September 26, 2025 • 61 mins
Comey Indicted
The guys discuss the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey in Northern Virginia. Clay and Buck break down the charges, which include allegations of lying under oath to Congress during the Russia collusion investigation. They analyze the legal and political implications, the challenges of securing a conviction in a heavily Democratic jurisdiction, and the broader debate over a two-tiered justice system. The hosts emphasize that while the indictment is a major development, the likelihood of a conviction remains low due to jury bias and judicial hurdles. They also credit U.S. Attorney Lindsey Halligan for pushing the case forward despite resistance from career prosecutors.
Democrat Games
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the discussion kicks off with President Donald Trump’s comments on the looming government shutdown and the political battle over federal spending. Trump accuses Democrats of pushing for massive funding for illegal immigrants, tying the debate to Obamacare subsidies and rising healthcare costs. Clay and Buck dive deep into the broken state of the U.S. healthcare system, sharing personal stories that highlight the lack of price transparency, inflated insurance costs, and how illegal immigration strains emergency rooms and taxpayer resources. They argue that Democrats have intentionally created a system that forces Americans to subsidize healthcare for millions of undocumented migrants, driving up premiums and reducing care quality.
The hosts also analyze the political theater surrounding shutdown threats, predicting that despite the rhetoric, a deal will eventually be reached—but at the cost of even more government spending. They emphasize how Trump’s messaging power dominates the narrative, framing Democrats as defenders of open borders and taxpayer-funded benefits for non-citizens.
Jack Ciattarelli
Clay and Buck welcome Jack Ciattarelli, Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey, for an in-depth interview on one of the most competitive gubernatorial races in the country. Ciattarelli outlines his plan to cut taxes, lower electricity rates by exiting the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, end sanctuary state policies, and restore parental rights in education. He slams his opponent for ethics scandals, including undisclosed stock trades and misleading claims about her Naval Academy record, and criticizes her support for progressive policies like biological males competing in women’s sports and mandatory LGBTQ curriculum without parental opt-outs. Ciattarelli argues that Phil Murphy’s legacy of high taxes, rising crime, and failing schools has pushed New Jersey voters toward change, making this race a potential Republican breakthrough in a traditionally blue state.
The Next Governor of Florida
The show features an exclusive interview with Congressman Byron Donalds, a leading conservative voice and candidate for Governor of Florida. Donalds shares his personal journey from Democrat to Tea Party activist to U.S. Congressman, emphasizing his commitment to keeping Florida the “Free State.” He outlines his priorities as governor: reducing property taxes, stabilizing the insurance market, attracting manufacturing and tech jobs, and eliminating woke policies in schools. Donalds also addresses the looming government shutdown, blaming Senate Democrats for catering to the radical left, and reaffirms his support for law enforcement and parental rights in education.
The interview takes a personal turn as Donalds reflects on the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, praising his legacy in mobilizing young conservatives and defending Judeo-Christian values. The hour closes with lighter moments, including Donalds’ love for sports, his Florida State Seminoles predictions, and Clay and Buck’s banter about NFL picks and the Ryder Cup.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show coming
to you across the nation. Buck is in la I
am here in Nashville, and we are taking you into
what hopefully will be a fantastic weekend for all of you,
no matter what part of the country you are in.
President of the United States at the Ryder Cup. I
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don't know if you follow the Ryder Cup at all, Buck,
but it is taking place in New York City area,
and we are getting smoked early by the Euros, which
is not a good start competition between the European golfers
and the American golfers.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We are down three to one.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Some of the videos of Trump flying over the golf
course of the USA Chance, it's pretty awesome, and so
I know many of you are going to be following
this throughout the course of the weekend. Farmingdale, New York.
Buck is where Bethpage Black is hosting this. It's a
public course, Beth Page one of the great golf courses
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in America, and that is where Trump is going to be.
Would not surprise me. We've got some audio of Trump
speaking as he was boarding alongside of his granddaughter Kai,
who we met. Buck up at the Trump Course in
New Jersey at Bedminster before. She was a golfer who
is a college athlete now at the University of Miami.
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So they flew together to go to watch the tournament.
I bet a huge percentage of our audience is paying
attention here, Buck. Do you know anything about the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, But I want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Has President Trump ever seen the famous Clay Travis swing,
because I've seen it on video.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, he has lied and said that the Clay Travis
golf swing is good, which is a sign that Trump
is actually a really nice.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
A great man. He's a great guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
In fact, maybe we could grab I don't think we
played it, but producer Greg I'm sure saw it. Scotti Scheffler,
who is the best golfer in the world, talked about
out what Trump is like on his golf courses and
hanging out around the golf community. What's amazing is all
the euro golfers love him too. So this is going
to be Trump and his element. That is where he
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is right now now. He broke a couple of news
stories as he was about to board Marine one to
begin the process of flying up there this weekend. In fact,
He said that he thought they had potentially a deal
in Gaza, which would obviously be a huge deal if
we finally got a ceasefire nearly two years to the
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day after the October seventh terror attacks from Hamas. But
President Trump, not surprisingly, the biggest story, and we're going
to dive into this in detail and we will walk
you through everything is yesterday evening news broke that James Comey,
former FBI director, had been had been indicted. And here
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is Trump saying Coby lied. He lied a lot. Was
just a little bit earlier as he was flying to
the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Cut two.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was about justice. He lied, he lied a lot.
But this was a very important thing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
This was he could have said, well maybe or I
don't remember.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
He didn't say that.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
He gave a very specific answer, and then he verified
it numerous times and he got caught. The problem that
Komy has is he got caught.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Lying, and he was very strong.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
It's not like well maybe or I don't remember, or
he gave a very specific answer because it was a
very powerful question, a very important question. And when he
gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Okay, that's cut too here's cut four buck of Trump
again saying, this is not a hard case.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He lied. He didn't think he was going to get caught.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Cut for it's a pretty easy case because he lied.
You saw my truth today.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
He lied it. Yes, he didn't say well, in my opinion,
he didn't do a lot of things that maybe he
should have. But I don't think he could because he lied.
That was a very important question that he was in
and he wanted to be specific, but he didn't. The
only thing that.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Happened to him, he didn't think he'd get gone. That
was a very important answer, and it was very for him.
It was a very good answer if he didn't get gone,
but he got caught.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Lying to Congo.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, so charges now from northern Virginia. This is a
very blue area. We talked about this some yesterday Alexandria area.
Two different charges brought an indicted against Komy by the
grand jury. Buck, you covered this Russia mess way more
than me. What's your reaction.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, I think for a lot of people, the sense
is finally something has been done. Finally there could be
and I want to emphasize could there could be accountability
for the This is more than just the lies that
Comy told because the lies were in the service of
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the Russia collusion hoax. So the lies that Comy told,
and as Trump was hammering there, these are material lies, right,
these are lies that have meaning and significance. It's not oh,
in a three hour long FBI sit down, which, as
Clay has told you, never without a lawyer, never without
a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That that is the most whenever you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The FBI in the three hour long sit down, you
forgot what you had for breakfast last week, that you
would be able to argue even if it was untrue
and correct, it's immaterial. In this case, Trump has made
it clear it is quite material.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It is an.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Important issue of fact that he was lying about and
the lie was part of obstructing justice, which is why
that charge has also come to the forefront. But now
here's where we get to analyze what comes next to it.
So on the one hand, I think Clay, this this
needed to happen because there was a clear two tiered
system of justice at work and Comy I might has
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been a pioneer or on the forefront of that, and
a lot of people are pointing out myself included that
comy was far and away the guy who wanted Martha
Stewart prosecuted for what was really a he said she
said on a phone call with the broker about conduct
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that was not actually criminal. She did not actually do
anything illegal other than she said that they did that
he did. You know, she did say she was going
to sell or whatever it was. There were some dispute
over what was said on that phone call and the broker.
I think with the broker it was we'll say what
we want you to say, and you get to walk
clean and free.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right, that's easy. So people realize that Kmy.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Has been using it's you know, it's US code one
zero zero one is the line to the FBI statute
or it's really lying to federal agents, but the FBI
is the one that uses it the most. This this
is something that he's been a big proponent of. So
it feels like what's good for the goose is good
for the gander. That's part one of it. The other
thing is, as we love to say on the show,
the process is the punishment. And that's important to keep
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in mind here. The process is part of accountability. The
decision to prosecute is itself a punishment, which is why
prosecutors have such a fearsome level of power in this country,
because the decision to prosecute is usually a decision to destroy,
even if you're innocent. It's gonna cost you a ton
of money, it's going to hurt your reputation, all that stuff.
(07:28):
But now, Clay, we can get into and I know
you're going to have strong thoughts on this one.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You alluded to this. It's in Northern Virginia.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's at the judge is I think an Obama appointee, right, Yes,
Obama appoint e judge Northern Virginia, a roughly eighty percent
Democrat jurisdiction. At all it takes is one purple haired
hashtag resistance cat lady or guy who works at the
Commerce Department or whatever to say, I'm just not letting
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anybody who goes after Trump go to prison.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I don't care what for.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And at worse you get, you're at either a hung
jury or an acquittal. So I want everyone's expectations to
be kept in line here. I think it's the right
move because it's what's true and what the statutes require.
But I don't know if we're gonna get to a conviction.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm impressed that they got a grand jury indictment. They
got two of them. They reportedly brought three. One was
struck down and not given the indictment. Two of the
three were. But what Buck just hit is the key.
I mean, this is what I've been saying, and I
understand people get upset that I even talk about it.
We're playing with a rigged justice system by being required
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to get indictments in DC area cases that are predicated
on blue strongholds. Democrats will indict Republicans for anything. We
have a ninety five to five in Washington, DC. To
Buck's point, it's probably eighty twenty seventy five twenty five
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in northern Virginia, and so I think there's gonna be
at least one juror who refuses to convict no matter
what the evidence shows. It wouldn't shock me, Buck if
this Obama and pointed judge finds a reason to toss
these indictments. I think you have to prepare yourself for
the fact that you are not on an even playing field.
(09:25):
From a sports analogy, you're starting off and the scoreboards
already got you down twenty one points. Before you even
snapped the ball. And I think this is the right result.
I give credit to the prosecutors.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The son in law.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of Komi was in the northern district of virgin Did
you see this? He resigned. The son in law is
inside of the office. I mean, this is one of
the craziest things I've ever seen. Now, I'm sure they
tried to wall him off, I would think from being
involved in investigating his father in law. But the fact
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that this guy is employed there is a sign of
how deep the swamp is, wasn't it, Marie Comy. He's
employed in New York, in the most important federal district there.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
These people's the one who messed up the ditty case.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And then she got forced out and now I think
she's suing or something like that. These people, man, they
rig the system in so many different ways to have
their allies.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And here is what I've said. For a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You've been on this, but I think the average person
has just become aware of it. Violent crime is relatively
easy to prosecute.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
In theory.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
If you run up to somebody with a gun and
you rob them, it's pretty self evident that a crime happened.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
If a dead body.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Shows up with bullet holes and or stab wounds or something,
is a pretty good sign that a murder happened. Where
these prosecutors have all their power is I guarantee you
everyone listening out there who thinks that they have led
an upstanding life and never done anything wrong. If a
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federal prosecutor decided to investigate you and spend a year
going through every tax return you've ever filed, and spent
a year asking you to sit down for every interview
and examined every property transfer you've ever been involved in,
ever employment contract you've ever signed, they would find a way.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
To prosecute you.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And that is where the will and the power of
the state has been marshaled. It was used against Trump,
and now we'll see if Komi can be convicted of crimes.
