August 11, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive into breaking political news as President Donald Trump announces a major federal intervention in Washington, D.C. crime policy. Trump invoked Section 740 of the Home Rule Act, placing the DC Metropolitan Police Department under federal control and deploying the National Guard to restore law and order. This bold move is framed as a response to the surging violent crime rates in the nation’s capital, which the hosts compare unfavorably to global cities like London, Paris, and Mexico City.
Clay and Buck provide detailed analysis of the 2024 DC murder rate, which reached 27.5 per 100,000 residents, nearly triple that of Mexico City and far higher than cities like Bogotá, Lima, and Havana. They argue that Democratic leadership in DC, including the City Council and Mayor Muriel Bowser, has failed to address public safety, and they highlight the political resistance Trump faces despite the urgency of the crisis.
The hour features a compelling interview with Congressman Jim Jordan, who supports Trump’s actions and discusses the legal and legislative implications of federalizing DC law enforcement. Jordan also touches on sports broadcasting blackouts, the SCORE Act, and efforts to protect college athletics and Olympic sports from over-commercialization and regulatory confusion.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. I am back from vacation, play
held it down, and we've got a lot of big
news to talk to you about here.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I will say, Clay.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Some people are saying Highland's North Carolina, beautiful place, beautiful place,
big fan. But I had to spend my morning today
in preparation for the show watching a doozy of a
press conference. I think that's a fair way to describe it.
The biggest takeaway from it, although there are many takeaways,
(00:34):
and we shall describe in some detail for you what's
going on here, but the big, biggest, single takeaway is
that President Trump has decided that he will invoke his
Section seven forty of the Home Rule Act Power for
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the District of Columbia Washington, d C. Which gives the
President of the United States the ability to common deer
the Metro Police Department, which is the local police in Washington,
d C. Because of an emergency situation. We have the
President describing this. Actually, let's let you hear from President
(01:17):
Trump directly on this. It was quite a moment. This
has cut one play under.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The authorities vested in me as the President of the
United States, I'm officially invoking Section seventy forty of the
District of Columbia Home Rule Act, you know what that is,
and placing the DC Metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control.
And you'll be meeting the people that will be directly
involved with that. Very good people, but they're tough and
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they know what's happening, and they've done it before. In addition,
I'm deploying the National Guard to help re establish law
order of public safety in Washington, DC, and they're going
to be allowed to do their job properly.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
This is a big move from the President. I'd say
I really like this and support this, and we'll get
into some of the details of this, Clay, but essentially
the President is saying enough is enough DC, which, as
we are very honest with you, I am fond of
the district, as is Clay. We've both lived there. Clay
went to college there. I lived there as a CIA
(02:27):
analyst way back in the day, and then later on
in life as a media personality for a short while,
so we both spent a lot of time in DC.
The crime situation there is way too high. Let's just
put it that way, Clay. They're running all these stories. Now, oh,
crime is the lowest it is. Don't we all want
there to be no crime in our nation's capital. Shouldn't
(02:50):
this be something where we can get some degree and
we'll get into why there isn't bipartisan agreement.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
There are a number of reasons for.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
This, but there's a whole I think of options and
opportunities here to bring the crime level down to Tokyo levels.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean, that's really what we would like.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
To see instead of We've had fewer carjackings by fifteen
year olds, fewer people shot and murdered in the streets
of our nation's capital for no reason. How about shooting
for none, Clay. How about deciding that we're not going
to allow this madness to continue?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Because you and I are both familiar with it. DC
was always.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
More dangerous when I lived there than post New York City,
post Giuliani. Rather New York City, It wasn't even close.
DC was always a far more rough place to be
starting around the early two thousands.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
This is an example of something that Trump is doing
that should have one hundred percent approval, that Democrats will
automatically hate, and I think It's indicative of why the
Democrat brand is in the toilet, because whether you are
a Democrat, Republican, or an independent, or just somebody who
doesn't vote at all, you should want our nation's capital
to be safe, no matter what your politics are. You
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should want big cities in this country to be safe everywhere.
And I think Trump sees Washington, d C. As a
jewel of the nation. As we talked about last week.
If you look at the rates of murder in DC
compared to virtually every major city in the world, DC
is off the charts unacceptably violent. And you've got Judge
(04:26):
Janine who is in position now as the DC Attorney
of record there. And I think what we are basically
seeing is Trump wants to fix problems that exist everywhere.
And even in that press conference said, hey, we've solved
everything at the border. We are in the process of
(04:47):
resolving many different issues associated with traded balances and economic
issues and everything else. But even in that press conference,
which was a tour to force let's be on honest,
we went from Joe Biden can't even take a question
from the press without it being written out in advance
on a note card for him to as you said, Buck, Yes,
(05:09):
the ostensible purpose of the press conference was to discuss DC.
But Trump took questions on China, He took questions on
Putin and Russia and the situation in Ukraine, basically everything
under the sun, with no preconceived, to my knowledge, knowledge
of where the questions were coming, and he handled them
with a plum.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Right, we'll address that as well.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He talked because, of course, the press asked him about
a big thing on the horizon, the planned meeting in
Alaska of Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump to try to
bring an ant to the Ukraine conflict.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Trump got into some specifics.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
There also some discussion of well Trump's brought up the
transports issue, Clay, basically just to be like, like they are, yeah,
just you guys are nuts. Just to be clear, Democrats,
you're nuts. Trump just threw that in. I appreciate that.
You know, you had to was season the sauce a
little bit, you know, you had to spice it up.
He's like, hey, by the way, you are the lunatics
(06:07):
who think that men shoud play against women in sports.
So not really that into hearing what the Democrats have
to say on any particular issue, but he also talked
about Nvidia with a deal to sell chips to China.
He addressed some of the concerns around that. So to
your point, Clay covered a whole range of issues and also.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Makes jokes and it's funny and the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, it was a trump athon, Okay, it was
a trump bonanza up there. He also had Pete Hegseth
in the mix, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, Judge Janine.
This is very important. Judge Janine is the US Attorney
for the District of Columbia. Because there's the police and
the prosecution components of this that have to get aligned,
and that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But we've all seen I'm sure law and Order, right.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, I remember waking up hungover in college and
I think I would watch sometimes like six hours of
Law and Order in a row on a rainy Saturday.
Law and order is addictive, but it's the It's the police,
you know, the detectives who investigate crimes, and then the
prosecutors who handle them. It's actually a good way to
think about these issues, Clay. The issue isn't just in
DC getting to the arrest and Judge Janede made this
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very clear. It's what happens to the people that do
the very bad thing once the prosecution is supposed to
bring a case against them. And a huge problem they
have in DC is you have these youths. I think
that's how they're generally referred to in the press, people
under eighteen who are doing very adult crimes. And you
(07:36):
know this, this gets into this area of Okay, if
you shot somebody and didn't kill them and you're seventeen,
Judge Janine says that you can get probation for this,
and this is stunning, right, I mean, if if you
don't murder somebody, rape somebody, you know, forcible rape somebody.
