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December 3, 2025 60 mins

Clay Travis & Buck Sexton dive into the aftermath of Tennessee’s 7th Congressional District special election, where Republican Matt Van Epps secured a decisive nine-point victory over Democrat Afton Bain. Clay and Buck break down why this off-calendar election mattered, emphasizing low turnout—roughly half of a typical congressional race—and how Democrats hoped to flip a Trump-leaning district but failed. The hosts credit grassroots awareness and strong support from President Donald Trump and Speaker Mike Johnson for the win, reinforcing a key takeaway: “Running with Trump is how you win.” Van Epps himself echoed this sentiment in his victory speech, signaling the GOP’s strategy heading into 2026.

The discussion also explores voter behavior in special elections, contrasting Republican voters’ busy family lives with Democrats’ identity-driven activism. Clay shares personal insights on living in Williamson County, Tennessee, and why he refuses to support Davidson County after its COVID policies. Buck adds humor about avoiding a “communist dystopia” in Clay’s district, while callers from Alabama, Florida, and Michigan weigh in on the race’s significance and the broader political landscape, including battleground states like Michigan.

Congressman Jim Jordan joins the show, he outlines the GOP’s legislative priorities before the 2026 campaign season kicks into high gear. Jordan emphasizes healthcare reform focused on choice and competition, rejecting expanded Obamacare subsidies, and highlights the need for tax cuts and regulatory reform to combat lingering inflation. He warns that despite progress under President Trump, prices remain painfully high for everyday Americans—a reality that could shape the 2026 midterm elections. Jordan also stresses the importance of passing a real budget, avoiding endless continuing resolutions, and protecting civil liberties during the upcoming FISA reauthorization, citing alarming revelations about government surveillance.

Then the hosts tackle a major controversy in Minnesota—President Trump’s fiery remarks on the Somali fraud scandal, where scammers allegedly billed for 125 million fake meals under a child-feeding program, siphoning off billions in taxpayer funds. Clay and Buck dissect the cultural and political implications, questioning whether fear of appearing “xenophobic” allowed systemic fraud to flourish. They draw parallels to the UK’s grooming gang scandals and debate assimilation challenges, spotlighting cases where defendants cite Somali cultural norms as a defense in U.S. courts. This segment raises urgent questions about immigration policy, law enforcement, and cultural accountability.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in the Kalay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate
all of you, especially those of you who heard the
clarion call to show up yesterday in the final election
of twenty twenty five in Tennessee's seventh congressional district, where

(00:21):
you guys got out the vote and comfortably helped Matt
Van Ebbs become my congressman. He won by a round
nine point in a frankly turnout that was roughly half
of what typically happens in congressional races. This was You're

(00:43):
going to hear a lot of spin, although it seems
to me that they have already kind of dropped this
story in the legacy media and as a result, they
are not paying a lot of attention to this because
the result was a very comfortable win for Matt Van
Epps nine points. They initially tried to say, well, Trump

(01:04):
won this district by twenty two points in twenty twenty four,
and yeah, that's true. Way less people showed up to vote.
The Democrat crazy Bass shows up to vote in all
of these special elections. This was their best opportunity to
get a steal in this seat, and they lost by

(01:26):
nine points. So congrats to Matt Van Epps. It took
a lot of efforts to make people aware that this
race was happening. Yesterday, in the middle of the holiday season,
the week after Thanksgiving. We had him on this show twice,
President Trump, Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. They all
got out, and I want to say thank you to

(01:48):
everybody who showed up for this race, and frankly, Buck,
I think there are a lot of people out there
who would have been voting Van Epps that still had
no idea this race was taking place because it was
a December election, the week after Thanksgiving special election. New
congressional districts just very difficult to mobilize. This was the

(02:11):
best case scenario for the Democrat Party. I watched the
results come in. I celebrated by kicking back and finishing
the first four episodes of season five of Stranger Things
with the Travis Boyce. It was a fun night in
the Travis household. That's how we celebrated Buck.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm of two minds on this, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
On the one hand, yes, of course, this is a
Republican win, good for the country. Afton Bane was clearly
a lunatic, and the good guys won this round. That's
all true, and it's important for the midterms that they
didn't get some crazy, off off year special election win

(02:55):
that they could turn into. All of that is true,
But there's a little part of me that is sad,
a little part of me that has had to sit
here while you have thrown all sorts of calumnies. Is
that the right word at New York City for Mom
Donnie's win. And I was going to have some fun
with the fact that your district might have been full commie.

(03:17):
There perhaps could have been breadlines outside of peg Leg Porker,
my favorite Nashville barbecue. There would have been girls on
those outdoor bar bicycle things, singing the Soviet national anthem
and drinking nothing but cheap vodka, because that's how the
motherland of the Soviet Union would have wanted it. So

(03:38):
on the one hand, yes, Clay, the good guys won.
On the other hand, the opportunity for all of us
to troll you for living in a communist dystopia district
is now gone. So I just wanted to be honest
about that.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I am so glad that I don't have to worry
about having this crazy chick representing me apt in Baine.
She got kicked to the curb, and I do think
so you know, she's going to be tweeting at you
and all the daily wire guys, and the trolling that
you were going to have to endure would have just
been very difficult.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
The cope now and my mentions the cope now is well,
this is a crazy right wing district where racists like
Clay Travis lived.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It's really hard to win.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And let me just tell you, thank the ward that
I live where I do. I live in Williamson County, Tennessee,
God's country. I am never leaving for the rest of
my life. I am living right here in this county.
I think I've said this on the air before, Buck,
I don't know if I I think I've told you.
I don't know if I've said it on the air
after COVID. I told my wife, I said, you know,

