October 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the final stretch of the 2025 off-year election cycle, with a sharp focus on the high-stakes New York City mayoral race. The hosts analyze the political landscape across key battlegrounds including Virginia and New Jersey, but the spotlight remains on NYC, where Democratic Socialist candidate Zohran Mamdani is leading a controversial campaign. Curtis Sliwa, the Republican contender, is scheduled to join the show in Hour 2 to make his case, while former Governor Andrew Cuomo emerges as a wildcard third-party candidate.
The discussion centers on Mamdani’s radical left-wing ideology, past statements, and perceived dishonesty, particularly regarding claims of Islamophobia post-9/11. Clay and Buck scrutinize Mamdani’s past remarks on policing, prisons, and his alignment with anti-Israel rhetoric, drawing connections to broader progressive movements like Occupy Wall Street and BLM. They argue that Mamdani’s narrative is rooted in victimhood politics and toxic identity-based grievance culture, which they believe is emblematic of the far-left wing of the Democratic Party.
Andrew Cuomo’s recent media appearance is dissected, where he warns that the radical left could destroy the Democratic Party. Despite Cuomo’s criticisms, the hosts express skepticism about his political competence and campaign strategy, noting his reliance on legacy media while Mamdani leverages modern platforms like TikTok to reach younger voters.
The hour also touches on Kamala Harris’s political future, the fallout from Karine Jean-Pierre’s book tour, and the broader implications of leftist ideology on American politics. The hosts emphasize the importance of voter turnout in NYC, predicting a historic surge reminiscent of Rudy Giuliani’s 1993 victory, while expressing concern that Mamdani could win with a plurality despite opposition from both Cuomo and Sliwa.
This episode is packed with election analysis, political commentary, and cultural critique, making it a must-listen for conservative audiences tracking the future of urban leadership, socialism in America, and the ideological battle within the Democratic Party. Tune in to Hour 2 for Curtis Sliwa’s live interview and more insights on the NYC mayoral race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show Play. I Got a fever and
the only prescription is more election analysis here on Play
and Buck. Because election Day just days away. I know
it's an off year, and so we're not laser focused
on this every day for months like we will be
(00:22):
next year. But there are some big contests that are underway,
some important ones, just to recap.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We have a reasonable chance, reasonable in Virginia of maybe
keeping the governor's mansion.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
If a Spamberger is seen for the the milk toast
fraud that she is, we'll see. Then there's also the
New Jersey governor's race with CHITTERRELLI, whom I think is
our best chance actually at an upset and and I
don't want to I don't want to jinx it, but
(01:02):
that I think of the three. And then we have
the fate of my beloved NYC, the Big Apple. I
think America and the world's greatest city in my opinion,
and people who are born there. We have to say
that always in forever, it is a requirement of having
been born and raised in New York City. It does
not matter. There could be nuclear winter in New York,
(01:25):
and I would still think it is the greatest city.
And there kind of was because Bill de Blasio was
the mayor for a number of years and that was
pretty horrific. And then there was COVID and that was
pretty horrific. So let's take a look at what's going
on with the Zoron Mamdani situation. You have really a
contest underway of awful versus really bad versus great, but
(01:51):
long shot, and the long shot is, of course, our
friend Curtis Sliwa, who will be with us later on
our show in one hour, mister Curtis Leer. We have
asked and he has graciously said he will join us
here on the program, and we really do want to
hear him out on why he believes he can win,
(02:14):
why he thinks staying in the race is so important,
and what he thinks of the other two who are
vying for the job of mayor of America's largest city.
Just a couple of other notes, a couple of other
things to put on the menu, so to speak. Kamala Harris.
(02:35):
Not everybody's as confident as Clay that Kamala Harris is
in fact going to be in a good position to
run as a Democrat. There are some people who are
just gonna run.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm not sure what her position is going to be,
but I'm confident she's he thinks he's definitely gonna run.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I see that as well. We shall see. It is
just a question she will not be the nominee that
I don't think Clay and I disagree on at all.
It's a question of what she thinks is better for
her brand. I will say the single best thing that
Kamala Harris has going for the rehabilitation of her Democrat
(03:13):
standing is the Koreean Jean Pierre book tour, which is
a glorious catastrophe. I mean, some of the worst interviews
about a book tour I've ever seen a person give
astonishing Clay that this woman, who is quick to remind
everybody is in fact black and a member of the
(03:35):
LGBTQ community. In fact, she says that I think, more
than anything else about herself on a regular basis, that
she was the White House Press Secretary is staggering in retrospect,
considering the way that she answers questions like wait, what
are you saying? And hold on a second, go back,
(03:56):
what do you mean by that? And the answers never come.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And from the New Yorker, I mean she is she
did an interview with the New Yorker. I think she
probably expected, because she's black and gay, that the New
Yorker would protect her from looking like a moron. And
the rules have at least changed enough that the New
Yorker interviewer, who probably has fifty IQ points on Karine
(04:21):
Jean Pierre, just couldn't even comprehend what her answers were
or make sense of any of them from a logical perspective.
And to your point, Buck, she just kept coming back
to her chosen default line, which is, well, I'm black
and gay, and that identity is both cloak and shield
(04:43):
that she believes protects her from any consequences for anything
she says or does. And sadly, there are a lot
of people, I mean, I would argue to a large
extent that's the foundation of the Democrat Party. There are
white men are evil and if you're black and gay,
you can do no wrong. And Karrie Jean Pierre just
playing what she thinks are the rules of the Democrat
Party and getting blown up by New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We're gonna return to this because Stephen Miller, who is fabulous, fabulous.
Stephen Miller also unsurprisingly has a fabulous spouse, Katie Miller,
who is doing great work out there. She's doing phenomenal
work out there on her podcast. We will get to
what she says as well about the book tour of
(05:26):
the former White House Press secretary. So anyway, but I
will say the best thing Kamala has going for right
now is that her book and book tour compared to
Karine Jean Pierre's book and book tour, this is like
you know, Michelangelo's Cistine Chapel. Okay, I mean it is.
It looks amazing by comparison. We'll get into that now,
(05:47):
Mam Donnie, this is the election that has a lot
of attention all across the country because of the symbols
that are at stake. Here you have, Mam Donnie Takami. Okay,
this guy is a democrat socialist, also known as a socialist,
and if you look at the early communists, they all
refer to themselves as socialists. So we're starting to parse
(06:09):
already here, aren't we. This is a guy who has
said the worst things imaginable about police about prisons, about
running grocery stores, about rent control. I mean, he's just
wrong on everything, but he smiles and he seems pleasant.