There's a few other crimes that she pointed out, you
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can be sixteen or seventeen, and yet essentially is you know,
you give me fourteen or fifteen. By the way, what
the heck is going on when we have a society
that is producing fourteen year olds who are trying to carjack.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
People fourteen year olds? This is that I went DC.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I think it's just there's no dads at homes. I mean,
I think you really get down when you have a
fourteen year old trying to carjack somebody. It's a fundamental
failure of parenting because those kids are so young. That
should never be happening. And I think it's that we've
knocked dads out of so many of these homes. I
bet every fourteen year old in America almost that is
getting arrested for something like carjacking.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
There is no dat at home. I'm almost one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, that's you're going now to even more upstream or
root cause of the problem. And that's obviously true. And
the data on this about and people get very upset
about this, but it is just the truth. We're talking data.
When we talk data and statistics. I don't really care
if people get upset by it. In fact, it's probably
a good thing that people hear data and statistics that
(09:00):
upsets them, because they need to hear it. If they
don't already know it, or they don't already understand the implications,
they need to hear it, which basically means almost every
Democrat that you know, I will say, Clay, I have
I have a close, close friend who, let's just say,
has been very close to the mayor of DC. And
the interesting thing here is that Mayor Bowser would like
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crime to go down and would like to do more.
What prevents her from doing more? Politically speaking, I'm not
saying that, you know, I'm not absolving her here, you know,
but Trump. You'll notice Trump isn't as hard on Bowser
as he is on like a Gavin you know, Gavin
Newscum or you know, the mayor of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, there are there are.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
People who are in positions of authority in this country,
mayors and police commissioners specifically, and city councils who are
just flatly insane. They're pro crime. They're all Democrats. There
are no Republicans who are actively pro crime. There are
Democrats who are actively pro crime. And the problem in
a place like DC is that the city council is insane,
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and there are considerable contingents of the black community in
d C that react very angrily and politically to any
crackdown by police. So what this does is it creates
a situation where President Trump, now by federalizing this issue,
(10:29):
could dramatically bring down the crime rate in our nation's capital.
I said could, but it is possible, and then you
would have Bowser the mayor. Obviously, she's a black woman.
She's the mayor of DC, been mayor for years, is
in a sense insulated from the political blowback among some
members of the black community for the crackdown that will
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make all members of the black community and all DC
residents safer.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This this goes very deep. But this is the problem.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Why is there such pushback because Democrats play this game
and elected Democrats, the City Council plays this game.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Clay people forget this, and.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We can get into a little more of the Home
Rule of nineteen seventy three Act and how to know
how to affect DC. Congress has ultimate responsibility for DC.
There's the Home Rule means that there's the mayor, and
there is a local jurisdictional situation for and you know,
you can vote for the people in charge of your
day to life in DC. But the President Trump actually
(11:29):
has some specific authorities as the president, especially under an
emergency declaration like this. Congress not only can deal with
budgets in the district, Congress can override legislation passed by
the DC City Council. And I would remind everybody that
I forget the year, but it was pretty recent where
Congress stepped in to override the DC City Council making
(11:53):
the punishment for carjacking less. Yeah, too crazy even for Democrats.
So this gives you a sense of what they're dealing
with Clay in the city of well in our capital city.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, and here is the data that I think ultimately
brings this home. Let me hit you with this as
we uh as we go into the first break, and
I would just say, open phone lines. By the way,
we're going to talk with Congressman Jim Jordan at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's got some news.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We'll discuss what he thinks about whether there should be
more control taken over of DC, among other things. But Buck,
we mentioned this last week. The White House just shared this.
I want anyone out there to defend this, regardless of
your politics. Eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two. The twenty twenty four murder rate in Washington,
DC was twenty seven point five per one hundred thousand,
(12:42):
Right residents, listen to these other cities that aren't exactly
known for being wildly safe. Bogata, Columbia. You heard Trump
talking about at fifteen point one, Mexico City ten point six.
So our murder rate is nearly triple what the Mexico
City murder rate is.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Listen to some of these.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Other London's is easy because you can barely measure it
per one hundred thousand, which is what they usually do
per one hundred thousand homicides. Is how you get these numbers.
London's is one, yes, one, But.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean Islamabad do we think, hey, this is gonna
Let's see nine point two, Lima Peru seven point six,
Paris one point six. You heard buck mention that London
is won, Madrid is under one, Delhi in India is
one point five, Havana, Cuba is one point five. Why
(13:38):
would anyone I think this is a sign of how
broken Democrat ideas are. We've got a clip we'll share
it for you eventually of MSNBC coming in, an analyst
coming on and saying, well, this is the evidence of
Trump's racism, that he's trying to crack down on crime
and Washington DC. Their ideas are broken and they don't
want good things to happen if Trump is involved in them,
(13:58):
because that points out they were unable to fix things.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
To one of the initial points you made, Clay, this
is something that everyone reasonably rationally should be behind Democrats won't.
And this is both the right thing to do and
the smart thing to do. The right thing to do
because it'll mean fewer carjackings, fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer
gang stabbings, which will disproportionately, by the way, mean less
(14:26):
of that happening in the black community in DC. I
already gave the stats. We know what the stats are.
Over ninety percent of those who are incarcerated in the
District of Columbia for crimes committed there are black. So
it will disproportionately affect members of the black community who
are law abiding who want to be able to go
on the metro or go to work, or just walk
through the park and not be stabbed or attacked. And
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it's going to be high profile. This is why it's smart.
It's going to be something that even the press is
going to have to cover. They don't want to, but
they will because it is our nation's capital and they
live there. Where does the media live New York and DC?
If this is going on in their backyard, guess what
they're going to have to deal with this And this
can show the failure of Democrat policies on crime and
(15:08):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're going
to be joined by Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio. He's
got some news that he wants to share with us,
and I know we're going to dive into safety in
DC with him as well. Just ran through those numbers
(17:01):
and again, this feels to me like something that should
have a hundred percent approval rating. Let's play this quickly.
Buck mentioned it. Trump just decided to take a drive
by at Democrats want to get We got.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
To come back to it. We got to come back
to in a second.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
So let's but I do think buck on the bigger
picture here, the fact that we have a hundred we
should have one hundred percent approval, and we're going to
play these cuts for you right after Jim Jordan as
we finish up the hour. But the fact that Democrats
are already lining up and saying this is racist of Trump,
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(17:36):
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Code Radio Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio is joining us here.
Wants to chat about some of the biggest things happening
today in this big, beautiful country of ours.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Congressman, great to have you on sick Ay with you guys.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Hope you had a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh, it's fantastic. You ever been Congresmen to highlands North Carolina?
