June 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the most pressing political and cultural issues dominating the national conversation. With Clay Travis on vacation, Buck Sexton leads the hour with sharp commentary and analysis, emphasizing the growing strength of President Donald Trump in national polling across key issues like the economy, immigration, and border security. The segment highlights how recent CNN data reflects a significant shift in public sentiment favoring Trump, much to the dismay of Democrats and liberal media outlets. A major focus of the hour is the escalating crisis of antisemitism in America, particularly in the wake of a targeted firebombing attack in Boulder, Colorado. Buck discusses the ideological roots of this violence, linking it to radical anti-Israel sentiment and the broader rise of pro-Hamas activism on college campuses. He critiques the left’s framing of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, arguing that it is often reduced to a simplistic racial narrative that vilifies Israel and excuses terrorism. The show also features a passionate defense of Israel’s right to self-defense following the October 7th attacks, condemning calls for ceasefires that ignore the brutality of Hamas. Buck draws historical parallels and critiques the American left’s tendency to blame the West for global conflicts, asserting that such views embolden extremism and undermine national security. In addition, the hour includes a discussion on illegal immigration and national security, spotlighting how the Colorado attacker exploited the U.S. asylum system. Buck warns that President Biden’s open border policies are creating vulnerabilities that could be exploited by bad actors. Listeners are reminded of the importance of moral clarity in confronting terrorism and antisemitism, with Buck urging Americans to stand firmly against hate and in support of democratic allies like Israel. The hour concludes with a preview of upcoming topics, including more on immigration policy and the economic outlook under President Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is having
a great time on vacation. He was in the Bahamas.
He's working on his tan. He wears sandals year round,
so nothing new there, but he's having a good time.
(00:20):
He'll be back with us on Friday. Just meet today,
Tomorrow and Thursday. You are riding with the Buckster and
we have much to discuss here. Our friend Ryan Graduski
will also be with us of the Clay Endbuck podcast Network,
talking to him about the latest data from CNN. It
just keeps getting worse for the Libs and the Democrats.
(00:42):
The numbers increasingly showing that wherever it is that you
pull on any important issue in the country, right now,
Trump is much stronger, is doing much better than the
Democrats anticipated, hoped for and have tried very hard to
from being the overall perception. So we'll get into some
(01:04):
of that more on the immigration and border issue. Tom
Homan just the guy's just an all star, you know.
It's it's so nice to see and this is true
in a number of the senior Trump administration roles. It's
just so nice to have people who know exactly what
they're doing and are totally in line with the Trump agenda,
(01:28):
and they're making moves every day to that end. So
I just think that it is critical. And on the border,
there may be nothing, maybe no issue that is honestly
more important. I think the border and the economy are
side by side. You know, thanks to Trump, we're not
getting involved in any crazy wars anytime soon. So we
shall dive into that. But I did want to take
(01:49):
a few moments here to update the story we talked
about yesterday about this fire bombing terror attack in Colorado
and what this tells us about not only the kinds
of ideological hatred that are spreading in this country under
(02:14):
this I think often this shield of oh, I'm not
anti Jewish or an anti Semitic, I'm just anti Zionist. Well,
I don't know a lot of Zionists who aren't Jews.
I think the i'm just anti Zionist or even anti
Israel it's doing a lot of work in that sentence.
(02:37):
What is it that they really object to? And, as
I have pointed out to you and I will continue
to do so. There are many places around the world
where there is extreme violence, there is very real oppression,
and there are plenty of ways you could argue we
should put more pressure on or we should do something now,
whether you believe we should or not, as a separate issue,
(02:59):
but we could theoretically do more.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And yet because it.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Cannot be blamed on the Jewish people, you know the
situation in South Sudan, because it is very tough to
make that about Zionism. These individuals who are so upset
on college campuses and just on streets in cities across America,
they have nothing to.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Say about it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It doesn't even register with them. The realities of Middle
East totalitarianism as it pertains to places like Iran, for example,
that is not a problem that gets protests in the streets.
People who think they care about women's rights on the
left have no issue with Iran, at least no issue.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They're willing to speak about publicly.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But endless issues with Israel and endless issues with Gaza.
And I think we all see what that's all about.
You'll also notice this, and as I've told you before,
this was the first issue of foreign policy that I
ever spent real time on it was going on now
(04:05):
over twenty years. When I first I worked at the
Washington Institute for Neery's Policy. I was an intern for
Clinton's Ambassador Dennis Ross, who was Ambassador Ross was the
negotiator on the Arab Israeli peace accords under the Clinton administration.
Camp David didn't work, but they tried. I also worked
at the Council on Foreign Relations, Council on Form Relations.
(04:28):
You know, they got the Builderbergs, the Illuminati. No Council
on Foreign Relations. I did work there as an intern,
so trust me, I didn't know the secret handshakes or
the secret tunnels or any of that stuff. But I
worked there on the US Middle East Project, which was
also an Arab Israeli peace project initiative. So I started,
as many do my academic background in Middle East studies
(04:49):
on this issue of Israel Palestine, and so I do
have some institutional memory. I do have some recall, not
just of how it is now, but how it has
been the last twenty years. And what you see is
that there are a lot of people who care not
a bit about foreign policy as a general matter, but
they care so much about what's going on with Israel,
(05:14):
and you say, well, why is that? Why is Israel
the place? And you know we say these things rhetorically.
I think we know why, and I think that in
the context of America. First of all, there's a tremendous
amount of anti Jewish feeling throughout the Muslim world. That
is just a reality, that is a truth. You can
even think to the character Borat, I always thought this
(05:37):
was fascinating. Remember Alimber when ali G was another one
of his characters. Sasha Baron Cohen, who is Jewish last
name is Cohen, a common Jewish last name. Sasha Baron
Cohen playing the Alig character, playing Borat, and Borat became
this big famous movie. Kazakhstan is a Muslim country, and
one of the bits that Sasha Baron Cohen would do
(06:00):
was constantly kind of satirizing the just blatant anti Semitism
of the supposed Kazakh Borat. Now he got away with
this because he never got away with that, and you know,
the Left didn't get angry about it because he never
mentioned this was a effectively a Muslim character that he
was playing. But there's a tremendous amount of anti Semitism
(06:22):
throughout the Muslim world, and no serious person would argue otherwise,
or no person who knows what they're talking about. Now,
there's a lot of anti Semitism in Europe, and clearly
a lot of anti Semitism in America too, but it
is worse in.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The Islamic world by far.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And ask any Jew you know who knows anything about
these regions, and they'll say, yeah, that is certainly the case.