(04:49):
we've been picking a new place to live in the
area because the boys are getting bigger and we want
to be a little bit closer to their school. All
those things, I said, you can find us a I said,
I will not live in Davidson County. That is Nashville's
Davidson County, where I was born and raised, because I'm
still so angry of how they handled COVID. I said,

(05:10):
you know, look, it's a small thing, but I will
not give them property tax dollars because I am so
angry about the choices they made during COVID. So Williamson County,
which is for those of you who know the Nashville area, Brentwood, Franklin,
it is the greatest place I think anywhere in the country.
I do not ever want to leave here. And when
you looked at the results, Williamson County showed up for

(05:33):
Matt Van Epps in big numbers. And I do think
this is an important story going forward, Buck because the
nation may be saying, Okay, this race is over.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
What we learn one.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
You got to run towards Trump. You cannot run away
from him. I mean, this is the story.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
This is what this is what Congressman elect Van Epps
just said, this is cut one. Listen to him say it, cutwall.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And with President Donald J.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Trump and stood firmly behind our campaign, I am humbled
beyond belief to stand before you tonight.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
As your next representative.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I say this to my friends in the liberal media
and to the professional panickers and my own party tonight
we showed running from Trump is how you lose, Running
with Trump is how you win.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Look, I think it's going to be a big decision
in twenty six and I am super optimistic, as we
have talked about on this program that the economy is
going to be very good by the summer, and that
is going to be ultimately I believe, the deciding factor
in many of these different races out there. But there
are going to be a lot of people who have
to make decisions about how to win without Trump on

(06:52):
the ballot. And Donald Trump is never going to be
on the ballot again for the rest of our lives.
There are a lot of people who show up to
Supper Trump that do not show up in races when
Trump's not on the ballot. So I am cautiously optimistic
for twenty six. But I do think one of the
lessons of what happened here was Trump is doing a

(07:13):
good job. You cannot run away from him, and you
absolutely positively need to motivate the base that is the
Republican Party because there's a lot of non traditional voters
and this is going to be true. All these off
year elections. To the extent that people are out there listening,
I would really implore if you're a Republican in Congress,
I get that you may be unhappy, or there may

(07:36):
be life related concerns. I don't understand why you would
leave and force an off year election or an off
calendar election. At this point, please stay. The opportunity here
was created because my Congressman Mark Green decided to step down.
The only way these people win in Trump districts is

(08:00):
by relying on these off calendar elections. When the crazy
Democrat voters show up, they're more loyal. They just are and.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Loyal.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
They have less to do. They tend not to have
jobs and families the same way that our voters do.
You know, they're sitting around without a whole lot on
the calendar except dyeing their hair purple and talking about
fascism in Trump's America.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So yes, they show up. I'm not sure it's a loyalty.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Our people are busy picking the kids up from uh well,
I think soccer press probably. But maybe what I say loyal,
I mean their political belief is all that defines them.
I think we're saying somewhat similar things. If you're a
Trump voter, there's a lot of things going on in
your life. You're probably religious, you're committed to a church.
You probably have a family. You're obligated to be running

(08:56):
your kids or your grandkids all over the place. There
are a lot of people for whom the Democrat Party
has become their sun, moon and stars. It's their religion,
it's their life, it's their entire value system. It is
something that fundamentally defines them.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
It gives them identity. Yeah, that is, that is who
they are. And that's why they're so annoying about it.
When you were sitting next to them at any kind
of a function, or if they figure out what you
or I do, for example, they want to start telling
us what's really going on. Let me tell you a thing, sir.
I mean, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
When I went and voted yesterday, it was cold. You know,
it's thirty five degrees, like the worst weather that Nashville
can have. Yeah, that down here in South Florida, Pepes,
none of that. The best thing about when I lived
in the in the in the Caribbean for a couple
of years, when I was a young kid, when you
watch bad weather other places and you live in great weather,

(09:52):
You're just like, why do people do this? You know,
you're already doing it all, you Miami people. You sit
in here, warm, in your perfect weather, and you're like,
why would you be a place where it snows. You know,
you're watching a football game on television, or you're watching
the weather reports, and you're just like, what a crazy
idea that these people have to just go sit in
the cold. The aften Bane supporters buck old women. It

(10:16):
was super cold. They were standing outside on the street
for hours, no cover with aften Baine signs. And I'm
not talking I mean these are not like twenty year
old college kids. This is like seventy five year old women.
Their entire life purpose is the Democrat Party. And I

(10:37):
think there are a lot of other men that they
have grabbed, that they have captivated as your life's purpose
is to show up and do this work for the
Democrat Party, and that those people show up in these
special elections in a way that I would say, quote
unquote people with lives.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah do not necessarily well.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
This is also why being being a Democrat means, and
I'm talking about going back for decades never having to
address personal accountability. Being a Democrat means that you can
have this whole system that will justify choices you made
based on convenience, based on emotion, based on how it
made you feel at the time. I would argue that

(11:18):
the central ethos of the Democrat party runs contrary to
the wisdom that you accrue from life. And so if
you are a woman in your sixties or your seventies
who has always, always, always voted Democrat, it is in fact,
in some ways more important than ever that you perpetuate
that system, because the moment you start to question it,