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Yep yeap down in that area. My good buddy Mark Metos,
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm like I'm spreading I'm spreading the word. So Congressman,
let's let's dive right into this. I watched the whole
press conference this morning, which was enthralling, both both very
informative and enthralling. Trump in Fuego. Uh but all this
issue of crime. You know, you got two guys here,
Clay and Buck, who have both lived in d C.
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And I feel very passionately about this. That place should
be a lot safer than it is.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's go time.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, now I agree, and the President is I
think that made the right decision. And I think he's
going to notify Congress because he can do this for
like a month, so thirty days, I think is what
the law says, and then uh then of course has
to be a vote. But I think he's going to
send you know what, his what what he you know,
his justification for why this is necessary, and I certainly
think it is. What what do we capitals around the world.
(19:51):
We have the highest violent crime rate of just about amy,
I believe, and of course we know what's what's happened
in day to day. We even happened to had a
what a member of Congress a while back get their
car taken from him. So I think that's justified. And
then it'll come to Congress, and frankly, I think we
should support the president if he thinks this is something
that needs to go longer than the thirty days.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You Congressman, appreciate you coming on. I just want to
hit this because we talk about how crazy this is
in general, but whatever Trump does, Democrats line up to oppose.
This is the majority leader in the House for the
Democrat Party, Hakeem Jefferies just tweeted violent crime in Washington,
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d C Is at thirty year low. I think that's
very disputable. But let's go ahead and accept Donald Trump
has no basis to take over the local police department
and zero credibility on the issue of law and order
get lost. I mean, even within the construct of craziness
for trump derangement syndrome is being opposed to a lower
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crime rate and Washington d C staggering. To even see
Democrats stand up in favor of.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Now the left doesn't make sense. I always say, not
all Democrats are crazy, but the left that controlled their
party is, and they got all these just wild ideas,
and as you point out, Clay, they're just constantly against
the president that that Trump's arrangement syndrome is truly a
real phenomenon, no doubt about it. But yeah, this you know,
think about all the people who come to our capital
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as tourists, typically during the spring and sorrow spring months
during terry blossom when they're terry blossoms are full of
the number of people who come. They would like to
know that their their capital is safe. And more and
more we're hearing about things happening not only to citizens
but the actual members of Congress that are just wrong.
So you want a safe capital, you want to I
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think everything the President said, you want a beautiful capital,
you want to safe capital. You want people to want
to come to your capital to celebrate the history of
the greatest country in the world. And I think that's
all in play here if we have this level of crime.
So again, I think the President is doing the common
sense thing. He says this all the time. It's the
difference between Republicans and Democrats the day, between conservatives and
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the left is the difference between normal and crazy. And
we're the common sense, normal party. They're now the party
of crazy. Defund the police, let men compete against women
in sports, don't allow violent crime to happen in on
and on and go. So I think this is just
consistent with that common sense theme and a good move.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Speaking of common sense, or maybe the lack thereof congressmen
to the degree that you can speak to this. I'm
not asking to name any of your colleagues in the Congress,
but the Democrats, you know, this is something that does
affect them because they got to walk around and live
in the environs of both Capitol Hill and Washington, d C.
Capitol Hill, sketchy stuff happens around there, Really bad stuff
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happens around there on a far too regular basis. Do
they all privately admit that the capital has got way
too much crime? Or have they deluded themselves into it?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Really?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Is it a thirty year low?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Well, I think what happens buck is I mean, I
just think about you know, the way Polly and I
have a way we handle We don't go, we don't
stray far from the Capitol and if you do, you're
in a car. So it's it's literally there are days
where the most I'm outside is a half a block
from the Cannon House office building. There's three you know,
three office complex to the to the Capitol Hill Club,
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which is the half a block away. Everything else it's
actually either in the building in the tunnel over to
the Capitol. You're just not outside. So we live in
this in somewhat of a I think a bubble where
we may not feel what so many other citizens are feeling,
what tourists are feeling. Now, some people walk a little
farther and they're a little farther out in campus. My
guess is they're a little nervous. Particularly we've got late boats,
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late committee hearings. You're walking home at night. So normally
what we'll do is if we got something like that
and we're going to go somewhere, we're always in a
car and we're getting picked up right outside the garage
or maybe even in the garage. They're at the at
the raver and office building. So I think we live
in a different world. But for the family's coming or
federal employees who are working there, like this young man
worked for Doshan who was attacked, I think that's a
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different story. But that's who we're supposed to be serving,
that's who we're supposed to be protecting, and that's what
President Trump's decision is all about today.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, and we had a young intern I believe from Illinois,
if I'm not mistaken, who was shot and killed on
the street. I know it was a big deal on
Capitol Hill. Now also today your committee, I just came
from the Atlanta Braves. Your committee has sent letters to
the heads of the NHL, NFL, Major League Baseball, and
(24:33):
the NBA going after blackouts on television. But's got brothers
who I better are frustrated by this. I know I
have been supremely frustrated by this, and many sports fans are.
It's getting more expensive and harder to watch. What are
you working on there?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, the whole system now is really complicated for sports fans,
and frankly, it's really expensive if you want to watch
your team play their games. You know, some people want
to buy the package and watch. But this all stems
from the nineteen sixty one Broadcasting Act, which gave an
anti trust exemption to to the major sports leagues. We
understand that, but we're not in just the broadcast world anymore.
(25:12):
We got streaming, we got we got all kinds of things, cable, streaming,
you name it, we have it. And so we're concerned
about how this impacts fans. Who who if Hugh, I
think you tweeted this out a play you want to
watch your team play every game you want to buy
a package, it could cost as much as like a
thousand bucks a year to watch. I remember growing up,
I could watch the Reds every weekend. Any game you
(25:34):
wanted to see. The Reds were on Cincinnati or Dayton television,
you could watch that. That's not always the case today
because of the blackouts and other things that that takes place.
So that's our concern, the how expensive it is, how
complicated it is if you want to watch and then oh, well,
you can watch this game. But if you're you don't
live in the market, the actual network market, You're somewhere else,
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but you still want to watch the team you grew
up watching, and they're blacked out in the city you
now have because they're not sold out or some other
reasons like what is going on? So we just want
to talk to these folks, and it's it's a concern
we have with We've got concerns with college sports. That's
a slightly different thing there. We're trying to work on that.
Americans love sports. They love to watch their team, their
their college, their their pro team. So we just want
(26:15):
to talk with these major league are these these professional
sports leagues and see what's exactly going on?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Are you optimistic by the way that you're going to
get an anti trust bill pass the Score Act. I
think it's called to help and regulate what's going to
happen with college athletics in particular.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Well, it's out of the committee and we have a
we have a handful of Democrats who had co sponsored it.
So I do think we have a real chance to
get this done. And I think we talked you know,
a few weeks back. Our focus when we started this
is we want to maintain real competition. I just have
a few teams with all the money always dominate. We
want real competition. We want to maintain opportunities. So we're
concerned about women's sports and particularly Olympic sports. The USOC
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has been in talk to us about the direction college
sports are at it if we didn't do something, And
we also want to try to remember that we're this
is supposed to be about getting an education as well.
