October 15, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck tackle the most pressing political and cultural issues dominating headlines. The hour begins with a deep dive into Day 15 of the Schumer-led government shutdown, examining its economic toll, the political brinkmanship behind it, and why Democrats are being blamed for holding up funding. They highlight the real-world impact on military families and federal workers, with warnings that the shutdown could cost the U.S. economy up to $15 billion per day.
The hosts scrutinize Democratic leadership struggles, focusing on Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries’ efforts to maintain control amid fears of primary challenges from progressives like AOC. They connect the shutdown to upcoming political events, including the “No Kings” rally, and discuss how Democrats lack a clear message heading into the 2026 midterms.
Clay and Buck also explore a potentially landmark Supreme Court case that could outlaw racial gerrymandering, reshaping congressional maps and influencing future elections. They analyze how this ruling, combined with census changes and debates over counting illegal immigrants, could shift House representation and electoral votes toward red states.
The conversation then pivots to Kamala Harris’ controversial claim that she was “the most qualified candidate ever” for president, sparking a broader critique of identity politics and DEI-driven leadership. Clay argues that liberal white women are driving the woke movement, while Buck underscores Kamala’s disconnect with voters.
Cultural trends take center stage as the hosts discuss record-breaking sports ratings for MLB playoffs, college football, and the NFL, framing them as signs of national unity under Trump’s presidency. They also address the sharp decline in teens identifying as transgender or non-binary, calling it a cultural turning point and criticizing gender reassignment surgeries for minors. Upcoming clips teased include Keira Knightley’s reaction to JK Rowling protests and a California candidate’s bizarre proposal for gender-neutral Olympics.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Shut Down Day fifteen, I think,
and things are actually heating up a little bit on
Capitol Hill and with the Schumer shut down, Democrats trying
to play a bit of hardball. You had Speaker Johnson
(00:23):
holding a press conference this morning. I watched it as
I was drinking my delicious krack at coffee, as one does,
and that I'm glad that you're watching these press conferences,
so others do not be hab to watch these press conferences,
because that sounds miserable. We still haven't figured out what
like nice you know, wine and cheese basket you're gonna
send me for being the one of this duo to
(00:44):
read Kamalas one hundred and seven days Clay, that was
towards you finished. Yeah, oh, I read it on the
on the Taiwan plane. I read it, and my lord,
you know it's every day is a chapter. Think about that,
think about the mentality or rather every chapter? Yeah, every chapter.
And so you're like, wait, I have Once you get
deep enough in, you're like, I have seventy more chapters.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Of this.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Organized. I guess it's very simple to organize in that respect.
But so it's just a minute analysis of the entire campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Then I'm just saying, you're leaving some of us behind
taking slings and arrows. While you're out there at the
beach at the new house. Some of us are reading
Kamala's memoir because you know team player and all that,
you know it was. It was actually more brutal than
I thought. Let's get into the realities of this shutdown
and what is at stake. Also China, China saying that
(01:38):
they are going to play hardball with Trump on trade,
gearing up for what they think will be another stock
market plunge. They're going to try to make the market
plunge in this country. So we'll discuss that and then
something else, just a story in the background for us
to dive into as we can. The percentage of students
identifying as non binary or trans has suddenly fallen off
(02:03):
a cliff. Isn't that so interesting? And we will get
into why that is and what, of course the left
will be saying about this. We've also got Ryan Gerdusky
joining us later on the program, but talk about the
big elections coming up in a few weeks and then
we'll also be talking a bit of California, my friend,
(02:23):
we'll be having a California discussion with Steve Hilton, who
is running for Governor's there.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Also, as we are talking to all of you, there's
actually a very potentially transformative Supreme Court case that is
being argued basically about majority black districts and how you
reconcile that with the equal Protection Clause. And there is
a possibility, and it is not an insignificant one, that
(02:52):
we could see all racial Jerrymanderin declared unconstitutional as a
part of this court case, and so there's questioning going
on about that right now, and it could be incredibly
incredibly impactful for what, for instance, the House is going
to look like in twenty twenty six. Because right now,
(03:14):
and this is legal nerding a little bit, there is
a balancing act between how you apply the Civil Rights Act,
which has been applied to basically permit these majority black districts,
even require them, while also analyzing it in the context
of the of the sort of equal protection clause which
(03:36):
would not allow race to be factored in, and then
how is it implicated with for instance, affirmative action in
race based decision making as it pertains to colleges and universities.
So it's a big case, and I think there is
a possibility the Supreme Court finally says, once and for all,
racial gerrymanagering is unconstitutional. It's certainly not necessary compared to
(03:59):
the nineteen six these and so that case is being
heard right now as we all talk to you, and
that could be profoundly transformative.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I think that our guiding light is it load star?
Isn't that how you say?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is that the load star?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I know there's the loan there star State, but isn't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There's a load star.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
There's also the North Star as the light upon which
you should follow. So there's multiple different stars that are
guiding lights.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, look at Clay with the astronomy over here, he's
a man of many talents. Where's many hats. But yes,
our load star on this, on all these issues, should
be the best way to stop discriminating by race is
to stop discriminating by race, which I'm pretty sure is Alito?
Was that Alito? Or was that I think it was
John Roberts. I think it was the majority opinion of
(04:44):
John Roberts, if I remember correctly, If You guys can
go back and do fact check on that, but I
think Roberts were at that majority opinion, and that's his line.
You know, balls and strikes. Sometimes even Morning Joe gets
it right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
All right, Now, let's dive into this shutdown brinksmanship here
for a second, because what's happened Klayce. So we're in
day fifteen. You've got military members, and you've got people
who are working for the government in things we actually
need and want the government to do, who at this
point have missed a paycheck. Right, most people are paid
(05:20):
bi weekly, so now if you are paycheck to paycheck,
there's no money. So now you're running up credit card bills,
and now the family stress is increasing. And it's very
important that the American people understand Republicans were ready to
do the same funding that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats
voted for what was the last March. I think they're
(05:41):
willing to just keep funding the government. Democrats are holding
hostages here. Democrats are the ones that won't go forward
and do this in a reasonable rational way. And the
Treasury Secretary Scott Vessen is saying this is just going
to start lighting our money as a country on fire
if we don't get this thing at all. This is
cut to Secretary Besant play it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
We call on the moderate Democrats in the Senate to
be heroes, be heroes, break away from the hive of radicalism,
and do something for the American people, because we are
starting to cut into muscle here. We believe that the
shutdown may start costing the US economy up to fifteen
billion dollars a day. And this is a decision that
(06:25):
Democrats are making. And one of the reasons that they
are not being held to task is because the mainstream
media is not coming at them the way they would
have if the Republicans were willing to keep the government clothed.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's absolutely true. Now they don't have play. I think
we could agree the same power that they once did
to completely shape and dominate the narrative on this. But
we do know that if this was a different circumstance,
the Democrats would be pounding the damage of the shutdown
all that I'm sorry, the media would be pounding the
(07:00):
shutdown damage all day long and making sure that it
was front and center in every newscast, in every news cycle.