He also lies, though, Clay, this is a local NYC
Spanish language station, La Mega nine seven point nine w
(06:36):
s KEY w SkQ FM. Zoran is trying to tell her.
Remember how he said that his aunt couldn't ride the
subway after nine to eleven because of his lowmophobia. Turns
out that's not true, and also she never even wore
a hit job play cut one. Here's how he explains it.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I was at the press conference, yes today. They said,
can you tell us who your aunt is? Who you
were referring to? I said, yes, this is my aunt,
This is my Zera Phet, this is my father's cousin,
and this was her story.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So how can you convince New Yorkers if that is
the type of person that you are, in other words,
that you don't tell the truth.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Well, it's not a lie. My father's cousin is my aunt.
That's how I referred to her growing up, my whole life. Sarah,
and I think to have the takeaway from the New
York Post and so many others. After I gave a
speech outside of a mosque for ten minutes about the
Islamophobia we've seen in this race and in our politics
to be the question of whether or not deaf. He
(07:27):
was my aunt.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Clay, and he didn't lie. He just said something that
was untrue, got caught and now wants to move on.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And conveniently is now pointing to someone who's dead that
cannot be tracked down to talk about anything here. And
this is the Norm McDonald joke brought to fruition for
those of you who remember Norm McDonald Saturday Night Live comedian,
among many other jobs that he had when Saturday Night
(07:56):
Live was actually was actually a show worth watching, who
memorably said, when nuclear war happened and basically the population
was wiped out, can you imagine the Islamophobia that might arise?
And you know, if you remember back in nine to eleven,
as you well do, Buck twenty four years ago. Now,
(08:19):
the idea that the story of nine to eleven, within
a quarter century of nine to eleven having happened, would
be mobilized as a story about the unfair treatment of
people who were of the Muslim faith, is I think
a leave aside everything else. I mean, never forget, obviously,
(08:41):
is the message that many people who lived through nine
to eleven continue to reiterate, including our friends at Ton
of the Towers, who I helped to raise money for
just a couple of weeks ago. But for the story
to shift twenty four years later as an argument for
why New York should elect a Muslim mayor to in
(09:01):
the aftermath of nine to eleven there was actually really
unfair treatment of people of this religious faith, regardless of
how the election goes. Buck is incredibly alarming, I think
for the future of New York City.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Look, Mamdani had to create some version of victim status
for himself to be truly worthy of the left wing
adulation that he has. Right, and by the way, the
method by which white Democrats do this is going even
more hardcore on how bad white men are. Right, this
(09:36):
is the That's how you get around it. You go, oh,
my gosh, I'm part of as a white man, I'm
part of the problem. For Mamdani obviously not white. What
he says is, oh, I've suffered the Islamophobia. I've suffered
all this islamophobia, which, as as I've said, is a
nonsense term, an absurd tournament to shut down debate and
discussion and legitimate criticism of factions within a faith that
(09:59):
have engaged in a lot of violence, including the biggest
terrorist attack in the history of the modern world. So yes,
that is something that we should be able to look
at at Clay, It's not also unusual for the left.
I want to focus this back in a Momdani here.
I know you do too in a second, but just
something that as you were talking about this, the horrible
thing happens committed by a group that is ideologically motivated
(10:21):
to do it, and then we're told the real problem
is that group may be targeted. That's not just with Islam,
radical Islam and terrorism. For example, look what happened after
the Comington shooting in Tennessee. When you have these trans
mass murdering school shooters. What do you see all over
Blue Sky and a little bit on Twitter and on MSNBC.
(10:43):
Just think of all the blowback on the trans community.
Now it's no blowback on the trans community. We just
don't want people shooting people. And if there are people
that are being told they should shoot people because there's
terrible stuff that's being done, that's a genocide, that's a lie.
We should address that.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
If twenty people in Clay and Buck gear showed up
and committed a mass murder anywhere in the United States.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I am on the.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Clay and Buck show, and I would be like, maybe
I shouldn't wear Clay and buckyer the next day, Like,
but can we just go to the logic of this,
like if if, if you don't even like this to
the Clay Buck audience, I get it, but I'm saying, random, Ax,
they're going to commit our our hugs and hanging out
and beer and American just kind of run through the logic. Here,
(11:32):
you are Buck, I am Clay. If for people who
don't know, uh, if like we are Clay and Buck.
If a bunch of you in our gear committed a
mass murder, I don't think I would want to wear
a Clay and Buck shirt in the city where the
mass murder happened the next day.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And then my name is Clay. So like the whole
idea of if people.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That you are connected to in any form or fashion
take away the religious aspect in any form or fashion,
like this is like even the argument, oh well, they
were worried that people might well, hey, if people connected
to you in any way have committed the worst terror
(12:14):
atrocity in modern American life. I don't think it's crazy
for you to think to yourself, hey, people might associate me.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
With them and none, but that's rational your your but
left wing victimology dictates that when somebody from the left
or from a group that you genuinely like or whatever,
does a terrible thing, you have to go in the
other direction. You're the real victim. You're the one that
actually needs to be you know, thought of, and people
(12:46):
need to be offering prayers for It's the Norm MacDonald
joke made real, which is imagine if there was a
nuclear attack on New York City. Just think of all
the Islamophobia, right, Yeah, that is Zora Mamdani. That is
left wing booho pour me nonsense. And it's not just Zoron.
It is also tied in to the basic emotional impulses
(13:09):
of socialism, which is always rooted in an authoritarianism of
there's inequality in society. Give me a lot of power
as the socialist, as the people running you know, the
socialist entity, and I will equalize everything. It's a very
bad idea. It never works, It always destroys check out Venezuela, Cuba,
(13:32):
the Soviet Union, just go down the list. I just yes,
all of that is true.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think it's really funny if you take it outside
of religion and just think about whatever group it is
and wearing their gear the next day, you'd be like, yeah,
I don't really think I want to do that. And
that is the cultural touchtone litmus test that Mamdani now
takes twenty four years later as the lesson of nine
(13:58):
to eleven. Feel bad for people who had to live
in New York City in the aftermath of nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Feel way more about this, arong the people who died.
You're thinking about this three layers of analysis deeper than man.
Mamdanni's just like, I'm a victim too, totally. Look what
happened in my family, right, I mean he doesn't even,
but you're going to the actual reality, the truth of this.
