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April 29, 2025 36 mins

In hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, the hosts dive into a variety of significant topics, starting with the first 100 days of President Trump's second term. They discuss the transformative and fast-paced changes under Trump 2.0, highlighting major investment commitments totaling over $5 trillion from companies like Apple, Nvidia, TSMC, OpenAI, Oracle, and SoftBank. These investments are expected to generate over 451,000 high-paying jobs, surpassing the achievements of the previous administration.

The conversation shifts to the upcoming Vice President JD Vance in the second hour. The hosts express their excitement about discussing key issues such as men's and women's sports, tariffs, the border, and the Trump administration's economic policies. They also touch on the Philadelphia Eagles' visit to the White House and briefly mention the Canadian election results, expressing limited interest in Canadian politics.

The hosts analyze the impact of Trump's policies on the economy, emphasizing the importance of maximizing energy production and securing significant trade deals. They debate the potential re-election scenarios for past presidents like Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Ronald Reagan, speculating on their chances if they had been eligible to run for a third term.

The discussion includes a critique of the current state of Canadian politics, drawing parallels to California's mismanagement. They highlight the challenges faced by Canadians under liberal leadership and the consequences of high housing prices and poor healthcare.

The hosts also address the importance of Trump not focusing on polling numbers, arguing that his decisions are aimed at long-term benefits rather than short-term popularity. They predict that Trump will be at peak popularity by the end of his term due to the positive impact of his trade agreements and economic policies.

In addition, the show covers the geopolitical tensions between India and Pakistan, emphasizing the significance of maintaining a strong relationship with India to counter Chinese aggression. They discuss the recent terror attack in Kashmir and the potential for escalation between the two countries.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody, Tuesday edition of Play and Buck and it's
one hundred days of Trump into this second term. One
hundred days of Trump, absolutely fantastic stuff to talk about here.
We will dive into all of the latest with the
Trump administration, but also take a look at what has

(00:22):
gone on so far. It has been transformative, it has
been fast and furious, and it is just the beginning.
So we want to take a moment year to see
how it has been and will be on Trump two
point zero and we'll take your calls on this obviously
and have a free flowing conversation about the wins and

(00:45):
the challenges left to be tackled. We've also got JD Vance,
Vice President Advance. Clay and I both will have to
try not to call him JD because we've known him
as JD for years, but now he is vice president
of Vance.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
He will be with us.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We did an interview with him second hour of the program,
so definitely want to tune in talking about all the
big stuff going on right now, everything from men and
women in sports, to tariffs to the border to Trump
two point zero, So definitely second hour diving into that,

(01:20):
looking forward to that conversation for all of you, and
we have more to look at here on the sports
side of things. Play The Philadelphia Eagles went to the
White House, which is very nice. They had a nice time.
From what I understand, the Canadian election didn't exactly go
the way we wanted to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney,

(01:44):
we won't spend too much time on this because well,
very few of you live in Canada, so not really
our problem. There are some we have some Canadian listeners,
but generally I don't know anything about Canadian politics. We
talked some about Pierre Polyev because he had a couple
of viral videos, but once Trump won, I gotta be

(02:04):
honest with you, my interest in what happened in America's
top hat really kind of vanished. I feel bad for
Canadians stuck behind enemy lines, but we're kind of rolling here,
so it's hard for me to get too worked up
about what happens in Canada. I think that's probably the
general perspective. But we do have empathy for those of
you a that are stuck above the border dealing with chaos,

(02:27):
and they say leadership. They didn't learn the lessons of
Trudeau painfully enough. This is what you see in microcosm
in places well, actually I think California has more people
than Canada. But this is what you see in places
like California, where even when there's tremendous mismanagement, you have
Democrats who double and triple down on the madness. Well,

(02:49):
the liberals, the leftists in Canada doubling and tripling down
on the madness. They want everything to be dysfunctional. They
want to have sky high housing prices and a mnemic
economy and all these things. Okay, they want to have
bad healthcare that they tell themselves is great because it's free.
But actually it's not free at all. It's very expensive
when you add the time and the cost and the