But it's on the Republicans, I'm sorry. On the Democrats, yes,
one hundred percent, and I just I understand there's starting
to be some impact. I have the sneaking suspicion they're
(07:20):
doing another one of these stupid no Kings rallies this weekend,
I believe buck for all of the people who are
complete losers and can't find a better way to fit
to spend a spectacular fall weekend than walking around screaming
about how you don't support Kings, I think they're waiting
till after the No Kings rally happens because they don't
want to try to strip its momentum to actually preach
(07:44):
in agreement. That's my conspiracy theory here, because if you
acquiesce and bend the knee on the Friday before the
No Kings rally, then everybody's like, do have Kings?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh by? And all of.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
This is about Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jack Freeze trying
to maintain their limited House and Senate authority and off
stave off everybody out there. And so I think that's
really what this is based on more than anything else.
And I suspect that they will bend the knee sometime
(08:18):
next week, that's my guess. I also think Trump stole
so much of the thunder with the Middle East peace agreement.
I just don't even hear that many people asking about this.
Does anybody come up to you? People come up and
ask all sorts of questions. When I'm out and about,
nobody's asking about the shutdown. And I understand people out
(08:39):
there who have government jobs, and some of you are
listening to us. You're gonna get paid, and so there
isn't any suggestion that eventually you're not gonna get paid. Now,
maybe you don't have savings, and I get that's frustrating
you have to pull out the credit cards and things
like that. But this is all Democrat driven, and I
think it's much connected to this No King's rally on
(08:59):
the a teenth, where they're trying to avoid creating a
stir by bending the knee before the rally. I really
think there's a big part of it that's just predicated
on this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's definitely. I think the analysis you put forward on
next week sounds very reasonable, very likely to me. And
as we're seeing where this goes, remember Republicans have voted
nine times to reopen the government so the Republicans have said,
let's go. They're not the ones that are the sand
in the machinery or in the gears.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It is the Democrats who have sabotaged the reopen and
it is because now they say they want another one
point five trillion dollars in spending.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They're in the minority.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
They shouldn't be in a position to make these kinds
of demands, and they are making demands at the expense
of right now good sense and a lot of people
who anxiety is rising. Look, you know, Clay, I get it.
People are going to get paid. But having been a
government employed who lived paycheck to paycheck for many years,
you know you don't want to run up credit card bills, right,
(10:05):
And it's it's just an anxiety if you're you know,
you've got a family, I mean, you've got a couple
of kids. Uh, there's that anxiety of I did my part,
I'm showing up. And remember this is now we're talking
not about people who there's a lot of what I
call low show jobs in the federal government, especially in
the Beltway, where you show up, you don't show up,
it doesn't really matter. We're talking about military service members.
(10:28):
Now we're talking about people that we have as a society,
as a country, asked to do these jobs because they
need to be done, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Know we're gonna end up paying them.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But the Schumer shutdown is just complete theatrics. It's unnecessary,
and it's to your point about the No Kings rally.
It's just so they can say we stand and fight,
we stand and fight Trump, and that Chuck Schumer can
say that so that AOC doesn't go from Congresswoman AOC
to Senator AOC.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
This is not based on what's best for the country.
It's based on what's best for the Democrat Party. And
I don't think it's lost that. Essentially, you have two
guys from New York City that are the top Democrats
in elected office right now. One of them obviously Hakeem Jefferies,
who is I think a middling at best leader for
the Democrat Party. Whatever you think of Nancy Pelosi, she
(11:18):
was able to corral heard the cats, dominate them, and
strategically she had some sort of vision. Chuck Schumer, I
think also very middling level leader in the Senate, and
they recognize that they are being challenged. Look there's talk
out there that one of Mamdani's top political aids is
(11:40):
going to challenge Hakeem Jeffries in the midterm and may
take try to win that primary and knock him out
of being in Congress at all, which is a sign
of how little respect they have for his leadership to
challenge in a serious way the Democrat minority leader. And then,
as you just mentioned, Chuck Schumer lives in eternal fear
(12:01):
of AOC deciding she wants to be a senator and
wiping him out. So I think that's really what this
entire government shut down is about. Schumer upset the crazy
left wing when he agreed to this back in March,
and he's decided he can't do it again.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
What does Schumer do if he wakes up and he's
not a senator anymore? Lawn bowling, Madjong, New York Times
crossword puzzle.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Like, what is you know?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Schumer at this stage of the game play, His whole
thing is he's just got.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
To be in the game.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
This is why I argue in an ideal world, there
would not be professional politicians, because there would be people
who do things other than politics, and so if they're
not politicians anymore, their life doesn't feel as if it's
without purpose. I think one reason why so many of
these politicians in their seventies and eighties are refusing to
step away is they don't have anything else. And I
(12:55):
think Chuck Schumer is a good example of that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think the one thing Chuck Schumer has working in
his face. I don't know that AOC wants to run
for statewide office in New York. I think she wants
to run for president in the United States. So Chuck
Schumer may benefit because AOC's ambitions are bigger than the
office that he currently holds. That would be my forecast,
and I think you and I both have said we
don't think it's crazy to contemplate AOC as the VP
(13:19):
nominee with a Governor Gavin Newsom as the nominee.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
For his was AOC a more dynamic personality and online
avatar by leaps and bounds than Kamala who was just
a VP under Biden. Not even a question right, So
of course she.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Could be the VP.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And she's got the Bernie Sanders stamp of approval, as
Bernie is now frankly too old to ever run for
president again. We'll take some of your calls, the talkbacks,
little early preview. Don't even look at them, Buck, they're hysterical.
As you may well remember from yesterday when I made
the greatest argument in the history of the show about
the worst way to die, and a lot of you
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(14:01):
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Fuck your girl, Kamala,
you just spent one hundred and seven days with her.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
She says.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Some people have said I was the most qualified candidate
ever to run for president. This is what she said
last night Cut twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That is decent, but that is a decent resume. But
go ahead there.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well, some people have actually said I was the most
qualified candidate ever to run for president.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I like yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I like this.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Some people say, very nice, but go ahead, I'm just
speaking fact.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Some people say that you and I Buck are the
most handsome people that ever do radio. Smartest too, Condon.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
People are saying.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Some people are saying, I don't even think Kamala caught
that she did a Trump is in there, but the
interviewer did.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I would say this about it, Clay.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
If you and you know this, if you have to
tell people how qualified you are for anything, you're probably
not that qualified for it.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
If you have to make a thing of I'm so
qualified to people who know you and know your background.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Are you qualified? I think she does a test too much.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And look, I would just point out that Kamala is
the ultimate DEEI.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Can't hire. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, but I.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Think she's representative of a lot of people who got
elevated because she looks like what left wing liberal women
want leadership to look like.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Some men.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But really, I said yesterday, and every time I say this,
people are like, I didn't vote for I understand there
are tens of millions people in the in the country
who are white women. The only group, the only identity
group that increased support for Kamala compared to Joe Biden
(17:11):
was white women. Now a lot of you white women
out there are like that, what't me reminds me of
kid rock and the girls are all dance rap songs
which are incredibly degrading in lyrics and she's like not
saying my name. Uh So, I understand a lot of
you out there listening to us right now are white
women who voted for Trump. But white women were the
only group that supported Kamala more than they supported Joe Biden.
