October 27, 2025 • 39 mins
Clay's Beret Bet
Clay and Buck preview Wednesday’s interview with Curtis Sliwa, who will make his case against progressive frontrunner Mamdani, a candidate backed by AOC and Bernie Sanders. The hosts debate whether Mamdani’s far-left agenda—highlighted by proposals like free public buses and aggressive “tax the rich” policies—could devastate New York City’s economy and quality of life. Clay predicts a decisive loss for Sliwa, even joking about wearing a red beret for a week if proven wrong. Callers from New York weigh in, sharing firsthand accounts of high voter enthusiasm for Sliwa and skepticism about polling accuracy.
The Crazy Ones
The escalating political drama in New York City’s mayoral race, featuring progressive candidate Mamdani and his radical proposals. Clay and Buck dissect the recent rally headlined by AOC, who passionately declared, “We are not the crazy ones,” as she defended far-left policies like rent freezes. The hosts explain why freezing rent is economically destructive, citing basic supply-and-demand principles and drawing parallels to Venezuela’s collapse under price controls. They argue that these socialist-style policies will worsen housing shortages and degrade property quality in NYC.
Kamala '28?
Democratic leadership speculation. Clay and Buck analyze Kamala Harris’s BBC interview, where she hinted at a 2028 presidential run despite dismal betting odds—ranking behind celebrities like Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson. They review current odds showing Gavin Newsom as the frontrunner, followed by AOC, Harris, Pete Buttigieg, and Wes Moore. This sparks a humorous sidebar on AOC’s engagement to Riley Roberts, long engagements, and even prenup debates, with Buck sharing insights from a viral divorce attorney who argues everyone should consider prenups.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Let's go to Josh in New York City. Josh, what
you got for.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Us, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Tremendous show, And I'm going to throw my cards right
on the table. I'm supporting Curtis Flee with the Mayor
of New York City that breaking records the early voting.
One hundred and sixty thousand people voted Saturday and Sunday,
and Curtis Lee will, let me just tell the people
out there and you can verify this. The new York Post.
June four, twenty twenty, Curtis Leewa and ten of the
(01:07):
Guardian Angels were out confronting the loots in New York City,
the famous Ones in front of one of the famous
speaker places. Curtis ended up with a broken jaw and
one of the other guys, who was not a young dude,
ended up with a broken eye socket and a broken nose.
But let me tell the folks out there, when the
sun came up that morning, Curtis Sleiewer and the Guardian
(01:30):
Angels was still standing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Thank you for the call that we lose him there
for a sec All right, here is a fun discussion
for all of you. I believe that Mamdannie is going
to win, and I think Curtis Lee what is going
to get smoked? Now He's going to make the argument
to us on Wednesday. I am always willing to acknowledge
that I could be wrong. I also play is going
(01:55):
to basically put it to Curtis like that, knowing Clay
as well as I do, He's not going to be
like so, KURTI, it's really it's really close. So get
ready right, So I think he's gonna lose. What should
I have to do with if if I am wrong,
where what if I am.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Red Beret for a whole week of this show and
tweet out a photo of you with the red beret
on red?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I will That's a good one. I will do the
entire I'll do a full week of shows in Curtis's
red beret. I'll get my own red beret and I
will sit here and I will do the show. I
will go on Fox News at least once wearing the
red beret as well. That is a good one. I
am open to other suggestions out there. I don't think
(02:41):
the spoiler alert, I don't think I'm gonna look that
good in a beret. To be fair, anybody really pull
off the bra. Have you ever seen someone in berat
Special Forces and but you thought they looked better than
if they didn't have the beret flint back in the day,
Gi Joe, I mean, yeah, dude, they look bad at
and they look badass in the I know they're badasses.
(03:02):
I'm just not sure that the beret is necessarily the
hat where people see them in it and think everyone
looks better. I will tell you I will not look
good in the beret. I will not be someone that
looks very good. Are you going to be painting? And
are you going to be twirling your mustache and speaking
in French? Because then you'd pull it off. I might.
I might move to Momatra and be a painter on
(03:23):
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Jacqueline in Brooklyn. She wants to update a she is
a poll worker in Brooklyn. What have you seen so far?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hi, Clay, Yeah, I'm actually an inspector at one of
the poll sites and I worked yesterday and voter turnout
was very high, as is being reported. A lot of
people that came in. I didn't ask them anything. They've
voluntarily told me. They were so excited like kid's in
a candy store. They said, I just want to vote
for mayor. I just want to vote for Curtis. I
haven't voted in a long time, but I just want
(04:48):
to vote for mayor. And I just want to vote
for Curtis. So and this also I heard from my
colleagues that worked on Saturday. I'll also be working tomorrow
and throughout the rest of the election and on election
Day as well. So do not underestimate Curtis people. You
know the polls. As far as the betting websites, I
understand that they use the same criteria they were lawing
(05:09):
on the information from the polls. The polls polled seventy
five percent of Democrats, only thirty percent collectively Republicans, Conservatives,
and independents were polls so garbage in garbage out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, so you think I'm going to be in a
red beret.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think you should really have to come to New
York and clean subway toilets.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
When Cardi cuinns, I am not, I am not. That's
a great suggestion. I will not clean subway toilets. I
gotta draw the lines. I can't. I can't get sick.
I mean, in my own health would be on the line.
I have to have an important job. I have to
be able to talk on the microphone. I will wear
a red beret. Maybe other funny things I don't want
to do. Maybe maybe you would go on the subway.
(05:52):
I'll be your your bodyguard, slash hype man, videoing you
on the subway with your red beret and just begging
for giveness from all Curtis voters you pass on the
subway for gouting our man Curtis sliwa for the huge
come from behind victory that he has if it has,
I want to hear from you. By the way, Buck,
(06:12):
what the people who showed up at the New No
King's rally had in common? And there's a big new
study that just dropped. Democrats are trying to figure out
why does everybody hate us. Seriously, they have commissioned their
own study and you're probably not going to be surprised
at the results. But it is very funny to contemplate
democrats looking at voters like they're in a zoo or
(06:36):
something and they're trying to figure out who are these
people out there. We'll have some fun with that too
when we come back. Thanks for hanging with us. On
the Monday edition of Playbook Welcome. In our number two
Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we are eight days away
from the official election day in New Jersey, in Virginia,
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and in New York City, and we are discussing the
crazy rally that took place in New York City. Surrounding Mom, Donnie,
Kathy Hokel. Now we got Hikeem Jeffries endorsing Mom Donnie,
and I want to play this one. This is AOC,
(07:19):
AOC saying we're not crazy. They want us to think
we're crazy. This is cut five AOC screaming at everyone
while she jumps around. Uh listen, we.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Must remember in a time such as this, we are
not the crazy ones New York City. We are not
the outlandish ones New York City. They want us to
think we are crazy. We are sane.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, yes, you are all very sane. Let's talk about
some of these things, Buck that I do worry because
some arguments are so dumb that I don't understand how
a major political party can make them. And let me
take a step back and say, some things you and
(08:15):
I disagree with in policy perspectives, but you can make
a reasonable argument that you or I or wrong, or
that some of you out there right or wrong. There's
lots of reasonable minds can differ perspectives. Freezing rent is
actually the most destructive thing you could do if you
(08:39):
believe you have major issues with rent in the city.
