November 3, 2025 • 61 mins
Reasons for Optimism
Analysis of Donald Trump's extended interview on CBS’s 60 Minutes, where he critiques Democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, labeling him a “communist” rather than a “socialist.” Trump’s remarks spark a broader conversation about the potential national impact of a Mamdani victory, especially as Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Mamdani become symbolic faces of the party. Clay and Buck argue that such a win could damage Democratic messaging ahead of the 2026 midterms.
Mr. NY, Mark Simone
The hosts explore voter turnout trends in New York City, noting historic early voting numbers and the unpredictable nature of first-time voters supporting Mamdani. They also highlight the risk of vote-splitting between Curtis Sliwa and Andrew Cuomo, which could hand Mamdani the win. Guest Mark Simone, WOR host, joins to provide insider insights into both the NYC mayoral race and the New Jersey governor’s race, where Republican Jack Ciattarelli is in a tight contest against Democrat Mikie Sherrill. Simone suggests internal Democratic panic, evidenced by Barack Obama being deployed to campaign in New Jersey, signals Ciattarelli’s momentum. In Virginia, the attorney general and lieutenant governor races are spotlighted as key battlegrounds, with the hosts urging strong Republican turnout in deep-red regions to counterbalance Northern Virginia’s Democratic stronghold.
The conversation shifts to urban safety and crime, with Trump claiming credit for improved conditions in Washington, D.C., following his deployment of the National Guard. The hosts discuss the broader implications of crime reduction in cities like Memphis and the political risks for Democrats if Trump’s policies prove effective. Viral footage of a Chicago carjacking during Halloween is used to illustrate the ongoing crisis of urban violence.
What's Happening to the Culture?
With record-breaking voter turnout expected, the hosts emphasize the urgency of civic participation and preview the potential impact of key races, particularly the New York City mayoral contest featuring Zohran Mamdani, Andrew Cuomo, and Curtis Sliwa.
The hour opens with reflections on voter motivation and turnout, drawing parallels to past elections where outsider candidates like Donald Trump and Barack Obama mobilized previously disengaged voters. Clay and Buck highlight polling data suggesting Mamdani may win due to vote-splitting between Cuomo and Sliwa, raising concerns about a far-left candidate potentially leading America’s largest city.
Cultural decay and low-trust societal behavior are central themes, illustrated by viral videos of Halloween “porch piracy,” where teens and even parents are caught on camera stealing entire bowls of candy. The hosts argue this behavior reflects a broader erosion of values, linking it to absent father figures and the inability to delay gratification—traits associated with long-term success. Clay connects this to his new book, Balls, which explores masculinity, responsibility, and the cultural challenges facing young men in America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and but kicks off. Now everybody,
our friend Mark Simon, mister New York, will be joining
us at the bottom of talk about the New York
Mayor's race, also New Jersey Governor's race, So some big
stuff to dive into with Mark. Got great sources, connections
and insight into both of those contests. So looking forward
(00:22):
to that conversation. In the meantime, we have Donald Trump,
the one and only that down on sixty minutes with
Nora O'Donnell. This was all over the place doing a
long form. It was an hour sit down, but I
think they only aired like twenty something minutes of it.
We wanted to bring you some of the more interesting
(00:43):
moments and dive into some of that. So here we
have first Stop. Because tomorrow is in fact collection day.
Go vote, as we always say, just make sure you
go and do it. It's a good thing to do. Some
places they even give you a little sticker that says
I voted. You know, it's like when you go to
the pd aatrician's office. Did you get fuzzy stickers when
you go to the pediatricians office? Grown up or something?
(01:05):
You know, a little like a maybe they gave you
a Tutsi role, which is a song by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh I know the song well, but I was not
expecting to see as I was sitting at the airport,
caught in travel hell as many people are. Unfortunately right
now you dancing to a song from Was that the
late nineties early two.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Nineties, like ninety three, ninety four? Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, But I was in fact doing my version of
the Tutsi role here in studio.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I did not expect to see that. It was as
I was texting and keeping tabs on my flight.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I look down and you're dancing. Play's telling me that
he can't unsee it. I don't even know what that means.
You know, it feels kind of hurtful. It feels kind
of hurtful. So yes, indeed they they will give you
a at some place at least the I voted stick
or go vote. That's the point. But on mom, Donnie
Trump had this to say, play one.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Zorhan mandan thirty four year old democratic socialist. He's the promunist,
not socialist communist.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Far He's far worse than assessment.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Some people have compared him to a left wing version
of you charismatic, breaking the old rules. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right, this is just Trump being Trump Publius. First he
eats the slams of being a communist. Then he's like
a much better, much better looking guy. Trump in his
thirties was, I will say, a very very striking fellow,
flowing hair, jaw line, very good, very good true facts there.
(02:36):
But all the Mamdani issue, Clay, this is going to
get a lot of national attention. If this guy ends
up winning, as you have been saying all along, it
may post some problems for Democrats going into the mid terms,
because every indicator is that they should at least pretend
they're not going to moderate or to be more moderate,
(02:57):
but they should at least pretend to fool voters. That's
a little harder to do if you're going to be
giving endorsements, for example, to a Mamdani like figure, and
without Grandma Pelosi to keep all the members of Congress
in line, things could get pretty crazy over there on
the Democrats side.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is why.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I may have to give my big speech in
a positive way tomorrow, and I know that there are
a lot of you listening to us in New York City.
But I do think that Democrats are incredibly nervous about
the idea of Mam Donnie being the face of the
Democrat Party because he and AOC are going to become
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the faces of the Democrat Party in the midterm for
next year. Best thing you can say about Mom Donni
if he wins is that he's going to have no
impact and he's not going to be able to put
in place the policies that he has campaigned on. And
certainly there is an incentive for all of you listening
in New York. Upstate New York, which is basically everywhere
(03:58):
outside of New York City is actually not that much
different than Alabama. And it sounds funny to people who
think of New York defined entirely as Manhattan as the
New York City area, But you get outside an hour
outside of New York City, buck, and it might as
well be Alabama or Mississippi in in much I mean
(04:21):
the number of.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
A little more than an hour. But yeah, yeah, I
get what you're saying. Number signs.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
When we went to Cooperstown, Uh, my boys, my kids
were blown away by the number of Trump signs that
are everywhere all over New York. My point on that is,
Kathy Hochel has an opportunity next year, I think, to
make a run as New York City's governor because I
think Mom Donnie is gonna get out a lot of
(04:48):
voters outside of the.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The metro area really goes for Like the radius is
at least an hour in the car in all directions,
but Cooperstown, which is a four hour drive.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yes, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You get out into more of the rural parts of
the state, or you know, closer to rural parts of
the state, you get very read very quickly, and you
know there's a lot of people that like hunting and.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They own I think that surprises a lot of people
who have spent no time because New York City overwhelms
the idea of New York State. Same thing, by the way,
Pennsylvania Philly and Pittsburgh to a certain extent, but you
drive around the state of Pennsylvania, I think Pennsylvania is
like the fourth most rural state in America, and it
astounds people because they think of Pennsylvania as being basically Philadelphia.
(05:35):
But that's my positive. What I would say right now
is if you are looking for reasons of optimism, Jack Chittarelli,
right now, if Republicans show up in big numbers tomorrow,
he's going to win. Now, they have to show up
in big numbers. But you can look at the voting
(05:55):
and maybe we get Ryan Gerdesky on tomorrow to talk
about this on election day because you can look at
the number of early votes they have party registration in
the New Jersey. I'm telling you that roughly party line.
Right now, Chittarelli is down about two hundred and fifty
thousand votes. So if Republicans in New Jersey show up
(06:17):
big on election day, Chittarelly can win. They are really
really nervous about that. Virginia, this AG's race is going
to be very close when some earl Sears is behind,
but it's down ballot. Lieutenant governor looks winnable. Certainly AG
is winnable. And who knows if all of you out
(06:38):
there in deep red parts of Virginia, many of these
states buck as you well know, there's a huge difference.
I'm not sure any state has more variety in terms
of southwestern Virginia, which is as deep red as you
can possibly get and northern Virginia, which is basically as
deep blue as you can get. Yet we need everybody
(07:02):
out there in Virginia to show up in big numbers.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Two.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And if you're out there and you're saying, Okay, I'm
not really fired up about the candidates, maybe I get
out and vote, because they will certainly use any indication
of their wins to try to demean and tear down
Donald Trump one year after his election and say, look,
they're in trouble. There's no way that they can win.
(07:27):
We're getting out spending big numbers, but we have a
chance to pull a big upset.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You mentioned DC.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I thought this was an interesting exchange in the CBS
sixty Minutes sit down. Here is now Norah Donald lives
in DC, yep, And she had to be a little
cagy here because.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
She knows if she does the DC's.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Really safe, everybody else in d C is gonna flip
out and be like, don't even try that. Okay, so
she can't do that. But remember Trump tried to start
with DC to make it safer, and now it hopes
to expand that time lent out to other places. Here's
how this exchange went on safety police security d C
cut three.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
How big a difference is DC now compared to what
it was a year ago?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I mean, you have to be honest with me.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
People walk people in the White House. They woke up
to me, young ladies. I've never seen sir, thank you
very much. I know they don't even have to tell
me what they're thanking me for. But when I asked why,
he said one, you know, said I'd get into Uber
and I felt dangerous.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Even in Uber. They'd attacked the car.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Okay, it wasn't even safe.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Then.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Sarah now walked to work every day and I walked,
I'm so safe.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There's nothing going to happen, one hundred percent safe. And
you know that too.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Normal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I want to ask you about that. You live here,
you know that too. I want to ask you about
difference American city in Washington.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
D C.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I think I've been working too hard. I haven't been
out and about.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's not a fair answer.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You see, I get in my car and I had
to use that one don't work. It's like, you know,
the different like day and night.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's interesting that she she Clay a few years ago
or in an earlier era of sixty minutes and Trump
it would have been No, sir, Remember who was it
who did the This is CBS, and we can't verify
things like I think it was Leslie Stall who did
that whole thing the Trump during interview. Yes, we can't
(09:24):
say things that are not true. That they spied on
me was what Trump said, and that absolutely was true.
Now she has to sort of laugh it off with
like I work too much. No, Trump's idea is working
and she doesn't want to admit it, but she also
can't just blatantly lie about it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, and I saw they have posted it. This is
an example of what we were talking about in that
sixty minutes interview.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They aired twenty seven minutes of the Trump interview. The
actual full length interview was seventy three minutes. So the
president of the United States talk to you for seventy
three minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Good for CBS.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The change that has occurred since the last CBS interview
that I think is going to last long after Trump
is we're not going to claim that we have all
the control here and just make all the edits that
we want. We're going to show you the entirety of
this seventy three minute interview is all out there. If
you want to see Trump talk for seventy three minutes,
(10:22):
you have that ability. But think about the power that
they still have editorially to cut that to twenty seven minutes.
And I thought Trump handled that well. And to be
fair to Nora O'Donnell, as soon as she says the truth,
which is yeah, DC is way safer, people are going
to say, oh, she's in the tank for Trump, because
(10:43):
then she's endorsing his behavior in terms of calling out
the National Guard.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I read a big article though in.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The Wall Street Journal saying, Hey, this is absolutely fantastic
what's happening in Memphis, my home state. The number of
people out there that are really responding in a very
positive way is pretty pretty phenomenal. And I just think,
(11:15):
I mean again, for everybody out there that is living
in these cities Washington, DC, Memphis, very different cities, they're
way safer. And the concern for Democrats Buck is well,
if he's right, if he's what if he's right and
all of a sudden, violent crime is plummeting. Buck, I
watched did you see the video of the dad and
(11:37):
the little girl out trick or treating get carjacked in Chicago.
