October 29, 2025 • 59 mins
Buck's Beloved NYC
Clay and Buck scrutinize Mamdani’s past remarks on policing, prisons, and his alignment with anti-Israel rhetoric, drawing connections to broader progressive movements like Occupy Wall Street and BLM. They argue that Mamdani’s narrative is rooted in victimhood politics and toxic identity-based grievance culture, which they believe is emblematic of the far-left wing of the Democratic Party.
Andrew Cuomo’s recent media appearance is dissected, where he warns that the radical left could destroy the Democratic Party. Despite Cuomo’s criticisms, the hosts express skepticism about his political competence and campaign strategy, noting his reliance on legacy media while Mamdani leverages modern platforms like TikTok to reach younger voters.
Curtis Sliwa's Message
Ahigh-energy, politically charged interview with Republican NYC mayoral candidate Curtis Sliwa, just six days ahead of the pivotal New York City election. This segment centers on Sliwa’s refusal to drop out of the race despite concerns that vote-splitting between him and Andrew Cuomo could hand victory to Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani. Sliwa passionately defends his candidacy, invoking populist themes, his Guardian Angels legacy, and a commitment to fighting crime and corruption in NYC.
The hour features Sliwa’s fiery rhetoric against both Cuomo and Mamdani, whom he labels as equally destructive to New York. He blames Cuomo for enabling Mamdani’s rise and criticizes Cuomo’s past policies, including no-cash bail, prison closures, and mismanagement of juvenile crime. Sliwa also reveals he was offered $10 million to drop out of the race—an allegation he calls unethical and potentially criminal. He emphasizes his grassroots campaign, his new “Protect Animals” ballot line, and his belief in democratic choice over billionaire influence.
FL Rep. Byron Donalds
Ahigh-profile interview with Florida Congressman Byron Donalds, who is actively campaigning to become Florida’s next governor. Donalds discusses his platform, including support for eliminating property taxes on homesteaded properties, maintaining funding for essential services, and continuing the legacy of Governor Ron DeSantis. He emphasizes Florida’s low-tax, law-and-order appeal and warns New Yorkers considering relocation to Florida to respect the values that make the Sunshine State successful.
Donalds also weighs in on the national implications of Zohran Mamdani potentially becoming New York City’s mayor, calling him a dangerous Marxist whose policies would be disastrous for NYC and the Democratic Party. He predicts Mamdani would become a national face of the progressive left, alongside figures like AOC and Bernie Sanders, and urges other states to follow Florida’s lead in sound governance. The conversation shifts to college football, with playful banter about Florida State’s recent struggles and speculation on coaching changes at the University of Florida. Donalds diplomatically avoids trash talk, showing his political polish, while Clay and Buck dive into sports picks and betting insights.
Climate Change Flip
Katie Miller’s viral CNN moment where she criticized DEI hiring practices and Karine Jean-Pierre’s book tour. They argue that identity politics have overtaken meritocracy in the Democratic Party, comparing modern progressive rhetoric to medieval royalty declarations. Clay and Buck dissect the evolution of the Democratic Party platform from 2012 to 2024, noting a dramatic shift away from traditional values like fatherhood and responsibility toward an overwhelming focus on LGBTQ+ rights and land acknowledgments.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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big race in NYC. You're going to give you our
thoughts on this. And remember Curtis Sliwah, the Republican candidate
in this You have a Democrat comi Is Mamdani, and
then you got Cuomo as the independent really third party
candidate here, and then you have Curtis Sliwah running as
(00:56):
the Republican in this race. Curtis is going to make
his case. Many of you in the New York area
have been saying, hey, guys, you gotta have Curtis on.
Of course we're gonna have Curtison, and we have tried
to have Cuomo on. He is dodging and weaving and
stalling kind of like his campaign. Yeah, not really taking
(01:18):
anything all that seriously, Cuomo. Uh turns out not very
good at politics. That's that's a thing that can happen
when you've only gotten where you are because people know
your last name because Dandy was the governor for a
long time. So this is what we have seen with him.
But let's dive in, mister Clay to more of this uh,
(01:38):
more of this mam donni stuff out there. I don't
know which is the worst one of these two. So
let me start with this. These are flashbacks. Now, this
is twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I would argue the
campaign is saying that mam donni campaign is saying, oh,
he's evolved. No, Actually, what you saw with people in
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twenty twenty and twenty two twenty one is what do
they really think? Because when all of a sudden they
felt free to be as radical left and insane as
they want with no not only no consequence, but it
was in their interest to do so. They let it rip.
So they showed you who they really were in twenty
twenty and twenty twenty one, whether it was on COVID
or BLAM or any of these things. Clay, here is
(02:20):
Mom Donnie on police and prisons in August of twenty
twenty is before that election that as well. We'll talk
about that another time. This has cut four play it.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The way that prisons are set up in our society,
I would argue that they do not work. They do
not make us safer. The instinct is to just take
that person, the source of that harm, the source of
that issue, and then just throw them away, put them
in a cage and throw away the That doesn't address
the reason why that arm was created in the first place.
A lot of times people who create trauma for others
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that those with themselves.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Went through trauma earlier in their own lives.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And I bring all of this up to say that,
you know, again, like when we talk about policing, I
don't think the system actually makes us safer.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think what it does is it just removes problems
out of view.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So Clay, when someone has been arrested fifty or one
hundred times, which is not unusual in New York City
for the criminal class. The problem, according to Mamdani, is
us is everybody else is the law abiding people of
New York City. Prisons don't make us safer. This is
why old ladies can't walk down the street in some
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cities in America, including some neighborhoods. New York overall is
pretty safe, but some neighborhoods of New York without getting
some maniac punching them in the face.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
How much of this And we've got other cuts that
I think we need to play too. So prisons don't
make us safer, we also have This is more detailed,
and this sounds like a lot of sort of I
would say colonialism clap trap that is taught is people
like his day. But here he says that he got
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into politics to fight apartheid from the inside. Let's play
this too. This is cut three. This is from June
of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I respect that there are many differences of opinion about
the value of electoralism, the value of engaging with the state,
But I do think that as long as the state
has this monopoly on violence, then we have to contest
the state at every which point and every which place
and there is an opportunity to have our voices heard
within the state, and obviously by becoming a member of
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the state in terms of its political class, you are
compromised because you're legitimizing.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It in many ways. But I think if I didn't
see the ability for us to claim victories from the inside,
then I wouldn't be doing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
This, Okay, I mean he is a committed left wing idiologue.
Let's also play cut two. This is June fifth, twenty
twenty one. This is where he says the ny P
and the IDF.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
If you're wondering, like, how did the world.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Did so many leftists end up in this world where
they're camping on campuses, they're protesting. This is the kind
of talk that propels that this is very common on
college campus.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Is cut to the.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Cruelty of what is happening in Israel. In Palestine. It
is a cruelty that is systematized and does not simply
rise and fall when the IDF decides to kill men, women, children,
and families beyond the binary in Palestine in different moments
of spikes. I think of how the NYPD and the
IDF have had a relationship for many years. A relationship.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
That has meant, you know, tactics of oppression crossing from
one country to the other, and that has meant an
increased you know, surveillance and impression of marginalized people wherever
they may be.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So, I mean, all of this is gobblygook university campus talk.
But what's important here Buck, and we hit on this yesterday,
and I think it's important for all of you is
to understand that when he says he's disavowing this, everyone
who hears this knows that he is lying when he's
saying he disavows this, because this is not some off
the cuff comment that happened to be made, and it's
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not deeply thought. He believes intellectually in the idea that
Israel is in apartheid state, that the NYPD exist as
a colonialist occupier to put their boots on the throats
of minority and that you must overthrow the systems of
government that exist in the United States in order for
the people to truly be free.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's what he believes.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So you can't suddenly say, oh, I misspoke a few
times back in twenty and twenty one, and you're right.
This was the era when leftist felt the most free
to say what they truly believed because their power.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Was in ascendants. And he's mentioning the IDF here, which
you might say, what does that have to do with
the NYPD. So I was in NYPD Intelligence now Bureau,
formerly divisioned And yeah, the NYPD has relationships with law
enforcement in Israel. It also has relationships with law enforcement
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in dozens of countries all over the world, in the UK,
in Australia, in France, you know, in Japan. Find me
a country that America has a close relationship with, and
there's a pretty good chance the NYPD has some kind
of liaison relationship with that country. Why the IDF, like,
or rather why Israel? Right, we know the answer, but
(07:33):
it's just so it's just so telling that he finds this,
this little thing. Oh, because the New York Police Department
has a relationship with law enforcement in Israel, mostly in
Tel Aviv. There's some nefarious thing going on here. And
what was the line he used that when it's the
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boots of the NYPD, the IDF is lacing them up.
I mean, that's really that's like protocols of the Elders
of Zion on kind of anti Semitism and antij and
this guy is going to become the mayor of New
York City, which actually has more I think it has
more Jewish people in New York City than Tel Aviv.
So that's interesting that this guy is somehow going to
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be the mayor of New York.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
But a lot of Upper West Side Jewish Americans are
going to vote for this guy, Klay, That's the part
that's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And also I would say, if Jews were really running
the country, don't you think they could maybe have a
mayor who doesn't hate them in New York City? I
mean for people, because there's people on the right now
who say, oh, you're owned by Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh, Israel's running everything.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, don't you think if Israel was running everything that
they would pick someone as mayor of New York City who,
as Buck just pointed out, has a large Jewish population
that doesn't hate them. And this is honestly where Andrew Cuomo,
who is also an awful candidate. There's all this stuff
out there that Mamdannie has said that should be fertile
(09:01):
for anyone who is good at politics or running campaigns,
which evidently Andrew Cuomo is not. I think partly it's
that he's still relying on legacy media, because that's how
he has fueled his entire political career, and legacy media
every day becomes less powerful and less popular, and Mamdanni
has leaned into stupid TikTok videos and doing ads during
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the Bachelor and all these things that people in their
twenties and thirties look at and are connected to. Let's
listen to this. This is Cuomo a little bit earlier
today on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo saying the left
wing of the Democrat Party will destroy the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
Listen, there's a quiet civil war going on in the
Democratic Party right now. You have an extreme radical left
Bernie Sanders AOC. Mamdani is just the banner carrier for
that movement versus the mainstream moderate Democrats. They now call
me moderate. They used to call me liberal.
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Now I'm a.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Moderate because the whole party shifted. And that's what this
election is about. It is that civil war. I believe
that far left will destroy the Democratic Party. I believe
it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if that far
left becomes dominant.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I think he's one hundred percent right about this book.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The problem is what he is pointing to I think
actually benefits Mamdanni in New York City because I think
a lot of young people are frustrated, and when you
are frustrated, you challenge the consensus, candidates, people in positions
of power, the guys who know how to talk to,
all the CEOs.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You live through this.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Occupy Wall Street is just a form of what Mamdanni
is basically arguing, now distilled in a more articulate, front
facing version.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You may be able to speak to it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I don't remember was there ever a really great spokesperson
for Occui Wall Street.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't remember one who.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Really kind of captivated the nation. Mamdanie is in many
ways a voice for that anger that has been percolating
in New York City for a long time.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, what was fascinating about Occupy Wall Street was it
was done under the Obama administration. Yeah, and so there
was all this the people in charge, I mean not Obama,
but like the other people are like really best. So
if it had been a Republican, it would have had
a lot more oomph behind it. Yeah, right, But people
have said it was more a meme than a movement.
I think that's probably an accurate description of it, but
(11:35):
it did. It did have a lot of the class
warfare stuff going on, and it was a collective so
there was no individual spokesperson for it. But isn't interesting
Occupy Wall Street And the first iteration of BLM happened
on Obama's watch, which was so so it was this
game of like, we're so upset at the people in charge.
