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October 22, 2025 57 mins

Kingmakers Speculation intensifies around the 2028 presidential race, with predictions that Trump will act as kingmaker, potentially backing Vice President JD Vance with Secretary of State Marco Rubio as a running mate. On the Democratic side, Kamala Harris’s viability is questioned, with Gavin Newsom and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez floated as likely contenders. The hosts critique Harris’s campaign spending—allegedly $1.5 billion over 107 days—and her attempt to distance herself from Biden’s perceived failures. Does Curtis Want Zohran to Win? The chaotic state of the New York City mayoral race, spotlighting Curtis Sliwa’s refusal to drop out despite pressure from political elites and billionaires. They explore the implications of Sliwa’s candidacy on Andrew Cuomo’s chances and the rise of progressive candidate “Mom Donny,” whom they label a “communist.” Trump’s own commentary on the race is featured, emphasizing the national stakes and the potential fallout for the Democratic Party. JD and the MAGA Movement The rise of Vice President JD Vance, portrayed as a disciplined, intelligent, and family-oriented conservative leader. Vance’s background—from a troubled upbringing to Yale Law School and the Marine Corps—is framed as the embodiment of the American Dream, making him a compelling successor to Trump. The hosts defend Vance against media attacks, including criticisms from Jen Psaki and others who question his charisma (“Riz”) and unfairly target his wife, Usha Vance. They argue that Vance’s biracial family and values resonate with everyday Americans, especially parents concerned about cultural shifts revealed during COVID-era remote learning. The show also explores Ron DeSantis’s political trajectory, praising his leadership in Florida while noting how media narratives shifted once he was seen as a potential rival to Trump. The hosts discuss the ideological realignment within both parties, noting how many 1990s Democrats would now be considered Republicans due to the left’s embrace of identity politics and progressive agendas. FL Lieutenant Gov. Jay Collins Florida’s governance is praised through an interview with Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins, who outlines a bold plan to eliminate property taxes on homesteaded properties via ballot initiative. He emphasizes fiscal responsibility, alternative funding methods, and the importance of voter engagement. Collins also hints at a possible gubernatorial run following Governor Ron DeSantis’s term limit, calling DeSantis the greatest governor in Florida—and possibly U.S.—history.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Coming to you live from who Woe here in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Very excited to be hanging out with a wo WO
fam today, so we'll be seeing a lot of you
are who are listeners to this great heritage radio station.
One hundred years, one hundred years pretty amazing. Some people
are saying amazing. One hundred years not quite the two

(00:26):
hundred and fifty that America will be celebrating, but one
hundred years is a great milestone and we are looking
forward to seeing many of you in this area.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It is my third time to Fort Wayne, Indiana.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
How many guys who grew up in Manhattan have gone
on three separate joyous adventures to Fort Wayne, Indiana. I
think I'm in I think I'm in pretty elite company there,
mister Clay. So you know, I'm kind of old hat
here at all things Fort Wayne.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I've been here.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Although you were telling me somebody's upset at me for
calling me a liar?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
What's the late?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
What's the reason that that I was called a liar
on social media by this person one of.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Our one of our esteemed listeners, writes, Yesterday Clay said
he was flying home from New York City, Yet today
he continues saying he's in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Guy's a fraud or or Clay got.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Up early as I did to go to this thing
called the airport and come here.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
There's another possibility I'm thrown out there all that you
were in Nashville last night.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Of all the accusations to be levied against me saying
that I'm a fraud, I did full disclosure, fly from
New York City to Nashville late last night, slept at home,
and then got up early this morning and flew to Indiana.
So if you need, if you need direct evidence, I'm
sure there's lots of people who saw me at the
airport that can confirmed that I did, in fact travel

(01:46):
from New York City to Nashville back to Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I've reached a point where I almost could tell, like
if you if you just put me on a plane
and you didn't tell me where I was going, But
just based on the friendliness of some of the past
injures to me on the flight, I can I know
if we're going to a red.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
State or a blue state. For the most part, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Like when I'm going to someone, when I'm flying to Nashville,
someone always is.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like and the people are usually pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Chill about it, pretty low key, like, hey man, you know,
love the show as they walk past, you know, as
they're or you know, as they're walking next to me
in line to get on the plane. But when I'm
going to LA or New York, very large cities, not
always the kid, not always as likely, not always as likely.
It depends, you know. But if if I'm heading to
Tennessee or or or Texas or any any very solid

(02:36):
red part of the country, we tend to come across
our wonderful listeners, and I'm always very thankful when they
come over and say hi and all that.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
It is fantastic. I will say.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Every time I fly to or from New York City,
the number of people still wearing masks on the airplane,
it blows my mind. You live in Miami now, you
probably don't see it that often.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Now ever, it's very rare. Do I see it?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Certainly not in like day to day life and the
airports you'll see a couple of people. But it's in LA.
I saw a lot because I stopped in LA before
I went to Taiwan. There were a fair number of
masks in that airport.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, I mean, I think that's an Asian thing for
a long time, right Taiwan. I'm in lah Yeah, yeah,
in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, there's a lot of masks in Taiwan.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
And it's one of my only gripes with the entire
but they've been doing they do it. It's it's more
of a yeah, they've been doing it since way before COVID,
and it's viewed almost more as like a politeness thing
if you have a cold, I think, and so I
give a pass. Also, I just the time and his
people are so lovely that I just I just give
them a pass on this in general. But there's you

(03:47):
will see a lot of masks in East Asia, for sure,
that's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
But that's not a COVID specific thing that predated code.
This is all COVID specific.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Still, I was kind of blown away on my flight
last night from New York City to Nashville. Okay, we
have invited I think we got asked about this a lot.
Producer Ali tells me that we have invited Andrew Cuomo
three different times on the show. Cuomo will not come on,
I think buck because I said, I'm gonna be honest.

