December 10, 2025 • 59 mins
Importance of Gender Roles
Clay is broadcasting from our Birmingham, Alabama, affiliate, WERC, where he’s doing a couple of charity events tonight. The hour dives into major cultural and political topics shaping the national conversation. First up is the announcement of Jasmine Crockett’s Senate campaign in Texas, which Clay and Buck analyze as a strategic move likely fueled by inflated online support and aimed at boosting her national profile. They predict her candidacy will generate media attention but question her chances in a deeply conservative state.
The discussion then pivots to sports and cultural commentary as the world’s number one women’s tennis player publicly denounces the inclusion of biological men in women’s athletics. Clay and Buck praise her stance as common sense and note the significance of such a high-profile athlete speaking out on fairness in sports. This leads to a broader conversation about gender roles, masculinity, and societal trends. The hosts dissect Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s viral comments claiming Republicans criticize him because they’re “intimidated by his masculinity.” Clay and Buck mock the performative masculinity Democrats attempt to project, arguing that progressive ideology undermines traditional gender norms and alienates male voters.
We Have a Culture Problem
President Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania, where he addresses affordability concerns and economic messaging ahead of the 2026 midterms. Trump touts falling gas prices—some states reporting under $2 per gallon—and emphasizes his administration’s efforts to stabilize energy markets despite lingering inflation caused by Biden-era policies. Clay and Buck analyze how affordability will be a key battleground issue, noting that Democrats are leveraging economic frustration while Trump counters with tangible progress on energy and cost-of-living metrics.
The conversation then pivots to immigration and welfare abuse, spotlighting a shocking statistic: 81% of Somali immigrant families in Minnesota are on welfare. Clay and Buck argue this violates the spirit and letter of the Immigration and Nationality Act’s “public charge” rule, which prohibits admitting immigrants likely to become dependent on government aid. They blast the bipartisan failure to enforce these laws and highlight cultural and educational disparities that drive such dependency. The hosts contrast Somali immigrants’ outcomes with high-achieving groups like Nigerian and Taiwanese Americans, dismantling claims that racism explains economic gaps and stressing the need for merit-based immigration reform.
Jennifer Welch is Awful
Clay and Buck address the disturbing attacks on Erika Kirk, widow of Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated 90 days ago. They condemn left-wing commentators for labeling her a “grifter” and calling for her to be “kicked to the curb,” praising Erica’s advocacy as selfless and honorable. The hosts highlight John Fetterman’s unexpected defense of Erika and criticize the silence of some conservatives who should be speaking out. This segment underscores the toxic nature of modern political rhetoric and the moral obligation to defend grieving families from partisan cruelty.
The Aussie Social Media Ban
A major cultural debate: Australia’s decision to ban social media for anyone under 16. Clay strongly supports the move, comparing social media’s mental health impact to smoking and arguing that early exposure has fueled anxiety, bullying, and predatory risks for teens. Buck adds that online platforms erode attention spans and expose minors to grooming and sextortion schemes, citing chilling cases where teenage boys were blackmailed into suicide after being targeted by fake accounts. Both hosts call for U.S. policymakers to consider similar restrictions, framing social media as a public health crisis and urging parents to advocate for age-based limits akin to driving or drinking laws.
The discussion expands into broader societal implications, including the dangers of digital permanence, the rise of AI-driven scams, and the cultural shift toward instant gratification. Clay and Buck emphasize that delaying social media access would improve mental health, restore face-to-face interaction, and reduce risks tied to online predators. They invite listener feedback through polls and calls, sparking a lively exchange on whether America should follow Australia’s lead.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, I appreciate
everyone out there hanging with us, and I would like
to say thank you to our affiliate here in Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I am down to speak this evening, and I.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Am looking forward to speaking to hundreds of our listeners
a little bit later this evening. But I also appreciate
the fact that we have a monster audience here. We're
often number one in this marketplace, and so thank you
to everyone that's making that happen all over the country,
but particularly today for everyone in the Birmingham, Alabama area.
(00:41):
All Right, Buck, we got a lot to dive into.
Our good friend Jasmine Crockett is officially under sorry, is
officially underway in her campaign for the Senate in Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There are reports that there was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
A deluge of fake support, motivated by publican activists who
were praying that she would think it was real and
decide to enter the race.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We will have some fun with that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Susie Wiles, President Trump's chief of staff, weighing in as
the President hit the road in Pennsylvania and began to
make the case for why you should support his agenda.
In twenty twenty six and why you should vote for Republicans.
We will discuss that we finally had a super powerful,
positive women's athlete, in fact, the number one tennis player
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in the world. I might mispronounce her name because I
will confess that I am not a huge women's is
it Ariana Sabolenka?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Did I get that right? Sablenka?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, she has absolutely teed off on the idea. She's
the world's number one tennis player. She is absolutely teed
off on the idea that there should be any men
involved in women's athletics at all, And that sounds something
that is very common sense. But I think she probably
has become the most famous women's athlete, certainly the most
(02:04):
famous current women's athlete to have spoken out about this.
She is the world's number one tennis player. We may
talk about that, but I thought we could have some fun.
This has gone viral. It was out for a little while.
One quick thing from the tennis world. I thought so interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Of the top ten female highest paid athletes in the world,
this was just I saw this in the last week
and I thought of you, mister sports. Yes, I think
eight of them are female tennis players, which tells you
something about the global popularity of women's tennis.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's actually a great sport.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
If you're a high level men's tennis player, watching the
women is actually better for you because you're never going
to serve like those guys. But you can learn more
from the pace of women's professional tennis anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I also, by the way, not that I'm very good
at tennis at all, I would rather watch a three
set tennis match at most than a five set tennis match,
just because I don't want to watch a four hour
sporting event if I don't have to, So I actually
prefer that they get done in three sets.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But so we will talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Buck remember one hundred and three mile an hour serve
he doesn't need to watch winmen's tennis players, says he
has such.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
One to three baby, The women serve like one twenty.
But we don't have to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's okay, speaking of masculine Tim Walls, this has gone
viral in the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Evidently, Tim Walls was on.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
With uh with Gavin Newsom on that podcast that Gavin
Newsom does, and he decided to weigh in on masculinity,
and he said that the reason why he gets so
much criticism from Republicans is because they are intimidated by
his masculinity.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
This is real.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now, to be fair, this was from March, but this
is Tim Walls talking about what a man he is.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Listen, this notion of toxicity and masculinity has to be separated,
and I think it's been conflated.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And I think we we We're gonna have to work
on that.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
A little bit. And I think there's Look, there is
a christ I think so much scare them.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think I scare them a little bit. Why they
spend so much time on this.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, I'm serious, because I can fix a truck.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They know I'm not bullshit on this. Yeah, I'm not
putting this in people's grill. I don't know if my
identity is not hunting. My identity is not football coaching.
My identity is not you know, a beard in a truck.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
This is again I've said this before, but I think
I think I wrote it in my book. Tim Walls
is a lesbian woman's idea of a man that will
appeal to men, and Democrats are aware that they have
an issue with male voters, but Buck. They lack the
ability to just be normal dudes to such an extent
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that they end up picking guys like Tim Walls, who
they think, we made fun of this for all last year.
But they put him in a car heart and they
put him in boots, and they gave him a gun,
and they had him walk around and they were like, oh, see,
this is a normal guy. And he's not a normal
guy because normal guys don't think that dudes with penises
should be in women's locker rooms and they don't believe that,
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but women are actually men, and they don't understand even
how to talk to men.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, this is exactly the point, though, to be in
good standing with the Democrat Party, you have to. Now
people say, well, what about like there are a lot
of uh, you know, masculine particularly like masculine black men
who are Democrats, and they're yeah, they don't talk about
the trans issue publicly. They also don't actually pay attention
(05:37):
to what Democrats say today. They're sort of vestigial Democrats
because from the nineties and the early two thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But not for me.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
My point here is is like, you know, yeah, like
there are a lot of like, you know, NBA players
who I'm sure like came out for Kamala and we're
big you know, Democrat voters.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They're not big on the trans issue though, right.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, you know, you start to break down the
Democrat coalition very quickly and see that if you're going
to be somebody who is on board with the Democrat
agenda in public, you're going to have to take positions
that normal masculine men find preposterous, find demeaning, finds abhorrence, right,
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a whole range of things. Like a normal man hears, hey,
I think that twelve year old should start to get
hormones because they've come home from school one day and say,
I'm not a boy, I'm actually a girl. A normal
dad who's like a dad dad, here's that and goes,
you're twelve years old. This is insane. What's going on here?
The science behind this is completely science actually shows it's
(06:42):
a horrible idea. But put that aside. Normal men hear that,
they say this, Normal men hear things like toxic masculinity
and inherently cringe because they go, really, toxic masculinity is
actually just undermining masculinity, because what you're doing is setting
up a paradigm where nothing can be good that is masculine.
The only things that are actually singular to masculinity are
(07:05):
bad things, right, Because Clay, if I say what's good masculinity?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You saw this was the the probably.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The best known exchange I had on that Bill Maher appearance, which,
by the way, the reason I've mentioned a few times
is because it was fun. I got to go on
a Democrat show in front of a Democrat audience and
basically spike the football before Trump's election on all of
this and everything was true and now they've had to
admit it all right, So it was like a particular moment.
But I said, so you can't say masculinity is courage
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because then feminists and you know, left wingers go.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
What about courageous women?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And really it's like, so nothing is allowed to be
specifically masculine that is good. Normal guys see that. They
think that's absurd. You go down this list of stuff.
By the way, masculine men don't think that criminals should
be able to hurt people, women, children, old people.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And get away with it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Masculine men hear that and they're like, I want to
go kick someone's ass.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And you know, if you're a democrat. If you're a
democrat's you have to do the whole like.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, maybe the seventieth time you got arrested was when
you were ready for reform. This is why Clay to
your point of course, this is what has happened, and
Democrats are just trying to pretend like this isn't the
obvious reality.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I spend a ton of time thinking about this because
it troubles me. It troubles me because if you look
at population collapsing, what is let's take a step back,
what is ultimate success between men and women when it
comes to our interactions and our relationships. It's children, right,
that is the ultimate success story. Now I understand some
(08:38):
of you have incredibly loving marriages and you never had children.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I'm not demeaning that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm just saying the ultimate goal of our species is
that we have to have children to propagate the species.
We're failing at that. We are failing as a society
in the most civilized, the most brilliant historical record countries
and their very different, whether it's Japan or Italy and
(09:07):
now in the United States, certainly in Britain, Germany, like
you just run through the list, we're failing at producing
more children than existed before us, and that is not
a good thing. It's actually potentially going to lead to
serious civilizational issues.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think, Clay, that your man explaining and leaving out
all of the intersex and non binary individuals who have
also chosen not to have children because of climate anxiety.
