April 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into several pressing topics, starting with a discussion on immigration and crime. The hosts criticize Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen for meeting with a deported gang member from El Salvador, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, highlighting the broader issue of illegal immigration and its impact on American society. They reference a poll showing that 56% of Americans support deporting all illegal immigrants, emphasizing the public's stance on this contentious issue.
The conversation shifts to the COVID-19 pandemic, marking the five-year anniversary of the initial lockdowns. The hosts encourage listeners to visit covid.gov, pointing out the conflicting guidance on masks and the origins of the virus, which they claim leaked from a Chinese lab. They call for accountability for the misinformation spread during the pandemic, particularly targeting Dr. Fauci.
Next, the show addresses the legal troubles of New York Attorney General Letitia James. The hosts discuss allegations of mortgage fraud against her, questioning her integrity and calling for her resignation. They compare her situation to other high-profile cases of mortgage fraud, suggesting that political motivations are at play.
The hosts also touch on the divisive case of a 17-year-old stabbed to death, Austin Metcalf, at a track meet in Frisco, Texas by Karmelo Anthony. They criticize the defense team's narrative and the public's reaction, highlighting the racial tensions surrounding the case. The discussion underscores the broader societal issues of race and justice.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition. Good Friday addition. I know a
lot of you may have the day off. I know
all my kids do. So if you hear screaming yelling
in the background, I promise they're fine. They're probably just
playing video games downstairs. We've got a lot to dive into,
but one of my favorite, well, a couple of things
(00:20):
that are out there. First, this idiot Maryland senator has
been able to meet with the wife beating, the potentially
human trafficking the gang member, the illegal immigrant from El
Salvador who has been returned to El Salvador. I can't
believe this is the real resistance that Democrats are mustering.
(00:42):
We talked about yesterday, fifty six percent of Americans are
in favor of all.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Illegals being deported.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What do you think, just off the top of here,
Buck ninety ten, if you told people, Hey, this guy
from El Salvador who has clear gang affiliation with MS thirteen,
a very violent El Salvadorian gang. He has been accused
credibly by his own wife of beating her on multiple
occasions and the details are not pretty. In the Maryland
(01:08):
court proceeding related to that, he was pulled over in
the state of Tennessee, suspected of human trafficking. The Tennessee
State Highway Patrol contacted the FBI, and the FBI said,
just let him go. During Joe Biden's era of no
punishment for anyone who illegally entered the country, and we
(01:29):
know that he illegally entered the country, do you think
ten percent of Americans consider him to be a worthy
cause for a sitting United States Senator to obsess with
or for an American political party to decide is a
foundational issue for their representatives to be focused on.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think that it's a little higher than that, but
it's a very clear minority. I would guess it's more
like twenty eight to twenty five percent, because about twenty
percent of the country is politically insane and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We could go through because it's about that.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Also, even on the you know, eighteen year old boys
should be able to play against eighteen year old girls
if they say they're trends in sports. I mean, you
look at some of these issues, Clay, and we're dealing
with a country that's twenty percent wacko. I would say, yeah,
that's my general. So so it's it's somewhere around there.
I would just throw into the mix here. You know, Clay,
(02:22):
there's there's no way that they're going to easily change
their minds on how they're going to approach Trump with
any of this. But he's not giving them a lot
to work with. Yeah, right, he's not.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Doing things that would be easy for.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
A rational political party to oppose.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The stuff that he's doing.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And you know, the one place that they thought they
were getting some traction was on tariffs. Okay, he did
a ninety day pause, and he's negotiating. Let's see, markets
have stabilized, let's see right that, so that people won't
get people can't get that freaked out about it, because
that's still very much in progress. And at the end
of it, I think he may and he may have
some really great deals done. So they've decided to go
(03:03):
with this. And while I agree with you it's not
a strong hand they are playing, I don't know what
other hand they have to play.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
What are they gonna say, kick the borders wide open again,
we want all the illegals coming in.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We will talk about that a little bit more. I
also encourage you, if you are still angry about COVID.
As we are in the five year anniversary of fifteen days,
I think to stop the spread basically right, it's a
little bit past that, but go right now on your
phones to covid dot gov. The White House has taken
(03:38):
over covid dot gov and their buck are all sorts
of things on that website, including, among others, masks. Don't
do anything to stop the spread. There was all sorts
of conflicting guidance. This leaked from a Chinese lab. Doctor
Fauci was involved in the cover up.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
This is a reckoning for those of us out there
that have wanted a reckoning for all the lies we
were told during COVID. Covid dot gov check it out
and make sure that you do not miss it. Today
it is a incredible good Friday for those of us
out there who have been demanding this reckoning. Speaking of reckonings,
(04:22):
though Buck, our good friend Leticia James, just to confirm staff,
she has still not accepted our offer to come on.
I'm assuming and we have not gotten any word from
Kathy Hokel. I'm assuming either or Andrew Cuomo, but they
have the opportunity to come on and talk about this.
She says, remember to refresh New York Attorney General Leticia James,
(04:44):
who said no one is above the law and no
one should be able to lie on a mortgage application
to get favorable treatment.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
These were her own words, not mine.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
She now says that despite the fact that she has
been caught lying on her mortgage applictions, this is just
President Trump's revenge tour. She has spoken out about the
lies and the fraud that she has committed, and she says,
this is just about President Trump back. You predicted this.
But let's listen to cut four.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Let me just say to all New Yorkers and to
all Americans, the allegations are baseless. The allegations are nothing
more than a revenge tour. And as you mentioned, my
office was successful in securing a four hundred and fifty
four million dollar judgment against Donald Trump and others for
exaggerating the value of his assets, engaged in a patent
(05:40):
and practice of fraud, and the interest is accruing each
and every day while the case is on appeal in
the First Department. It's important that individuals know that this
is nothing more than the continuation of the tour he
went after law firms universities, immigrants, women of federal employees
(06:01):
right now are unemployed. Our government is in chaos and
in disarray, Medicaid, social Security.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, let's go ahead and cut her off here. So Buck,
am I missing it? Or did she explain anything about
why she lied on her mortgage claim in that in
that litany that we played for you, she's going going all.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
In on the Clay Davis maneuver here from the wire, which, again,
for those of you haven't seen it, a black politician
in Baltimore Democrat is caught red handed, red handed with
a mortgage fraud and he just gets up on the
stand and is like, this is racism. I've done so
much for my community, has nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, just figure and he gets off right.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's it's that's the move that she's pulling here, except
in this case she's just leaning in on the anti
Trump thing, not the this is you know, racist persecution. Yes,
she's saying that this is all about going after Trump. No,
it's actually all about whether you committed mortgage fraud. And
she won't to it, but I will say this, if
you haven't committed, you know, I get how this game goes.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know to Clay, if.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You haven't committed mortgage fraud, I mean, when you say
the allegations are baseless, why don't you just say I
didn't do this thing?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I feel like she's speaking about this in a very
loyally way that doesn't address did you do it?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well? This is also the problem she's in.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'll play cut six here in a moment, but the
problem she's in, as we told you, this isn't a
complicated case, right. A lot of allegations of impropriety are
really complicated. They kind of make your eyes roll back
into your head. Most of you, at some point in time,
either have or will fill out a mortgage application. It
(07:47):
is not believable to me that the chief legal officer,
a highly trained lawyer of New York, would accidentally click
that her primary residence is in virgin or would accidentally
say that she's married to her dad, both of which
work in her favor to lower the rate of mortgage
(08:09):
that she might otherwise have to pay.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I would also add to that, Clay, you and I
have bought houses. A lot of people listening, I'd probably
most of the people listening have bought a house. At
some point in time you have conversations with your lender.