(17:38):
And that is why I think, really, when you break
all this down, the leader of the woke movement and
the broken brain universe is actually liberal white women. They
are wrong on everything, and they are the ones that
are leading us the most astray. I'm not going to
leave you astray, hopefully tomorrow when I give you yet
(17:58):
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Everything's going pretty well. Maybe I'll just have a beer
and watch a game, and maybe I'll play along with
(18:20):
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Speaker 7 (18:51):
You've got Chuck Schumer out there fundraising during the government shutdown.
He's fundraising in California during the shutdown. Yet you have
are men and women of all of our federal agencies
probably not going.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
To get a paycheck.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
We're going to do everything we can to take care
of them. But people working during this shutdown to keep
all of these citizens safe, they don't care about their citizens.
Schumer says, it's the greatest thing to happen to Democrats,
really to happen to our country. It's hurting the citizens.
And we're going to keep fighting for the American people.
That's what Donald Trump does, and that's what he's going
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to continue to do, whether it's Chicago, Portland, Memphis, right
here in DC, all over this country. He's going to
keep Americans safe because they are not.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That was the Attorney General Fambondi speaking about the situation
of the shutdown right now, and I just think it
couldn't be more clear that this is Democrats who are
willing to basically do whatever, do anything in order to
make it seem like they are opposing Trump and opposing
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the agenda that he has. I think that the politics
of this are not nearly as beneficial for them as
they would like to pretend, especially Clay, given that this
week the Midi's peace deal has gone into effect, the
end of the Israel Hamas war has now happened thanks
to Trump's negotiations. The economy, I mean, here we go,
(20:18):
for example, FED Chair Jerome Powell, Trump is not always
very happy with him. He is saying this about where
the economy is play five.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Based on the data we do have, it's fair to
say that the outlook for employment and inflation does not
appear to have changed much since our September meeting four
weeks ago. Data available prior to the shutdown, however, show
that growth and economic activity maybe on a somewhat former
trajectory than expected.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So things are chugging along with the economy pretty well.
I think overall, the market obviously is at a very
high point right now, and Democrats are trying to figure
out how to turn this shutdown into political wins. Here
is the numbers guy. We'll have our numbers guy, Ryan Gurdusky.
So Harry Anton is really the poor man's Gurdusky, I think,
(21:07):
but we have Ryan Gurdusky joining Third Hour. Harry Anton
of CNN is pointing out that this whole shutdown situation,
if you look at the polls and how it's affecting
next year's midterms, which are just over twelve months away
from where we are right now, not looking good for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Play eleven.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
If you go back six months ago, you go back
to April K Paul, when what were we looking at, Well,
we were looking at the Democrats with a very clear
shot of taking control of the US House of Representatives.
According to the Calci Prediction market odds. We saw him
in an eighty three percent chance. But those aunts have
gone plummeting down. Now we're talking about just a sixty
three percent chance, while the gopiece chances up like a
(21:45):
rocket up like gold, up from seventeen percent to now
a thirty seven percent chance. So we'll look like a
pretty clear Democrat likely Democratic winning the House come next
year has become much closer to twass up at this point,
although still slightly leading Democratic.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Look, what he referenced is what I actually think is
going to start to take over the entire political landscape.
And I wish Rush had had the opportunity to see
this coming. Polls are often as all of you know,
one billion percent worthless, but some of them are actually
(22:23):
really good.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
The problem is we.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Don't know until the actual election happens, and then we
can go back and retroactively say, Okay, this group got
it right, this guy got it right, this guy got
it right. Remember the genius from Iowa and Seltzer that
everybody just stopped talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But she had the.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Poll that said Kamalo was gonna win in Iowa and
then Trump came.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well yeah, wasn't it like like thirteen percent? Some crazy numbers?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah number.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean she retired after it was song. She poll
was so bad that she retired. That was the final
poll of her career, and she couldn't have been more wrong.
I think won Iowa by thirteen or fourteen points. I
think she had Kamala winning Iowa by three or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Team look that up.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
If you would, and Trump won it by thirteen ish,
so she was sixteen points wrong. The prediction markets, which
is what Harry Inton just referenced, have a much better
track record and in real time you can put your
actual money down on what you think is going to
happen in elections. The prediction markets got it almost one
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hundred percent right on twenty twenty four with Trump, and
they are trending in a very positive direction right now
for Republicans. Top of next hour, we'll dive in and
I'll play you some cuts. There's a lot of different
moving parts, but this Supreme Court case that's going on
right now that would basically outlaw racial jerrymander that has
(23:50):
a potentially just seismic impact on what could happen in
the House. We know that California is trying to rig
the game and add five more seats in favor of
Democrats out in their state, but Texas has moved. There's
now talked that North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri. Ultimately the favor
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on redistricting is going to move towards Republicans and buck
two things also that are very significant. One, there's still
the possibility that at some point in time the courts
are going to rule you can't count illegal immigrants for
purposes of House representation. This should be a way bigger story.
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I'm surprised that Republicans don't spend more time on it.
We can argue about who's voting and who's not legally
and illegally, but leave that aside. You are able, for
purposes of House representation to count illegal immigrants. When you
do that, that means that, according to studies I've seen,
Democrats are picking up ten to fifteen House seats solely
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based on illegal immigrant populations in this country. You shouldn't
be able to county legal immigrants for purposes of census
representation in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Two. They got the census wrong, and nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Will really kind of dive into this, but there should
actually be more House seats in Red states. The twenty
thirty census is going to be a earthquake politically in
terms of the shift of power that is coming to
Red states, and it will basically cancel out Democrats' ability
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to win the way that Kamala tried to win in
twenty twenty four. If she had won, she came within
two hundred and twenty thousand votes of winning Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin. If she had won those, she would have
won two seventy to two sixty eight in the electoral college,
even though she would have lost the popular vote. With
the way that the redistricting is going to be set
(25:52):
up and the way that the electoral votes are going
to be reallocated, red states are going to pick up
around twelve electionectoral votes, which means that pathway will no
longer exist. There will be no blue wall, that path
to win will not exist starting in twenty thirty two,
should start in twenty twenty eight. Maybe the Supreme Court
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is going to look at this and say, yeah, the
census has to be re allocated because they got it
wrong the way that they did it in twenty twenty
and that should be a way bigger story. And so
should the rig job of counting illegal immigrants. But these
are things that are substantial and moving in the direction
of Republicans, but may or may not be impactful in
(26:34):
twenty twenty six. That's a little bit of nerding out
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think part of the problem they're going to have
in twenty six as well is, even though it's not
a presidential election year, you do need to have some
feeling I believe that there is national leadership in place.
