October 13, 2025 • 61 mins
They Are HOME
A monumental shift toward Middle East peace, highlighting President Donald Trump’s role in facilitating what is being hailed as a transformative geopolitical achievement. A celebration of the return of 20 living hostages from Gaza to Israel and the broader implications of the Trump-brokered peace agreement.
The hosts celebrate the end of a two-year war between Israel and Hamas, emphasizing the unprecedented nature of the ceasefire and the dismantling of Hamas leadership. They underscore the significance of Trump’s speech to the Israeli Knesset, where he was met with overwhelming support and gratitude. The episode positions Trump as the “Peacemaker-in-Chief,” drawing comparisons to historical figures like Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill and framing his second term as potentially the most transformative presidency of the 21st century.
Is Trump Still Hitler?
Clay and Buck explore the strategic shift in diplomacy under Trump, crediting his administration’s focus on deal-making and economic cooperation over religious divisions. They highlight the roles of Jared Kushner and other Trump allies in fostering relationships with Arab leaders, which helped lay the groundwork for a durable peace framework. The hosts argue that this approach has led to a rational, commerce-driven foundation for coexistence in the region.
The episode also critiques the political left, particularly progressive voices and media outlets, for their past opposition to Trump and their silence in the wake of this peace breakthrough. The hosts challenge the moral clarity of those who previously equated Trump with authoritarian figures, pointing out the cognitive dissonance now evident as even critics acknowledge his success. They cite praise from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and CNN’s Clarissa Ward, who noted Trump’s immense popularity in Israel.
What Comes Next?
Buck Sexton is joined by columnist and podcast host Karol Markowicz for a compelling conversation on the geopolitical, cultural, and moral dimensions of the peace deal and the return of hostages from Gaza. Reflections on Trump’s bold assertion that the peace agreement will endure, marking a pivotal moment for Israel and the broader region. Buck and Karol discuss the emotional impact of the return of 20 hostages, the horrors they endured, and the global silence surrounding their captivity. Karol highlights the failure of European nations to support the peace process and praises the Trump administration for its decisive leadership.
Karol emphasizes the need for a cultural shift in Gaza, advocating for a future built on peace, prosperity, and coexistence. She praises Trump’s deal-making approach and the economic incentives that could transform Gaza into a stable, thriving region. The episode includes a live segment from Trump’s speech in Egypt, where he declares that World War III will not begin in the Middle East and calls for a future free of ancient feuds and hatred.
As a Jewish American conservative, Karol shares her personal reflections on the past two years of rising antisemitism and hostility toward Israel. She expresses gratitude for the support from the political right and describes the emotional significance of Hostage Square being renamed Freed Square in Israel.
We Never Wavered
A central theme is the weakening of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran. The hosts explore internal power struggles within Gaza and the role of regional players like Egypt, Qatar, and Turkey in enforcing the peace. They credit Trump’s strategic pressure and military actions—particularly the 12-day war with Iran—for reshaping alliances and forcing Hamas to accept terms they initially rejected.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. And it's a big one. A
lot of celebration, a lot of news. Much to discuss
with all of you. All twenty remaining hostages, returns of
the hostages who could have been returned alive. They have
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been returned to Israel from Gaza. All twenty remitting hostages
alive in Gaza have been returned to Israel. Is the headline.
A lot of celebration on the streets, the end of
that war, the return of twenty hostages still alive. You've
also got the exchange of couple thousand Palestinian detainees as
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part of this process. Trump is in Egypt. He has
been pushing for not just discussions about this deal now,
but also a broader, permanent Mid East peace. He says,
Phase two of the peace deal has begun. We have
a tremendous amount to look at now, both in celebration
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and also in look ahead. Here is President Trump. This
is cut ten, addressing Israel's knesse It, their legislative body.
This has cut ten. Listen what the President had to say.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We gather in a day of profound joy, of soaring hope,
of renewed faith and bubble. A day to give our
deepest thanks to the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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After two harrowing years and darkness and captivity, twenty courageous
hostages are returning to the glorious embrace of their families.
And it is glorious. Twenty eight more precious loved ones
are coming home at last to rest in this sacred
soil for all of time, and after so many years
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of unceasing war and endless danger. Today the skies are calm,
the guns are silent, the sirens are still, and the
sun rises on a holy land that is finally at peace,
a land and a region that will live God willing
in peace for all eternity.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Clay, it is just a momentous, a momentous occasion, a
huge day, massive wind for the Trump administration or humanity. Well,
the first time in my lifetime people are talking about
peace in the Middle East as truly achievable after this
massive agreement has gone into play.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I think it is one of the greatest days of
many great days in the Trump administrations over the past decade.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I had so many thoughts.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
As i watched the hostages come back, and I know
many of you did as well. I think you can
start with the American side, which is they told us
for a decade that Trump was Hitler, and now Trump
is the most popular politician in the history of America
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in Israel. Probably a pretty significant sign that that is
a major, major lie that all of us knew was
being told. But I think even for the people who've
been lying about that for a decade, it's going to
become very difficult to do it going forward. The response
that President Trump got in the Knesset was actually better
(04:00):
than the response that he got in the State of
the Union in the House of Representatives Chamber.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I think that's significant.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And for a big picture take when we went to
Israel in December, producer Ali Andrew on our team and me.
We got off the planes buck we were some of
the only foreigners in Israel, and you saw these hostage
placards everywhere in Tel Aviv airport. For the first time
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in two years, they've been taken down. The hostages have
come home. We went to Tel Aviv Hostage Square they
called it, where they had nightly protests to bring back
the hostages. I saw videos of pandemonium breaking out as
all of the hostages, the twenty remaining hostages that are alive,
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came back to Israel and met their families. And for
all of you out there that are fortunate enough to
be parents or grandparents, can you imagine the hell of
living with your loved ones, your kids, your grandkids, being
held hostage by Hamas for two straight years and then
suddenly you get to see them in the flesh back Now.
Unfortunately many of those hostages were killed by Jimas, but
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for the ones who are still alive, it is a
fitting cornerstone to what we hope is a foundation of
peace that's being built there. And Buck, on top of
everything else, I just look at this and it really
does feel like Trump two point zero is going to
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be the most transformative presidency of the twenty first century
by far, and maybe the most transformative presidency since Ronald Reagan.
For those of us out there who have been alive
for the past several generations, Trump is now competing not
to me Buck in the annals of the American presidency
and where he ranks, but in the annals of global politics,
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whether it's Churchill, whether it's Reagan, people who were seismic
historical forces for freedom and good and for those of
us out there who have been Trump supporters, this is
a day of validation that our judgment was sound and
we picked the right guy to be leading America out
of a place of darkness into a place of light.
(06:19):
That's kind of my big thoughts as I watched all
of this take place this morning.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Buck, if you were to lay out in advance of
an administration, what are the great things that could be
achieved that have so far been unachievable for previous administrations,
Middy's piece, almost as a cliche, would be at the
top of the list. You know, oh, Middy's piece. So yes,
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everyone tries, everyone fails. I actually knew someone who had
worked in the State Department for decades and he said,
the one thing you always have to remember at Middle
East piece is everyone tries, meaning every administration tries and
everyone fails. And that was the cynicism that forty plus
years of trying some kind of a deal. Yes, I
(07:06):
mean stretching back to the Reagan era and the US
intervention in Lebanon and before that. I mean, I don't
even know where you want to start this basically the
World War two era they've been trying to get piece
of the re least has been unachievable. Trump is closer
to that goal now than any administration before him. Clay,
you mentioned you went and visited Israel. You went to
Hostage Square. You know, people are rightly in exaltation. They
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are jubilant over the return of twenty of these hostages.
This has been something that the entirety of the Israeli people,
the Jewish people, Americans, allies of Israel, have been waiting for.
But I have to say, the sense of accomplishment here
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for anyone who has been focused on this region for
a long time, the sense of accomplishment almost feels surreal
that this is the time that Hamas has accepted truly
a battlefield defeat with conditions that are supposed to get
rid of Hamas period. This honestly evil entity that has
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be deviled the region for as long as you and
I have been alive. They are now going to be
under agreement, push out of leadership. This is an end
of an era of terrorism that I think is possible
to achieve now in a way it hadn't been before.
But Minie's piece was where I started in college looking
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into the Middle East issue as a realm of study. Clay,
this has been the thing. This has been the durable,
unfortunately challenge for diplomacy and for policy in the region.
And there has never been a day of greater hope
and promise than this one. And there has never been
a president who has achieved more so far than this one.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And how did he do it?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I think there are going to be a lot of
books written about for generations to come if hopefully we
can have a lasting piece that continues to flourish in
the Middle East. I think it's by focusing on fillmaking
over religion. And some people out there are going to say, Okay,
what do you mean by that, Clay. I think Trump's
unique genius here was he has a great relationship with
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a lot of the Arab leaders, which is based on
the foundation of we want to build new things business,
we want to create new opportunities through capitalism, and Trump
has those relationships. I think Jared Kushner or Steve Wikoff,
all of those guys are deal makers. They're primarily real
estate guys that have put together big deals elsewhere, and
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they basically looked at Midea's peace, not through the prism
of always religion, not through the prism of what I
would say, all of the sort of Swarthmore Faculty lounge
a list on the Democrat party side would have attempted,
but through Okay, let's find a commonality.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
We like to make money, we like to build things.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's an agreement, that's a relationship that's very positive. And
upon that foundation of capitalism and on building new things,
let's create a durable, hopefully and lasting peace on that.
And so I think they started with that commonality and
then work towards the ultimate conclusion here, which is Hamas
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has to be eradicated.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Buck I saw somebody share a tweet.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I thought it was great, And there may be multiple
people who've made this argument, but essentially, the only hostages
Hamas has left now are the people of Gaza, and
they have to be allowed to have freedom inside of Gaza.
And this is where now the management of this is
going to be so important, because you have other Arab
leaders who are saying enough already, we don't want to
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fight forever with Israel. Let's just build a foundation of
peace and prosperity that all can benefit from. There is
a form of rationality and realism that I think has
taken root, partly based on the relationships of Trump, Jared Kushner,
Steve Wikoff and everybody out there who said, this is
not an intractable problem that can never be solved. Let's
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start with the foundation of mutual benefit through commerce. And
I think that's the way Trump has approached this and
had a great deal of success. And they tell me
cut thirteen goes with this if we want to play
cut thirteen.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
From October seventh until this week, Israel has been a
nation at war, enduring burdens that only a proud and
faithful people could withstand.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It was a very tough period of time for.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So many families across this land. It has been years
since you've known a single day of true peace. But now,
at lasts, not only for Israelis, but also for Palestinians
and for many others, the long and painful nightmare is
finally over. And as the dust settles, the smoke phades,
(12:08):
the debris is removed, and the ashes cleaned from the air.