(04:16):
A lot of awful things all true about Andrew Cuomo
during COVID, and I know you did.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Maybe I could interview him as himself, be like, excuse me, sir,
why did you put it all of the elderly with
COVID in nursing homes at the worst possible time.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Please answer this question for me.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
We could see where he goes, and I bet that
is one reason that he will not come on. Although
my argument would be he should be trying to talk
to everybody because he's losing in the races thirteen days away.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Now, if he's scared of us, by the way, what else,
what does that tell you? I mean, look, we would
push him hard on some things. Actually, the COVID thing
I wouldn't waste that much time on if we had
him on, just because that's not an issue from New
York right now.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I do want to hold him accountable.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I would ask him about it, but you know, we
are not going to turn it into like a COVID
fest because I just want old ladies not to be
you know, smashed on the head with hammers by maniacs.
In the subway and not scare away business and not
have the streets fill. Feel like I would just want
New York to be well governed, and that's what matters
right now.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Actually, I'm curious if Cuomo would tell us I think
that Joe Biden ordered the hit on Cuomo like the
Biden White House, because I think Cuomo would have potentially
run against Joe Biden in the primary in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Underdiscussed stories is how much of the law fair against
Trump was directly coordinated with the Biden White House, the
Biden not just the Biden doj of course, which is
running it, the Biden white House itself, everybody it was.
It was all being run through Command Central. And Biden
wanted Trump to go to prison. He actually wanted his

(05:53):
opponent to go to prison.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I think he wanted Cuomo done in New York.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think if Biden had wanted to stop that sexual
harassment investigation, I mean, the look.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
They definitely look what they did to this White House,
I'm sorry, previous white House, this Biden White House.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Man, they fought thirty the Eric Adams thing.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
That could not have been more clear, you're going to
bring federal corruption charges against a mayor.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
For upgrades upgrades.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
And calling to try and get fire department approval on fire.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You know, like some people.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Didn't see this and they were getting mad. I was like,
why are you guys standing up for a Democrat. It's
just about standing up.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
For what's right and what's reasonable.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
The reason they were giving Eric Adams the code read
was because he was a very important piece early on
of telling the real story about illegal waves of migration
into American cities that Biden wanted that Biden's team supported,
and how it was really cost intensive and bad for

(06:59):
those cities. He broke with the consensus on that one,
and it mattered, and every investigation started.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yes, as soon as he went public and said, we're
spending way too much money on illegals.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
They're taking over hotels.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
And again, I think that Biden ordered the code red
through his Department of Justice.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
On Eric Adams and on Cuomo because he's on his
Whenever we say Biden, we mean the whole crew.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Biden is smart enough or brain worked well enough to
be managing all of this, but I think he had awful,
awful vindictive crew surrounding him.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Team Biden.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
If you read the book Original Sin by Jake Tapper,
you will find, as I did, that they really did
have sort of the Biden mafia that was like a
crime family in the way that they held grudges, in
the way they went after who they perceived to be enemies.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I gotta tell you, man, the Kamala one hundred and
seventy days, as the comologists on this show like one
hundred and seventy like one hundred and.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Seven days when I was reading it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
But the whole thing is meant to create separation from
the Biden disaster and elevation for Kamala.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And truly reading.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
This book, it fails because at every stage it's everyone
else was messing up but me. Everyone else was giving
bad advice, everyone else was making the wrong decision. It
is a book of zero accountability for Kamala, and I
just think that it comes across too obviously as such

(08:35):
for it to be a Okay, now I'm the you know,
I am separate from this disaster. I didn't just get
off one of the lifeboats in the Titanic. I'm actually
going to be my own entity.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Now.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You know what you would do? Why you would write
a book like that? Because you're gonna run again.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
No, she wants to, Yeah, but I'm saying I actually
the book unintended with her. This is I am more
convinced now that there's gonna be a lot of pressure
on her not to run, because remember, every dollar that's
given to her is not a dollar given to Gavin Newsom.
Every person who gets behind her in that primary, Gavin

(09:14):
Newsom is going to be fighting with her. And if
she loses the primary, she's done, done, done, finished. She
still has chips to cash in for what I've said
all along, and I just can't wait until she's I'm
like some third tier school Clay starts throwing out school names.
I'm like, don't don't upset our uc audience here with this.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think she's not bad. It's gonna sound funny. I
don't think they will give her Berkeley or u c
l A. I think UCSB is where she'll end up.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
But that's that's where I think this is.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
This is all heading for her just because the book
it did not it did not come across as as
what was intended. Also, I mean if she obviously didn't
write it, so I mean this it's all It feels
all very stage managed and structured. There's na Kamala's void
doesn't come across I look as a comologist, I have
to speak honestly about these things. I didn't get a
lot Kamala out of this book. I got a lot

