September 30, 2025 • 62 mins
The Kick Ass Standard
President Trump’s announcement on prescription drug pricing, revealing that Pfizer will now offer medications at “most favored nation” prices, a move aimed at reducing costs for American consumers. Clay then shifts to a fiery cultural debate sparked by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth’s speech to military leaders, emphasizing a return to strict physical standards and meritocracy in the U.S. Armed Forces.
Hegseth rejects DEI mandates and insists on combat readiness over diversity quotas, sparking a broader conversation about whether elite positions in the military—or any field—should reflect demographics or prioritize performance. Clay uses examples from Olympic basketball and the National Spelling Bee to argue that excellence rarely mirrors population diversity and that merit should always come first.
Golden Handcuffs
An in-depth discussion on JK Rowling’s viral takedown of Emma Watson and the gender ideology debate. Clay praises Rowling’s courage in standing against what she calls “gender insanity,” reading excerpts from her powerful statement that has garnered tens of millions of views. He challenges wealthy and influential Americans to show similar bravery in defending truth and common sense.
OK Sen. Markwayne Mullin
Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin does a deep dive into the budget impasse, blaming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for obstructing a “clean CR” (Continuing Resolution) due to pressure from progressive challengers like AOC. Mullin outlines the shutdown’s impact on military pay, federal employees, and mandatory vs. discretionary spending, while criticizing continued COVID-era healthcare subsidies and Obamacare enrollment for undocumented immigrants—a $350 billion taxpayer burden, he claims.
Mullin and Travis assert that Donald Trump’s 2024 landslide victory was a rejection of socialism and far-left policies. They argue the Democratic Party is now led by figures like Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar, and Jasmine Crockett, and suffering an identity crisis. Mullin also praises military fitness standards, referencing Pete Seth’s call for accountability among generals, and shares his own leadership philosophy rooted in discipline and example-setting.
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise
Congressman and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise joins the show to reflect on the Charlie Kirk shooting, drawing parallels to his own experience as a victim of political violence in 2017. Scalise emphasizes the importance of civil discourse, condemns cancel culture, and highlights the resilience of Turning Point USA, which has seen over 50,000 students express interest in launching chapters. He praises Erica Kirk’s commitment to continuing Charlie’s legacy and notes a religious revival among youth inspired by Kirk’s faith.
Scalise also discusses the House-passed funding bill, warning that Schumer and the far-left are pushing a shutdown out of political spite. He urges Democrats to prioritize governance over ideological battles. The hour closes with Scalise’s thoughts on LSU football, NIL funding, and the electrifying experience of Saturday nights in Tiger Stadium, complete with Cajun tailgating and Garth Brooks anthems.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Welcome in hope all of you are having fantastic Tuesdays
wherever you are across the country or around the world.
We have got a ton of different stories to dive
into with you. Buck is in Taiwan, as I said yesterday,
for the entire week, so he will be back on Monday.
(01:00):
A couple of the tweets that he has shared as
he has been over there doing meetings and checking out
what could become one of the major geopolitical flashpoints in
the world. He is there for this week. Like I said,
we'll be back on Monday. A couple of guests coming
your way in the third hour. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
of Oklahoma and Steve Scalise will join us as well.
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As the looming government shutdown nears closer, inches closer, and closer.
Big speech this morning by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
It can be summed up as don't be fat. If
you are a general or an admiral, you should be
in decent shape. And also the job of the military
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is to kick ass and so if you can't fulfill
basic standards for health and fitness and lethality, then you
shouldn't be serving in our armed forces. And is very
well received speech. We may play a couple of cuts
of that for you eventually. President Trump also spoke and
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has been basically speaking all day so far, and a
lot of it focused on both the military and also
now on the cost of prescription drugs. And he is
right now in the process of letting everyone know that
he is doing his best to bring down the cost
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of prescription drugs. So all of that is underway. We
are waiting news on whether Hamas is going to agree
to the Middle East Peace Plan that was laid out
yesterday near the end of the program, and we will
continue to monitor the looming as I said, government shutdown,
which is likely to not impact very many of you
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very substantially. And again I'm sorry for being cynical on this,
but eventually they're going to reach an agreement. It's going
to lead to deficits increasing and nobody's life is really
going to be that impacted. I feel like they've overplayed
their hand on the government shut down as a major
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narrative that people care about. It's been going on for
the first time I really remember becoming a major issue
was in the Clinton White House, and maybe the most
significant aspect of the Clinton government shutdown issues were that
that was when Clinton initially met Monica Lewinsky and ended
up engaging in salacious behavior in the Oval office. That
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maybe put it mildly, that may be the most consequential
thing that happened from the government shutdowns back in the
nineties was the Clinton impeachments and the Monica Lewinsky fracas.
But again, this is eventually going to get it. It's
eventually going to get itself fixed. So let's a couple
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of things just off the top, that I do think
are significant of the news. Here is Trump announcing that
Viiser will offer prescription drugs to Americans at most Favored
Nation prices. This just happened. Cut thirty two today have thrilled.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
To announce that one of the worst largest pharmaceutical manufacturers
are one of the best anywhere in the world. Adviser
has agreed to offer contitalists prescription medications and major discounts
in the United States as a result of the Most
Favored Nation Drug pricing lender that we established earlier this years.
You know, the United States is space sometimes ten times
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more than other countries for drugs, and a lot of
excuses were made for that be well for many years,
many many years, decades, and it's not going on any longer.
With every paying the lowest press you know, we're going
to be a paying one over the lowest prices favorite nations.
This will save American taxpayers and consumers hundreds of millions
of dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, so that is what's going on right now. Let
me play some of these because I do think the
cuts from Pete Hagseth earlier today talking to his generals
and his admirals is significant because what it's coming to
represent is we are pushing back aggressively against the idea
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basically that diversity is our strength, or that men and
women are the same, and that the ability of someone
basically to kick ass is not paramount. Inside of the military,
hegg Seth is saying, Look, our job is to kick ass,
and we're going to do everything that it takes to
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make sure that everyone in the military is capable of
doing that. Let's listen to a couple of these cuts,
because I do think culturally this is significant. Pete Hegseth
cut fifteen.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Today, at my direction, each service will ensure that every
requirement for every combat and will for every designated combat
arms position, returns to the highest male standard. Only because
this job is life or death, standards must be met
and not just met at every level, we should seek
to exceed the standard.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
This is important because I know a lot of you
are in the service and they have developed this idea
that there is a male standard for physicality and a
female standard for physicality, and if your job is to
kick ass, the standard should just be the kick ass standard.
Not Hey, men have to do this to qualify and
women have to do this. Lesser ability to qualify. That
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doesn't make any sense when the job actually requires ass kicking,
and so I think this is significant. It also ties
in with this Cut eighteen biology matters. Men and women
are different. Listen to Cut eighteen.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
As foolish and reckless as the Woke Department was, those
officers were following elected political leadership. An entire generation of
generals and admirals were told that they must parrot the
insane fallacy that quote, our diversity is our strength. Of course,
we know our unity is our strength. They had to
put out dizzying DEI and LGBTQI plus statements. They were
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told females and males are the same thing, or that
males who think they're females totally normal. They were told
that we need a green fleet and electric tanks. They
were told to kick out Americans who refused an emergency vaccine.
They followed civilian policies set by foolish and reckless political leaders.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, this is also a standard that Hegseth is
applying going forward when it comes to the generals and
the admirals as well, in terms of what do you
want your leadership to look like? Cut sixteen.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The New War department. Golden rule is this, do onto
your unit as you would have done onto your own
child's unit. Would you want him serving with fat or
unfit or undertrained troops, or alongside people who can't meet
basic standards, or in a unit where standards were lowered
so certain types of troops could make it in in
a unit where leaders were promoted for reasons other than
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merit performance and war fighting. The answer is not just.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
No, it's hell though.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, this is important, and the military is symbolic of
this in many ways. What the Trump administration is advocating
for is a simple and basic return to the idea
of the meritocracy. That is, the best man or the
best woman should have the most success, not the person
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who looks a certain way, and that we don't need
to have and I think this is essential integral even
we don't need to have our nation directly reflecting what
the population looks like as a whole when it comes
to elite jobs. And I'll give you an example from
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the world of sports that I've been hammering for a
long time. What Pete Hexas said, diversity is not our strength.
I think that's one hundred percent truth. Not diversity of
thought matters in many respects, But what matters is that
the most elite are able to achieve at the highest
possible level. Let me give you an example. The Olympics
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are next year. The United States men's basketball team may
not have any white, Asian or Hispanic athletes on it.
Think about that for a minute. Black men represent around
six percent of the overall population. They are going to
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have one hundred percent potentially of our US men when
it comes to the Olympic team that we put on
the court next year. And if they don't have one
hundred percent, they're going to have ninety percent or eighty
eight percent or whatever. The math is overwhelming numbers. That
is one of the foremost examples of a lack of
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diversity at elite positions anywhere in the United States. Yet
those guys are the best. If we said we need
a men's basketball team that accurately reflects the American population,
we would have sixty percent white guys. We would have
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thirteen fourteen percent. Hispanic guys we would have right around
twelve percent. This is assuming, by the way that we're
willing to acknowledge there's a biological difference. In not saying
that women should be on the team too, because that
would more perfectly reflect the American population. Right. But let's
say for the US men's basketball team, we're only going
to have men because men are better at basketball than women.
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That would mean if we did a perfect snapshot of
a man America, you'd have to fire a lot of
black guys. In fact, nine probably black guys on the
roster would lose their job and they would be replaced
by other basketball players that are not as good. And
the result would be our basketball team would perfectly reflect
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American diversity, majority white, same number of Hispanic guys as
Black guys, Asian guy, and boy. It would be a
cosmetically beautiful photo. But we get our ass kicked, probably
by a lot of other countries because in trying to
perfectly reflect American diversity on our basketball team, we would
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actually end up with a far less meritocratic team. That is,
the best players wouldn't actually make the US men's basketball team.
It's a great example for those of you out there
that have to deal with DEI all the time in
your own jobs. There's no DEI in basketball. Basketball is
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actually among the least diverse high earning jobs in America.
Nobody points to it. Nobody says, hey, what's wrong here.
They're getting this wrong. This basketball team doesn't look like America.