(03:11):
inability to get care. But like I said, Canada not
our problem. Not going to be the fifty first state either.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So who cares?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, we care a little bit, but we don't care
that much. Now, one hundred days of Trump and some
exciting things going on.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Let's take it first too.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
This cut to Caroline Levitt talking about what the some
of the top line numbers are for this first one
hundred days of Trump. Two point zero play it so far.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Total investment commitments under the Trump administration have reached more
than five trillion dollars, including five hundred billion from Apple
and US based manufacturing and training, five hundred billion from
Navidia and AI infrastructure, one hundred billion from TSMC and
us BA chips manufacturing, and the five hundred billion dollar
private investment by Open Ai, Oracle SoftBank, and AI Infrastructure

(04:02):
as well. All of these investment commitments are estimated to
generate at least four hundred and fifty one thousand new
high paying jobs for American workers and families. At this point,
President Trump has secured more investments in the United States
of America in one hundred days than Joe Biden did
in four years.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Trump is a deal maker, as we know, Clay, and
we'll talk more about Tariff's last JD vance about that too.
But in terms of the economy being open for business
in this country, and particularly look at things like going
to maximize trying to maximize energy production, going after our
own resources, a lot to be proud of so far

(04:43):
in one hundred days, totally, And some people are going
to say because the negative, given that we're at a
one hundred day is going to be Hey, let's look
at the polling numbers. Here's what I would say about
the polls. First of all, I don't really care, and
you might say, Okay, what do you mean by that?
Trump is not going to be eligible to run for reelection?

(05:05):
So I suspect that by the time Trump's term is
coming near an end, that he will be on a
popularity upswing, like we saw with Barack Obama and with
Bill Clinton. By and large, did you sign on to this,
Buck that the only two two term presidents that could

(05:27):
have been reelected if they had been able to run
would have been Bill Clinton in two thousand and Barack Obama,
I think would have won in two thousand and sixteen,
now maybe not. I also think Ronald Reagan, if he
had been able to run in nineteen eighty eight, even

(05:49):
with his advanced age, would have likely won two. I
think Trump will be at his peak popularity. Here's a
three year in advance prediction. Trump in the fall of
twenty twenty eight will be at peak popularity because the
impact of his trade agreements and of his economic policies

(06:12):
will be flourishing at a high level. I think we
will have peace, and I think that if Trump were
eligible to run for a third term, that he would
win again in twenty twenty eight. I think it very
attory early a lot of we can't test the thesis
one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean, I think Bill Clinton.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Is incredibly lucky as a politician, the luck that that
guy had on a whole range of things. But if
he had been in office when nine to eleven actually happened,
the straight line between him being an imbecile on foreign
policy and missing every chance and US getting hit with
the worst attacks in Pearl Harbor would have been irrefutable,
even for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Also, the stock market crash also a.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Lot of things this guy got out, But justin you
disagree that he would have one.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I think he would have beaten George W. Bush. I
don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I think he would have won. I think Reagan would
have won an eighty eight. This is an argument in
favor Regan. Reagan would have been too Reagan would have
been too old at that point. That would have been
a problem for him. I think he would have won
because the only reason that George Bush Senior one was
because Reagan was so beloved, and obviously Ducacas was not
a candidate. You don't think Ronald Reagan would have beaten

(07:26):
Ducacas in eighty eight. Even Reagan, he would have won. You,
I mean, if you're throwing in the mix, like who
he's going up against? You know, Barack Obama though running
Barack Obama runing against Donald Trump. Actually don't think Barack
Obama would have won. I think Trump, I think I
think I think he would have won that election. I
think that Obama would have beaten Trump in sixteen. Well
remember not You and I disagree vociferously on remember Hillary.