Even when you're talking about voting for your individual congressman,
you want to feel like there's a broader narrative at
(26:59):
least I'm voting for the Democrats because of the following things.
This is only applicable not to died in the world
Democrats or Republicans, but to the voters who may show
may switch their minds. You get to the why, and
I think Democrats right now entirely lack a why, in
part because they the Trump agenda is working so well
(27:22):
and as promised. I think people also, the voters as
a general a general thing, are impressed by somebody who
says I'm going to do the following things and actually
does it. For those who are at least open minded
to think about results and policies, maybe that's only the
middle ten percent of the electorate, you know, that's up
for grabs at all in some capacity. But I think
(27:45):
they see Trump doing what he said he would do,
and that that gets filed away in the Okay, that's
that's something to pay attention to. And then I think
beyond that, the Democrats. What do they really what do
they offer? Do they want to go back to open border?
I do think you're right, you've said this before, and
we'll get into some of the transagenda stuff. At this point,
(28:06):
I think they're hoping the Supreme Court actually bails them
out and then then it turns into a law of
the land thing where, oh, you know, we really think
that the eighteen year old guy should be able to
play on the girls, you know, lacrosse team, but the
Supreme Court. Sorry, you know, but we're very strong on
that issue. If we could only get a new Supreme Court,
(28:28):
maybe we need to pack the Supreme Court, because otherwise
they're just gonna keep getting dunked on TV and dunked
on by Republicans every time.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, look at it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Look at Spamburger over there. Yes, I know it's spam Burger,
but I think spam is more more apropos. Spamburger is
out there. She's just like speaking in circles because she
can't answer the question in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
As a mother of three girls.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I mean, she is such an empty suit, and I
mean I feel bad for the people of Virginia. How
in the world did she end up being their default.
Nobody can even step to and challenge her. Some of
these people are such worthless, worthless leaders and the fact
(29:14):
that states could end up big, high population states could
end up with leaders like these. It's really an indictment
of the Democrat Party. And we've got a fun clip
for you of Piers Morgan that will play at some
point during the course of the show. One of the
California Democrat candidates that is running out there said that
we should have a gender neutral Olympics in Los Angeles,
(29:39):
and she said she thinks she doesn't know, but she
thinks that a woman might be able to run faster
than Usain Bolt, I mean, these people have broken brains
and it's actually more established, you know, they don't really
get pushed on these ideas very often. Buck And I
(30:00):
think what you saw with Spanberger and I think what
you saw with Pierre's questioning is there's a little bit
more willingness to follow up and just say, okay, well,
can you just address the question that I directly asked you?
And their inability to answer and their immediate filibustering proves
that there is no substance there. They just go to
(30:21):
this pablem and this sort of robotic generic answer, thinking
that they can get through it without offending the trans community.
And we've also got a clip, by the way, I
did not expect Kiera Knightley, who is a Is it
fair to call her a buxom lass? I think so
because she was in all the Pirates of the Caribbean
(30:42):
movies Kiaren nice Last.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Is she buxom though she's very skinny?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Okay, maybe that's well.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was gonna call her a buck Last because she
was in the Pirates movie and it feels like the
Pirates are the people. She may be a Bonnie Lass,
Bonnie Letcher, You're not sure she's a Bucksom lass. Okay,
Bonnie Lass is a better description. We've got a fun
clip of her being asked about the JK. Rowling protest,
and I just want you to hear her reaction. The
tide has turned in a significant way. You've got some
(31:09):
data on this too. We'll talk about it during the
course of the program.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But the whole like I'm trans gender, non binary.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
All these kids are as they come out of their
houses and start to return to normalcy, and the post
shutdown era are starting to reject this absurdity of the
trans world. And we're starting to see what I think
is true, which is the modern day lobotomy. Is the
teenagers who had the gender reassignment surgery performed on them
(31:42):
by adults who claim that this was a kind thing
to be doing. No, it was actually mutilation. And some
of these doctors I think should be bankrupted and frankly
charged with crimes.
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Speaker 3 (33:19):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Scott's got
a good question KK on the talkback and we've got
a lot of phenomenal talkbacks that we were going to
be hitting during the course of the show. He is uh,
he is out there and he's got a question. It's
a great one. Let's listen.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Hey, Clay, what to Hitler? Nancy Pelosi and Buck heaven Common.
None of them can hit one hundred mile per hour.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Serve Bucket, whom you good?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Here it, buddy, I just I just want to echo
because I know the audio wasn't great. He asked, what
do Hitler, Nancy Pelosi and buck heaven Common none of
them can hit.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
One hundred miles per hour? Sor all right?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
All right, all right, all right, this is enough, is enough,
just to start the clock.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Give me. I gotta get out on the court.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I'm actually going shooting this weekend. I only have time
for one thing because I have a small child and
my wife, you know, can't carry the whole load. But
I am going shooting this weekend. Next week and I'll
be doing tennis. I will bring out the actual working
speed gun. And I don't care if I have to
show up here with my arm in a sling to
your radio the next day. We're getting the triple digits, buddy,
(34:28):
We're getting the triple digits, Scott.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I mean, that's a strong argument from Scott. And then
a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Producer Ali can step in you and I can give
opinions on the most controversial things on the planet, and
people are like, yeah, okay, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Abortion, trans war and peace. No problems, no problem, no
issues at all.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
My take on the worst way to Die has provoked
an unbelievable uproar, and some of you have great taste
and recognize that I am, in fact correct. Danny in
New York City wr rady, Oh, this is pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
JJ.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm sitting here alone in my car eating Chick fil A,
and now all I can think about is I hope
I don't die. I said, at least if it happened,
it would be on Chick fil A, like worth it.
