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October 24, 2025 59 mins

Reasons for Optimism

Clay and Buck celebrate record highs in the stock market, crediting President Trump’s economic policies and noting that inflation came in lower than expected, fueling optimism. They highlight falling interest rates, predictions of multiple Federal Reserve rate cuts, and a four-year low in gas prices, framing these trends as signs of a strong Trump economy. The discussion also touches on mortgage rates hitting yearly lows, boosting confidence for homeowners and investors.

The conversation shifts to lifestyle and seasonal topics, with Clay ranking October as the best month of the year thanks to sports like the World Series, football, and fall festivities. Buck counters with his love for January in Florida, sparking a lighthearted debate about weather, vacations, and Halloween traditions—including Clay’s neighborhood “parent treats” and costume plans.

Dumbest Take

Clay and Buck tackle a headline-grabbing sports scandal involving NBA legend Chauncey Billups, alleged mafia ties, and rigged high-stakes poker games. They dissect Stephen A. Smith’s controversial comments linking the FBI investigation to Trump, then play FBI Director Cash Patel’s fiery rebuttal dismissing those claims. Clay and Buck explore the broader implications of organized crime infiltrating poker circles, referencing pop culture hits like Rounders, 21, and Molly’s Game.

TX Rep. Chip Roy Calls out Corruption 

The ongoing government shutdown, skyrocketing Obamacare premiums, and his push for healthcare reform through expanded Health Savings Accounts and direct primary care. Roy also champions bipartisan legislation to ban congressional stock trading, citing widespread public support and the need to eliminate conflicts of interest. He then previews his campaign for Texas Attorney General, emphasizing battles against fentanyl trafficking, Soros-backed prosecutors, and radical Islamist networks allegedly targeting Texas communities.

Experience Matters

Letitia James pleading not guilty to mortgage fraud charges, sparking debate over the weaponization of the justice system and accountability for public officials. Clay and Buck question her rhetoric and emphasize the need for equal application of the law.  Next, the conversation shifts to New York City’s mayoral race, where Hakeem Jeffries officially endorses Zohran Mamdani, the far-left candidate who defeated Andrew Cuomo in the primary. Clay and Buck analyze the implications of Mamdani’s progressive housing policies, arguing that rent control and heavy regulation will worsen affordability and drive high-income earners—and tax revenue—out of the city. They contrast this with Florida’s market-driven approach to housing and governance, highlighting why states like Florida, Texas, and Tennessee are attracting wealth and residents.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome in. It is Friday. Rejoice.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
We are going to have an awesome day with all
of you. We appreciate all of you across the country
on our five hundred and fifty five some odd stations
hanging out. You can also find us every single social
media platform out there. And soon you'll be able to
watch three hours of the show. And I'm already I'm
not gonna lie. I'm a little bit nervous about that.
We got to make sure the lighting's decent because three

(00:55):
hours on camera is a long time on camera. But
you will soon have the ability to hang out with
us on camera as well, and We have got a ton.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Of different news stories out there.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Our good friend big Tish Letitia James has pled not
guilty to her mortgage fraud charges. We will play some
of that for all of you, and we've got a
bunch to dive into. But I thought I would start
with a very positive thing, because I do think, as

(01:28):
we were talking about yesterday, and as we have talked
about quite a few days, this is one of the
greatest years in the history of our nation. If you
are saying, as President Trump is just making everything better,
and as I am talking to all of you, buck,
we have set another all time record in the stock market.

(01:50):
It was a very long ago April in fact, that
we were in a position where everybody out there was
panicked and they were saying, oh my goodness, with these tariffs,
the American economy may collapse. There's no telling how bad
things could get. Run for the hills, There's no reason
to be in any way optimistic about the fate of

(02:12):
the country. Since then, the S and P five hundred
has risen two thousand points. If you listen to us
in April of twenty twenty five, not that long ago.
I remember it well because we said maybe some of
the crew can pull it. Hey, stay calm. If you
happen to have a little bit of extra cash, now
is it time, Probably over the course of the next

(02:35):
few years that you'll look back and say, boy, I
wish I had well. Your four oh one K is
at a record high, your pensions are at record highs.
Never in the history of the nation has the stock
market been in a better position than it is right
now as it is surging. And one reason is surging,
buck is because inflation. It's like a record scratch. Stop

(02:59):
me if you've heard this before or came in below
what the experts were anticipating. This is CNBC's Rick Santelli
just a few hours ago as the newest numbers were released.
That has helped you propel the stock market to a
new high. And by the way, I don't know what
do you think seventy percent sixty five percent of people
listening to us right now are exposed to the stock

(03:20):
market in some way through four oh one can maybe higher.
Four oh one k's private stock, you know, company stock.
That's a fair approximation, you think, buck.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, certainly, yes, but also companies. A lot of people
work for companies that the public stock has a huge
determination in investment and jobs. Yeah, so if you know
if IBM is getting crushed, IBM's cutting jobs. So whether
you have a lot of stock or not, these things matter.
And by the way, there are people who sell the
IBM or who are down down the supply chain. So

(03:53):
the market is an imperfect indicator, but it is a
broad indicator of what's going on in the economy, and.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
In times six months or a year ahead of where
the economy can be, because it is a forward looking mechanism. Okay,
with that in mind, also, we are starting to see
we hit new yearly lows on thirty year mortgages, fifteen
year mortgages. There now is an expectation next year that
the FED is going to cut rates three different times,

(04:21):
meaning that overall borrowing costs are going to come down.
But here is CNBC's Rick Santelli giving everyone the data
that would help to create a new stock market high.
This happened a few hours ago. Cut one.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Here's our length. But coming out September eight on the
Consumer Price Index, headline number up three tents one tenth,
cooler than both rearview mirror and what we're expecting and
If we look at the stripping out of food and
energy known as CORE, it comes in also a bit
less than expected, up two tents. We're expecting up three cents.