But spare me all the hand ringing. We told you
this when they crossed the rubicon and indicted Trump in
New York, in Georgia, in Florida, and in DC. The
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gloves were officially off. All of that came at the
direct behest of Joe Biden. So spare me the Oh
my goodness, our republic is now being challenged. If you
didn't say a war when they came after Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's very straightforward for me. Did he break the law?
And you know what's interesting is that there used to
be this presumption I think of, oh, well, because of
the politics involved, maybe we let this one slide. I'm
not saying I agree with that presumption. I'm just saying, oh,
the former FBI director, it's bad. It's a bad look
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for all of us if you were to go after
somebody like that. And then they went after a former
president and current president now four times with absolute garbage prosecutions.
So they crossed the rubicon over and over. I mean,
the rubicon doesn't even exist anymore. They've erased the rubicon,
all right. They pushed so that there's no more political
question overriding a legal question, and in fact, I would
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argue they took it even further where they fabricated a
legal issue in the service of politics. What I'm saying here, Clay,
is if Comy broke the law, laws, the law he
presided over plenty of prosecutions. Remember, he was a US
attorney previously before he was at the FBI.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He's really a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
He's not like a g man FBI guy for his career.
He was a lawyer and a very politically, you know,
maneuverable one in the Justice Department and then eventually found
himself all the way at the head of the FBI.
He sent plenty of people to prison for exactly this
lying in the course of an investigation, and he would
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have sent Donald Trump to prison for Heavin knowsway. He
was the one who orchestrated and we played that audio
for everybody yesterday, the destruction and prosecution actually you know,
the career destruction and prosecution of General Michael Flynn. And
he thinks it's funny. So you know what, I think
this is funny. I think Komy should have to lawyer up.
I think it's a fair prosecution based upon the facts
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presented in the case. And I think that we now
have to have one system of justice for all of
us to operate under. And you know, they're the ones
that pushed into the Lavrenti Bear Carriot category. You know,
the old head of the NKVD, which people think of
as the KGB, but it was called the NKVD, who
said you show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
They did that to Trump. They fabricated crimes. This is
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Comy broke the law. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, and look, somebody broke the law for sure. Because
if you compare, and if you want to get into
the nitty gritty, and maybe we will a bit, if
you compare the testimony, I think it was Senator Ted
Cruz who really kind of went at the details here.
If you compare the testimony relating to Russia collusion about
whether or not there was any instruction to leak information.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
One, I think it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Was McCabe testified, yes, there was an instruction to leak information. Uh,
and then Comy says, no, there was no instruction. We'll
both can't be telling the truth. So someone is lying
and we know there was a leak.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So how someone either one of them spending six months
in a minimum security federal federal prison or federal camp
as I think they called. Sometimes seems like it could.
It seems like it could be a fair outcome. Will
it happen? I think that's different. That's not very likely,
but we'll see. But there also could be other indictments,
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which we should talk about here in a second.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's big news. Comy indicted finally he's such a punk. Honestly,
I really you know that the emailer yesterday was like
buckets fired up about Comy because Clay I was following
the Russia collusion thing very very closely, and the President
was retweeting a lot of my assessments of what was
going on with the Russia collusion, and Komy was an
absolute dirt bag over the whole thing. All right, Look,
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's dive into some of the shall we so?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
President Trump spoke about a few things this morning talking
to reporters. We heard him say that to no Acomi
lied liedlide. There's a lot of that. Few other things
that he got into as well. For example, on the
shutdown issue, I want to talk about this is the
government going to shut down?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
If it does shut down, it won't be shut down
for very long. Generally, these shutdown talks end up being
something along the lines of a political food fight, and
then there's some kind of agreement last minute and they
keep the government going. Maybe this time is different, but
this morning Trump spoke to reporters about it. This is
cut one, and I think everybody should hear what Democrats
(17:13):
are drawing a hard.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Line in the sand on play one.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Everything's going good. We're respected by every nation in the world,
and you know what happened. The Democrats want to shut
it down, and they want to shut it down because
they want to give pinions, ultimately trillions of dollars to
illegal migrants, people that came into our country illegally.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Some of those people are.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Criminals, but they came into our country illegally, and they
want to give them the essential over the years, trillions
of dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
And our people aren't going to stand for it.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
They also want to have open borders, they want to
have men and women's sports, they want to have transgender
for everybody.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
These people are crazy, the Democrats. So if it has
to shut down, they'll have to shut down. But they're
the ones that are shutting down.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Clay, this is this is a very important issue because
this is where Democrats, i think, once again, are going
to be exposed. The the issue that he's talking about
here has to do with the funding of Obamacare, Obamacare
subsidies healthcare in general, and how much money is going
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to illegal immigrants who are not We were promised, if
everyone recalls, not supposed to get any federal funding at
all for health care, because then it's quite clear this
would be us providing healthcare to the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean, at that point, it just should just be.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You want to fly here from Bangladesh, you want to
fly here from from Bolivia, and just countries that start
with B. We'll get your you know, you'll get your heart,
you'll get your heart transplant, You'll get whatever you need here,
and the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And the hook Ford.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Meanwhile, Americans have seen their health care costs. Your premiums
have doubled, and your care is actually no better, If anything,
it has gotten worse. Obamacare is a straight up failure,
but the Democrats want it's a failure at everything other
than telling people they are covered as a ruse to
get them to subsidize everybody else's health care while theirs
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gets more expensive and worse. So there's Affordable Care Act
subsidies set to expire at the end of this year,
and Republicans are saying that, look, we got to look
at where this money's actually going. The more people look
at this and pay attention, Clay, the more they'll see.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
If you feel like you're paying too much everyone.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
For mortgages, for gas, for food, for whatever, everything's gotten
more expensive. For your own health care, Oh, you're subsidizing
millions of illegals as well, by the way, and when
you look at this, when you dig into the numbers,
that becomes even more clear.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Even no matter what your politics are, health care is broken.
And Obamacare broke healthcare worse than it was already broken.
And I've got so many thoughts on this. We've talked
about it. You just had a baby, Buck, your wife
Carrie did. This is when I was just done with healthcare,
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when we were having our first son. I wanted to
know what it was going to cost, as one does
to have a to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Have a baby.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And we went around and toured, as probably many of
you have done, a variety of different places, you know,
delivery hospitals probably not the correct phrase for it, but
the place is where you go to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
This is one of the things that you could choose, right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's not emergency room care, it's not oh my goodness,
well you've got to get in an ambulance.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It is okay, we know the baby's coming. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
We'll go tour all of these different hospitals and we'll
all check out, and my wife's going to pick out
where she wants to go at every one of them,
I said, what is the baby going to cost? None
of them could tell me. They don't compete at all
on price. They compete on bamboo floors and Wi Fi
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and what the reception area is going to be like
and what kind of meals they have, But they don't
tell you what any of it costs. How many other
things in life do you have where you don't go
to a buy a car and go tour a car
lot and say, okay, well what's the Rolls Royce cost?
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But maybe I want to get a used suv instead
of the Rolls Royce. To me, the reason why healthcare
is broken is because there is almost no market based
component to it, even when it is healthcare by choice,
not health care by emergency. So that's me on the soapbox.
And really that was the first time where I just
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couldn't get over the fact that none of these hospitals
could give me any idea what having a baby was
going to cost there because I would have potentially I'm
not gonna risk my family's health over it. But if
one of them, if they're otherwise relatively equal, and one
of them is gonna cost me ten thousand dollars more
than another, then I would save the ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They couldn't tell me. And the reason they couldn't tell
me is because insurance is so broken they have no
idea and it might cost more or less. Here's another
story for you on that front, Buck, As Dad's probably
out there, may well nod along. I am not the
best at getting our kids in for any healthcare appointment.
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I often screw things up. I can't remember where my
insurance card is. We had two kids get strapped through.
It happens. You're gonna find this out, Buck. When you
get multiple kids, one kid gets sick, basically it just
runs through the whole family. Everybody ends up getting sick.
So we had simultaneously two different kids that ended up
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with strep throat. My wife took the first kid, went
to the clinic Vanderbilt University walk in clinic sponsored whatever
it is relatively close to our home, got the strep
throat diagnosis, got the treatment. A day or two later,
another kid comes down with it. Dad's now in charge.
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So she presented accurately, as moms often do. Here is
our insurance card. Here are all the details associated with
what you need in order to treat this child. I
showed up. I'm like, I don't know where my healthcare
card is. I'm not sure exactly know who our healthcare
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provider is. I am, frankly like many dads of moron
and all this stuff took him in. He also has
strep throat. Gave him the test. We got billed, and
my wife could gives you the exact dollar specifics on this.
Somehow I was classified as without health insurance at Vanderbilt
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because I was a moron and I couldn't figure out
where the health insurance card is and I couldn't even
figure out who our health insurance was. It costs nothing,
virtually buck. My wife got the bill, it was like
twenty bucks. The kid with health insurance cost hundreds of dollars.
And my wife said, wait a minute. These are within
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the same day, basically within a couple of days of
each other, within forty eight hours trips to the exact
same clinic. My husband went in, couldn't remember where his
health care card was, basically had to pay nothing. We're
having to pay hundreds of dollars for this other visit.
How is that possible? She got on the phone with
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the hospital insurance adjuster everybody else. Eventually, the hospital said, yeah,
when you don't have health insurance, we don't charge you
very much for health care. But she said, well, wait
a minute. That means that you're overcharging everybody who does
have health insurance a massive amount to subsidize the people
without health insurance. And they were like, yeah, that's just
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what we do here. So you're actually better off in
this particular location being a moron like I was and
just going in and basically saying, you don't have health
insurance and you pay like twenty dollars or you pay
hundreds of dollars if you actually have health insurance.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The market is broken. Well, you say it's broken. It's
broken if you believe that it should be a market.
It's functioning the way that the Democrats wanted to in
so far as you're paying for everybody else, including illegals.
I might add, illegals who use emergency rooms as frontline
day to day medical care cannot be turned away and
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will not be charged. It's why you have to wait hours.
If you ever go to an emergency room and you
actually have an emergency, you're probably gonna sit there forever.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And anyway, I think that's broken. Also, Buck, nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
About government shutdowns anymore. We're just over it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
The idea that they tried, the political media tries to
gin up. Oh this is a huge story. Oh my goodness,
spoiler alert. Here's how it's going to end. We're going
to go further in debt, and they're going to eventually
reach a conclusion.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So here's one little interesting addition to the usual shutdown talk.
One is, if Democrats find themselves in a place where
the people of this country figure out that this really
is about just a massive slush fund that is our
healthcare system that is going to they say it doesn't
go to illegals.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It does.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
A lot of it does go to illegals, by the way.