It's not like you're eating you know, some like roadside
half cooked burger or something stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Coast to Coast Becky and Phoenix News Talk five point
fifty k f YI.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
She also understands great arguments when she hears.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Them, pix I to.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
This is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's one of my.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Biggest pears too.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Or there you go. See I'm not wrong about choking
to death. And then hh, Carol in Houston. For all
these great people out there, they understand Carol actually listened
to what she's done because she's so afraid she's gonna
choke to death while eating by herself.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
Hey, fucking Clay, this is Carol from Houston. I have
the fear too about choking. That's why I got my
kids in my car, in my house. I had that
life back. So if you do choke, even if you're
by yourself, you can actually use that on yourself. So
you might want to check into that. I should not
be one of your sponsors.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We actually have I have a life back at home,
so maybe they should be a sponsor. I have one
here in preparation for hopefully something we never have to
use it for. But yeah, I think Clay, what you meant, though,
is when I said worst way to die, most people
think of the most painful, awful way. You meant the
most undignified or like unnecessary. I think, which is a
(36:39):
little I'm gonna I'm gonna expand on my argument. I
should have talked more about assumption of risk. If you
swim with sharks in one each you you've assumed it.
When you go to red Lobster, you don't expect to
die
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Shut Down Day fifteen, I think,
and things are actually heating up a little bit on
Capitol Hill and with the Schumer shut down, Democrats trying
to play a bit of hardball. You had Speaker Johnson
(00:23):
holding a press conference this morning. I watched it as
I was drinking my delicious krack at coffee, as one does,
and that I'm glad that you're watching these press conferences,
so others do not be hab to watch these press conferences,
because that sounds miserable. We still haven't figured out what
like nice you know, wine and cheese basket you're gonna
send me for being the one of this duo to
(00:44):
read Kamalas one hundred and seven days Clay, that was
towards you finished. Yeah, oh, I read it on the
on the Taiwan plane. I read it, and my lord,
you know it's every day is a chapter. Think about that,
think about the mentality or rather every chapter? Yeah, every chapter.
And so you're like, wait, I have Once you get
deep enough in, you're like, I have seventy more chapters.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Of this.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Organized. I guess it's very simple to organize in that respect.
But so it's just a minute analysis of the entire campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Then I'm just saying, you're leaving some of us behind
taking slings and arrows. While you're out there at the
beach at the new house. Some of us are reading
Kamala's memoir because you know team player and all that,
you know it was. It was actually more brutal than
I thought. Let's get into the realities of this shutdown
and what is at stake. Also China, China saying that
(01:38):
they are going to play hardball with Trump on trade,
gearing up for what they think will be another stock
market plunge. They're going to try to make the market
plunge in this country. So we'll discuss that and then
something else, just a story in the background for us
to dive into as we can. The percentage of students
identifying as non binary or trans has suddenly fallen off
(02:03):
a cliff. Isn't that so interesting? And we will get
into why that is and what, of course the left
will be saying about this. We've also got Ryan Gerdusky
joining us later on the program, but talk about the
big elections coming up in a few weeks and then
we'll also be talking a bit of California, my friend,
(02:23):
we'll be having a California discussion with Steve Hilton, who
is running for Governor's there.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Also, as we are talking to all of you, there's
actually a very potentially transformative Supreme Court case that is
being argued basically about majority black districts and how you
reconcile that with the equal Protection Clause. And there is
a possibility, and it is not an insignificant one, that
(02:52):
we could see all racial Jerrymanderin declared unconstitutional as a
part of this court case, and so there's questioning going
on about that right now, and it could be incredibly
incredibly impactful for what, for instance, the House is going
to look like in twenty twenty six. Because right now,
(03:14):
and this is legal nerding a little bit, there is
a balancing act between how you apply the Civil Rights Act,
which has been applied to basically permit these majority black districts,
even require them, while also analyzing it in the context
of the of the sort of equal protection clause which
(03:36):
would not allow race to be factored in, and then
how is it implicated with for instance, affirmative action in
race based decision making as it pertains to colleges and universities.
So it's a big case, and I think there is
a possibility the Supreme Court finally says, once and for all,
racial gerrymanagering is unconstitutional. It's certainly not necessary compared to
(03:59):
the nineteen six these and so that case is being
heard right now as we all talk to you, and
that could be profoundly transformative.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I think that our guiding light is it load star?
Isn't that how you say?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is that the load star?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I know there's the loan there star State, but isn't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There's a load star.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
There's also the North Star as the light upon which
you should follow. So there's multiple different stars that are
guiding lights.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, look at Clay with the astronomy over here, he's
a man of many talents. Where's many hats. But yes,
our load star on this, on all these issues, should
be the best way to stop discriminating by race is
to stop discriminating by race, which I'm pretty sure is Alito?
Was that Alito? Or was that I think it was
John Roberts. I think it was the majority opinion of
(04:44):
John Roberts, if I remember correctly, If You guys can
go back and do fact check on that, but I
think Roberts were at that majority opinion, and that's his line.
You know, balls and strikes. Sometimes even Morning Joe gets
it right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
All right, Now, let's dive into this shutdown brinksmanship here
for a second, because what's happened Klayce. So we're in
day fifteen. You've got military members, and you've got people
who are working for the government in things we actually
need and want the government to do, who at this
point have missed a paycheck. Right, most people are paid
(05:20):
bi weekly, so now if you are paycheck to paycheck,
there's no money. So now you're running up credit card bills,
and now the family stress is increasing. And it's very
important that the American people understand Republicans were ready to
do the same funding that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats
voted for what was the last March. I think they're
(05:41):
willing to just keep funding the government. Democrats are holding
hostages here. Democrats are the ones that won't go forward
and do this in a reasonable rational way. And the
Treasury Secretary Scott Vessen is saying this is just going
to start lighting our money as a country on fire
if we don't get this thing at all. This is
cut to Secretary Besant play it.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
We call on the moderate Democrats in the Senate to
be heroes, be heroes, break away from the hive of radicalism,
and do something for the American people, because we are
starting to cut into muscle here. We believe that the
shutdown may start costing the US economy up to fifteen
billion dollars a day. And this is a decision that
(06:25):
Democrats are making. And one of the reasons that they
are not being held to task is because the mainstream
media is not coming at them the way they would
have if the Republicans were willing to keep the government clothed.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's absolutely true. Now they don't have play. I think
we could agree the same power that they once did
to completely shape and dominate the narrative on this. But
we do know that if this was a different circumstance,
the Democrats would be pounding the damage of the shutdown
all that I'm sorry, the media would be pounding the
(07:00):
shutdown damage all day long and making sure that it
was front and center in every newscast, in every news cycle.
But it's on the Republicans, I'm sorry. On the Democrats, yes,
one hundred percent, and I just I understand there's starting
to be some impact. I have the sneaking suspicion they're
(07:20):
doing another one of these stupid no Kings rallies this weekend,
I believe buck for all of the people who are
complete losers and can't find a better way to fit
to spend a spectacular fall weekend than walking around screaming
about how you don't support Kings, I think they're waiting
till after the No Kings rally happens because they don't
want to try to strip its momentum to actually preach
(07:44):
in agreement. That's my conspiracy theory here, because if you
acquiesce and bend the knee on the Friday before the
No Kings rally, then everybody's like, do have Kings?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh by? And all of.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
This is about Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jack Freeze trying
to maintain their limited House and Senate authority and off
stave off everybody out there. And so I think that's
really what this is based on more than anything else.