(04:54):
Our last look was up three tenths. Here's the moneyball
numbers here over year eight percent, and even though it's
less than the three point one we're expecting, it's one
hundred and two point nine. And after all, it's got
a three handle. And if we look at CPI year
over year ex food and energy, it also comes into
three percent. We're also expecting three point one, but last

(05:17):
look was three point one.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
So it cooled a bit.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
So we're seeing interest rates move down and stocks move up.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
That's a good combo. By the way, interest rates down,
stocks going up. That is the Trump economy starting to
take wind and lift. And again I understand people out
there who are still very frustrated over the continued increase
of prices that we saw during the Biden administration. Things
still feel more expensive to you than they should. Trust me,

(05:45):
I feel it too, but positive also buck four year
low in gas prices and that has helped Trump I believe,
to feel comfortable putting more pressure on Russia as it
pertains to their gas prices because Trump has got a
very good relationship right now with Middle East oil producing country.
So all of that very positive as we get ready

(06:06):
to roll into a weekend. Wanted to make sure that
I can textualize that, and we started off Friday on
a good foot.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Look at that, getting everybody in the right kind of
mood for a beautiful fall weekend. Mister Clay Travis, the
advance of some of us who are adults will be
dressing up for Halloween, which I assume you will be this.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Year, or is that not happening.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, we're moving, So the Laura Travis Halloween party that
has been in existence for the last decade or so
is not happening in normal fashion. But I suspect that
my wife will have something that she has planned for
us to be wearing. As you know, she gives out
I think I've talked about this before on the air.
Every Halloween in my neighborhood, all this I mean, I

(06:51):
don't know, there's probably a thousand kids that are sure
or treating in my neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's super packed.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Parents also walk around and some houses give out parent treats,
and a parent treat might be alcoholic in nature. We
have for the last decade or so, Buck given out
fireball shots on the Travis Front porch for twenty one parents. Parents. Yeah,

(07:16):
we are not getting kids. We're not getting eight year
olds wasted. No, this is parents only. And occasionally my
wife will will request an ID because there are sometimes
teenagers that will that will decide to be taking around
their nieces, nephews or maybe little brothers or sisters and
try to try to take advantage of the largeess here.

(07:37):
But I believe that will be going on, and usually
my wife is dressed up when she's passing that out.
So yes, look, I think Halloween is one of the
most fun times a year. Fall October. If you made
me power rank my months, I think October is the
best month of the year. That would be my power ranking.
I don't know what month you would go to.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Overall.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I just think I'm a sports guy. October the best
sports month. Weather treat leaves changing. Halloween. It's my favorite
month of the year. May a second, by the way,
all my power rankings uh so, uh but but but
my favorite.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Month of the year.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And yes, there's a lot of reason for optimism across
the nation, right now.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
As a New Yorker, I would back your October, but
just because I love fall and the temperature and the leaves.
I can't say that it's because I watch much of
the football, but.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
As not just the football, buck.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You got the World Series and the Major League Baseball
playoffs going on, and uh so it's kind of like
everything coming together. I'm glad to learn of those things.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, but also uh because I had forgotten that the
World Series was going on. But then there's it's a Floridian.
You gotta love January the most.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You gotta love.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You cocky Floridian because you just want to how much
time do you spend now that you live in Miami
on your iPhone just occasionally flicking over to check and
see what the weather is in New York when it
is January. This is what Floridians love to brag about.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Like, oh, what's the temperature where you.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Live right now? Not just weather Clay. I go through
Instagram and I check out all these shmows all over
the country who don't live in South Florida in mid
January with a big itchy wool sweater and a ski
parka and a hat with maybe another hat trudging through snow.
That's when Florida feels like a magical place. That's when

(09:26):
all of a sudden, So January is the best month
in Florida. I would say, I can't say December because
I don't like our Christmas celebrations down here as much
as I cause snow.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And every year it to be like super warm and
have like snow globes out and stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, you get, you get.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
The lights around the palm trees is not as exciting
to me as the stuff you'll see in the colder
parts of the country. So I have to give the
month of December to the more temper the you know,
the seasonal.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Places across the country.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
But once January hits and you're done with your New
Year's celebration and the Christmas and the Hanakah holidays and
everything else, are you walking around in sandals because US
Floridians are. How about August? I really, you know, not
as good. If you like melting all the time, it's fantastic.

(10:18):
If you like the constant feel of your clothing being wet,
then South Florida in August is great.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So I will say there are very few feelings better.
I don't like cold weather, and I understand a lot
of you live in cold weather. My wife likes. My
wife grew up in Detroit, so there are very few.
I always say, it's not a vacation unless you put
on fewer clothes when you get off the plane than
you had on when you got on the plane, right,
I always have, right, Well, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'm not even a ski guy.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, I understand people like that, and ski villages can
be fine. But if you told me, hey, you can
go to a warm beach or a ski village, I'm
picking warm beach every time. Now, my family doesn't always agree,
so sometimes we up out there. Look, I'm a good Lottsville,
Tennessee kid. Nobody around me knew how to ski, like,
so you know I'm not. Oh no, I'm just scrolling

(11:08):
through and catching up on Twitter, and I see that
they shared my I was all in an optimistic mood,
and then I find out that my senior class photos
have just been shared by the Clay and Buck Twitter feed.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Here and have you seen this yet?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm thirty minutes behind on social media and this thing
is going to go everywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh, oh, Clay's hair. If you haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Clay's hair was very much what I was describing as
the worst nineties haircut for men, which was very common.
I cannot lie. I think my older brother had it
for a while. There was a period of time, so
it's fun to take a little throwback. We also got
a lot of commentary on the best song of the
eighties because that's and that's a fun Friday one. So
if you haven't sent that in yet, you can email us,

(11:52):
send us your takes on that, give us your talkbacks
on that really interesting announcement.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Clay.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'm gonna come back to here in a second because
the government shutdown is actually starting to bite some people.
I mean, the government shutdown is now has to gone
on long enough that they're running out of money for
things including paying people who should be getting paid, like
our troops. And Trump revealed something that was really interesting