But why is it that this goes to the front
of the line. Why is this so important to the
American left? Was as I've discussed here, as I've laid forward,
and I know Clay has adopted this to his own
thinking as well. This is a white versus brown conflict
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in the minds of the American left. The Israelis are white,
the Palestinians are brown. Therefore, the moral high ground is
set and unchangeable in favor of the brown Palestinians. Whatever
they have to do is justified. They are oppressed.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They are the.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Ones who are suffering any action, including the most heinous
and vicious actions humanly possible or thinkable, which Hamas and
affiliated and assorted terrorist groups on behalf of the Palestinians
comprised of Palestinians have engaged in is inherently justified because
they're so oppressed.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I've said this before.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
If October seventh wouldn't turn people against the Palestinian cause
such as it is, because the cause is not an
independent state. The cause is the eradication of the Jewish state.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That is the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It is obvious to anyone paying attention who is being honest.
But if that won't turn you against the cause, or
if there won't be criticism from people after that, there
is nothing that will make them critical of this. There
is nothing that will turn them and make them that
the Palestinians perhaps should look inward and take a different approach.
(08:05):
And I think that couldn't be more clear than it
is right now. This is why I remind everyone the
so called Glorious martyrs and the resistance of groups like
Hamas stretching back into the Second Intifada in the early
two thousands was just a series of suicide bombings meant
to bring Israeli life to a halt, to a standstill,
(08:25):
to destroy the daily lives of Israelis, and to murder
as many Israelis women and children as possible. A moral person,
a moral person from any country, from any culture, of
any religion or skin color. A moral person does not
go into a crowded restaurant with a suicide vest on
packed with ball bearings, killing himself and everyone else there
(08:49):
because they think that somehow this is going to achieve
what exactly revenge a state. No one's even what they want,
because what they want is the manifestation of and the
right to act on deep hatred. And that brings me
to Colorado and this individual Egyptian national came to this
(09:13):
country claiming he wants asylum. Think about that for a moment.
You know, this reminds me of there's something particularly heinous,
and you see this playing out in a number of
different very very you know, well known and well made
movies about World War Two. But it was well known
(09:35):
and some of those who had you know, veteran particularly
a marine and army dads fighting in World War Two,
it was well known that the Japanese, as one of
their tactics, would claim that they were wounded and surrender
and then they would actually have a grenade, and so
they would say, please, please don't kill me, I'm wounded,
(09:56):
I can't fight, and then urgis would go over because
our people were always trying to be humane in the
most inhumane circumstances, and they would go and then they
would be blown up by this person.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And this was common.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You see this in a hole, you see this in
thin red line, you see this in letters from me, Regima.
Somebody who claims asylum in your country is on that
same moral plane. They're saying, please, I need to skip
the line. I'm in a desperate situation. I have to
get away from my home country. My home country is
so awful that if you send me back, I could
(10:31):
be tortured and killed. Please, out of the kindness of
your heart, take me in. This individual, this terrorist in Colorado,
said that he wanted asylum, used our process, use the
goodness of the American people, used our mercy against us
and against our Jewish brothers and sisters in Colorado who
(10:55):
were burned severely.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
In this attack.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And now we even we have more details, we know
this was absolutely not just an act of terror, but
a premeditated and particularly vicious one. It is hard to
think of something that is more awful than intentionally lighting
defenseless people on fire, but that is what Mohammad Suliman,
who disguised himself as a gardener in an orange vest
(11:22):
so he could get as close as possible to these
individuals in Boulder, Colorado. That is what Mohammed Sliman wanted
to do. And he believed his actions just not just then,
but after the fact. He believes, because he has set
it to law enforcement, that this was vengeance for quote
his people, his people, his Egyptian You might say to yourself,
(11:49):
what is he talking about. Oh, okay, you mean Muslim, brown,
non Jews. That's essentially what he means by his people,
or rather the people that he associates with, who hate
the Jewish people. If you do not understand these hatreds
and see how they are, for one side, immovable and
(12:10):
unfortunately central to the society. The hatred of Jews is
central to the people of Gaza. Look at their textbooks,
their whole initiatives. They've been going on for years to
show people what is taught about Jews in the schools
such as there are schools in places like Gaza and
in the West Bank.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And it couldn't be more clear.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Which side of this issue all of us should be on.
And yet you have not just radical fringe elements of
the left. You have the Democrat Party itself sympathetic to
and making room for this virulent anti Semitism. This is
now replaced the kneeling for George Floyd. You have to understand,
(12:53):
this is filling that hole in the soul of all
of these leftists in America who think that we must
always be having some sort of racial reckoning. I know
it isn't reasonable or even logical, but they view the
Israelis fighting Hamas as a racial reckoning of white oppression
(13:17):
against the non white adversary here, and so this is
why they attach themselves to this, they feel. So they
don't know anything about the Balfour Declaration, about the Nakbab,
about nineteen forty eight, about UN Resolution two four to two,
or UN Resolution three three eight, or the nineteen seventy
three war, or the I mean, go down the list.
(13:39):
That they don't know anything about the removal of Israelis
of settlers from Gaza and the destruction of greenhouses and
the destruction of infrastructure and.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
All that they don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
They don't All they know is they have been told
the Jews, the white people here who are Jews, are
the bad people, and they are obsessed with the virtue
signaling of marching around campus proclaiming to care so much
about the oppressed and the dispossessed, and that ideology, unfortunately
(14:14):
also inspires and creates far too much room for maniacs
like this Molotov cocktail throwing murderer or attempted murderer who
thought that lighting defenseless people on fire was people he
had never met before, who had never done anything to him.