The day that breaks on a region transformed, and a
beautiful and much brighter future appear suddenly within your reach. Clay.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I've had so many people come up to me recently, yes,
but also stretching back over many months, particularly this year
in twenty twenty five, to say thank you to you,
to me for this show, for standing with Israel and
maintaining a moral clarity on what had happened here starting
(12:47):
on October seventh, all the way through two years of war,
when some people, even on the right, some people that
I personally like and have respected their work in the past,
I think, began to see this through the wrong lens,
perhaps began to lose faith in what is a very
(13:08):
clear issue of right and wrong. What is really a
moral war, a just war that has been fought here.
And I've had many people, and even in recent days
that's why I'm thinking about it, come up and say
thank you for what you have been willing to do
and say on the show, because it has been a
tremendously emotionally taxing two years for a lot of American Jews,
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for a lot of Americans period who have been observing
this and have been hoping that this conflict would come
to an end, but also maintaining that there has never
been a moral equivalency between the Israeli people between the
IDF and Hamas. And there were a lot of efforts,
a lot of efforts in the media by Democrats and
(13:55):
by leftists in this country to conflate those two, to
confuse the America in public. And now here we are
Donald Trump was never confused. And we see that his
administration saw this with the clarity necessary to bring it
to a just conclusion or the best conclusion we could
hope for under the circumstances.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, and I'll echo that and just leave you all
with a question as we finish the opening segment.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Here, where are all the ceasefire now?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
People celebrating now that they have a ceasefire in the
Middle East?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
For years, college campuses all over American streets, all over
global streets, people marched in the streets chanting ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Now, wouldn't you expect, Buck, if those people.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Were honest about their motivations, that they would all be
out in the streets celebrating. Instead, they're not, because for them,
this is not about peace. It's about hating Israel and
hating Jews, the elon Omhers of the world. They certainly
aren't saying very much about Trump bringing peace to the
Middle East because they don't want peace, they want Israel
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eradicated from the Middle East. We'll talk about this some more,
but I want to tell you all eyes on Israel
and the Middle East today the return of twenty hostages
who've been kept in captivity for more than seven hundred
and thirty five days. I hope you watch some of
those reunions with the family. So many moving stories. Israel's
been under near constant assault for the past two years,
(15:24):
since the terror attack of October seventh, twenty twenty three,
and today is one of the proudest days that the
country of Israel has ever had. And I'm not sure
that the relationship between Israel and the United States has
ever been stronger. If you watched Trump's speech today, if
you saw the extreme popularity for President Trump throughout Israel.
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Speaker 1 (16:41):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. It is Columbus Day, everybody.
It's a huge day of celebration for Midi's peace. We're
gonna get back into that in a second, but I
don't want to forget because Columbus is a hero in
this house. Play Columbus, as Tony Sopredo explained to us
so eloquently many years ago, he's a hero in his house,
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and he is for what he accomplished in discovering the
new world and overcoming the opposition of really a very
a stone age people was what he came upon. And
things got a little rough, as they tend to in conquests.
I'm not saying it didn't, but here we are now
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in a better place, as a civilization. So that's good
news for everybody and the world in communication with each
other as a result of Columbus. All right, So I'm
just saying, Columbus pretty amazing stuff. And maybe we could
have some conversation here later on the show about what
the world was like earlier on. But let's get back
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into Trump and the massive Mid East piece deal. Let's
get into where things stand right now with all of this.
Trump is speaking, by the way, we'll bring you some
of that audio moment Terror. But here I thought this
was really interesting, CNN's Clarissa Ward saying Trump is possibly
even more popular in Israel than he is in America.
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Right now, play cut four.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
They have been cheering like crazy from the moment that
Air Force one was first spotted making its descent over
Tel Aviv landing at benger And Airport, to the moment
where the door of Air Force one opened and President
Trump then began to make his way down the steps
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of the aircraft. You heard the whole crowd here started
to erupt into chairs of thank you Trump, thank you Trump.
And I have to say, everywhere you go here there
are posters of Trump. We have seen people who have
made artifacts dedicated to Trump. Fair to say that President
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Trump is possibly even more popular here that he is
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Clay could join to just give you some of the
some of the highlights here from some of these folks,
because well, as you've been saying all along, I know
you want to jump in on this point because it's
an important one. It's bizarre for the state of Israel,
home to the Jewish people, or you know, the homeland
of the Jewish people. Bizarre that he is so that
(19:27):
Donald Trump is so beloved, and yet there are people
here who say that he is Hilarian. That's quite strange.
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, And when I was over there in December, I
remember having conversation with people and they said, look, if
Israel was an American state, Israel would vote for President
Trump more than Wyoming did, more than Mississippi did, more
than West Virginia did, Tennessee Alabama, wherever Trump is his
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most popular in the United States, if Israel were our
fifty first state, they would vote for Trump more. And
so I wonder as I watched that Clarissa a Ward report,
which I actually think underplays it because she says he's
probably more popular in Israel. He's definitely more popular in
Israel than he is in the United States. What do
all those CNN viewers who have been told that he
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is Hitler, what do they think when they hear Clarissa
Ward saying the guy is more popular among Jews than
any American has ever been. Like, it's just the cognitive
dissonance has to be off the charts.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
The advantage of being delusional is you never have to
be accountable, something I discussed in my upcoming book, Miss
a Good Praise in January, Thank you, thank you, But
you never have to go back and actually look at
what you were saying, what you were thinking, what reality is.
Now they'll tell themselves, well, even Hitler can get lucky,
you know themselves, whatever crazy thing they have to to
(20:58):
explain why they have said that Donald Trump is Hitler,
which is it's insane on its own, an insane statement.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And actually, as we have been saying for a decade,
but this is their talking point, and I do think
it is hard for a talking point to be more
publicly refuted.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I think we have met Benjamin at Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Let's just go ahead and put this out there, saying
Israel's never loved an American politician more here is net
Yahoo in the Knessea just a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Thank you for withdrawing from the disastrous Iron Mucler deal.
Thank you for supporting Operation Rising Line, and for your
bold decision to launch Operation Midnight hammer.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Boy, is that you got to hear this? This is
the most.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Fitting name ever named for a military operation, because a
little after midnight you'll really hammered them.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
My friends, this is only a partial list, but it's
enough to affirm what I've said time and again. Donald
Trump is the greatest friend that the State of Visul
has ever had in the White House.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I mean, that speaks pretty full force on what the
reality is here of Donald Trump as a president and
also as an ally of a state of viral and
Jewish people. And that's something else that I want to
address here, Clay, because and I understand this and all
the GAT veterans listening veterans of a rock Afghanistan and
the other counter terrorism counter ge hottest military operations of
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the last twenty four years or so and beyond, but
particularly the post nine to eleven era. A Middle East
like what we are seeing right now with the worst
players in the worst position they have been in in
living memory. Is the best possible future for the US
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because it means that there's not even going to be
or there won't even be a need for Hey, we're
not fighting that war. Hey we're not putting troops on
the ground in that place. It is America first to
have a peaceful Middle East that we don't even have
to think about or worry about. That we can just
get oil and other things from in trade, and we
can visit countries that we want to visit safely as
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American citizens, and that it doesn't have to be this
royling healthscape constantly. That's a good thing for this country.
It's a good thing for America, even if you are
a staunch non interventionist. Isn't it great to never even
have to think about that possibility going forward? Now? That
is contingent on Hamas being removed from leadership. It's contingent
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on none of these terrorist groups resurging. I know you
have a former al Qaeda guy running Syria. There are
still problems and risks, but there's a better realistic possibility
clay for a durable framework of peaceful coexistence in the
Middle East now than at any time in my lifetime,
and I've been following this. I mean I've been studying
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this since I was a teenager in high school, so
we're going back thirty years.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And for the America First people out there, it's really
hard for America to be first without affordable oil and gas.
And the relationship between Trump and the Saudis has ensured
that oil is free flowing and that we're able to
effectively run commerce here in the United States. We can't
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be held hostage by petro dictators. This makes that much
less likely, which makes America stronger, which Trump understands. I
also think there's another little angle here worth pointing out.
You and I were right about the necessity of striking
Iran that was considered to be controversial five six months ago.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Whenever it happened.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I don't think Hamas would have agreed to this deal
if Trump hadn't shown them the hard fist of American power.
Lot of you out there who are on to understand
people on the left, they want to claim that peace
needs to happen. Can't have peace without strength. You can't
have peace without somebody knowing that you could beat their
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ass if you needed to. And Israel basically wiping out
Iran in twelve days with the assistance of the United States.
I think it was very eye opening for people in
the Middle East, because Iran's entire leadership has based its
existence on We're going to wipe Israel off the earth.
We are going to go to war with America, and
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we're going to win. That's what their leadership has been
telling the people of Iran all throughout the Persian Empire.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And what happened in twelve days.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
They were begging for mercy, and if the United States
had so desired, the Ayah Tolah would have been overthrown.
We chose not to do that, but everybody in the
Middle East saw that power, saw that strength, and I
think the reverberations of that power and strength is what
helped to lead Hamas to the willingness to finally give
the hostages back and effectively seed control of Gaza to
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a larger Arab peace communities. Now there's lots of details
to be worked out. Unfortunately, there's always going to be
terrorists who want to attack Israel in the Holy Land.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
That's not going to go away.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
But I think if you look at Hesball in the North,
I think if you look at what's happened to Iran,
I think if you look at what's happened to all
of the proxies funded by Iran in the wake of
October seventh, they have been largely neutered and wiped out.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And speaking of neuter some of Trump's biggest critics having
to come forward, and how can you talk about this
in a negative way? You would sound even crazier than usual.
On MSNBC, as I said, Clay Middy's piece has been
the thing that people have been striving for an administrations
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for our entire lives, quite honestly and unsuccessfully correct. And
I understand that there's still a lot of clock, so
to speak, left here. We're talking about an indeterminate future
and things can change, but this is the first time
that it has been, like I said, a realistic framework
of peaceful coexistence for Israelis neighbors, and also with Iran
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now defanged, the broader Middle East is looking better than
it has. The willingness of the Saudis and the Gulf
States to be constructive with international relations in the Middle East.
