August 4, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the latest political and economic developments shaping America. The hosts kick off with breaking economic news, highlighting expectations of a Federal Reserve interest rate cut in September and a surging stock market. They emphasize how President Trump’s predictions are proving accurate, reinforcing his economic leadership narrative.
The hour’s central focus is the Texas redistricting showdown, a major political battle with national implications. Democrats are threatening to flee the state to block Republican-led redistricting efforts that could flip five congressional seats. Governor Greg Abbott responds forcefully, warning of felony charges and invoking extradition powers. The hosts dissect the legal and political ramifications, comparing Texas to heavily gerrymandered states like Illinois and New Mexico, where Democrats dominate despite near-even vote splits.
Gerrymandering and electoral strategy dominate the conversation, with Clay and Buck exposing how illegal immigration skews census data and congressional representation, benefiting Democrats by inflating district populations. They argue this practice unfairly shifts political power and discuss how Hispanic voters, especially in border regions, are increasingly supporting Republicans due to dissatisfaction with open-border policies.
Listeners hear reactions from across the country, including a passionate call from Long Island detailing New York’s redistricting manipulation and judicial interference. The hosts underscore how population shifts and redistricting battles will reshape the 2028 and 2032 presidential elections, with red states gaining electoral votes and influence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Appreciate all of.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You hanging out with us as we are rolling into
yet another week with lots of good news pouring in.
There now seems to be expectation that, guess what, Trump
was right, they are going to cut interest rates in September.
Stock market is soaring on those expectations today, moving back
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towards record high levels. So that is the big economic news.
As we move closer and closer to a terraff resolution
with many different countries around the world, also a bunch
of other things going on. We have got Texas redistricting
turning into a monster battle which I am going to
(00:52):
dive into here with you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shortly. Machetes have been banned in.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Australia, which is just aridiculously funny story we'll have some
fun with. And President Trump has weighed in on Sidney
Sweeney and the impact of that ad continues to echo
as also for those of you out there that get
fired up about culture and.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't care and you're like Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Is registered as a Republican in Bucks state of Florida.
I challenge anybody out there, Buck We'll get into this
a little bit, but I can't think of anybody in
his or her twenties that is as famous in Hollywood
as Sidney Sweeney is that has ever been publicly identified
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as a Republican. Now, there are lots of people, because
I've spent a lot of time in LA and what
you always hear in LA is if they never talk
about politics, they're a Republican. And there are lots of
those people out there, many of whom you would be
fans of if you enjoy going to movies, television shows,
streaming service is all those things. So there are lots
of them, they just don't speak out Sidney Sweeney being
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a registered Republican in her twenties. Look, there are guys
like Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzeneger Mel Gibson, a lot of
the stars of nineteen eighties film are Republicans and are
out there publicly, but they're all in their seventies or older.
To have a twenty seven year old Hollywood starlet near
the top of her game being out and out Republican,
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I think is significant culturally. We'll get into that, but
in the meantime, and this is actually very significant, I think,
and we talked about this a little bit last week.
There is a panic setting in inside of the Democrat
Party over the fact that Texas is potentially going to
be redistricting as part of its midterm sort of process.
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This is normal in Texas because the legislature, I believe,
only comes in like every other year. They do not
have a supremely active legislature, and so they're a little
bit behind on some of these things. And by the way,
we'll also update you on the latest. I know many
of you fired up about that attack in Cincinnati, which
has received a great deal of discussion at Peers guy
(03:16):
and a gal, both innocent of doing basically anything wrong,
getting beaten up in Cincinnati, and the reaction to it.
We talked about that with Bernie Marino last week. But
I want to start with this. Democrats buck are saying
that they are going to flee the state to stop
this redistricting from taking place. This is something that I
(03:38):
think they have done before, and it's turned into a
controversy and Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, is having none
of it. He says they will face felony charges if
they refuse to return to the Capitol.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Here's cut ten.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So very simply, it would be bribery if any lawmaker
took money to perform or to refuse to perform and
act in the lets and the reports are these legislators
have been both. They sought money and they offered money
to skip the vote, to leave the legislature to take
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a legislative act. That would be bribery. And so the
facts will have to come out. But I think based
upon comments made by legislators themselves, they face a possibility
facing bribery charges, which is a second degree felony in
the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, I believe the reports are buck that they are
fleeing to Illinois. This has turned into a big deal,
not only in Texas, but other states now saying well,
maybe we'll have to redistrict your.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Thoughts Illinois also known as Midwest California.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And by the way, to Illinois, one of the most
of all jerry mannered states in the nation, to flee
to Illinois. Actually just points out that blue states do
this too.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This is just childish whining from Democrats on this issue.
There's no argument to be made. It is actually not
possible to raise a good faith argument that Democrats don't
do exactly this, which is jerry mander to their political
liking in states where that is lawful and they have control.
So let's not pretend like this is all of us.
(05:20):
It would be like saying, oh, my gosh, do you
see all these people the president is appointing who agree
with the president on policy. Yeah, that's the point. It's
our turn. Now we're in charge in Texas. Deal with it, Libs.
But instead they try to raise really alynskiite sabotage in
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the system that they try to find ways to pretend
like they're in the bathroom the whole time, so they
can't actually let the business of the state House go forward,
or in this case, they're fleeing the state entirely. I'll
also point this out Clay Governor Abbitt when he says
that people are accepting money to do a thing in
the legislature, that sounds like, you know, this isn't this
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isn't like someone explaining a complicated Rico case. And no, no, no.
If someone's giving you money and you're doing something or
not doing something in the legislature because of it, that
is pretty much textbook bribery. So if that is now
he says, we have to see and look at the facts.