(10:07):
of group think whatever people wanted to write about her.
That she's hired to try to create the next phase
for her, and she was a part. You cannot separate
yourself as Kamala from the lie, the embarrassing lie of
Biden's cognition and Biden's clear deterioration.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
And this is what Look at Clayton Cree. Jean Pierre
is doing the same thing right now.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
She's going, oh, I didn't know I could. Well, so
then you're just telling us you're an idiot. That's not
good either. I'm an idiot is not a good answer
really to very much of anything. And I'm just a really,
really shameless liar is also not a good place.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
They only have two options with this one.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
So this is why I think the Democrat Party has
got to go in a different direction on this.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
US is coming out today speaking of Kamala that the
DNC is still getting built from her campaign and still
paying it off. It's one reason the DNC doesn't have money.
It isn't talked about enough. Kamalas said, they didn't hear
my message. That's her argument. She spent buck one point
five billion dollars in one hundred and seven days.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
How much did did they actually pay Megan v. Stallion?
Wasn't that wasn't she the one who performed at one
of the right on contemporary They do the math here
contemporary hip hop culture? But what was the wasn't there
wasn't There wasn't a Meghan the style? Remember the performance
that was like I think it was ten.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Million dollars they paid or something.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
The math right now in my calculator, and I'm not
great at math. So if I got this wrong, you
guys can correct me. I think her campaign spent buck
Think about.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
This for a minute.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Fourteen million dollars a day.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
That's what is that?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Five hundred thousand dollars an hour for her entire campaign.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's for a candidate who should have as the vice president.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Pretty much universal name recognition.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Also, constant media coverage, constant media coverage, the ability to
move around a lot with government resources. I mean she
already has a secret service. Details she already has all
these things.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
So no, she was. She was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
And look to one of our callers, I think we
called in yesterday it is true that if Quoma becomes
a mayor of New York, I think Culoma's going to
run for president.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, look everybody who is a decent he may run
for president even if he doesn't become mayor of New York,
because what else does he have going on. That's how
much Kamala is spent every day, every hour.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Every hour, five hour, five hundred.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
And eighty four thousand dollars an hour for her one
hundred and seven day campaign. I mean, I don't even
understand how you could spend that amount of money. I mean,
obviously a lot of television ads. We'll talk about this
a bit more, but I do think that as the DNC,
And one of the consequences is the RNC has way
more money right now raised than the DNC because a

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as we said, about thirteen days out from the official

(14:46):
undertaking of the election day of New Jersey and Virginia
and in New York City, and we're discussing the decision
making of Curtis Sliwa. And I said as we went
to break one potential outcome is he actually wants my
Donnie to win. And if that is his goal, then
he is ensuring that because he thinks Mom Donnie is
going to be better than Cuomo. And yesterday I said,

(15:07):
maybe he's got some sort of agreement with Mom Donnie
and there is a role that he could play in
the Mom Donnie team, and he hasn't talked about it publicly.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I can see why Mom Donnie would not want that
out and why Curtis Sliwa would not want that out.
That would make some sense logically to me about the
choices that he is engaged in. Otherwise, he is just
ensuring that Mom Donnie is going to be the nominee.
And Trump was asked about this buck and cut seven.

(15:39):
Trump has kind of tiptoed around the New York City
mayor's race because I think he knows the more he
weighs in, the more he helps the people who shouldn't win,
because it creates an adversarial relationship with Donald Trump, which
is very helpful.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
But here's cut seven.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
A new poll shows that if Curtis Sleiva dropped out
of the New York mayoral race, then Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Would we trail mont Donnie by four points?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Would you call courteously what to drop out of the
race so that can happen.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, I looked at the polls and looks like we're
going to have a communist as the mayor of New York.
It'll be very interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
But here's the good news.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
He's got to go through the White House. Everything goes
through the White House, at least this White House it does,
and we'll have to see what happens. But if he
dropped out, he's not going to win and not looking
too good for Cuomo either. But maybe I don't know
if he dropped out, maybe Cuomo would have a little
bit of a chance, but not much because it looks

(16:36):
like the lead is it's not a great lead, but
it's it's big enough that he should be able to win. So,
you know, I don't know that I want to get involved.
It's really a question of would I rather have a
Democrat or a communist? And I would rather have a
Democrat than a communist.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I mean, this is where we are bucked, this is
where we are so also for anyone out there saying,
why are you guys, because we're seeing it, you guys
not having more faith in its Leewa's chances to win here,
I don't know, because Donald Trump also thinks that this
is time to live in reality. You know, you can,
you can get mad at the president if you like.

(17:14):
And he I'm sure he knows, Curtis. He's Trump obviously
has been a New York guy his whole life, although
now he's technically a Florida resident or I guess a
DC resident, but Florida is his home state. But he
sees this, I think along very similar lines to us. Really,
the I feel exactly the way he does about this.
I kind of rather have a Democrat than a communist
a democrat is not going to be great, and people

(17:36):
need to also get used to that. It's not like
if if Cuomo wins, there's gonna be some renaissance in
in the Five Boroughs and New York City is going
to be on the it just won't be absolutely insanely bad.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's like, would you rather step in gum or poop?
This is this, Thank you, Clay, this is the choice
for New York City.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
New York City vote Gum is frustrating, but you can
get your day poop.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
You're like, what does that smell?

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Like?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's following me around everywhere? Mom, Donnie is poop and
Cuomo is gum. And most people would rather step in
gum than step in poop if you have to make
that choice. And I think that's kind of a difference
between a democrat and a and a communist a little bit.
The communist is a poop and you can't ever get
away from it, and it smells and you walk in
and you're like, what is that smell?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's following me everywhere? That's Mom, Donnie.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well, the communists would say that they're rubber and you're
glue every yes day, but yes, I'll just point this
out that there's no great outcome here that Sleewa staying
in this race probably doesn't change anything. But if it
does come to a close enough election that it seems

(18:46):
as though there would be a difference maker by slee
would dropping out. There might be some people who are
upset by that. But I know that a lot of
people in this audience were saying, you're suppressing turnout. I'm
first of all, I can't vote, I don't live in
New York. I'm not suppressing anything. You're not suppressing anything.
We're amazing on the situation, and our commentary is right
in line with Donald Trump on this one because he
also understands the situation.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
And I think it's.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Always we always just tell you the truth and try
to live in reality. The situation for New York in
this election is not good. It's not good for the
city of New York, and I would also argue it's
not good for the country.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well, this is where is where we disagree.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
New York is still the economic engine for a lot
that matters to America as a whole, and New York
as our primary, as our largest and you know, most
well known, most visible in many ways, especially with the
fall of Hollywood. As you know, LA as the entertainment capitol,
which isn't you know now it's like Vancouver and Hungary.