I don't know how many of you saw this video.
I think it's an Asian man. The video is like
a ring camera outside. He's got his the reports our
eight year old daughter. They pull up, they're just going
in the neighborhood. They park on the corner. Almost as
soon as they park, two guys come running up with
(11:58):
guns and take the take the car. This is a
dad in Chicago taking his little girl out trick or treating.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Again.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The video is out there for all of you to see.
You can watch him pull up and park his car,
and within a minute of him pulling up and parking
the car to start trick or treating, these guys come
running up with pistols and demand his keys. While at
everything else, It's all on a ring camera. And this
(12:28):
is just what people have grown used to experiencing. I
will say I saw a lot and this. A friend
of mine shared his own version of this. Because of
all these ring cameras, where where kids with the parents
pilfer Yes, the sun that says take one each, just
just fill their bags.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That that is disgusting. Dad is disgusting. I agree, and
and and the parents that are there for this stuff
should be a shame.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I suspect that has been happening for a long time,
but now that everybody has video on doorbell cameras, we
can see we should have some fun talking about that,
because I do think you might say, well, why does
that matter? I do think, particularly when the parents are involved,
it's just a sign of a low trust cultural society.
But you talked about in Taiwan, people leave their phones
(13:18):
to save their seats while they go to the bathroom,
and every parent. I've had to talk to my son
about this, Like he went to the bathroom recently and
I was like, no, that he left his phone on
the table and I said, you know, you can never
do that when you go to the bathroom. He's like, well,
I want the waitress to know that I'm still here
and that I haven't left, so she doesn't take my food.
I'm like, that makes total sense. I understand it. You
(13:40):
can never leave your cell phone on the table in
a restaurant in America because we live in unfortunately a
low trust society. I think stealing of all that candy,
like somebody just saying hey, please take one, and you
take the whole thing. It's evidence of a low trust
society and a culture that unfortunately is with a great
(14:00):
deal of rot.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Unfortunately bad cultures. One thing they all have in common
is they don't think about other people. It's true all
over the world right. A culture that is not something
that you want to emulate, does not care. It is inconsiderate.
That is one thing that they have in common. And
I will tell you when I was in Taiwan, I
thought when I was on the high speed train a
few times, one time I was going down to the
military base, I thought, Clay, I was in a quiet car,
(14:25):
which is a wonderful place of civilization on the Acella train.
For those of you who've ever taken that, it's like
the only profitable Amtrak corridor is Boston to DC and
they have this quiet car on that train. I wasn't
a quiet car. I was just in a car full
of Taiwanese people who are respectful and calm and don't
play speakerphone conversations out loud, and don't play music in
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video games without headphones. Yeah, it's not a quiet car.
It's just a car full of Taiwanese people, and it
was really nice. And let me tell you this thing
that's going on in this country where people look, oh,
it's classist or whatever. It No, no, it's just manners.
It's just manners.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, it's an ability to understand that you aren't the
only person in the world. And I mean the older
I get, the more I look around. And culture explains
almost everything.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But high You mentioned high trust societies civilization, and a
high trust society within a civilization is premised upon it
can't just be about your needs. Yes, there have to
be other things. There are rules, there are laws, there
are social mores, there are other things that factor. Anyway,
(15:36):
who to the whole show on this, don't get me started.
The candy, the candy swindlers stealing all the candy at
once with their parents.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Appalling. It would also be interesting, buck Well, you got
to go to break.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But if you layered that over future success in life,
I bet the kids overwhelmingly underperformed because the culture that
their parents have created is one that allows that to occur,
and it's going to ultimately end up hurting the kids
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
breaking down Election day tomorrow and we are joined by
our friend Mark Simone Buck, I'm gonna hold up the
iPad here so you can wait, so you can wave
to him in studio right now. Oh, there he is, Yeah,
there is in New York in Miami. But you guys
(17:29):
have known each other for a long time. Let's start
off here, Mark, I was just talking about off the
air with you. You have done a lot of election
days in New York City over the years. How would
you break down the New Jersey race just across the
river here with so many people out and the close
race there, and what do you expect to see in
(17:50):
New York City big picture? Where are we about what
twelve hours or so until election day New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
You cannot predict it's so close, And don't trust these
public polls. These public poles are pretty cheap and flimsy,
so we can't tell by that it looks like it's deadlocked.
I would think that the campaign of Mikey Cheryl had
some serious internal polling and they panicked because Obama had
endorsed her a couple of weeks ago with a video
that was the endorsement. Now they called them in panic
(18:20):
to come running into New Jersey and go actually campaign
and hold rallies for her, so that means Chitdarelly was
very close, if not slightly ahead. One good thing about
New Jersey they never go three terms with any one party,
so they're due for a Republican switch now. They always
do that in New Jersey, and you got two candidates.
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Chittarelli is a good candidate. Mikey Cheryl very very weak.
Her whole campaign is that she was in the Navy
and she flew a helicopter, and they even rented a
helicopter to show that she can fly a helicopter. I
don't know if this is even in the job description.
She should probably go join the state troopers. They have
helicopters they use. It doesn't mean as governor, but I
would think in the end Chitdarelli wins. It's deadl like,
(19:05):
but he always under polls, and everybody's got to get
out there and vote. In New Jersey, every Republican get
out there and vote. And again they always switch parties
every couple terms. So I think he wins that New
York Mayol race. Again, you can't tell it's we expected
seven eight hundred thousand votes in this election. We're already
(19:26):
at almost a million in the early voting. We'll get
a million tomorrow, it'll go over two million. The model
the pollsters used did not count on that at all.
Incredible turnout. Last time we saw a turnout like this
was like sixty years ago, John Lindsay, So it's hard
to say who are these extra people turning out? I
(19:47):
mean anecdotal evidences. They're older voters that tends to go
for Cuomo or Curtis. And again here's the other thing,
but the poles can't measure this. A lot of these
Mom Donnie voters are first time. They're not even on
the radar of posters. Posters wouldn't even know where to
find these people, so they're not counted in the Pulstar.
Anything can happen. I hate to be wishing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I'm Mark, Yeah, Mark, I got to ask you about
this one as a South Florida resident. Now, this is
certainly on my radar. New York post Nearly a million
New Yorkers claim they are ready to flee New York
City if Mom Donnie becomes mayor. Seven hundred and sixty
five thousand of the eight and a half million residents
of New York City do you do you think they'll
(20:31):
be if Mom Donnie wins, which you know it could happen.
I know you're saying nobody knows it could happen. Do
you think they'll be an outflow from New York or
is this stuff all overblown?
Speaker 7 (20:42):
If there is, then Mom Donnie at least will get
credit for solving the traffic problem here in New York.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Good luck there you go.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
But already in the out of the suburbs of Connecticut,
we've already seen home people out there looking for homes
like crazy. Even the private schools in Connecticut have all
sorts of New York wor trying to register their kids.
So people are looking at it. You got to remember
under Cuomo we had the same problem. We lost a
few million people under Cuomo his bad policies, and in fact,
(21:10):
under Cuomo we lost four congressional seats and there was
one year where you couldn't get a moving van. There
was a shortage of them. So we've been through it before.
You gotta wait and see what happens if Mom Donnie wins.
I don't. I don't know. There may be people moving out,
but I think at a slower pace than you think.
And you read about these businesses, a big Wall Street
(21:30):
firms they're opening in Dallas, and most of that is
back office stuff that they would have been opening there anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Now, what is your biggest concern?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Though?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
If Mom Donnie wins.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
One question we've been banning about here is what can
he really do that's really bad?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Some of the stuff that he's saying, it's like listening
to the guy who's running for student council president in
high school, who's like, and we're going to have like
a jacuzzi in every classroom, and you know, it's absurdly
not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But there are things that is mayrior be able to do.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What are the concerns that you have, Mark about if
this guy does end up as the mayor, he would
be able to really make a mess of things.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
How Yeah, he has no control over the buses, that's
the state. He has no control over rent anything, taxes
is that's the city council. The one concern, and it's
the only one. The big one is the police department.
He could put in a really bad police commissioner, a
real left wing kook of a police commissioner who could
stop enforcing certain laws, pull back the police and all
kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm glad you mentioned that, Mark, because I was reading
over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Donnie keeps saying I'm going to keep Jessica Tish in.
But then he got pressed on it. I don't know
if you saw this, Buck, because I know you've known
Jessica Tish for a long time. He got pressed on
it and he said, well, I haven't actually spoken to
her and asked her to stay. Yeah, so he keeps
saying to try to make people think, oh, she's done
a good job. New York is safer because she's arresting
(22:55):
people and she has done a really good job.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But Buck, he hasn't even spoke to her.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So, I mean, all the time you spend campaigning and
you've never been able or willing to go talk to
the head of the NYPD and ask her to stay on. Now,
the answer might be that if that were to occur,
she would say, well, it's inappropriate for me to talk
and accept jobs from people who haven't won offices, but
at a minimum, shouldn't he you have just conveyed that offer.
(23:21):
Don't you think that would make sense if he really
thought she was doing a great job.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Mark, We've all been at the radio stations where the
new owner comes in, we're going to keep everybody, Yeah,
and they do for about a month or two.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So that could be the case.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
And there are a lot of people saying if he
starts playing around with the police department doing stuff like that,
she wouldn't stay. She wants to run for mayor someday.
So if she sees anything bad happening with the police department,
she will leave it immediately. She's not gonna get tied
to him. You know, we saw that with Deblasio, those
kind of you know, those crazy ideas of domestic violence,
which are the most dangerous calls having a social work
(23:56):
or respond you know, people don't point out the NYPD
has tested that about fifteen times over the last thirty
years and it always ends in dead social workers.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's not a surprise. I mean the emotionally
disturbed person EDP, which is the NYPD shorthand for it
is a call that cops get a lot, and it's
not an easy call if people don't even realize. Mark,
Sometimes a copp will show up and someone is suicidal,
whether they're gonna jump or they're gonna you know, take
their own life with a firearm. Sometimes they decide they're
(24:27):
gonna take somebody with them right before they go. So
it's actually a very high stress and difficult situation, very
dangerous situation. And to your point, the notion that you
would just send a social worker to try to tell somebody, hey,
you know, get away from the edge of the bridge.
Sometimes they grab people and try to pull them off
the edge of the bridge with them. So you know,
this is what the cops have to deal with on
unfortunately a far through regular basis. So we got the
(24:49):
Mamdani situation playing out here. Cuomo and Sliwa, how much
of sleewish staying in mark? I know, you know Curtis
personally well a long time. We had him on the
show last week he made his case and we heard
him out on this. How much of what we're seeing
is just these two guys just can't stand each other,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Cuomo and Cuomo and Sleeve. There's real personal beef.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Yeah, nobody likes Cuomo. They all everybody voting for will
tell you how much they hate this guy. He did
so much damage to New York Is because they hate
this guy. But it's like, what was that Remember the
election in the New Orleans where the guy was in prison.
He just got out of prison with the worst guy
in the world. But he was running against David Duke.
So you had to vote for this ex con. But Curtis.