In this current environment, you got people playing seven years
with red shirts and Olympic red shirts and different things,
and making all kinds of money and transferring five times
and never getting a degree. So that's what we're trying
(27:17):
to do. We think that bill is good. We're hopeful
it's going to be on the floor, we get it
past the House and then move on. And we think
our legislation, frankly, is also entirely consistent with the executive
order that President Trump put out. Who's who's also very
concerned about the Olympic movement, Olympic sports and the fact
that we, you know, we got the Olympics coming here
in a few years. To the United States.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Congress and Jim Jordan, appreciate you, sir, Thanks for coming by.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
You bet guys, take care, keep up the good work.
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Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
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show our thanks to Congressman Jim Jordan There All right, Buck,
you were in the mountains. I was telling you during
commercial break that we got into a huge controversy because
(29:38):
people in Colorado on Friday were calling in and ripping
me for saying that you were in the mountains. I
actually had my I was in Atlanta over the weekend,
awesome time watching the Braves play actually against your Miami
area Marlins team, and I had my son looking it
up because all these Colorado people hauled in and we're
(30:01):
just teeing off on me for saying that you were
in the mountains. Did you feel like you were at
in the mountains over your vacation?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I mean I think the highest point is like
six six thousand plus feet. I mean that's I understand
for our wonderful Colorado audience.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's like a foothill for you people.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I get it right, but for Appalachia, it's actually pretty
darn high.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
So not even just for the Appalachian reason. I had
my son look it up. The highest points east of
the basically east of the Rockies in all of America
is the Smoky Mountains. So and we had a geologist
call in who told us that they used to be
twenty thousand feet tall, and they have been over time,
(30:46):
brought down over you know, millions and millions of years.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But these these mountain time people, you know, a little
high falluting with their super tall mountains out west Okay,
it's definitely mountains.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I gotta tell you. Of our guys in gal in
that area, it was it was remarkable to be in
this adorable town. And I really enjoyed it there.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And the people were all so kind, even the ones
who didn't know who we are, who you and I are.
I couldn't walk down the street about somebody stopping me
when saying I love I love the show.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
How's Clay? Where's Clay?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
People talk smack to me about some team you said
something about at some point, I have no idea. Sure,
I'll tell Clay that that team is not as good
as he said but everybody there was incredibly nice. At
one point, Carrie's in laws or rather her sister or
mind laws came to actually visit and join us, and
I said, wow, it's amazing how many people here listened
to Clay and Buck and I swear I finished the
(31:41):
send and someone came up said, can I.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Take a photo? How's Clay? How's the show?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, And one thing I'll say, and this is true.
I'll speak for Clay and myself on this one. If
you listen to this show and you see us out
in real life, it's never a bother. It's never a problem.
If you want to come over and talk like we're
normal people. We love that you listen. Come over, We'll.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Take photos with you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Because people it's very com and people are st pl
like like oh am I interrupting you like nine interrupting.
Please come over and you like the show you listen?
I love that, Please come over and say hi. So
it's never a bother. I will say, though Clay I learned,
I don't know. I mean, you definitely know this. I
was gonna say, I don't know if you know this,
you definitely know this. SEC dads have a uniform.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
This is what I was.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I was unaware of this before SEC Dads, and I
think going forward when I'm an sec DAD country because
really this part of Highlands, it's where Georgia, South Carolina,
and North Carolina all meet.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's like a tri state. Essentially.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Tennessee is not far away either, so there's lots of
people who flee in Chris. So you get you get
people coming in from Tennessee, people driving in from Atlanta,
people all the way from Savannah in the coast, driving
up to the mountains to escape the heat. I mean
it was you get all that going on sec Dad uniform.
You gotta wear the.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Shorts, even when you're going long sleeve because it's little,
it's a little nippy up there in the mountains. You
gotta wear the shorts right, the golf shorts. Then you
gotta wear long sleeve, zip up golf shirt.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
This is what I've learned.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Baseball hat, sunglasses on top of the baseball hat, and
on sneakers. This is sec dad uniform. It's basically golf
It's basically high end golf wear. But you wear it
all day, all the time, everywhere you go.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I've told you about how I lost fifty thousand dollars
in pants before, right, I've told you this story. Yes,
this was me trying to deal with the fact that
sec Dad, that is someone once you age out of
the age at which you might wear a T shirt
or like a you start to wear just the team polo.
(33:41):
But I sold college team colored pants, which was a
brilliant idea way before it's time. And I lost basically
fifty thousand dollars because pants are complicated to sell.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Because I told you this, and we started dizing a
rocket T shirt.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Everybody they lie about what your waist is, but he's
got weird like leg links, and you have two different
measurements that you have to get right, and it's miserable.
So the pants sales business is way more complicated.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I learned it.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Then you might realize T shirts easy, polos easy anything
upper body very easy. But yes, you're right, this is
like the sec Dad starter pack that you're referenced.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I didn't know that on sneakers were such a thing either.
But all these guys coming in from coming in from
Atlanta and and you know, Charleston and Savanna, these places,
they're all wearing these sneakers. Now this is like what
I have those I have that brand sneaker. They're very comfortable.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, so it was anyway, it was great.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I loved it up there in the mountains, and so
many people came up and said Hi. It was funny
people listen to you talking about how I was up
in this area and then saw me the same day.
He's a small town, so if you know somebody's there. Anyway,
we had a great time. All the people there were lovely.
You're also nice to carry and thank you for all
the kind wishes. And I love that area. I'll be
(34:57):
back for sure. So there's that. We have some great talk.
Other things you want to get to or you have
a funny Trump line too. Yeah, we've got a bunch
of stuff from Trump. I called for this earlier. Let's
play it.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
But I do think you're seeing Trump is we'll get
into this a little bit in the next hour. Trump
is a masterclass on getting Democrats to do absolutely insane things.
You're already now seeing democrats. As we told you, they
would line up and say, now, crime's not that bad
in DC. Trump is bad. I mean, this is what
(35:27):
Hakeem Jefferies is doing. But Trump kind of hits it
every time. Here, he is reacting to the fact that
they still support men and women's sports. The entire party
does listen to that cut.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
They want men playing in women's sports. That's what they
want transgender for everybody, everybody transgender. And they've just got
walloped in an election, in a landslide, and they haven't
changed one thing. I saw the other day the certain
gentlemen who were very well known politician Democrat was fighting
like hell that men should be allowed to play in
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women's sports. But they just don't get it. They said
it's an eighty twenty issue, and I think it's a
ninety seven to three issue.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And I don't know who the three are.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I've never heard anybody come nobody's ever come up to me, sir,
you have to let men play in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You have to do it, sir.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Nobody's ever approached me. I don't know where this issue
even comes from.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Never seen anything like Amen Buck.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
When we come back, we'll dive into analyzing this scheduled
meeting on Friday, with putin, what it might mean for
Ukraine and more from the Trump press or on DC violence.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
All next hour
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. I am back from vacation, play
held it down, and we've got a lot of big
news to talk to you about here.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I will say, Clay.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Some people are saying Highland's North Carolina, beautiful place, beautiful place,
big fan. But I had to spend my morning today
in preparation for the show watching a doozy of a
press conference. I think that's a fair way to describe it.