(07:50):
First of all, I don't think Trump would have been
the nominee necessarily, but Hillary came within whatever it was
eighty that Hillary was an awful candidate, right, awful candidate
she was. I mean even Democrats looking back, they're like, man,
you know she just I don't know who she would
have been able to beat. I think Trump was a
great candidate against her. Ran a phenomenal campaign. But I

(08:13):
actually think the best campaign Trump ran was twenty four.
Of his three election campaigns, sixteen was phenomenal. I think
he was so well schooled by twenty four. Sixteen was
more haphazard. I think that this one was great. Again,
We're sixteen was was insurgency. He was the insurgency against

(08:35):
the machine, and just like happened sometimes in real life,
the insurgency overcame the superior force in terms of battlefield operations.
And then in twenty four it was the comeback campaign,
so the Great American Comeback, which so the narratives I
think were pretty clear in both of those. And then
twenty twenty was the COVID you know, freak show what

(08:58):
the hell is going on? Campaign for everybody, and I
know all the other stuff quote unquote shenanigans. We won't
talk about it right now, but anyway, Clay, I think
that Trump's first one hundred days, here's what we have
to remember about it. We wanted him to do the
things we want him to do, the things that he
promised to do, and some of those things are disruptive,

(09:19):
and disruptive things can be a little bit off putting
sometimes to the markets. It can feel a little bit
you can create a little bit of anxiety among people
because oh wait, it's not exactly status quo is comfortable.
This is why so often, and particularly in politics, I
think people get into inertia. Well, this is the way

(09:40):
it is, so, this is the way it will be.
This is the way we've done things, so let's keep
doing it that way. Trump isn't running again. I know
he jokes about the third term. That's the troll Libs.
It's like the fifty first state Canada. That's the troll,
you know, Canada and Trudeau and the rest of them. Clay,
he's not running again. We need him to do the
things that a politician who's obsessed with his next election

(10:01):
won't do.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, And this is what is so key.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's why I'm saying the polling I'm not focused on
if he were trying to run for reelection. I think
you'll look at polling and you think about how that's
going to play out. He is uniquely liberated to do
what he thinks the right results are without having to
worry about the day to day polling. And by the way,
that is potentially going to run out in twenty twenty six,

(10:27):
when they're likely going to impeach Trump again. If Democrats
take back control of the House, they don't have anything
new to hit him with, so expect for them to
go back to the tried and true, failed methods of
the past. We've already seen it with them trying to
broadcast and attack him by saying he's hitler. I think
where we are likely headed is Trump has got to

(10:49):
get everything done between now and the summer of twenty
twenty six, and then we will see the House come
down to five or six different really close races, and
Democrats are either going to have a tiny minority or
Republicans are going to have a tiny majority. Right, tiny leadership.
I think that we're going to see in the Senate

(11:12):
good stuff. Republicans are going to maintain control of the Senate.
So for judges things like that, Trump is going to
have four years to get his view of the judiciary through,
get as many different judges confirmed. But in order to
have both control of the House and the Senate, he's
got to be fast. He's got to be decisive, and

(11:33):
I think that's what you're seeing right now, and sometimes
that's going to make people a little bit upset. So
that's why I'm not concerned about any of the polling
to the extent it's accurate as we sit here at
one hundred days, because he's making decisions that are multi
years in nature. Well, yes, and this is why I
want Trump to not care about the polls right now,
because the polls in a year as they pertain to

(11:56):
the midterms and the Republican Party in its future, will matter.
The polls right now do not matter at all. In fact,
all the polls really do is give a talking point
to anti Trump media and the Democrat Party that want
to create a perception of Oh, this isn't working, Oh
this is failing. Trump should not be doing the things

(12:17):
that he's doing. He's doing what he promised to do
when he ran. He said he would take on the
terriff issue. He said he would get a peace deal
between Russia and Ukraine. He said he'd secure the border.
You know, I could go down the whole list. He's
doing the things he said he would do. Some of
these things are, as we've said, a departure from the
status quo. They are disruptive and so clay by their

(12:40):
very nature, they're going to create.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
A little bit of friction and a little bit of uncertainty.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
If you don't want that, you don't want change, you
don't want someone to fix anything. You just want more
of the same. I think we all need to remember
that the first one hundred days has been a plus.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Overall. It's not perfect.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Nothing ever will be and there's no certainties, there's no
guarantees in life. But he's doing what he said he
would do, and he I think he should have our
full support as he continues to pursue that mandate. If
he had veered off into nonsense, I'd be saying, why
did he veer off into nonsense?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's not what has happened.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I also think, and we'll talk about this more, the
next one hundred days or so are set up to
be incredibly consequential. Hopefully we get some form of resolution
in Ukraine, more resolution in Gaza, and again inflation, which
to me, I'll hit you when we come back, Buck
with what the American public from an economic perspective is
most focused on, and inflation is at four year lows.