(25:33):
I talked to Curtis earlier today. You know this thing
about getting out of the race a week ago. He
couldn't get out of the race if he wanted to.
He can't take his name off the ballot. And if
you look at the ballot, this is another problem. It's Mom,
Donnie and Curtis. Those are the two names at the
top of the ballot. Cuomo is eight spaces down. You
got to go hunt for him on the ballot. And
this whole thing is Culoma's fault. Had he been any
(25:53):
good in the primary, he would have beaten Mom Donnie.
Cuomo was a total disaster in the primary, got wiped
out into debates, never campaigned, so he got us in
this position. Curtis has been offered all kinds of bribes
to get out. The largest was ten million.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
He told us that on the air last week. So
Buck asked a good like, let's pretend you've lived here
a long time. Let's say you wake up tomorrow morning. Uh,
and Mom Donnie goes and wins, and you wake up
on Wednesday, your thought is going to be.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
What, Uh, well, at least we stopped Quick Show to talk.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
You know, actually we don't want Mom Donnie to win.
But for us, it would probably be the best thing.
We'd have plenty to talk about every day. It'd be
like the pandemic. You know, I got my highest ratings
during the pandemic. Yeah, people were terrified. They'd listen every
day to know what was Hpso yeah, we'd have our
greatest ratings.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, insanity was so rare, as Buck knows, living in
the New York City apartments, Like everybody was losing their
minds and there were very few people speaking saying but
so if he wins, Buck asked a version of this question.
But I do think what would be your positive? Do
you buy in to buy argument that it helps in
the governor's race potentially that that Kathy hokeel would have
(27:04):
an issue maybe with Elise Stephonic it hurts maybe nationally
in the House, in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
If he wins.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
If Mamdanni, we wake up on Wednesday and he is
the is the elected mayor elect of New York City.
How do you been assessing?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, you're asolutely right. It's going to help everything, to
help the midterms, is gonna help Republicans to be great.
But we'll get wiped out. But it's like your whole
house burns down, But it's good for the fire department's
helping them. But I would tell people we got through
eight years of Deblasio. It was bad, but we got
through it in one piece. And most of the Mamdanni
team they're ex Deblasio team, so it'd be a lot
(27:39):
like Deblasio.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
What would you say, Mark, because you were willing. I
remember we talked when Eric Adams first came into office.
You're willing to give him a chance to do good
things for the city. What would be your you know,
a to f your grade? He dropped out of the race.
He knows he can't win, so he's not gonna be
mayor anymore. Eric Adams all in grade as mayor for
this city of New York.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Well, it's the problem is too Eric Adams. The first
three years total disaster. He brought in the worst people,
most of them got indicted, arrested.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It was horrible.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
He had some more police commissioners in three years than
we had in the last thirty. But then the final
year was great. He brought in Randy Mastro, who was
Giuliani's top guy at city Hall. He ran city Hall,
so he got best guy running city hall. He brought
in Jessica Tish, great police commissioner. In their first month,
she cleaned out all the corruption, got rid of twenty
(28:29):
or thirty major people there. So the last year he
gets an A plus, but the first three years he
gets a total F. So I don't know how he
agreed that if he had done that year two, he
would still be mayor today.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
By the way, this is a bit funny, but Greg
Abbott just tweeted Buck after the polls close tomorrow night,
I will impose a one tariff on anyone moving to
Texas from New York City. So look, I mean where
Buck is out in Florida, where I am in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think there's gonna be d to Texas where the
Governor Abbitt is. I think there's gonna be a lot
of New Yorker saying heck, I'm gonna get screwed here.
Why am I paying fourteen percent State income tax when
places like Tennessee, Texas and Florida have none, and heck,
buck may not even have property taxes. Soon they're talking
about doing away with them completely in Florida, which is
(29:24):
just another sales point.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
We should just make him emperor, just Santis to Florida forever.
You know, it's just a governor. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Just make him emperor just Stantis to Florida would be fabulous. Mark.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
We'll have to check in with you and see how
this all goes tomorrow, but thank you for sharing the expertise.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Always appreciate your perspective.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
All right, thanks for the great show every day.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
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Two guys walk up to a mic Hey Anything goes
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Speaker 2 (30:53):
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
It is election eve in New York City, in New Jersey,
in Virginia, vote vote, vote New Jersey potentially going to
come down to a razor's edge Virginia, particularly AG's race
razor edge as we speak, record potentially high turnout. We're
(31:18):
going to talk to Ryan Gerdusky tomorrow Buck on the program,
which will be election day. But he tweeted yesterday. We
very well may be hitting more than two million votes
by Tuesday night in New York City, the biggest mayoral
election in New.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
York City history.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So it makes it a little bit difficult to know
exactly what is going to happen, because, as you just
heard Mark Simone talking with us, when you get into
record high turnout, motivation is high, there are a lot
of people that haven't been polled, a lot of people, frankly,
that have not voted before. We've seen this in nationwide elections.
(32:02):
Trump brought out a lot of people, frankly, that we
didn't even know we're going to vote. The same thing
happened with Barack Obama. When you go back to that
election twenty twenty, Joe Biden brought out a lot of
people that may not even exist. Because I think more
(32:22):
and more even Democrats are looking at the eighty one
million votes and they're.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Saying, really, really eighty one million, But.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We want all of you to get out and vote
New York, New Jersey, New York City, New Jersey, and Virginia,
and we will be breaking down all of that.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Eight hundred and two to two eight a two. You
can react to that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I want to say something off the top here, Buck,
as we are looking at these numbers you were talking about.
You're talking about New York the Halloween, and there are
tons of videos that are going viral of the so called,
you know, sort of Halloween porch pirates on Friday, the
(33:04):
number of people that left out treats. This happened even
in my own neighborhood. Some My wife was showing me
some of these videos and kids, a lot of times
teenagers frankly, who sometimes make, as all of you well remember,
moronic decisions, but also parents that are involved. Here and
right off the top, we had our last Halloween in
(33:25):
the Travis house. We have been in the same house
for a decade. I just posted a photo gave out
seventeen bottles of fireball shots to all the moms and
dads the neighborhood that we lived in in Franklin, Tennessee.
I can say it now, I think I don't know
that I ever said it before.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
West Haven.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You've been there, Buck, one of the greatest neighborhoods I
think in the entirety of the United States. After a decade,
are moving not going to do Halloween there anymore. But
Halloween has been phenomenal, thanks to everybody who has been
so great to my family for over a decade of
living there. Super sad yesterday when I left, because you know,
(34:05):
you raise your family in a house, at some point
you're going to be in this experience. You got a
six month old we moved into that house. My youngest
was in in a crib. He now is in fifth grade.
So it's just been in a tremendous experience there. I
would describe where I lived as, generally speaking, a high
trust community where everybody looks after everybody else's kids and
(34:28):
it's a fantastic place to live as a result, and
everybody comes around and mostly with the parents, you take
one little piece of candy at a time. But as
you see all of these different stories about these ring
cameras and everybody coming along and just dumping the entire
thing into their bag. I do think this is culture, buck,
(34:51):
and when you lose culture, you lose the country. And
it might sound small, but I do think it's a
metaphor of a low trust society that unfortunately exists in
much of America now.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But we're just talking about the circulation of videos all
over the country. Remember these are usually with parents present.
That's the part. That's the part that I think is signiful.
So there are parents who are watching their kids. Now,
now let's like work through this process for a second.
They're watching their children maybe you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
(35:28):
It's really not like young kids.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
That are doing this.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's not five year olds. It's you know, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds, maybe fourteen year olds that are just
pillaging the take one piece of candy for yourself. Why
is that the rule or why is that the request
so that other people.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Can get their candy? Right?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's very and also you see these kids, it's not
like they're taking a handful and we're saying, oh, they're
only supposed to take one, okay, a handful, spine, No
one's got a problem with that. There are videos with
parents watching, okay, the parents of these kids where they
take like the candy bull and they jump the whole thing, yes,
you know.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Five pounds of candy.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
They dump it into their bag and they're kind of
laughing and gleeful about this and then they you know,
hurriedly walk away and it's just a disgrace. It's disgusting,
and you know, this is one of these things. You
see what you see? You know, we're in this era
where there's video of that over the place and everywhere
of everything, and uh, you know, people, we should bring
(36:32):
back shame a little bit in this country. Like if
you're doing this stuff and people know and your neighbors know,
like you should feel ashamed. I agree, it should be shamed.
You should apologize. You know, there's all these I remember
even near me where there was all the theft going
on Clay there was a grocery store near me that
had the photos of the of the repeat shoplifters and
there have been efforts to sue them.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
How dare you and you know you're not allowed to
show this. It's like, why are people okay with it?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
This is this should be something that we all are
clearly against and it's just a shame that it's something
that should be as joyful and innocent as you know
Halloween trick or treating. There are people who are being
really gross about the whole thing, A lot of them
by it. If this isn't like one person, there's a
lot of this going on, No, I think totally.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
And people can say, wow, what's the significance you know
of this. I do think it is representative of low
trust in culture. And I talked about in Chicago, dad
and daughter going out trick or treating. Dad pulls up
in a car and instantly the car gets stolen. Somebody
runs up with a gun, puts it in his face,
(37:41):
just trying to take the little girl out trick or treating.
And I do think that what you will see likely
occur is the parents that are allowing this to happen,
and even encouraging it to happen, have raised kids that
are going to have a lot of issues in the
years ahead because they have lost the ability to interact
(38:02):
in an honest culture. And to your point, teenagers do
stupid things, and so to me, the parents watching it
and even encouraging it is a substantial part of this.
But I think it speaks also to and I know
there are strict moms, but we had a big conversation
about this. I think it speaks also to a lot
(38:24):
of times dads are enforcers in households. You know, particularly
young men boys, they respond to dad as a household
influencer more than they do to mom. That doesn't mean
that moms out there aren't often forced to do incredible
job both raising, trying to play the role of both
(38:45):
parents because a lot of men are absent. But this
reminds me Buck of do you remember the big study
they did. This is why I think it would be
true if you could run out for years. One of
the best signs of your ability to succeed in life
is can you defer rewards?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And they have that great is the like either it's
a donut or a cookie. Marshmallows was the initial one
they tell you for those of you haven't seen this study,
and they actually have funny videos of this of little
kids trying to avoid a treat, right, and they basically
come in and they say, hey, if you can wait
(39:22):
a certain amount of time, will give you two. And
so there's a treat on the table and it's sometimes
a cookie donut. I think it started with marshmallows, and
they'll be like, hey, little kid, if you can wait,
then we'll give you double.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And what they have been able to find is the
kids that are able to defer the reward have overwhelmingly
higher levels of success than the kids who take the
immediate gratification in front of them. And to me, this
is a sign of that, right. Hey, you're still gonna
get a lot of candy. I mean, my son came
(39:58):
home with a a pillowcase full of candy. But you
have to put in the time to go from one
house to another, or you can run up and dump
the whole thing in at once. I think you're gonna
see that the life results are actually negative for the
kids that are doing this.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
There's also very clear, very clear data on delaying gratification
and IQ level.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
So now you start to get it to this part
of the conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Higher IQ corresponds directly with a greater likelihood to be
willing to delay gratification for better reward. So this is true.