He doesn't even. It doesn't matter to him. He just
wanted to complain.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The scary thing is buck kids today in college, all
of them were born post nine to eleven, And we
may think it's ridiculous when Mamdannie says, hey, my aunt
was a victim of nine to eleven. She didn't feel
comfortable on public transit in the city. Even if he's
completely lying, some of these moron kids out there who
haven't experienced nine to eleven and don't have any historical knowledge,
(14:45):
which unfortunately is huge majorities of the American population school
children wise, they look around and they think to themselves, well,
that was really bad because of this toxic empathy. He
knows what he's doing. He's trying to change the history
and the narrative and make correct his side the victims.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Things are gonna get spicy here in the next hour.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
In about forty minutes from now, we're going to talk
with Curtis Sliwa and Buck. We've been talking about the
overall election in New York City in particular, turnout is skyrocketing.
So I mentioned this yesterday. This may be the largest
turnout in a New York City election since nineteen ninety
(17:03):
three when Rudy Giuliani won. The prediction markets have had
a bit of a surge in the direction of Andrew Cuomo.
When we come back. Andrew Cuomo was on with Maria
Bartiromo this morning on Fox Business and really took a
two by four to the left of the Democrat Party.
(17:23):
And we will play all of that for you when
we come back, because again the math out there is
the math, and we'll ask Curtis about this. I think, unfortunately, Buck,
when we get these results come in, there are going
to be more people who vote for Cuomo and for
Sliwa than vote for Mom Donnie. But I think Mom
(17:44):
Donnie is on track to win because he's going to
have the most of three candidates. Would it change if
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back in We're talking about this big race in NYC.
I'm gonna give you our thoughts on this, and remember
Curtis Sliwah, the Republican candidate in this You have a
Democrat Comie is Mom Dannie, and then you got Cuomo
as the independent, really a third party candidate here. And
then you have Curtis Sliwah running as the Republican in
(19:19):
this race. Curtis is going to make his case. Many
of you in the New York area have been saying, hey, guys,
you gotta have Curtis on. Of course, we're gonna have
Curtis on, and we have tried to have Cuomo on.
He is dodging and weaving and stalling, kind of like
his campaign. Yeah, not really taking anything all that. Seriously,
(19:41):
Cuomo turns out not very good at politics. That's that's
a thing that can happen when you've only gotten where
you are because people know your last name because daddy
was the governor for a long time. So this is
what we have seen with him. But let's dive in,
mister Clay to more of this U more of this
Mamdani stuff out there. I don't know which is the
(20:05):
worst one of these two. So let me start with this.
These are flashbacks. Now, this is twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
I would argue the campaign is saying that Mamdani campaign
is saying, oh, he's evolved. No, Actually, what you saw
with people in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one is
what do they really think? Because when all of a
(20:25):
sudden they felt free to be as radical left and
insane as they want with no not only no consequence,
but it was in their interest to do so, they
let it rip. So they showed you who they really
were in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, whether it
was on COVID or BLM or any of these things.
Clay here is Mamdanni on police and prisons in August
(20:46):
of twenty twenty is before that election that as we oh,
we'll talk about that at another time. This has cut four
play it.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
The way that prisons are set up in our society,
I would argue that they do not work. They do
not make us safer. The instinct is to just take
that person, the source of that harm, the source of
that issue, and then just throw them away, put them
in a cage and throw away the That doesn't address
the reason why that arm was created in the first place.
A lot of times people who create trauma for others
(21:15):
are those who themselves went through trauma earlier in their
own lives. And I bring all of this up to
say that, you know, again, like when we talk about policing,
I don't think the system actually makes us safer. I
think what it does is it just removes problems.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Out of view.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So Clay, when someone has been arrested fifty or one
hundred times, which is not unusual in New York City
for the criminal class. The problem, according to Mamdani, is
us is everybody else is the law abiding people of
New York City. Prisons don't make us safer. This is
why old ladies can't walk down the street in some
(21:51):
cities in America, including some neighborhoods. New York overall is
pretty safe, but some neighborhoods of New York without getting
some maniac punching them in face.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
How much of this and we've got other cuts that
I think we need to play too. So prisons don't
make us safer. We also have This is more detailed,
And this sounds like a lot of sort of I
would say colonialism clap trap that is taught its people
like his dad. But here he says that he got
(22:25):
into politics to fight apartheid from the inside. Let's play
this too. This is Cut three. This is from June
of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I respect that there are many differences of opinion about
the value of electoralism, the value of engaging with the state,
But I do think that as long as the state
has this monopoly on violence, then we have to contest
the state at every which point and every which place,
and there is an opportunity to have our voices heard
within the state. And obviously, by becoming a member of
(22:56):
the state in terms of its political class, you are
compromised because you're legitimizing it in many ways. But I
think if I didn't see the ability for us to
claim victories from the inside, then I wouldn't be doing.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
This, Okay, I mean he is a committed left wing idiologue.
Let's also play cut two. This is June fifth, twenty
twenty one. This is where he says the NYPD and
the IDF.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
If you're wondering, like, how did the world.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Did so many leftists end up in this world where
they're camping on campuses they're protesting, This is the kind
of talk that propels that this is very common on
college campuses.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Cut too, the cruelty of what is happening in Israel
in Palestine, it is a cruelty that is systematized and
does not simply rise and fall when the IDF decides
to kill men, women, children, and families beyond the binary
in Palestine in different moments of spikes. I think of
how the NYPD and the IDF have had a relationship
(24:00):
for many years, a relationship that has meant tactics of
oppression crossing from one country to the other, and that
has meant an increased surveillance and oppression of marginalized people
wherever they may be.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So, I mean, all of this is goblygook university campus talk.
But what's important here Buck and we hit on this yesterday,
and I think it's important for all of you is
to understand that when he says he's disavowing this, everyone
who hears this knows that he is lying when he's
saying he disavows this, because this is not some off
the cuff comment that happened to be made, and it's
(24:37):
not deeply thought. He believes intellectually in the idea that
Israel is in apartheid state, that the NYPD exist as
a colonialist occupier to put their boots on the throats
of minority, and that you must overthrow the systems of
government that exist in the United States in order for
the people to truly be free. That's what he believes.
(25:00):
So you can't suddenly say, oh, I misspoke a few
times back in twenty and twenty one, and you're right.
This was the era when leftist felt the most free
to say what they truly believed because their power was
in ascendants.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And he's mentioning the IDF here, which you might say,
what does that have to do with the the NYPD.