The thing I mean this is just basic economics. And
I know a lot of you get this, but maybe
your kids don't, maybe your grandkids don't, And you have
to succinctly kind of explain why this is a lunatic idea.
Here is just a simple argument. It's all supply and demand.
(09:04):
Everything in life is supply and demand. If you want
rent to come down, then you have to build more
apartments and or kick illegals that are using these apartments out.
This is very basic. It is the essence of economics itself.
The only way to drive down cost is to increase
(09:29):
the supply of a good by and large, and yet
they are simultaneously making it very hard to construct new
housing and telling the people who do own the housing,
we're going to restrict what you can charge, which means
the cost is going to continue to go up. For
(09:49):
those who own these rental properties, the maintenance costs are
going to continue to go up. Inflation is not stopping
for them, which means their profit margin is going to
go down, which means the quality of the rental property
will either decline or unfortunately, some of these properties will
just be taken off the market because the landlord will
(10:10):
throw up their hands and say, I'm losing money by
renting this property out. If they have the ability to
do so, they'll just pull it off the market, which
will mean that rents are continuing to increase overall because
the supply is declining.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
What what?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't even understand the argument that a rational human
being could make that freeze the rent is in any
way beneficial for people. Even if you believe that rental
costs are too high. I mean, you lived in New
York City. I see what people have to pay for
homes in New York City to rent. Just we have
to build way more homes. I mean, I don't understand
(10:48):
how this is not the ultimate solution.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Okay, So there's a few things here for for everyone.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I think to consider.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
One is, and this was even higher than I think
it was. If you were to just take ack a
quick look at what the cost of new multifamily is
in this country nationwide on average, and how much of
that is taxes, regulations, fees, meaning not just oh, I
(11:20):
want to hire people and get stuff to make a home,
and you know by land, hire a construction crew, have
them make it and sell it, but all the other things.
Estimate that I just found online just with a quick
search clay is forty percent. Forty percent of the cost.
I tried to find a specific New York City cost
(11:45):
and all they can really say is that it, whatever
it is, it's higher than forty percent. And there are
reasons for that. There are reasons for this one thing.
By the way, in New York City, building codes alone,
building codes are eleven percent of the cost. Inclusionary zoning
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mandates are seven percent of the cost. You know, you
go through these things, you say, well, hold on a
second and another one is again talking multifamily here, right,
because that's the only way you got to build up
in New York for it to be worth worthwhile in
New York City, it's very hard of you know, you're
not building like a you know, on two acres, a
(12:27):
single family home unless you're gonna sell it for twenty
million bucks. So they look at this, or rather you
look at this, and you find out that also the
fact that New York City labor costs are so high,
and that there's all these union mandates for labor, and
you have all these things, and these are the reasons
that there's not more housing supply, and the idea of
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freezing rent makes it worse. Give you an example of this, everybody.
You could look at a lot of things that ruin
the economy, and I mean that is where is now
a failed state. Maybe it's gonna get a new regime soon,
it's a failed state. It's a narco trafficker state. And
we don't even hear about the economy anymore one because
I think it's so hard to get real numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But it's been completely destroyed.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro
destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls because people who
are hurting and who don't have very much. Here, Hey,
these guys are going to use government force to say
that the cost of this washing machine isn't three hundred dollars,
(13:33):
it's one hundred dollars and that sounds great. Right, Oh
my gosh, Now my watch they mandate and only the
fat catch are going to pay. You know what happens, Clay,
No one can buy a washing machine anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
No one can. Actually, they their shelves are empty.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
This is what is going on in the New York
City housing market rid large, and yet Mamdani is about
to become mayor thinking that this stuff is the answer.
It is so destructive, it is soamaging, and it's essentially
a repudiation of the free market replaced with social justice.
It's common nonsense.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
This is also why the Democrat Party's overall brand is collapsing.
As we were talking Buck, the media company Semaphore posted
a new story that I thought was pretty interesting. This
is a Democrats study why are they so rotten? What
(14:30):
is the takeaway here? And the headline is left wing
ideas have wrecked Democrats brand new report warns, and this
is the Democrat Party's own study, Democrats have badly weakened
their party, with left leaning ideas and rhetoric growing only.
(14:50):
I bet this ties in with your no Kings protest
with self described white liberals, while losing ground with other voters.
According to a center left group's report shared first with Semaphore,
the group, which is called Welcome, consulted hundreds of thousands
of voters over six months for a broad finding, including
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seventy percent. Seventy percent of voters think the Democrat Party
is quote out of touch. Most voters the group found
believe the party overprioritizes issues like protecting the rights of
LGBTQ plus Americans, fighting climate change, while not caring about
securing the border or lowering the rate of crime. And
(15:39):
as a result, they say that they have completely misjudged
the audience as a whole, and that I mean, I
think they're right on this, buck. The reason they're losing
elections is not because voters aren't hearing their message. It's
because voters are hearing their message and they are profoundly
(16:01):
rejecting it. And the data in here is really just
kind of very fascinating to see. And for instance, they
talk about racial groups eight hundred and twenty eight percent
more in the Democrat Party now buck compared to in
twenty twelve. Think about some of this stuff. They talk
(16:24):
about environmental justice three hundred and thirty three percent more,
they talk about LGBTQ rights one thousand and forty four
percent more, And mentions of men and fathers have fallen
in the Democrat Party platform by sixty three percent, one
(16:46):
hundred percent on fathers and responsibility, the word responsibility has
collapsed by eighty three percent. This probably doesn't stun you,
and it probably doesn't shock a lot of our audience,
but it is interesting that Democrats are now recognizing how
toxic their own messaging has become.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
One thing I thought about over the weekend. This isn't
a side. It's like I'm doing a soliloquy on the radio.
Here is how rare it is for there to be
in any kind of entertainment. You know, Carrie went to sleep,
and so when she goes to bed before me, I
watch anything that I know she hates, like sci fi.
So I tried out the Halo Show on Netflix because
(17:30):
I know the video game. You know, it's okay, but
I was thinking about this because you know, the guy,
the lead guys, you know, a badass and.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
The whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I thought, you know what, how many shows are there
that show but you don't know anything about this guy's
family and anything. But how many shows are there where
the dad is actually somebody I've been preaching this as
a dad that you're like, that's a you know.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The closest thing I can think of would be years ago.