So really we need to be more inclusive of their
multiple psychoses.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And by the way, one of the challenges here is
I was reading yesterday, I believe the average age for
marriage is now over thirty. Let me make a psa here.
That's fine for dudes. Women you should be getting married
way younger. And I'm not trying to set anybody off
(09:59):
on a foot panic, but this whole idea that women
should be the same as men. There are a lot
of moron guys out there that suddenly looked around at
forty five or fifty or even fifty five and said, hey,
you know what, I'd really like to have kids that
still had the ability to do it. There's a lot
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of women that get to that age and they say,
but wait, I went to grad school, I did everything,
I was a girl boss, I did everything that society
told me I should do, and I passed up on
marriage because I couldn't find mister Wright, and I was
so focused on my career. I don't think the aspiration
of anyone, male or female should be to desperately claw
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their way to middle management at the expense of having children.
And so I think we've sold a bill of goods here.
And if I had daughters, I'd be talking to them
about this. It's actually good to get married in your
twenties if you're a girl. It's actually good to have
children in your twenties if you are female. Men we
have the luxury of being morons for a long time
(11:06):
because of biology. But this idea of men are gonna
get married at thirty two or thirty three or forty
five or fifty or whatever it is. No, I feel
like no one tells women this. And then you go
and you get you know, get your advanced degree and
you bust your ass in a law firm for five
or six years, or you're a you know, doctor or
an architect or whatever supreme achievement you have, and then
(11:30):
you have a great deal of difficulty. They call it
after thirty five, buck, you know what?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
They call it? A geriatric pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh yeah, I know, I don't think of people as
thirty five years old as being old. Most of you
don't either, but biologically you're starting to get old, it
becomes more difficult. So anyway, I'm fired up about this
because it's becoming a bigger issue every year. Men and
women are not getting along. Men should be masculine, women
should be feminine, and we shouldn't confuse the two, and
(11:59):
that's actually a very good thing. And the fact that
Democrats can't get this right, I think culturally is why
they've lost men. And I think increasingly women are getting
angry at what they see as what they've been sold
versus the reality. It ain't that good to be a
girl boss and be in middle management when you're fifty
eight years old. I'm telling you, I bet a lot
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of people end up regretting that choice.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I mean, there are differences with the genders. You know,
at nighttime duty Speed calls out for mama. That's his
favorite word. He wants his mommy. That's his favorite person
in the whole world. That is the person closer than
any other. And that's the way that it's supposed to be.
If something goes crash, bang, whatever in the middle of
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the night Dad, Dad grabs his clock nineteen and goes
to check it out and see what the heck is
going on downstairs. Right, Gender roles are a good thing
in many, many cases, almost almost all cases. There's a
reason gender roles exist pretty much. I mean, there's a
whole anyway, this this is a big discussion. But this
(13:06):
is funny that that Tim Tim Walls is still You
could tell he's really sore about that thing.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He thought. His ace up the sleeve was like, got
my Carhart checket on, I'm gonna go. You know, they
tried to call him.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Remember when they introduced him at the Democrat National Convention.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
They didn't call him Governor Walls. They called him Coach Walls.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So they thought they were going to Friday Night Lights,
Eric Taylor him, everybody was gonna come around and this
guy with spirit fingers walking around awkwardly doing leg kicks.
Most dudes were not That's like, most guys were thinking
were not funny. And I actually recept like that was
the most interesting thing that you know, his jazz hands
was a level of creativity that I was not expecting.
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Tak to be fair to him, by the way, for
his age, his leg high kicks were actually fairly fairly impressive.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
He'd be a great run at Tim Walls.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
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We will talk about the Australia social media band for kids,
which is the lead story on Fox News right now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I'm sure a lot of you are gonna have thoughts
on this one. I very much.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I've already been thinking about how I'm gonna handle this
issue as my little boy gets older, and I want
to keep them as much in the real world. I
want to keep my son as much in the real
world and delay the virtual world as long as I can.
That's my and Clay I know you've done anyway, I
don't want to get ahead of it, because we're going
to dive into it producer rally. If I start, if
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we start blabbing about Clay's rose, just be like, no,
throw a flag.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We have to talk to Australia.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So because we promised we would talk about that, Okay,
so that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We will get at this hour.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You can send us your thoughts and talk facs in
the meantime on it, and then at the very end
we'll get to some of those. A few things going
on here. One is Trump is recognizing already the Democrats
are going to run on this affordability issue because a
lot of people are very frustrated about the economy. And
that's real, that's out there, and you got to deal
with it. You have to deal with it on the
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messaging front. You also have to deal with it on
the numbers.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Now was interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Uncle Bill yesterday was with us Bill Riley Clay, and
he seemed, from what I could gather to think that
to say that, yeah, there's some stuff that's expensive. But
also some of this is perception driven. And you know
the Democrats or are phone momenting discontent to the degree
they can.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
With this affordability issue.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
We'll get into this, but Trump was at a rally
in Pennsylvania specifically on this issue of affordability, and because
it's Trump, there were a lot of thigs that were covered,
including this illhat Omar rant which is cut two, which
I think you should all hear.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I love this elin Omar.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Whatever the hell her there is with the shoe, the.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Little turban, I love her. She comes in there's nothing
but bitch. She's always complained. She comes from her country,
where I mean, it's considered about the worst country in
the world. Right, they have no military, they have no nothing,
They have no parliament.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They don't know what they held.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
The word parliament means they have nothing. They have no police,
They police themselves, They kill each other.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All the time.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
She comes to our country and she's always complaining about
the constitution allows me to do this the concert. We
would have get her a hell out. She married her
brother in order to get in, right, she married her brother.
Can you imagine if Donald Trump married beautiful she's a
beautiful person. If I married my sister to get my citizenship,
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do you think I'd last for about two hours? Or
it would it be something less than that. She married
her brother to get in. Therefore, she's here illegally. She
should get the hell out, throw the hell out. She
does nothing but complains.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Cleay, this's got a lot of attention.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We will get into some of the actual economic policy
and affordability stuff, but ilha omar interesting. She's getting so
much more heat these days than aoc an other member
of the so called squad.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Look, and you can say, oh, that's not the best
way to focus attention. I just shared this. This is
from in wokeness rate account to follow on Twitter. According
to their analysis, this graphic that they shared, here's a
question for you, buck, what percentage of Samali families in
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Minnesota are on welfare?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Oh, sixty seventy? I would guess eighty one percent.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Seventy wasn't bad. Eighty one, Yeah, it's good, very hard.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But so here's a I mean, like, leave aside anybody
from any country. How in the world have we created
an immigration system by which anyone that we bring into
the country at all should ever be able to go
on welfare? I'm sorry if you are an American citizen,
(19:47):
as virtually everybody listening to this show is right now,
why should our taxpayer dollars in any way go to
immigrants who come to this country and immediately go on welfare.
I mean, I don't even understand how this is a Republican,
Democrat or independent issue. It should be one hundred percent
of Americans say, yeah, that's wrong. If we need to
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support American citizens, that's people who are born in the
United States with welfare, to help people get back on
their feet, to help the families have more success. That
is the decision that I think is one that charity
we have made now. Is the welfare system abused? Could
it be more efficiently run? All of these things are true.
(20:34):
There should be a zero percent immigrant welfare situation in
this country. That's eighty one percent data point shared by
end Wokeness.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Under the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under existing federal statute,
there's something called the public charge rule, where for anyone
who is supposed to be none. This is for legal immigrants,
to be clear for legal immigrants, for anyone who is
a person effective legal immigrant into America. This is the
law I am telling you right now. They are supposed
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to assess whether this person will be is likely to
become dependent on government aid in the future, and if
the answer is yes, they are not supposed to be
allowed to immigrate to America. So understand that the law
says they're supposed to be assessing, are.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You probably gonna need welfare?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
If the answer is yes, you don't get to come
and stay here. And yet eighty percent of Somali immigrant
families to Minnesota, eighty percent, eight out of ten, are
getting welfare. What this tells you is that they are
just ignoring what the law is. And I'm talking about
the system, the immigration system that we have. Law is ignored.
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People are allowed in. We can all tell they're gonna
need welfare. They're scamming the American people, not just the Somalis.
I'm talking about the people that have been running our
immigration system, and a lot of Republicans too. This is
a bipartisan scam, my friends, that has been run. How
many people even know about the public charge rule, Clay,
how often do you see this talked about on CNVER?
(22:11):
Never they as opposed to assess that should be a blanket. No,
you're gonna need you're gonna need welfare. Sorry, not allowed
to come to America. I don't care how sad you are,
how teary eyed you are, because we're not the words.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
We're not the world's soup kitchen. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Look, and I understand if you say that should never happen,
and it happens ten percent of the time, you would say,
you know what, there's a rounding error there. We're not
gonna be perfect in analyzing people's ability to make a
move like this. It might happen sometimes eighty one percent.
If it's over fifty, the default should be no one
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from those countries is allowed to immigrate here. I'm sorry
because you if you're flipping a coin on whether or
not we're gonna have to provide state, federal resources for
people from America taxpayers to come to our country.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
What this is.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
This is bonkers, okay, And so if it's an eighty
one percent, it basically means that almost everybody coming from
that country is going to immediately use up our taxpayer
dollars in order to live here. What are we doing
how I would love to see this broken down by
country of origin, because I would think you could basically
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look at it. I would bet that there is a
five percent use of welfare if you're coming from Sweden
to the United States, if you're coming to Japan, from
Japan to the United States, if you're coming from so
I mean, we can just look at the list that's
the people we should be bringing.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I would wager that less than one percent of Taiwanese
Americans are on welfare, less than one percent of Taiwanese
American immigrant they tend to be at the very very
top of the you know, income scale we went over.