(14:35):
And here we are now seeing, once again, just like
we saw in October seventh, there is a side of
evil and the side of decency here, and every American
gets to choose the Democrats largely for the most part,
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Speaker 3 (16:00):
He is lighting Jewish people on fire who were simply
trying to peacefully pay.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Respect to the hostages in Israel. This absolutely is an
act of targeted terrorism.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
The FBI and the Department of Justice are investigating it
as such, and the President is going to ensure that
this individual is held to the fullest extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Now, that is a particularly heinous thing, as we discussed,
I mean to light people on fire. My shooting people
is horrific and it's murderous and right. This guy wanted
to get a gun. He couldn't get a gun because
there are a lot of gun laws that prevent people
in his circumstance from getting them. Doesn't mean you can't
steal them or get them otherwise, of course, But to
light people on fire, to create a homemade flamethrower, to
(16:43):
bring molotov cocktails. This guy, this terrorist, has a wife
and five children.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Think about that. This guy has a wife and five kids.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Apparently he hid all of this from them, that's what
the reporting says. And from the kids. I'm sure he did,
and maybe from the wife too. But what kind of
monster has five children who he is raising, who he
has spent time. You know, I'm a new dad, and
there's so much that you appreciate about life, and there's
(17:17):
so much that makes you think about someone else, something
else is more important in life than you, than your whims,
than your politics.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's one of the most incredible things about.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Being a dad, right or a mom. And you've been
a dad five times over, and you know so little
of life and what is precious and what matters that
you're going to go light elderly Jewish people on fire
because you disapprove of what a different country is doing.
(17:51):
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situation on college camp, I mean on a sorry college campus.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Isn't across the country right now?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
The anti Semitism, especially in the aftermath of this awful
terrorist attack.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
As I said, this guy was married, the terrorist here, married.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Five kids and just wanted to go and light a
bunch of Jews on fire at a at a vigil
essentially at a raising awareness for the hostages.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Gathering.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
This is it is so evil and everyone I know
you see that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
If you listen to this show as you do, you
know what we stand for.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And you are a person who has and I say
this in all honesty, and this is not even.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
This, This just I think.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Should be said because we should all allow ourselves to
hear it. You are a person of moral clarity, knows
right from wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So it can.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Be be fuddling, It can be confusing. How could anyone
not see right from wrong on these issues. I don't
just mean the terrorists, right, of course, even the most
insane Democrats for the most part, will publicly say, oh,
but you know this is then.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's not right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But let's not let this overshadow the righteousness of the
Palestinian cause. What is the Palestinian cause. They don't want
a state that isn't Israel, so they just want to
continue to exist, to create agitation, strife and bloodshed until
they get their way. Move on. A lot of countries
(20:35):
have a lot of borders that shift over the centuries.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
People move around.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My people were Irish and then they were starving to death,
and then they crossed the ocean.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like things happen.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Really, I know that that seems like a simplification to
some people, but this is just reality.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Israel's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The people that are telling Palestinians, whether they're fellow Palestinians
I know, like Hamas or other you know, Muslim entities
or states.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
In the region.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh don't worry, we'll get rid of those Jews. No,
you won't, it's not gonna happen. Try to lead better lives,
try to build something instead of trying to burn everything down.
But somehow, the righteous cause on campus for the imbeciles
is gaza. We need to make a gaza, a place
that is totalitarian, a place where no one has any
(21:27):
actual rights, a place where the very people who are
protesting in favor of this wouldn't last. Well, it's the
war zone right now, but even before it was a
war zone wouldn't last to day and would be lucky
if they weren't tortured to death and murdered. And yet
they still think that those are the good guys. I
mean this to me would be like protesting in favor
(21:48):
of North Korea.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, North Korea just wants South Korea back.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
What's the problem, Well, you know it's so what if
they're gonna have to shell soul and they're gonna have
to kill a few million South Koreans. The reunific cation
of of the Korean Peninsula is North Korean's destiny, and
I stent you would know that's a crazy person, right.
North Korea is an evil state, an evil regime to
its own people and to everyone else. Gaza is an
(22:15):
evil regime. Rather, the Hamas regime of Gaza is evil.
These are bad people. They have chosen the path of
darkness and they and they inflicted that darkness on Israel.
And now there is a response. I don't know why
this is so hard for some Americans in particular, to
(22:35):
get through their heads.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
But but it is.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And they sit here and they say, oh, you know,
you're you don't understand. You know, it's it's the it's
it's not my I don't have a problem with Jews.
They say, I don't like the way they're fighting in Gaza.
Oh yeah, all the all the tacticians, all the real
frontline military minds that have a problem with what the
Israelis are doing in Gaza. Sure, it's just you know,
they just wish it was a little bit different. And
(23:00):
I remember, I remember when they were saying there should
be a ceasefire days after the attack of October seventh,
a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Now, if somebody was calling.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
For a ceasefire forty eight hours after Pearl Harbor, I
think it would be pretty clear that they don't want
to see the best for America, Right.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I think we would all.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Know that, Hey, hold on a second, maybe Japan, you know,
just to just wants to work it out.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, they got a little bit, you know, a little
bit too feisty there with you know, killing a few
thousand Americans and bombing US.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But you know, they've had a tough go.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You would know that person's insane. You would know that
they actually just hate America. And yet the people that
were calling for a ceasefire are the same people that
have been marching on campuses for Palace. Then same people
going in the media is saying, oh, this is an
evil war in a genocide.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
They were calling for a ceasefire right away. Cease fire.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If someone walked up to me in a bar and
punched me in a fit in the face as hard
as they could, and I was, you know, gearing up
to give them a nice shot, and they said, hold on,
cease fire. Do I think that they're acting in good faith?
We know that they're not acting in good faith when
it comes to Israel. We can all see it. Scott
Jennings Over at CNN, there's a dynamic duo over at
(24:18):
CNN of Scott Jennings and sher Michael Singleton. Sher Michael's
a friend of mine. We'll have him on the show soon.
We've had Scott on the show. Sure, Michael does great
work over at CNN. But Scott Jennings, I'll give you
one for me to the dynamic duo here at ciend.