(11:55):
They're all bought off by corporate interest, but not Obama.
I mean, he's basically, I mean, he's incredible, He's a deity.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
This also, by the way, with Mam Donnie, I think
this is so important for those of you out there
who say, well, I don't care about what happens in
the Middle East. I don't care about what happens in Israel.
They are exporting the same arguments from Israel in the
Middle East to the United States now. And this is
a story that I wanted to hit buck and I'll
mention it right now. But Mam Donnie's father, we played
the cut yesterday of him saying Abraham Lincoln was Hitler's
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motivation as his guide for the Holocaust. Mam Donnie's dad
wrote a book post nine to eleven, saying the United
States and al Qaeda were moral equivalents because the US
invaded Afghanistan, which he saw as a similar in nature
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act as the attack on the World Trade Centers. And
you say, okay, well that's crazy. This is what they
have argued that Israel's response to October seventh, when twelve
hundred Jews were killed, two hundreds of them were captured
and held hostage for years, that Israel was the moral
equivalent of Hamas in the way that they responded. And
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this argument started with oh yeah, sure, nine to eleven
al Qaeda flew into American skyscrapers and killed thousands of people,
But America's response to al Qaeda was in fact the
same as al Qaida, And in fact the mom Danni's
dads of the world buck as you well know because
you saw it happen at your school, argued that America
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deserved it because we actually started and provoked the nine
to eleven attack, in their mind, based on things that
America had done in the past.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Including of course big friends with Israel. So yeah, that's
always that's always in there, somehow, always a part of it,
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Donnie Cuomo and Sliwa, and the Republican nominee for the
New York City Mayor's office is in with us now.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He is Curtis Sliwa. And Curtis, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Coming on the show, and I know that you are
running around like crazy talking everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So I'm just going to start off. Let's just dive
right into it.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I have pledged if you win, so you know, to
wear a red beret for a week and open up
a bar tab at a sports bar not run by
communists in New York City. So I'm on the record there.
If you win, here's my concern. You can tell me
why I'm a moron if you stay in this race.
I think on Wednesday we are going to wake up
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and we are going to see that Mam Donni did
not get the majority of the vote. But that you
and Andrew Cuomo have split the anti Mam Donnie vote
and as a result, this awful Marxist, left wing lunatic
Mam Donnie is going to be the next mayor of
New York City. If that happens, will you feel responsible?
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How would you respond to someone like me who thinks
that that's the most likely outcome if you stay in
the race.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
Well, let's go back to your initial statement. That's too
easy at a bartab in a jin mil how about
writing the number fourteen the muggers express with me and
your red beret fighting crime. Yeah, yeah, that's a little
more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
But on this all right, I will join you on
whatever public transit you would like me to join you on.
If you are New York City's mayor in a red beret,
I will join you. So I'll step it up a notch.
Speaker 11 (16:56):
But remember, wait a second. The reason there is is
Jorhan Mandami. He said you had a failed mayor, Eric Adams,
the most corrupt in the history of New York City.
And that's saying a lot. Had he been a halfway
decent mayor, it would have been round to twenty twenty five,
as it was in twenty twenty one, Eric Adams and
coming Democrat running against Republican challenger Curtis Sleiewer. So Eric
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Adams failed Democrat, then into a Cuomo like a political zombie.
Came back from the Hamptons where he was hanging out
with his billionaire friends with forty points a head on
March first when he announced he was running in the
Democratic primary to become the next mayor. Three and a
half months later, with zon Mondamie at one percent when
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into announced that forty percent, he got beat by thirteen
percent and admitted he ran a horrible race. He didn't
do retail politics. Well, guess what. Just recently, The New
York Post published a story that said that ENTONM. Como
has been absent from the campaign trail for ten days
since Labor Day. You don't win elections that way. I'm
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in the subways, I'm in the streets, I'm on the buses.
I'm meeting the people, the voters. I am the republican populist,
blue collar, working class Kennedy. That's my pathway to victory.
Andrew Como is responsible for the rise of zoa' mondami
and the Democrats are responsible for the Socialists taking over
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their party. So why would I even drop out? And
by the way, you can't drop out. I'm on the
ballot now, I'm not on the number two line. I'm
the Republican Cannidy. There's no dropping out. I've never intended
to drop out. Billionaires tried to bribe me with ten
million dollars. Now I got to walk around with armed
guards along with my wife Nancy because our lives have
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been threatened. You really think that courteously, with everything I've
been through in my life, is going to drop out?
Think of that last scene in Braveheart where mel Gibson
is on the gurney and the executioner says, I want
you to bow to the King of England or I'm
gonna impail you. I'm saying impale me. I will never
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support Angewel Cuomo the prince of evil. He's cold hearted.
He is the worst of what the Democratic Party represents.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So if I am right though, and Mam Donnie wins
because you and Cuomo split the anti Mam Donni vote,
is it your contention that Mam Donni is not gonna
be worse than Cuomo would be. And by the way,
Bucket not neither Buck nor I have any love loss
for Cuomo at all, and Bucks you've won Buck over
with your brave heart analogy there.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, but I'm gonna say that's that's all I needed
to hear. But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But if if Mam Donni is elected, do you not
think that he will be worse for New York City
than Cuomo? Or do you think they're both so awful?
There's no distinction at all, no matter who would win.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
There.
Speaker 11 (19:50):
Well, the reason that we lock up two faces and
our criminals is the architect of the cash bail Andewel Cuomo,
and then his apprentice is Johamand guys, My oldest son
Anthony was nearly killed in a gang attack juveniles. They
stomped him. He's lucky to have survived because of the
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architect of raised the age, Cuomo and his supporter on
that the apprentice or on Mandami. These five juveniles, who
should have gone to criminal court and been charged with
adult crimes, went to family court and were released on
their own recognizance to their parents. And then lastly Governor
Cuomo when he was in charge ten years ago before
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he fled impeachment to the Hamptons, he was the architect
of closing our prison Rikers Island and his apprentice, Jorhan Mandami,
they both have led to the crime crisis that were
in now. I see no differentiation. They are birds of
a feather, two peas in a pod. They're Democrats. They
have caused the destruction of New York State. They're looking
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to destroy New York City. And again, Andrew Cuomo has
only himself to blame for Jorhan Mandami being the Democratic
nominee because he didn't run a race. So I'm the Republican.
I have Republican values completely different than my adversaries. I
believe this is a strange notion in America, isn't it.
Democracy should prevail. The billionaires aren't going to choose the mayor,
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or the influences or the inside is the people, one person,
one vote. Let the people choose the next mayor. Cuomo
has already signaled that if he loses his on on Mondami,
he's fleeing to Florida. I stay, I fight for what
I know is right, improved.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Don't move.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
If I happen to lose his on, I will become
his worst night mare. Twenty four to seven, three six
five I fight, fight, fight, fight. Cuomo runs, runs, runs, runs.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
All right, So now the other New Yorker here, Curtis,
wants to jump in. I wanted Clay to be able
to get out there because he's been he's been worried
about the ticket splitting issue. I just want to throw
out there that I think blue face paint a La
Braveheart along with your red beret would be a good
look in these final days, because that is a fantastic movie.
And now to his point, you have won me over
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with your fight to the very end. But tell me this,
how is it that you could win? Is it that
all the polls, If you win based on what the
so called intelligentsia and the political political class, pundits, et cetera,
based on what they've been saying, it would be the
biggest upset. I don't know. I mean, certainly along the
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lines of Trump twenty sixteen, bigger than that based on
the numbers. What do you say to those people who
are telling you you're a long shot, you're a no shot,
and you're just helping the other side, right, how do
you win? What's your pathway look like?
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Last time I ran against Serry Adams and Remember I
did want everybody he would be corrupt and they would
be chaos. I was right about that. I got twenty
eight percent of the vote. So I build on the
twenty eight percent. I not only have conservative Republican votes,
there are two and a half times the number of independents,
and there are Republicans. I have that vote, and I
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have a new line, independent line protect the animals, first
time ever in electoral history. My wife was able to
get the signatures to qualify it. It's the first independent
line on the ballot. Try to find angel Como in
the maze very difficult. And it calls for no killed
shelters and put animal abuses in jail. Let me tell
you something, there are a lot of women and men
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who are one issue voters out there when it comes
to animals. Mahatma Gandhi said, it's society that does not
take care of its animals, does not take care of
its people. And look at us here in New York City.
We don't take care of our homeless, our emotionally disturbed,
our veterans. But Cuomo supported the seven billion dollars that
Eric Adams spent on illegal aliens. People. We didn't even
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know I want to take care of our own. It's
time we bring it home and care for our homeless,
are emotionally disturbed, and most importantly, our veterans who have
been forsaken. You don't hear Homo saying that, and naturally
you don't hear.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
His artis Curtis. I love the protect animals thing. I
love dogs as much as any human being I've ever met,
and other animals too, So I think that's fantastic. But
I want to ask you about this, the Mam donnie
shape shifting situation here, or the code switching, the changing
it up on some of the stuff. For example, now
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he's saying he would keep Jessica Tish, who I actually
worked with at the NYPD many years ago, keep her
in the commissioner role. What do you make of that?
I mean, is it just a'll say anything to make
people not as scared of his communist nonsense as they
should be. What's going on?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Well, he's built the Blasio on steroids. Now, remember he's
more dangerous because build the basio halfway through the night
would be on the backboard your grat Sea mansion, smoking
his Maui Wowie and Hindu Kush with his grip to
wipe Charlette with Zara Mondami, he would give twenty hours
a day to destroying the city. But Deblasio, when he
was running in twenty thirteen, said I will choose Bill
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Bratton as my police commissioner. That was his insurance policy.
So he's following in the footsteps of his mentor, Bill
de Bosio by saying I will keep Jessica Tish. The
question is if you should win pull Jessica Tiss stay.
I don't know. I don't have conversations with her. I've
got my boots on the ground. I'm in the subways.
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I'm dealing with regular, average day, working class people. I'll
let the elites determine that while I'm in the streets.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Curtis Lee will with us right now, running Republican nominee
for mayor of New York City. You mentioned right off
the top that you've been offered ten million dollars to
drop out by billionaires. What do those offers look like
and will you tell us who's been offering for you
to be paid to drop out of the race.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
Yeah, well, there were seven calls that I fielded from
people I grew up with that are not supporting me.
They're supporting Cuomo, which is fine, but they were calling
on his behalf for me to drop out. And the
last call, which my wife listened to, who is an attorney, Nancy,
got to the point where I said no, no, a
thousand times no. And then he said, Curtis, everybody has
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a price. Ten million dollars is a lot of money
to walk away from. I said, guy, you know me,
I was born with nothing. I'll die with nothing. Ashes
to ashes, dust that dust. This sounds to me unethical.
It's a bribe. He could be illegal. And from that
day forward, my wife said, look, you got to put
everybody on blast that if they're going to talk to
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you about bribing you, you're going to be wired up
like a Christmas tree, which I am now. And they've
been no call since now. The people who reached me
have family people, They have businesses in the business of politics,
which you know is the dirtiest business of all, just
asked the founder of UFC. He said the same thing,
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the dirtiest business. I give these guys a past, they
know not what they do. But anybody moving forward, hey,
you're going to be prosecuted for obviously illegalities and for
what are corrupted practices.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Have you talked to Donald Trump? He has discussed your candidacy.
He's talked about the fact that sometimes he wishes you
would drop out because he's concerned about mom Donnie becoming
the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Have you talked to Trump? What have those conversations been like.
Speaker 11 (27:22):
No, I am not spoken to the president recently. For
forty years, I knew Donald Trump as a New Yorker.