So I was in NYPD Intelligence now Bureau, formerly divisioned,
And yeah, the NYPD has relationships with law enforcement in Israel.
It also has relationships with law enforcement in dozens of
(25:34):
countries all over the world, in the UK, in Australia,
in France, you know, in Japan. Find me a country
that America has a close relationship with, and there's a
pretty good chance the NYPD has some kind of liaison
relationship with that country. Why the IDF, like, or rather
why Israel? Right, we know the answer, but it's just
(25:55):
so it's just so telling that he finds this this
little thing. Oh, because the New York Police Department has
a relationship with law enforcement in Israel, mostly in Tel Aviv.
There's some nefarious thing going on here. And what was
the line he used that when it's the boots of
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the NYPD, the IDF is lacing them up. I mean,
that's really that's like protocols of the Elders of Zion
kind of anti Semitism and anti And this guy is
going to become the mayor of New York City, which
actually has more I think it has more Jewish people
in New York City than Tel Aviv. So that's interesting
that this guy is somehow going to be the mayor
(26:35):
of New York But a lot of Upper West Side
Jewish Americans are going to vote for this guy, Klay,
That's the part that's so crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
And also I would say, if Jews were really running
the country, don't you think they could maybe have a
mayor who doesn't hate them in New York City? I
mean for people, because there's people on the right now
who say, oh, you're owned by Israel, Oh Israel's running everything. Okay,
don't you think if Israel was running everything that they
(27:05):
would pick someone as mayor of New York City who
has Buck just pointed out, has a large Jewish population
that doesn't hate them. And this is honestly where Andrew Cuomo,
who is also an awful candidate. There's all this stuff
out there that Mam Donnie has said that should be
fertile for anyone who is good at politics or running campaigns,
(27:25):
which evidently Andrew Cuomo is not. I think partly it's
that he's still relying on legacy media, because that's how
he has fueled his entire political career, and legacy media
every day becomes less powerful and less popular, and Mom
Donnie has leaned into stupid TikTok videos and doing ads
during The Bachelor and all these things that people in
(27:48):
their twenties and thirties look at and are connected to.
Let's listen to this. This is Cuomo a little bit
earlier today on Fox Business with Maria Bartarn saying the
left wing of the Democrat Party will destroy the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Listen, there's a quiet civil war going on in the
Democratic Party right now. You have an extreme left, radical
left Bernie Sanders AOC Mamdani is just the banner carrier
for that movement versus the mainstream moderate Democrats. They now
call me moderate, They used to call me liberal. Now
(28:26):
I'm a moderate because the whole party shifted, and that's
what this election is about. It is that civil war.
I believe that far left will destroy the Democratic Party.
I believe it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if
that far left becomes dominant.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I think he's one hundred percent right about this book.
The problem is what he is pointing to I think
actually benefits Mamdanni in New York City because I think
a lot of young people are frustrated. And when you
are frustrated, you challenge the consensus, candidates, people in positions
of power, the guys who know how to talk to
(29:07):
all the CEOs you live through this. Occupy Wall Street
is just a form of what Mamdani is basically arguing,
now distilled in a more articulate, front facing version. You
may be able to speak to it. I don't remember
was there ever a really great spokesperson for Occupy Wall Street.
I don't remember one who really kind of captivated the nation.
Mamdanni is in many ways a voice for that anger
(29:30):
that has been percolating in New York City for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well, what was fascinating about Occupy Wall Street was it
was done under the Obama administration. Yeah, and so there
was all this the.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
People in charge, I mean, not Obama, but like the
other people are like really best.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So if it had been a Republican it would have
had a lot more oomph behind it. Yeah, right, But
people have said it was more a meme than a movement.
I think that's probably an accurate description of it. But
it did have a lot of the class warfare stuff
going on, and it was a collective so there was
no individual spokesperson for it. But isn't interesting Occupy Wall
(30:07):
Street and the first iteration of BLM happened on Obama's watch,
which was so it was this game of like, we're
so upset at the people in charge. They're all bought
off by corporate interest, but not Obama. I mean, he's
basically Jesus. I mean, he's incredible, He's a deity. This also,
by the way, with Mom Donnie. I think this is
(30:27):
so important for those of you out there who say, well,
I don't care about what happens in the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't care about what happens in Israel. They are
exporting the same arguments from Israel in the Middle East
to the United States now and This is a story
that I wanted to hit Buck, and I'll mention it
right now. But Mam Donnie's father, we played the cut
yesterday of him saying Abraham Lincoln was Hitler's motivation as
his guide for the Holocaust. Mom Donnie's dad wrote a
(30:55):
book post nine to eleven saying the United States and
al Qaeda were moral equivalents because the US invaded Afghanistan,
which he saw as a similar in nature act as
the attack on the World Trade centers. And you say, okay,
well that's crazy. This is what they have argued that
(31:17):
Israel's response to October seventh, when twelve hundred Jews were killed,
two hundreds of them were captured and held hostage for years,
that Israel was the moral equivalent of Hamas in the
way that they responded. And this argument started with oh yeah, sure,
nine to eleven, al Qaeda flew into American skyscrapers and
(31:41):
killed thousands of people. But America's response to al Qaeda
was in fact the same as al Qaida, And in fact,
the Mamdani's dads of the world, Buck, as you well
know because you saw it happen at your school, argued
that America deserved it because we actually started and provoked
the nine to eleven attack. In their mind based on
(32:01):
things that America had done in the past.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Including of course big friends with Israel, so that that's
always that's always in there, somehow, always a part of it,
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Appreciate all of you.
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Curtis Sliwa is about to join us. All of the
numbers reflect that Mom Donnie is facing a real charge
from Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Curtisly was not going to drop.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Out, but I am afraid that when we wake up
on Wednesday morning, we are going to look at the
total number of votes that have come in, and I'm
gonna tell Curtis this right off the top. When we
join him, when he joins us, I'm going to see
I think that Cuomo and Sliwa got more votes than
(35:26):
Mam Donnie. But this crazy left wing, frankly anti American
is going to be the mayor running the biggest city
in America. Are you also afraid or do you have
more optimism? As we sit here six days out for
what the results are going to be in and people
are already voting uh in New York City, I think.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Mom Donnie's Mom Donnie's gonna win no matter what.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I'm pretty pretty say accepted the outcome.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I think Mom Donni's winning the New York City mayor's race. Yeah,
from everything that I've seen so far, I would love
it if Sleeve would win. But I think part of
it also, I think Cuomo is horrible. I don't know
why everyone thinks Cuomo's gonna be so much better than
Mom Donnie. I think Cuomo is horrible. So I'm a
I'm a little more uh in that in that I
don't think there's some last minute way to make Cuomo
(36:17):
the mayor by Sleeve Wad dropping out, and that that
would be so much better for New York. So I'm
kind of let the chips fall where they may at
this point play. But we'll see no doubt. All right,
when we come back, we will talk with Curtis Slee.