Any of you can you can check this out. Dumber
people want it right now?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah? Just true? No, I mean, look and look.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
For being a parent, I would argue one of the
most important things you do as a parent is teach
your kids to play the long game. Get good grades
in school. Do you get immediate gratification because you make
good grades in school in eighth grade? Not necessarily do
you get immediate gratification for doing your homework every single night,
(41:07):
for showing up at class, for taking tough courses, not immediately,
but you play the long game and overtime, good decisions
lead to better outcomes. And this is a big part,
you know, candidly, of what I wrote about. And I'm
asking you to go buy the book. To buy the
book Balls. It's all about how do we raise better, younger,
(41:29):
more successful men. And this is something that I spend
a lot of time thinking about. And when I saw
these videos of these porch pirates stealing all the candy,
I couldn't help but think there's a lot of absent dads,
I bet, and moms, but particularly dads when it comes
to bad behavior by kids. So you got to be shameless.
(41:52):
The book is out tomorrow. I asked you in the
first hour I'm gonna talk about it tomorrow. Can you
drive this to the top ten best sellers on Amazon.
That would mean a tremendous amount to me, all of
the proceeds going to charity. Just got to sell the
book is Balls. I'm holding it up on the video
feed from our New York City studio. You're gonna see
me all over Fox News selling this book. But it
(42:16):
would mean a lot to me if you guys would
go buy a copy and give it to someone else.
Buy a copy for somebody that you think needs some
balls in their life either metaphorically speaking. Again, it's everywhere.
It's gonna be in every bookstore. My name Clay Travis.
The book is Balls. Please go buy it. Buck's gonna
have a book out uh in January. I'm told the
(42:39):
publisher is very happy I bought a copy of Balls.
I got Balls on the Way. You got Balls on
the Way? Is a roommate who loves Polish sausages. Told him, Hey,
you might as well add some balls to it too.
You know, I'm gonna throw this out there because I
didn't want to. I didn't want to start this once again,
because he actually is a real roommate from the Chicago area.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
He also was a robe guy, which maybe is not
surprised Polish.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Sauceage guy being a robe guy. I mean I think that,
you know.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I would just saying he also would walk around our
dorm room in a row or you know, our dorm
housing in a robe all the time. So Polish sausage
and robe they can go hand in hand, you never know.
By the way, we need to talk about this too.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I bet a lot of our listeners are caught up
in air traffic control. I'm just seeing Houston has told
people you may have a three hour wait to get
through TSAH Buck I traveled. I was trying to come
back from Chicago on Friday. This is if you're out
there and you're not a federal employee. I think some
(43:39):
of the situations right now with delays has turned into
a crazy city. You know who I saw actually Sunday
as I was traveling to New York City, our friend Margo,
President Trump's top assistant.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I come right through security.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
She is awesome, does incredible behind the scenes work for
President Trump. She just got back from Asia and she
was at the Ohio State football game over the weekend.
And I come through security. It's TSA as kind of
a mess everywhere. Boom, Marco who does Marco Martin, who
does incredible work for President Trump? Right there in the
Nashville airport. But this is the lead story right now
(44:19):
on CNN travel misery. As people are having issues with
TSA air traffic control. They shut down Nashville's airport on
Friday for several hours over this. This is where I
think a lot of people are starting to get very,
very frustrated. About the shut down because it starts to
impact their individual lives.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Monday at
yition of the program. I just took a picture of it,
so I have it on my phone. Buck Final New
York City mayoral poll from Atlas Intel. They have an
A plus rating in terms of they have been one
of the more reliable polls out there. Their final poll,
(46:19):
Mom Donni forty four percent, Andrew Cuomo thirty nine percent,
Curtis Sliwa fifteen and a half percent. According to them,
without Sliwa in the race, Cuomo would be winning by
five points over Mam Donni. So we may well wake
(46:41):
up on Wednesday as we talked last week with Curtis Sliwa,
and the results may be that if Sliwa had chosen
not to run or dropped out at some point and
endorsed Cuomo, Mom Donnie would have lost. But by dividing
potentially the vote totals now we will see. Because there
(47:04):
are record amounts of turnout underway, it may be that
having double opponents has allowed mom Donnie a socialist at best,
communist at worst to take over.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Our nation's largest city.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Okay, some of you may be saying culturally the impact
I wanted to play this.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
This is Did you see this yet? Buck a Well?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
First, let me play was the woman in Los Angeles
area Gold Gym to confirm this is a video that
has gone very viral.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
A woman in.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
LA is a Gold Gym workout person. I guess a
customer would be one way of saying it of the
Gold gym.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
And she was kicked out.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Of Gold Gym and they ended her membership because she
complained about a man using the women's locker room in
the Gold's gym. We've had to edit it a bit,
but this has gone megaviral. Listen, gods zem Man broad Man.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
We're big and the women's locker role and that's why.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
I'm getting kicked out and I want to make short
of cross.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Now everybody saw that man in the locker role. No
one says and he's done with it. He's still day
and sang a n me making in front of a man.
But I'm might miss I'm turning that day for not
(48:44):
running meg in the locker.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Room Okay, now you could hear she's a little fired up,
a little bit of salty language there. This has gone megaviral.
Someone recorded her complaining because she has been banned from
Gold's gym.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Not the man with as.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
You heard, male genitals in the women's locker room, but
this woman, black woman, to the extent that you care
about race, that is out there. She has now gone
viral for speaking out about this buck. I see it
connected here because this was the LA women's soccer team.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
So one of the women.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
At on the La angel City women's soccer team did
an article for the New York Post saying we need
to have men out of women's sports. It's a professional
soccer player. New York Post ran it the angel FC.
Also in Los Angeles, players said that the women's soccer
(49:41):
player who said women's soccer should only be made up
of women said that she was racist and transphobic their teammate.
They had a press conference to respond to it. This
is cut twenty eight. We pulled some of the cut.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
That article does not speak for this team in this
locker room. I've had a lot of combos with my
teammates in the past few days and they are hurt
and they are harmed by the article, and also they
are disgusted by some of the things that were said
in the article, and it's really important for me to
say that. And we don't agree with the things written
(50:16):
for a plethora of reasons, but mostly the undertones come
across as transphobic and racist as well. The article calls
for genetic testing on certain players, and it has a
photo of an African player as a headline, and that's
very harmful and to me, it's inherently racist because to
single out this community based on them looking or being
(50:37):
different is absolutely a problem. And as a mixed woman
with a black family, I'm devastated by the undertones of
this article.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I saw this last night book and I couldn't. I
watched the whole press conference. The racist part of this
article is they took a photo of Castor Semina, who
is a man that has been winning women's biologically male
has been winning women's races, happens to be from Africa,
(51:08):
but is a sign of a man competing in women
winning women's championships. The New York Post the picture, the author,
the women's soccer player who wrote this piece, which I
think is actually brave. I can't believe we need to
do it, but I mean to speak out and call
her racist and transphobic for saying, hey, we need to
(51:32):
have rules in place to ensure that men can't compete
in women's professional soccer. This is the same city where
this woman is going viral for saying, hey, how am
I getting canceled in golds gym? This is a real
thing the Democrats are in favor of, including Abigail Spanberger,
who is running for governor in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
You know, why do they test for steroids in men's sports?
You know why you're not necessarily better just because you're
hitting the juice real hard? And you know, I mean,
you can make a lot of these same arguments for that, like, well,
is it really unfair? Don't you still have to do
the things you're doing. It's not proven that every person
who takes steroids is going to be so much stronger
(52:13):
than other people who don't.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I'm sure there are some people on steroids.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
It just all sounds like nonsense, doesn't And by the way,
somebody should write book called Balls where they discuss many
at these controversies, A lot a lot about this Clay.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
This is one of the surprises that many of us
have after this last election. The Democrats are not backing
off this at all. They are continuing to push for this,
and I start to think that the only way that
maybe we start to get beyond this is we're going
to have to start recruiting guys in all these different sports,
I agree, who will do the bare minimum, the bare
(52:53):
minimum required to say that they are trans and then
they will have to defeat women's professionals sports teams by
like one hundred to zero, which is what would actually
happen if you got as you know, you actually got,
if you actually got male athletes in these sports.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
They don't have to be pro level, but they just
have to be good.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yep, you know, if you've got if you had a team,
if you had teams of D one level men for
these different team sports trying to play against these women's
pro teams, they would absolutely annihilate them and it wouldn't
even be close.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
And if they.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Do that enough, if there's a team of quote trends
women that goes undefeated and wins every soccer game ten nothing,
would then they start to or would they?
Speaker 3 (53:39):
I don't know. By the way, maybe that wouldn't be
enough play. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
I start to think that this is such a it's
a little bit like the climate change thing. It's become
such a religious belief for people that they will not
move their thinking on the subject whatsoever. It does not
matter what reality is presented to them, or how much
reality is presented to them.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
They just don't care.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
I look, I don't I don't understand how it has
become the party, the position of the Democrat Party, that
men should be able to walk around in women's locker
room with you know, full male genitalia and still be
claiming that they are women. And to your point, Buck,
(54:24):
I have offered to pay a man to identify as
a woman and go play in the WNBA. Maybe I
need to expand it to the National Women's Soccer League.
So if you are out there listening right now and
you are a talented male soccer player, to Buck's point,
let's say you play D one men's soccer and you
want to identify as a woman and try to make
(54:46):
a women's pro soccer team. I think we have to
just call out the absurdity of these arguments. It's not racist,
it's not transphobic, it's not sexist. There's just a real
biological difference here. So if you are a male se
soccer player and you are listening to us right now,
d one, I would encourage you to go to open
(55:06):
tryouts if you make a women's soccer team, or they
ban you, just say you identify as a woman.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
If you make a women's.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Soccer team, I'll pay you one hundred grand challenge out
there for every men's every man listening to us right now,
I want one of you out there to try to
make a women's pro soccer team. Just tell them if
they question you, hey, I identify as a woman, and
I want you to make the team because if they
(55:37):
don't have this rule in place, it would be transphobic
for them to stop you from being able to become
a male identifying as a woman professional athlete. And I
think you might be able to score fifty goals in
a year. And maybe this is what needs to happen
in the National Women's Soccer League. Because again, this is
angel FC. I think they're called. This is Bob Iger,
(56:01):
the CEO of Disney owns this team. Buck, did you
know that the ceo of Disney, Bob Iiger that owns ESPN,
he and his wife own this LA soccer team that
just said it's transphobic and racist for one of their
players to say men shouldn't be able to play women's sports.
I'm putting one hundred grand on the table for all
(56:24):
male soccer players out there. Figure out how to make
a team. If you make it, If you make a
team and play in a game, I'll give you one
hundred grand, which is probably more than a lot of
the females, more than they make, more than the women's
average soccer player makes. I will give you one hundred
grand my own money if you are a man listening
to us right now, and you can make a national
(56:45):
women's soccer League team.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I really do wonder what is the basis in some
of these leagues currently. If you say you're what I'm saying, Yeah,
you know, and you and I have some facial hair going.
If I just showed up, if I didn't do the
thing where I get like super fake long nails and
grow my hair out long, or get a wig and
put a bunch of rouge on my cheeks or whatever, like,
(57:09):
if I just show up and say I'm actually a chick.
Do they have to let me try out?