We had a love hate relationship like most people had
with Donald Trump. I mean, you look at his vice president,
Jade Van's doing a great job. He called them hitler
in twenty sixteen, and now he's a vice president. So
I've been on the roller coaster with Donald Trump. Like
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most people. He's not reached out to me. He's not
talked to me. He certainly has had conversations with Andrew
Cuomo and with Eric Adams, and the President is free
to do what he wishes. I wish he would endorse me.
He hasn't, but I've always said publicly missed the President.
You're trying to get peace in the Middle East and
Persian Gulf. You're the only guy who can do that.
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You gotta get peace between Russia and Ukraine. You're the
only guy who can do that. He's dealing with Asia
now and the Red Chinese menace. He's the only guy
who can deal with that comparably to those bigger issues.
Do you think weighing in on the mayoral race in
New York City is equal to those? I don't think so.
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And by the way, Zoraan Mandami loves it, because then
he plays David to Goliath. He doesn't want to run
against Andrew Cuomoa Curtis Leeway. He wants to run against
Donald Trump, who happens not to be very popular in
New York City. He isn't around the country, he is
in other parts of New York State. The benefit of
my running and winning a mayoral election as a Republican
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is it's nineteen ninety three all over again. Rudy Giuliani won.
I am Rudy Giuliani two point zero, and next year
we set it up the way it was in ninety
four when Patta beat the better Cuomo Mario and we
had not only competence, no corruption, no chaos. Crime went
down with Rudy and with Pataki. You elect me the
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Republican mayor and then we pull out all the stops
to elect congresswoman at least Stefonic the governor next year
Republican Kennedy, and we can return to the days of
Giuliani and Pataki and send Kathy Hokle packing back to Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
All right, Curtis, real quick, we only have thirty seconds
before we get into heart break. Here. Where can people go?
We got a big wor audience. I want to mobilize
for you. What's the site? What do they do?
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Just go to sliwa for NYC dot com. That shliwa
fo r NYC dot com.
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Speaker 1 (30:48):
On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Welcome in everybody, Third Hour Play and Buck kicks off
right now. We've got Congressman Firon Donald's with us. Congressman,
appreciate you making the time, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
It's good to be with you. How you doing good.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We got some national questions for you. We've got some
Florida quo. I have some well. Clay actually is a
fluidy in a sense too kind of honorary because he
has property here. He lives on the Gulf of America
part time. And then we will probably have some sports
questions for you coming from Clay. So we will get
to all of the above here momentarily, let's start with
the national level one though you're in Congress, Congressman, that
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makes sense. I think everyone figured that part out. What
the heck is the Democrat plan with the shutdown that
now is about to shut off food stamps has already
cut into a cutoff paychecks for military members. I know
we had a Trump donor come in and make that
shortfall disappear temporarily. What is their plan? Like, what's the
endgame here?
Speaker 9 (31:44):
They don't have one. The rest of the country is
coming to this realization very fast. They don't have a plan.
These guys are trying to basically strong arm one of
the toughest negotiators in the history of the planet, and
they're trying to strong arm him. They don't have a plan.
They don't have a strategy. They figured that they just
stood there long enough, holding their breast and everybody would
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just buckle and yield to their view. A lot of
these Democrats are using historical political views of how Democrats
always win these shutdown fights, but they're not winning it.
They're losing it by the day. They were given an
opportunity to pay our military, to pay air traffic controllers,
to pay TSA agents, to pay border agents and ice agents,
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and they voted no. They have no plan, They got
no strategy. But the truth is they haven't had a
plan for a long time, and that is because their
policy sets are very radical. And they were totally fine
leaving an auto pen in charge of the country if
it meant that they got their way, and now that
that's gone, if Donald Trump is back, they don't know
what to do. That's why this shutdown seems to It
(32:52):
seems to be a shutdown really about nothing except Chuck
Schumer's leadership position.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
We're talking to Byron Donald's congressman South Florida's soon to
be I believe, governor state of Florida. Let's talk about
the governor's race right now, because I know you are
on the campaign trail right now. We're basically to Halloween.
Happy Halloween, everybody out there. You don't really have a
valuable challenger, yet that seems to me to be a
very good position to be in. You've raised a lot
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of money, what should we know about the campaign and
how it's going. What's the next step.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
We're going county by county and we're seeing the voters
of Florida. And you know, even though we still have
our responsibilities in Washington, when I'm not in Washington, I'm
in some city in Florida, some county in Florida, tucking
to the people. And you know, we're very blessed to
have President Trump's at full endorsement, Rick Scott's full endorsement. Obviously,
fundraising has gone very well, but it's about seeing people
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day and day out, and that's what we're committed to doing.
So you know, whoever else decides that they're gonna run
and jump in one, they got a lot of work
to catch up on and it's not gonna be easy.
We're gonna work hard every single day to earn the
votes of the people of Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Congressman, you're running for governor, and I know that in
many ways you would continue on with the policies and
the legacy of our fantastic Governor Ron DeSantis. He's done
a great job here and as a Floridian I really
appreciate and I get to benefit from the decisions he's made.
Governor DeSantis is very in favor of eliminating for homesteaded properties. Right, So,
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people for whom it is their primary residents as Floridians
property tax Where do you come down on that proposal,
which I believe is being put forward for the people
of Florida to vote on and a ballot initiative next fall.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Well, look, I support what the governor's position has been
about removing homestead property taxes on the people of Florida.
The thing we have to make sure we do is
when it comes to essential services that have historically been
funded by those taxes, talking about sheriffs, these police officers, firefighters,
emergency personnel, road construction, road maintenance. We just want to
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make sure that that stuff continues to be funded because
that's critical to the very fabric of Florida. So I
am fully supportive of it. I look forward to seeing
the governor's proposal. I anticipate that's going to come out
very very soon to talk about not just the repeal,
but then also the details are on how do you
fund some of those key initiatives like law enforcement, firefighters,
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emergency personnel. But I'm supportive looking forward to seeing Tallahassee.
Get this thing done and get it to the ballots
so voters can make their voices heard next November.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Congress from barn Donald's with us right now currently in
Congress running for governor of Florida. When you look, we
just been talking a lot about the mayor's race in
New York City. If I remember correctly, you were born
in New York City before you came down to the
Sunshine State and made a life of it there. How
much do you pay attention to the national decisions that
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are being made and what their impact could be on
the state of Florida, Because we've seen Governor Ron DeSantis
talk quite a lot about the fact that many people
in New York might decide to relocate to Florida with
the higher taxes coming. Buck is one of them that's
already done it. The President obviously did it. You did
it long before you had any money probably to speak of.
(36:19):
What would be your message to people listening to us
in New York right now that might be thinking, Hey,
if Mamdannie's going to be coming in, maybe New York's
not for me.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
Well, the number one thing is if Mandane becomes the
mayor and you feel you got to come to Florida.
Remember why you came here. Our state. We are a
low tax state. We don't have an income tax. Law
and order is the baseline principle of our state and
that's not changing. And so as long as you come
here understanding why you left New York and what Florida
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is about, then yeah, we're all Forida. I think on
a broader level, yeah, I do pay attention to what's
happening nationally. Obviously my job as a congressman right now
requires it. But the biggest thing we want to do
is make sure that Florida remains the number one state
in the country. And we want we want, we want
to really see happen. Is that policies that are passing
Florida that have become really the bedrock of what's made
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Florida great, that other states look at that and say,
you know what, we gotta follow Florida's lead, because if
you're looking at New York, Illinois, and California, they're dumpster fires.
I mean, they're awful and their people are leaving in droves.
It's time for other states, with Florida in the lead,
to adopt sound public policy that really puts people first,
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allows people to chase the American dream, whether that's Florida
or some other state.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
If Mam Donnie wins and he's New York City mayor,
we know AOC is still going to be in Congress.
Does Mam Donnie become a national face of the Democrat Party?
In your mind? Is he impactful in next year's midterm election?
Buck and I have been debating that. To what extent
do you think he is resonant then or relevant if
he is the mayor of New York City?
Speaker 9 (37:58):
Yeah, I do. I think he's going to be one
of the national faces of that party. I mean, look,
they're really struggling to find out who's in charge anyway.
You know, everybody's trying to jockey for physician. I think
that he's gonna you know, obviously, his face and his
name and what he says is going to carry a
lot of weight in the Democrat Party because he's the
mayor of New York. But look, I think from a
political standpoint, I think he's terrible for the for the country,
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He's awful for New York, and I think it's bad
for Democrats because the public policy that that these Marxists
in the radical left wing side of their party, led
by AOC and Mom Donnie and Bernie Sanders. That stuff
is destructive. I think the policy sets are destructive. I
don't know if somebody's a registered Democrat or registered Republican,
that's one thing. But to be an out and out
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Marxist and really subscribing the policies that have never worked
anywhere in the history of the planet, that's terrible for
New York City. I think as a country, it's going
to be something that everybody's going to be looking at
and we have to learn that we cannot let these
policies continue to flourish. I mean some places like a
Los Angeles, like a Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, their people
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are going to start demanding. I hope that they reverse
course on these terrible policies that do not work for people.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Eve any sense. I know you're still in a primaries
very early on, but what kind of a Democrat do
you think the Florida Democrats are going to run against you?
Given how much this state has gotten more red under DeSantis' tenure.
Are they going to try the head fake moderate or
somebody you think that's going to be a little more
on the Yeah, I'm a Democrat. Let's turn Florida into
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California and see what happens. But what's your expectation or
do you just not even have any expectation because it's
too early to know.
Speaker 9 (39:42):
I don't really care. I mean to be honest with you,
Governor DeSantis. During his leadership, he's really put the Florida
Democrat Party on life support. They're in a bad shape
over there, and they know they're in bad shape over there.
I don't really care. We're focused on number one, seeing
the people of Florida. Number two make a sure or
at the policy ideas that we're going to bring to
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build on top of the great success of Ron DeSantis
and what's happened in Florida, that our state continues to flourish,
and that we prepare Florida for the next generation of growth.
That's what we're focused on. Whatever the Democrats, whoever they
choose to throw at us and still be it, well,
we'll take care of them too.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Can you also be one word, just can you just
make fun of the balls or just say something to
antagonize play on sports? Please for me, because I would
do it. But I don't know enough.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
No, I'm not going to do it. They actually look okay,
they look better than them, so I gotta be quiet.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
He's definitely or governor. Look at how look at how
diplomatic he is.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Clay, No, I was. I was beat me to it.
I was just gonna say, what's up with your seminoles.
I went and watched them beat Alabama, and then I
went and watched them get smoked by Miami, and y'all
have lost four games in a row. I remember a
couple of years ago, you came on and made the
case for why you belong in the playoff. I don't
even know that you belong in the top half of
the ACC right now.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
Oh my gosh, here we go. By the way, if
you want to go back two years ago, yeah, we
should have been in that playoff. I'm not going to
bring it up again, but that was two years ago.
Last year was a bad season. Started off great, last
fourth not been good. The only thing I would say
about the team is the games have been close. But
you know, coach Norvel, he's got a lot of pressure
on him. He's got to turn this thing around. That's
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just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Really the UF is gonna do. By the way, you
got an open job at UF two. I'm sure you
saw this. The governor basically fired the governor of Louisiana
well after they got whipped by Texas A and M.
This is I don't know if Buck even saw this.
Jeff Landry, we need to get him back on. Jeff
Landry was like, this is ridiculous. Like Brian Kelly's out,
you know, I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Byron.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
He tried to show up. Brian Kelly did, and his
fingerprint didn't work to let let him in the building.
That's not a good side, all right. So the governor
just said, this is a mess Florida. I know you're
a Florida State fan, but the University of Florida's got
an opening and that's going to be a huge hire too.
But I saw the governor of louisianaway then I was like, Byron,
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he's a huge college football fan.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You got a bunch of big programs there.
