October 14, 2025 • 56 mins
You Can't Deny Success
A deep dive into President Donald Trump’s historic 36-hour diplomatic marathon and the groundbreaking Gaza peace deal. Clay and Buck open the hour by contrasting Trump’s high-energy international diplomacy with Joe Biden’s limited schedule, highlighting Trump’s whirlwind trip to Israel and Egypt, his speeches to the Knesset, meetings with world leaders, and the signing of a landmark ceasefire agreement that secured the release of all Israeli hostages and nearly 2,000 Palestinian detainees. The hosts emphasize that this achievement positions Trump as a dominant figure in Middle East peace negotiations—surpassing past presidents from Carter to Obama.
The discussion features reactions from unlikely sources: left-leaning media figures and celebrities such as Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and Joe Scarborough, who publicly acknowledged Trump’s success. Clay and Buck play clips from CNN, MSNBC, and prominent Democrats praising Trump’s role in brokering peace, noting how even Trump’s fiercest critics are conceding victory. They explore whether this diplomatic triumph will resonate with everyday Americans or remain a major news story without shifting public opinion, particularly among Jewish voters. The conversation touches on cultural and political dynamics within the Jewish community, analyzing whether Trump’s achievement could influence voting trends.
A Bet is a Bet
Alyssa Farah Griffin, former Trump White House communications director turned TV personality, made a bet that she’d wear a MAGA hat if President Trump brought the hostages home. Where is that hat, Alyssa?
Corruption Masterclass
Legal trouble for New York Attorney General Letitia James, who faces allegations of mortgage fraud tied to a Virginia property. Clay and Buck break down the indictment details, including claims that James misrepresented the home as a second residence while allegedly housing family members rent-free—one reportedly a convicted felon. They debate her potential defense strategy, jury dynamics, and whether political bias could influence the outcome, while noting her high-powered legal team and the broader implications for accountability.
Eric Trump Calls In
A high-profile conversation featuring Eric Trump, discussing his new book Under Siege: My Family’s Fight to Save Our Nation, which has surged to the top of Amazon’s bestseller list. Eric shares candid insights into the Trump family’s battle against what he calls unprecedented “lawfare,” including multiple indictments, media attacks, and efforts to silence their voices. He details the staggering cost of defending against politically motivated investigations, the Russia collusion hoax, IRS leaks, and social media censorship, framing these challenges as part of a broader fight for free speech and constitutional values.
The discussion also highlights President Trump’s historic achievement in brokering Middle East peace, a diplomatic breakthrough that even mainstream media and late-night hosts acknowledged as impressive. Eric emphasizes how Trump’s business acumen and results-driven mindset—shared by figures like Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff —enabled him to succeed where career politicians failed. The segment underscores Trump’s resilience, his “superhuman” focus, and the enduring energy behind the MAGA movement, which Eric calls “the greatest political movement in American history.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
It is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments
alongside of his administration, and I never would have believed
the day, but as I look down at the roster,
we have praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel,
Joe Scarborough, and an incredible montage our team put together
(01:03):
of all different sorts of Democrats seeing Donald Trump's praises.
I think this is frankly remarkable, and I think it
deserves all of the public acclamation. We will run through
some of those in a moment, but I just wanted
to hit you with this buck. In the past twenty
(01:26):
four hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule. Remember, we went
from my cousin mid I was gonna say, my cousin Vinnie.
We went from weekend at Bernie's apologies to my cousin Vinnie,
great film Weekend at Bernie's presidency of Joe Biden. They
tried to run Weekend at Bernie's two where they would
hide him. He could only do events from like ten
(01:46):
to two, then they would hide him if they ever
did any press availabilities. They gave him note cards to
call on members of the press with pre screened questions.
Listen to what Trump has done just in the last
twenty four hours. He flew to Israel, spoke to the
press there in Israel, met with Israeli leaders, spoke to
(02:08):
the press again, met with families of the hostages, delivered
an hour long speech to the Kanesse that is basically
the Israeli Congress, did another interview, flew to Egypt, met
with the President of Egypt, spoke to the press again,
took photos and chatted individually with dozens of world leaders,
(02:30):
signed the historic Gaza Peace Deal, delivered another speech, met
privately with world leaders, flew back to the United States.
He touched ground publicly, walking across the grass of the
south lawn of the White House. I believe Buck at
three am one of the most extraordinary thirty six hours.
(02:50):
He took off at three pm, thirty six hours before
when all the way to the Middle East, did all
of those things, got back off the plane at three am,
and today is celebrating and awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica,
the Presidential Medal of Freedom for another public event.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
For those of you who travel.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Internationally, and I imagine a lot of you out there
have done this at some point in time, it is Buck,
you just did this. You just flew to Taiwan, and
you just came back. Traveling internationally is one of the
most draining things that you can do, skipping across twelve
hours of time zones, all these different things for anybody,
no matter their age. For a seventy nine year old
(03:38):
president who has to be at the top of his game,
delivering one of the most consequential and I think well
delivered addresses of his entire political career. We're talking about superhuman,
extraordinarily unbelievable levels of mental focus and energy to be
able to put all this together for anyone, whether you
(03:59):
were the CEO of a company, whether you're working in construction,
whether you're a twenty two year old listening to us
right now, that's an unbelievable thirty six hours of accomplishment.
And coming on the heels of Joe Biden, it is
even more extraordinary. I think what a thirty six hours
President Trump just put together.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's been fun just watching all of the Trump adversary
media having to find ways to package this for their audience. Overwhelmingly,
they've taken the you know, he's terrible on They say
a bunch of things, and then they go but I
have to say, this is pretty darn good, and I
(04:40):
don't think that there could be any more obvious. There
could be no more clear endorsement of the massive victory
here than even Trump's biggest detractors, at least in the media,
are having to say, yeah, I think this is a
pretty good one. Here's a great example. So Clay, You'll
remember when I did the show before this last election,
(05:02):
and there were a lot of things that were interesting
about that. One is I was like, you guys are
about to get absolutely smoked in this election, and the
audience did not boo. I think they knew that things
were not looking good for them at that point. It
was what late September, I think, before the election, so
maybe about a month ago. And the other thing was
I said to Bill Maher I think this was on camera,
(05:23):
but I definitely said it to him off camera. I said,
you know that he's really not going to destroy the
country and it's going to be fine, right, I mean,
you actually know that. And I swear he looked at
me and he said, I don't know that. I don't know.
I think he actually might destroy America. He seemed to
truly believe that. Well, Clay, here he is. This is
cut three, having to face reality play it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I always say this, you cannot ever deny success. You
just have to give your respect, even if it's not
your thing. Don't have the humility to give it up
for enormous success on any level. Trump not my choice.
Didn't vote for him, but so a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Of people did.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
And he's I can't deny the success. I can't either. Yeah,
and he's the president and he's the president.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's pretty much where any honest left of center person
in this country has to be. Right now, Clay, you
can't deny the success, guys, it's there. It's in front
of all of us.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
If Joe Biden had gotten all of the hostages out
of Gaza and delivered a sterling speech giving the virtues
of freedom and American leadership, and traveled and just run
through that thirty six hour stretch, he couldn't have done
any of it, Let's be clear. And that's why you
and me and most of you out there did not
(06:47):
vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. Kamala Harris could
not have done any of this, and she's twenty years
younger than President Trump. But if they had, I would
have come on and said, hey, you know what, this
is a good result. As I give credit. Bill Clinton
came out and said it, let's play this. I mean,
this is Trump is so successful. Now you and I
have and we're gonna see Trump's praises because we think
(07:10):
he's having the greatest presidency of the twenty first century.
I think we are in the midst I hope some
of you take the time to wake up and smile
and be grateful for what we are all experiencing right now,
because I think it's about as good as it gets.
Here is a montage put together of Democrats and left
wing media giving Trump credit for the Gaza deal.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
This has cut seven. This was very much a peacemaker's speech.
It's a terrific day for the hostage families.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's a terrific day for President Trump for our national interests.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Do you give him credit for this?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Certainly?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, this is an incredible accomplishment, an incredible novel.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
President Trump deserves a lot of credit for bringing the
parties together.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
He should get a lot of credit.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean, this was his deal. He worked this out. Listen,
he got the deal across the finish line. There's no question.
Seem sort of possible now in a way that they
didn't necessarily before. A better future ahead. That's what today represented.
It was so so powerful and unbelievably emotional. We would
not be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, let me give you an idea of who was
saying all of that. That's the Washington Post. David Ignacious, historian,
John Meacham, Representative Adam Smith, Democrat from Washington, former Secretary
of Defense Leon Panetta, Senator Mark Kelly, current Democrat from Arizona,
Jim Scutto, I'm not sure how you pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Shooto, I don't watch a lot. I also went to
my high school, like Fauci. Did I know this? Because
these mans get big, get big request to come back
and speak at Regis. But yours truly on the first
or second largest radio platform whatever in America. Not a
lot of love from the high school. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
MSNBC's David Noriega, Ted Deutsch, Democrat from Florida, and Arab
Israeli negotiator Aaron David. Also Stephen Colbert even said cut nine.
Donald Trump did something good. Had to make a joke
about it, but cut nine Today thanks to Trump's newly
(09:13):
broken ceasefire and Gaza, all living Israeli.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hostages and almost two thousand.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Kaliston in prisoners have been released.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Okay, it's important credit where credit is due. Donald Trump
did something good.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Are we still canceled? Sure? I tried. I tried, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Jimmy Kimmel even said good work. Now they got to
make jokes on the backside, but they're actually giving President
Trump credit This is how successful Trump has suddenly become.
He has united Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert in praise.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Cut eight.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
What a day for Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
You know what, He finally did something positive today and
I want to give him credit for it, because I
know he's not the type to take credit for himself.
Trumpes in Israel and Egypt today is to celebrate a
ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. All twenty Israeli hostages are home.
After seven hundred and thirty a days, almost two thousand
(10:17):
Palestinian prisoners and katies have been released. And while we're
only in the first phase of what will undoubtedly be
a long and tricky process, the fact is the bombing
has stopped, the hostages have been released, and Trump deserves
some of the praise for that. And so I know
it sounds crazy to say, but good work on that one,
President Trump. Now maybe you can not invade Portland.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Just an idea, Okay, like this is I understand, I
got to slap him on the back and make a
joke or whatever. But the fact that Colbert, Kimmel, CNN,
and MSNBC are all lining up for much of their
day buck and having to say, President Trump, get a
good job. I do wonder what their moron audiences are
(10:58):
thinking here. You and I are not surprised this happened,
but this is what we voted for.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We were right. I would also add that they're limiting
the praise to getting the hostages back, but the more
comprehensive deal here. There's never been anything like this in
Medi's peace negotiations, involving Hamas, involving the future of the
state of Israel. I mean this, this is enormous as
(11:24):
a framework for the Middle East going forward. And they're
not saying that because Clay. It's one thing to point out, Okay, fine,
he got the hostages back. We all have to admit
that's good. I would also note who was it. I
couldn't I can't remember, but somebody said two thousand Palestinian prisoners.
Those are detainees, they're terror in New York, that's a
different The New York Times called it a hostage trade,
(11:46):
as if the criminals that were under you know, Awak
and Key, were the same as the hostages that were kidnapped.