And I suspect that they will bend the knee sometime
(08:18):
next week, that's my guess. I also think Trump stole
so much of the thunder with the Middle East peace agreement.
I just don't even hear that many people asking about this.
Does anybody come up to you? People come up and
ask all sorts of questions. When I'm out and about,
nobody's asking about the shutdown. And I understand people out
(08:39):
there who have government jobs, and some of you are
listening to us. You're gonna get paid, and so there
isn't any suggestion that eventually you're not gonna get paid. Now,
maybe you don't have savings, and I get that's frustrating
you have to pull out the credit cards and things
like that. But this is all Democrat driven, and I
think it's much connected to this No King's rally on
(08:59):
the a teenth, where they're trying to avoid creating a
stir by bending the knee before the rally. I really
think there's a big part of it that's just predicated
on this.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's definitely. I think the analysis you put forward on
next week sounds very reasonable, very likely to me. And
as we're seeing where this goes, remember Republicans have voted
nine times to reopen the government so the Republicans have said,
let's go. They're not the ones that are the sand
in the machinery or in the gears.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It is the Democrats who have sabotaged the reopen and
it is because now they say they want another one
point five trillion dollars in spending.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They're in the minority.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
They shouldn't be in a position to make these kinds
of demands, and they are making demands at the expense
of right now good sense and a lot of people
who anxiety is rising. Look, you know, Clay, I get it.
People are going to get paid. But having been a
government employed who lived paycheck to paycheck for many years,
you know you don't want to run up credit card bills, right,
(10:05):
And it's it's just an anxiety if you're you know,
you've got a family, I mean, you've got a couple
of kids. Uh, there's that anxiety of I did my part,
I'm showing up. And remember this is now we're talking
not about people who there's a lot of what I
call low show jobs in the federal government, especially in
the Beltway, where you show up, you don't show up,
it doesn't really matter. We're talking about military service members.
(10:28):
Now we're talking about people that we have as a society,
as a country, asked to do these jobs because they
need to be done, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Know we're gonna end up paying them.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But the Schumer shutdown is just complete theatrics. It's unnecessary,
and it's to your point about the No Kings rally.
It's just so they can say we stand and fight,
we stand and fight Trump, and that Chuck Schumer can
say that so that AOC doesn't go from Congresswoman AOC
to Senator AOC.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
This is not based on what's best for the country.
It's based on what's best for the Democrat Party. And
I don't think it's lost that. Essentially, you have two
guys from New York City that are the top Democrats
in elected office right now. One of them obviously Hakeem Jefferies,
who is I think a middling at best leader for
the Democrat Party. Whatever you think of Nancy Pelosi, she
(11:18):
was able to corral heard the cats, dominate them, and
strategically she had some sort of vision. Chuck Schumer, I
think also very middling level leader in the Senate, and
they recognize that they are being challenged. Look there's talk
out there that one of Mamdani's top political aids is
(11:40):
going to challenge Hakeem Jeffries in the midterm and may
take try to win that primary and knock him out
of being in Congress at all, which is a sign
of how little respect they have for his leadership to
challenge in a serious way the Democrat minority leader. And then,
as you just mentioned, Chuck Schumer lives in eternal fear
(12:01):
of AOC deciding she wants to be a senator and
wiping him out. So I think that's really what this
entire government shut down is about. Schumer upset the crazy
left wing when he agreed to this back in March,
and he's decided he can't do it again.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
What does Schumer do if he wakes up and he's
not a senator anymore? Lawn bowling, Madjong, New York Times
crossword puzzle.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Like, what is you know?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Schumer at this stage of the game play, His whole
thing is he's just got.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
To be in the game.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
This is why I argue in an ideal world, there
would not be professional politicians, because there would be people
who do things other than politics, and so if they're
not politicians anymore, their life doesn't feel as if it's
without purpose. I think one reason why so many of
these politicians in their seventies and eighties are refusing to
step away is they don't have anything else. And I
(12:55):
think Chuck Schumer is a good example of that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think the one thing Chuck Schumer has working in
his face. I don't know that AOC wants to run
for statewide office in New York. I think she wants
to run for president in the United States. So Chuck
Schumer may benefit because AOC's ambitions are bigger than the
office that he currently holds. That would be my forecast,
and I think you and I both have said we
don't think it's crazy to contemplate AOC as the VP
(13:19):
nominee with a Governor Gavin Newsom as the nominee.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
For his was AOC a more dynamic personality and online
avatar by leaps and bounds than Kamala who was just
a VP under Biden. Not even a question right, So
of course she.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Could be the VP.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And she's got the Bernie Sanders stamp of approval, as
Bernie is now frankly too old to ever run for
president again. We'll take some of your calls, the talkbacks,
little early preview. Don't even look at them, Buck, they're hysterical.
As you may well remember from yesterday when I made
the greatest argument in the history of the show about
the worst way to die, and a lot of you
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Fuck your girl, Kamala,
you just spent one hundred and seven days with her.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
She says.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Some people have said I was the most qualified candidate
ever to run for president. This is what she said
last night Cut twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That is decent, but that is a decent resume. But
go ahead there.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well, some people have actually said I was the most
qualified candidate ever to run for president.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I like yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I like this.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Some people say, very nice, but go ahead, I'm just
speaking fact.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Some people say that you and I Buck are the
most handsome people that ever do radio. Smartest too, Condon.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
People are saying.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Some people are saying, I don't even think Kamala caught
that she did a Trump is in there, but the
interviewer did.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I would say this about it, Clay.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
If you and you know this, if you have to
tell people how qualified you are for anything, you're probably
not that qualified for it.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
If you have to make a thing of I'm so
qualified to people who know you and know your background.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Are you qualified? I think she does a test too much.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
And look, I would just point out that Kamala is
the ultimate DEEI.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Can't hire. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, but I.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Think she's representative of a lot of people who got
elevated because she looks like what left wing liberal women
want leadership to look like.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Some men.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But really, I said yesterday, and every time I say this,
people are like, I didn't vote for I understand there
are tens of millions people in the in the country
who are white women. The only group, the only identity
group that increased support for Kamala compared to Joe Biden
(17:11):
was white women. Now a lot of you white women
out there are like that, what't me reminds me of
kid rock and the girls are all dance rap songs
which are incredibly degrading in lyrics and she's like not
saying my name. Uh So, I understand a lot of
you out there listening to us right now are white
women who voted for Trump. But white women were the
only group that supported Kamala more than they supported Joe Biden.