They're the only thing worth watching now at CNN. I
know Sermy saying, Buck, why do you watch CNN? I don't,
but I see the Scott Jennings and Shermichael Singleton clips.
(24:42):
It's funny. They're the only thing worth watching there. And
yet you think they'll get a show. Do you think
that they would do like the Scott and Shermichael show
by that'd be a great show, it'd be real, right,
and but they could fight with libs. It doesn't it
doesn't have to be conservative or you know, pro Trump
only right. They could have on all the Democrats they want,
just have one show with somebody who is pro Trump
(25:02):
on that network. They would never do it. They would
never do it. No, they'd rather have an anchor up
there who's like, well, do we really know that men
have I think we need more study before we know
that men have a biological advantage over women in athletics.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We need more study. Oh oh, because.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What about women who were assigned women at birth but
actually have been unassigned it because they say so, ah, okay, yeah,
that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Back to CNN's Scott Jennings. Here, this is what he
says about this. This has cut seven play it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
This is horrific and what more do we need to
see before we realize this Free Palestine movement is nothing
more than a domestic terror organization right now. I mean,
we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago,
we have this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know,
the activities on college campuses now for months and months
and months and months. The rise of anti Semitism in America,
(26:02):
the rise in the number of people who have come
to America who hold anti American views, anti Western views,
and anti Semitic views, and are now willing to act
on it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It is absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Outrageous, and I think as a society we need to
understand we're dealing with domestic terrorism. It's growing more violent
by the day, and if we don't deal with it,
these kinds of things are going to keep happening.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You see, this is I'm going to let you in
on a little secret that the Israeli people know and
Americans who understand the Muslim world know.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Here's the belief.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's out there that the left will will say to you, oh,
it's our fault. And you can see this runs in parallel.
This argument goes side by side America in the Middle East, Israel.
In the Middle East, you'll hear the same version of this,
the same argumentation. Essentially, here's how it goes. If we
(26:59):
just did things differently, if we just left them alone,
meaning the Muslim world. The Middle East really is what
we're talking about here specifically, but the Muslim world more
broadly too, because technical places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, that's not
the Middle East, that's South Asia. But if you look
at the Muslim world, the belief is if we leave
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them alone, everything would be better.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
They'll leave us, they'll leave us alone. History shows you
that that's not true.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That it's not as though if we just did things differently,
and this is really gets to the heart of the
debate here, if we just did things differently, all of
the terrorism bin Laden is or was thank you steal
Team six bin Laden was blowback for US foreign policy.
These people have no idea what they're talking about. They
know nothing about the Hadith sided with the black banners
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of Korusan making their way to Jerusalem to bring about
the end of days. They know nothing about the explicitly
imperial history, meaning empire building history of the Islamic project.
They knew nothing about this they just viewed in a
post Ottoman which really just means twentieth century, a post
Ottoman context of Muslim world and specifically Mideast decline. And
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so we are the oppressors, they are the oppressed. In fact,
the Islamic world was just one giant jihad of ongoing
conquest for centuries for centuries.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Right, So if we're really.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Going to get into this history, we should have some
baseline understanding of what is really going on here.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But you will notice.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That wherever, wherever there has been the expansion of the
Muslim world into the non Muslim world, guess what happens.
Vicious and violent conflict. And this is without exception. Find
me a place. Show me what it looks like in
South Asia when Muslims and Hindus are coming together. Has
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there been tremendous bloodshed? Have there been wars? Of course,
show me this in East Asia. Show me this anywhere.
Certainly the Balkans, Eastern Europe, show me this anywhere. And
there is conflict and there are problems. The notion that
the only problems exist because of us is is just
a self hatred masquerading as some kind of erudite foreign policy.
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It's absurd. It is absurd. And now which you have
to realize, is that some of these countries. You look
at a place like Iran, Why do you think Iran
spends all its time saying that Israel is the little
Satan and we're the great Satan and they have all
this stuff. And yes, I know the Iranian people different
than the Iranian regime. Why does the apparatus in control
of Iran, the theocracy of Iran, spend so much time
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supporting terrorist groups and hating Israel and working against America. Well,
if they weren't doing that, they might have to look
around and say, why does our society suck so much?
Why are we so poor? Why do we have no rights?
Why are we so behind the rest of the world.
Why can't we be competitive? Why can't we create great literature?
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Why can't we create movies anybody wants to watch? Why
aren't we curing diseases? Where are we on ai? How
happy are our people? All of those metrics, And this
isn't just true in Iran, the all of those metrics
in some of these Muslim countries would just be devastating
if people actually spent time thinking about them. But it
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is so much more easy to say, well, you know,
there's there's an Israeli hiding under my bed. He's the
problem America doing things that Isra wants them to do.
That's the problem, I promise you these countries.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, the perfect example is Gaza.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Gaza itself, Israel said, fine, you know what, all of
our settlers and they it was not it was not
a pleasant experience. They had to send in the military,
They had to drag them out of Gaza. Those of
you who actually know the history of the region know
what I'm talking about. They said, fine, Gaza is yours.
And then God, then they spend the next twenty years
building a terror tunnel networks and firing rockets at their neighbors.
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It's their fault. They made choices, they made bad choices.
It is their fault. Now you could say, oh, but
you know laws of war and what do we do,
and it's so horrible and their civilian casualties. Yet war
is a terrible thing. The Israelis try to mitigate the
civilian casualties from the war that they are fighting, but
that does not mean it is not a just war.
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Same way we went to Afghanistan and they were trying
to not just blow up the Pentagon and bring down
the twin Towers. They had many and I worked on
some of them in the CIICTC when they were active plots.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I remember this. They were trying to bring down you know,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Multiple airliners over the Pacific or over the Atlantic, or
they're trying to bring I mean they had plots a plenty,
mass casualty plots still going and still based on al
Qaeda leadership, direct planning. And yeah, did we occasionally bomb
a not even occasionally. I mean we just had to
bomb compounds where we thought the bad guys were and
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were there people who were killed?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And is a terrible yes.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
But the alternative is we don't get to do anything
and we just get to suffer in the terrorists win.