Speaker 9 (42:06):
No, we do. I mean, look, there's a lot of
names that are out there. You have to notre dame coach.
He's been he's been very good. He's been pretty good,
very successful. I heard the rumors about Nick Saban. Is
he coming out of retirement. I'm not sure, you know,
I don't know if Nick likes the NIL. I think
that's probably a deal killer.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I think that's true.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
I don't think he likes it, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
What do you think about Lane Kiffin? How do you
think Lane? Yeah? How do you think Lane would do
at UF if he came?
Speaker 11 (42:32):
Well?
Speaker 9 (42:32):
Look, speaking as speaking as somebody who's who's trying to
run for governor, I think Lane would be a very
good choice for the Florida Gators speaking of the Florida
State seminole, No, they can do better than him.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Uh, Byron, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
What should people know who are out there listening all
over Florida as many people do, if they want to
support your campaign, where should they go?
Speaker 9 (42:54):
Just go to Byron Donalds dot com. I'm really excited
for everybody's support so far. But it's all about the
future of our state. We're going to take Florida to
a whole nother level.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Amen. I love to hear it. Honestly, you got two
guys that own property in Florida, one who lives your
year round. We got to just keep Florida. Awesome, Byron,
So I know that's your goal and that's what you're
going to do as well. So God bless it. Thanks
for making the time for us today.
Speaker 9 (43:18):
Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Look, I want to tell it, Buck, I've got some
picks coming tomorrow. I think I've already actually given out
the picks. Hold on, let me give you the picks.
We've been on fire. We've been doing really well with
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I think Byron Donald's gonna win. I think he's gonna
win Florida so comfortably. Remember it wasn't even very long ago.
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I do think it's worth mentioning. Remember twenty eighteen when
Ron DeSantis won Florida by fifty thousand votes. I think
it was How far away does that seem? If you
want to question how much a state can change in
the space of eight years. Basically, we're going to go
from Florida as the ultimate boss up state too. It's
not even remotely close anymore. And it's really pretty incredible
(44:06):
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Speaker 2 (45:39):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I talked
about this in the first hour. I think I mentioned
in the second hour. Darnet Clay. It's the third hour
and I'm kicking off the segment and I want to
do this one, all right, So we're going to dive
into this one. This is a great moment on television
because it involves Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller, and
this Trump White House, fantastic architect of so many Trump
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particularly immigration policies. But Katie Miller, whos launched a podcast
and we should have her back on. We had her
on already talk about it, but we'll have her back
on if she wants to come hang out with us.
And Jake Tapper scurrying away from the conversation as quickly
as possible. This is about Karine Jean Pierre's abject disaster
of a book tour that she's going on because her
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thing is she's an independent.
Speaker 8 (46:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I'm going to try to like give a very quick
version of her argument, Clay, because no one knows what
it really is. She's an independent now. But the Democrat
Party betrayed Biden, but she didn't see anything wrong with Biden.
But maybe Biden was too old, but they didn't have
to keep him in the spot, but they weren't nice
to him. I mean, it's I know that that was confusing,
(46:49):
because she's very confused about that. And then also add
on Kamala wasn't the best candidate, but she wasn't surprised
by how it went for Kamala because she was a
black woman. And unless you're a black woman, you can't
even understand how difficult it is to be a black
woman in America today. Over and over again in response
(47:10):
to some of these questions too, and so Katie Miller
decided she had enough of this. She was with CNN's
Jake Tapper last night and I just want you to
listen to this. This is this is just saying it,
just letting it, letting it be said on the airplay eight.
Speaker 12 (47:25):
She is just another evidence that DEI doesn't work, whether
that's in the White House in your press secretary role,
or whether that's a you know, an air traffic controller,
an air pilot, whether that's your doctor. You know, you
don't you want to hire the best for the role,
not just based on skin color, Jake, why did she
get the job over John Kirby?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
She had the job long before John Kirkby.
Speaker 13 (47:44):
I will just say she used to be a commentator
on CNN. Then she was one on MSNBC, and she
was good at that. Like I mean, I'm without getting
into the job.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I thought she did as Press secretary.
Speaker 13 (47:55):
It didn't seem crazy to me because she was eloquence
as a commentator.
Speaker 12 (48:00):
Why she trained every four sentences to say she is
a black queer LGBTQ woman because that's how she's been
promoted her entire career.
Speaker 13 (48:06):
Anyway, Katie Miller and Karen Finney, thank you so much,
I just.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Cause that is exactly I mean, she's just saying the
thing that we all know, which is that this woman
built a career on being a black lesbian and that
is the primary thing that she says in every interview,
and that now she's independent. She says she's not even
a Democrat anymore. That has been her calling card in
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the media and in politics, and maybe she actually wasn't
the best person for the job. This is what Katie
Miller is saying. And it's funny to watch Jake Tapper like, Okay,
let's just let's get out of here.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Here's what I would say. And once you think about it,
you will not be able to not see it. I said,
I've said on the show before. I think for the
Democrat Party, your race and your sexuality, your identity is
sword and shield. But go back in time and pretend
that instead of saying as a black gay woman or
(49:07):
as a you know, trans Hispanic person, like they all
give that to you as a prelude. It is the
modern day royalty. Think about it, Buck, You know, back
in the day when they used to talk about the
divine right of kings. When the king decreed something, he
would begin his decree by saying, as the eighth royal
(49:28):
Viscount of the Sheriff of Nottinga, we say viscount.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
I don't think we pronounced the y s, do we?
Speaker 9 (49:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I don't know. I've never actually heard anybody pronounce it.
I don't know, maybe all of the royalty. All of
the royalty is the precedence to the action as a
divine right of king, as your noble background. You use
your identity to justify your opinion. That's all that Democrats
do now. They start off their opinion as kree. Jean
(49:57):
Pierre is just one of the worst versions of it
by saying as a black gay woman, I believe, why
do I care about.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Your race or your sex? This is reminding me just
you guys. If people one of the questions we get
a lot, we got up. We were in a whoa
wo and thank you all in woo Land Fort in Indiana,
and we were out there recently. But one of the
questions we get a lot is, you know, show prep.
And I always say show prep is all the time.
We're constantly sending our team and Clay and I are
texting each other ideas and thoughts and everything. And one
(50:24):
thing I said to you guys, I just thought, this
is amazing. So Josh Barrow is a journalist, uh and
and he's he's a Democrat, but he's like one of
these guys. He's a little bit in the who's the
guy who's very solid on the First Amendment wrong, a
lot of other things, but you know, I'm talking about Greenwald.
He's a little bit like a great llah actually call
(50:46):
balls and strikes on certain things. And in the world
that actually did Bill marshow with Josh Barrow one. So
he's he's a high iq reasonable guy. You can reason
with him, right, And he shared this and it's the
twenty twenty two Democrat Party. I'm not gonna read the
whole thing versus the Democrat Party platform. Sorry, the Democrat
Party platform in twenty twelve versus clay in twenty twenty four,
(51:09):
twenty twelve. Today, our economy is growing. Al Qaida is
weaker than any point since nine to eleven. A manufacturing
sector is growing. We need to come together continue what
we started, reclaim the basic bargain for the largest middle
class on Earth. YadA, YadA, YadA. You know, America is great.
We have principles like actually pretty You can argue with
whether that's what the Democrat Party really stood for that
(51:30):
or whatever, but at least you know they're going through
the Democrat Party twenty twenty four platform. The DNC wishes
to acknowledge that we gather together to state our values
on lands that have been stewarded through centuries by the
ancestors and descendants of tribal nations who have been here
since time in memorial. Like, we're not imagining that these
people have gone nuts. Okay, they have gone nuts. This
(51:53):
is a real thing, and they no longer can make
coherent arguments. They live in a fantasy land. I think
this is another big story, Bill Gates. Bill Gates is
kind of like, well, you know, actually, we don't think
the climate change is an existential threat anymore.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
You don't say, mister globalist, extraordinary or climate change is
gonna kill everybody, start eating bugs, doesn't matter if it
gives you man boobs.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
He is now saying climate change is not an existential threat.
Kind of like you and me and everybody listening right
now was right about this the whole time, Clay, these
people are insane.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, when you talked about the land acknowledgment, it reminded
me of the study that came out Mentions of men
in the twenty twelve versus twenty twenty four Democrat primary
Democrat platform fell by sixty three percent, fathers fell by
one hundred percent, and responsibility fell by eighty three percent. Meanwhile,
(52:53):
the references to LGBTQ wrights increased one thousand and forty
five four percent. So they have written out men, they
have written out fathers from the Democrat platform, and they
have ten times the reference to gay people and trans writes.
(53:13):
And so you're not making it up. I mean, the
difference in just twelve years between the actual platform of
Barack Obama twenty twelve and Kamala Harris twenty twenty four
is it's not even in the same ballparks. It's frankly
a completely different party. And also, we're in an era
now where you're allowed to say things without real fear
(53:35):
of cancellation, and you're just allowed to say things that
are manifestly and obviously true. And to bring it back
to the Korean Jean Pierre situation for a minute, here
is somebody who we are told is important because she
is black and LGBTQ and has the following job, and
that those were important qualifications for that job. You better
(54:00):
not say that in any way she was helped in
getting that job because she is black in lgbt Q.
That is an impossible proposition to square. That makes no sense.
This has been true by the way of all affirmative
action plans. This has been true of all these different
racial set asides and racial entitlement things in America that
(54:21):
we've all had to suffer through for decades, being lied
to and told you have to celebrate this, and you
can't talk about it at the same time, or this
is why we're doing it, and you're not allowed to
say it out loud. I know a guy at a
law firm almost lost his job because he said at
a diversity hiring event, well, it's great, we're getting so
much diversity going here. Someone didn't like the way he
(54:42):
said it, and he almost got fired from his job.
Now this is many years ago, but things like you
can't say I like diversity at the diversity hiring event, Clay,
if you're a white guy, people might think you said
it kind of funny. That was the America that we
were living in pre Trump. I think we still are
because it's the foundation of the Democrat Party and it's
sorting shield. To me, that's an easy way to distill
it because they're allowed to wield it as a sword
(55:05):
to attack you. She can say I'm black and gay
all the time, but as soon as you say any
reference to her being black and gay. The shield comes up,
and that is not able to be referenced by you,
and so you could both attack and defend based on it,
but you were not allowed to be attacked or in
any way referenced it by others.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
A perfect example of this is Supreme Court Justice Ktanji
Brown Jackson, who we were told by Joe Biden, I'm
definitely hiring. I mean, we've talked about this many times
on the show. Definitely hiring, not hiring, appointing a black
woman on the Supreme Court. So that cuts down. That's
ninety seven percent of people in America, or not ninety
(55:48):
seven it's maybe a little less than that, but.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
No, no, it's about ninety seven percent of lawyers. Because only
about three percent of lawyers ever we got women, thank you,
So it is not so ninety seven percent of people
are out of the pool of possible right away.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's scus in a pretty significant fashion. What you're going
to be looking at in terms of actual legal qualifications,
cognitive abilities, wisdom, career, all that stuff, right, And yet
they'll say, we have to give it to a person
with these qualifications. But you're not allowed to say that
those qualifications were necessary for the job. That is cognitive
(56:22):
dissonance that we do not have to live through or
should not have to live through anymore. Yeah, you're right.
The Democrats still are on this clay, but the culture
has shifted. You can say these things now. I mean,
listen to what Katie Miller said on CNN. I mean
she was just laying it out there. One more thing
while we have this. This is kind of like the
grab bag. I'm doing a whole bunch of things. The ones.
Where is the uh uh? It's not going so well
(56:44):
for Kamala Cut which one? Oh, here we go CNN's
Abby Phillip talking to the breakfast club with mister the
God and the rest of the crew. There here is
cut five. Listen to this one. What does she do
this summer?
