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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we are
rolling through what promises to be a very significant overall
week of action.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Buck. In particular, we are.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Soon going to have a mayor elected in New York
City who it looks like is going to be basically
a communist. We also are having big elections in Virginia
and in New Jersey up and down the ballot. This
is going to be a week of massive impact across
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the country, the first election that we have seen since
Trump was elected almost exactly one year ago. And I'm
up in New York City, Buck, your hometown, And I
was out to dinner last night and by my self
in the hotel, as one does.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And my waitress came up and she is a huge
fan of the program, and she said, I listened to
you and Buck all the time. She said, do you
really believe that New York City is going to elect
this crazy Marxist? And I said, unfortunately, yes, Uh. And
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so Suzette, if you are listening, thank you for doing
a great job being my waitress last night. I am sorry,
but this is the reality I think of where we
are headed and the numbers out there. We're going to
talk with Mark Simone, R WO R buddy, He's going
to come in studio with me, and then we're going
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to talk with the guy running for governor in New Jersey,
Frank Chitdarelli, right, Jack Jack Chittarelli, right before the election
actually takes place.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And he may win.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
To be clear, Jack Jack is Chitderelli is in very
close contention here. There's a very serious possibility that Chitarelli
is going to be able to pull this out last minute,
So that definitely matters.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, look, I mean he is going to be the
guy who is the most likely to win now up
and down ballot. Remember, still in Virginia, we got Jason Miarez,
who is the attorney general candidate. We've got a lieutenant
governor's race, and so there are a lot of different
aspects of this that are at play.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But this is the.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
First real verdict on Trump two point zero we've gotten. Now,
keep in mind, this is a situation where we are
dealing with a state New Jersey that voted for Kamala
by roughly five We are in Virginia, a state that
voted for Kamala by roughly five as well, and certainly
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in New York City, we are talking about a jurist
that is overwhelmingly of featuring Democrat voters. And in fact, Buck,
I flagged this because as we were as I was
doing my prep this morning, this is the final New
York City early voting breakdown by party. Huge numbers, and
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what maybe we need to get our guy Gerdusky on
again because I saw him tweet that this might be
the most votes that have ever been cast for mayor
in New York City based on the early voting numbers
that are out. But I don't know if you saw this, Buck.
Here was the data final New York City early voting
party breakdown. Democrat voters five hundred and forty thousand, six
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hundred and seventy one that was right at seventy four
percent of the overall votes cast early. Other that is
somebody from another political party one hundred and six thou
two hundred and one, fourteen point five percent. Republican voters
eighty five thousand, nine hundred and ninety four right around
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twelve percent of the overall electric So I know what.
People out there are still bad at me in the
New York area, probably gonna meet some of you that
are Democrats showed up in big numbers. There are not
enough Republican voters. I would love to be wrong. And
where my Curtis Sliwa, Red Beret Buck You've been telling
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people for some time. I think, unfortunately, what we're gonna
see when we wake up on Wednesday or late on
Tuesday night is Mam Donnie's not gonna win the majority.
Maybe he will, but I don't think he is. And
the anti Mamdanni vote is going to be split between
Cuomo and Uh and Sliwa. And that's the thing we've
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been worried about from the get go.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, man, this is where we are where we thought
we'd be.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
So unfortunately it's playing out pretty much as expected.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
H some other interesting things just put on the radar.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
We have the the span Burger looking like a likely win,
but really the margin is going to determine whether or
not Miaraz gets through as the attorney general there in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Mam Donnie.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
If Mom Donnie does not win the mayor's race in
New York at this point, it would be the craziest
widest margin upset of the data that I think I've
ever seen people keep saying, what about Trump in twenty sixteen?
The miscalculation in twenty sixteen, which was considerable, but it
was everything that's close will go to Hillary, right, I mean,
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it's if it was within two or three points, Hillary
clearly has it. Everyone just assumed. No one was saying
Hillary was gonna win by thirty points. Okay, that's a
different that's a different thing. Although I saw Clay you
shared that Polster and Seltzer shared her her her Kamala
up three to then lose by thirteen in Iowa, yesh,
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which was a pretty remarkable. That that's I mean, that's career.