(11:39):
you question a lot of things that you have thought
and done in your life previously.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm weird in this way, probably many ways. Many of
you out there are going to say, I'm willing to
accept that I could be wrong about everything, And I.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, maybe it's partly legal training, maybe partly it's
just a willingness to accept and acknowledge larger questions out there.
I think a lot of our listeners are I think
a lot of our listeners are in that camp.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And with age comes wisdom.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
And I don't you know when there's a twenty year
old running around who has an opinion. I tend to
think and hope that as they have life experience, they
will become more educated. You have kids, you have different experiences.
You become a grandparent, you have different experiences.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But you're right.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think a lot of these crazy left wing people,
they're so committed to it being their identity how they
vote that if they ever examined that even the party
that they vote for is no longer the party of
the nineteen eighties or the nineteen nineties, it would require
them to revoke much of their entire life's work, and
they're unwilling to have that realization.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
A lot of things that they have believed for a
long time would start to crumble before their eyes.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
So that's why they're like at in.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Pain Free Palestine claimate change is an existential.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Threat, because if they stopped the hysteria, they would look
around and they'd have to think. I really wasn't very
nice to people who were important in my life at
different times. I really didn't think about others. I really
didn't put my country or my community first in any
meaningful way. I just pretended and voted for these silly commies.
That's my view of it at least. All right, Look

(13:23):
last night, I you know, Clay, I'm a modest guy,
but I got to tell everybody about this one. I
was all cozy on the couch, and I mean I
was in a great spot. I had Ginger next to me,
Speed had already gone to sleep, and I'm sitting there,
I'm drinking my tea and I've just got this wonderful
blanket from Cozy Earth that is wrapped around my legs.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It is pretty bubble. And my wife did South Florida,
this is that you got? Your air conditioning was going on. Yeah,
I was gonna say, the air conditioning is very strong here.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
So my my.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Beautiful wife is also on the couch and she has
some flimsy I'm just gonna say it, some flim kind
of sad blanket, sad exclamation point blanket on her feet.
And I don't even know where this thing came from.
You know what I did, I said, honey, we can share.
So we shared our Cozy Earth blanket and it was great.
Let me tell you, it's big, it's warm, it's the

(14:16):
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(14:38):
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Speaker 1 (15:50):
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family a very merry Christmas and a.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Happy New Year.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. It's not a little
bit of fun here. We'll get some of your calls
here momentarily. But Buck, I saw this stat this morning
as I surveyed the landscape of the stock market. American

(16:20):
Eagle Outfitters. You remember when American Eagle was in the
news back in the summer when they brought Sydney Sweeney
the Buxom I think is the way that you described
her Bucks some glass into their into their advertising world.
They did the great Jeens commercial. For those of you

(16:40):
out there that have forgotten about this, I do think
culturally this is significant. It's just a pretty girl wearing jeans.
They sold out of the jeans. But then she said
she people. That's the craziest part. The people on the
left said, well, this is Nazi eugenics. You know, how
can a blonde, blue eyed girl that she has great genes?

(17:01):
They had the big discussion all through left wing media.
American Eagle stock is soaring to again today buck after
they beat earnings estimates. They now have gone up over
over three dollars today. If you bought the stock the
day the ad campaign began, stock is up one hundred

(17:26):
and twenty percent, you would have more than doubled your money.
If you had simply seen a Buck some some lass
in a genes commercial that was being criticized and thought,
you know what, I think America might respond well to
a pretty girl selling blue jeans. And guess what, America
has responded quite well to it. I think what you're

(17:48):
seeing and people say, okay, well why does this matter?
We were so lied to when you were walking through
them all and you saw a fat androgynous chick in
a broad and a panty in the window at Victoria's Secret,
and you thought to yourself, boy, I don't know that
you know, I want to buy underwear when the model

(18:10):
looks like Clay Travis might as well have a beard
and a broad and panties on. I don't know that
that's really gonna make a lot of sense. But they
tried to slam this home through the culture. Advertising agencies
are among the wokest of all brands in the entire world.
They try to make you think that the world looks

(18:33):
differently than it does, and that you should like things
that you don't. It's all going up in flames, all
of it. And I thought that anyway, as I'm watching
that stock price sore, I did think it was super
interesting in that respect. We got a bunch of people
who went to weigh in Carmen in Florida. Let's take

(18:53):
some of your calls, Carmen, what you got for us?

Speaker 8 (18:56):
How you doing, guys? Listen, this is my take on it.
I'm so glad that Van Juan as for the Republicans,
because it had been the other the Democrat AOC would
have would have thought that her, you know, her movement,
her socialist movement, would have been the way to go validated,

(19:16):
you know. And not only that, because she was so
successful with Mandana and she thought that she can do
the same with this with this Democrat lady. And I
just think that that would have blown her head even more. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Look, I think in general, when you start to look
through all of all of the arguments that are going
to be out there, what you're going to see is
what works in New York City in LA. And this
should be common sense, but for a lot of Democrats,
it's not. What works in New York City and in
LA is not going to work in the same way

(19:52):
in the larger, you know, the battleground states. I was
looking at numbers coming out of Michigan, for instance. I
think we got a real shot in Michigan of flipping
the governor's seat and the Senate seat there. Remember Trump
won Michigan by a relatively small, you know, tight margin.
But there are big battleground states out there that I

(20:15):
think the idea of Mom Donnie and this crazy after
bainchick are not going to pan out. Tom in Tampa.
What you got for us?

Speaker 9 (20:25):
Hey, First, I do want to talk about that. I'm
so happy about David kaya Wibson carry so boring, But
I do want to give you a free plug for
the audio book Falls. Okay, I not only got my copy,
but a former salesmaner my best friend, used to draw
the balls up on the easel, and I got him
one for Christmas. So Joe, this one's for you. Clay.

(20:48):
On the election, obviously, praise God for you for what
you did and everything. But I have to also say
I am totally shocked that that spread was only nine points.
I'm sitting there saying like I've spent a lot of
time in Davids the county wins the county even though
I'm in Tampa. Like that, that's where it should have

(21:10):
been twenty five thirty points. And also, one last thing
on balls. You and I have the same grandfather. Mine
came through Als Island, So I'll listen to you.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
So you you have family members calling in now, Clay,
This makes.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Sense given I don't know how we have the same
grandfather here, but but I appreciate Tom and Tampa.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I don't have any runnings. I thought he was a
member of your family. Before he even said the part
about genealogy, that guy looks, what do you.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
What are you saying?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
How do we have the same grandfather? Tom, I didn't
know I had any relatives in Tampa.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
The same grandfather has to do with people have to
get your audio book to understand.