I mean, I think coach Eric Taylor in Friday Night
Lights was like, it was a really solid dad, you know, masculine,
good at his job, take care of his family. You know,
he was a solid dad.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think that was one of the kind of subtle
but strong appeals of that show. Now he does move
in the end because his wife's career forces him to.
Sorry spoiler alert, but I feel like he's just, you know,
he's a solid dad.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There's so many things out there in entertainment where the
dad is like this is like this bumbling buffoon, or
the dad is an absentee. Well, it depends. You have
a lot of a lot of divorce and absentee dads.
If the dad is white. In media, you see a
lot of that and in media, that's that's the depiction
of it. And you sit there and you say to yourself,
(18:38):
this doesn't have to be this way back to the
demographics though, because you open the door to this and
now I'm going back on track here with you, Clay,
but yeah, just someone let me know if there is
a great show where there's a dad that you're like,
this is a this is.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
A dad that American men should look up to where
I opened I opened or one of our hours that
you were out on this exact thing. There's a clip
up I think on YouTube you're hitting on something I
think independent because I think you were out. We have
effectively written dad. I'm not, Oh, no, you have. We
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have effectively and I argue about this in the new
book that I've got, we've effectively written men out of
pop culture dads. You have extremely powerful moms, moms that
do a great job, like it's the foundation, I would argue,
But it's not just that we've written them out now, Buck,
it's that it's a repudiation of everything we grew up.
They also have moms that are kind of pretending to
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be dad's which is a whole other that's a whole totally.
I mean, you're trying to fill both both roles. But
I mean, and it's a repudiation of the era in
which we grew up when and yet I'm not saying
that Bill Cosby. I'm talking about the show, Uh, the
Cosby Show Growing Pains, Uh, a full house where they
wrote the moms out like you run through most of
(19:54):
eighties and nineties of Fresh Prince of bel Air family matters,
white and black dads that were incredibly prominent.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
The dads, Taylor, Yeah, the dads were real dads who
commanded respect. We've completely I didn't know you were talking
about this, but this is something that I really think
about because if I'm going through shows that I'm gonna watch,
I don't consume a lot of pop culture. When I do,
it's just all these dads. And it's it's weird too
because I know so many I know dads who are
(20:24):
you know, fantastic providers, fantastic husbands. You know, they're trying
to be in great shape and be strong, and you
know they're they're they got cool hobbies and they want
to teach their boys and they're taking them hunting or
they're taking them fishing. You know, I know dads like that,
and yet I see no dads like that in the media.
So I know they exist in the wild because I
have friends who are like that. Meanwhile, no depictions whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You you can even argue, because I know we got
to go to break buck, but this is something I'm
fired up about. You can even argue that dads today
are more involved with their kids than dads in the sixties, seventies,
eight eighties were when it was much more of a
mom's at home and dad is always out of the house.
I would argue to your point, there are probably more
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father figures very involved in raising their kids today than
there were when you and I grew up, and yet
they are completely without representation in modern pop culture.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Well, who is the or what is the most overrepresented
demographic at the No King's protest. I'll throw this out
there and then we'll get into it. Some more middle
aged white women. Everybody, middle aged white women. I would
have bet a lot of money that was the answer. Yep,
and that is what the data shows. We will come
(21:41):
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Speaker 1 (23:16):
Welcome back in. Buck just mentioned that he keeps losing
steaks to me, and you know this is just what
I do. Just rack up steak, bet wins. I was
kicking back over the weekend, just thinking about what exact
cut of fabulous steak I might be most interested in
for a nice winter getaway down to the warm environs
(23:39):
of Miami Beach, and i'bby damned if my good friend
Kamala Harris didn't travel over the pond and decided to
sit down for a BBC interview about her magisterial work
one hundred and seven Days, reviewed here by our esteemed
host co host here Buck Sexton, and Hair said she's
(24:01):
been so impressed at how much Buck liked her book
and she has decided that she maybe should go ahead
and run for president again.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Cut eight your baby nieces, Amara and Leela. When are
they going to see a woman in charge in the
White House in their lifetime?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
For sure?
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Could it be you? Possibly? Have you made a decision yet? No,
I have not. But you say in your book, I'm
not done.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That is correct.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I am not done.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I have lived my entire career a life of.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Service, and it's in my bones, and there are many
ways to serve. I have not decided yet what I
will do in the future beyond what I.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Am doing right now.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you
might run again to become president. And in my experience
interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means
they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look
at the bookies' odds, they put you as an outsider,
even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean that underestimating you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I've never listened to polls. If I listen to polls,
I would have not run for my first office or
my second office. And I certainly wouldn't be sitting here
in this interview.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
All right, Bob behind and hold on a second steak
man behind Dwayne. I never run for any office the
Rock Johnson. Okay, So before you start sharpening your steak knife, sir,
for what won't be determined for at least another year
and a half, let's just be clear. She should Her
(25:38):
numbers now should be the best. They're the best they're
likely to be because the more people think about what
a disaster she was. As she gears up to run again,
I think the worst it gets for her. Clay, she
is behind Random. She was the vice president for four
years and she is now According to you like the poll,
I mean the the wedding sites. According to add sites, Random,
(26:01):
celebrity movie stars are more likely to run and be
the nominee than Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't know exactly which site she was. This British
interviewer for the BBC was sighting and I wanted to
look them up, and I will in fact look them
up while we are talking. She's gonna run and I
just come back to she has nothing else and I
(26:28):
know we've joked about they wouldn't even let her be
the president of UCLA or the chancellor or whatever it's
called of UCLA or of cal Berkeley. But I don't
think there's any doubt she might be able to get UCSB.
It's a great spot. Nothing against UCSB. But she needs
(26:49):
this because there is nothing else. She has nothing else.
She's sitting around, she's bored, she has no in fact,
other things going on. Here is what the latest odds are.
So this is the US Gavin Newsom, and we'll play
some Gavin Newsom cuts for you next hour, because he
(27:11):
is in a legenist liar, the likes of which I'm
not agonist. Are you going on? Aginis oly aginis? Pronunciation?
I believe too. I'm at pronouncing words. I read way
more than I listen, So this has to happen to
you all the time, too, Buck. I know words, and
(27:32):
I can spell them, and I can use them in
written context, but a lot of times I've never heard
them actually used, and so uh some of them. I love,
just the way that one flows. Oly agonus, Oh, such
a great word, but I don't know how to pronounce it.
He is unctuous. I think I got that one right.
That's that's a very good one. That's a fun word.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know who's really captain unctious? Gavin Newsom, He's really
That's what I'm saying. That's where he is the mos
unctuous the political class. He is the favorite right now,
buck right now, thirty four percent chance that Gavin Knewsome,
according to the gambling markets, is the next Democrat nominee,
followed by we just played the cut. We're not crazy.
(28:14):
They want you to think that we're crazy, which sounds
like a lot of twenty five year old girlfriends you
guys might have had at some point in your life.