Speaker 3 (57:16):
It'd be transphoted.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
I mean, who gets I mean, who gets to make
the determination of I mean, if the guy's walking around
in the golds gym in LA and he's got what's
the phrase that we can u he's got a penis.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
I'm trying to think of the word, right, male equipment,
mail equipment.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
He's got the he's got the carrot and the broccoli,
and he's just walking around like it's pretty clear that
he's a dude. I'm just I think the penis and
the balls are undefeated in terms of male genitalia. Uh,
it's defining the gender. Although you know they like to
argue now that sometimes doctors at birth get it wrong.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I was there for three berths when they held the
baby up, I was like, hey, I got a pretty
good sense of what gender I've got.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
I've always thought it's interesting too that they they they
explicitly deny that this is about intersex formally called hermaphrodite individuals,
which is a very rare genetic.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
Unfortunately, very rare. Yes, very rare.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
But it's not that it's never about that, because then
you could you can deal with that biologically by the way,
they're generally much more male or much more female. It
just has to do with the sex organs. But actually
the res you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Historically they would have defined as one way or the other.
Before we had gender testing, they would have just decided, hey,
and it's unfortunate, but it's highly irregular that you basically
have almost uh you know, like Klein syndrome of Kleinfelter
or something like that. I think, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
But that is not this is this is this is
truly I say, therefore I am is the basis of this.
And also they don't want to get into hormone stuff
either play because well, hold on a second, why if
you have to take hormones to make you the thing that,
how are you affirming that you're transforming? You're not affirming, right,
(59:12):
So that's what has to be a psychological thing. It
can't be that your biochemistry is changed and therefore you
are because you're altering your biochemistry. So there's clearly a
physical basis for this, Like why do you have to
do that to be a woman? If you only have
to say you're a woman and then you're a woman.
It's it is the height of crazy. But here we are,
(59:34):
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Second hour of Clay and but kicks off. Now everybody,
our friend Mark Simon, mister New York, will be joining
us at the bottom of talk about the New York
Mayor's race, also New Jersey Governor's race, So some big
stuff to dive into with Mark. Got great sources, connections
and insight into both of those contests. So looking forward
(00:22):
to that conversation. In the meantime, we have Donald Trump,
the one and only that down on sixty minutes with
Nora O'Donnell. This was all over the place doing a
long form. It was an hour sit down, but I
think they only aired like twenty something minutes of it.
We wanted to bring you some of the more interesting
(00:43):
moments and dive into some of that. So here we
have first Stop. Because tomorrow is in fact collection day.
Go vote, as we always say, just make sure you
go and do it. It's a good thing to do. Some
places they even give you a little sticker that says
I voted. You know, it's like when you go to
the pd aatrician's office. Did you get fuzzy stickers when
you go to the pediatricians office? Grown up or something?
(01:05):
You know, a little like a maybe they gave you
a Tutsi role, which is a song by the way.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh I know the song well, but I was not
expecting to see as I was sitting at the airport,
caught in travel hell as many people are. Unfortunately right
now you dancing to a song from Was that the
late nineties early two.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Nineties, like ninety three, ninety four? Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, But I was in fact doing my version of
the Tutsi role here in studio.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I did not expect to see that. It was as
I was texting and keeping tabs on my flight.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I look down and you're dancing. Play's telling me that
he can't unsee it. I don't even know what that means.
You know, it feels kind of hurtful. It feels kind
of hurtful. So yes, indeed they they will give you
a at some place at least the I voted stick
or go vote. That's the point. But on mom, Donnie
Trump had this to say, play one.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Zorhan mandan thirty four year old democratic socialist. He's the promunist,
not socialist communist.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Far He's far worse than assessment.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Some people have compared him to a left wing version
of you charismatic, breaking the old rules. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right, this is just Trump being Trump Publius. First he
eats the slams of being a communist. Then he's like
a much better, much better looking guy. Trump in his
thirties was, I will say, a very very striking fellow,
flowing hair, jaw line, very good, very good true facts there.
(02:36):
But all the Mamdani issue, Clay, this is going to
get a lot of national attention. If this guy ends
up winning, as you have been saying all along, it
may post some problems for Democrats going into the mid terms,
because every indicator is that they should at least pretend
they're not going to moderate or to be more moderate,
(02:57):
but they should at least pretend to fool voters. That's
a little harder to do if you're going to be
giving endorsements, for example, to a Mamdani like figure, and
without Grandma Pelosi to keep all the members of Congress
in line, things could get pretty crazy over there on
the Democrats side.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is why.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I may have to give my big speech in
a positive way tomorrow, and I know that there are
a lot of you listening to us in New York City.
But I do think that Democrats are incredibly nervous about
the idea of Mam Donnie being the face of the
Democrat Party because he and AOC are going to become
(03:35):
the faces of the Democrat Party in the midterm for
next year. Best thing you can say about Mom Donni
if he wins is that he's going to have no
impact and he's not going to be able to put
in place the policies that he has campaigned on. And
certainly there is an incentive for all of you listening
in New York. Upstate New York, which is basically everywhere
(03:58):
outside of New York City is actually not that much
different than Alabama. And it sounds funny to people who
think of New York defined entirely as Manhattan as the
New York City area, But you get outside an hour
outside of New York City, buck, and it might as
well be Alabama or Mississippi in in much I mean
(04:21):
the number of.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
A little more than an hour. But yeah, yeah, I
get what you're saying. Number signs.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
When we went to Cooperstown, Uh, my boys, my kids
were blown away by the number of Trump signs that
are everywhere all over New York. My point on that is,
Kathy Hochel has an opportunity next year, I think, to
make a run as New York City's governor because I
think Mom Donnie is gonna get out a lot of
(04:48):
voters outside of the.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The metro area really goes for Like the radius is
at least an hour in the car in all directions,
but Cooperstown, which is a four hour drive.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yes, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You get out into more of the rural parts of
the state, or you know, closer to rural parts of
the state, you get very read very quickly, and you
know there's a lot of people that like hunting and.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They own I think that surprises a lot of people
who have spent no time because New York City overwhelms
the idea of New York State. Same thing, by the way,
Pennsylvania Philly and Pittsburgh to a certain extent, but you
drive around the state of Pennsylvania, I think Pennsylvania is
like the fourth most rural state in America, and it
astounds people because they think of Pennsylvania as being basically Philadelphia.
(05:35):
But that's my positive. What I would say right now
is if you are looking for reasons of optimism, Jack Chittarelli,
right now, if Republicans show up in big numbers tomorrow,
he's going to win. Now, they have to show up
in big numbers. But you can look at the voting
(05:55):
and maybe we get Ryan Gerdesky on tomorrow to talk
about this on election day because you can look at
the number of early votes they have party registration in
the New Jersey. I'm telling you that roughly party line.
Right now, Chittarelli is down about two hundred and fifty
thousand votes. So if Republicans in New Jersey show up
(06:17):
big on election day, Chittarelly can win. They are really
really nervous about that. Virginia, this AG's race is going
to be very close when some earl Sears is behind,
but it's down ballot. Lieutenant governor looks winnable. Certainly AG
is winnable. And who knows if all of you out
(06:38):
there in deep red parts of Virginia, many of these
states buck as you well know, there's a huge difference.
I'm not sure any state has more variety in terms
of southwestern Virginia, which is as deep red as you
can possibly get and northern Virginia, which is basically as
deep blue as you can get. Yet we need everybody
(07:02):
out there in Virginia to show up in big numbers.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Two.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And if you're out there and you're saying, Okay, I'm
not really fired up about the candidates, maybe I get
out and vote, because they will certainly use any indication
of their wins to try to demean and tear down
Donald Trump one year after his election and say, look,
they're in trouble. There's no way that they can win.
(07:27):
We're getting out spending big numbers, but we have a
chance to pull a big upset.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You mentioned DC.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I thought this was an interesting exchange in the CBS
sixty Minutes sit down. Here is now Norah Donald lives
in DC, yep, And she had to be a little
cagy here because.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
She knows if she does the DC's.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Really safe, everybody else in d C is gonna flip
out and be like, don't even try that. Okay, so
she can't do that. But remember Trump tried to start
with DC to make it safer, and now it hopes
to expand that time lent out to other places. Here's
how this exchange went on safety police security d C
cut three.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
How big a difference is DC now compared to what
it was a year ago?
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I mean, you have to be honest with me.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
People walk people in the White House. They woke up
to me, young ladies. I've never seen sir, thank you
very much. I know they don't even have to tell
me what they're thanking me for. But when I asked why,
he said one, you know, said I'd get into Uber
and I felt dangerous.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Even in Uber. They'd attacked the car.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Okay, it wasn't even safe.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Then.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Sarah now walked to work every day and I walked,
I'm so safe.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
There's nothing going to happen, one hundred percent safe. And
you know that too.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Normal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I want to ask you about that. You live here,
you know that too. I want to ask you about
difference American city in Washington.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
D C.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I think I've been working too hard. I haven't been
out and about.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's not a fair answer.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You see, I get in my car and I had
to use that one don't work. It's like, you know,
the different like day and night.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's interesting that she she Clay a few years ago
or in an earlier era of sixty minutes and Trump
it would have been No, sir, Remember who was it
who did the This is CBS, and we can't verify
things like I think it was Leslie Stall who did
that whole thing the Trump during interview. Yes, we can't
(09:24):
say things that are not true. That they spied on
me was what Trump said, and that absolutely was true.
Now she has to sort of laugh it off with
like I work too much. No, Trump's idea is working
and she doesn't want to admit it, but she also
can't just blatantly lie about it.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, and I saw they have posted it. This is
an example of what we were talking about in that
sixty minutes interview.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They aired twenty seven minutes of the Trump interview. The
actual full length interview was seventy three minutes. So the
president of the United States talk to you for seventy
three minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Good for CBS.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The change that has occurred since the last CBS interview
that I think is going to last long after Trump
is we're not going to claim that we have all
the control here and just make all the edits that
we want. We're going to show you the entirety of
this seventy three minute interview is all out there. If
you want to see Trump talk for seventy three minutes,
(10:22):
you have that ability. But think about the power that
they still have editorially to cut that to twenty seven minutes.
And I thought Trump handled that well. And to be
fair to Nora O'Donnell, as soon as she says the truth,
which is yeah, DC is way safer, people are going
to say, oh, she's in the tank for Trump, because
(10:43):
then she's endorsing his behavior in terms of calling out
the National Guard.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I read a big article though in.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The Wall Street Journal saying, Hey, this is absolutely fantastic
what's happening in Memphis, my home state. The number of
people out there that are really responding in a very
positive way is pretty pretty phenomenal. And I just think,
(11:15):
I mean again, for everybody out there that is living
in these cities Washington, DC, Memphis, very different cities, they're
way safer. And the concern for Democrats Buck is well,
if he's right, if he's what if he's right and
all of a sudden, violent crime is plummeting. Buck, I
watched did you see the video of the dad and
(11:37):
the little girl out trick or treating get carjacked in Chicago.
I don't know how many of you saw this video.
I think it's an Asian man. The video is like
a ring camera outside. He's got his the reports our
eight year old daughter. They pull up, they're just going
in the neighborhood. They park on the corner. Almost as
soon as they park, two guys come running up with
(11:58):
guns and take the take the car. This is a
dad in Chicago taking his little girl out trick or treating.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Again.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The video is out there for all of you to see.
