon car. But by during the show today
it will be it will be bought. I would have
lost a lot of money on the bet. Will Buck
buy Kamala's book? Hold on, I Clay am an aspiring
Kamala ology, Kamalala Kamalologists. Come, how do we say that
(16:43):
A a expert in Kamala? I am a expert in
all things Kamala. And so I am going to read
her book. I'm going to read her book. I'm going
to be able to bring you lots of mockery of
this have said book, and I am not the only
one because people out there are. They are not liking
(17:04):
the score settling, which goes to my point that her
future in the Democrat Party is essentially zero.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But we disagree you we should have some let's talk
about this when we come back. But I will say this,
a brilliant voice weight in on my side of this, Brillianah,
I know we will play that we come back. Let's
have some fun with this. I will say, if you
are out there and you play fantasy football, and you
are looking for punishments that someone might have to serve
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in fantasy football, Kamala Harris's book and a book report
with drafted analysis like a written book report as if
you are a kid, would be a phenomenal point.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
People would just use chat GPT, but they should have
to read it on their on their Instagram or their
social media account. You know, they have to read their
book report of Kamala's book. That's good too, That's very good.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right, second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now.
Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and last week
you will recall with far more important stories in our site.
The suspension important word there. Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, a
(19:14):
an unfunny late night comedy host, became a cause among Democrats.
Republicans are embracing cancel culture, the First Amendment, all this stuff.
I have a few thoughts on this, because, first of all,
the latest reporting is that Disney is considering bringing him back,
(19:37):
so this would be a suspend. That's why the suspension
versus cancelation is a very interesting part of the conversation.
I would also add that Clay the whole oh my gosh,
the FCC, all that, all that stuff that we were
hearing last week, Well, if they're just going to bring
(19:57):
him back, what does that mean about all that FCC talk,
It means that it was Disney's decision in the first place.
Disney's decision. In the last place, it is a private
company that is making this choice. Uh, now I wonder
what they're going to do here. And Clay, you understand
that I want you to lay this out for everybody
because I don't I don't follow the machinations of corporate
(20:21):
of the of the corporate suite of media as closely
as as you do. Right then, the mergers and acquisitions
and all that stuff. Uh, you know who owns who?
I still I have to remind myself who owns NBC again?
And who bought Paramount? And where's Viacom in all this?
And Discovery Channel is what? And you know these things
are always in flux. You have a very good handle
(20:43):
on that. You follow that stuff pretty closely. Before we
get into that, I would just point out though the
the oh my gosh, Jimmy Kimmel has been canceled. We
should all be so upset about this. And of course
Stephen Colbert and others were jumping on this bandwagon. The
guy from Ozark I saw him saying something about it.
What's his name Bateman, right, the actor Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman.
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He is actually I think he's a very good actor.
So It's always kind of a bummer when you see
somebody like, can't you just be the good actor and
not say the dumb things? But he spoke out on
They say, oh, look, people allowed to speak out on it.
I'm just alowed to say I I don't care and
their opinions are irrelevant. But Douglas Mackie, I'm not sure
who this fellow age? You see this he put out
on Twitter? This one very viral. Clay, I'm sorry, I
(21:28):
must have missed it. I haven't caught up in the
latest news. Did PayPal cancel Jimmy Kimmel's personal account, did
Chasin Bank of America shut down his account? Did Twitter
ban him? Did Facebook suspend him? Did Stripe shut him down?
Did the FBI open up an investigation into him? Did
protesters force him to evacuate his studio? Did they chase
him to his house and force him to evacuate that too?
(21:50):
Is there an entire ideology centered around the idea that
Jimmy Kimmel can't be allowed to speak anymore? Et cetera,
et cetera. He went into all of this, and I
just say, yeah, they're very of cancelation versus the so
called right wing version of cancelation are also very different things.
But you tell me there's more going on here even
than just is Jimmy Kimmel an unfunny jerk. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
My basic takeaway here is unless you advocated for Roseanne Barr,
and unless you advocated for Gina Carano, and I'm specifically
referencing Disney corporate decisions based on speech, then I don't
want to hear a word from you about Jimmy Kimmel.