Speaker 10 (21:45):
Your dynamic about about grandparents and just so you know,
I stay up at night worrying about the birth rate
just like you do.

Speaker 11 (21:58):
If I had a critique of Ball, if B had
a critique, it would only be because I know, because
of demographics, the people buy the most crap in their life,
the most luxury crap of their life between forty eight
and fifty eight, and without without a birth rate to
support that, guess what, we're screwed. So I am totally
on point with you get.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Balls, thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Not an actual relative there, Buck, I was like trying
to figure out what exactly was the poy. But yes,
look the book by the way, you can get it
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(22:41):
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revel there, Nancy and Michigan. Nancy, what you got for us?

Speaker 8 (23:05):
Oh hey, guys, congratulations on Tennessee.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
It's awesome.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
But I was listening last week. I wasn't able to
get through. Well this, this guy from New York called
and he was dis and Trump because he's trying to
get along with the commy mayor elect.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Well, you know, it's all about keeping your friends close
and your enemies closer.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
And people should not give up on Trump that quick.
He knows what he's doing.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
You gotta trust the guy.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
You know, he's incredible what he does.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Well, we were saying this too, and this is this
is Buck speaking from the New Yorker perspective, or I
guess former New Yorker. Now, there was no upside for
Trump being groff.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Were rude? Mom.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Donnie hasn't done anything other than run a campaign. Where
he said, you know, and said some things in the
past that Trump disagrees with. But Trump's approach of hey,
if you want to be more reasonable than people expect,
you know, we're willing to meet you on some of
the issues where you're going to be reasonable. Yeah, maybe, mom,
Donnie forgets all that and acts like the lunatic we

(24:07):
think he'll be. But at least Trump gave him the opportunity.
At least Trump's at least Trump was willing to be
the bigger man and say to him, if you want
to be a good mayor, we're here for you. And
I think that's absolutely the approach. What's the alternative Trump
looking like some petulant child.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I can't believe you won.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
You're terrible. This is the White House, he's the president.
He did exactly the right thing.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think once they made the decision to have the
face to face meeting. If Trump wanted to continue to
snipe and go back and forth, I think he would
have not done the meeting, if that makes sense. Once
you're gonna be face to face in the White House,
I don't think you win substantially by having that battle
in public in that same way. If that makes sense

(24:49):
by the way eight hundred and two two two eight
a two uh we uh will continue to take some
of your calls during the course of the program.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I want to know why sometimes I legitimately get curious,
you know, you guys who want to get on the
air anytime that you leave us with a little bit
of a tease. Like I just was told here that
someone wants to pull my man card. I'm like, what
what did I do? This is truck driver Steve. We
love our truckers. You guys are with us three hours
a day, a lot of you all across this country.
Truck driver Steve Clay, this is CC, says he's pulling

(25:19):
my man card. I don't even know what I did yet,
play CC, big guy's truck driver Steve.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Here, you know we might have to seriously consider pulling
bucks mancrud. I mean the drinking tea thing, giving the
wife the blanket for her feet.

Speaker 10 (25:33):
Come on, dude, give me drinking a beer and putting
the empty beer box on her feet.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'd tell you, truck driver Steve, happy carry means a
happy everybody around here. If I got if, I gotta
give her the blanket. I gotta, you know, give her
a foot rub whatever, wife he needs. Wife, he gets okay.
By fact there's no man card getting pulled over that one.
The fact that you have got the air conditioner turned
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watching the show.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Is it's a little bit of a taunt on the
rest of America right now, which is dealing with snowpocalyps
all over. When we have a nor'easter, I think with
the ac indoors here in South Florida, sometimes it'll get
to sixty eight or sixty nine degrees and.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's just ooh, it's chilli.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna be down next week. I'm not gonna lie.
I'm looking. I'm looking forward to South.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Wearing flip flops appropriately next week instead of having his
toes turn blue.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
In Tennessee, So I.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Went down to get my newspaper this morning and my
flip flops, and uh, but it was cool.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
It was cold.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I don't wake you. I'll wake you up in the morning.
I'm the only person who's still get I'm living in
fear Buck. Every time I opened my email that they're
gonna stop delivering print newspapers. This is I moved to
a new location here and I had to switch and
I was like, Oh, my goodness, are they still gonna
be able to get my newspapers here or not? And Uh,
that's got me a little bit nervous.

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Speaker 3 (29:17):
Second Hour Playing Buck kicks off now. Thanks for being here, everybody,
and we're gonna probably probably be joined by Congress.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And Jim Jordan here in a few moments. Oh, we
already got him.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I was about to dive into the Minnesota Somali fraud story,
but Congress and Jordan, it's Buck, it's play.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Appreciate you being with us, sir.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Good to be with you guys. Thanks Lly to Buck. Congratulations, Congratulations,
I've seen the athletic prowess one hundred miles per hour,
serve that you are championing and putting out there for
the entire planet to view. So I stand corrected. I've
seen it now multiple times.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
You're you're, you're a big man to come on the
air admit that you were among the doubters.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
There were some doubters out there.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Jim was very supportive of me and General Clay, but
a doubter. And it was one hundred and three miles
an hour. But you know who's counting. So I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Especially yeah, yeah, from.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Somebody with with the athletic background that you have, being
like a state champion wrestler, I appreciate that. Easier for
people to judge a lot of people in the cheap
seat saying, hey, middle aged guy, buck, stay with call
of duty. I still got some juice in this arm.
I still got some juice in this arm. All right, Congressman,
thank you, thank.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
You for that. You're you're a good man. Now tell
us what are you guys in the Congress.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
While you still have the majority, Let's hope that continues
for well through the rest of US administration and beyond.
What are you trying to get done by the end
of this this session, because it's coming upon us very quickly.
What's top of the agenda.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Well, I do think, you know, because the Democrats raise
this issue, they shut that the government down, you know,
for forty three days a month and a half. I think,
largely go after President Trump, but they they said there
are stated reason why it was about healthcare. I do
think it makes sense for us to look at ways
to bring down premiums, but it's not a further subsidy
of Obamacare. I learned a long time ago. Subsidies typically