Speaker 9 (56:57):
Run?
Speaker 14 (56:57):
Should she even run again? You know, I've been talking
to a lot of people about that, because, as you know,
this book was very controversial, and it was even more
controversial than you think in private. In private, I think
there's a lot of controversy around it because I think
that there are a lot of bridges that are burned here,
(57:18):
whether she wanted to or not. And I think it
will be very difficult for her to mend those fences
that she'll need in order to run if she just
decided to run again. I think this book read kind
of like somebody who was kind of done with it,
so I will be interested to see if she decides
(57:38):
to do it.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
Reads. As a comologist, I can tell you it does
read like someone who is bitter and possibly done with it, Clay,
even though you would think it would be rehabilitate the
image so that there can be around to run for
Kamala Harris in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, I think she's going to run because I did not.
Thankfully you have to read this book. But there is
nothing else for which she is going to spend time.
She just turned sixty. She is not a mom. I
know she's a stepmom. It's different than being a mom.
She's not a grandma. I don't think she particularly likes
her husband, Doug. I don't think she wants to kick
(58:19):
her feet up and just be a professor. You know,
a president of a university. Better way would you say there?
A Doug might give you a little chin music there, Clay.
You know, look, Doug's been known to slap around women.
I don't think he's been known to slap around men
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thoughts on this. And remember Curtis Sliwah, the Republican candidate
in this You have a Democrat comi Is Mamdani, and
then you got Cuomo as the independent really third party
candidate here, and then you have Curtis Sliwah running as
(00:56):
the Republican in this race. Curtis is going to make
his case. Many of you in the New York area
have been saying, hey, guys, you gotta have Curtis on.
Of course we're gonna have Curtison, and we have tried
to have Cuomo on. He is dodging and weaving and
stalling kind of like his campaign. Yeah, not really taking
(01:18):
anything all that seriously, Cuomo. Uh turns out not very
good at politics. That's that's a thing that can happen
when you've only gotten where you are because people know
your last name because Dandy was the governor for a
long time. So this is what we have seen with him.
But let's dive in, mister Clay to more of this uh,
(01:38):
more of this mam donni stuff out there. I don't
know which is the worst one of these two. So
let me start with this. These are flashbacks. Now, this
is twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I would argue the
campaign is saying that mam donni campaign is saying, oh,
he's evolved. No, Actually, what you saw with people in
(01:58):
twenty twenty and twenty two twenty one is what do
they really think? Because when all of a sudden they
felt free to be as radical left and insane as
they want with no not only no consequence, but it
was in their interest to do so. They let it rip.
So they showed you who they really were in twenty
twenty and twenty twenty one, whether it was on COVID
or BLAM or any of these things. Clay, here is
(02:20):
Mom Donnie on police and prisons in August of twenty
twenty is before that election that as well. We'll talk
about that another time. This has cut four play it.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The way that prisons are set up in our society,
I would argue that they do not work. They do
not make us safer. The instinct is to just take
that person, the source of that harm, the source of
that issue, and then just throw them away, put them
in a cage and throw away the That doesn't address
the reason why that arm was created in the first place.
A lot of times people who create trauma for others
(02:54):
that those with themselves.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Went through trauma earlier in their own lives.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And I bring all of this up to say that,
you know, again, like when we talk about policing, I
don't think the system actually makes us safer.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I think what it does is it just removes problems
out of view.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So Clay, when someone has been arrested fifty or one
hundred times, which is not unusual in New York City
for the criminal class. The problem, according to Mamdani, is
us is everybody else is the law abiding people of
New York City. Prisons don't make us safer. This is
why old ladies can't walk down the street in some
(03:30):
cities in America, including some neighborhoods. New York overall is
pretty safe, but some neighborhoods of New York without getting
some maniac punching them in the face.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
How much of this And we've got other cuts that
I think we need to play too. So prisons don't
make us safer, we also have This is more detailed,
and this sounds like a lot of sort of I
would say colonialism clap trap that is taught is people
like his day. But here he says that he got
(04:03):
into politics to fight apartheid from the inside. Let's play
this too. This is cut three. This is from June
of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I respect that there are many differences of opinion about
the value of electoralism, the value of engaging with the state,
But I do think that as long as the state
has this monopoly on violence, then we have to contest
the state at every which point and every which place
and there is an opportunity to have our voices heard
within the state, and obviously by becoming a member of
(04:34):
the state in terms of its political class, you are
compromised because you're legitimizing.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It in many ways. But I think if I didn't
see the ability for us to claim victories from the inside,
then I wouldn't be doing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
This, Okay, I mean he is a committed left wing idiologue.
Let's also play cut two. This is June fifth, twenty
twenty one. This is where he says the ny P
and the IDF.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
If you're wondering, like, how did the world.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Did so many leftists end up in this world where
they're camping on campuses, they're protesting. This is the kind
of talk that propels that this is very common on
college campus.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Is cut to the.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Cruelty of what is happening in Israel. In Palestine. It
is a cruelty that is systematized and does not simply
rise and fall when the IDF decides to kill men, women, children,
and families beyond the binary in Palestine in different moments
of spikes. I think of how the NYPD and the
IDF have had a relationship for many years. A relationship.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
That has meant, you know, tactics of oppression crossing from
one country to the other, and that has meant an
increased you know, surveillance and impression of marginalized people wherever
they may be.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So, I mean, all of this is gobblygook university campus talk.
But what's important here Buck, and we hit on this yesterday,
and I think it's important for all of you is
to understand that when he says he's disavowing this, everyone
who hears this knows that he is lying when he's
saying he disavows this, because this is not some off
the cuff comment that happened to be made, and it's
(06:15):
not deeply thought. He believes intellectually in the idea that
Israel is in apartheid state, that the NYPD exist as
a colonialist occupier to put their boots on the throats
of minority and that you must overthrow the systems of
government that exist in the United States in order for
the people to truly be free.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's what he believes.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So you can't suddenly say, oh, I misspoke a few
times back in twenty and twenty one, and you're right.
This was the era when leftist felt the most free
to say what they truly believed because their power.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Was in ascendants. And he's mentioning the IDF here, which
you might say, what does that have to do with
the NYPD. So I was in NYPD Intelligence now Bureau,
formerly divisioned And yeah, the NYPD has relationships with law
enforcement in Israel. It also has relationships with law enforcement
(07:12):
in dozens of countries all over the world, in the UK,
in Australia, in France, you know, in Japan. Find me
a country that America has a close relationship with, and
there's a pretty good chance the NYPD has some kind
of liaison relationship with that country. Why the IDF, like,
or rather why Israel? Right, we know the answer, but
(07:33):
it's just so it's just so telling that he finds this,
this little thing. Oh, because the New York Police Department
has a relationship with law enforcement in Israel, mostly in
Tel Aviv. There's some nefarious thing going on here. And
what was the line he used that when it's the
(07:53):
boots of the NYPD, the IDF is lacing them up.
I mean, that's really that's like protocols of the Elders
of Zion on kind of anti Semitism and antij and
this guy is going to become the mayor of New
York City, which actually has more I think it has
more Jewish people in New York City than Tel Aviv.
So that's interesting that this guy is somehow going to
(08:13):
be the mayor of New York.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
But a lot of Upper West Side Jewish Americans are
going to vote for this guy, Klay, That's the part
that's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And also I would say, if Jews were really running
the country, don't you think they could maybe have a
mayor who doesn't hate them in New York City? I
mean for people, because there's people on the right now
who say, oh, you're owned by Israel.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh, Israel's running everything.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, don't you think if Israel was running everything that
they would pick someone as mayor of New York City who,
as Buck just pointed out, has a large Jewish population
that doesn't hate them. And this is honestly where Andrew Cuomo,
who is also an awful candidate. There's all this stuff
out there that Mamdannie has said that should be fertile
(09:01):
for anyone who is good at politics or running campaigns,
which evidently Andrew Cuomo is not. I think partly it's
that he's still relying on legacy media, because that's how
he has fueled his entire political career, and legacy media
every day becomes less powerful and less popular, and Mamdanni
has leaned into stupid TikTok videos and doing ads during
(09:23):
the Bachelor and all these things that people in their
twenties and thirties look at and are connected to. Let's
listen to this. This is Cuomo a little bit earlier
today on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo saying the left
wing of the Democrat Party will destroy the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
Listen, there's a quiet civil war going on in the
Democratic Party right now. You have an extreme radical left
Bernie Sanders AOC. Mamdani is just the banner carrier for
that movement versus the mainstream moderate Democrats. They now call
me moderate. They used to call me liberal.
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Now I'm a.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Moderate because the whole party shifted. And that's what this
election is about. It is that civil war. I believe
that far left will destroy the Democratic Party. I believe
it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if that far
left becomes dominant.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I think he's one hundred percent right about this book.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The problem is what he is pointing to I think
actually benefits Mamdanni in New York City because I think
a lot of young people are frustrated, and when you
are frustrated, you challenge the consensus, candidates, people in positions
of power, the guys who know how to talk to,
all the CEOs.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You live through this.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Occupy Wall Street is just a form of what Mamdanni
is basically arguing, now distilled in a more articulate, front
facing version.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You may be able to speak to it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I don't remember was there ever a really great spokesperson
for Occui Wall Street.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't remember one who.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Really kind of captivated the nation. Mamdanie is in many
ways a voice for that anger that has been percolating
in New York City for a long time.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, what was fascinating about Occupy Wall Street was it
was done under the Obama administration. Yeah, and so there
was all this the people in charge, I mean not Obama,
but like the other people are like really best. So
if it had been a Republican, it would have had
a lot more oomph behind it. Yeah, right, But people
have said it was more a meme than a movement.
I think that's probably an accurate description of it, but
(11:35):
it did. It did have a lot of the class
warfare stuff going on, and it was a collective so
there was no individual spokesperson for it. But isn't interesting
Occupy Wall Street And the first iteration of BLM happened
on Obama's watch, which was so so it was this
game of like, we're so upset at the people in charge.
(11:55):
They're all bought off by corporate interest, but not Obama.
I mean, he's basically, I mean, he's incredible, He's a deity.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
This also, by the way, with Mam Donnie, I think
this is so important for those of you out there
who say, well, I don't care about what happens in
the Middle East. I don't care about what happens in Israel.
They are exporting the same arguments from Israel in the
Middle East to the United States now. And this is
a story that I wanted to hit buck and I'll
mention it right now. But Mam Donnie's father, we played
the cut yesterday of him saying Abraham Lincoln was Hitler's
(12:26):
motivation as his guide for the Holocaust. Mam Donnie's dad
wrote a book post nine to eleven, saying the United
States and al Qaeda were moral equivalents because the US
invaded Afghanistan, which he saw as a similar in nature
(12:48):
act as the attack on the World Trade Centers. And
you say, okay, well that's crazy. This is what they
have argued that Israel's response to October seventh, when twelve
hundred Jews were killed, two hundreds of them were captured
and held hostage for years, that Israel was the moral
equivalent of Hamas in the way that they responded. And
(13:12):
this argument started with oh yeah, sure, nine to eleven
al Qaeda flew into American skyscrapers and killed thousands of people,
But America's response to al Qaeda was in fact the
same as al Qaida, And in fact the mom Danni's
dads of the world buck as you well know because
you saw it happen at your school, argued that America
(13:33):
deserved it because we actually started and provoked the nine
to eleven attack, in their mind, based on things that
America had done in the past.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Including of course big friends with Israel. So yeah, that's
always that's always in there, somehow, always a part of it,
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Donnie Cuomo and Sliwa, and the Republican nominee for the
New York City Mayor's office is in with us now.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He is Curtis Sliwa. And Curtis, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Coming on the show, and I know that you are
running around like crazy talking everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So I'm just going to start off. Let's just dive
right into it.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I have pledged if you win, so you know, to
wear a red beret for a week and open up
a bar tab at a sports bar not run by
communists in New York City. So I'm on the record there.