You can watch him pull up and park his car,
and within a minute of him pulling up and parking
the car to start trick or treating, these guys come
running up with pistols and demand his keys. While at
everything else, It's all on a ring camera. And this
(12:28):
is just what people have grown used to experiencing. I
will say I saw a lot and this. A friend
of mine shared his own version of this. Because of
all these ring cameras, where where kids with the parents
pilfer Yes, the sun that says take one each, just
just fill their bags.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That that is disgusting. Dad is disgusting. I agree, and
and and the parents that are there for this stuff
should be a shame.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I suspect that has been happening for a long time,
but now that everybody has video on doorbell cameras, we
can see we should have some fun talking about that,
because I do think you might say, well, why does
that matter? I do think, particularly when the parents are involved,
it's just a sign of a low trust cultural society.
But you talked about in Taiwan, people leave their phones
(13:18):
to save their seats while they go to the bathroom,
and every parent. I've had to talk to my son
about this, Like he went to the bathroom recently and
I was like, no, that he left his phone on
the table and I said, you know, you can never
do that when you go to the bathroom. He's like, well,
I want the waitress to know that I'm still here
and that I haven't left, so she doesn't take my food.
I'm like, that makes total sense. I understand it. You
(13:40):
can never leave your cell phone on the table in
a restaurant in America because we live in unfortunately a
low trust society. I think stealing of all that candy,
like somebody just saying hey, please take one, and you
take the whole thing. It's evidence of a low trust
society and a culture that unfortunately is with a great
(14:00):
deal of rot.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Unfortunately bad cultures. One thing they all have in common
is they don't think about other people. It's true all
over the world right. A culture that is not something
that you want to emulate, does not care. It is inconsiderate.
That is one thing that they have in common. And
I will tell you when I was in Taiwan, I
thought when I was on the high speed train a
few times, one time I was going down to the
military base, I thought, Clay, I was in a quiet car,
(14:25):
which is a wonderful place of civilization on the Acella train.
For those of you who've ever taken that, it's like
the only profitable Amtrak corridor is Boston to DC and
they have this quiet car on that train. I wasn't
a quiet car. I was just in a car full
of Taiwanese people who are respectful and calm and don't
play speakerphone conversations out loud, and don't play music in
(14:47):
video games without headphones. Yeah, it's not a quiet car.
It's just a car full of Taiwanese people, and it
was really nice. And let me tell you this thing
that's going on in this country where people look, oh,
it's classist or whatever. It No, no, it's just manners.
It's just manners.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, it's an ability to understand that you aren't the
only person in the world. And I mean the older
I get, the more I look around. And culture explains
almost everything.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
But high You mentioned high trust societies civilization, and a
high trust society within a civilization is premised upon it
can't just be about your needs. Yes, there have to
be other things. There are rules, there are laws, there
are social mores, there are other things that factor. Anyway,
(15:36):
who to the whole show on this, don't get me started.
The candy, the candy swindlers stealing all the candy at
once with their parents.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Appalling. It would also be interesting, buck Well, you got
to go to break.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But if you layered that over future success in life,
I bet the kids overwhelmingly underperformed because the culture that
their parents have created is one that allows that to occur,
and it's going to ultimately end up hurting the kids
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
breaking down Election day tomorrow and we are joined by
our friend Mark Simone Buck, I'm gonna hold up the
iPad here so you can wait, so you can wave
to him in studio right now. Oh, there he is, Yeah,
there is in New York in Miami. But you guys
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have known each other for a long time. Let's start
off here, Mark, I was just talking about off the
air with you. You have done a lot of election
days in New York City over the years. How would
you break down the New Jersey race just across the
river here with so many people out and the close
race there, and what do you expect to see in
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New York City big picture? Where are we about what
twelve hours or so until election day New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
You cannot predict it's so close, And don't trust these
public polls. These public poles are pretty cheap and flimsy,
so we can't tell by that it looks like it's deadlocked.
I would think that the campaign of Mikey Cheryl had
some serious internal polling and they panicked because Obama had
endorsed her a couple of weeks ago with a video
that was the endorsement. Now they called them in panic
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to come running into New Jersey and go actually campaign
and hold rallies for her, so that means Chitdarelly was
very close, if not slightly ahead. One good thing about
New Jersey they never go three terms with any one party,
so they're due for a Republican switch now. They always
do that in New Jersey, and you got two candidates.
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Chittarelli is a good candidate. Mikey Cheryl very very weak.
Her whole campaign is that she was in the Navy
and she flew a helicopter, and they even rented a
helicopter to show that she can fly a helicopter. I
don't know if this is even in the job description.
She should probably go join the state troopers. They have
helicopters they use. It doesn't mean as governor, but I
would think in the end Chitdarelli wins. It's deadl like,
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but he always under polls, and everybody's got to get
out there and vote. In New Jersey, every Republican get
out there and vote. And again they always switch parties
every couple terms. So I think he wins that New
York Mayol race. Again, you can't tell it's we expected
seven eight hundred thousand votes in this election. We're already
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at almost a million in the early voting. We'll get
a million tomorrow, it'll go over two million. The model
the pollsters used did not count on that at all.
Incredible turnout. Last time we saw a turnout like this
was like sixty years ago, John Lindsay, So it's hard
to say who are these extra people turning out? I
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mean anecdotal evidences. They're older voters that tends to go
for Cuomo or Curtis. And again here's the other thing,
but the poles can't measure this. A lot of these
Mom Donnie voters are first time. They're not even on
the radar of posters. Posters wouldn't even know where to
find these people, so they're not counted in the Pulstar.
Anything can happen. I hate to be wishing.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I'm Mark, Yeah, Mark, I got to ask you about
this one as a South Florida resident. Now, this is
certainly on my radar. New York post Nearly a million
New Yorkers claim they are ready to flee New York
City if Mom Donnie becomes mayor. Seven hundred and sixty
five thousand of the eight and a half million residents
of New York City do you do you think they'll
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be if Mom Donnie wins, which you know it could happen.
I know you're saying nobody knows it could happen. Do
you think they'll be an outflow from New York or
is this stuff all overblown?
Speaker 7 (20:42):
If there is, then Mom Donnie at least will get
credit for solving the traffic problem here in New York.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Good luck there you go.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
But already in the out of the suburbs of Connecticut,
we've already seen home people out there looking for homes
like crazy. Even the private schools in Connecticut have all
sorts of New York wor trying to register their kids.
So people are looking at it. You got to remember
under Cuomo we had the same problem. We lost a
few million people under Cuomo his bad policies, and in fact,
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under Cuomo we lost four congressional seats and there was
one year where you couldn't get a moving van. There
was a shortage of them. So we've been through it before.
You gotta wait and see what happens if Mom Donnie wins.
I don't. I don't know. There may be people moving out,
but I think at a slower pace than you think.
And you read about these businesses, a big Wall Street
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firms they're opening in Dallas, and most of that is
back office stuff that they would have been opening there anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Now, what is your biggest concern?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Though?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
If Mom Donnie wins.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
One question we've been banning about here is what can
he really do that's really bad?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Some of the stuff that he's saying, it's like listening
to the guy who's running for student council president in
high school, who's like, and we're going to have like
a jacuzzi in every classroom, and you know, it's absurdly
not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But there are things that is mayrior be able to do.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What are the concerns that you have, Mark about if
this guy does end up as the mayor, he would
be able to really make a mess of things.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
How Yeah, he has no control over the buses, that's
the state. He has no control over rent anything, taxes
is that's the city council. The one concern, and it's
the only one. The big one is the police department.
He could put in a really bad police commissioner, a
real left wing kook of a police commissioner who could
stop enforcing certain laws, pull back the police and all
kinds of things.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm glad you mentioned that, Mark, because I was reading
over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Donnie keeps saying I'm going to keep Jessica Tish in.
But then he got pressed on it. I don't know
if you saw this, Buck, because I know you've known
Jessica Tish for a long time. He got pressed on
it and he said, well, I haven't actually spoken to
her and asked her to stay. Yeah, so he keeps
saying to try to make people think, oh, she's done
a good job. New York is safer because she's arresting
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people and she has done a really good job.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But Buck, he hasn't even spoke to her.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So, I mean, all the time you spend campaigning and
you've never been able or willing to go talk to
the head of the NYPD and ask her to stay on. Now,
the answer might be that if that were to occur,
she would say, well, it's inappropriate for me to talk
and accept jobs from people who haven't won offices, but
at a minimum, shouldn't he you have just conveyed that offer.
(23:21):
Don't you think that would make sense if he really
thought she was doing a great job.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Mark, We've all been at the radio stations where the
new owner comes in, we're going to keep everybody, Yeah,
and they do for about a month or two.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So that could be the case.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
And there are a lot of people saying if he
starts playing around with the police department doing stuff like that,
she wouldn't stay. She wants to run for mayor someday.
So if she sees anything bad happening with the police department,
she will leave it immediately. She's not gonna get tied
to him. You know, we saw that with Deblasio, those
kind of you know, those crazy ideas of domestic violence,
which are the most dangerous calls having a social work
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or respond you know, people don't point out the NYPD
has tested that about fifteen times over the last thirty
years and it always ends in dead social workers.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's not a surprise. I mean the emotionally
disturbed person EDP, which is the NYPD shorthand for it
is a call that cops get a lot, and it's
not an easy call if people don't even realize. Mark,
Sometimes a copp will show up and someone is suicidal,
whether they're gonna jump or they're gonna you know, take
their own life with a firearm. Sometimes they decide they're
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gonna take somebody with them right before they go. So
it's actually a very high stress and difficult situation, very
dangerous situation. And to your point, the notion that you
would just send a social worker to try to tell somebody, hey,
you know, get away from the edge of the bridge.
Sometimes they grab people and try to pull them off
the edge of the bridge with them. So you know,
this is what the cops have to deal with on
unfortunately a far through regular basis. So we got the
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Mamdani situation playing out here. Cuomo and Sliwa, how much
of sleewish staying in mark? I know, you know Curtis
personally well a long time. We had him on the
show last week he made his case and we heard
him out on this. How much of what we're seeing
is just these two guys just can't stand each other,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Cuomo and Cuomo and Sleeve. There's real personal beef.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Yeah, nobody likes Cuomo. They all everybody voting for will
tell you how much they hate this guy. He did
so much damage to New York Is because they hate
this guy. But it's like, what was that Remember the
election in the New Orleans where the guy was in prison.
He just got out of prison with the worst guy
in the world. But he was running against David Duke.
So you had to vote for this ex con. But Curtis.
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I talked to Curtis earlier today. You know this thing
about getting out of the race a week ago. He
couldn't get out of the race if he wanted to.
He can't take his name off the ballot. And if
you look at the ballot, this is another problem. It's Mom,
Donnie and Curtis. Those are the two names at the
top of the ballot. Cuomo is eight spaces down. You
got to go hunt for him on the ballot. And
this whole thing is Culoma's fault. Had he been any
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good in the primary, he would have beaten Mom Donnie.
Cuomo was a total disaster in the primary, got wiped
out into debates, never campaigned, so he got us in
this position. Curtis has been offered all kinds of bribes
to get out. The largest was ten million.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
He told us that on the air last week. So
Buck asked a good like, let's pretend you've lived here
a long time. Let's say you wake up tomorrow morning. Uh,
and Mom Donnie goes and wins, and you wake up
on Wednesday, your thought is going to be.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
What, Uh, well, at least we stopped Quick Show to talk.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
You know, actually we don't want Mom Donnie to win.
But for us, it would probably be the best thing.