Here it is massive the implications of all of this. Meanwhile,
over at MSNBC, their favorite historian John Meacham, who has
(27:34):
said that Trump is a threat to democracy. This is
an existential threat. I mean, he's, along with the others,
said some of the craziest things you'll hear anyone say
on MSNBC about Trump. Even he's even he has had
to be like, you know what, it's a pretty good
day for Trump. Play seven.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
It's a terrific day for the hostage families. It's a
terrific day for President Trump for our national interests. You're right,
we don't know how the story ends, but stories are
made up of chapters.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But we should make no mistake about this.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
This is a victory for President Trump and for those
who wish that we can govern ourselves at home and
around the world, not simply by brute force, but by
ideas and civilized norms.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
This is a I give credit to Meet Chim.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I want to see who's been Biden's best buddy, who
tried to tell Biden, hey, you're transformative president, you can
be FDR. A lot of these guys who are historians,
I believe, are start are going to start to recognize
that they've been on the wrong side of history and
that historians are good at analyzing history fifty or one
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hundred years after it happens in retrospect. Not always great
at analyzing history in real time.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Remember that.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
More on, Michael Beschlos said that if Trump on, people
would be lined up with firing squads, and you know,
there wouldn't be history in the future. I wonder when
he's waking up now. Again, if you're a rational person,
at some point in time, you have to acknowledge all
of the evidence. And I understand there's thirty five percent
of America that's so brain dead that they wouldn't you know,
(29:19):
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So there's about thirty five percent of the population that
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percent of people out there that are still sitting around
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told for the past decade by the legacy media and
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Second hour of Clay and Buck get's going right now,
and our friend Carol Markowitz is in the mix. Oh,
Clay had to step away, so it's just gonna be
me guys on the host side for the rest of
the show. Clay is in Mississippi and he is doing
an interview of a sports legend. I had not heard
of the fellow before, but apparently very important in the
(31:24):
SEC sports world. So that's going on, and I am
here with Carol Markowitz in the meantime, and Carol, you
know what, First of all, congrats two years this week
of the Carol Markwitz program on the Clay and Buck
podcast network. So there's a lot of celebration going on
all over the place today, a lot of celebration. Some
(31:44):
people are saying a day of celebration. You know, we're
gonna look into it. Day of celebration everywhere. But let's
actually speaking of Trump kind of. Let's just a few
moments ago he said this, This has cut thirty guys
on his gazap piece plan the signing of it. Play
this one.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's to three thousand years to get to this point,
can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And it's going to hold up too.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's going to hold up.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Clay. I mean, Carol, Sorry, please God, Carol. Bold talk
from mister Trump. But I think a lot of people
are saying he's got the hot hand. Don't doubt him.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I agree if anybody who's doubting him right now is
making a big mistake. I think that he is in
a really good position to enforce this piece. I of
course worry about what's going to happen in three years
when he is out of office. You know, I've been
making the Trump twenty twenty eight joke because of this,
But it's going to be really tough for anybody to
follow in his footsteps and to enforce the piece that
(32:46):
he's established. In the Middle East. I think that it
is a very hopeful moment. It's a hopeful moment for
that whole region. They should take this opportunity that Trump
has given them and live peaceful lives.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's a huge moment for the Israeli people today with
the return of those twenty hostages who were still held
alive in captivity in Gaza. Carol, I do think, though,
it should be noted just how vile it is that
there were hostages taken in the first place, that so
(33:18):
many of the hostages died in captivity. And also, while
I know it's joyous for the families to have their
loved ones back, the treatment of the hostages was horrific.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Yeah, it was appalling, and the world was largely silent
about it. America was really the bright spot in this
and they really it showed. It showed because when Britain
or in France are now trying to take credits for
this piece deal, when they really stood in the way
of it at every opportunity, really appalling. But yeah, you're
absolutely right. You know, my nine year old at one
(33:53):
point during the last two years said to me, why
doesn't Israel just take their people and hold them hostage
and then they guild, you know that then they'll understand.
And it's so hard to convey to him that civilized
countries don't do this, that this is not the work
of civilized people. They don't steal babies and their mother
isn't kill them in captivity. That is just just it's
horrendous to even think about. And the fact that Israel
(34:16):
is coming out of this strong and united is a
real bright point for me.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yes, it seems the Israeli people recognize the well the
incredibly momentous nature of what is going on here. And
let's talk about that a bit, because when you and
I haven't gotten into some of the details that have
come out about the negotiations and specifically Trump's role in it.
(34:42):
But yes, it was only possible, and even his biggest attractors,
some of his biggest attractors, are admitting that without Trump,
this deal doesn't happen the way that it did. But
some of the regional players, you know, some of the
regional countries put real pressure on Hamas here too, which
is an indie cater, right it.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Is, And hopefully that holds up as well. I hope
that these countries don't backtrack on that. I hope they
see Hamas as the losers that they are. And the
fact that the last two years didn't have to happen.
October seventh didn't have to happen, and all the days
since then didn't have to happen. So all the people
who pretended that they wanted peace for the last two years,
now that peace is here, I'd love to hear them celebrating.
(35:23):
But you're right, the countries in the Middle East need
to enforce this as much as anybody else does they
need to say to Hamas that the days of killing
innocent people and doing things like this is over. More
than anything else, they all need to accept that Israel
isn't going anywhere. And I hope that they can do that.
I know that that is a stretch for a lot
of the countries. You know, it's a stretch for a
lot of the people who have been radicalized. But that's
(35:45):
the main goal here, is to say Israel's not going anywhere.
How do we live in peace side by side?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
How do you feel about the prospects for Hamas being
truly pushed aside in all this? One of our callers
in the last hour brought up that there's been some
factional fighting inside of Gaza already between the mas terrorists
and this this this sort of entity, this group, I believe,
(36:11):
a family that has considerable sway inside of Hamasastan if
you will, And there's clearly a score settling and a
jockeying for power that's going on there. But is it
just going to be on Israel's shoulders? Once again, that
if Jimas starts starts breaking the deal, that Yahoo and
(36:31):
the IDF are going to have to go in there
and finish the right.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Well, absolutely, if Hamas starts breaking the deal, there's no
question that they're going to have to go back in.
But the real question is what if that area breaks
out into a civil war? What if they are fighting
each other? What is Qatar? What is Egypt?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
What do they do?
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Then?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
What do all the countries that are involved in this
peace process do at that point? And it's hard to
say because who are the good guys in that situation?
Nobody really knows, And I you know, again, I'm hopeful
about that about this moment, but there's so many you know,
details here that are really large questions hanging over the
whole thing. Again, I hope these countries all step up
(37:11):
and do the right thing and enforce peace overall, but
you know, it gets really murky over there.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah. Well, of course we speaking of Carol Markowitz, hosts
of The Carol Markowitz Show and which is two yr
University normally also with Mary Katherine ham on the Claim
Buck podcast network. So walk me through some of the
what do you see as critical for what comes next
here because we haven't the first hour. Just you know,
Carol was this is amazing, so happy for the families,
(37:38):
you might have heard some of it. You know, Trump
giant win for him. You know, forget about Mount Rushmore,
it should be Mount trump Moore at this point, right.
I mean, people are all very excited about this, but
what comes next It's.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
So hard to say. Because of that internal struggle and
because they've been for so long radicalized to believe that
they could end Israel at some point. The last two
years have shown that region anything, it's that Israel isn't
going anywhere. I think that iran Twelve Day War was
very instrumental in that. I think guitar is thinking twice
about their alliance with Iran at that point, because Iran
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was supposed to be the lion that they were supposed
to be the ones who would should they get involved
in a war in the Middle East, that war would
end very quickly and Iran would be the victor. Turns
out that's not the case. So these countries needed this
reality check. It's unfortunate that it came in such a way,
with so many people dead, but this is the truth
there is that they need to accept Israel and they
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need to understand that all of the previous things that
they've done to harm the relationship of Israel with other countries.
It needs to come to an end. They could have peace,
That's what Trump is saying to them. You could live peacefully.
You can have Gaza be a beach resort, you can
be different, you can raise your children differently. That's really
what I hope happens here.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, that's the huge mindset shift that were all hoping
occurs here for these Middle Eastern people's Middle Eastern countries.
So that aspect of it, I think is very much
to be decided. But there's reason to believe. There's reason
for optimism. I would say, in a region where optimism
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has been in deeply short supply for a long time.
And on the optimistic side of things, I mean, Carol,
just looking at this from a you know, former CIA
targeting and that perspective, hes belah weakest that has been
in certainly recent memory, hamas weakest it has been, or
(39:38):
on weakest that has been. I mean you start to
look at the regional evildoers, I mean, the malefactors, the
bad players in all of this, and they have been
substantially brought to heal they have.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, and again this couldn't have happened a lot of
the things that you mentioned could not have happened without
alliance between the United States and Israel. What always happens
when Israel gets attacked, and this is true even when
those Republican presidents, they are stopped from finishing any of
the jobs that they need to finish. In this case,
Donald Trump gave Israel so much space to do what
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they needed to do and to not prematurely end the conflict,
which is generally what happens. When I was in Israel
last year or two years ago, many people said to me,
you know what always ends up happening at the end
of these wars is our greatest ally says that's enough.
That's how that's how the war ends. It doesn't end
because we finished the job. It's because America says no more.
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This time, Donald Trump said no, They're going to get
to do what they need to do to end this.
And that's the only way piece is really possible here.
Donald Trump has been a miracle for that region. And
you hear israeli is today, you know, posting their their
thoughts online and they're all so grateful and they understand
that it is Donald Trump. It was President Trump who
(40:57):
led the way on this and they really really get
that it's America's role that has led them to peace.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
If you could speak also, Carol, to the perspective of
a proud American Jew as you are, and what it
has been like for the last two years to see
some of the yes. Debate and discussion is always fine,
and these are rady issues of foreign policy and war
and peace. But there was something else that gained a
(41:25):
lot of steam over the last two years here at home,
never mind the Middle East. And I know it was
it was troubling to see it was, but I.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Still think it was largely on the left. I know
that the right is going through its own insane moment
right now, but I still think it's so limited. Every
poll shows that the right continues to be in the
right place in terms of Israel, in terms of Jews
in America. So I've been grateful to be a conservative
these last two years because my non Jewish friends, my Clays,
and my bucks have been so behind us and so
(41:56):
amazing that it's been heartwarming and comforting and secure. Really,
I felt so secure in my conservative beliefs because my
side was on the right side. And there's a lot
to that. A lot of my liberal Jewish friends have
been scrambling the last two years and openly said that
none of their friends say a word about any of this,
and don't talk about the fact that Jewish kids on
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college campuses can't go to classes and they're being harassed
and sometimes hurt, and their friends don't say a word.