There's way too many black guys on it. You'd never
hear it said. And in fact, if the basketball team
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looked like America, we'd all be worse. Well, I think
you could make that argument in the military too, don't
we want the baddest ass war fighters on the planet
to rise to levels of command and to rise to
the levels of the most significant ranks in our military.
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We don't want Admiral Levine, that dude pretending to be
a chick trying to lead our troops. That isn't actually
a strength at all. In fact, it's I would argue,
an example of mental illness inside of the military, that
that is someone who is in a position of authority.
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We should want in all facets of American life the
absolute best, most talented people with the most significant jobs.
We got to bring back the meritocracy in America, and
sometimes that might mean that the positions at the absolute
apex don't one hundred percent reflect America. There's a lot
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more Asian dudes working at a high level in Silicon
Valley right now, than there are Asian dudes in the country.
Is that racism, No, it's that those guys have a
skill set that they are putting to work in Silicon
Valley that vastly over exceeds as a population per capita
percentage what you would expect to see. The best men
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or the best women should be at the absolute apex
in this country. That hasn't been true in the military.
So I give credit to Pete Hegseth for that speech
that he gave. Why I think it's significant culturally is
it represents a major pivot point from Joe Biden saying
I'm going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.
I'm going to pick a woman to be my vice president.
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You're not saying you're picking the best person for the job.
You're telling us that you're checking a box and in
the process you're actually delegitimizing the people that you are picking.
This is a real decision that has to be made.
The best man or the best woman, not the best
man pretending to be a woman, should be on the
metal stand when it comes to the end of every
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sporting event, and the best man or the best woman,
or some combination thereof should be in leadership everywhere. We're
going to dive into this. I'm going to go back
yesterday I mentioned JK. Rowling and what I thought was
so profound about what she I want to dive into that.
I'm gonna play some of the cuts from my Paul
Fine Mom interview that went everywhere. Don Lemon and Joy
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Reid have some thoughts on race in America, and I
think you're gonna enjoy those. And by enjoy those, I
mean you're gonna fall off your chairs. You're gonna have
to grip the steering wheel tighter because you're gonna look
around and say, I can't believe that this is what
passes for thought leadership on the left in this country.
But first, I want to tell you the two year
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anniversary of October seventh, twenty twenty three in Israel is
rapidly approaching. And this Sunday you're gonna witness a show
of support for Israel in this nation you haven't like one,
you haven't seen in a very long time, grassroots effort
to honor the memory of those loss two years ago
in the brutal Hamas terrorist attack. You'll see Israeli flags
on display and yard storefronts, cars everywhere. It's a movement
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of support for the people in Israel called the Flags
of Fellowship, and it's organized by the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Millions of Americans across our nation will
display an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the
families and victims of that Hamas terror attack. You can
be a part of this movement too. Go online to
IFCJ dot org send a message stand with Israel, Join
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the Flags of Fellowship movement. Visit the Fellowship online at
IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Org Saving America, One thought at a time. Clay Travis
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Speaker 1 (16:33):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Bock Sexton show. Yesterday, I
spent some time talking about how I have so much
admiration for jk Rowling because she is, I would argue,
one of the most fearless women in the world, one
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of the most fearless people on the planet. And you say, Okay,
what do you mean by that? Clay? Jk Rowling became
a billionaire because of the Harry Potter books, Once you
become a billionaire, you basically have no risk in life
remotely anymore. If you decide to have any easy life.
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That is, all of the all of the things that
most of us worry about on a day to day basis,
they're all eliminated from your life as a billionaire. I'm
not saying that everything in life is perfect when you
have a certain amount of money, because health can be
an issue, your family's health can be an issue. There
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are lots of things that no matter how much money
you have, there can still be issues in your life.
But in general, billionaires do not have the same concerns
that you and me and most of the rest of
us would have. And what has often frustrated me is
lots of billionaires may agree with everything I say on
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this rate program or everything you think out there listening,
but they're so concerned about what other people think about
them that they don't say what they really think. And
to me, the only reason to have money is to
have no constraints on what you are able to say,
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because otherwise you're just putting on a pair of golden handcuffs.
You ever hear that phrase golden handcuffs? Such an interesting phrase.
I never heard it because I didn't grow up with
substantial amounts of money. The first time I ever heard
it was in law school, because young lawyers, you come
out and you make a lot of money. And I
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remember somebody saying, the money's great, but really it's just
a form of golden handcuffs. Somebody a little bit older
than me, I said, what do you mean so well,
in order to make that money, you are selling your
labor to the law firm, and you are giving up
much of your life in exchange for the money that
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they're going to give you. You don't have as much
freedom when you become a young lawyer as you do
when you're a lost student. Now you have way more money,
but you have way more responsibilities, way more obligations. And
I bet a lot of you, as you have grown
in life, have come to understand that concept. Maybe you
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bought a house that's a little bit too much expensive
for you. That's a form of golden handcuffs. It's a
beautiful home, but can you pay the mortgage every month?
Maybe you bought a car that's a little bit too expensive.
Oh it looks good. Oh can you imagine what the
girls are going to think? When you pull up at
the bar in this one. Can you imagine what everybody
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in the neighborhood is going to think when you're rolling
down the street in that car. Oh, but you know,
there's a pretty big payment that comes with that car.
It's golden handcuffs. Maybe you got a kid and you're
excited because they just got into a good college or
a good private school, but you're looking at that tuition bill.
It's golden handcuffs. You have to keep working harder and harder.
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Your things may be getting nicer, but you don't really
feel that free because your expenses often are growing at
the same rate as your income, sometimes exceeding it. So
you'll look back and you'll be like, man, I thought,
if I ever made twice as much money as I
do now, I'd be fine. But somehow you have just
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as little money making twice as much money as you
did before. Right. And there are all sorts of financial
consultants out there that'll say, oh, well, it's all about budgeting,
and there's a lot of truth to that. But in life, metaphorically,
if you are too concerned about what people think about you,
you are putting golden handcuffs on yourself because you may
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not speak out and say what you really think. And
it seems to me a lot of billionaires do that.
And that's why I am so impressed with JK. Rolling.
She could have just done the Hollywood circuit where everybody
kisses her ass for the rest of her life. She
could have just relaxed on the fact that she wrote
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this seven book series Harry Potter, and they built this
fabulous Universal Studios world Harry Potter, which is truly unbelievable
and spectacular. If you've got young kids who like to
read these books, an entire generation of kid she inspired
to read. She could have just kind of wrote on
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the path of genius and wealth and only people would
have said nice things about JK. Rowling for the rest
of her life. She was on that path. But she
saw this gender insanity and she said, I can't stay
quiet about this. She saw everybody suddenly arguing men can
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become women, and she he was the person who said, actually,
that's not true. You ever notice how you've probably been
in a room where somebody has said something that you
know is not true and most people won't call it out.
You may have been in maybe it was at church
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maybe it was at business, maybe it was at a
PTA meeting. Somebody says something that everybody knows is untrue,
but everybody just feels like they have to stay quiet
because they're afraid of everybody looking at them. Jk Rowling
was like, actually, I dissent right. If you watch Curby
Your Enthusiasm. One of the funny things about the Larry
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David series, which I love, even though he's a super
left wing liberal, is that he actually says a lot
of what everybody else thinks. I think I have an
element of that in my life. What jk Rowling did, though,
was super rare minute men can become women? Oh yeah, yeah,
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this is oh good for you. You go girl. She said, no, no,
this is actually not true. And worse than that, it's
actually anti feminist. When you say a man can become
a woman, and the first flipping year he's a woman,
he gets Woman of the Year. It's not even the
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first movie he was in. He's got a penis. He
can't be the woman of the year. What are you
chicks doing? You're crazy. A lot of women just went
along with it. Jk Rowling said, no, excuse me, this
is not right, and this Emma Watson, Hermione Granger. For
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all of you out there who watched the movie. She's
been going after JK Rowling for years now over these
gender issues, and yesterday jk Rowling was woke up and
she just said, I'm sorry, I'm gonna end this bitch.
And I got to read some of what she tweeted
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yesterday because this is one hundred percent true. Last night,
when I was getting ready for bed, I turned to
my wife for getting her lights her out almost I
pulled my I was like, did you see what jk
Rowling said about Emma Watson. Wife's like, no, I didn't
see it yet. And I was like, well, let me
just read some of this for you that because I
went back last night before I was going to bed
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to reread this because it was so well said, and
I just want to hit you with a couple of
these segments. Emma Watson and her co stars have every
right to embrace gender identity ideology. This is the words
of JK Rowling. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I
wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss
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of work or violence or death because of them. But
she says, Emma and some of the other kids that
grew up on the Harry Potter set have ripped her
to shreds, and she says, years after they finished acting
in Potter, they continue to assume the role of the
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de facto spokespeople for the world I created. Well, some
of these sentences, I mean are just again they continue
to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the
world I created, says jk Rowling. I think she may
have a future in writing. I think she may one
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day be able to make a decent living. When you've
not this is jk Rowling continuing, When you've known people
since they were ten years old, it's hard to shake
a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to
throw off the memory of children who needed to be
gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio.
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For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined the invitations
from journalists to comment on Emma. I told the producers
I didn't want her to be hounded as the result
of anything I said. And then she continues. Emma asks
someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me,
which contained the single sentence I'm so sorry for what
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you're going through. She has my phone number. This was
back when the death, rape, and torture threats against me
were at their peak, at a time when my personal
security measures had to be tightened considerably, and I was
constantly worried for my family safety. Emma had just publicly
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poured more petrol on the flames. Yet thought a one
line expression of concern from her would reassure me of
her fundamental sympathy and kindness. And then this paragraph buckle up.
Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by
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wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life.
She's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need
a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on
a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if
she's been in a high street changing room since childhood.
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Her public bathroom is single occupancy and comes with a
security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had
to strip off in a newly mixed sex changing room
at a council run swimming pool. Is she ever likely
to need a state run rape crisis center that refuses
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to guarantee an all female service to find herself sharing
a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into
the women's prison. It wasn't a multi millionaire at fourteen,
I lived in poverty while writing the book that made
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Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience,
what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has
so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.
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Adults can't expect to cozy up to an activist movement
that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their
right to the former friend's love as though the friend
was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to
disagree with me, and indeed to discuss her feelings about
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me and public. But I have the same right, and
I finally decided to exercise it wholely. Crap. That thing
has fifty eight million views right now on Twitter, and
the reason I wanted to share it was twofold one.
