September 3, 2025 • 35 mins
In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive into a packed news cycle with a focus on President Donald Trump’s live Oval Office appearance, his strong stance on violent crime in Chicago, and a dramatic shift in U.S. policy toward drug cartels. This hour delivers high-impact political commentary, national security insights, and cultural observations, making it a must-listen for conservative audiences and political news followers.
The show opens with Trump’s Oval Office meeting with the President of Poland, Karol Nawrocki, highlighting Poland’s role as a key U.S. ally. The hosts promise to bring listeners any breaking developments from the meeting, especially regarding U.S.-Russia relations and Trump’s message to Vladimir Putin amid ongoing tensions in Ukraine.
A major theme of the hour is Trump’s vow to intervene in Chicago’s crime crisis, sparking a heated debate with Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. Trump’s declaration that “we’re going in” signals potential federal law enforcement action, which Clay and Buck frame as part of a broader “war on violent crime”—a central issue they predict will dominate the fall political narrative. The hosts argue that increased police presence is the proven solution to urban violence, citing Washington D.C.’s turnaround as evidence.
Mayor Johnson’s counterclaim—that guns trafficked from red states are to blame for Chicago’s violence—is sharply criticized. Clay and Buck dismantle the argument, emphasizing that lawful gun ownership in red states correlates with low crime rates, and that criminals—not guns—are the root cause. They defend Second Amendment rights and call for stronger support of law enforcement, noting the shift in public sentiment since the anti-police rhetoric of 2020.
The hour also covers a major escalation in the war on drug cartels, with Trump announcing a lethal missile strike on a Venezuelan drug boat. The hosts analyze the implications of treating cartels as global narco-terrorists, suggesting this marks a strategic pivot from criminal justice to military-style deterrence. They explore the broader geopolitical context, including Venezuela’s role as a failed socialist state and its leader Nicolás Maduro’s designation as a narco-trafficker by the U.S. Treasury Department.
Clay and Buck also discuss the technological evolution of cartel violence, warning that drone warfare may soon replace traditional drive-by shootings. They highlight how cartels are already using drones to drop explosives, raising concerns about future domestic threats.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis n.
Buck Sexton Show. We started late this week because we
had Monday off. I'm glad I got the day right.
That's always a challenge when you used to doing daily radio.
So high five to me on that one. Boom we got,
you know what I mean, you got to take the
wins where you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Can get up.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I whif on that, you know, probably every three months
or so. So it's a good start.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Happens to the best of us. But I got it today,
so that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We got Trump speaking to everybody all across this nation
right now from the Oval Office alive. He is with
the the premiere of Poland, and they are Poland, a
very staunch usilly, great country in Europe. We will bring
you anything that is pressing, breaking important from that conversation.
(00:48):
We have a few things to talk about today that
happened right after the show yesterday. You know, you had
Chicago Mayor Johnson. We're going to get to that in
a second here and Trump going back and forth over
whether there should be some kind of assistance to deal
with crime in the city of Chicago. Trump has said
(01:12):
we're going in. He has made this very clear that
there is going to be some additional action with law
enforcement to try using the federal government's resources to try
to bring the crime situation more under control there.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
This was also interesting, Clay.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think we should talk about it a bit because
I believe it's a signal of things to come. There
was a lethal strike, so a kinetic strike on a
outside of Venezuela in the Caribbean, but I think it
was a Venezuelan ship was carrying drugs, and we didn't
(01:50):
send the Coastguard or the Navy to arrest them.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
We blew it up.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Now they were designated narco terrorists, so this is under
presidential authority. But that is a clear escalation in the
war on the cartels and the war on the fentanyl
poisoning of the American people. And I think it's just
the beginning of what's going to be ramping up considerably.
And our sources in DC have been telling us to
(02:16):
expect this for quite some time, and from this administration,
we have been hearing that it's just a matter of
time before this becomes a bigger fight, and we're taking
a different approach to dealing with these cartel It's going
to treat them like true global narco terrorists instead of
some kind of INTERPOL international law enforcement only issue. So
(02:39):
we got a few things to update you on with
all of that. Oh, and then also a nice video
with a happy ending of a boy who went to
Chick fil A. He was five years old. He would
Clay share this out. It's going viral. I saw this.
He went to Chick fil A. He could not resist
those waffle fries, first thing in the morning, five years old,
let himself out of house, unlocked the door. It's so
(03:01):
he's fine, he's back with his parents. I'm sure he's
never gonna do this again. But there's some funny video.
We can talk about that in a bit. If you
were five years old, would Chick fil A b the
fast food place you would break out of your home
to get to first thing in the morning. Probably it's
I'm forty six years old, and if I broke out
of prison, the first place i'd go probably us to
get a Chick fil A sandwich. So I empathize with
the young man intensely. Now let's just update this on
(03:26):
Trump and Chicago because the governor, Governor Pritzker, Remember this
is a national story for a whole bunch of reasons.
Governor Pritzker wants to position himself as a Democrat presidential candidate.
Trump and Pritzker are exchanging words in the media. Brandon Johnson,
the mayor of Chicago, very much a man of the left.
He is going after Donald Trump aggressively on this issue.
(03:47):
Here's what Trump says about it. This was just yesterday
after we got off air. Play this has cut four
play it.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, we're going in. I didn't say when we're going in.
When you lose. Look, I have an obligation. This isn't
a political thing. I have an obligation when we lose.
When twenty people are killed over the last two and
a half weeks, and seventy five are shot with bullets.
So let me tell you a little story about a
place called DC District of Columbia. Right here where we are.
(04:16):
It's now a safe zone. We have no crime. We
have it's in such great shape. You can go and
actually walk with your children, your wife, your husband. You
can walk right down the middle of the street. You're
not going to be shot. Peter, You're safe.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Trump says he's going in Clay, going into Chicago. We
don't know when, but he says it's happening, So I
take him at his word. What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think it's the right move, and I think this
speaks to Trump's intuitive political gifts to not only do
what's correct, but also to do things that substantial majorities
of Americans agree with. And we'll talk, I imagine, for the
next several months about this, because the fall story so far,
(04:58):
and I know we just officially have got past Labor
Day and all of you out there that are calendar
officionados who want to say the first official day of
falls not till September twenty first, Okay, I think the
number one story of the fall is going to be
Trump waging war on violent crime. And I think that
is a phenomenal battleground for Trump to decide to focus on.