We'd have plenty to talk about every day. It'd be
like the pandemic. You know, I got my highest ratings
during the pandemic. Yeah, people were terrified. They'd listen every
day to know what was Hpso yeah, we'd have our
greatest ratings.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, insanity was so rare, as Buck knows, living in
the New York City apartments, Like everybody was losing their
minds and there were very few people speaking saying but
so if he wins, Buck asked a version of this question.
But I do think what would be your positive? Do
you buy in to buy argument that it helps in
the governor's race potentially that that Kathy hokeel would have
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an issue maybe with Elise Stephonic it hurts maybe nationally
in the House, in the Senate.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
If he wins.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
If Mamdanni, we wake up on Wednesday and he is
the is the elected mayor elect of New York City.
How do you been assessing?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, you're asolutely right. It's going to help everything, to
help the midterms, is gonna help Republicans to be great.
But we'll get wiped out. But it's like your whole
house burns down, But it's good for the fire department's
helping them. But I would tell people we got through
eight years of Deblasio. It was bad, but we got
through it in one piece. And most of the Mamdanni
team they're ex Deblasio team, so it'd be a lot
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like Deblasio.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
What would you say, Mark, because you were willing. I
remember we talked when Eric Adams first came into office.
You're willing to give him a chance to do good
things for the city. What would be your you know,
a to f your grade? He dropped out of the race.
He knows he can't win, so he's not gonna be
mayor anymore. Eric Adams all in grade as mayor for
this city of New York.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Well, it's the problem is too Eric Adams. The first
three years total disaster. He brought in the worst people,
most of them got indicted, arrested.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It was horrible.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
He had some more police commissioners in three years than
we had in the last thirty. But then the final
year was great. He brought in Randy Mastro, who was
Giuliani's top guy at city Hall. He ran city Hall,
so he got best guy running city hall. He brought
in Jessica Tish, great police commissioner. In their first month,
she cleaned out all the corruption, got rid of twenty
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or thirty major people there. So the last year he
gets an A plus, but the first three years he
gets a total F. So I don't know how he
agreed that if he had done that year two, he
would still be mayor today.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
By the way, this is a bit funny, but Greg
Abbott just tweeted Buck after the polls close tomorrow night,
I will impose a one tariff on anyone moving to
Texas from New York City. So look, I mean where
Buck is out in Florida, where I am in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think there's gonna be d to Texas where the
Governor Abbitt is. I think there's gonna be a lot
of New Yorker saying heck, I'm gonna get screwed here.
Why am I paying fourteen percent State income tax when
places like Tennessee, Texas and Florida have none, and heck,
buck may not even have property taxes. Soon they're talking
about doing away with them completely in Florida, which is
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just another sales point.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
We should just make him emperor, just Santis to Florida forever.
You know, it's just a governor. It's okay.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Just make him emperor just Stantis to Florida would be fabulous. Mark.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
We'll have to check in with you and see how
this all goes tomorrow, but thank you for sharing the expertise.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Always appreciate your perspective.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
All right, thanks for the great show every day.
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Speaker 2 (30:53):
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
It is election eve in New York City, in New Jersey,
in Virginia, vote vote, vote New Jersey potentially going to
come down to a razor's edge Virginia, particularly AG's race
razor edge as we speak, record potentially high turnout. We're
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going to talk to Ryan Gerdusky tomorrow Buck on the program,
which will be election day. But he tweeted yesterday. We
very well may be hitting more than two million votes
by Tuesday night in New York City, the biggest mayoral
election in New.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
York City history.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
So it makes it a little bit difficult to know
exactly what is going to happen, because, as you just
heard Mark Simone talking with us, when you get into
record high turnout, motivation is high, there are a lot
of people that haven't been polled, a lot of people, frankly,
that have not voted before. We've seen this in nationwide elections.
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Trump brought out a lot of people, frankly, that we
didn't even know we're going to vote. The same thing
happened with Barack Obama. When you go back to that
election twenty twenty, Joe Biden brought out a lot of
people that may not even exist. Because I think more
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and more even Democrats are looking at the eighty one
million votes and they're.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Saying, really, really eighty one million, But.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We want all of you to get out and vote
New York, New Jersey, New York City, New Jersey, and Virginia,
and we will be breaking down all of that.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Eight hundred and two to two eight a two. You
can react to that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I want to say something off the top here, Buck,
as we are looking at these numbers you were talking about.
You're talking about New York the Halloween, and there are
tons of videos that are going viral of the so called,
you know, sort of Halloween porch pirates on Friday, the
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number of people that left out treats. This happened even
in my own neighborhood. Some My wife was showing me
some of these videos and kids, a lot of times
teenagers frankly, who sometimes make, as all of you well remember,
moronic decisions, but also parents that are involved. Here and
right off the top, we had our last Halloween in
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the Travis house. We have been in the same house
for a decade. I just posted a photo gave out
seventeen bottles of fireball shots to all the moms and
dads the neighborhood that we lived in in Franklin, Tennessee.
I can say it now, I think I don't know
that I ever said it before.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
West Haven.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You've been there, Buck, one of the greatest neighborhoods I
think in the entirety of the United States. After a decade,
are moving not going to do Halloween there anymore. But
Halloween has been phenomenal, thanks to everybody who has been
so great to my family for over a decade of
living there. Super sad yesterday when I left, because you know,
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you raise your family in a house, at some point
you're going to be in this experience. You got a
six month old we moved into that house. My youngest
was in in a crib. He now is in fifth grade.
So it's just been in a tremendous experience there. I
would describe where I lived as, generally speaking, a high
trust community where everybody looks after everybody else's kids and
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it's a fantastic place to live as a result, and
everybody comes around and mostly with the parents, you take
one little piece of candy at a time. But as
you see all of these different stories about these ring
cameras and everybody coming along and just dumping the entire
thing into their bag. I do think this is culture, buck,
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and when you lose culture, you lose the country. And
it might sound small, but I do think it's a
metaphor of a low trust society that unfortunately exists in
much of America now.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But we're just talking about the circulation of videos all
over the country. Remember these are usually with parents present.
That's the part. That's the part that I think is signiful.
So there are parents who are watching their kids. Now,
now let's like work through this process for a second.
They're watching their children maybe you know, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
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It's really not like young kids.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
That are doing this.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's not five year olds. It's you know, ten, eleven, twelve,
thirteen year olds, maybe fourteen year olds that are just
pillaging the take one piece of candy for yourself. Why
is that the rule or why is that the request
so that other people.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Can get their candy? Right?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's very and also you see these kids, it's not
like they're taking a handful and we're saying, oh, they're
only supposed to take one, okay, a handful, spine, No
one's got a problem with that. There are videos with
parents watching, okay, the parents of these kids where they
take like the candy bull and they jump the whole thing, yes,
you know.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Five pounds of candy.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
They dump it into their bag and they're kind of
laughing and gleeful about this and then they you know,
hurriedly walk away and it's just a disgrace. It's disgusting,
and you know, this is one of these things. You
see what you see? You know, we're in this era
where there's video of that over the place and everywhere
of everything, and uh, you know, people, we should bring
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back shame a little bit in this country. Like if
you're doing this stuff and people know and your neighbors know,
like you should feel ashamed. I agree, it should be shamed.
You should apologize. You know, there's all these I remember
even near me where there was all the theft going
on Clay there was a grocery store near me that
had the photos of the of the repeat shoplifters and
there have been efforts to sue them.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
How dare you and you know you're not allowed to
show this. It's like, why are people okay with it?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
This is this should be something that we all are
clearly against and it's just a shame that it's something
that should be as joyful and innocent as you know
Halloween trick or treating. There are people who are being
really gross about the whole thing, A lot of them
by it. If this isn't like one person, there's a
lot of this going on, No, I think totally.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
And people can say, wow, what's the significance you know
of this. I do think it is representative of low
trust in culture. And I talked about in Chicago, dad
and daughter going out trick or treating. Dad pulls up
in a car and instantly the car gets stolen. Somebody
runs up with a gun, puts it in his face,
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just trying to take the little girl out trick or treating.
And I do think that what you will see likely
occur is the parents that are allowing this to happen,
and even encouraging it to happen, have raised kids that
are going to have a lot of issues in the
years ahead because they have lost the ability to interact
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in an honest culture. And to your point, teenagers do
stupid things, and so to me, the parents watching it
and even encouraging it is a substantial part of this.
But I think it speaks also to and I know
there are strict moms, but we had a big conversation
about this. I think it speaks also to a lot
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of times dads are enforcers in households. You know, particularly
young men boys, they respond to dad as a household
influencer more than they do to mom. That doesn't mean
that moms out there aren't often forced to do incredible
job both raising, trying to play the role of both
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parents because a lot of men are absent. But this
reminds me Buck of do you remember the big study
they did. This is why I think it would be
true if you could run out for years. One of
the best signs of your ability to succeed in life
is can you defer rewards?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
And they have that great is the like either it's
a donut or a cookie. Marshmallows was the initial one
they tell you for those of you haven't seen this study,
and they actually have funny videos of this of little
kids trying to avoid a treat, right, and they basically
come in and they say, hey, if you can wait
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a certain amount of time, will give you two. And
so there's a treat on the table and it's sometimes
a cookie donut. I think it started with marshmallows, and
they'll be like, hey, little kid, if you can wait,
then we'll give you double.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And what they have been able to find is the
kids that are able to defer the reward have overwhelmingly
higher levels of success than the kids who take the
immediate gratification in front of them. And to me, this
is a sign of that, right. Hey, you're still gonna
get a lot of candy. I mean, my son came
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home with a a pillowcase full of candy. But you
have to put in the time to go from one
house to another, or you can run up and dump
the whole thing in at once. I think you're gonna
see that the life results are actually negative for the
kids that are doing this.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
There's also very clear, very clear data on delaying gratification
and IQ level.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
So now you start to get it to this part
of the conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Higher IQ corresponds directly with a greater likelihood to be
willing to delay gratification for better reward. So this is true.
Any of you can you can check this out. Dumber
people want it right now?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah? Just true? No, I mean, look and look.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
For being a parent, I would argue one of the
most important things you do as a parent is teach
your kids to play the long game. Get good grades
in school. Do you get immediate gratification because you make
good grades in school in eighth grade? Not necessarily do
you get immediate gratification for doing your homework every single night,
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for showing up at class, for taking tough courses, not immediately,
but you play the long game and overtime, good decisions
lead to better outcomes. And this is a big part,
you know, candidly, of what I wrote about. And I'm
asking you to go buy the book. To buy the
book Balls. It's all about how do we raise better, younger,
(41:29):
more successful men. And this is something that I spend
a lot of time thinking about. And when I saw
these videos of these porch pirates stealing all the candy,
I couldn't help but think there's a lot of absent dads,
I bet, and moms, but particularly dads when it comes
to bad behavior by kids. So you got to be shameless.
(41:52):
The book is out tomorrow. I asked you in the
first hour I'm gonna talk about it tomorrow. Can you
drive this to the top ten best sellers on Amazon.
That would mean a tremendous amount to me, all of
the proceeds going to charity. Just got to sell the
book is Balls. I'm holding it up on the video
feed from our New York City studio. You're gonna see
me all over Fox News selling this book. But it
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would mean a lot to me if you guys would
go buy a copy and give it to someone else.
Buy a copy for somebody that you think needs some
balls in their life either metaphorically speaking. Again, it's everywhere.
It's gonna be in every bookstore. My name Clay Travis.
The book is Balls. Please go buy it. Buck's gonna
have a book out uh in January. I'm told the
(42:39):
publisher is very happy I bought a copy of Balls.