But I don't think he would raise that unless there's
some reason to believe that this is what has been
(06:23):
going on with some Democrats in that state. I think
that they maybe have forgotten themselves and forgotten statutory definitions a.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Bit here, but this is it's absurd.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So they're going to try to prevent the business of
the state from occurring as representatives of the state by
just calling in sick to work. I mean, I think
imagine if the Republicans in when we had a minority
in the House of the Senate to this, we'd be
told that this is the end of the of the
Republic as we know it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, and it's just frankly an embarrassment. And so again
I did a lot of deep dive on this because
I'm a little bit of a nerd when it comes
to districting and effectively this question is just a function
of when you start it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And let me explain what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Everybody does this to your point, and so acting like
what Texas is doing is somehow beyond the pale. What
has got democrats nervous is, Look, there's a three seat
majority right now in the House, and if five Republican
seats in theory were added in Texas, that takes it
to eight. It makes it harder for them to take
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back the House, and they don't like Usually the redistricting
happens at the you know, closer to twenty twenty. The
mid decade redistricting is somewhat rare, not necessarily for Texas here,
so there's actually a little bit of a slant towards
Democrats right now in the House because they did better
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in the House than they should have based on how
the national popular vote went. Right in theory, if we
had completely without jerry managering a national popular vote and
assigned congressional seats based on that, then Republicans would have
done a better job in the House in twenty twenty
four than they did one a narrow majority of the
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Republicans did by three. Because Democrats have successfully jerrymandered so
many different states and now they're fired up about Texas.
Let me also point this out. Almost no one talks
about it. We screwed up as a country the census,
and as a result, the electoral votes are all screwed
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up in favor of Democrats right now, and almost no
one will talk about it in twenty thirty when the
new census is done and you also then are able
to take into account all of the relocations to red states.
Democrats are in a tremendous amount of trouble in the
electoral college starting in twenty thirty two, because, for instance,
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Kamala's path she would have won the election two seventy
two sixty eight if she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin,
that would have narrowly gotten her to the two seventy
majority that she needed to get to. That pathway is
not going to exist because red states are going to
be picking up a lot of additional electoral votes, and
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so you can't win the presidency really without being able
to win some of the South, And so we're headed
for No One is talking about it because it's like
nobody can look more than one year in the future
when it comes to politics. But I think part of
this is a little bit of a panic setting in
on the Democrat side that the population bases of places
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like Tennessee, Texas, and Florida are skyrocketing and they're taking
away the electoral votes of much of the Democrat base,
and so this is kind of an early preview of
a little bit of a panic that's setting in where
you're going to have more seats being reassigned to red
states and fewer in blue states. And again, the other
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part of this that gets almost no attention is the
skewing for a legal immigration and that is a big
part of the taking people out of the country that
is hurting overall Democrats. So this story, I think is
a significant one, not only for what Texas does, but
for the mobilization that's going to be able to occur
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in response to Texas. And that is why you are
already hearing people like Corey Booker and Kathy Hokel Let's
play Kathy Hokel more on New Yorker saying, Hey, maybe
we're going to have to do this too, cut twelve.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
But Texas and Republican states are doing it the direction
of Donald Trump, I say, is nothing short of a
legal insurrection against our capital. Legal meaning they're using the
legal process, does not mean it's legal, and it must
be stuffed. The Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules
to give themselves an advantage that they're leaving us no
choice we must do the same. There's a phrase, you
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have to fight fire with fire. That is a true
statement of how we're feeling right now. And as I said,
another overused but applicable phrase, all's fair in love and war.
That's why I'm exploring with our leaders every option to
redraw our state congressional lines as soon as possible.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
What a morenes he is, buck Well, it's but it's
a widespread thing among Democrats now right. She's not the
only one, you know what, Clay, Let's have some fun
with this. Corey Booker, another prominent in this case, New
Jersey Democratic is having too much fun trashing these Northeastern
lives today. But here is Corey Booker of New Jersey
on the mid terms and jerry mandering, Play eleven.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I'm sick of the jerrymandering. But if Donald Trump is
going to push to jerry nander Texas, he's going to
break the rules in order to win. He can't win
by the rules they are right now, so he thinks
you should break the rules for Democrats to sit back
and just say, Okay, we're going to play by the
Queen's rules. No, I'm telling you right now, we need
to win in the midterm. We need to stop him
from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election. And
if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, we
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need to look at our ways of doing that right now.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Can I just tell you, Clay, if anyone's fun, maybe
you should put this up on clayanbuck dot com. Take
a look at Illinois congressional districts. Everybody a state where unfortunately,
you know, I've been to Springfield, Illinois years ago to
give a speech. There's actually a fair amount of Republicans
in that area. Like the rest of Illinois, like a
lot of blue states, is actually quite sane and quite
beautiful in its politics and in its countryside. It's Chicago
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that makes the whole thing just a Democrat Democrat uniparty.
And when you look at the congressional map, it is absurd.
I mean, you've got the congressional map, it's like this
little sliver here and there. They have gone to extreme
lengths to maintain the maximum number of congressional seats for
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themselves in that state. And Corey Booker and Kathy Hochel
are a senator and a governor, respectively, of the Democrats
acting like, hey, if you guys, don't stop what you're doing.
We're gonna do the thing that we've ruthlessly doing all along.
What kind of a threat is that. It's like them
threatening to be a bunch of emotionally unstable weirdos.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They're already there.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, let me give you an example, because to your point, Buck,
Illinois was about a ten and a half point difference
in the election, fifty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Four to forty three.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So Illinois was closer percentage wise than Texas was, certainly
than Florida was.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They used to be toss up states.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Too, so and they basically have written out almost all
Democrats have taken over almost all of the congressional seats,
even though to your point, you're talking about a forty
four percent of the vote going this past year to
Trump inside of Illinois. Yeah, to your point as well,
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it's the Midwest version of New York and California. Because
of Chicago's size, they have been able basically to take
over the entire state and make it a only one
in the Midwest that is somewhat of a monster reliable
blue state turnout. So point on all this is there
(14:07):
is much drama to come, but it is starting in
Texas and we will see what happens with when the
Democrat legislators in the state legislature are going to be
forced to come back, and we'll follow this. And we
have reached out as well, by the way, to the
governor of Texas who's been on the show quite a lot,
(14:28):
Greg Abbott, to see what the latest is there, and
he has an open invite to come on the program also.