And I'm like, well, my friends said many words. And
I feel so grateful for you, so grateful for Clay,
so grateful for many others on the conservative right. I
think that we're in a strong place where we have
a hopeful future, and I you know, it feels good
(42:39):
right now to be a Jewish conservative.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Absolutely. Well, I still sit here and you and I
have had this conversation before wing left wing Jews are
It's a little bit like left wing Catholics to me.
But that's a whole other conversation. I'm just like, what
are you doing, Like, explain to me how this is
a thing that you are going to hold up politically speaking.
But anyway, I also, I know you have friends and
(43:03):
even some extended family in Israel on your on your
husband's side, on Shay's side. What's the feeling like over there?
I mean, just described to me because I know you're
in contact with them. How are they doing today?
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Just such joy and gratefulness. His sister, a sister is
there and she's sending pictures from the Hostage Square has
now been renamed Freed Square, and it's just it's an
amazing moment. I have to say that I think a
lot of Israelis believed this moment as possible. I'm a
very optimistic person, but I did not think this is
(43:35):
going to happen. I really didn't. I thought I thought
those hostages would meet a terrible end in captivity. I
have to admit that I didn't believe. And I thought
those yellow ribbons that people wore, I thought they'd wear
them forever. So they had hope that I simply didn't have.
I guess they had to have that hope, that hope
being realized today. It just smiling faces, National holiday, biggest
(43:57):
deal ever over there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Jack got the Carol Marker with show Everybody on the
clan Buck podcast network. Also look for her columns in
The New York Post. Carol, hugs to you, Shy and
the whole family, and a great day, and thank you
so much for joining to share your thoughts on it
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Columbus Day, Mid East Peace Day, Trump on the World
stage day, a lot of stuff happening, and mostly very good,
very encouraging, very.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Promising, happy to see it. And that is this weemer
We take stock of our wins here on this show
as well. We don't just do the catas everything everything
is terrible, nothing matters, you know. That's it's such a
boring and cheap way to get attention for content, whether
it's written or spoken or TV. We don't do that.
(46:51):
When there's problems, we say there are problems, and we
talk about how to fix them. When there are wins,
we take a moment to describe and enjoy together those wins.
And today is certainly a big win for the Trump administration,
for Israel and for the broader Middle East. And if
you hear any growling in the background, it is because
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Ginger realizes that my lunch has made its way into
the studio and now all of a sudden, she loves
me more than ever. Look at that, my little Australian
labradoodle has decided that, you know, Trump is pretty great.
But Papa Buck has some fresh cooked chicken nearby, so
I got to make sure that she's not growling into
the microphone here. All right, let's get let's dive into this.
(47:37):
I think this is really interesting, the details of how
Trump got this deal to go through. Wall Street Journal
had a really excellent write up on this in the
last twenty four hours, and let me share some of
this with you. When Hamas leader Khalil al Haya first
(47:58):
saw President Trump's planned for peace in Gaza, which demanded
that his group disarm with few concrete steps to ensure
Israel would end the war, his immediate reaction was no.
The plan, heavily amended by Israel and presented to Hamas
by the Katari Prime Minister and Egypt's spy chief, looked
(48:19):
nothing like what Haya had been led to expect. Hyah,
who less than a month earlier had been a target
of Israel's audacious attack on Hamas in Kutter, told his
visitors the group would keep its Israeli hostages until it
had enforceable guarantees the war would end. But two days
later Hamas came back to Arab mediators with a yes.
(48:43):
The deal hadn't changed the picture on Hamas had. Egypt
and Cutter told Haya the deal was his last chance
to end the war. According to the officials, they pressed
Hamas to understand that holding the hostages was becoming a
strategic liability, giving Israel a source of legitimacy to keep fighting.
(49:03):
End quote. Okay, this is really important because we often
think of this as a US Israel idf action. Right,
It's like we're negotiating. Trump is negotiating, Israel's doing the fighting,
and we have intermediaries over there. But clearly the diplomacy
that the Trump administration was engaged in and really negotiations
(49:30):
more like a business deal than what I think your
general diplomat would be engaged in. Right, Trump has a
different approach to this stuff. I mean diplomats. I've known
State Department diplomats. I've been around State Department diplomats in
an earlier life when I was a government guy myself.
They don't get stuff done. It's just not a culture
(49:50):
of getting things done. It's a culture of process. The
State Department is, by its very nature a lethargic bureaucracy
that mostly exists to exist because we got to have
diplomats somewhere, we got to have open lines of communication
with these different countries, et cetera. But generally, the results, overwhelmingly,
(50:14):
the results are really unimpressive. Trump comes in there, and
he's got sleeves rolled up. He's got his team led
by Marco Rubio, whom I might point out, Trump is
saying he's gonna go down in history as the greatest
secretary of state in our history. Now, I'm gonna say
I think Rubio. Full credit to Rubio for doing a
(50:35):
phenomenal job so far. But if you're talking secretaries of
state in all history, there have been some pretty big moves,
you know, right, didn't one of them buy Alaska? I mean,
there's been some pretty big stuff, So I don't. Yeah,
I'm not saying Marco is not gonna get there, but
number one for Marco all time, number one, maybe our lifetime, sure,
number one all time. We still got a little work
(50:56):
to do, you know, there's there's still some things that
have to be looked at here. But certainly it has
been the administration's team that got us to this point,
which is an incredible success. And the fact that you
have these other Mideast countries that were willing to tell
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Hamas you got to knock this crap off an end
this war like enough is enough, is really indicative. I
think of how much the pressure that Trump's team was
bringing to bear had borne fruit how much this was
really moving the ball downfield because Cutter as you know,
(51:41):
these really's launched a strike and Cutter then Trump had
the whole come on, you got to apologize. I mean,
Trump has been the guy in the bar here who
is holding back two guys who have really bloodied each
other up. And one of them started it and some
us one of them is responsible for the fight. But
he was able to stand in between these combatants and say,
(52:04):
all right, you're gonna knock this off. And hey, you
if they knock it off, you're willing to uh, you're
willing to let it go right. You know, we're gonna
stop this thing. And you needed that, you needed that
to get us to this point. But that Turkey would
for example, Turkey is way too favorable toward Hamas for
(52:25):
a whole bunch of reasons. But that Turkey is gonna say,
if you don't agree to this deal, we're you're on
your own. Basically, Turkey was telling Hamas, we're cutting you loose.
That's a big for people who have been following the
region another that's big stuff.
Speaker 9 (52:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
You know Hamas has been far too willing uh or Rather,
Turkey has been far too willing to be there in
support of Hamas through through thick and thin. Finally it
got to be too thin, finally got to be too much.
So this campaign that got the final the final really surrender.
(53:05):
It's Hamas is surrendered. It's a surrender with guarantees, but
surrender is what this is, and that's what it should be.
The members of Hamas who are still alive should consider
themselves lucky. I know Hamas is a death cult and
they love sending other people to die and to kill
as many innocent Israelis and Jews as possible. I know
that's what Hamas really is at its core, but it's
(53:29):
still for the leadership that somehow doesn't like to die.
The Hamas leadership, they don't like to be suicide bombers.
They would have sent other people to be suicide bombers.
But for Hamas leadership, they should count themselves very lucky,
very fortunate that they still have their lives at the
end of this, because Israel would have been well within
its rights. And really, I have argued from the beginning,
(53:51):
Israel had an obligation to wipe Hamas out after what
they did on October seventh, and a moral obligation to
the Israeli and to the world. To the degree there
isn't international community, just humanity, Israel had an obligation, a
moral and ethical one as well as just a national
security imperative to hunt Hamas down, and they have done so,
(54:18):
and they have been incredibly effective as well as ethical
in that process. That does not mean perfect. War is
never perfect. There will always be civilian casualties. There's always
going to be collateral damage to a city. But now
even it will become more clear than ever. The people
who were telling you that there was mass starvation in
(54:39):
Gaza as a result of Israeli policy were lying. The
people who are saying that Israel was engaged in a genocide,
we're lying. This is going to become even more clear
in the days ahead. Those voices are just going to
try to fade, I might add, they're going to fade,
and you're going to hear a lot less of them.
(55:02):
But what they were saying was a slander, and it
was morally obtuse, it was decrepit, it was disgraceful, and
that is what they were doing intentionally during a time
of war, to confuse as much as they could America
as an ally of Israel in this process. This was
(55:23):
always very clear to me and to Clay, and to
Clay's immense credit, I know he's away for the rest
of the show today. We never coordinated response. We never
had to say, well, you know, we're going to be
disagreeing or agreeing on this or anything like that. From
the moment October seventh happened forward, we saw this through
(55:46):
the same moral lens, and I think that's I have
obviously an international relations national security background, but Clay's just
a very high IQ, high wattage guy, and also with
a very clear sense of right and wrong, and so
we never had static on this show. We never had
(56:08):
a sense of, oh, but maybe Israel has gone too far,
or maybe Israel is engaged in a genocide. That never
and you know this, you who have been listening for
these two years, that never entered into our consciousness on
the show for one second. And we followed this as
closely as we could from Afar and Clay went to
get ground truth in Israel, as you know, last December.
(56:31):
But I'm very proud of that, and as I've been saying,
I've had a lot of people come up who are
listeners to the show. And I have a tremendous number
of conservative Miami Beach American Jews who listened to this show.
I know because when I'm walking the streets, they come
up to me and the first thing they say is
great show. The second thing they say is thank you
for standing with Israel and not not. You know, abandoning
(56:52):
would be extreme, but even being a bit wishy washy
on it, you know, even getting to a place where
you started, Oh, I'm just asking questions. You know, is
really the good guy here? Or is the idea of
really justified? Is no none of that nonsense here for
one second. And now that this conflict is over, I
think people will be able to look back on it
(57:14):
with even more factual clarity about who was accurate and
who was playing propaganda with this stuff. So these are
all important considerations. These are all things that I want
us to remember as we move forward. And we will
continue to cover this and look to see what happens
(57:36):
with Hamas and look to see what regional players want
a more stable and prosperous but at least but this
is the question of the moment. Are there Muslim majority
Arab countries, including now perhaps a majority of the Palestinian people,
who want their lives to be about whether their kids
(57:58):
are able to pick the careers they want, build the
families they want, and have the futures that they want,
or is it going to be you know, suicide bombers,
a lot of walk bar and all the other nonsense
and atrocities that we have seen for decades. That's that's
really what it comes down to. This is a choice.