The fighting against terrorism cannot be viewed as the root
cause of terrorism because then you have created a philosophy
of the bad guys win before the fight has even started.
And that is what the American left do does. That
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is what the you know, the the Hamas lovers running
around on campus. That is their fundamental belief. That is
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We'll talk about the the immigration part of this as well,
because remember this guy was in illegal. The terrorist here
was in illegal, and I think it's important to note
that this is just the beginning of US dealing with
the Biden wide open border policy.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
So we will get into some of that.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And we also have some numbers out about where Trump's
where Trump is on the economy, and the Democrats are
freaking out because we're six months in and Trump is
crushing them on all important metrics still, and they kept.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Acting like he's going to mess everything up.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
No. Actually, you know the number one thing I hear
from Trump voters and one just came up to me today.
Guy lives in West Palm, cool British accent by the way,
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come up with me, tap me on the shoulder and they
said they like the show is I asked them, how
do they think things are going with Trump?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
You know what they say, I've voted for this
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is having
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we have much to discuss here. Our friend Ryan Graduski
will also be with us of the Clay Endbuck podcast Network,
talking to him about the latest data from CNN. It
just keeps getting worse for the Libs and the Democrats.
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The numbers increasingly showing that wherever it is that you
pull on any important issue in the country, right now,
Trump is much stronger, is doing much better than the
Democrats anticipated, hoped for and have tried very hard to
from being the overall perception. So we'll get into some
(01:04):
of that more on the immigration and border issue. Tom
Homan just the guy's just an all star, you know.
It's it's so nice to see and this is true
in a number of the senior Trump administration roles. It's
just so nice to have people who know exactly what
they're doing and are totally in line with the Trump agenda,
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and they're making moves every day to that end. So
I just think that it is critical. And on the border,
there may be nothing, maybe no issue that is honestly
more important. I think the border and the economy are
side by side. You know, thanks to Trump, we're not
getting involved in any crazy wars anytime soon. So we
shall dive into that. But I did want to take
(01:49):
a few moments here to update the story we talked
about yesterday about this fire bombing terror attack in Colorado
and what this tells us about not only the kinds
of ideological hatred that are spreading in this country under
(02:14):
this I think often this shield of oh, I'm not
anti Jewish or an anti Semitic, I'm just anti Zionist. Well,
I don't know a lot of Zionists who aren't Jews.
I think the i'm just anti Zionist or even anti
Israel it's doing a lot of work in that sentence.
(02:37):
What is it that they really object to? And, as
I have pointed out to you and I will continue
to do so. There are many places around the world
where there is extreme violence, there is very real oppression,
and there are plenty of ways you could argue we
should put more pressure on or we should do something now,
whether you believe we should or not, as a separate issue,
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but we could theoretically do more.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And yet because it.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Cannot be blamed on the Jewish people, you know the
situation in South Sudan, because it is very tough to
make that about Zionism. These individuals who are so upset
on college campuses and just on streets in cities across America,
they have nothing to.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Say about it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It doesn't even register with them. The realities of Middle
East totalitarianism as it pertains to places like Iran, for example,
that is not a problem that gets protests in the streets.
People who think they care about women's rights on the
left have no issue with Iran, at least no issue.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They're willing to speak about publicly.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But endless issues with Israel and endless issues with Gaza.
And I think we all see what that's all about.
You'll also notice this, and as I've told you before,
this was the first issue of foreign policy that I
ever spent real time on it was going on now
(04:05):
over twenty years. When I first I worked at the
Washington Institute for Neery's Policy. I was an intern for
Clinton's Ambassador Dennis Ross, who was Ambassador Ross was the
negotiator on the Arab Israeli peace accords under the Clinton administration.
Camp David didn't work, but they tried. I also worked
at the Council on Foreign Relations, Council on Form Relations.
(04:28):
You know, they got the Builderbergs, the Illuminati. No Council
on Foreign Relations. I did work there as an intern,
so trust me, I didn't know the secret handshakes or
the secret tunnels or any of that stuff. But I
worked there on the US Middle East Project, which was
also an Arab Israeli peace project initiative. So I started,
as many do my academic background in Middle East studies
(04:49):
on this issue of Israel Palestine, and so I do
have some institutional memory. I do have some recall, not
just of how it is now, but how it has
been the last twenty years. And what you see is
that there are a lot of people who care not
a bit about foreign policy as a general matter, but
they care so much about what's going on with Israel,
(05:14):
and you say, well, why is that? Why is Israel
the place? And you know we say these things rhetorically.
I think we know why, and I think that in
the context of America. First of all, there's a tremendous
amount of anti Jewish feeling throughout the Muslim world. That
is just a reality, that is a truth. You can
even think to the character Borat, I always thought this
(05:37):
was fascinating. Remember Alimber when ali G was another one
of his characters. Sasha Baron Cohen, who is Jewish last
name is Cohen, a common Jewish last name. Sasha Baron
Cohen playing the Alig character, playing Borat, and Borat became
this big famous movie. Kazakhstan is a Muslim country, and
one of the bits that Sasha Baron Cohen would do
(06:00):
was constantly kind of satirizing the just blatant anti Semitism
of the supposed Kazakh Borat. Now he got away with
this because he never got away with that, and you know,
the Left didn't get angry about it because he never
mentioned this was a effectively a Muslim character that he
was playing. But there's a tremendous amount of anti Semitism
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throughout the Muslim world, and no serious person would argue otherwise,
or no person who knows what they're talking about. Now,
there's a lot of anti Semitism in Europe, and clearly
a lot of anti Semitism in America too, but it
is worse in.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The Islamic world by far.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And ask any Jew you know who knows anything about
these regions, and they'll say, yeah, that is certainly the case.