What get your popcorn? He can tee off on me.
I'll make it clear.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I've said, if Curtis Lee what wins I do a
entire week in the Beret that I will open up
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City somewhere where they have sane owners of that sports bar,
and set up a celebration for everybody listening on w
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why he's going to be the next mayor in New
(36:54):
York City
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show Play. I Got a fever and
the only prescription is more election analysis here on Play
and Buck. Because election Day just days away. I know
it's an off year, and so we're not laser focused
on this every day for months like we will be
(00:22):
next year. But there are some big contests that are underway,
some important ones, just to recap.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We have a reasonable chance, reasonable in Virginia of maybe
keeping the governor's mansion.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
If a Spamberger is seen for the the milk toast
fraud that she is, we'll see. Then there's also the
New Jersey governor's race with CHITTERRELLI, whom I think is
our best chance actually at an upset and and I
don't want to I don't want to jinx it, but
(01:02):
that I think of the three. And then we have
the fate of my beloved NYC, the Big Apple. I
think America and the world's greatest city in my opinion,
and people who are born there. We have to say
that always in forever, it is a requirement of having
been born and raised in New York City. It does
not matter. There could be nuclear winter in New York,
(01:25):
and I would still think it is the greatest city.
And there kind of was because Bill de Blasio was
the mayor for a number of years and that was
pretty horrific. And then there was COVID and that was
pretty horrific. So let's take a look at what's going
on with the Zoron Mamdani situation. You have really a
contest underway of awful versus really bad versus great, but
(01:51):
long shot, and the long shot is, of course, our
friend Curtis Sliwa, who will be with us later on
our show in one hour, mister Curtis Leer. We have
asked and he has graciously said he will join us
here on the program, and we really do want to
hear him out on why he believes he can win,
(02:14):
why he thinks staying in the race is so important,
and what he thinks of the other two who are
vying for the job of mayor of America's largest city.
Just a couple of other notes, a couple of other
things to put on the menu, so to speak. Kamala Harris.
(02:35):
Not everybody's as confident as Clay that Kamala Harris is
in fact going to be in a good position to
run as a Democrat. There are some people who are
just gonna run.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm not sure what her position is going to be,
but I'm confident she's he thinks he's definitely gonna run.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I see that as well. We shall see. It is
just a question she will not be the nominee that
I don't think Clay and I disagree on at all.
It's a question of what she thinks is better for
her brand. I will say the single best thing that
Kamala Harris has going for the rehabilitation of her Democrat
(03:13):
standing is the Koreean Jean Pierre book tour, which is
a glorious catastrophe. I mean, some of the worst interviews
about a book tour I've ever seen a person give
astonishing Clay that this woman, who is quick to remind
everybody is in fact black and a member of the
(03:35):
LGBTQ community. In fact, she says that I think, more
than anything else about herself on a regular basis, that
she was the White House Press Secretary is staggering in retrospect,
considering the way that she answers questions like wait, what
are you saying? And hold on a second, go back,
(03:56):
what do you mean by that? And the answers never come.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And from the New Yorker, I mean she is she
did an interview with the New Yorker. I think she
probably expected, because she's black and gay, that the New
Yorker would protect her from looking like a moron. And
the rules have at least changed enough that the New
Yorker interviewer, who probably has fifty IQ points on Karine
(04:21):
Jean Pierre, just couldn't even comprehend what her answers were
or make sense of any of them from a logical perspective.
And to your point, Buck, she just kept coming back
to her chosen default line, which is, well, I'm black
and gay, and that identity is both cloak and shield
(04:43):
that she believes protects her from any consequences for anything
she says or does. And sadly, there are a lot
of people, I mean, I would argue to a large
extent that's the foundation of the Democrat Party. There are
white men are evil and if you're black and gay,
you can do no wrong. And Karrie Jean Pierre just
playing what she thinks are the rules of the Democrat
Party and getting blown up by New Yorker.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We're gonna return to this because Stephen Miller, who is fabulous, fabulous.
Stephen Miller also unsurprisingly has a fabulous spouse, Katie Miller,
who is doing great work out there. She's doing phenomenal
work out there on her podcast. We will get to
what she says as well about the book tour of
(05:26):
the former White House Press secretary. So anyway, but I
will say the best thing Kamala has going for right
now is that her book and book tour compared to
Karine Jean Pierre's book and book tour, this is like
you know, Michelangelo's Cistine Chapel. Okay, I mean it is.
It looks amazing by comparison. We'll get into that now,
(05:47):
Mam Donnie, this is the election that has a lot
of attention all across the country because of the symbols
that are at stake. Here you have, Mam Donnie Takami. Okay,
this guy is a democrat socialist, also known as a socialist,
and if you look at the early communists, they all
refer to themselves as socialists. So we're starting to parse
(06:09):
already here, aren't we. This is a guy who has
said the worst things imaginable about police about prisons, about
running grocery stores, about rent control. I mean, he's just
wrong on everything, but he smiles and he seems pleasant.
He also lies, though, Clay, this is a local NYC
Spanish language station, La Mega nine seven point nine w
(06:36):
s KEY w SkQ FM. Zoran is trying to tell her.
Remember how he said that his aunt couldn't ride the
subway after nine to eleven because of his lowmophobia. Turns
out that's not true, and also she never even wore
a hit job play cut one. Here's how he explains it.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I was at the press conference, yes today. They said,
can you tell us who your aunt is? Who you
were referring to? I said, yes, this is my aunt,
This is my Zera Phet, this is my father's cousin,
and this was her story.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So how can you convince New Yorkers if that is
the type of person that you are, in other words,
that you don't tell the truth.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Well, it's not a lie. My father's cousin is my aunt.