This isn't just This isn't like checking a box when
you're in a hurry at Walmart to you know, return
something and oh, I clicked the wrong thing. This is
(08:30):
a major This is the largest purchase that ninety nine
percent of people in the country makes a home, all right,
And unless you're getting like a Bezos yacht. And this
is a situation where she would have had conversations with
her lender about whether this is an investment property or
a primary residence.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We've gone through this, so there's so many way there
is no defense.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There's no defense because it's not possible. She would know
that she got a preferential rate. She would know what
the status. So this home is I own investment properties
and I own my home. There's no way you could
make this mistake the way she has an error, right,
it's not possible. And it's again, I think it's so key.
The Virginia property, in particular, she can't have lived there
(09:17):
as her primary residence because legally she is required to
live in the state of New York because she is
New York's Attorney General. But make no mistake her only
defense is to claim Donald Trump or hey, this is sexism,
this is racism. Here's cut six. She says people are
harassing her relatives in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
This is also I know you said she spoke loyally,
but this is also an admission in some ways that
people other than her are living in her primary residence
in a different state.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Cut six.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I was under the impression by all of this that
what they were really looking for is what they got,
which is a headline saying, you know, James is under
were a criminal investigation.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Is that pretty much what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, that's what they got. That's what they got. And
it's unfortunate that you have some of these right wing
conservative individuals who are camped out in front of my
home and in front of the homes of my relatives
in Virginia, harassing them each and every day. And it's
unfortunate knocking on the doors of my neighbors and the
neighbors of my relatives in the state of Virginia. And
(10:29):
it is nothing more than a headline, nothing more than again,
retaliation against all of the actions that I have taken
successfully against Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay, okay, but again, yeah, dived. Sorry are We're both
very fired up, and I don't want to ever cross
talk Clay.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I just Clay play.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
First of all, she wasn't successful in so far as
she's president now, and the whole game was to destroy
it important. Yeah, right, I think it's kind of a
big deal. Right, She's like, I was so successful hmm,
actually not so much.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
He won. Uh But but.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Beyond that, the way that she's talking about this, it's
she's not addressing any of the things because I think
she knows the information is going to come out that
she did the thing, and then she's just going to
say it doesn't matter. You should nullify. You know, this
is gonna be the implicit argument you should nullify mortgage
(11:25):
fraud statutes because I'm anti I'm a I'm an anti
Trump warrior for the Democrats, and that's gonna be the whole,
the whole thing. This is why I think they need
to bring state and federal charges in multiple jurisdictions, because
you don't know what the jury pool you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I don't know what Norfolk looks like. I do know
New York City. There may be a juror that will
sit on that trial. And say I don't care that
she dead, the lights liied, but I will not convict her.
I just actually spent for the first time I was
in We've got a great station in Norfolk. I was
there for the first time recently when I was training
with DJ Shipley at GBRS with my brothers, we overnighted
(12:04):
in Norfolk. I'm just it's a navy town, but it's
a heavily Democrat town. It's about forty percent I believe
African American, heavily democrat town. So you know, if you
look into how this is going to go, she may
be able to run the political game essentially in both
jurisdictions that well, it all depends who's on the jury,
(12:25):
right and this all Surrey selection is going to be everything.
If you bring charges, I don't think you could stay
and be the Attorney General of New York if you're
facing felony charges in the state of New York. I
can't imagine. This is why we've reached out to Kathy Hokel,
who so far has stayed fairly quiet. I don't understand
how you could be the chief law enforcement officer of
(12:47):
the State of New York and be facing felony charges
for lying on your mortgage applications. I think she would
have to resign. Yes, I think that's just find the charges.
I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So there's probably behind the scenes well, as we discussed,
the power to prosecute is the power to destroy. Oh,
it doesn't matter even if you win, or if you're
innocent or anything else, the decision to prosecute. I would
just add this though, Clay, into our discussion about this.
We already saw with Hunter Biden that when you have
a Democrat who is important to the Democrat apparatus, they
(13:20):
can be flagrantly guilty of the clearest felony statutory violations
and somehow they'll get away with it. So that was
the game that she was playing, right, Hunter Biden didn't
pay taxes, hid money, money laundering, you know, a whole
bunch of things. You get not a day, not a
day in prison, everybody, not one day.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Difference is you don't have a Democrat president to bail
out to James if this goest federal. But I think
she's certainly relying on the state charges to evaporate very
very suddenly.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So this is this is by the way, wasn't the.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
H didn't Carolyn mose Guys check this for me, the
prosecutor in Baltimore who was very high profile for a while,
Marilyn Moseby.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Didn't she go away for mortgage fraud? Or wasn't there
a mortgage fraud issue? I think that's the right one.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I think guys check that one for me, because this
would just be remarkable if I'm pulling this out of
the memory bank and I'm correct. It's Friday, so I
might be off, but we'll see, and we're gonna take
your calls on this one. I'm also just gonna get
this out of the way right away.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Clay.