If you win, here's my concern. You can tell me
why I'm a moron if you stay in this race.
I think on Wednesday we are going to wake up
(16:01):
and we are going to see that Mam Donni did
not get the majority of the vote. But that you
and Andrew Cuomo have split the anti Mam Donnie vote
and as a result, this awful Marxist, left wing lunatic
Mam Donnie is going to be the next mayor of
New York City. If that happens, will you feel responsible?
(16:23):
How would you respond to someone like me who thinks
that that's the most likely outcome if you stay in
the race.
Speaker 11 (16:30):
Well, let's go back to your initial statement. That's too
easy at a bartab in a jin mil how about
writing the number fourteen the muggers express with me and
your red beret fighting crime. Yeah, yeah, that's a little
more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
But on this all right, I will join you on
whatever public transit you would like me to join you on.
If you are New York City's mayor in a red beret,
I will join you. So I'll step it up a notch.
Speaker 11 (16:56):
But remember, wait a second. The reason there is is
Jorhan Mandami. He said you had a failed mayor, Eric Adams,
the most corrupt in the history of New York City.
And that's saying a lot. Had he been a halfway
decent mayor, it would have been round to twenty twenty five,
as it was in twenty twenty one, Eric Adams and
coming Democrat running against Republican challenger Curtis Sleiewer. So Eric
(17:20):
Adams failed Democrat, then into a Cuomo like a political zombie.
Came back from the Hamptons where he was hanging out
with his billionaire friends with forty points a head on
March first when he announced he was running in the
Democratic primary to become the next mayor. Three and a
half months later, with zon Mondamie at one percent when
(17:41):
into announced that forty percent, he got beat by thirteen
percent and admitted he ran a horrible race. He didn't
do retail politics. Well, guess what. Just recently, The New
York Post published a story that said that ENTONM. Como
has been absent from the campaign trail for ten days
since Labor Day. You don't win elections that way. I'm
(18:02):
in the subways, I'm in the streets, I'm on the buses.
I'm meeting the people, the voters. I am the republican populist,
blue collar, working class Kennedy. That's my pathway to victory.
Andrew Como is responsible for the rise of zoa' mondami
and the Democrats are responsible for the Socialists taking over
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their party. So why would I even drop out? And
by the way, you can't drop out. I'm on the
ballot now, I'm not on the number two line. I'm
the Republican Cannidy. There's no dropping out. I've never intended
to drop out. Billionaires tried to bribe me with ten
million dollars. Now I got to walk around with armed
guards along with my wife Nancy because our lives have
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been threatened. You really think that courteously, with everything I've
been through in my life, is going to drop out?
Think of that last scene in Braveheart where mel Gibson
is on the gurney and the executioner says, I want
you to bow to the King of England or I'm
gonna impail you. I'm saying impale me. I will never
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support Angewel Cuomo the prince of evil. He's cold hearted.
He is the worst of what the Democratic Party represents.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So if I am right though, and Mam Donnie wins
because you and Cuomo split the anti Mam Donni vote,
is it your contention that Mam Donni is not gonna
be worse than Cuomo would be. And by the way,
Bucket not neither Buck nor I have any love loss
for Cuomo at all, and Bucks you've won Buck over
with your brave heart analogy there.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yes, but I'm gonna say that's that's all I needed
to hear. But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
But if if Mam Donni is elected, do you not
think that he will be worse for New York City
than Cuomo? Or do you think they're both so awful?
There's no distinction at all, no matter who would win.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
There.
Speaker 11 (19:50):
Well, the reason that we lock up two faces and
our criminals is the architect of the cash bail Andewel Cuomo,
and then his apprentice is Johamand guys, My oldest son
Anthony was nearly killed in a gang attack juveniles. They
stomped him. He's lucky to have survived because of the
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architect of raised the age, Cuomo and his supporter on
that the apprentice or on Mandami. These five juveniles, who
should have gone to criminal court and been charged with
adult crimes, went to family court and were released on
their own recognizance to their parents. And then lastly Governor
Cuomo when he was in charge ten years ago before
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he fled impeachment to the Hamptons, he was the architect
of closing our prison Rikers Island and his apprentice, Jorhan Mandami,
they both have led to the crime crisis that were
in now. I see no differentiation. They are birds of
a feather, two peas in a pod. They're Democrats. They
have caused the destruction of New York State. They're looking
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to destroy New York City. And again, Andrew Cuomo has
only himself to blame for Jorhan Mandami being the Democratic
nominee because he didn't run a race. So I'm the Republican.
I have Republican values completely different than my adversaries. I
believe this is a strange notion in America, isn't it.
Democracy should prevail. The billionaires aren't going to choose the mayor,
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or the influences or the inside is the people, one person,
one vote. Let the people choose the next mayor. Cuomo
has already signaled that if he loses his on on Mondami,
he's fleeing to Florida. I stay, I fight for what
I know is right, improved.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Don't move.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
If I happen to lose his on, I will become
his worst night mare. Twenty four to seven, three six
five I fight, fight, fight, fight. Cuomo runs, runs, runs, runs.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
All right, So now the other New Yorker here, Curtis,
wants to jump in. I wanted Clay to be able
to get out there because he's been he's been worried
about the ticket splitting issue. I just want to throw
out there that I think blue face paint a La
Braveheart along with your red beret would be a good
look in these final days, because that is a fantastic movie.
And now to his point, you have won me over
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with your fight to the very end. But tell me this,
how is it that you could win? Is it that
all the polls, If you win based on what the
so called intelligentsia and the political political class, pundits, et cetera,
based on what they've been saying, it would be the
biggest upset. I don't know. I mean, certainly along the
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lines of Trump twenty sixteen, bigger than that based on
the numbers. What do you say to those people who
are telling you you're a long shot, you're a no shot,
and you're just helping the other side, right, how do
you win? What's your pathway look like?
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Last time I ran against Serry Adams and Remember I
did want everybody he would be corrupt and they would
be chaos. I was right about that. I got twenty
eight percent of the vote. So I build on the
twenty eight percent. I not only have conservative Republican votes,
there are two and a half times the number of independents,
and there are Republicans. I have that vote, and I
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have a new line, independent line protect the animals, first
time ever in electoral history. My wife was able to
get the signatures to qualify it. It's the first independent
line on the ballot. Try to find angel Como in
the maze very difficult. And it calls for no killed
shelters and put animal abuses in jail. Let me tell
you something, there are a lot of women and men
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who are one issue voters out there when it comes
to animals. Mahatma Gandhi said, it's society that does not
take care of its animals, does not take care of
its people. And look at us here in New York City.
We don't take care of our homeless, our emotionally disturbed,
our veterans. But Cuomo supported the seven billion dollars that
Eric Adams spent on illegal aliens. People. We didn't even
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know I want to take care of our own. It's
time we bring it home and care for our homeless,
are emotionally disturbed, and most importantly, our veterans who have
been forsaken. You don't hear Homo saying that, and naturally
you don't hear.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
His artis Curtis. I love the protect animals thing. I
love dogs as much as any human being I've ever met,
and other animals too, So I think that's fantastic. But
I want to ask you about this, the Mam donnie
shape shifting situation here, or the code switching, the changing
it up on some of the stuff. For example, now
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he's saying he would keep Jessica Tish, who I actually
worked with at the NYPD many years ago, keep her
in the commissioner role. What do you make of that?
I mean, is it just a'll say anything to make
people not as scared of his communist nonsense as they
should be. What's going on?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Well, he's built the Blasio on steroids. Now, remember he's
more dangerous because build the basio halfway through the night
would be on the backboard your grat Sea mansion, smoking
his Maui Wowie and Hindu Kush with his grip to
wipe Charlette with Zara Mondami, he would give twenty hours
a day to destroying the city. But Deblasio, when he
was running in twenty thirteen, said I will choose Bill
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Bratton as my police commissioner. That was his insurance policy.
So he's following in the footsteps of his mentor, Bill
de Bosio by saying I will keep Jessica Tish. The
question is if you should win pull Jessica Tiss stay.
I don't know. I don't have conversations with her. I've
got my boots on the ground. I'm in the subways.
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I'm dealing with regular, average day, working class people. I'll
let the elites determine that while I'm in the streets.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Curtis Lee will with us right now, running Republican nominee
for mayor of New York City. You mentioned right off
the top that you've been offered ten million dollars to
drop out by billionaires. What do those offers look like
and will you tell us who's been offering for you
to be paid to drop out of the race.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
Yeah, well, there were seven calls that I fielded from
people I grew up with that are not supporting me.
They're supporting Cuomo, which is fine, but they were calling
on his behalf for me to drop out. And the
last call, which my wife listened to, who is an attorney, Nancy,
got to the point where I said no, no, a
thousand times no. And then he said, Curtis, everybody has
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a price. Ten million dollars is a lot of money
to walk away from. I said, guy, you know me,
I was born with nothing. I'll die with nothing. Ashes
to ashes, dust that dust. This sounds to me unethical.
It's a bribe. He could be illegal. And from that
day forward, my wife said, look, you got to put
everybody on blast that if they're going to talk to
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you about bribing you, you're going to be wired up
like a Christmas tree, which I am now. And they've
been no call since now. The people who reached me
have family people, They have businesses in the business of politics,
which you know is the dirtiest business of all, just
asked the founder of UFC. He said the same thing,
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the dirtiest business. I give these guys a past, they
know not what they do. But anybody moving forward, hey,
you're going to be prosecuted for obviously illegalities and for
what are corrupted practices.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Have you talked to Donald Trump? He has discussed your candidacy.
He's talked about the fact that sometimes he wishes you
would drop out because he's concerned about mom Donnie becoming
the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Have you talked to Trump? What have those conversations been like.
Speaker 11 (27:22):
No, I am not spoken to the president recently. For
forty years, I knew Donald Trump as a New Yorker.
We had a love hate relationship like most people had
with Donald Trump. I mean, you look at his vice president,
Jade Van's doing a great job. He called them hitler
in twenty sixteen, and now he's a vice president. So
I've been on the roller coaster with Donald Trump. Like
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most people. He's not reached out to me. He's not
talked to me. He certainly has had conversations with Andrew
Cuomo and with Eric Adams, and the President is free
to do what he wishes. I wish he would endorse me.
He hasn't, but I've always said publicly missed the President.
You're trying to get peace in the Middle East and
Persian Gulf. You're the only guy who can do that.
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You gotta get peace between Russia and Ukraine. You're the
only guy who can do that. He's dealing with Asia
now and the Red Chinese menace. He's the only guy
who can deal with that comparably to those bigger issues.
Do you think weighing in on the mayoral race in
New York City is equal to those? I don't think so.
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And by the way, Zoraan Mandami loves it, because then
he plays David to Goliath. He doesn't want to run
against Andrew Cuomoa Curtis Leeway. He wants to run against
Donald Trump, who happens not to be very popular in
New York City. He isn't around the country, he is
in other parts of New York State. The benefit of
my running and winning a mayoral election as a Republican
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is it's nineteen ninety three all over again. Rudy Giuliani won.
I am Rudy Giuliani two point zero, and next year
we set it up the way it was in ninety
four when Patta beat the better Cuomo Mario and we
had not only competence, no corruption, no chaos. Crime went
down with Rudy and with Pataki. You elect me the
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Republican mayor and then we pull out all the stops
to elect congresswoman at least Stefonic the governor next year
Republican Kennedy, and we can return to the days of
Giuliani and Pataki and send Kathy Hokle packing back to Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
All right, Curtis, real quick, we only have thirty seconds
before we get into heart break. Here. Where can people go?