That's how I referred to her growing up, my whole life. Sarah,
and I think to have the takeaway from the New
York Post and so many others. After I gave a
speech outside of a mosque for ten minutes about the
Islamophobia we've seen in this race and in our politics
to be the question of whether or not deaf. He
(07:27):
was my aunt.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Clay, and he didn't lie. He just said something that
was untrue, got caught and now wants to move on.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And conveniently is now pointing to someone who's dead that
cannot be tracked down to talk about anything here. And
this is the Norm McDonald joke brought to fruition for
those of you who remember Norm McDonald Saturday Night Live comedian,
among many other jobs that he had when Saturday Night
(07:56):
Live was actually was actually a show worth watching, who
memorably said, when nuclear war happened and basically the population
was wiped out, can you imagine the Islamophobia that might arise?
And you know, if you remember back in nine to eleven,
as you well do, Buck twenty four years ago. Now,
(08:19):
the idea that the story of nine to eleven, within
a quarter century of nine to eleven having happened, would
be mobilized as a story about the unfair treatment of
people who were of the Muslim faith, is I think
a leave aside everything else. I mean, never forget, obviously,
(08:41):
is the message that many people who lived through nine
to eleven continue to reiterate, including our friends at Ton
of the Towers, who I helped to raise money for
just a couple of weeks ago. But for the story
to shift twenty four years later as an argument for
why New York should elect a Muslim mayor to in
(09:01):
the aftermath of nine to eleven there was actually really
unfair treatment of people of this religious faith, regardless of
how the election goes. Buck is incredibly alarming, I think
for the future of New York City.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Look, Mamdani had to create some version of victim status
for himself to be truly worthy of the left wing
adulation that he has. Right, and by the way, the
method by which white Democrats do this is going even
more hardcore on how bad white men are. Right, this
(09:36):
is the That's how you get around it. You go, oh,
my gosh, I'm part of as a white man, I'm
part of the problem. For Mamdani obviously not white. What
he says is, oh, I've suffered the Islamophobia. I've suffered
all this islamophobia, which, as as I've said, is a
nonsense term, an absurd tournament to shut down debate and
discussion and legitimate criticism of factions within a faith that
(09:59):
have engaged in a lot of violence, including the biggest
terrorist attack in the history of the modern world. So yes,
that is something that we should be able to look
at at Clay, It's not also unusual for the left.
I want to focus this back in a Momdani here.
I know you do too in a second, but just
something that as you were talking about this, the horrible
thing happens committed by a group that is ideologically motivated
(10:21):
to do it, and then we're told the real problem
is that group may be targeted. That's not just with Islam,
radical Islam and terrorism. For example, look what happened after
the Comington shooting in Tennessee. When you have these trans
mass murdering school shooters. What do you see all over
Blue Sky and a little bit on Twitter and on MSNBC.
(10:43):
Just think of all the blowback on the trans community.
Now it's no blowback on the trans community. We just
don't want people shooting people. And if there are people
that are being told they should shoot people because there's
terrible stuff that's being done, that's a genocide, that's a lie.
We should address that.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
If twenty people in Clay and Buck gear showed up
and committed a mass murder anywhere in the United States.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I am on the.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Clay and Buck show, and I would be like, maybe
I shouldn't wear Clay and buckyer the next day, Like,
but can we just go to the logic of this,
like if if, if you don't even like this to
the Clay Buck audience, I get it, but I'm saying, random, Ax,
they're going to commit our our hugs and hanging out
and beer and American just kind of run through the logic. Here,
(11:32):
you are Buck, I am Clay. If for people who
don't know, uh, if like we are Clay and Buck.
If a bunch of you in our gear committed a
mass murder, I don't think I would want to wear
a Clay and Buck shirt in the city where the
mass murder happened the next day.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And then my name is Clay. So like the whole
idea of if people.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That you are connected to in any form or fashion
take away the religious aspect in any form or fashion,
like this is like even the argument, oh well, they
were worried that people might well, hey, if people connected
to you in any way have committed the worst terror
(12:14):
atrocity in modern American life. I don't think it's crazy
for you to think to yourself, hey, people might associate me.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
With them and none, but that's rational your your but
left wing victimology dictates that when somebody from the left
or from a group that you genuinely like or whatever,
does a terrible thing, you have to go in the
other direction. You're the real victim. You're the one that
actually needs to be you know, thought of, and people
(12:46):
need to be offering prayers for It's the Norm MacDonald
joke made real, which is imagine if there was a
nuclear attack on New York City. Just think of all
the Islamophobia, right, Yeah, that is Zora Mamdani. That is
left wing booho pour me nonsense. And it's not just Zoron.
It is also tied in to the basic emotional impulses
(13:09):
of socialism, which is always rooted in an authoritarianism of
there's inequality in society. Give me a lot of power
as the socialist, as the people running you know, the
socialist entity, and I will equalize everything. It's a very
bad idea. It never works, It always destroys check out Venezuela, Cuba,
(13:32):
the Soviet Union, just go down the list. I just yes,
all of that is true.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think it's really funny if you take it outside
of religion and just think about whatever group it is
and wearing their gear the next day, you'd be like, yeah,
I don't really think I want to do that. And
that is the cultural touchtone litmus test that Mamdani now
takes twenty four years later as the lesson of nine
(13:58):
to eleven. Feel bad for people who had to live
in New York City in the aftermath of nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Feel way more about this, arong the people who died.
You're thinking about this three layers of analysis deeper than man.
Mamdanni's just like, I'm a victim too, totally. Look what
happened in my family, right, I mean he doesn't even,
but you're going to the actual reality, the truth of this.
He doesn't even. It doesn't matter to him. He just
wanted to complain.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The scary thing is buck kids today in college, all
of them were born post nine to eleven, And we
may think it's ridiculous when Mamdannie says, hey, my aunt
was a victim of nine to eleven. She didn't feel
comfortable on public transit in the city. Even if he's
completely lying, some of these moron kids out there who
haven't experienced nine to eleven and don't have any historical knowledge,
(14:45):
which unfortunately is huge majorities of the American population school
children wise, they look around and they think to themselves, well,
that was really bad because of this toxic empathy. He
knows what he's doing. He's trying to change the history
and the narrative and make correct his side the victims.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Things are gonna get spicy here in the next hour.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
In about forty minutes from now, we're going to talk
with Curtis Sliwa and Buck. We've been talking about the
overall election in New York City in particular, turnout is skyrocketing.
So I mentioned this yesterday. This may be the largest
turnout in a New York City election since nineteen ninety
(17:03):
three when Rudy Giuliani won. The prediction markets have had
a bit of a surge in the direction of Andrew Cuomo.