So I just want to note that on the one side, Pep,
you have civilians who were kidnapped at gunpoint for no
reason other than the barbarism and hatred of Hamas. And
on the other side, you have people who were breaking
(12:07):
the Geneva Convention in every way imaginable, fighting as a
non established military, killing civilians, and all of the things
that you could point to anyway. But they are trying
to limit this to the hostages coming back, and they're
not willing to say to their audience, Clay. Even in
these clips, for the most part, some of the more
(12:27):
news people are alluding to this. Aaron David Miller is
actually a sharp guy. I know him from years back,
and he knows the region well. There are people out
there who are lifetime policy wonks who are saying that
part of it is a huge breakthrough too, and that's
something they won't say on Kimmel's show. They won't say
(12:49):
that Donald Trump not only succeeded as president in getting
these hostages back, but Clay, he has succeeded more on
mid EA's peace than Obama than by then Bush, then Clinton,
then Reagan, then go back, Dan Carter, keep going back.
That they will not say, let me ask you this,
(13:12):
and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm curious what your answer is we can talk about
it when we come back as we're coming up against
a break. How much do you think the average American
cares or is paying attention to what's going on right
now in the Middle East? In other words, does this
move Donald Trump's approval rating in the United States in
any kind of appreciable way, or people like you and
(13:34):
me and all of our listeners that are engaged on
a day to day basis in the news are aware
of this. But is this resonating with your average dad
or mom sitting in a car line picking up kids
at school, like, is this something that matters?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I really don't think so for the most part. I
think for the I think for the Jewish American community,
especially because we had Carol Markowitz on yesterday. She has
family in Israel, she has family that are in the
IDF right, So that is very noteworthy for people that
feel a direct connection to what's going on over there.
(14:09):
But day to day over here, this will be swept
up in the broader news cycle very quickly. And I
think there's nothing wrong with leaving the diplomacy to the diplomat, well,
in this case, to Donald Trump, the diplomat in chief,
and moving back to issues here on the home front.
You know that Trump has helped clean that mess up
(14:30):
or bring that mess to an end. Let's get our
focus back here at home. I mean, there's no need
for us to have a split focus. I think that
takes away from any of the initiatives, and they're not
the stuff with Portland and Chicago and the border and
trade deals with China. That's all still underway too. This
is a big news story more than it is a
big main Street story. I think that's fair good analysis.
(14:55):
Now we've got Zolensky coming to the White House on Friday.
Within that construct, what is MSNBC and CNN going to
say if Trump actually brings peace between Ukraine and Russia too?
Remember that scene in Indiana Jones and the Raiders of
the Lost Arc when they owe the answer is going
to be one hundred percent for me.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But yes, I'm not forgetting any of those scenes. It
will it will be like that at MSNBC. If Trump
ends the Russia Ukraine war, they will just melt in
real like there won't be anything left. They will spontaneously combust.
Total protonic reversal. I mean, it'll be a total I
don't know what they'll do over there. All right, we'll
come back into this year, I say, Raiders of the
(15:35):
Lost Ark. Oh yeah, well they we'll get the arc.
Well we have double we have double I was thinking
when they drink from the chalice at the end and
double the other one. Yeah, there's actually double ones.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, I mean it will be a Lawrence O'donalds show
might be more like that, and whatever other shows are on,
like Chris Hayes might be more like the Raiders of
the Lost Arc. But people will melt or evaporate in
real time if Trump actually does the peace deal with
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Not only did Trump have a huge win yesterday, as
did really the whole Middle East and the world stipolized world,
but there are some people who have some bets that
they made who should pay up. I would think one
in particular over at the view Miss Elissa Farah, formerly
of the Trump White House, I might add first term
(17:28):
here it turns out that she made a promise, and
I think she should be kept with that promise. Clay,
listen to this. This is what you said on the air.
I don't know a couple of years ago.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
If he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I
will wear a Maga hat for one day on the
show and say thank you for doing it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
She'll number right off my head.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
You have to be able to cheer for wins when
they happen and then call out relentlessly the wrong dull.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I gotta say, a deal is a deal, A promise
is a promise, A bet is a bet. Like, however
you want to put this, I don't clay if you
or I made a promise to this audience about wearing
a half during the shit joh, we're wearing that hat.
So if you has to pay up here totally.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
If I had said, if Joe Biden gets the hostages back,
I'll wear a Biden hat, this is last December, to
be clear. But yeah, yeah, last December. She said it
after Trump was elected, but before he had taken office.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
This is no brainer. A BET's a bet. She should
She's pay up.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Like when buck Island went underwater, you, even though you
had to get a snorkel, you took me to a
fancied dinner and we had a great stage.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I did true. I owe Jesse Kelly a red lobster outing.
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All right, welcome back into clay An Buck Things getting spicy.
We mentioned the View a little bit of a back
and forth with the wife of RFK Junior and Sunny
hostin the most hostile member of the View on all things.
I might just add she's just the most hostile person
(19:54):
on that show in general. But she was hostile with
Cheryl Hines. Is her name, right? I know her from
the Larry David Show. Am I right? That's her name?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Team yeah, making sure she's an actress. She's married to
RFK Junior, so they they had a bit of a
tet tet and we shall discuss that coming up here. Also,
the I think it's the biggest liberal podcast now Pivot.
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are the Who is on the Pivot pod? Like, I
don't know?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Uh it is?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I forget her name? And doctor or Professor Galloway from
n YU Karris is it? Kara Swisher? Is Sara Swisher?
That's right? Kara Swisher, and she argued with me about
masks once online. That's all I remember from her. And
she was wrong and I was right. So apparently Buck
is very smart and she should say I'm sorry that
I was so wrong. But Scott Galloway, he actually said
(20:58):
some very good things on some topics I will say,
but he weighed in we're going to get to his
analysis clay of possible. He talked about a possible Kamala run.
I think you'll be pleased to know that this is
something that the Libs are discussing now as a as
a thing that may happen. I want to hold everybody
in suspense over this one though. Well. Also did you
(21:21):
see and I love this?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Kamala wrote, I remember we had fun with this that
Gavin Newsom texted or out hiking, will call you back
when she announced that she was running and then never
actually called him back, which was yes, I never called
her back.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I ghosted the Democrat presidential candidate.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
For a hire campaign. Yes, evidently did you see this?
This follow up to that after she wrote about it
in uh, this is amazing this actually Kamla. I give
Kamala credit this Unlike Alyssa Farr Griffin like, I'll call
balls and strikes here.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
This is actually funny.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I thought it was funny that Gavin NewU some never
called her back because he said he was out hiking.
Gavin Newsom was upset that she wrote about that in
the book, and he texted, this is the latest version
of this book. He texted Kamala and said, well, you know,
I did post on social media and endorsement for you,
and you didn't include that in the book. And Kamala
Harris texted him back on book tour, will text We'll
(22:22):
call you back.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So he finally.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Texted her after a year of not commenting, like, hey,
with the link, I did endorse you on social media.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
This should have been in the book.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And Kamala Harris texted him back on book tour, will
get back to you. So my point on this is, uh,
they are really kind of going at it in a
very frenomy way that suggests that they are aware of
being opponents in the twenty twenty eight election. And I
(22:55):
don't think there's a law of lost here. You know this,
sometimes politicians can go at it in public and actually
like each other privately. In other words, it's a little
bit of a public show. I don't think Kamala and
Gavin Newsom like each other at all, and I think
they want the same thing in twenty eight Yes, I
think they both want to run.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Day before we got Eric Trump come up a little
bit friend of the show. Some of the president, entrepreneur,
business really business leader, I mean entrepreneur, also a whole
bunch of things. So we'll talk to him about news
of the day, his father's legacy, some of the things
he's working on. But this Letitia James situation, Clay, I
(23:35):
think is quite interesting. I read the New York Times
most recent large piece on this story. They wrote on it,
and it is really a masterclass in doing everything possible
to try to shift the playing field the narrative in
(23:56):
favor of in this case, the defendant le tissue James right.
It's all oh, I mean, the storytelling, it's it's really masterful.
You should go, Clay, if you haven't seen this most
recent one. It's like there was a small, modest colonial
house on a street, the flutter of birds in the background,
children playing at a nearby seesaw, and somehow this is
(24:20):
at the center of a political you know, It's like
everything is fine.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's you know, this is just in the this is
like Main Street America.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And then the mean Republicans come along. You can almost
hear the theme music becoming angry and dissonant. But let'ssue
James has got an issue here, and that is she
not only signed. And this is all alleged, of course,
right because this is now before a court and she
(24:50):
has been indicted. But the simple facts are she bought
a home and got preferential treatment on the loan for
that home because she indicated that it would be an
invent property. I own a bunch of investment properties, so
I've been through this process. Yes, she said it was
a second residence, right, she did not say it was
an investment property. Wait, that is I gotta go back,
(25:14):
and I think I think the way she said it
was primary. But the so let's writ it down. She
said it was a second home for her.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think she said it was a she was not
going to be renting it out because when you rent
out homes, you know this because you've bought a bunch
of rentals. When you're renting out a home, the down
payments are higher and the rates you typically have to
pay are higher when you say it is a primary
or secondary home. Because you are the occupier, you then
(25:48):
are able to get a preparential rate.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, so here you go. This is the indictment says
that while miss James, I got this mixed up in
my head, Miss James indicated to her mortgage broker that
she expected to use the house as a second home.
She had instead used it as a rental property, a
rental investment property, renting the property to a family. Now
here's where it gets interesting, or here's what they're saying.
(26:14):
What she really did is not rent it and not
use it. And this is where the thing gets a
little bit more confusing. She didn't use it as a
second home. She moved family members of hers into the
home who then paid either no rent or so little
rent as to be essentially deminimous. I mean, it doesn't
(26:35):
so she got the home as her home because basically
then she's on the hook for both mortgages her current
home that she lives in and the secondary home. If
she says it's a second house for her, if it's
going to be something that she rents out, that changes
the equation for the kind of mortgage you get. Sorry, So, yes,
(26:58):
that is an important point of clarification. But what makes
this more complicated is that she didn't rent it out,
and she didn't use it as a second home. She
just used it for nieces of hers to go and
live in. Now, the interesting part of this is that,
according to a few reports that have come out these
(27:19):
nieces or one in particular, that one of the nieces
is a convicted felon. Now that or and I think
is wanted also on an additional charges in another state.
That creates problems for you in the mortgage process or
in the getting a loan and getting so it seems
(27:40):
like she may have falsified her loan application in order
to help a felon relative get a home that that
relative would not have easily been able to get a
mortgage for. And this is where the preferential loan amount,
and they think it's about eighteen thousand dollars eighteen nine
hundred comes in. Okay, let me give you my defense
(28:03):
attorney hat here all of those facts. If I am
her defense attorney in a Northern Virginia courtroom, here's what
I am going to say about this. And again I'm
not saying that this is my argument, I'm saying, pretend
you're a jury and I am defending Letitia James, and
pretend the jury is made up seventy percent of Trump haters,
(28:26):
thirty percent maybe of Trump voters. That might not even
be an exaggeration, but let's say it's seventy thirty. In
other words, you know there's twelve jurors. Let's say eight
of them are Kamala voters and four of them are
Trump voters. Just to roughly kind of lay it out there,
do you think twelve jurors are going to convict if
her defense buck, which I think it would be. Is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
When I bought this house, I intended to use it
as a secondary residence to get away from the stress
of New York City. You Virginians know how great of
an area in Norfolk is, how.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Amazing it is to be able to get away.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Then I had some nieces and family members who were
destitute and out on the street, and I decided, because
I had comparatively more, that I allowed them to move in.