The biggest takeaway from it, although there are many takeaways,
(00:34):
and we shall describe in some detail for you what's
going on here, but the big, biggest, single takeaway is
that President Trump has decided that he will invoke his
Section seven forty of the Home Rule Act Power for
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the District of Columbia Washington, d C. Which gives the
President of the United States the ability to common deer
the Metro Police Department, which is the local police in Washington,
d C. Because of an emergency situation. We have the
President describing this. Actually, let's let you hear from President
(01:17):
Trump directly on this. It was quite a moment. This
has cut one play under.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The authorities vested in me as the President of the
United States, I'm officially invoking Section seventy forty of the
District of Columbia Home Rule Act, you know what that is,
and placing the DC Metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control.
And you'll be meeting the people that will be directly
involved with that. Very good people, but they're tough and
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they know what's happening, and they've done it before. In addition,
I'm deploying the National Guard to help re establish law
order of public safety in Washington, DC, and they're going
to be allowed to do their job properly.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
This is a big move from the President. I'd say
I really like this and support this, and we'll get
into some of the details of this, Clay, but essentially
the President is saying enough is enough DC, which, as
we are very honest with you, I am fond of
the district, as is Clay. We've both lived there. Clay
went to college there. I lived there as a CIA
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analyst way back in the day, and then later on
in life as a media personality for a short while,
so we both spent a lot of time in DC.
The crime situation there is way too high. Let's just
put it that way, Clay. They're running all these stories. Now, oh,
crime is the lowest it is. Don't we all want
there to be no crime in our nation's capital. Shouldn't
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this be something where we can get some degree and
we'll get into why there isn't bipartisan agreement.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
There are a number of reasons for.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
This, but there's a whole I think of options and
opportunities here to bring the crime level down to Tokyo levels.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean, that's really what we would like.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
To see instead of We've had fewer carjackings by fifteen
year olds, fewer people shot and murdered in the streets
of our nation's capital for no reason. How about shooting
for none, Clay. How about deciding that we're not going
to allow this madness to continue?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Because you and I are both familiar with it. DC
was always.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
More dangerous when I lived there than post New York City,
post Giuliani. Rather New York City, It wasn't even close.
DC was always a far more rough place to be
starting around the early two thousands.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
This is an example of something that Trump is doing
that should have one hundred percent approval, that Democrats will
automatically hate, and I think It's indicative of why the
Democrat brand is in the toilet, because whether you are
a Democrat, Republican, or an independent, or just somebody who
doesn't vote at all, you should want our nation's capital
to be safe, no matter what your politics are. You
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should want big cities in this country to be safe everywhere.
And I think Trump sees Washington, d C. As a
jewel of the nation. As we talked about last week.
If you look at the rates of murder in DC
compared to virtually every major city in the world, DC
is off the charts unacceptably violent. And you've got Judge
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Janine who is in position now as the DC Attorney
of record there. And I think what we are basically
seeing is Trump wants to fix problems that exist everywhere.
And even in that press conference said, hey, we've solved
everything at the border. We are in the process of
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resolving many different issues associated with traded balances and economic
issues and everything else. But even in that press conference,
which was a tour to force let's be on honest,
we went from Joe Biden can't even take a question
from the press without it being written out in advance
on a note card for him to as you said, Buck, Yes,
(05:09):
the ostensible purpose of the press conference was to discuss DC.
But Trump took questions on China, He took questions on
Putin and Russia and the situation in Ukraine, basically everything
under the sun, with no preconceived, to my knowledge, knowledge
of where the questions were coming, and he handled them
with a plum.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Right, we'll address that as well.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He talked because, of course, the press asked him about
a big thing on the horizon, the planned meeting in
Alaska of Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump to try to
bring an ant to the Ukraine conflict.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Trump got into some specifics.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
There also some discussion of well Trump's brought up the
transports issue, Clay, basically just to be like, like they are, yeah,
just you guys are nuts. Just to be clear, Democrats,
you're nuts. Trump just threw that in. I appreciate that.
You know, you had to was season the sauce a
little bit, you know, you had to spice it up.
He's like, hey, by the way, you are the lunatics
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who think that men shoud play against women in sports.
So not really that into hearing what the Democrats have
to say on any particular issue, but he also talked
about Nvidia with a deal to sell chips to China.
He addressed some of the concerns around that. So to
your point, Clay covered a whole range of issues and also.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Makes jokes and it's funny and the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, it was a trump athon, Okay, it was
a trump bonanza up there. He also had Pete Hegseth
in the mix, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, Judge Janine.
This is very important. Judge Janine is the US Attorney
for the District of Columbia. Because there's the police and
the prosecution components of this that have to get aligned,
and that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
But we've all seen I'm sure law and Order, right.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, I remember waking up hungover in college and
I think I would watch sometimes like six hours of
Law and Order in a row on a rainy Saturday.
Law and order is addictive, but it's the It's the police,
you know, the detectives who investigate crimes, and then the
prosecutors who handle them. It's actually a good way to
think about these issues, Clay. The issue isn't just in
DC getting to the arrest and Judge Janede made this
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very clear. It's what happens to the people that do
the very bad thing once the prosecution is supposed to
bring a case against them. And a huge problem they
have in DC is you have these youths. I think
that's how they're generally referred to in the press, people
under eighteen who are doing very adult crimes. And you
(07:36):
know this, this gets into this area of Okay, if
you shot somebody and didn't kill them and you're seventeen,
Judge Janine says that you can get probation for this,
and this is stunning, right, I mean, if if you
don't murder somebody, rape somebody, you know, forcible rape somebody.
There's a few other crimes that she pointed out, you
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can be sixteen or seventeen, and yet essentially is you know,
you give me fourteen or fifteen. By the way, what
the heck is going on when we have a society
that is producing fourteen year olds who are trying to carjack.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
People fourteen year olds? This is that I went DC.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I think it's just there's no dads at homes. I mean,
I think you really get down when you have a
fourteen year old trying to carjack somebody. It's a fundamental
failure of parenting because those kids are so young. That
should never be happening. And I think it's that we've
knocked dads out of so many of these homes. I
bet every fourteen year old in America almost that is
getting arrested for something like carjacking.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
There is no dat at home. I'm almost one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, that's you're going now to even more upstream or
root cause of the problem. And that's obviously true. And
the data on this about and people get very upset
about this, but it is just the truth. We're talking data.
