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October 30, 2025 60 mins

Twelve out of Ten

President Donald Trump’s Asia trip, highlighting his high-stakes meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Trump rated the summit a “12 out of 10,” touting trade stability, tariff reductions, and agreements on rare earth minerals and agricultural exports like soybeans. The hosts analyze what these developments mean for the U.S.–China relationship, the economy, and the strategic ambiguity surrounding Taiwan. Buck offers insights from his recent visit to Taiwan, raising critical questions about how America might respond if China escalates tensions.

Trump-Like Numbers Needed

Deep Dive into election analysis and political strategy with guest Ryan Girdusky, host of It’s a Numbers Game. The discussion focuses on three major races: New York City mayoral election, New Jersey governor’s race, and Virginia statewide contests. Girdusky breaks down polling trends, turnout patterns, and demographic shifts shaping these contests. In New York City, Zohran Mamdani holds a strong lead, but Andrew Cuomo’s slim path to victory hinges on older voters and Republican turnout. The conversation explores whether far-left candidates have a ceiling in urban politics and what that means for future progressive ambitions.

In New Jersey, Jack Ciattarelli faces an uphill battle against Democrat Mikie Sherrill, with mail-in ballots favoring Democrats and thousands of unreturned Republican ballots looming large. Hispanic voters and Orthodox Jewish communities could be decisive, as Ciattarelli seeks Trump-like gains among nonwhite voters while maintaining strength in suburban areas. Over in Virginia, Republican Jason Miyares leads the attorney general race, while Abigail Spanberger appears poised to win the governor’s race. The hosts analyze how turnout in coal country and Northern Virginia could tip the balance, and why Winsome Sears’ performance in the lieutenant governor contest matters for GOP momentum.

Shutdown Realities

Updates on the government shutdown, highlighting CNN’s own polling that shows Democrats bearing the brunt of voter blame while Republicans see a boost in approval ratings. Clay and Buck argue this dynamic will force Democrats to seek an off-ramp after next week’s elections. Kamala Harris’s rocky book tour in Australia, where ABC journalist Sarah Ferguson grills her on Biden’s frailties and debate performance. The hosts critique Harris’s evasive answers and reliance on scripted talking points, predicting these vulnerabilities will haunt her in a primary battle against Newsom.

IN Lt. Gov Micah Beckwith

An in-depth interview with Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith, who details the state’s urgent push for redistricting to counter Democratic gerrymandering in states like Illinois and California. Beckwith explains the stakes: adding two congressional seats for Republicans, combating complacency in deep-red Indiana, and meeting tight deadlines before candidate filing in January. The discussion underscores how redistricting battles could reshape the 2025 political map.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are rolling in the Thursday edition of the program.
I am in Chicago looking out over a beautiful vista
here from the thirtieth floor of the iHeart Building. I'm
also gazing upon the hip. I gotta be honest with you.
Buck has gotten the hippest haircut in the history of

(00:26):
the show. May he may be announcing that he has
joined a boy band in his spare time, and we'll
be on tour soon. I'm expecting him to have a
big gold chain also on here. I Buck with you
were concerned that your hair was not fitting into the shots,

(00:48):
so you have gone. My boys, my sons would describe
this as a low taper fade of sorts like this
is a very popular haircut. I am describing it as
the old man on here, and I mean again, Buck,
you look like you're twenty four years old.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Now we're gonna have a new audience.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I went into my neighborhood. Join here my barber shop
with my Cubans, my Cuban Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Everyone there.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Everyone's speaking only Spanish except for me. I speak no Spanish,
no a blast Spaniel. These guys have tattoos all over
their forearms. By the way, they look like all these
soccer players that you see now that all have the
sleeve tattoos. They got all the tattoos, they have all
the cool haircuts. And I just said, you know what, man,
just do what you think.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Will look cool. And here I am.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So if you are listening on the radio, millions of
you on the radio listening side, you should subscribe to
our YouTube channel so YouTube can enjoy Clay's commentary slash
gentle mockery of my very contemporary haircut that I got.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
But you know it is a very good look. I mean,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
When they put this up on the YouTube, which I'm
told is popular with the kids, our subscriber number going
to skyrocket, and you're gonna have cachet and trust that
you have never had before because people are gonna say,
guy got that haircut.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
He can't be wrong on anything, so pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
They said in Spanish, let's make this guy look like
he doesn't live in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I think that's what they said.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And they said something on Michael Pakekeaton n Espanol, and
I was like, okay, you guys, just do your thing,
and here we are.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Now I am mouy colliente. Oh, I can even translate that.
It's funny you were starting off with the Spanish. My
wife was getting ready for bed last night and she
heard the description that we had on the show of
me talking about walking naked in front of the in
front of the windows down in the new house. And

(02:45):
she is working to learn Spanish, and so she's taken
Spanish for a long time, but she's been trying to
get better at Spanish, and so she spoke as if
she were one of the Hispanic construction workers displeased. I
have no idea what she was saying about the fact
that they had been exposed to my naked body. Because

(03:05):
we don't have window treatments, which you and I were
talking about off air as we get ready to roll here,
maybe the most expensive thing on the planet that before
I was married, I had no idea would end up
costing me what it does. Windows are the wet weddings
and windows are maybe the two biggest unnecessary expenses that

(03:27):
I've ever heard of in my life.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I had no idea what it cost.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Carrie got multiple estimates for window treatments for our home here,
and it was a hard I was hard no, hard No,
it's a pass. I've heard enough.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's a no.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
The money they wanted for like very basic stuff, and
I was all different. So that is what it costs
apparently down here. But I just said, just have nothing.
It's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, I think for one thousand dollars you should
be able to have the greatest window covering of all time.
And evidently that's an absurdly ridiculous idea. Makes me want
to start my own cheap window treatments because it seems
like it makes sense. But we will talk about a
lot of these different things. Ryan Gardusky's going to join
us at one. We've got more pulling coming out on

(04:09):
New Jersey, on Virginia, and on New York City. What
do we think as we sit? What is it five
days before official election? Next Tuesday? We're going to talk
with the Lieutenant governor of Indiana. He is instrumental in
a battle that is now being fought in Indiana to
potentially redistrict there as many different states continue to make decisions.