(17:38):
And that is why I think, really, when you break
all this down, the leader of the woke movement and
the broken brain universe is actually liberal white women. They
are wrong on everything, and they are the ones that
are leading us the most astray. I'm not going to
leave you astray, hopefully tomorrow when I give you yet
(17:58):
another winner. In pri Picks, we got the Major League
Baseball playoffs, Underway setting record ratings, college football setting record ratings,
NFL setting record ratings, America's healing, and a lot of
people just want to kick their feet up and watch
sports because they think to themselves, hey, Trump is president.
Everything's going pretty well. Maybe I'll just have a beer
and watch a game, and maybe I'll play along with
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Speaker 7 (18:51):
You've got Chuck Schumer out there fundraising during the government shutdown.
He's fundraising in California during the shutdown. Yet you have
are men and women of all of our federal agencies
probably not going.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
To get a paycheck.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
We're going to do everything we can to take care
of them. But people working during this shutdown to keep
all of these citizens safe, they don't care about their citizens.
Schumer says, it's the greatest thing to happen to Democrats,
really to happen to our country. It's hurting the citizens.
And we're going to keep fighting for the American people.
That's what Donald Trump does, and that's what he's going
(19:25):
to continue to do, whether it's Chicago, Portland, Memphis, right
here in DC, all over this country. He's going to
keep Americans safe because they are not.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That was the Attorney General Fambondi speaking about the situation
of the shutdown right now, and I just think it
couldn't be more clear that this is Democrats who are
willing to basically do whatever, do anything in order to
make it seem like they are opposing Trump and opposing
(19:57):
the agenda that he has. I think that the politics
of this are not nearly as beneficial for them as
they would like to pretend, especially Clay, given that this
week the Midi's peace deal has gone into effect, the
end of the Israel Hamas war has now happened thanks
to Trump's negotiations. The economy, I mean, here we go,
(20:18):
for example, FED Chair Jerome Powell, Trump is not always
very happy with him. He is saying this about where
the economy is play five.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Based on the data we do have, it's fair to
say that the outlook for employment and inflation does not
appear to have changed much since our September meeting four
weeks ago. Data available prior to the shutdown, however, show
that growth and economic activity maybe on a somewhat former
trajectory than expected.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So things are chugging along with the economy pretty well.
I think overall, the market obviously is at a very
high point right now, and Democrats are trying to figure
out how to turn this shutdown into political wins. Here
is the numbers guy. We'll have our numbers guy, Ryan Gurdusky.
So Harry Anton is really the poor man's Gurdusky, I think,
(21:07):
but we have Ryan Gurdusky joining Third Hour. Harry Anton
of CNN is pointing out that this whole shutdown situation,
if you look at the polls and how it's affecting
next year's midterms, which are just over twelve months away
from where we are right now, not looking good for Democrats.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Play eleven.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
If you go back six months ago, you go back
to April K Paul, when what were we looking at, Well,
we were looking at the Democrats with a very clear
shot of taking control of the US House of Representatives.
According to the Calci Prediction market odds. We saw him
in an eighty three percent chance. But those aunts have
gone plummeting down. Now we're talking about just a sixty
three percent chance, while the gopiece chances up like a
(21:45):
rocket up like gold, up from seventeen percent to now
a thirty seven percent chance. So we'll look like a
pretty clear Democrat likely Democratic winning the House come next
year has become much closer to twass up at this point,
although still slightly leading Democratic.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Look, what he referenced is what I actually think is
going to start to take over the entire political landscape.
And I wish Rush had had the opportunity to see
this coming. Polls are often as all of you know,
one billion percent worthless, but some of them are actually
(22:23):
really good.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
The problem is we.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Don't know until the actual election happens, and then we
can go back and retroactively say, Okay, this group got
it right, this guy got it right, this guy got
it right. Remember the genius from Iowa and Seltzer that
everybody just stopped talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But she had the.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Poll that said Kamalo was gonna win in Iowa and
then Trump came.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well yeah, wasn't it like like thirteen percent? Some crazy numbers?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah number.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean she retired after it was song. She poll
was so bad that she retired. That was the final
poll of her career, and she couldn't have been more wrong.
I think won Iowa by thirteen or fourteen points. I
think she had Kamala winning Iowa by three or something
like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Team look that up.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
If you would, and Trump won it by thirteen ish,
so she was sixteen points wrong. The prediction markets, which
is what Harry Inton just referenced, have a much better
track record and in real time you can put your
actual money down on what you think is going to
happen in elections. The prediction markets got it almost one
(23:28):
hundred percent right on twenty twenty four with Trump, and
they are trending in a very positive direction right now
for Republicans. Top of next hour, we'll dive in and
I'll play you some cuts. There's a lot of different
moving parts, but this Supreme Court case that's going on
right now that would basically outlaw racial jerrymander that has
(23:50):
a potentially just seismic impact on what could happen in
the House. We know that California is trying to rig
the game and add five more seats in favor of
Democrats out in their state, but Texas has moved. There's
now talked that North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri. Ultimately the favor
(24:10):
on redistricting is going to move towards Republicans and buck
two things also that are very significant. One, there's still
the possibility that at some point in time the courts
are going to rule you can't count illegal immigrants for
purposes of House representation. This should be a way bigger story.
(24:32):
I'm surprised that Republicans don't spend more time on it.
We can argue about who's voting and who's not legally
and illegally, but leave that aside. You are able, for
purposes of House representation to count illegal immigrants. When you
do that, that means that, according to studies I've seen,
Democrats are picking up ten to fifteen House seats solely
(24:56):
based on illegal immigrant populations in this country. You shouldn't
be able to county legal immigrants for purposes of census
representation in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Two. They got the census wrong, and nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Will really kind of dive into this, but there should
actually be more House seats in Red states. The twenty
thirty census is going to be a earthquake politically in
terms of the shift of power that is coming to
Red states, and it will basically cancel out Democrats' ability
(25:31):
to win the way that Kamala tried to win in
twenty twenty four. If she had won, she came within
two hundred and twenty thousand votes of winning Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin. If she had won those, she would have
won two seventy to two sixty eight in the electoral college,
even though she would have lost the popular vote. With
the way that the redistricting is going to be set
(25:52):
up and the way that the electoral votes are going
to be reallocated, red states are going to pick up
around twelve electionectoral votes, which means that pathway will no
longer exist. There will be no blue wall, that path
to win will not exist starting in twenty thirty two,
should start in twenty twenty eight. Maybe the Supreme Court
(26:13):
is going to look at this and say, yeah, the
census has to be re allocated because they got it
wrong the way that they did it in twenty twenty
and that should be a way bigger story. And so
should the rig job of counting illegal immigrants. But these
are things that are substantial and moving in the direction
of Republicans, but may or may not be impactful in
(26:34):
twenty twenty six. That's a little bit of nerding out
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think part of the problem they're going to have
in twenty six as well is, even though it's not
a presidential election year, you do need to have some
feeling I believe that there is national leadership in place.