(05:22):
We said, economy, border crime. I think you're with me
that the economy is starting to fire on all cylinders
and that by the time we get through into next
year and the full impact of the tax cuts and
the accounting changes and all the other aspects, interest rates
coming down starting in September, there's going to be some
(05:44):
jet fuel poured into this economic situation. We're going to
be going really well, borders completely shut down, and Buck
they really haven't been able to turn deportations into a
real major issue. I think they made a poor decision
to use kill mar Brio Garcia as the front facing guy.
The other part is crime, and I think the data
(06:05):
from DC is going to increasingly show something that all
of you know to be true, which is when you
deploy more people to try to stop crime, crime goes down.
I mean, this is not a revolutionary idea. There's a
big article in the Wall Street Journal editorial page I
was reading this morning. It said, Hey, we know how
to stop crime. It's to put more police on the streets.
(06:26):
You had a great tweet which I think is one
hundred percent right the number of body cams. I think
this kid going to the Chick fil A is a
great example of it. We see it through the purview
of the officer on his bodycam. They are showing you
that the vast, vast majority of police officers every day
are phenomenal at their jobs, and most of what they
(06:49):
have to deal with is actually people being jerks to them,
not them being jerks to people.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And so I think.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You are seeing the police force, which for most of
American life we have tended to have a positive view of.
Starting around twenty twenty, the idea was suddenly you couldn't
have paw patrol, have a police character. Cops got taken
off the air. I think it's worth remembering where we were.
We have now cycled back to where we spent most
(07:19):
of our time, which is most cops, the vast, vast majority,
do a phenomenal job making us safer. We should have
more of them, not less of them. We should let
them do their jobs, and we should support them. Not
that they're perfect. They are going to be imperfect because
they are human, but by and large, they are every
single day putting their lives on the line to make
us all safer. And I think that's where the nation is,
(07:42):
That's where Trump is, and all that's moving in a
very positive direction.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And he said we're going in. On the other hand
of this, you have Mayor Brandon Johnson, and what he
wants to talk about is that red states have a
violence problem. He wants to make this national and explicitly partisan.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
This is cut eight.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Here is the one of the worst mayors in the country,
perhaps the worst mayor.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Tough their stiff competition. But here he is cut eight play.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
The vast majority of guns do not come from Chicago.
They are not made in Cook County. They are not
bought in the state of Illinois. These guns come from
Red states. They are coming from Indiana, they are coming
from Mississippi, they are coming from Louisiana. That is the
harsh reality. Whether Republicans like it or not, occupying our
city will do nothing to solve this problem. No matter
(08:34):
how much work we do or how hard we work,
none of it will ever be enough until the President
decides to end the match trafficking of guns in our city.
For every gun that the Chicago Police Department fights to
get off the streets, two or three more new guns
come into our city. Chicago will continue to have a
violence problem as long as Red states continue to have
(08:55):
a gun problem.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This is a total deflection. It's a frivolous argument, it's absurd,
and it just shows you, Clay that we're not in
a two sides are arguing about how to get to
the same goal situation we're in a Trump is saying,
let's do something that is almost certain to work, and
perhaps work substantially. I think it would work substantially and
(09:21):
on the other side of somebody who says, let's just
talk about some alternate reality where there aren't a few
hundred million guns already in circulation in this country and
criminals will find a way to get them illegally or legally,
one way or another.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I live in a red state. I live in one
of the reddest counties in the country. Buck, you have
been to my neighborhood. I bet the average home in
my neighborhood has more guns than by far most homes
and communities in America. I might be rookie numbers with
my guns here compared to what you got going up
(09:54):
there in Franklin County. That's fair in Williamson County, Franklin, Tennessee.
Do you know what the violent crime is here?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Buck?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Basically zero? So I don't want to hear the argument, oh,
red states have too many guns and that's causing crimes.
Crimes are caused by people who commit violent crimes. Sometimes
they use weapons, yes, but the idea gun ownership has
skyrocketed since twenty twenty in America. There are tons of
(10:24):
you out there right now listening to us who may
not have been gun people. And when you saw the
riots happening, and you saw people unable to drive through communities.
A lot of you got guns, Buck, I went to
Vanderbilt Law school. As many of you know, there are
a lot of girls for my class, girls.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That you would never think are.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Carrying guns that live in Red States and in their
cute little purses on their way into work every day,
they are carrying handguns in their purses. All over Red States.
The number of guns has skyrocketed. Crime crime has actually
started to go down now that we let police officers
(11:04):
do their job, So there's more guns on the street,
lower crime. And look, I really think people like Brandon
Johnson should have to really be held their feet to
the fire on these awful arguments that they're making because
it is not guns that is causing the issue in Chicago.
There are tons of people all over southern Illinois listening
(11:25):
to us right now who have entire gun safes on
their property. Violent crime rate very low in rural Illinois.
By and large. It is people who are criminals committing crimes.
The way to get criminals to not commit crimes is
to put them behind bars. It's not to claim that
Red State guns are causing crime in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
These arguments are getting embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Frankly, Also, what's more likely a focus if you're the
mayor of a city, in this case the city of Chicago,
what's more likely you're going to find way to address
a problem in your city, or you're going to wait
for the rest of the nation to fundamentally change, including
changing the United States Constitution and then also alter the
(12:12):
society you live in in a massive way. I mean,
you've got I don't even the latest numbers, probably eighty
to one hundred million people who have firearms in this country.
So the idea is what he says, stop the illegal
flow of guns. If it's illegal to buy the gun,
we already have laws and say don't do it. But
people who want to shoot people because they want to
(12:32):
sell drugs on the South or West side of Chicago
don't care what the law says about guns. And all
that it does is make it impossible for people like
you and me and your friends from Vanderburgh Law School
to lawfully enjoy our Second Amendment rights to defend ourselves
and also to be a check on tyranny.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Which I will have this argument with anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
After what we saw from the lib authoritarian democrats during
I have never been more set on the need for
as many good American citizens as possible to keep in
bare arms. I mean I was already pro two A,
but now I'm like, I think everybody. I think everybody
should should have at least off firearm they know how
to use in their home.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Laura Travis is going to have an absolute arsenal Buck.