(04:30):
Buck I was reading this morning on my travel I
got up early to fly to Chicago. Wall Street Journal
had a great trans is a social contagion opinion article
that I thought was very interesting. Riley Gaines, our friend
just continues to get ripped by people on the left,
and we're going to talk a little bit about that.

(04:51):
I got my rankings of Halloween candies for you, Buck.
As is Halloween Eve. It is all hallows, all hallows Eve,
I guess. And Kamala has been on a book tour
and she's getting raked over the coles by media in
Australia that's actually pressing her and asking her questions.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I will just say I think Kamala got jealous of
all the attention Karine Jean Pierre was getting, and so
she decided, maybe I can do even worse than Karine
Jean Pierre for a day or two and everyone will
just start focusing on me. I'm not sure that's the
move I would make, but that's the move she's made.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It will not surprise you, but Gavin Newsome, the most
blatant liar in all of politics, is lying about Charlie
Kirk and about Joe Biden. Jd Vance weight in on
UFO's buck. I don't know if you have seen this.
He is on Team Clay as someone who does not
hate all nice things and so we could have a
stake bet on this one, because you'd be so total.

(05:51):
It might have to be for the rest of our lives,
because who knows when we're actually going to know for
sure that I'm right and there are UFOs. But we
begin with President Trump, who is currently in the air
en route to America back from Asia after having met
with China in the late hours here uh in the evening,
as he is flying from the future twelve hours in

(06:13):
front of us back to the United States, and he's
already weighed in on what the discussions were like with China, and,
not surprisingly in typical Trump fashion, on a scale of
one to ten, how did he think the meeting went.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Listen, overall, I guess on this scale, I'm from zero
to ten, with ten being the best.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I would say the meeting was at twelve, because I
think it was twelve.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I think very importantly, you know.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Just the whole relationship is very very important.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think it was very good, especially coming on the
heels of the successful trip or in Malaysia. You signed
a peace deal for Cambodia and Thailand, critical mineral deals
with all our allies.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
So many successful, so many beings payed for our country
with time. Literally hundreds of billions trillions of dollars have
come into a country over the last four days represented
by this meeting, but trillions of dollars where Toyota's gonna
build plans ten billion dollars with the plans, you know,
I could go over so many different companies coming in

(07:18):
that pouring money into the United States.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
So, uh, this is a positive sign.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
There's reports that Trump is lowered at least somewhat the
overall tariffs on China, that there is a pledge from
China to help to restrict overall fentanyl access to the
United States, since China is producing much of the raw
material that is later used to turn into this drug
that comes into the United States and kills so many

(07:45):
different people overall, I would say buck. As the stock
market has proven since April, it's up about two thousand
points in the S and P five hundred. There seems
to be a form of trade stability that is coming.
And I actually want to get your take because you
just came from Taiwan. I haven't seen any discussion about Taiwan,

(08:07):
but based on mutual respect and a relationship in play,
it feels like basically China US relations are going to
be pretty calm over the next few years, at least
while Trump's in office.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You buy it. What's your take on this?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
If the Chinese live up to their side of this,
which they have not in the past. To be clear,
they have made promises, including to President Trump in his
first term. That and then COVID happened, and when Biden
came into office things got derailed, but they did not
follow through on those initial trade agreements. So I think

(08:46):
that Trump very much wants to set this framework up
and that's important. That stability is a very good thing.
For example, soybeans now are going to get purchased again
by our soybean from our soybean farmers, by the Chinese.
For those of you who are familiar with Chinese cuisine,
it will not surprise you to know that China is

(09:06):
by far the biggest purchaser of US soybeans. I think
it's like sixty or seventy percent of the entire crop,
and they had been buying it from Brazil now for
a lot of US. You might say, why does that
matter so much, Well, it's billions of dollars of agricultural
products that are farmers were expecting, you know, to be
able to export, and that's been really a big pressure

(09:27):
point on them in the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So that's being addressed.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
The rare earth minerals issue also critical, and now China
has said, fine, fine, we'll give you the rare earth
that you need. Really just think of it as the
special metals and things that you need for tech, for
high tech stuff, whether it's things that involve the things
that evolve drones, robotics, microchip so all this are the

(09:51):
things your smartphone, your laptop. China says they're going to
get more of that or they're going to continue to
provide that on the on the market. They're not going
to cut us. This was a big leverage point for them.
I still think the US should be doing a lot
of its own rare earth mining now. As for the
stability part of this, because that's obviously huge. If China
continues on this pathway of not just agreeing with Trump

(10:15):
and through these negotiations to do certain things, but actually
does them, I think that is going to be really
good for the US economy and it's also good for
relations in the region.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Obviously.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I was in Taiwan, i interviewed the President of Taiwan
and had a whole range of national security meetings. The
more China it is enmeshed in a positive way with
the US economically, I think the better. The likelihood is
that there's not going to be the flash point Taiwan

(10:48):
situation of the invasion, but that can change in a hurry.
And there still is a real difficult right now relationships
specifically between the mainline than Taiwan. They've really cut off trade.
What do you think that we need to get that
going again?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I know we're going to break here in a minute, so,
but big question, what do you think the US would
do if China actually invaded Taiwan? Because we have a
strategic ambiguity perspective For people who don't know, what do
you think having just been there is a very good question, uh,
And the answer is President Trump. It's up to President Trump, right.