(19:41):
I mean they're making movies everywhere, but LA New York
is our is our primary city. I mean, it is
our first city. And for it to you know, it's
one thing for San Francisco to go nuts. For New
York to go full San Francisco, if you will, in
its politics is something that I just think a lot
of people, a lot of good people are going to suffer,

(20:01):
which is which is frustrating, and it could have reverberations
that are broader.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Now I know you think it's done, maybe that I.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Think it's going to be a post So the negative
is Sleewa is guaranteeing that New York ends up with
a communist In the Wreckage Joy writing in the Wreckage
of New Yorker's Hopes and Dreams over here, you can
come on the show and explain why I'm wrong with this,
and he's probably going to say I might win. He's
not going to win. And to Buck's point, everybody should
go vote. You should never change whether you vote or

(20:30):
not based on anything that we say in this program,
I go vote every single time that I can in
my local jurisdiction. I want all of you to go
vote every single time that you can in your jurisdictions too.
We've said that a billion times. Okay, Now, I do
think if Mom Donnie wins, he and AOC become the

(20:51):
face of the Democrat Party. And I think it has
a benefit both nationally in the House and Senate next year,
which is far more important than who is the mayor
of New York City. Who controls the House, who controls
the Senate matters way more. I also think this helps
Elise Stephonic in a governor's race statewide in New York.

(21:12):
In fact, I bet if Elise Stephanic was on this
show right now and she answered the question, will it
help you to defeat Kathy hokeel if Mom Donnie is
the mayor, I think the answer is yes. So some
people are upset. Let's have some fun. Valentine, Valentine ee
New York City w R listener, he's mad at me.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Let's listen, Clay, you're such an ass.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
You really are.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Stay out of New York politics.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Why should we help the Democrats out Curtis should stay
in the race.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, she partly agrees with me.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Valentine says, I'm an ass, but she thinks Curtis should
stay in the race. The only reason Curtis should stay
in the race, Buck is if mom Donnie should be mayor,
and that actually helps in the New York governor's race
and the House and Senate nationwide. So maybe Valentine needs
to call back, am I a total ass? Or am

(22:19):
I an ass that half the time she is agreeing
with because there's arguments there. You go, you know, maybe
I'm just an ass or maybe I'm in jackass. Yes,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
The lessons learned component of this for the country are
that's variable to me.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I'm not sure that it's going to be what people think.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think it might just be a little bit more
of the same, which is New York continues to be dysfunctional.
So I think that there's a possible outcome here where
instead of improving, New York just continues slow deterioration. And
so instead of people saying, oh my gosh, look at
what's going on here, it's just another Democrat city being
run poor and so you don't necessarily get that benefit

(23:03):
of Okay, this place has lost his mind, I think
quietly San Francisco Democrats, based on actually what people who
listened from the Bay Area have written it to tell us,
the mayor is a little.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Bit more on it now than in the past, is
my understanding.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Jeffrey LORII, the new mayor of San Francisco, is actually
for San Francisco, right. I think he is a reasonable
rational choice that is actually making San Francisco better than
it was.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
But what I'm saying is it took a long time
to get there. I mean it took San Francisco having
a human feces map so that people could avoid areas
where there were so much human feces on the streets.
Everybody that is a real thing that happened, and people
that were spending time in downtown San fran even a

(23:51):
short time going through it, We're saying this place looks
like some dystopian healthscape of drug abusers passed out in
broad daylight, like drooling on them, and the whole thing.
It was just it was a mess. We don't want
New York to get there, so I am still hoping here. Look,
Cuomo winning is a better outcome than Mo'm Donnie winning.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Sleewer winning would be.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
The biggest shock election win I think by the numbers
of all time.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I mean, he's he would be coming back from just
what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
We got people who are fired up, Jacqueline and Brooklyn says,
I'm going to be responsible if Mo'm donnie wins, Jacqueline,
why will are you responsible?

Speaker 7 (24:34):
I'll explain to you, Clay, and I'm very disappointed in
what you have to say, and quite honestly, you can
hear it in my voice. I am thoroughly disgusted with
everyone that is saying the same thing that you're saying.
First question, before I make my statements, how come you
don't turn it around and take the opposite viewpoint that
if Cuomo were to drop out, that Curtis is the

(24:55):
one that actually has the best chance of winning this
election against Because let.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Me answer for that question first.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Because the data doesn't reflect that Democrats.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Are going to vote one.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
My point hold on, Democrats are going to vote for
a Democrat, So if Cuomo drops out, they don't suddenly
vote for a Republican. Cuomo dropping out would ensure that
Mom Donnie won.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
Okay, I have done a deep dive into every single
one of these polls that have been conducted. The majority
of those polls are Democrats over seventy five percent.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, that's the case in New York City though, right, Well, are.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
We completely going to ignore the Republicans, Conservatives and independents?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
I would say probably so, Jacqueline, do you think President
Trump and Ironmo.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
Was the best thing? Why did they not come out
and vote for him? And don't give me that excuse
that it was one hundred degrees on the primary day
because they had seven days of early voting. If they
thought Culomo was the best candidate to go out and
vote for him, his own party failed them. They kicked
him out as governor. They did not support him in
the primary. That's how we got stuck with the communists