Now I advocated aggressively for Roseanne bar I don't think
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anybody should be canceled for a tweet. I really don't
in the creative space, because I think it blows up
eventually on all of us. I even defended a guy
that I think is a total war on, Keith Olberman,
that has said all sorts of crazy things in my
opinion about Charlie Kirk. And I defend this company iHeart,
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which says, hey, we want to put out every single
type of audio known to man, just like in music.
I mean, leave aside political opinions. Some of you may
really care a ton about rap music, others of you
hate it. Some of you love country music, some of
you love classical music. I heart provides it all right,
we should. I think the company give everybody every option
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out there, a big buffet of audio choices, and you
should be able to dive into it. Even if I
think people like Keith Olberman or moronic, and I think
on his podcast, I'm pretty sure he called me a
white supremacist.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You can say a lot. Sure he's called me. He's
called me tug sex butt, which is very mean, exactly
to his credit. That's actually pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But my point on it is, even inside of the
same company, there are people that are taking shots at us,
and I'm totally fine with it because there may be
some of you may find this shocking.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
There may be people who don't like Buck or me,
even though I think they have awful taste. It's very
search and my mom and Buck's mom we just didn't
understand how you could ever have that opinion, but some
people do. Does your mom still kind of want to
fight everybody who doesn't like you online? Because my mom
totally does too. It's such a mom thing. I'm like,
don't worry about a mom. She's like, I will finish them.
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I told you.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
About when I first started writing that my mom got
in the mentions underneath my articles to defend me. Oh yeah,
back in two thousand and five, like twenty some odd
years ago, I was writing and they started to allow
all the mentions underneath you know, articles, and my mom
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created an account and went in and was defending me,
and uh, I think it was I think it was
my sister. She was like, Hey, just so you know,
Mom is in the comment.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Your mom is a great lady in the mom My
mom would totally do the same thing, by the way,
like if she hasn't done it, she totally would, because
you know, it's we're always there, little boy, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
An account to respond to people saying mean things about
me in the comments underneath my articles.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I had to call. I was like, Mom, you
know this is great, but it's going to turn into
a story if you're in the comments all the time.
Ten Clay anecdote like this is up there with the
zero people showing up to the book signing, like this
is a great Clay story. I like this a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, Mom was in the comments and well, you know,
and just defending me. You know, like my son is
a really I mean, it's really, I mean, every mom
out there can appreciate it. And I was like, Mom,
I appreciate it, but you can't do this because it's
going to turn into a big story in the years
ahead if you're always in the comments fighting with people.
And I've seen this from other moms sports message boards.
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Every now and then, somebody's mom, you know, the kids
getting attacked because not playing quarterback or whatever. Well enough,
and mom will just go out And I want to
give her credit because I thought this was really funny.
More of Rutledge super talented ESPN employee, did an interview
recently where she said her husband Josh, who was a
baseball player, played for the Red Sox other teams, major
(26:09):
League Baseball player, really talented guy that people would would
rip him, and she created a burner account.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
She came clean. She was like, I just I had
a burner account on social media where I would just
go in and defend my husband because people would be like, oh,
he went eight over four, and she's like, did you
see the great catch that he made in center field? Which,
again I think sometimes what we do is harder on
the periphery the people who are not us, than it
(26:37):
is us ourselves. Much like if you are an athlete
on the field and it's a stressful moment in a game.
You will often say, yeah, I didn't feel the stress
because you controlled the outcome in some way. But Mom
or dad, girlfriend, whoever it is, sitting in the crowd, sister,
brothers that they feel the intensity and the nervousness more
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than the person on the field.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think that's true for what we do too. And
I know the periphery, the p numbers surrounding us to
people and family feel that. But so that's a true story.
Mom probably listening right now. I appreciate her stepping in
now on your point on media. I love all this stuff.
And again, if you didn't defend Roseanne, if you didn't
defend Gina Corano when Disney canceled both despite the fact
(27:23):
that they had far more successful shows they were a
part of. In the Roseanne show whatever it was called,
the Connors, I think, and in The Mandalorian, which at
the time was the most popular show on Disney Plus,
and I'm told from my kids and my wife who
watch it was fantastic, really good show.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
They canceled Gina Corano. I don't want to hear a
word about Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But I think what's being actually at play here Buck
that nobody's talking about. There's multiple different media angles. First
of all, Disney is trying to buy the NFL network.