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We need more JK Rowlings, more people who are fearlessly
willing to stand for what is right, particularly those of
you out there. And this is directly addressed to you
who have the money and wherewithal to do so, why
are you such cowards? Why do you continue to try
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and stay behind the scenes because you're worried about what
people might say to you when you know that they
are wrong. Two. I think there are a lot of
you that are parents and grandparents that can particularly connect
with what jk Rowling said There. You have gone through
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struggles that your kids and your grandkids kids, if you
are fortunate enough to have built for them, can never
even comprehend. They don't even know what they don't know.
And I just I love I've never met JK Rowling,
I don't know that I ever will, but when I
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read that, it is so perfectly said on so many
different levels that I wanted to make sure that I
shared it with all of you. We'll link it on
Clay and Buck, but I think if you go read
it for yourself, most of us are not going to
write best selling novels and become multi billionaires, but all
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of us in our lives are going to be dealing
with young people who are oftentimes standing on the shoulders
of giants, and they have no idea that that's what's
going on. Another way of putting it is they're standing
on third base and they think they hit a triple.
They've got no idea what actually has to happen and
in life for them to have had the opportunity they
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have been given. So earlier in the show, I came
out against DEI I'm also against people who haven't achieved
anything thinking that they are the greatest in their line
of work. As she said, she had no money when
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We're headed up to d C for this third hour,
and we are joined now by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
and let's dive right into it. Is there going to
(34:27):
be a shutdown? And if so, Senator, how is it
going to impact the average listener of hours out there
right now?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
So Klaith, thanks for having me on, And yes, I
don't see there's any way in the world we have
avoid to shut down the Chuck Schumer is so scared
of AOC in his own state running against him that
he's willing to hold the American people hostage. Because what
we're doing here is we're putting a clean CR. Clean
CR means that's the same funding same language that Chuck
(34:59):
Schumer voted for six months ago, and the same language
he voted for a year ago. So this nothing has
changed that he's voted already twice on this same funding package,
except now he's been threatened that if he votes for
it from the left that they're going to primary him,
and AOC is either going to run against him or
(35:19):
going to find somebody run against him. So he's running
scared and he's holding the American people hostage over it.
If that happens and we do go to a shutdown,
which Clay, I don't see there's any way we avoid it.
At this point, I think we're going to Chuck Schumer shutdown.
It's not really going to affect anybody for the first
two weeks, and it depends on what is deemed essential
(35:43):
and non essential. That's the president's discretion at the time.
But for those in the military, they get paid October first,
all their paychecks will still go out, They'll be paid
in full. On the second is when federal employees get paid,
their paychecks already process, they will go out and they
will be paid in full. When every all Social Security benefits, Medicare,
(36:08):
Medicaid benefits will still be intact, still be moving forward
because that's discretionary or that's mandatory spending, not discretionary. We're
fighting over to discretionary spending at this point and so
the But in two weeks on the October fifteenth and sixteenth,
if we are still shut down, then federal employees and
(36:29):
military won't be paid because why because you have a
career politician and Chuck Schumer who has who has decided
that his job is more important than keeping the American
people in the government funded.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
What is the dispute over right now?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
In a way so as quick as as you can
put it there is the dispute is really over their
hatred towards President Trump. So the question is is what
is their demand their demand on funding levels. By the way,
that they've already voted for already twice, and they voted
for a CR thirteen times underneath Biden. The difference now
(37:08):
is Trump's in office and they want to slow walk
any policies that he has, regardless of the American people
elected President Trump and kicked out their agenda because it
was horrible for America put President Trump in place in November.
What they're a demand is now is they want to
extend a policy that they had put in place during
(37:29):
COVID that they could have made permanent, but they knew
that it was temporary to basically subsidize ACA affordable health care,
which affordable healthcare is supposed to be affordable, right, But
during COVID, they put a subsidy in that waighed all requirements,
meaning there was no proof of citizenship, there was no
(37:50):
proof of income that you needed help for anything. Everybody
was eligible for this subsidy, and they funded insurance companies
to allow them to sign up people unchecked. And this
is a tune of about three hundred and fifty billion
dollars to the taxpayers. Now, COVID is over, and they
(38:11):
intended for this to shut down to begin with because
they sunset. They were in control of the government at
the time, complete control. They could have made it permanent
they wanted to, they decided not to. And so now
they're saying that they want this extended. And we're saying, wait,
COVID is over, why do we need to be paying
a subsidy to insurance companies now that are making record profits.
(38:33):
Which I'm all about people making profits, but why are
the taxpayers still subsidizing that? And why are we allowing
illegal aliens to get these benefits for free? Because those
that carame here over illegally, they should be getting shipped back.
That's what the American people voted for in November. But
this extends that covers them. Why Because there's no checks
and balances to say that they're eligible or not. They
(38:55):
just automatically get enrolled into Obamacare. And that's what Chuck
Schumer is so basically to still have taxpayers pay for
these illegals to have health care insurance.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
We're talking to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Inevitably,
these issues eventually get decided. And, by the way, along
with virtually everybody listening right now, what Democrats are seeking
is absurd. Do you think we'll have a resolution before
October fifteenth, before individuals paychecks could be impacted?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Well, you know, I always tell people I'm good for
a big fight and a good fight as long as
I know what victory looks like and it's possible to win.
But if you go into a fight, which is what
the Democrats are doing here, what does victory look like
for them? Because it's hard for them to explain that
it's that a clean cr that they've already supported twice.
Why they wouldn't could what's different today than it was
(39:53):
a year ago or six months ago. So I would
assume they would come to their senses before that. But
you can't reason with crazy, and that's what Chuck Schumer
is right now. He's crazy. He's running scared. You've got
to keep in mind in nineteen ninety six, when I
was a senior in high school, which was twenty nine
years ago, Chuck Schumer then was a congressman. He went
(40:14):
on the House for railed against benefits going to illegal
aliens that came to this country legally. That was in
nineteen ninety six. Oh yeah, Now he's willing to shut
down the government as a senator and as a Democrat
leader over giving benefits to illegals. So you can't rationalize
with that kind of thinking. So I would assume that people,
(40:34):
you know, cooler heads would come to the table and
they would accept the clean cr But you can't at
this point. You can't rationalize what they're even thinking here.
You can't is my mama said, you can't argue with crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think that's well said by your mama. By the way. Also,
we're around the same age, and a lot of Democrat
talking points in the nine are actually Republican talking points
now for people like Chuck Schumer who were involved long enough,
I mean Bill Clinton, heck, nineteen ninety two would be
a Republican now, I mean, in all seriousness, if you
(41:12):
go back and look at.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
It, Democrat party for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, when you look at the what happened in the
November election about eleven months ago, Trump won a landslide,
won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, kicked
Kamala's ass coast to coast. Democrats had two choices. One,
they could look in the mirror and they could say,
as I think a lot of people try to do.
(41:36):
I don't know. I know you were involved in sports
back in the day. Sometimes you get beat and you say, boy,
we really beat ourselves. We didn't execute the game plan
we had. You know, we turned the ball over too much.
If we had played like we expect to play, we
would have won. Your game plan. Then you just have
to go execute it better. Other times you get your
(41:56):
ass kicked and you're like, boy, that seems a lot
better than us, and either we're going to have to
change our game plan, change the trajectory, or we're just
going to keep getting our ass kick going forward. Seems
to me that Democrats had a choice, Senator. They can
look at the mirror and say they heard our message,
they didn't like it, and we got beat accordingly. Or
or they could say we just got to double and
(42:18):
triple and quadruple down on crazy. It seems like they
chose the second option, which just means they're going to
keep getting their ass kicked, probably even worse.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Well, to use your sports analogy, it's like the kid
that gets beat in wrestling because the wrestling is our family.
And you get beat and you blame it on the
ref every time, and you don't realize as part of
your practice habits and your training partners, and it's what
you put in that you're not getting back out, and
so it's easier to blame somebody else, and so you
double down on the blame game. Well, that's exactly what's
(42:48):
happening here. You're absolutely correct. Instead of them taking a
licking and looking back as we call Oklahoma right, you're
taking a licking. That's when you get beat. When you
get beat and taking and looking back and going why
some of the best lessons learned is when you lose,
because if you reevaluate it and you can learn what
you did wrong correct it, you'll only be stronger and better.
(43:10):
Or you double down and blame somebody else. They're blaming
the American people, the Democrats. They're blaming the American people, saying,
you got it wrong, you got it wrong, you didn't
understand what you voted for, you got it wrong. Well,
actually they didn't. They knew exactly what they're voting against
because they had four years of it. They had four
(43:30):
years of embarrassment from an administration that wanted to go
away what all the American values have always traditionally stood for.
They wanted to go away from what America has stood
for and move us towards socialism. And it didn't work.
It was an experiment that felled. And so now the
left is running this running the Democrat Party. You could
(43:53):
go to JFK and you say the same thing that
you did about Clinton. JFKA wouldn't belong to this party anymore.
And and when he says that they're the party of JFK,
that's not accurate because this party is the is the
party of Madamie or however you say his name, you know,
a communist socialist. This is a party of AOC and
Bernie Sanders and and Jasmine Crockett that go out there
(44:17):
and openly claim to be uh uh a socialists.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
This is a.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Party of to leave and omar who is you know who?
Speaker 7 (44:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (44:27):
They go out there and hate America And I mean
that sincerely. And so you go, what is the where
is the Democrat Party today? They got beat because of
what they stand for, and the polling shows the Democrat
parties least popular now than they've ever been in history.
And you have leaders like Chuck Schumer and a Keem
Jefferies just lead them down this this this tumbling path
(44:50):
of identity crisis.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
What did you think of I saw your push up
pull up challenge, which you absolutely crushed that it was
like three minutes and forty seconds or something, if I
remembering off the top thy seconds. Yeah, yeah, I mean
that's ridiculous for somebody, anybody, but especially for somebody who's
on Capitol Hill. What did you think of Pete Hegseth's
(45:13):
address to the War Fighters of America this morning?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Hey, man, lead from front right. I used to when
I was running my companies and building my companies. Every
single day I tell my management team, Hey, if you
want your employees to show up on time, you need
to be there thirty minutes earlier. If you want them
there at seven thirty, you'd be there at seven. If
you want to work late, you work thirty minutes past
they do. If you want them to answer the phone
when you call, you better always answer your phone. And
by the way, if you want them to show up
(45:37):
with a clean shirt and clean pants on every day,
then your shirts needs to be starched. If we're having
and this is what's always bugged me about coaches too.