(26:05):
running on the Democratic ticket.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Okay, So how would I you think I'm going to
help Mam Donnie get elected? What should I be saying
to ensure that Mom Donnie doesn't get elected.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Again?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You think that I'm helping Mam Donnie get elected, I'm
asking you what Okay.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
What you're saying?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay, but hold on? What should hold on? I want
you to be able to hold on.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I want you to be able to tell me what
I should be saying to ensure that Mam Donnie is
not elected.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
I'm going to tell you what xactly that I have
done a deep dive investigating all the information with regard
to these polls. Clone has the highest unfavorability rating among
his own people the Democrats that were polled seventy five
percent of those polled were Democrats forty seven percent. He

(26:55):
had the highest unfavorability rating among Democrats after who Adams,
who realized he didn't have a chance of winning and
he dropped out. The only way to stop this communist
is for Cuomo to come out and tell his supporters
he is leaving the race. He doesn't have any energy,
he doesn't want to be mayor. His own people kicked

(27:18):
him out as governor. They need to put their full
support against Curtis or else. Thank you all of you
for supporting a full time loser and Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, did we lose, Jacqueline, I think we might have
all right.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think that the chance of Cuomo dropping out to
help a Republican win. When Cuomo's in second place in
every poll is zero. That's that's part of the challenge.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Also, I don't believe that Andrew Cuomo could tell his voters,
many of whom are Democrats, go vote for the Republican
candidate Curtis Leiwa, and they would listen to him.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I don't think that's I'm Cuomo. I would say, why
would I drop that? Sorry fucking Cuomo. I would say
that I'm in second place and could he could still
win this election. Everybody he could win this election, but
he's going to drop and hope that there's a thirty
or forty point swing to Sliwa.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
I will say this, I appreciate Jacqueline believing that I
control the outcome. So funny, I appreciate Jacqueline telling me
that I control the outcome of the New York City
mayor's race.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I know we got a big audience at w R.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
If I could convince all of you to not vote
for Mom Donnie, I would. I'm going ahead and taking
the glass half full approach Buck, which is he's gonna win,
and it's going to actually be better for the rest
of the country.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
We'll just have to let New York City well underneath
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Speaker 1 (29:44):
We are making sense of all.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Of the big political stories going on out there, including
of course in New York City mayor's race. Will continue
to take your talkbacks and calls on that one. Just remember,
if you're angry, direct that anger at Clay. Also we
will tell talk about the Virginia governor's race, New Jersey
governor's race. Those are pretty big and for really, I

(30:07):
think a lot of us, it's about understanding these political
trajectories in advance of the midterms, which keep in mind,
once the midterms hit, if the Democrats are able to
take the House, they're just going to stop everything they
can in Trump's agenda as fast as they can. So
right now we have gotten a little spoiled. Actually, Clay

(30:27):
members I told the President this when we saw him
back in June, said, sir, my only complaint is that
you've done something so quickly and so efficiently, like securing
the border, that now if it doesn't happen right away,
there's this feeling of why hasn't this already happened?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Look at how quickly he secured the border.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, that's going to be a whole lot worse, or rather,
our disappointment is going to be a whole lot heavier
if Democrats take control of the House of the Senate.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I think the Senate's looking pretty good.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I haven't gone deep into that map said it's looking
pretty good, but it's really about the House and whether
Democrats can take control.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
What's also interesting, of course, is that we are already
seeing the beginnings of the narrative shaping efforts for.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I know it sounds a little crazy, but it's real.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Not just the midterm, but what is the future of
the Republican Party, the Democrat Party. Who's going to be running,
who takes over for Trump, who takes up the mantle
against Trump. I think we're going to be in for
a fascinating Democrat throw down on the primary side, which
is always fun because it's just the messier and nastier gets,
the more enjoyable it is.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
So that's fun for us.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
But this I thought was interesting, Clay, because we talked
about on this show how when Ron DeSantis was getting
a lot of attention because and I'm a Florida resident,
I think Ron is the best governor in America.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Still. Every time I see.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Anything coming from the Governor's mansion in Tallahassee any announcement
or anything going on the governor DeSantis is involved in.
I've almost just come to expect, Well, that's another good decision,
that's another excellent move. That's he I've never had this
before growing up in New York, where yes, we had
the Giuliani era, but there was always the Democrat City

(32:15):
Council and there, you know, there have always been the
political realities of living in a blue city versus living
in a place that has gone decidedly read. But remember
how we talked about how they're going to start to say,
and this ties into a theory you have about Trump
is the unique political talent of the era. They started
attacking DeSantis and they even did the when they thought
he was going to be running against Trump.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Uh, DeSantis is worse than Trump. Remember that? Oh yeah, Uh.
Here is the former White House.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Press secretary under uh oh it was Obama, right, Jensen
Boockey was the initial Biden.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Bidenoine Jean Pierre.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
She was State Department under Obama State Apartment spokesperson. Here
she is starting, You're gonna see more of this. Oh well,
Donald Trump, maybe Hitler.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
But jd. Vance is even worse than Hitler. Play clip
one I.