When we come back. Andrew Cuomo was on with Maria
Bartiromo this morning on Fox Business and really took a
two by four to the left of the Democrat Party.
(17:23):
And we will play all of that for you when
we come back, because again the math out there is
the math, and we'll ask Curtis about this. I think, unfortunately, Buck,
when we get these results come in, there are going
to be more people who vote for Cuomo and for
Sliwa than vote for Mom Donnie. But I think Mom
(17:44):
Donnie is on track to win because he's going to
have the most of three candidates. Would it change if
Sleewa were out. I think Sliwa is going to disagree
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Welcome back in We're talking about this big race in NYC.
I'm gonna give you our thoughts on this, and remember
Curtis Sliwah, the Republican candidate in this You have a
Democrat Comie is Mom Dannie, and then you got Cuomo
as the independent, really a third party candidate here. And
then you have Curtis Sliwah running as the Republican in
(19:19):
this race. Curtis is going to make his case. Many
of you in the New York area have been saying, hey, guys,
you gotta have Curtis on. Of course, we're gonna have
Curtis on, and we have tried to have Cuomo on.
He is dodging and weaving and stalling, kind of like
his campaign. Yeah, not really taking anything all that. Seriously,
(19:41):
Cuomo turns out not very good at politics. That's that's
a thing that can happen when you've only gotten where
you are because people know your last name because daddy
was the governor for a long time. So this is
what we have seen with him. But let's dive in,
mister Clay to more of this U more of this
Mamdani stuff out there. I don't know which is the
(20:05):
worst one of these two. So let me start with this.
These are flashbacks. Now, this is twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
I would argue the campaign is saying that Mamdani campaign
is saying, oh, he's evolved. No, Actually, what you saw
with people in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one is
what do they really think? Because when all of a
(20:25):
sudden they felt free to be as radical left and
insane as they want with no not only no consequence,
but it was in their interest to do so, they
let it rip. So they showed you who they really
were in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, whether it
was on COVID or BLM or any of these things.
Clay here is Mamdanni on police and prisons in August
(20:46):
of twenty twenty is before that election that as we oh,
we'll talk about that at another time. This has cut four
play it.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
The way that prisons are set up in our society,
I would argue that they do not work. They do
not make us safer. The instinct is to just take
that person, the source of that harm, the source of
that issue, and then just throw them away, put them
in a cage and throw away the That doesn't address
the reason why that arm was created in the first place.
A lot of times people who create trauma for others
(21:15):
are those who themselves went through trauma earlier in their
own lives. And I bring all of this up to
say that, you know, again, like when we talk about policing,
I don't think the system actually makes us safer. I
think what it does is it just removes problems.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Out of view.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So Clay, when someone has been arrested fifty or one
hundred times, which is not unusual in New York City
for the criminal class. The problem, according to Mamdani, is
us is everybody else is the law abiding people of
New York City. Prisons don't make us safer. This is
why old ladies can't walk down the street in some
(21:51):
cities in America, including some neighborhoods. New York overall is
pretty safe, but some neighborhoods of New York without getting
some maniac punching them in face.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
How much of this and we've got other cuts that
I think we need to play too. So prisons don't
make us safer. We also have This is more detailed,
And this sounds like a lot of sort of I
would say colonialism clap trap that is taught its people
like his dad. But here he says that he got
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into politics to fight apartheid from the inside. Let's play
this too. This is Cut three. This is from June
of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I respect that there are many differences of opinion about
the value of electoralism, the value of engaging with the state,
But I do think that as long as the state
has this monopoly on violence, then we have to contest
the state at every which point and every which place,
and there is an opportunity to have our voices heard
within the state. And obviously, by becoming a member of
(22:56):
the state in terms of its political class, you are
compromised because you're legitimizing it in many ways. But I
think if I didn't see the ability for us to
claim victories from the inside, then I wouldn't be doing.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
This, Okay, I mean he is a committed left wing idiologue.
Let's also play cut two. This is June fifth, twenty
twenty one. This is where he says the NYPD and
the IDF.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
If you're wondering, like, how did the world.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Did so many leftists end up in this world where
they're camping on campuses they're protesting, This is the kind
of talk that propels that this is very common on
college campuses.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Cut too, the cruelty of what is happening in Israel
in Palestine, it is a cruelty that is systematized and
does not simply rise and fall when the IDF decides
to kill men, women, children, and families beyond the binary
in Palestine in different moments of spikes. I think of
how the NYPD and the IDF have had a relationship
(24:00):
for many years, a relationship that has meant tactics of
oppression crossing from one country to the other, and that
has meant an increased surveillance and oppression of marginalized people
wherever they may be.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So, I mean, all of this is goblygook university campus talk.
But what's important here Buck and we hit on this yesterday,
and I think it's important for all of you is
to understand that when he says he's disavowing this, everyone
who hears this knows that he is lying when he's
saying he disavows this, because this is not some off
the cuff comment that happened to be made, and it's
(24:37):
not deeply thought. He believes intellectually in the idea that
Israel is in apartheid state, that the NYPD exist as
a colonialist occupier to put their boots on the throats
of minority, and that you must overthrow the systems of
government that exist in the United States in order for
the people to truly be free. That's what he believes.
(25:00):
So you can't suddenly say, oh, I misspoke a few
times back in twenty and twenty one, and you're right.
This was the era when leftist felt the most free
to say what they truly believed because their power was
in ascendants.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And he's mentioning the IDF here, which you might say,
what does that have to do with the the NYPD.
So I was in NYPD Intelligence now Bureau, formerly divisioned,
And yeah, the NYPD has relationships with law enforcement in Israel.
It also has relationships with law enforcement in dozens of
(25:34):
countries all over the world, in the UK, in Australia,
in France, you know, in Japan. Find me a country
that America has a close relationship with, and there's a
pretty good chance the NYPD has some kind of liaison
relationship with that country. Why the IDF, like, or rather
why Israel? Right, we know the answer, but it's just
(25:55):
so it's just so telling that he finds this this
little thing. Oh, because the New York Police Department has
a relationship with law enforcement in Israel, mostly in Tel Aviv.