You're going to be impressed. We're building a house. I
think she could overthrow some countries with the amount of
weapons that she's going to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I have no doubt ordering for the house. I have
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Speaking of being able to defend yourself, we're talking about firearms,
but also non lethal is critical because in so many
cases that's what the situation calls for. And also there
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Speaker 3 (14:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out out with us. By the way,
we're gonna hit you with some of the news that
is coming out from the meeting that the President is
having right now in the Oval Office with the Is
it the Prime Minister of Poland?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The president of Poland?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Here he was just asked Trump was his message for
Putin and and how things are going in the Ukraine
Russia attempt at peace? Here was cut thirty one.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I have no message to President Putin. He knows where
I stand, and you'll make a decision one way or
the other. Whatever his decision is, will either be happy
about it or unhappy. And if we're unhappy about it,
you'll see. Thanks, Sam.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I thought you just heard that was legitimately what the
President just said last night?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Was it last night?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think he sent out.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
A truth message saying, in response to the meeting that
is going on between North Korea and UH and China
and Russia, hey, basically, look out while you're conspiring against us,
we are paying attention and aware of what you are
doing there. And I think a lot of people who
(16:12):
are in this position of expecting Trump to have gone
easy on Russia, we all know the Russia Russia Russia hoax,
as Trump says, the collusion lies everything else. Buck, you
were in the center of that more than almost anybody.
I actually think Trump's public statements to Putin have been
(16:33):
pretty darn aggressive, and it's been very difficult for anybody
to even try to make the argument, Oh, this guy's
still the Manchurian candidate. Not to say people aren't trying,
but it's been very difficult to be able to make
that argument Legitimately.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We'll see what we'll see means when he says Putin's
going to make a decision here. Look, I think there's
some disappointment and frustration from the White House so far,
there has to be. Trump really made a good faith
effort to try to broker the end of a war
that he views as just in everyone's interest right to
end this thing and get it done. Putin's a nasty guy,
(17:13):
and he thinks that he still has the advantage and
there's no screws to tighten on him to change things
right now, or at least not. He hasn't seen enough
of that, so he's going to continue to try to
just chip away at the Ukrainian territory and get he
thinks a better deal in the end. I mean, eventually
this war will end. But as some of us saw
from the beginning. It'll cost a trillion dollars, it will
(17:33):
take many years, and a lot of people are going
to die, and it's just a shame that there's no
way to get it done yesterday, so to speak. I
wish that Trump was successful, and I wish everybody was
rooting for him to be successful in this too. I
know that doesn't really matter. All that matters is the
end result, Clay, but come on, the people that were
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Speaker 3 (17:53):
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All right, So some big things happened yesterday. There was
a lot of news to talk about during the show.
But then, as occasionally goes on, right after we went
off the air doing our life for three hours of programming,
some other stuff went down.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And this one was notable. And there are visual aids
if you will, there are there's video of this. It's
the first time that I'm aware of that this has
happened in this in this way. I'm im I was
expecting there'd be an escalation against the cartels. I'll say
(19:28):
that I didn't know it would get to this level
this quickly.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And here's what we here's what we have.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
We've got a boat that well here actually Trump announced this,
so let's let's hear from the President. Yeah, cup one play.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That we just over the last few minutes literally shout
out a boat, a drug carrying boat, A lot of
drugs in that boat, and you'll be seeing that and
you'll be reading about that. It just tappened moments ago.
And our great General, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
who has been so incredible, including what took place in Iran,
knocking out potential nuclear power for a long time to come.
(20:06):
I think within a month they would have had it.
We didn't do what we did, but he gave us
a little bit of a briefing and you'll see, and
there's more where that came from. We have a lot
of drugs pouring into our country, coming in for a
long time, and we just these came out of Venezuela
and coming out very heavily from Venezuela. A lot of
things are coming out of Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So we took it out, Okay, Clay, So they put
the video out there. It's now circulating widely on the internet.
And you have essentially a speedboat that is that is
going along. There's you can tell there's a bunch of
individuals in this boat. Look, I think it's a go
(20:46):
fast boat and then it gets hit.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
With a missile and it and and it is pardon me,
that was a different clip.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It got hit with a missile, and it is a
situation where there is now lethal force being used against
the cartels.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Look, I watched this video yesterday afternoon when it came out,
and there was a I give credit to New York Times,
although it's always a little bit suspect when you're writing
a behind the scenes piece on the fentanyl trade. Did
you see this piece? This was a few weeks ago.
They went and basically rode along with someone bringing fentanyl
(21:32):
from Mexico into the United States. The entire process, how
they were called ahead, who was bought off, which streets
they could go on, routes. I mean, it's incredibly organized,
and basically the guy that was doing the driving was
making the decision, Hey, this is life changing money for
(21:52):
my family. He was getting tens of thousands of dollars
and he decided that he was willing to take the
risk that he might get caught.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He did not.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
He got in, got in through the border, or drove
in through the car. The whole article was about the
different ways that they store the drugs, where they put
them in cars, how they remake them. I mean, it
is a massive undertaking that they have put in place.
When I watched us blow up that boat, I had
two thoughts. One, every single narco terrorist in America is
(22:25):
going to see this footage, every single one of them,
and it is going to change the calculus in their
mind of if I get caught, I'm going to prison
for several years. Two, I might get blown up and
never know that I am even in danger of getting
blown up because of United States technology.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was my first thought. My second thought was, boy,
we better get this right because nobody talked about it,
but we've talked about it on this program.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Joe Biden just blew up a dad, this whole family
in Afghanistan. After the attack on Abby Gate, the thirteen
Marines who were killed, they decided, hey, we're going to
get back.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And they found the wrong guy and he was driving
home with water in the trunk of his car, and
they blew up the whole house and killed.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The whole family.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Well, well, they blew up the car, right, so, but
it also killed the family like he blew up when
he pulled into the garage or the house in Afghanistan.