I wasn't ever planning this, but I just wanted to
extend the hand as an aunt to family members that
needed help. And now they're trying to prosecute me for this.
(29:26):
If I could go back and redo the mortgage, I
would change it to be more accurate. But life happens
and we adjusted on the fly. This is not intentional.
They're coming after me because of my politics. Would eight
Kamala voters vote to convict if that is her defense?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
No, I think that she's Look, she's got Abby Lowell
as a defense attorney. I don't think he's even My
guess is he's probably not even gonna charge her. He's
the kind of lawyer who usually gets correct mid to
high six figure retainer and gets paid one thousand dollars
an hour. That's what a white collar defense attorne, only
a top one. I've known some of them in New York.
I have a friend who did this. That's what they make,
(30:04):
you know. They say, you know, you got to give
me a quarter of a million or a half a
million dollar retainer and then one thousand dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So because criminal defense clients, as you may well understand,
are not great about paying bills, so usually you're like,
you better give me a big retainer because I'm not
going to be trying to track you down if you
get convicted.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
To get paid. So that's the way that works. Doing
white collar defense, you know, stock stuff frauds, things like that,
you know, healthcare fraud. You generally are dealing with clientele
that have some assets, especially on the Wall Street side
of things with insider trading. So that's where the high
dollar white collar defense attorney's come into play. Okay, so
she's got top tier legal defense. You raise a very
(30:44):
good point about the comp I've thought that all along. Look,
we've told everybody don't expect a conviction here. Okay, that
doesn't mean it won't happen, and we're not trying to.
I can't make a judgment one or the other. I'm
not on this jury. I don't know. But it's not
a slam dunk. And to play point about that, it's
a grand niece, by the way. Yeah, here though is
the Here is the additional component of this. The reports
(31:07):
that are out that her grand niece has been living
rent free with her children there, and there are reports
that she the grand niece is a fugitive from North
Carolina and has violated probation and still has a bench
warrant out for her. That's what the reporting is as
I have seen it, as of this morning. So the
(31:30):
one thing that's you know, you're right, it's gonna be.
I was trying to help my family. You know, it
was a rental property. I just gave it to them gratis.
But then, of course that undermines the risk factors that
go into the loan process. But still there might be
a bit of a tugging on the heartstrings there. But
the fleeing fugitive thing maybe a little That may be
a little bit of also a problem just because you're
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the attorney general for the state of New York and
people might not want to cut you as much slack for,
you know, playing around the edge here a bit when
you're doing this for somebody that's also a convicted felon
or might be a convicted felon. Let me also give
you a counter argument. I just gave you what I
think the defense attorney case argument partly will be. I
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believe this house, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Crew.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I believe it was one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars.
That is the Norfolk. And I know I sometimes screw
up the pronunciation. There is it nor I don't I
want to avoid the curseword, but I feel like I'm
supposed to pronounce it like it's a curseword at the end, right,
nor I'm not even gonna say it because I get
in trouble. So you guys in in that area, let
(32:40):
me know how I'm supposed to pronounce it. But how
many people do you think buy a secondary home in
this neighborhood? I looked it up where a house costs
one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. In other words,
most people who buy second homes, it's your wealthy and
you are getting away from wherever.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You may live. You go to a lake, you go
to a beach, you go.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
To the mountains, and you're paying a decent amount of
money for that second home. I think the reality is
she bought this home intending for these grand nieces or
whatever they are relation to her to be able to
live there. I think she actually intentionally lied. So I
(33:26):
think the challenge on this is if you're buying a
second home and you are Letitia James, and I think
she has like a six hundred thousand dollars seven hundred
thousand dollars place in the New York City area. Based
on looking at the images of this house, It's not
like she bought a farm in a rural.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Area where it's different.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
This is like not that nice of a neighborhood in
that this area of Virginia. I think she bought it
intending to put her family members in this home. So
I think she did lie. Now she may defend herself
by saying I thought I was gonna go kick it
in virgin and sit on the porch and sip, you know,
sip drinks on this.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
He's going to claim that it was a change. It
was a change in status that occurred after the loan,
and that that's the best defense she has.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
What I'm saying is if you actually look at the facts,
if she had bought some riverfront property that's beautiful view,
or she had bought some farm, why.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Would she buy this as a second As a second property.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Most people don't buy second properties my point on this,
that are infinitely worse than their primary property. You don't
want to go to vacation or at least not a
different kind of place, right Like, most people aren't buying
second homes to go live in a home that's far
worse than the home that they live in now. Most
people don't buy second homes. They're not wealthy enough to
do it, understood, But this was not She was buying
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this for her family.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I think she intentionally lied.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now I think she'll defend herself by saying, oh, I
didn't know my family was going to end up in
these dire straits here. But I think the facts actually
don't support that argument. Well, this is like the old
man rule that I've or at least for myself, which is,
if I'm going to travel somewhere for like leisure, the
bed has to be about as comfortable as my current
bed or else.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't want to go like I used to do.
I used to rough it, man. I used to stay
and you know, I would go to like when I
was a college kid. I would stay in places where
I mean, heck, I stayed in places where I wasn't
even sure my stuff was going to be there the
next morning when I woke up, right, I mean, that
was just the reality of it. Now that I'm an
old man, I'm like, what, what's the what's the thread count?
(35:29):
Is it quiet? Will they will they leave me? Leave
me alone until at least ten am? Like I am
very different rules now for vacation, Well, I will just
point out, and all of you hikers out there are
going to get angry at me. The wilderness has houses
and hotels near it. I don't mind. Like that's great,
Clay's going after you campers out there. Clay is a city.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Is a city, kid, not even like I'm fine, Like
I'll go on a hike, I will go, go canoeing,
I will go. I'm not really that excited about putting
up a tent and sleeping on the ground.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Now, I we are. We are very sympatico on this one.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And I grew up doing that because my dad liked
to do it and I did not like sleeping on
the ground.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I like beds. I like beds.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I like refrigerators. Air has air conditioning. Every wilderness near it,
not necessarily in itself. There's always a place to sleep
where you can still experience the wild.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And so I am a.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Let's go, let's experience the wild, but then let's return
to a bed. You know, humanity has evolved so that
we do not have to sleep on the floors.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And I think we we both like, we both like glamping,
and about half of our audience right now is pulling
our man cards. So I think I think that just happened.
I think we both were on temporary man card restriction
here on the show Clay because we see out of
eye on this one. I am not I don't want
to go anywhere where people are like you might get
(36:58):
eaten by the wildlife too bad, you know you're visiting them.
It's like, I'm I'm not into that. I want to
at least be able to get in my car and leave.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
In fact, we had dinner with your dad recently and
you and your brother were talking about being abandoned in
the in the wilds of Alaska.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Will have on a trip. The grizzly bears all around us,
and they're like, we may not be able to get
you guys out. You might have to sleep here. We
had nothing. We were just going to sleep on the
river bank overnight because we got dropped in by helicopter
and the helicopter couldn't retrieve us and we were freezing
and had no food. That was a quote vacation, okay,
ten years ago, that was my vacation. I hope you
(37:36):
don't eaten by bears in the middle of the night. Boys.
My dad, by the way, loves that stuff. He's like,
you never feel is alive because when you think you're
gonna lose the battle with mother nature, like he loves
that stuff. I have no interest.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Hikers and campers are right now just furiously.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
From there.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We're gonna get jalled up on these emails and talk backs,
but we just have it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
We'll be safe.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
We'll be safe and warm while you guys are out
on the trail. That's exactly right. I mean some of
you still want to sleep in caves. That's not my thing,
you know, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Look it's a great cave, it's try. There might be
a bear in there. I'll just stay at a hotel.
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Speaker 2 (39:24):
Appreciate all of.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You hanging out with us as we are rolling through
breaking down all of the news of the day. And
we are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He's
got a brand new book out today. It's called Under Siege.
It is burning up the bestseller ranks. I think I
saw it posted that it is the number one release
on Amazon today, which is a super impressive accomplishment already,
(39:47):
and we'll get into the book in a minute, Eric,
We appreciate you coming on with us having said that
we'll get to the book, but are you still kind
of processing how incredible what yesterday was like in the
Middle East and your dad having the thirty six hours
that he had where even as we started off the
show MSNBC, CNN, Heck, Colbert and Kimmel came out and said, hey,
(40:12):
he did something really impressive. You know when MSNBC, CNN
and the late night hosts are praising you that your
dad must have really accomplished something. What was that like
for you to watch?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Well, guys, a year ago he was literally serving French
fries in McDonald's and now he's just serve at least
know peace. So literally it was exactly a year ago
yesterday he was doing the French fribrantine and riding around
in a garbage truck, and you know, he just solves
Middle East for peace. And I think the most impressive
part to me. Listen, you look at it almost at
every conflict around the world, whether it's you know, World
War One, World War two, Vietnam, Korea, right, you had
(40:45):
kind of a winner, and you had a losure of
those wars as predetermined and here it actually feels like
everybody won, right. I mean, you have you have people
on both sides of the conflict coming out and thanking
him and thanking him profusely for ending the madness, ending
the death and destruction, and then you have an entire
world that's kind of coalesced around this victory. And I
just think that's a really beautiful thing and one of
(41:05):
those things that only he could could pull off.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
And I'm proud. I'm proud of him as a son.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I mean, listen, you know we're gonna talk about the
siege at some point, you know today. But you know,
everything that we've we've gone through, everything that they tried
to do to destroy us, guys, it all became worth
it for me yesterday, right. I Mean there are times
when you couldn't quite you know, it couldn't couldn't quite
get there, right?
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Was it worth it?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Was it not?
Speaker 5 (41:29):
It was brutal. They tried to destroy your life.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
And then you see a man up there with the
entire world, respecting America. You know, the death and destruction
and evilness has ended. Conflicts all over the world are ending,
you know, pieces being brought. You know, some son will
go back to their mother tonight, who would have otherwise
not gone back. She would have been finding out that
that person was dead had it not been for his actions.
(41:53):
And I think that makes this all worth it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
The book is under siege, My families fight to save
our nation, where with Eric Trump now talking about it,
and Eric, I have a longtime law enforcement friend who,
as you, he's a big Trump supporter. And as the
whole situation was playing out, the effort to use unprecedented
law fair not just against your dad, as you have
(42:18):
pointed out before, against the Trump organization, against Trump family members,
against all of you, really anyone named Trump became a target.
As you're going through that, he kept saying, a normal
and by this I just mean an every day and
everyday person would be broken by one federal indictment, meaning
oh my gosh, how will I ever be able to
(42:39):
fight this? And and well, you know what is going
to do my reputation? Your dad and your family were
going through four nonsense criminal indictments and some of the
civil stuff that you were having to deal with, including
from Leticia James, which we were just discussing her situation.