Speaker 8 (33:08):
Think the little mentorian candidate JD. Vance wants to be
president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going
on in the mind of his wife, like Okay, please
bring blank four times, we'll come over here, We'll save you,
and that he's willing to do anything to get there,
and that your whole itteration you just outlined. I mean,

(33:30):
he's scarier in certain ways, he's smarter in some ways,
and he's young and ambitious and ambitious and agile in
the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself
into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now,
what's also true, though, is jd Vance is not He's

(33:52):
in some ways goodish on paper if you like what
he believes in. I don't know, But I don't know
that he can take the whole movement with him.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
No, I don't so either.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
No Riz, it's got no Riz right, and he's got
He just is a little odd.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
They are already panicking Clay about this because.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Notice how she can't even really so now what's it
going to be? Jd is scarier in.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Essence because he's younger, he's got a more polished in
some ways, resume. I mean, if you want to go
down that pathway, he's a scarier, younger Trump is basically
where they're taking.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
This, Well, that's what that's the inevitable. They're going to
continue to argue. Again, I'm telling you, and some of
you think I'm crazy for saying this, as soon as
the midterms are over, when we get to January and
February of twenty seven, and believe me, the actual twenty
twenty eight presidential race will effectively start in January and

(34:51):
February of twenty twenty seven, they will start to say
Republicans will never be able to replicate Donald Trump for
the rest of our lives. They will start to acknowledge
that Trump is a unique and transcendent political force, even
the attacks here he's a scarier version of Trump. But
then also notice what they said, he has no riz.

(35:14):
Now there's most lets for everybody. Riz is shorthand for charisma.
I know this from the TikTok because the kids use this.
My boys, this would be the lingo of the kids.
They would say that somebody who has appealed to the
opposite sex has lots of riz, which has Buck just
said comes from charisma. So they are talking to an

(35:37):
audience that probably doesn't know what RIZ means and trying
to attack jd Vance for not having it. I think
actually the most pernicious part of this entire clip is
going after the fact that they're saying, oh, jd Vance's
wife could.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Never agree with him on these issues.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Because that just seems like, oh, we've got to go
save Usha Vance where they have three kids. I feel
like I probably no USh A Vance because and I
may be mispronouncing her name, but there are lots of
people Usha that went to law school thinking hey, I'm

(36:19):
maybe a little bit left of center. I would put
myself in this category. And then you have kids, and
you see the way we're around the same age. You
see the way the country is collapsing around you, and
you say, this is not the America I grew up in.
And I understand some of you rejected this argument, but
nineteen nineties Democrats, many of them, most of them would

(36:42):
be Republicans today. If you grew up in the eighties
and the nineties, go back and look at Bill Clinton
ninety two, you'll see these clips circulating every now and
then where Hillary Clinton is saying we can't have illegal
immigrants getting free health care in this country, where Joe
Biden is saying We've got a lot up violent criminals.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I mean, it's even even more stark than that in
some ways, Clay. In two thousand, the New York Times
editorial board, not an op ed, the actual editorial board
was writing scathing, scathing stuff about illegal immigration lowering the
wages of union workers and hurting black workers in this country,

(37:24):
you know, more disproportionately because of the competition from illegals
for wages that young, particularly young black men would be
able to get on the on.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
The open market, the beginning ladder of employment jobs in America,
driving down the costs.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
The New York Times tried that.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I mean, the New York Times would be an open
revolt if someone on the op ed page tried to
write that.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Look, I mean, this is why a lot of you
who listen to us now have had a similar political
trajectory in your life to where I am.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I think that JD.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Vance and Ushavance would be in that category where Look,
Democrats used to argue from a sane perspective. Now we
played that Abigail Spanberger crazy thing on trans kids.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
The Vances have three young kids.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
If you're a mom, regardless of what your politics are.
We read that Sam Ponder comment about her daughter in
high school, I mean in middle school playing against a boy.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
She's really good.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
By the way, where where is she these days? I've
never heard of this woman. She's a sportscaster person, super
successful at ESPN.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
They regularly came after her for basically having common sense.
She married a former NFL quarterback and they live in
New York City. And I don't think she has a
job in media now, which makes me think I should
reach out to her and see if she wants an
have a job in media.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Next thing I was going to say to you was Clay,
I think you might have to talk to this lady.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I mean what she wrote was well said, and I
think is representative of lots of moms out there, and
certainly the MAHA movement has wrapped up a lot of this.
There are many of you listening to us right now
who got kids in school, and during COVID you started
to see what they were being taught. That was one
of the maybe only nice things that came out of

(39:09):
COVID is suddenly moms and dads were walking through seeing
their kids on remote and they said, you're this is
what your lesson plans are, this is what you're being taught.
And alarm bells started going off, and a lot of
parents all over the country who suddenly got involved with
school boards and got involved with where their sons and
daughters are.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Going to class.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
And I think bush A Vance is again a Maha
mom ish where she's just looking around and saying, I
didn't sign up for crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
You know what's going to be tough for them too,
is when they're arguing that JD.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Vance is a white supremacist, that's going to be tough.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's going to be tough for a whole range of reasons,
including his wife and his children. His children are biracial
and his wife is obviously not white. But this is
a big part of Democrat lore that to be a Republican.
Now in the Trump there's this underpinning, there's this you know,
foundational sense of white supremacy. Then again, though they make that,

(40:08):
they make the anti they make the Nazi, which is
of course an anti Semitic argument as well about Trump.
Even though Trump's son in law is Jewish and his
grandchildren on one side or some of his grandchildren are Jewish.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
You know, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
They'll make the argument, even though on its face it's preposterous,
but they are going to be making a jd vance
supports white supremacy and is not and is married to
a non white person.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
It's not gonna register. They're gonna make that argument. But
there's actually a lot of Indian moms and dads out
there who are similar in age to Ushavn's and they're
looking around and they're saying, this is not the country
I grew up in either. And so I think again, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
a lot of moms and dads of roughly our age,