The difference that you could argue with that, Obviously it
was a is a horrible mistake and a number of
people died as a result of it. But the difference
that you had with that was you had the possibility
(23:45):
of imminent threat, meaning they believe that that was a
SVBIED suicide vehicle born improvised explosive device. They thought that's
now they were very wrong and they should have and
the whole thing. Biden and you know, Pentagon still looking
at this now, the withdrawal. It was a mess. We
lost marines. It's there was clearly a lot that went
(24:07):
terribly wrong. But from a law of war perspective, it's
one thing to say I thought this had an explosive
in it and was going to kill our people, right,
That's that's one It's.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
The risks assessment of that is if it happens is awful.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Under rules of engagement, that's an imminent immediate threat situation.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The mistake is what made it whore.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
If that had been an SVB i D, we'd be saying,
great work, brilliant, that it would be brilliant.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Nobody would question.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That A boat full of drugs. Now, I understand people
are going to say a few things about this. They're
going to say, designated a narco terrorists for Trenda Aragua. Yes,
they're going to say that the cartels and these are
all fair and accurate points, to be clear, but I'm
just letting this out. They're going to say that cartels
(24:59):
are a clear and present danger like the movie, but
the Clartellis pose a clear and present danger to the
American people because of the I think it went down
under one hundred thousand recently, but it's roughly one hundred
thousand people you're dying from drug overdoses. And also to
add to this, it's not just the drug overdoses, it's
the drug addiction, which leads to criminality and shootings and violence.
(25:21):
I mean, it is the mass poisoning of society. Yes,
and let me also add this. A lot of people who,
and this is awful, are dying of drug overdoses did
not even consent to take drugs that they thought were
potentially said that's right, they're poisoning. Right, they're being poisoned
because you're thinking, hey, and look, I want everybody's kids
(25:43):
to be careful on this. But you're thinking, hey, I'm
taking a party drug and it's lace with fentanyl and
the next thing you know, you're dead. You don't you're
not even agreeing to the risk associated. These are not
necessarily even drug addicts. So I do think the poisoning
element here doesn't get talked about it enough.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
One of this has been going on for a while.
One of the most.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Stark moments in a conversation I was having the first
Trump administration with the then acting Attorney General was on
this issue, Clay at the OJ, and I spoke to
some of the just to get a sense of what's
going on. Some of the DOJ officials focusing in on this,
specifically on the fentanyl and the cartels. Then they said
(26:24):
that they were making they imprint the pills intentionally to
look like pharmaceutical pills because they know that the end
based customer is going to say, oh, I'm taking like
a benzo or some kind of a drug that can
produce a high. They don't realize they're taking fentanyl or
car fentanyl or heaven knows what in this pill, and
(26:44):
that kills people. Right. This is where the quote hot
batch issue comes up. That's what they call it okay,
but it's not an imminence, meaning this boat is not
about to kill a thousand people in the next few minutes.
This boat is capable of being arrested and are you
stopped and then the people in it being arrested. But
(27:07):
to your point, Trump administrations decided they're designated, they're terrorists,
they're killing Americans. Enough is enough. But this is war tactic,
this is not criminal justice tactic.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I would also point out this is law of the jungle. Yeah,
we off air. I said, this is shiving somebody in
a line at a prison. You are basically sending a
message that is very public by the choice that you're making. Also,
I think this is directly connected to Maduro in Venezuela.
(27:41):
I think they want Maduro to know you are potentially next,
and I think they are letting him know that using
Venezuela as a narco terror state is not going to
be permitted. And so ultimately I think that they chose
this location to blow up that boat because they want Maduro.
(28:05):
Remember again not talked about a ton. Venezuela seized billions
of dollars in American company assets. I think primarily Chevron.
If I'm if I'm remembering my reading on this correctly
and took it over for the state. And they have
and this is one of the biggest oil producing states
(28:26):
in the world. And Maduro is an illegitimate leader and
he's taken over huge assets of American companies. I think
we want Maduro out and I think we are slowly
screwing tightening the screws on Maduro.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So Maduro, and I always tell people this because I
think it really Maduro himself is considered not just the
head of the Venezuelan state. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator,
but he's the head of a cartel. He's a He
himself the actual premier, the actual leader of Venezuela is
officially by the United States Trench Deepartment A designated narco
(29:02):
trafficker and running it. And now what you see is
that this is and this is why people talk about
Venezuela as a failed state and so sad because it
got to this state. Don't ever forget this. It got
to this position because of socialism, because of redistribution of wealth,
because of envy, because of all these things that unfortunately,
(29:23):
this virus that continues to make its way yes through
Latin America, but also into this country at different times
where if only you know, the rich get rinsed more,
everything will be better for everybody else but Clay. This
is how the Venezuelan elites, even with all the problems
they have, and I mean the true elites, the people
running the country, are funding their lifestyles and also staying
(29:44):
in power because they are generating huge amounts of cash
through selling drugs to America.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
They're killing people.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
This is it's very Tom Clancy circa nineteen you know,
nineteen ninety. I mean, this is a moment where you're
seeing the United States government is taking the threat of
the cartels as more of a nation state level nons
or sorry, a nation state level terror sponsor threat. And
that is a whole other thing. And we haven't even
(30:14):
talked about what this could mean for the cartels in Mexico.
We're focused right now on Venezuela. I totally and I'm
curious to hear what people think.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Again, as long as you are one hundred percent certain,
and I trust Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and I
trust Pete hag Seth. What you don't want to have
happen here is some families out on a jet boat
and the US just reiins down holy hell on them.
And this is where I think the media deserves fair criticism.
(30:47):
You've talked about this before, Buck Obama just took out
an American citizen. Uh, and almost nobody even talks about
a sixteen year old with a drone, and then they show, oh,
it's classified, nobody can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
He blew up a sixteen year old. It was Alaki's son.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but you know in DC, sixteen year old murderers
can't go to prison for more than five years.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But in this context under Obama, he just blew them up.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
This is where I think a lot of you guys
and gals are gonna learn. Everybody out there that's like, oh,
I'm afraid of the FBI knocking on my door. I
think over the next generation, it's not going to be
somebody driving by your house and spraying guns in your
front window. People are going to start to use drones
(31:38):
for targeted criminal hits. And if you look, I mean look,
military technology eventually filters its way down to the general public.