(12:19):
earlier today about that, and I will dive into that
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
Look.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Gold can go up, gold can go down, but if
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and it has proven for a long time to be
a really important part of diversifying your holdings and your portfolio.
Behind the price increased this gold gold this year is
a purchasing effort by central banks around the world because

(12:54):
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Speaker 2 (14:03):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. The fallout continues.
This is not on my proverbial bingo card. If you
had told me, Hey, what are the odds that FBI
director Cash Patel and ESPN sports commentator Steven A. Smith

(14:24):
are going to be engaging in a war of words, Buck,
I would have said, I don't really see that coming.
I don't see that very likely. So yesterday this is
maybe I think you know, we did the debate recently.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Sometimes has takes where I say, you know what, I
may disagree. This is one of the dumbest takes I
think Stephen A. Smith has ever had, and yesterday you
called it out.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, I just said, if he's gonna talk politics now,
I was in my world and you should have stuck
to sports on this one. Not a good take, all right,
So here is cut ten this is what was said yesterday,
and now FBI Director Cash Patel is firing back. But
I want you guys to hear first again. This has
to do with the arrest and the NBA, the mafia.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
The gambling related fraud that was announced and uncovered yesterday
by the FBI as part of the arrest. This is
what Stephen A. Smith said in response to that cut in.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
How many times, for one incident after another, have I
said Trump is coming?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
He's coming.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
I'm wenna say it on national television again. Bad Bunny
is performing at the super Bowl, and all of a
sudden you hear in Ice is gonna be there looking
to engage in mass deportations the super Bowl, disrupting things.
Big night for the NBA when Beyonna put on a
show that has now been smeared because we're talking about

(15:44):
this story.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
But I've been.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
Saying He's coming, He's coming, because in his eyes, folks
try to throw him in jail. In his eyes, he's innocent.
They try to put me behind balls. I'm getting everybody,
he's not playing and so this and and a lot
of people's eyes. Talk to people in the NBA, talk
to people in the NFL, talk to people in the
world of sports. They think this is like the tip

(16:06):
of the iceberg. These are the kind of words that
are coming out of people mouth. It's not a surprise.
It's very disheartening. It's very concerning. We don't know where
this is going to go. But this is just the
tip of the iceberg. Everybody's been embraced themselves.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, that is a ludicrous take. This investigation has been
going on for multiple years. I'm betting that Cash Ptel's
response is something of that nature. But here it is
FBI Director Cash Pateel responding.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
To stephen A.

Speaker 9 (16:36):
Stephen A.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
Smith, a sports commentator, suggested that this was revenge from the.

Speaker 11 (16:42):
President for all the kind of left wing activism of
the NBA.

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Your response to that, I'm the FBI director. I decide
which arrested conduct in which not to conduct. That may
be the single dumbest thing I've ever heard out of
anyone in modern history. And I live most of my
time in Washington, DC. It's right up there with Adam Schiff.
We arrest people for crimes.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Wow, Cash Battel, that's Laura Ingram show Fox News last night.
I am presuming with that investigation an interview with Cash
Battel about the investigation. Here's what I would say, Buck,
because I was on with Hannity last night, our buddy
Sean Hannity, who many of you are going to hear
after this, and he asked me about this. Here's where
I somewhat agree. I think this is a tip of

(17:24):
the iceberg man. I said this on the show.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
First question, I asked you yesterday we were getting into this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
The more I think about it, did I talk about
it on the show yesterday very much. I am not
a good poker player. I do not do math fast
enough candidly to be able to analyze odds in real time.
Some guys and gals have brains that are basically just
calculators and something a card gets flipped over and they

(17:51):
can immediately say, all the great poker players can, oh,
my odds have changed by four percent. I'm going to
adjust on the fly.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
Here.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
What they doing was they were using an X ray machine.
And I wanted to play this because I don't think
we played this yesterday. This is a professional poker player, Buck,
who said two years ago on a podcast, Hey, this
guy Chauncey Billups seventeen year NBA veteran NBA Hall of Famer.
These games are not on the up and up. These

(18:22):
are rigged poker contests. And before we play this, Buck,
I would just ask you this, do you think if
the Mafia went through the trouble of doing X ray machines,
of chandelier cameras, of all this different technology to rig
poker games, do you think they're only doing that with
Chauncey Billups or they are doing this all over the country.

(18:43):
And I've been invited to some of these high end
poker games. I haven't gone because I know I'm the fish,
like I'm the guy who's gonna get taken advantage of it.
I'm not good enough at poker. I don't want to
just give my money to these guys playing poker. Here
is a professional poker player saying Chauncey Billim wasn't even
a very good player, and he was making decisions that
make no sense when you look at the cards on

(19:05):
the table, and somehow he was winning all these hands,
and all these poker players were talking about this game's
not on the up and up.

Speaker 12 (19:13):
Listen, it was all built around Chauncy Phillips. And I
had heard about the game, and the person who told
me about it was like, look, I know the game runners.
I'm telling you one hundred percent this game is on
the up and up. And I was like, well, I
know a lot of the people that are involved, and
I'm telling you one hundred.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Percent that it is not on the up and up.

Speaker 12 (19:35):
And you know, we kind of went back and forth,
and I agreed that, like, I just wasn't gonna go
play it, but I had some friends who went and
played it, both in LA and in Vegas, and it obviously,
like was for sure confirmed to be cheated, Like people
who clearly didn't even understand the rules of no Limit
hold him are just like jamming hundreds of big Linds in.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
With like a gutty and then only the pros are losing.
I don't even know that means two years ago. Okay.
So what he was saying is, you know, everything is probability,
and a gutty is like, hey, I've got a gut
instinct about what the next card that's going to pop
up is, and if you just go on gut instinct,

(20:22):
overtime probability is going to win out. So he was saying,
I mean it would be the equivalent if you play
blackjack and you have eighteen and you're like, man, I
just got I got a really good feeling that three
is going to be the next one up, and you
hit and a three hits and people are like, you know,
you're doing statistically improbable things, and they keep happening over time,

