October 28, 2025 • 62 mins
Get Ready to VOTE
Election Day 2025. The hour kicks off with a discussion on the upcoming elections in New York City, Virginia, and New Jersey, emphasizing the stakes and voter turnout trends. Clay shares a personal anecdote about voting locally and previews an interview with Riley Gaines, who recently faced backlash from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over her stance on protecting women’s sports.
The conversation quickly pivots to the New York City mayoral race, spotlighting controversial candidate Zohran Mamdani. Clay and Buck dissect Mamdani’s shifting narratives, including his disputed claims about Islamophobia post-9/11 and radical past statements such as “Defund the NYPD” and linking police to the IDF. They analyze why voters seem unfazed by these revelations and criticize Andrew Cuomo’s lackluster campaign strategy. The hosts warn that Mamdani’s progressive platform—featuring ideas like government-run grocery stores and fare-free buses—reflects a dangerous trend toward socialist policies that could devastate city infrastructure and small businesses.
The "White Men Are Evil" Argument
Clay and Buck discuss Zohran Mamdani, the leading candidate for New York City mayor, and dissect his radical platform and controversial family background. They highlight statements made by Mamdani’s father, a Columbia University professor, who accused the United States of inspiring Nazi genocide through its treatment of Native Americans. Clay and Buck push back hard, offering a detailed historical rebuttal that includes references to colonial history, tribal warfare, and global conquest, arguing that the left’s narrative is rooted in anti-American sentiment and historical ignorance.
The conversation expands to critique the broader Democratic leadership, including figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, and Gavin Newsom, warning that the “New York City liberal” and “California liberal” brands are becoming toxic in middle America. They praise more moderate Democratic mayors like Daniel Lurie in San Francisco and Muriel Bowser in Washington, D.C., for showing signs of pragmatism, especially in working with President Trump on crime reduction and urban policy.
Trump '28 Unity Ticket?
record-breaking highs in the S&P 500, Dow Jones, and NASDAQ, crediting President Trump’s economic policies for the surge. He contrasts this with media narratives from earlier in the year that predicted economic collapse, emphasizing the disconnect between Wall Street performance and lingering ground-level effects from the Biden-era economy.
The hosts then pivot to Trump’s Asia tour, highlighting his meetings with leaders in Japan, South Korea, and potentially North Korea’s Kim Jong-un. Trump’s comments aboard Air Force One spark speculation about a JD Vance–Marco Rubio unity ticket for 2028, with Clay and Buck debating the plausibility of Trump stepping aside while endorsing his successors.
A major segment features Trump’s challenge to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and Rep. Jasmine Crockett, mocking their intelligence and inviting them to take cognitive tests. Crockett fires back, accusing Trump of elitism and racial obsession, prompting Clay and Buck to critique the intellectual caliber of current congressional representatives across party lines.
Riley Gaines vs. AOC
Riley Gaines discusses her recent clash with AOC over women’s sports. Gaines shares her experience as a new mom, pushing back against cultural narratives that discourage young women from motherhood. She also responds to AOC’s dismissive comments about her athletic achievements, defending her fifth-place NCAA ranking and criticizing the left’s hypocrisy on women’s sports and fairness.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay and Buck one week exactly
until we are officially on the election day of twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Go vote, Virginia, Go vote New York City, Go vote.
I know there are other elections taking place. I voted
for Aldermen today in my town of Franklin, Tennessee. So
a lot of different aspects underway as we move into
the election season of twenty twenty five, and in particular,
(00:38):
by the way, we'll talk with our friend Riley Gaines,
who AOC decided to attack out of nowhere over swimming.
I sometimes I attack. Was texting with Riley yesterday when
this happened that a lot of these attacks seem like
gifts because so many of the people that are attacking
Riley for just saying men shouldn't be involved in women's sports.
(01:02):
I can't believe that this has become such a Democrat
Party orthodoxy that AOC would decide kind of out of
nowhere to just start tweeting at Riley Gains angrily about
her past swimming successes.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Speaking of swimming, I went for a rare dip in
the Atlantic Ocean technically Biscayne Bay over the weekend, and
right around the same time, there was, in fact a
shark attack. Play. Yes, forty six year old guy got attacked.
You sent me the link and I was looking at it,
and uh, I mean, can you imagine if you had
(01:41):
gotten attacked by a shark after all our shot?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is why discussion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm just saying, this is this is I'm starting to
worry about your Alcatraz swim a little bit here, buddy,
which we've already committed to, and I'm going to be
in that launch boat cheering you on, nice and warm
with my Crockett hot Coco where we're going to start
making by then. Uh. But this guy I believe was
snorkeling and it looked like he tried to touch the shark,
which is a bad idea. Well, that's very, very different.
(02:07):
It was not a predatory attack. It was ay, leave
me alone, bite on the hand and he had to
go to the hospital. But technically a shark attack not
far from where I was swimming.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
On Sunday, I was walking into church. This is hundred
percent true.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Guy I had not met before comes up and he
says that he is part of a long distance swimming
team and they have been hearing us talk about he
had swam Catalina, he had swam from Alcatraz, and they
do regular long training sessions and he was offering his
skill set and his team to me as a training companion.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
This is I mean legitimately.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
As I am walking into church on Sunday, this gentleman
I had never met before came up and he wanted
me to know that he had my back on the
swims and that he and the team were ready to
assist as necessary. And I told him, I said, well,
I'm kind of getting a little bit terrified, not of
the swim, but that I'm tempting fate and I'm going
(03:07):
to be eaten by a shark. And he told me
that I would be fine, So I hope he's right.
But yeah, you narrowly avoided attack on a swim in
Biscayn Bay. Speaking of attack Buck, I cannot believe that
New York City is really going to elect Zora on Mamdanni.
(03:31):
And the more videos I watch, the more deep dive
I do on his life story.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm not sure there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Has ever been a more transparent liar that has accomplished
nothing in his life that is poised for an election victory.
Like Mam Donnie is thirty five years old, never really
done anything of any significance in his life, was raised
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in Uganda, and unbelievably, twenty four years after nine to eleven,
we really have hit the Norm McDonald joke where everyone
now says, oh, can you imagine on the left the
Islamophobia that so many victims of nine to eleven had
to deal with, And Mom Donnie claimed to have an
(04:23):
aunt that was afraid to wear her hijab on the
New York City metro after the nine to eleven terror attack,
and now after it was pointed out that the ant
story couldn't possibly have been true.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He now says it wasn't his aunt.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It was actually his father's cousin who passed away a
few years ago. This is after he was caught in
the lie on an ant. Let's play this cut to please.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I was speaking about my aunts.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I was speaking about Santa Fui, my father's cousin sadly.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And for the takeaway for my more than ten minute
address about Islamophobia in this race and in the city
to be, the question of my aunt tells you everything
about Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, why does that?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean if I said to you Buck something that
I mean, I've got two ants that both deceased, But
if I said something very specific about their life story
and a point in my political career, it wouldn't be
unfair for people to say, Okay, tell me about these
ants of yours.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, he made it an issue. Yeah, this is the
Jesse Smalllett. How dare you question me when I'm caught
in my lie?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, yeah, actually that's how this works. A few things
on this clay. One is the lack of first Islamophobia
as a nonsense term. I think Christopher Hitchins once said
it's like a nonsense term used used by thugs to
silence idiots, or something like that. It was Essentially the
whole point of Islamophobia is to create some word that
(06:06):
shuts down criticism of aspects of a faith that now
has about two billion adherents worldwide and is certainly something
that people should be allowed to discuss. Phobia is an
irrational fear of There was a period of time where
there was plenty of rational fear of radicalized elements from
within the Islamic world, and by the way, there still
(06:26):
is plenty of rational discussion to be had about elements
of the Islamic world that are a problem for Western
civilization and for the State of Israel, for America, for
a whole bunch of things. Okay, but putting that aside,
for a second couple of things. One is I mentioned
this yesterday. It is to America's extreme credit that there
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was so little to the American people, There was so
little actual Islamic bigotry on display here after nine to eleven.
Given the scope scale of those attacks and the continued
attacks that happened, this is something that gets lost in
this discussion. Clay, there were further, gee hottiest mass murders
of Americans that went on for the better part of
(07:09):
two decades here. It's kind of slowed down in the
last few years, but it was a regular thing. Oh
another you know, bomb goes off somewhere, or someone's run
down ten people for no reason in the street, and
a mass murder attack. And so with all of that
going on, and we had multiple wars and counterinsurgency operations
going on against Islamist elements, and a you know, billions
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and billions of dollars spent on security, we effectively have
airport security lines because of Islamic radicalism. Thanks Islamic radicalism.
With all of that, they still have to make up
stories like this, Zorn Mamdani. He's not telling a story
about something that would be truly horrific and wrong. Oh
my gosh, the fire bombing of a mosque that occurred
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on you know, in Brooklyn. Right, No, none of that happened.
But he's a theater kid cosplaying a radical, and so
it's totally normal for him to make up the story
of the aunt who, among hundreds of thousands of Muslims
in New York City, was the one who was too
scared to ride the subway with her job. Give me
(08:14):
a break, dude, Clay. The guy's a fake and he's
a phony, but the people voting for him don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, let me hit you with a couple of more
clips that continue to get attention. This is in September
of twenty twenty three. I know most of you know this,
but maybe you've got friends or family out there. I
just saw a report buck that New York City's mayoral
race is on track for the highest turnout since nineteen
(08:41):
ninety three. That was the Rudy Giuliani win.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So wr people in New York City are woken up.
There is a lot of enthusiasm, there's a lot of
interest here. Let me play a couple of these cuts
from Mom Donnie. This is September of twenty twenty three.
We have to make clear this is a quote that
when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck,
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it's been laced by the IDF. This is Mom Donnie again,
cut three September twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
The works for me of international solidarity is that it
takes me out of the American political landscape. That reminds
me just how team some of the pigs are that
aren't actually calling for or and it reminds me of
the necessity of grounding ourselves with struggles as opposed through
the fights around the starts. For anyone to care about
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these issues, we have to make the hype. We have
to make clear that when the food of the MIP
is on your neck, it's been laced by the ideas.
We're in a country where those connections abound, especially in
New York City, you have so many opportunities to make
(10:01):
clear the ways in which fast trouble over. There is
tied to capitalists, that.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You're sober heated.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, let me play one more buck. And again he said,
when the NYPD boot is on your throat, it has
been laced by the IDF. Here he is in twenty
twenty saying we don't need police. They don't create safety.
We need to take the money and defund the NYPD.
(10:29):
This is about as direct as you can be cut
thirty three.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We need to defund these institutions. And I say that
as somebody who has grown up in this city, who
has seen what these cops can do, and who has
seen the ways in which that police have been integrated
into every part of our lives. And we had them
in our high school, so we had them in our
middle schools.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We do not.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Need police to be in these places. They do not
create safety. We need to take this money, defund the NYPD,
and refund the people.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, this is pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The guy has told you what at least he thought
was popular at the time, which is he's a shape
shifting amba that is just an actor more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I think here's the truth, Clay.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's like when they hit him with all these ads,
all Cuomo has run Cuomo's run a garbage campaign relative
to what it should have been for a guy who
you can tell that he's a Nepo baby who became
governor because daddy was governor, and he has a last
name that New York is recognized. He was a horrible governor.