(13:40):
To me, that is the number one laser focus. After
Biden took us over nine percent, people still feel like
things cost more than they should. Tomorrow, evening Israel begins
celebrating their own Independence Day seventy seventh anniversary. Is a
nation and like our Independence Day, it should be a celebration.
But this year, once again, it's going to be tense.

(14:01):
For the majority of people living in Israel. Freedom nothing
more than a daily struggle just to survive. There's no
real peace, only hesitation and fear of when another missile
attack might arrive. It's difficult to find moments of joy
when there is so much danger and suffering out there.
The Israeli government appreciates the International Fellowship of Christians and

(14:22):
Jews because they're helping to make sure the elderly, the sick,
the wounded soldiers and impoverished families they don't fall through
the cracks. I saw all the work that the Fellowship
does when I was in Israel during December. We can provide,
thanks to you guys, life saving a medicine, hearty meals
safety and comfort. When we bless the people of Israel,

(14:43):
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(15:05):
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
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(16:32):
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I've got a poll that is up right now, and
you guys can go vote in that asking what letter
grade would you give President Trump on the first one
hundred days. Twenty seven thousand people have voted so far,
and nearly eighty percent seventy nine percent of you have

(17:08):
given an A or a B to the first one
hundred days of the Trump administration. I would give them
an A. You said you would give them an A plus.
I think you can. You can break it down by
subject matter, the board, if you're really if.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
You're really going to hold me to this, Yeah, the
border clue is in A plus.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Look, I would say A as well, just because you've
always got to leave some room for improvement and nothing
is perfect. But yeah, I give them an A. I
give the first hundred days of Trump in twenty sixteen
a B. And I went the time year much messier,
the personnel issues it was not. You know, look, he
was new.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
He would have been.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I don't think Trump would even say that what he
knew that wasn't his a game, So I would say
it was a b And I think you can break
it down on different subject matters, as our friend Bill
O'Reilly has said, and we'll do that as we can
you during the course of the program. We don't throw
around the term sovereign wealth fund very often, but funds
of this type do exist. Ten states have one set up.

(18:09):
In fact, the fund takes the net proceeds of a
natural resource that's been sold and distributes the money to residents. Now,
imagine that there's such a set up nationwide within our country,
harnessing the value of one of our nation's greatest assets.
Up until now, it's never happened. In our nation's case.
There are more than a few very well informed people
who believe that our nation has an asset worth one
hundred and fifty trillion dollars buried on American soil and

(18:32):
could be the basis for creating such a fund. This endowment,
so to speak, could pay off our national debt four
times over. So why has it been kept secret for
so long? Thanks to a Supreme Court decision, President Trump
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(18:55):
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All right, welcome back into Clay and office. A reminder,
we've got Vice President JD Vance at the top of
the next hour, so you definitely.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Want to stick around for that. Man.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I remember when I was I was telling Clay this morning.
I remember when I was texting JD good luck and
then congrats when he won his Senate seat, which I
don't think was a big surprise, but it was certainly
he was a political newcomer, and from that to Vice
President has been quite a speedy process. So an incredible story,

(19:28):
and I think JD's personal story, his life story, is
something that should be celebrated by all Americans because it
really is the American dream.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
You can come from a difficult you could argue a
very much disadvantaged upbringing. If you've read Hillbilly elogy, as
Clay and I have, you certainly see that, and then
you become a wealthy venture capitalist with a beautiful family
who is the vice President of the United States, not
because of who mom and dad are, not because of
any you know, any superficial character, just from ability hard work.