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We're gonna have some fun with that later on. Get
ready for it. I want you to be prepared for
this uncertain financial future we're heading into right now.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
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Speaker 3 (14:49):
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Speaker 3 (16:13):
Welcome back into Clay and Fuck. We're stacked today on
the show. Want to take your calls, want to get
your talkbacks. I just want to note that, yes, my
recall still pretty good, Still pretty sure. Marilyn Moseby best known,
I think for being the prosecutor in the state prosecutor
in Baltimore who was involved with the Freddie Gray investigation
(16:33):
and also did not pursue aggressively charges against people that
were involved in race riots in Baltimore, burning down you know,
drug stores, things like that. In twenty twenty three, she
was found guilty on two counts of perjury for lying
about business losses to make penalty free withdrawals from her
(16:53):
retirement account. She used the money to buy vacation homes
in Florida. In February twenty two, twenty four, a jury
found that she committed mortgage fraud after lying in documents
about a five thousand dollars gift her then husband, Baltimore
City Council President Nick Mosby, gave to her to close
on a condominium in Florida. So yeah, another woke progressive
(17:18):
hero who was a prosecutor putting other people in prison.
Clay for this guilty of mortgage fraud and she was not.
She got twelve months home confinement. They gave her a
sweetheart deal, but felony conviction. You said she's getting disbarred.
I think Leticia James and I think she's in trouble Clay.
I don't think she's going to be able to find
(17:38):
a way out of.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
This one easily the moment the charges are filed, and
I would encourage people to file charges sooner rather than later.
This is not complicated. I think she'll be forced to
step down, disbarment proceed proceedings will begin.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
She's finished. Yeah, there's no other way around it. So
we'll see.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's all about the question to make if they bring
that charge, it's all over for one of the anti
Trump zealots of the prosecutorial.
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
This happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But unfortunately, I think this story is going to continue
to grow, and it's got a really nasty, divisive tone
to it. But I want to make sure that we
are keeping you informed on it. In Frisco, Texas, which
is I believe north of Dallas, Texas, we had a
(19:26):
seventeen year old kid stabbed to death at a track meet,
and the kid that was stabbed to death at the
track meet was it appears essentially one hundred percent innocent.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Uh and.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Kid's name was Austin Metcalf. And yesterday Carmelo Anthony's legal
defense slash advising team decided that they needed to have
a press conference. Carmelo Anthony has admitted to stabbing this
other seventeen year old kid to death again at the
(20:05):
track meet. His family has since raised nearly five hundred
thousand dollars. They have moved into a nine hundred thousand
dollar mansion. There are reports that they have bought a
new car as well, and they now are saying we
are the victims. This was the beginning of the press conference.
(20:26):
The father of the young man who was killed came
to the press conference and the spokesperson started off. They
called police on him. He's also been swatted. But they
started off the press conference by saying, it's disrespectful for
the dad of the dad of the killed young man
(20:50):
to decide to show up at this press conference. I
just want you guys to be aware of what's going
on here. This is cut thirty.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
All I'm going to say, so it don't be asked
later that was disrespectful and just shows you all the
character who is not invited. He knows that is inappropriate
to be near this family, but he did it. And
(21:17):
so I say to people, actions speak louder than words. Okay.
What he has filled into is the political operatives that
want to make this thing a political thing of hate,
get bigotry and yet racism. We have conservative operatives that
(21:40):
have been posting none stop about this case.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I boggled beyond belief. Let me give you the name,
by the way of this guy, because he sounds like
an unbelievable moron. The spokesperson's name is Dominique Alexander. That's
not the attorney. I don't believe. I think it's a
spokes person. But but to start off by saying, well,
your character's in question because you're the dad of the
murdered kid and you show up at the press cup,
(22:08):
I can't believe this is real.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, well this is Everyone who is paying attention to
this case is seeing something quite clearly. There is bigotry
and racism involved, but it is from black people against
white people. Yeah, that is what is going on. And
you can look at the comments being written all over
the GoFundMe or however they're raising the money. You can
look at the racial animist that is on display, and
(22:32):
that is actually very much going from some members. I
think it's a very small minority, but some members of
the black community who have decided to become involved in
this case, to give money, to give support. It's really
just about showing their disdain and animis for white people,
and it's out in the open. I don't know how
(22:52):
else to describe it other than just to tell you
what is going on here. They they are treating this
as though it's some kind of venue for previous wrongs.
That this young man who was just murdered in the
arms of his brother and in front of his father,
in front of all their high school classmates. Somehow this
is writing a historical wrong. I mean, this is demonic stuff.
(23:15):
This is stuff of the demon that you are seeing
here in terms of the mentality, the immorality, and if
they want to make this into an OJ thing they
being this spokesperson and some of the other kind of
race hustlers who are around this, and then people who
are rallying behind this kid, it's going to be really
(23:38):
bad for everybody, and it's going to be really bad
for the country. The facts of this case look very
clear that this was a grotesque over reaction from a
young man that led him to murder somebody, that he
had no business pulling a kniphon or doing anything like
this in the first place, and he should pay his
debt to society, and that means a very long prison sentence.
(24:00):
I do not see this as the facts are not
in dispute over what happened. The self defense claim and
had top Matt Walsher pointing this out. This kid when
the police arrives, like, oh, well, do you think I
could claim self defense? Let me tell you something. If
you pull a gun or a knife and you're using
a self defense, you think you're doing self defense right away.
You don't think about this after the fact. You're like,
(24:21):
maybe I could try to convince people that this was
self defense.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
There's no other defense, by the way, because in cold
blood he stabbed this kid. By the way, cut thirty two.
This spokesperson says the Carmelo Anthony case reminds us of
the black struggle in America.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
This is what he said, listen to this.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
And that is your constitutional right. It's people out here
reminding us of the black struggle in America.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
The black struggle in America is to kill a kid
at a track meet when the kid is unarmed and
there's no danger whatsoever. Again, I hate that this is
going to happen, but this has the potential to be
a truly nasty story in Texas. The fact that Buck,
(25:11):
they're living in a nine hundred thousand dollars gated community house.
Now they have bought a new car with the money
that's being donated to them. They let this killer, the
seventeen year old, out on a massively reduced bail from
one million down to two hundred and fifty thousand, which
means they only have to post twenty five thousand dollars.