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report numbers on Friday. This is what he said, play thirteen.
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We had no confidence.
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So it's a scam in my opinion.
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Clay he says, it's a scam. I just want to
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back in clay Buck Sexton show a lot of
reactions pouring into the Texas attempt to redistribute, reallocate redistrict
a bunch of different states and the congressional districts so
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that Republicans would gain five seats, And a lot of
you from all over the country are weighing in with
a variety of different perspectives, and I'm going to read
several of them. One of you listening in New Mexico
writes in and I want to make sure that I
get this, but I'm looking as I was talking to you,
I was looking up what the twenty twenty four New
Mexico presidential election.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Results looked like.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And Kamala Harris won New Mexico by about five points.
Trump got forty six percent of the vote, Kamala Harris
got fifty one or fifty two percent of the vote,
so five to six points.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
In other words, pretty close as states go.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Virginia was very close, New Mexico was very close, New
Jersey was very close. Minnesota very close. If you are
on the Republican side, looking towards additional states that could
have flipped. But for you know, two and a half
or three percent of voters changing their minds, the outcome
of that race could have been completely flipped. And the
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reactions pouring in and this is a good one. This
is from Kevin. I live in New Mexico. I just
told you it was a state five five and a
half points that Trump lost. A couple of years ago,
the Democrat leader of the state legislature publicly stated he
would redraw the lines in New Mexico so no Republican
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would ever win again, and he did just that. Most
of southern New Mexico is conservative. We've always been able
to elect Republicans in the southern district. The redrawn lines
put large portions of more liberal areas in the north,
Albuquerque and Santa Fe into the southern district. As a result,
Southern New Mexico has no representation. Don't let the Democrats
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act like this is something new and they've never done
it before. They can't handle not being in power. New
Mexico is a great example, I believe again. And there
are a lot of different states and a lot of
different redistrictings to be on top of but I believe
just in the last few years, New Mexico said, hey,
we are going to effectively eliminate the Republican Party, and
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Democrats have all of the congressional seats. I want to
look up what the math is in Illinois because it's
among the most egregious as we were talking about earlier.
But this is a good question too from Britt who
writes in I don't know enough to fully understand the
redistricting fight in Texas. I'm all for it if it
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helps keep Texas red. How does the influx of illegal
immigrants being counted in the sense play into the numbers?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
This is a huge story that no one talks about.
They aren't ostensibly allowed to vote, but illegal immigrants are
counted for congressional districts for purposes of the overall population
in a district. And I think roughly seven hundred thousand
in change is the average number of people in each
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congressional district, and illegal immigrants are counted there. And depending
on which study you look at, Republicans are losing and
Democrats are gaining ten or more seats based on illegal
immigrants being counted for purposes of a redistricting that seems
to me like it shouldn't be allowed and it seems
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like something that should be addressed. And again I didn't
know this until a few years ago was even going on.
I feel like huge percentages of people don't know it
still exists. It's hoping to preserve districts that otherwise would
be flipped for actual citizens. And it's actually an incentive
for why illegal immigration does benefit the Democrat party when
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it comes to political power allocation.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Just looking at the strategy here what they've got going on.
Legislators may have committed felonies. We talked about that if
they solicit funds to evade the fines that exist under
House rules. So Texas Democrats face a five hundred dollars
a day fine. Republican controlled legislature approve this punishment in
twenty twenty three when Democrats left for three weeks to
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try to block another bill on election integrity, and Abbott
has said in his statement play I will use my
full extradition authority to demand the return to Texas of
any potential out of state felons. Texas State House Democrat
Caucus said, come and take it. So they're you know,
they're creating a show down. I get it, it's politics
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and everything else. But the reality here is Democrats are
acting like children because they're not getting their way, and
that's there's there's no what is the good faith explanation
they have for are we're supposed to be representatives, We're
supposed to show up when there's a session called. We're
just not going to show up to do our job,
so that you can't actually function as the State of
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Texas elected officials. So you know, I think that this
is pretty clear what's going on to anyone who's paying attention.
But that's really what this goes to, Clay. They're hoping
that a lot of people just want to hear Republicans
are bad. They don't ever get beyond that. If you
turn on MSNBC. I might have even had Morning Joe
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on a little bit this morning. You turn on MSNBC,
it's just Republicans are bad. The argument doesn't matter. And
so you have the same thing with jerrymandering, where it's
they're evil. They're doing the thing that we do all
the time, exactly the same or worse. It doesn't matter, right,
They just want to hear what they want to hear.
So I think whatever tools Texas Republicans have it on
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at hand to get the quorum, they should absolutely use
and they should put on the political brass knuckles for
this one.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's time.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Illinois fourteen Democrats, three Republicans, and I just told you
that Republicans got almost forty five percent of the overall
presidential vote in the state. So fourteen to three in
Illinois is among the most egregious of all of the
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redrawn states. We just mentioned New Mexico, which forty six
percent of people voted Republican in that state, not one
single congressional representative. And by the way, I would think
as you look towards twenty twenty eight that New Mexico
is one of the states that Republicans would say it
may well be moving towards us because Nevada and Arizona,
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we're both very successful twenty twenty four cycles.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, also, what tools are at their disposal? Just to
clarify that, Governor Abbott has said that this is a
quote abandonment or forfeiture of an elected state office, and
so they don't show up. The Texas AG says that
they can take steps to quote remove the missing Democrats
from membership in the Texas House. Now maybe that goes
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into the courts, but let's let's be very clear about this.