But why is it that this goes to the front
of the line. Why is this so important to the
American left? Was as I've discussed here, as I've laid forward,
and I know Clay has adopted this to his own
thinking as well. This is a white versus brown conflict
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in the minds of the American left. The Israelis are white,
the Palestinians are brown. Therefore, the moral high ground is
set and unchangeable in favor of the brown Palestinians. Whatever
they have to do is justified. They are oppressed.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They are the.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Ones who are suffering any action, including the most heinous
and vicious actions humanly possible or thinkable, which Hamas and
affiliated and assorted terrorist groups on behalf of the Palestinians
comprised of Palestinians have engaged in is inherently justified because
they're so oppressed.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I've said this before.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
If October seventh wouldn't turn people against the Palestinian cause
such as it is, because the cause is not an
independent state. The cause is the eradication of the Jewish state.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
That is the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It is obvious to anyone paying attention who is being honest.
But if that won't turn you against the cause, or
if there won't be criticism from people after that, there
is nothing that will make them critical of this. There
is nothing that will turn them and make them that
the Palestinians perhaps should look inward and take a different approach.
(08:05):
And I think that couldn't be more clear than it
is right now. This is why I remind everyone the
so called Glorious martyrs and the resistance of groups like
Hamas stretching back into the Second Intifada in the early
two thousands was just a series of suicide bombings meant
to bring Israeli life to a halt, to a standstill,
(08:25):
to destroy the daily lives of Israelis, and to murder
as many Israelis women and children as possible. A moral person,
a moral person from any country, from any culture, of
any religion or skin color. A moral person does not
go into a crowded restaurant with a suicide vest on
packed with ball bearings, killing himself and everyone else there
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because they think that somehow this is going to achieve
what exactly revenge a state. No one's even what they want,
because what they want is the manifestation of and the
right to act on deep hatred. And that brings me
to Colorado and this individual Egyptian national came to this
(09:13):
country claiming he wants asylum. Think about that for a moment.
You know, this reminds me of there's something particularly heinous,
and you see this playing out in a number of
different very very you know, well known and well made
movies about World War Two. But it was well known
(09:35):
and some of those who had you know, veteran particularly
a marine and army dads fighting in World War Two,
it was well known that the Japanese, as one of
their tactics, would claim that they were wounded and surrender
and then they would actually have a grenade, and so
they would say, please, please don't kill me, I'm wounded,
(09:56):
I can't fight, and then urgis would go over because
our people were always trying to be humane in the
most inhumane circumstances, and they would go and then they
would be blown up by this person.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And this was common.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You see this in a hole, you see this in
thin red line, you see this in letters from me, Regima.
Somebody who claims asylum in your country is on that
same moral plane. They're saying, please, I need to skip
the line. I'm in a desperate situation. I have to
get away from my home country. My home country is
so awful that if you send me back, I could
(10:31):
be tortured and killed. Please, out of the kindness of
your heart, take me in. This individual, this terrorist in Colorado,
said that he wanted asylum, used our process, use the
goodness of the American people, used our mercy against us
and against our Jewish brothers and sisters in Colorado who
(10:55):
were burned severely.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
In this attack.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And now we even we have more details, we know
this was absolutely not just an act of terror, but
a premeditated and particularly vicious one. It is hard to
think of something that is more awful than intentionally lighting
defenseless people on fire, but that is what Mohammad Suliman,
who disguised himself as a gardener in an orange vest
(11:22):
so he could get as close as possible to these
individuals in Boulder, Colorado. That is what Mohammed Sliman wanted
to do. And he believed his actions just not just then,
but after the fact. He believes, because he has set
it to law enforcement, that this was vengeance for quote
his people, his people, his Egyptian You might say to yourself,
(11:49):
what is he talking about. Oh, okay, you mean Muslim, brown,
non Jews. That's essentially what he means by his people,
or rather the people that he associates with, who hate
the Jewish people. If you do not understand these hatreds
and see how they are, for one side, immovable and
(12:10):
unfortunately central to the society. The hatred of Jews is
central to the people of Gaza. Look at their textbooks,
their whole initiatives. They've been going on for years to
show people what is taught about Jews in the schools
such as there are schools in places like Gaza and
in the West Bank.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And it couldn't be more clear.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Which side of this issue all of us should be on.
And yet you have not just radical fringe elements of
the left. You have the Democrat Party itself sympathetic to
and making room for this virulent anti Semitism. This is
now replaced the kneeling for George Floyd. You have to understand,
(12:53):
this is filling that hole in the soul of all
of these leftists in America who think that we must
always be having some sort of racial reckoning. I know
it isn't reasonable or even logical, but they view the
Israelis fighting Hamas as a racial reckoning of white oppression
(13:17):
against the non white adversary here, and so this is
why they attach themselves to this, they feel. So they
don't know anything about the Balfour Declaration, about the Nakbab,
about nineteen forty eight, about UN Resolution two four to two,
or UN Resolution three three eight, or the nineteen seventy
three war, or the I mean, go down the list.
(13:39):
That they don't know anything about the removal of Israelis
of settlers from Gaza and the destruction of greenhouses and
the destruction of infrastructure and.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
All that they don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
They don't All they know is they have been told
the Jews, the white people here who are Jews, are
the bad people, and they are obsessed with the virtue
signaling of marching around campus proclaiming to care so much
about the oppressed and the dispossessed, and that ideology, unfortunately
(14:14):
also inspires and creates far too much room for maniacs
like this Molotov cocktail throwing murderer or attempted murderer who
thought that lighting defenseless people on fire was people he
had never met before, who had never done anything to him.
(14:35):
And here we are now seeing, once again, just like
we saw in October seventh, there is a side of
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Speaker 3 (16:00):
He is lighting Jewish people on fire who were simply
trying to peacefully pay.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Respect to the hostages in Israel. This absolutely is an
act of targeted terrorism.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
The FBI and the Department of Justice are investigating it
as such, and the President is going to ensure that
this individual is held to the fullest extent of the law.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Now, that is a particularly heinous thing, as we discussed,
I mean to light people on fire. My shooting people
is horrific and it's murderous and right. This guy wanted
to get a gun. He couldn't get a gun because
there are a lot of gun laws that prevent people
in his circumstance from getting them. Doesn't mean you can't
steal them or get them otherwise, of course, But to
light people on fire, to create a homemade flamethrower, to
(16:43):
bring molotov cocktails. This guy, this terrorist, has a wife
and five children.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Think about that. This guy has a wife and five kids.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Apparently he hid all of this from them, that's what
the reporting says. And from the kids. I'm sure he did,
and maybe from the wife too. But what kind of
monster has five children who he is raising, who he
has spent time. You know, I'm a new dad, and
there's so much that you appreciate about life, and there's
(17:17):
so much that makes you think about someone else, something
else is more important in life than you, than your whims,
than your politics.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's one of the most incredible things about.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Being a dad, right or a mom. And you've been
a dad five times over, and you know so little
of life and what is precious and what matters that
you're going to go light elderly Jewish people on fire
because you disapprove of what a different country is doing.