What was that like day in and day out? Did
it just feel surreal. Did it feel like your dad
(42:59):
would prepared for it and was able to be a
happy warrior through the whole thing, I mean, bring us
into that.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, well, well listen, you know, honestly I was. I
was a tip of the spear with that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
My father had certain constitutional protections that kept a lot
of the subpoenas away from him, right, and so guess
what they did.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
You know, it's thirty three years old. He sat me down.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
He goes, Honey, I want you to run the company.
I want you know you're you're the guy. You love
real estate, you love building, you love everything we do.
You've built so many of our projects, you run everything,
you run our teams. I want you to carry this
forward because obviously I'm going to watch Itton DC And
I said, no problem. And guys, I thought I was
gonna have this great time, you know again, building hotels,
running great organization. I never would have thought that ninety
nine percent of my time for a period of four years,
(43:38):
really a period of eight years, was going to be,
you know, dealing with subpoenas. I became the most subpoenive
person in American history simply because I was the conduit
to everything that he had ever built, because I was
the guy running the organization that had you know, Trump
on the front door. And so they came after us mercilessly,
and thank god, we had two things. We had a
loud voice, and we had enough zeros on the back
of our name that we could literally spent him. And guys,
(44:01):
I've said this plant. We've spent about four million, four
hundred million dollars fighting off the lunatics. And this is
the dirty dossier's this is the made up Russia collusion.
I was the guy that got the call from the
FBI saying, I hear you have secret servers in the
basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. We
didn't have servers in the basement of Trump Tower. It
was all a lie. It was all made up by
Hillary Clinton. It was all made up by Barack Obama.
(44:24):
We didn't have damn servers. But they wanted to put
us under siege, right They needed a reason. You know,
they wanted their October surprise obviously to get you know,
Hillary three more votes. But then when she failed so
miserably against you know, a bunch of ragtag individuals who
didn't know a damn thing about politics.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I e.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Our family. She needed a reason to justify her loss.
Hence the reason they made this up. And they wanted
to have this. Oh, you know, the shadow loom over
my father the entire time. They wanted the shadow government
to try and take him down at every single step
of the way. And then they leaked his tax returns.
I mean, not only did they leak my father's tax returns,
every tax return he had, this is the I R s.
They leaked all my tax returns. They leaked on's tax returns,
(45:04):
the entire family, you know. Then they leaked all the
tax returns of all the employees, all our corporate employees,
you know. Then they silenced us, They took us off
on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. Then they gag ordered
us a lot of times. You'd see me speaking on
the front steps of the you know, of the courthouses
around the country. Why because some of those cases I
wasn't gag ordered in, but my father was, And so
I had to be the person to go out and
(45:25):
talk about, you know, the judge's daughter who you know
apparently worked for the you know, Democratic Party and is
one of the biggest you know, digital media people in
New York State while her father is presiding over a
trial against my father, right, and then they take him
off the ballot of Maine, they take him out the
ballot of Colorado. They do everything they can, they do,
They call up every bank and they try and get
(45:45):
us deep platform de banked. I mean, guys, this was
a non stop siege against our family. But it wasn't
just against our family. It was against the Republican Party.
It was against you guys, it was against everybody, everybody
who wanted free speech. They tried, they tried to hold
all of us down. They tried to take away our voice.
They wanted to destroy the greatest political movement, you know,
ever made. And it's it's really amazing that we can
(46:07):
be sitting here exactly one year later, one year after
those court trials and everything else, having been vindicated in
all of them, seeing what's happening to Letitia, seeing Letitia's
case get thrown out literally five zero by the appellate court,
seeing Middle East peacing, you know, inflation go down to nothing,
energy prices go down to nothing. You know, I mean,
(46:28):
what like, what vindication this is after everything that we've been.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Through and I just wanted to ask as a follow up, Eric,
it's amazing to me to see what your dad has
gone through and just observing him in public. Also, we've
play and I've been fortunate to spend a fair amount
of time with him in interviews and you know one
or you know, in a person a person face to
face setting, your dad. I have never seen him look
(46:54):
scared once. And this is somebody who was shot in
the ear and somebody else tried to shoot soon after.
And that is it almost seems superhuman to a lot
of us observing and I truly mean.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
That he is superhuman. But the guys, this guy I've
known my entire life. I mean, he's always been this
energizer bunny, you know, on steroids, wearing a red tie,
right and a dark shuit.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
That's always been my father.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Everything that everything that he's ever wanted to do is
always you know, he's always charged and it's his only focus.
He becomes people don't realize. He becomes very myopically focused
on whatever he wants to do. If it's building the
greatest building, he becomes myoptically focused on. If it's building
a great course, he becomes myopically focused on his real
estate career. If it was the Apprentice, he becomes myoptically
focused on it. Well, he did the same thing with politics.
(47:38):
I mean, he just did this this turn and just
dedicated his entire life to politics and winning a race.
He became myopically focused on it and never I mean,
I can't tell you how many people have lost money
betting against Donald Trump. You know, don't don't bet against
the guy, because he's gonna beat you every single time.
And you know, he became myoptally focused when he came
to the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
Peace.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
I mean, that's the one thing that he always wanted
to achieve, and that was probably the gratest achievement of all.
It's something that everybody was laughing at. This will never happen.
These societies hate each other, they've been warring for thousands
of years. They'll never come together. And he goes, no,
I want, I want peace in the Middle East. I
want the Abraham Accords. I want I want people to
be kind of, you know, prosperous. But he does not
back down, he does not mince words. He's politically incorrect,
(48:17):
and frankly, it's what people adored about him. I mean,
you'd watch those primary debates guys in twenty you know,
in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, you know, and and all
those all those soundbites were rehearsed, right. I mean, you know,
Hillary Clinton well is very lucky that Donald Trump isn't
running the legal system of the United States.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
He's throwing out these ingers, yeah, because you'd be in
jail for the rest of your life, right, And he's
doing it off the cuff. And and people like somebody
who was finally real, somebody who wasn't PC, somebody who
was willing to go out there and fight like hell,
and somebody who was willing to work hard, because you
just don't have that in politics. I mean, most of
the politicians are lazy, their canned, they're they're scripted, they're
they're inauthentic, and and and they lose, They lose Americans.
(48:58):
And that's why, you know, there was never any excitement
in politics before my father came into the race. No
one was excited about Jem Bush. No one gave a
damn about Jet Bush. And now you watch these rallies
where thirty fifty thousand people show up to these rallies.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
People are excited.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
And by the way, a lot of those people are
young kids, who are you engaged in kind of the
democratic process for the first time.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
It's a beautiful thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
We're talking to Eric Trump. The book is under Siege,
My Family's Fight to save our Nation. It's available everywhere. Eric,
you just talked about your dad and his unique sensibilities
when it comes to politics. You're a builder, You're a
business person. So is Jared Kushner, so is Steve Whitcoff.
Obviously your dad. How much do you think being a
(49:41):
business guy made it possible to get a deal as
opposed to a straight politics guy in the Middle East?
I love this because deal makers look at solutions or
situations and just try to get to yes, whereas it
feels like a lot of politicians get bogged down in
things that don't matter. How much do you think business
(50:02):
and deal making really was the foundation of what Jared,
what Steve and what your dad were able to do.
And how much do you see that in your own
world from a business perspective, as looking at politics as
a series of deals as opposed to getting bogged down
in sometimes these intractable issues.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
By the way, it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
I'm not sure if I've ever gotten asked, but it's
one hundred percent being a deal maker. I mean, listen,
Obama ran on what hope, right, I like hope. Hope
doesn't get you anywhere in business. You know what I
hope gets you. I hope gets you bankrupt. You do
you don't hope for something, you go out and you
effectually change, right. And and that's what Jared did so great,
That's what wa cough im in Steve Wickoff.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I am my closest friends. I love him to death, but.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I mean these you know, and and guys like me, right,
I'm out of business if we don't you know, if
we don't get results, you don't get things across the
finish line, you are out of business, right like that,
That's what business is about, making the deal right, getting
things accomplished, getting things done. Whereas black Obama was about hope.
Hope isn't a strategy. You know, results are a strategy.
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And that's what my father demands. He demands results. Everything
he does, every word he says, is about getting a
result right, you know, and and that's a calculated result.
Everything he does, every press conference, every meeting, every every
call he makes, every time he pushes his cabinet, everything
he does, every person that he appoints. It's about getting results.
(51:28):
And that's what motivates my father, and that's what motivates
people in the business world. And so I think that's
why all of a sudden you had this kind of
you know, ragtag group of people once again, you know,
who didn't know anything about politics. You know, it might
not have even known that much about Middle East piece,
but was able to go in there, build relationships, negotiate well,
get everybody to a table, and actually effectuate change versus
(51:49):
you know, these career bureaucrats who talk about how how
much they know about foreign policy and yet they're incapable
of getting anything done. I mean, how how many more
times do you do you have to hear? Do you
remember we're in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Well, Donald Trump
does not know anything about foreign policy. It's like, yeah,
they didn't know anything about foreign policy either, you know,
and guess what, it's a really smart guy who could
figure it out in about three and a half seconds,
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bring people to the table, and actually get something accomplished.
And you know, it always makes me so happy when
I see him just run circles around these people who
claim to know something about foreign policy, yet they haven't
progressed a ball in the last you know, three decades.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Well, it's been amazing to see and especially to watch
a lot of your dad's critics eat a hefty dose
of humble pie because of the huge win in the
Middle East. So congrats to you, Congrats to your family
and to the President. I have one last one for you, Eric.
You and I are rough with the same age plays
a little bit older, but we grew up with the
(52:45):
same movies, you and I, Eric, and your book is
Under Siege, My Famili's Fight to Save Our Nation, which
is already number one. Everyone should go get a copy
of it. Does this Stephen Sagall, by the way, a
vocal Trump supporter, Does Stephen sagalls Under Siege make your
top ten Action Movies All Time list?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
Yeah? By one hundred percent?
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Right, I mean Steven's is always like a legend for us, right,
as you know, as was John Claude Bandamas you remember
very well. I mean my father's my father and I
used to watch literally blood Sport every single weekend.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
I mean, we love, we love that movie.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
We we watched that too. You know, it's Steven Miller's
favorite movie. He told us that on the show Number
one all time.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Well, fuck you remember the Kumte and everything, right, we
love that. Under Siege, I mean, how can you not?
Speaker 4 (53:27):
You know, you you add you had you know, Gary
Busey of all things. Gary Busey ended up being on
The Apprentice with us for for years. Steven Sagall. He was,
you know, tossing people around the Missouri remember.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
The battleship, and you know it was it was. It
was a great movie.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
But no, never, never did I think that would come
into a little, you know, fashion in my life. I mean,
I listen to anybody roughly our age. I'm forty one, anybody
roughly our agent's scene under siege. But they literally, guys,
they put us under siege. You know, they tried to
destroy us. They they tried to do everything they could
to cut us off, to silence our voice, to to
bankrupt us, to deprive us, to toize the media, to
(54:01):
weaponize the government, to weaponize the DOJ, to weaponize every right,
to make up dirty ossier's, to impeach him, to go
after you know, I mean his supreme court justices, his
inner circle, his family, to try and screw up his marriage,
to try and screw up his family, to try and
steal his businesses from him. That is the definition of
a siege. And the good news is and then, by
(54:22):
the way, and they did that to all of America, right.