You're the crazy one. I'm not crazy, You're crazy AOC
eleven percent.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I'm just gonna tell you something. How many girls,
by the way, I just gonna jump in this. I
gotta help the single guys. There's not a lot of
you out there listening, but there are some the single
guys out there. If your girlfriend ever says to you,
I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You probably need to find a new girlfriend. All right.
I'm just telling you. If she feels they need to
tell you she's not crazy, you're in trouble. One of
the first signs that she is in fact crazy, which
is when I saw that clip of AOC saying they
want you to think that we're crazy, but we're not crazy. No,
you're actually crazy. What is the AOC boyfriend she married?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Now?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Didn't she marry a ginger white guy, ginger white guy husband?
She's married? I think right. I don't know if they're married.
I think they're married. I think she married a ginger,
ginger white guy. Good for him. Uh and uh because
I I remember the photos and everything else. Poor guy.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Kamala Harris third place right now, she's tied with Mayor
Pete uh and your boy Wes Moore uh, and then
John Assoff who was running for reelection as a senator
from Georgia, Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Basheer. That is
roughly the top ten. Oh my bad. She has not
(29:44):
married the ginger. They are just engaged. Producer ally says,
what are the chances? What are the chances that he
takes her last name? Hi? I'm just throwing that. What
is what is this guy? Do we know that we
know the fe's name? Can I get research on it?
I'm just trying to His last name is Roberts. What
(30:06):
do we know his first name?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So so with that, then would he then be Roberts
Ocasio Cortes. Would we go three triple name triple name
with Biden's His first name is Riley. If I were
going to pick a Democrat that would be engaged to AOC,
Riley would be one of the top names.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I would go with. Riley Roberts, Riley Roberts, Occasio Cortes.
I mean I wish him well. I read a story
about this buck you were saying, if a woman says
I'm not crazy, you know, running the other direction, she's
probably crazy. Some men are taking women's last names.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I think I would disown my sons. I mean, I
have three boys. I think if one of them came
to me and said, Dad, I am getting married and
I am taking my new wife name last name is
my own, I would certainly not pay for the wedding
and I might take him out of the will. I mean,
that's some of you out there might say, which would
(31:09):
actually be meaningful for the Travis boys. I'm just saying
Travis boys. I mean, I mean, they want they want
the They want that you know that I'll kick money.
They don't want to get cut out of the will.
That would be bad if one of them came to
me and said, Dad, I'm so excited, I'm engaged. I said, congratulations,
And then they said, and Dad, I have decided that
I'm going to give up our name. I'm going to
(31:30):
give up the Travis name and I'm taking my fiance's
name instead. I would say, you're out of the will.
But this Riley guy, I Betley's gonna do it. I
bet he's gonna be Okay, Tortes, I back, I back
you on on your assessment of that entirely. And little Speed,
Jimmy Speed, same same rule is going to apply. I
(31:51):
can't take the woman's name, is it? But that that's
that's not gonna happen, not gonna happen me. I can't
imagine it any But but this Riley Roberts guy, he
may do it. He's gonna be uh Riley O case quote.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That I would not not be surprised. He's gonna spend
a lot of time explaining why he took AOC's last
name and why he's in photos in the background holding
her purse. Nonetheless, the engagement April twenty twenty two. Been
engaged for going on four years. You know, I'm just
how long will you engaged to do what they do?
(32:22):
I don't want to calls people My husband and I
have been married fifty years and have ten children and
couldn't be happier when we were engaged for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
There's always people do things their own way. It works
out great in general. Long engagement not the right move,
not the right moves.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
There's no reason for this. Anything already said. You want
to get married, get married anything more than a year.
Something's up, Yeah, I just the guy is just playing
for time. He's waiting to see whether the options are
going to get better. If you can't get engaged and
married in a year, and I look, there are exceptions like, yes,
maybe your husband is serving overseas and he's unable to
(33:01):
come back. Like I'm talking about. If you live in
the country, right, and you aren't on an oil rig
somewhere in the Arctic, right, and you aren't under a
deep cover in the Middle East trying to bring down
terrorist organizations, all right, I'm giving a couple of accepts.
If you live in the United States and you are
engaged for over a year, it is it is something's up.
(33:24):
It's a good advice. I'm just trying to make people's
life better. If he's not willing to do that, then
something is up. He's just playing for time. Where are
you on pre nups?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Because people have been pointing out to me there is
another James Sexton out there. Have you seen this guy?
He's all over the internet. He's a divorce attorney who
shares my legal name. Obviously you all know me as Buck.
His name is James Sexton, and he's like the divorce
attorney to the stars, and now he's become something of
(33:55):
almost a life coach, I think, online for people. And
he's trying to tell everybody that every everybody, regardless of
well should have a prenup because otherwise the state, meaning
you know, whatever state you live in, has one that
they've already made.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Up for you.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I disagree. I am not a pre nup guy. I mean,
I guess I'm admitting something very personal on the air here.
But unless you're like a unless you're like a Rockefeller
and you're on wife number two or three, I don't
think pre nups are the move.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I mean, I had a negative net worth when I
got married, so all I would have been doing is
spreading out more of the money that that basically I owed,
and we had a negative net worth for a long
time early in our marriage too. I do understand like
if I had been where I am now and I
had never gotten married, I would be skeptical of the
(34:50):
world out there in a way that I was not
when I was twenty five and I got married. So
I think partly it's age. And I guess to your point, Buck,
if your family is so insanely wealthy, like the Rockefellas
back in the day, like maybe the Newsoms, which we'll
talk about in the third hour, maybe you should sit around.
The word is by the way that Gavin Newsom had
(35:11):
a several hundred thousand dollars wedding, which will not surprise you,
despite the fact that he claimed that he was raised
with no assets, which will play for you in the
third hour. I think you have to be really wealthy
to even think about a prenum. To me, now, everyone,
(35:32):
maybe it's easy to do a prenup if neither one
of you have anything. Maybe it's not that much of
a fight. And so maybe that's what he's kind of
getting at is basically just presumption that the marital union
might end, and so if you already have made decisions
that are rational, but life's circumstances changed so much. I mean,
if you don't have kids and you get divorced, to me,
(35:54):
that's not I understand, it's like not ideal to get divorced,
But if you don't have kids, your divorce is more
like a break up than it is. There's not a child.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Share the other James Sexton, if you go on Instagram
or on TikTok, he's he's every It's like, I mean,
maybe he's the most famous sex then out there now,
who knows. But he says, you break it down into
yours mind, communal marital property, and you just start from there.