Often in some context. Look at the way Israel took
out all these Iranian scientists. I mean, it's really very
remarkable technologically. You'll see the whole building in Tehran still standing,
and they went in the side of a wall and
(32:00):
executed as scientist and the rest of the building was fine.
You don't think and most people don't. Hey, one day
somebody's just gonna set a drone off and try to
kill me. I'm telling you, in the next generation, this
is gonna be something that we really have to have
real conversations about.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know, the cartels are innovators in this. Yes, just
to be clear, they've been doing this for a while.
The Cartels have been using very basic commercial drones to
drop grenades, to drop it, and they've been doing it
for a decade. So this is going back quite some time.
And yeah, I think eventually, Clay, You're right, you will
see drive by at some point will turn into drone by.
(32:40):
That will happen.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I look out, look, I'm just saying, the technology here
is such that you're not even gonna have people committing
violent acts against you physically present. They're gonna be using
technology to use it against you. And that's my thoughts.
When I will watch this video, I guarantee you every
drug dealer in America and around the world trying to
(33:06):
get drugs to America is going to watch that video.
What'll be interesting is will it change behavior in any
way or is the incentive structure the money they make
so significant that they're going to continue to take these risks.
And I want to tell you I just came back.
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Oh, welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis n.
Buck Sexton Show. We started late this week because we
had Monday off. I'm glad I got the day right.
That's always a challenge when you used to doing daily radio.
So high five to me on that one. Boom we got,
you know what I mean, you got to take the
wins where you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Can get up.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I whif on that, you know, probably every three months
or so. So it's a good start.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Happens to the best of us. But I got it today,
so that's good.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We got Trump speaking to everybody all across this nation
right now from the Oval Office alive. He is with
the the premiere of Poland, and they are Poland, a
very staunch usilly, great country in Europe. We will bring
you anything that is pressing, breaking important from that conversation.
(00:48):
We have a few things to talk about today that
happened right after the show yesterday. You know, you had
Chicago Mayor Johnson. We're going to get to that in
a second here and Trump going back and forth over
whether there should be some kind of assistance to deal
with crime in the city of Chicago. Trump has said
(01:12):
we're going in. He has made this very clear that
there is going to be some additional action with law
enforcement to try using the federal government's resources to try
to bring the crime situation more under control there.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
This was also interesting, Clay.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think we should talk about it a bit because
I believe it's a signal of things to come. There
was a lethal strike, so a kinetic strike on a
outside of Venezuela in the Caribbean, but I think it
was a Venezuelan ship was carrying drugs, and we didn't
(01:50):
send the Coastguard or the Navy to arrest them.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
We blew it up.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Now they were designated narco terrorists, so this is under
presidential authority. But that is a clear escalation in the
war on the cartels and the war on the fentanyl
poisoning of the American people. And I think it's just
the beginning of what's going to be ramping up considerably.
And our sources in DC have been telling us to
(02:16):
expect this for quite some time, and from this administration,
we have been hearing that it's just a matter of
time before this becomes a bigger fight, and we're taking
a different approach to dealing with these cartel It's going
to treat them like true global narco terrorists instead of
some kind of INTERPOL international law enforcement only issue. So
(02:39):
we got a few things to update you on with
all of that. Oh, and then also a nice video
with a happy ending of a boy who went to
Chick fil A. He was five years old. He would
Clay share this out. It's going viral. I saw this.
He went to Chick fil A. He could not resist
those waffle fries, first thing in the morning, five years old,
let himself out of house, unlocked the door. It's so
(03:01):
he's fine, he's back with his parents. I'm sure he's
never gonna do this again. But there's some funny video.
We can talk about that in a bit. If you
were five years old, would Chick fil A b the
fast food place you would break out of your home
to get to first thing in the morning. Probably it's
I'm forty six years old, and if I broke out
of prison, the first place i'd go probably us to
get a Chick fil A sandwich. So I empathize with
the young man intensely. Now let's just update this on
(03:26):
Trump and Chicago because the governor, Governor Pritzker, Remember this
is a national story for a whole bunch of reasons.
Governor Pritzker wants to position himself as a Democrat presidential candidate.
Trump and Pritzker are exchanging words in the media. Brandon Johnson,
the mayor of Chicago, very much a man of the left.
He is going after Donald Trump aggressively on this issue.
(03:47):
Here's what Trump says about it. This was just yesterday
after we got off air. Play this has cut four
play it.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, we're going in. I didn't say when we're going in.
When you lose. Look, I have an obligation. This isn't
a political thing. I have an obligation when we lose.
When twenty people are killed over the last two and
a half weeks, and seventy five are shot with bullets.
So let me tell you a little story about a
place called DC District of Columbia. Right here where we are.
(04:16):
It's now a safe zone. We have no crime. We
have it's in such great shape. You can go and
actually walk with your children, your wife, your husband. You
can walk right down the middle of the street. You're
not going to be shot. Peter, You're safe.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Trump says he's going in Clay, going into Chicago. We
don't know when, but he says it's happening, So I
take him at his word. What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think it's the right move, and I think this
speaks to Trump's intuitive political gifts to not only do
what's correct, but also to do things that substantial majorities
of Americans agree with. And we'll talk, I imagine, for the
next several months about this, because the fall story so far,
(04:58):
and I know we just officially have got past Labor
Day and all of you out there that are calendar
officionados who want to say the first official day of
falls not till September twenty first, Okay, I think the
number one story of the fall is going to be
Trump waging war on violent crime. And I think that
is a phenomenal battleground for Trump to decide to focus on.
(05:22):
We said, economy, border crime. I think you're with me
that the economy is starting to fire on all cylinders
and that by the time we get through into next
year and the full impact of the tax cuts and
the accounting changes and all the other aspects, interest rates
coming down starting in September, there's going to be some
(05:44):
jet fuel poured into this economic situation. We're going to
be going really well, borders completely shut down, and Buck
they really haven't been able to turn deportations into a
real major issue. I think they made a poor decision
to use kill mar Brio Garcia as the front facing guy.
The other part is crime, and I think the data
(06:05):
from DC is going to increasingly show something that all
of you know to be true, which is when you
deploy more people to try to stop crime, crime goes down.
I mean, this is not a revolutionary idea. There's a
big article in the Wall Street Journal editorial page I
was reading this morning. It said, Hey, we know how
to stop crime. It's to put more police on the streets.