If they're able to do this, I mean, just just
work on this logically. Like I'm not going to pretend
that I'm an expert in the Texas State Constitution, right,
and I'm sure it's a robust and very interesting document. Uh,
but if you just look at this logically, Clay, then
anybody who's in the minority party could completely block all
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business in the in the Texas or in the state
legislature that they don't like by refusing to show up
for work.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's it. I mean, think about what a what a
you know, VW that is on the business of the state.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You can just say, oh, until we have a majority
in this state, we are just going to stay home
from work and prevent the other people who want to
show up from doing the people's business.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's insane. Well, of course that's insane.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Not only that, how about the decision to flee to Illinois,
which is I think probably the most jerry manndered state
in the entire country. Texas Democrats will still have a
much higher percentage of seats in the state of Texas
than Republicans do in Illinois. So I just I don't
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understand sometimes how moronic the calculus is. And it's not
always on the Democrat side, also on the Republican side
sometimes this happens. But if you were just calling up
for advice and you said, hey, we're going to leave
the state and refuse to do our job, I would say, well,
I think that's a bad look point one. And then
in point two, if you were saying, and we're going
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to flee and we're gonna go to Illinois, I would say, well,
have you looked at the map of Illinois? Because you're
actually arguing against a jerrymander by fleeing to the most
egregious jerrymandered state in the entire country.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
But you are getting several layers deep into this analysis,
and they are assuming they're Democrats, they assume their voters
don't know anything to begin with, so they're definitely not
going to understand or care to understand what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Right You're you're approaching this like if you were.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Sitting across from somebody who's a you know, a Democrat
political strategist, and we're having this argument or you're having
this debate, right, which it's important for all of you
to hear this, But what Clay is doing doesn't even
I don't think this the Democrats believe that's even relevant.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, the argument is irrelevant. It's the emotion, it's
the feeling.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's yeah, resist, But even if you're there, even if
you're a moron and you're like, hey, first of all,
to start now and act like when every state has
basically jerrymandered from a whole decade that is either red
or blue, to act now as if oh my goodness,
I can't believe Texas. I love to, you know, grab
your pearls and fall on your fainting couch here is ridiculous.
(29:11):
But if you're going to protest, I would just suggest
going to a blue state that is one of the
least jerry mandered states and trying to argue, hey, this
is the way that real politicians do it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
JB.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Pritzker, the trust fund billionaires, said, he's providing them with
office space and he's hooking them up, right, I mean,
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Speaker 1 (29:34):
And also he isn't that hard to do that in Minnesota,
or to do that. I mean, I'm just saying even
by moron status to go to drop you got to
drop the IQ fifteen points here, Clay. You got to
stop thinking, you know, you got to start thinking about this,
like the the average MSNBC viewer who's.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Just like, Eh, Republicans are bad. I don't like them,
you know, that's it. What they're doing. Jerry Mandering is racist.
How is Jared? What does it even mean? It's just
about getting votes for your song? It's racist, I mean anything.
This is actually interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Do you know why, calif why Texas is able to
change the congressional districts as they are. Hispanic support, Yes,
the Hispanic support for opposity racist.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah. And by the way, the biggest wings when it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Comes to congressional districts of Hispanic support towards the Republicans
are in the areas most directly affected by the open border,
free for all policies of the Biden administration, meaning border adjacent.
They've had people literally running through their backyards for years
and they've had enough. They actually don't like that, And
I understand why.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I just think it's super fascinating because the reason this,
this map is able to be written and expanded as
it is is because Democrats have hemorrhaged Hispanic support and
as a result, Republicans can now draw majority Hispanic districts
which are going to elect Republicans, which, by the way,
(31:05):
you talked earlier about Trump being right, they said that
Trump would make Hispanics forever not willing to vote for Republicans. Instead,
he almost won Hispanics in twenty twenty four according to
nationwide AP vote casts.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And this is a racist hugely the historic advantage. This
is a huge reason.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Why the pendulum has swung so clearly on the issue
of deportations and immigration enforcement.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
It used to be, oh, you're racist, you want a
secure border. Really, the the.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Sixty percent of Latinos who want a secure border because
they're Latino Americans who are legally here, they're racist against Latinos,
is that is that what we're going for doesn't work.
That's just that's not that doesn't fly the way that
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Listen.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I'm driving on the Southern State Parkway listening to Kathy
Hochel speak about the redistioning, and I was tempted to
swerve my car into an abutment and just end it
all because so while I was on hold, I googled
this entire process.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
It's goes something like. In twenty ten, New York voters
me included passed an initiative on the ballot demanding a
independent person to the redistionsing. It passed overwhelming the people
spoke in twenty fourteen. From twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two,
the Democrats realized they just screwed themselves and try to
get out of it, to the point where when our
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new Chief Justice was about to be appointed in New
York State, Hoko went along with the long respected panel
that tells you who the best judges she appointed. She
wanted to appoint the judge, but he had ordered at
the Canada bag that he was not going to a
left this rule to be overturned that we voted for,
so they couldn't put him in so they had to
put another person in who allowed this entire process to
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get to get politicized. And as a result my district,
I was in Peter King's district, I went to Garbarino's district.
Then I was back in Swazi's district, which became Santos's
district when he won, was quickly redistrict again. And now
you notice that you don't hear a peep from either
Swazi or Laura Gillen about Mandani or anything, because they
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know they are two votes away from losing. They had
the very tight elections, and they're trying desperately to redistrict again,
to push those districts further into New York City to
get more Democratic voters. And for Kathy Hochel to say
anything about the state of Texas is I would say
it's comical, but I don't know whether I should laugh
for cry. And we're stuck in New York here where
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we lose the we lose theguvatory in elections. We have
forty two to forty five percent of the vote, but
we only have about twelve as you know, our congressional disition.
Gerry Mantew went into their life, the state Senate and
legislative districts are even worse. You couldn't even come up
with a Ruschack test to what some of these districts
look like. Kathy Hockel and California and Illinois hold might
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be it. I live in New York. We do it
better than anybody.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Dan and Long Island representing the Strong Island well with
the call Dan, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
New York Times has a had a big deep dive
on this, and they said, again, I think the easiest
way to look at this is by the overall national
popular vote in who the votes are going to. Democrats
have benefited in twenty four Republicans should have had a
bigger majority than we did, and so it slants a
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little bit left according to the New York Times, which
if they're saying, I feel like it's probably a little
bit left slanted right and maybe a little bit more
than a little bit more on this.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We come back appreciate y'all one day.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Dis
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Appreciate all of.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You hanging out with us as we are rolling into
yet another week with lots of good news pouring in.