(11:26):
That's really what it comes down to is what has
China done? What are our options?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
We do not have.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
We have a policy of strategic ambiguity. Our stated policy
on this matter is we're not sure what we'll do.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
We're not going to tell you.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Pete Hegseat, the Secretary of Defense, has made some pretty
strong statements in support of Taiwan really just supported the
status quo. And you know, no one's saying that Taiwan
should try to go independent. They just want the perpetuation
of the current realities, which is a self gone governing Taiwan,

(12:01):
but not addressing the One China policy specifically.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
And it's weird.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I know, it sounds like, what does that even mean?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, that's where things are, that is that is what
it is.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And you know, our my friend Steve Yates, who was
really our shirpa, our guide on the ground in Taiwan,
he's actually traveling with Secretary of Defense Hegseth right now.
He's part of the press pool and is covering all
these events. So he's been in contact with me about
you know, he's been at the she Trump negotiations and
he will be uh when he comes back from his
East Asia leg, which will be next week. I think

(12:36):
he'll call in and tell us, you know, what he
saw firsthand. And because there's really interesting things going on
in Japan right now, really important things happening in South Korea.
Trump said that we're going to start testing nukes again.
I mean, there's a whole bunch of pieces from this
Asia trip that matter to all of us.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And he wants to go back and visit China, and
he wants to go see Kim Jong un in North Korea.
So I think he's going to be back in Asia
in the spring based on his plans. And yeah, if
you want the elementary school version of what our relationship
is with Taiwan, remember the old school, and you would

(13:12):
pass the little note to a girl and you would
give her like, hey, do you want to be my girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (13:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
And then there was oftentimes the maybe box down to bottom.
We're in the maybe box with Taiwan. Nobody knows what's
actually gonna happen, and it is strategically the goal. So
we'll break down this Trump coming back from China. Lots
of different things are Buddy Ryan Gardusky gonna be with us,
as well as Micah Beck with the Indiana Lieutenant governor.
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host of It's a Numbers Game. Like Clay and Forever,
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(15:48):
is banned from CNN. Quite honestly, I feel a little
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is fantastic. Highly recommend you go check it out in
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(16:10):
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says and tell all of your annoying lib friends. All right, Ryan,
with all that, and we appreciate you making the time
for us, let's dive and we got three important races here.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We'll make it to a dealer's choice. Which one do
you want to dive into?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
First?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
We've got New Jersey, Virginia, New York City mayor's race.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
What do you think?

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Let's talk about New York City first. It's the top
of my sheet of my cheat sheet of numbers for
you guys. So, New York City the mayor's election obviously
on Tuesday, with a three way race between Cuomo, Zaramandani
and kurz Leiwa. The polling has been fairly consistent, right
It shows Mandani with an average up fifteen point lead overall,

(16:57):
depending on which poll you look at, but it's about
fifteen point lead early on. There was an art by
the Gothamist giving some glimmer of hope to Cuomo and
his supporters, is that the electorate so far in this election,
in the early votes, has been very, very old there
are more people between the ages of seventy to seventy
five voting than people between the age of eighteen to

(17:18):
twenty four. That was not happening in the Democratic primary
when Mandanni won. The electorate has been progressively becoming younger
as the days.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Have gone on.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
Though when the voting began, voters under forty were just
twenty eight percent of people showing up in the early vote.
Now they're up to thirty five percent. And what's giving
some anxiety to Cuomo supporters is this Sunday is the
New York City Marathon, which runs through the quote unquote
Kami Corridor of the big socialist blocks of New York
City where people votes and make good weather people might

(17:50):
go and vote right afterwards. The electric has been slightly older,
slightly blacker. Some of the outer boroughs have been showing
up in bigger numbers. Aside from Brooklyn and Manhattan, Staten
Island and Queens are sailing up to big numbers. The Bronx,
which is Cuomo's best county, is having horrific turnout, though
they're not showing up, you know, in the numbers that
they need to for Cuomo. So that's certainly going to

(18:12):
give his supporters a lot of anxiety. What Cuomo really
needs right now are two very big things. Republicans to
start showing up. Republicans are only five percent of all
registered Republicans in New York City have shown up to
go vote so far in the early election. That's compared
to eight percent of all Democrats. Just three percent of

(18:33):
registered Independents have shown up. But this electorate is much
more democratic right now than the twenty twenty four election,
when Trump got surge in New York City did much
better than people expected him to. So he's going to
need a lot more Republicans to show up and then
to break against against Curtis in a big way. They
need Curtis to underperform and for Republicans to show up,

(18:55):
and really for seniors in the far parts of the
Atta Borrow, Southern Bronx, Western Queens north than Northern Bronx
and southern Brooklyn to really pick up momentum as this
goes on, this is going to be a gigantic turnout election,
probably the biggest elections to the nineteen ninety three mayor
election when Ruby Giuliani won against Mayor Dinkins. He was sorry, Yeah,

(19:19):
Men's Mayor Dickens. He was it was a one point
four million person turnout. This could cut closer to two million,
is what I'm hearing from people analyzing on the ground.
A lot more people are showing up. We are at
thirty three percent of the twenty twenty one numbers with
in just five days of early voting, so immense turnout
of New York City Republicans just really got to start

(19:41):
picking up. And they got a break for Cuomo for
him to have a chance, and more seniors have to
show up. But seniors have been showing up, but they
have to show up more. So that's the New York
City thing right now. It still looks like a mundane victory.
There is a small path for Cuomo. He just has
to really get on the ground to get these older
voters out to support him.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
We had Curtis Leewan, yeah yesterday, Ryan, And if Curtis
lee wad dropped out, let me just ask it to
you this way, what do you think the chances are
we wake up Wednesday and a majority of New York
City voters will have actually voted against Mom Donnie. But
that is split among Cuomo and Sliwood. Do you think
that's likely. Do you think that Mam Donnie will get

(20:19):
an overall majority or do you think more people will
vote against Mom Donnie? But in a three way he's
going to end up as the likely winner that direction.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
So in all the polls, Mandani has only gotten a
majority in one poll out of all the poles, saying
in New York City, no one really expects him to
get a majority. Now things could change, especially with it's
going to be a real question of is there a
ceiling for these socialist candidates? Are they so toxic that
they can't get passed? In New York City's case, or