I look, I didn't do it, and I don't advocate
for it, but I'm I think it's interesting that now
(36:24):
this is becoming, this is growing as a thing before
people get married, even when they This is specifically he's
saying for people because you don't know, and so set
it up now, because you can't set it up after
the fact. I mean, there's a scene I think, you know,
Donald and Ivanna they had a prenup and that was
(36:45):
part of one of these movies or whatever. They're negotiating
their prenup, and I do believe there was there was
a prenup there, but that's because he's a Trump and
he's got a massive fortune. And then you get into
the company, you know, the family business. You know, how
do you split up some of these things? And it
does get very complicated very quickly. So yeah, I don't know,
I just just put it out there. I just want
(37:06):
to point out there's another James Sexton, which.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is there's also a lot of relationship advice that has
been given in this segment, all of which I would
point out is flawless in general. Well, and our.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Wives know that both of us, Clay and Buck respectively,
according to their wives, flawless when it comes to relationships.
That's exactly right, have all the perfect as I'm regularly
referred to.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Frankly, Yeah, I know, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
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A lot of you already loading up the phone lines.
Let's go to Josh in New York City. Josh, what
you got for.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Us, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Tremendous show, And I'm going to throw my cards right
on the table. I'm supporting Curtis Flee with the Mayor
of New York City that breaking records the early voting.
One hundred and sixty thousand people voted Saturday and Sunday,
and Curtis Lee will, let me just tell the people
out there and you can verify this. The new York Post.
June four, twenty twenty, Curtis Leewa and ten of the
(01:07):
Guardian Angels were out confronting the loots in New York City,
the famous Ones in front of one of the famous
speaker places. Curtis ended up with a broken jaw and
one of the other guys, who was not a young dude,
ended up with a broken eye socket and a broken nose.
But let me tell the folks out there, when the
sun came up that morning, Curtis Sleiewer and the Guardian
(01:30):
Angels was still standing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Thank you for the call that we lose him there
for a sec All right, here is a fun discussion
for all of you. I believe that Mamdannie is going
to win, and I think Curtis Lee what is going
to get smoked? Now He's going to make the argument
to us on Wednesday. I am always willing to acknowledge
that I could be wrong. I also play is going
(01:55):
to basically put it to Curtis like that, knowing Clay
as well as I do, He's not going to be
like so, KURTI, it's really it's really close. So get
ready right, So I think he's gonna lose. What should
I have to do with if if I am wrong,
where what if I am.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Red Beret for a whole week of this show and
tweet out a photo of you with the red beret
on red?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I will That's a good one. I will do the
entire I'll do a full week of shows in Curtis's
red beret. I'll get my own red beret and I
will sit here and I will do the show. I
will go on Fox News at least once wearing the
red beret as well. That is a good one. I
am open to other suggestions out there. I don't think
(02:41):
the spoiler alert, I don't think I'm gonna look that
good in a beret. To be fair, anybody really pull
off the bra. Have you ever seen someone in berat
Special Forces and but you thought they looked better than
if they didn't have the beret flint back in the day,
Gi Joe, I mean, yeah, dude, they look bad at
and they look badass in the I know they're badasses.
(03:02):
I'm just not sure that the beret is necessarily the
hat where people see them in it and think everyone
looks better. I will tell you I will not look
good in the beret. I will not be someone that
looks very good. Are you going to be painting? And
are you going to be twirling your mustache and speaking
in French? Because then you'd pull it off. I might.
I might move to Momatra and be a painter on
(03:23):
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Jacqueline in Brooklyn. She wants to update a she is
a poll worker in Brooklyn. What have you seen so far?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hi, Clay, Yeah, I'm actually an inspector at one of
the poll sites and I worked yesterday and voter turnout
was very high, as is being reported. A lot of
people that came in. I didn't ask them anything. They've
voluntarily told me. They were so excited like kid's in
a candy store. They said, I just want to vote
for mayor. I just want to vote for Curtis. I
haven't voted in a long time, but I just want
(04:48):
to vote for mayor. And I just want to vote
for Curtis. So and this also I heard from my
colleagues that worked on Saturday. I'll also be working tomorrow
and throughout the rest of the election and on election
Day as well. So do not underestimate Curtis people. You
know the polls. As far as the betting websites, I
understand that they use the same criteria they were lawing
(05:09):
on the information from the polls. The polls polled seventy
five percent of Democrats, only thirty percent collectively Republicans, Conservatives,
and independents were polls so garbage in garbage out.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, so you think I'm going to be in a
red beret.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think you should really have to come to New
York and clean subway toilets.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
When Cardi cuinns, I am not, I am not. That's
a great suggestion. I will not clean subway toilets. I
gotta draw the lines. I can't. I can't get sick.
I mean, in my own health would be on the line.
I have to have an important job. I have to
be able to talk on the microphone. I will wear
a red beret. Maybe other funny things I don't want
to do. Maybe maybe you would go on the subway.
(05:52):
I'll be your your bodyguard, slash hype man, videoing you
on the subway with your red beret and just begging
for giveness from all Curtis voters you pass on the
subway for gouting our man Curtis sliwa for the huge
come from behind victory that he has if it has,
I want to hear from you. By the way, Buck,
(06:12):
what the people who showed up at the New No
King's rally had in common? And there's a big new
study that just dropped. Democrats are trying to figure out
why does everybody hate us. Seriously, they have commissioned their
own study and you're probably not going to be surprised
at the results. But it is very funny to contemplate
democrats looking at voters like they're in a zoo or
(06:36):
something and they're trying to figure out who are these
people out there. We'll have some fun with that too
when we come back. Thanks for hanging with us. On
the Monday edition of Playbook Welcome. In our number two
Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we are eight days away
from the official election day in New Jersey, in Virginia,
(06:57):
and in New York City, and we are discussing the
crazy rally that took place in New York City. Surrounding Mom, Donnie,
Kathy Hokel. Now we got Hikeem Jeffries endorsing Mom Donnie,
and I want to play this one. This is AOC,
(07:19):
AOC saying we're not crazy. They want us to think
we're crazy. This is cut five AOC screaming at everyone
while she jumps around. Uh listen, we.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Must remember in a time such as this, we are
not the crazy ones New York City. We are not
the outlandish ones New York City. They want us to
think we are crazy. We are sane.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, yes, you are all very sane. Let's talk about
some of these things, Buck that I do worry because
some arguments are so dumb that I don't understand how
a major political party can make them. And let me
take a step back and say, some things you and
(08:15):
I disagree with in policy perspectives, but you can make
a reasonable argument that you or I or wrong, or
that some of you out there right or wrong. There's
lots of reasonable minds can differ perspectives. Freezing rent is
actually the most destructive thing you could do if you
(08:39):
believe you have major issues with rent in the city.
The thing I mean this is just basic economics. And
I know a lot of you get this, but maybe
your kids don't, maybe your grandkids don't, And you have
to succinctly kind of explain why this is a lunatic idea.
Here is just a simple argument. It's all supply and demand.
(09:04):
Everything in life is supply and demand. If you want
rent to come down, then you have to build more
apartments and or kick illegals that are using these apartments out.
This is very basic. It is the essence of economics itself.