Remember we talked about this yesterday and if the people.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Want to say, are you being racist? Nigerian Americans are
doing great.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Nigerian Americans immigrants from Nigeria are about eighty k a household,
doing very nicely.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Some people are saying very nicely they're doing.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Somali Americans are forty. Something's going on there. It's cultural,
it's the community. It's what the expectations are for the
new arrivals. It's what the community that's there is.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Pushing so your ability to actually have skill set to
make you a strong member of the American workforce. Do
you speak the language, do you have education? Look, I
mean you guys all know this. There are people who
have had extremely high level jobs in other countries that
come here and have to drive taxi cabs around, have
to run gas stations. Have you know a lot of
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achievement in other countries. They come here, they have to
start at the floor, but they have a skill set
that allows them to be able to make a living
and a work ethic that is second to none that
will allow them to have success.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Eighty one percent. Eighty one percent.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Basically, everyone listening to us in Minnesota right now, explain
to me how bringing all of these somalies in that
has meant that your tax dollars go to non American
citizens to immediately basically create a huge safety net for
people that have no love for your country, no recognition
of its excellence, and frankly limited to no benefit to
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the state of Minnesota. This is just a lie we've
been being told, and most people are not even looking
at the data. To me, it's just if you can't
come to this country and avoid going on welfare. To
your point, Bucket, is the law, then how are we
not applying it? How are we not limiting people from
these countries when they're immediately thriving here and taking advantage
of our goodwill.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I just think the public charge rules is one of
the best examples though, of they've been lying to you
about immigration for decades now. They don't want people to
know what the law even is because they use those
laws to get things past at the time, Oh, we're
gonna have a public charge rule. Oh, but we're gonna
increase the h one b's in this country. At the
same time, they use these things to throw people off,
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so they don't know what's really happening. And to your
point about the eighty one percent Clay, that means that
the exception is Samali immigrants to this country who aren't
on welfare, who aren't just taking from the public treasury.
And we're not even talking about the fraud stuff. Well
we have talked about that, but I'm saying that's in
addition to all of this. But let's just go for
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a second here. I know this is a little bit
of a hard term. We have a little time on
this one. Because we have to talk Australia social media
stuff because everyone's fired up about it. Trump talking about
the economy. Here he is on Gosh. Here he is
talking about gas cut cut five play this one.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Please no.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Well, we are right now, Darlie, more oil that we've
ever done ever before.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Prices are way down.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
We just had four states who was just reported that
four states had one dollar and ninety nine cents a gallon.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Were moving.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Claire.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
There's a whole hit list here of no tax on
tips of the farmers, of all these things. So we
can get into some of this. But Trump is out
there telling everybody. I understand, you're being told the economy
is really bad and some things are pinched. The prices
are high because of bide inflation, but we're doing good
things and he's trying to remind everybody of that.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Look, and price of oil and gas is one of
the places that people go to the most to think
about cost of goods. Again, I can't speak to everyone's
price of gas everywhere in the country, but this morning,
on my drive down I stopped to fill up my
gas tank two dollars and fifty cents a gallon. Okay,
Between Nashville, where I live in Birmingham, Alabama. I stopped
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just a little ways outside in Nashville two dollars and
fifty cents a gallon, That is, if you adjust for inflation,
probably a record low price in most of our lives
when it comes to how much it costs to fill
up for gas. Now, some of you are going to say,
wait a minute, la, I'm saying adjusting for inflation, because
unfortunately Joe Biden drove the cost of everything up twenty
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five percent at least over the last several years, so
we're now at four year lows dollar to dollar adjusted
for inflation. I think gas at two fifty a gallon
what I just paid for, I think that's probably the
cheapest gas has ever been in my life. And I
mean that again, adjusted for inflation. And some of you
out there are going to say, well, it was a nickel,
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you know. Okay, Well, I don't know how that would
it cost back in nineteen forty two when you were
paying a nickel a gallon or whatever the heck it was.
But in my life, two dollars and fifty cents adjusted
best price for gas that I can ever remember seeing
as a function of inflation. That actually be a good graphic.
Maybe one of our team can figure that out. Maybe Chet,
gpt or or GROC can tell you. In fact, I'll
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do that during the break, right after I tell you
about Cozy Earth.
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She covers herself up, it's a little bit cool, covers
herself up with the Cozy Earth blanket, And within fifteen
minutes she had gone on cozyearth dot com and bought
her own blanket. And then she told me, she's like,
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oh man, this blanket's unbelievable. I said, it's Cozy Earth.
I said to use my code. So oh I didn't.
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It's Wednesday, all you slackers out there, Bye but sorry.
Buck was telling Christmas gift stories from back in his childhood.
You don't want to be stopping to buy Christmas gifts
on Christmas Eve.
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On the Sunday Hang with Clay Buck podcast, Clay Travis
with the Clay and Buck Show wishing you and your
family a very merry Christmas and a happy new Year.
Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you rolling with us through the Wednesday edition of
the program. A couple of things that are out there.
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I'm looking right now. We're gonna have Erica Kirk on
the show on Friday. It has been ninety days, Buck,
since there was the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I bring
that up because so many of the attacks on Erica
Kirk have been super nasty, but I have to give
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credit two of all people.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Trump was in Pennsylvania yesterday and John Fetterman tweeted this
earlier today. Buck, it's gross and dehumanizing to attack a
widow with young children after just witnessing his public assassination.
It shouldn't be controversial to put our political views aside
(32:05):
and extend the grace for a deeply traumatized family to grieve.
He's referring to this audio, and some of you say, Okay, Clay,
you're giving And I know we talk about this quite
a lot. Buck, You're giving attention to people who don't
deserve it, and I struggle with that sometimes but this
is not a supremely minority view. There are a lot
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of people out there in this holiday season that are
attacking the Kirk family, like Jennifer Welch, super left wing podcaster.
Listen to what she said. That is what John Fetterman
credit to him, is responding to.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
But she's abundantly aware of the when you talk about
women and poverty, that black and brown women stick off
the charts more so than white women. This is an
intentional attack on poor women. And this is a dehumanization,
all done in the name of her Lord and savior,
(33:05):
Jesus Christ, which is the exact opposite of what the
central character of the faith of Christianity preached against. So
this is intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
And this she is a grifter. And just look at
the costume changes. Look at the costume change, just look
at the affect and how she does that. It's wild.
(33:28):
This woman sho'd be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So I have a few things, a few thoughts on
this woman who is getting a lot of attention these days.
She is modern Democrat Party leftism, like built in a laboratory,
and she is essentially the ultimate distillation.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Like if you were to come together and and really
take the the I, the ego, the super ego.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
If you were to look at all of the aspects
of the Democrat Party that have risen to the top
of their hierarchy, and the kind of people who are
calling the shots of the Democrat Party. I just want
to know this absolutely nasty, ignorant, heinous woman is really
(34:28):
the perfect Democrat. She's actually the the distillation. She is purity.
She is the ultimate Democrat female in twenty twenty five
going into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So I just think everybody should take take stock.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Of that from and her popularity, very rapid popularity, speaks
to speak of that that reality that she is a
very you know, internally a deeply sad and really unscrupulous
and nasty and narcissistic human being.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So I think all that is really well said. I
don't think she stands alone. I think it's important to
recognize that she is becoming popular for what she's saying.
I do think also when you call Erica Kirk a
grifter who should be kicked to the curb, and then
obviously she attacked Charlie. If and I hope God forbid,
(35:23):
oh it never happens.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
If someone killed me for something that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I was advocating for in public, at a public event
like this, I would hope that my wife would be
an eloquent voice for the arguments that I was making
after I was gone. Erica Kirk, to me, is trying
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to It's the opposite of being a grifter. She's trying
to ensure that her husband did not die in vain
and that the the things that he believed in and
that he stood for are not going to pass with him.
So if anything, and I mean this in a very
sincere way, she is being selfless. It's the opposite of grifting.
(36:15):
To me, advocating on behalf of your spouse who can
no longer advocate for himself is one of the great
aspects of marriage that we should all hope that our
lives would embody. And if your whether you're a husband
or a wife, speaking for someone who has lost their
life in a violent way and standing up for them,
it's not just that she's wrong and nasty buck, It's
(36:38):
that even the logic of her argument is refuted. To me,
what Erica Kirk is doing is a form of selfless
service for her husband's values that otherwise no one else
can articulate as well as her. Does that make sense?
So it's actually the exact opposite. Even if you want
to give this crazy left wing woman the benefit of
(36:59):
excepting her argument, she's actually saying not only awful things,
but even the logic behind her argument. It's the opposite
of what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yes, I think that's I think that's all true, and
and that's why again, the fact that this person has
risen so much in popularity.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I mean, I will tell you some of the some
of the the podcast.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And and digital creators that I'm seeing that are have
grown to the absolute top of the charts.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think the apocalypse is not I don't know what
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's a little scary, and I won't get into some
I'm not even thinking about anybody on the right specifically
right now. I'm thinking about some of the ones on
the left, and one or two that are sort of
non political. But I'm like, that's the dumbest that that woman.
Uh well, now I'm kind of giving away.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Something is I'll just say no, I'll take I'll take
the onus. No, no, no, I'm you're not thinking of what
I'm thinking of. Okay, you're not thinking of what I'm
thinking of.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I'm thinking of somebody who like tells women about how
they're should function and stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'm like, she was on the Bill maher show. I
don't even think I do.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
This woman has sold millions of books. She knows nothing,
she knows nothing. I do not understand. She's a huge,
huge podcast. Oh this is I think I do know
what is she? Is she the let them chick?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yes? Or is that a different person She's the let
them chick Yes?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, I've I've I've had a few dealings with her
before she had this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
She actually tried to do radio for a while. I
don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Like the population, I generally celebrate people's popular like I've
always seen here, oh man, like what Rogan built was
incredible and and you know, we're always very grateful for
Rush Limbaugh's shoulder, like building the house of talk radio
and shouldering that responsibility in burden for thirty years. And
I think what people do that's greatly successful. But I
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want to be able to celebrate it as something that's worthwhile,
even if it's not my thing. You know, people like
some of the true crime podcasts. It's not my cup
of tea. I don't have time for that stuff whatever,
But I can say they're really well done, they're really engrossing.
I've listened to a little bit of them here and there, whatever,
But some of the stuff that is getting really like
this this left wing woman, I can't remember her name,
but when we're talking about and this whole like let
(39:13):
them theory, this is like, this is brain damage, this
is idiocy. I don't know what else to say. I
don't know what people don't understand. I don't understand, like
I don't understand the idea. And again you went to
Blue Sky right after it happened. But I think it's
important to stare at it and recognize that not only
does it exist, it's not some crazy, outlandish not responded
(39:38):
to in a positive way. Take people on the left
that clip we played of the crazy Jennifer Welch chick
tons of mostly women, because I don't think any men
listen to that. Trying to think of a word I
can use without ginness in trouble I don't think that
many men listen to that show.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
There are a ton of left wing women that heard
everything she said about Erica Kirk and they were nodding
along and they were saying preach and they just something
else else, say differends.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
That you're reminding me of this too.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You know, you mentioned like what if something terrible and nothing,
you're gonna be fine, But like theoretically or rather if
we're talking about this, something terrible happened to you. There
are a bunch of us who would absolutely obviously me,
we do a show together three hours a day, we're
co hosts on this show, would go to the mat
and then some against anybody who would attack Laura, attack
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your legacy. And yeah, and I'm just gonna say it,
there are some people who are much closer than I.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I wasn't close to Charlie.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
We were friendly, you know, I knew him a bit,
you know, we really I knew him more like ten
years ago when he first got started. But Charlie and
I always got a long fine, and you know, and
I respected a lot of what he had built, but
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
There are people that are really close to.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Charlie who are letting crazy stuff be said and be
said about his wife and be said, and they are
silent on this issue, and people can say, why aren't
you more involved one because, like I said, I didn't
actually know I've never.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Met Erica, so I didn't know Charlie that well.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
So it's and but I'm just saying, you know, you said,
what if something happened to me, I don't know how
I'd be able to sleep at night if people were
saying crazy stuff about Laura after somebody had taken you
out of an assassination. And I'm just sitting there quietly
after being your you know, co.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Host with you for ye.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
No, but I think that's why it's that the attack
is so unfair to me because to me, her being
a voice as she is in public for Charlie is
a form of selflessness. To me, it is what you
would hope that your significant other would be trying to
do or able to do. And certainly it's a credit
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to Charlie that his wife is an accomplished.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Cause, yeah, her attacking and she said that the woman
who's attacking her is a psycho. I mean, that's but
I'm saying, but there are people who should be standing
up to the psycho and standing up to some of
the craziness out there on Charlie's behalf. And like I said,
you might well buck what about you, guys, I'm not
Clay and I were not you know, we weren't going
to turning points ends and we were not super close
to Charlie. Again, friends, we liked him, respect what he did.