(25:32):
And if you go look at the comments in the
four hundred plus thousand dollars that this family has raised,
some of the most vile racist comments you can possibly
imagine are being posted as people are posting their donations. Now,
if if this were a white kid that had stabbed
(25:57):
a black kid to death, if his bail had been
reduced from a million to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
if the family had moved into a gated community nine
hundred thousand dollar house. If they had bought a brand
new car, and if they were arguing this is the
struggle of being white in America, This would be the
(26:18):
number one story in America. If the comments on the
four hundred thousand dollars fundraiser were all as racist in
pro white sentiment and anti black sentiment as they are
pro black and anti white in the favor of this
Carmelo Anthony individual, it would be the number one story
(26:38):
in America, and it would be a sign of how
white supremacy has taken over the country in the Trump era.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
This is how it would be covered.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Well, imagine for a second, you know, to put this
into I think a context that really also shows how
grotesque what's going on is. A lot of you will
remember this. Back in South Carolina, there was a shooting
in twenty fifteen of a man named Walter Scott. He
was shot and killed and there's video, very clear video,
(27:05):
broad daylight. He is running away from a cop and
the cop draws down and shoots him at about twenty
five yards in the back and kills him as he's
running away. That is absolutely murder. That is absolutely not
in any rules of engagement or self defense or force
escalation regulations, and that officer ended up going away for
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I think it was it was murder. I can't remember
what the sentence was, but imagine for a second, Clay
if when that happened, that video came out and the
facts were not in dispute, all of a sudden, there
was this whole push to raise money for the officer
who shot this black guy and the back and killed
him for no reason, and that there were all these
all these spokesmen coming forward talking about the challenge of
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this white officer's life and how he you know, this
shows how tough it is on the job, and you
would say, what the heck.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Is wrong with these people? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
What is going on here that's happening right now with
this guy Carmelo Anthony in Texas? You have people that
are coming forward to really just celebrate them, celebrate the
murder and back up the murder of a young white
guy who did nothing to deserve being killed at all.
I don't know how it's very straightforward.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I've noticed.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Have you seen much coverage of this from like the
New York Times, Washington Post. I was looking for it.
I feel like they're not getting deep into this story yet,
am I.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Not right? No?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Not only that, Buck, remember when they started tracking down
everybody who donated to Kyle Rittenhouse for his defense fund. Yes,
I mean I remember some guy like donated fifty bucks
and a reporter showed up at their door. Do you
remember this story and outed them and did a full
report on, Hey, why are you donating to this to
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this this defense fund? Look at some of the comments
that are being made. To my knowledge, nobody's covering any
of the people that are donating to the defense fund. Now,
I'm not saying that I think that that was a
fair story in the first place. I think if you
donate fifty dollars to some charity event, I don't think
the Washington Post should show up at your door knocking
(29:14):
on it. But they did that to Kyle Rittenhouse's donors,
and I think one of the guys got fired in Utah.
I remember correctly, we're recalling old stories. Let's see if
I can nail that story too, like Buck did earlier
with Marilyn Moseby. But I remember just being in disbelief
that you could donate to a charitable cause in some
way and a reporter could show up at your doorstep
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asking why did you donate fifty fifty dollars a time
about fifty thousand dollars fifty dollars to Kyle Rittenhouse's defense fund?
Was worthy of you having a story written about you
and you being tracked down by a reporter to answer
for why you gave fifty dollars to his self defense fund.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's it's remarkable though, that this is this is happening,
and that you're not even you're not seeing any Democrat,
anybody with any standing in the Democrat or the black
community come forward to say, guys, this is not this
is not what we should be doing here.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
What are you you know?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, is he entitled to a defense? Yes, of course
he hasn't title legal defense. Is he entitled to all
the rights of the accused? Yes, he's in title all
the rights of the accused. Should you be you know,
publicly attacking the father of the deceased and giving this
kid's family a million dollar house to live in and
all raising money and writing things online about how the
white kid deserved it. That's what's going on. That's the
(30:38):
problem that we are seeing. That's what everyone I think
is is reacting to h and it is very interesting.
I wanted to check with you because I did a
couple of searches. New York Times, Washington Post not really
touching this because I think I think that some of
their reporters, and first of all, they're not as powerful
as they used to be. They can't withstand the screwtin
either way they used to. I think they realize, Clay,
you have a New York Times editorial, you know that's
(31:00):
that's playing this whole game of oh, we just need
to raise money so that he has a good legal
defense and everything else. They will get absolutely annihilated in public.
They can't defend this. This story.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
In Utah, they did an investigation into a Utah paramedic
who donated ten dollars to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
They showed up at his house to ask him why
he was doing it. And credit to our team for
finding it. Utah reporter tracking down a guy who donated
ten dollars.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know
there was a team outing last night. Play are standing?
A long standing debt was paid because I had promised
my old producer and still our producer, but my producer.
When I was doing a solo show, producer mock as
he became known to many of the audience. Uh I
told him, I said, because I was making fun of hockey,
(34:01):
and he said, if you went to see it, you
would love it. And then COVID happened and there was
no hockey for a long time, and then you know,
things fast forward.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's been a few years.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So producer Mark, producer Ali, producer Greg went to see
a Rangers game last night. Here's producer Mack weighing in play.
Aa Hey there, it's producer Mark.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Just wanted to pop on and say a big thank
you to Buck for buying us the tickets last night
to the New York Rangers game with my self, producer Ali,
and producer Greg. The Rangers may be absolutely atrocious this season,
but it's always an amazing experience. To go to my
favorite place in the world, Madison Square Garden, and to
get to see producer Ali see her first ever live
hockey game was truly an incredible experience her reaction to it,
(34:40):
and Greg got to see his first ever Rangers game
at MSG as well. So again, a big thank you
to Buck, we really do appreciate it, and you've got
to get to your own hockey game. Eventually. With baby James,
maybe he'll become a hockey player one day. I promised you,
Carrie and James will love the sport of hockey live.
There's absolutely nothing better in the world. So again, a
(35:01):
big thank you to Buck for the tickets, and to
thank you to you and Clay for all you guys
do for us.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But I know you're buying tickets for everybody. Good for you. Yeah,
of course this is the that's the debt, the debt
that I didn't know. I somehow missed the debt. I
think I knew they were going to the game.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
No, I promised producer Mark on air that I would
take him to a Rangers game, and that, you know,
I would get tickets for us to go to a
Rangers game as penance for talking smack about ice hockey,
right because Mark, producer Mark loves ice hockey. Now I
find out producer Greg loves ice hockey. He was ready
to throw the gloves on the ground and start throwing
some sluggers over this one. What didn't you say negative
(35:37):
about hockey? Just I was, you know, I was just
poking him because he loves it so much, you know
what I mean. It's like when I say you're old,
even though we could have been like the same on
the same high school team. It's just fun, you know.
So it was just giving him the giving him a
little bit of a rising.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
We are, by the way, Massive Square Garden is a
really cool place to go watch a sporting event. I
have to say I've been there for or in caa
tournament game. We come back, by the way. Andy McCarthy
is going to weigh in on this question about Letitia
James with us and more. Also, Mike Galla gonna be
(36:11):
with us third Hour. Get your popcorn, because there are
a lot of different directions we're gonna go. A lot
of people have weighed in about the short guys being
disrespected by the women.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The rise of the Short Kings. Clay, it is happening.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You know a lot of women out there, including I
believe at least one single woman. I'm curious to hear
what she has to say. Lisa Lisa Booth has weighed in.