(06:26):
You had a great tweet which I think is one
hundred percent right the number of body cams. I think
this kid going to the Chick fil A is a
great example of it. We see it through the purview
of the officer on his bodycam. They are showing you
that the vast, vast majority of police officers every day
are phenomenal at their jobs, and most of what they
(06:49):
have to deal with is actually people being jerks to them,
not them being jerks to people.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
And so I think.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You are seeing the police force, which for most of
American life we have tended to have a positive view of.
Starting around twenty twenty, the idea was suddenly you couldn't
have paw patrol, have a police character. Cops got taken
off the air. I think it's worth remembering where we were.
We have now cycled back to where we spent most
(07:19):
of our time, which is most cops, the vast, vast majority,
do a phenomenal job making us safer. We should have
more of them, not less of them. We should let
them do their jobs, and we should support them. Not
that they're perfect. They are going to be imperfect because
they are human, but by and large, they are every
single day putting their lives on the line to make
us all safer. And I think that's where the nation is,
(07:42):
That's where Trump is, and all that's moving in a
very positive direction.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And he said we're going in. On the other hand
of this, you have Mayor Brandon Johnson, and what he
wants to talk about is that red states have a
violence problem. He wants to make this national and explicitly partisan.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
This is cut eight.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Here is the one of the worst mayors in the country,
perhaps the worst mayor.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Tough their stiff competition. But here he is cut eight play.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
The vast majority of guns do not come from Chicago.
They are not made in Cook County. They are not
bought in the state of Illinois. These guns come from
Red states. They are coming from Indiana, they are coming
from Mississippi, they are coming from Louisiana. That is the
harsh reality. Whether Republicans like it or not, occupying our
city will do nothing to solve this problem. No matter
(08:34):
how much work we do or how hard we work,
none of it will ever be enough until the President
decides to end the match trafficking of guns in our city.
For every gun that the Chicago Police Department fights to
get off the streets, two or three more new guns
come into our city. Chicago will continue to have a
violence problem as long as Red states continue to have
(08:55):
a gun problem.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
This is a total deflection. It's a frivolous argument, it's absurd,
and it just shows you, Clay that we're not in
a two sides are arguing about how to get to
the same goal situation we're in a Trump is saying,
let's do something that is almost certain to work, and
perhaps work substantially. I think it would work substantially and
(09:21):
on the other side of somebody who says, let's just
talk about some alternate reality where there aren't a few
hundred million guns already in circulation in this country and
criminals will find a way to get them illegally or legally,
one way or another.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I live in a red state. I live in one
of the reddest counties in the country. Buck, you have
been to my neighborhood. I bet the average home in
my neighborhood has more guns than by far most homes
and communities in America. I might be rookie numbers with
my guns here compared to what you got going up
(09:54):
there in Franklin County. That's fair in Williamson County, Franklin, Tennessee.
Do you know what the violent crime is here?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Buck?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Basically zero? So I don't want to hear the argument, oh,
red states have too many guns and that's causing crimes.
Crimes are caused by people who commit violent crimes. Sometimes
they use weapons, yes, but the idea gun ownership has
skyrocketed since twenty twenty in America. There are tons of
(10:24):
you out there right now listening to us who may
not have been gun people. And when you saw the
riots happening, and you saw people unable to drive through communities.
A lot of you got guns, Buck, I went to
Vanderbilt Law school. As many of you know, there are
a lot of girls for my class, girls.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That you would never think are.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Carrying guns that live in Red States and in their
cute little purses on their way into work every day,
they are carrying handguns in their purses. All over Red States.
The number of guns has skyrocketed. Crime crime has actually
started to go down now that we let police officers
(11:04):
do their job, So there's more guns on the street,
lower crime. And look, I really think people like Brandon
Johnson should have to really be held their feet to
the fire on these awful arguments that they're making because
it is not guns that is causing the issue in Chicago.
There are tons of people all over southern Illinois listening
(11:25):
to us right now who have entire gun safes on
their property. Violent crime rate very low in rural Illinois.
By and large. It is people who are criminals committing crimes.
The way to get criminals to not commit crimes is
to put them behind bars. It's not to claim that
Red State guns are causing crime in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
These arguments are getting embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Frankly, Also, what's more likely a focus if you're the
mayor of a city, in this case the city of Chicago,
what's more likely you're going to find way to address
a problem in your city, or you're going to wait
for the rest of the nation to fundamentally change, including
changing the United States Constitution and then also alter the
(12:12):
society you live in in a massive way. I mean,
you've got I don't even the latest numbers, probably eighty
to one hundred million people who have firearms in this country.
So the idea is what he says, stop the illegal
flow of guns. If it's illegal to buy the gun,
we already have laws and say don't do it. But
people who want to shoot people because they want to
(12:32):
sell drugs on the South or West side of Chicago
don't care what the law says about guns. And all
that it does is make it impossible for people like
you and me and your friends from Vanderburgh Law School
to lawfully enjoy our Second Amendment rights to defend ourselves
and also to be a check on tyranny.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Which I will have this argument with anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
After what we saw from the lib authoritarian democrats during
I have never been more set on the need for
as many good American citizens as possible to keep in
bare arms. I mean I was already pro two A,
but now I'm like, I think everybody. I think everybody
should should have at least off firearm they know how
to use in their home.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Laura Travis is going to have an absolute arsenal Buck.
You're going to be impressed. We're building a house. I
think she could overthrow some countries with the amount of
weapons that she's going to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I have no doubt ordering for the house. I have
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
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but also non lethal is critical because in so many
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out out with us. By the way,
we're gonna hit you with some of the news that
is coming out from the meeting that the President is
having right now in the Oval Office with the Is
it the Prime Minister of Poland?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
The president of Poland?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Here he was just asked Trump was his message for
Putin and and how things are going in the Ukraine
Russia attempt at peace? Here was cut thirty one.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I have no message to President Putin. He knows where
I stand, and you'll make a decision one way or
the other. Whatever his decision is, will either be happy
about it or unhappy. And if we're unhappy about it,
you'll see. Thanks, Sam.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I thought you just heard that was legitimately what the
President just said last night?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Was it last night?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think he sent out.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
A truth message saying, in response to the meeting that
is going on between North Korea and UH and China
and Russia, hey, basically, look out while you're conspiring against us,
we are paying attention and aware of what you are
doing there. And I think a lot of people who
(16:12):
are in this position of expecting Trump to have gone
easy on Russia, we all know the Russia Russia Russia hoax,
as Trump says, the collusion lies everything else. Buck, you
were in the center of that more than almost anybody.