(20:48):
Mandani seven eight nine hundred thousand votes, if he gets
over a million votes, it really shows the ceiling isn't there.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
And this is the.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
Conversation that Democrats used to have about Trump, but that
he can't get more than four seven percent until he
got close to fifty. If there is a ceiling for Mandanni,
if they say his policies are too unpopular or he
is too unlikable, and certainly his favorable ratings have dropped
in all the pollie I've seen, and that shows that uh,
that that hurts people like AOC who wants to run

(21:18):
in the future. That hurts the far left who want
to run nationwide in the future for the presidency to say, hey, listen,
there's a cap on. How many people really are willing
to sit there and go to the far left?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Speaking of Ryan Gardusky, It's a numbers game is his
podcast on the Clay Endbuck Network. Go check that one out.
Go make sure you have the iHeart app and you're
checking out what's in the feed. Ryan, talk to me
about Chitdarelli in New Jersey. I'm seeing some things that
make me feel kind of warm and fuzzy about it.
But I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I'm sure
you're here to set me straight. What's really going on.

(21:50):
Is this the best chance for a Republican shock win?

Speaker 8 (21:55):
Yes, this is one hundred percent, aside from Jason mer
is the best chance for a Republican So here's here's
the Here's the thing that get the good thing going
for Chitdarelly is that there's a lot more registered Republicans
than there ever have been for Chittarelly in the last
time that he ran, Like I think eighty thousand more
Republicans than that were the last time that he ran,

(22:15):
and a lot of fewer Democrats. People have switched registrations,
and people have just stopped voting, or they've passed away,
or they just you know, didn't They're no longer keep
up the registration, becoming independent. Here's the bathing for Chittarelly.
In twenty twenty four, at this point, Republicans had a
lead for Trump in the presidential election in in person voting.

(22:36):
Right there were more Republicans showing up to vote in
person in the early voting than Democrats. Even in a
state like New Jersey has such a big Democratic lead,
that is not the case for Chittarelli. Right now, Democrats
have a seventy three hundred person lead in the early vote.
Now that's not a ton, that's not imaginable to sit
there and break, because in twenty twenty one, Chittarelli won

(22:57):
election day votes by over two by about two hundred
thousand votes. What gives me anxiety is that the mail
in votely for Democrats is substantially large. Two hundred and
twenty one thousand more Democrats have submitted a mail in
ballad than Republicans. But the craziest thing is for this
bak seventy two thousand Republicans in New Jersey have received

(23:19):
a mail in ballid and have not returned it. There
are seventy two thousand votes for Jacktionenarelli on people's kitchen
tables and they haven't returned those ballots yet. That's a
lot of catching up to do to chase those ballots
and make sure they were returned. Now once again, he's
going to win election day. He may win it by
a lot. There are two different questions when it comes

(23:40):
to how are these voters sitting there and breaking Jack
genarily has a support of all the Orthodox Jewish communities
in New Jersey, which is substantial, especially like in Ocean
County where's Lakewood in it. That's bringing a lot of votes.
Many of them are registered Democrats. There's also the question
of what is going on with these non white voters
who have been Democrats their whole life and broke for Trump.

(24:01):
Remember in twenty twenty, in the twenty twenty election, Trump
won just twenty six percent of Hispanic majority place of
precincts in New Jersey. In twenty twenty four, Trump won
thirty nine percent a thirteen point bound in New Jersey,
and Hispanic majority precincts. How are they going to vote
because they voted just they voted for Jack Chitarelli at

(24:23):
the same rate they voted for Trump in twenty twenty one.
So Trump received twenty six percent, Shitdarelly received twenty six percent.
If Shouldarelly gets thirty nine percent or anywhere close among
these Hispanic people who have mostly caied registered Democrat, that
could be a big, big difference. The New York Times
is questioning where are these non white voters who broke
substantially in Trump's favor. Trump got forty three percent of

(24:45):
all non white voters in New Jersey, up from sorry
he lost them by twenty seven points. He lost by
forty three points. Previously, there was a sixteen point bump
in non white communities in New Jersey in from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty four. Chittarelly needs to see a
similar bump. Because Chitdarelly does better than Trump in the
white suburbs. He needs to get Trump like numbers among

(25:07):
the Hispanic areas. Overall, in New Jersey, there have been
four hundred and ninety thousand Democrats who have voted and
two hundred and sixty one thousand Republicans and one hundred
and sixty five thousand Indies. Breaking down percentage wise, fifty
three percent of the electric so far has been Democrat,
twenty nine percent of been Republican, and eighteen percent of independent.

(25:28):
Jack Chiarelli needs these Republicans to show up. He's probably
going to need about a quarter of a million to
three hundred thousand on election day to show up advantage
towards him in order to sit there and win this.
And he's going to need some of these Hispanics, especially
Hispanics in northern New Jersey who voted for Trump, to
sit there and vote with him.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So we think that he could win in New Jersey,
challenging path. What about Virginia. It seems to me like
Jason Miar is based on the polling that I'm seeing,
the attorney general candidate that we've had on this program,
the Republican running against Jones is in very good position.
Seems like Abigail Spanberger is in a solid position on

(26:07):
the flip side going up against the win some seers,
is that an accurate read? What would you say about
the data right now in Virginia?