The Israeli stand on the other side of this, willing
(58:21):
to say, Okay, we can move forward with that positive,
with that prosperous future, and America and other partners here
are willing to be there in assistance to build a
Gaza where the lights stay on, the waters clean to drink,
the you know, the the businesses can flourish, and we
(58:46):
can do that. You know, Gaza can be I'm on,
Gaza can be a safe, you know, reasonably happy and
prosperous place. And everywhere has their challenges. But there's an
old joke about and I say this, I've been to
Jordan and I think the Jordanians are great people, and
they're actually great allies to America too. But people joke
(59:08):
around that it's the hash of my kingdom of boredom
because not a lot goes on there. Now that's unfair,
and there's Petro and there's a lot of cool stuff,
but there's a very low crime rate in I'm on.
So it's said really with praise in a sense that
it's boring. It's a very low crime rate and generally
a stable place. Gaza could be a stable, reasonable place too.
(59:30):
It does not have to be some terrorist hellhole, doesn't
have to be that. And now maybe maybe that can happen,
and it will be because of the people that have
seen this with clarity along and also brave DF soldiers
who took the fight to Gaza and did what was necessary.
And President Trump negotiating this deal, President Trump ordering the
(59:51):
strike on Iran, President Trump's standing with Israel when they
debilitated diminished hes Bulah. So all of this together puts
us where we are right now, something to really be
proud of. Well, we'll take some calls here in just
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Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Two guys walk up to a mic Hey anything goes
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton find them on the free
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Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. And it's a big one. A
lot of celebration, a lot of news. Much to discuss
with all of you. All twenty remaining hostages, returns of
the hostages who could have been returned alive. They have
(00:20):
been returned to Israel from Gaza. All twenty remitting hostages
alive in Gaza have been returned to Israel. Is the headline.
A lot of celebration on the streets, the end of
that war, the return of twenty hostages still alive. You've
also got the exchange of couple thousand Palestinian detainees as
(00:43):
part of this process. Trump is in Egypt. He has
been pushing for not just discussions about this deal now,
but also a broader, permanent Mid East peace. He says,
Phase two of the peace deal has begun. We have
a tremendous amount to look at now, both in celebration
(01:05):
and also in look ahead. Here is President Trump. This
is cut ten, addressing Israel's knesse It, their legislative body.
This has cut ten. Listen what the President had to say.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
We gather in a day of profound joy, of soaring hope,
of renewed faith and bubble. A day to give our
deepest thanks to the Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
(01:54):
After two harrowing years and darkness and captivity, twenty courageous
hostages are returning to the glorious embrace of their families.
And it is glorious. Twenty eight more precious loved ones
are coming home at last to rest in this sacred
soil for all of time, and after so many years
(02:19):
of unceasing war and endless danger. Today the skies are calm,
the guns are silent, the sirens are still, and the
sun rises on a holy land that is finally at peace,
a land and a region that will live God willing
in peace for all eternity.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Clay, it is just a momentous, a momentous occasion, a
huge day, massive wind for the Trump administration or humanity. Well,
the first time in my lifetime people are talking about
peace in the Middle East as truly achievable after this
massive agreement has gone into play.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I think it is one of the greatest days of
many great days in the Trump administrations over the past decade.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I had so many thoughts.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
As i watched the hostages come back, and I know
many of you did as well. I think you can
start with the American side, which is they told us
for a decade that Trump was Hitler, and now Trump
is the most popular politician in the history of America
(03:37):
in Israel. Probably a pretty significant sign that that is
a major, major lie that all of us knew was
being told. But I think even for the people who've
been lying about that for a decade, it's going to
become very difficult to do it going forward. The response
that President Trump got in the Knesset was actually better
(04:00):
than the response that he got in the State of
the Union in the House of Representatives Chamber.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I think that's significant.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
And for a big picture take when we went to
Israel in December, producer Ali Andrew on our team and me.
We got off the planes buck we were some of
the only foreigners in Israel, and you saw these hostage
placards everywhere in Tel Aviv airport. For the first time
(04:30):
in two years, they've been taken down. The hostages have
come home. We went to Tel Aviv Hostage Square they
called it, where they had nightly protests to bring back
the hostages. I saw videos of pandemonium breaking out as
all of the hostages, the twenty remaining hostages that are alive,
(04:51):
came back to Israel and met their families. And for
all of you out there that are fortunate enough to
be parents or grandparents, can you imagine the hell of
living with your loved ones, your kids, your grandkids, being
held hostage by Hamas for two straight years and then
suddenly you get to see them in the flesh back Now.
Unfortunately many of those hostages were killed by Jimas, but
(05:13):
for the ones who are still alive, it is a
fitting cornerstone to what we hope is a foundation of
peace that's being built there. And Buck, on top of
everything else, I just look at this and it really
does feel like Trump two point zero is going to
(05:34):
be the most transformative presidency of the twenty first century
by far, and maybe the most transformative presidency since Ronald Reagan.
For those of us out there who have been alive
for the past several generations, Trump is now competing not
to me Buck in the annals of the American presidency
and where he ranks, but in the annals of global politics,
(05:58):
whether it's Churchill, whether it's Reagan, people who were seismic
historical forces for freedom and good and for those of
us out there who have been Trump supporters, this is
a day of validation that our judgment was sound and
we picked the right guy to be leading America out
of a place of darkness into a place of light.
(06:19):
That's kind of my big thoughts as I watched all
of this take place this morning.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Buck, if you were to lay out in advance of
an administration, what are the great things that could be
achieved that have so far been unachievable for previous administrations,
Middy's piece, almost as a cliche, would be at the
top of the list. You know, oh, Middy's piece. So yes,
(06:45):
everyone tries, everyone fails. I actually knew someone who had
worked in the State Department for decades and he said,
the one thing you always have to remember at Middle
East piece is everyone tries, meaning every administration tries and
everyone fails. And that was the cynicism that forty plus
years of trying some kind of a deal. Yes, I
(07:06):
mean stretching back to the Reagan era and the US
intervention in Lebanon and before that. I mean, I don't
even know where you want to start this basically the
World War two era they've been trying to get piece
of the re least has been unachievable. Trump is closer
to that goal now than any administration before him. Clay,
you mentioned you went and visited Israel. You went to
Hostage Square. You know, people are rightly in exaltation. They
(07:31):
are jubilant over the return of twenty of these hostages.
This has been something that the entirety of the Israeli people,
the Jewish people, Americans, allies of Israel, have been waiting for.
But I have to say, the sense of accomplishment here
(07:51):
for anyone who has been focused on this region for
a long time, the sense of accomplishment almost feels surreal
that this is the time that Hamas has accepted truly
a battlefield defeat with conditions that are supposed to get
rid of Hamas period. This honestly evil entity that has
(08:13):
be deviled the region for as long as you and
I have been alive. They are now going to be
under agreement, push out of leadership. This is an end
of an era of terrorism that I think is possible
to achieve now in a way it hadn't been before.
But Minie's piece was where I started in college looking
(08:34):
into the Middle East issue as a realm of study. Clay,
this has been the thing. This has been the durable,
unfortunately challenge for diplomacy and for policy in the region.
And there has never been a day of greater hope
and promise than this one. And there has never been
a president who has achieved more so far than this one.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And how did he do it?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I think there are going to be a lot of
books written about for generations to come if hopefully we
can have a lasting piece that continues to flourish in
the Middle East. I think it's by focusing on fillmaking
over religion. And some people out there are going to say, Okay,
what do you mean by that, Clay. I think Trump's
unique genius here was he has a great relationship with
(09:23):
a lot of the Arab leaders, which is based on
the foundation of we want to build new things business,
we want to create new opportunities through capitalism, and Trump
has those relationships. I think Jared Kushner or Steve Wikoff,
all of those guys are deal makers. They're primarily real
estate guys that have put together big deals elsewhere, and
(09:46):
they basically looked at Midea's peace, not through the prism
of always religion, not through the prism of what I
would say, all of the sort of Swarthmore Faculty lounge
a list on the Democrat party side would have attempted,
but through Okay, let's find a commonality.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
We like to make money, we like to build things.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's an agreement, that's a relationship that's very positive. And
upon that foundation of capitalism and on building new things,
let's create a durable, hopefully and lasting peace on that.
And so I think they started with that commonality and
then work towards the ultimate conclusion here, which is Hamas
(10:30):
has to be eradicated.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Buck I saw somebody share a tweet.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I thought it was great, And there may be multiple
people who've made this argument, but essentially, the only hostages
Hamas has left now are the people of Gaza, and
they have to be allowed to have freedom inside of Gaza.
And this is where now the management of this is
going to be so important, because you have other Arab
leaders who are saying enough already, we don't want to
(10:55):
fight forever with Israel. Let's just build a foundation of
peace and prosperity that all can benefit from. There is
a form of rationality and realism that I think has
taken root, partly based on the relationships of Trump, Jared Kushner,
Steve Wikoff and everybody out there who said, this is
not an intractable problem that can never be solved. Let's
(11:18):
start with the foundation of mutual benefit through commerce. And
I think that's the way Trump has approached this and
had a great deal of success. And they tell me
cut thirteen goes with this if we want to play
cut thirteen.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
From October seventh until this week, Israel has been a
nation at war, enduring burdens that only a proud and
faithful people could withstand.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It was a very tough period of time for.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So many families across this land. It has been years
since you've known a single day of true peace. But now,
at lasts, not only for Israelis, but also for Palestinians
and for many others, the long and painful nightmare is
finally over. And as the dust settles, the smoke phades,
(12:08):
the debris is removed, and the ashes cleaned from the air.
The day that breaks on a region transformed, and a
beautiful and much brighter future appear suddenly within your reach. Clay.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I've had so many people come up to me recently, yes,
but also stretching back over many months, particularly this year
in twenty twenty five, to say thank you to you,
to me for this show, for standing with Israel and
maintaining a moral clarity on what had happened here starting
(12:47):
on October seventh, all the way through two years of war,
when some people, even on the right, some people that
I personally like and have respected their work in the past,
I think, began to see this through the wrong lens,
perhaps began to lose faith in what is a very
(13:08):
clear issue of right and wrong. What is really a
moral war, a just war that has been fought here.