Coaches are coaching athletes. They have access to every piece
of equipment and every trainer that their athletes do. There's
no excuse why a coach in football wrestle in bath
bunk or what it is that's out of shape when
(45:58):
you're trying to get your players and and and your
athletes in shape. And the military, you're fighting for the
heart of our country. You're fighting for the existence of
our country. You're you're protecting the freedoms of those home
and abroad. And we should we we should expect excellence.
And if you're going to expect excellence, then the generals
(46:21):
who's leading from the front need to need to express
that and show that every single day in themselves because
they set the standard. And and no one's going to
lead or meet that standard unless that leader is meeting
that standard too. And so whatever your expectations are, you
need to put it. You need to set yours higher
(46:43):
than what everybody else is below. So I commend Heckseth
in saying this, We're going to get our butts in
shape of fat generals and fat admirals walking through the
Pentagon is no more. And and I commend him for that.
I I I actually see him a text mess and
I said, Braddie, my my is pumping with pride for
what you just said.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Amen. Center, we appreciate the time. Let us know when
you need to come back on, and we appreciate you
sharing at Capitol Hill with us.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Thanks Clayton, see you bye.
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Speaker 1 (49:04):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're joined now by
Congressman Steve Scalise. He has been through a lot and
we're going to run through all of the all the
things coming up with a big turning point event that
he is going to be a part of shortly. But Congressman,
(49:25):
I want to start with we haven't had you on
since the Charlie Kirk shooting, but you've been a victim
of political violence. You almost lost your life while you
were preparing for I believe it was the baseball game,
but just practicing with other members of your team. What
did you think when you saw the Charlie Kirk video
(49:46):
and how much of it created flashbacks for you of
what happened to you about eight years ago.
Speaker 7 (49:53):
Hey, Clay and Buck, thank you for having me. You know,
it was such a tough day. I mean, you know,
my gosh, just to just to see somebody. You know,
at the time, we didn't know Charlie was dead, but
you could just see it was something bad happened to
Charlie and that alone was just unearthing. I'm only alarming,
(50:17):
and you know it makes you angry to see that,
you know, somebody is talented, as Charlie was out there
just talking to people, I mean, you know, encouraging people
to debate in a civil way, which is what we
all should be celebrating, and to the idea that somebody
thinks they can just take away a life because they
disagree with you politically is insane and so I had
(50:41):
a lot of anger. I had, you know, just a
lot of feelings you feel for Charlie personally, for his family.
I mean, you know, he's got a young family, and
I'm thinking all those things. And then obviously along the way,
some of the you know, thoughts go back to twenty
seventeen and the shooting, you know, with me and my
other colleagues, and you know, we had a crazy that
went he wanted to kill every Republican on that ball field.
(51:03):
And this idea that you've got these people that think
you can solve your political differences with violence is it's
against everything America stands for. And it was just a
horrible day in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
We're talking with Steve Scalisi is the House Majority leader,
and he's in Louisiana's first congressional district. I'll get into
what in the world's happened to LSU's offense with you
in a moment, Congressman. Yes, but you've got a big
turning point event that you are a part of. What's
going on there. What should people know about it, and
what is the importance of this event? In the wake
(51:40):
of as we were just talking about what happened to Charlie, Well, I.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
Think something just a remarkable has come out of a
horrible situation, and that is that it really is a
woken people to say, wait a minute, we are not
going to live in fear. We're not going to allow
voice like Charlie's to you know, had this movement that
Charlie created just end, and in fact, I think the
(52:08):
movement is going to grow even stronger. You've seen Eric Erica,
his widow, just powerfully, powerfully talk about how she's going
to grow into something even bigger, and it's really happening.
I mean, you know, we've seen you know, fifty plus
thousand young people have said, I want to start a
turning Point chapter on my college campus or high school
campus where it doesn't yet exist. And we've seen a
(52:30):
lot of turning point chapters. You know, LSU, where I
went to school, We've got a turning point chapter. And
Charlie was going to be speaking in just a few
days to that campus chapter, and the event will now
go on. Our Governor Jeff Landry's going to be highlighting it,
and you know, it's saying the show must go on,
and I think you're going to see a lot more people,
(52:53):
including people maybe that never even knew what turning point
was about, who now have seen it. They've gone back
and looked at Charlie speak teaches, and he's inspired a
whole new generation of people. So this idea they were
going to silence it is truly backfired. I mean, I
think you've seen, you've seen the movement already grow stronger
and young people will not be silenced. Young people look,
(53:14):
they're sick and tired of these leftists telling him what
to do and how to think. And you've got to
hate institutions and religion. And it's also brought a new
awakening in religion, people going to church for the first
time and understanding and Charlie had such a deep faith
in God, as do I. People now I think are
maybe getting back in touch with God too, and that's
(53:35):
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
You mentioned the impact that Charlie's having. I interviewed Paul Feinbaum.
I know you're a college football fan, as was Charlie,
and Paul told me he's thinking about running for the
Senate in Alabama as partly a result of what he
saw happened to Charlie Kirk. He just left him shaken
and he wanted to think about what he could do
(53:59):
to be the most impactful in his life. I think
that you are hearing, as you mentioned, a lot of
people from all walks of life, regardless of what their
background is, sitting around and thinking, how can I embody
the courage that Charlie showed, that you showed after you
were shot to help take the country to a better place.
Speaker 7 (54:19):
Well, it's so true, and you know, I saw Paul's statements,
and I think you're going to see a lot more
things like that more people maybe we're on the sidelines,
or you know, maybe if you're in media, you know,
they might have been scared to speak out because you know,
the culture and media is so far Yeah, well, and
they're worried about cancel culture. I don't think people are
going to be worried about that cancel culture anymore. I
(54:40):
think it's reversing the other way, where it's you know
that the pendulums do swing in life and in politics,
and I think people are disgusted by this idea that
you know, radical leftists can just shut you up if
they don't agree with your point of view. They were
trying to do it in social media. Those days are over,
and I think the days of trying to shut people
up a presenting one point of view in mainstream media
(55:02):
over too. A few people are watching some of those
shows anyway that do that, but I think the rest
of the public wants free speech, embraces free speech, and
realizes how much it's threatened by the left. The left,
ironically are the ones who seem to want to shut
down free speech, and we're not going to let it happen.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
We're talking to see Steve Scali's congressman from Louisiana. What
should we know? Succinctly? We talked with Senator Mark Wayne
Mullen earlier this hour, But from your perspective, what should
our listeners know about the potential shutdown that would start tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (55:40):
Well, we passed a bill through the House two weeks
ago to keep government funding at funding the current levels,
and you're seeing Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the far left
fringes that one a government shut down, not for any
particular reason, but just they don't like the results of
the election last November, and the far left base, the
radical in the Democrat Party just want to fight with
(56:02):
Donald Trump, and a temper tantrum is not an excuse
to shut down the government and disrupt the lives of
millions of people. Think about it. Men and women in
uniform will not get paid. TSA agents won't get paid.
You know, federal parks are shut down. A lot of
bad things happen in people's lives that get disrupted just
because Chuck Schumer wants to have a some kind of
(56:25):
bar fight with Donald Trump because he doesn't like the
results of the election in November. Think about this. Democrats
and Republicans voted for these very same funding levels in March.
Nothing's changed since March except the far left elements that
are about to elect a Marxist in New York City
are also clamoring for a government shutdown. And ultimately it's
(56:47):
going to be up to Democrats in Congress. Are they
going to feed the craziest voices on the left? Are
they going to do the right thing? And the right
thing is keep the government funded. This isn't a permanent solution,
but at least for seven weeks short term, while we
negotiate our differences. Clearly we have differences, but you don't
have a tantrument and disrupt the lives of millions of
people during that difference to negotiation. Let's keep government funded
(57:12):
at its current levels, the bills in the Senate. So
it's all on Schumer right now. If there's a government shutdown,
it's only because Schumer decided to cave to the far
left elements of his radical base and disrupt the lives
of millions of people. I hope he doesn't do it,
and there's a chance that cooler heads will prevail, But
right now Schumer's looking for a shutdown and we'll see
(57:34):
where it goes come tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
All right, Right now, the biggest story in the state
of Louisiana is not government shutdowns. It is the Tiger offense.
So we got a lot of people listening all over
the country. But for people who don't know, LSU couldn't
stop anybody on defense last year. This year, the offense
has vanished. Our buddy Lane Kiffin, I think he's been
(57:58):
on the program up at Ole, miss celebrating a lot
of rebels, fans, big rivalry there. Really enjoyed the win. Congressman,
you got to solve everything in the world right now,
solve what's going on with your LSU Tigers. What do
they need? What's wrong?
Speaker 7 (58:15):
Yeah, well, you know, give me about another ten million
dollars in nil money. We can solve it. But now
I was in Oxford, Mississippi, and it was tough. It
was tough being I'm an LSU alum. You know, I
love my Tigers and we're going to bounce back. But
you know, we've been having some offensive problems the last
few weeks. And Garrett Nelsmyer is a great quarterback. You
could see his numbers from last year. He did have
(58:37):
an injury at the beginning of this year. Not sure
he's completely through that yet. Once you see him one
hundred percent, I think you'll see this team bounce back.
We got some tough teams ahead. We still go to Alabama,
we have A and M coming in. We go to Vanderbilt,
who's undefeated. You know, we've still got some tough games
to prove ourselves and I believe in coach Kelly. I
think they're going to bounce back. Our defense is much better,
(58:59):
you know, it's the SEC. I mean, we just lost
to the number four team in the nation. So let's
not pull the panic button, but let's get better. We
can and we have the capability with a great quarterback
to do it.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
The Grove is a spectacular place to go tailgate watch
a college football game. I'm fortunate to have been to
a bunch of games there. LSU on a Saturday night
is about as good as it gets. For people who
have never been and may never go to an LSU
Saturday night football game, what should they know about what
the experience is like.