There now seems to be expectation that, guess what, Trump
was right, they are going to cut interest rates in September.
Stock market is soaring on those expectations today, moving back
(00:28):
towards record high levels. So that is the big economic news.
As we move closer and closer to a terraff resolution
with many different countries around the world, also a bunch
of other things going on. We have got Texas redistricting
turning into a monster battle which I am going to
(00:52):
dive into here with you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Shortly. Machetes have been banned in.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Australia, which is just aridiculously funny story we'll have some
fun with. And President Trump has weighed in on Sidney
Sweeney and the impact of that ad continues to echo
as also for those of you out there that get
fired up about culture and.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't care and you're like Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Is registered as a Republican in Bucks state of Florida.
I challenge anybody out there, Buck We'll get into this
a little bit, but I can't think of anybody in
his or her twenties that is as famous in Hollywood
as Sidney Sweeney is that has ever been publicly identified
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as a Republican. Now, there are lots of people, because
I've spent a lot of time in LA and what
you always hear in LA is if they never talk
about politics, they're a Republican. And there are lots of
those people out there, many of whom you would be
fans of if you enjoy going to movies, television shows,
streaming service is all those things. So there are lots
of them, they just don't speak out Sidney Sweeney being
(02:05):
a registered Republican in her twenties. Look, there are guys
like Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzeneger Mel Gibson, a lot of
the stars of nineteen eighties film are Republicans and are
out there publicly, but they're all in their seventies or older.
To have a twenty seven year old Hollywood starlet near
the top of her game being out and out Republican,
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I think is significant culturally. We'll get into that, but
in the meantime, and this is actually very significant, I think,
and we talked about this a little bit last week.
There is a panic setting in inside of the Democrat
Party over the fact that Texas is potentially going to
be redistricting as part of its midterm sort of process.
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This is normal in Texas because the legislature, I believe,
only comes in like every other year. They do not
have a supremely active legislature, and so they're a little
bit behind on some of these things. And by the way,
we'll also update you on the latest. I know many
of you fired up about that attack in Cincinnati, which
has received a great deal of discussion at Peers guy
(03:16):
and a gal, both innocent of doing basically anything wrong,
getting beaten up in Cincinnati, and the reaction to it.
We talked about that with Bernie Marino last week. But
I want to start with this. Democrats buck are saying
that they are going to flee the state to stop
this redistricting from taking place. This is something that I
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think they have done before, and it's turned into a
controversy and Greg Abbott, governor of Texas, is having none
of it. He says they will face felony charges if
they refuse to return to the Capitol.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Here's cut ten.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So very simply, it would be bribery if any lawmaker
took money to perform or to refuse to perform and
act in the lets and the reports are these legislators
have been both. They sought money and they offered money
to skip the vote, to leave the legislature to take
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a legislative act. That would be bribery. And so the
facts will have to come out. But I think based
upon comments made by legislators themselves, they face a possibility
facing bribery charges, which is a second degree felony in
the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, I believe the reports are buck that they are
fleeing to Illinois. This has turned into a big deal,
not only in Texas, but other states now saying well,
maybe we'll have to redistrict your.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Thoughts Illinois also known as Midwest California.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And by the way, to Illinois, one of the most
of all jerry mannered states in the nation, to flee
to Illinois. Actually just points out that blue states do
this too.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
This is just childish whining from Democrats on this issue.
There's no argument to be made. It is actually not
possible to raise a good faith argument that Democrats don't
do exactly this, which is jerry mander to their political
liking in states where that is lawful and they have control.
So let's not pretend like this is all of us.
(05:20):
It would be like saying, oh, my gosh, do you
see all these people the president is appointing who agree
with the president on policy. Yeah, that's the point. It's
our turn. Now we're in charge in Texas. Deal with it, Libs.
But instead they try to raise really alynskiite sabotage in
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the system that they try to find ways to pretend
like they're in the bathroom the whole time, so they
can't actually let the business of the state House go forward,
or in this case, they're fleeing the state entirely. I'll
also point this out Clay Governor Abbitt when he says
that people are accepting money to do a thing in
the legislature, that sounds like, you know, this isn't this
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isn't like someone explaining a complicated Rico case. And no, no, no.
If someone's giving you money and you're doing something or
not doing something in the legislature because of it, that
is pretty much textbook bribery. So if that is now
he says, we have to see and look at the facts.
But I don't think he would raise that unless there's
some reason to believe that this is what has been
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going on with some Democrats in that state. I think
that they maybe have forgotten themselves and forgotten statutory definitions a.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Bit here, but this is it's absurd.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
So they're going to try to prevent the business of
the state from occurring as representatives of the state by
just calling in sick to work. I mean, I think
imagine if the Republicans in when we had a minority
in the House of the Senate to this, we'd be
told that this is the end of the of the
Republic as we know it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, and it's just frankly an embarrassment. And so again
I did a lot of deep dive on this because
I'm a little bit of a nerd when it comes
to districting and effectively this question is just a function
of when you start it.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And let me explain what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Everybody does this to your point, and so acting like
what Texas is doing is somehow beyond the pale. What
has got democrats nervous is, Look, there's a three seat
majority right now in the House, and if five Republican
seats in theory were added in Texas, that takes it
to eight. It makes it harder for them to take
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back the House, and they don't like Usually the redistricting
happens at the you know, closer to twenty twenty. The
mid decade redistricting is somewhat rare, not necessarily for Texas here,
so there's actually a little bit of a slant towards
Democrats right now in the House because they did better
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in the House than they should have based on how
the national popular vote went. Right in theory, if we
had completely without jerry managering a national popular vote and
assigned congressional seats based on that, then Republicans would have
done a better job in the House in twenty twenty
four than they did one a narrow majority of the
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Republicans did by three. Because Democrats have successfully jerrymandered so
many different states and now they're fired up about Texas.