In order to buy the NFL network, they're gonna have
to get Trump approved. I think Bob Iger saw this
saw an opportunity to just curry favor with the Trump
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administration by benching Jimmy Kimmel, potentially kicking him to the curb.
I don't think it was about Kimmel at all. I
think it's about the NFL. Other part, Next Star and.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Sinclair are two major affiliate groups of ABC. A lot
of people think, oh, if I watch ABC that's owned
most of us actually watch on an affiliate station my
for instance, ABC affiliate in Nashville is owned by Nextstar.
I think those guys are also trying to curry favor
(28:40):
over some of the decisions that are going to be
made by the Trump administration over the next few years,
and they see it as an opportunity to curry favor
by kneecapping Jimmy Kimmel as well. So while everybody's focused
on Jimmy Kimmel and what he said, which was wrong,
and which I think that he should have to apologize
for the way that it was conveyed because it wasn't
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a joke, it was the background of a joke. And
so but I think this is the bigger story that's
going on, is there is a desperate desire for the
Disney Corporation to buy the NFL network. They want to
get Trump approval, and then I think also the affiliates
are seeking Trump approval as well, and Jimmy Kimmel in
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that way is just kind of a just kind of
a random anti Trump zellot that they don't really they're
not committed to because they're making no money on okay,
But final answer here, are they bringing Jimmy Kimmel back.
It's a big decision. I think they will. They will.
I think they will as well, and I think that
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that's going to show a lot of bad faith to
people that feel like Disney finally did something to show
respect to the half the country that Disney has been
effectively from a corporate level spitting on for a long
time now. Yep, I think Disney is playing with fire
here more than they are.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I agree with you, and I think Disney has managed
to put themselves in a position where they may well
be boycotted in both directions simultaneously.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes, because everybody that's right when you don't.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
This is a great line from Charles Barkley and uh
and and I think it's it's great lesson for life.
No matter what you do, if you worry about trying
to make the people who don't like you like you,
then the people who do like you won't like you anymore.
And so much of social media is trying to make
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people who don't like you, oftentimes operating in poor and
bad faith, like you.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And if you worry about that, if you worry.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
About that, then you're going to end up in a
situation where the people who do like you and respect
you will no longer like and respect you either. And
I think Disney, frankly, Bob Iger has he made too
really good decison. He bought Marvel, he bought the Star
Wars and then and Pixar, a three good decisions. Basically
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since then he's been an awful CEO. You go look
at Disney stock and I bet a lot of you
own it. It hasn't gone up in a decade, a
full decade. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars as CEO.
I think he's destroyed the brand to a large extent
that Disney built. And I don't think that he has
tended to create great content. He's become more political than creative,
(31:33):
and that's a bad combination.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I also just think to what you were saying a
moment ago and about the sage, the advice from mister Barkley, Yeah,
which I would I would say that that's very, very true.
Part of being an adult. I think part of maturing
is just understanding that people are going that You're going
to have people dislike you for reasons that you should
(31:58):
be proud of, and therefore it shouldn't bother you. All. Like,
people are going to be mad at you for telling
the truth, and you have to embrace that. And I
mean that in a very general sense. I mean that
in your day to day life, not just in politics.
People will be mad at you for saying what is true,
will be mad at you or not like you for
calling them on their stuff or refusing to play their games,
or whatever it may be. If everybody likes you, you
(32:22):
are not doing what you need to do. That is
another truism of life. I'll tell you one other thing.
Make the circle that people that you care about small.
And that's going to sound mean, but what I mean
is if you can't control anything like I care. And
I say this all the time about my three boys
and my wife, that's in my household, that's the things
(32:44):
that I'm directly involved in. I can't control a lot
of what everybody else does. And so much of life.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Is focused on people that you have no ability to
actually try to make good choices. You worry about, you
get concerned about, and you can't You don't have any
an ability to impact it.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Like when your boys said that you were an unk
for wearing quarter length socks. Let me tell you I'm
in the blast radius of that enough that whenever now
I go through my drawer, I find those socks that
are low. No. I don't want to be an unk,
don't I don't want the Travis boys to find out
that I'm dressed like that. So you know what I'm saying,
You got to pay attention to who you pay attention to.