By the way, He's not a good campaigner. He's actually
not a talented politician. He has not run a good
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campaign in the City of New York at all. And
as I've said, if Mamdanni's an f as mayor in waiting,
Cuomo is maybe a C minus better better, but not great,
not great at all. And I think that the attacks
on Mamdanni's saying he doesn't have enough experience, the people
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voting for him don't care, and the attacks on Mamdani
that you and I are are now leveling, which is
that he's clearly a woke radical leftist who is anti
copp at his core Clay. They've already gotten around this
by saying, you know, he believed that. Then he's apologized.
He'll keep Jessica Tish in her role as NYPD commissioner,
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whom everyone respects and by the way, people do respect.
But how long does he keep her in that role,
and does he allow her to actually do the job
the way she wants to does she end up resigning
in a year in frustration because she's handcuffed, so to speak,
from doing the job the way that she should, even
if she's kept in that role the clay that requires
a degree of political wisdom, insight and foresight that you
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and I and all of you with us now have.
But the Mondani voters don't. They're just gonna excuse whatever
they have to excuse. And by the way, a lot
of them think that he's just fooling some of the
normies and is still every bit the radical and they
like that, right, So yeah, you know, you know, we're
preaching to the choir on how anti cop he is,
(12:59):
but they're playing this game very well. In the Mam
Donnie campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We will play another couple of cuts, including Mam Donnie's
dad saying that Hitler learned everything he knows from Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Again, these are directed I would be news to Abraham Lincoln,
which is the most amazing thing. Abe would be like, WHOA,
I didn't know that I learned everything, or rather that
I taught that. He was the inspiration for Naziedom. According
to Mam Donnie's dad, this is what he's been raised
to believe. And this race again, there's data out there
(13:35):
that suggests that we may be headed for the highest
turnout in a mayoral race since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So maybe there is hope that I could be wearing
a red beret for a week. On the program, Curtis
ly was going to join us tomorrow and make the
case for why I'm a moron, and some of you
have us already signed on to that. We'll play some
fun feedback on that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Look.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
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Speaker 3 (15:00):
We have some things to update you on one Clay,
just this is a pickup from yesterday. Remember how I
played Governor Hokeel, the governor of New York, Kathy Hope,
the accidental governor, in fact only the governor because Cuomo
was grabbing ladies by the wayte and kissing them close
(15:20):
to the mouth, but not on the mouth, but an
Italian fashion. Hokeel was claiming that she doesn't even know
what the crowd was changed they were. They were chanting
at the left wing loon rally, tax the rich, tax
the rich. We played that yesterday and I said this,
they're moving from race communism to more old school class communism. Right.
(15:43):
The original communism is just a religion of state envy,
or rather of state and forest envy. That always turns
into palitarianism. That's what real communism is. It's not about
the workers and the revolutionary proletariat, and that's all just
that's all the make believe stuff. Once you get into
like the final boss level of communism, it's just totalitarianism
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that roots itself deep into the public psyche via, envy
and hatred of all that is good. That's what actual
communism is. You know, a envy is at the core
of it all. Here is Kathy Hokel. Though Clay, we're
about I'm gonna play mom Donnie's dad in a second,
but I just wanted to update this. Kathy Hokle realizes that,
you know, she's the government New York maybe going all
(16:26):
in on tax the rich as a slogan that a
rally is not so great. So now she's like, I
don't even know what they were saying and play nine.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I thought they were saying, let's go bills. I wasn't
I wasn't sure. When you're up there, I heard some noise,
I heard a lot of tears. But later on it
became clear to me that there is a I know,
this passion for that, and I went in there as
the leader of the Democratic Party whose job it is
to unify and unifying behind the Democratic nominee. I love
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the energy out there. I told him that. And I
want to do is bottle all that up. You use
it in two days, but take that too long.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Island in the Hudson Valley Clay Kathy hochele, let's play
a game, moron or liar liar here sometimes often a moron.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
But she did not think they were saying let's go bills.
I mean the rich was pretty clear. I mean you
and I could hear it. We were not at the rally,
and if you were at the rally, you would have
seen some people's faces and been able to lip read
them as well as they were chanting tax the rich again.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think there is a quiet panic setting in.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Among Democrats that know what it takes to win elections
that if AOC and Mom Donnie are the face of
the Democrat Party, they're in trouble. And really liberal became
such a negative word for the Democrats that they really
ran away from it. They talk about being progressives now.
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I think New York City liberal and California liberal is
going to be a huge part of the twenty twenty
six campaign. Because I think if you look in New
York City, you're gonna have Mom Donni, You're gonna have AOC,
You're gonna have Schumer, and you're gonna have a gem Jefferies.
That's for New York City guys and gals. And you're
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just gonna say those are New York City Liberals. And
then as Cuomo gear sorry, as Newsome gears up to
run for the presidency, I think California liberal will also
be an insult. And I think increasingly the decisions being
made by places like New York and LA are at
extreme odds with the rest of the country in a
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way that the Democrat Party recognizes as toxic to their
brand in what they would call flyover country, and they
have to win some of those races in order to
have power to enact the agendas of New York and La.
Heck Buck, even San Francisco. I think you got to
give some credit to their new mayor, Daniel Lurie.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He seems sane right on a level that Mom Donnie
is not saying, on a level that Brandon Johnson in
Chicago is not saying, on a level that Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, is not right. Those are
people who are clear failed left wing politicians. I think
some cities, Muriel Bowser seems somewhat reasonable, right, the mayor
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of Washington, D C. The mayor, And I'm saying that
from a Democrat context perspective, not that I agree with
everything they do, but just hey, Trump trying to drive
down violent crime in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Hey, I'm kind of in favor of that. That's Muriel Bowser.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Daniel Lourie, the mayor of San Francisco, actually negotiating with
Trump to try to say, hey, we're trying to implement
a lot of the policies you want to put in place,
but if I do it, maybe we can get it
through without the chaos that might come from people who
just hate you in San Francisco reject the choices you're making,
even when they're rational. My biggest concern Buck is they
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make all these choices that are awful, and then they
still are gonna just say, well, the reason why you
know this didn't work because we didn't tax rich people enough,
because we didn't go far left wing enough. That's the
reason why the policies that we're trying to put in
place fail. That's my concern about Mandani if he wins
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that they will refuse to accept responsibility if he tries
to put these policies in place.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I'm sorry, Claire, are you trying to suggest that if
he's as much of a disaster as you and I
and every sane person with us right now thinks he
will be, the voters of Mandani will claim that real
Mamdanism has never been tried. It's very sad.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's very sad.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
It's very true, very very certain. All right, speaking of
Mandani Mamdani, I will say, also, everyone butchers this guy's
name all the time. You know, it's amazing, It's it
shouldn't be that hard to say. But for some reason,
going from the M to the end, I.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Think am I mispronouncing this? Or is this one of
the few? Is Zoran Mamdani right like I Kimmandanni? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, a lot of people say Mandanni, you know Mamdania.
You know, they get all kinds of things going on here.
All right, let's get into his dad. Let's talk about
his dad for a second.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Here.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Zora Mamdani's father, who's a Columbia University professor. Of course, uh,
Mahmoud Mamdanni here he this is well, this is not
long ago. Here is Zoran's dad on this country. That remember,
Zoran is here as a refugee. Zoran is here because
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the place that he came from was not a place
he could stay, right, I mean that's my I think
his dad came here from Uganda, and whether he's not
technical a refugee, he's certainly an immigrant because Uganda it's
got problems, got a little bit of not.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
A place that a lot of people choose to go
from a western, civil wise country, right, there's just not
that many people are like, hey, were you headed next?
I was thinking about America, I was thinking about England,
maybe maybe Germany, and then I chose Uganda instead. I
don't think a lot of people make that choice. It
was Italy or it was Uganda. Yeah, most people, including
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Mamdannie's own family, have made the choice to come back.
I do love Buck that while he doesn't trust the
NYPD when he goes to Uganda, they have a full
security force protecting the family. Yes, but of course, but
of course here is his dad back In twenty twenty two,
Columbia University Professor Professor Mamdani play at six.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism,
and the American model was exported all around the world.
Abraham Lincoln generalized the solution of reservations. They herded American
Indians into separate territories for the Nazis. For the Nazis,
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this was the inspiration. Hitler realized two things. One, the
genocide was doable. It is possible to do genocide. That's
what Hitler realized. Second thing Hitler realized is that you
don't have to have a common citizenship. You can differentiate
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between people. The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway,
the US put Indians in reservations. The US invented the model.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
This is not true. Mean, first of when we talk
about settler colonialism, I think he's trying to speak specifically
in the context of Israel as an apartheid state here,
because obviously America was a colony, was a colony of settlers,
and then we fought a revolution to become free. I
don't know if he just skiped that part of American history,
but it turned it was actually the Spanish, the French,
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the Dutch, the British, they were the ones who cated
this model. This is actually this argument that he makes, Buck,
This is why I was so annoyed and have not
given them. What annoys Clay the most is not the
hatred of America. It's the wrong history gets wrong. The
You can hate America, you have the right to hate America,
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but at least rooted in historical accuracy.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
This is like the the and don't placate.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Those who hate America and are rooted in historical stupidity.
This is like what happened at my university, George Washington
University GW is now the revolutionaries. They were the colonials,
but they decided that the colonials had too much of
a context of connection to colonialism, so they changed the
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name of the mascot.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We weren't the colonial army. We were the allenized who
threw off the oppressive colonialism that we were founded upon.
Right So, if anything, in the history, were the heroes
of the colonial worldview, because we took independence from the
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places that had colonized us. In fact, there countries were
very explicitly the removal of the colonial overlord was premised
upon the American success in this right. One example would
be Haiti Haiti.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
But success of the revolution in the western hemisphere probably,
But yes, buck to your point, when in New York
City where you grew up, one of the first things
they did was tear down the statue of the King
and turn it into lead bullets. I mean that is
pretty explicitly anti anti the colonial power that puts you
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in place. So yes, his his argument is bastardized. And
what is really designed to do, and this is where
the identity politics worldview comes in is white men are evil.
If you look at what the motivation is by and
large of the modern day Democrat Party at its essence,
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at its base, it is white men are evil. That's
what they all believe. Now, some of those white men
you know who take their wives names are voting also
to say white men are evil. There's a not in
substantial cadre of white people that they are collaborator or evil.
They are collaborators, and some would argue white women are
actually the founders and primary principal drivers of the woke
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virus in general. In fact, I think that's likely true,
but it relies on the villainy of white men that
is the foundation of the Democrat Party. And so when
Momdanni's dad is making the argument that all that is
evil is rooted in the Unit States, it's an intentional
argument because what it leads to is a delegitimization of
(27:05):
the country and its founding and the declaration of independence
and the Constitution, and you can tear it all down,
as we saw physically happen in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
There's also an argument that I've thought of maybe clay
for a future book, but it would be very detailed
in history and have to get deep into the history.