(20:43):
and these professional poker players are sitting there like, wait
a minute, this should never be happening. This is two
years ago that guy was saying this publicly. That is,
by the way, Matt Burkey, a pro poker player.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, I just think that one, yeah, the mob is
doing this more than in what we've already heard about.
I would I would make a bet on that yes.
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
You're gonna see a lot more of this come to light.
I also lack the I don't know if it's the gene,
the predilection, the I don't enjoy like like card.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Games like this. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I know this has been a thing that people
like to do. I don't understand how it's like I
really just mean this. I don't understand how it is
fun impolitely lack.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I I really like it.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I think sitting at a table with cards in my
hands and losing money because I absolutely would lose money
because I don't know what I'm doing. Is I don't
understand how that's. This is why Vegas for me, when
I go to By the Way, I like Vegas. I
just like the food, the people, the shows. You know,
I'm I don't do the the the all the different

(21:54):
gambling stuff when I'm there. I also think it's kind
of tells you a lot that in these places the uh,
they can shut you down because you're doing too well.
They can just say they can say you're counting cards. Well,
that's just another way of saying you're doing too well
and they don't want you there because statistically you're supposed

(22:14):
to be losing money. Right, So again back to the
card game component of this. Even if you get on
a hot streak, if you start to do too well,
I mean, unless I'm missing something, that casino can just
be like, we think your card counting are out, You're
out of here, right.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, no they don't. I mean, look, great movie that is,
you know, bringing down the House. I don't remember what
it was called. Great book about the MIT card counters
in blackjack. If you just want to be entertained with
a fun book. They just figured out that they could
count cards, and there's a relatively rare period of time

(22:49):
in blackjack when the cut, when the decks are actually
in your favor, and basically it has to do with
there's more face cards left. And again, I'm not a
card counter because I'm not good enough at Matt and
my brain doesn't work that way. Now, you're not an
MIT math genius who have figured this out. It would
be it would be great to be an MIT mat genius.
I am not a math genius or even probably like

(23:10):
a community college math genius, much less an MIT mat genius.
But yeah, you're right, Like they get caught every now
and then, and you can be banned from a casino now.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
But what I'm saying is getting caught, you're not actually
doing anything other than what's in your between your own ears.
With cardcount well, and they just they just can make
that claim. Sometimes there are teams because the player will
be getting signaled. It's actually a really great book, Bringing
down the House, I think is what it's called. And

(23:41):
these guys won millions and millions of dollars, and yes,
like what they'll do is monitor your bets and say, yeah,
this is card counting, like it's irregular, the way that
they're putting money on the table and everything else. The
movie version of this, by the way, is twenty one,
and it's pretty entertaining. But the book I Surrounders or
twenty one a better movie. Uh, well, Rounders is a

(24:03):
poker game. Twenty one is a blackjack game. We're gonna
we're creating separate film categories from poker and black No.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
No, I mean I think Rounders, like poker is in theory,
there is no house advantage on poker, right like you
could be and said the which is a better movie.
I think rounder is a better movie by far. Better
movie is actually a pretty good movie.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Because as soon as I read this yesterday about the
Chauncey billups all this stuff that's going on with this
big you know, FBI announcement of the fraud and everything else,
was the Molly's Game movie with Jessica Chastain, which some
of you, yea, I.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Haven't seen that. When you were talking about that one yesterday,
you haven't seen you know, I feel like you definitely
need to see that.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Wind There was a tractive lady who said something very
I'm sold very high end, very high end poker game.
She runs very high end poker games, and big surprise,
the mob is like this is not okay.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
She gets into try.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
There was a period you may find this to be true,
although streaming has altered the trajectory of this a bit.
Laura and I saw every movie, and then we had kids,
and there was like nine years where we just didn't
go to the movie theater very often. So there's about
a nine or ten year gap there where my boys
were really young and streaming had not become the case
where you could easily get every movie at home nowadays,

(25:23):
Like with you guys like I don't know what are
movies in theaters for three weeks and then you can
basically watch them whenever you want.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I used to only carry and I used to sit
and when we're done for the day. Very I'm very
I share this with people. I just think that you know,
one it depends how big your house is. Our house
is not very big. But one TV should be enough,
like there's a TV that you go to to watch.
I know people get very mad at me for this,
very mad at me, but I just think one TV

(25:51):
is enough. But we had our one TV in the
living room and we would watch at night. And now
Clay that I'm fully into the into the parent thing.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Here.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
What I find is that when I'm done changing diapers
and onesies and and all that sort of stuff, cleaning
up after dinner, sometimes I just want to sit in
the couch and the baby's gone to bed, I just
want to sit on the couch in silence, just like
just be there, just be present and not have to
do anything for like ten minutes, for like ten minute.

(26:21):
We need to grab the Joe Flacco clip that went
viral yesterday. Joe Flacco is now the quarterback of the
Cleveland Browns, and I think a lot of people out
there will understand it. He's got I think five kids
or something now and sorry. He was the quarterback Cleveland Browns,
now the quarterback in Cincinnati Bengals. And they said, hey,
is it hard your family's still in New Jersey's like,
is it hard you know, living away from them? And

(26:42):
he said, he paraphrased, he said, you know, when I
was a younger guy, I would go out to a
restaurant or a bar, and I would see a guy
sitting there by himself having a meal or having a drink,
and I would think, man, that guy must be the
saddest person on the planet. And he said, now he's like,
I am that guy out at the bar. I got
to order the restaurant. He's like, I gotta tell you,

(27:03):
it's it's it's pretty amazing. Oh it's amazing. Oh my,
I didn't know about We gotta find this clip. I
just had, like this clip when I visited you in Nashville,
I just had or you know, we we we met
up before we went to Woo. I sat at a
place in the gulch, sat alone at the bar. It's magnificent.
I just ordered exactly what I wanted. No one bothered me.