They tried to go after you know, Americans and mainly
conservatives vis a vis the I. R. S. They went
after their churches, they went after their religious institutions, they
went after their children. They taught them revision is history.
They tried to you know, confuse their gender identities. This
is the siege that they put this country through. And
we won the siege, guys.
Speaker 5 (54:42):
We wanted.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
We won every aspect of it, based on the fact
that we had the most resounding victory in American political history,
winning the popular vote, winning every swing state, having every
state in the country attacked to the right. And so, guys,
they put us all under siege, and we won the
greatest political movement in the history of this country.
Speaker 5 (55:00):
One.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
And so, you know, the book, as ugly as some
of the topics are in there, you know, actually is
beautiful because you can beat the mainstream media, and you
can beat the weaponization of government, and we can win
as a collective Americans who love this country and love God,
and love our constitution and love our flag. And that's
exactly what we did together.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Heymen, Book under Siege. Encourage you guys to go check
it out. Appreciate the time Eric look forward acrossing paths
down the road.
Speaker 5 (55:27):
Guys, thanks so much for having me.
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
It is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments
alongside of his administration, and I never would have believed
the day, but as I look down at the roster,
we have praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel,
Joe Scarborough, and an incredible montage our team put together
(01:03):
of all different sorts of Democrats seeing Donald Trump's praises.
I think this is frankly remarkable, and I think it
deserves all of the public acclamation. We will run through
some of those in a moment, but I just wanted
to hit you with this buck. In the past twenty
(01:26):
four hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule. Remember, we went
from my cousin mid I was gonna say, my cousin Vinnie.
We went from weekend at Bernie's apologies to my cousin Vinnie,
great film Weekend at Bernie's presidency of Joe Biden. They
tried to run Weekend at Bernie's two where they would
hide him. He could only do events from like ten
(01:46):
to two, then they would hide him if they ever
did any press availabilities. They gave him note cards to
call on members of the press with pre screened questions.
Listen to what Trump has done just in the last
twenty four hours. He flew to Israel, spoke to the
press there in Israel, met with Israeli leaders, spoke to
(02:08):
the press again, met with families of the hostages, delivered
an hour long speech to the Kanesse that is basically
the Israeli Congress, did another interview, flew to Egypt, met
with the President of Egypt, spoke to the press again,
took photos and chatted individually with dozens of world leaders,
(02:30):
signed the historic Gaza Peace Deal, delivered another speech, met
privately with world leaders, flew back to the United States.
He touched ground publicly, walking across the grass of the
south lawn of the White House. I believe Buck at
three am one of the most extraordinary thirty six hours.
(02:50):
He took off at three pm, thirty six hours before
when all the way to the Middle East, did all
of those things, got back off the plane at three am,
and today is celebrating and awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica,
the Presidential Medal of Freedom for another public event.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
For those of you who travel.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Internationally, and I imagine a lot of you out there
have done this at some point in time, it is Buck,
you just did this. You just flew to Taiwan, and
you just came back. Traveling internationally is one of the
most draining things that you can do, skipping across twelve
hours of time zones, all these different things for anybody,
no matter their age. For a seventy nine year old
(03:38):
president who has to be at the top of his game,
delivering one of the most consequential and I think well
delivered addresses of his entire political career. We're talking about superhuman,
extraordinarily unbelievable levels of mental focus and energy to be
able to put all this together for anyone, whether you
(03:59):
were the CEO of a company, whether you're working in construction,
whether you're a twenty two year old listening to us
right now, that's an unbelievable thirty six hours of accomplishment.
And coming on the heels of Joe Biden, it is
even more extraordinary. I think what a thirty six hours
President Trump just put together.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's been fun just watching all of the Trump adversary
media having to find ways to package this for their audience. Overwhelmingly,
they've taken the you know, he's terrible on They say
a bunch of things, and then they go but I
have to say, this is pretty darn good, and I
(04:40):
don't think that there could be any more obvious. There
could be no more clear endorsement of the massive victory
here than even Trump's biggest detractors, at least in the media,
are having to say, yeah, I think this is a
pretty good one. Here's a great example. So Clay, You'll
remember when I did the show before this last election,
(05:02):
and there were a lot of things that were interesting
about that. One is I was like, you guys are
about to get absolutely smoked in this election, and the
audience did not boo. I think they knew that things
were not looking good for them at that point. It
was what late September, I think, before the election, so
maybe about a month ago. And the other thing was
I said to Bill Maher I think this was on camera,
(05:23):
but I definitely said it to him off camera. I said,
you know that he's really not going to destroy the
country and it's going to be fine, right, I mean,
you actually know that. And I swear he looked at
me and he said, I don't know that. I don't know.
I think he actually might destroy America. He seemed to
truly believe that. Well, Clay, here he is. This is
cut three, having to face reality play it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I always say this, you cannot ever deny success. You
just have to give your respect, even if it's not
your thing. Don't have the humility to give it up
for enormous success on any level. Trump not my choice.
Didn't vote for him, but so a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Of people did.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
And he's I can't deny the success. I can't either. Yeah,
and he's the president and he's the president.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's pretty much where any honest left of center person
in this country has to be. Right now, Clay, you
can't deny the success, guys, it's there. It's in front
of all of us.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
If Joe Biden had gotten all of the hostages out
of Gaza and delivered a sterling speech giving the virtues
of freedom and American leadership, and traveled and just run
through that thirty six hour stretch, he couldn't have done
any of it, Let's be clear. And that's why you
and me and most of you out there did not
(06:47):
vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. Kamala Harris could
not have done any of this, and she's twenty years
younger than President Trump. But if they had, I would
have come on and said, hey, you know what, this
is a good result. As I give credit. Bill Clinton
came out and said it, let's play this. I mean,
this is Trump is so successful. Now you and I
have and we're gonna see Trump's praises because we think
(07:10):
he's having the greatest presidency of the twenty first century.
I think we are in the midst I hope some
of you take the time to wake up and smile
and be grateful for what we are all experiencing right now,
because I think it's about as good as it gets.
Here is a montage put together of Democrats and left
wing media giving Trump credit for the Gaza deal.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
This has cut seven. This was very much a peacemaker's speech.
It's a terrific day for the hostage families.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's a terrific day for President Trump for our national interests.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Do you give him credit for this?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Certainly?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, this is an incredible accomplishment, an incredible novel.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
President Trump deserves a lot of credit for bringing the
parties together.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
He should get a lot of credit.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean, this was his deal. He worked this out. Listen,
he got the deal across the finish line. There's no question.
Seem sort of possible now in a way that they
didn't necessarily before. A better future ahead. That's what today represented.
It was so so powerful and unbelievably emotional. We would
not be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, let me give you an idea of who was
saying all of that. That's the Washington Post. David Ignacious, historian,
John Meacham, Representative Adam Smith, Democrat from Washington, former Secretary
of Defense Leon Panetta, Senator Mark Kelly, current Democrat from Arizona,
Jim Scutto, I'm not sure how you pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Shooto, I don't watch a lot. I also went to
my high school, like Fauci. Did I know this? Because
these mans get big, get big request to come back
and speak at Regis. But yours truly on the first
or second largest radio platform whatever in America. Not a
lot of love from the high school. Keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
MSNBC's David Noriega, Ted Deutsch, Democrat from Florida, and Arab
Israeli negotiator Aaron David. Also Stephen Colbert even said cut nine.
Donald Trump did something good. Had to make a joke
about it, but cut nine Today thanks to Trump's newly
(09:13):
broken ceasefire and Gaza, all living Israeli.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hostages and almost two thousand.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Kaliston in prisoners have been released.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Okay, it's important credit where credit is due. Donald Trump
did something good.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Are we still canceled? Sure? I tried. I tried, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Jimmy Kimmel even said good work. Now they got to
make jokes on the backside, but they're actually giving President
Trump credit This is how successful Trump has suddenly become.
He has united Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert in praise.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Cut eight.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
What a day for Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
You know what, He finally did something positive today and
I want to give him credit for it, because I
know he's not the type to take credit for himself.
Trumpes in Israel and Egypt today is to celebrate a
ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. All twenty Israeli hostages are home.
After seven hundred and thirty a days, almost two thousand
(10:17):
Palestinian prisoners and katies have been released. And while we're
only in the first phase of what will undoubtedly be
a long and tricky process, the fact is the bombing
has stopped, the hostages have been released, and Trump deserves
some of the praise for that. And so I know
it sounds crazy to say, but good work on that one,
President Trump. Now maybe you can not invade Portland.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Just an idea, Okay, like this is I understand, I
got to slap him on the back and make a
joke or whatever. But the fact that Colbert, Kimmel, CNN,
and MSNBC are all lining up for much of their
day buck and having to say, President Trump, get a
good job. I do wonder what their moron audiences are
(10:58):
thinking here. You and I are not surprised this happened,
but this is what we voted for.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We were right. I would also add that they're limiting
the praise to getting the hostages back, but the more
comprehensive deal here. There's never been anything like this in
Medi's peace negotiations, involving Hamas, involving the future of the
state of Israel. I mean this, this is enormous as
(11:24):
a framework for the Middle East going forward. And they're
not saying that because Clay. It's one thing to point out, Okay, fine,
he got the hostages back. We all have to admit
that's good. I would also note who was it. I
couldn't I can't remember, but somebody said two thousand Palestinian prisoners.
Those are detainees, they're terror in New York, that's a
different The New York Times called it a hostage trade,
(11:46):
as if the criminals that were under you know, Awak
and Key, were the same as the hostages that were kidnapped.
So I just want to note that on the one side, Pep,
you have civilians who were kidnapped at gunpoint for no
reason other than the barbarism and hatred of Hamas. And
on the other side, you have people who were breaking
(12:07):
the Geneva Convention in every way imaginable, fighting as a
non established military, killing civilians, and all of the things
that you could point to anyway. But they are trying
to limit this to the hostages coming back, and they're
not willing to say to their audience, Clay. Even in
these clips, for the most part, some of the more
(12:27):
news people are alluding to this. Aaron David Miller is
actually a sharp guy. I know him from years back,
and he knows the region well. There are people out
there who are lifetime policy wonks who are saying that
part of it is a huge breakthrough too, and that's
something they won't say on Kimmel's show. They won't say
(12:49):
that Donald Trump not only succeeded as president in getting
these hostages back, but Clay, he has succeeded more on
mid EA's peace than Obama than by then Bush, then Clinton,
then Reagan, then go back, Dan Carter, keep going back.
That they will not say, let me ask you this,
(13:12):
and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm curious what your answer is we can talk about
it when we come back as we're coming up against
a break. How much do you think the average American
cares or is paying attention to what's going on right
now in the Middle East? In other words, does this
move Donald Trump's approval rating in the United States in
any kind of appreciable way, or people like you and
(13:34):
me and all of our listeners that are engaged on
a day to day basis in the news are aware
of this. But is this resonating with your average dad
or mom sitting in a car line picking up kids
at school, like, is this something that matters?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I really don't think so for the most part. I
think for the I think for the Jewish American community,
especially because we had Carol Markowitz on yesterday. She has
family in Israel, she has family that are in the
IDF right, So that is very noteworthy for people that
feel a direct connection to what's going on over there.