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But there are people who were like Charlie's squad, yeah,
and they're silent on this stuff. And I don't want
to call anybody up by name because it's not about that.
But I just hope that maybe someone will hear this
and be like, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Look what do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Your buddy got taken out and there's lunacy all over
the place, and this woman is going after Charlie's widow.
And you're not gonna You're not gonna take that up.
You're not gonna say to me. John Fetterman spoke out.
I'm sure Fetterman didn't know Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I give him, got a copy of your book Balls,
because Federman's got some.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mean, good for him, but I mean, when is
the standard when you're going after widows?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And again I think that she is doing an amazing
job speaking out because they tried to keep Charlie from
speaking out, and the idea that you would attack herr
is even even by the standards of accepting that there
is going to be awfulness out there, her being attacked
to the degree that she is is it really has
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staggered me and the number of people out there we
know who celebrated Charlie Kirk's death and now also are
calling his widow a grifter who should be kicked to
the curb.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
How dare she?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I just it is a sign of a level of
awfulness that exists on the left that frankly, I do
not believe exists on the right. I don't think any
of you out there if Bucks he's gotten a little
crazy lately. I'm a little sad about what's going on
the right. But that's another conversation. I yeah, well, there's
(43:48):
a lot of craziness out there in general. But if
an innocent person gets assassinated and then his wife is
trying to talk about the things that he cared about,
even if I disagreed with all the politics, I wouldn't
be going I can't imagine that there would be a
similar vein of awfulness directed at the left wing version
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of Erica Kirk to the extent that she could exist.
I really don't think it would. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe
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You know, Clay, I'm just gonna hand this off to
you because you're you're very fired off about their Australia things.
I'm not even gonna set this one up. I'm gonna
let you set this one up. Australia. It's just gone
into effect. Social media band for children. Tell everybody what's
going on here.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Look, every kid in America is on social media, and
a lot of them are getting on social media at ten, eleven,
twelve years old. They're lying about their age, and it
has been shown to be incredibly destructive to mental health
for so many kids out there and a lot of parents. Frankly,
(46:13):
because social media just exploded in the last several years,
they didn't really know what they were doing. I think
we're going to look back on much of social media
as a modern day equivalent to smoking, meaning there were
huge risk factors that many people undertook without realizing what
they were getting into. And so recently schools have decided, hey,
(46:38):
you know what, we're not going to make it standard
that kids consider around most schools with their cell phones
all day long, and overwhelmingly behavior has gotten better, Kids
pay better attention in class, there's less conflict. I think
the standard across the United States. Every state I think
should have the ability to make their own decision on this.
(47:00):
But I think a standard of kids aren't allowed on
social media until sixteen would be healthy. I would support it.
And you can say, okay, well, kids are still gonna cheat,
and they're gonna make fake, you know, accounts, and they're
gonna lie about their ages and all those things. Yeah,
I get it, but that happens with everything. Where you
said an age limit, it doesn't mean it's going to
(47:21):
be infallible. I think what would be important buck is
most kids say, now I've got to be on social
media because all my friends are on social media.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I think if you can.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Eliminate that as a standard act where everybody else's kids
aren't on either and kids have to go back to
some form a face to face interaction. Remember, they can
still text, they can still make phone calls, things like
that that you know kids I think have been doing
for some time. I think overwhelmingly mental health would get better.
(47:54):
I just I think it's a no brainer. I think
Australia has got it one hundred percent right. I'm I'm
curious what this audience would say. I'm going to actually
put up a poll, and maybe there's some kids that
are already out for Christmas that want to call in
and tell me why. I'm an old unk and I'm
wrong about this, but I would support this for my
own kids being kept off social media. We have tried
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to keep them off social media as long as we can.
And look, I've got one that's about to be sixteen
at least in the near future. I've got one that's seventeen.
So they would probably argue with me. In fact, they
know they would. But kids often argue for things that
are not in their best interest. And I think a
standard rule of sixteen and up to get social media,
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just like you have to generally be sixteen to get
a driver's license, would be a good call. Your kids
are young. This will be resolved I think to a
large extent by the time your kids are older. I
think for a lot of us out there that are
parents around my age, social media just kind of exploded
about two thousand and eight and most parents really didn't
know what to do with it. I think we're now
seeing some of the major deletarious impacts that have occurred,
(49:02):
and we're responding to it in late fashion. But I
think Australia's right. I would support this nationwide. You know,
there's multiple levels here of what's going on. There's the
safety issue where children are being expelled I mean actual
physical safety, right as well as psychological safety, but being
(49:23):
exposed to predators and all kinds of you know, very
concerning stuff online because at some level online is like
the wild West, right, It's just you can be talking
to somebody, especially with AI now, people can be very
sophisticated about pretending to be somebody that they're not, and
whether it's scammers or predators or a whole range of
(49:47):
nefarious online entities. Kids, you have to protect the kids.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
From that stuff.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
So that's the first and most important line of this,
I think is the we got to make sure that
your kids aren't being groomed, that the kids aren't being
you know, targeted, and and you know, you don't know
as a parent, right because you think all my kids
home with me, they're safe. You don't realize that they're
making a plan and maybe they're gonna lie to you
about it. I mean, we've all read the stories, we
see what goes on, So that part of it, the
(50:14):
safety part of it, I'm just all in favor of
and think it makes a whole lot of sense. And
then there's sort of the more social and societal aspect
of it, where you know, this stuff is is a
generally speaking, it's a giant time waster, and it's something
that I think really affects people's ability to not only
(50:37):
interact with other human beings live and in person, but
also I think it's affecting our attention spans in ways
that are a big problem.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
People now are being trained, like our brains are all
being trained to consume things in sixty or thirty or
even five second bites of information, and that's actually not
a good thing. So I like it on that level
as well. I would want children, kids, adolescens to be
(51:10):
you know, to to I've basically formed some level of
who they are and some layers of judgment before they
are going online, because the other part of this is
too and what's online kind of lasts forever, as we know.
And I think it's a good thing that if you're
having a bad day as a fourteen year old, you're
not necessarily posting things to a public message board.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Not only that that you can't be reached by other
classmates on social media that everyone can see instantaneously. If
you had an awful experience at high school or in
middle school, when in nineteen eighty eight, you didn't come
home and then have everybody talking about it or posting
a video of it or constantly denigrating you. I just
(51:54):
this is a no brainer to me. And you mentioned safety.
I saw Marsha Blackburn, Senator from Tennessee, shared this story.
I think it was a report about the New York Post.
And this is something I think you should be talking
to your kids and grandkids about and something that I
talk to my kids about. And if your young kids
out there listening to us right now, you should be
aware of it. Pois in particular, have you seen this
awful story about there are a ton of fake accounts
(52:15):
pretending to be pretty girls, and they jump in the DM.
They create these fake profiles. They then reach out to
young boys, you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year old boys,
and they start trying to talk to them in a
sexually suggestive manner and eventually get them to send pictures.
And then as soon as the pictures are sent, they
demand payment of money or they say they're going to
(52:36):
send the pictures to all your friends, all your family.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
There are a bunch of kids, teenage boys that have
committed suicide over this.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I'm in favor of the death penalty for people to
do this. By the way, I would set them up
in front of a firing squad and not lose a
second of sleep or anything else. If you do this
to a kid like that, you deserve, you deserve to
be ended. I think it should be a death penalty
offense to do this to children.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Now, the problem with that, of course, is that many
of these accounts originate in overseas markets.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I know it's tough to track them down, but I
think I know some veterans. I know some people that
we could get together a little with. With inner poll
we could track these these pieces of absolute vermin down.
And I'm just saying I did this. It's so evil.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
What they do.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
And I truly mean that, I would be in favor
of Congress passing the law that if you if you
engage in sex stortion, which is what they call these
crimes against against children, death penalty.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I take them out. I don't have a problem with
it at all.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
I mean, we're blowing up, We're blowing up the drug
you know, the drug runners. Yeah, so we find somebody internationally,
you know, whatever, whatever we gotta do. We got to
take care of this because this is it's it's horrible.
There are kids that have committed suicide because of this.
It's the most evil thing. And you want this to stop.
Let people know we're gonna track them down anywhere in
the world and they're really going to pay a price
on this.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
I just put a posted a poll.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I said, I think Australia got it right, by the way,
eight hundred and two two two eight a two. I
think a lot of you are going to have strong
opinions on this. Katie Miller, who just interviewed to Elon Musk,
scheduled to join us at the top of the next hour.
She's a mom of a bunch of kids. I think
she will have a strong take on this, and uh,
I want to see. I'm curious. You can go vote
in the poll. Do you agree with me that Australia
(54:21):
got it right? Do you disagree? And I understand some
people are going to say, well, this is what parents
need to do, Clay, this is what parenting is all about.
Kids in general are way more sophisticated with social media
than parents are. And the biggest problem I will tell
you that parents are going to have is when the
standard is every other kid is on social media and
(54:44):
you don't allow your kid on social media, that makes
it harder for parents to keep them off. If the
standard is nobody is allowed on right. If that's the standard,
then there will be far fewer kids that are getting
on social media. And if you told me right now,
we've got a driver's license age of sixteen, that seems
(55:04):
reasonable to me. Social media seems akin to driving a
car in that you need to have a certain level
of maturity to be able to do it because there
are as Buck was just laying out substantial risk factors
associated with a social media account to say nothing of Well,
we were just talking about sex stortion and all the
awful things that can happen.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
But you can just be a moron, and you can
just do.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Stupid things that get you kicked out of school or
cost you college admissions because you were super, super dumb
when you were thirteen or fourteen years old. I always
like to say, there is no person on the planet
that is dumber and more filled with self confidence that
they are actually brilliant than teenage boys. Teenage boys are
(55:49):
the dumb and you and I have both been so.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
I thought I was really smart as a teenager, and
then in my twenties I had a lot of humility
heaped on me. So yeah, the fifth teen and sixteen
year old boy is the dumbest creature that is convinced
it is the smartest creature in the history of mankind.