(27:24):
It was just so nicely anything.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I will tell you, when you become a dad or
a mom and you got big families everywhere and you're
out and you eat one meal, you're like, man, food's
cheap because you're not paying for five or six people
or whatever. That Also, I did not get hit with
pureade peas anywhere during this experience, so it was interesting. Uh,
we'll grab that clip because I think there's probably a
lot of dads and moms out there that are going
to nod along with Joe Flacco in the meantime. Look,

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Speaker 3 (29:06):
Welcome back into clay end But Congressman Chip Roy joins
us now from the great city of Texas. Congressman, appreciate
you being with us, sir.

Speaker 13 (29:15):
Great to be honest. Always hope you guys are doing
well on this great Friday.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, we're We're in pretty good spirits, pretty good shape
over here. I think the country overall is although this shutdown,
it's starting to feel more real to people as paychecks
are getting missed and we got the Washington Post headline
here average Obamacare premiums set to rise thirty percent. Congressman,

(29:40):
what the heck is going on here? I thought Obamacare
was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Make it all cheaper.

Speaker 13 (29:46):
Yeah, I mean, there's so much going on to talk about.
I mean, the short version is this, we did our job.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
We passed the.

Speaker 13 (29:51):
Bill that would fund government through Thanksgiving, right, I mean
we pass that.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Over a month ago in the House.

Speaker 13 (29:57):
Chuck Schumer, for very political purposes, has chosen and you're right.
I mean the President, God bless them, and russ Vote
the head of the Omb. They cobble together money to
pay our troops at the midpoint of October, but this Friday,
we're going to hit the end of the month. I
think we can scrape a few more bucks together to figure.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Out how to pay the troops. But it's going to
get finned. And you got TSA, you got the border patrol.

Speaker 13 (30:20):
And they're doing all of this for no reason other
than political games.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
There's no other reason to do it. Right.

Speaker 13 (30:26):
They're not objecting to our spending money for something. They're
not picking a righteous fight. What they're saying is they
have nothing to run on, so they want to try
to pick a fight on healthcare and say that that's
what we're going to win the election.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
On next year. But you just pointed it out. They
give up the joke. The fact is the subsidies that.

Speaker 13 (30:45):
They're seeking four hundred billion dollars to go straight to
insurance companies. It gives up the game that, as The
Washington Post said two weeks.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Ago, you quoted the Post.

Speaker 13 (30:56):
The Post said, the Affordable Care Act has been anything
but affordable, because all it is is a failed system
of giving money to insurance companies, allowing them to get
rich while hardworking Americans pay more for premiums and get
less coverage, get less care from doctors, and fewer options.
So the President's got alternatives, and we'll talk about those alternatives.

(31:18):
I released a whole plan for healthcare last January, called
the Case for health Care Freedom, with expanded health savings accounts,
expanded direct primary care, more options for people to go
to health sharing ministries, the ability to drive prices down.
But Democrats don't want to talk about that. They want
to play games. And I'll just say this, they're holding
the government hostage, but they've been holding the American people

(31:40):
hostage to a broken healthcare system for a decade, and
now they're trying to do it for political purposes.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
We're talking to Congressman Chip Roy, big Texas fan. Unfortunately
for him, his wife's Texas A and m Aggie's are
having a better season right now. We may get to
that eventually, but Congressman, I'm curious you have been focused
on in insider trading, and this is something that gets
both Buck and myself fired up about you know, we

(32:05):
just had the scandal about insider trading in the NBA.
You know players what they're going to play or not,
all those things. I get why that's a crime. I'm
actually way more interested in why everybody in Congress has
incredible timing like Nancy Pelosi. I means he's basically Warren Buffett.
Isn't it kind of a no brainer to not allow

(32:28):
congress people to engage typically in individual stock trading?

Speaker 1 (32:32):
And why does this not happen?

Speaker 13 (32:34):
Yeah? I mean, look, this is one of those things
that polls at something like ninety percent. Clay and I
think Republicans have been missing the mark, not jumping aboard.
I mean I introduced legislation five years ago on a
bipartisan basis. There are multiple bills we spend this summer
kind of cobbling together and merging those bills together into
a package that.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Now has bipartisan consensus.

Speaker 13 (32:57):
And I don't say that very often, right, There's not
that many things that we agree on on a bipartisan basis,
but we've got I think twenty Republican co sponsors about
sixty Democrat co sponsors, and Republicans have just been a
little slow to catch up to the argument.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Look, I think it's pretty simple.

Speaker 13 (33:13):
You shouldn't be trading stocks and making money for yourself
based on information that you have at your disposal. But
even put that aside, just straight up, are you able to.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Make good decisions?

Speaker 13 (33:27):
For example, in the House Judutionary Committee as I serve
on about whether to break up companies right and anti trust,
or whether to do something with insurance.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Companies at a hospital corporations.

Speaker 13 (33:38):
With healthcare reforms, or maybe you're in armed services and
you're appropriator and you're voting on defense contracts. How can
you be doing that in good faith if you're getting
richer based on the policy choices you're making. Because we
now live in a corporate Cronius type environment where massive
federal contracts are at play.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Let me give you an example, Southos Airlines.

Speaker 13 (34:01):
I was giving them trouble for their mask mandates and
all of their requirements on their flight attendants and their pilots.
And you know what they told me, Well, we might
risk the two hundred million dollar government contract that we have.
That's the world we live in, and I'm sick of it,
and we shouldn't be trading stocks. So my advice to
Republicans is put this bill on the floor, let's vote

(34:22):
on it, because I don't think Republicans can vote against it.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Well, I would love to see some accountability on this
one to Congressman, but it feels like this is one
of those that somehow always doesn't really get done at
the eleventh hour. I think we all could take some
guesses as to why that is. I think some members
really like being able to outdo a lot of professional

(34:46):
stock pickers for various hedge funds and such. But let
me ask you what is the current because I think
this is important.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
The current rules are what.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
For picking stocks for a member of Congress?

Speaker 12 (34:58):
What?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Because there was a big searche to do something about
this a decade ago and then they passed some water
down law, So what are the rules right now?

Speaker 13 (35:08):
The rules right now are you pretty much can do
anything you want, you just have to report them. And
it is those increased reporting requirements a little over a
decade ago in the Stock Act that that UH was
that that was what has caused the environment where I
can get the.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Where we have the information.