That's one part of this. Another part of this, though Clay,
is that there may be layoffs if the government shuts
down after October first, that may be a moment of
opportunity to do more of the federal government cuts that
the administration has wanted to do all along. In essence,
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one of the problems that they've run into in the
post Doge advisory era is if Congress has funded these jobs,
can they still get rid of these jobs. If Congress
has said no, we're funding the following government jobs, can
the executive branch you know, this has been a back
and forth and they're you know, the courts are involved.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, if the money runs out for.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The job, why can't the executive branch cut the job
because there's no money for the job anymore. Right that,
So there is this possibility that will open up I
think a job's cutting moment in time for the federal bureaucracy,
which which could I think be interesting as well. But overall,
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this is once again going to result in the government
will will be fund Here you go, this is Trump
yesterday said this, this is cut thirty three. He's making
it very clear what he thinks is at the core
of the issue, or at the core of the shutdown fight.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Right now play thirty three.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Well, this is all caused by the Democrats. They asked
us to do something that's totally unreasonable.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
They never change.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
They want to give money away to illegals, illegally, people
that entered our country illegally. They want to give them
massive federal money. And we don't want to do that
because it means everyone's going to just keep pouring back,
right now.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
We have absolutely perfect borders.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Like you haven't seen in many years, even better than
the I had great borders during my four years. But
these borders are stone coll floats. You can only come
into our country legally now. But the Democrats want to
give it all away. They want to also, they want
to open up the borders. Take a look at that.
It's a big thing. They want to open borders again.
After what we're going through now, getting rid of prisoners,
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getting rid of all of these people dropped out from
mental institutions, drug dealers, drug addicts, everything that they're putting
everybody into our pack.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's all ended now.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
But this is what Schumer wants, This is what the
Democrats want.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Clay One difference as well in the shutdown debate, nobody
on the other side can match Trump when it comes
to the megaphone, and so he's able to get He's
pounding these messages in a way that Chuck Schumer is
not able to counter.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And again I just come back to I don't think
anybody cares the the overall shut down dynamic. Eventually there
is going to be some form of resolution. I don't
Usually you're the cynic here, I'll be the cynic cynic
and we're going to end up spending way more money
than we should, and they're just going to keep right
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on rolling along.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, that is all. The government's gonna keep spending too
much money, that's all for sure, and that's baked into it.
And everyone's not all of a sudden gonna wake up
and be like I to him with Ran Paul, and
we should go to pre COVID spending. It would be nice.
That's not gonna happen. But this is a moment, you know,
there's the highlighting of these issue shoes where people can clay.
If between now and September, first, a lot of Americans
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figure out that the Democrats are hell bent on keeping
funding for illegal health care for illegals to get health care.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
We got an election in a year, you know, I
think that these things can.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Be important on this and and look, I think everyone
is forcing them to protect to defend issues where they're
getting hammered.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
As the point.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, and again, I think it just comes back to
I think one hundred percent of Americans believe that healthcare
is one hundred percent broken in this country. And so
the idea that we are spending any money on non Americans.
Is a really difficult to argue. This is this is
where you and I see this a little differently. I
think people have no idea.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
When you say it's broken, yeah, that's true, but it's
like saying our immigration system is broken. The Democrats have
broken it for a reason, on purpose to do things,
and so people need to understand, Like you laid out
what you just talked about Clay, where that you can't
find out the pricing and everything else. Democrats like Schumer
want that so that ten million plus illegals thirty million
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paid for.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, yes, I just think they don't understand basic economics.
They think that everything should be free. And honestly, the
fact that I could, I could do weeks on this
because how about the idea that we've created, this idea
that healthcare should be paid for by employers, Well, it's
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Doesn't make sense. There's this huge, huge problems with it.
But the more people realize that your super expensive premiums,
look at what they are now, look at what they
were ten years ago. And that's if you've got nice healthcare.
You know, from your employer. Never mind if you're in
like one of these Obamacare pools for the individuals. Look
at what it costs you, look at your access to
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
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One of the big elections that is going to be
determined in this November cycle is who's gonna be the
governor of New Jersey, the Garden State place near and
dear to my heart. As a lifelong New Yorker, it's
like our close cousin next door. I feel like I'm
like an honorary New Jersey And in so many ways
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and we've got We've got the man who is trying
to make sure that it does not fall deep into
communist hands. Jack Chinarelli is with us now. He is
the Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey. Jack, appreciate
you being with us.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Thank you for the time. Guys looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Look, you had a great run back in twenty twenty one,
just a few points from beating Phil Murphy, and you
know we were talking about it then, we were giving
you the high five. I know it was too much
to ask in that cycle to pull it off, but
she came very close.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It was a heroic finish.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Nonetheless, this time around, mister Jack, I'm seeing polls with
you dead even maybe even a couple points ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Can you pull it off?
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Need?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What do we need to know about this race? That
it is a dead heat right now?
Speaker 9 (34:47):
And that's really good news for Republican I mean, we
are the minority party in the state, but we're going
to continue to get out there over the last thirty
nine days make it happen. And when you see Democratic
mayors across the state endorsing Mike Candidsey, I think it
only reaffirms that people across the state have had it
with film Murby sale policies, and they know that my
opponent is Murphy two point zero.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
What should people who want you to win. We've got
a big audience all over New Jersey. What should they
know to do? What should they know about when early
voting starts? How to donate? Give us your pitch right now?
You said, I think thirty nine days out. What needs
to happen in the next thirty nine days. What should
people listening to us right now do to support you.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
The vote by mail ballots have already been mailed. They
went out last week. So if you're a vote by mail,
vote by mail ballot voter, we want you to get
that in. There'll be nine days of early voting leading
up to election day and then of course Tuesday the fourth.
But what differentiates me from my opponent is Cheda Relly's
have been here for one hundred years and three generations
of Cheddar rallies of a loving business owners and created
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jobs read here in New Jersey. My opponent hasn't been
here all that long, and she spent appetizer's been here
in the Congress and during that time tripled her net
worth and broke federal law and stock trades and stock
reporting for congress people.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Now, what would you Let's let's before we get into
what she would do other than apparently make a lot
of money in the stock market on some defense stocks
that she doesn't remember. You know, it's seven million here,
seven million there.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, that's a second.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
When Charlemagne, the god to Buck's Point can ask her,
how did you make seven million dollars and she says
I don't know basically, or she had no idea how
she made it. I think that's pretty tough for most
New Jerseyans out there to say, you know, I think
i'd know if I made seven million dollars.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
It's a disqualifier. Who wouldn't know if they're net worth
it triples in such a short period of time, who
wouldn't know where an additional seven million dollars came from.
Here's what we do know. She broke federal law and
had to pay fines for it as a congress person. Well,
here's what else is something we know? The New York
Times reports while she was sitting on the House Armed
Services Committee, she was trading defense stocks. I mean, this
(36:58):
really calls into question her character, as does the stunning
revelation of yesterday that she didn't participate in the graduation
ceremonies at the Naval Academy back in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
And now we saw that story about the Naval Academy
and we talked about it yesterday with our friend Ryan Gardusky.
What is that story? I think it was from nineteen
ninety four, and why does it matter to you? How
does it connect to her today?
Speaker 9 (37:23):
She's built her entire political brand around the fact that
she attended the Naval Academy, but she hasn't been transparent
with us. The Naval Academy punished her, and we believe
it's for lying, and so she did not get to
participate in her graduation ceremonies. She can clear this all
up by approving the release of her disciplinary records. She's
(37:46):
not doing that, and I think that tells us a
whole lot. And for her to say that, what she's
been saying out there in the public, I think it's
code for having lied to the investigators. Quite frankly, she's
saying that she covered for her friends. Who did she
I think that's code for lying to investigators.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Now we got a lot of wo r which is
our New York City based affiliate. Obviously that signal is
huge all across particularly the northern half of the Garden.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It reaches well beyond that.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
We have a lot of listeners who are commuters into
New York City who listen on w or Jack, and
so they're very interested to know what are you going
to do if you become governor? To make what is
I'm from Manhattan, so we like to make you know.
The occasional give a little ribbing to New Jersey. But
I love New Jersey. It is a great state, beautiful state,
a lot of things going for it. What are you
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going to do to take New Jersey to the next level,
either problems to fix or just things to focus on
in the future. If you are in fact able to
pull off this very very photo finished governor's.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Race, we are going to pull it off.
Speaker 9 (38:51):
And there's a number of things we're gonna do, including
those things on day one. But here's one thing I'm
never gonna do is lie to the people in New Jersey.
This laughable, illegitimate, feasible plan that she's put forth to
declare a state emergency to freeze our electricity rates. Why
would we want to freeze them at an all time high.
We want to lower them. I could do that on
day one by pulling out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative.
(39:14):
This is a carbon tax policy that's been in place
since Murphy took office. The air is no cleaner, electricity
as skyrocketed, and rate payer dollars are going to other states.
I could save half a billion dollars a year in
rate payers dollars, homeowners, tenants, and businesses. We need to
get electricity rates down. Also, on day one, I'll end
the Immigrant Trust Directive. We'll no longer have sanctuary cities
(39:36):
and we will not be a sanctuary state. Also, on
day when, I'll give us an attorney general that supports book
police and parents. The current attorney Jones does not.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You lost, as we said, very close race in twenty
twenty one. Trump lost a very close race in New Jersey.
I think it came down to basically five points. The
Trump team said, Hey, if we'd had the money Kamala had,
we could have poured it in. We might have been
able to win New Jersey. Why is New Jersey moving red?
And why do you think now is the time when
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you're going to kick the door down and win this
race here in thirty nine days.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
It's all because Phil Murphy's policies have had failed across
the board. Taxes up every year since he took office,
spending up seventy percent. When he took over, the state
budget was thirty six billion. It's now fifty nine billion,
seventy percent increase. Housing, We've got an overdevelopment crisis going
on in our suburban communities. Public education we slip from
(40:34):
two to twelve on the national report card with all
the learning laws in the post pandemic world, because he shut.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Down the schools for two years.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
Law enforcement, non violent crime has spiked, break in's car, deft,
flashmubs on the Jersey Shore, and at our malls. Why
because his attorney general's handcuffed our local police. These are
the issues, and they represent policy failures of the past
seven plus years. And my opponent has endured every one
of these policies. In fact, in some cases, like the
wind farms, she's doubled down.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's remarkable to see how I think there was a
clip already circulating Jack of Mikey Cheryl saying your opponent
that she can't even commit to not raising taxes on
the middle class, like she's tax raises are on the
table all across the board from what I can understand,
which for your state is already pretty heavily taxed.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Date.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
From what I understand, I mean, I was living in
New York City, where it's completely insane, but New Jersey
taxes under Murphy have been rough.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
This was an astonishing moment at the debate. She's been
lying Lee, lying blatantly about me raising the sales tax
to ten percent, and yet at the debate when I
was asked, I said, the sales tax is not going
to be increased. I will lower property taxes, I will
lower income taxes. I gave specific ways on how I'm
going to do that in a very fiscally responsible way.