There is no gap in the history of our lives
between reality versus expectation of what you think of yourself
(56:14):
versus the reality of yourself than a fourteen, fifteen, sixteen
year old boy.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I think, to the best extent, we can.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Protect morons from being morons, and that is pretty much
every teenage boy. I always like to say, Buck I've
been talking about this for a long time. Difference between
teenage boys and teenage girls. No teenage girls' final two
words or ever. Watch this. The teenage boys are always
trying to get attention, They're always trying to impress girls.
They're always taking risks and doing super stupid things. And
(56:44):
so this is certainly true for boys. I think for
girls it's even scarier in many ways, buck because teenage
girls are preyed upon even more than teenage boys and
even preteen girls. I mean, there are a lot of
creeps on social media accounts out there, so I think
the standard of sixteen. We'll take a bunch of your calls.
We got loaded lines on this eight hundred two two
(57:05):
eight a two. This is a big topic as Australia's
band has officially gone into place.
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Speaker 2 (58:27):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
We have got a ton of you who want to
weigh in on a variety of different topics.
Speaker 1 (58:43):
Let's start here.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Derek in Arizona says it's the parent's responsibility.
Speaker 4 (58:50):
Ll I'm sixty one years old.
Speaker 7 (58:53):
It's the parent's responsibility to regulate.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Their kids, period, just like you do your kids.
Speaker 7 (59:01):
Another thing I will awesome say is what's Australia does.
Just think about what they did during the pandemic. I'm sorry,
no making a looking like that here, No, okay.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
So what I would say to the people out there
who say it's the parents' responsibility, it's a very valid argument.
Let me just ask that
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, I appreciate
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
I am down to speak this evening, and I.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Am looking forward to speaking to hundreds of our listeners
a little bit later this evening. But I also appreciate
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(00:41):
All Right, Buck, we got a lot to dive into.
Our good friend Jasmine Crockett is officially under sorry, is
officially underway in her campaign for the Senate in Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There are reports that there was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
A deluge of fake support, motivated by publican activists who
were praying that she would think it was real and
decide to enter the race.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
We will have some fun with that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Susie Wiles, President Trump's chief of staff, weighing in as
the President hit the road in Pennsylvania and began to
make the case for why you should support his agenda.
In twenty twenty six and why you should vote for Republicans.
We will discuss that we finally had a super powerful,
positive women's athlete, in fact, the number one tennis player
(01:32):
in the world. I might mispronounce her name because I
will confess that I am not a huge women's is
it Ariana Sabolenka?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Did I get that right? Sablenka?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, she has absolutely teed off on the idea. She's
the world's number one tennis player. She is absolutely teed
off on the idea that there should be any men
involved in women's athletics at all, And that sounds something
that is very common sense. But I think she probably
has become the most famous women's athlete, certainly the most
(02:04):
famous current women's athlete to have spoken out about this.
She is the world's number one tennis player. We may
talk about that, but I thought we could have some fun.
This has gone viral. It was out for a little while.
One quick thing from the tennis world. I thought so interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Of the top ten female highest paid athletes in the world,
this was just I saw this in the last week
and I thought of you, mister sports. Yes, I think
eight of them are female tennis players, which tells you
something about the global popularity of women's tennis.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's actually a great sport.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
If you're a high level men's tennis player, watching the
women is actually better for you because you're never going
to serve like those guys. But you can learn more
from the pace of women's professional tennis anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I also, by the way, not that I'm very good
at tennis at all, I would rather watch a three
set tennis match at most than a five set tennis match,
just because I don't want to watch a four hour
sporting event if I don't have to, So I actually
prefer that they get done in three sets.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But so we will talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Buck remember one hundred and three mile an hour serve
he doesn't need to watch winmen's tennis players, says he
has such.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
One to three baby, The women serve like one twenty.
But we don't have to talk about that right now.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's okay, speaking of masculine Tim Walls, this has gone
viral in the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Evidently, Tim Walls was on.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
With uh with Gavin Newsom on that podcast that Gavin
Newsom does, and he decided to weigh in on masculinity,
and he said that the reason why he gets so
much criticism from Republicans is because they are intimidated by
his masculinity.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
This is real.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now, to be fair, this was from March, but this
is Tim Walls talking about what a man he is.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Listen, this notion of toxicity and masculinity has to be separated,
and I think it's been conflated.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And I think we we We're gonna have to work
on that.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
A little bit. And I think there's Look, there is
a christ I think so much scare them.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think I scare them a little bit. Why they
spend so much time on this.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, I'm serious, because I can fix a truck.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
They know I'm not bullshit on this. Yeah, I'm not
putting this in people's grill. I don't know if my
identity is not hunting. My identity is not football coaching.
My identity is not you know, a beard in a truck.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
This is again I've said this before, but I think
I think I wrote it in my book. Tim Walls
is a lesbian woman's idea of a man that will
appeal to men, and Democrats are aware that they have
an issue with male voters, but Buck. They lack the
ability to just be normal dudes to such an extent
(04:48):
that they end up picking guys like Tim Walls, who
they think, we made fun of this for all last year.
But they put him in a car heart and they
put him in boots, and they gave him a gun,
and they had him walk around and they were like, oh, see,
this is a normal guy. And he's not a normal
guy because normal guys don't think that dudes with penises
should be in women's locker rooms and they don't believe that,
(05:11):
but women are actually men, and they don't understand even
how to talk to men.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, this is exactly the point, though, to be in
good standing with the Democrat Party, you have to. Now
people say, well, what about like there are a lot
of uh, you know, masculine particularly like masculine black men
who are Democrats, and they're yeah, they don't talk about
the trans issue publicly. They also don't actually pay attention
(05:37):
to what Democrats say today. They're sort of vestigial Democrats
because from the nineties and the early two thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But not for me.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
My point here is is like, you know, yeah, like
there are a lot of like, you know, NBA players
who I'm sure like came out for Kamala and we're
big you know, Democrat voters.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They're not big on the trans issue though, right.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, you know, you start to break down the
Democrat coalition very quickly and see that if you're going
to be somebody who is on board with the Democrat
agenda in public, you're going to have to take positions
that normal masculine men find preposterous, find demeaning, finds abhorrence, right,
(06:19):
a whole range of things. Like a normal man hears, hey,
I think that twelve year old should start to get
hormones because they've come home from school one day and say,
I'm not a boy, I'm actually a girl. A normal
dad who's like a dad dad, here's that and goes,
you're twelve years old. This is insane. What's going on here?
The science behind this is completely science actually shows it's
(06:42):
a horrible idea. But put that aside. Normal men hear that,
they say this, Normal men hear things like toxic masculinity
and inherently cringe because they go, really, toxic masculinity is
actually just undermining masculinity, because what you're doing is setting
up a paradigm where nothing can be good that is masculine.
The only things that are actually singular to masculinity are
(07:05):
bad things, right, Because Clay, if I say what's good masculinity?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You saw this was the the probably.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The best known exchange I had on that Bill Maher appearance, which,
by the way, the reason I've mentioned a few times
is because it was fun. I got to go on
a Democrat show in front of a Democrat audience and
basically spike the football before Trump's election on all of
this and everything was true and now they've had to
admit it all right, So it was like a particular moment.
But I said, so you can't say masculinity is courage
(07:32):
because then feminists and you know, left wingers go.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
What about courageous women?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And really it's like, so nothing is allowed to be
specifically masculine that is good. Normal guys see that. They
think that's absurd. You go down this list of stuff.
By the way, masculine men don't think that criminals should
be able to hurt people, women, children, old people.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And get away with it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Masculine men hear that and they're like, I want to
go kick someone's ass.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And you know, if you're a democrat. If you're a
democrat's you have to do the whole like.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well, maybe the seventieth time you got arrested was when
you were ready for reform. This is why Clay to
your point of course, this is what has happened, and
Democrats are just trying to pretend like this isn't the
obvious reality.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I spend a ton of time thinking about this because
it troubles me. It troubles me because if you look
at population collapsing, what is let's take a step back,
what is ultimate success between men and women when it
comes to our interactions and our relationships. It's children, right,
that is the ultimate success story. Now I understand some
(08:38):
of you have incredibly loving marriages and you never had children.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I'm not demeaning that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm just saying the ultimate goal of our species is
that we have to have children to propagate the species.
We're failing at that. We are failing as a society
in the most civilized, the most brilliant historical record countries
and their very different, whether it's Japan or Italy and
(09:07):
now in the United States, certainly in Britain, Germany, like
you just run through the list, we're failing at producing
more children than existed before us, and that is not
a good thing. It's actually potentially going to lead to
serious civilizational issues.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think, Clay, that your man explaining and leaving out
all of the intersex and non binary individuals who have
also chosen not to have children because of climate anxiety.
So really we need to be more inclusive of their
multiple psychoses.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And by the way, one of the challenges here is
I was reading yesterday, I believe the average age for
marriage is now over thirty. Let me make a psa here.
That's fine for dudes. Women you should be getting married
way younger. And I'm not trying to set anybody off
(09:59):
on a foot panic, but this whole idea that women
should be the same as men. There are a lot
of moron guys out there that suddenly looked around at
forty five or fifty or even fifty five and said, hey,
you know what, I'd really like to have kids that
still had the ability to do it. There's a lot
(10:20):
of women that get to that age and they say,
but wait, I went to grad school, I did everything,
I was a girl boss, I did everything that society
told me I should do, and I passed up on
marriage because I couldn't find mister Wright, and I was
so focused on my career. I don't think the aspiration
of anyone, male or female should be to desperately claw
(10:43):
their way to middle management at the expense of having children.
And so I think we've sold a bill of goods here.