Speaker 13 (35:28):
At our disposal to UH tell us that we need
to have these stock trading bands in place.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
So uh.

Speaker 13 (35:36):
I think that helped us. But we need to put
requirements that limit your ability to trade. There's no reason
you shouldn't be in a broadly traded fund or you
shouldn't just be able to put it in a uh,
you know, a simple uh you know fund that has
no tie to a specific stock, and then just get
out of the business. And in my colleagues who say, well,

(35:57):
we have a right we should be able to trade. Look,
there's all only four hundred and thirty five of us.
There's three hundred and twenty million Americans. So if you
don't want if you want to trade, you want to day.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Trade, then just get out of Congress. So we're going
to try to force a vote on this.

Speaker 13 (36:11):
We've got Republicans and Democrats committed to force this issue,
and we're going to do it as soon as we
can this fall.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
All right, let's go into the AG's race. I know
that Texas has got a ton of super competitive primaries
going on all across the board, so many different moving parts.
You were running for Attorney General of the great State
of Texas. Why do you want to be ag? How
is the race going? What should people out there? And
by the way, let me also add this, The primary

(36:41):
in Texas is in March, so I know everybody down
in your state right now is obsessed with high school
football and college football, and I mean it is the
football crazy place. But by the time we come out
of Christmas in New Years, it's basically going to be
almost early voting time. How is the campaign going? What
should people know in Texas right now? As primary seasons

(37:03):
only about six months away.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 13 (37:06):
We're about four months away from early voting. And look,
I'm running for Attorney General for the simple reason that
Texas is worth fighting for and preserving and protecting, and
Texas is under assault. We've got this reprieve happily with
President Trump, and you know, good folks in the administration
that are securing the border, that are making sure.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
That they put us in a good position. And I
think that's important. But we also have to look ahead
and know how Texas is going to do after President Trump.

Speaker 13 (37:33):
We have wide open borders that are currently stopped, but
you've got all these bad actors that are still wanting
to make profit and putting fennel into our streets and
to have you know, dangerous individuals in our communities. You've
got these organized Marxist and leftists, the George Soros prosecutors
that are putting criminals on our streets in San Antonio
and in Austin and Houston and Dallas. And then we've

(37:55):
got the extent to which we've got Sharia law, and
we've got radical Islamis that are coming into our state
and that they're setting up strongholds throughout the state of Texas.
Not just Mom Donnie in New York, not just Dearborn,
not just Minneapolis, but Dallas. You have the Muslim brotherhood
who's looking at Dallas as the epicenter of the advancement

(38:15):
of Shria law. The Attorney General has to be at
the center of that fight. The Attorney general has to
have experience. The Attorney General has to have been somebody
who stood up in court as I have as an
assistant the United States Attorney or has stood up in
as the first Assistant Attorney General and filed cases in
front of the Supreme Court, defended Texans. And we've got

(38:35):
to make sure someone can lead and carry Texas forward
in the absence of a President Trump, not just alongside
President Trump going forward.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
All right, Chip, what in the world has happened to
your Texas Longhorns, your wife's inn, Aggie. I'm not feeling
good about your chances this year. But I watched that
game against Kentucky. I mean it was like y'all didn't
even have an offense, offensive line camp block anybody. You
got Misissippi State this weekend and down the line again

(39:08):
you got the Aggi's what's going on?

Speaker 13 (39:10):
Yeah, Well, look, I mean a bunch of that game
last week was tough. But we've got you know, Texas
now going into Mississippi State. That's always a tough game.
Lots of cow bell, as you know, and you know
that's a tough place to play. Look A and M's
gonna have a tough one too. They got to go
on the road into Death Valley at LSU, no doubt,
and you know we need A and M. It's going
to have to have the defense show up. It did

(39:31):
not show up last week against Arkansas. They let Arkansas
stack forty two points on them. Their defense better show
up when they go down to LSU, and the offense
needs to prove they can do it on the road
like they did with Notre Dame. Look with Texas, we
just need the offense to get in sync. Obviously not
where we want to be with two losses, but we
got a little gifts. Not one hundred percent sure why

(39:52):
Kentucky went for it twice there in that. You know,
we kind of got a little lucky in my.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
View that they decided to go for it. They're on
fourth down.

Speaker 13 (40:00):
With that same play, So look, you know, we need
a lot of pressure been pointed on Arch. I think
he already noted. The offensive line has basically been a
wide open door and he's.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Been getting rushed.

Speaker 13 (40:11):
If you look at the stats, it's been pretty crazy.
So you know, Start's got to figure out how to
deal with what he's got. Right, Like Rumsfeldt said, you
can go to war with the army you got. If
the offensive line's not getting the job done, you got
to get Arch out and let him create a little
bit and you got to figure out how to protect him.
And you know, hopefully we can get back on track
this weekend because we still got a shot, but every

(40:32):
game the rest of the year, the game that we
could win or lose, and uh, you know, we want
to we want to be able to finish with two losses,
not more. So got to step on the gas.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
You co signed all that buck you think he broke
down as you say, I agree. I'm not going to
throw any flags on that analysis. I think it tracks
with mostly what I'm seeing every weekend on Sundays Saturday.
It's good guests whatever, close enough. Congressman will appreciate you,
good luck on the campaign. We'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
And tell your wife to start trying to figure out
how she's going to celebrate the big Aggie win at
the end of the year.

Speaker 13 (41:08):
Yeah, well, I can tell you that she's you know,
they're starting to feel it. They're starting to talk a
little smack. And my son and daughter they kind of
leaning A and M direction and so. But you know
what else that you gotta remember, I went to Virginia undergrad.
They had a great game last week, pulling that one out.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
They're now six to one, and.