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So we got them.
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And then also somebody else known to some as Chewbaka,
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Welcome in Friday edition. Good Friday addition. I know a
lot of you may have the day off. I know
all my kids do. So if you hear screaming yelling
in the background, I promise they're fine. They're probably just
playing video games downstairs. We've got a lot to dive into,
but one of my favorite, well, a couple of things
(00:20):
that are out there. First, this idiot Maryland senator has
been able to meet with the wife beating, the potentially
human trafficking the gang member, the illegal immigrant from El
Salvador who has been returned to El Salvador. I can't
believe this is the real resistance that Democrats are mustering.
(00:42):
We talked about yesterday, fifty six percent of Americans are
in favor of all.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Illegals being deported.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What do you think, just off the top of here,
Buck ninety ten, if you told people, Hey, this guy
from El Salvador who has clear gang affiliation with MS thirteen,
a very violent El Salvadorian gang. He has been accused
credibly by his own wife of beating her on multiple
occasions and the details are not pretty. In the Maryland
(01:08):
court proceeding related to that, he was pulled over in
the state of Tennessee, suspected of human trafficking. The Tennessee
State Highway Patrol contacted the FBI, and the FBI said,
just let him go. During Joe Biden's era of no
punishment for anyone who illegally entered the country, and we
(01:29):
know that he illegally entered the country, do you think
ten percent of Americans consider him to be a worthy
cause for a sitting United States Senator to obsess with
or for an American political party to decide is a
foundational issue for their representatives to be focused on.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think that it's a little higher than that, but
it's a very clear minority. I would guess it's more
like twenty eight to twenty five percent, because about twenty
percent of the country is politically insane and.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We could go through because it's about that.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Also, even on the you know, eighteen year old boys
should be able to play against eighteen year old girls
if they say they're trends in sports. I mean, you
look at some of these issues, Clay, and we're dealing
with a country that's twenty percent wacko. I would say, yeah,
that's my general. So so it's it's somewhere around there.
I would just throw into the mix here. You know, Clay,
(02:22):
there's there's no way that they're going to easily change
their minds on how they're going to approach Trump with
any of this. But he's not giving them a lot
to work with. Yeah, right, he's not.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Doing things that would be easy for.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
A rational political party to oppose.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The stuff that he's doing.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And you know, the one place that they thought they
were getting some traction was on tariffs. Okay, he did
a ninety day pause, and he's negotiating. Let's see, markets
have stabilized, let's see right that, so that people won't
get people can't get that freaked out about it, because
that's still very much in progress. And at the end
of it, I think he may and he may have
some really great deals done. So they've decided to go
(03:03):
with this. And while I agree with you it's not
a strong hand they are playing, I don't know what
other hand they have to play.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
What are they gonna say, kick the borders wide open again,
we want all the illegals coming in.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We will talk about that a little bit more. I
also encourage you, if you are still angry about COVID.
As we are in the five year anniversary of fifteen days,
I think to stop the spread basically right, it's a
little bit past that, but go right now on your
phones to covid dot gov. The White House has taken
(03:38):
over covid dot gov and their buck are all sorts
of things on that website, including, among others, masks. Don't
do anything to stop the spread. There was all sorts
of conflicting guidance. This leaked from a Chinese lab. Doctor
Fauci was involved in the cover up.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
This is a reckoning for those of us out there
that have wanted a reckoning for all the lies we
were told during COVID. Covid dot gov check it out
and make sure that you do not miss it. Today
it is a incredible good Friday for those of us
out there who have been demanding this reckoning. Speaking of reckonings,
(04:22):
though Buck, our good friend Leticia James, just to confirm staff,
she has still not accepted our offer to come on.
I'm assuming and we have not gotten any word from
Kathy Hokel. I'm assuming either or Andrew Cuomo, but they
have the opportunity to come on and talk about this.
She says, remember to refresh New York Attorney General Leticia James,
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who said no one is above the law and no
one should be able to lie on a mortgage application
to get favorable treatment.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
These were her own words, not mine.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
She now says that despite the fact that she has
been caught lying on her mortgage applictions, this is just
President Trump's revenge tour. She has spoken out about the
lies and the fraud that she has committed, and she says,
this is just about President Trump back. You predicted this.
But let's listen to cut four.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Let me just say to all New Yorkers and to
all Americans, the allegations are baseless. The allegations are nothing
more than a revenge tour. And as you mentioned, my
office was successful in securing a four hundred and fifty
four million dollar judgment against Donald Trump and others for
exaggerating the value of his assets, engaged in a patent
(05:40):
and practice of fraud, and the interest is accruing each
and every day while the case is on appeal in
the First Department. It's important that individuals know that this
is nothing more than the continuation of the tour he
went after law firms universities, immigrants, women of federal employees
(06:01):
right now are unemployed. Our government is in chaos and
in disarray, Medicaid, social Security.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, let's go ahead and cut her off here. So Buck,
am I missing it? Or did she explain anything about
why she lied on her mortgage claim in that in
that litany that we played for you, she's going going all.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
In on the Clay Davis maneuver here from the wire, which, again,
for those of you haven't seen it, a black politician
in Baltimore Democrat is caught red handed, red handed with
a mortgage fraud and he just gets up on the
stand and is like, this is racism. I've done so
much for my community, has nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, just figure and he gets off right.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's it's that's the move that she's pulling here, except
in this case she's just leaning in on the anti
Trump thing, not the this is you know, racist persecution. Yes,
she's saying that this is all about going after Trump. No,
it's actually all about whether you committed mortgage fraud. And
she won't to it, but I will say this, if
you haven't committed, you know, I get how this game goes.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know to Clay, if.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You haven't committed mortgage fraud, I mean, when you say
the allegations are baseless, why don't you just say I
didn't do this thing?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I feel like she's speaking about this in a very
loyally way that doesn't address did you do it?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well? This is also the problem she's in.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'll play cut six here in a moment, but the
problem she's in, as we told you, this isn't a
complicated case, right. A lot of allegations of impropriety are
really complicated. They kind of make your eyes roll back
into your head. Most of you, at some point in time,
either have or will fill out a mortgage application. It
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is not believable to me that the chief legal officer,
a highly trained lawyer of New York, would accidentally click
that her primary residence is in virgin or would accidentally
say that she's married to her dad, both of which
work in her favor to lower the rate of mortgage
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that she might otherwise have to pay.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I would also add to that, Clay, you and I
have bought houses. A lot of people listening, I'd probably
most of the people listening have bought a house. At
some point in time you have conversations with your lender.