And if I had daughters, I'd be talking to them
about this. It's actually good to get married in your
twenties if you're a girl. It's actually good to have
children in your twenties if you are female. Men we
have the luxury of being morons for a long time
(11:06):
because of biology. But this idea of men are gonna
get married at thirty two or thirty three or forty
five or fifty or whatever it is. No, I feel
like no one tells women this. And then you go
and you get you know, get your advanced degree and
you bust your ass in a law firm for five
or six years, or you're a you know, doctor or
an architect or whatever supreme achievement you have, and then
(11:30):
you have a great deal of difficulty. They call it
after thirty five, buck, you know what?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
They call it? A geriatric pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh yeah, I know, I don't think of people as
thirty five years old as being old. Most of you
don't either, but biologically you're starting to get old, it
becomes more difficult. So anyway, I'm fired up about this
because it's becoming a bigger issue every year. Men and
women are not getting along. Men should be masculine, women
should be feminine, and we shouldn't confuse the two, and
(11:59):
that's actually a very good thing. And the fact that
Democrats can't get this right, I think culturally is why
they've lost men. And I think increasingly women are getting
angry at what they see as what they've been sold
versus the reality. It ain't that good to be a
girl boss and be in middle management when you're fifty
eight years old. I'm telling you, I bet a lot
(12:21):
of people end up regretting that choice.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I mean, there are differences with the genders. You know,
at nighttime duty Speed calls out for mama. That's his
favorite word. He wants his mommy. That's his favorite person
in the whole world. That is the person closer than
any other. And that's the way that it's supposed to be.
If something goes crash, bang, whatever in the middle of
(12:45):
the night Dad, Dad grabs his clock nineteen and goes
to check it out and see what the heck is
going on downstairs. Right, Gender roles are a good thing
in many, many cases, almost almost all cases. There's a
reason gender roles exist pretty much. I mean, there's a
whole anyway, this this is a big discussion. But this
(13:06):
is funny that that Tim Tim Walls is still You
could tell he's really sore about that thing.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
He thought. His ace up the sleeve was like, got
my Carhart checket on, I'm gonna go. You know, they
tried to call him.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Remember when they introduced him at the Democrat National Convention.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
They didn't call him Governor Walls. They called him Coach Walls.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So they thought they were going to Friday Night Lights,
Eric Taylor him, everybody was gonna come around and this
guy with spirit fingers walking around awkwardly doing leg kicks.
Most dudes were not That's like, most guys were thinking
were not funny. And I actually recept like that was
the most interesting thing that you know, his jazz hands
was a level of creativity that I was not expecting.
(13:45):
Tak to be fair to him, by the way, for
his age, his leg high kicks were actually fairly fairly impressive.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
He'd be a great run at Tim Walls.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
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We will talk about the Australia social media band for kids,
which is the lead story on Fox News right now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I'm sure a lot of you are gonna have thoughts
on this one. I very much.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I've already been thinking about how I'm gonna handle this
issue as my little boy gets older, and I want
to keep them as much in the real world. I
want to keep my son as much in the real
world and delay the virtual world as long as I can.
That's my and Clay I know you've done anyway, I
don't want to get ahead of it, because we're going
to dive into it producer rally. If I start, if
(16:12):
we start blabbing about Clay's rose, just be like, no,
throw a flag.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We have to talk to Australia.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So because we promised we would talk about that, Okay,
so that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We will get at this hour.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You can send us your thoughts and talk facs in
the meantime on it, and then at the very end
we'll get to some of those. A few things going
on here. One is Trump is recognizing already the Democrats
are going to run on this affordability issue because a
lot of people are very frustrated about the economy. And
that's real, that's out there, and you got to deal
with it. You have to deal with it on the
(16:43):
messaging front. You also have to deal with it on
the numbers.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Now was interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Uncle Bill yesterday was with us Bill Riley Clay, and
he seemed, from what I could gather to think that
to say that, yeah, there's some stuff that's expensive. But
also some of this is perception driven. And you know
the Democrats or are phone momenting discontent to the degree
they can.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
With this affordability issue.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
We'll get into this, but Trump was at a rally
in Pennsylvania specifically on this issue of affordability, and because
it's Trump, there were a lot of thigs that were covered,
including this illhat Omar rant which is cut two, which
I think you should all hear.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I love this elin Omar.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Whatever the hell her there is with the shoe, the.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Little turban, I love her. She comes in there's nothing
but bitch. She's always complained. She comes from her country,
where I mean, it's considered about the worst country in
the world. Right, they have no military, they have no nothing,
They have no parliament.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They don't know what they held.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
The word parliament means they have nothing. They have no police,
They police themselves, They kill each other.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
All the time.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
She comes to our country and she's always complaining about
the constitution allows me to do this the concert. We
would have get her a hell out. She married her
brother in order to get in, right, she married her brother.
Can you imagine if Donald Trump married beautiful she's a
beautiful person. If I married my sister to get my citizenship,
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do you think I'd last for about two hours? Or
it would it be something less than that. She married
her brother to get in. Therefore, she's here illegally. She
should get the hell out, throw the hell out. She
does nothing but complains.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Cleay, this's got a lot of attention.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We will get into some of the actual economic policy
and affordability stuff, but ilha omar interesting. She's getting so
much more heat these days than aoc an other member
of the so called squad.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Look, and you can say, oh, that's not the best
way to focus attention. I just shared this. This is
from in wokeness rate account to follow on Twitter. According
to their analysis, this graphic that they shared, here's a
question for you, buck, what percentage of Samali families in
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Minnesota are on welfare?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Oh, sixty seventy? I would guess eighty one percent.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Seventy wasn't bad. Eighty one, Yeah, it's good, very hard.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But so here's a I mean, like, leave aside anybody
from any country. How in the world have we created
an immigration system by which anyone that we bring into
the country at all should ever be able to go
on welfare? I'm sorry if you are an American citizen,
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as virtually everybody listening to this show is right now,
why should our taxpayer dollars in any way go to
immigrants who come to this country and immediately go on welfare.
I mean, I don't even understand how this is a Republican,
Democrat or independent issue. It should be one hundred percent
of Americans say, yeah, that's wrong. If we need to
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support American citizens, that's people who are born in the
United States with welfare, to help people get back on
their feet, to help the families have more success. That
is the decision that I think is one that charity
we have made now. Is the welfare system abused? Could
it be more efficiently run? All of these things are true.
(20:34):
There should be a zero percent immigrant welfare situation in
this country. That's eighty one percent data point shared by
end Wokeness.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Under the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under existing federal statute,
there's something called the public charge rule, where for anyone
who is supposed to be none. This is for legal immigrants,
to be clear for legal immigrants, for anyone who is
a person effective legal immigrant into America. This is the
law I am telling you right now. They are supposed
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to assess whether this person will be is likely to
become dependent on government aid in the future, and if
the answer is yes, they are not supposed to be
allowed to immigrate to America. So understand that the law
says they're supposed to be assessing, are.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You probably gonna need welfare?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
If the answer is yes, you don't get to come
and stay here. And yet eighty percent of Somali immigrant
families to Minnesota, eighty percent, eight out of ten, are
getting welfare. What this tells you is that they are
just ignoring what the law is. And I'm talking about
the system, the immigration system that we have. Law is ignored.
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People are allowed in. We can all tell they're gonna
need welfare. They're scamming the American people, not just the Somalis.
I'm talking about the people that have been running our
immigration system, and a lot of Republicans too. This is
a bipartisan scam, my friends, that has been run. How
many people even know about the public charge rule, Clay,
how often do you see this talked about on CNVER?
(22:11):
Never they as opposed to assess that should be a blanket. No,
you're gonna need you're gonna need welfare. Sorry, not allowed
to come to America. I don't care how sad you are,
how teary eyed you are, because we're not the words.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
We're not the world's soup kitchen. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Look, and I understand if you say that should never happen,
and it happens ten percent of the time, you would say,
you know what, there's a rounding error there. We're not
gonna be perfect in analyzing people's ability to make a
move like this. It might happen sometimes eighty one percent.
If it's over fifty, the default should be no one
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from those countries is allowed to immigrate here. I'm sorry
because you if you're flipping a coin on whether or
not we're gonna have to provide state, federal resources for
people from America taxpayers to come to our country.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
What this is.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
This is bonkers, okay, And so if it's an eighty
one percent, it basically means that almost everybody coming from
that country is going to immediately use up our taxpayer
dollars in order to live here. What are we doing
how I would love to see this broken down by
country of origin, because I would think you could basically
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look at it. I would bet that there is a
five percent use of welfare if you're coming from Sweden
to the United States, if you're coming to Japan, from
Japan to the United States, if you're coming from so
I mean, we can just look at the list that's
the people we should be bringing.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I would wager that less than one percent of Taiwanese
Americans are on welfare, less than one percent of Taiwanese
American immigrant they tend to be at the very very
top of the you know, income scale we went over.
Remember we talked about this yesterday and if the people.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Want to say, are you being racist? Nigerian Americans are
doing great.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Nigerian Americans immigrants from Nigeria are about eighty k a household,
doing very nicely.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Some people are saying very nicely they're doing.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Somali Americans are forty. Something's going on there. It's cultural,
it's the community. It's what the expectations are for the
new arrivals. It's what the community that's there is.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Pushing so your ability to actually have skill set to
make you a strong member of the American workforce. Do
you speak the language, do you have education? Look, I
mean you guys all know this. There are people who
have had extremely high level jobs in other countries that
come here and have to drive taxi cabs around, have
to run gas stations. Have you know a lot of
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achievement in other countries. They come here, they have to
start at the floor, but they have a skill set
that allows them to be able to make a living
and a work ethic that is second to none that
will allow them to have success.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Eighty one percent. Eighty one percent.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Basically, everyone listening to us in Minnesota right now, explain
to me how bringing all of these somalies in that
has meant that your tax dollars go to non American
citizens to immediately basically create a huge safety net for
people that have no love for your country, no recognition
of its excellence, and frankly limited to no benefit to
(25:24):
the state of Minnesota. This is just a lie we've
been being told, and most people are not even looking
at the data. To me, it's just if you can't
come to this country and avoid going on welfare. To
your point, Bucket, is the law, then how are we
not applying it? How are we not limiting people from
these countries when they're immediately thriving here and taking advantage
of our goodwill.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I just think the public charge rules is one of
the best examples though, of they've been lying to you
about immigration for decades now. They don't want people to
know what the law even is because they use those
laws to get things past at the time, Oh, we're
gonna have a public charge rule. Oh, but we're gonna
increase the h one b's in this country. At the
same time, they use these things to throw people off,
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so they don't know what's really happening. And to your
point about the eighty one percent Clay, that means that
the exception is Samali immigrants to this country who aren't
on welfare, who aren't just taking from the public treasury.