And I've had many people, and even in recent days
that's why I'm thinking about it, come up and say
thank you for what you have been willing to do
and say on the show, because it has been a
tremendously emotionally taxing two years for a lot of American Jews,
(13:34):
for a lot of Americans period who have been observing
this and have been hoping that this conflict would come
to an end, but also maintaining that there has never
been a moral equivalency between the Israeli people between the
IDF and Hamas. And there were a lot of efforts,
a lot of efforts in the media by Democrats and
(13:55):
by leftists in this country to conflate those two, to
confuse the America in public. And now here we are
Donald Trump was never confused. And we see that his
administration saw this with the clarity necessary to bring it
to a just conclusion or the best conclusion we could
hope for under the circumstances.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, and I'll echo that and just leave you all
with a question as we finish the opening segment.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Here, where are all the ceasefire now?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
People celebrating now that they have a ceasefire in the
Middle East?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
For years, college campuses all over American streets, all over
global streets, people marched in the streets chanting ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Now, wouldn't you expect, Buck, if those people.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Were honest about their motivations, that they would all be
out in the streets celebrating. Instead, they're not, because for them,
this is not about peace. It's about hating Israel and
hating Jews, the elon Omhers of the world. They certainly
aren't saying very much about Trump bringing peace to the
Middle East because they don't want peace, they want Israel
(15:02):
eradicated from the Middle East. We'll talk about this some more,
but I want to tell you all eyes on Israel
and the Middle East today the return of twenty hostages
who've been kept in captivity for more than seven hundred
and thirty five days. I hope you watch some of
those reunions with the family. So many moving stories. Israel's
been under near constant assault for the past two years,
(15:24):
since the terror attack of October seventh, twenty twenty three,
and today is one of the proudest days that the
country of Israel has ever had. And I'm not sure
that the relationship between Israel and the United States has
ever been stronger. If you watched Trump's speech today, if
you saw the extreme popularity for President Trump throughout Israel.
(15:46):
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Speaker 1 (16:41):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. It is Columbus Day, everybody.
It's a huge day of celebration for Midi's peace. We're
gonna get back into that in a second, but I
don't want to forget because Columbus is a hero in
this house. Play Columbus, as Tony Sopredo explained to us
so eloquently many years ago, he's a hero in his house,
(17:03):
and he is for what he accomplished in discovering the
new world and overcoming the opposition of really a very
a stone age people was what he came upon. And
things got a little rough, as they tend to in conquests.
I'm not saying it didn't, but here we are now
(17:25):
in a better place, as a civilization. So that's good
news for everybody and the world in communication with each
other as a result of Columbus. All right, So I'm
just saying, Columbus pretty amazing stuff. And maybe we could
have some conversation here later on the show about what
the world was like earlier on. But let's get back
(17:49):
into Trump and the massive Mid East piece deal. Let's
get into where things stand right now with all of this.
Trump is speaking, by the way, we'll bring you some
of that audio moment Terror. But here I thought this
was really interesting, CNN's Clarissa Ward saying Trump is possibly
even more popular in Israel than he is in America.
(18:11):
Right now, play cut four.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
They have been cheering like crazy from the moment that
Air Force one was first spotted making its descent over
Tel Aviv landing at benger And Airport, to the moment
where the door of Air Force one opened and President
Trump then began to make his way down the steps
(18:34):
of the aircraft. You heard the whole crowd here started
to erupt into chairs of thank you Trump, thank you Trump.
And I have to say, everywhere you go here there
are posters of Trump. We have seen people who have
made artifacts dedicated to Trump. Fair to say that President
(18:56):
Trump is possibly even more popular here that he is
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Clay could join to just give you some of the
some of the highlights here from some of these folks,
because well, as you've been saying all along, I know
you want to jump in on this point because it's
an important one. It's bizarre for the state of Israel,
home to the Jewish people, or you know, the homeland
of the Jewish people. Bizarre that he is so that
(19:27):
Donald Trump is so beloved, and yet there are people
here who say that he is Hilarian. That's quite strange.
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, And when I was over there in December, I
remember having conversation with people and they said, look, if
Israel was an American state, Israel would vote for President
Trump more than Wyoming did, more than Mississippi did, more
than West Virginia did, Tennessee Alabama, wherever Trump is his
(19:58):
most popular in the United States, if Israel were our
fifty first state, they would vote for Trump more. And
so I wonder as I watched that Clarissa a Ward report,
which I actually think underplays it because she says he's
probably more popular in Israel. He's definitely more popular in
Israel than he is in the United States. What do
all those CNN viewers who have been told that he
(20:20):
is Hitler, what do they think when they hear Clarissa
Ward saying the guy is more popular among Jews than
any American has ever been. Like, it's just the cognitive
dissonance has to be off the charts.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
The advantage of being delusional is you never have to
be accountable, something I discussed in my upcoming book, Miss
a Good Praise in January, Thank you, thank you, But
you never have to go back and actually look at
what you were saying, what you were thinking, what reality is.
Now they'll tell themselves, well, even Hitler can get lucky,
you know themselves, whatever crazy thing they have to to
(20:58):
explain why they have said that Donald Trump is Hitler,
which is it's insane on its own, an insane statement.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And actually, as we have been saying for a decade,
but this is their talking point, and I do think
it is hard for a talking point to be more
publicly refuted.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I think we have met Benjamin at Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Let's just go ahead and put this out there, saying
Israel's never loved an American politician more here is net
Yahoo in the Knessea just a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
Thank you for withdrawing from the disastrous Iron Mucler deal.
Thank you for supporting Operation Rising Line, and for your
bold decision to launch Operation Midnight hammer.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Boy, is that you got to hear this? This is
the most.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Fitting name ever named for a military operation, because a
little after midnight you'll really hammered them.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
My friends, this is only a partial list, but it's
enough to affirm what I've said time and again. Donald
Trump is the greatest friend that the State of Visul
has ever had in the White House.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I mean, that speaks pretty full force on what the
reality is here of Donald Trump as a president and
also as an ally of a state of viral and
Jewish people. And that's something else that I want to
address here, Clay, because and I understand this and all
the GAT veterans listening veterans of a rock Afghanistan and
the other counter terrorism counter ge hottest military operations of
(22:38):
the last twenty four years or so and beyond, but
particularly the post nine to eleven era. A Middle East
like what we are seeing right now with the worst
players in the worst position they have been in in
living memory. Is the best possible future for the US
(23:00):
because it means that there's not even going to be
or there won't even be a need for Hey, we're
not fighting that war. Hey we're not putting troops on
the ground in that place. It is America first to
have a peaceful Middle East that we don't even have
to think about or worry about. That we can just
get oil and other things from in trade, and we
can visit countries that we want to visit safely as
(23:22):
American citizens, and that it doesn't have to be this
royling healthscape constantly. That's a good thing for this country.
It's a good thing for America, even if you are
a staunch non interventionist. Isn't it great to never even
have to think about that possibility going forward? Now? That
is contingent on Hamas being removed from leadership. It's contingent
(23:45):
on none of these terrorist groups resurging. I know you
have a former al Qaeda guy running Syria. There are
still problems and risks, but there's a better realistic possibility
clay for a durable framework of peaceful coexistence in the
Middle East now than at any time in my lifetime,
and I've been following this. I mean I've been studying
(24:06):
this since I was a teenager in high school, so
we're going back thirty years.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And for the America First people out there, it's really
hard for America to be first without affordable oil and gas.
And the relationship between Trump and the Saudis has ensured
that oil is free flowing and that we're able to
effectively run commerce here in the United States. We can't
(24:33):
be held hostage by petro dictators. This makes that much
less likely, which makes America stronger, which Trump understands. I
also think there's another little angle here worth pointing out.
You and I were right about the necessity of striking
Iran that was considered to be controversial five six months ago.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Whenever it happened.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I don't think Hamas would have agreed to this deal
if Trump hadn't shown them the hard fist of American power.
Lot of you out there who are on to understand
people on the left, they want to claim that peace
needs to happen. Can't have peace without strength. You can't
have peace without somebody knowing that you could beat their
(25:13):
ass if you needed to. And Israel basically wiping out
Iran in twelve days with the assistance of the United States.
I think it was very eye opening for people in
the Middle East, because Iran's entire leadership has based its
existence on We're going to wipe Israel off the earth.
We are going to go to war with America, and
(25:33):
we're going to win. That's what their leadership has been
telling the people of Iran all throughout the Persian Empire.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And what happened in twelve days.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
They were begging for mercy, and if the United States
had so desired, the Ayah Tolah would have been overthrown.
We chose not to do that, but everybody in the
Middle East saw that power, saw that strength, and I
think the reverberations of that power and strength is what
helped to lead Hamas to the willingness to finally give
the hostages back and effectively seed control of Gaza to
(26:05):
a larger Arab peace communities. Now there's lots of details
to be worked out. Unfortunately, there's always going to be
terrorists who want to attack Israel in the Holy Land.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
That's not going to go away.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
But I think if you look at Hesball in the North,
I think if you look at what's happened to Iran,
I think if you look at what's happened to all
of the proxies funded by Iran in the wake of
October seventh, they have been largely neutered and wiped out.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And speaking of neuter some of Trump's biggest critics having
to come forward, and how can you talk about this
in a negative way? You would sound even crazier than usual.
On MSNBC, as I said, Clay Middy's piece has been
the thing that people have been striving for an administrations
(26:50):
for our entire lives, quite honestly and unsuccessfully correct. And
I understand that there's still a lot of clock, so
to speak, left here. We're talking about an indeterminate future
and things can change, but this is the first time
that it has been, like I said, a realistic framework
of peaceful coexistence for Israelis neighbors, and also with Iran
(27:12):
now defanged, the broader Middle East is looking better than
it has. The willingness of the Saudis and the Gulf
States to be constructive with international relations in the Middle East.
Here it is massive the implications of all of this. Meanwhile,
over at MSNBC, their favorite historian John Meacham, who has
(27:34):
said that Trump is a threat to democracy. This is
an existential threat. I mean, he's, along with the others,
said some of the craziest things you'll hear anyone say
on MSNBC about Trump. Even he's even he has had
to be like, you know what, it's a pretty good
day for Trump. Play seven.
Speaker 10 (27:51):
It's a terrific day for the hostage families. It's a
terrific day for President Trump for our national interests. You're right,
we don't know how the story ends, but stories are
made up of chapters.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But we should make no mistake about this.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
This is a victory for President Trump and for those
who wish that we can govern ourselves at home and
around the world, not simply by brute force, but by
ideas and civilized norms.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
This is a I give credit to Meet Chim.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I want to see who's been Biden's best buddy, who
tried to tell Biden, hey, you're transformative president, you can
be FDR. A lot of these guys who are historians,
I believe, are start are going to start to recognize
that they've been on the wrong side of history and
that historians are good at analyzing history fifty or one
(28:51):
hundred years after it happens in retrospect. Not always great
at analyzing history in real time.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Remember that.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
More on, Michael Beschlos said that if Trump on, people
would be lined up with firing squads, and you know,
there wouldn't be history in the future. I wonder when
he's waking up now. Again, if you're a rational person,
at some point in time, you have to acknowledge all
of the evidence. And I understand there's thirty five percent
of America that's so brain dead that they wouldn't you know,
(29:19):
if Trump made everybody a billionaire and peace rain throughout
the world, they would still find something wrong with it.