I actually think Trump's public statements to Putin have been
(16:33):
pretty darn aggressive, and it's been very difficult for anybody
to even try to make the argument, Oh, this guy's
still the Manchurian candidate. Not to say people aren't trying,
but it's been very difficult to be able to make
that argument Legitimately.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
We'll see what we'll see means when he says Putin's
going to make a decision here. Look, I think there's
some disappointment and frustration from the White House so far,
there has to be. Trump really made a good faith
effort to try to broker the end of a war
that he views as just in everyone's interest right to
end this thing and get it done. Putin's a nasty guy,
(17:13):
and he thinks that he still has the advantage and
there's no screws to tighten on him to change things
right now, or at least not. He hasn't seen enough
of that, so he's going to continue to try to
just chip away at the Ukrainian territory and get he
thinks a better deal in the end. I mean, eventually
this war will end. But as some of us saw
from the beginning. It'll cost a trillion dollars, it will
(17:33):
take many years, and a lot of people are going
to die, and it's just a shame that there's no
way to get it done yesterday, so to speak. I
wish that Trump was successful, and I wish everybody was
rooting for him to be successful in this too. I
know that doesn't really matter. All that matters is the
end result, Clay, but come on, the people that were
hoping Trump would fail it was gross.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
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All right, So some big things happened yesterday. There was
a lot of news to talk about during the show.
But then, as occasionally goes on, right after we went
off the air doing our life for three hours of programming,
some other stuff went down.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And this one was notable. And there are visual aids
if you will, there are there's video of this. It's
the first time that I'm aware of that this has
happened in this in this way. I'm im I was
expecting there'd be an escalation against the cartels. I'll say
(19:28):
that I didn't know it would get to this level
this quickly.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
And here's what we here's what we have.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
We've got a boat that well here actually Trump announced this,
so let's let's hear from the President. Yeah, cup one play.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
That we just over the last few minutes literally shout
out a boat, a drug carrying boat, A lot of
drugs in that boat, and you'll be seeing that and
you'll be reading about that. It just tappened moments ago.
And our great General, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
who has been so incredible, including what took place in Iran,
knocking out potential nuclear power for a long time to come.
(20:06):
I think within a month they would have had it.
We didn't do what we did, but he gave us
a little bit of a briefing and you'll see, and
there's more where that came from. We have a lot
of drugs pouring into our country, coming in for a
long time, and we just these came out of Venezuela
and coming out very heavily from Venezuela. A lot of
things are coming out of Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So we took it out, Okay, Clay, So they put
the video out there. It's now circulating widely on the internet.
And you have essentially a speedboat that is that is
going along. There's you can tell there's a bunch of
individuals in this boat. Look, I think it's a go
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fast boat and then it gets hit.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
With a missile and it and and it is pardon me,
that was a different clip.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It got hit with a missile, and it is a
situation where there is now lethal force being used against
the cartels.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Look, I watched this video yesterday afternoon when it came out,
and there was a I give credit to New York Times,
although it's always a little bit suspect when you're writing
a behind the scenes piece on the fentanyl trade. Did
you see this piece? This was a few weeks ago.
They went and basically rode along with someone bringing fentanyl
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from Mexico into the United States. The entire process, how
they were called ahead, who was bought off, which streets
they could go on, routes. I mean, it's incredibly organized,
and basically the guy that was doing the driving was
making the decision, Hey, this is life changing money for
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my family. He was getting tens of thousands of dollars
and he decided that he was willing to take the
risk that he might get caught.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He did not.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
He got in, got in through the border, or drove
in through the car. The whole article was about the
different ways that they store the drugs, where they put
them in cars, how they remake them. I mean, it
is a massive undertaking that they have put in place.
When I watched us blow up that boat, I had
two thoughts. One, every single narco terrorist in America is
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going to see this footage, every single one of them,
and it is going to change the calculus in their
mind of if I get caught, I'm going to prison
for several years. Two, I might get blown up and
never know that I am even in danger of getting
blown up because of United States technology.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was my first thought. My second thought was, boy,
we better get this right because nobody talked about it,
but we've talked about it on this program.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Joe Biden just blew up a dad, this whole family
in Afghanistan. After the attack on Abby Gate, the thirteen
Marines who were killed, they decided, hey, we're going to
get back.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And they found the wrong guy and he was driving
home with water in the trunk of his car, and
they blew up the whole house and killed.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
The whole family.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Well, well, they blew up the car, right, so, but
it also killed the family like he blew up when
he pulled into the garage or the house in Afghanistan.
The difference that you could argue with that, Obviously it
was a is a horrible mistake and a number of
people died as a result of it. But the difference
that you had with that was you had the possibility
(23:45):
of imminent threat, meaning they believe that that was a
SVBIED suicide vehicle born improvised explosive device. They thought that's
now they were very wrong and they should have and
the whole thing. Biden and you know, Pentagon still looking
at this now, the withdrawal. It was a mess. We
lost marines. It's there was clearly a lot that went
(24:07):
terribly wrong. But from a law of war perspective, it's
one thing to say I thought this had an explosive
in it and was going to kill our people, right,
That's that's one It's.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
The risks assessment of that is if it happens is awful.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Under rules of engagement, that's an imminent immediate threat situation.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The mistake is what made it whore.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
If that had been an SVB i D, we'd be saying,
great work, brilliant, that it would be brilliant.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Nobody would question.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That A boat full of drugs. Now, I understand people
are going to say a few things about this. They're
going to say, designated a narco terrorists for Trenda Aragua. Yes,
they're going to say that the cartels and these are
all fair and accurate points, to be clear, but I'm
just letting this out. They're going to say that cartels
(24:59):
are a clear and present danger like the movie, but
the Clartellis pose a clear and present danger to the
American people because of the I think it went down
under one hundred thousand recently, but it's roughly one hundred
thousand people you're dying from drug overdoses. And also to
add to this, it's not just the drug overdoses, it's
the drug addiction, which leads to criminality and shootings and violence.