Speaker 7 (59:33):
Well, first of all, don't deprive yourself of that treat
of being in Tiger Stadium at some point on a
Saturday night in your life. I mean, it's a box.
Everybody needs to check the tailgating alone. You got to
go up there early. I mean, just for the food experience.
You know, everybody knows what New Orleans food is like,
some of the best food in the world. You have
better Cajun chefs at some of the tailgates before the
(59:55):
game at an LSU game, then you'll get at some
of the finest restaurants in New Orleans, world class. They
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We have got a ton of different stories to dive
into with you. Buck is in Taiwan, as I said yesterday,
for the entire week, so he will be back on Monday.
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A couple of the tweets that he has shared as
he has been over there doing meetings and checking out
what could become one of the major geopolitical flashpoints in
the world. He is there for this week. Like I said,
we'll be back on Monday. A couple of guests coming
your way in the third hour. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
of Oklahoma and Steve Scalise will join us as well.
(01:22):
As the looming government shutdown nears closer, inches closer, and closer.
Big speech this morning by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
It can be summed up as don't be fat. If
you are a general or an admiral, you should be
in decent shape. And also the job of the military
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is to kick ass and so if you can't fulfill
basic standards for health and fitness and lethality, then you
shouldn't be serving in our armed forces. And is very
well received speech. We may play a couple of cuts
of that for you eventually. President Trump also spoke and
(02:08):
has been basically speaking all day so far, and a
lot of it focused on both the military and also
now on the cost of prescription drugs. And he is
right now in the process of letting everyone know that
he is doing his best to bring down the cost
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of prescription drugs. So all of that is underway. We
are waiting news on whether Hamas is going to agree
to the Middle East Peace Plan that was laid out
yesterday near the end of the program, and we will
continue to monitor the looming as I said, government shutdown,
which is likely to not impact very many of you
(02:52):
very substantially. And again I'm sorry for being cynical on this,
but eventually they're going to reach an agreement. It's going
to lead to deficits increasing and nobody's life is really
going to be that impacted. I feel like they've overplayed
their hand on the government shut down as a major
(03:13):
narrative that people care about. It's been going on for
the first time I really remember becoming a major issue
was in the Clinton White House, and maybe the most
significant aspect of the Clinton government shutdown issues were that
that was when Clinton initially met Monica Lewinsky and ended
up engaging in salacious behavior in the Oval office. That
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maybe put it mildly, that may be the most consequential
thing that happened from the government shutdowns back in the
nineties was the Clinton impeachments and the Monica Lewinsky fracas.
But again, this is eventually going to get it. It's
eventually going to get itself fixed. So let's a couple
(04:01):
of things just off the top, that I do think
are significant of the news. Here is Trump announcing that
Viiser will offer prescription drugs to Americans at most Favored
Nation prices. This just happened. Cut thirty two today have thrilled.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
To announce that one of the worst largest pharmaceutical manufacturers
are one of the best anywhere in the world. Adviser
has agreed to offer contitalists prescription medications and major discounts
in the United States as a result of the Most
Favored Nation Drug pricing lender that we established earlier this years.
You know, the United States is space sometimes ten times
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more than other countries for drugs, and a lot of
excuses were made for that be well for many years,
many many years, decades, and it's not going on any longer.
With every paying the lowest press you know, we're going
to be a paying one over the lowest prices favorite nations.
This will save American taxpayers and consumers hundreds of millions
of dollars.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, so that is what's going on right now. Let
me play some of these because I do think the
cuts from Pete Hagseth earlier today talking to his generals
and his admirals is significant because what it's coming to
represent is we are pushing back aggressively against the idea
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basically that diversity is our strength, or that men and
women are the same, and that the ability of someone
basically to kick ass is not paramount. Inside of the military,
hegg Seth is saying, Look, our job is to kick ass,
and we're going to do everything that it takes to
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make sure that everyone in the military is capable of
doing that. Let's listen to a couple of these cuts,
because I do think culturally this is significant. Pete Hegseth
cut fifteen.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Today, at my direction, each service will ensure that every
requirement for every combat and will for every designated combat
arms position, returns to the highest male standard. Only because
this job is life or death, standards must be met
and not just met at every level, we should seek
to exceed the standard.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
This is important because I know a lot of you
are in the service and they have developed this idea
that there is a male standard for physicality and a
female standard for physicality, and if your job is to
kick ass, the standard should just be the kick ass standard.
Not Hey, men have to do this to qualify and
women have to do this. Lesser ability to qualify. That
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doesn't make any sense when the job actually requires ass kicking,
and so I think this is significant. It also ties
in with this Cut eighteen biology matters. Men and women
are different. Listen to Cut eighteen.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
As foolish and reckless as the Woke Department was, those
officers were following elected political leadership. An entire generation of
generals and admirals were told that they must parrot the
insane fallacy that quote, our diversity is our strength. Of course,
we know our unity is our strength. They had to
put out dizzying DEI and LGBTQI plus statements. They were
(07:15):
told females and males are the same thing, or that
males who think they're females totally normal. They were told
that we need a green fleet and electric tanks. They
were told to kick out Americans who refused an emergency vaccine.
They followed civilian policies set by foolish and reckless political leaders.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, this is also a standard that Hegseth is
applying going forward when it comes to the generals and
the admirals as well, in terms of what do you
want your leadership to look like? Cut sixteen.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The New War department. Golden rule is this, do onto
your unit as you would have done onto your own
child's unit. Would you want him serving with fat or
unfit or undertrained troops, or alongside people who can't meet
basic standards, or in a unit where standards were lowered
so certain types of troops could make it in in
a unit where leaders were promoted for reasons other than
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merit performance and war fighting. The answer is not just.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
No, it's hell though.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, this is important, and the military is symbolic of
this in many ways. What the Trump administration is advocating
for is a simple and basic return to the idea
of the meritocracy. That is, the best man or the
best woman should have the most success, not the person
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who looks a certain way, and that we don't need
to have and I think this is essential integral even
we don't need to have our nation directly reflecting what
the population looks like as a whole when it comes
to elite jobs. And I'll give you an example from
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the world of sports that I've been hammering for a
long time. What Pete Hexas said, diversity is not our strength.
I think that's one hundred percent truth. Not diversity of
thought matters in many respects, But what matters is that
the most elite are able to achieve at the highest
possible level. Let me give you an example. The Olympics
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are next year. The United States men's basketball team may
not have any white, Asian or Hispanic athletes on it.
Think about that for a minute. Black men represent around
six percent of the overall population. They are going to
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have one hundred percent potentially of our US men when
it comes to the Olympic team that we put on
the court next year. And if they don't have one
hundred percent, they're going to have ninety percent or eighty
eight percent or whatever. The math is overwhelming numbers. That
is one of the foremost examples of a lack of
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diversity at elite positions anywhere in the United States. Yet
those guys are the best. If we said we need
a men's basketball team that accurately reflects the American population,
we would have sixty percent white guys. We would have
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thirteen fourteen percent. Hispanic guys we would have right around
twelve percent. This is assuming, by the way that we're
willing to acknowledge there's a biological difference. In not saying
that women should be on the team too, because that
would more perfectly reflect the American population. Right. But let's
say for the US men's basketball team, we're only going
to have men because men are better at basketball than women.
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That would mean if we did a perfect snapshot of
a man America, you'd have to fire a lot of
black guys. In fact, nine probably black guys on the
roster would lose their job and they would be replaced
by other basketball players that are not as good. And
the result would be our basketball team would perfectly reflect
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American diversity, majority white, same number of Hispanic guys as
Black guys, Asian guy, and boy. It would be a
cosmetically beautiful photo. But we get our ass kicked, probably
by a lot of other countries because in trying to
perfectly reflect American diversity on our basketball team, we would
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actually end up with a far less meritocratic team. That is,
the best players wouldn't actually make the US men's basketball team.
It's a great example for those of you out there
that have to deal with DEI all the time in
your own jobs. There's no DEI in basketball. Basketball is
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actually among the least diverse high earning jobs in America.
Nobody points to it. Nobody says, hey, what's wrong here.
They're getting this wrong. This basketball team doesn't look like America.
There's way too many black guys on it. You'd never
hear it said. And in fact, if the basketball team
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looked like America, we'd all be worse. Well, I think
you could make that argument in the military too, don't
we want the baddest ass war fighters on the planet
to rise to levels of command and to rise to
the levels of the most significant ranks in our military.
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We don't want Admiral Levine, that dude pretending to be
a chick trying to lead our troops. That isn't actually
a strength at all. In fact, it's I would argue,
an example of mental illness inside of the military, that
that is someone who is in a position of authority.
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We should want in all facets of American life the
absolute best, most talented people with the most significant jobs.
We got to bring back the meritocracy in America, and
sometimes that might mean that the positions at the absolute
apex don't one hundred percent reflect America. There's a lot
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more Asian dudes working at a high level in Silicon
Valley right now, than there are Asian dudes in the country.
Is that racism, No, it's that those guys have a
skill set that they are putting to work in Silicon
Valley that vastly over exceeds as a population per capita
percentage what you would expect to see. The best men
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or the best women should be at the absolute apex
in this country. That hasn't been true in the military.
So I give credit to Pete Hegseth for that speech
that he gave. Why I think it's significant culturally is
it represents a major pivot point from Joe Biden saying
I'm going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.
I'm going to pick a woman to be my vice president.
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You're not saying you're picking the best person for the job.
You're telling us that you're checking a box and in
the process you're actually delegitimizing the people that you are picking.
This is a real decision that has to be made.
The best man or the best woman, not the best
man pretending to be a woman, should be on the
metal stand when it comes to the end of every
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sporting event, and the best man or the best woman,
or some combination thereof should be in leadership everywhere. We're
going to dive into this. I'm going to go back
yesterday I mentioned JK. Rowling and what I thought was
so profound about what she I want to dive into that.
I'm gonna play some of the cuts from my Paul
Fine Mom interview that went everywhere. Don Lemon and Joy
(15:06):
Reid have some thoughts on race in America, and I
think you're gonna enjoy those. And by enjoy those, I
mean you're gonna fall off your chairs. You're gonna have
to grip the steering wheel tighter because you're gonna look
around and say, I can't believe that this is what
passes for thought leadership on the left in this country.