Let me also point this out. Almost no one talks
about it. We screwed up as a country the census,
and as a result, the electoral votes are all screwed
(08:32):
up in favor of Democrats right now, and almost no
one will talk about it in twenty thirty when the
new census is done and you also then are able
to take into account all of the relocations to red states.
Democrats are in a tremendous amount of trouble in the
electoral college starting in twenty thirty two, because, for instance,
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Kamala's path she would have won the election two seventy
two sixty eight if she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin,
that would have narrowly gotten her to the two seventy
majority that she needed to get to. That pathway is
not going to exist because red states are going to
be picking up a lot of additional electoral votes, and
(09:18):
so you can't win the presidency really without being able
to win some of the South, And so we're headed
for No One is talking about it because it's like
nobody can look more than one year in the future
when it comes to politics. But I think part of
this is a little bit of a panic setting in
on the Democrat side that the population bases of places
(09:42):
like Tennessee, Texas, and Florida are skyrocketing and they're taking
away the electoral votes of much of the Democrat base,
and so this is kind of an early preview of
a little bit of a panic that's setting in where
you're going to have more seats being reassigned to red
states and fewer in blue states. And again, the other
(10:03):
part of this that gets almost no attention is the
skewing for a legal immigration and that is a big
part of the taking people out of the country that
is hurting overall Democrats. So this story, I think is
a significant one, not only for what Texas does, but
for the mobilization that's going to be able to occur
(10:25):
in response to Texas. And that is why you are
already hearing people like Corey Booker and Kathy Hokel Let's
play Kathy Hokel more on New Yorker saying, Hey, maybe
we're going to have to do this too, cut twelve.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
But Texas and Republican states are doing it the direction
of Donald Trump, I say, is nothing short of a
legal insurrection against our capital. Legal meaning they're using the
legal process, does not mean it's legal, and it must
be stuffed. The Republicans are willing to rewrite these rules
to give themselves an advantage that they're leaving us no
choice we must do the same. There's a phrase, you
(11:01):
have to fight fire with fire. That is a true
statement of how we're feeling right now. And as I said,
another overused but applicable phrase, all's fair in love and war.
That's why I'm exploring with our leaders every option to
redraw our state congressional lines as soon as possible.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
What a morenes he is, buck Well, it's but it's
a widespread thing among Democrats now right. She's not the
only one, you know what, Clay, Let's have some fun
with this. Corey Booker, another prominent in this case, New
Jersey Democratic is having too much fun trashing these Northeastern
lives today. But here is Corey Booker of New Jersey
on the mid terms and jerry mandering, Play eleven.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
I'm sick of the jerrymandering. But if Donald Trump is
going to push to jerry nander Texas, he's going to
break the rules in order to win. He can't win
by the rules they are right now, so he thinks
you should break the rules for Democrats to sit back
and just say, Okay, we're going to play by the
Queen's rules. No, I'm telling you right now, we need
to win in the midterm. We need to stop him
from cheating, from lying, and from stealing the election. And
if they're doing something to add their congressional seats, we
(12:02):
need to look at our ways of doing that right now.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Can I just tell you, Clay, if anyone's fun, maybe
you should put this up on clayanbuck dot com. Take
a look at Illinois congressional districts. Everybody a state where unfortunately,
you know, I've been to Springfield, Illinois years ago to
give a speech. There's actually a fair amount of Republicans
in that area. Like the rest of Illinois, like a
lot of blue states, is actually quite sane and quite
beautiful in its politics and in its countryside. It's Chicago
(12:27):
that makes the whole thing just a Democrat Democrat uniparty.
And when you look at the congressional map, it is absurd.
I mean, you've got the congressional map, it's like this
little sliver here and there. They have gone to extreme
lengths to maintain the maximum number of congressional seats for
(12:47):
themselves in that state. And Corey Booker and Kathy Hochel
are a senator and a governor, respectively, of the Democrats
acting like, hey, if you guys, don't stop what you're doing.
We're gonna do the thing that we've ruthlessly doing all along.
What kind of a threat is that. It's like them
threatening to be a bunch of emotionally unstable weirdos.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
They're already there.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, let me give you an example, because to your point, Buck,
Illinois was about a ten and a half point difference
in the election, fifty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Four to forty three.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So Illinois was closer percentage wise than Texas was, certainly
than Florida was.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They used to be toss up states.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Too, so and they basically have written out almost all
Democrats have taken over almost all of the congressional seats,
even though to your point, you're talking about a forty
four percent of the vote going this past year to
Trump inside of Illinois. Yeah, to your point as well,
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it's the Midwest version of New York and California. Because
of Chicago's size, they have been able basically to take
over the entire state and make it a only one
in the Midwest that is somewhat of a monster reliable
blue state turnout. So point on all this is there
(14:07):
is much drama to come, but it is starting in
Texas and we will see what happens with when the
Democrat legislators in the state legislature are going to be
forced to come back, and we'll follow this. And we
have reached out as well, by the way, to the
governor of Texas who's been on the show quite a lot,
(14:28):
Greg Abbott, to see what the latest is there, and
he has an open invite to come on the program also.
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report numbers on Friday. This is what he said, play thirteen.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
We'll be announcing a new statistician sometime over the next
three four days.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
We had no confidence.
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So it's a scam in my opinion.
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Clay he says, it's a scam. I just want to
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What I would just say is some people are saying, oh,
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Welcome back in clay Buck Sexton show a lot of
reactions pouring into the Texas attempt to redistribute, reallocate redistrict
a bunch of different states and the congressional districts so
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that Republicans would gain five seats, And a lot of
you from all over the country are weighing in with
a variety of different perspectives, and I'm going to read
several of them. One of you listening in New Mexico
writes in and I want to make sure that I
get this, but I'm looking as I was talking to you,
I was looking up what the twenty twenty four New
Mexico presidential election.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Results looked like.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And Kamala Harris won New Mexico by about five points.