The boys light me up all the time for being
(33:24):
an UNK, and I just look around and I'm like,
you know, unks are right about a lot. And that's
why I'm fine taking the shrapnel here for being an
old guy who wants things to not change. There you go.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We got a bunch of different clips that I want
to make sure that we get to to kind of
update you on how everything is going out there.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
And I've sent a couple in. Let me pull them
up to see exactly what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
First play a clip of Harry Inton we are not
that far away, one year away from the election taking
place in the midterms. And here is what CNN's Harry
Inton says, Republicans are advantaged by. Let's listen to that cut.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
So what are we seeing, you know, Donald Trump being
underwater Democrats and all this guarantees us we're gonna fly
high in the midtrans Let me tell you this guarantees
you nothing. Nothing because at this particular point, the Democrats
are the New Orleans Saints of political parties. What are
we talking about, trust the Dems or GOP? More on
the economy? Who leads on the economy Republicans by seven Immigration,
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Republicans by thirteen. How about crime? A big issue for
Donald Trump? And the Republicans look at that lead by
twenty two points. So the bottom line is this, at
this particular point, the ball may be on the ground,
but the Democrats have not picked up the ball.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I'm running with it. If anything, at.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
This particular point, it's the Republicans who are running with
the ball on the top issues the economy, immigration, and crime.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay, so that is out there worth paying attention to.
As we said, about fourteen months away from the midterms
taking place, I also wanted to play this because Buck,
you talked about it, and there was the report from
Mary Margaret Olahan at the Daily Wire came out on
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Friday afternoon that the individual who tried to kill Supreme
Court Justice Kavanaugh in the Washington, DC area, this would
be assassin, was motivated by the fact that he wanted
to overturn the overturning of Roe v.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Wade.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That is, he wanted to kill a justice. Why this
is so important and I feel like it's totally been
snowed under you mentioned it. We still have no idea
who specifically leaked to this opinion, but the goal was
to put pressure on Republicans and potentially meaning Republican appointees
on the Court and potentially get one of these individuals killed. Remember,
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Democrats had control of the Senate and they had control
of the White House, So if the Brett Kavanaugh assassin
had succeeded, this was a draft opinion. It doesn't become
law until there is actually the release of the opinion.
So if you kill a Supreme Court justice, you get
a new one appointed. The outcome of this case could
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have potentially been changed based on assassin goals, and I
believe we have audio, if somebody will share me the number,
but that was just discussed by the White House Press
briefing with Caroline Levitt thirty four.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Let's play that and then I'll get you to react
as well.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Buck, Charlie's killer lived with his boyfriend who identifies as transgender.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
And then we have the Annunciation shooting, the Covenant shooting, all.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Of these incidents.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
The President said that we're looking into transgender violence.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Does that mean the FBI is looking into it?
Speaker 8 (38:29):
And can you give any more clarity on how the
administration is viewing this of taking specifically transgender violence. It's
definitely something worth looking into, and I think anyone who
denies that at this point is being willfully ignorant, and
the administration is taking it seriously. All causes of violence
and why these people would be driven to such evil
and such hatred, and there's probably many answers to that question,
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but the administration is really focused on all of them
for individual investigations. In cases, of course, the FBI and
the Department of Justice are eating those.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Okay, so this would be assassin also trans So Buck,
you just heard that question. The extent the audio wasn't great.
Minneapolis trans shooter, Nashville trans shooter, the it would be
Brett Kavanaugh assassin, trans shooter, and the person who just
assassinated Charlie Kirk living with a trans person and motivated
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in some way by trans related issues. Seems kind of
like a significant trend just in the last year of
outrageous levels of trans violence.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Well, you have people who are disproportionately in let's just say,
in need of mental health assistance. That's that's part one
of this. It used to be that transgenderism was considered
something that alone was grounds for serious mental health treatment,
and now we've reached an era where there has to
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be not only affirmation of it, but celebration of it.
And if you don't go along with that. As we
have seen in the press for years now, there are
these really wild claims about like the transgenocide, you know,
the effort clay just to stop the surgeries and hormone giving.