This isn't just This isn't like checking a box when
you're in a hurry at Walmart to you know, return
something and oh, I clicked the wrong thing. This is
(08:30):
a major This is the largest purchase that ninety nine
percent of people in the country makes a home, all right,
And unless you're getting like a Bezos yacht. And this
is a situation where she would have had conversations with
her lender about whether this is an investment property or
a primary residence.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We've gone through this, so there's so many way there
is no defense.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There's no defense because it's not possible. She would know
that she got a preferential rate. She would know what
the status. So this home is I own investment properties
and I own my home. There's no way you could
make this mistake the way she has an error, right,
it's not possible. And it's again, I think it's so key.
The Virginia property, in particular, she can't have lived there
(09:17):
as her primary residence because legally she is required to
live in the state of New York because she is
New York's Attorney General. But make no mistake her only
defense is to claim Donald Trump or hey, this is sexism,
this is racism. Here's cut six. She says people are
harassing her relatives in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
This is also I know you said she spoke loyally,
but this is also an admission in some ways that
people other than her are living in her primary residence
in a different state.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Cut six.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I was under the impression by all of this that
what they were really looking for is what they got,
which is a headline saying, you know, James is under
were a criminal investigation.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Is that pretty much what's going on here?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, that's what they got. That's what they got. And
it's unfortunate that you have some of these right wing
conservative individuals who are camped out in front of my
home and in front of the homes of my relatives
in Virginia, harassing them each and every day. And it's
unfortunate knocking on the doors of my neighbors and the
neighbors of my relatives in the state of Virginia. And
(10:29):
it is nothing more than a headline, nothing more than again,
retaliation against all of the actions that I have taken
successfully against Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay, okay, but again, yeah, dived. Sorry are We're both
very fired up, and I don't want to ever cross
talk Clay.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I just Clay play.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
First of all, she wasn't successful in so far as
she's president now, and the whole game was to destroy
it important. Yeah, right, I think it's kind of a
big deal. Right, She's like, I was so successful hmm,
actually not so much.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
He won. Uh But but.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Beyond that, the way that she's talking about this, it's
she's not addressing any of the things because I think
she knows the information is going to come out that
she did the thing, and then she's just going to
say it doesn't matter. You should nullify. You know, this
is gonna be the implicit argument you should nullify mortgage
(11:25):
fraud statutes because I'm anti I'm a I'm an anti
Trump warrior for the Democrats, and that's gonna be the whole,
the whole thing. This is why I think they need
to bring state and federal charges in multiple jurisdictions, because
you don't know what the jury pool you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I don't know what Norfolk looks like. I do know
New York City. There may be a juror that will
sit on that trial. And say I don't care that
she dead, the lights liied, but I will not convict her.
I just actually spent for the first time I was
in We've got a great station in Norfolk. I was
there for the first time recently when I was training
with DJ Shipley at GBRS with my brothers, we overnighted
(12:04):
in Norfolk. I'm just it's a navy town, but it's
a heavily Democrat town. It's about forty percent I believe
African American, heavily democrat town. So you know, if you
look into how this is going to go, she may
be able to run the political game essentially in both
jurisdictions that well, it all depends who's on the jury,
(12:25):
right and this all Surrey selection is going to be everything.
If you bring charges, I don't think you could stay
and be the Attorney General of New York if you're
facing felony charges in the state of New York. I
can't imagine. This is why we've reached out to Kathy Hokel,
who so far has stayed fairly quiet. I don't understand
how you could be the chief law enforcement officer of
(12:47):
the State of New York and be facing felony charges
for lying on your mortgage applications. I think she would
have to resign. Yes, I think that's just find the charges.
I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So there's probably behind the scenes well, as we discussed,
the power to prosecute is the power to destroy. Oh,
it doesn't matter even if you win, or if you're
innocent or anything else, the decision to prosecute. I would
just add this though, Clay, into our discussion about this.
We already saw with Hunter Biden that when you have
a Democrat who is important to the Democrat apparatus, they
(13:20):
can be flagrantly guilty of the clearest felony statutory violations
and somehow they'll get away with it. So that was
the game that she was playing, right, Hunter Biden didn't
pay taxes, hid money, money laundering, you know, a whole
bunch of things. You get not a day, not a
day in prison, everybody, not one day.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Difference is you don't have a Democrat president to bail
out to James if this goest federal. But I think
she's certainly relying on the state charges to evaporate very
very suddenly.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So this is this is by the way, wasn't the.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
H didn't Carolyn mose Guys check this for me, the
prosecutor in Baltimore who was very high profile for a while,
Marilyn Moseby.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Didn't she go away for mortgage fraud? Or wasn't there
a mortgage fraud issue? I think that's the right one.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I think guys check that one for me, because this
would just be remarkable if I'm pulling this out of
the memory bank and I'm correct. It's Friday, so I
might be off, but we'll see, and we're gonna take
your calls on this one. I'm also just gonna get
this out of the way right away.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
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ladies who like their men tall short kings defending their height.
It was crazy last twenty four hours. And some close
friends of the show have also weighed in. So it's Friday,
We're gonna have some fun with that later on. Get
ready for it. I want you to be prepared for
this uncertain financial future we're heading into right now.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I think long term it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
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Welcome back into Clay and Fuck. We're stacked today on
the show. Want to take your calls, want to get
your talkbacks. I just want to note that, yes, my
recall still pretty good, Still pretty sure. Marilyn Moseby best known,
I think for being the prosecutor in the state prosecutor
in Baltimore who was involved with the Freddie Gray investigation
(16:33):
and also did not pursue aggressively charges against people that
were involved in race riots in Baltimore, burning down you know,
drug stores, things like that. In twenty twenty three, she
was found guilty on two counts of perjury for lying
about business losses to make penalty free withdrawals from her
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retirement account. She used the money to buy vacation homes
in Florida. In February twenty two, twenty four, a jury
found that she committed mortgage fraud after lying in documents
about a five thousand dollars gift her then husband, Baltimore
City Council President Nick Mosby, gave to her to close
on a condominium in Florida. So yeah, another woke progressive
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hero who was a prosecutor putting other people in prison.
Clay for this guilty of mortgage fraud and she was not.
She got twelve months home confinement. They gave her a
sweetheart deal, but felony conviction. You said she's getting disbarred.
I think Leticia James and I think she's in trouble Clay.
I don't think she's going to be able to find
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a way out of.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
This one easily the moment the charges are filed, and
I would encourage people to file charges sooner rather than later.