But first, I want to tell you the two year
(15:28):
anniversary of October seventh, twenty twenty three in Israel is
rapidly approaching. And this Sunday you're gonna witness a show
of support for Israel in this nation you haven't like one,
you haven't seen in a very long time, grassroots effort
to honor the memory of those loss two years ago
in the brutal Hamas terrorist attack. You'll see Israeli flags
on display and yard storefronts, cars everywhere. It's a movement
(15:49):
of support for the people in Israel called the Flags
of Fellowship, and it's organized by the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Millions of Americans across our nation will
display an Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the
families and victims of that Hamas terror attack. You can
be a part of this movement too. Go online to
IFCJ dot org send a message stand with Israel, Join
(16:12):
the Flags of Fellowship movement. Visit the Fellowship online at
IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot.
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Org Saving America, One thought at a time. Clay Travis
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Speaker 1 (16:33):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Bock Sexton show. Yesterday, I
spent some time talking about how I have so much
admiration for jk Rowling because she is, I would argue,
one of the most fearless women in the world, one
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of the most fearless people on the planet. And you say, Okay,
what do you mean by that? Clay? Jk Rowling became
a billionaire because of the Harry Potter books, Once you
become a billionaire, you basically have no risk in life
remotely anymore. If you decide to have any easy life.
(17:17):
That is, all of the all of the things that
most of us worry about on a day to day basis,
they're all eliminated from your life as a billionaire. I'm
not saying that everything in life is perfect when you
have a certain amount of money, because health can be
an issue, your family's health can be an issue. There
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are lots of things that no matter how much money
you have, there can still be issues in your life.
But in general, billionaires do not have the same concerns
that you and me and most of the rest of
us would have. And what has often frustrated me is
lots of billionaires may agree with everything I say on
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this rate program or everything you think out there listening,
but they're so concerned about what other people think about
them that they don't say what they really think. And
to me, the only reason to have money is to
have no constraints on what you are able to say,
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because otherwise you're just putting on a pair of golden handcuffs.
You ever hear that phrase golden handcuffs? Such an interesting phrase.
I never heard it because I didn't grow up with
substantial amounts of money. The first time I ever heard
it was in law school, because young lawyers, you come
out and you make a lot of money. And I
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remember somebody saying, the money's great, but really it's just
a form of golden handcuffs. Somebody a little bit older
than me, I said, what do you mean so well,
in order to make that money, you are selling your
labor to the law firm, and you are giving up
much of your life in exchange for the money that
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they're going to give you. You don't have as much
freedom when you become a young lawyer as you do
when you're a lost student. Now you have way more money,
but you have way more responsibilities, way more obligations. And
I bet a lot of you, as you have grown
in life, have come to understand that concept. Maybe you
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bought a house that's a little bit too much expensive
for you. That's a form of golden handcuffs. It's a
beautiful home, but can you pay the mortgage every month?
Maybe you bought a car that's a little bit too expensive.
Oh it looks good. Oh can you imagine what the
girls are going to think? When you pull up at
the bar in this one. Can you imagine what everybody
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in the neighborhood is going to think when you're rolling
down the street in that car. Oh, but you know,
there's a pretty big payment that comes with that car.
It's golden handcuffs. Maybe you got a kid and you're
excited because they just got into a good college or
a good private school, but you're looking at that tuition bill.
It's golden handcuffs. You have to keep working harder and harder.
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Your things may be getting nicer, but you don't really
feel that free because your expenses often are growing at
the same rate as your income, sometimes exceeding it. So
you'll look back and you'll be like, man, I thought,
if I ever made twice as much money as I
do now, I'd be fine. But somehow you have just
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as little money making twice as much money as you
did before. Right. And there are all sorts of financial
consultants out there that'll say, oh, well, it's all about budgeting,
and there's a lot of truth to that. But in life, metaphorically,
if you are too concerned about what people think about you,
you are putting golden handcuffs on yourself because you may
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not speak out and say what you really think. And
it seems to me a lot of billionaires do that.
And that's why I am so impressed with JK. Rolling.
She could have just done the Hollywood circuit where everybody
kisses her ass for the rest of her life. She
could have just relaxed on the fact that she wrote
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this seven book series Harry Potter, and they built this
fabulous Universal Studios world Harry Potter, which is truly unbelievable
and spectacular. If you've got young kids who like to
read these books, an entire generation of kid she inspired
to read. She could have just kind of wrote on
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the path of genius and wealth and only people would
have said nice things about JK. Rowling for the rest
of her life. She was on that path. But she
saw this gender insanity and she said, I can't stay
quiet about this. She saw everybody suddenly arguing men can
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become women, and she he was the person who said, actually,
that's not true. You ever notice how you've probably been
in a room where somebody has said something that you
know is not true and most people won't call it out.
You may have been in maybe it was at church
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maybe it was at business, maybe it was at a
PTA meeting. Somebody says something that everybody knows is untrue,
but everybody just feels like they have to stay quiet
because they're afraid of everybody looking at them. Jk Rowling
was like, actually, I dissent right. If you watch Curby
Your Enthusiasm. One of the funny things about the Larry
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David series, which I love, even though he's a super
left wing liberal, is that he actually says a lot
of what everybody else thinks. I think I have an
element of that in my life. What jk Rowling did, though,
was super rare minute men can become women? Oh yeah, yeah,
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this is oh good for you. You go girl. She said, no, no,
this is actually not true. And worse than that, it's
actually anti feminist. When you say a man can become
a woman, and the first flipping year he's a woman,
he gets Woman of the Year. It's not even the
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first movie he was in. He's got a penis. He
can't be the woman of the year. What are you
chicks doing? You're crazy. A lot of women just went
along with it. Jk Rowling said, no, excuse me, this
is not right, and this Emma Watson, Hermione Granger. For
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all of you out there who watched the movie. She's
been going after JK Rowling for years now over these
gender issues, and yesterday jk Rowling was woke up and
she just said, I'm sorry, I'm gonna end this bitch.
And I got to read some of what she tweeted
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yesterday because this is one hundred percent true. Last night,
when I was getting ready for bed, I turned to
my wife for getting her lights her out almost I
pulled my I was like, did you see what jk
Rowling said about Emma Watson. Wife's like, no, I didn't
see it yet. And I was like, well, let me
just read some of this for you that because I
went back last night before I was going to bed
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to reread this because it was so well said, and
I just want to hit you with a couple of
these segments. Emma Watson and her co stars have every
right to embrace gender identity ideology. This is the words
of JK Rowling. Such beliefs are legally protected, and I
wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with loss
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of work or violence or death because of them. But
she says, Emma and some of the other kids that
grew up on the Harry Potter set have ripped her
to shreds, and she says, years after they finished acting
in Potter, they continue to assume the role of the
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de facto spokespeople for the world I created. Well, some
of these sentences, I mean are just again they continue
to assume the role of de facto spokespeople for the
world I created, says jk Rowling. I think she may
have a future in writing. I think she may one
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day be able to make a decent living. When you've
not this is jk Rowling continuing, When you've known people
since they were ten years old, it's hard to shake
a certain protectiveness. Until quite recently, I hadn't managed to
throw off the memory of children who needed to be
gently coaxed through their dialogue in a big scary film studio.
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For the past few years, I've repeatedly declined the invitations
from journalists to comment on Emma. I told the producers
I didn't want her to be hounded as the result
of anything I said. And then she continues. Emma asks
someone to pass on a handwritten note from her to me,
which contained the single sentence I'm so sorry for what
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you're going through. She has my phone number. This was
back when the death, rape, and torture threats against me
were at their peak, at a time when my personal
security measures had to be tightened considerably, and I was
constantly worried for my family safety. Emma had just publicly
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poured more petrol on the flames. Yet thought a one
line expression of concern from her would reassure me of
her fundamental sympathy and kindness. And then this paragraph buckle up.
Like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by
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wealth and fame, Emma has so little experience of real life.
She's ignorant of how ignorant she is. She'll never need
a homeless shelter. She's never going to be placed on
a mixed sex public hospital ward. I'd be astounded if
she's been in a high street changing room since childhood.
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Her public bathroom is single occupancy and comes with a
security man standing guard outside the door. Has she had
to strip off in a newly mixed sex changing room
at a council run swimming pool. Is she ever likely
to need a state run rape crisis center that refuses
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to guarantee an all female service to find herself sharing
a prison cell with a male rapist who's identified into
the women's prison. It wasn't a multi millionaire at fourteen,
I lived in poverty while writing the book that made
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Emma famous. I therefore understand from my own life experience,
what the trashing of women's rights in which Emma has
so enthusiastically participated means to women and girls without her privileges.
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Adults can't expect to cozy up to an activist movement
that regularly calls for a friend's assassination, then assert their
right to the former friend's love as though the friend
was in fact their mother. Emma is rightly free to
disagree with me, and indeed to discuss her feelings about
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me and public. But I have the same right, and
I finally decided to exercise it wholely. Crap. That thing
has fifty eight million views right now on Twitter, and
the reason I wanted to share it was twofold one.
(29:12):
We need more JK Rowlings, more people who are fearlessly
willing to stand for what is right, particularly those of
you out there. And this is directly addressed to you
who have the money and wherewithal to do so, why
are you such cowards? Why do you continue to try
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and stay behind the scenes because you're worried about what
people might say to you when you know that they
are wrong. Two. I think there are a lot of
you that are parents and grandparents that can particularly connect
with what jk Rowling said There. You have gone through
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struggles that your kids and your grandkids kids, if you
are fortunate enough to have built for them, can never
even comprehend. They don't even know what they don't know.
And I just I love I've never met JK Rowling,
I don't know that I ever will, but when I
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read that, it is so perfectly said on so many
different levels that I wanted to make sure that I
shared it with all of you. We'll link it on
Clay and Buck, but I think if you go read
it for yourself, most of us are not going to
write best selling novels and become multi billionaires, but all
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of us in our lives are going to be dealing
with young people who are oftentimes standing on the shoulders
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We're headed up to d C for this third hour,
and we are joined now by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
and let's dive right into it. Is there going to
(34:27):
be a shutdown? And if so, Senator, how is it
going to impact the average listener of hours out there
right now?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
So Klaith, thanks for having me on, And yes, I
don't see there's any way in the world we have
avoid to shut down the Chuck Schumer is so scared
of AOC in his own state running against him that
he's willing to hold the American people hostage. Because what
we're doing here is we're putting a clean CR. Clean
CR means that's the same funding same language that Chuck
(34:59):
Schumer voted for six months ago, and the same language
he voted for a year ago. So this nothing has
changed that he's voted already twice on this same funding package,
except now he's been threatened that if he votes for
it from the left that they're going to primary him,
and AOC is either going to run against him or
(35:19):
going to find somebody run against him. So he's running
scared and he's holding the American people hostage over it.