Trump got forty six percent of the vote, Kamala Harris
got fifty one or fifty two percent of the vote,
so five to six points.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
In other words, pretty close as states go.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Virginia was very close, New Mexico was very close, New
Jersey was very close. Minnesota very close. If you are
on the Republican side, looking towards additional states that could
have flipped. But for you know, two and a half
or three percent of voters changing their minds, the outcome
of that race could have been completely flipped. And the
(20:27):
reactions pouring in and this is a good one. This
is from Kevin. I live in New Mexico. I just
told you it was a state five five and a
half points that Trump lost. A couple of years ago,
the Democrat leader of the state legislature publicly stated he
would redraw the lines in New Mexico so no Republican
(20:47):
would ever win again, and he did just that. Most
of southern New Mexico is conservative. We've always been able
to elect Republicans in the southern district. The redrawn lines
put large portions of more liberal areas in the north,
Albuquerque and Santa Fe into the southern district. As a result,
Southern New Mexico has no representation. Don't let the Democrats
(21:11):
act like this is something new and they've never done
it before. They can't handle not being in power. New
Mexico is a great example, I believe again. And there
are a lot of different states and a lot of
different redistrictings to be on top of but I believe
just in the last few years, New Mexico said, hey,
we are going to effectively eliminate the Republican Party, and
(21:33):
Democrats have all of the congressional seats. I want to
look up what the math is in Illinois because it's
among the most egregious as we were talking about earlier.
But this is a good question too from Britt who
writes in I don't know enough to fully understand the
redistricting fight in Texas. I'm all for it if it
(21:54):
helps keep Texas red. How does the influx of illegal
immigrants being counted in the sense play into the numbers?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
This is a huge story that no one talks about.
They aren't ostensibly allowed to vote, but illegal immigrants are
counted for congressional districts for purposes of the overall population
in a district. And I think roughly seven hundred thousand
in change is the average number of people in each
(22:25):
congressional district, and illegal immigrants are counted there. And depending
on which study you look at, Republicans are losing and
Democrats are gaining ten or more seats based on illegal
immigrants being counted for purposes of a redistricting that seems
to me like it shouldn't be allowed and it seems
(22:48):
like something that should be addressed. And again I didn't
know this until a few years ago was even going on.
I feel like huge percentages of people don't know it
still exists. It's hoping to preserve districts that otherwise would
be flipped for actual citizens. And it's actually an incentive
for why illegal immigration does benefit the Democrat party when
(23:11):
it comes to political power allocation.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Just looking at the strategy here what they've got going on.
Legislators may have committed felonies. We talked about that if
they solicit funds to evade the fines that exist under
House rules. So Texas Democrats face a five hundred dollars
a day fine. Republican controlled legislature approve this punishment in
twenty twenty three when Democrats left for three weeks to
(23:38):
try to block another bill on election integrity, and Abbott
has said in his statement play I will use my
full extradition authority to demand the return to Texas of
any potential out of state felons. Texas State House Democrat
Caucus said, come and take it. So they're you know,
they're creating a show down. I get it, it's politics
(24:00):
and everything else. But the reality here is Democrats are
acting like children because they're not getting their way, and
that's there's there's no what is the good faith explanation
they have for are we're supposed to be representatives, We're
supposed to show up when there's a session called. We're
just not going to show up to do our job,
so that you can't actually function as the State of
(24:24):
Texas elected officials. So you know, I think that this
is pretty clear what's going on to anyone who's paying attention.
But that's really what this goes to, Clay. They're hoping
that a lot of people just want to hear Republicans
are bad. They don't ever get beyond that. If you
turn on MSNBC. I might have even had Morning Joe
(24:44):
on a little bit this morning. You turn on MSNBC,
it's just Republicans are bad. The argument doesn't matter. And
so you have the same thing with jerrymandering, where it's
they're evil. They're doing the thing that we do all
the time, exactly the same or worse. It doesn't matter, right,
They just want to hear what they want to hear.
So I think whatever tools Texas Republicans have it on
(25:05):
at hand to get the quorum, they should absolutely use
and they should put on the political brass knuckles for
this one.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's time.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Illinois fourteen Democrats, three Republicans, and I just told you
that Republicans got almost forty five percent of the overall
presidential vote in the state. So fourteen to three in
Illinois is among the most egregious of all of the
(25:36):
redrawn states. We just mentioned New Mexico, which forty six
percent of people voted Republican in that state, not one
single congressional representative. And by the way, I would think
as you look towards twenty twenty eight that New Mexico
is one of the states that Republicans would say it
may well be moving towards us because Nevada and Arizona,
(26:00):
we're both very successful twenty twenty four cycles.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, also, what tools are at their disposal? Just to
clarify that, Governor Abbott has said that this is a
quote abandonment or forfeiture of an elected state office, and
so they don't show up. The Texas AG says that
they can take steps to quote remove the missing Democrats
from membership in the Texas House. Now maybe that goes
(26:27):
into the courts, but let's let's be very clear about this.