Speaker 13 (41:21):
Who would have thought Virginia would be ranked higher than
Texas right now?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So y Elliott's and he's done a great job in
Charlottesville this year at UVA. We appreciate the time, man,
and come on anytime.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
All right, thanks, Mike Couples stick here.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
That's ship Roy.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I think he's going to be the next age in
state of Texas, which is going to be very important
because they've got a huge battle going on. As we've
talked about Buck on the Republican Senate primary side, where
they got three big time candidates just throwing punches to
try to see who's going to be the nominee for
the Republican Party going forward. Remember, on the Democrat side,

(41:58):
we may get Jasmine Crockett before all it's said and done.

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Speaker 2 (43:52):
Welcome back in hour number three, last hour of the week,
fourteen hours up. We are now rolling into the fifteenth hour,
and we thank all of you for listening to us.
Positive news. As we started off the show, all time
record highs in the s and P five hundred in
the dal Jones in the Nasdaq, as inflation has come

(44:15):
in lower than expected, and as mortgage rates are hitting
a new low for the year on both the thirty
year and the fifteen year, and as gas prices hit
a four year low going all the way back to
twenty twenty one. There are many different, very positive stories

(44:36):
out there. We will get to a lot of your
talkbacks and they are of a variety of different perspectives.
Have some fun here in the final hour of this week,
but I wanted to update you on one of the
law related issues that we are currently facing in the country,
and that is Letitia James, having been indicted by a

(44:58):
grand jury in Northern virgin has shown up and pled
not guilty in Northern Virginia today. These were some of
her comments. Let's start with cut thirty three.

Speaker 11 (45:10):
This is not about me, about all of.

Speaker 14 (45:12):
Us, and about the justice system which has been weaponized,
a justice system which has been used as a tool
of revenge, This justice system which has been used as
a tool of revenge and a weapon against those individuals

(45:34):
who simply.

Speaker 11 (45:34):
Did their job and who stood up for the rule
of law.

Speaker 14 (45:37):
And a justice system which unfortunately is nothing being used
as a vehicle of retribution.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I mean a lot of claptrap there. Here is a
bit more.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
No fear today, says Letitia James after pleading not guilty
on her mortgage fraud charges.

Speaker 14 (45:57):
I have this belief in the justice system, the rule
of line, I have a judge, and I have a
belief in America and all of its individuals who have
stood with me, not only in New York but all
across the station. I've heard from just about every jurisdiction
in this nation who have said stand up and be tall,

(46:19):
and never ever cow down or back down, or break
or bend.

Speaker 11 (46:27):
So there's no fear today, No fear, No fear, No fear,
no fear, because I believe that justice will rain down
like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
All Right, you know what's missing Clay. Did you do
the thing that the prosecutor says you did. Everything that
she's talking about is like a campaign speech. This is
not about me, this is about you. Now, it's actually
about you. I think this is very straightforward. Did you

(47:07):
do the thing that the prosecution says you did? As
a person who is prosecuting other people for that same act,
you should be held accountable for doing that thing.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Otherwise we have a.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
People who hate Trump don't get prosecuted, and people who
like Trump get prosecuted even if they did nothing wrong standard,
which is what we've been going through for recent in
recent years, including the President himself of course most notably.
So this should be very you know, very easy, very obvious.
Did you do the thing that they say you did?

(47:42):
And she's not seeming to claim that she didn't in
any of this. She's just saying that this is about
the broader justice system and all this other stuff. Well,
we'll see about that.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So that is one bit of news.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Another bit of news out there is that we now
have buck and endorsement of Mam Donnie by Hakeem Jeffries,
the minority leader in the House of Representatives. He had
avoided to this point doing that endorsement. He has just
sent an endorsement to The New York Times, which has

(48:17):
just published it in the last few minutes. So as
we sit here, roughly what ten days out or so
from the New York City mayor's race, with early voting
officially beginning tomorrow, this is basically the last possible moment
we mentioned this. Eric Adams has endorsed Cuomo. Curtis Sliwa,
according to producer Ali, has agreed that he will come

(48:38):
on the show next week. So at some point next week,
as we move closer to the official election day, Curtis
Sliwa will make his case. So far, Andrew Cuomo has
still refused to come on the program, and I'm assuming
Mom Donnie would refuse to come on the program, but
I guess we could invite him to. This is I

(49:00):
think this is important because Buck, You're a New York
City kid.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Born and bred.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Ultimately, I think all of the controversies that we have
right now, the shutdown, UH, the uncertainty as to win
the government is going to open back up. I think
a lot of it is rooted in Mam Donnie royaling
the waters of the New York Democrat Party and getting
Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer very nervous about their own

(49:25):
futures in the New York Democratic Party based on Mamdanni
coming from nowhere and winning as a far left wing
nominee and shocking a lot of people when he bought
when he beat Andrew Cuomo in the primary.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yes, I I'm sorry, I thought you were calling for
a clip there. I would say, uh, Mam Donnie, Mam
Donnie is going to do some of the things that
he says, so that's concerning. And I would say that
Mam Donnie is going to be incapable of moving on
some of the other things that he's working on or

(50:04):
that he says he wants to work on. So it
will be he will be limited by his inefficiency. But overall,
his whole baseline idea that he's going to make the
city more affordable involves doing things that make the city
less affordable. This is the little This is what I
meant when I said, oh, they want to make us
safer by taking away ar fifteens. Air fifteens are not

(50:26):
the problem for public safety anywhere in the country for
that matter. It's just they want to have an excuse
to do something else politically, and they use safety as
a prop in that whole dance. The reality here with
Mamdani is making the city more affordable would require doing
things that they simply do not want to do, like

(50:49):
less government regulation of rent easier, make it more profitable
and easier for developers to come in and to build housing.
I mean, the more market based it is, the more
efficient it will become, and the more efficient it becomes,
the lower the prices are. This is the fundamental flaw

(51:10):
and all of the logic from Mamdanism, which is why
we call him a kami. He seems to think that
all of the disruptions and the distortions that exist in
the New York City housing market are the result of
just fat cats and people who don't care about the
poor and all this emotional stuff, when the reality is