(31:11):
don't bring down costs. In fact, they normally drive cost
up and better approaches choice and competition, which is what
we want to do. So we're looking to put together
healthcare package. The Speaker I think was talking about this
yesterday on Health Savings Accounts Association health plans, giving families
the ability to purchase kind of plan that fits their needs.
Younger families don't need some of the same coverage that
older Americans need, So there's ways to do that that

(31:32):
I think makes sense, and so we're looking to do that.
Of course, we've got a big bill on the floor
today that we'll be speaking on later this afternoon on
college sports. We got the January thirtieth issue on funding
the government and a host of other things. I think, Franklin,
we got to make a decision on we're going to
do a second reconciliation package. You're not because the first

(31:53):
of all I thought was great and it's going to
I think, starting to have impact on our economy. But
all those are things that I think we need to
focus on getting done here for the American people and
build on the great record we've seen with securing the border,
cutting taxes and some of the success that President Trump
has had on the international scene as well.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
When you look ahead to twenty twenty six, we've had
the last win, thankfully in my congressional district. Here Matt
van Evskin is joining you as a colleague, and I
know Speaker Johnson was on with us earlier this week
campaigning for him. When do you think in your mind
the pivot to the official start of the twenty twenty

(32:32):
sixth election becomes. And the reason why I'm asking is,
you know we're finishing twenty twenty five, This is the
last of all those races happened last night. Is it
August in your mind? Where it officially flips the campaign season.
You've been through a lot of these. Yeah, when to you,
does the campaign really start next year?

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, I mean largely when you know, Congress has this
historic break in the month of August, so that's sort
of the traditional time, right. Okay, now it's just full
till politics until till the November election. But you know,
you guys know this. I mean you're on you're on
the radio, you're talking to it, this this huge audience
every day. We're pretty much in the perpetual campaign. I
mean it's like, you know, no, senter's one race, don

(33:13):
until they're already talking about the next one, and then
the states that have to offer your elections like New
Jersey and Virginia, and so it's it's almost perpetual. I
don't know if it's not necessarily good or bad, but
certainly the traditional time frame is next summer, but I
think it probably gets here a little a little sooner.
And with the Democrats and they're constant attack on the president,

(33:36):
in some ways, it feels like it's never stopped.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
What's the way to actually deal with affordability for the
administration and for the Congress to the degree that it's
even possible. I mean that there's the structural issues, Congressman,
of the inflation that we have, the trillion spent under
Biden that spiked this to a forty year high in inflation.
Still trying to deal with that. Prices, though, bring them

(34:01):
down very tough. Even keeping them static would seem to
be in some ways a challenge depends on what we're
talking about. But healthcare specifically, it's just completely out of control.
I mean, anybody who looks at their premiums now versus
their premiums a decade ago. I mean, you go back
to the beginnings of Obamacare, really a decade and a
half ago, and people's premiums have gone up two or

(34:24):
three times monthly premiums.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
And they told us, remember they told us, you like
your plan, you can keep your plan, You like your doctor,
you can keep your doctor, and premiums will go down.
They were zero for three. And now what Democrats are saying, oh,
the expanded credit, the expanded subsidy in the Obamacare plan
that we want to give to insurance companies, we want
to extend that, Well, how does that make any sense?

(34:47):
And how's that going to bring down costs and make
things more affordable. It's not. So you got to go
back to what I said, choice and competition bring down costs.
Let's focus on that in healthcare. Let's also look at
the fact that these taxing cuts that we had in
the Big Beautiful Bill are just now starting to kick in.
I think they're going to have pay real dividends for
American families as we move into twenty six and we
get closer to the election. I think that will help

(35:08):
us politically, certainly will help families in a real way,
help our economy, but also help us politically. I think
all that is going to improve. And then finally, the
last point I make, and you were saying this, Buck,
it was so bad under a Biden. The spending inflation
was off to the charge nine percent was like going
crazy levels, record levels of inflation, never seen those levels before.

(35:30):
President Trump and Republicans bring it down significantly, but things
still cost too much. When you have that, the curve
is going straight up, and you bring the curve down
to almost flat, it's still way too high. So it's
going to take a while for the Big Beautiful Bill,
the tax cuts, the regulatory reform that we had in
there to really impact them. If we can do some
good things on healthcare. I think we can bring down
cost even more. We're seeing that at the gas pump

(35:51):
right now, lower price and everything else. But I think
that's how it has to play out, and I think
it can as we move into next year and get
closer to the election.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I think you hit on the signature issue that's going
to be out there in twenty twenty six or talking
to Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio, and that is people
are just frustrated with what things cost, and it went
up so fast under Joe Biden that even if you
start to bring back sanity to pricing, the price is

(36:21):
still feel like too much. I mean, I ordered, I
had Chick fil A with my kids yesterday. The amount
I have to pay for Chick fil A, it blows
my mind every time I do it. Everyone out there
knows what that feeling is when you go to buy
something and in your head it feels like it should
cost twenty bucks and instead it costs thirty. Everybody knows
that feeling. And I've used the analogy Congressman of back