(20:03):
We'll talk to him about Ohio State Yale law, which
is a pretty big part of both of that that
resume of success. And yet to your point, he was
in a really difficult Republican primary that for people who
have forgotten how that race went. Until Donald Trump endorsed him,
it was unclear who was going to be the victor

(20:26):
in that primary and ended up pretting pretty close even
even with the endorsement. Isn't it an amazing you think
about some of these I'm weaving. I feel like I
have to start giving that like a like a warning
before I'm weaving. But isn't it an amazing how the
stories of American success that are celebrated. When you really

(20:47):
start to pick this apart, you can see how obviously partisans,
so much of this is jd. Vance is attacked by
people now who don't like him or don't support him
as a fat cat venture capitalists, you know, in with
Trump and and you know friend of Peter Teele and
all this stuff, and you go, this kid had a
drug addicted mother and beat all of the odds. But

(21:11):
I just I want to point out, I mean, you
look at someone like, uh, Justice Thomas.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
For example, Justice Thomas.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Grew up speaking a dialect from the islands off of Georgia.
Some of you, I forget what it's called. Some of
you are Gulla. Thank you, Gulla speaking Gulla and had
a dirt floor in his house and is now a
I mean they obviously the left disagrees a giant of

(21:39):
the Supreme Court. You want to talk about coming from
humble beginnings, right, I mean you can do. But notice
if you if you are a constitutionalist, a conservative, you
know your stories and then they tell us, Oh, Obama,
for example, look at look at Obama's personal story. Grew
up in Hawaii and was kind of like waved into
Harvard and made the he said, there you go. I

(22:01):
don't know, I mean, I don't think it's as impressive
as some of these other guys. But all the you know,
dreams from my father and all this stuff, like it's
just all partisan to them, right, the great American success
story doesn't count if you were on the right. That's
essentially my thesis here and for everybody who's connected to him.
I mentioned this earlier, but it should I have not

(22:22):
read this piece. Maybe there is somebody who has written it,
and if so, you can tag me. I would love
to read it. He and his wife just toured India.
I believe they have three kids. His wife is an
incredibly accomplished woman too. She went to Yelle Law School.
My understanding is that's where they met. They went to India.
She is an immigrant, her family are legal immigrants. And

(22:45):
there was almost nothing written about the fact that he
took his wife as vice president on a state visit
to India and the connection that that likely inspired.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Can you imagine, buck?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Just think if if you're an Indian kid and you
suddenly are looking around and the vice president is touring
your country and his wife has family that is all
from India. India is now the most populous country in
the world. Right, I believe it has past China and
is now the most populous country in the world. Can
you imagine the cultural connection that that likely created. Jade

(23:23):
Vance half Indian kids, half white kids, and nobody's even
mentioned it, right, I mean, if he were a Democrat
and he was taking his wife, who was an Indian
immigrant back her family and they were visiting that country.
It would have been the lead story for the entire
trip that they were there. Almost no one even mentioned it,

(23:47):
and yet it feels to me like a compelling part
of his and his family story as well. We have
had two biracial vice presidents, as we know, Kamala Harris
the most most recent, But do you remember the first
one all the time, the first biracial president, vice president

(24:07):
vice president. Yes, TikTok TikTok Clay. This is a very tough.
This is very tough. This is not this is not
an easy one. I no, I don't even know Charles Curtis.
Under Herbert Hoover. He was a member of the Call
Nation in the so he's Native America. He's partially like
half Native American. Essentially, Is this like Elizabeth Warren Native American?

(24:32):
Or are we confident? I don't want to throw him
under the bus here, no officially recognized member of the tribe.
I don't think anybody not like one fourth Native American
like I am.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm sure you are too.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I am Elizabeth Warren and I did not get to
check that box to get into Harvard, much to my chagrin.
But yeah, so the Charles Curtis fun fun trivia for
all of you. Here the thirty first vice president the
United States. It's under Herbert Hoover. He is the first
biracial vice president. Kamala Harris is the second biracial vice president.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
But JD.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Vance's family is biracial, which is what makes me think
of this which you never hear, and he.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
And they just India. Are you with me?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
That feels like it was kind of a compelling thing.
There's a billion people in that country. I imagine it
was a big story. There almost no blip here. The
more the US can have. India is a multi confessional,
you know, multi multi ethic, to say, multi lingual. It's
just I think there's three hundred plus languages or some
crazy number of languages spoken there.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
But India is a is a.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Multi religious, multi racial democracy that we absolutely want to
have as good a relationship with as we can. Because
if you want to talk about somebody that can hem
in you know, boxing Chinese aggression and ambition, you know,
India plays a very important role of this. Now, of course,
India and Pakistan, as I've mentioned on the show or