The only way to drive down cost is to increase
(09:29):
the supply of a good by and large, and yet
they are simultaneously making it very hard to construct new
housing and telling the people who do own the housing,
we're going to restrict what you can charge, which means
the cost is going to continue to go up. For
(09:49):
those who own these rental properties, the maintenance costs are
going to continue to go up. Inflation is not stopping
for them, which means their profit margin is going to
go down, which means the quality of the rental property
will either decline or unfortunately, some of these properties will
just be taken off the market because the landlord will
(10:10):
throw up their hands and say, I'm losing money by
renting this property out. If they have the ability to
do so, they'll just pull it off the market, which
will mean that rents are continuing to increase overall because
the supply is declining.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
What what?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I don't even understand the argument that a rational human
being could make that freeze the rent is in any
way beneficial for people. Even if you believe that rental
costs are too high. I mean, you lived in New
York City. I see what people have to pay for
homes in New York City to rent. Just we have
to build way more homes. I mean, I don't understand
(10:48):
how this is not the ultimate solution.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Okay, So there's a few things here for for everyone.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I think to consider.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
One is, and this was even higher than I think
it was. If you were to just take ack a
quick look at what the cost of new multifamily is
in this country nationwide on average, and how much of
that is taxes, regulations, fees, meaning not just oh, I
(11:20):
want to hire people and get stuff to make a home,
and you know by land, hire a construction crew, have
them make it and sell it, but all the other things.
Estimate that I just found online just with a quick
search clay is forty percent. Forty percent of the cost.
I tried to find a specific New York City cost
(11:45):
and all they can really say is that it, whatever
it is, it's higher than forty percent. And there are
reasons for that. There are reasons for this one thing.
By the way, in New York City, building codes alone,
building codes are eleven percent of the cost. Inclusionary zoning
(12:06):
mandates are seven percent of the cost. You know, you
go through these things, you say, well, hold on a
second and another one is again talking multifamily here, right,
because that's the only way you got to build up
in New York for it to be worth worthwhile in
New York City, it's very hard of you know, you're
not building like a you know, on two acres, a
(12:27):
single family home unless you're gonna sell it for twenty
million bucks. So they look at this, or rather you
look at this, and you find out that also the
fact that New York City labor costs are so high,
and that there's all these union mandates for labor, and
you have all these things, and these are the reasons
that there's not more housing supply, and the idea of
(12:50):
freezing rent makes it worse. Give you an example of this, everybody.
You could look at a lot of things that ruin
the economy, and I mean that is where is now
a failed state. Maybe it's gonna get a new regime soon,
it's a failed state. It's a narco trafficker state. And
we don't even hear about the economy anymore one because
I think it's so hard to get real numbers.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But it's been completely destroyed.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro
destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls because people who
are hurting and who don't have very much. Here, Hey,
these guys are going to use government force to say
that the cost of this washing machine isn't three hundred dollars,
(13:33):
it's one hundred dollars and that sounds great. Right, Oh
my gosh, Now my watch they mandate and only the
fat catch are going to pay. You know what happens, Clay,
No one can buy a washing machine anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
No one can. Actually, they their shelves are empty.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
This is what is going on in the New York
City housing market rid large, and yet Mamdani is about
to become mayor thinking that this stuff is the answer.
It is so destructive, it is soamaging, and it's essentially
a repudiation of the free market replaced with social justice.
It's common nonsense.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
This is also why the Democrat Party's overall brand is collapsing.
As we were talking Buck, the media company Semaphore posted
a new story that I thought was pretty interesting. This
is a Democrats study why are they so rotten? What
(14:30):
is the takeaway here? And the headline is left wing
ideas have wrecked Democrats brand new report warns, and this
is the Democrat Party's own study, Democrats have badly weakened
their party, with left leaning ideas and rhetoric growing only.
(14:50):
I bet this ties in with your no Kings protest
with self described white liberals, while losing ground with other voters.
According to a center left group's report shared first with Semaphore,
the group, which is called Welcome, consulted hundreds of thousands
of voters over six months for a broad finding, including
(15:14):
seventy percent. Seventy percent of voters think the Democrat Party
is quote out of touch. Most voters the group found
believe the party overprioritizes issues like protecting the rights of
LGBTQ plus Americans, fighting climate change, while not caring about
securing the border or lowering the rate of crime. And
(15:39):
as a result, they say that they have completely misjudged
the audience as a whole, and that I mean, I
think they're right on this, buck. The reason they're losing
elections is not because voters aren't hearing their message. It's
because voters are hearing their message and they are profoundly
(16:01):
rejecting it. And the data in here is really just
kind of very fascinating to see. And for instance, they
talk about racial groups eight hundred and twenty eight percent
more in the Democrat Party now buck compared to in
twenty twelve. Think about some of this stuff. They talk
(16:24):
about environmental justice three hundred and thirty three percent more,
they talk about LGBTQ rights one thousand and forty four
percent more, And mentions of men and fathers have fallen
in the Democrat Party platform by sixty three percent, one
(16:46):
hundred percent on fathers and responsibility, the word responsibility has
collapsed by eighty three percent. This probably doesn't stun you,
and it probably doesn't shock a lot of our audience,
but it is interesting that Democrats are now recognizing how
toxic their own messaging has become.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
One thing I thought about over the weekend. This isn't
a side. It's like I'm doing a soliloquy on the radio.
Here is how rare it is for there to be
in any kind of entertainment. You know, Carrie went to sleep,
and so when she goes to bed before me, I
watch anything that I know she hates, like sci fi.
So I tried out the Halo Show on Netflix because
(17:30):
I know the video game. You know, it's okay, but
I was thinking about this because you know, the guy,
the lead guys, you know, a badass and.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
The whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I thought, you know what, how many shows are there
that show but you don't know anything about this guy's
family and anything. But how many shows are there where
the dad is actually somebody I've been preaching this as
a dad that you're like, that's a you know.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
The closest thing I can think of would be years ago.
I mean, I think coach Eric Taylor in Friday Night
Lights was like, it was a really solid dad, you know, masculine,
good at his job, take care of his family. You know,
he was a solid dad.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think that was one of the kind of subtle
but strong appeals of that show. Now he does move
in the end because his wife's career forces him to.
Sorry spoiler alert, but I feel like he's just, you know,
he's a solid dad.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
There's so many things out there in entertainment where the
dad is like this is like this bumbling buffoon, or
the dad is an absentee. Well, it depends. You have
a lot of a lot of divorce and absentee dads.