We got a big wor audience. I want to mobilize
for you. What's the site? What do they do?
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Just go to sliwa for NYC dot com. That shliwa
fo r NYC dot com.
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Speaker 1 (30:48):
On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Welcome in everybody, Third Hour Play and Buck kicks off
right now. We've got Congressman Firon Donald's with us. Congressman,
appreciate you making the time, sir.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
It's good to be with you. How you doing good.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We got some national questions for you. We've got some
Florida quo. I have some well. Clay actually is a
fluidy in a sense too kind of honorary because he
has property here. He lives on the Gulf of America
part time. And then we will probably have some sports
questions for you coming from Clay. So we will get
to all of the above here momentarily, let's start with
the national level one though you're in Congress, Congressman, that
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makes sense. I think everyone figured that part out. What
the heck is the Democrat plan with the shutdown that
now is about to shut off food stamps has already
cut into a cutoff paychecks for military members. I know
we had a Trump donor come in and make that
shortfall disappear temporarily. What is their plan? Like, what's the
endgame here?
Speaker 9 (31:44):
They don't have one. The rest of the country is
coming to this realization very fast. They don't have a plan.
These guys are trying to basically strong arm one of
the toughest negotiators in the history of the planet, and
they're trying to strong arm him. They don't have a plan.
They don't have a strategy. They figured that they just
stood there long enough, holding their breast and everybody would
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just buckle and yield to their view. A lot of
these Democrats are using historical political views of how Democrats
always win these shutdown fights, but they're not winning it.
They're losing it by the day. They were given an
opportunity to pay our military, to pay air traffic controllers,
to pay TSA agents, to pay border agents and ice agents,
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and they voted no. They have no plan, They got
no strategy. But the truth is they haven't had a
plan for a long time, and that is because their
policy sets are very radical. And they were totally fine
leaving an auto pen in charge of the country if
it meant that they got their way, and now that
that's gone, if Donald Trump is back, they don't know
what to do. That's why this shutdown seems to It
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seems to be a shutdown really about nothing except Chuck
Schumer's leadership position.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
We're talking to Byron Donald's congressman South Florida's soon to
be I believe, governor state of Florida. Let's talk about
the governor's race right now, because I know you are
on the campaign trail right now. We're basically to Halloween.
Happy Halloween, everybody out there. You don't really have a
valuable challenger, yet that seems to me to be a
very good position to be in. You've raised a lot
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of money, what should we know about the campaign and
how it's going. What's the next step.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
We're going county by county and we're seeing the voters
of Florida. And you know, even though we still have
our responsibilities in Washington, when I'm not in Washington, I'm
in some city in Florida, some county in Florida, tucking
to the people. And you know, we're very blessed to
have President Trump's at full endorsement, Rick Scott's full endorsement. Obviously,
fundraising has gone very well, but it's about seeing people
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day and day out, and that's what we're committed to doing.
So you know, whoever else decides that they're gonna run
and jump in one, they got a lot of work
to catch up on and it's not gonna be easy.
We're gonna work hard every single day to earn the
votes of the people of Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Congressman, you're running for governor, and I know that in
many ways you would continue on with the policies and
the legacy of our fantastic Governor Ron DeSantis. He's done
a great job here and as a Floridian I really
appreciate and I get to benefit from the decisions he's made.
Governor DeSantis is very in favor of eliminating for homesteaded properties. Right, So,
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people for whom it is their primary residents as Floridians
property tax Where do you come down on that proposal,
which I believe is being put forward for the people
of Florida to vote on and a ballot initiative next fall.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Well, look, I support what the governor's position has been
about removing homestead property taxes on the people of Florida.
The thing we have to make sure we do is
when it comes to essential services that have historically been
funded by those taxes, talking about sheriffs, these police officers, firefighters,
emergency personnel, road construction, road maintenance. We just want to
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make sure that that stuff continues to be funded because
that's critical to the very fabric of Florida. So I
am fully supportive of it. I look forward to seeing
the governor's proposal. I anticipate that's going to come out
very very soon to talk about not just the repeal,
but then also the details are on how do you
fund some of those key initiatives like law enforcement, firefighters,
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emergency personnel. But I'm supportive looking forward to seeing Tallahassee.
Get this thing done and get it to the ballots
so voters can make their voices heard next November.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Congress from barn Donald's with us right now currently in
Congress running for governor of Florida. When you look, we
just been talking a lot about the mayor's race in
New York City. If I remember correctly, you were born
in New York City before you came down to the
Sunshine State and made a life of it there. How
much do you pay attention to the national decisions that
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are being made and what their impact could be on
the state of Florida, Because we've seen Governor Ron DeSantis
talk quite a lot about the fact that many people
in New York might decide to relocate to Florida with
the higher taxes coming. Buck is one of them that's
already done it. The President obviously did it. You did
it long before you had any money probably to speak of.
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What would be your message to people listening to us
in New York right now that might be thinking, Hey,
if Mamdannie's going to be coming in, maybe New York's
not for me.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
Well, the number one thing is if Mandane becomes the
mayor and you feel you got to come to Florida.
Remember why you came here. Our state. We are a
low tax state. We don't have an income tax. Law
and order is the baseline principle of our state and
that's not changing. And so as long as you come
here understanding why you left New York and what Florida
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is about, then yeah, we're all Forida. I think on
a broader level, yeah, I do pay attention to what's
happening nationally. Obviously my job as a congressman right now
requires it. But the biggest thing we want to do
is make sure that Florida remains the number one state
in the country. And we want we want, we want
to really see happen. Is that policies that are passing
Florida that have become really the bedrock of what's made
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Florida great, that other states look at that and say,
you know what, we gotta follow Florida's lead, because if
you're looking at New York, Illinois, and California, they're dumpster fires.
I mean, they're awful and their people are leaving in droves.
It's time for other states, with Florida in the lead,
to adopt sound public policy that really puts people first,
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allows people to chase the American dream, whether that's Florida
or some other state.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
If Mam Donnie wins and he's New York City mayor,
we know AOC is still going to be in Congress.
Does Mam Donnie become a national face of the Democrat Party?
In your mind? Is he impactful in next year's midterm election?
Buck and I have been debating that. To what extent
do you think he is resonant then or relevant if
he is the mayor of New York City?
Speaker 9 (37:58):
Yeah, I do. I think he's going to be one
of the national faces of that party. I mean, look,
they're really struggling to find out who's in charge anyway.
You know, everybody's trying to jockey for physician. I think
that he's gonna you know, obviously, his face and his
name and what he says is going to carry a
lot of weight in the Democrat Party because he's the
mayor of New York. But look, I think from a
political standpoint, I think he's terrible for the for the country,
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He's awful for New York, and I think it's bad
for Democrats because the public policy that that these Marxists
in the radical left wing side of their party, led
by AOC and Mom Donnie and Bernie Sanders. That stuff
is destructive. I think the policy sets are destructive. I
don't know if somebody's a registered Democrat or registered Republican,
that's one thing. But to be an out and out
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Marxist and really subscribing the policies that have never worked
anywhere in the history of the planet, that's terrible for
New York City. I think as a country, it's going
to be something that everybody's going to be looking at
and we have to learn that we cannot let these
policies continue to flourish. I mean some places like a
Los Angeles, like a Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, their people
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are going to start demanding. I hope that they reverse
course on these terrible policies that do not work for people.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Eve any sense. I know you're still in a primaries
very early on, but what kind of a Democrat do
you think the Florida Democrats are going to run against you?
Given how much this state has gotten more red under DeSantis' tenure.
Are they going to try the head fake moderate or
somebody you think that's going to be a little more
on the Yeah, I'm a Democrat. Let's turn Florida into
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California and see what happens. But what's your expectation or
do you just not even have any expectation because it's
too early to know.
Speaker 9 (39:42):
I don't really care. I mean to be honest with you,
Governor DeSantis. During his leadership, he's really put the Florida
Democrat Party on life support. They're in a bad shape
over there, and they know they're in bad shape over there.
I don't really care. We're focused on number one, seeing
the people of Florida. Number two make a sure or
at the policy ideas that we're going to bring to
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build on top of the great success of Ron DeSantis
and what's happened in Florida, that our state continues to flourish,
and that we prepare Florida for the next generation of growth.
That's what we're focused on. Whatever the Democrats, whoever they
choose to throw at us and still be it, well,
we'll take care of them too.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Can you also be one word, just can you just
make fun of the balls or just say something to
antagonize play on sports? Please for me, because I would
do it. But I don't know enough.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
No, I'm not going to do it. They actually look okay,
they look better than them, so I gotta be quiet.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
He's definitely or governor. Look at how look at how
diplomatic he is.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Clay, No, I was. I was beat me to it.
I was just gonna say, what's up with your seminoles.
I went and watched them beat Alabama, and then I
went and watched them get smoked by Miami, and y'all
have lost four games in a row. I remember a
couple of years ago, you came on and made the
case for why you belong in the playoff. I don't
even know that you belong in the top half of
the ACC right now.
Speaker 9 (41:00):
Oh my gosh, here we go. By the way, if
you want to go back two years ago, yeah, we
should have been in that playoff. I'm not going to
bring it up again, but that was two years ago.
Last year was a bad season. Started off great, last
fourth not been good. The only thing I would say
about the team is the games have been close. But
you know, coach Norvel, he's got a lot of pressure
on him. He's got to turn this thing around. That's
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just the way it is.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Really the UF is gonna do. By the way, you
got an open job at UF two. I'm sure you
saw this. The governor basically fired the governor of Louisiana
well after they got whipped by Texas A and M.
This is I don't know if Buck even saw this.
Jeff Landry, we need to get him back on. Jeff
Landry was like, this is ridiculous. Like Brian Kelly's out,
you know, I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Byron.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
He tried to show up. Brian Kelly did, and his
fingerprint didn't work to let let him in the building.
That's not a good side, all right. So the governor
just said, this is a mess Florida. I know you're
a Florida State fan, but the University of Florida's got
an opening and that's going to be a huge hire too.
But I saw the governor of louisianaway then I was like, Byron,
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he's a huge college football fan.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You got a bunch of big programs there.
Speaker 9 (42:06):
No, we do. I mean, look, there's a lot of
names that are out there. You have to notre dame coach.
He's been he's been very good. He's been pretty good,
very successful. I heard the rumors about Nick Saban. Is
he coming out of retirement. I'm not sure, you know,
I don't know if Nick likes the NIL. I think
that's probably a deal killer.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I think that's true.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
I don't think he likes it, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
What do you think about Lane Kiffin? How do you
think Lane? Yeah? How do you think Lane would do
at UF if he came?
Speaker 11 (42:32):
Well?
Speaker 9 (42:32):
Look, speaking as speaking as somebody who's who's trying to
run for governor, I think Lane would be a very
good choice for the Florida Gators speaking of the Florida
State seminole, No, they can do better than him.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Uh, Byron, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
What should people know who are out there listening all
over Florida as many people do, if they want to
support your campaign, where should they go?
Speaker 9 (42:54):
Just go to Byron Donalds dot com. I'm really excited
for everybody's support so far. But it's all about the
future of our state. We're going to take Florida to
a whole nother level.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Amen. I love to hear it. Honestly, you got two
guys that own property in Florida, one who lives your
year round. We got to just keep Florida. Awesome, Byron,
So I know that's your goal and that's what you're
going to do as well. So God bless it. Thanks
for making the time for us today.
Speaker 9 (43:18):
Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Look, I want to tell it, Buck, I've got some
picks coming tomorrow. I think I've already actually given out
the picks. Hold on, let me give you the picks.