But one of the one of the challenges that the
Western world has when it comes to all of this
wokeness and historical oppression stuff, is that we actually have
histories written histories that go back quite a ways. A
(27:34):
lot of other parts of the world don't, yeah, and
so it's harder for people to know. For example, like
you you all know that the Portuguese and the Spanish
and the French and the British, et cetera. Western European
countries and the age of exploration starting right around the
early fifteen hundreds, after figured the most Lands in fourteen
ninety two, they start going all over the world. They
start exploring and yes, they fight and they take over
(27:55):
pieces of land, sometimes more peacefully than others, but a
lot of the time with violence, and a lot of
the time they spread these But do people know about
all of the tribes that were exterminating each other beforehand?
Do people know that the great victory of the Inca people,
for example, was the consolidation of their empire just a
generation before the arrival of the Spaniards, the consolidation of
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an empire that enslaved and murdered countless other tribes. They
don't even talk about this. You talk about the native
South Africans. And this came up recently when Trump was
talking about South African refugees. How many of the people
that teach about colonial settler colonialism, for example, at Columbia University,
even though that the Zulus were colonists. The Zulu tribe
(28:38):
arrived and through warfare and conquest an enslavement of those
who were there in advance of the Zulus became the
primary tribe in that region, and the areas that originally
the South African Dutch colonists colonized were uninhabited. Well, I mean,
this is just not taught. No one knows these things
this is all true. This is also the story of
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human civilization is human populations moved to areas where there
was no people, right, Like, so, at what point does land?
It's really kind of amazing, right, The whole argument is
premised on to your point, a fact that the historical
record is very limited. But land is like, at what
(29:22):
point do you say, oh, this land is owned by someone,
when do they become the owners? And the whole premise
is just absolutely ridiculous. Also, these land acknowledgments which are
now the basis of almost every major Democrat event. You know,
they start off by apologizing to the initial owners of
the of the land or dwellers of the land. The
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great exterminators, if you're going to look for them, of
other human beings, would certainly be the Mongols. Actually in
the thirteenth how many have you sit around thinking a
lot about the Korrasmi and Empire. You might not have
even heard of the core. It was actually huge, it
was gone. They killed basically all of them, the Mongols.
They showed up. They didn't like them. They killed all
of them, every man, woman and child, because that's how
they used to do things. The notion clay that America
(30:06):
came up with the idea of genocide in all of
human history. Is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Only a truly historically ignorant person who hates white men
would say such a thing. And that is where Mundani's
dad comes down on this. We're bringing it full circle.
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Welcome back in our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton
show a lot of positive things. I always try to
make sure that I talk about the positivity as much
as I possibly can. We are continuing to set new
all time records. In fact, the S and P five
hundred new all time record as I am speaking to you,
(32:32):
the dal Jones Industrial average new all time record as
I am speaking to you, and the NASDAK new all
time record as I am speaking with you, all time records.
For those of you out there that own stock in
any way pensions four oh one k's individual stocks, chances
(32:53):
are if you happen to go gander at your stock values,
they have never been higher in your life. And I
do just want to continue to point it out that
in April you were told, oh my goodness, the stock
market is collapsing. Donald Trump has no idea what he's
doing with the economy, and the S and P five
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hundred is up two thousand points since then. If you
had bought stock back in April, you're up around forty
percent now, on those stock purchases.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
If if you merely just held.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
On to your existing stocks and just didn't even pay
attention to any of it. This year, the S and
P five hundred is up right at eighteen percent so far.
You might say, okay, well, Clay, how does that contextualize?
On average? On average, the S and P five hundred
is going to be up around nine percent on average.
Some years you might lose twenty, some years you may
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make twenty. But this year is a very good year
so far for stocks, and we are at record highs.
So I understand also those of you out there say,
Clay Man, you don't know what you're talking about. The
economy is not as good on the ground as you're saying.
I get it, and I think a lot of that
is still working through the disaster that was the Biden economy.
(34:16):
In general, the stock market runs six or twelve months
in advance of the economic conditions you see on the ground,
and so all of this is very positive. Trump is
trying to make the economic conditions better for all of
us on the ground, and right now he's in Asia,
he is meeting with Japan. I saw this morning that
(34:36):
he had a great reception in Japan. He is scheduled
to be in South Korea. Buck, I don't know if
you saw this, some whispers that he might meet Kim
Jong un again.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Remember how quickly the meeting with North Korea's reclusive dictator
happened in the past. He's going to be in South Korea,
Trump is He's going to be meeting with Chinese Premier
g So there is some pot usibility. Maybe there'll be
additional aspects of that. As part of his travel. On
Air Force One, Trump has been asked answering questions quite
(35:09):
a lot. And among those questions, let's play a couple
of these cuts, because I thought they were entertaining, and
I want to make sure that we keep you updated
with what the President is saying. Even as we are
following the New York City's mayor race tomorrow we will
have Curtis Sliwa on the program, and even as we
are following what's going on in New Jersey and Virginia.
(35:29):
One week from today is the twenty twenty five elections.
Also coming up on the one year anniversary of Trump's
record win in twenty twenty four, but Trump yesterday on
Air Force One was asked about would he be running
in twenty twenty eight. This obsession here is cut twenty one.
Speaker 11 (35:48):
We have great people. I don't have to get into them,
but we have one of them standing right here. We
have JD. Obviously, the vice president is great. I think
Mark is great. I think, how do you if anybody
would run against us? I think if there before the
group would be let's stop.
Speaker 12 (36:06):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I believe that I would.
Speaker 11 (36:08):
I would, I would love to do it. I have
my best numbers. Ever, it's very terrible. I have my
best numbers.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
You read it.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Am I not.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
Ruling it out.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
You'll have to tell me.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Okay, so Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I do think the idea of a JD.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Marco ticket unity from the start is starting to get
some momentum.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Do you buy the idea that that duo. Marco Rubio
obviously has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside
of the Trump administration right now, primarily Secretary of State.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
JD. Van's VP do.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
You buy the idea that those guys might just say, hey,
let's keep the band together and have a unity ticket
and we might not even see that much drama in
twenty twenty eight, that Trump might just say, hey, these
are my guys.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm not gonna run.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, yeah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You buy this.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I mean, because I'm starting to think it's more and
more of a possibility that they just say, hey, we're
a unity ticket, We're Trump three two point oh, three
point oh. However you want to say it, and let's
not have all the drama of this huge fight. Let's
just keep things rolling. What do you think is it
too clean? It all sounds great and it would be
phenomenal in so many ways. A lot could happen in
(37:43):
two and a half years, my friends, So you know,
this is this is the thing. This is the way
we think the story should go, And that to me
means it's unlikely that that is the way the story
will play out. That's how I view this.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, it should go.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
There is a pathway. But remember I was I was
doing shows Clay in twenty nineteen. You know, I was
doing the solo Buck shows in twenty nineteen, where I
was saying, guys, the country, things are great, enjoy it.
Trump's kicking ass, Economy's phenomenal. We're at peace. You know,
things are great. And then boom, a few.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in your
apartment in New York City.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
We don't have we don't have to go back to
that trauma every time. You know, it was very difficult.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I still want to see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
I would I mean this, I walked into your apartment.
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, just basically like March
(38:55):
and April and maybe a little bit of May. People
were like, eh, you know a little bit, and.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Then it was kind of over.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And then every time I see people, you some of
you guys still have a lot of post traumatic stress.
You la your New York Chicago residents who really had
to go through the chaos and the insanity.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
LA people most a lot of them had yards more so, whether.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
More so, but I mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle borders.
I mean, I mean this was it wouldn't even let
him walk on.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The I'm just saying New York turned into a turn
to a prison camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to experience the city. Anybody who has
ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments that
I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
I would have lost my mind. I certainly wouldn't have
been able to stay.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Trump being Trump, by the way, in addition to saying hey,
JD and Marco could be an incredible team, he also
decided to tee off on Jasmine Crockett and he challenged
them to a cognitive test AOC. We're going to talk
about AOC coming out to our friend Riley Gaines here
in a moment. But Trump also challenged AOC and Jasmine
Crockett to a cognitive test, and you'll want to hear
(40:07):
this cut twenty two.
Speaker 11 (40:08):
So I can tell you is that we have a
great group of people, which they don't. They have Jazzmin Crockett,
a low IQ person.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
They have.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ test, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Read I took that's a
very hard they're really after two tests. I guess at
a certain point when they're cognitive tests. Let AOC go
against Trump, Let Jasmine go against some I don't think
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Jasmine the first couple of questions there is the a
tiger and elephant that you have, you know when you
get up to about five or six, and then when
you get up to ten at twenty and twenty five,
they couldn't come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I mean, he is just you know what's on.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
You know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again,
and I think that he does. Just like to say
that he's gonna run again, because it up sets the
libs so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay,
our jobs will never be as entertaining as they have
been in the Trump era because he makes you, guys,
even remember what it was like back in the days
(41:17):
when oh, everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It
was boring and generally useless and often lies and wrong.
In the Bush era, whatever, you know, people just said stuff.
You know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little
spicy toward the end, as we know, but in general,
we did not have a president who just says hilarious
things all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they are showing
you pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test,
but just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again, because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(41:59):
I I really, I feel like so many people who.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Have Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an
inability to process tone and context, because I mean, how
could you not laugh at this at the end of
this answer. Maybe we don't have the ability to point
out abody.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
Yeah, they really apt to tests, I guess at a
second point, but nick cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump,
Let Jasmine go against some I know they get a
Jasmine the first.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Couple of questions.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
There is a tiger and elephant that you have, you know,
when you get up to about five or six, and
then when you get up to ten and twenty and
twenty five, they couldn't come close to answering any of
those questions.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has fireback buck. Jasmine Crockett says,
I got into college on my own. Trump didn't. This
is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has a
low IQ, got twenty three.
Speaker 12 (43:00):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you
Kln that finally ask him what is his IQ, because
he is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what
a low IQ is. He don't even know which scores
are low. And I can guarantee you that whatever score,
if he's taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his
qualifies as low. Listen, he's never been known to be
an Einstein. This is not a guy who got in
(43:21):
on marriage when it came to going to college. This
is someone who, but for him being born with a
silver spoon, probably wouldn't have got into anybody's.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Institution, unlike me.
Speaker 12 (43:31):
So, you know, I am not worried about that, and
I wish people would look at the fact that you
have a president of the United States who consistently is
obsessing over two women of color that are members of
the House.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
And it's not just Jasmin Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. You know who's really
just appointed by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There
are a lot of people who represent us in Congress
(44:06):
and in the Senate that are not high intellect.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That's not ideal. They're also not great communicators that is
really not ideal. Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats,
Independence by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great
communicators out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed
in politics was that he could have the success he
(44:32):
had with no background in politics, because there are a
lot of lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing
around candidly when it comes to arguments and it comes
to the political direction of the country. All true, and
this is why we continue to hope for reform of
our government system. Yet we have people who are so
(44:54):
often buffoons representing us our government system. So there's a
problem there. It's a bit like how we all want
to tackle the debt, but we don't want any of
the good spending to stop. Talk more about this. The
look AI is being used in our everyday lives more
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Speaker 1 (46:19):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
excited to be joined by our friend Riley Gaines. I
don't think you've been on since you officially became a mom,
so let's start there before we get into you versus AOC.