I got Balls on the Way. You got Balls on
the Way? Is a roommate who loves Polish sausages. Told him, Hey,
you might as well add some balls to it too.
You know, I'm gonna throw this out there because I
didn't want to. I didn't want to start this once again,
because he actually is a real roommate from the Chicago area.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
He also was a robe guy, which maybe is not
surprised Polish.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Sauceage guy being a robe guy. I mean I think that,
you know.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I would just saying he also would walk around our
dorm room in a row or you know, our dorm
housing in a robe all the time. So Polish sausage
and robe they can go hand in hand, you never know.
By the way, we need to talk about this too.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I bet a lot of our listeners are caught up
in air traffic control. I'm just seeing Houston has told
people you may have a three hour wait to get
through TSAH Buck I traveled. I was trying to come
back from Chicago on Friday. This is if you're out
there and you're not a federal employee. I think some
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of the situations right now with delays has turned into
a crazy city. You know who I saw actually Sunday
as I was traveling to New York City, our friend Margo,
President Trump's top assistant.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I come right through security.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
She is awesome, does incredible behind the scenes work for
President Trump. She just got back from Asia and she
was at the Ohio State football game over the weekend.
And I come through security. It's TSA as kind of
a mess everywhere. Boom, Marco who does Marco Martin, who
does incredible work for President Trump? Right there in the
Nashville airport. But this is the lead story right now
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on CNN travel misery. As people are having issues with
TSA air traffic control. They shut down Nashville's airport on
Friday for several hours over this. This is where I
think a lot of people are starting to get very,
very frustrated. About the shut down because it starts to
impact their individual lives.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Monday at
yition of the program. I just took a picture of it,
so I have it on my phone. Buck Final New
York City mayoral poll from Atlas Intel. They have an
A plus rating in terms of they have been one
of the more reliable polls out there. Their final poll,
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Mom Donni forty four percent, Andrew Cuomo thirty nine percent,
Curtis Sliwa fifteen and a half percent. According to them,
without Sliwa in the race, Cuomo would be winning by
five points over Mam Donni. So we may well wake
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up on Wednesday as we talked last week with Curtis Sliwa,
and the results may be that if Sliwa had chosen
not to run or dropped out at some point and
endorsed Cuomo, Mom Donnie would have lost. But by dividing
potentially the vote totals now we will see. Because there
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are record amounts of turnout underway, it may be that
having double opponents has allowed mom Donnie a socialist at best,
communist at worst to take over.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Our nation's largest city.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Okay, some of you may be saying culturally the impact
I wanted to play this.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
This is Did you see this yet? Buck a Well?
Speaker 2 (47:30):
First, let me play was the woman in Los Angeles
area Gold Gym to confirm this is a video that
has gone very viral.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
A woman in.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
LA is a Gold Gym workout person. I guess a
customer would be one way of saying it of the
Gold gym.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
And she was kicked out.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Of Gold Gym and they ended her membership because she
complained about a man using the women's locker room in
the Gold's gym. We've had to edit it a bit,
but this has gone megaviral. Listen, gods zem Man broad Man.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
We're big and the women's locker role and that's why.
Speaker 5 (48:16):
I'm getting kicked out and I want to make short
of cross.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Now everybody saw that man in the locker role. No
one says and he's done with it. He's still day
and sang a n me making in front of a man.
But I'm might miss I'm turning that day for not
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running meg in the locker.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Room Okay, now you could hear she's a little fired up,
a little bit of salty language there. This has gone megaviral.
Someone recorded her complaining because she has been banned from
Gold's gym.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Not the man with as.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
You heard, male genitals in the women's locker room, but
this woman, black woman, to the extent that you care
about race, that is out there. She has now gone
viral for speaking out about this buck. I see it
connected here because this was the LA women's soccer team.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
So one of the women.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
At on the La angel City women's soccer team did
an article for the New York Post saying we need
to have men out of women's sports. It's a professional
soccer player. New York Post ran it the angel FC.
Also in Los Angeles, players said that the women's soccer
(49:41):
player who said women's soccer should only be made up
of women said that she was racist and transphobic their teammate.
They had a press conference to respond to it. This
is cut twenty eight. We pulled some of the cut.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
That article does not speak for this team in this
locker room. I've had a lot of combos with my
teammates in the past few days and they are hurt
and they are harmed by the article, and also they
are disgusted by some of the things that were said
in the article, and it's really important for me to
say that. And we don't agree with the things written
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for a plethora of reasons, but mostly the undertones come
across as transphobic and racist as well. The article calls
for genetic testing on certain players, and it has a
photo of an African player as a headline, and that's
very harmful and to me, it's inherently racist because to
single out this community based on them looking or being
(50:37):
different is absolutely a problem. And as a mixed woman
with a black family, I'm devastated by the undertones of
this article.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I saw this last night book and I couldn't. I
watched the whole press conference. The racist part of this
article is they took a photo of Castor Semina, who
is a man that has been winning women's biologically male
has been winning women's races, happens to be from Africa,
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but is a sign of a man competing in women
winning women's championships. The New York Post the picture, the author,
the women's soccer player who wrote this piece, which I
think is actually brave. I can't believe we need to
do it, but I mean to speak out and call
her racist and transphobic for saying, hey, we need to
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have rules in place to ensure that men can't compete
in women's professional soccer. This is the same city where
this woman is going viral for saying, hey, how am
I getting canceled in golds gym? This is a real
thing the Democrats are in favor of, including Abigail Spanberger,
who is running for governor in Virginia.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
You know, why do they test for steroids in men's sports?
You know why you're not necessarily better just because you're
hitting the juice real hard? And you know, I mean,
you can make a lot of these same arguments for that, like, well,
is it really unfair? Don't you still have to do
the things you're doing. It's not proven that every person
who takes steroids is going to be so much stronger
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than other people who don't.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I'm sure there are some people on steroids.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
It just all sounds like nonsense, doesn't And by the way,
somebody should write book called Balls where they discuss many
at these controversies, A lot a lot about this Clay.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
This is one of the surprises that many of us
have after this last election. The Democrats are not backing
off this at all. They are continuing to push for this,
and I start to think that the only way that
maybe we start to get beyond this is we're going
to have to start recruiting guys in all these different sports,
I agree, who will do the bare minimum, the bare
(52:53):
minimum required to say that they are trans and then
they will have to defeat women's professionals sports teams by
like one hundred to zero, which is what would actually
happen if you got as you know, you actually got,
if you actually got male athletes in these sports.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
They don't have to be pro level, but they just
have to be good.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yep, you know, if you've got if you had a team,
if you had teams of D one level men for
these different team sports trying to play against these women's
pro teams, they would absolutely annihilate them and it wouldn't
even be close.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
And if they.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Do that enough, if there's a team of quote trends
women that goes undefeated and wins every soccer game ten nothing,
would then they start to or would they?
Speaker 3 (53:39):
I don't know. By the way, maybe that wouldn't be
enough play. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
I start to think that this is such a it's
a little bit like the climate change thing. It's become
such a religious belief for people that they will not
move their thinking on the subject whatsoever. It does not
matter what reality is presented to them, or how much
reality is presented to them.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
They just don't care.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
I look, I don't I don't understand how it has
become the party, the position of the Democrat Party, that
men should be able to walk around in women's locker
room with you know, full male genitalia and still be
claiming that they are women. And to your point, Buck,
(54:24):
I have offered to pay a man to identify as
a woman and go play in the WNBA. Maybe I
need to expand it to the National Women's Soccer League.
So if you are out there listening right now and
you are a talented male soccer player, to Buck's point,
let's say you play D one men's soccer and you
want to identify as a woman and try to make
(54:46):
a women's pro soccer team. I think we have to
just call out the absurdity of these arguments. It's not racist,
it's not transphobic, it's not sexist. There's just a real
biological difference here. So if you are a male se
soccer player and you are listening to us right now,
d one, I would encourage you to go to open
(55:06):
tryouts if you make a women's soccer team, or they
ban you, just say you identify as a woman.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
If you make a women's.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Soccer team, I'll pay you one hundred grand challenge out
there for every men's every man listening to us right now,
I want one of you out there to try to
make a women's pro soccer team. Just tell them if
they question you, hey, I identify as a woman, and
I want you to make the team because if they
(55:37):
don't have this rule in place, it would be transphobic
for them to stop you from being able to become
a male identifying as a woman professional athlete. And I
think you might be able to score fifty goals in
a year. And maybe this is what needs to happen
in the National Women's Soccer League. Because again, this is
angel FC. I think they're called. This is Bob Iger,
(56:01):
the CEO of Disney owns this team. Buck, did you
know that the ceo of Disney, Bob Iiger that owns ESPN,
he and his wife own this LA soccer team that
just said it's transphobic and racist for one of their
players to say men shouldn't be able to play women's sports.
I'm putting one hundred grand on the table for all
(56:24):
male soccer players out there. Figure out how to make
a team. If you make it, If you make a
team and play in a game, I'll give you one
hundred grand, which is probably more than a lot of
the females, more than they make, more than the women's
average soccer player makes. I will give you one hundred
grand my own money if you are a man listening
to us right now, and you can make a national
(56:45):
women's soccer League team.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I really do wonder what is the basis in some
of these leagues currently. If you say you're what I'm saying, Yeah,
you know, and you and I have some facial hair going.
If I just showed up, if I didn't do the
thing where I get like super fake long nails and
grow my hair out long, or get a wig and
put a bunch of rouge on my cheeks or whatever, like,
(57:09):
if I just show up and say I'm actually a chick.
Do they have to let me try out?
Speaker 3 (57:16):
It'd be transphoted.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
I mean, who gets I mean, who gets to make
the determination of I mean, if the guy's walking around
in the golds gym in LA and he's got what's
the phrase that we can u he's got a penis.
Speaker 3 (57:29):
I'm trying to think of the word, right, male equipment,
mail equipment.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
He's got the he's got the carrot and the broccoli,
and he's just walking around like it's pretty clear that
he's a dude. I'm just I think the penis and
the balls are undefeated in terms of male genitalia. Uh,
it's defining the gender. Although you know they like to
argue now that sometimes doctors at birth get it wrong.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I was there for three berths when they held the
baby up, I was like, hey, I got a pretty
good sense of what gender I've got.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
I've always thought it's interesting too that they they they
explicitly deny that this is about intersex formally called hermaphrodite individuals,
which is a very rare genetic.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
Unfortunately, very rare. Yes, very rare.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
But it's not that it's never about that, because then
you could you can deal with that biologically by the way,
they're generally much more male or much more female. It
just has to do with the sex organs. But actually
the res you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Historically they would have defined as one way or the other.
Before we had gender testing, they would have just decided, hey,
and it's unfortunate, but it's highly irregular that you basically
have almost uh you know, like Klein syndrome of Kleinfelter
or something like that. I think, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
But that is not this is this is this is
truly I say, therefore I am is the basis of this.
And also they don't want to get into hormone stuff
either play because well, hold on a second, why if
you have to take hormones to make you the thing that,
how are you affirming that you're transforming? You're not affirming, right,
(59:12):
So that's what has to be a psychological thing. It
can't be that your biochemistry is changed and therefore you
are because you're altering your biochemistry. So there's clearly a
physical basis for this, Like why do you have to
do that to be a woman? If you only have
to say you're a woman and then you're a woman.
It's it is the height of crazy. But here we are,
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