(36:42):
when the same thing happened with Jimmy Carter Reagan.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
It took a while for people to stabilize there.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Great point. Will we were talking about the same thing yesterday.
Great point.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Will it register with enough people by the time we
get to November of next year. That's my biggest concern
because I think by twenty eight it will by twenty six,
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's you know, that's the big question.
I think it will. I'm confident. One of my colleagues,
excuse me, one of my colleagues said yesterday, he thinks
when the when you know, the big beautiful bill really
kicks in, he thinks it will have that kind of
impact on each sharp guy is on the budget committee.
I mean understand this stuff. So I tend to think
it will. And I'm always the optimism about these these

(37:26):
good policies that we put in place. So let's hope.
So I think so. But we'll just have to see,
and we're gonna have to go out and tell people.
And remember, campaigns aren't just about that. They're also about
telling you, telling voters what the other side wants to do.
Never forget, I've said there's many times not all Democrats
are crazy, but the left that controls their party is,
and they're the party that says we want to defund

(37:48):
the police, which is crazy. They're the party that says
menchikipede against women in sports, which is crazy. They're the
party that says we shouldn't have a border to just
be wide open, which we saw for four years. That
is crazy. So we got to highlight those things as
well and then point to the positive that we've accomplished
that make life better for families across this country. That's
how the campaign's going to unfold in my judgment, and
I think we're going to have a pretty good story.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Tell Congers and do you think that Democrats after the
longest shutdown the complete own goal of the shutdown, but
do do you think that they have politically learned a
lesson from this, as in this isn't something they want
to try again?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Or what do you think?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I mean, looking at the way that they operated then
and what you're hearing now being up on Capitol Hill
and obviously having to work with Democrats on a whole
range of things and deal with them, what's their takeaway
from all of that? What do you think they're going
to do going forward with continuing resolutions? Like how are
they going to play.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
It well, how they're going to play January thirty two.
Knows they might try it again. But I do not
think they've learned any any lesson that any in a
way we would really I think, wow, I think, well, well,
look at Chuck Schumer six months ago he voted for
the CR and then this time he would have he
let people who were retiring or others safer seat, who
weren't up for reelection, whatever, they could vote for it

(39:03):
to open back up the government. So I don't think
they've learn anything because again, remember the left controls their party,
and the left was adamantly opposed to opening up the government.
The left is the left, and the and the Democrat
Party were the people who persuaded them to shut down
the government. So the left control of that party, that's
where all the energy is. That's the mom Donnie wing

(39:25):
that in the AOC wing. That that's the control and
the energy and the party. So I do not think
I think they're gonna they're double down on that. I mean,
they ran in a district in Tennessee. Mad Van App's
great guy west Point Brad helicopter pilot, wonderful family, good guy.
We endorsed that guy, early, great guy, great candidate. They
ran what the AOC of Tennessee. This is Tennessee, for

(39:46):
goodness sake, and you're you're talking about some left wing
person is gonna win a seat in Tennessee that's got
a bunch of rural counties around Nashville. Like that makes
no sense, But that's today's left. So I don't. I
think the lesson is we're just gonna keep pushing ahead
with all the left wing policies.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
What else is out there we should know, Jim, As
we get ready and we get a lot of questions about, hey,
you know, we know that we're going to have control
of the House in the Senate for one more year,
right until you guys take your recess in the summer
to start the campaign season.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And we know that.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
If we lose the House, President Trump's probably going to
get impeached for a third time. And you know better
than anybody that stuff will drag that drag on. It'll
be very difficult to get anything passed. What to you
is the most important thing that can be passed in
the next year, that that that's your top priority or
that you think should be the top priority of the

(40:39):
Republican Party.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Well, I'll mention two things. One First, it is just
more general. I just think we should do our job.
I mean, there has been a budget passed. The budget
sets the framework for doing the appropriations. I think we
should do our job past the budget, moving the appropriations,
fund the government, follow the processes. That's you know, tried
and true versus all these crs and all these shutdowns
talking of anything else. So just just do our job,

(41:02):
show up at committee, pocus on good policy, get the
kind of health care that that gives choice and competition
versus you know, more subsidies that they want to do
under Obamacare. So I think that's sort of in a
general sense. Second, I do think when you look at
the weaponization of government over the last years, that we've
all been a part of a scene and uncovered. I
do think we have this spisor reauthorization coming up in

(41:23):
the spring. I think it's important we get that right
and protect Americans liberties. I mean, I just found out
two weeks ago that Jack Smith and his team were
getting my phone records, spying and surveilling me for two
and a half years. They knew who who called me,
when they called me, how long the call lasted, and
if I initiated the call, they knew where I was
at when I initiated a call. You talk about patterning

(41:45):
someone's life. You figure out every morning, Clay or Buck,
you call it, you text your wife, when you got
to work, you call it this time, you call your brother,
you call your colleague, Claiy like they can pattern all that.
That's creepy, but that's what they were doing. And so
I do think with this spies of real authorization, we
need to focus on protecting the fourth amend at your
first Amendment liberties, making sure those are strong protections in place,

(42:06):
because that's our system, that's the Constitution, that's the Bill
of Rights, and that's what we need to do. So
I think that's an important element that we have to
get right. That comes up for reauthorization of this coming April,
and it's in this you know, right in our committee
of course.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Awesome. Well, we appreciate the time you.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Bet, thanks guys, thanks for all the good work to do. Buck, congratulations,
I'll be watching.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Thank you next year. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I appreciate the congrats, especially because my shoulder is still
a little sore. But that's a conversation for another time.
Old man Sex that over here. Thank you, Congress and Jordan.