(41:53):
They then asked her the same question, and she said,
I'm not going to commit to anything. So wait a second.
You're lying about me raising taxes, and then when you're
asked why or not you're to raise taxes, your answer
is I'm not gonna commit to anything.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
When I travel around, and I know this has been
an issue in New Jersey too, it doesn't matter where
you're from, a lot of people see men and women's
sports as a clarifying, crystallizing issue. I know it's a
big point down in Virginia, but a lot of moms
and dads in New Jersey are fed up with the
cultural ridiculousness of the Democrat Party. Do you feel that,
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even having accelerated since you last ran in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 9 (42:34):
Parents are very upset about a number of these far
left liberal policies. Policy fifty seven to fifty six, school
districts keeping secrets and parents. We're going to stop that
on day one. Our children are best off when our
school districts and parents work in partnership. Biological boys playing
in girls' sports, that's one of those any twenty issues
(42:54):
in New Jersey. More than eight out of ten people
don't agree with that. And so these are the policies,
the LGBTQ curriculum in our public schools. My opponent has
said she will not let parents opt their kids out
of that lesson. I mean, these are eighty twenty issues.
But again, she's not from New Jersey. She's out of touch, she's.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Toned, deaf.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
It's just another reason why we're going to win this race.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Now, what is to the degree you can speak to this?
I know you got a big state, millions and millions
of residents, but some of the what's the profile would
you say of the late breaking voter at this point?
Is it independents that are going to be the difference maker?
Is it Democrats defecting from the high taxes and some
of the other policy matters we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Who's going to be the deciding cohort in your home state?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
If in fact we're able to see you get across
the finish line with a W.
Speaker 9 (43:47):
For sure, moderate Democrats and unaffiliated slash independent voters the
ones that are still undecided. And I really do believe
that after eight years of Phil Murphy's policies and us
going around the state the way we do offer specific, responsible,
thoughtful proposals on how to fix New Jersey, at the
end of the day, we're gonna win this race.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Are you Here's the final question for you, Jack. This
is important and you may want to dodge it. Are
you a Yankees Mets guy? Are you a Jets Giants guy?
Who are your teams? Because I know there are a
lot of people out there and the Ryder Cup's going on.
I even said to my team, I'm a little bit
surprised he's not there with the President right now rooting
on Team USA, because I bet there's a lot of
New Jersey guys and gals that are out at the
(44:30):
golf course right now as well.
Speaker 9 (44:32):
Well. I'm a Yankees guy, and they frustrate us a
whole lot over the summer. But this Veterans team is
rising to the occasion when it counts most. And here
we are with only three games left and they're tied
for first.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Go.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, there you go, Governor. I hope, good luck. We're
gonna help put you in the governor's office if everybody
out there listening right now gets their votes in and
works as hard as they can for you one last
time here as you go to break, where should people
go if they want to offer you.
Speaker 9 (44:59):
Support, jackfournj dot com and that's the number four, jackfournj
dot com.
Speaker 10 (45:04):
I greatly appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Good luck, sir. That is Jack chitare We need to
do every day.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
We're happy to have you on anytime down the stretch.
Run here we can help out. But again, everybody check
that out. Get your votes in New Jersey is in play,
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I'm not sure exactly where he is, but he's going
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the next governor of the great State of Florida. He
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people will well remember. I gotta ask you a question.
(48:40):
Buck was asking me. I know you're a big sports fan.
President Trump is at the Ryder Cup. Can you golf?
Are you any good at golf at all? Do you
even attempt it? I have an awful golf shot. I
love pretty much every sport. But I don't know. Are
you paying attention to the Ryder Cup? Have you gotten
out on the golf course? How would you assess your game?
Speaker 10 (49:00):
I sank and drink transfused there. I enjoy myself. Actually,
I just don't really can't count the strokes.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, well join the club. So you are with us. Now.
We got a potential shutdown going on in the Congress.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
We'll get to that, but I wanted to start with
this because Buck now lives in Miami. He's potentially going
to be your constituent. I've got a place in North Florida.
I love it and the culture of Florida. You're in
South Florida. You got into this thing because you looked
around and just said, man, we're making a lot of
bad decisions. I saw the story about Trump potentially getting
his presidential library in Miami, and I thought about you
(49:38):
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the transformation that we have seen in the state of
Florida over the last decade. For people who don't know,
I think maybe sharing your story of how you ended
up doing what you're doing and why you want to
be the next governor of Florida would be a good
jumping off point. Using that library as a point of
a demarcation.
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Well, I mean before twenty ten, I was a registered Democrat.
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They actually actually kept sound quite dumb, and I just
started paying attention to politics, started reading articles, started reading
about books on political philosophy. Found out I was actually
quite conservative, and and so you know, when it was
when I was you know, in the Tea Party movement
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locally in Naples, Florida, in the Tea Party movement, and
I'm getting ready for the mid term elections. I looked
at my voter registration. I was like, why am I
still registered like a Democrat? I don't think like one.
I'm very conservative. So I switched parties after that. Locally,
I got asked to run for office. Did not think
that was a are going to be on my personal
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binkle card of what I was going to do with
my life. And so then so then what I decided
to do was, you know, jump in and see what
happened if I was an activist out of my local
tea party area. Worked hard, really just was trying to
do the best to represent conservative values as I believe
them and as I decided to follow the conservative movement.
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And then before you know it, I'm in the state House.
Then I got elected to Congress, and here we go, and.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Now you're running for governor in my home state of Florida.
Congress and Donalds, which has honestly been on a hot streak.
It's been going very well. I've been very pleased with
the governance in my state since I moved a few
years ago, What are some of the top things that
you would want to do if you become governor. I
have to ask because I and I'm curious for me.
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But we also have a huge Florida audience. You know,
twenty one million people live in the great state of floor.
So it's a it's a substantial it's a big gig,
it's a big job.
Speaker 10 (52:04):
Well, first is you know, when it comes to the
costs of living at Florida Insurance, we you know, we've
the governor has done some great work and Governor Desantrus
has done a great job as our governor, but we
still have more work to do in trying to stabilize
our insurance market for Floridians. When it comes to property taxes,
our homeowners need reform, That's just the way it is.
They need they need to reform. They need a relief
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from local property taxes. When it comes to our the
future of our economy, we're going to be the financial
capital of the world in a decade. We're gonna bring
a lot of manufacturing and and defense and aerospace and
tech companies and jobs to our state. Because Cape Canaveral
is doing all of the launches. But I'll tell you
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the biggest question I get no matter where I am
in Florida is are you going to keep us going
on the conservative trajectory that we're on? Are we going
to continue to be the free state of Florida? And
my answer to the people of Florida as a resounding yes,
I'm a conservative out of the Tea Party movement. I'm
a House Freedom Caucus member. I have one of the
most conservative voting records in the country and also in
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the state of Florida. And whether it's law and order,
whether it's backing our police, making sure it woke and
DEI is not in our schools in doctrinated our kids,
having common sense economic policies that allow people to just
chase their dreams here in Florida. That's what I'm about.
That's where the state is going to continue to be,
and we're just going to take Florida to a whole
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other level.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
We're talking to Byron Donald's next governor of the State
of Florida. Byron, you're a dad like both of us are.
And I know you knew Charlie Kirk. Well, where were
you when you heard about the assassination? What was your
relationship like with Charlie and what do you think the
legacy of his activism should be as we all go forward.
Speaker 10 (53:55):
I was in my office in Washington. I was actually
in the middle of a meeting. My common as director
called me out, which he almost never does, so I would.
I was like, Oh, what's happening? And uh, you know,
he showed me the video and honestly, I just doubled over.
I doubled over. It was It was painful to watch,
(54:16):
and you know, you try to do your best to
kind of stay on track and take care of your business.
And and then the news started coming across that uh
that that Charlie had had had died from that assassin's bullet.
He was he was special man. He's one of one.
I know. We were planning on doing like campus tours
(54:37):
throughout Florida over the next year, something that we were
we were we had had conversations about uh, his his
his team and my team were we're trying to work
through that. But on a broader level, we Charlie Kirk
he has changed the political fabric in this country for conservatism,
and he did it facing his dream of bringing young
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people into the political debate of what conservative policy actually is,
what Western civilization is, how great that is, and why
your dale Christian values are the value set that allow
people to thrive and be successful. And I don't think
we would be in a position we are right now,
not just a Republican Party, but the conservative movement without
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Charlie Kirk like he's going to be missed and he's
not going to be replaced.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Speaking to Congressman Donald's out of Florida and a congressman,
I did want to get you to weigh in on
this if I could. We tend to take a somewhat
cynical view I think of shutdown negotiations. Can you just
give us some insight onto this whole situation. If there's
anything that's important that's an issue as you see it,
(55:45):
what is it and where is all this going?
Speaker 10 (55:49):
The way I look at it, Chuck Schumer doesn't want
to look like he's being bullieved. Who's telling you straight.
When Chuck Schumer worked with President Trump to keep the
government open, he took a lot grief from the radicals
in his party. And you know, I think if the
government shuts down, it's because he is going to bend
the knee to the radicals and the Democrat Party. I mean, look,
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Donald Trump has delivered on the agenda that he promised
the American people. The Democrats were soundly rejected last November.
Elections do have consequences, and so if Chuck Schumer wants
to shut down the government, to have a Schumer shut down,
it's simply because he wants the radical left policies that
the American people rejected to be funded by Donald Trump
(56:31):
and executed by Donald Trump. And that's not going to
happen period, which everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
We're talking about Iron Donald's. You're a big sports fan.
You're running for governor of Florida next week. I know
it's a week out. Miami is traveling to Florida State.
Your Seminoles have bounced back after a disastrous game, and
I got to tell you, I think the last time
we had you on, I was telling you I went
to the Alabama Florida State game. People were phenomenal, so great.
(57:00):
The stadium has been renovated. It looks spectacular. What is
going to happen when those two great Florida college dynasties
historically go head to head next Saturday.
Speaker 10 (57:12):
The Knowles you already know what's going to happen Florida State.
I was actually asked in a room in Miami and
I said, I'm taking the Knowles plus five and a half.
I said, that's my own personal line. I have no
idea what Vegas has the line at, but I got
the Knowles. I got the Knowles by five and a half.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
That's what I got by Clay has hit three parlays
in a row or what do.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
You call it?
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Very well with prize picks. I've hit three different picks
in the first four weeks. These are Thursday NFL. I'm
on fire. I would have been happy for that for
the full season. In fact, by the way, Congressman, your
team is playing tonight in Charlottesville. I don't know what
part of the country you're in right now, but FSU is.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
On the road.
Speaker 10 (57:54):
I'm in Tampa right now.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
So do you plan events around so you can try
to be able to watch games. I mean, I hear
from different guys that they try to do that. I'm
curious if you look at the schedule and you're like, hey,
maybe we can do that in the morning, maybe we
can do that in the evening. Do you try to
build around a little bit so you can keep an
eye on games.