When we talk data and statistics. I don't really care
if people get upset by it. In fact, it's probably
a good thing that people hear data and statistics that
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upsets them, because they need to hear it. If they
don't already know it, or they don't already understand the implications,
they need to hear it, which basically means almost every
Democrat that you know, I will say, Clay, I have
I have a close, close friend who, let's just say,
has been very close to the mayor of DC. And
the interesting thing here is that Mayor Bowser would like
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crime to go down and would like to do more.
What prevents her from doing more? Politically speaking, I'm not
saying that, you know, I'm not absolving her here, you know,
but Trump. You'll notice Trump isn't as hard on Bowser
as he is on like a Gavin you know, Gavin
Newscum or you know, the mayor of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean, there are there are.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
People who are in positions of authority in this country,
mayors and police commissioners specifically, and city councils who are
just flatly insane. They're pro crime. They're all Democrats. There
are no Republicans who are actively pro crime. There are
Democrats who are actively pro crime. And the problem in
a place like DC is that the city council is insane,
(10:08):
and there are considerable contingents of the black community in
d C that react very angrily and politically to any
crackdown by police. So what this does is it creates
a situation where President Trump, now by federalizing this issue,
(10:29):
could dramatically bring down the crime rate in our nation's capital.
I said could, but it is possible, and then you
would have Bowser the mayor. Obviously, she's a black woman.
She's the mayor of DC, been mayor for years, is
in a sense insulated from the political blowback among some
members of the black community for the crackdown that will
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make all members of the black community and all DC
residents safer.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This this goes very deep. But this is the problem.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Why is there such pushback because Democrats play this game
and elected Democrats, the City Council plays this game.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Clay people forget this, and.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We can get into a little more of the Home
Rule of nineteen seventy three Act and how to know
how to affect DC. Congress has ultimate responsibility for DC.
There's the Home Rule means that there's the mayor, and
there is a local jurisdictional situation for and you know,
you can vote for the people in charge of your
day to life in DC. But the President Trump actually
(11:29):
has some specific authorities as the president, especially under an
emergency declaration like this. Congress not only can deal with
budgets in the district, Congress can override legislation passed by
the DC City Council. And I would remind everybody that
I forget the year, but it was pretty recent where
Congress stepped in to override the DC City Council making
(11:53):
the punishment for carjacking less. Yeah, too crazy even for Democrats.
So this gives you a sense of what they're dealing
with Clay in the city of well in our capital city.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, and here is the data that I think ultimately
brings this home. Let me hit you with this as
we uh as we go into the first break, and
I would just say, open phone lines. By the way,
we're going to talk with Congressman Jim Jordan at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's got some news.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We'll discuss what he thinks about whether there should be
more control taken over of DC, among other things. But Buck,
we mentioned this last week. The White House just shared this.
I want anyone out there to defend this, regardless of
your politics. Eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two. The twenty twenty four murder rate in Washington,
DC was twenty seven point five per one hundred thousand,
(12:42):
Right residents, listen to these other cities that aren't exactly
known for being wildly safe. Bogata, Columbia. You heard Trump
talking about at fifteen point one, Mexico City ten point six.
So our murder rate is nearly triple what the Mexico
City murder rate is.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Listen to some of these.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Other London's is easy because you can barely measure it
per one hundred thousand, which is what they usually do
per one hundred thousand homicides. Is how you get these numbers.
London's is one, yes, one, But.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean Islamabad do we think, hey, this is gonna
Let's see nine point two, Lima Peru seven point six,
Paris one point six. You heard buck mention that London
is won, Madrid is under one, Delhi in India is
one point five, Havana, Cuba is one point five. Why
(13:38):
would anyone I think this is a sign of how
broken Democrat ideas are. We've got a clip we'll share
it for you eventually of MSNBC coming in, an analyst
coming on and saying, well, this is the evidence of
Trump's racism, that he's trying to crack down on crime
and Washington DC. Their ideas are broken and they don't
want good things to happen if Trump is involved in them,
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because that points out they were unable to fix things.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
To one of the initial points you made, Clay, this
is something that everyone reasonably rationally should be behind Democrats won't.
And this is both the right thing to do and
the smart thing to do. The right thing to do
because it'll mean fewer carjackings, fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer
gang stabbings, which will disproportionately, by the way, mean less
(14:26):
of that happening in the black community in DC. I
already gave the stats. We know what the stats are.
Over ninety percent of those who are incarcerated in the
District of Columbia for crimes committed there are black. So
it will disproportionately affect members of the black community who
are law abiding who want to be able to go
on the metro or go to work, or just walk
through the park and not be stabbed or attacked. And
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it's going to be high profile. This is why it's smart.
It's going to be something that even the press is
going to have to cover. They don't want to, but
they will because it is our nation's capital and they
live there. Where does the media live New York and DC?
If this is going on in their backyard, guess what
they're going to have to deal with this And this
can show the failure of Democrat policies on crime and
(15:08):
the success of Trump and the Republicans on this issue
in a way that will become unavoidable. I think it's
a really big deal, a big moment. I'm very pleased
to see the president doing it. Let's talk about gold
for a second. Gold is the precious metal that people
have gone for centuries to find to start their fortune
right because we all know that gold is valuable. It
(15:29):
has been valuable for really all of human civilization. Owning
gold is good, it makes sense, and physical gold, the
kind you can hold in your hand, is a smart investment.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're going
to be joined by Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio. He's
got some news that he wants to share with us,
and I know we're going to dive into safety in
DC with him as well. Just ran through those numbers
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and again, this feels to me like something that should
have a hundred percent approval rating. Let's play this quickly.
Buck mentioned it. Trump just decided to take a drive
by at Democrats want to get We got.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
To come back to it. We got to come back
to in a second.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
So let's but I do think buck on the bigger
picture here, the fact that we have a hundred we
should have one hundred percent approval, and we're going to
play these cuts for you right after Jim Jordan as
we finish up the hour. But the fact that Democrats
are already lining up and saying this is racist of Trump,
this is unacceptable. The fact that that's even occurring in
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
Code Radio Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio is joining us here.
Wants to chat about some of the biggest things happening
today in this big, beautiful country of ours.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Congressman, great to have you on sick Ay with you guys.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Hope you had a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh, it's fantastic. You ever been Congresmen to highlands North Carolina?
I highly recommend.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Yep yeap down in that area. My good buddy Mark Metos,
former colleague of ours, great congressman, great keep staff down
in that neck of the woods. So yeah, beautiful down there.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm like I'm spreading I'm spreading the word. So Congressman,
let's let's dive right into this. I watched the whole
press conference this morning, which was enthralling, both both very
informative and enthralling. Trump in Fuego. Uh but all this
issue of crime. You know, you got two guys here,
Clay and Buck, who have both lived in d C.