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It's mostly hormone giving, but sometimes surgery too, and these
clinics that are doing this in places around the country.
That has been responded to by the pro trans community
with a complete outrage, Like the notion that you wouldn't
want a twelve year old or a fourteen year old
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to start taking puberty blockers. They can't answer these questions
like what are the long term studies on first of all,
will this make this person actually feel better? Long term
studies than that if you really look at it, very
poor What are the long term health implications of this?
Very poorly understood? And yet they push all of this
and they still don't really know what to say about
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I mean, this has cut twenty Clay. This is Abigail Spanberger,
who's supposed to be the great moderate hope of the
Democrat Party in Virginia, right, the sort of a throwback.
Mostly I think she's just boring and doesn't really stand
for anything that's their version of a moderate. Here she
is saying, well, I'll let you listen to her on
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the trans issue play twenty.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Do you support biological males who say they're women using
women's locker rooms and bathrooms and competing in women's sports.
Speaker 10 (41:31):
Well, the circumstance as this legal case plays out is
really one of we've had court cases settled or judged
here in Virginia in the fourth District, the former Gavin
Grim case related to bathroom usage, and in fact the
argument is the assessment is. There needs to be much
clearer guidance in terms of what is an executive orders
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binding assessment of Title nine versus what has been a
decision of a court.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Do you personally support these policies?
Speaker 9 (42:02):
You personally support them, But do you support these locker
room or bathroom policies? Congresswoman? Why can't you answer this
question directly? Congresswoman? Congress women, do you support these bathroom
and locker room than you? Why can't you answer these
questions directly?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
We know why, and she won't, And I'm dizzy from
her answer that was that was a remarkable, uh, series
of just non sequiturs and spewing nonsense.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
This is what media should do. I don't know, guys,
can you give me the guy's name who asked that question.
There's no reason to be a media figure if you're
going to ask questions that no one wants to know
the answer to. And sometimes that non answer is more
revealing than an actual answer would be. This is how
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broken the Democrat Party is. If you ask me, should
men be able to compete in women's sports? I would say,
of course not. Ninety nine percent of you listening to
us right now hecket, maybe one hundred percent would say
no doubt. What does it say about the Democrat Party
that that answer, which is all just gobblygook and designed
(43:16):
to distract from the question itself, is basically the standard tenant.
By the way, give him credit. I don't know what
else he's ever done, so I'm not endorsing everything he's
ever done. I feel like you need to say that.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But that is.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
WJLATV reporter Nick Minnock. So that's the person who followed up.
That's the person asking this question to me. If I
lived in Virginia, this would be enough for me to
vote single handedly against Abigail Spamberger. I don't know anything
else about her positions. But if you will not honestly
tell me what you believe on this issue, how can
(43:52):
I trust you on anything. That's why I think this
issue of men and women sports is such a crucible marker,
because if you'll lie to me about this, I can't
trust you on anything else.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Well, this is also where Democrats find themselves, as we're
going to be getting ready for a midterm election here
constantly playing the game of well, I'm not one of
those Democrats. I'm some other Democrat. I'm not one of
the open borders trans guys in your daughter's locker room.
(44:22):
You know, go down the list of all these things.
Notice how I just want to point this out. When
was the last time you heard anybody talk about climate change?
Just to give you a sense of what a absolutely
manufactured delusion book plug climate change is. It was Clay
Obama gave a speech and I think it was the
Coastguard Academy. He said, the biggest national security threat we
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face is climate change. This was a and I understand
right now, Buck, why are you even wasting our time?
Who cares about climate change? Exactly a few years ago
it was the biggest thing that we all had to
be so worried about. Now it's absolutely nothing. Democrats are in.
The party is saying their ideas make no sense. And
here you have Chuck Schumer, who's one of a perfect
(45:06):
example of this. Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and these
others exist to pretend the Democrat Party today isn't what
it really is to fool older voters who just don't
know where is Where's Schumer?
Speaker 9 (45:18):
On?
Speaker 6 (45:18):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Donnie Clay, here you go listen to this play seventeen.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
Please, there are two key questions here that you haven't answered.
One is will you ever endorse him? And two what
do you need from him to get your endorsement?