Speaker 10 (58:13):
Nah, I mean, just stay focused, man. I the schedule
is set. We just we run the gauntlet and do
what we need to do. I love my knowls, I
love sports in general, but not in this time period
running for governors of all hands on deck situation. So
I'll either catch the highlights or you know, if I'm
really blessed, what will happen is And this is what
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happened with the Alabama Florida state game. I was keynoting
at dinner on the other side of the state and
they had a you know, a pretty decent program. It
was pretty long, so you know, I pulled up, you know,
you know, the the game on my phone and I
sat there at the head table and was watching the
game while I was talking to people. It was it
was actually a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
Good luck tonight and good luck next week to the seminoles,
and we'll talk to you again soon. But keep up
the good work on the campaign as well.
Speaker 10 (59:03):
All right, take it in the guys. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
That's Byron Donald's next governor of the state of Florida.
I believe we'll see what happens. And Buck just gave
me a nice tease there because three out of the
last four weeks the NFL season.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
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Speaker 1 (59:17):
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Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show coming
to you across the nation. Buck is in la I
am here in Nashville, and we are taking you into
what hopefully will be a fantastic weekend for all of you,
no matter what part of the country you are in.
President of the United States at the Ryder Cup. I
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don't know if you follow the Ryder Cup at all, Buck,
but it is taking place in New York City area,
and we are getting smoked early by the Euros, which
is not a good start competition between the European golfers
and the American golfers.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We are down three to one.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Some of the videos of Trump flying over the golf
course of the USA Chance, it's pretty awesome, and so
I know many of you are going to be following
this throughout the course of the weekend. Farmingdale, New York.
Buck is where Bethpage Black is hosting this. It's a
public course, Beth Page one of the great golf courses
(01:03):
in America, and that is where Trump is going to be.
Would not surprise me. We've got some audio of Trump
speaking as he was boarding alongside of his granddaughter Kai,
who we met. Buck up at the Trump Course in
New Jersey at Bedminster before. She was a golfer who
is a college athlete now at the University of Miami.
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So they flew together to go to watch the tournament.
I bet a huge percentage of our audience is paying
attention here, Buck. Do you know anything about the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, But I want to know.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Has President Trump ever seen the famous Clay Travis swing,
because I've seen it on video.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, he has lied and said that the Clay Travis
golf swing is good, which is a sign that Trump
is actually a really nice.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
A great man. He's a great guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
In fact, maybe we could grab I don't think we
played it, but producer Greg I'm sure saw it. Scotti Scheffler,
who is the best golfer in the world, talked about
out what Trump is like on his golf courses and
hanging out around the golf community. What's amazing is all
the euro golfers love him too. So this is going
to be Trump and his element. That is where he
(02:13):
is right now now. He broke a couple of news
stories as he was about to board Marine one to
begin the process of flying up there this weekend. In fact,
He said that he thought they had potentially a deal
in Gaza, which would obviously be a huge deal if
we finally got a ceasefire nearly two years to the
(02:33):
day after the October seventh terror attacks from Hamas. But
President Trump, not surprisingly, the biggest story, and we're going
to dive into this in detail and we will walk
you through everything is yesterday evening news broke that James Comey,
former FBI director, had been had been indicted. And here
(02:56):
is Trump saying Coby lied. He lied a lot. Was
just a little bit earlier as he was flying to
the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Cut two.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was about justice. He lied, he lied a lot.
But this was a very important thing.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
This was he could have said, well maybe or I
don't remember.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
He didn't say that.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
He gave a very specific answer, and then he verified
it numerous times and he got caught. The problem that
Komy has is he got caught.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Lying, and he was very strong.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
It's not like well maybe or I don't remember, or
he gave a very specific answer because it was a
very powerful question, a very important question. And when he
gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Okay, that's cut too here's cut four buck of Trump
again saying, this is not a hard case.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He lied. He didn't think he was going to get caught.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Cut for it's a pretty easy case because he lied.
You saw my truth today.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
He lied it. Yes, he didn't say well, in my opinion,
he didn't do a lot of things that maybe he
should have. But I don't think he could because he lied.
That was a very important question that he was in
and he wanted to be specific, but he didn't. The
only thing that.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Happened to him, he didn't think he'd get gone. That
was a very important answer, and it was very for him.
It was a very good answer if he didn't get gone,
but he got caught.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Lying to Congo.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, so charges now from northern Virginia. This is a
very blue area. We talked about this some yesterday Alexandria area.
Two different charges brought an indicted against Komy by the
grand jury. Buck, you covered this Russia mess way more
than me. What's your reaction.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, I think for a lot of people, the sense
is finally something has been done. Finally there could be
and I want to emphasize could there could be accountability
for the This is more than just the lies that
Comy told because the lies were in the service of
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the Russia collusion hoax. So the lies that Comy told,
and as Trump was hammering there, these are material lies, right,
these are lies that have meaning and significance. It's not oh,
in a three hour long FBI sit down, which, as
Clay has told you, never without a lawyer, never without
a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That that is the most whenever you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
The FBI in the three hour long sit down, you
forgot what you had for breakfast last week, that you
would be able to argue even if it was untrue
and correct, it's immaterial. In this case, Trump has made
it clear it is quite material.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It is an.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Important issue of fact that he was lying about and
the lie was part of obstructing justice, which is why
that charge has also come to the forefront. But now
here's where we get to analyze what comes next to it.
So on the one hand, I think Clay, this this
needed to happen because there was a clear two tiered
system of justice at work and Comy I might has
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been a pioneer or on the forefront of that, and
a lot of people are pointing out myself included that
comy was far and away the guy who wanted Martha
Stewart prosecuted for what was really a he said she
said on a phone call with the broker about conduct
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that was not actually criminal. She did not actually do
anything illegal other than she said that they did that
he did. You know, she did say she was going
to sell or whatever it was. There were some dispute
over what was said on that phone call and the broker.
I think with the broker it was we'll say what
we want you to say, and you get to walk
clean and free.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right, that's easy. So people realize that Kmy.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Has been using it's you know, it's US code one
zero zero one is the line to the FBI statute
or it's really lying to federal agents, but the FBI
is the one that uses it the most. This this
is something that he's been a big proponent of. So
it feels like what's good for the goose is good
for the gander. That's part one of it. The other
thing is, as we love to say on the show,
the process is the punishment. And that's important to keep
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in mind here. The process is part of accountability. The
decision to prosecute is itself a punishment, which is why
prosecutors have such a fearsome level of power in this country,
because the decision to prosecute is usually a decision to destroy,
even if you're innocent. It's gonna cost you a ton
of money, it's going to hurt your reputation, all that stuff.
(07:28):
But now, Clay, we can get into and I know
you're going to have strong thoughts on this one.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You alluded to this. It's in Northern Virginia.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
It's at the judge is I think an Obama appointee, right, Yes,
Obama appoint e judge Northern Virginia, a roughly eighty percent
Democrat jurisdiction. At all it takes is one purple haired
hashtag resistance cat lady or guy who works at the
Commerce Department or whatever to say, I'm just not letting
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anybody who goes after Trump go to prison.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I don't care what for.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And at worse you get, you're at either a hung
jury or an acquittal. So I want everyone's expectations to
be kept in line here. I think it's the right
move because it's what's true and what the statutes require.
But I don't know if we're gonna get to a conviction.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm impressed that they got a grand jury indictment. They
got two of them. They reportedly brought three. One was
struck down and not given the indictment. Two of the
three were. But what Buck just hit is the key.
I mean, this is what I've been saying, and I
understand people get upset that I even talk about it.
We're playing with a rigged justice system by being required
(08:43):
to get indictments in DC area cases that are predicated
on blue strongholds. Democrats will indict Republicans for anything. We
have a ninety five to five in Washington, DC. To
Buck's point, it's probably eighty twenty seventy five twenty five
(09:04):
in northern Virginia, and so I think there's gonna be
at least one juror who refuses to convict no matter
what the evidence shows. It wouldn't shock me, Buck if
this Obama and pointed judge finds a reason to toss
these indictments. I think you have to prepare yourself for
the fact that you are not on an even playing field.
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From a sports analogy, you're starting off and the scoreboards
already got you down twenty one points. Before you even
snapped the ball. And I think this is the right result.
I give credit to the prosecutors.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
The son in law.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Of Komi was in the northern district of virgin Did
you see this? He resigned. The son in law is
inside of the office. I mean, this is one of
the craziest things I've ever seen. Now, I'm sure they
tried to wall him off, I would think from being
involved in investigating his father in law. But the fact
(10:03):
that this guy is employed there is a sign of
how deep the swamp is, wasn't it, Marie Comy. He's
employed in New York, in the most important federal district there.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
These people's the one who messed up the ditty case.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And then she got forced out and now I think
she's suing or something like that. These people, man, they
rig the system in so many different ways to have
their allies.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And here is what I've said. For a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You've been on this, but I think the average person
has just become aware of it. Violent crime is relatively
easy to prosecute.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
In theory.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
If you run up to somebody with a gun and
you rob them, it's pretty self evident that a crime happened.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
If a dead body.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Shows up with bullet holes and or stab wounds or something,
is a pretty good sign that a murder happened. Where
these prosecutors have all their power is I guarantee you
everyone listening out there who thinks that they have led
an upstanding life and never done anything wrong. If a
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federal prosecutor decided to investigate you and spend a year
going through every tax return you've ever filed, and spent
a year asking you to sit down for every interview
and examined every property transfer you've ever been involved in,
ever employment contract you've ever signed, they would find a way.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
To prosecute you.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And that is where the will and the power of
the state has been marshaled. It was used against Trump,
and now we'll see if Komi can be convicted of crimes.
But spare me all the hand ringing. We told you
this when they crossed the rubicon and indicted Trump in
New York, in Georgia, in Florida, and in DC. The
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gloves were officially off. All of that came at the
direct behest of Joe Biden. So spare me the Oh
my goodness, our republic is now being challenged. If you
didn't say a war when they came after Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's very straightforward for me. Did he break the law?
And you know what's interesting is that there used to
be this presumption I think of, oh, well, because of
the politics involved, maybe we let this one slide. I'm
not saying I agree with that presumption. I'm just saying, oh,
the former FBI director, it's bad. It's a bad look
(12:25):
for all of us if you were to go after
somebody like that. And then they went after a former
president and current president now four times with absolute garbage prosecutions.
So they crossed the rubicon over and over. I mean,
the rubicon doesn't even exist anymore. They've erased the rubicon,
all right. They pushed so that there's no more political
question overriding a legal question, and in fact, I would
(12:49):
argue they took it even further where they fabricated a
legal issue in the service of politics. What I'm saying here, Clay,
is if Comy broke the law, laws, the law he
presided over plenty of prosecutions. Remember, he was a US
attorney previously before he was at the FBI.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
He's really a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
He's not like a g man FBI guy for his career.
He was a lawyer and a very politically, you know,
maneuverable one in the Justice Department and then eventually found
himself all the way at the head of the FBI.
He sent plenty of people to prison for exactly this
lying in the course of an investigation, and he would
(13:29):
have sent Donald Trump to prison for Heavin knowsway. He
was the one who orchestrated and we played that audio
for everybody yesterday, the destruction and prosecution actually you know,
the career destruction and prosecution of General Michael Flynn. And
he thinks it's funny. So you know what, I think
this is funny. I think Komy should have to lawyer up.