And we're not even talking about the fraud stuff. Well
we have talked about that, but I'm saying that's in
addition to all of this. But let's just go for
(26:30):
a second here. I know this is a little bit
of a hard term. We have a little time on
this one. Because we have to talk Australia social media
stuff because everyone's fired up about it. Trump talking about
the economy. Here he is on Gosh. Here he is
talking about gas cut cut five play this one.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Please no.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Well, we are right now, Darlie, more oil that we've
ever done ever before.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Prices are way down.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
We just had four states who was just reported that
four states had one dollar and ninety nine cents a gallon.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Were moving.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Claire.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
There's a whole hit list here of no tax on
tips of the farmers, of all these things. So we
can get into some of this. But Trump is out
there telling everybody. I understand, you're being told the economy
is really bad and some things are pinched. The prices
are high because of bide inflation, but we're doing good
things and he's trying to remind everybody of that.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Look, and price of oil and gas is one of
the places that people go to the most to think
about cost of goods. Again, I can't speak to everyone's
price of gas everywhere in the country, but this morning,
on my drive down I stopped to fill up my
gas tank two dollars and fifty cents a gallon. Okay,
Between Nashville, where I live in Birmingham, Alabama. I stopped
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just a little ways outside in Nashville two dollars and
fifty cents a gallon, That is, if you adjust for inflation,
probably a record low price in most of our lives
when it comes to how much it costs to fill
up for gas. Now, some of you are going to say,
wait a minute, la, I'm saying adjusting for inflation, because
unfortunately Joe Biden drove the cost of everything up twenty
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five percent at least over the last several years, so
we're now at four year lows dollar to dollar adjusted
for inflation. I think gas at two fifty a gallon
what I just paid for, I think that's probably the
cheapest gas has ever been in my life. And I
mean that again, adjusted for inflation. And some of you
out there are going to say, well, it was a nickel,
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you know. Okay, Well, I don't know how that would
it cost back in nineteen forty two when you were
paying a nickel a gallon or whatever the heck it was.
But in my life, two dollars and fifty cents adjusted
best price for gas that I can ever remember seeing
as a function of inflation. That actually be a good graphic.
Maybe one of our team can figure that out. Maybe Chet,
gpt or or GROC can tell you. In fact, I'll
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do that during the break, right after I tell you
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oh man, this blanket's unbelievable. I said, it's Cozy Earth.
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On the Sunday Hang with Clay Buck podcast, Clay Travis
with the Clay and Buck Show wishing you and your
family a very merry Christmas and a happy new Year.
Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you rolling with us through the Wednesday edition of
the program. A couple of things that are out there.
(31:21):
I'm looking right now. We're gonna have Erica Kirk on
the show on Friday. It has been ninety days, Buck,
since there was the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I bring
that up because so many of the attacks on Erica
Kirk have been super nasty, but I have to give
(31:42):
credit two of all people.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Trump was in Pennsylvania yesterday and John Fetterman tweeted this
earlier today. Buck, it's gross and dehumanizing to attack a
widow with young children after just witnessing his public assassination.
It shouldn't be controversial to put our political views aside
(32:05):
and extend the grace for a deeply traumatized family to grieve.
He's referring to this audio, and some of you say, Okay, Clay,
you're giving And I know we talk about this quite
a lot. Buck, You're giving attention to people who don't
deserve it, and I struggle with that sometimes but this
is not a supremely minority view. There are a lot
(32:29):
of people out there in this holiday season that are
attacking the Kirk family, like Jennifer Welch, super left wing podcaster.
Listen to what she said. That is what John Fetterman
credit to him, is responding to.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
But she's abundantly aware of the when you talk about
women and poverty, that black and brown women stick off
the charts more so than white women. This is an
intentional attack on poor women. And this is a dehumanization,
all done in the name of her Lord and savior,
(33:05):
Jesus Christ, which is the exact opposite of what the
central character of the faith of Christianity preached against. So
this is intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
And this she is a grifter. And just look at
the costume changes. Look at the costume change, just look
at the affect and how she does that. It's wild.
(33:28):
This woman sho'd be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
So I have a few things, a few thoughts on
this woman who is getting a lot of attention these days.
She is modern Democrat Party leftism, like built in a laboratory,
and she is essentially the ultimate distillation.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Like if you were to come together and and really
take the the I, the ego, the super ego.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
If you were to look at all of the aspects
of the Democrat Party that have risen to the top
of their hierarchy, and the kind of people who are
calling the shots of the Democrat Party. I just want
to know this absolutely nasty, ignorant, heinous woman is really
(34:28):
the perfect Democrat. She's actually the the distillation. She is purity.
She is the ultimate Democrat female in twenty twenty five
going into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So I just think everybody should take take stock.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Of that from and her popularity, very rapid popularity, speaks
to speak of that that reality that she is a
very you know, internally a deeply sad and really unscrupulous
and nasty and narcissistic human being.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So I think all that is really well said. I
don't think she stands alone. I think it's important to
recognize that she is becoming popular for what she's saying.
I do think also when you call Erica Kirk a
grifter who should be kicked to the curb, and then
obviously she attacked Charlie. If and I hope God forbid,
(35:23):
oh it never happens.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
If someone killed me for something that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I was advocating for in public, at a public event
like this, I would hope that my wife would be
an eloquent voice for the arguments that I was making
after I was gone. Erica Kirk, to me, is trying
(35:50):
to It's the opposite of being a grifter. She's trying
to ensure that her husband did not die in vain
and that the the things that he believed in and
that he stood for are not going to pass with him.
So if anything, and I mean this in a very
sincere way, she is being selfless. It's the opposite of grifting.
(36:15):
To me, advocating on behalf of your spouse who can
no longer advocate for himself is one of the great
aspects of marriage that we should all hope that our
lives would embody. And if your whether you're a husband
or a wife, speaking for someone who has lost their
life in a violent way and standing up for them,
it's not just that she's wrong and nasty buck, It's
(36:38):
that even the logic of her argument is refuted. To me,
what Erica Kirk is doing is a form of selfless
service for her husband's values that otherwise no one else
can articulate as well as her. Does that make sense?
So it's actually the exact opposite. Even if you want
to give this crazy left wing woman the benefit of
(36:59):
excepting her argument, she's actually saying not only awful things,
but even the logic behind her argument. It's the opposite
of what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yes, I think that's I think that's all true, and
and that's why again, the fact that this person has
risen so much in popularity.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
I mean, I will tell you some of the some
of the the podcast.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And and digital creators that I'm seeing that are have
grown to the absolute top of the charts.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think the apocalypse is not I don't know what
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's a little scary, and I won't get into some
I'm not even thinking about anybody on the right specifically
right now. I'm thinking about some of the ones on
the left, and one or two that are sort of
non political. But I'm like, that's the dumbest that that woman.
Uh well, now I'm kind of giving away.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Something is I'll just say no, I'll take I'll take
the onus. No, no, no, I'm you're not thinking of what
I'm thinking of. Okay, you're not thinking of what I'm
thinking of.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I'm thinking of somebody who like tells women about how
they're should function and stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'm like, she was on the Bill maher show. I
don't even think I do.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
This woman has sold millions of books. She knows nothing,
she knows nothing. I do not understand. She's a huge,
huge podcast. Oh this is I think I do know
what is she? Is she the let them chick?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yes? Or is that a different person She's the let
them chick Yes?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, I've I've I've had a few dealings with her
before she had this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
She actually tried to do radio for a while. I
don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Like the population, I generally celebrate people's popular like I've
always seen here, oh man, like what Rogan built was
incredible and and you know, we're always very grateful for
Rush Limbaugh's shoulder, like building the house of talk radio
and shouldering that responsibility in burden for thirty years. And
I think what people do that's greatly successful. But I
(38:52):
want to be able to celebrate it as something that's worthwhile,
even if it's not my thing. You know, people like
some of the true crime podcasts. It's not my cup
of tea. I don't have time for that stuff whatever,
But I can say they're really well done, they're really engrossing.
I've listened to a little bit of them here and there, whatever,
But some of the stuff that is getting really like
this this left wing woman, I can't remember her name,
but when we're talking about and this whole like let
(39:13):
them theory, this is like, this is brain damage, this
is idiocy. I don't know what else to say. I
don't know what people don't understand. I don't understand, like
I don't understand the idea. And again you went to
Blue Sky right after it happened. But I think it's
important to stare at it and recognize that not only
does it exist, it's not some crazy, outlandish not responded
(39:38):
to in a positive way. Take people on the left
that clip we played of the crazy Jennifer Welch chick
tons of mostly women, because I don't think any men
listen to that. Trying to think of a word I
can use without ginness in trouble I don't think that
many men listen to that show.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
There are a ton of left wing women that heard
everything she said about Erica Kirk and they were nodding
along and they were saying preach and they just something
else else, say differends.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
That you're reminding me of this too.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You know, you mentioned like what if something terrible and nothing,
you're gonna be fine, But like theoretically or rather if
we're talking about this, something terrible happened to you. There
are a bunch of us who would absolutely obviously me,
we do a show together three hours a day, we're
co hosts on this show, would go to the mat
and then some against anybody who would attack Laura, attack
(40:34):
your legacy. And yeah, and I'm just gonna say it,
there are some people who are much closer than I.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I wasn't close to Charlie.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
We were friendly, you know, I knew him a bit,
you know, we really I knew him more like ten
years ago when he first got started. But Charlie and
I always got a long fine, and you know, and
I respected a lot of what he had built, but
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
There are people that are really close to.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Charlie who are letting crazy stuff be said and be
said about his wife and be said, and they are
silent on this issue, and people can say, why aren't
you more involved one because, like I said, I didn't
actually know I've never.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Met Erica, so I didn't know Charlie that well.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
So it's and but I'm just saying, you know, you said,
what if something happened to me, I don't know how
I'd be able to sleep at night if people were
saying crazy stuff about Laura after somebody had taken you
out of an assassination. And I'm just sitting there quietly
after being your you know, co.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Host with you for ye.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
No, but I think that's why it's that the attack
is so unfair to me because to me, her being
a voice as she is in public for Charlie is
a form of selflessness. To me, it is what you
would hope that your significant other would be trying to
do or able to do. And certainly it's a credit
(41:47):
to Charlie that his wife is an accomplished.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Cause, yeah, her attacking and she said that the woman
who's attacking her is a psycho. I mean, that's but
I'm saying, but there are people who should be standing
up to the psycho and standing up to some of
the craziness out there on Charlie's behalf. And like I said,
you might well buck what about you, guys, I'm not
Clay and I were not you know, we weren't going
to turning points ends and we were not super close
to Charlie. Again, friends, we liked him, respect what he did.
(42:12):
But there are people who were like Charlie's squad, yeah,
and they're silent on this stuff. And I don't want
to call anybody up by name because it's not about that.
But I just hope that maybe someone will hear this
and be like, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Look what do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Your buddy got taken out and there's lunacy all over
the place, and this woman is going after Charlie's widow.
And you're not gonna You're not gonna take that up.
You're not gonna say to me. John Fetterman spoke out.