(14:09):
But day to day over here, this will be swept
up in the broader news cycle very quickly. And I
think there's nothing wrong with leaving the diplomacy to the diplomat, well,
in this case, to Donald Trump, the diplomat in chief,
and moving back to issues here on the home front.
You know that Trump has helped clean that mess up
(14:30):
or bring that mess to an end. Let's get our
focus back here at home. I mean, there's no need
for us to have a split focus. I think that
takes away from any of the initiatives, and they're not
the stuff with Portland and Chicago and the border and
trade deals with China. That's all still underway too. This
is a big news story more than it is a
big main Street story. I think that's fair good analysis.
(14:55):
Now we've got Zolensky coming to the White House on Friday.
Within that construct, what is MSNBC and CNN going to
say if Trump actually brings peace between Ukraine and Russia too?
Remember that scene in Indiana Jones and the Raiders of
the Lost Arc when they owe the answer is going
to be one hundred percent for me.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But yes, I'm not forgetting any of those scenes. It
will it will be like that at MSNBC. If Trump
ends the Russia Ukraine war, they will just melt in
real like there won't be anything left. They will spontaneously combust.
Total protonic reversal. I mean, it'll be a total I
don't know what they'll do over there. All right, we'll
come back into this year, I say, Raiders of the
(15:35):
Lost Ark. Oh yeah, well they we'll get the arc.
Well we have double we have double I was thinking
when they drink from the chalice at the end and
double the other one. Yeah, there's actually double ones.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, I mean it will be a Lawrence O'donalds show
might be more like that, and whatever other shows are on,
like Chris Hayes might be more like the Raiders of
the Lost Arc. But people will melt or evaporate in
real time if Trump actually does the peace deal with
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Not only did Trump have a huge win yesterday, as
did really the whole Middle East and the world stipolized world,
but there are some people who have some bets that
they made who should pay up. I would think one
in particular over at the view Miss Elissa Farah, formerly
of the Trump White House, I might add first term
(17:28):
here it turns out that she made a promise, and
I think she should be kept with that promise. Clay,
listen to this. This is what you said on the air.
I don't know a couple of years ago.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
If he gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I
will wear a Maga hat for one day on the
show and say thank you for doing it.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
She'll number right off my head.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
You have to be able to cheer for wins when
they happen and then call out relentlessly the wrong dull.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I gotta say, a deal is a deal, A promise
is a promise, A bet is a bet. Like, however
you want to put this, I don't clay if you
or I made a promise to this audience about wearing
a half during the shit joh, we're wearing that hat.
So if you has to pay up here totally.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
If I had said, if Joe Biden gets the hostages back,
I'll wear a Biden hat, this is last December, to
be clear. But yeah, yeah, last December. She said it
after Trump was elected, but before he had taken office.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
This is no brainer. A BET's a bet. She should
She's pay up.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Like when buck Island went underwater, you, even though you
had to get a snorkel, you took me to a
fancied dinner and we had a great stage.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I did true. I owe Jesse Kelly a red lobster outing.
I have not forgot that's right. That's right. Falls a
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of the after school club. Trust me, everybody out there
who has kids knows how crazy this is. But we
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All right, welcome back into clay An Buck Things getting spicy.
We mentioned the View a little bit of a back
and forth with the wife of RFK Junior and Sunny
hostin the most hostile member of the View on all things.
I might just add she's just the most hostile person
(19:54):
on that show in general. But she was hostile with
Cheryl Hines. Is her name, right? I know her from
the Larry David Show. Am I right? That's her name?
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Team yeah, making sure she's an actress. She's married to
RFK Junior, so they they had a bit of a
tet tet and we shall discuss that coming up here. Also,
the I think it's the biggest liberal podcast now Pivot.
You know this, this show Pivot for libs. If you're
(20:24):
like a New York Magazine New York Times subscriber, this
is the pot This and the New York Times podcast
are the Who is on the Pivot pod? Like, I
don't know?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Uh it is?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I forget her name? And doctor or Professor Galloway from
n YU Karris is it? Kara Swisher? Is Sara Swisher?
That's right? Kara Swisher, and she argued with me about
masks once online. That's all I remember from her. And
she was wrong and I was right. So apparently Buck
is very smart and she should say I'm sorry that
I was so wrong. But Scott Galloway, he actually said
(20:58):
some very good things on some topics I will say,
but he weighed in we're going to get to his
analysis clay of possible. He talked about a possible Kamala run.
I think you'll be pleased to know that this is
something that the Libs are discussing now as a as
a thing that may happen. I want to hold everybody
in suspense over this one though. Well. Also did you
(21:21):
see and I love this?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Kamala wrote, I remember we had fun with this that
Gavin Newsom texted or out hiking, will call you back
when she announced that she was running and then never
actually called him back, which was yes, I never called
her back.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I ghosted the Democrat presidential candidate.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
For a hire campaign. Yes, evidently did you see this?
This follow up to that after she wrote about it
in uh, this is amazing this actually Kamla. I give
Kamala credit this Unlike Alyssa Farr Griffin like, I'll call
balls and strikes here.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
This is actually funny.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I thought it was funny that Gavin NewU some never
called her back because he said he was out hiking.
Gavin Newsom was upset that she wrote about that in
the book, and he texted, this is the latest version
of this book. He texted Kamala and said, well, you know,
I did post on social media and endorsement for you,
and you didn't include that in the book. And Kamala
Harris texted him back on book tour, will text We'll
(22:22):
call you back.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So he finally.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Texted her after a year of not commenting, like, hey,
with the link, I did endorse you on social media.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
This should have been in the book.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And Kamala Harris texted him back on book tour, will
get back to you. So my point on this is, uh,
they are really kind of going at it in a
very frenomy way that suggests that they are aware of
being opponents in the twenty twenty eight election. And I
(22:55):
don't think there's a law of lost here. You know this,
sometimes politicians can go at it in public and actually
like each other privately. In other words, it's a little
bit of a public show. I don't think Kamala and
Gavin Newsom like each other at all, and I think
they want the same thing in twenty eight Yes, I
think they both want to run.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Day before we got Eric Trump come up a little
bit friend of the show. Some of the president, entrepreneur,
business really business leader, I mean entrepreneur, also a whole
bunch of things. So we'll talk to him about news
of the day, his father's legacy, some of the things
he's working on. But this Letitia James situation, Clay, I
(23:35):
think is quite interesting. I read the New York Times
most recent large piece on this story. They wrote on it,
and it is really a masterclass in doing everything possible
to try to shift the playing field the narrative in
(23:56):
favor of in this case, the defendant le tissue James right.
It's all oh, I mean, the storytelling, it's it's really masterful.
You should go, Clay, if you haven't seen this most
recent one. It's like there was a small, modest colonial
house on a street, the flutter of birds in the background,
children playing at a nearby seesaw, and somehow this is
(24:20):
at the center of a political you know, It's like
everything is fine.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's you know, this is just in the this is
like Main Street America.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And then the mean Republicans come along. You can almost
hear the theme music becoming angry and dissonant. But let'ssue
James has got an issue here, and that is she
not only signed. And this is all alleged, of course,
right because this is now before a court and she
(24:50):
has been indicted. But the simple facts are she bought
a home and got preferential treatment on the loan for
that home because she indicated that it would be an
invent property. I own a bunch of investment properties, so
I've been through this process. Yes, she said it was
a second residence, right, she did not say it was
an investment property. Wait, that is I gotta go back,
(25:14):
and I think I think the way she said it
was primary. But the so let's writ it down. She
said it was a second home for her.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think she said it was a she was not
going to be renting it out because when you rent
out homes, you know this because you've bought a bunch
of rentals. When you're renting out a home, the down
payments are higher and the rates you typically have to
pay are higher when you say it is a primary
or secondary home. Because you are the occupier, you then
(25:48):
are able to get a preparential rate.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, so here you go. This is the indictment says
that while miss James, I got this mixed up in
my head, Miss James indicated to her mortgage broker that
she expected to use the house as a second home.
She had instead used it as a rental property, a
rental investment property, renting the property to a family. Now
here's where it gets interesting, or here's what they're saying.
(26:14):
What she really did is not rent it and not
use it. And this is where the thing gets a
little bit more confusing. She didn't use it as a
second home. She moved family members of hers into the
home who then paid either no rent or so little
rent as to be essentially deminimous. I mean, it doesn't
(26:35):
so she got the home as her home because basically
then she's on the hook for both mortgages her current
home that she lives in and the secondary home. If
she says it's a second house for her, if it's
going to be something that she rents out, that changes
the equation for the kind of mortgage you get. Sorry, So, yes,
(26:58):
that is an important point of clarification. But what makes
this more complicated is that she didn't rent it out,
and she didn't use it as a second home. She
just used it for nieces of hers to go and
live in. Now, the interesting part of this is that,
according to a few reports that have come out these
(27:19):
nieces or one in particular, that one of the nieces
is a convicted felon. Now that or and I think
is wanted also on an additional charges in another state.
That creates problems for you in the mortgage process or
in the getting a loan and getting so it seems
(27:40):
like she may have falsified her loan application in order
to help a felon relative get a home that that
relative would not have easily been able to get a
mortgage for. And this is where the preferential loan amount,
and they think it's about eighteen thousand dollars eighteen nine
hundred comes in. Okay, let me give you my defense
(28:03):
attorney hat here all of those facts. If I am
her defense attorney in a Northern Virginia courtroom, here's what
I am going to say about this. And again I'm
not saying that this is my argument, I'm saying, pretend
you're a jury and I am defending Letitia James, and
pretend the jury is made up seventy percent of Trump haters,
(28:26):
thirty percent maybe of Trump voters. That might not even
be an exaggeration, but let's say it's seventy thirty. In
other words, you know there's twelve jurors. Let's say eight
of them are Kamala voters and four of them are
Trump voters. Just to roughly kind of lay it out there,
do you think twelve jurors are going to convict if
her defense buck, which I think it would be. Is.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
When I bought this house, I intended to use it
as a secondary residence to get away from the stress
of New York City. You Virginians know how great of
an area in Norfolk is, how.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Amazing it is to be able to get away.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Then I had some nieces and family members who were
destitute and out on the street, and I decided, because
I had comparatively more, that I allowed them to move in.
I wasn't ever planning this, but I just wanted to
extend the hand as an aunt to family members that
needed help. And now they're trying to prosecute me for this.
(29:26):
If I could go back and redo the mortgage, I
would change it to be more accurate. But life happens
and we adjusted on the fly. This is not intentional.
They're coming after me because of my politics. Would eight
Kamala voters vote to convict if that is her defense?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
No, I think that she's Look, she's got Abby Lowell
as a defense attorney. I don't think he's even My
guess is he's probably not even gonna charge her. He's
the kind of lawyer who usually gets correct mid to
high six figure retainer and gets paid one thousand dollars
an hour. That's what a white collar defense attorne, only
a top one. I've known some of them in New York.