I think it's a fair prosecution based upon the facts
(13:50):
presented in the case. And I think that we now
have to have one system of justice for all of
us to operate under. And you know, they're the ones
that pushed into the Lavrenti Bear Carriot category. You know,
the old head of the NKVD, which people think of
as the KGB, but it was called the NKVD, who
said you show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
They did that to Trump. They fabricated crimes. This is
(14:12):
Comy broke the law. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, and look, somebody broke the law for sure. Because
if you compare, and if you want to get into
the nitty gritty, and maybe we will a bit, if
you compare the testimony, I think it was Senator Ted
Cruz who really kind of went at the details here.
If you compare the testimony relating to Russia collusion about
whether or not there was any instruction to leak information.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
One, I think it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Was McCabe testified, yes, there was an instruction to leak information. Uh,
and then Comy says, no, there was no instruction. We'll
both can't be telling the truth. So someone is lying
and we know there was a leak.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So how someone either one of them spending six months
in a minimum security federal federal prison or federal camp
as I think they called. Sometimes seems like it could.
It seems like it could be a fair outcome. Will
it happen? I think that's different. That's not very likely,
but we'll see. But there also could be other indictments,
(15:10):
which we should talk about here in a second.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It's big news. Comy indicted finally he's such a punk. Honestly,
I really you know that the emailer yesterday was like
buckets fired up about Comy because Clay I was following
the Russia collusion thing very very closely, and the President
was retweeting a lot of my assessments of what was
going on with the Russia collusion, and Komy was an
absolute dirt bag over the whole thing. All right, Look,
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Let's dive into some of the shall we so?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
President Trump spoke about a few things this morning talking
to reporters. We heard him say that to no Acomi
lied liedlide. There's a lot of that. Few other things
that he got into as well. For example, on the
shutdown issue, I want to talk about this is the
government going to shut down?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
If it does shut down, it won't be shut down
for very long. Generally, these shutdown talks end up being
something along the lines of a political food fight, and
then there's some kind of agreement last minute and they
keep the government going. Maybe this time is different, but
this morning Trump spoke to reporters about it. This is
cut one, and I think everybody should hear what Democrats
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are drawing a hard.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Line in the sand on play one.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Everything's going good. We're respected by every nation in the world,
and you know what happened. The Democrats want to shut
it down, and they want to shut it down because
they want to give pinions, ultimately trillions of dollars to
illegal migrants, people that came into our country illegally.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Some of those people are.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Criminals, but they came into our country illegally, and they
want to give them the essential over the years, trillions
of dollars.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
And our people aren't going to stand for it.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
They also want to have open borders, they want to
have men and women's sports, they want to have transgender
for everybody.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
These people are crazy, the Democrats. So if it has
to shut down, they'll have to shut down. But they're
the ones that are shutting down.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Clay, this is this is a very important issue because
this is where Democrats, i think, once again, are going
to be exposed. The the issue that he's talking about
here has to do with the funding of Obamacare, Obamacare
subsidies healthcare in general, and how much money is going
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to illegal immigrants who are not We were promised, if
everyone recalls, not supposed to get any federal funding at
all for health care, because then it's quite clear this
would be us providing healthcare to the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean, at that point, it just should just be.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You want to fly here from Bangladesh, you want to
fly here from from Bolivia, and just countries that start
with B. We'll get your you know, you'll get your heart,
you'll get your heart transplant, You'll get whatever you need here,
and the taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And the hook Ford.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Meanwhile, Americans have seen their health care costs. Your premiums
have doubled, and your care is actually no better, If anything,
it has gotten worse. Obamacare is a straight up failure,
but the Democrats want it's a failure at everything other
than telling people they are covered as a ruse to
get them to subsidize everybody else's health care while theirs
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gets more expensive and worse. So there's Affordable Care Act
subsidies set to expire at the end of this year,
and Republicans are saying that, look, we got to look
at where this money's actually going. The more people look
at this and pay attention, Clay, the more they'll see.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
If you feel like you're paying too much everyone.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
For mortgages, for gas, for food, for whatever, everything's gotten
more expensive. For your own health care, Oh, you're subsidizing
millions of illegals as well, by the way, and when
you look at this, when you dig into the numbers,
that becomes even more clear.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Even no matter what your politics are, health care is broken.
And Obamacare broke healthcare worse than it was already broken.
And I've got so many thoughts on this. We've talked
about it. You just had a baby, Buck, your wife
Carrie did. This is when I was just done with healthcare,
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when we were having our first son. I wanted to
know what it was going to cost, as one does
to have a to.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Have a baby.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And we went around and toured, as probably many of
you have done, a variety of different places, you know,
delivery hospitals probably not the correct phrase for it, but
the place is where you go to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
This is one of the things that you could choose, right.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's not emergency room care, it's not oh my goodness,
well you've got to get in an ambulance.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It is okay, we know the baby's coming. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
We'll go tour all of these different hospitals and we'll
all check out, and my wife's going to pick out
where she wants to go at every one of them,
I said, what is the baby going to cost? None
of them could tell me. They don't compete at all
on price. They compete on bamboo floors and Wi Fi
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and what the reception area is going to be like
and what kind of meals they have, But they don't
tell you what any of it costs. How many other
things in life do you have where you don't go
to a buy a car and go tour a car
lot and say, okay, well what's the Rolls Royce cost?
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But maybe I want to get a used suv instead
of the Rolls Royce. To me, the reason why healthcare
is broken is because there is almost no market based
component to it, even when it is healthcare by choice,
not health care by emergency. So that's me on the soapbox.
And really that was the first time where I just
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couldn't get over the fact that none of these hospitals
could give me any idea what having a baby was
going to cost there because I would have potentially I'm
not gonna risk my family's health over it. But if
one of them, if they're otherwise relatively equal, and one
of them is gonna cost me ten thousand dollars more
than another, then I would save the ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
They couldn't tell me. And the reason they couldn't tell
me is because insurance is so broken they have no
idea and it might cost more or less. Here's another
story for you on that front, Buck, As Dad's probably
out there, may well nod along. I am not the
best at getting our kids in for any healthcare appointment.
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I often screw things up. I can't remember where my
insurance card is. We had two kids get strapped through.
It happens. You're gonna find this out, Buck. When you
get multiple kids, one kid gets sick, basically it just
runs through the whole family. Everybody ends up getting sick.
So we had simultaneously two different kids that ended up
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with strep throat. My wife took the first kid, went
to the clinic Vanderbilt University walk in clinic sponsored whatever
it is relatively close to our home, got the strep
throat diagnosis, got the treatment. A day or two later,
another kid comes down with it. Dad's now in charge.
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So she presented accurately, as moms often do. Here is
our insurance card. Here are all the details associated with
what you need in order to treat this child. I
showed up. I'm like, I don't know where my healthcare
card is. I'm not sure exactly know who our healthcare
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provider is. I am, frankly like many dads of moron
and all this stuff took him in. He also has
strep throat. Gave him the test. We got billed, and
my wife could gives you the exact dollar specifics on this.
Somehow I was classified as without health insurance at Vanderbilt
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because I was a moron and I couldn't figure out
where the health insurance card is and I couldn't even
figure out who our health insurance was. It costs nothing,
virtually buck. My wife got the bill, it was like
twenty bucks. The kid with health insurance cost hundreds of dollars.
And my wife said, wait a minute. These are within
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the same day, basically within a couple of days of
each other, within forty eight hours trips to the exact
same clinic. My husband went in, couldn't remember where his
health care card was, basically had to pay nothing. We're
having to pay hundreds of dollars for this other visit.
How is that possible? She got on the phone with
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the hospital insurance adjuster everybody else. Eventually, the hospital said, yeah,
when you don't have health insurance, we don't charge you
very much for health care. But she said, well, wait
a minute. That means that you're overcharging everybody who does
have health insurance a massive amount to subsidize the people
without health insurance. And they were like, yeah, that's just
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what we do here. So you're actually better off in
this particular location being a moron like I was and
just going in and basically saying, you don't have health
insurance and you pay like twenty dollars or you pay
hundreds of dollars if you actually have health insurance.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The market is broken. Well, you say it's broken. It's
broken if you believe that it should be a market.
It's functioning the way that the Democrats wanted to in
so far as you're paying for everybody else, including illegals.
I might add, illegals who use emergency rooms as frontline
day to day medical care cannot be turned away and
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will not be charged. It's why you have to wait hours.
If you ever go to an emergency room and you
actually have an emergency, you're probably gonna sit there forever.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And anyway, I think that's broken. Also, Buck, nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
About government shutdowns anymore. We're just over it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
The idea that they tried, the political media tries to
gin up. Oh this is a huge story. Oh my goodness,
spoiler alert. Here's how it's going to end. We're going
to go further in debt, and they're going to eventually
reach a conclusion.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
So here's one little interesting addition to the usual shutdown talk.
One is, if Democrats find themselves in a place where
the people of this country figure out that this really
is about just a massive slush fund that is our
healthcare system that is going to they say it doesn't
go to illegals.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It does.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
A lot of it does go to illegals, by the way.
That's one part of this. Another part of this, though Clay,
is that there may be layoffs if the government shuts
down after October first, that may be a moment of
opportunity to do more of the federal government cuts that
the administration has wanted to do all along. In essence,
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one of the problems that they've run into in the
post Doge advisory era is if Congress has funded these jobs,
can they still get rid of these jobs. If Congress
has said no, we're funding the following government jobs, can
the executive branch you know, this has been a back
and forth and they're you know, the courts are involved.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Well, if the money runs out for.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
The job, why can't the executive branch cut the job
because there's no money for the job anymore. Right that,
So there is this possibility that will open up I
think a job's cutting moment in time for the federal bureaucracy,
which which could I think be interesting as well. But overall,
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this is once again going to result in the government
will will be fund Here you go, this is Trump
yesterday said this, this is cut thirty three. He's making
it very clear what he thinks is at the core
of the issue, or at the core of the shutdown fight.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Right now play thirty three.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Well, this is all caused by the Democrats. They asked
us to do something that's totally unreasonable.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
They never change.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
They want to give money away to illegals, illegally, people
that entered our country illegally. They want to give them
massive federal money. And we don't want to do that
because it means everyone's going to just keep pouring back,
right now.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
We have absolutely perfect borders.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Like you haven't seen in many years, even better than
the I had great borders during my four years. But
these borders are stone coll floats. You can only come
into our country legally now. But the Democrats want to
give it all away. They want to also, they want
to open up the borders. Take a look at that.
It's a big thing. They want to open borders again.