Even when you're talking about voting for your individual congressman,
you want to feel like there's a broader narrative at
(26:59):
least I'm voting for the Democrats because of the following things.
This is only applicable not to died in the world
Democrats or Republicans, but to the voters who may show
may switch their minds. You get to the why, and
I think Democrats right now entirely lack a why, in
part because they the Trump agenda is working so well
(27:22):
and as promised. I think people also, the voters as
a general a general thing, are impressed by somebody who
says I'm going to do the following things and actually
does it. For those who are at least open minded
to think about results and policies, maybe that's only the
middle ten percent of the electorate, you know, that's up
for grabs at all in some capacity. But I think
(27:45):
they see Trump doing what he said he would do,
and that that gets filed away in the Okay, that's
that's something to pay attention to. And then I think
beyond that, the Democrats. What do they really what do
they offer? Do they want to go back to open border?
I do think you're right, you've said this before, and
we'll get into some of the transagenda stuff. At this point,
(28:06):
I think they're hoping the Supreme Court actually bails them
out and then then it turns into a law of
the land thing where, oh, you know, we really think
that the eighteen year old guy should be able to
play on the girls, you know, lacrosse team, but the
Supreme Court. Sorry, you know, but we're very strong on
that issue. If we could only get a new Supreme Court,
(28:28):
maybe we need to pack the Supreme Court, because otherwise
they're just gonna keep getting dunked on TV and dunked
on by Republicans every time.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, look at it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Look at Spamburger over there. Yes, I know it's spam Burger,
but I think spam is more more apropos. Spamburger is
out there. She's just like speaking in circles because she
can't answer the question in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
As a mother of three girls.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I mean, she is such an empty suit, and I
mean I feel bad for the people of Virginia. How
in the world did she end up being their default.
Nobody can even step to and challenge her. Some of
these people are such worthless, worthless leaders and the fact
(29:14):
that states could end up big, high population states could
end up with leaders like these. It's really an indictment
of the Democrat Party. And we've got a fun clip
for you of Piers Morgan that will play at some
point during the course of the show. One of the
California Democrat candidates that is running out there said that
we should have a gender neutral Olympics in Los Angeles,
(29:39):
and she said she thinks she doesn't know, but she
thinks that a woman might be able to run faster
than Usain Bolt, I mean, these people have broken brains
and it's actually more established, you know, they don't really
get pushed on these ideas very often. Buck And I
(30:00):
think what you saw with Spanberger and I think what
you saw with Pierre's questioning is there's a little bit
more willingness to follow up and just say, okay, well,
can you just address the question that I directly asked you?
And their inability to answer and their immediate filibustering proves
that there is no substance there. They just go to
(30:21):
this pablem and this sort of robotic generic answer, thinking
that they can get through it without offending the trans community.
And we've also got a clip, by the way, I
did not expect Kiera Knightley, who is a Is it
fair to call her a buxom lass? I think so
because she was in all the Pirates of the Caribbean
(30:42):
movies Kiaren nice Last.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Is she buxom though she's very skinny?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Okay, maybe that's well.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was gonna call her a buck Last because she
was in the Pirates movie and it feels like the
Pirates are the people. She may be a Bonnie Lass,
Bonnie Letcher, You're not sure she's a Bucksom lass. Okay,
Bonnie Lass is a better description. We've got a fun
clip of her being asked about the JK. Rowling protest,
and I just want you to hear her reaction. The
tide has turned in a significant way. You've got some
(31:09):
data on this too. We'll talk about it during the
course of the program.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But the whole like I'm trans gender, non binary.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
All these kids are as they come out of their
houses and start to return to normalcy, and the post
shutdown era are starting to reject this absurdity of the
trans world. And we're starting to see what I think
is true, which is the modern day lobotomy. Is the
teenagers who had the gender reassignment surgery performed on them
(31:42):
by adults who claim that this was a kind thing
to be doing. No, it was actually mutilation. And some
of these doctors I think should be bankrupted and frankly
charged with crimes.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Scott's got
a good question KK on the talkback and we've got
a lot of phenomenal talkbacks that we were going to
be hitting during the course of the show. He is uh,
he is out there and he's got a question. It's
a great one. Let's listen.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Hey, Clay, what to Hitler? Nancy Pelosi and Buck heaven Common.
None of them can hit one hundred mile per hour.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Serve Bucket, whom you good?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Here it, buddy, I just I just want to echo
because I know the audio wasn't great. He asked, what
do Hitler, Nancy Pelosi and buck heaven Common none of
them can hit.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
One hundred miles per hour? Sor all right?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
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just to start the clock.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Give me. I gotta get out on the court.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I'm actually going shooting this weekend. I only have time
for one thing because I have a small child and
my wife, you know, can't carry the whole load. But
I am going shooting this weekend. Next week and I'll
be doing tennis. I will bring out the actual working
speed gun. And I don't care if I have to
show up here with my arm in a sling to
your radio the next day. We're getting the triple digits, buddy,
(34:28):
We're getting the triple digits, Scott.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I mean, that's a strong argument from Scott. And then
a lot of you.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Producer Ali can step in you and I can give
opinions on the most controversial things on the planet, and
people are like, yeah, okay, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Abortion, trans war and peace. No problems, no problem, no
issues at all.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
My take on the worst way to Die has provoked
an unbelievable uproar, and some of you have great taste
and recognize that I am, in fact correct. Danny in
New York City wr rady, Oh, this is pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
JJ.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I'm sitting here alone in my car eating Chick fil A,
and now all I can think about is I hope
I don't die. I said, at least if it happened,
it would be on Chick fil A, like worth it.
It's not like you're eating you know, some like roadside
half cooked burger or something stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Coast to Coast Becky and Phoenix News Talk five point
fifty k f YI.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
She also understands great arguments when she hears.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Them, pix I to.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
This is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's one of my.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Biggest pears too.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Or there you go. See I'm not wrong about choking
to death. And then hh, Carol in Houston. For all
these great people out there, they understand Carol actually listened
to what she's done because she's so afraid she's gonna
choke to death while eating by herself.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
Hey, fucking Clay, this is Carol from Houston. I have
the fear too about choking. That's why I got my
kids in my car, in my house. I had that
life back. So if you do choke, even if you're
by yourself, you can actually use that on yourself. So
you might want to check into that. I should not
be one of your sponsors.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We actually have I have a life back at home,
so maybe they should be a sponsor. I have one
here in preparation for hopefully something we never have to
use it for. But yeah, I think Clay, what you meant, though,
is when I said worst way to die, most people
think of the most painful, awful way. You meant the
most undignified or like unnecessary. I think, which is a
(36:39):
little I'm gonna I'm gonna expand on my argument. I
should have talked more about assumption of risk. If you
swim with sharks in one each you you've assumed it.
When you go to red Lobster, you don't expect to
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