I'm sure Fetterman didn't know Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I give him, got a copy of your book Balls,
because Federman's got some.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I mean, good for him, but I mean, when is
the standard when you're going after widows?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And again I think that she is doing an amazing
job speaking out because they tried to keep Charlie from
speaking out, and the idea that you would attack herr
is even even by the standards of accepting that there
is going to be awfulness out there, her being attacked
to the degree that she is is it really has
(43:13):
staggered me and the number of people out there we
know who celebrated Charlie Kirk's death and now also are
calling his widow a grifter who should be kicked to
the curb.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
How dare she?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I just it is a sign of a level of
awfulness that exists on the left that frankly, I do
not believe exists on the right. I don't think any
of you out there if Bucks he's gotten a little
crazy lately. I'm a little sad about what's going on
the right. But that's another conversation. I yeah, well, there's
(43:48):
a lot of craziness out there in general. But if
an innocent person gets assassinated and then his wife is
trying to talk about the things that he cared about,
even if I disagreed with all the politics, I wouldn't
be going I can't imagine that there would be a
similar vein of awfulness directed at the left wing version
(44:08):
of Erica Kirk to the extent that she could exist.
I really don't think it would. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe
it would be just as toxic. I would like to
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Welcome back in here to Clayan Buck.
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You know, Clay, I'm just gonna hand this off to
you because you're you're very fired off about their Australia things.
I'm not even gonna set this one up. I'm gonna
let you set this one up. Australia. It's just gone
into effect. Social media band for children. Tell everybody what's
going on here.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Look, every kid in America is on social media, and
a lot of them are getting on social media at ten, eleven,
twelve years old. They're lying about their age, and it
has been shown to be incredibly destructive to mental health
for so many kids out there and a lot of parents. Frankly,
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because social media just exploded in the last several years,
they didn't really know what they were doing. I think
we're going to look back on much of social media
as a modern day equivalent to smoking, meaning there were
huge risk factors that many people undertook without realizing what
they were getting into. And so recently schools have decided, hey,
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you know what, we're not going to make it standard
that kids consider around most schools with their cell phones
all day long, and overwhelmingly behavior has gotten better, Kids
pay better attention in class, there's less conflict. I think
the standard across the United States. Every state I think
should have the ability to make their own decision on this.
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But I think a standard of kids aren't allowed on
social media until sixteen would be healthy. I would support it.
And you can say, okay, well, kids are still gonna cheat,
and they're gonna make fake, you know, accounts, and they're
gonna lie about their ages and all those things. Yeah,
I get it, but that happens with everything. Where you
said an age limit, it doesn't mean it's going to
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be infallible. I think what would be important buck is
most kids say, now I've got to be on social
media because all my friends are on social media.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I think if you can.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Eliminate that as a standard act where everybody else's kids
aren't on either and kids have to go back to
some form a face to face interaction. Remember, they can
still text, they can still make phone calls, things like
that that you know kids I think have been doing
for some time. I think overwhelmingly mental health would get better.
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I just I think it's a no brainer. I think
Australia has got it one hundred percent right. I'm I'm
curious what this audience would say. I'm going to actually
put up a poll, and maybe there's some kids that
are already out for Christmas that want to call in
and tell me why. I'm an old unk and I'm
wrong about this, but I would support this for my
own kids being kept off social media. We have tried
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to keep them off social media as long as we can.
And look, I've got one that's about to be sixteen
at least in the near future. I've got one that's seventeen.
So they would probably argue with me. In fact, they
know they would. But kids often argue for things that
are not in their best interest. And I think a
standard rule of sixteen and up to get social media,
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just like you have to generally be sixteen to get
a driver's license, would be a good call. Your kids
are young. This will be resolved I think to a
large extent by the time your kids are older. I
think for a lot of us out there that are
parents around my age, social media just kind of exploded
about two thousand and eight and most parents really didn't
know what to do with it. I think we're now
seeing some of the major deletarious impacts that have occurred,
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and we're responding to it in late fashion. But I
think Australia's right. I would support this nationwide. You know,
there's multiple levels here of what's going on. There's the
safety issue where children are being expelled I mean actual
physical safety, right as well as psychological safety, but being
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exposed to predators and all kinds of you know, very
concerning stuff online because at some level online is like
the wild West, right, It's just you can be talking
to somebody, especially with AI now, people can be very
sophisticated about pretending to be somebody that they're not, and
whether it's scammers or predators or a whole range of
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nefarious online entities. Kids, you have to protect the kids.
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From that stuff.
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So that's the first and most important line of this,
I think is the we got to make sure that
your kids aren't being groomed, that the kids aren't being
you know, targeted, and and you know, you don't know
as a parent, right because you think all my kids
home with me, they're safe. You don't realize that they're
making a plan and maybe they're gonna lie to you
about it. I mean, we've all read the stories, we
see what goes on, So that part of it, the
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safety part of it, I'm just all in favor of
and think it makes a whole lot of sense. And
then there's sort of the more social and societal aspect
of it, where you know, this stuff is is a
generally speaking, it's a giant time waster, and it's something
that I think really affects people's ability to not only
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interact with other human beings live and in person, but
also I think it's affecting our attention spans in ways
that are a big problem.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
People now are being trained, like our brains are all
being trained to consume things in sixty or thirty or
even five second bites of information, and that's actually not
a good thing. So I like it on that level
as well. I would want children, kids, adolescens to be
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you know, to to I've basically formed some level of
who they are and some layers of judgment before they
are going online, because the other part of this is
too and what's online kind of lasts forever, as we know.
And I think it's a good thing that if you're
having a bad day as a fourteen year old, you're
not necessarily posting things to a public message board.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Not only that that you can't be reached by other
classmates on social media that everyone can see instantaneously. If
you had an awful experience at high school or in
middle school, when in nineteen eighty eight, you didn't come
home and then have everybody talking about it or posting
a video of it or constantly denigrating you. I just
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this is a no brainer to me. And you mentioned safety.
I saw Marsha Blackburn, Senator from Tennessee, shared this story.
I think it was a report about the New York Post.
And this is something I think you should be talking
to your kids and grandkids about and something that I
talk to my kids about. And if your young kids
out there listening to us right now, you should be
aware of it. Pois in particular, have you seen this
awful story about there are a ton of fake accounts
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pretending to be pretty girls, and they jump in the DM.
They create these fake profiles. They then reach out to
young boys, you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year old boys,
and they start trying to talk to them in a
sexually suggestive manner and eventually get them to send pictures.
And then as soon as the pictures are sent, they
demand payment of money or they say they're going to
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send the pictures to all your friends, all your family.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
There are a bunch of kids, teenage boys that have
committed suicide over this.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
I'm in favor of the death penalty for people to
do this. By the way, I would set them up
in front of a firing squad and not lose a
second of sleep or anything else. If you do this
to a kid like that, you deserve, you deserve to
be ended. I think it should be a death penalty
offense to do this to children.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Now, the problem with that, of course, is that many
of these accounts originate in overseas markets.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I know it's tough to track them down, but I
think I know some veterans. I know some people that
we could get together a little with. With inner poll
we could track these these pieces of absolute vermin down.
And I'm just saying I did this. It's so evil.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
What they do.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
And I truly mean that, I would be in favor
of Congress passing the law that if you if you
engage in sex stortion, which is what they call these
crimes against against children, death penalty.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
I take them out. I don't have a problem with
it at all.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
I mean, we're blowing up, We're blowing up the drug
you know, the drug runners. Yeah, so we find somebody internationally,
you know, whatever, whatever we gotta do. We got to
take care of this because this is it's it's horrible.
There are kids that have committed suicide because of this.
It's the most evil thing. And you want this to stop.
Let people know we're gonna track them down anywhere in
the world and they're really going to pay a price
on this.
Speaker 1 (53:57):
I just put a posted a poll.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I said, I think Australia got it right, by the way,
eight hundred and two two two eight a two. I
think a lot of you are going to have strong
opinions on this. Katie Miller, who just interviewed to Elon Musk,
scheduled to join us at the top of the next hour.
She's a mom of a bunch of kids. I think
she will have a strong take on this, and uh,
I want to see. I'm curious. You can go vote
in the poll. Do you agree with me that Australia
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got it right? Do you disagree? And I understand some
people are going to say, well, this is what parents
need to do, Clay, this is what parenting is all about.
Kids in general are way more sophisticated with social media
than parents are. And the biggest problem I will tell
you that parents are going to have is when the
standard is every other kid is on social media and
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you don't allow your kid on social media, that makes
it harder for parents to keep them off. If the
standard is nobody is allowed on right. If that's the standard,
then there will be far fewer kids that are getting
on social media. And if you told me right now,
we've got a driver's license age of sixteen, that seems
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reasonable to me. Social media seems akin to driving a
car in that you need to have a certain level
of maturity to be able to do it because there
are as Buck was just laying out substantial risk factors
associated with a social media account to say nothing of Well,
we were just talking about sex stortion and all the
awful things that can happen.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
But you can just be a moron, and you can
just do.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Stupid things that get you kicked out of school or
cost you college admissions because you were super, super dumb
when you were thirteen or fourteen years old. I always
like to say, there is no person on the planet
that is dumber and more filled with self confidence that
they are actually brilliant than teenage boys. Teenage boys are
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the dumb and you and I have both been so.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
I thought I was really smart as a teenager, and
then in my twenties I had a lot of humility
heaped on me. So yeah, the fifth teen and sixteen
year old boy is the dumbest creature that is convinced
it is the smartest creature in the history of mankind.
There is no gap in the history of our lives
between reality versus expectation of what you think of yourself
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versus the reality of yourself than a fourteen, fifteen, sixteen
year old boy.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
I think, to the best extent, we can.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Protect morons from being morons, and that is pretty much
every teenage boy. I always like to say, Buck I've
been talking about this for a long time. Difference between
teenage boys and teenage girls. No teenage girls' final two
words or ever. Watch this. The teenage boys are always
trying to get attention, They're always trying to impress girls.
They're always taking risks and doing super stupid things. And
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so this is certainly true for boys. I think for
girls it's even scarier in many ways, buck because teenage
girls are preyed upon even more than teenage boys and
even preteen girls. I mean, there are a lot of
creeps on social media accounts out there, so I think
the standard of sixteen. We'll take a bunch of your calls.
We got loaded lines on this eight hundred two two
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eight a two. This is a big topic as Australia's
band has officially gone into place.
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We have got a ton of you who want to
weigh in on a variety of different topics.
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Let's start here.
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Derek in Arizona says it's the parent's responsibility.
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Ll I'm sixty one years old.
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It's the parent's responsibility to regulate.
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Their kids, period, just like you do your kids.
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Another thing I will awesome say is what's Australia does.
Just think about what they did during the pandemic. I'm sorry,
no making a looking like that here, No, okay.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
So what I would say to the people out there
who say it's the parents' responsibility, it's a very valid argument.
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