After what we're going through now, getting rid of prisoners,
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getting rid of all of these people dropped out from
mental institutions, drug dealers, drug addicts, everything that they're putting
everybody into our pack.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's all ended now.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
But this is what Schumer wants, This is what the
Democrats want.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Clay One difference as well in the shutdown debate, nobody
on the other side can match Trump when it comes
to the megaphone, and so he's able to get He's
pounding these messages in a way that Chuck Schumer is
not able to counter.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And again I just come back to I don't think
anybody cares the the overall shut down dynamic. Eventually there
is going to be some form of resolution. I don't
Usually you're the cynic here, I'll be the cynic cynic
and we're going to end up spending way more money
than we should, and they're just going to keep right
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on rolling along.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well, that is all. The government's gonna keep spending too
much money, that's all for sure, and that's baked into it.
And everyone's not all of a sudden gonna wake up
and be like I to him with Ran Paul, and
we should go to pre COVID spending. It would be nice.
That's not gonna happen. But this is a moment, you know,
there's the highlighting of these issue shoes where people can clay.
If between now and September, first, a lot of Americans
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figure out that the Democrats are hell bent on keeping
funding for illegal health care for illegals to get health care.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
We got an election in a year, you know, I
think that these things can.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Be important on this and and look, I think everyone
is forcing them to protect to defend issues where they're
getting hammered.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
As the point.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, and again, I think it just comes back to
I think one hundred percent of Americans believe that healthcare
is one hundred percent broken in this country. And so
the idea that we are spending any money on non Americans.
Is a really difficult to argue. This is this is
where you and I see this a little differently. I
think people have no idea.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
When you say it's broken, yeah, that's true, but it's
like saying our immigration system is broken. The Democrats have
broken it for a reason, on purpose to do things,
and so people need to understand, Like you laid out
what you just talked about Clay, where that you can't
find out the pricing and everything else. Democrats like Schumer
want that so that ten million plus illegals thirty million
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that are here in the country have their health care
paid for.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, yes, I just think they don't understand basic economics.
They think that everything should be free. And honestly, the
fact that I could, I could do weeks on this
because how about the idea that we've created, this idea
that healthcare should be paid for by employers, Well, it's
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Doesn't make sense. There's this huge, huge problems with it.
But the more people realize that your super expensive premiums,
look at what they are now, look at what they
were ten years ago. And that's if you've got nice healthcare.
You know, from your employer. Never mind if you're in
like one of these Obamacare pools for the individuals. Look
at what it costs you, look at your access to
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your actual ability to get health care, and understand that
so that people that have arrived here in the last year,
can you get free healthcare. Basically, that's one of the
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Speaker 2 (33:32):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
One of the big elections that is going to be
determined in this November cycle is who's gonna be the
governor of New Jersey, the Garden State place near and
dear to my heart. As a lifelong New Yorker, it's
like our close cousin next door. I feel like I'm
like an honorary New Jersey And in so many ways
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and we've got We've got the man who is trying
to make sure that it does not fall deep into
communist hands. Jack Chinarelli is with us now. He is
the Republican candidate for governor of New Jersey. Jack, appreciate
you being with us.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Thank you for the time. Guys looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Look, you had a great run back in twenty twenty one,
just a few points from beating Phil Murphy, and you
know we were talking about it then, we were giving
you the high five. I know it was too much
to ask in that cycle to pull it off, but
she came very close.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It was a heroic finish.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Nonetheless, this time around, mister Jack, I'm seeing polls with
you dead even maybe even a couple points ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Can you pull it off?
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Need?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What do we need to know about this race? That
it is a dead heat right now?
Speaker 9 (34:47):
And that's really good news for Republican I mean, we
are the minority party in the state, but we're going
to continue to get out there over the last thirty
nine days make it happen. And when you see Democratic
mayors across the state endorsing Mike Candidsey, I think it
only reaffirms that people across the state have had it
with film Murby sale policies, and they know that my
opponent is Murphy two point zero.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
What should people who want you to win. We've got
a big audience all over New Jersey. What should they
know to do? What should they know about when early
voting starts? How to donate? Give us your pitch right now?
You said, I think thirty nine days out. What needs
to happen in the next thirty nine days. What should
people listening to us right now do to support you.
Speaker 9 (35:30):
The vote by mail ballots have already been mailed. They
went out last week. So if you're a vote by mail,
vote by mail ballot voter, we want you to get
that in. There'll be nine days of early voting leading
up to election day and then of course Tuesday the fourth.
But what differentiates me from my opponent is Cheda Relly's
have been here for one hundred years and three generations
of Cheddar rallies of a loving business owners and created
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jobs read here in New Jersey. My opponent hasn't been
here all that long, and she spent appetizer's been here
in the Congress and during that time tripled her net
worth and broke federal law and stock trades and stock
reporting for congress people.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Now, what would you Let's let's before we get into
what she would do other than apparently make a lot
of money in the stock market on some defense stocks
that she doesn't remember. You know, it's seven million here,
seven million there.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, that's a second.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
When Charlemagne, the god to Buck's Point can ask her,
how did you make seven million dollars and she says
I don't know basically, or she had no idea how
she made it. I think that's pretty tough for most
New Jerseyans out there to say, you know, I think
i'd know if I made seven million dollars.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
It's a disqualifier. Who wouldn't know if they're net worth
it triples in such a short period of time, who
wouldn't know where an additional seven million dollars came from.
Here's what we do know. She broke federal law and
had to pay fines for it as a congress person. Well,
here's what else is something we know? The New York
Times reports while she was sitting on the House Armed
Services Committee, she was trading defense stocks. I mean, this
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really calls into question her character, as does the stunning
revelation of yesterday that she didn't participate in the graduation
ceremonies at the Naval Academy back in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
And now we saw that story about the Naval Academy
and we talked about it yesterday with our friend Ryan Gardusky.
What is that story? I think it was from nineteen
ninety four, and why does it matter to you? How
does it connect to her today?
Speaker 9 (37:23):
She's built her entire political brand around the fact that
she attended the Naval Academy, but she hasn't been transparent
with us. The Naval Academy punished her, and we believe
it's for lying, and so she did not get to
participate in her graduation ceremonies. She can clear this all
up by approving the release of her disciplinary records. She's
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not doing that, and I think that tells us a
whole lot. And for her to say that, what she's
been saying out there in the public, I think it's
code for having lied to the investigators. Quite frankly, she's
saying that she covered for her friends. Who did she
I think that's code for lying to investigators.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Now we got a lot of wo r which is
our New York City based affiliate. Obviously that signal is
huge all across particularly the northern half of the Garden.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It reaches well beyond that.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
We have a lot of listeners who are commuters into
New York City who listen on w or Jack, and
so they're very interested to know what are you going
to do if you become governor? To make what is
I'm from Manhattan, so we like to make you know.
The occasional give a little ribbing to New Jersey. But
I love New Jersey. It is a great state, beautiful state,
a lot of things going for it. What are you
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going to do to take New Jersey to the next level,
either problems to fix or just things to focus on
in the future. If you are in fact able to
pull off this very very photo finished governor's.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Race, we are going to pull it off.
Speaker 9 (38:51):
And there's a number of things we're gonna do, including
those things on day one. But here's one thing I'm
never gonna do is lie to the people in New Jersey.
This laughable, illegitimate, feasible plan that she's put forth to
declare a state emergency to freeze our electricity rates. Why
would we want to freeze them at an all time high.
We want to lower them. I could do that on
day one by pulling out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative.
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This is a carbon tax policy that's been in place
since Murphy took office. The air is no cleaner, electricity
as skyrocketed, and rate payer dollars are going to other states.
I could save half a billion dollars a year in
rate payers dollars, homeowners, tenants, and businesses. We need to
get electricity rates down. Also, on day one, I'll end
the Immigrant Trust Directive. We'll no longer have sanctuary cities
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and we will not be a sanctuary state. Also, on
day when, I'll give us an attorney general that supports book
police and parents. The current attorney Jones does not.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You lost, as we said, very close race in twenty
twenty one. Trump lost a very close race in New Jersey.
I think it came down to basically five points. The
Trump team said, Hey, if we'd had the money Kamala had,
we could have poured it in. We might have been
able to win New Jersey. Why is New Jersey moving red?
And why do you think now is the time when
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you're going to kick the door down and win this
race here in thirty nine days.
Speaker 9 (40:13):
It's all because Phil Murphy's policies have had failed across
the board. Taxes up every year since he took office,
spending up seventy percent. When he took over, the state
budget was thirty six billion. It's now fifty nine billion,
seventy percent increase. Housing, We've got an overdevelopment crisis going
on in our suburban communities. Public education we slip from
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two to twelve on the national report card with all
the learning laws in the post pandemic world, because he shut.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Down the schools for two years.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
Law enforcement, non violent crime has spiked, break in's car, deft,
flashmubs on the Jersey Shore, and at our malls. Why
because his attorney general's handcuffed our local police. These are
the issues, and they represent policy failures of the past
seven plus years. And my opponent has endured every one
of these policies. In fact, in some cases, like the
wind farms, she's doubled down.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's remarkable to see how I think there was a
clip already circulating Jack of Mikey Cheryl saying your opponent
that she can't even commit to not raising taxes on
the middle class, like she's tax raises are on the
table all across the board from what I can understand,
which for your state is already pretty heavily taxed.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Date.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
From what I understand, I mean, I was living in
New York City, where it's completely insane, but New Jersey
taxes under Murphy have been rough.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
This was an astonishing moment at the debate. She's been
lying Lee, lying blatantly about me raising the sales tax
to ten percent, and yet at the debate when I
was asked, I said, the sales tax is not going
to be increased. I will lower property taxes, I will
lower income taxes. I gave specific ways on how I'm
going to do that in a very fiscally responsible way.
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They then asked her the same question, and she said,
I'm not going to commit to anything. So wait a second.
You're lying about me raising taxes, and then when you're
asked why or not you're to raise taxes, your answer
is I'm not gonna commit to anything.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
When I travel around, and I know this has been
an issue in New Jersey too, it doesn't matter where
you're from, a lot of people see men and women's
sports as a clarifying, crystallizing issue. I know it's a
big point down in Virginia, but a lot of moms
and dads in New Jersey are fed up with the
cultural ridiculousness of the Democrat Party. Do you feel that,
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even having accelerated since you last ran in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 9 (42:34):
Parents are very upset about a number of these far
left liberal policies. Policy fifty seven to fifty six, school
districts keeping secrets and parents. We're going to stop that
on day one. Our children are best off when our
school districts and parents work in partnership. Biological boys playing
in girls' sports, that's one of those any twenty issues
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in New Jersey. More than eight out of ten people
don't agree with that. And so these are the policies,
the LGBTQ curriculum in our public schools. My opponent has
said she will not let parents opt their kids out
of that lesson. I mean, these are eighty twenty issues.
But again, she's not from New Jersey. She's out of touch, she's.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Toned, deaf.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
It's just another reason why we're going to win this race.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Now, what is to the degree you can speak to this?
I know you got a big state, millions and millions
of residents, but some of the what's the profile would
you say of the late breaking voter at this point?
Is it independents that are going to be the difference maker?
Is it Democrats defecting from the high taxes and some
of the other policy matters we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Who's going to be the deciding cohort in your home state?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
If in fact we're able to see you get across
the finish line with a W.