(51:32):
that it's people like him that have made the situation
as bad as it is. It's people that think that
if only, you know, here's just one example, they'll say, oh,
we're gonna build all these affordable housing units. Okay, who
wants to live next to these affordable housing units? Not
only who wants to live in them, but who wants
to live next to them, who wants to have that
massive construction going on that will then be filled with

(51:54):
people who are paying effectively nothing to live there.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
This is another issue that never gets dressed by these individuals.
This is why when they tried for a while, unto
the Obama administration, to attack zoning, and that sounds like
a really boring thing, but it's actually a really big thing.
Zoning at the state level in places like New York,
so that you would have affluent communities like Chappaqua would
all of a sudden have to have a lot of

(52:19):
low income housing within their town limits.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Even the Democrats freaked out on that one. Oh yeah,
all of a sudden, All of a sudden, you had
Hillary and Obama voters who were like, whoa, I don't
want I don't want that low income housing.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
In my area.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
The market is the only thing that will really effectively
address the housing shortage, the housing issue. You know, in
a place like Florida. People might say, well, why is
there a housing shortage in Florida, Well, it's cause so
many people moved here so quickly, and now they're trying
to keep up with demand. But they are building rapidly.
One of the problems is they don't have enough people

(52:54):
to build this stuff right, But the market will take
care of this. Because people have to pay more to
get the house is done, more people will go into building.
I mean, this is how it actually works. So just
everything that Ma'm Donnie says he's going to do for
the city on affordability is it's not that it won't work.
It will work to make the city less affordable. And
that's and also when you start to clay have people

(53:16):
leaving who are the high income erders. One percent of
New York City residents pay fifty percent of the taxes,
so you don't have to lose a lot of people
to start to blow a big hole in the New
York City budget.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And by the way, then that money moves to states
like Florida, Tennessee, and Texas, and it's a virtuous circle
because all of the services get better there. As you've
pointed out, Florida has what most people would consider to
be better government than New York and it costs half
as much. People are still mad at me for saying,
Curtis Lee, what should drop out given that it's Friday,
let's hit some of those talkbacks Buck beginning with Curtis

(53:50):
is going to join us next week.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Everybody just like that. He's going to come more.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
We're figuring out the day, but he's going to join us,
and I I'm looking forward to that conversation. I think
Curtis and Clay are going to be great friends. Joe
in La at k e IB Radio, he's got to
take BB.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I agree with all these guys criticizing Clay. Tell me
Slee would a dropout. Clay would have probably had the
US Olympic hockey team in nineteen eighty drop out instead
of playing the Russians. As Herm Edwards once said the
great football coach.

Speaker 15 (54:23):
You play to win the game, and if it gives
Cuomo at two percent after chance of winning, Cuomo, you
play to win the game.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Richard.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
In Spokane, we said, we had a great audience in Spokane, Washington,
some of the same people on the Pacific Northwest listening
to us right now at news radio five ninety kqu
and T.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
He says this cc.

Speaker 6 (54:51):
I did seventeen years in the joint.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
If you don't fight because you think you're going to lose,
then everybody is going to take advantage of you you fight,
win or lose, you fight.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
So yeah, you're wrong.

Speaker 15 (55:06):
Sleewan needs to stay in.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
And be a fighter.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Seventeen years in prison, Buck, I mean, that's a that's
gotta be a tough ride.

Speaker 15 (55:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I'll tell you this a lot of the sleeve of
fans out there basically telling you, Clay, every man dies,
not every man really lives.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You know, they want to go, They want to go
with their shield or on it.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
You know, they're they're not looking to do anything other
than take this to the mat, take it all the way,
even invoking the great American hockey win in the movie
Miracle against the Russians, which even I have seen, because
producer Mark was so appalled that I had not seen
that movie.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I tying this all full circle.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Monday in New York City, I helped raise money with
our friend Frank Siller and Tunnel to Towers. Among the
objects auctioned off buck a nineteen eighty the US men's
soccer team autographed jersey by one of the members of
that team, maybe Curtise Slee.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
What can hang it on his wall?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I will point out, as I am speaking to all
of you, and as the election begins tomorrow. According to
the gambling markets, Mom, Donnie ninety three percent chance of winning.
By the way, this is with two hundred and eighty
one million dollars bet on on the marketplace right now. Well,

(56:32):
is is the mafia rigging this one to Clay? I
don't know, you know, ninety three percent chance?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Quite?

Speaker 6 (56:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Cuomo five percent chance. Curtisely what less? He's got a
point five percent chance?

Speaker 6 (56:45):
All right?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
So if right now you bet on him, you can
get Curtis Lee what to win this race at two
hundred to one. That means you put down a dollar,
you get back two hundred. So that is absolutely bonkers.
Did I say that soccer instead of hockey?

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Is?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I thought I said hockey.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I didn't say soccer. I don't know somebody's correcting us.
I knew it was hockey. A hockey fan, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Producer Greg is lighting us up, saying that that we
someone of us said soccer. I mean I think we
said hockey. We know it was nineteen eighty. Oh he's saying,
he's saying that you you said it. So I'm okay
with that as long as it's not my fault. Hockey
apologies the World Cup's coming up this summer, by the way,
should be fun for soccer fans out there.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Buck's a big soccer guy, you like. I do like soccer.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
It's one of my host American traits. You know, my
most Unamerican traits is I enjoy I enjoy watching soccer.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I think it's gonna be awesome in the US.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
They got the draw coming up in December at the
Kennedy Center, which President Trump probably I would bet, will
show up to be a part of, which should be
very cool in early December to find out when the
games are and how it gets set up.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
I think Trump should he should do uh, he should
do the play by play for a game, like he
passed the.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Ball, he passed the ball to sum somebody else.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Another pass, a beautiful pass, another pass.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Maybe it'll be a goal at some point, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Trump doing play by play for soccer, I think would
be a great boon for the World Cup.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
It would be very, very fun. I don't disagree. I
don't disagree at all about that.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
It'd be like Dominguez passes to Rodriguez, Rodriguez to Dominguez,
back to Rodriguez.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
You know, he could sort of do a whole thing.
It would be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
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