What has We have a lot of moms out there
and dads. Buck is a recent new dad. As you know,
(46:41):
what has most surprised you about being a mom that
maybe you didn't anticipate?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
How has it gone so far?
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Do you have any advice for maybe expectant moms that
might be out there listening that have not had baby
one yet based on your experience and congratulations, well.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
Thank you, and congratulations to Buck two. Look, I will
say the thing that has surprised me most is, honestly,
and look, I know my experience is you know one thing,
and it is very different than other women. But honestly,
how easy it is. I think, especially as women, especially
as younger women, you get wrapped up in all the
horror stories. I heard them all during pregnancy. Everyone told me,
(47:23):
you know, well, you just wait, and I kept waiting
and waiting, and none of the bad things that all
of the women said were going to happen happened to me.
I had a fantastic pregnancy. And then it was okay,
well you just wait until delivery, and delivery came, she
was born and the process was a breeze, and then
it was okay, well you just ban up on your
sleep now because you're not going to get any sleep
when she's here. And let me tell you, I've slept
(47:44):
like a dream. She's been just the best baby. And
so I think the message that I want to send
is that there are good stories out there too. It
has been just the most magical past four weeks. She
will be a month tomorrow, which is insane.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's gone so quick, isn't the best? Riley the first one,
it's my first one too, It's been so much fun.
And honestly, I share a lot of your sentiment because people,
and I know a lot of it was well intentioned,
but there's this, you know, oh, congratulation to the baby,
You're never going to sleep again and your life is
going to be so hard. That wasn't even true for us.
The baby was about was hit the five months sleep progression,
(48:21):
and we've actually since worked with the baby and now
sleeping great again. But our baby slept like a baby.
It was fine, and it's been amazing, and I just
want more of them. I don't know. I just feel
like there's a little bit of a strange even on
the right, a strange cultural like batten down the hatches
thing where everything I mean, you were you were a
super high level swimmer. I'm sure you had to get
(48:42):
up at five o'clock in the morning a lot and
spend a lot of time in the pool, and that's
not always fun or what you want to do. But
it's really worthwhile.
Speaker 9 (48:51):
That's it, And that's the exact same with motherhood. I
think there's an attempt to san especially when we're talking
about younger women too, to scare them out of it, honestly,
and I think you guys both know we live in
this what aboutism culture where you share these stories and
you almost feel shameful for doing it because you'll have
(49:11):
someone else who will say, well, what about my experience
or what about this? And you know they want us
to feel shameful for having these great experiences. But I'm
just here to say, hasn't been that way with us.
We've had a fantastic experience.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
I just want to say, Riley, I've had people yell
at me before because I just shared the positive experience
that I've had of making walking a part of my
daily routine. People get mad at me, like, of course
you think walking is you know, mister, like radio, I
thought walking, I mean, unless you have some real problem,
like that's something we could all enjoy and share in.
But I just want to tell you, even when you
(49:45):
give people the most solid and positive and kind hearted advice,
there will be people who are angry at you.
Speaker 9 (49:52):
A hundred percent. Yeah, walking probably also makes you a
racist too, So it.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Is funny that you would say, yeah, you got to
give reparate, that you would say that anybody would say, hey,
maybe you should just walk a little bit more, and
the response is, well, you're elitist, like I think walking
something that most of us share. All Right, So you
texted me yesterday and it reminded me of you texting
me when Simone Biles came after you. So, for those
(50:20):
who do not know, AOC decided kind of out of nowhere.
I mean, you tell us the story Riley to just
attack you, And I think my immediate response was this
is so great for you, which was the same thing
when Simone Biles did it. And I'm sure you had
the same reaction because there's so many fake accounts out there.
Like my initial reaction is, Okay, let's make sure it's
(50:43):
actually Simone Biles. Let's make sure it's actually AOC, because
this is such a ridiculous bad angle to be attacking
someone on that I can't.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Believe it's real.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
So tell people who don't know, you're sitting around yesterday
afternoon and AOC decides about of the blue to come
after you, what happened?
Speaker 9 (51:03):
It's so funny you mentioned that about SMO and Biles,
because honestly, it's virtually like the exact same realization and
actions that I went through when this happened. Because I'm
sitting there now, especially being a new mom, I'm not
on my phone all the time, but I see this
notification pop up and it says, you know, AOC mentioned
you in a comment. I click on it and I
(51:24):
read it, and it says something to the effect of,
if you channeled all of your anger towards swimming, maybe
you would have been faster or something to the effect.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Better than the fifth, better than fifth in all of
American NCAA swimmers. This is the line of attacks she
decided to hit you with. You're only the fifth best
at something in the entire United States. That doesn't I'd
love to be the fifth best at anything, by the way,
but yes, that's what she decided to attack you with.
Speaker 9 (51:54):
It is so true, like it proves this line of
defense or these arguments that they're using. It proves that
they know nothing about sports. And honestly, it's pretty utterly
misogynistic because I mean, you think about a Clay would
she call the fifth best college football player in the nation,
mediocre or sport, bad at his sport or whatever, or
(52:15):
the fifth best college basketball player. No way, she wouldn't
say that, but because it's number one. I think women's sports,
which is hilarious because they claim to care about and
watch women's sports, and too, I think a less mainstream
sport like swimming. Of course, this is more of a
niche sport. It's if you're not the best, if you're
not on the Olympic team, if you're not getting gold
(52:35):
medals at the Olympics, then you're actually just not good
at your sport. And that was AOC's line of defense,
so or her her argument that she went with there.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
And so.
Speaker 9 (52:47):
I just think you can have this six foot go ahead.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
No, no, no, you go ahead. I didn't have it, didn't
want to off. You could probably go ahead.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
No.
Speaker 9 (52:55):
I think the point is you have two sides of
this argument. One side is to be with and standing
for women who merely want fair competition, safety in their sports,
and privacy and areas of undressing. And the other side
is the side of the six foot four man who
was four hundred and sixty second the year prior when
competing against the men, and who flashes women in the
(53:16):
locker room, and AOC made the side that she chose
very clear.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Now I have to ask you, Riley, because you understand
how competitive sports are, and you're somebody who knows the
work that has to go into it and just the
the realities of the sports world. We haven't really gotten
to know each other that well, but there's a controversy
out there about whether or not as a recreational middle
(53:44):
aged tennis player, I will be able to get one
hundred mile an hour serve on camera as evidence by
a speed gun.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Now, I gotta be let me interrupt him here. This
has been several months where he hasn't in good weather.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I'm just going to point out where they're hasn't been
a test going on, Riley, just for your ability and erriga. Riley,
just you understand we already have a ninety seven on
the record, Okay, ninety seven miles an hour, But Clay
and some of the doubters in this audience think that
I will not be able to with a little more
limber shoulder and a little little more you know of
(54:20):
the old Riley.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
During the show commercial break, he has a rubber band
that he is stretching out his shoulder with.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Play that the trust tree. That's not for airing on
the radio anyway. I mean, there's got to be a
clip of this.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Do you think? Do you think what side of this
bet I have till the end of the year. I'll
decide that much I have till the end of the year,
which now takes me through. I got about, you know,
eight weeks to get this done. Can it be done
by yours truly? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 9 (54:50):
Honestly, Buck, I think there is a more plausible chance
of you serving a one hundred miles per hour serve
than there is Clay Travis is actually swimming Alcatraz.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
I look, I'm just sitting here, innocent and much like
much like Riley when AOC came after. I'm just a nice, kind,
considerate person here and I just got two by four
hacksaw Jim Duggan style by Riley here, which I.
Speaker 9 (55:17):
Invited Clay in July. You're both invited next toly to
do this. I think we could we could make something
out of it.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Can I doggy paddle the Alcatraz swim? Or is that just?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Is that too?
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Ghost?
Speaker 9 (55:31):
Honestly, the worst part is how cold it is. Oh,
it's the worst part of all of it.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
I am both less brilliant and less insulated than I
used to be clay, so that may that's that's one
of the few times this was not to my advantage.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, I saw your husband Louis, and he was saying
that there are moments where you think about sharks. Did
you think this is the part that I'm actually now
is in my head. I'm not gonna lie the idea
of getting attacked by a shark while trying to do this.
You did this pregnant. Did you truly have no fear
of sharks at all?
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Riley?
Speaker 1 (56:04):
When you got in the water, like didn't even cross
your mind. Or at some point when you're in the
depth of the swim there, did you think, hey, this
is a little bit scary.
Speaker 9 (56:16):
It's so funny looking back, because you're right, I did
this at gosh, seven months pregnant, and you're you're kind
of in the middle of the ocean and you reach
a point where it gets really cold, and I think
that indicates, of course that you know, the water gets deeper,
and in those moments it's a been unsettling, like, oh gosh,
what is swimming underneath me. But sharks, I'm I don't
think I'm really scared of sharks. I watched soul surfer
(56:39):
growing up as Aty Hamilton. Actually it's just I mean,
she's a dear friend of mine, but sharks are never
something that that really scared me.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Leui.
Speaker 9 (56:47):
He's actually sat right next to me. We're in the
car together. Now, he's just as sissy as what it is.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
I'm a sissy with Louis. Then let me ask you
this though. Back on the aoc h Riley and tell
Louis we said hi too. Why do you think she
decided to attack you kind of out of nowhere? It's
the same question that I had when I saw Simone
Biles come after you. It's not an attack that makes
her look better to your point, being attacking someone for
(57:19):
only being the fifth best at something. Again, I would
love to be the fifth best at anything. So with
everybody out there listening, it's not a good line of attack.
Where is this coming from? Is it organized? Do you
think somebody is asking her to do it? Was she
looking for this opportunity and then you've offered a debater
and she followed up again? I think you were on
(57:39):
with Laura Ingram last night. Where is all of this
coming from in your mind?
Speaker 9 (57:45):
Well, it is interesting because when you compare this to Simone,
because Simone and her argument, I mean, you would imagine
that an olympian, the best of the best, she's like
in a total league of her own. There's no one
even close to her. You would imagine she would understand
and approach just from an athlete, which of course she didn't,
but she didn't necessarily have to be politically competent in
(58:05):
AOC her position, of course is Marley bankrupt, But it's
just totally politically ignorant. Not only is this something that
I mean ninety nine one hundred percent of the Republican
Party and those who voted for Donald Trump, the seventy
seven million people who voted for Donald Trump agree with
that men shouldn't be in women's sports. But it's what,
like I would say, eighty percent of the Democratic Party.
(58:27):
I think the number in the Gallup polls has been
somewhere between sixty seventy. I think it's more than that
of their own party that don't agree with them. And
so why is she doing this? I think it's something
that's successful on social media platforms where you can kind
of acquire that cesspool of radical, insane lunatics, which those
exist on X. I mean, I think her initial post
(58:49):
got what like forty five million views, So you can
imagine the past twenty four hours what my message is
on all platforms, like when you're having to feel yield
forty five million AOC cronies who just follow her page
and listen to what she says. But I don't know,
it's not politically expedient at all. And I think that
(59:12):
the terrifying point here is that this is the leader
of their party. People like Crockett and AOC and Mom Donnie.