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Speaker 2 (19:08):
Isn't across the country right now?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
The anti Semitism, especially in the aftermath of this awful
terrorist attack.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
As I said, this guy was married, the terrorist here, married.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Five kids and just wanted to go and light a
bunch of Jews on fire at a at a vigil
essentially at a raising awareness for the hostages.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Gathering.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
This is it is so evil and everyone I know
you see that.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
If you listen to this show as you do, you
know what we stand for.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And you are a person who has and I say
this in all honesty, and this is not even.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
This, This just I think.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Should be said because we should all allow ourselves to
hear it. You are a person of moral clarity, knows
right from wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So it can.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Be be fuddling, It can be confusing. How could anyone
not see right from wrong on these issues. I don't
just mean the terrorists, right, of course, even the most
insane Democrats for the most part, will publicly say, oh,
but you know this is then.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's not right.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But let's not let this overshadow the righteousness of the
Palestinian cause. What is the Palestinian cause. They don't want
a state that isn't Israel, so they just want to
continue to exist, to create agitation, strife and bloodshed until
they get their way. Move on. A lot of countries
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have a lot of borders that shift over the centuries.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
People move around.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My people were Irish and then they were starving to death,
and then they crossed the ocean.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Like things happen.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Really, I know that that seems like a simplification to
some people, but this is just reality.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Israel's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The people that are telling Palestinians, whether they're fellow Palestinians
I know, like Hamas or other you know, Muslim entities
or states.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
In the region.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh don't worry, we'll get rid of those Jews. No,
you won't, it's not gonna happen. Try to lead better lives,
try to build something instead of trying to burn everything down.
But somehow, the righteous cause on campus for the imbeciles
is gaza. We need to make a gaza, a place
that is totalitarian, a place where no one has any
(21:27):
actual rights, a place where the very people who are
protesting in favor of this wouldn't last. Well, it's the
war zone right now, but even before it was a
war zone wouldn't last to day and would be lucky
if they weren't tortured to death and murdered. And yet
they still think that those are the good guys. I
mean this to me would be like protesting in favor
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of North Korea.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, North Korea just wants South Korea back.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
What's the problem, Well, you know it's so what if
they're gonna have to shell soul and they're gonna have
to kill a few million South Koreans. The reunific cation
of of the Korean Peninsula is North Korean's destiny, and
I stent you would know that's a crazy person, right.
North Korea is an evil state, an evil regime to
its own people and to everyone else. Gaza is an
(22:15):
evil regime. Rather, the Hamas regime of Gaza is evil.
These are bad people. They have chosen the path of
darkness and they and they inflicted that darkness on Israel.
And now there is a response. I don't know why
this is so hard for some Americans in particular, to
(22:35):
get through their heads.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
But but it is.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And they sit here and they say, oh, you know,
you're you don't understand. You know, it's it's the it's
it's not my I don't have a problem with Jews.
They say, I don't like the way they're fighting in Gaza.
Oh yeah, all the all the tacticians, all the real
frontline military minds that have a problem with what the
Israelis are doing in Gaza. Sure, it's just you know,
they just wish it was a little bit different. And
(23:00):
I remember, I remember when they were saying there should
be a ceasefire days after the attack of October seventh,
a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Now, if somebody was calling.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
For a ceasefire forty eight hours after Pearl Harbor, I
think it would be pretty clear that they don't want
to see the best for America, Right.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I think we would all.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Know that, Hey, hold on a second, maybe Japan, you know,
just to just wants to work it out.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, they got a little bit, you know, a little
bit too feisty there with you know, killing a few
thousand Americans and bombing US.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But you know, they've had a tough go.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You would know that person's insane. You would know that
they actually just hate America. And yet the people that
were calling for a ceasefire are the same people that
have been marching on campuses for Palace. Then same people
going in the media is saying, oh, this is an
evil war in a genocide.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
They were calling for a ceasefire right away. Cease fire.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
If someone walked up to me in a bar and
punched me in a fit in the face as hard
as they could, and I was, you know, gearing up
to give them a nice shot, and they said, hold on,
cease fire. Do I think that they're acting in good faith?
We know that they're not acting in good faith when
it comes to Israel. We can all see it. Scott
Jennings Over at CNN, there's a dynamic duo over at
(24:18):
CNN of Scott Jennings and sher Michael Singleton. Sher Michael's
a friend of mine. We'll have him on the show soon.
We've had Scott on the show. Sure, Michael does great
work over at CNN. But Scott Jennings, I'll give you
one for me to the dynamic duo here at ciend.
They're the only thing worth watching now at CNN. I
know Sermy saying, Buck, why do you watch CNN? I don't,
but I see the Scott Jennings and Shermichael Singleton clips.
(24:42):
It's funny. They're the only thing worth watching there. And
yet you think they'll get a show. Do you think
that they would do like the Scott and Shermichael show
by that'd be a great show, it'd be real, right,
and but they could fight with libs. It doesn't it
doesn't have to be conservative or you know, pro Trump
only right. They could have on all the Democrats they want,
just have one show with somebody who is pro Trump
(25:02):
on that network. They would never do it. They would
never do it. No, they'd rather have an anchor up
there who's like, well, do we really know that men
have I think we need more study before we know
that men have a biological advantage over women in athletics.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We need more study. Oh oh, because.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What about women who were assigned women at birth but
actually have been unassigned it because they say so, ah, okay, yeah,
that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Back to CNN's Scott Jennings. Here, this is what he
says about this. This has cut seven play it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
This is horrific and what more do we need to
see before we realize this Free Palestine movement is nothing
more than a domestic terror organization right now. I mean,
we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago,
we have this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know,
the activities on college campuses now for months and months
and months and months. The rise of anti Semitism in America,
(26:02):
the rise in the number of people who have come
to America who hold anti American views, anti Western views,
and anti Semitic views, and are now willing to act
on it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It is absolutely.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Outrageous, and I think as a society we need to
understand we're dealing with domestic terrorism. It's growing more violent
by the day, and if we don't deal with it,
these kinds of things are going to keep happening.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You see, this is I'm going to let you in
on a little secret that the Israeli people know and
Americans who understand the Muslim world know.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Here's the belief.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's out there that the left will will say to you, oh,
it's our fault. And you can see this runs in parallel.