Speaker 8 (26:17):
Right So, Virginia is one of these states that doesn't
registered voters by party, which makes it very hard to
kind of like parse through the information. In the last
twenty days, there have been thirteen poles in New Jersey,
it's our in Virginia. Rather, in the thirteen poles, Miars
has led in ten of them, It's been tied in two,
and Jones has led in just one. Overall, the average

(26:37):
has Mirs with a four point polling advantage. Spamberger has
somewhere around eight or nine point voting advantage. But the
interesting thing, and the interesting question is is the lieutenant
governor's race, which isn't really receiving much a spotlight. The
Republican read of the same as genre who's running. He's
only down about four points in the polls if the

(27:00):
generic ballot, because no one knows, they're just basically voting
for who they like by party. If the generic ballad
shows a lieutenant governor's race is within four points, then
really spam Burger shows that she's either a very popular
or Winston Sears is very unpopular and people are voting
one direction for governor and changing their vote down ballot.
That may be the case. What Winston Sears has to

(27:21):
do is not necessarily win, but make sure the gap
doesn't get to double digits, because if the gap gets
a double digits, if she's leading by ten, sorry, if
Winters is losing by ten, eleven, twelve points, getting the
RAS over the finish line becomes very, very difficult. We're
seeing this. We're seeing when we look at the counties
of who is showing up, where deep Republican counties are

(27:42):
having some of the best turnout and some of the worst.
And it's it's really the area around Richmond, Virginia that
is having gang bus turnout, which is very heavily Democrat,
very college educated. What Southwest Virginia, which loves Donald Trump
voted eighty percent for Donald Trump. What they need to
do is start showing up because they are being lagging
indicator in this entire election. Fairfax doesn't have great turnouts

(28:03):
so far, neither does Virginia Beach, which is a swing
part of Virginia. But if they want to counter Richmond,
they start need to start seeing Southwest Virginia, Coal Country
Virginia really bring up good numbers, and so far it's
been definitely on the lower end of turnout.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So you think New Jersey just to recap here is
Mom Donnie basically a shoe in? Is it pretty pretty
realistic for New Jersey to be good? To go realistic?
Is I guess the best way they had to go red?
And then your span Burger is probably going to pull
this out, like how would you just if you're forced
to Burger?

Speaker 8 (28:38):
Is Spanburger's got probably a ninety percent chance of winning,
ninety five percent chance of winning uh over in over
in New York, I would say Mandani is probably around
eighty five percent or eighty percent chances. There's a small
window for Cuomo actually, probably ninety percent chance Mondanie's going
to sit there and win. Cuomo has a path and
he's had some good things break in his favor. He

(29:00):
just needs that to continue over all early voting, and
we need to see if there is a ceiling for
socialist candidates in New York City. Over in Virginia A Miarez,
I would say probably is a fifty five percent chance lead.
A lot of it's going to depend on if Winston
Sears keeps her loss margin tight and if Republicans that
there in pickup down ballad and over in New Jersey,

(29:20):
I would give Chitdarelly on a about a forty percent
chance of winning. Chittarelli has a lot of things looking
good in his direction. He just needs them all to break.
And the narrative right now across the country is this,
I don't know if Republicans are waiting for election day,
but they have not shown up in the numbers. They
need to in these early votes to not give Democrats
a giant lead. I know Republicans are nervous or voting early,

(29:43):
but on election day over in over in New Jersey,
Mickey Cheryl is going to start off the day with
a quarter of a million more banked vote. And that's
vote that Chitarelly needs to show up and needs to
break in his favor on election day.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Ryan, you're podcast up on YouTube. We also can you
can find Ryan if you want more detail on the
numbers game inside of the Clay and Buck podcast network.
And occasionally he makes great beeper jokes that make people
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Speaker 1 (30:12):
Ryan, we appreciate you, my man.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
I appreciate you both. Thank you.

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(32:48):
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he now?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Six months? Baby speed is six months?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
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So baby boy there for those of you who are
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smile put on your face. One day in advance of Halloween,
we got a bunch of different stuff to dive into.
We've been discussing Trump on it right now in the
air on his way back from his meeting with Chinese
President z and we have been discussing that impact we

(33:41):
played at the end of the last hour, Harry Inton
pointing out as we have discussed that the overall support
for climate change insanity, even in the Democrat Party, has
begun to collapse, and that was reinforced this week as
Bill Gates suddenly decided to come out and say, hey,
actually we're not all going to die of climate change.

(34:02):
So that religion on the left is falling apart. And
this is the data on the shutdown that also was
on CNN. So if you're out there and you're saying, okay, well,
Clay and Buck are saying that this is politically not
going well for Democrats. But what are they saying on
CNN and MSNBC, Well, they're now telling their viewers, hey,

(34:25):
this shutdown is being placed. The blame is on Democrats.
This is what Harry Inton said, based on the polling
on CNN.

Speaker 10 (34:33):
You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge
of both the House and the Senate, that a government
shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand, but in.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Fact it hasn't.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a
look here the shift in net popularity versus prese shutdown
among the g When we're looking at the Republican Party overall,
that brand.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Actually up two points.

Speaker 10 (34:51):
That's within the margin verrap, but clearly it hasn't dropped.
Come over this side of the screen, look at the
net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress, it's actually up
five point.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Since pre shutdown.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's rallying the base for sure.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
Look at this, the net approval rating up twelve points
versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base,
it's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at
this among independents, it's up eight points as well. So
we've got a situation here where Republicans with this shutdown
are actually rallying their base, but it's also something that's
not hurting them with the folks in the mill.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay, so that is what they heard on CNN. That's
what I wanted to play for you, and that's why
Buck and I both believe that soon after the election
next week, Democrats are going to try to find an
off ramp to end this government shutdown. Okay, let me
play a couple of cuts here that I thought were
interesting because we can talk about Kamala and Newsom a bit.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Buck. Gavin Newsom I think.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Is a liar on a level that we may not
have ever seen before when it comes to just saying
the exact opposite of what he has said before. Do
you remember when he he started his podcast The first
guest I believe he had was Charlie Kirk, and he
told Charlie, hey, my son is a big fan of yours,

(36:09):
and this is one reason why I wanted to have
you on the idea that I want to talk to
people of divergent backgrounds.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
That was what he said. If you don't remember, you
can hear him say it yourself.

Speaker 11 (36:21):
Last night, trying to put my son to bed, He's like, no, Dad,
I just what time? What time is Charlie gonna be here?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
What time?