(19:24):
And I feel very passionately about this. That place should
be a lot safer than it is.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's go time.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, now I agree, and the President is I
think that made the right decision. And I think he's
going to notify Congress because he can do this for
like a month, so thirty days, I think is what
the law says, and then uh then of course has
to be a vote. But I think he's going to
send you know what, his what what he you know,
his justification for why this is necessary, and I certainly
think it is. What what do we capitals around the world.
(19:51):
We have the highest violent crime rate of just about amy,
I believe, and of course we know what's what's happened
in day to day. We even happened to had a
what a member of Congress a while back get their
car taken from him. So I think that's justified. And
then it'll come to Congress, and frankly, I think we
should support the president if he thinks this is something
that needs to go longer than the thirty days.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You Congressman, appreciate you coming on. I just want to
hit this because we talk about how crazy this is
in general, but whatever Trump does, Democrats line up to oppose.
This is the majority leader in the House for the
Democrat Party, Hakeem Jefferies just tweeted violent crime in Washington,
(20:34):
d C Is at thirty year low. I think that's
very disputable. But let's go ahead and accept Donald Trump
has no basis to take over the local police department
and zero credibility on the issue of law and order
get lost. I mean, even within the construct of craziness
for trump derangement syndrome is being opposed to a lower
(20:59):
crime rate and Washington d C staggering. To even see
Democrats stand up in favor of.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Now the left doesn't make sense. I always say, not
all Democrats are crazy, but the left that controlled their
party is, and they got all these just wild ideas,
and as you point out, Clay, they're just constantly against
the president that that Trump's arrangement syndrome is truly a
real phenomenon, no doubt about it. But yeah, this you know,
think about all the people who come to our capital
(21:26):
as tourists, typically during the spring and sorrow spring months
during terry blossom when they're terry blossoms are full of
the number of people who come. They would like to
know that their their capital is safe. And more and
more we're hearing about things happening not only to citizens
but the actual members of Congress that are just wrong.
So you want a safe capital, you want to I
(21:47):
think everything the President said, you want a beautiful capital,
you want to safe capital. You want people to want
to come to your capital to celebrate the history of
the greatest country in the world. And I think that's
all in play here if we have this level of crime.
So again, I think the President is doing the common
sense thing. He says this all the time. It's the
difference between Republicans and Democrats the day, between conservatives and
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the left is the difference between normal and crazy. And
we're the common sense, normal party. They're now the party
of crazy. Defund the police, let men compete against women
in sports, don't allow violent crime to happen in on
and on and go. So I think this is just
consistent with that common sense theme and a good move.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Speaking of common sense, or maybe the lack thereof congressmen
to the degree that you can speak to this. I'm
not asking to name any of your colleagues in the Congress,
but the Democrats, you know, this is something that does
affect them because they got to walk around and live
in the environs of both Capitol Hill and Washington, d C.
Capitol Hill, sketchy stuff happens around there, Really bad stuff
(22:49):
happens around there on a far too regular basis. Do
they all privately admit that the capital has got way
too much crime? Or have they deluded themselves into it?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Really?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Is it a thirty year low?
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Well, I think what happens buck is I mean, I
just think about you know, the way Polly and I
have a way we handle We don't go, we don't
stray far from the Capitol and if you do, you're
in a car. So it's it's literally there are days
where the most I'm outside is a half a block
from the Cannon House office building. There's three you know,
three office complex to the to the Capitol Hill Club,
(23:23):
which is the half a block away. Everything else it's
actually either in the building in the tunnel over to
the Capitol. You're just not outside. So we live in
this in somewhat of a I think a bubble where
we may not feel what so many other citizens are feeling,
what tourists are feeling. Now, some people walk a little
farther and they're a little farther out in campus. My
guess is they're a little nervous. Particularly we've got late boats,
(23:44):
late committee hearings. You're walking home at night. So normally
what we'll do is if we got something like that
and we're going to go somewhere, we're always in a
car and we're getting picked up right outside the garage
or maybe even in the garage. They're at the at
the raver and office building. So I think we live
in a different world. But for the family's coming or
federal employees who are working there, like this young man
worked for Doshan who was attacked, I think that's a
(24:05):
different story. But that's who we're supposed to be serving,
that's who we're supposed to be protecting, and that's what
President Trump's decision is all about today.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, and we had a young intern I believe from Illinois,
if I'm not mistaken, who was shot and killed on
the street. I know it was a big deal on
Capitol Hill. Now also today your committee, I just came
from the Atlanta Braves. Your committee has sent letters to
the heads of the NHL, NFL, Major League Baseball, and
(24:33):
the NBA going after blackouts on television. But's got brothers
who I better are frustrated by this. I know I
have been supremely frustrated by this, and many sports fans are.
It's getting more expensive and harder to watch. What are
you working on there?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, the whole system now is really complicated for sports fans,
and frankly, it's really expensive if you want to watch
your team play their games. You know, some people want
to buy the package and watch. But this all stems
from the nineteen sixty one Broadcasting Act, which gave an
anti trust exemption to to the major sports leagues. We
understand that, but we're not in just the broadcast world anymore.
(25:12):
We got streaming, we got we got all kinds of things, cable, streaming,
you name it, we have it. And so we're concerned
about how this impacts fans. Who who if Hugh, I
think you tweeted this out a play you want to
watch your team play every game you want to buy
a package, it could cost as much as like a
thousand bucks a year to watch. I remember growing up,
I could watch the Reds every weekend. Any game you
(25:34):
wanted to see. The Reds were on Cincinnati or Dayton television,
you could watch that. That's not always the case today
because of the blackouts and other things that that takes place.
So that's our concern, the how expensive it is, how
complicated it is if you want to watch and then oh, well,
you can watch this game. But if you're you don't
live in the market, the actual network market, You're somewhere else,
(25:54):
but you still want to watch the team you grew
up watching, and they're blacked out in the city you
now have because they're not sold out or some other
reasons like what is going on? So we just want
to talk to these folks, and it's it's a concern
we have with We've got concerns with college sports. That's
a slightly different thing there. We're trying to work on that.
Americans love sports. They love to watch their team, their
their college, their their pro team. So we just want
(26:15):
to talk with these major league are these these professional
sports leagues and see what's exactly going on?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Are you optimistic by the way that you're going to
get an anti trust bill pass the Score Act. I
think it's called to help and regulate what's going to
happen with college athletics in particular.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Well, it's out of the committee and we have a
we have a handful of Democrats who had co sponsored it.
So I do think we have a real chance to
get this done. And I think we talked you know,
a few weeks back. Our focus when we started this
is we want to maintain real competition. I just have
a few teams with all the money always dominate. We
want real competition. We want to maintain opportunities. So we're
concerned about women's sports and particularly Olympic sports. The USOC
(26:57):
has been in talk to us about the direction college
sports are at it if we didn't do something, And
we also want to try to remember that we're this
is supposed to be about getting an education as well.