Just to be clear, that's a career ending poll.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Miss right. She said, you know what, I think I'm
done here and she.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Literally retired after getting a poll wrong by sixteen points.
She walked off with the worst performance of her entire
career as a Polster. Yeah, instead of a walk off
home run, it's like a walk off after the bat
slips out of her hands and knocks out the ball
boy in the dugout.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It wasn't good.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, I just I can't even imagine what that felt
like for her, as all those results came in. Maybe
we should grab that audio. I don't know if we
had it. Do we have MSNBC exulting for that poll
coming out.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
To find it. We'll find it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean they were desperate. Obviously they were desperate. But anyway,
we're getting a little desperate here for New York City.
We're hoping something good comes out of this. With the
best possible likely situation. Now, people are gonna say, to
be fair Clay, a lot of Republicans are going to
show up on election day. I mean, you'd have to
have like three times as many Republicans show up on
election day as anyone has ever seen registered in the
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City of New York and voting for sleep. But you know, maybe,
you know, maybe okay, we'll do the maybe okay situation here.
Get out there, vote for Slie, will vote for Cuomo,
do whatever you gotta do. Just don't vote for from Mandami,
for heaven's sakes. So that's gonna be a close one.
They have deployed Obama, which I just think is such
an interesting commentary Clay on where the Democrat Party is
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right now. Obama is still the closer to them. Obama
is the guy that they think is able to push
people over the line. What's fascinating about that is Barack Obama. Yes,
he won to wide margin presidential elections for himself from
when he came into the Democrat Party to when he
left as president. I think they went from like fifty
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nine Senate seats down to you know, they lost like
ten Senate seats or something. They lost fifty seats in
the House, and they lost dozens of governors mansions. It
was actually a disaster for the Democrats the reign of
Obama other than Obama winning. But they still think that
he somehow has the magic touch here at the very end,
that he's gonna get it all through. The Trump sixty
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minutes interview was also quite interesting. Now there's the hour
long version. Clay, they do what you say to do, Amen.
This is something that I think is good.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well everybody what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, this is something that I think is going to
actually long extend past Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Stop editing interviews.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean, I'd love live radio, I love live television
because they can't edit anything. Trump talked to sixty minutes
for seventy two minutes. I believe that's a long time.
But post the whole thing, let me actually have the opportunity.
And I would also post the full transcript for people
(08:46):
that would rather read than watch. Make everything that you
produce actually visible, and instead of cutting and deciding what
you think is newsworthy, give us every I got on
this for a long time from the law background. I
want to read the transcript myself. And so this is
a legacy. I think of the settlement that Trump got
(09:09):
from sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well, you've been saying, and this I've always agreed with you.
When Clay has a good idea, I say he has
a good idea, which is that if you're going to
sit with hostile media and Trump we all know who
that is, you have to have your own copy of it. Yes, absolutely,
they edit it to crush you in unfair ways. O.
This was actually really the technique that The Daily Show
(09:34):
with John Stewart. I know people say, oh, it's comedy, yeah,
but it was actually just propaganda with jokes.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They would take these interviews, and especially if they had
a Republican or somebody who was considered on the right,
and they would splice it up to make the person
look like an abject moron. And what people have been
realized was, well they've spliced it so much that you're
not even they're not even giving the answer to the
question he gave. They're putting in pauses. But because it
was com they were allowed to fabricate whatever they wanted.
(10:03):
But everyone thought, oh, well, this is how the interview went.
The audience didn't think they're cutting this to make the
pause five seconds instead of Remember, Katie Kirk got annihilated
once because she did this thing when she was interviewing
people who were pro gun. I don't know if you
remember this, Clay, she tried to do some documentary. This
is when like no one cared who Katie Kirk was anymore.