We've been on fire. We've been doing really well with
price picks. And you just heard Byron Donald's there, Buck.
I think Byron Donald's gonna win. I think he's gonna
win Florida so comfortably. Remember it wasn't even very long ago.
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I do think it's worth mentioning. Remember twenty eighteen when
Ron DeSantis won Florida by fifty thousand votes. I think
it was How far away does that seem? If you
want to question how much a state can change in
the space of eight years. Basically, we're going to go
from Florida as the ultimate boss up state too. It's
not even remotely close anymore. And it's really pretty incredible
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to see how well that they have been able to
build this. I've got a bunch of quarterbacks to throw
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. I talked
about this in the first hour. I think I mentioned
in the second hour. Darnet Clay. It's the third hour
and I'm kicking off the segment and I want to
do this one, all right, So we're going to dive
into this one. This is a great moment on television
because it involves Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller, and
this Trump White House, fantastic architect of so many Trump
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particularly immigration policies. But Katie Miller, whos launched a podcast
and we should have her back on. We had her
on already talk about it, but we'll have her back
on if she wants to come hang out with us.
And Jake Tapper scurrying away from the conversation as quickly
as possible. This is about Karine Jean Pierre's abject disaster
of a book tour that she's going on because her
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thing is she's an independent.
Speaker 8 (46:26):
Now.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I'm going to try to like give a very quick
version of her argument, Clay, because no one knows what
it really is. She's an independent now. But the Democrat
Party betrayed Biden, but she didn't see anything wrong with Biden.
But maybe Biden was too old, but they didn't have
to keep him in the spot, but they weren't nice
to him. I mean, it's I know that that was confusing,
(46:49):
because she's very confused about that. And then also add
on Kamala wasn't the best candidate, but she wasn't surprised
by how it went for Kamala because she was a
black woman. And unless you're a black woman, you can't
even understand how difficult it is to be a black
woman in America today. Over and over again in response
(47:10):
to some of these questions too, and so Katie Miller
decided she had enough of this. She was with CNN's
Jake Tapper last night and I just want you to
listen to this. This is this is just saying it,
just letting it, letting it be said on the airplay eight.
Speaker 12 (47:25):
She is just another evidence that DEI doesn't work, whether
that's in the White House in your press secretary role,
or whether that's a you know, an air traffic controller,
an air pilot, whether that's your doctor. You know, you
don't you want to hire the best for the role,
not just based on skin color, Jake, why did she
get the job over John Kirby?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
She had the job long before John Kirkby.
Speaker 13 (47:44):
I will just say she used to be a commentator
on CNN. Then she was one on MSNBC, and she
was good at that. Like I mean, I'm without getting
into the job.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I thought she did as Press secretary.
Speaker 13 (47:55):
It didn't seem crazy to me because she was eloquence
as a commentator.
Speaker 12 (48:00):
Why she trained every four sentences to say she is
a black queer LGBTQ woman because that's how she's been
promoted her entire career.
Speaker 13 (48:06):
Anyway, Katie Miller and Karen Finney, thank you so much,
I just.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Cause that is exactly I mean, she's just saying the
thing that we all know, which is that this woman
built a career on being a black lesbian and that
is the primary thing that she says in every interview,
and that now she's independent. She says she's not even
a Democrat anymore. That has been her calling card in
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the media and in politics, and maybe she actually wasn't
the best person for the job. This is what Katie
Miller is saying. And it's funny to watch Jake Tapper like, Okay,
let's just let's get out of here.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Here's what I would say. And once you think about it,
you will not be able to not see it. I said,
I've said on the show before. I think for the
Democrat Party, your race and your sexuality, your identity is
sword and shield. But go back in time and pretend
that instead of saying as a black gay woman or
(49:07):
as a you know, trans Hispanic person, like they all
give that to you as a prelude. It is the
modern day royalty. Think about it, Buck, You know, back
in the day when they used to talk about the
divine right of kings. When the king decreed something, he
would begin his decree by saying, as the eighth royal
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Viscount of the Sheriff of Nottinga, we say viscount.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
I don't think we pronounced the y s, do we?
Speaker 9 (49:35):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I don't know. I've never actually heard anybody pronounce it.
I don't know, maybe all of the royalty. All of
the royalty is the precedence to the action as a
divine right of king, as your noble background. You use
your identity to justify your opinion. That's all that Democrats
do now. They start off their opinion as kree. Jean
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Pierre is just one of the worst versions of it
by saying as a black gay woman, I believe, why
do I care about.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Your race or your sex? This is reminding me just
you guys. If people one of the questions we get
a lot, we got up. We were in a whoa
wo and thank you all in woo Land Fort in Indiana,
and we were out there recently. But one of the
questions we get a lot is, you know, show prep.
And I always say show prep is all the time.
We're constantly sending our team and Clay and I are
texting each other ideas and thoughts and everything. And one
(50:24):
thing I said to you guys, I just thought, this
is amazing. So Josh Barrow is a journalist, uh and
and he's he's a Democrat, but he's like one of
these guys. He's a little bit in the who's the
guy who's very solid on the First Amendment wrong, a
lot of other things, but you know, I'm talking about Greenwald.
He's a little bit like a great llah actually call
(50:46):
balls and strikes on certain things. And in the world
that actually did Bill marshow with Josh Barrow one. So
he's he's a high iq reasonable guy. You can reason
with him, right, And he shared this and it's the
twenty twenty two Democrat Party. I'm not gonna read the
whole thing versus the Democrat Party platform. Sorry, the Democrat
Party platform in twenty twelve versus clay in twenty twenty four,
(51:09):
twenty twelve. Today, our economy is growing. Al Qaida is
weaker than any point since nine to eleven. A manufacturing
sector is growing. We need to come together continue what
we started, reclaim the basic bargain for the largest middle
class on Earth. YadA, YadA, YadA. You know, America is great.
We have principles like actually pretty You can argue with
whether that's what the Democrat Party really stood for that
(51:30):
or whatever, but at least you know they're going through
the Democrat Party twenty twenty four platform. The DNC wishes
to acknowledge that we gather together to state our values
on lands that have been stewarded through centuries by the
ancestors and descendants of tribal nations who have been here
since time in memorial. Like, we're not imagining that these
people have gone nuts. Okay, they have gone nuts. This
(51:53):
is a real thing, and they no longer can make
coherent arguments. They live in a fantasy land. I think
this is another big story, Bill Gates. Bill Gates is
kind of like, well, you know, actually, we don't think
the climate change is an existential threat anymore.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
You don't say, mister globalist, extraordinary or climate change is
gonna kill everybody, start eating bugs, doesn't matter if it
gives you man boobs.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
He is now saying climate change is not an existential threat.
Kind of like you and me and everybody listening right
now was right about this the whole time, Clay, these
people are insane.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, when you talked about the land acknowledgment, it reminded
me of the study that came out Mentions of men
in the twenty twelve versus twenty twenty four Democrat primary
Democrat platform fell by sixty three percent, fathers fell by
one hundred percent, and responsibility fell by eighty three percent. Meanwhile,
(52:53):
the references to LGBTQ wrights increased one thousand and forty
five four percent. So they have written out men, they
have written out fathers from the Democrat platform, and they
have ten times the reference to gay people and trans writes.
(53:13):
And so you're not making it up. I mean, the
difference in just twelve years between the actual platform of
Barack Obama twenty twelve and Kamala Harris twenty twenty four
is it's not even in the same ballparks. It's frankly
a completely different party. And also, we're in an era
now where you're allowed to say things without real fear
(53:35):
of cancellation, and you're just allowed to say things that
are manifestly and obviously true. And to bring it back
to the Korean Jean Pierre situation for a minute, here
is somebody who we are told is important because she
is black and LGBTQ and has the following job, and
that those were important qualifications for that job. You better
(54:00):
not say that in any way she was helped in
getting that job because she is black in lgbt Q.
That is an impossible proposition to square. That makes no sense.
This has been true by the way of all affirmative
action plans. This has been true of all these different
racial set asides and racial entitlement things in America that
(54:21):
we've all had to suffer through for decades, being lied
to and told you have to celebrate this, and you
can't talk about it at the same time, or this
is why we're doing it, and you're not allowed to
say it out loud. I know a guy at a
law firm almost lost his job because he said at
a diversity hiring event, well, it's great, we're getting so
much diversity going here. Someone didn't like the way he
(54:42):
said it, and he almost got fired from his job.
Now this is many years ago, but things like you
can't say I like diversity at the diversity hiring event, Clay,
if you're a white guy, people might think you said
it kind of funny. That was the America that we
were living in pre Trump. I think we still are
because it's the foundation of the Democrat Party and it's
sorting shield. To me, that's an easy way to distill
it because they're allowed to wield it as a sword
(55:05):
to attack you. She can say I'm black and gay
all the time, but as soon as you say any
reference to her being black and gay. The shield comes up,
and that is not able to be referenced by you,
and so you could both attack and defend based on it,
but you were not allowed to be attacked or in
any way referenced it by others.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
A perfect example of this is Supreme Court Justice Ktanji
Brown Jackson, who we were told by Joe Biden, I'm
definitely hiring. I mean, we've talked about this many times
on the show. Definitely hiring, not hiring, appointing a black
woman on the Supreme Court. So that cuts down. That's
ninety seven percent of people in America, or not ninety
(55:48):
seven it's maybe a little less than that, but.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
No, no, it's about ninety seven percent of lawyers. Because only
about three percent of lawyers ever we got women, thank you,
So it is not so ninety seven percent of people
are out of the pool of possible right away.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
That's scus in a pretty significant fashion. What you're going
to be looking at in terms of actual legal qualifications,
cognitive abilities, wisdom, career, all that stuff, right, And yet
they'll say, we have to give it to a person
with these qualifications. But you're not allowed to say that
those qualifications were necessary for the job. That is cognitive
(56:22):
dissonance that we do not have to live through or
should not have to live through anymore. Yeah, you're right.
The Democrats still are on this clay, but the culture
has shifted. You can say these things now. I mean,
listen to what Katie Miller said on CNN. I mean
she was just laying it out there. One more thing
while we have this. This is kind of like the
grab bag. I'm doing a whole bunch of things. The ones.
Where is the uh uh? It's not going so well
(56:44):
for Kamala Cut which one? Oh, here we go CNN's
Abby Phillip talking to the breakfast club with mister the
God and the rest of the crew. There here is
cut five. Listen to this one. What does she do
this summer?
Speaker 9 (56:57):
Run?
Speaker 14 (56:57):
Should she even run again? You know, I've been talking
to a lot of people about that, because, as you know,
this book was very controversial, and it was even more
controversial than you think in private. In private, I think
there's a lot of controversy around it because I think
that there are a lot of bridges that are burned here,
(57:18):
whether she wanted to or not. And I think it
will be very difficult for her to mend those fences
that she'll need in order to run if she just
decided to run again. I think this book read kind
of like somebody who was kind of done with it,
so I will be interested to see if she decides
(57:38):
to do it.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
Reads. As a comologist, I can tell you it does
read like someone who is bitter and possibly done with it, Clay,
even though you would think it would be rehabilitate the
image so that there can be around to run for
Kamala Harris in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, I think she's going to run because I did not.
Thankfully you have to read this book. But there is
nothing else for which she is going to spend time.
She just turned sixty. She is not a mom. I
know she's a stepmom. It's different than being a mom.
She's not a grandma. I don't think she particularly likes
her husband, Doug. I don't think she wants to kick
(58:19):
her feet up and just be a professor. You know,
a president of a university. Better way would you say there?
A Doug might give you a little chin music there, Clay.
You know, look, Doug's been known to slap around women.
I don't think he's been known to slap around men
very much, so I like my chances with Doug. Let
me tell you we'll come back and play a couple
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