I have a friend who did this. That's what they make,
(30:04):
you know. They say, you know, you got to give
me a quarter of a million or a half a
million dollar retainer and then one thousand dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
So because criminal defense clients, as you may well understand,
are not great about paying bills, so usually you're like,
you better give me a big retainer because I'm not
going to be trying to track you down if you
get convicted.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
To get paid. So that's the way that works. Doing
white collar defense, you know, stock stuff frauds, things like that,
you know, healthcare fraud. You generally are dealing with clientele
that have some assets, especially on the Wall Street side
of things with insider trading. So that's where the high
dollar white collar defense attorney's come into play. Okay, so
she's got top tier legal defense. You raise a very
(30:44):
good point about the comp I've thought that all along. Look,
we've told everybody don't expect a conviction here. Okay, that
doesn't mean it won't happen, and we're not trying to.
I can't make a judgment one or the other. I'm
not on this jury. I don't know. But it's not
a slam dunk. And to play point about that, it's
a grand niece, by the way. Yeah, here though is
the Here is the additional component of this. The reports
(31:07):
that are out that her grand niece has been living
rent free with her children there, and there are reports
that she the grand niece is a fugitive from North
Carolina and has violated probation and still has a bench
warrant out for her. That's what the reporting is as
I have seen it, as of this morning. So the
(31:30):
one thing that's you know, you're right, it's gonna be.
I was trying to help my family. You know, it
was a rental property. I just gave it to them gratis.
But then, of course that undermines the risk factors that
go into the loan process. But still there might be
a bit of a tugging on the heartstrings there. But
the fleeing fugitive thing maybe a little That may be
a little bit of also a problem just because you're
(31:51):
the attorney general for the state of New York and
people might not want to cut you as much slack for,
you know, playing around the edge here a bit when
you're doing this for somebody that's also a convicted felon
or might be a convicted felon. Let me also give
you a counter argument. I just gave you what I
think the defense attorney case argument partly will be. I
(32:14):
believe this house, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Crew.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I believe it was one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars.
That is the Norfolk. And I know I sometimes screw
up the pronunciation. There is it nor I don't I
want to avoid the curseword, but I feel like I'm
supposed to pronounce it like it's a curseword at the end, right,
nor I'm not even gonna say it because I get
in trouble. So you guys in in that area, let
(32:40):
me know how I'm supposed to pronounce it. But how
many people do you think buy a secondary home in
this neighborhood? I looked it up where a house costs
one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. In other words,
most people who buy second homes, it's your wealthy and
you are getting away from wherever.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You may live. You go to a lake, you go
to a beach, you go.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
To the mountains, and you're paying a decent amount of
money for that second home. I think the reality is
she bought this home intending for these grand nieces or
whatever they are relation to her to be able to
live there. I think she actually intentionally lied. So I
(33:26):
think the challenge on this is if you're buying a
second home and you are Letitia James, and I think
she has like a six hundred thousand dollars seven hundred
thousand dollars place in the New York City area. Based
on looking at the images of this house, It's not
like she bought a farm in a rural.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Area where it's different.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
This is like not that nice of a neighborhood in
that this area of Virginia. I think she bought it
intending to put her family members in this home. So
I think she did lie. Now she may defend herself
by saying I thought I was gonna go kick it
in virgin and sit on the porch and sip, you know,
sip drinks on this.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
He's going to claim that it was a change. It
was a change in status that occurred after the loan,
and that that's the best defense she has.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
What I'm saying is if you actually look at the facts,
if she had bought some riverfront property that's beautiful view,
or she had bought some farm, why.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Would she buy this as a second As a second property.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Most people don't buy second properties my point on this,
that are infinitely worse than their primary property. You don't
want to go to vacation or at least not a
different kind of place, right Like, most people aren't buying
second homes to go live in a home that's far
worse than the home that they live in now. Most
people don't buy second homes. They're not wealthy enough to
do it, understood, But this was not She was buying
(34:45):
this for her family.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I think she intentionally lied.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now I think she'll defend herself by saying, oh, I
didn't know my family was going to end up in
these dire straits here. But I think the facts actually
don't support that argument. Well, this is like the old
man rule that I've or at least for myself, which is,
if I'm going to travel somewhere for like leisure, the
bed has to be about as comfortable as my current
bed or else.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't want to go like I used to do.
I used to rough it, man. I used to stay
and you know, I would go to like when I
was a college kid. I would stay in places where
I mean, heck, I stayed in places where I wasn't
even sure my stuff was going to be there the
next morning when I woke up, right, I mean, that
was just the reality of it. Now that I'm an
old man, I'm like, what, what's the what's the thread count?
(35:29):
Is it quiet? Will they will they leave me? Leave
me alone until at least ten am? Like I am
very different rules now for vacation, Well, I will just
point out, and all of you hikers out there are
going to get angry at me. The wilderness has houses
and hotels near it. I don't mind. Like that's great,
Clay's going after you campers out there. Clay is a city.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Is a city, kid, not even like I'm fine, Like
I'll go on a hike, I will go, go canoeing,
I will go. I'm not really that excited about putting
up a tent and sleeping on the ground.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Now, I we are. We are very sympatico on this one.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And I grew up doing that because my dad liked
to do it and I did not like sleeping on
the ground.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I like beds. I like beds.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I like refrigerators. Air has air conditioning. Every wilderness near it,
not necessarily in itself. There's always a place to sleep
where you can still experience the wild.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And so I am a.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Let's go, let's experience the wild, but then let's return
to a bed. You know, humanity has evolved so that
we do not have to sleep on the floors.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And I think we we both like, we both like glamping,
and about half of our audience right now is pulling
our man cards. So I think I think that just happened.
I think we both were on temporary man card restriction
here on the show Clay because we see out of
eye on this one. I am not I don't want
to go anywhere where people are like you might get
(36:58):
eaten by the wildlife too bad, you know you're visiting them.
It's like, I'm I'm not into that. I want to
at least be able to get in my car and leave.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
In fact, we had dinner with your dad recently and
you and your brother were talking about being abandoned in
the in the wilds of Alaska.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Will have on a trip. The grizzly bears all around us,
and they're like, we may not be able to get
you guys out. You might have to sleep here. We
had nothing. We were just going to sleep on the
river bank overnight because we got dropped in by helicopter
and the helicopter couldn't retrieve us and we were freezing
and had no food. That was a quote vacation, okay,
ten years ago, that was my vacation. I hope you
(37:36):
don't eaten by bears in the middle of the night. Boys.
My dad, by the way, loves that stuff. He's like,
you never feel is alive because when you think you're
gonna lose the battle with mother nature, like he loves
that stuff. I have no interest.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Hikers and campers are right now just furiously.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
From there.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We're gonna get jalled up on these emails and talk backs,
but we just have it.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
We'll be safe.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
We'll be safe and warm while you guys are out
on the trail. That's exactly right. I mean some of
you still want to sleep in caves. That's not my thing,
you know, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Look it's a great cave, it's try. There might be
a bear in there. I'll just stay at a hotel.
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Speaker 1 (39:19):
Welcome back in, Welcome back in our number three Clay
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Speaker 2 (39:24):
Appreciate all of.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You hanging out with us as we are rolling through
breaking down all of the news of the day. And
we are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He's
got a brand new book out today. It's called Under Siege.
It is burning up the bestseller ranks. I think I
saw it posted that it is the number one release
on Amazon today, which is a super impressive accomplishment already,
(39:47):
and we'll get into the book in a minute, Eric,
We appreciate you coming on with us having said that
we'll get to the book, but are you still kind
of processing how incredible what yesterday was like in the
Middle East and your dad having the thirty six hours
that he had where even as we started off the
show MSNBC, CNN, Heck, Colbert and Kimmel came out and said, hey,
(40:12):
he did something really impressive. You know when MSNBC, CNN
and the late night hosts are praising you that your
dad must have really accomplished something. What was that like
for you to watch?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Well, guys, a year ago he was literally serving French
fries in McDonald's and now he's just serve at least
know peace. So literally it was exactly a year ago
yesterday he was doing the French fribrantine and riding around
in a garbage truck, and you know, he just solves
Middle East for peace. And I think the most impressive
part to me. Listen, you look at it almost at
every conflict around the world, whether it's you know, World
War One, World War two, Vietnam, Korea, right, you had
(40:45):
kind of a winner, and you had a losure of
those wars as predetermined and here it actually feels like
everybody won, right. I mean, you have you have people
on both sides of the conflict coming out and thanking
him and thanking him profusely for ending the madness, ending
the death and destruction, and then you have an entire
world that's kind of coalesced around this victory. And I
just think that's a really beautiful thing and one of
(41:05):
those things that only he could could pull off.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
And I'm proud. I'm proud of him as a son.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
I mean, listen, you know we're gonna talk about the
siege at some point, you know today. But you know,
everything that we've we've gone through, everything that they tried
to do to destroy us, guys, it all became worth
it for me yesterday, right. I Mean there are times
when you couldn't quite you know, it couldn't couldn't quite
get there, right?
Speaker 5 (41:27):
Was it worth it?
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Was it not?
Speaker 5 (41:29):
It was brutal. They tried to destroy your life.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
And then you see a man up there with the
entire world, respecting America. You know, the death and destruction
and evilness has ended. Conflicts all over the world are ending,
you know, pieces being brought. You know, some son will
go back to their mother tonight, who would have otherwise
not gone back. She would have been finding out that
that person was dead had it not been for his actions.
(41:53):
And I think that makes this all worth it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
The book is under siege, My families fight to save
our nation, where with Eric Trump now talking about it,
and Eric, I have a longtime law enforcement friend who,
as you, he's a big Trump supporter. And as the
whole situation was playing out, the effort to use unprecedented
law fair not just against your dad, as you have
(42:18):
pointed out before, against the Trump organization, against Trump family members,
against all of you, really anyone named Trump became a target.
As you're going through that, he kept saying, a normal
and by this I just mean an every day and
everyday person would be broken by one federal indictment, meaning
oh my gosh, how will I ever be able to
(42:39):
fight this? And and well, you know what is going
to do my reputation? Your dad and your family were
going through four nonsense criminal indictments and some of the
civil stuff that you were having to deal with, including
from Leticia James, which we were just discussing her situation.
What was that like day in and day out? Did
it just feel surreal. Did it feel like your dad
(42:59):
would prepared for it and was able to be a
happy warrior through the whole thing, I mean, bring us
into that.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, well, well listen, you know, honestly I was. I
was a tip of the spear with that whole thing.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
My father had certain constitutional protections that kept a lot
of the subpoenas away from him, right, and so guess
what they did.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
You know, it's thirty three years old. He sat me down.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
He goes, Honey, I want you to run the company.
I want you know you're you're the guy. You love
real estate, you love building, you love everything we do.
You've built so many of our projects, you run everything,
you run our teams. I want you to carry this
forward because obviously I'm going to watch Itton DC And
I said, no problem. And guys, I thought I was
gonna have this great time, you know again, building hotels,
running great organization. I never would have thought that ninety
nine percent of my time for a period of four years,
(43:38):
really a period of eight years, was going to be,
you know, dealing with subpoenas. I became the most subpoenive
person in American history simply because I was the conduit
to everything that he had ever built, because I was
the guy running the organization that had you know, Trump
on the front door. And so they came after us mercilessly,
and thank god, we had two things. We had a
loud voice, and we had enough zeros on the back
of our name that we could literally spent him. And guys,
(44:01):
I've said this plant. We've spent about four million, four
hundred million dollars fighting off the lunatics. And this is
the dirty dossier's this is the made up Russia collusion.