If that happens and we do go to a shutdown,
which Clay, I don't see there's any way we avoid it.
At this point, I think we're going to Chuck Schumer shutdown.
It's not really going to affect anybody for the first
two weeks, and it depends on what is deemed essential
(35:43):
and non essential. That's the president's discretion at the time.
But for those in the military, they get paid October first,
all their paychecks will still go out, They'll be paid
in full. On the second is when federal employees get paid,
their paychecks already process, they will go out and they
will be paid in full. When every all Social Security benefits, Medicare,
(36:08):
Medicaid benefits will still be intact, still be moving forward
because that's discretionary or that's mandatory spending, not discretionary. We're
fighting over to discretionary spending at this point and so
the But in two weeks on the October fifteenth and sixteenth,
if we are still shut down, then federal employees and
(36:29):
military won't be paid because why because you have a
career politician and Chuck Schumer who has who has decided
that his job is more important than keeping the American
people in the government funded.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
What is the dispute over right now?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
In a way so as quick as as you can
put it there is the dispute is really over their
hatred towards President Trump. So the question is is what
is their demand their demand on funding levels. By the way,
that they've already voted for already twice, and they voted
for a CR thirteen times underneath Biden. The difference now
(37:08):
is Trump's in office and they want to slow walk
any policies that he has, regardless of the American people
elected President Trump and kicked out their agenda because it
was horrible for America put President Trump in place in November.
What they're a demand is now is they want to
extend a policy that they had put in place during
(37:29):
COVID that they could have made permanent, but they knew
that it was temporary to basically subsidize ACA affordable health care,
which affordable healthcare is supposed to be affordable, right, But
during COVID, they put a subsidy in that waighed all requirements,
meaning there was no proof of citizenship, there was no
(37:50):
proof of income that you needed help for anything. Everybody
was eligible for this subsidy, and they funded insurance companies
to allow them to sign up people unchecked. And this
is a tune of about three hundred and fifty billion
dollars to the taxpayers. Now, COVID is over, and they
(38:11):
intended for this to shut down to begin with because
they sunset. They were in control of the government at
the time, complete control. They could have made it permanent
they wanted to, they decided not to. And so now
they're saying that they want this extended. And we're saying, wait,
COVID is over, why do we need to be paying
a subsidy to insurance companies now that are making record profits.
(38:33):
Which I'm all about people making profits, but why are
the taxpayers still subsidizing that? And why are we allowing
illegal aliens to get these benefits for free? Because those
that carame here over illegally, they should be getting shipped back.
That's what the American people voted for in November. But
this extends that covers them. Why Because there's no checks
and balances to say that they're eligible or not. They
(38:55):
just automatically get enrolled into Obamacare. And that's what Chuck
Schumer is so basically to still have taxpayers pay for
these illegals to have health care insurance.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
We're talking to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Inevitably,
these issues eventually get decided. And, by the way, along
with virtually everybody listening right now, what Democrats are seeking
is absurd. Do you think we'll have a resolution before
October fifteenth, before individuals paychecks could be impacted?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Well, you know, I always tell people I'm good for
a big fight and a good fight as long as
I know what victory looks like and it's possible to win.
But if you go into a fight, which is what
the Democrats are doing here, what does victory look like
for them? Because it's hard for them to explain that
it's that a clean cr that they've already supported twice.
Why they wouldn't could what's different today than it was
(39:53):
a year ago or six months ago. So I would
assume they would come to their senses before that. But
you can't reason with crazy, and that's what Chuck Schumer
is right now. He's crazy. He's running scared. You've got
to keep in mind in nineteen ninety six, when I
was a senior in high school, which was twenty nine
years ago, Chuck Schumer then was a congressman. He went
(40:14):
on the House for railed against benefits going to illegal
aliens that came to this country legally. That was in
nineteen ninety six. Oh yeah, Now he's willing to shut
down the government as a senator and as a Democrat
leader over giving benefits to illegals. So you can't rationalize
with that kind of thinking. So I would assume that people,
(40:34):
you know, cooler heads would come to the table and
they would accept the clean cr But you can't at
this point. You can't rationalize what they're even thinking here.
You can't is my mama said, you can't argue with crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think that's well said by your mama. By the way. Also,
we're around the same age, and a lot of Democrat
talking points in the nine are actually Republican talking points
now for people like Chuck Schumer who were involved long enough,
I mean Bill Clinton, heck, nineteen ninety two would be
a Republican now, I mean, in all seriousness, if you
(41:12):
go back and look at.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
It, Democrat party for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, when you look at the what happened in the
November election about eleven months ago, Trump won a landslide,
won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, kicked
Kamala's ass coast to coast. Democrats had two choices. One,
they could look in the mirror and they could say,
as I think a lot of people try to do.
(41:36):
I don't know. I know you were involved in sports
back in the day. Sometimes you get beat and you say, boy,
we really beat ourselves. We didn't execute the game plan
we had. You know, we turned the ball over too much.
If we had played like we expect to play, we
would have won. Your game plan. Then you just have
to go execute it better. Other times you get your
(41:56):
ass kicked and you're like, boy, that seems a lot
better than us, and either we're going to have to
change our game plan, change the trajectory, or we're just
going to keep getting our ass kick going forward. Seems
to me that Democrats had a choice, Senator. They can
look at the mirror and say they heard our message,
they didn't like it, and we got beat accordingly. Or
or they could say we just got to double and
(42:18):
triple and quadruple down on crazy. It seems like they
chose the second option, which just means they're going to
keep getting their ass kicked, probably even worse.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Well, to use your sports analogy, it's like the kid
that gets beat in wrestling because the wrestling is our family.
And you get beat and you blame it on the
ref every time, and you don't realize as part of
your practice habits and your training partners, and it's what
you put in that you're not getting back out, and
so it's easier to blame somebody else, and so you
double down on the blame game. Well, that's exactly what's
(42:48):
happening here. You're absolutely correct. Instead of them taking a
licking and looking back as we call Oklahoma right, you're
taking a licking. That's when you get beat. When you
get beat and taking and looking back and going why
some of the best lessons learned is when you lose,
because if you reevaluate it and you can learn what
you did wrong correct it, you'll only be stronger and better.
(43:10):
Or you double down and blame somebody else. They're blaming
the American people, the Democrats. They're blaming the American people, saying,
you got it wrong, you got it wrong, you didn't
understand what you voted for, you got it wrong. Well,
actually they didn't. They knew exactly what they're voting against
because they had four years of it. They had four
(43:30):
years of embarrassment from an administration that wanted to go
away what all the American values have always traditionally stood for.
They wanted to go away from what America has stood
for and move us towards socialism. And it didn't work.
It was an experiment that felled. And so now the
left is running this running the Democrat Party. You could
(43:53):
go to JFK and you say the same thing that
you did about Clinton. JFKA wouldn't belong to this party anymore.
And and when he says that they're the party of JFK,
that's not accurate because this party is the is the
party of Madamie or however you say his name, you know,
a communist socialist. This is a party of AOC and
Bernie Sanders and and Jasmine Crockett that go out there
(44:17):
and openly claim to be uh uh a socialists.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
This is a.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
Party of to leave and omar who is you know who?
Speaker 7 (44:27):
You know?
Speaker 5 (44:27):
They go out there and hate America And I mean
that sincerely. And so you go, what is the where
is the Democrat Party today? They got beat because of
what they stand for, and the polling shows the Democrat
parties least popular now than they've ever been in history.
And you have leaders like Chuck Schumer and a Keem
Jefferies just lead them down this this this tumbling path
(44:50):
of identity crisis.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
What did you think of I saw your push up
pull up challenge, which you absolutely crushed that it was
like three minutes and forty seconds or something, if I
remembering off the top thy seconds. Yeah, yeah, I mean
that's ridiculous for somebody, anybody, but especially for somebody who's
on Capitol Hill. What did you think of Pete Hegseth's
(45:13):
address to the War Fighters of America this morning?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Hey, man, lead from front right. I used to when
I was running my companies and building my companies. Every
single day I tell my management team, Hey, if you
want your employees to show up on time, you need
to be there thirty minutes earlier. If you want them
there at seven thirty, you'd be there at seven. If
you want to work late, you work thirty minutes past
they do. If you want them to answer the phone
when you call, you better always answer your phone. And
by the way, if you want them to show up
(45:37):
with a clean shirt and clean pants on every day,
then your shirts needs to be starched. If we're having
and this is what's always bugged me about coaches too.
Coaches are coaching athletes. They have access to every piece
of equipment and every trainer that their athletes do. There's
no excuse why a coach in football wrestle in bath
bunk or what it is that's out of shape when
(45:58):
you're trying to get your players and and and your
athletes in shape. And the military, you're fighting for the
heart of our country. You're fighting for the existence of
our country. You're you're protecting the freedoms of those home
and abroad. And we should we we should expect excellence.
And if you're going to expect excellence, then the generals
(46:21):
who's leading from the front need to need to express
that and show that every single day in themselves because
they set the standard. And and no one's going to
lead or meet that standard unless that leader is meeting
that standard too. And so whatever your expectations are, you
need to put it. You need to set yours higher
(46:43):
than what everybody else is below. So I commend Heckseth
in saying this, We're going to get our butts in
shape of fat generals and fat admirals walking through the
Pentagon is no more. And and I commend him for that.
I I I actually see him a text mess and
I said, Braddie, my my is pumping with pride for
what you just said.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Amen. Center, we appreciate the time. Let us know when
you need to come back on, and we appreciate you
sharing at Capitol Hill with us.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
Thanks Clayton, see you bye.