Speaker 11 (45:35):
Okay, well, first of all, you know, I know him.
We've had a good relationship in the past, and we
had a good meeting two weeks ago, a very long
meeting with a lot of serious questions. And all I
can tell you is I'm going to continue talking to him.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
What's the hold up?
Speaker 11 (45:51):
I got to continue talking to him, and that's.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
What I'm going to do.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
Is part of the calculus that if you endorse a
Democratic socialist, you're worried it will be damaging to your
maybe they've been your chances of winning back the Senate.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I'm going to continue talking to him. Danny, you can
answer me again. I mean a CNN actually doing real
journalism for a second there. I was shocked by it,
but that's legitimate. She can see Clay, we can all
see it. The whole game here is people like Schumer
who have been in this game forever. They are at
the top of the Democrat power structure, but they have
(46:25):
to tell the general public that the Democrats are something
other than what they are, especially this up and coming
generation of lunatics.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, and this is why I've said, sorry, New York,
maybe Mam Donnie just is an awful mayor for you,
But I think that the premise of her question is accurate,
and so is the response of Chuck Schumer by trying
to dodge it. He's terrified that Mam Donni and AOC
(46:53):
are going to be seen as the face of the
Democrat Party in the midterms because overwhelming majorities of America
I think will reject them, and that's why he's trying
to dodge the question. But even see it in now
is on and starting to ask a little bit at
least basic questions that.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
That they're afraid to answer it. Sometimes somebody's afraid to
answer a question, say it's all about, you know, boiling
the frog slowly. AOC is a Democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders
a Democratic Socialist. They just they want to wait and
wait so that people, you know, don't really understand what's
going on and who's really calling the shots and what
kind of policies they really want to do. He just
(47:32):
doesn't want to say it out loud. He doesn't want
to tell people the truth Chuck Schumer about the direction.
I don't think the mom donnyism play is some fringe
thing Democrats are going to walk. I think that's what
the Democrat Party is. Well, Chuck Schumer's just there to
lie about that, and I think that's certainly what a
AOC believes, which is why I know you talked about this.
On Friday, Axios reported she's going to run for president probably.
(47:54):
I think she's definitely going to run for president. Oh
and I.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Think she sees herself as the heir to the Bernie
Sanders left of the party, and you can see that
with the way that she's been handling the attacking the
oligarchy tour when this is all very funny. They only
traveled via a private plane, and reports are AOC stayed
in one thousand.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Dollars a night hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I just some of this stuff, Like, I bet that
no one listening to us right now hardly. There may
be some billionaires out there that have stayed in one
thousand dollars a night hotel rooms, And there is just
no way that all you had to do was just
fly commercial first class. You can fly first class and
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just stay in normal hotel rooms. They want to live
like oligarchs, but they want to live like oligarchs while
being members of Congress and the Senate. Right, they want
all of the benefits that come with making a lot
of money without having made the money themselves. Instead, they
want the taxpayer to fund it, or they're donors to
fund it.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
That's the story of these people. Remember Tax the Rich.
When AOC showed up at the fifty thousand dollars per
ticket Mechala in her white Tax the Rich dress. I mean,
these people are such frauds.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
This coming week in New York City, Tunnel the Towers
Foundation having their annual Tunnel the Towers five k Run
and walk, held each year on the last Sunday of September.
What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and
two now considered one of the top five k runs
in the country, drawing forty thousand people last year. It
retraces firefighter Steven Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning
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his car, he ran with sixty pounds of gear from
the foot of the Battery Tunnel to the Twin Towers.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
He never made it out the five thousand. The five
K pays homage to the three hundred and forty three
FDNY firefighters, law enforcement officers, and thousands of civilians who
lost their lives on nine to eleven. Proceeds from the
event support the foundation's programs, including those benefiting first response unders,
catastrophically injured service members, and more. Producer Ali and Cash
(50:05):
Patel have done this event said it's one of the
most powerful and moving five k's they've ever participated in.
When you come out of the tunnel, they are firefighters,
service members lining the road holding photos of all those
we lost. To learn more about the event, go to
t twot dot org. You can also do what Buck
and I do. Donate eleven dollars a month a tunnel
the towers at t twot dot org. That's t the
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number two t dot org.
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