(25:59):
at each other. There's throats right now. This is I
saw this yesterday. I couldn't believe that it was real,
but it is real. At that terror attack that happened
where it's KASHMIRI separatists on behalf of Pakistan. I know
Pakistan says they're not, but they are. Okay, Pakistan, consume me.
They had a terror attack killed twenty six people. There's

(26:21):
a guy on a zipline. I check this out. This
seems to be real, Clay. It looked like it was
an AI video at first. A guy on a zipline
in this area of Kashmir. He is going on the
zip line and he is videoing it himself like almost
like a selfie video. And there are people falling from
being shot below him in the terror attack in real time.

(26:42):
It is a gut punch video. I mean, it is crazy.
But India and Pakistan are at each other's throats right
now in a way that look it'll probably be a
limited military incursion.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't think it's going to escalate to nuclear war.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
But when you have two countries with deep antagony against
each other, that share a border, that have territorial disputes,
that have long standing you know, violence issues between the
anyway that this could this could escalate, this could become
a real problem, all right. I thought that Charles Curtis
though trivia question for all of you would be it

(27:16):
would be an I never I don't think I've ever
heard that.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Well, you know that's what you know what I mean,
that's the Buckster likes to keep you on your.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Toes man, you know, just just sitting here, sitting here
dropping civil war knowledge all the time. We got to
bring you into the Herbert Hoover administration a little bit. Okay,
now let's get back to uh. Does anyone remember anything
about Herbert Hoover, by the way other than womp wamp
not the damn and womp womp the economy. I will
say I've visited Stanford, the Hoover Institute, very positive like

(27:47):
what he did at that university where he is in
a lum. I didn't remember the connection there, but they
have a you've been a guest right at the Hoover
Institute that I was a camp a media a media
fellow for a week at Hoover Institute. Hoover is a
great play with some fantastic scholars. So yes, thank you
for reminding me of that. I don't want to see
him ungrateful to the Hoover Institute. But who for the
presidency had some issues. Okay, let's talk about this presidency again.

(28:11):
The weaving is done. Scott Bessant. He is a guy
who I think a lot of people who are focused
on the markets in the economy are happy is involved
in this administration. This guy knows this stuff at a
high level. He is very People within the industry recognize
he is very smart. And here he is saying a

(28:32):
few things. First of all, let's get to the Chinese tariffs.
Actually first, this is cut four Scott Bessant, talking in
advance of the one hundred day anniversary hit it.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I think that over time we will see that the
Chinese terrorists are unsustainable for China. I saw I've seen
some very large numbers over the past few days the show.
If these numbers stay on, Chinese could lose ten million
jobs very quickly, and even if there is a drop
in the tariffs that they could lose five million jobs.

(29:02):
So remember that we are the deficit country. They sell
almost five times more goods to us than we sell
to them, So the onus will be on them to
the take off these tariffs. They're unsustainable for them.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Bestin is saying they're going to have to blink on
this one, and I you know, look, Trump is a brawler,
and maybe he gets a little ahead of his skis sometimes.
But when Trump and best and are aligned on something,
I think people can feel pretty confident that we have
the upper hand here well, and I think they're going
to be smart about the way they start to roll
out these tariff agreements with a lot of countries that
we have good relationships with, whether it's Japan, we just

(29:44):
had the Italian president Maloney, I believe, come and visit.
That feels very likely England is going to happen quickly.
A lot of these deals are going to be I think,
hammered out very rapidly. And then we're going to you see,
who has a higher basic, basic willingness to have a