That that's who all other Democrats at all levels. By
the way, that's who they look to try to find
me a moderate Democrat. Clay, I think you tweeted it
a few weeks ago talking about how Fetterman was the
most sane Democrat and it's there's not even a close second.
(59:36):
Like try and try and think of a modern democrat
at any level. I mean, there just isn't one. So
this is the this is their party's leader. This is
what I guess they believe will work, but we will
continue to see them lose in twenty twenty six and
twenty twenty eight, and further on if they continue with
(59:56):
I mean supporting the policies, the harmful policy is that
they support.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Thank you so much, Riley for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You congrats to you and Louie.
Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
Yep, well, thank you guys. I want to see a
video of bucking this commercial break.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Oh, this serve, this server is gonna happen, everybody, It's
gonna happen. I wish you could see him with the
rubber band trying to loosen up the right shoulder in
the commercial breaks.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
I mean, that was the trust that was in the.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Trust tree, that was in the trust tree in Clay's
now violating trust tree. Okay, that's enough of that. But yes, Riley,
I am trying to limber up this old man's shoulder
just a little bit like the backstroke, only for the
tennis court. Thank you for being here, Riley.
Speaker 9 (01:00:37):
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Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay and Buck one week exactly
until we are officially on the election day of twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Go vote, Virginia, Go vote New York City, Go vote.
I know there are other elections taking place. I voted
for Aldermen today in my town of Franklin, Tennessee. So
a lot of different aspects underway as we move into
the election season of twenty twenty five, and in particular,
(00:38):
by the way, we'll talk with our friend Riley Gaines,
who AOC decided to attack out of nowhere over swimming.
I sometimes I attack. Was texting with Riley yesterday when
this happened that a lot of these attacks seem like
gifts because so many of the people that are attacking
Riley for just saying men shouldn't be involved in women's sports.
(01:02):
I can't believe that this has become such a Democrat
Party orthodoxy that AOC would decide kind of out of
nowhere to just start tweeting at Riley Gains angrily about
her past swimming successes.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Speaking of swimming, I went for a rare dip in
the Atlantic Ocean technically Biscayne Bay over the weekend, and
right around the same time, there was, in fact a
shark attack. Play. Yes, forty six year old guy got attacked.
You sent me the link and I was looking at it,
and uh, I mean, can you imagine if you had
(01:41):
gotten attacked by a shark after all our shot?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is why discussion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm just saying, this is this is I'm starting to
worry about your Alcatraz swim a little bit here, buddy,
which we've already committed to, and I'm going to be
in that launch boat cheering you on, nice and warm
with my Crockett hot Coco where we're going to start
making by then. Uh. But this guy I believe was
snorkeling and it looked like he tried to touch the shark,
which is a bad idea. Well, that's very, very different.
(02:07):
It was not a predatory attack. It was ay, leave
me alone, bite on the hand and he had to
go to the hospital. But technically a shark attack not
far from where I was swimming.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
On Sunday, I was walking into church. This is hundred
percent true.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Guy I had not met before comes up and he
says that he is part of a long distance swimming
team and they have been hearing us talk about he
had swam Catalina, he had swam from Alcatraz, and they
do regular long training sessions and he was offering his
skill set and his team to me as a training companion.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
This is I mean legitimately.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
As I am walking into church on Sunday, this gentleman
I had never met before came up and he wanted
me to know that he had my back on the
swims and that he and the team were ready to
assist as necessary. And I told him, I said, well,
I'm kind of getting a little bit terrified, not of
the swim, but that I'm tempting fate and I'm going
(03:07):
to be eaten by a shark. And he told me
that I would be fine, So I hope he's right.
But yeah, you narrowly avoided attack on a swim in
Biscayn Bay. Speaking of attack Buck, I cannot believe that
New York City is really going to elect Zora on Mamdanni.
(03:31):
And the more videos I watch, the more deep dive
I do on his life story.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm not sure there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Has ever been a more transparent liar that has accomplished
nothing in his life that is poised for an election victory.
Like Mam Donnie is thirty five years old, never really
done anything of any significance in his life, was raised
(04:02):
in Uganda, and unbelievably, twenty four years after nine to eleven,
we really have hit the Norm McDonald joke where everyone
now says, oh, can you imagine on the left the
Islamophobia that so many victims of nine to eleven had
to deal with, And Mom Donnie claimed to have an
(04:23):
aunt that was afraid to wear her hijab on the
New York City metro after the nine to eleven terror attack,
and now after it was pointed out that the ant
story couldn't possibly have been true.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He now says it wasn't his aunt.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It was actually his father's cousin who passed away a
few years ago. This is after he was caught in
the lie on an ant. Let's play this cut to please.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I was speaking about my aunts.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I was speaking about Santa Fui, my father's cousin sadly.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And for the takeaway for my more than ten minute
address about Islamophobia in this race and in the city
to be, the question of my aunt tells you everything
about Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, why does that?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean if I said to you Buck something that
I mean, I've got two ants that both deceased, But
if I said something very specific about their life story
and a point in my political career, it wouldn't be
unfair for people to say, Okay, tell me about these
ants of yours.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, he made it an issue. Yeah, this is the
Jesse Smalllett. How dare you question me when I'm caught
in my lie?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, yeah, actually that's how this works. A few things
on this clay. One is the lack of first Islamophobia
as a nonsense term. I think Christopher Hitchins once said
it's like a nonsense term used used by thugs to
silence idiots, or something like that. It was Essentially the
whole point of Islamophobia is to create some word that
(06:06):
shuts down criticism of aspects of a faith that now
has about two billion adherents worldwide and is certainly something
that people should be allowed to discuss. Phobia is an
irrational fear of There was a period of time where
there was plenty of rational fear of radicalized elements from
within the Islamic world, and by the way, there still
(06:26):
is plenty of rational discussion to be had about elements
of the Islamic world that are a problem for Western
civilization and for the State of Israel, for America, for
a whole bunch of things. Okay, but putting that aside,
for a second couple of things. One is I mentioned
this yesterday. It is to America's extreme credit that there
(06:48):
was so little to the American people, There was so
little actual Islamic bigotry on display here after nine to eleven.
Given the scope scale of those attacks and the continued
attacks that happened, this is something that gets lost in
this discussion. Clay, there were further, gee hottiest mass murders
of Americans that went on for the better part of
(07:09):
two decades here. It's kind of slowed down in the
last few years, but it was a regular thing. Oh
another you know, bomb goes off somewhere, or someone's run
down ten people for no reason in the street, and
a mass murder attack. And so with all of that
going on, and we had multiple wars and counterinsurgency operations
going on against Islamist elements, and a you know, billions
(07:33):
and billions of dollars spent on security, we effectively have
airport security lines because of Islamic radicalism. Thanks Islamic radicalism.
With all of that, they still have to make up
stories like this, Zorn Mamdani. He's not telling a story
about something that would be truly horrific and wrong. Oh
my gosh, the fire bombing of a mosque that occurred
(07:54):
on you know, in Brooklyn. Right, No, none of that happened.
But he's a theater kid cosplaying a radical, and so
it's totally normal for him to make up the story
of the aunt who, among hundreds of thousands of Muslims
in New York City, was the one who was too
scared to ride the subway with her job. Give me
(08:14):
a break, dude, Clay. The guy's a fake and he's
a phony, but the people voting for him don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, let me hit you with a couple of more
clips that continue to get attention. This is in September
of twenty twenty three. I know most of you know this,
but maybe you've got friends or family out there. I
just saw a report buck that New York City's mayoral
race is on track for the highest turnout since nineteen
(08:41):
ninety three. That was the Rudy Giuliani win.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So wr people in New York City are woken up.
There is a lot of enthusiasm, there's a lot of
interest here. Let me play a couple of these cuts
from Mom Donnie. This is September of twenty twenty three.
We have to make clear this is a quote that
when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck,
(09:08):
it's been laced by the IDF. This is Mom Donnie again,
cut three September twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
The works for me of international solidarity is that it
takes me out of the American political landscape. That reminds
me just how team some of the pigs are that
aren't actually calling for or and it reminds me of
the necessity of grounding ourselves with struggles as opposed through
the fights around the starts. For anyone to care about
(09:40):
these issues, we have to make the hype. We have
to make clear that when the food of the MIP
is on your neck, it's been laced by the ideas.
We're in a country where those connections abound, especially in
New York City, you have so many opportunities to make
(10:01):
clear the ways in which fast trouble over. There is
tied to capitalists, that.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You're sober heated.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, let me play one more buck. And again he said,
when the NYPD boot is on your throat, it has
been laced by the IDF. Here he is in twenty
twenty saying we don't need police. They don't create safety.
We need to take the money and defund the NYPD.
(10:29):
This is about as direct as you can be cut
thirty three.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We need to defund these institutions. And I say that
as somebody who has grown up in this city, who
has seen what these cops can do, and who has
seen the ways in which that police have been integrated
into every part of our lives. And we had them
in our high school, so we had them in our
middle schools.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We do not.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Need police to be in these places. They do not
create safety. We need to take this money, defund the NYPD,
and refund the people.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, this is pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
The guy has told you what at least he thought
was popular at the time, which is he's a shape
shifting amba that is just an actor more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I think here's the truth, Clay.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's like when they hit him with all these ads,
all Cuomo has run Cuomo's run a garbage campaign relative
to what it should have been for a guy who
you can tell that he's a Nepo baby who became
governor because daddy was governor, and he has a last
name that New York is recognized. He was a horrible governor.
By the way, He's not a good campaigner. He's actually
not a talented politician. He has not run a good
(11:35):
campaign in the City of New York at all. And
as I've said, if Mamdanni's an f as mayor in waiting,
Cuomo is maybe a C minus better better, but not great,
not great at all. And I think that the attacks
on Mamdanni's saying he doesn't have enough experience, the people
(11:55):
voting for him don't care, and the attacks on Mamdani
that you and I are are now leveling, which is
that he's clearly a woke radical leftist who is anti
copp at his core Clay. They've already gotten around this
by saying, you know, he believed that. Then he's apologized.
He'll keep Jessica Tish in her role as NYPD commissioner,
(12:16):
whom everyone respects and by the way, people do respect.
But how long does he keep her in that role,
and does he allow her to actually do the job
the way she wants to does she end up resigning
in a year in frustration because she's handcuffed, so to speak,
from doing the job the way that she should, even
if she's kept in that role the clay that requires
a degree of political wisdom, insight and foresight that you
(12:39):
and I and all of you with us now have.