Speaker 11 (36:27):
And I'm like, dude, you're in school to my I's thirteen.
He's like, no, no, this morning wakes up and sticks
up and he's like I'm coming.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I'm like he literally would not leave the house.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Did you let him to take off school? No?

Speaker 6 (36:38):
He did, of course not.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
He's not here for a good reason. But the point
is the council school for like two years.

Speaker 11 (36:42):
Once on the point is the point, which is you
are making a damn dead.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
As I'm kidding, okay, And he said, my son's a
fan all right now?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Just I think yesterday Gavin.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Newsom, continuing the media rounds, oh, my son's not actually
a fan.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Of Charlie Kirk, I ever said that. Listen, your son
obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
What was the conversation like between you and your son
after Charlie Kirk was assassinate.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
He called me.

Speaker 11 (37:10):
I don't know how he got a phone, but he
called me from school that day, really alarmed, and all
his friends were around the phone that wanted me to
about express or understand what was going on.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
He wanted to know if he was dead.

Speaker 11 (37:20):
He wasn't a fan of him as much as it
was familiar with him.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I mean, he said, come on, it's just so petty
and slimy. Clearly, Gavin Newsom is a guy who says
one thing to one person and another thing to another,
depending on the needs of the moment. But you know,
Charlie was assassinated. He's gone, He's left behind his widows kids.
Your son obviously is a fan. Why do that? Why

(37:48):
be so petty, so lacking in honor and integrity. Well,
because you're Gavin Neuwsom and that's who you are.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I think that's just a perfect example that we just
played of what his presidential campaign is going to be.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Like he's just gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
About things that you know he does he said the
opposite of just a few months ago. It's not hard
to find. This is one reason I do believe that
trust in legacy media has collapsed, because a lot of you,
in the back of your mind you'd be like, I
don't think they've been consistent on that. And then on
social media you have people who are skilled and will

(38:27):
go grab and put those side by side. I would
encourage our team if we can put those two clips
side by side and share that from Clay and Buck.
Look if Gavin Newsom was continuing to say that his
son was a fan of Charlie Kirk, I would you know, say, okay,
I mean his kids can have different political opinions than him.

(38:49):
But to just transparently say the opposite of what you
said in the past, I just it's it's just evidence
of what's coming. Prepare yourselves. By the way, this just
happened on CNN. Sorry on ESPN. It's not a lot
of difference. Honestly, ESPN is often.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
CNN might be a little more right wing than ESPN.
Actually that actually may well be true.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
They just had this racist more on Ryan Clark, who
ESPN should fire if they had a sense of just
an iota of intelligence. He's on talking about LSU. They
fired their coach, but he takes a shot at the
governor of ls of Louisiana over this LSU job and

(39:33):
said it's the second dumbest thing he said this week.
The other was that the governor of Louisiana said, Hey,
we should think about maybe putting a statue up of
Charlie Kirk. Listen to what you would have just heard
if you were watching CNN. I'm sorry that is funny,
though CNN more is fairer than ESPN. If you're watching ESPN,

(39:54):
you're just like, hey, I want to see what's going
to happen in tonight's game between the Ravens and the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
This is what you might have heard.

Speaker 12 (40:00):
It's the second most ridiculous thing he said this week.
The first was standing on campus is saying he wanted
to put a statue up with somebody that doesn't represent
the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players and the
students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that worked there.
That was the first dumb thing he said this week.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
This is the second.

Speaker 12 (40:19):
Dumbest, right amongst a lot of dumb things that he says.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Okay, so just teeing off on the governor of Louisiana
on a random sports show over the governor saying, hey,
maybe we should put a statue up of Charlie Kirk, which,
by the way, the vast majority of Louisiana natives they
do agree with Charlie Kirk. They voted for Trump by
twenty two points sixty two I think to about thirty

(40:47):
eight something like that. So twenty four twenty three, twenty
two points, pretty significant win for Trump and Louisiana. But
that's the kind of conversation that you see when you're
not tuning in for it, and I just they gotta
fire that guy. I mean, he is he is epically
dumb and racist. That's a bad combo.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
It does seem like there's no IQ requirement for sports commentary.
I'll just say some of the things that I hear
from the sports commentariat present company, of course greatly excluded.
I'm amazed that they're paid to say anything on television
about anyone, especially when they veer off into anything politically related.
But yeah, not nice, not nice what he said, did

(41:28):
not like it, not a nice thing, all right.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I've also got for you buck your girl, Kamala. I
guess she's technically my girl because I think she's gonna run.
She is an Australian now I believe is that is
that accurate? She's doing her hoping to sell a lot
of books in Melbourne. Yeah, she is Melbourne as they
pronounced it. I was told, there you go, look at
me knowing how to pronounce a word.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
We've got let's see.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I want to make sure that I get this person
right because she really kind of got a push here.
This is the Australian Broadcast as Corporations Sarah Ferguson. Listen
to how much she goes after Kamala here buck for ducking.
Questions about Biden's decline cut for you.

Speaker 13 (42:12):
Combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what was that
play in terms of massive amounts of misinteristin for me?
Now forgive me, and I wanted a calendar in terms
of yes, the clerk, I want to interrupt you because
that is a world class pivot.

Speaker 14 (42:30):
But it is not the question that I asked you,
which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own
frailties and what that did to you. The question is
about Joe Biden. Are you still reluctant to criticize the
former president in what regard?

Speaker 13 (42:44):
Please?

Speaker 14 (42:45):
Well, just in terms of that question, so you exactly.

Speaker 13 (42:48):
Would you like to ask be more specific if you
don't mind, Was.

Speaker 14 (42:52):
It Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own
frailties in that position, to put you in the position
that made it almost impossible to win that race?

Speaker 13 (43:01):
He was not frail as president of the United States.

Speaker 14 (43:04):
But he had frailties. We all saw the debate.