(30:06):
little bit of pain, And again it should be China
having way more pain than us because they rely on
exporting goods to the United States way more than the
United States relies on exporting goods to China. And we'll
talk about this with the Vice President because one of
the challenges about US China trade policy is the fact

(30:31):
that we have a situation where China produces materials that
we have to have rare earth, minerals, variety of different aspects.
It's one thing to choose whether or not you want
to buy a cheap pair of pants on a fashion
app from China or not. Most people are going to
be fine with that. But China thinks they have us

(30:52):
over necessary goods that they create. So that's going to
create another aspect of this battle. But really China is
the one that has a lot more to lose here,
and so will they blink, well, we get a more
rapid resolution than maybe some anticipate. I think that's likely.
I think also Trump has shown that part of the

(31:15):
strategy here is to isolate China and to make everybody
take a moment, take a beat. I'm talking about the
rest of the world are allied countries and look at
what China is really doing and understand this is not
the status quo. Is not okay, right, That's what people
The problem with the free trader mantra here is they

(31:37):
act like we have free trade. Why is Trump messing
it up with China? And we absolutely do not have
free trade with China at all. We have a one
way trade war. We have China waging trade war against us,
and all the IP theft and intellectual property theft and
all of the ways that they rig the system to

(31:59):
get mac some benefit for China.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
There's no such thing other way.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
This is just true of the Chinese Communist Party in general,
and this is the way their economy functions. Clay, There's
no such thing as fair. China doesn't care about fair
or honest or this is the way it is. It's
what benefits China. So we've been lulled into this false
sense of like, well, they're doing it their way, we're
doing it our way, and everything is fine. No, the

(32:23):
status quo is not good for us over the long run,
and addressing that requires a little bit of growing pains,
no doubt, just as we thought it was. In fact, Clay,
wouldn't it be weird if we try to do this
with China? And there were no reactions in the markets,
and there was no sense of oh gosh, we're doing something.
You know, if you're not going to take risk, you're not.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Going to get reward.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, yes, and this is also what I said about
Trump not making decisions based on the short term because
he's not focused on re election right now, which is
why I'm not very concerned with what the immediate reaction is.
In the larger marketplace, the president president's running for reelection,
you sit there and you say, oh boy, let's figure

(33:04):
out how exactly this is going to play out right now.
I think Trump is playing the long game, and he
can afford to play the long game because he doesn't
have to worry about being reelected. I think he's making
decisions that he believes are important for decades to come.

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Speaker 1 (34:39):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show coming up
in about ten minutes. Top of the next hour. We'll
be joined by Vice President JD. Vance on the one
hundredth day of the Trump Vance administration to talk about
a variety of different subjects, the border trade, tariff deals,
district court judges and the power that they bring to bear,

(35:03):
unfortunately in our opinion, to try and stop Trump two
point zero. Also men and women's sports, all those issues
and more coming up the top of the next hour.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
And I do think as more and more of you
are pouring.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
In and voting on Hey, would you give an A, A, B,
A C, or D or an F right on the
poll eighty percent of you roughly A or B. I
do think we can start to have conversations buck two
about hey, next one hundred days, what should the focus be?
And I'll share some of this in hour two. There

(35:39):
is a pull out of the top economic issues that
people are most concerned about, and I'll just go ahead
and tease this inflation is overwhelmingly still the issue that
most Americans care the most about, even though it has
begun to come back. I think there's still a lot
of anger over what things cost as a result of

(35:59):
the inflation that Biden put in place, and that, to
me is still the number one economic focus in most
of the conversations I see, and I think it's reflected
in what the data shows. Vice President jad Vance coming
up with us here in just a few minutes, where
to cover all of the big issues.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Of the day, the tariffs, the border.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Probably talk to him about some of the football things play,
some of the things up for football, So we'll get
into all the stuff that really matters with him.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Also, want to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
How do you judge the first hundred days, Your favorite things,
things you might improve on, light us up on the
phone lines. Also the talkbacks. Remember you go to the
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to our podcast network because it's amazing and there's so
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(36:52):
President of the United States, jd. Vance up with us
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