But the Mondani voters don't. They're just gonna excuse whatever
they have to excuse. And by the way, a lot
of them think that he's just fooling some of the
normies and is still every bit the radical and they
like that, right, So yeah, you know, you know, we're
preaching to the choir on how anti cop he is,
(12:59):
but they're playing this game very well. In the Mam
Donnie campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We will play another couple of cuts, including Mam Donnie's
dad saying that Hitler learned everything he knows from Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Again, these are directed I would be news to Abraham Lincoln,
which is the most amazing thing. Abe would be like, WHOA,
I didn't know that I learned everything, or rather that
I taught that. He was the inspiration for Naziedom. According
to Mam Donnie's dad, this is what he's been raised
to believe. And this race again, there's data out there
(13:35):
that suggests that we may be headed for the highest
turnout in a mayoral race since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So maybe there is hope that I could be wearing
a red beret for a week. On the program, Curtis
ly was going to join us tomorrow and make the
case for why I'm a moron, and some of you
have us already signed on to that. We'll play some
fun feedback on that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Speaker 3 (15:00):
We have some things to update you on one Clay,
just this is a pickup from yesterday. Remember how I
played Governor Hokeel, the governor of New York, Kathy Hope,
the accidental governor, in fact only the governor because Cuomo
was grabbing ladies by the wayte and kissing them close
(15:20):
to the mouth, but not on the mouth, but an
Italian fashion. Hokeel was claiming that she doesn't even know
what the crowd was changed they were. They were chanting
at the left wing loon rally, tax the rich, tax
the rich. We played that yesterday and I said this,
they're moving from race communism to more old school class communism. Right.
(15:43):
The original communism is just a religion of state envy,
or rather of state and forest envy. That always turns
into palitarianism. That's what real communism is. It's not about
the workers and the revolutionary proletariat, and that's all just
that's all the make believe stuff. Once you get into
like the final boss level of communism, it's just totalitarianism
(16:05):
that roots itself deep into the public psyche via, envy
and hatred of all that is good. That's what actual
communism is. You know, a envy is at the core
of it all. Here is Kathy Hokel. Though Clay, we're
about I'm gonna play mom Donnie's dad in a second,
but I just wanted to update this. Kathy Hokle realizes that,
you know, she's the government New York maybe going all
(16:26):
in on tax the rich as a slogan that a
rally is not so great. So now she's like, I
don't even know what they were saying and play nine.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
I thought they were saying, let's go bills. I wasn't
I wasn't sure. When you're up there, I heard some noise,
I heard a lot of tears. But later on it
became clear to me that there is a I know,
this passion for that, and I went in there as
the leader of the Democratic Party whose job it is
to unify and unifying behind the Democratic nominee. I love
(16:54):
the energy out there. I told him that. And I
want to do is bottle all that up. You use
it in two days, but take that too long.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Island in the Hudson Valley Clay Kathy hochele, let's play
a game, moron or liar liar here sometimes often a moron.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
But she did not think they were saying let's go bills.
I mean the rich was pretty clear. I mean you
and I could hear it. We were not at the rally,
and if you were at the rally, you would have
seen some people's faces and been able to lip read
them as well as they were chanting tax the rich again.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think there is a quiet panic setting in.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Among Democrats that know what it takes to win elections
that if AOC and Mom Donnie are the face of
the Democrat Party, they're in trouble. And really liberal became
such a negative word for the Democrats that they really
ran away from it. They talk about being progressives now.
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I think New York City liberal and California liberal is
going to be a huge part of the twenty twenty
six campaign. Because I think if you look in New
York City, you're gonna have Mom Donni, You're gonna have AOC,
You're gonna have Schumer, and you're gonna have a gem Jefferies.
That's for New York City guys and gals. And you're
(18:21):
just gonna say those are New York City Liberals. And
then as Cuomo gear sorry, as Newsome gears up to
run for the presidency, I think California liberal will also
be an insult. And I think increasingly the decisions being
made by places like New York and LA are at
extreme odds with the rest of the country in a
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way that the Democrat Party recognizes as toxic to their
brand in what they would call flyover country, and they
have to win some of those races in order to
have power to enact the agendas of New York and La.
Heck Buck, even San Francisco. I think you got to
give some credit to their new mayor, Daniel Lurie.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He seems sane right on a level that Mom Donnie
is not saying, on a level that Brandon Johnson in
Chicago is not saying, on a level that Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, is not right. Those are
people who are clear failed left wing politicians. I think
some cities, Muriel Bowser seems somewhat reasonable, right, the mayor
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of Washington, D C. The mayor, And I'm saying that
from a Democrat context perspective, not that I agree with
everything they do, but just hey, Trump trying to drive
down violent crime in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Hey, I'm kind of in favor of that. That's Muriel Bowser.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Daniel Lourie, the mayor of San Francisco, actually negotiating with
Trump to try to say, hey, we're trying to implement
a lot of the policies you want to put in place,
but if I do it, maybe we can get it
through without the chaos that might come from people who
just hate you in San Francisco reject the choices you're making,
even when they're rational. My biggest concern Buck is they
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make all these choices that are awful, and then they
still are gonna just say, well, the reason why you
know this didn't work because we didn't tax rich people enough,
because we didn't go far left wing enough. That's the
reason why the policies that we're trying to put in
place fail. That's my concern about Mandani if he wins
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that they will refuse to accept responsibility if he tries
to put these policies in place.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I'm sorry, Claire, are you trying to suggest that if
he's as much of a disaster as you and I
and every sane person with us right now thinks he
will be, the voters of Mandani will claim that real
Mamdanism has never been tried. It's very sad.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
It's very sad.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
It's very true, very very certain. All right, speaking of
Mandani Mamdani, I will say, also, everyone butchers this guy's
name all the time. You know, it's amazing, It's it
shouldn't be that hard to say. But for some reason,
going from the M to the end, I.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Think am I mispronouncing this? Or is this one of
the few? Is Zoran Mamdani right like I Kimmandanni? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, a lot of people say Mandanni, you know Mamdania.
You know, they get all kinds of things going on here.
All right, let's get into his dad. Let's talk about
his dad for a second.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Here.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Zora Mamdani's father, who's a Columbia University professor. Of course, uh,
Mahmoud Mamdanni here he this is well, this is not
long ago. Here is Zoran's dad on this country. That remember,
Zoran is here as a refugee. Zoran is here because
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the place that he came from was not a place
he could stay, right, I mean that's my I think
his dad came here from Uganda, and whether he's not
technical a refugee, he's certainly an immigrant because Uganda it's
got problems, got a little bit of not.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
A place that a lot of people choose to go
from a western, civil wise country, right, there's just not
that many people are like, hey, were you headed next?
I was thinking about America, I was thinking about England,
maybe maybe Germany, and then I chose Uganda instead. I
don't think a lot of people make that choice. It
was Italy or it was Uganda. Yeah, most people, including
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Mamdannie's own family, have made the choice to come back.
I do love Buck that while he doesn't trust the
NYPD when he goes to Uganda, they have a full
security force protecting the family. Yes, but of course, but
of course here is his dad back In twenty twenty two,
Columbia University Professor Professor Mamdani play at six.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism,
and the American model was exported all around the world.
Abraham Lincoln generalized the solution of reservations. They herded American
Indians into separate territories for the Nazis. For the Nazis,
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this was the inspiration. Hitler realized two things. One, the
genocide was doable. It is possible to do genocide. That's
what Hitler realized. Second thing Hitler realized is that you
don't have to have a common citizenship. You can differentiate
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between people. The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway,
the US put Indians in reservations. The US invented the model.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
This is not true. Mean, first of when we talk
about settler colonialism, I think he's trying to speak specifically
in the context of Israel as an apartheid state here,
because obviously America was a colony, was a colony of settlers,
and then we fought a revolution to become free. I
don't know if he just skiped that part of American history,
but it turned it was actually the Spanish, the French,
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the Dutch, the British, they were the ones who cated
this model. This is actually this argument that he makes, Buck,
This is why I was so annoyed and have not
given them. What annoys Clay the most is not the
hatred of America. It's the wrong history gets wrong. The
You can hate America, you have the right to hate America,
(24:27):
but at least rooted in historical accuracy.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
This is like the the and don't placate.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Those who hate America and are rooted in historical stupidity.
This is like what happened at my university, George Washington
University GW is now the revolutionaries. They were the colonials,
but they decided that the colonials had too much of
a context of connection to colonialism, so they changed the
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name of the mascot.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We weren't the colonial army. We were the allenized who
threw off the oppressive colonialism that we were founded upon.
Right So, if anything, in the history, were the heroes
of the colonial worldview, because we took independence from the
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places that had colonized us. In fact, there countries were
very explicitly the removal of the colonial overlord was premised
upon the American success in this right. One example would
be Haiti Haiti.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
But success of the revolution in the western hemisphere probably,
But yes, buck to your point, when in New York
City where you grew up, one of the first things
they did was tear down the statue of the King
and turn it into lead bullets. I mean that is
pretty explicitly anti anti the colonial power that puts you
(25:58):
in place. So yes, his his argument is bastardized. And
what is really designed to do, and this is where
the identity politics worldview comes in is white men are evil.
If you look at what the motivation is by and
large of the modern day Democrat Party at its essence,
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at its base, it is white men are evil. That's
what they all believe. Now, some of those white men
you know who take their wives names are voting also
to say white men are evil. There's a not in
substantial cadre of white people that they are collaborator or evil.
They are collaborators, and some would argue white women are
actually the founders and primary principal drivers of the woke
(26:43):
virus in general. In fact, I think that's likely true,
but it relies on the villainy of white men that
is the foundation of the Democrat Party. And so when
Momdanni's dad is making the argument that all that is
evil is rooted in the Unit States, it's an intentional
argument because what it leads to is a delegitimization of
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the country and its founding and the declaration of independence
and the Constitution, and you can tear it all down,
as we saw physically happen in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
There's also an argument that I've thought of maybe clay
for a future book, but it would be very detailed
in history and have to get deep into the history.
But one of the one of the challenges that the
Western world has when it comes to all of this
wokeness and historical oppression stuff, is that we actually have
histories written histories that go back quite a ways. A
(27:34):
lot of other parts of the world don't, yeah, and
so it's harder for people to know. For example, like
you you all know that the Portuguese and the Spanish
and the French and the British, et cetera. Western European
countries and the age of exploration starting right around the
early fifteen hundreds, after figured the most Lands in fourteen
ninety two, they start going all over the world. They
start exploring and yes, they fight and they take over
(27:55):
pieces of land, sometimes more peacefully than others, but a
lot of the time with violence, and a lot of
the time they spread these But do people know about
all of the tribes that were exterminating each other beforehand?
Do people know that the great victory of the Inca people,
for example, was the consolidation of their empire just a
generation before the arrival of the Spaniards, the consolidation of
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an empire that enslaved and murdered countless other tribes. They
don't even talk about this. You talk about the native
South Africans. And this came up recently when Trump was
talking about South African refugees. How many of the people
that teach about colonial settler colonialism, for example, at Columbia University,
even though that the Zulus were colonists. The Zulu tribe
(28:38):
arrived and through warfare and conquest an enslavement of those
who were there in advance of the Zulus became the
primary tribe in that region, and the areas that originally
the South African Dutch colonists colonized were uninhabited. Well, I mean,
this is just not taught. No one knows these things
this is all true. This is also the story of
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human civilization is human populations moved to areas where there
was no people, right, Like, so, at what point does land?