I was the guy that got the call from the
FBI saying, I hear you have secret servers in the
basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. We
didn't have servers in the basement of Trump Tower. It
was all a lie. It was all made up by
Hillary Clinton. It was all made up by Barack Obama.
(44:24):
We didn't have damn servers. But they wanted to put
us under siege, right They needed a reason. You know,
they wanted their October surprise obviously to get you know,
Hillary three more votes. But then when she failed so
miserably against you know, a bunch of ragtag individuals who
didn't know a damn thing about politics.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I e.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Our family. She needed a reason to justify her loss.
Hence the reason they made this up. And they wanted
to have this. Oh, you know, the shadow loom over
my father the entire time. They wanted the shadow government
to try and take him down at every single step
of the way. And then they leaked his tax returns.
I mean, not only did they leak my father's tax returns,
every tax return he had, this is the I R s.
They leaked all my tax returns. They leaked on's tax returns,
(45:04):
the entire family, you know. Then they leaked all the
tax returns of all the employees, all our corporate employees,
you know. Then they silenced us, They took us off
on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. Then they gag ordered
us a lot of times. You'd see me speaking on
the front steps of the you know, of the courthouses
around the country. Why because some of those cases I
wasn't gag ordered in, but my father was, And so
I had to be the person to go out and
(45:25):
talk about, you know, the judge's daughter who you know
apparently worked for the you know, Democratic Party and is
one of the biggest you know, digital media people in
New York State while her father is presiding over a
trial against my father, right, and then they take him
off the ballot of Maine, they take him out the
ballot of Colorado. They do everything they can, they do,
They call up every bank and they try and get
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us deep platform de banked. I mean, guys, this was
a non stop siege against our family. But it wasn't
just against our family. It was against the Republican Party.
It was against you guys, it was against everybody, everybody
who wanted free speech. They tried, they tried to hold
all of us down. They tried to take away our voice.
They wanted to destroy the greatest political movement, you know,
ever made. And it's it's really amazing that we can
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be sitting here exactly one year later, one year after
those court trials and everything else, having been vindicated in
all of them, seeing what's happening to Letitia, seeing Letitia's
case get thrown out literally five zero by the appellate court,
seeing Middle East peacing, you know, inflation go down to nothing,
energy prices go down to nothing. You know, I mean,
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what like, what vindication this is after everything that we've been.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Through and I just wanted to ask as a follow up, Eric,
it's amazing to me to see what your dad has
gone through and just observing him in public. Also, we've
play and I've been fortunate to spend a fair amount
of time with him in interviews and you know one
or you know, in a person a person face to
face setting, your dad. I have never seen him look
(46:54):
scared once. And this is somebody who was shot in
the ear and somebody else tried to shoot soon after.
And that is it almost seems superhuman to a lot
of us observing and I truly mean.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
That he is superhuman. But the guys, this guy I've
known my entire life. I mean, he's always been this
energizer bunny, you know, on steroids, wearing a red tie,
right and a dark shuit.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
That's always been my father.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Everything that everything that he's ever wanted to do is
always you know, he's always charged and it's his only focus.
He becomes people don't realize. He becomes very myopically focused
on whatever he wants to do. If it's building the
greatest building, he becomes myoptically focused on. If it's building
a great course, he becomes myopically focused on his real
estate career. If it was the Apprentice, he becomes myoptically
focused on it. Well, he did the same thing with politics.
(47:38):
I mean, he just did this this turn and just
dedicated his entire life to politics and winning a race.
He became myopically focused on it and never I mean,
I can't tell you how many people have lost money
betting against Donald Trump. You know, don't don't bet against
the guy, because he's gonna beat you every single time.
And you know, he became myoptally focused when he came
to the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
Peace.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
I mean, that's the one thing that he always wanted
to achieve, and that was probably the gratest achievement of all.
It's something that everybody was laughing at. This will never happen.
These societies hate each other, they've been warring for thousands
of years. They'll never come together. And he goes, no,
I want, I want peace in the Middle East. I
want the Abraham Accords. I want I want people to
be kind of, you know, prosperous. But he does not
back down, he does not mince words. He's politically incorrect,
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and frankly, it's what people adored about him. I mean,
you'd watch those primary debates guys in twenty you know,
in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, you know, and and all
those all those soundbites were rehearsed, right. I mean, you know,
Hillary Clinton well is very lucky that Donald Trump isn't
running the legal system of the United States.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Right.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
He's throwing out these ingers, yeah, because you'd be in
jail for the rest of your life, right, And he's
doing it off the cuff. And and people like somebody
who was finally real, somebody who wasn't PC, somebody who
was willing to go out there and fight like hell,
and somebody who was willing to work hard, because you
just don't have that in politics. I mean, most of
the politicians are lazy, their canned, they're they're scripted, they're
they're inauthentic, and and and they lose, They lose Americans.
(48:58):
And that's why, you know, there was never any excitement
in politics before my father came into the race. No
one was excited about Jem Bush. No one gave a
damn about Jet Bush. And now you watch these rallies
where thirty fifty thousand people show up to these rallies.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
People are excited.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
And by the way, a lot of those people are
young kids, who are you engaged in kind of the
democratic process for the first time.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
It's a beautiful thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
We're talking to Eric Trump. The book is under Siege,
My Family's Fight to save our Nation. It's available everywhere. Eric,
you just talked about your dad and his unique sensibilities
when it comes to politics. You're a builder, You're a
business person. So is Jared Kushner, so is Steve Whitcoff.
Obviously your dad. How much do you think being a
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business guy made it possible to get a deal as
opposed to a straight politics guy in the Middle East?
I love this because deal makers look at solutions or
situations and just try to get to yes, whereas it
feels like a lot of politicians get bogged down in
things that don't matter. How much do you think business
(50:02):
and deal making really was the foundation of what Jared,
what Steve and what your dad were able to do.
And how much do you see that in your own
world from a business perspective, as looking at politics as
a series of deals as opposed to getting bogged down
in sometimes these intractable issues.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
By the way, it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
I'm not sure if I've ever gotten asked, but it's
one hundred percent being a deal maker. I mean, listen,
Obama ran on what hope, right, I like hope. Hope
doesn't get you anywhere in business. You know what I
hope gets you. I hope gets you bankrupt. You do
you don't hope for something, you go out and you
effectually change, right. And and that's what Jared did so great,
That's what wa cough im in Steve Wickoff.
Speaker 5 (50:41):
I am my closest friends. I love him to death, but.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I mean these you know, and and guys like me, right,
I'm out of business if we don't you know, if
we don't get results, you don't get things across the
finish line, you are out of business, right like that,
That's what business is about, making the deal right, getting
things accomplished, getting things done. Whereas black Obama was about hope.
Hope isn't a strategy. You know, results are a strategy.
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And that's what my father demands. He demands results. Everything
he does, every word he says, is about getting a
result right, you know, and and that's a calculated result.
Everything he does, every press conference, every meeting, every every
call he makes, every time he pushes his cabinet, everything
he does, every person that he appoints. It's about getting results.
(51:28):
And that's what motivates my father, and that's what motivates
people in the business world. And so I think that's
why all of a sudden you had this kind of
you know, ragtag group of people once again, you know,
who didn't know anything about politics. You know, it might
not have even known that much about Middle East piece,
but was able to go in there, build relationships, negotiate well,
get everybody to a table, and actually effectuate change versus
(51:49):
you know, these career bureaucrats who talk about how how
much they know about foreign policy and yet they're incapable
of getting anything done. I mean, how how many more
times do you do you have to hear? Do you
remember we're in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Well, Donald Trump
does not know anything about foreign policy. It's like, yeah,
they didn't know anything about foreign policy either, you know,
and guess what, it's a really smart guy who could
figure it out in about three and a half seconds,
(52:11):
bring people to the table, and actually get something accomplished.
And you know, it always makes me so happy when
I see him just run circles around these people who
claim to know something about foreign policy, yet they haven't
progressed a ball in the last you know, three decades.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Well, it's been amazing to see and especially to watch
a lot of your dad's critics eat a hefty dose
of humble pie because of the huge win in the
Middle East. So congrats to you, Congrats to your family
and to the President. I have one last one for you, Eric.
You and I are rough with the same age plays
a little bit older, but we grew up with the
(52:45):
same movies, you and I, Eric, and your book is
Under Siege, My Famili's Fight to Save Our Nation, which
is already number one. Everyone should go get a copy
of it. Does this Stephen Sagall, by the way, a
vocal Trump supporter, Does Stephen sagalls Under Siege make your
top ten Action Movies All Time list?
Speaker 5 (53:04):
Yeah? By one hundred percent?
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Right, I mean Steven's is always like a legend for us, right,
as you know, as was John Claude Bandamas you remember
very well. I mean my father's my father and I
used to watch literally blood Sport every single weekend.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
I mean, we love, we love that movie.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
We we watched that too. You know, it's Steven Miller's
favorite movie. He told us that on the show Number
one all time.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Well, fuck you remember the Kumte and everything, right, we
love that. Under Siege, I mean, how can you not?
Speaker 4 (53:27):
You know, you you add you had you know, Gary
Busey of all things. Gary Busey ended up being on
The Apprentice with us for for years. Steven Sagall. He was,
you know, tossing people around the Missouri remember.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
The battleship, and you know it was it was. It
was a great movie.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
But no, never, never did I think that would come
into a little, you know, fashion in my life. I mean,
I listen to anybody roughly our age. I'm forty one, anybody
roughly our agent's scene under siege. But they literally, guys,
they put us under siege. You know, they tried to
destroy us. They they tried to do everything they could
to cut us off, to silence our voice, to to
bankrupt us, to deprive us, to toize the media, to
(54:01):
weaponize the government, to weaponize the DOJ, to weaponize every right,
to make up dirty ossier's, to impeach him, to go
after you know, I mean his supreme court justices, his
inner circle, his family, to try and screw up his marriage,
to try and screw up his family, to try and
steal his businesses from him. That is the definition of
a siege. And the good news is and then, by
(54:22):
the way, and they did that to all of America, right.
They tried to go after you know, Americans and mainly
conservatives vis a vis the I. R. S. They went
after their churches, they went after their religious institutions, they
went after their children. They taught them revision is history.
They tried to you know, confuse their gender identities. This
is the siege that they put this country through. And
we won the siege, guys.
Speaker 5 (54:42):
We wanted.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
We won every aspect of it, based on the fact
that we had the most resounding victory in American political history,
winning the popular vote, winning every swing state, having every
state in the country attacked to the right. And so, guys,
they put us all under siege, and we won the
greatest political movement in the history of this country.
Speaker 5 (55:00):
One.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
And so, you know, the book, as ugly as some
of the topics are in there, you know, actually is
beautiful because you can beat the mainstream media, and you
can beat the weaponization of government, and we can win
as a collective Americans who love this country and love God,
and love our constitution and love our flag. And that's
exactly what we did together.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Heymen, Book under Siege. Encourage you guys to go check
it out. Appreciate the time Eric look forward acrossing paths
down the road.
Speaker 5 (55:27):
Guys, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Look, we've had a phenomenal news out of Israel all
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