Speaker 13 (43:08):
I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to
be President of the United States, and I have never
doubted that he had the capacity to be president of
the United States. If you want to talk about whether
he had the ability to endure what a race or
president of the United States would require in that political

(43:29):
environment in twenty twenty four, As I've said in the book,
I had concern.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Okay, did she pushes again here? Book?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
This is I don't know anything about Sarah Ferguson, but
I kind of like when people get called out like
this cut five.

Speaker 14 (43:45):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question. No, we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his head.

Speaker 13 (43:53):
I've answered that question.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
I do not believe that.

Speaker 14 (43:57):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how they could would not be a problem long term
with someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying
his acuity wasn't present.

Speaker 13 (44:06):
At in the book, and I also mentioned the context
in which that debate occurred. And you'll probably remember how
I talked about that in terms of what his travel
schedule had been, that what he had been enduring in
terms of the timing of that debate. I can talk
about it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away
from that. So I wrote it in the book because

(44:26):
I do know it's a question people had.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Can I just say, it's very clear that she's been
coached to say it's in the book, which she did
not write, mind you, as a dodge whenever someone tries
to it's in the book. I wrote about it in
the book. Okay, the interviewers asking you a question. I
read the book, which is a garbage book and clearly

(44:49):
written by committee of ghostwriters. Clay, she's being asked a
very straightforward question, and this is what I've said all along,
for which she has no good answer. Yeah, how is
it that you, on the one hand, say you were
put in an impossible situation to win this last election,

(45:11):
but you think Joe Biden was okay to be president
because you didn't notice any of the dementia stuff. But
you understand that there were concerns about him being in
a presidential campaign. And yet it doesn't make any sense.
Now you put these things together, you go, oh, hold
on a minute, So it's his fault, but it's not

(45:32):
his fault. But he could have been president, but he
shouldn't have been president. But Clay, this is the same
thing with Green Jean Pierre. They are caught in an
unwinnable position because they were all lying.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yes, and we all know and the king liar.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Let me bring it back because I think you're gonna
see Gavin Newsom versus Kamala Harris. Gavin Newsom said Joe Biden.
This is what he also said, in addition to getting
caught in wise about Charlie kirk Buck. He said, Joe
Biden is one of the most successful presidents in the
last century. Cut seventeen.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
It's a revolution that's going on in this country, and
I think you have to start using those words. He's
attacking every single institution of independent thinking, and he's succeeding
because we're still playing by the old set of rules.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
And so my.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
Party needs to focus first and foremost on recognizing that,
and then we'll reconcile be more culturally normal, more reform oriented,
talk about service and patriotism, and will continue to build
on the legacy. I would argue of our former president,
who I think was one of the most successful presidents
in the last century, and that is Joe Biden, and

(46:47):
I will defend that to my grave.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Okay, it's very clear what he's doing here. He is
just grabbing the mantle of I'm your nominee. Guys, just
to be clear, I'm the Yeah, Biden was right. You
all voted for Biden. Every Democrat Clay voted for Biden.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Right, Yes, So he's just saying, and a lot of
to make of it might be dead voted Biden too.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
A lot of people that aren't even American citizens might
have been Biden too. He is just saying, I'm here
for you. You didn't do something dumb. Biden was great.
I'll be even greater. This is a total audience uh
power grab, right or or voter slash audience power grab.
He's just reaching right over and saying, hey, all you

(47:30):
Biden people, I'm the one that you need. Don't worry
about all this stuff about the demention. We don't have
to talk about that. He was great. He was great.
Vote Gavin Newsom. I know exactly what he's doing. Oh,
I mean, it's gonna be Gavin against Kamala. I think
it's common Well he This is why I think she's
gonna have to think long and hard about this, because
you know, when power is on the line and legacy,

(47:53):
Gavin Newsom, he Clay, he will be able to pummel
Kamala's campaign into smithens on this issue. You think that
random Australian journalist was tough, just wait till evil Keanu
Reeves gets her.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I did love. You could tell Kamalo was getting pissed.
She was like, who put this, this, ause this, all
these negative words? Who put her in front of me?
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by the Lieutenant Governor of Indiana. We just
met him up at Fort Wayne where we were celebrating
the one hundredth anniversary of a great legacy radio station,
Whoeo up there. And when we met you, mister Lieutenant Governor,

(50:02):
there was a lot of uncertainty about what exactly Indiana
was going to do when it came to redistricting, and
we said, well, we'll bring you on to talk. Since
we talked with you up in Fort Wayne, things have evolved.
What is the latest you can tell us about the
idea of redistricting in the state of Indiana and what's

(50:23):
to come.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Well, we're in
the battle right now. The governor called it. President Trump
is absolutely on point pushing states to do this. The
governor called the special session just a couple of days ago,
and now we're trying to get the Republican Senate supermajority
and the Republican supermajority in the House to actually come

(50:46):
back and actually do their duty and there's been questions
on does the governor, according to the state constitution, actually
have the authority to set the time in place he
calls the special session. But now they're saying, well, he
can't set the time and place, which what they're trying
to do some of these little bit more I would
say moderate or not America first type senators and House

(51:07):
members are trying to say the governor can't tell us
when to come back, so they're going to probably maybe
try to kick this can down the road to a
point where we may not be able to do it.
So we're really trying to say, hey, guys, you need
to come back and do this. We need to get
Indiana's voice back and claw it back from the blue
states that have stolen it through gerrymandering and four census

(51:30):
data and nefarious action. So that's what we're doing right now.
And I was the first day wide official to you know,
jump on and say, hey, President Trump is right, He's
taught us how to fight as Republicans. Let's do this.
It's time to go.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
So what is the current status in your state, Lieutenant
governor of the jerrymandering and give us a sense of this,
because I think people are shocked to find out when
they actually, you know, most of us think of our
we think of who has control in Congress, what the
raw numbers are, and who's our congressman, and maybe our
own state. But for people finding out, for example, what

(52:05):
the jerrymandering in say New England looks like, it's pretty
shocking when you get into it. How is it in
your state.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Well, it's very not jerrymandered. I mean, if you look
at our districts, I mean, they're almost this square block
as you can get. There's no drawing these weird lines
that are going through random cities. And Illinois, if you
look at Illinois, they're really jerrymandered. I mean there's one
district that looks like a snake just slithering through the
whole central part of the state from the west to
the east. And but we don't do that in Indiana.