It's really kind of amazing, right, The whole argument is
premised on to your point, a fact that the historical
record is very limited. But land is like, at what
(29:22):
point do you say, oh, this land is owned by someone,
when do they become the owners? And the whole premise
is just absolutely ridiculous. Also, these land acknowledgments which are
now the basis of almost every major Democrat event. You know,
they start off by apologizing to the initial owners of
the of the land or dwellers of the land. The
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great exterminators, if you're going to look for them, of
other human beings, would certainly be the Mongols. Actually in
the thirteenth how many have you sit around thinking a
lot about the Korrasmi and Empire. You might not have
even heard of the core. It was actually huge, it
was gone. They killed basically all of them, the Mongols.
They showed up. They didn't like them. They killed all
of them, every man, woman and child, because that's how
they used to do things. The notion clay that America
(30:06):
came up with the idea of genocide in all of
human history. Is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Only a truly historically ignorant person who hates white men
would say such a thing. And that is where Mundani's
dad comes down on this. We're bringing it full circle.
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Welcome back in our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton
show a lot of positive things. I always try to
make sure that I talk about the positivity as much
as I possibly can. We are continuing to set new
all time records. In fact, the S and P five
hundred new all time record as I am speaking to you,
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the dal Jones Industrial average new all time record as
I am speaking to you, and the NASDAK new all
time record as I am speaking with you, all time records.
For those of you out there that own stock in
any way pensions four oh one k's individual stocks, chances
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are if you happen to go gander at your stock values,
they have never been higher in your life. And I
do just want to continue to point it out that
in April you were told, oh my goodness, the stock
market is collapsing. Donald Trump has no idea what he's
doing with the economy, and the S and P five
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hundred is up two thousand points since then. If you
had bought stock back in April, you're up around forty
percent now, on those stock purchases.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
If if you merely just held.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
On to your existing stocks and just didn't even pay
attention to any of it. This year, the S and
P five hundred is up right at eighteen percent so far.
You might say, okay, well, Clay, how does that contextualize?
On average? On average, the S and P five hundred
is going to be up around nine percent on average.
Some years you might lose twenty, some years you may
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make twenty. But this year is a very good year
so far for stocks, and we are at record highs.
So I understand also those of you out there say,
Clay Man, you don't know what you're talking about. The
economy is not as good on the ground as you're saying.
I get it, and I think a lot of that
is still working through the disaster that was the Biden economy.
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In general, the stock market runs six or twelve months
in advance of the economic conditions you see on the ground,
and so all of this is very positive. Trump is
trying to make the economic conditions better for all of
us on the ground, and right now he's in Asia,
he is meeting with Japan. I saw this morning that
(34:36):
he had a great reception in Japan. He is scheduled
to be in South Korea. Buck, I don't know if
you saw this, some whispers that he might meet Kim
Jong un again.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Remember how quickly the meeting with North Korea's reclusive dictator
happened in the past. He's going to be in South Korea,
Trump is He's going to be meeting with Chinese Premier
g So there is some pot usibility. Maybe there'll be
additional aspects of that. As part of his travel. On
Air Force One, Trump has been asked answering questions quite
(35:09):
a lot. And among those questions, let's play a couple
of these cuts, because I thought they were entertaining, and
I want to make sure that we keep you updated
with what the President is saying. Even as we are
following the New York City's mayor race tomorrow we will
have Curtis Sliwa on the program, and even as we
are following what's going on in New Jersey and Virginia.
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One week from today is the twenty twenty five elections.
Also coming up on the one year anniversary of Trump's
record win in twenty twenty four, but Trump yesterday on
Air Force One was asked about would he be running
in twenty twenty eight. This obsession here is cut twenty one.
Speaker 11 (35:48):
We have great people. I don't have to get into them,
but we have one of them standing right here. We
have JD. Obviously, the vice president is great. I think
Mark is great. I think, how do you if anybody
would run against us? I think if there before the
group would be let's stop.
Speaker 12 (36:06):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I believe that I would.
Speaker 11 (36:08):
I would, I would love to do it. I have
my best numbers. Ever, it's very terrible. I have my
best numbers.
Speaker 10 (36:14):
You read it.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Am I not.
Speaker 11 (36:18):
Ruling it out.
Speaker 10 (36:19):
You'll have to tell me.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Okay, so Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I do think the idea of a JD.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Marco ticket unity from the start is starting to get
some momentum.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Do you buy the idea that that duo. Marco Rubio
obviously has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside
of the Trump administration right now, primarily Secretary of State.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
JD. Van's VP do.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
You buy the idea that those guys might just say, hey,
let's keep the band together and have a unity ticket
and we might not even see that much drama in
twenty twenty eight, that Trump might just say, hey, these
are my guys.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm not gonna run.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, yeah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You buy this.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I mean, because I'm starting to think it's more and
more of a possibility that they just say, hey, we're
a unity ticket, We're Trump three two point oh, three
point oh. However you want to say it, and let's
not have all the drama of this huge fight. Let's
just keep things rolling. What do you think is it
too clean? It all sounds great and it would be
phenomenal in so many ways. A lot could happen in
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two and a half years, my friends, So you know,
this is this is the thing. This is the way
we think the story should go, And that to me
means it's unlikely that that is the way the story
will play out. That's how I view this.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, it should go.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
There is a pathway. But remember I was I was
doing shows Clay in twenty nineteen. You know, I was
doing the solo Buck shows in twenty nineteen, where I
was saying, guys, the country, things are great, enjoy it.
Trump's kicking ass, Economy's phenomenal. We're at peace. You know,
things are great. And then boom, a few.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in your
apartment in New York City.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
We don't have we don't have to go back to
that trauma every time. You know, it was very difficult.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I still want to see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
I would I mean this, I walked into your apartment.
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, just basically like March
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and April and maybe a little bit of May. People
were like, eh, you know a little bit, and.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Then it was kind of over.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And then every time I see people, you some of
you guys still have a lot of post traumatic stress.
You la your New York Chicago residents who really had
to go through the chaos and the insanity.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
LA people most a lot of them had yards more so, whether.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
More so, but I mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle borders.
I mean, I mean this was it wouldn't even let
him walk on.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
The I'm just saying New York turned into a turn
to a prison camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to experience the city. Anybody who has
ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments that
I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
I would have lost my mind. I certainly wouldn't have
been able to stay.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Trump being Trump, by the way, in addition to saying hey,
JD and Marco could be an incredible team, he also
decided to tee off on Jasmine Crockett and he challenged
them to a cognitive test AOC. We're going to talk
about AOC coming out to our friend Riley Gaines here
in a moment. But Trump also challenged AOC and Jasmine
Crockett to a cognitive test, and you'll want to hear
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this cut twenty two.
Speaker 11 (40:08):
So I can tell you is that we have a
great group of people, which they don't. They have Jazzmin Crockett,
a low IQ person.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
They have.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ test, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Read I took that's a
very hard they're really after two tests. I guess at
a certain point when they're cognitive tests. Let AOC go
against Trump, Let Jasmine go against some I don't think
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Jasmine the first couple of questions there is the a
tiger and elephant that you have, you know when you
get up to about five or six, and then when
you get up to ten at twenty and twenty five,
they couldn't come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I mean, he is just you know what's on.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
You know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again,
and I think that he does. Just like to say
that he's gonna run again, because it up sets the
libs so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay,
our jobs will never be as entertaining as they have
been in the Trump era because he makes you, guys,
even remember what it was like back in the days
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when oh, everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It
was boring and generally useless and often lies and wrong.
In the Bush era, whatever, you know, people just said stuff.
You know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little
spicy toward the end, as we know, but in general,
we did not have a president who just says hilarious
things all the time.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they are showing
you pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test,
but just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again, because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
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I I really, I feel like so many people who.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Have Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an
inability to process tone and context, because I mean, how
could you not laugh at this at the end of
this answer. Maybe we don't have the ability to point
out abody.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
Yeah, they really apt to tests, I guess at a
second point, but nick cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump,
Let Jasmine go against some I know they get a
Jasmine the first.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Couple of questions.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
There is a tiger and elephant that you have, you know,
when you get up to about five or six, and
then when you get up to ten and twenty and
twenty five, they couldn't come close to answering any of
those questions.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has fireback buck. Jasmine Crockett says,
I got into college on my own. Trump didn't. This
is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has a
low IQ, got twenty three.
Speaker 12 (43:00):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you
Kln that finally ask him what is his IQ, because
he is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what
a low IQ is. He don't even know which scores
are low. And I can guarantee you that whatever score,
if he's taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his
qualifies as low. Listen, he's never been known to be
an Einstein. This is not a guy who got in
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on marriage when it came to going to college. This
is someone who, but for him being born with a
silver spoon, probably wouldn't have got into anybody's.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Institution, unlike me.
Speaker 12 (43:31):
So, you know, I am not worried about that, and
I wish people would look at the fact that you
have a president of the United States who consistently is
obsessing over two women of color that are members of
the House.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
And it's not just Jasmin Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. You know who's really
just appointed by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There
are a lot of people who represent us in Congress
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and in the Senate that are not high intellect.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
That's not ideal. They're also not great communicators that is
really not ideal. Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats,
Independence by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great
communicators out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed
in politics was that he could have the success he
(44:32):
had with no background in politics, because there are a
lot of lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing
around candidly when it comes to arguments and it comes
to the political direction of the country. All true, and
this is why we continue to hope for reform of
our government system. Yet we have people who are so
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often buffoons representing us our government system. So there's a
problem there. It's a bit like how we all want
to tackle the debt, but we don't want any of
the good spending to stop. Talk more about this. The
look AI is being used in our everyday lives more
and more, and it's only going to get bigger. I've
read and reread the White House's plans for artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 1 (46:19):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
excited to be joined by our friend Riley Gaines. I
don't think you've been on since you officially became a mom,
so let's start there before we get into you versus AOC.
What has We have a lot of moms out there
and dads. Buck is a recent new dad. As you know,
(46:41):
what has most surprised you about being a mom that
maybe you didn't anticipate?
Speaker 2 (46:46):
How has it gone so far?
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Do you have any advice for maybe expectant moms that
might be out there listening that have not had baby
one yet based on your experience and congratulations, well.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
Thank you, and congratulations to Buck two. Look, I will
say the thing that has surprised me most is, honestly,
and look, I know my experience is you know one thing,
and it is very different than other women. But honestly,
how easy it is. I think, especially as women, especially
as younger women, you get wrapped up in all the
horror stories. I heard them all during pregnancy. Everyone told me,
(47:23):
you know, well, you just wait, and I kept waiting
and waiting, and none of the bad things that all
of the women said were going to happen happened to me.
I had a fantastic pregnancy. And then it was okay,
well you just wait until delivery, and delivery came, she
was born and the process was a breeze, and then
it was okay, well you just ban up on your
sleep now because you're not going to get any sleep
when she's here. And let me tell you, I've slept
(47:44):
like a dream. She's been just the best baby. And
so I think the message that I want to send
is that there are good stories out there too. It
has been just the most magical past four weeks. She
will be a month tomorrow, which is insane.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's gone so quick, isn't the best? Riley the first one,
it's my first one too, It's been so much fun.