This is not complicated. I think she'll be forced to
step down, disbarment proceed proceedings will begin.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
She's finished. Yeah, there's no other way around it. So
we'll see.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's all about the question to make if they bring
that charge, it's all over for one of the anti
Trump zealots of the prosecutorial.
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
Back in Clay Travis Buck sex show.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But unfortunately, I think this story is going to continue
to grow, and it's got a really nasty, divisive tone
to it. But I want to make sure that we
are keeping you informed on it. In Frisco, Texas, which
is I believe north of Dallas, Texas, we had a
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seventeen year old kid stabbed to death at a track meet,
and the kid that was stabbed to death at the
track meet was it appears essentially one hundred percent innocent.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Uh and.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Kid's name was Austin Metcalf. And yesterday Carmelo Anthony's legal
defense slash advising team decided that they needed to have
a press conference. Carmelo Anthony has admitted to stabbing this
other seventeen year old kid to death again at the
(20:05):
track meet. His family has since raised nearly five hundred
thousand dollars. They have moved into a nine hundred thousand
dollar mansion. There are reports that they have bought a
new car as well, and they now are saying we
are the victims. This was the beginning of the press conference.
(20:26):
The father of the young man who was killed came
to the press conference and the spokesperson started off. They
called police on him. He's also been swatted. But they
started off the press conference by saying, it's disrespectful for
the dad of the dad of the killed young man
(20:50):
to decide to show up at this press conference. I
just want you guys to be aware of what's going
on here. This is cut thirty.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
All I'm going to say, so it don't be asked
later that was disrespectful and just shows you all the
character who is not invited. He knows that is inappropriate
to be near this family, but he did it. And
(21:17):
so I say to people, actions speak louder than words. Okay.
What he has filled into is the political operatives that
want to make this thing a political thing of hate,
get bigotry and yet racism. We have conservative operatives that
(21:40):
have been posting none stop about this case.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I boggled beyond belief. Let me give you the name,
by the way of this guy, because he sounds like
an unbelievable moron. The spokesperson's name is Dominique Alexander. That's
not the attorney. I don't believe. I think it's a
spokes person. But but to start off by saying, well,
your character's in question because you're the dad of the
murdered kid and you show up at the press cup,
(22:08):
I can't believe this is real.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, well this is Everyone who is paying attention to
this case is seeing something quite clearly. There is bigotry
and racism involved, but it is from black people against
white people. Yeah, that is what is going on. And
you can look at the comments being written all over
the GoFundMe or however they're raising the money. You can
look at the racial animist that is on display, and
(22:32):
that is actually very much going from some members. I
think it's a very small minority, but some members of
the black community who have decided to become involved in
this case, to give money, to give support. It's really
just about showing their disdain and animis for white people,
and it's out in the open. I don't know how
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else to describe it other than just to tell you
what is going on here. They they are treating this
as though it's some kind of venue for previous wrongs.
That this young man who was just murdered in the
arms of his brother and in front of his father,
in front of all their high school classmates. Somehow this
is writing a historical wrong. I mean, this is demonic stuff.
(23:15):
This is stuff of the demon that you are seeing
here in terms of the mentality, the immorality, and if
they want to make this into an OJ thing they
being this spokesperson and some of the other kind of
race hustlers who are around this, and then people who
are rallying behind this kid, it's going to be really
(23:38):
bad for everybody, and it's going to be really bad
for the country. The facts of this case look very
clear that this was a grotesque over reaction from a
young man that led him to murder somebody, that he
had no business pulling a kniphon or doing anything like
this in the first place, and he should pay his
debt to society, and that means a very long prison sentence.
(24:00):
I do not see this as the facts are not
in dispute over what happened. The self defense claim and
had top Matt Walsher pointing this out. This kid when
the police arrives, like, oh, well, do you think I
could claim self defense? Let me tell you something. If
you pull a gun or a knife and you're using
a self defense, you think you're doing self defense right away.
You don't think about this after the fact. You're like,
(24:21):
maybe I could try to convince people that this was
self defense.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
There's no other defense, by the way, because in cold
blood he stabbed this kid. By the way, cut thirty two.
This spokesperson says the Carmelo Anthony case reminds us of
the black struggle in America.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
This is what he said, listen to this.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
And that is your constitutional right. It's people out here
reminding us of the black struggle in America.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
The black struggle in America is to kill a kid
at a track meet when the kid is unarmed and
there's no danger whatsoever. Again, I hate that this is
going to happen, but this has the potential to be
a truly nasty story in Texas. The fact that Buck,
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they're living in a nine hundred thousand dollars gated community house.
Now they have bought a new car with the money
that's being donated to them. They let this killer, the
seventeen year old, out on a massively reduced bail from
one million down to two hundred and fifty thousand, which
means they only have to post twenty five thousand dollars.
(25:32):
And if you go look at the comments in the
four hundred plus thousand dollars that this family has raised,
some of the most vile racist comments you can possibly
imagine are being posted as people are posting their donations. Now,
if if this were a white kid that had stabbed
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a black kid to death, if his bail had been
reduced from a million to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
if the family had moved into a gated community nine
hundred thousand dollar house. If they had bought a brand
new car, and if they were arguing this is the
struggle of being white in America, This would be the
(26:18):
number one story in America. If the comments on the
four hundred thousand dollars fundraiser were all as racist in
pro white sentiment and anti black sentiment as they are
pro black and anti white in the favor of this
Carmelo Anthony individual, it would be the number one story
(26:38):
in America, and it would be a sign of how
white supremacy has taken over the country in the Trump era.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
This is how it would be covered.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Well, imagine for a second, you know, to put this
into I think a context that really also shows how
grotesque what's going on is. A lot of you will
remember this. Back in South Carolina, there was a shooting
in twenty fifteen of a man named Walter Scott. He
was shot and killed and there's video, very clear video,
(27:05):
broad daylight. He is running away from a cop and
the cop draws down and shoots him at about twenty
five yards in the back and kills him as he's
running away. That is absolutely murder. That is absolutely not
in any rules of engagement or self defense or force
escalation regulations, and that officer ended up going away for
(27:31):
I think it was it was murder. I can't remember
what the sentence was, but imagine for a second, Clay
if when that happened, that video came out and the
facts were not in dispute, all of a sudden, there
was this whole push to raise money for the officer
who shot this black guy and the back and killed
him for no reason, and that there were all these
all these spokesmen coming forward talking about the challenge of
(27:52):
this white officer's life and how he you know, this
shows how tough it is on the job, and you
would say, what the heck.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Is wrong with these people? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
What is going on here that's happening right now with
this guy Carmelo Anthony in Texas? You have people that
are coming forward to really just celebrate them, celebrate the
murder and back up the murder of a young white
guy who did nothing to deserve being killed at all.