(52:36):
And we're getting screwed because we're trying to play fair,
and the states like Illinois and the New England states
in California are stealing our boats. They're watering down our
Republican voices. And so we just finally said enough is enough,
fight fire with fire. It's time to actually we're going
to get two more seats, and it's nine to zero,

(52:58):
is what the goal? We should have nine Republicans representing
us in Congress and zero Democrats. That's what we should
be we should be fighting for.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
What's the timeframe under which you think this will happen?
I think it's eight to one right now, if I'm
not mistaken. So this would add one more congressional district
to the Republican lineup, is that right?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Or what's the current status and what's the timeframes?

Speaker 5 (53:23):
It's seven and or seven to two right now, So
we have seven Republicans who Democrats, So this would add
two more nine to zero. And it's got to be
done quick because we've got to have our time for
our Secretary of State to get the ballots out. I mean,
filing is January in Indiana, so if we don't, we
can't really file for running for anything if you don't

(53:46):
know the districts, and so we got probably only a
window of maybe a couple more weeks here, and so
that's why it's really coming down to the wire. That's
why I'm concerned that the legislature is just trying to
trying to install this. They're trying to say, hey, okay, fine,
you can call special session, governor, but you know, we're
we're just not going to come back. We'll do it
five months from now. That's when we'll come back. And

(54:07):
it's like, no, that's not the intention of the framers
of the Indiana State Constitution. They wouldn't have given the
governor the authority to call a special session under our
be four of our state Constitution and not let him
set the time in the place. And so that's where
that's the battle we're at right now. I think we'll
get there, guys, I really do. But it's just it's
just unfortunate in a state like Indiana, which is a

(54:28):
super red state, should be the most mega America first
state and the whole Union following President Trump's lead, and
here we are just kind of saying, man, I hope
we can get this ball over the end zone over
the end zone.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
So how is it to get people motivated? I think
that another thing that you deal with in a place
like Indiana, it's a great state, is you know, we
were just there, we got to hang out with you
a bit and wo woa land.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
But because you're you're so.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Read, do you ever have an issue with people thinking
that it's all in the bag, so they don't necessarily
get as mobilized on things like this redistricting as they
need to. And and and you know, how do you
focus in on a place where we feel solid and
republican and a state where you feel solid and republican
that things like this come up and they do need
the attention of of the voters.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
One hundred percent. Complacency is our is our worst enemy
in Indiana because uh, you know, people just kind of say, okay, hey,
we're read, we're good, and and and you try to
you try to help them remember, well, what happens is
sometimes these these politicians get really comfortable and they realize,
I mean, I've I've heard some senators say I'm not
worried because i can be a no, I can be

(55:38):
a strong no, and I'm not worried about it because
I'm never going to have a general opponent. We have
some some senators and reps that don't even get general
opponents in some cases and in some of these districts
from Democrats. That's how we the Democrat Party is in Indiana.
But we get really lazy as a Republican party and
we start, we start you know, seeing uh, seeing that

(56:00):
out in real time. And then you also get the
typical Democrat who knows they can't win as a Democrat
in Indiana, so they'll run as a Republican and they
they basically imfiltrate the party and then they try to
water down the party and move the party back further
to the left. And and so that's that. Those are
the problems that we wrestle with. And so we're you know,

(56:20):
the governor myself, I mean, I think some real strong
conservatives saying, listen, we will work actively to primary people
if we need to. We hope we don't have to,
but gosh, if we can't save our republic from this
Marxist leftist takeover that the Democrat Party has become, then
what do you do it Like, get out of the
way and let real patriots get in there and fight.

(56:40):
We need fighters now more than ever.

Speaker 12 (56:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Speaking of fighters, Indiana Hoosiers are I think one of
the best teams certainly in college football, and right now
the best record in the NFL is the Indianapolis Colts.
When did Indiana become a football state?

Speaker 13 (56:56):
And we're all.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Asking you guys, or have you just got to switch.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
No, I think we're still good at basketball, but I
you know, I'm just shocked. I love it. It's awesome. Listen,
we got I you Hoosiers number two, We got the Colts,
the best team in the NFL. You know, we had
the Pacers made it to the finals, the Fever almost
made it to the finals. I mean, listen, hey, listen,
we could potentially think about this. We could potentially see I,
you and Notre Dame in the national championship this year.

(57:25):
How cool would that be?

Speaker 12 (57:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (57:27):
In college football? If that, if that actually happened. So,
I mean, Indiana has become the sports mecca of the
world right now. And then you got you know, IMS
the Speedway. I mean, we are becoming the place that
the world wants to come to. And it's awesome and
I'm so proud of the state.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Now, if you guys just could be good at basketball
at the Indiana Hoosiers again, I know Purdue's doing well,
but are you.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Well, you know, we need Gene Hackman to come back
and help us.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
So that one of the great all time movies. Hey,
we appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I did watch the Excuse me for a secon hear oh,
I did sort knowledge to drop here. I did watch
the NBA Finals a bit last year because after my
beloved New York Knicks were defeated by said Pacers, they
put up quite a fight and unfortunately UH Halliburton aka
the Haliban was not able to uh to finish them off.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
But I was very impressed with their team and their spirits.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
So Indiana Clay does still have great basketball, just not
at the college level.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Just not at IU, which was the ultimate place, uh,
Lieutenant Governor Beckwith, You'll have to come back on and
update us. Hopefully we can add two congressional seats in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
And we appreciate you updating us absolutely.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Thanks ye keep up the great work.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Will do Uh.

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Speaker 5 (58:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Are you out there right now getting ready for your
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