Speaker 9 (43:47):
For sure, moderate Democrats and unaffiliated slash independent voters the
ones that are still undecided. And I really do believe
that after eight years of Phil Murphy's policies and us
going around the state the way we do offer specific, responsible,
thoughtful proposals on how to fix New Jersey, at the
end of the day, we're gonna win this race.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Are you Here's the final question for you, Jack. This
is important and you may want to dodge it. Are
you a Yankees Mets guy? Are you a Jets Giants guy?
Who are your teams? Because I know there are a
lot of people out there and the Ryder Cup's going on.
I even said to my team, I'm a little bit
surprised he's not there with the President right now rooting
on Team USA, because I bet there's a lot of
New Jersey guys and gals that are out at the
(44:30):
golf course right now as well.
Speaker 9 (44:32):
Well. I'm a Yankees guy, and they frustrate us a
whole lot over the summer. But this Veterans team is
rising to the occasion when it counts most. And here
we are with only three games left and they're tied
for first.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Go.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, there you go, Governor. I hope, good luck. We're
gonna help put you in the governor's office if everybody
out there listening right now gets their votes in and
works as hard as they can for you one last
time here as you go to break, where should people
go if they want to offer you.
Speaker 9 (44:59):
Support, jackfournj dot com and that's the number four, jackfournj
dot com.
Speaker 10 (45:04):
I greatly appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Good luck, sir. That is Jack chitare We need to
do every day.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
We're happy to have you on anytime down the stretch.
Run here we can help out. But again, everybody check
that out. Get your votes in New Jersey is in play,
and Jack Chitdarelli needs to get the win for all
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Speaker 1 (48:19):
I'm not sure exactly where he is, but he's going
to be, probably almost certainly, in my always humble opinion,
the next governor of the great State of Florida. He
is Byron Donald's. He joins us now the last time
you came on with this congressman. It was to discuss
your incredible history as a fantastic cracker barrel waiter, which
people will well remember. I gotta ask you a question.
(48:40):
Buck was asking me. I know you're a big sports fan.
President Trump is at the Ryder Cup. Can you golf?
Are you any good at golf at all? Do you
even attempt it? I have an awful golf shot. I
love pretty much every sport. But I don't know. Are
you paying attention to the Ryder Cup? Have you gotten
out on the golf course? How would you assess your game?
Speaker 10 (49:00):
I sank and drink transfused there. I enjoy myself. Actually,
I just don't really can't count the strokes.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, well join the club. So you are with us. Now.
We got a potential shutdown going on in the Congress.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
We'll get to that, but I wanted to start with
this because Buck now lives in Miami. He's potentially going
to be your constituent. I've got a place in North Florida.
I love it and the culture of Florida. You're in
South Florida. You got into this thing because you looked
around and just said, man, we're making a lot of
bad decisions. I saw the story about Trump potentially getting
his presidential library in Miami, and I thought about you
(49:38):
in that context, because you, I think, are representative of
the transformation that we have seen in the state of
Florida over the last decade. For people who don't know,
I think maybe sharing your story of how you ended
up doing what you're doing and why you want to
be the next governor of Florida would be a good
jumping off point. Using that library as a point of
a demarcation.
Speaker 10 (50:00):
Well, I mean before twenty ten, I was a registered Democrat.
I got in I started getting interested in politics through
the two thousand and eight financial collapse. My career was
financial services, That's where my career started, and I was
I had to do research for my company in order
to keep one of our investors in the company. Came
(50:20):
across Congress and I was like, what the hell is
this mess? These people don't know what they're talking about.
They actually actually kept sound quite dumb, and I just
started paying attention to politics, started reading articles, started reading
about books on political philosophy. Found out I was actually
quite conservative, and and so you know, when it was
when I was you know, in the Tea Party movement
(50:41):
locally in Naples, Florida, in the Tea Party movement, and
I'm getting ready for the mid term elections. I looked
at my voter registration. I was like, why am I
still registered like a Democrat? I don't think like one.
I'm very conservative. So I switched parties after that. Locally,
I got asked to run for office. Did not think
that was a are going to be on my personal
(51:02):
binkle card of what I was going to do with
my life. And so then so then what I decided
to do was, you know, jump in and see what
happened if I was an activist out of my local
tea party area. Worked hard, really just was trying to
do the best to represent conservative values as I believe
them and as I decided to follow the conservative movement.
(51:26):
And then before you know it, I'm in the state House.
Then I got elected to Congress, and here we go, and.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
Now you're running for governor in my home state of Florida.
Congress and Donalds, which has honestly been on a hot streak.
It's been going very well. I've been very pleased with
the governance in my state since I moved a few
years ago, What are some of the top things that
you would want to do if you become governor. I
have to ask because I and I'm curious for me.
(51:55):
But we also have a huge Florida audience. You know,
twenty one million people live in the great state of floor.
So it's a it's a substantial it's a big gig,
it's a big job.
Speaker 10 (52:04):
Well, first is you know, when it comes to the
costs of living at Florida Insurance, we you know, we've
the governor has done some great work and Governor Desantrus
has done a great job as our governor, but we
still have more work to do in trying to stabilize
our insurance market for Floridians. When it comes to property taxes,
our homeowners need reform, That's just the way it is.
They need they need to reform. They need a relief
(52:26):
from local property taxes. When it comes to our the
future of our economy, we're going to be the financial
capital of the world in a decade. We're gonna bring
a lot of manufacturing and and defense and aerospace and
tech companies and jobs to our state. Because Cape Canaveral
is doing all of the launches. But I'll tell you
(52:46):
the biggest question I get no matter where I am
in Florida is are you going to keep us going
on the conservative trajectory that we're on? Are we going
to continue to be the free state of Florida? And
my answer to the people of Florida as a resounding yes,
I'm a conservative out of the Tea Party movement. I'm
a House Freedom Caucus member. I have one of the
most conservative voting records in the country and also in
(53:10):
the state of Florida. And whether it's law and order,
whether it's backing our police, making sure it woke and
DEI is not in our schools in doctrinated our kids,
having common sense economic policies that allow people to just
chase their dreams here in Florida. That's what I'm about.
That's where the state is going to continue to be,
and we're just going to take Florida to a whole
(53:31):
other level.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
We're talking to Byron Donald's next governor of the State
of Florida. Byron, you're a dad like both of us are.
And I know you knew Charlie Kirk. Well, where were
you when you heard about the assassination? What was your
relationship like with Charlie and what do you think the
legacy of his activism should be as we all go forward.
Speaker 10 (53:55):
I was in my office in Washington. I was actually
in the middle of a meeting. My common as director
called me out, which he almost never does, so I would.
I was like, Oh, what's happening? And uh, you know,
he showed me the video and honestly, I just doubled over.
I doubled over. It was It was painful to watch,
(54:16):
and you know, you try to do your best to
kind of stay on track and take care of your business.
And and then the news started coming across that uh
that that Charlie had had had died from that assassin's bullet.
He was he was special man. He's one of one.
I know. We were planning on doing like campus tours
(54:37):
throughout Florida over the next year, something that we were
we were we had had conversations about uh, his his
his team and my team were we're trying to work
through that. But on a broader level, we Charlie Kirk
he has changed the political fabric in this country for conservatism,
and he did it facing his dream of bringing young
(54:59):
people into the political debate of what conservative policy actually is,
what Western civilization is, how great that is, and why
your dale Christian values are the value set that allow
people to thrive and be successful. And I don't think
we would be in a position we are right now,
not just a Republican Party, but the conservative movement without
(55:20):
Charlie Kirk like he's going to be missed and he's
not going to be replaced.
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Speaking to Congressman Donald's out of Florida and a congressman,
I did want to get you to weigh in on
this if I could. We tend to take a somewhat
cynical view I think of shutdown negotiations. Can you just
give us some insight onto this whole situation. If there's
anything that's important that's an issue as you see it,
(55:45):
what is it and where is all this going?
Speaker 10 (55:49):
The way I look at it, Chuck Schumer doesn't want
to look like he's being bullieved. Who's telling you straight.
When Chuck Schumer worked with President Trump to keep the
government open, he took a lot grief from the radicals
in his party. And you know, I think if the
government shuts down, it's because he is going to bend
the knee to the radicals and the Democrat Party. I mean, look,
(56:10):
Donald Trump has delivered on the agenda that he promised
the American people. The Democrats were soundly rejected last November.
Elections do have consequences, and so if Chuck Schumer wants
to shut down the government, to have a Schumer shut down,
it's simply because he wants the radical left policies that
the American people rejected to be funded by Donald Trump
(56:31):
and executed by Donald Trump. And that's not going to
happen period, which everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
We're talking about Iron Donald's. You're a big sports fan.
You're running for governor of Florida next week. I know
it's a week out. Miami is traveling to Florida State.
Your Seminoles have bounced back after a disastrous game, and
I got to tell you, I think the last time
we had you on, I was telling you I went
to the Alabama Florida State game. People were phenomenal, so great.
(57:00):
The stadium has been renovated. It looks spectacular. What is
going to happen when those two great Florida college dynasties
historically go head to head next Saturday.
Speaker 10 (57:12):
The Knowles you already know what's going to happen Florida State.
I was actually asked in a room in Miami and
I said, I'm taking the Knowles plus five and a half.
I said, that's my own personal line. I have no
idea what Vegas has the line at, but I got
the Knowles. I got the Knowles by five and a half.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
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in a row or what do.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
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Speaker 1 (57:35):
Very well with prize picks. I've hit three different picks
in the first four weeks. These are Thursday NFL. I'm
on fire. I would have been happy for that for
the full season. In fact, by the way, Congressman, your
team is playing tonight in Charlottesville. I don't know what
part of the country you're in right now, but FSU is.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
On the road.
Speaker 10 (57:54):
I'm in Tampa right now.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
So do you plan events around so you can try
to be able to watch games. I mean, I hear
from different guys that they try to do that. I'm
curious if you look at the schedule and you're like, hey,
maybe we can do that in the morning, maybe we
can do that in the evening. Do you try to
build around a little bit so you can keep an
eye on games.
Speaker 10 (58:13):
Nah, I mean, just stay focused, man. I the schedule
is set. We just we run the gauntlet and do
what we need to do. I love my knowls, I
love sports in general, but not in this time period
running for governors of all hands on deck situation. So
I'll either catch the highlights or you know, if I'm
really blessed, what will happen is And this is what
(58:35):
happened with the Alabama Florida state game. I was keynoting
at dinner on the other side of the state and
they had a you know, a pretty decent program. It
was pretty long, so you know, I pulled up, you know,
you know, the the game on my phone and I
sat there at the head table and was watching the
game while I was talking to people. It was it
was actually a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
Good luck tonight and good luck next week to the seminoles,
and we'll talk to you again soon. But keep up
the good work on the campaign as well.
Speaker 10 (59:03):
All right, take it in the guys. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
That's Byron Donald's next governor of the state of Florida.
I believe we'll see what happens. And Buck just gave
me a nice tease there because three out of the
last four weeks the NFL season.
Speaker 2 (59:16):
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Speaker 1 (59:17):
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field goal to win to start off the weekend of
activities in the NFL, and we won. We have won
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