This argument goes side by side America in the Middle East, Israel.
In the Middle East, you'll hear the same version of this,
the same argumentation. Essentially, here's how it goes. If we
(26:59):
just did things differently, if we just left them alone,
meaning the Muslim world. The Middle East really is what
we're talking about here specifically, but the Muslim world more
broadly too, because technical places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, that's not
the Middle East, that's South Asia. But if you look
at the Muslim world, the belief is if we leave
(27:20):
them alone, everything would be better.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
They'll leave us, they'll leave us alone. History shows you
that that's not true.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That it's not as though if we just did things differently,
and this is really gets to the heart of the
debate here, if we just did things differently, all of
the terrorism bin Laden is or was thank you steal
Team six bin Laden was blowback for US foreign policy.
These people have no idea what they're talking about. They
know nothing about the Hadith sided with the black banners
(27:51):
of Korusan making their way to Jerusalem to bring about
the end of days. They know nothing about the explicitly
imperial history, meaning empire building history of the Islamic project.
They knew nothing about this they just viewed in a
post Ottoman which really just means twentieth century, a post
Ottoman context of Muslim world and specifically Mideast decline. And
(28:16):
so we are the oppressors, they are the oppressed. In fact,
the Islamic world was just one giant jihad of ongoing
conquest for centuries for centuries.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Right, So if we're really.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Going to get into this history, we should have some
baseline understanding of what is really going on here.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
But you will notice.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That wherever, wherever there has been the expansion of the
Muslim world into the non Muslim world, guess what happens.
Vicious and violent conflict. And this is without exception. Find
me a place. Show me what it looks like in
South Asia when Muslims and Hindus are coming together. Has
(28:56):
there been tremendous bloodshed? Have there been wars? Of course,
show me this in East Asia. Show me this anywhere.
Certainly the Balkans, Eastern Europe, show me this anywhere. And
there is conflict and there are problems. The notion that
the only problems exist because of us is is just
a self hatred masquerading as some kind of erudite foreign policy.
(29:21):
It's absurd. It is absurd. And now which you have
to realize, is that some of these countries. You look
at a place like Iran, Why do you think Iran
spends all its time saying that Israel is the little
Satan and we're the great Satan and they have all
this stuff. And yes, I know the Iranian people different
than the Iranian regime. Why does the apparatus in control
of Iran, the theocracy of Iran, spend so much time
(29:44):
supporting terrorist groups and hating Israel and working against America. Well,
if they weren't doing that, they might have to look
around and say, why does our society suck so much?
Why are we so poor? Why do we have no rights?
Why are we so behind the rest of the world.
Why can't we be competitive? Why can't we create great literature?
(30:04):
Why can't we create movies anybody wants to watch? Why
aren't we curing diseases? Where are we on ai? How
happy are our people? All of those metrics, And this
isn't just true in Iran, the all of those metrics
in some of these Muslim countries would just be devastating
if people actually spent time thinking about them. But it
(30:26):
is so much more easy to say, well, you know,
there's there's an Israeli hiding under my bed. He's the
problem America doing things that Isra wants them to do.
That's the problem, I promise you these countries.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, the perfect example is Gaza.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Gaza itself, Israel said, fine, you know what, all of
our settlers and they it was not it was not
a pleasant experience. They had to send in the military,
They had to drag them out of Gaza. Those of
you who actually know the history of the region know
what I'm talking about. They said, fine, Gaza is yours.
And then God, then they spend the next twenty years
building a terror tunnel networks and firing rockets at their neighbors.
(31:06):
It's their fault. They made choices, they made bad choices.
It is their fault. Now you could say, oh, but
you know laws of war and what do we do,
and it's so horrible and their civilian casualties. Yet war
is a terrible thing. The Israelis try to mitigate the
civilian casualties from the war that they are fighting, but
that does not mean it is not a just war.
(31:27):
Same way we went to Afghanistan and they were trying
to not just blow up the Pentagon and bring down
the twin Towers. They had many and I worked on
some of them in the CIICTC when they were active plots.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I remember this. They were trying to bring down you know,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Multiple airliners over the Pacific or over the Atlantic, or
they're trying to bring I mean they had plots a plenty,
mass casualty plots still going and still based on al
Qaeda leadership, direct planning. And yeah, did we occasionally bomb
a not even occasionally. I mean we just had to
bomb compounds where we thought the bad guys were and
(32:03):
were there people who were killed?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And is a terrible yes.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
But the alternative is we don't get to do anything
and we just get to suffer in the terrorists win.
The fighting against terrorism cannot be viewed as the root
cause of terrorism because then you have created a philosophy
of the bad guys win before the fight has even started.
And that is what the American left do does. That
(32:26):
is what the blame America first group does, and that
is what the you know, the the Hamas lovers running
around on campus. That is their fundamental belief. That is
what actually unites all of them two two eight two
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We'll talk about the the immigration part of this as well,
because remember this guy was in illegal. The terrorist here
was in illegal, and I think it's important to note
that this is just the beginning of US dealing with
the Biden wide open border policy.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
So we will get into some of that.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And we also have some numbers out about where Trump's
where Trump is on the economy, and the Democrats are
freaking out because we're six months in and Trump is
crushing them on all important metrics still, and they kept.
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Acting like he's going to mess everything up.
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from Trump voters and one just came up to me today.
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