If the dad is white. In media, you see a
lot of that and in media, that's that's the depiction
of it. And you sit there and you say to yourself,
(18:38):
this doesn't have to be this way back to the
demographics though, because you open the door to this and
now I'm going back on track here with you, Clay,
but yeah, just someone let me know if there is
a great show where there's a dad that you're like,
this is a this is.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
A dad that American men should look up to where
I opened I opened or one of our hours that
you were out on this exact thing. There's a clip
up I think on YouTube you're hitting on something I
think independent because I think you were out. We have
effectively written dad. I'm not, Oh, no, you have. We
(19:10):
have effectively and I argue about this in the new
book that I've got, we've effectively written men out of
pop culture dads. You have extremely powerful moms, moms that
do a great job, like it's the foundation, I would argue,
But it's not just that we've written them out now, Buck,
it's that it's a repudiation of everything we grew up.
They also have moms that are kind of pretending to
(19:31):
be dad's which is a whole other that's a whole totally.
I mean, you're trying to fill both both roles. But
I mean, and it's a repudiation of the era in
which we grew up when and yet I'm not saying
that Bill Cosby. I'm talking about the show, Uh, the
Cosby Show Growing Pains, Uh, a full house where they
wrote the moms out like you run through most of
(19:54):
eighties and nineties of Fresh Prince of bel Air family matters,
white and black dads that were incredibly prominent.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
The dads, Taylor, Yeah, the dads were real dads who
commanded respect. We've completely I didn't know you were talking
about this, but this is something that I really think
about because if I'm going through shows that I'm gonna watch,
I don't consume a lot of pop culture. When I do,
it's just all these dads. And it's it's weird too
because I know so many I know dads who are
(20:24):
you know, fantastic providers, fantastic husbands. You know, they're trying
to be in great shape and be strong, and you
know they're they're they got cool hobbies and they want
to teach their boys and they're taking them hunting or
they're taking them fishing. You know, I know dads like that,
and yet I see no dads like that in the media.
So I know they exist in the wild because I
have friends who are like that. Meanwhile, no depictions whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You you can even argue, because I know we got
to go to break buck, but this is something I'm
fired up about. You can even argue that dads today
are more involved with their kids than dads in the sixties, seventies,
eight eighties were when it was much more of a
mom's at home and dad is always out of the house.
I would argue to your point, there are probably more
(21:08):
father figures very involved in raising their kids today than
there were when you and I grew up, and yet
they are completely without representation in modern pop culture.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Well, who is the or what is the most overrepresented
demographic at the No King's protest. I'll throw this out
there and then we'll get into it. Some more middle
aged white women. Everybody, middle aged white women. I would
have bet a lot of money that was the answer. Yep,
and that is what the data shows. We will come
(21:41):
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Speaker 1 (23:16):
Welcome back in. Buck just mentioned that he keeps losing
steaks to me, and you know this is just what
I do. Just rack up steak, bet wins. I was
kicking back over the weekend, just thinking about what exact
cut of fabulous steak I might be most interested in
for a nice winter getaway down to the warm environs
(23:39):
of Miami Beach, and i'bby damned if my good friend
Kamala Harris didn't travel over the pond and decided to
sit down for a BBC interview about her magisterial work
one hundred and seven Days, reviewed here by our esteemed
host co host here Buck Sexton, and Hair said she's
(24:01):
been so impressed at how much Buck liked her book
and she has decided that she maybe should go ahead
and run for president again.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Cut eight your baby nieces, Amara and Leela. When are
they going to see a woman in charge in the
White House in their lifetime?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
For sure?
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Could it be you? Possibly? Have you made a decision yet? No,
I have not. But you say in your book, I'm
not done.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That is correct.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
I am not done.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I have lived my entire career a life of.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Service, and it's in my bones, and there are many
ways to serve. I have not decided yet what I
will do in the future beyond what I.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Am doing right now.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you
might run again to become president. And in my experience
interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means
they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look
at the bookies' odds, they put you as an outsider,
even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean that underestimating you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I've never listened to polls. If I listen to polls,
I would have not run for my first office or
my second office. And I certainly wouldn't be sitting here
in this interview.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
All right, Bob behind and hold on a second steak
man behind Dwayne. I never run for any office the
Rock Johnson. Okay, So before you start sharpening your steak knife, sir,
for what won't be determined for at least another year
and a half, let's just be clear. She should Her
(25:38):
numbers now should be the best. They're the best they're
likely to be because the more people think about what
a disaster she was. As she gears up to run again,
I think the worst it gets for her. Clay, she
is behind Random. She was the vice president for four
years and she is now According to you like the poll,
I mean the the wedding sites. According to add sites, Random,
(26:01):
celebrity movie stars are more likely to run and be
the nominee than Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't know exactly which site she was. This British
interviewer for the BBC was sighting and I wanted to
look them up, and I will in fact look them
up while we are talking. She's gonna run and I
just come back to she has nothing else and I
(26:28):
know we've joked about they wouldn't even let her be
the president of UCLA or the chancellor or whatever it's
called of UCLA or of cal Berkeley. But I don't
think there's any doubt she might be able to get UCSB.
It's a great spot. Nothing against UCSB. But she needs
(26:49):
this because there is nothing else. She has nothing else.
She's sitting around, she's bored, she has no in fact,
other things going on. Here is what the latest odds are.
So this is the US Gavin Newsom, and we'll play
some Gavin Newsom cuts for you next hour, because he
(27:11):
is in a legenist liar, the likes of which I'm
not agonist. Are you going on? Aginis oly aginis? Pronunciation?
I believe too. I'm at pronouncing words. I read way
more than I listen, So this has to happen to
you all the time, too, Buck. I know words, and
(27:32):
I can spell them, and I can use them in
written context, but a lot of times I've never heard
them actually used, and so uh some of them. I love,
just the way that one flows. Oly agonus, Oh, such
a great word, but I don't know how to pronounce it.
He is unctuous. I think I got that one right.
That's that's a very good one. That's a fun word.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know who's really captain unctious? Gavin Newsom, He's really
That's what I'm saying. That's where he is the mos
unctuous the political class. He is the favorite right now,
buck right now, thirty four percent chance that Gavin Knewsome,
according to the gambling markets, is the next Democrat nominee,
followed by we just played the cut. We're not crazy.
(28:14):
They want you to think that we're crazy, which sounds
like a lot of twenty five year old girlfriends you
guys might have had at some point in your life.
You're the crazy one. I'm not crazy, You're crazy AOC
eleven percent.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, I'm just gonna tell you something. How many girls,
by the way, I just gonna jump in this. I
gotta help the single guys. There's not a lot of
you out there listening, but there are some the single
guys out there. If your girlfriend ever says to you,
I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You probably need to find a new girlfriend. All right.
I'm just telling you. If she feels they need to
tell you she's not crazy, you're in trouble. One of
the first signs that she is in fact crazy, which
is when I saw that clip of AOC saying they
want you to think that we're crazy, but we're not crazy. No,
you're actually crazy. What is the AOC boyfriend she married?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Now?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Didn't she marry a ginger white guy, ginger white guy husband?
She's married? I think right. I don't know if they're married.