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Speaker 2 (44:17):
Welcome back into Clay in Buck.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I want to dive into what Trump has said about
the Somali community in Minneapolis here in just a second.
Getting a lot of attention on this, but first up,
I just I just have to because this is gonna
be fun. We have as you know, we have robust
audience in all fifty states, but I'm particularly pleased this
shows how cool it is it radio people could listen

(44:41):
to us in Alaska on the radio, and they do,
including Pam who listens on k E N I six
six fifty k E and I up in Anchorage, and
this is what she had to say.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Hh, Okay, Buck, you're you're trying my patients a little
bit here. So last week I was I was wounded
by your cobbler hatred and on behalf of the entire
state of Alaska who goes You know, weeks and subs
are a weather stop. Just stop with your blankie and

(45:12):
your air conditioning.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Look, sometimes the air conditioning is really whistling over here
in South Florida. And I'm wearing shorts and a T
shirt all the time because that's just as one does here.
But I will for our Alaska listeners, Clay, I will
put this out there. It is my understanding that if
you rub your hands together and blow on them a
few times, that can help. Or perhaps Alaskans take your heads,

(45:38):
put them in your armpits, let them warm up a
little bit, and then it'll be just like South Florida.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Ball me perfect. I've said this before.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm going to take a trip you've been because in
fact with your dad when we were out to dinner recently,
your brother was complaining about you guys getting dropped off
and grizzly bears and everything else on your family trip
to Alaska, where your dad just kind of took.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
You into the while.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Tell the quick version of the story is that we actually,
I mean that this is going to sound a little
a little frufrey, but we had these little, very small
helicopters that would drop us off for fly fishing in
some streams in some areas. And you could see in
these streams because you're up in the there's no roads

(46:27):
nowhere to get here. This was off the Keenai Peninsula,
I think it was. This is now going back two
thousand and nine, so I gotta go to the memory
here a bit. But when we landed, we just landed
to do some fly fishing, but the only way to
get in and out was helicopter, and we were told
via radio, oh, you guys, there's a big like a

(46:47):
storm came in suddenly you may have to just hang out.
And then they were like, you may have to overnight.
We had nothing.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
We had no.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Food, we had no packs, we had nothing. So and
there were grizzly bears all over the place.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Now there. The good thing is that grizzly bears are.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Just eating salmon and creating a lot of blubber for
themselves for hibernation.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
So the grizzly bears are actually in a very good mood.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
But they're still large and have teeth and claws, and
they could get annoyed at you. We had a couple
of fifty cow handguns among us, but the guides who
have been one of our guides had actually been a
marine in Fallujah and was a great dude. He was
just like, look, man, the fifty cow, like, it's better
to try to scare the bear away first. And also,
if you shoot a bear in Alaska and it's not

(47:32):
in physical you can't prove that it was actually attacking you.
It treated like a murder investigation. I mean, state authority
is gonna be like you absolutely cannot just be like
I thought the bear was. It basically has to be
mauling you and then you can defend yourself. So he's like,
it's better if you had to you want to shoot
in the air and try to scare it away because
he's like a handgun fifty cow with a full grown

(47:53):
grizzly bear charging good luck.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
It doesn't stop. In other words, like it just keeps coming. Yeah,
and uh I think it. I again, I've never been.
I need to go. But because there it was the
S and W five hundred. By the way, for any
who a wondering guess, we were caring revolvers. So a
lot of people have to travel in Alaska and helicopter
and plane because there aren't roads in the same way

(48:16):
that there are for many other parts such an a
voluminous and expansive place.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I'm also desperately trying to get back my man card
here after that other guy with his devastating selphone of
Man card violations, he would clay, would he put them
all out there?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I was like, man, that is kind of rough.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
So, uh, you know, sometimes I go grizzly bear grizzly
bear fishing or fishing your grizzly bears and do man stuff,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
So you're gonna you and lost a ton of videos
of you shooting things like that, your your social media
accounts from this weekend.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I'm getting out of the bazuka. I'm taking out the
full auto this weekend. I got to make up for
some things here, but you and Laura in all seriousness,
and the boys Alaska and we went in summer, but Alaska,
and it's amazingly beautiful and the stop the sea is incredible.
I thought them seeing moose was really was really cool too.
They're so much bigger than you think. When you even

(49:12):
get close enough to have some understanding of them, they're
absolutely incredible. All right, All right, back to politics, Back
to Trump. Sorry about that little diversion there. Try to
rack up a couple of man card points for me.
We have Trump weighing in on the Somali fraud story.
Listen to what the President of the United States said.
I'm just gonna let you hear it. This has cut
ten what I watched.

Speaker 12 (49:32):
One is happening in Minnesota, the land of a thousand lakes.
However many lakes they happen. They got a lot of lakes,
but this beautiful place, and I see these people ripping
it off. And now I'm on the standing and you're
gonna look in to that's I hear they ripped off.
Somalians ripped off that state for billions of dogs billions

(49:57):
every year.

Speaker 10 (49:59):
Billions of dogs.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
And they contribute nothing.

Speaker 12 (50:04):
The welfare is like eighty eight percent. They contribute nothing.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I don't want them in our country.

Speaker 12 (50:10):
I'll be honest with you. I can somebody said, oh,
that's not politically correct.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I don't care.