(25:21):
I mean, it is the mass poisoning of society. Yes,
and let me also add this. A lot of people who,
and this is awful, are dying of drug overdoses did
not even consent to take drugs that they thought were
potentially said that's right, they're poisoning. Right, they're being poisoned
because you're thinking, hey, and look, I want everybody's kids
(25:43):
to be careful on this. But you're thinking, hey, I'm
taking a party drug and it's lace with fentanyl and
the next thing you know, you're dead. You don't you're
not even agreeing to the risk associated. These are not
necessarily even drug addicts. So I do think the poisoning
element here doesn't get talked about it enough.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
One of this has been going on for a while.
One of the most.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Stark moments in a conversation I was having the first
Trump administration with the then acting Attorney General was on
this issue, Clay at the OJ, and I spoke to
some of the just to get a sense of what's
going on. Some of the DOJ officials focusing in on this,
specifically on the fentanyl and the cartels. Then they said
(26:24):
that they were making they imprint the pills intentionally to
look like pharmaceutical pills because they know that the end
based customer is going to say, oh, I'm taking like
a benzo or some kind of a drug that can
produce a high. They don't realize they're taking fentanyl or
car fentanyl or heaven knows what in this pill, and
(26:44):
that kills people. Right. This is where the quote hot
batch issue comes up. That's what they call it okay,
but it's not an imminence, meaning this boat is not
about to kill a thousand people in the next few minutes.
This boat is capable of being arrested and are you
stopped and then the people in it being arrested. But
(27:07):
to your point, Trump administrations decided they're designated, they're terrorists,
they're killing Americans. Enough is enough. But this is war tactic,
this is not criminal justice tactic.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I would also point out this is law of the jungle. Yeah,
we off air. I said, this is shiving somebody in
a line at a prison. You are basically sending a
message that is very public by the choice that you're making. Also,
I think this is directly connected to Maduro in Venezuela.
(27:41):
I think they want Maduro to know you are potentially next,
and I think they are letting him know that using
Venezuela as a narco terror state is not going to
be permitted. And so ultimately I think that they chose
this location to blow up that boat because they want Maduro.
(28:05):
Remember again not talked about a ton. Venezuela seized billions
of dollars in American company assets. I think primarily Chevron.
If I'm if I'm remembering my reading on this correctly
and took it over for the state. And they have
and this is one of the biggest oil producing states
(28:26):
in the world. And Maduro is an illegitimate leader and
he's taken over huge assets of American companies. I think
we want Maduro out and I think we are slowly
screwing tightening the screws on Maduro.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So Maduro, and I always tell people this because I
think it really Maduro himself is considered not just the
head of the Venezuelan state. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator,
but he's the head of a cartel. He's a He
himself the actual premier, the actual leader of Venezuela is
officially by the United States Trench Deepartment A designated narco
(29:02):
trafficker and running it. And now what you see is
that this is and this is why people talk about
Venezuela as a failed state and so sad because it
got to this state. Don't ever forget this. It got
to this position because of socialism, because of redistribution of wealth,
because of envy, because of all these things that unfortunately,
(29:23):
this virus that continues to make its way yes through
Latin America, but also into this country at different times
where if only you know, the rich get rinsed more,
everything will be better for everybody else but Clay. This
is how the Venezuelan elites, even with all the problems
they have, and I mean the true elites, the people
running the country, are funding their lifestyles and also staying
(29:44):
in power because they are generating huge amounts of cash
through selling drugs to America.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
They're killing people.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
This is it's very Tom Clancy circa nineteen you know,
nineteen ninety. I mean, this is a moment where you're
seeing the United States government is taking the threat of
the cartels as more of a nation state level nons
or sorry, a nation state level terror sponsor threat. And
that is a whole other thing. And we haven't even
(30:14):
talked about what this could mean for the cartels in Mexico.
We're focused right now on Venezuela. I totally and I'm
curious to hear what people think.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Again, as long as you are one hundred percent certain,
and I trust Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and I
trust Pete hag Seth. What you don't want to have
happen here is some families out on a jet boat
and the US just reiins down holy hell on them.
And this is where I think the media deserves fair criticism.
(30:47):
You've talked about this before, Buck Obama just took out
an American citizen. Uh, and almost nobody even talks about
a sixteen year old with a drone, and then they show, oh,
it's classified, nobody can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
He blew up a sixteen year old. It was Alaki's son.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, but you know in DC, sixteen year old murderers
can't go to prison for more than five years.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But in this context under Obama, he just blew them up.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
This is where I think a lot of you guys
and gals are gonna learn. Everybody out there that's like, oh,
I'm afraid of the FBI knocking on my door. I
think over the next generation, it's not going to be
somebody driving by your house and spraying guns in your
front window. People are going to start to use drones
(31:38):
for targeted criminal hits. And if you look, I mean look,
military technology eventually filters its way down to the general public.
Often in some context. Look at the way Israel took
out all these Iranian scientists. I mean, it's really very
remarkable technologically. You'll see the whole building in Tehran still standing,
and they went in the side of a wall and
(32:00):
executed as scientist and the rest of the building was fine.
You don't think and most people don't. Hey, one day
somebody's just gonna set a drone off and try to
kill me. I'm telling you, in the next generation, this
is gonna be something that we really have to have
real conversations about.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know, the cartels are innovators in this. Yes, just
to be clear, they've been doing this for a while.
The Cartels have been using very basic commercial drones to
drop grenades, to drop it, and they've been doing it
for a decade. So this is going back quite some time.
And yeah, I think eventually, Clay, You're right, you will
see drive by at some point will turn into drone by.
(32:40):
That will happen.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I look out, look, I'm just saying, the technology here
is such that you're not even gonna have people committing
violent acts against you physically present. They're gonna be using
technology to use it against you. And that's my thoughts.
When I will watch this video, I guarantee you every
drug dealer in America and around the world trying to
(33:06):
get drugs to America is going to watch that video.
What'll be interesting is will it change behavior in any
way or is the incentive structure the money they make
so significant that they're going to continue to take these risks.
And I want to tell you I just came back.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
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