So there's about thirty five percent of the population that
are unpersuadable. They are their brains are broken by Trump
derangement syndrome. But I do think there's fifteen or twenty
percent of people out there that are still sitting around
(29:40):
that are having a hard time reconciling what they've been
told for the past decade by the legacy media and
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Second hour of Clay and Buck get's going right now,
and our friend Carol Markowitz is in the mix. Oh,
Clay had to step away, so it's just gonna be
me guys on the host side for the rest of
the show. Clay is in Mississippi and he is doing
an interview of a sports legend. I had not heard
of the fellow before, but apparently very important in the
(31:24):
SEC sports world. So that's going on, and I am
here with Carol Markowitz in the meantime, and Carol, you
know what, First of all, congrats two years this week
of the Carol Markwitz program on the Clay and Buck
podcast network. So there's a lot of celebration going on
all over the place today, a lot of celebration. Some
(31:44):
people are saying a day of celebration. You know, we're
gonna look into it. Day of celebration everywhere. But let's
actually speaking of Trump kind of. Let's just a few
moments ago he said this, This has cut thirty guys
on his gazap piece plan the signing of it. Play
this one.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's to three thousand years to get to this point,
can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And it's going to hold up too.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's going to hold up.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Clay. I mean, Carol, Sorry, please God, Carol. Bold talk
from mister Trump. But I think a lot of people
are saying he's got the hot hand. Don't doubt him.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I agree if anybody who's doubting him right now is
making a big mistake. I think that he is in
a really good position to enforce this piece. I of
course worry about what's going to happen in three years
when he is out of office. You know, I've been
making the Trump twenty twenty eight joke because of this,
But it's going to be really tough for anybody to
follow in his footsteps and to enforce the piece that
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he's established. In the Middle East. I think that it
is a very hopeful moment. It's a hopeful moment for
that whole region. They should take this opportunity that Trump
has given them and live peaceful lives.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's a huge moment for the Israeli people today with
the return of those twenty hostages who were still held
alive in captivity in Gaza. Carol, I do think, though,
it should be noted just how vile it is that
there were hostages taken in the first place, that so
(33:18):
many of the hostages died in captivity. And also, while
I know it's joyous for the families to have their
loved ones back, the treatment of the hostages was horrific.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Yeah, it was appalling, and the world was largely silent
about it. America was really the bright spot in this
and they really it showed. It showed because when Britain
or in France are now trying to take credits for
this piece deal, when they really stood in the way
of it at every opportunity, really appalling. But yeah, you're
absolutely right. You know, my nine year old at one
(33:53):
point during the last two years said to me, why
doesn't Israel just take their people and hold them hostage
and then they guild, you know that then they'll understand.
And it's so hard to convey to him that civilized
countries don't do this, that this is not the work
of civilized people. They don't steal babies and their mother
isn't kill them in captivity. That is just just it's
horrendous to even think about. And the fact that Israel
(34:16):
is coming out of this strong and united is a
real bright point for me.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yes, it seems the Israeli people recognize the well the
incredibly momentous nature of what is going on here. And
let's talk about that a bit, because when you and
I haven't gotten into some of the details that have
come out about the negotiations and specifically Trump's role in it.
(34:42):
But yes, it was only possible, and even his biggest attractors,
some of his biggest attractors, are admitting that without Trump,
this deal doesn't happen the way that it did. But
some of the regional players, you know, some of the
regional countries put real pressure on Hamas here too, which
is an indie cater, right it.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Is, And hopefully that holds up as well. I hope
that these countries don't backtrack on that. I hope they
see Hamas as the losers that they are. And the
fact that the last two years didn't have to happen.
October seventh didn't have to happen, and all the days
since then didn't have to happen. So all the people
who pretended that they wanted peace for the last two years,
now that peace is here, I'd love to hear them celebrating.
(35:23):
But you're right, the countries in the Middle East need
to enforce this as much as anybody else does they
need to say to Hamas that the days of killing
innocent people and doing things like this is over. More
than anything else, they all need to accept that Israel
isn't going anywhere. And I hope that they can do that.
I know that that is a stretch for a lot
of the countries. You know, it's a stretch for a
lot of the people who have been radicalized. But that's
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the main goal here, is to say Israel's not going anywhere.
How do we live in peace side by side?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
How do you feel about the prospects for Hamas being
truly pushed aside in all this? One of our callers
in the last hour brought up that there's been some
factional fighting inside of Gaza already between the mas terrorists
and this this this sort of entity, this group, I believe,
(36:11):
a family that has considerable sway inside of Hamasastan if
you will, And there's clearly a score settling and a
jockeying for power that's going on there. But is it
just going to be on Israel's shoulders? Once again, that
if Jimas starts starts breaking the deal, that Yahoo and
(36:31):
the IDF are going to have to go in there
and finish the right.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Well, absolutely, if Hamas starts breaking the deal, there's no
question that they're going to have to go back in.
But the real question is what if that area breaks
out into a civil war? What if they are fighting
each other? What is Qatar? What is Egypt?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
What do they do?
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Then?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
What do all the countries that are involved in this
peace process do at that point? And it's hard to
say because who are the good guys in that situation?
Nobody really knows, And I you know, again, I'm hopeful
about that about this moment, but there's so many you know,
details here that are really large questions hanging over the
whole thing. Again, I hope these countries all step up
(37:11):
and do the right thing and enforce peace overall, but
you know, it gets really murky over there.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah. Well, of course we speaking of Carol Markowitz, hosts
of The Carol Markowitz Show and which is two yr
University normally also with Mary Katherine ham on the Claim
Buck podcast network. So walk me through some of the
what do you see as critical for what comes next
here because we haven't the first hour. Just you know,
Carol was this is amazing, so happy for the families,
(37:38):
you might have heard some of it. You know, Trump
giant win for him. You know, forget about Mount Rushmore,
it should be Mount trump Moore at this point, right.
I mean, people are all very excited about this, but
what comes next It's.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
So hard to say. Because of that internal struggle and
because they've been for so long radicalized to believe that
they could end Israel at some point. The last two
years have shown that region anything, it's that Israel isn't
going anywhere. I think that iran Twelve Day War was
very instrumental in that. I think guitar is thinking twice
about their alliance with Iran at that point, because Iran
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was supposed to be the lion that they were supposed
to be the ones who would should they get involved
in a war in the Middle East, that war would
end very quickly and Iran would be the victor. Turns
out that's not the case. So these countries needed this
reality check. It's unfortunate that it came in such a way,
with so many people dead, but this is the truth
there is that they need to accept Israel and they
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need to understand that all of the previous things that
they've done to harm the relationship of Israel with other countries.
It needs to come to an end. They could have peace,
That's what Trump is saying to them. You could live peacefully.
You can have Gaza be a beach resort, you can
be different, you can raise your children differently. That's really
what I hope happens here.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, that's the huge mindset shift that were all hoping
occurs here for these Middle Eastern people's Middle Eastern countries.
So that aspect of it, I think is very much
to be decided. But there's reason to believe. There's reason
for optimism. I would say, in a region where optimism
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has been in deeply short supply for a long time.
And on the optimistic side of things, I mean, Carol,
just looking at this from a you know, former CIA
targeting and that perspective, hes belah weakest that has been
in certainly recent memory, hamas weakest it has been, or
(39:38):
on weakest that has been. I mean you start to
look at the regional evildoers, I mean, the malefactors, the
bad players in all of this, and they have been
substantially brought to heal they have.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, and again this couldn't have happened a lot of
the things that you mentioned could not have happened without
alliance between the United States and Israel. What always happens
when Israel gets attacked, and this is true even when
those Republican presidents, they are stopped from finishing any of
the jobs that they need to finish. In this case,
Donald Trump gave Israel so much space to do what
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they needed to do and to not prematurely end the conflict,
which is generally what happens. When I was in Israel
last year or two years ago, many people said to me,
you know what always ends up happening at the end
of these wars is our greatest ally says that's enough.
That's how that's how the war ends. It doesn't end
because we finished the job. It's because America says no more.
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This time, Donald Trump said no, They're going to get
to do what they need to do to end this.
And that's the only way piece is really possible here.
Donald Trump has been a miracle for that region. And
you hear israeli is today, you know, posting their their
thoughts online and they're all so grateful and they understand
that it is Donald Trump. It was President Trump who
(40:57):
led the way on this and they really really get
that it's America's role that has led them to peace.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
If you could speak also, Carol, to the perspective of
a proud American Jew as you are, and what it
has been like for the last two years to see
some of the yes. Debate and discussion is always fine,
and these are rady issues of foreign policy and war
and peace. But there was something else that gained a
(41:25):
lot of steam over the last two years here at home,
never mind the Middle East. And I know it was
it was troubling to see it was, but I.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
Still think it was largely on the left. I know
that the right is going through its own insane moment
right now, but I still think it's so limited. Every
poll shows that the right continues to be in the
right place in terms of Israel, in terms of Jews
in America. So I've been grateful to be a conservative
these last two years because my non Jewish friends, my Clays,
and my bucks have been so behind us and so
(41:56):
amazing that it's been heartwarming and comforting and secure. Really,
I felt so secure in my conservative beliefs because my
side was on the right side. And there's a lot
to that. A lot of my liberal Jewish friends have
been scrambling the last two years and openly said that
none of their friends say a word about any of this,
and don't talk about the fact that Jewish kids on
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college campuses can't go to classes and they're being harassed
and sometimes hurt, and their friends don't say a word.
And I'm like, well, my friends said many words. And
I feel so grateful for you, so grateful for Clay,
so grateful for many others on the conservative right. I
think that we're in a strong place where we have
a hopeful future, and I you know, it feels good
(42:39):
right now to be a Jewish conservative.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Absolutely. Well, I still sit here and you and I
have had this conversation before wing left wing Jews are
It's a little bit like left wing Catholics to me.
But that's a whole other conversation. I'm just like, what
are you doing, Like, explain to me how this is
a thing that you are going to hold up politically speaking.
But anyway, I also, I know you have friends and
(43:03):
even some extended family in Israel on your on your
husband's side, on Shay's side. What's the feeling like over there?
I mean, just described to me because I know you're
in contact with them. How are they doing today?