(40:53):
as they become parents, start to pay attention to the
culture that surrounds their kids, and they're saying, this is
not the culture that I grew up in. And so
what they're trying to do is bully. That's what this is.
That right, like Jensaki that I would say left wing
women are the predominant bullies in all of the political

(41:14):
world because they try to shame other women into thinking
for themselves and and argue, oh, you have you're a feminist,
right think them Yeah, right, of course, but you're a
feminist right, How in the world could you support Donald
Trump anyway they're trying to do it. I think it
actually repulses, as opposed to attracts, and I don't think
it's gonna work on it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I also think that people haven't really yet fully on
the other side, grappled with what JD. Vance represents, which is,
in so many ways, the completed aspiration of the American
dream comes from a difficult essentially, you know, low incomer, impoverished,

(41:54):
single parent.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Households not drug addicts.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Makes it on his own, joins the Marine Corps, goes
to Yale Law School, meets his beautiful, brilliant wife in
Yale Law school, is building a family. You know, he
loves his kids, carries his kids around with him, and
you know, all this is all really powerful stuff for
normal people, normal Americans to see.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
They go, yeah, yeah, I'm into that.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
He's not some you know, some guy who happened to
marry his third heiress Alah like John Kerry, and you know,
moved to a safe district and did all this other
stuff and tried and his whole life is about the
aspiration of self.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I think that there's a lot of JD.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Vance's story that is, it's not that it's overshadowed by Trump,
but we're still very much in the Trump era. But
that the transfer when Trump decides to be kingmaker, assuming
he does, which I think he will. For JD going forward,
I do think Maggot will be absolutely behind JD.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
And I think Marco Rubio is going to be a
vice president.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I think this all actually Think about how quickly that
rolls off of your mind, my mind, and think a
lot of a lot of you. What's the Democrat plan
is to see whether Kamala is such an imbecile that
she can't run again or not.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I mean Newsom in AOC as we said if I
were predicting, but.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
They would not.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
You will not hear a lot of Democrats say that
right now because they don't want to get on the
wrong side of it.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
I don't think that they know they're gonna have it.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
They're gonna have an absolute Donnie Brook when it comes
to who the nominee is. I think that I think
Gavin Newsome royal rumble style will throw everybody else out
of the ring and emerge as the nominee and.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
JD will be able to continue not only the machinery
of Trump and the MAGA movement. But he is ideologically
aligned with Trump. You can't have a Democrat who's ideologically
tying himself to Biden.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
That's a disaster.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
And you also know that they can't win on some
of these issues at the national level, So they're going
to have to try to play this game of I
say one thing to one audience, another thing to another audience.
You know, Gavin Newsom is going to be fifteen versions
of Gavin Newsom if he's the nomine Look, here's.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
The other thing on JD. And I think Marco will
be this too. They're not as bull in a china
shop as Trump. How often does Trump get attacked? Not
on the final We're gonna miss it. I think there
is an argument that the bull in a China shop
is the reason Trump is president, and that the JD
may be too disciplined to get as much attention on

(44:22):
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Speaker 3 (45:53):
We are joined now by Florida's Lieutenant Governor j Collins,
decorated Green Beret, former state Senator. He's speaking at the
University of Florida Turning Point Event tonight. And I know
you're the lieutenant governor, but there's kind of a job
opening going on right now at the University of Florida.
When it comes to head coach. I would imagine there'll

(46:14):
be a little discussion about that at the Turning Point event.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
You know.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
I think there just might be. It's a big deal
down in Gainesville. We'll see what happens. We'll see, all right, So.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
You are the lieutenant governor. Obviously we've had Ron DeSantis
on this program a ton over the years. He's done
a fantastic job. James uth Meyer has done a great
job as the Attorney General. Buck is a resident of
the state of Florida, so he is one of your
constituents right now, as you look forward to what's coming,

(46:45):
what can Floridians do to ensure that they end up
in the same good governance universe that they're in right now.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Well that's a great question, and I'll tell you what.
It comes down to a couple of things. One, you've
got to dig in and know who you're voting for.
You got to look at track record. It's not just
about saying that we're going to get things same, we're
going to do things. You got to get things done.
Say what you mean, mean what you say, follow up
with actions. Those are the things that matter. The thing

(47:14):
that has made Governor the stant is who he is.
He is a man of action. He says it, he
means it, he does it, and then he follows up
and holds people accountable. That is a great recipe for
good governance.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Lieutenant Governor Collins, appreciate you being here. And yes, I
am a proud New Floridian. Although I like to point
out that my wife is a born and raised Original Floridian,
So you know, I get a little bit of a
little bit of extra authenticity there now in South Florida,
Gator grad and her family actually lives in Tallahassee, so

(47:48):
I get to spend it.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'm one of the few people I know of who
doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
For the government of Florida but spends a fair amount
of time in Tallahassee and doesn't go to college there.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
But anyway, I'm on the property tax issue.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I want to ask you this, and I'm asking it
because I actually think there's a broader philosophical point here
that applies to people all across the country. The notion
that you can never really own your home and that
you have to continuously rent it from state and or
local government, I think is problematic. I think the notion

(48:19):
that you can't just own a place and stay there,
and that you are subject to the constant possibility of
price hikes, et cetera, is not where we should be.
And I know that Governor DeSantis really wants to get
rid of property tax. I know it happens at the
county and local level. Who's standing in the way of

(48:41):
this and how can we get this actually done?

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Yeah, so one hundred percent agree with you. The American
dream is to own your home, and you never really
own it if the government to take it from you.
So what we want to do is exempt homesteaded properties
from property tax, cut and dried. That's got to be
a ballot initiative. You know, we'll run We're going to
push the legislation to be done, to run it through
there and do all of our masks take care of this.