If they're able to do this, I mean, just just
work on this logically. Like I'm not going to pretend
that I'm an expert in the Texas State Constitution, right,
and I'm sure it's a robust and very interesting document. Uh,
but if you just look at this logically, Clay, then
anybody who's in the minority party could completely block all
(26:48):
business in the in the Texas or in the state
legislature that they don't like by refusing to show up
for work.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's it. I mean, think about what a what a
you know, VW that is on the business of the state.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You can just say, oh, until we have a majority
in this state, we are just going to stay home
from work and prevent the other people who want to
show up from doing the people's business.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's insane. Well, of course that's insane.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Not only that, how about the decision to flee to Illinois,
which is I think probably the most jerry manndered state
in the entire country. Texas Democrats will still have a
much higher percentage of seats in the state of Texas
than Republicans do in Illinois. So I just I don't
(27:38):
understand sometimes how moronic the calculus is. And it's not
always on the Democrat side, also on the Republican side
sometimes this happens. But if you were just calling up
for advice and you said, hey, we're going to leave
the state and refuse to do our job, I would say, well,
I think that's a bad look point one. And then
in point two, if you were saying, and we're going
(27:59):
to flee and we're gonna go to Illinois, I would say, well,
have you looked at the map of Illinois? Because you're
actually arguing against a jerrymander by fleeing to the most
egregious jerrymandered state in the entire country.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
But you are getting several layers deep into this analysis,
and they are assuming they're Democrats, they assume their voters
don't know anything to begin with, so they're definitely not
going to understand or care to understand what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Right You're you're approaching this like if you were.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Sitting across from somebody who's a you know, a Democrat
political strategist, and we're having this argument or you're having
this debate, right, which it's important for all of you
to hear this, But what Clay is doing doesn't even
I don't think this the Democrats believe that's even relevant.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, the argument is irrelevant. It's the emotion, it's
the feeling.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's yeah, resist, But even if you're there, even if
you're a moron and you're like, hey, first of all,
to start now and act like when every state has
basically jerrymandered from a whole decade that is either red
or blue, to act now as if oh my goodness,
I can't believe Texas. I love to, you know, grab
your pearls and fall on your fainting couch here is ridiculous.
(29:11):
But if you're going to protest, I would just suggest
going to a blue state that is one of the
least jerry mandered states and trying to argue, hey, this
is the way that real politicians do it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
JB.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Pritzker, the trust fund billionaires, said, he's providing them with
office space and he's hooking them up, right, I mean,
he's got them covered.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And also he isn't that hard to do that in Minnesota,
or to do that. I mean, I'm just saying even
by moron status to go to drop you got to
drop the IQ fifteen points here, Clay. You got to
stop thinking, you know, you got to start thinking about this,
like the the average MSNBC viewer who's.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Just like, Eh, Republicans are bad. I don't like them,
you know, that's it. What they're doing. Jerry Mandering is racist.
How is Jared? What does it even mean? It's just
about getting votes for your song? It's racist, I mean anything.
This is actually interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Do you know why, calif why Texas is able to
change the congressional districts as they are. Hispanic support, Yes,
the Hispanic support for opposity racist.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah. And by the way, the biggest wings when it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Comes to congressional districts of Hispanic support towards the Republicans
are in the areas most directly affected by the open border,
free for all policies of the Biden administration, meaning border adjacent.
They've had people literally running through their backyards for years
and they've had enough. They actually don't like that, And
I understand why.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I just think it's super fascinating because the reason this,
this map is able to be written and expanded as
it is is because Democrats have hemorrhaged Hispanic support and
as a result, Republicans can now draw majority Hispanic districts
which are going to elect Republicans, which, by the way,
(31:05):
you talked earlier about Trump being right, they said that
Trump would make Hispanics forever not willing to vote for Republicans. Instead,
he almost won Hispanics in twenty twenty four according to
nationwide AP vote casts.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And this is a racist hugely the historic advantage. This
is a huge reason.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Why the pendulum has swung so clearly on the issue
of deportations and immigration enforcement.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
It used to be, oh, you're racist, you want a
secure border. Really, the the.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Sixty percent of Latinos who want a secure border because
they're Latino Americans who are legally here, they're racist against Latinos,
is that is that what we're going for doesn't work.
That's just that's not that doesn't fly the way that
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Listen.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I'm driving on the Southern State Parkway listening to Kathy
Hochel speak about the redistioning, and I was tempted to
swerve my car into an abutment and just end it
all because so while I was on hold, I googled
this entire process.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
It's goes something like. In twenty ten, New York voters
me included passed an initiative on the ballot demanding a
independent person to the redistionsing. It passed overwhelming the people
spoke in twenty fourteen. From twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two,
the Democrats realized they just screwed themselves and try to
get out of it, to the point where when our
(34:47):
new Chief Justice was about to be appointed in New
York State, Hoko went along with the long respected panel
that tells you who the best judges she appointed. She
wanted to appoint the judge, but he had ordered at
the Canada bag that he was not going to a
left this rule to be overturned that we voted for,
so they couldn't put him in so they had to
put another person in who allowed this entire process to
(35:07):
get to get politicized. And as a result my district,
I was in Peter King's district, I went to Garbarino's district.
Then I was back in Swazi's district, which became Santos's
district when he won, was quickly redistrict again. And now
you notice that you don't hear a peep from either
Swazi or Laura Gillen about Mandani or anything, because they
(35:30):
know they are two votes away from losing. They had
the very tight elections, and they're trying desperately to redistrict again,
to push those districts further into New York City to
get more Democratic voters. And for Kathy Hochel to say
anything about the state of Texas is I would say
it's comical, but I don't know whether I should laugh
for cry. And we're stuck in New York here where
(35:51):
we lose the we lose theguvatory in elections. We have
forty two to forty five percent of the vote, but
we only have about twelve as you know, our congressional disition.
Gerry Mantew went into their life, the state Senate and
legislative districts are even worse. You couldn't even come up
with a Ruschack test to what some of these districts
look like. Kathy Hockel and California and Illinois hold might
(36:13):
be it. I live in New York. We do it
better than anybody.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Dan and Long Island representing the Strong Island well with
the call Dan, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
New York Times has a had a big deep dive
on this, and they said, again, I think the easiest
way to look at this is by the overall national
popular vote in who the votes are going to. Democrats
have benefited in twenty four Republicans should have had a
bigger majority than we did, and so it slants a
(36:41):
little bit left according to the New York Times, which
if they're saying, I feel like it's probably a little
bit left slanted right and maybe a little bit more
than a little bit more on this.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We come back appreciate y'all one day.
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