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Just such joy and gratefulness. His sister, a sister is
there and she's sending pictures from the Hostage Square has
now been renamed Freed Square, and it's just it's an
amazing moment. I have to say that I think a
lot of Israelis believed this moment as possible. I'm a
very optimistic person, but I did not think this is
(43:35):
going to happen. I really didn't. I thought I thought
those hostages would meet a terrible end in captivity. I
have to admit that I didn't believe. And I thought
those yellow ribbons that people wore, I thought they'd wear
them forever. So they had hope that I simply didn't have.
I guess they had to have that hope, that hope
being realized today. It just smiling faces, National holiday, biggest
(43:57):
deal ever over there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Jack got the Carol Marker with show Everybody on the
clan Buck podcast network. Also look for her columns in
The New York Post. Carol, hugs to you, Shy and
the whole family, and a great day, and thank you
so much for joining to share your thoughts on it
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Columbus Day, Mid East Peace Day, Trump on the World
stage day, a lot of stuff happening, and mostly very good,
very encouraging, very.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Promising, happy to see it. And that is this weemer
We take stock of our wins here on this show
as well. We don't just do the catas everything everything
is terrible, nothing matters, you know. That's it's such a
boring and cheap way to get attention for content, whether
it's written or spoken or TV. We don't do that.
(46:51):
When there's problems, we say there are problems, and we
talk about how to fix them. When there are wins,
we take a moment to describe and enjoy together those wins.
And today is certainly a big win for the Trump administration,
for Israel and for the broader Middle East. And if
you hear any growling in the background, it is because
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Ginger realizes that my lunch has made its way into
the studio and now all of a sudden, she loves
me more than ever. Look at that, my little Australian
labradoodle has decided that, you know, Trump is pretty great.
But Papa Buck has some fresh cooked chicken nearby, so
I got to make sure that she's not growling into
the microphone here. All right, let's get let's dive into this.
(47:37):
I think this is really interesting, the details of how
Trump got this deal to go through. Wall Street Journal
had a really excellent write up on this in the
last twenty four hours, and let me share some of
this with you. When Hamas leader Khalil al Haya first
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saw President Trump's planned for peace in Gaza, which demanded
that his group disarm with few concrete steps to ensure
Israel would end the war, his immediate reaction was no.
The plan, heavily amended by Israel and presented to Hamas
by the Katari Prime Minister and Egypt's spy chief, looked
(48:19):
nothing like what Haya had been led to expect. Hyah,
who less than a month earlier had been a target
of Israel's audacious attack on Hamas in Kutter, told his
visitors the group would keep its Israeli hostages until it
had enforceable guarantees the war would end. But two days
later Hamas came back to Arab mediators with a yes.
(48:43):
The deal hadn't changed the picture on Hamas had. Egypt
and Cutter told Haya the deal was his last chance
to end the war. According to the officials, they pressed
Hamas to understand that holding the hostages was becoming a
strategic liability, giving Israel a source of legitimacy to keep fighting.
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End quote. Okay, this is really important because we often
think of this as a US Israel idf action. Right,
It's like we're negotiating. Trump is negotiating, Israel's doing the fighting,
and we have intermediaries over there. But clearly the diplomacy
that the Trump administration was engaged in and really negotiations
(49:30):
more like a business deal than what I think your
general diplomat would be engaged in. Right, Trump has a
different approach to this stuff. I mean diplomats. I've known
State Department diplomats. I've been around State Department diplomats in
an earlier life when I was a government guy myself.
They don't get stuff done. It's just not a culture
(49:50):
of getting things done. It's a culture of process. The
State Department is, by its very nature a lethargic bureaucracy
that mostly exists to exist because we got to have
diplomats somewhere, we got to have open lines of communication
with these different countries, et cetera. But generally, the results, overwhelmingly,
(50:14):
the results are really unimpressive. Trump comes in there, and
he's got sleeves rolled up. He's got his team led
by Marco Rubio, whom I might point out, Trump is
saying he's gonna go down in history as the greatest
secretary of state in our history. Now, I'm gonna say
I think Rubio. Full credit to Rubio for doing a
(50:35):
phenomenal job so far. But if you're talking secretaries of
state in all history, there have been some pretty big moves,
you know, right, didn't one of them buy Alaska? I mean,
there's been some pretty big stuff, So I don't. Yeah,
I'm not saying Marco is not gonna get there, but
number one for Marco all time, number one, maybe our lifetime, sure,
number one all time. We still got a little work
(50:56):
to do, you know, there's there's still some things that
have to be looked at here. But certainly it has
been the administration's team that got us to this point,
which is an incredible success. And the fact that you
have these other Mideast countries that were willing to tell
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Hamas you got to knock this crap off an end
this war like enough is enough, is really indicative. I
think of how much the pressure that Trump's team was
bringing to bear had borne fruit how much this was
really moving the ball downfield because Cutter as you know,
(51:41):
these really's launched a strike and Cutter then Trump had
the whole come on, you got to apologize. I mean,
Trump has been the guy in the bar here who
is holding back two guys who have really bloodied each
other up. And one of them started it and some
us one of them is responsible for the fight. But
he was able to stand in between these combatants and say,
(52:04):
all right, you're gonna knock this off. And hey, you
if they knock it off, you're willing to uh, you're
willing to let it go right. You know, we're gonna
stop this thing. And you needed that, you needed that
to get us to this point. But that Turkey would
for example, Turkey is way too favorable toward Hamas for
(52:25):
a whole bunch of reasons. But that Turkey is gonna say,
if you don't agree to this deal, we're you're on
your own. Basically, Turkey was telling Hamas, we're cutting you loose.
That's a big for people who have been following the
region another that's big stuff.
Speaker 9 (52:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
You know Hamas has been far too willing uh or Rather,
Turkey has been far too willing to be there in
support of Hamas through through thick and thin. Finally it
got to be too thin, finally got to be too much.
So this campaign that got the final the final really surrender.
(53:05):
It's Hamas is surrendered. It's a surrender with guarantees, but
surrender is what this is, and that's what it should be.
The members of Hamas who are still alive should consider
themselves lucky. I know Hamas is a death cult and
they love sending other people to die and to kill
as many innocent Israelis and Jews as possible. I know
that's what Hamas really is at its core, but it's
(53:29):
still for the leadership that somehow doesn't like to die.
The Hamas leadership, they don't like to be suicide bombers.
They would have sent other people to be suicide bombers.
But for Hamas leadership, they should count themselves very lucky,
very fortunate that they still have their lives at the
end of this, because Israel would have been well within
its rights. And really, I have argued from the beginning,
(53:51):
Israel had an obligation to wipe Hamas out after what
they did on October seventh, and a moral obligation to
the Israeli and to the world. To the degree there
isn't international community, just humanity, Israel had an obligation, a
moral and ethical one as well as just a national
security imperative to hunt Hamas down, and they have done so,
(54:18):
and they have been incredibly effective as well as ethical
in that process. That does not mean perfect. War is
never perfect. There will always be civilian casualties. There's always
going to be collateral damage to a city. But now
even it will become more clear than ever. The people
who were telling you that there was mass starvation in
(54:39):
Gaza as a result of Israeli policy were lying. The
people who are saying that Israel was engaged in a genocide,
we're lying. This is going to become even more clear
in the days ahead. Those voices are just going to
try to fade, I might add, they're going to fade,
and you're going to hear a lot less of them.
(55:02):
But what they were saying was a slander, and it
was morally obtuse, it was decrepit, it was disgraceful, and
that is what they were doing intentionally during a time
of war, to confuse as much as they could America
as an ally of Israel in this process. This was
(55:23):
always very clear to me and to Clay, and to
Clay's immense credit, I know he's away for the rest
of the show today. We never coordinated response. We never
had to say, well, you know, we're going to be
disagreeing or agreeing on this or anything like that. From
the moment October seventh happened forward, we saw this through
(55:46):
the same moral lens, and I think that's I have
obviously an international relations national security background, but Clay's just
a very high IQ, high wattage guy, and also with
a very clear sense of right and wrong, and so
we never had static on this show. We never had
(56:08):
a sense of, oh, but maybe Israel has gone too far,
or maybe Israel is engaged in a genocide. That never
and you know this, you who have been listening for
these two years, that never entered into our consciousness on
the show for one second. And we followed this as
closely as we could from Afar and Clay went to
get ground truth in Israel, as you know, last December.
(56:31):
But I'm very proud of that, and as I've been saying,
I've had a lot of people come up who are
listeners to the show. And I have a tremendous number
of conservative Miami Beach American Jews who listened to this show.
I know because when I'm walking the streets, they come
up to me and the first thing they say is
great show. The second thing they say is thank you
for standing with Israel and not not. You know, abandoning
(56:52):
would be extreme, but even being a bit wishy washy
on it, you know, even getting to a place where
you started, Oh, I'm just asking questions. You know, is
really the good guy here? Or is the idea of
really justified? Is no none of that nonsense here for
one second. And now that this conflict is over, I
think people will be able to look back on it
(57:14):
with even more factual clarity about who was accurate and
who was playing propaganda with this stuff. So these are
all important considerations. These are all things that I want
us to remember as we move forward. And we will
continue to cover this and look to see what happens
(57:36):
with Hamas and look to see what regional players want
a more stable and prosperous but at least but this
is the question of the moment. Are there Muslim majority
Arab countries, including now perhaps a majority of the Palestinian people,
who want their lives to be about whether their kids
(57:58):
are able to pick the careers they want, build the
families they want, and have the futures that they want,
or is it going to be you know, suicide bombers,
a lot of walk bar and all the other nonsense
and atrocities that we have seen for decades. That's that's
really what it comes down to. This is a choice.
The Israeli stand on the other side of this, willing
(58:21):
to say, Okay, we can move forward with that positive,
with that prosperous future, and America and other partners here
are willing to be there in assistance to build a
Gaza where the lights stay on, the waters clean to drink,
the you know, the the businesses can flourish, and we
(58:46):
can do that. You know, Gaza can be I'm on,
Gaza can be a safe, you know, reasonably happy and
prosperous place. And everywhere has their challenges. But there's an
old joke about and I say this, I've been to
Jordan and I think the Jordanians are great people, and
they're actually great allies to America too. But people joke
(59:08):
around that it's the hash of my kingdom of boredom
because not a lot goes on there. Now that's unfair,
and there's Petro and there's a lot of cool stuff,
but there's a very low crime rate in I'm on.
So it's said really with praise in a sense that
it's boring. It's a very low crime rate and generally
a stable place. Gaza could be a stable, reasonable place too.
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It does not have to be some terrorist hellhole, doesn't
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And President Trump negotiating this deal, President Trump ordering the
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