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Speaker 1 (49:04):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're joined now by
Congressman Steve Scalise. He has been through a lot and
we're going to run through all of the all the
things coming up with a big turning point event that
he is going to be a part of shortly. But Congressman,
(49:25):
I want to start with we haven't had you on
since the Charlie Kirk shooting, but you've been a victim
of political violence. You almost lost your life while you
were preparing for I believe it was the baseball game,
but just practicing with other members of your team. What
did you think when you saw the Charlie Kirk video
(49:46):
and how much of it created flashbacks for you of
what happened to you about eight years ago.
Speaker 7 (49:53):
Hey, Clay and Buck, thank you for having me. You know,
it was such a tough day. I mean, you know,
my gosh, just to just to see somebody. You know,
at the time, we didn't know Charlie was dead, but
you could just see it was something bad happened to
Charlie and that alone was just unearthing. I'm only alarming,
(50:17):
and you know it makes you angry to see that,
you know, somebody is talented, as Charlie was out there
just talking to people, I mean, you know, encouraging people
to debate in a civil way, which is what we
all should be celebrating, and to the idea that somebody
thinks they can just take away a life because they
disagree with you politically is insane and so I had
(50:41):
a lot of anger. I had, you know, just a
lot of feelings you feel for Charlie personally, for his family.
I mean, you know, he's got a young family, and
I'm thinking all those things. And then obviously along the way,
some of the you know, thoughts go back to twenty
seventeen and the shooting, you know, with me and my
other colleagues, and you know, we had a crazy that
went he wanted to kill every Republican on that ball field.
(51:03):
And this idea that you've got these people that think
you can solve your political differences with violence is it's
against everything America stands for. And it was just a
horrible day in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
We're talking with Steve Scalisi is the House Majority leader,
and he's in Louisiana's first congressional district. I'll get into
what in the world's happened to LSU's offense with you
in a moment, Congressman. Yes, but you've got a big
turning point event that you are a part of. What's
going on there. What should people know about it, and
what is the importance of this event? In the wake
(51:40):
of as we were just talking about what happened to Charlie, Well, I.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
Think something just a remarkable has come out of a
horrible situation, and that is that it really is a
woken people to say, wait a minute, we are not
going to live in fear. We're not going to allow
voice like Charlie's to you know, had this movement that
Charlie created just end, and in fact, I think the
(52:08):
movement is going to grow even stronger. You've seen Eric Erica,
his widow, just powerfully, powerfully talk about how she's going
to grow into something even bigger, and it's really happening.
I mean, you know, we've seen you know, fifty plus
thousand young people have said, I want to start a
turning Point chapter on my college campus or high school
campus where it doesn't yet exist. And we've seen a
(52:30):
lot of turning point chapters. You know, LSU, where I
went to school, We've got a turning point chapter. And
Charlie was going to be speaking in just a few
days to that campus chapter, and the event will now
go on. Our Governor Jeff Landry's going to be highlighting it,
and you know, it's saying the show must go on,
and I think you're going to see a lot more people,
(52:53):
including people maybe that never even knew what turning point
was about, who now have seen it. They've gone back
and looked at Charlie speak teaches, and he's inspired a
whole new generation of people. So this idea they were
going to silence it is truly backfired. I mean, I
think you've seen, you've seen the movement already grow stronger
and young people will not be silenced. Young people look,
(53:14):
they're sick and tired of these leftists telling him what
to do and how to think. And you've got to
hate institutions and religion. And it's also brought a new
awakening in religion, people going to church for the first
time and understanding and Charlie had such a deep faith
in God, as do I. People now I think are
maybe getting back in touch with God too, and that's
(53:35):
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
You mentioned the impact that Charlie's having. I interviewed Paul Feinbaum.
I know you're a college football fan, as was Charlie,
and Paul told me he's thinking about running for the
Senate in Alabama as partly a result of what he
saw happened to Charlie Kirk. He just left him shaken
and he wanted to think about what he could do
(53:59):
to be the most impactful in his life. I think
that you are hearing, as you mentioned, a lot of
people from all walks of life, regardless of what their
background is, sitting around and thinking, how can I embody
the courage that Charlie showed, that you showed after you
were shot to help take the country to a better place.
Speaker 7 (54:19):
Well, it's so true, and you know, I saw Paul's statements,
and I think you're going to see a lot more
things like that more people maybe we're on the sidelines,
or you know, maybe if you're in media, you know,
they might have been scared to speak out because you know,
the culture and media is so far Yeah, well, and
they're worried about cancel culture. I don't think people are
going to be worried about that cancel culture anymore. I
(54:40):
think it's reversing the other way, where it's you know
that the pendulums do swing in life and in politics,
and I think people are disgusted by this idea that
you know, radical leftists can just shut you up if
they don't agree with your point of view. They were
trying to do it in social media. Those days are over,
and I think the days of trying to shut people
up a presenting one point of view in mainstream media
(55:02):
over too. A few people are watching some of those
shows anyway that do that, but I think the rest
of the public wants free speech, embraces free speech, and
realizes how much it's threatened by the left. The left,
ironically are the ones who seem to want to shut
down free speech, and we're not going to let it happen.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
We're talking to see Steve Scali's congressman from Louisiana. What
should we know? Succinctly? We talked with Senator Mark Wayne
Mullen earlier this hour, But from your perspective, what should
our listeners know about the potential shutdown that would start tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (55:40):
Well, we passed a bill through the House two weeks
ago to keep government funding at funding the current levels,
and you're seeing Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the far left
fringes that one a government shut down, not for any
particular reason, but just they don't like the results of
the election last November, and the far left base, the
radical in the Democrat Party just want to fight with
(56:02):
Donald Trump, and a temper tantrum is not an excuse
to shut down the government and disrupt the lives of
millions of people. Think about it. Men and women in
uniform will not get paid. TSA agents won't get paid.
You know, federal parks are shut down. A lot of
bad things happen in people's lives that get disrupted just
because Chuck Schumer wants to have a some kind of
(56:25):
bar fight with Donald Trump because he doesn't like the
results of the election in November. Think about this. Democrats
and Republicans voted for these very same funding levels in March.
Nothing's changed since March except the far left elements that
are about to elect a Marxist in New York City
are also clamoring for a government shutdown. And ultimately it's
(56:47):
going to be up to Democrats in Congress. Are they
going to feed the craziest voices on the left? Are
they going to do the right thing? And the right
thing is keep the government funded. This isn't a permanent solution,
but at least for seven weeks short term, while we
negotiate our differences. Clearly we have differences, but you don't
have a tantrument and disrupt the lives of millions of
people during that difference to negotiation. Let's keep government funded
(57:12):
at its current levels, the bills in the Senate. So
it's all on Schumer right now. If there's a government shutdown,
it's only because Schumer decided to cave to the far
left elements of his radical base and disrupt the lives
of millions of people. I hope he doesn't do it,
and there's a chance that cooler heads will prevail, But
right now Schumer's looking for a shutdown and we'll see
(57:34):
where it goes come tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
All right, Right now, the biggest story in the state
of Louisiana is not government shutdowns. It is the Tiger offense.
So we got a lot of people listening all over
the country. But for people who don't know, LSU couldn't
stop anybody on defense last year. This year, the offense
has vanished. Our buddy Lane Kiffin, I think he's been
(57:58):
on the program up at Ole, miss celebrating a lot
of rebels, fans, big rivalry there. Really enjoyed the win. Congressman,
you got to solve everything in the world right now,
solve what's going on with your LSU Tigers. What do
they need? What's wrong?
Speaker 7 (58:15):
Yeah, well, you know, give me about another ten million
dollars in nil money. We can solve it. But now
I was in Oxford, Mississippi, and it was tough. It
was tough being I'm an LSU alum. You know, I
love my Tigers and we're going to bounce back. But
you know, we've been having some offensive problems the last
few weeks. And Garrett Nelsmyer is a great quarterback. You
could see his numbers from last year. He did have
(58:37):
an injury at the beginning of this year. Not sure
he's completely through that yet. Once you see him one
hundred percent, I think you'll see this team bounce back.
We got some tough teams ahead. We still go to Alabama,
we have A and M coming in. We go to Vanderbilt,
who's undefeated. You know, we've still got some tough games
to prove ourselves and I believe in coach Kelly. I
think they're going to bounce back. Our defense is much better,
(58:59):
you know, it's the SEC. I mean, we just lost
to the number four team in the nation. So let's
not pull the panic button, but let's get better. We
can and we have the capability with a great quarterback
to do it.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
The Grove is a spectacular place to go tailgate watch
a college football game. I'm fortunate to have been to
a bunch of games there. LSU on a Saturday night
is about as good as it gets. For people who
have never been and may never go to an LSU
Saturday night football game, what should they know about what
the experience is like.
Speaker 7 (59:33):
Well, first of all, don't deprive yourself of that treat
of being in Tiger Stadium at some point on a
Saturday night in your life. I mean, it's a box.
Everybody needs to check the tailgating alone. You got to
go up there early. I mean, just for the food experience.
You know, everybody knows what New Orleans food is like,
some of the best food in the world. You have
better Cajun chefs at some of the tailgates before the
(59:55):
game at an LSU game, then you'll get at some
of the finest restaurants in New Orleans, world class. They
take it seriously. And then the game itself, you know,
one hundred and three thousand incredibly screaming loud fans. You know,
you get Garth Brooks playing Colin Baton Rouge on the
on the speakers and man, the crowd goes nuts. It's
it's a scene like no other on a Saturday night
(01:00:17):
in Tiger Stadium. You got to come. I'll be there,
and I think we'll We'll have to get everybody to
check that box on their on their dance card to
come to do that one time in their life at least.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Now I've been. It's an amazing time. Congressman will appreciate
the time. Always happy to have you on. Good luck
with that turning point event and good luck with LSU
figuring out what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
Hey go Tigers and the gud bless Let's uh, let's
let's keep getting this country back on track.
Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Amen. That is Congressman Steve Scalise, as you heard, running
through all of the challenges right now on Capitol Hill
and also much less significantly the challenges for the LSU
Tiger offense. Speaking of sports, you guys know, I love
it and I love this company. I was in Athens, Georgia,
over the weekend and I was hanging out with the founder,
(01:01:08):
Adam built a great company. He's a University of Georgia
grad lived in Athens, grew up in the Atlanta area.
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prize picks. Right now, hey, major League Baseball playoffs underway.
Really looking forward to seeing how the Mets do. Sorry,
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You didn't even make the playoffs. But there are a
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