Speaker 12 (50:15):
I don't want them in our country. Their country is
no good for a reason. Their country steaks.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Play.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
As you can imagine, the anti Trump media, the Democrats,
they are all in it, all in it, pizzy about
what Trump said here.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
This is interesting. The population I'm reading from our friend.
He has a great account at maze more. Literally this
popped up as we're talking about this. During a twenty
month period, the feeding our future scammers build for over
one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Five million fake meals.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Think about this population of Minnesota, he says about six
million people, and only one point five three million people
are under the age of eighteen.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
So we're not talking.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
When you're billing for one hundred and twenty five million
fake meals. Some of the fake kid names they came
up with were Man Sincere and John Doe. I mean,
this is this The scale of this fraud should have
been so easy to catch because, according to this one

(51:26):
hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Five million meals.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Would you have set back and said, I mean, just
think about the sheer scale that of volume of food
you would need to have to prepare one hundred and
twenty five million meals.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
There's I have many thoughts on this. One is to
steal under the guise of charity, specifically a charity feeding
needy children is particularly grotesque, right, Yes, you know it's
it's bad, and you'll go to prison for a long
time for defrauding the federal govern for Medicare or Medicaid
or something. But to say, hey, give me all this money,

(52:05):
I'm pretending to feed needy children, right, there's something particularly
gross and particularly detestable about that. That's that's uh, you know,
one aspect of this. And then there's also I think
the recognition clay that, of course the Somali community in Minneapolis,
and we'll get to Jacob. I think it's the mayor Pray.
Is the Jacob Jacob Fray? I forget it? Yes, yes,

(52:27):
that's right, right, the mayor of Minneapolis. Here In a second,
who now starts speaking Somali in government, you know, meetings
and public announcements. Not very well, I would guess, but
he does speak Somali. Uh, there's a political constituency now
in that state that operates as a unit, and this
is what happened. There's this is an assimilation. Okay, this

(52:49):
is something much more akin to a fifth column. This
is a group operating as a you give us what
we want specifically, and in this case, a group that
has operated with a percentage. I understand it's only you know,
a small number overall of the of the group, but
billions of dollars of criminality that you know, how many

(53:10):
people actually touched that money?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
I start to look at it. It would be interesting
and clay.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Then there's also how much of this was able to
continue because people in a Democrat state like Minneapolis just
felt uncomfortable with what was going on with the Somali community,
meaning it will look racist, it will look xenophobic. I
don't want to touch this. One of the most horrific

(53:34):
examples of this phenomenon of a foreign immigrant group that
people don't want to address. The the criminality going going
on was in was Ratherhaman in the UK, where you
had a package. You had these Pakistani child rape gangs
that were operating and when they went back, this was
just a few years ago, and when they went back

(53:57):
and they kept that girls, little.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Girls and their parents twelve thirteen years old.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
We're going into the police and saying that this is
what happened to me, and the police when they finally
this became too much of an issue. And by the way,
the US media did not spend nearly enough time on this.
Ratherham is the really infamous case. That's the name of
the town, the city Clay. You know what they were saying, Well,
we didn't want this to reflect badly. The police were saying,
we didn't want this to reflect badly on the broader

(54:23):
Pakistani British community. Yeah, is that phenomenon alive? And well
here that same idea of well, we don't want to
enforce the law because people will realize we got a
real problem in the Somali community in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I think Trump certainly thinks that's real.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Well, one of the defenses that's going on they have
a child rape allegation case that I was reading about
in a Somali immigrant in Minnesota, and the defense that
is being offered on his behalf. Did you see this
is he hasn't really assimilar yet to American culture and

(55:02):
he's still still participating in Somali culture, which means sex
with twelve year olds is considered standard behavior in Somalia.
And so this to me goes to the culture of
the people that we are actually bringing to this country.
And again, this is why I don't think there's a hissess.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Also came up, by the way, in the UK with
those Pakistani they call them grooming gangs. I don't I
think that term is way to you know, uh, sort
of sanitize it. They're rape gangs. They were child rape
gangs that were operating. And when they would say, well,
in Pakistan, I mean there effectively is no I mean,
the age of consent is not enforced and it doesn't
really exist, right, So they were saying, well, I mean

(55:45):
the police, everyone, the police in the UK were like, well,
to be fair, it's like, no, you're in the UK
and these are children and you're supposed to defend them.
They should be the first people to be defended in
a civilized place. Clay, the fact that that's even being
brought up here in America pretty shocking and horrifying. Yeah,
and again I think it goes to why there's not

(56:05):
a great historical analogy in play here to people who stay, Well,
we've always had a massive immigration policy.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Go back to Ellis Island. Look at what's written on
the Statue of Liberty. The people who came to America
in the late eighteen hundreds and the early nineteen hundreds,
that huge wave of immigration were coming from Western civilization,
and they're really similar. Yes, there is a corresponding degree
of agreement because it comes out of a Judeo Christian

(56:36):
culture with what should be considered acceptable in the world
that doesn't exist. When you're talking about the defense being
offered for a Somali individual in the United States who
is accused of raping a twelve year old, the defense is, well,
he hasn't assimilated enough to American culture. What you're saying
is the culture completely condones twelve year old sex in

(56:59):
some all. Yeah, this is I mean, this is a
thing that I'll tell you. In Afghanistan, a lot of
our of our soldiers who worked very closely with the
indigenous forces and some of the indigenous elements there. One
of the terrible things that they would become aware. You know,
they weren't the police force of Afghanistan, so to speak,

(57:22):
but they've become aware of is what is culturally allowed
in a place like Afghanistan is barbarous. It is barbarous, truly, okay.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
And we were trying to just stop the Taliban and
we were told, you know that you aren't the local
police force. I mean this, this you guys who served that,
the guys and gals listening served in Afghanistan. You know
exactly what I'm talking about the kind of stuff that
would go on over there culturally, and specifically when it
came to the the the sexual abuse of of children,

(57:57):
that was not you know, they we weren't. They weren't
talking about it, and the pressed do you want to
talk about it? Because Afghanistan has its own you know,
had its own cultural standards.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
It was horrific, horrific the stuff that was going on
over there.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
And anyway, and we import the third world and we wonder,
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
This is the point.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
We're bringing people in from these places and then they
act a certain way and we go, wait a second,
you know, you mean, this isn't what the founders intended.
And Trump is saying, you know, we got to look
at this a little bit more.

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