(49:07):
But it's going to have to go in the ballot.
People don't have to show up. They're gonna have to
check the box vote yes if they want that to happen.
But it's incumbent on us to do a good job
of presenting this. The governor is going to bring out
his approach with details here shortly, and when he does,
you know, I would love to come back on here
and hit his talking points what he's going to do.

(49:27):
But the fact of the matter is this. It's a
demnimus amount of the money dedicated it comes to property tax,
it's dedicated to homesteadit properties. Between six and eight percent
of most counties budgets. Those are the numbers we're seeing
right now. That's solvable, that's achievable to get the government
out of your hometown.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
This is what's so important I think I think ten
of governor people hear this and they say, oh, but
what about fire and police and like and what about schools.
What you're telling me is no that can be that
can be funded by other means.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Oh, one hundred percent. There are ways to make this happen.
That's a small amount of your property tax budget that
comes from homestead of properties. No one's going to cut
the cops, and no one's going to cut the firefighters.
No one's going to cut education. That will not happen
in Florida. We back those people, We stand by them.
We leave the nation in many of those things. So
what do you do. We're gonna measure a little bit
while we're going to go in and faffo as we

(50:21):
call it, or doze as a as a federal government
calls it calls it, and clean up our spending in
some of these municipalities. We're going to find ways to
save via how we purchase and then you know, we're
going to go in and make sure those numbers make sense.
It's got to go in the ballot. People got to
show up. This is completely doable.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I've been playing because it would give us to get
another leg up on these fancy Tennesseeans who all are
on place team here for what the best new red
state to move to for for people especially from the Northeast.
So you know, we need we need to stay competitive.
You're with Tennessee in the great state of Florida.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Go ahead, clich uh, Jay Collins, Lieutenant Governor of Florida
with this right now, speaking of competitive, when you see
that New York City may be poised to elect a
communist in mom Donnie as mayor, do you look around
and just expect We already know that there's been a
huge influx of New Yorkers to Florida. Buck is a

(51:17):
good example, but there are probably millions of people who
live in Florida now that had Northeastern upper you know,
grew up in the Northeast. Do you look at that
and say, well, we got a bunch more coming. Do
you pay attention to other states like that and know
that Florida is seen as a bastion of freedom.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Man with the conservative proving grounds of America. That's who
we are. America is that shining city on the hills.
And I think Florida's a lake, right we are shining
on that because we're leading the way, we're highlighting what's
white in America. The fact of the matter is this. Look,
I'm a one leg I'm a god hearing, gun loving
freedom defending one legged retired Green Beret. In twenty three years,

(51:57):
I worked with a ESU, the NYPD, the n y FD.
We buried friends across the globe because of the War
on Terror. Of all the cities in this nation, why
on earth does Mamdani have to be elected in that city.
We really have to learn this lesson face first. How
ridiculous is this. He's a watered down communist and we

(52:18):
got to learn this in this city that never sleeps,
in New York City. It's absolutely bonkers. It's wrong. And yeah,
you're going to see a stream of a caravan of
people come in flee New York, just like during COVID
because of his horrible leadership. He's going to get the state.
You know, there's work to do.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
We're speaking the Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins of Florida and
the lieutenant governor, as the name implies, you are second
in state leadership, are fantastic. Governor Ron desanti Is, who
you worked very closely with, is unfortunately going to be
termed out here. I know they had the no King's rally.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I don't know. Just santisis King of Florida. Sounds nice
to a lot of us. But the rules are the rules.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
But you, sir, would seem to be in a fantastic
position to pick up the scepter and continue the legacy.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Can you speak to that? Are you thinking about a
governor's run?

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Yeah, Well, think a long and hard about this. We've
took taken a very methodic approach to this. I had
kind of a three phased approach. You know, it's a
family decision. You've got to make sure that my kids
and my wife, the things I care about most are
straight and ready, that the support structure around that, and
my local community is prepped and ready. And then it
comes down to leadership. After who I believe is the goat,

(53:31):
our greatest governor in the state's history, frankly, probably the
greatest governor in our nation's history. He's amazing, He's done
an incredible job. Well, my approach, my type of leadership
be what's best for Florida. It's a wee thing, not
a me thing. And I'll tell you we really finalized
kind of our approach here and we're chewing on what
are the decisions is going to be. So I would
say stay tuned. We lost the information to share here.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Suonish soonish.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
He says, Okay, what do you think Rond de Sants
is going to do next? He's been obviously an incredibly
successful governor. As Buck said, he is term limited out,
so come next year his tenure as governor will be over.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
What do you expect to see him do?

Speaker 5 (54:11):
Well, I'll tell you what. The one thing I know
about him, he's a conservative juggernaut, right. He is brilliant,
he is hardworking. No matter what he does, he's going
to make a difference because he's going to lead. He
knows what matters, he fights for it, and then people
get alongside him. You know, there will be a lot
of opportunities. Not really sure where he's going to go yet,

(54:31):
but I'll tell you I've bring to some popcorn and
watch because he's going to do something pretty amazing. I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Well, we wish you well at the University of Florida
at the Turning Point event tonight in Gainesville. We know
we have a lot of Florida Gator fans listening. I
hope at some point they end up with a football
coach again because he's a Tennessee fan. I'm not that
ecstatic for them to get another football coach. I'm fine
with them not having one, but Luchai a governor. We
appreciate the time, good luck at the event tonight. We're

(54:58):
glad you're.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
Doing itppreciate y'all. Thank you. Event's going to be great,
and God bless both of you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Thank you, sir, you too.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
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