And honestly, I share a lot of your sentiment because people,
and I know a lot of it was well intentioned,
but there's this, you know, oh, congratulation to the baby,
You're never going to sleep again and your life is
going to be so hard. That wasn't even true for us.
The baby was about was hit the five months sleep progression,
(48:21):
and we've actually since worked with the baby and now
sleeping great again. But our baby slept like a baby.
It was fine, and it's been amazing, and I just
want more of them. I don't know. I just feel
like there's a little bit of a strange even on
the right, a strange cultural like batten down the hatches
thing where everything I mean, you were you were a
super high level swimmer. I'm sure you had to get
(48:42):
up at five o'clock in the morning a lot and
spend a lot of time in the pool, and that's
not always fun or what you want to do. But
it's really worthwhile.
Speaker 9 (48:51):
That's it, And that's the exact same with motherhood. I
think there's an attempt to san especially when we're talking
about younger women too, to scare them out of it, honestly,
and I think you guys both know we live in
this what aboutism culture where you share these stories and
you almost feel shameful for doing it because you'll have
(49:11):
someone else who will say, well, what about my experience
or what about this? And you know they want us
to feel shameful for having these great experiences. But I'm
just here to say, hasn't been that way with us.
We've had a fantastic experience.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
I just want to say, Riley, I've had people yell
at me before because I just shared the positive experience
that I've had of making walking a part of my
daily routine. People get mad at me, like, of course
you think walking is you know, mister, like radio, I
thought walking, I mean, unless you have some real problem,
like that's something we could all enjoy and share in.
But I just want to tell you, even when you
(49:45):
give people the most solid and positive and kind hearted advice,
there will be people who are angry at you.
Speaker 9 (49:52):
A hundred percent. Yeah, walking probably also makes you a
racist too, So it.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Is funny that you would say, yeah, you got to
give reparate, that you would say that anybody would say, hey,
maybe you should just walk a little bit more, and
the response is, well, you're elitist, like I think walking
something that most of us share. All Right, So you
texted me yesterday and it reminded me of you texting
me when Simone Biles came after you. So, for those
(50:20):
who do not know, AOC decided kind of out of nowhere.
I mean, you tell us the story Riley to just
attack you, And I think my immediate response was this
is so great for you, which was the same thing
when Simone Biles did it. And I'm sure you had
the same reaction because there's so many fake accounts out there.
Like my initial reaction is, Okay, let's make sure it's
(50:43):
actually Simone Biles. Let's make sure it's actually AOC, because
this is such a ridiculous bad angle to be attacking
someone on that I can't.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Believe it's real.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
So tell people who don't know, you're sitting around yesterday
afternoon and AOC decides about of the blue to come
after you, what happened?
Speaker 9 (51:03):
It's so funny you mentioned that about SMO and Biles,
because honestly, it's virtually like the exact same realization and
actions that I went through when this happened. Because I'm
sitting there now, especially being a new mom, I'm not
on my phone all the time, but I see this
notification pop up and it says, you know, AOC mentioned
you in a comment. I click on it and I
(51:24):
read it, and it says something to the effect of,
if you channeled all of your anger towards swimming, maybe
you would have been faster or something to the effect.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
Better than the fifth, better than fifth in all of
American NCAA swimmers. This is the line of attacks she
decided to hit you with. You're only the fifth best
at something in the entire United States. That doesn't I'd
love to be the fifth best at anything, by the way,
but yes, that's what she decided to attack you with.
Speaker 9 (51:54):
It is so true, like it proves this line of
defense or these arguments that they're using. It proves that
they know nothing about sports. And honestly, it's pretty utterly
misogynistic because I mean, you think about a Clay would
she call the fifth best college football player in the nation,
mediocre or sport, bad at his sport or whatever, or
(52:15):
the fifth best college basketball player. No way, she wouldn't
say that, but because it's number one. I think women's sports,
which is hilarious because they claim to care about and
watch women's sports, and too, I think a less mainstream
sport like swimming. Of course, this is more of a
niche sport. It's if you're not the best, if you're
not on the Olympic team, if you're not getting gold
(52:35):
medals at the Olympics, then you're actually just not good
at your sport. And that was AOC's line of defense,
so or her her argument that she went with there.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
And so.
Speaker 9 (52:47):
I just think you can have this six foot go ahead.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
No, no, no, you go ahead. I didn't have it, didn't
want to off. You could probably go ahead.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
No.
Speaker 9 (52:55):
I think the point is you have two sides of
this argument. One side is to be with and standing
for women who merely want fair competition, safety in their sports,
and privacy and areas of undressing. And the other side
is the side of the six foot four man who
was four hundred and sixty second the year prior when
competing against the men, and who flashes women in the
(53:16):
locker room, and AOC made the side that she chose
very clear.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Now I have to ask you, Riley, because you understand
how competitive sports are, and you're somebody who knows the
work that has to go into it and just the
the realities of the sports world. We haven't really gotten
to know each other that well, but there's a controversy
out there about whether or not as a recreational middle
(53:44):
aged tennis player, I will be able to get one
hundred mile an hour serve on camera as evidence by
a speed gun.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
Now, I gotta be let me interrupt him here. This
has been several months where he hasn't in good weather.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I'm just going to point out where they're hasn't been
a test going on, Riley, just for your ability and erriga. Riley,
just you understand we already have a ninety seven on
the record, Okay, ninety seven miles an hour, But Clay
and some of the doubters in this audience think that
I will not be able to with a little more
limber shoulder and a little little more you know of
(54:20):
the old Riley.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
During the show commercial break, he has a rubber band
that he is stretching out his shoulder with.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
Play that the trust tree. That's not for airing on
the radio anyway. I mean, there's got to be a
clip of this.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Do you think? Do you think what side of this
bet I have till the end of the year. I'll
decide that much I have till the end of the year,
which now takes me through. I got about, you know,
eight weeks to get this done. Can it be done
by yours truly? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 9 (54:50):
Honestly, Buck, I think there is a more plausible chance
of you serving a one hundred miles per hour serve
than there is Clay Travis is actually swimming Alcatraz.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
I look, I'm just sitting here, innocent and much like
much like Riley when AOC came after. I'm just a nice, kind,
considerate person here and I just got two by four
hacksaw Jim Duggan style by Riley here, which I.
Speaker 9 (55:17):
Invited Clay in July. You're both invited next toly to
do this. I think we could we could make something
out of it.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Can I doggy paddle the Alcatraz swim? Or is that just?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Is that too?
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Ghost?
Speaker 9 (55:31):
Honestly, the worst part is how cold it is. Oh,
it's the worst part of all of it.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
I am both less brilliant and less insulated than I
used to be clay, so that may that's that's one
of the few times this was not to my advantage.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, I saw your husband Louis, and he was saying
that there are moments where you think about sharks. Did
you think this is the part that I'm actually now
is in my head. I'm not gonna lie the idea
of getting attacked by a shark while trying to do this.
You did this pregnant. Did you truly have no fear
of sharks at all?
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Riley?
Speaker 1 (56:04):
When you got in the water, like didn't even cross
your mind. Or at some point when you're in the
depth of the swim there, did you think, hey, this
is a little bit scary.
Speaker 9 (56:16):
It's so funny looking back, because you're right, I did
this at gosh, seven months pregnant, and you're you're kind
of in the middle of the ocean and you reach
a point where it gets really cold, and I think
that indicates, of course that you know, the water gets deeper,
and in those moments it's a been unsettling, like, oh gosh,
what is swimming underneath me. But sharks, I'm I don't
think I'm really scared of sharks. I watched soul surfer
(56:39):
growing up as Aty Hamilton. Actually it's just I mean,
she's a dear friend of mine, but sharks are never
something that that really scared me.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
Leui.
Speaker 9 (56:47):
He's actually sat right next to me. We're in the
car together. Now, he's just as sissy as what it is.
Speaker 1 (56:55):
I'm a sissy with Louis. Then let me ask you
this though. Back on the aoc h Riley and tell
Louis we said hi too. Why do you think she
decided to attack you kind of out of nowhere? It's
the same question that I had when I saw Simone
Biles come after you. It's not an attack that makes
her look better to your point, being attacking someone for
(57:19):
only being the fifth best at something. Again, I would
love to be the fifth best at anything. So with
everybody out there listening, it's not a good line of attack.
Where is this coming from? Is it organized? Do you
think somebody is asking her to do it? Was she
looking for this opportunity and then you've offered a debater
and she followed up again? I think you were on
(57:39):
with Laura Ingram last night. Where is all of this
coming from in your mind?
Speaker 9 (57:45):
Well, it is interesting because when you compare this to Simone,
because Simone and her argument, I mean, you would imagine
that an olympian, the best of the best, she's like
in a total league of her own. There's no one
even close to her. You would imagine she would understand
and approach just from an athlete, which of course she didn't,
but she didn't necessarily have to be politically competent in
(58:05):
AOC her position, of course is Marley bankrupt, But it's
just totally politically ignorant. Not only is this something that
I mean ninety nine one hundred percent of the Republican
Party and those who voted for Donald Trump, the seventy
seven million people who voted for Donald Trump agree with
that men shouldn't be in women's sports. But it's what,
like I would say, eighty percent of the Democratic Party.
(58:27):
I think the number in the Gallup polls has been
somewhere between sixty seventy. I think it's more than that
of their own party that don't agree with them. And
so why is she doing this? I think it's something
that's successful on social media platforms where you can kind
of acquire that cesspool of radical, insane lunatics, which those
exist on X. I mean, I think her initial post
(58:49):
got what like forty five million views, So you can
imagine the past twenty four hours what my message is
on all platforms, like when you're having to feel yield
forty five million AOC cronies who just follow her page
and listen to what she says. But I don't know,
it's not politically expedient at all. And I think that
(59:12):
the terrifying point here is that this is the leader
of their party. People like Crockett and AOC and Mom Donnie.
That that's who all other Democrats at all levels. By
the way, that's who they look to try to find
me a moderate Democrat. Clay, I think you tweeted it
a few weeks ago talking about how Fetterman was the
most sane Democrat and it's there's not even a close second.
(59:36):
Like try and try and think of a modern democrat
at any level. I mean, there just isn't one. So
this is the this is their party's leader. This is
what I guess they believe will work, but we will
continue to see them lose in twenty twenty six and
twenty twenty eight, and further on if they continue with
(59:56):
I mean supporting the policies, the harmful policy is that
they support.
Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Thank you so much, Riley for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You congrats to you and Louie.
Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
Yep, well, thank you guys. I want to see a
video of bucking this commercial break.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Oh, this serve, this server is gonna happen, everybody, It's
gonna happen. I wish you could see him with the
rubber band trying to loosen up the right shoulder in
the commercial breaks.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
I mean, that was the trust that was in the.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Trust tree, that was in the trust tree in Clay's
now violating trust tree. Okay, that's enough of that. But yes, Riley,
I am trying to limber up this old man's shoulder
just a little bit like the backstroke, only for the
tennis court. Thank you for being here, Riley.
Speaker 9 (01:00:37):
Thank you guys.
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