I don't know how it's very straightforward.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I've noticed.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Have you seen much coverage of this from like the
New York Times, Washington Post. I was looking for it.
I feel like they're not getting deep into this story yet,
am I.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Not right? No?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Not only that, Buck, remember when they started tracking down
everybody who donated to Kyle Rittenhouse for his defense fund. Yes,
I mean I remember some guy like donated fifty bucks
and a reporter showed up at their door. Do you
remember this story and outed them and did a full
report on, Hey, why are you donating to this to
(28:53):
this this defense fund? Look at some of the comments
that are being made. To my knowledge, nobody's covering any
of the people that are donating to the defense fund. Now,
I'm not saying that I think that that was a
fair story in the first place. I think if you
donate fifty dollars to some charity event, I don't think
the Washington Post should show up at your door knocking
(29:14):
on it. But they did that to Kyle Rittenhouse's donors,
and I think one of the guys got fired in Utah.
I remember correctly, we're recalling old stories. Let's see if
I can nail that story too, like Buck did earlier
with Marilyn Moseby. But I remember just being in disbelief
that you could donate to a charitable cause in some
way and a reporter could show up at your doorstep
(29:37):
asking why did you donate fifty fifty dollars a time
about fifty thousand dollars fifty dollars to Kyle Rittenhouse's defense fund?
Was worthy of you having a story written about you
and you being tracked down by a reporter to answer
for why you gave fifty dollars to his self defense fund.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
It's it's remarkable though, that this is this is happening,
and that you're not even you're not seeing any Democrat,
anybody with any standing in the Democrat or the black
community come forward to say, guys, this is not this
is not what we should be doing here.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
What are you you know?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, is he entitled to a defense? Yes, of course
he hasn't title legal defense. Is he entitled to all
the rights of the accused? Yes, he's in title all
the rights of the accused. Should you be you know,
publicly attacking the father of the deceased and giving this
kid's family a million dollar house to live in and
all raising money and writing things online about how the
white kid deserved it. That's what's going on. That's the
(30:38):
problem that we are seeing. That's what everyone I think
is is reacting to h and it is very interesting.
I wanted to check with you because I did a
couple of searches. New York Times, Washington Post not really
touching this because I think I think that some of
their reporters, and first of all, they're not as powerful
as they used to be. They can't withstand the screwtin
either way they used to. I think they realize, Clay,
you have a New York Times editorial, you know that's
(31:00):
that's playing this whole game of oh, we just need
to raise money so that he has a good legal
defense and everything else. They will get absolutely annihilated in public.
They can't defend this. This story.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
In Utah, they did an investigation into a Utah paramedic
who donated ten dollars to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
They showed up at his house to ask him why
he was doing it. And credit to our team for
finding it. Utah reporter tracking down a guy who donated
ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
As I told you guys yesterday, I'm really loving this
this book mal the untold story about the rise of
malt stongue and what he did. And I know it
sounds like I'm making a huge I'm weaving way too
far here. But you read about the culture Revolution, Clay
and the mentality, and you're just like, Yeah, that's Democrats.
In the first two years of Biden's administration. He's completely
drunk on power, no principles, no fair play, whatever they
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can do.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To destroy anybody in the way.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You know, they took it to the max, and now
they're paying the prices they as they absolutely should.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Uh.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know
there was a team outing last night. Play are standing?
A long standing debt was paid because I had promised
my old producer and still our producer, but my producer.
When I was doing a solo show, producer mock as
he became known to many of the audience. Uh I
told him, I said, because I was making fun of hockey,
(34:01):
and he said, if you went to see it, you
would love it. And then COVID happened and there was
no hockey for a long time, and then you know,
things fast forward.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's been a few years.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
So producer Mark, producer Ali, producer Greg went to see
a Rangers game last night. Here's producer Mack weighing in play.
Aa Hey there, it's producer Mark.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Just wanted to pop on and say a big thank
you to Buck for buying us the tickets last night
to the New York Rangers game with my self, producer Ali,
and producer Greg. The Rangers may be absolutely atrocious this season,
but it's always an amazing experience. To go to my
favorite place in the world, Madison Square Garden, and to
get to see producer Ali see her first ever live
hockey game was truly an incredible experience her reaction to it,
(34:40):
and Greg got to see his first ever Rangers game
at MSG as well. So again, a big thank you
to Buck, we really do appreciate it, and you've got
to get to your own hockey game. Eventually. With baby James,
maybe he'll become a hockey player one day. I promised you,
Carrie and James will love the sport of hockey live.
There's absolutely nothing better in the world. So again, a
(35:01):
big thank you to Buck for the tickets, and to
thank you to you and Clay for all you guys
do for us.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But I know you're buying tickets for everybody. Good for you. Yeah,
of course this is the that's the debt, the debt
that I didn't know. I somehow missed the debt. I
think I knew they were going to the game.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
No, I promised producer Mark on air that I would
take him to a Rangers game, and that, you know,
I would get tickets for us to go to a
Rangers game as penance for talking smack about ice hockey,
right because Mark, producer Mark loves ice hockey. Now I
find out producer Greg loves ice hockey. He was ready
to throw the gloves on the ground and start throwing
some sluggers over this one. What didn't you say negative
(35:37):
about hockey? Just I was, you know, I was just
poking him because he loves it so much, you know
what I mean. It's like when I say you're old,
even though we could have been like the same on
the same high school team. It's just fun, you know.
So it was just giving him the giving him a
little bit of a rising.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
We are, by the way, Massive Square Garden is a
really cool place to go watch a sporting event. I
have to say I've been there for or in caa
tournament game. We come back, by the way. Andy McCarthy
is going to weigh in on this question about Letitia
James with us and more. Also, Mike Galla gonna be
(36:11):
with us third Hour. Get your popcorn, because there are
a lot of different directions we're gonna go. A lot
of people have weighed in about the short guys being
disrespected by the women.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The rise of the Short Kings. Clay, it is happening.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
You know a lot of women out there, including I
believe at least one single woman. I'm curious to hear
what she has to say. Lisa Lisa Booth has weighed in.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The Lovely Lisa Booth from Fox News and The Clay
and Buck podcast Network. The Lovely Carol Markowitz, mother of three,
from the Play and Buck podcast network.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So we got them.
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And then also somebody else known to some as Chewbaka,
but you all know him as a radio host on
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