In this current environment, you got people playing seven years
with red shirts and Olympic red shirts and different things,
and making all kinds of money and transferring five times
and never getting a degree. So that's what we're trying
(27:17):
to do. We think that bill is good. We're hopeful
it's going to be on the floor, we get it
past the House and then move on. And we think
our legislation, frankly, is also entirely consistent with the executive
order that President Trump put out. Who's who's also very
concerned about the Olympic movement, Olympic sports and the fact
that we, you know, we got the Olympics coming here
in a few years. To the United States.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Congress and Jim Jordan, appreciate you, sir, Thanks for coming by.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
You bet guys, take care, keep up the good work.
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Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcast. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton
show our thanks to Congressman Jim Jordan There All right, Buck,
you were in the mountains. I was telling you during
commercial break that we got into a huge controversy because
(29:38):
people in Colorado on Friday were calling in and ripping
me for saying that you were in the mountains. I
actually had my I was in Atlanta over the weekend,
awesome time watching the Braves play actually against your Miami
area Marlins team, and I had my son looking it
up because all these Colorado people hauled in and we're
(30:01):
just teeing off on me for saying that you were
in the mountains. Did you feel like you were at
in the mountains over your vacation?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I mean I think the highest point is like
six six thousand plus feet. I mean that's I understand
for our wonderful Colorado audience.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's like a foothill for you people.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I get it right, but for Appalachia, it's actually pretty
darn high.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
So not even just for the Appalachian reason. I had
my son look it up. The highest points east of
the basically east of the Rockies in all of America
is the Smoky Mountains. So and we had a geologist
call in who told us that they used to be
twenty thousand feet tall, and they have been over time,
(30:46):
brought down over you know, millions and millions of years.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But these these mountain time people, you know, a little
high falluting with their super tall mountains out west Okay,
it's definitely mountains.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I gotta tell you. Of our guys in gal in
that area, it was it was remarkable to be in
this adorable town. And I really enjoyed it there.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And the people were all so kind, even the ones
who didn't know who we are, who you and I are.
I couldn't walk down the street about somebody stopping me
when saying I love I love the show.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
How's Clay? Where's Clay?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
People talk smack to me about some team you said
something about at some point, I have no idea. Sure,
I'll tell Clay that that team is not as good
as he said but everybody there was incredibly nice. At
one point, Carrie's in laws or rather her sister or
mind laws came to actually visit and join us, and
I said, wow, it's amazing how many people here listened
to Clay and Buck and I swear I finished the
(31:41):
send and someone came up said, can I.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Take a photo? How's Clay? How's the show?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, And one thing I'll say, and this is true.
I'll speak for Clay and myself on this one. If
you listen to this show and you see us out
in real life, it's never a bother. It's never a problem.
If you want to come over and talk like we're
normal people. We love that you listen. Come over, We'll.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Take photos with you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Because people it's very com and people are st pl
like like oh am I interrupting you like nine interrupting.
Please come over and you like the show you listen?
I love that, Please come over and say hi. So
it's never a bother. I will say, though Clay I learned,
I don't know. I mean, you definitely know this. I
was gonna say, I don't know if you know this,
you definitely know this. SEC dads have a uniform.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
This is what I was.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I was unaware of this before SEC Dads, and I
think going forward when I'm an sec DAD country because
really this part of Highlands, it's where Georgia, South Carolina,
and North Carolina all meet.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's like a tri state. Essentially.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Tennessee is not far away either, so there's lots of
people who flee in Chris. So you get you get
people coming in from Tennessee, people driving in from Atlanta,
people all the way from Savannah in the coast, driving
up to the mountains to escape the heat. I mean
it was you get all that going on sec Dad uniform.
You gotta wear the.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Shorts, even when you're going long sleeve because it's little,
it's a little nippy up there in the mountains. You
gotta wear the shorts right, the golf shorts. Then you
gotta wear long sleeve, zip up golf shirt.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
This is what I've learned.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Baseball hat, sunglasses on top of the baseball hat, and
on sneakers. This is sec dad uniform. It's basically golf
It's basically high end golf wear. But you wear it
all day, all the time, everywhere you go.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I've told you about how I lost fifty thousand dollars
in pants before, right, I've told you this story. Yes,
this was me trying to deal with the fact that
sec Dad, that is someone once you age out of
the age at which you might wear a T shirt
or like a you start to wear just the team polo.
(33:41):
But I sold college team colored pants, which was a
brilliant idea way before it's time. And I lost basically
fifty thousand dollars because pants are complicated to sell.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Because I told you this, and we started dizing a
rocket T shirt.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Everybody they lie about what your waist is, but he's
got weird like leg links, and you have two different
measurements that you have to get right, and it's miserable.
So the pants sales business is way more complicated.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I learned it.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Then you might realize T shirts easy, polos easy anything
upper body very easy. But yes, you're right, this is
like the sec Dad starter pack that you're referenced.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I didn't know that on sneakers were such a thing either.
But all these guys coming in from coming in from
Atlanta and and you know, Charleston and Savanna, these places,
they're all wearing these sneakers. Now this is like what
I have those I have that brand sneaker. They're very comfortable.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, so it was anyway, it was great.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I loved it up there in the mountains, and so
many people came up and said Hi. It was funny
people listen to you talking about how I was up
in this area and then saw me the same day.
He's a small town, so if you know somebody's there. Anyway,
we had a great time. All the people there were lovely.
You're also nice to carry and thank you for all
the kind wishes. And I love that area. I'll be
(34:57):
back for sure. So there's that. We have some great talk.
Other things you want to get to or you have
a funny Trump line too. Yeah, we've got a bunch
of stuff from Trump. I called for this earlier. Let's
play it.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
But I do think you're seeing Trump is we'll get
into this a little bit in the next hour. Trump
is a masterclass on getting Democrats to do absolutely insane things.
You're already now seeing democrats. As we told you, they
would line up and say, now, crime's not that bad
in DC. Trump is bad. I mean, this is what
(35:27):
Hakeem Jefferies is doing. But Trump kind of hits it
every time. Here, he is reacting to the fact that
they still support men and women's sports. The entire party
does listen to that cut.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
They want men playing in women's sports. That's what they
want transgender for everybody, everybody transgender. And they've just got
walloped in an election, in a landslide, and they haven't
changed one thing. I saw the other day the certain
gentlemen who were very well known politician Democrat was fighting
like hell that men should be allowed to play in
(35:59):
women's sports. But they just don't get it. They said
it's an eighty twenty issue, and I think it's a
ninety seven to three issue.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And I don't know who the three are.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I've never heard anybody come nobody's ever come up to me, sir,
you have to let men play in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
You have to do it, sir.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Nobody's ever approached me. I don't know where this issue
even comes from.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Never seen anything like Amen Buck.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
When we come back, we'll dive into analyzing this scheduled
meeting on Friday, with putin, what it might mean for
Ukraine and more from the Trump press or on DC violence.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
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