There's some nefarious thing going on here. And what was
the line he used that when it's the boots of
(26:15):
the NYPD, the IDF is lacing them up. I mean,
that's really that's like protocols of the Elders of Zion
kind of anti Semitism and anti And this guy is
going to become the mayor of New York City, which
actually has more I think it has more Jewish people
in New York City than Tel Aviv. So that's interesting
that this guy is somehow going to be the mayor
(26:35):
of New York But a lot of Upper West Side
Jewish Americans are going to vote for this guy, Klay,
That's the part that's so crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
And also I would say, if Jews were really running
the country, don't you think they could maybe have a
mayor who doesn't hate them in New York City? I
mean for people, because there's people on the right now
who say, oh, you're owned by Israel, Oh Israel's running everything. Okay,
don't you think if Israel was running everything that they
(27:05):
would pick someone as mayor of New York City who
has Buck just pointed out, has a large Jewish population
that doesn't hate them. And this is honestly where Andrew Cuomo,
who is also an awful candidate. There's all this stuff
out there that Mam Donnie has said that should be
fertile for anyone who is good at politics or running campaigns,
(27:25):
which evidently Andrew Cuomo is not. I think partly it's
that he's still relying on legacy media, because that's how
he has fueled his entire political career, and legacy media
every day becomes less powerful and less popular, and Mom
Donnie has leaned into stupid TikTok videos and doing ads
during The Bachelor and all these things that people in
(27:48):
their twenties and thirties look at and are connected to.
Let's listen to this. This is Cuomo a little bit
earlier today on Fox Business with Maria Bartarn saying the
left wing of the Democrat Party will destroy the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Listen, there's a quiet civil war going on in the
Democratic Party right now. You have an extreme left, radical
left Bernie Sanders AOC Mamdani is just the banner carrier
for that movement versus the mainstream moderate Democrats. They now
call me moderate, They used to call me liberal. Now
(28:26):
I'm a moderate because the whole party shifted, and that's
what this election is about. It is that civil war.
I believe that far left will destroy the Democratic Party.
I believe it will destroy the Democratic Party nationwide if
that far left becomes dominant.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I think he's one hundred percent right about this book.
The problem is what he is pointing to I think
actually benefits Mamdanni in New York City because I think
a lot of young people are frustrated. And when you
are frustrated, you challenge the consensus, candidates, people in positions
of power, the guys who know how to talk to
(29:07):
all the CEOs you live through this. Occupy Wall Street
is just a form of what Mamdani is basically arguing,
now distilled in a more articulate, front facing version. You
may be able to speak to it. I don't remember
was there ever a really great spokesperson for Occupy Wall Street.
I don't remember one who really kind of captivated the nation.
Mamdanni is in many ways a voice for that anger
(29:30):
that has been percolating in New York City for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Well, what was fascinating about Occupy Wall Street was it
was done under the Obama administration. Yeah, and so there
was all this the.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
People in charge, I mean, not Obama, but like the
other people are like really best.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So if it had been a Republican it would have
had a lot more oomph behind it. Yeah, right, But
people have said it was more a meme than a movement.
I think that's probably an accurate description of it. But
it did have a lot of the class warfare stuff
going on, and it was a collective so there was
no individual spokesperson for it. But isn't interesting Occupy Wall
(30:07):
Street and the first iteration of BLM happened on Obama's watch,
which was so it was this game of like, we're
so upset at the people in charge. They're all bought
off by corporate interest, but not Obama. I mean, he's
basically Jesus. I mean, he's incredible, He's a deity. This also,
by the way, with Mom Donnie. I think this is
(30:27):
so important for those of you out there who say, well,
I don't care about what happens in the Middle East.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't care about what happens in Israel. They are
exporting the same arguments from Israel in the Middle East
to the United States now and This is a story
that I wanted to hit Buck, and I'll mention it
right now. But Mam Donnie's father, we played the cut
yesterday of him saying Abraham Lincoln was Hitler's motivation as
his guide for the Holocaust. Mom Donnie's dad wrote a
(30:55):
book post nine to eleven saying the United States and
al Qaeda were moral equivalents because the US invaded Afghanistan,
which he saw as a similar in nature act as
the attack on the World Trade centers. And you say, okay,
well that's crazy. This is what they have argued that
(31:17):
Israel's response to October seventh, when twelve hundred Jews were killed,
two hundreds of them were captured and held hostage for years,
that Israel was the moral equivalent of Hamas in the
way that they responded. And this argument started with oh yeah, sure,
nine to eleven, al Qaeda flew into American skyscrapers and
(31:41):
killed thousands of people. But America's response to al Qaeda
was in fact the same as al Qaida, And in fact,
the Mamdani's dads of the world, Buck, as you well
know because you saw it happen at your school, argued
that America deserved it because we actually started and provoked
the nine to eleven attack. In their mind based on
(32:01):
things that America had done in the past.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Including of course big friends with Israel, so that that's
always that's always in there, somehow, always a part of it,
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Appreciate all of you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
All right, Buck, I'm spending Saturday as we get ready
for Curtis Leewa. If you want an autograph copy of
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Curtis Sliwa is about to join us. All of the
numbers reflect that Mom Donnie is facing a real charge
from Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Curtisly was not going to drop.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Out, but I am afraid that when we wake up
on Wednesday morning, we are going to look at the
total number of votes that have come in, and I'm
gonna tell Curtis this right off the top. When we
join him, when he joins us, I'm going to see
I think that Cuomo and Sliwa got more votes than
(35:26):
Mam Donnie. But this crazy left wing, frankly anti American
is going to be the mayor running the biggest city
in America. Are you also afraid or do you have
more optimism? As we sit here six days out for
what the results are going to be in and people
are already voting uh in New York City, I think.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Mom Donnie's Mom Donnie's gonna win no matter what.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I'm pretty pretty say accepted the outcome.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I think Mom Donni's winning the New York City mayor's race. Yeah,
from everything that I've seen so far, I would love
it if Sleeve would win. But I think part of
it also, I think Cuomo is horrible. I don't know
why everyone thinks Cuomo's gonna be so much better than
Mom Donnie. I think Cuomo is horrible. So I'm a
I'm a little more uh in that in that I
don't think there's some last minute way to make Cuomo
(36:17):
the mayor by Sleeve Wad dropping out, and that that
would be so much better for New York. So I'm
kind of let the chips fall where they may at
this point play. But we'll see no doubt. All right,
when we come back, we will talk with Curtis Slee.
What get your popcorn? He can tee off on me.
I'll make it clear.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I've said, if Curtis Lee what wins I do a
entire week in the Beret that I will open up
at Bar tab in a sports bar in New York
City somewhere where they have sane owners of that sports bar,
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