I think they're married. I think she married a ginger,
ginger white guy. Good for him. Uh and uh because
I I remember the photos and everything else. Poor guy.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Kamala Harris third place right now, she's tied with Mayor
Pete uh and your boy Wes Moore uh, and then
John Assoff who was running for reelection as a senator
from Georgia, Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Basheer. That is
roughly the top ten. Oh my bad. She has not
(29:44):
married the ginger. They are just engaged. Producer ally says,
what are the chances? What are the chances that he
takes her last name? Hi? I'm just throwing that. What
is what is this guy? Do we know that we
know the fe's name? Can I get research on it?
I'm just trying to His last name is Roberts. What
(30:06):
do we know his first name?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So so with that, then would he then be Roberts
Ocasio Cortes. Would we go three triple name triple name
with Biden's His first name is Riley. If I were
going to pick a Democrat that would be engaged to AOC,
Riley would be one of the top names.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I would go with. Riley Roberts, Riley Roberts, Occasio Cortes.
I mean I wish him well. I read a story
about this buck you were saying, if a woman says
I'm not crazy, you know, running the other direction, she's
probably crazy. Some men are taking women's last names.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I think I would disown my sons. I mean, I
have three boys. I think if one of them came
to me and said, Dad, I am getting married and
I am taking my new wife name last name is
my own, I would certainly not pay for the wedding
and I might take him out of the will. I mean,
that's some of you out there might say, which would
(31:09):
actually be meaningful for the Travis boys. I'm just saying
Travis boys. I mean, I mean, they want they want
the They want that you know that I'll kick money.
They don't want to get cut out of the will.
That would be bad if one of them came to
me and said, Dad, I'm so excited, I'm engaged. I said, congratulations,
And then they said, and Dad, I have decided that
I'm going to give up our name. I'm going to
(31:30):
give up the Travis name and I'm taking my fiance's
name instead. I would say, you're out of the will.
But this Riley guy, I Betley's gonna do it. I
bet he's gonna be Okay, Tortes, I back, I back
you on on your assessment of that entirely. And little Speed,
Jimmy Speed, same same rule is going to apply. I
(31:51):
can't take the woman's name, is it? But that that's
that's not gonna happen, not gonna happen me. I can't
imagine it any But but this Riley Roberts guy, he
may do it. He's gonna be uh Riley O case quote.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That I would not not be surprised. He's gonna spend
a lot of time explaining why he took AOC's last
name and why he's in photos in the background holding
her purse. Nonetheless, the engagement April twenty twenty two. Been
engaged for going on four years. You know, I'm just
how long will you engaged to do what they do?
(32:22):
I don't want to calls people My husband and I
have been married fifty years and have ten children and
couldn't be happier when we were engaged for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
There's always people do things their own way. It works
out great in general. Long engagement not the right move,
not the right moves.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
There's no reason for this. Anything already said. You want
to get married, get married anything more than a year.
Something's up, Yeah, I just the guy is just playing
for time. He's waiting to see whether the options are
going to get better. If you can't get engaged and
married in a year, and I look, there are exceptions like, yes,
maybe your husband is serving overseas and he's unable to
(33:01):
come back. Like I'm talking about. If you live in
the country, right, and you aren't on an oil rig
somewhere in the Arctic, right, and you aren't under a
deep cover in the Middle East trying to bring down
terrorist organizations, all right, I'm giving a couple of accepts.
If you live in the United States and you are
engaged for over a year, it is it is something's up.
(33:24):
It's a good advice. I'm just trying to make people's
life better. If he's not willing to do that, then
something is up. He's just playing for time. Where are
you on pre nups?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Because people have been pointing out to me there is
another James Sexton out there. Have you seen this guy?
He's all over the internet. He's a divorce attorney who
shares my legal name. Obviously you all know me as Buck.
His name is James Sexton, and he's like the divorce
attorney to the stars, and now he's become something of
(33:55):
almost a life coach, I think, online for people. And
he's trying to tell everybody that every everybody, regardless of
well should have a prenup because otherwise the state, meaning
you know, whatever state you live in, has one that
they've already made.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Up for you.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I disagree. I am not a pre nup guy. I mean,
I guess I'm admitting something very personal on the air here.
But unless you're like a unless you're like a Rockefeller
and you're on wife number two or three, I don't
think pre nups are the move.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I mean, I had a negative net worth when I
got married, so all I would have been doing is
spreading out more of the money that that basically I owed,
and we had a negative net worth for a long
time early in our marriage too. I do understand like
if I had been where I am now and I
had never gotten married, I would be skeptical of the
(34:50):
world out there in a way that I was not
when I was twenty five and I got married. So
I think partly it's age. And I guess to your point, Buck,
if your family is so insanely wealthy, like the Rockefellas
back in the day, like maybe the Newsoms, which we'll
talk about in the third hour, maybe you should sit around.
The word is by the way that Gavin Newsom had
(35:11):
a several hundred thousand dollars wedding, which will not surprise you,
despite the fact that he claimed that he was raised
with no assets, which will play for you in the
third hour. I think you have to be really wealthy
to even think about a prenum. To me, now, everyone,
(35:32):
maybe it's easy to do a prenup if neither one
of you have anything. Maybe it's not that much of
a fight. And so maybe that's what he's kind of
getting at is basically just presumption that the marital union
might end, and so if you already have made decisions
that are rational, but life's circumstances changed so much. I mean,
if you don't have kids and you get divorced, to me,
(35:54):
that's not I understand, it's like not ideal to get divorced,
But if you don't have kids, your divorce is more
like a break up than it is. There's not a child.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Share the other James Sexton, if you go on Instagram
or on TikTok, he's he's every It's like, I mean,
maybe he's the most famous sex then out there now,
who knows. But he says, you break it down into
yours mind, communal marital property, and you just start from there.
I look, I didn't do it, and I don't advocate
for it, but I'm I think it's interesting that now
(36:24):
this is becoming, this is growing as a thing before
people get married, even when they This is specifically he's
saying for people because you don't know, and so set
it up now, because you can't set it up after
the fact. I mean, there's a scene I think, you know,
Donald and Ivanna they had a prenup and that was
(36:45):
part of one of these movies or whatever. They're negotiating
their prenup, and I do believe there was there was
a prenup there, but that's because he's a Trump and
he's got a massive fortune. And then you get into
the company, you know, the family business. You know, how
do you split up some of these things? And it
does get very complicated very quickly. So yeah, I don't know,
I just just put it out there. I just want
(37:06):
to point out there's another James Sexton, which.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is there's also a lot of relationship advice that has
been given in this segment, all of which I would
point out is flawless in general. Well, and our.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Wives know that both of us, Clay and Buck respectively,
according to their wives, flawless when it comes to relationships.
That's exactly right, have all the perfect as I'm regularly
referred to.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Frankly, Yeah, I know, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
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(37:52):
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