She left the corporate media. I think she was like
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a post Yahoo era and they edited it in so
all these people in this panel, you know, just everyday
Americans who were pro gunn She said, well, you know,
why do you think the second Amendments important? That wasn't
The question was something like that, and they did the
whole long, pregnant pause and then they just moved on
to something else. The real video, the guy jumps in,
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he's like, because I believe it's a defense against terran
and it was just like he had an eight plus answer,
but it was just propaganda. That's why Trump has an
hour version of this sixty minutes interview, and why they
can't play the same games they used to, because not
only do they have it play, they put it out
so you can watch the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think this is also why legacy media is losing
overall value, because the hypocrisy is way easier to cut
and display side by side, and we've got some examples
of that for you. And so their editorial power, and
we've talked about this for years on the program. The
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power isn't so much what they say, it's how they
choose what a story is. And when you have to
post the full transcript, you lose the power of saying
this is what matters from this particular interview. And I
don't begrudge Trump at all for doing these interviews. I
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actually think this may be a positive take. I don't
know if you would subscribe to it. The power of
live is surging live. We are live with you every
day for three hours, unfiltered. If you look, you know
we had a Game seven in the World World Series.
Congratulations to the La Dodgers out there. Buck it set
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a Saturday night viewing record for sports going all the
way back to nineteen ninety six. People are craving. I
think in this social media era we live in authenticity
and live. You can't fake for better or worse, big events.
People still they want to get around and talk with
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their friends and family about something that we shared from
a communal experience. And it's great to watch a streaming
series on Netflix or Paramount or Amazon or whatever the
heck it is, but everybody watches it in different times,
which is why when you talk about your favorite show
you might have to say what season are you in.
(12:49):
There's a craving I think for live and so I
would argue that sixty Minutes should be doing a live
interview version of the program where they say, Hey, we're
going to sit for sixty minutes straight and we're going
to talk with somebody.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
It makes the anchors nervous because they are then on
the hook, right. Their questions have to be good. You
can't fake it. But I think this is one of
the legacies that we're going to see going forward of
the impact well.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I also think it was funny because some of the
commentary around Nora O'Donnell she knows that they have a
copy of this too, and she knows she's dealing with Trump.
Her audience primarily wants her to go in there and
challenge him. Oh, go after him, and it's it. But
she's not an idiot. I mean, well maybe she's not
(13:40):
that smart, but she knows that she has to actually
play by the set of rules. Now that the interaction
is the interaction, You're not going to have this post
edit cleanup situation where if Trump kicks your butt.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I mean, I'll never forget. I think I told you Clay.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Brian Stelter had me on the debate why I thought
somebody was a Geehattis once on his and he got
absolutely smoked, and they just never aired it.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, just never.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They just pretend like it didn't and the producers this
with CNN, the producers didn't even pretend like there was
some reasons like yeah, we just decided that we're never
airing that. So if they can do that, right right,
He was like, why do you know that there about Jettis.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It was the CIA kind of terrorism center and the
guy was yelling at lock walck Bar like he got
his ass kicked, and they didn't want to hear it
the same kind of thing though, And see if she
has a bad exchange with Trump, it's going to be
out there even if they don't choose to highlight it.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
So that's why she has to mind her p's and
q's a little bit. She has to be a little
more respectful and deferential because if she comes at him
and he slats her down, with which we know he
can do.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, none.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I think I think it's going to outlive the Trump
presidency in a big way. And I actually think it's
a very good positive. So we'll talk some about that.
Sixty minutes interview again, we're talking a lot about the
New York City mayor's race and the double races in
Virginia and New Jersey taking place tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
All all of you, go vote.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Nothing that we should ever say or do on this
program should strip away that number one thing.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Go vote right.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I voted for Miami Beach mayor and a bunch of
local commissioners on Friday. Okay, if I can vote for
the mayor of Miami Beach, you can.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I went to go vote bank for the Franklin Alderman
the Franklin, Tennessee Alderman.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Race last week. So go vote, go vote, go vote
that guy.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
That guy's you know, probably focusing on the same issues
as like the local country club. There have been ladies
with crop tops by the pool.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Unacceptable, kids are playing their music too loud in the streets.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
These are the things little Different deal out in Franklin,
all right.
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Welcome back into Play and Buck day before election day,
and we are followed all very closely to be sure
that that big man race in New York with Mamdani.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
For any of saying, well, it's just New York City.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's the biggest by population and the most important financial
center still on the planet, I think it matters if
the mayor of eight point five million people in New
York is a essentially a communist. I mean we can
say socialist. I love to point this out. So he's
not a communist, play he's a socialist. The original communists
call themselves socialists, So can we stop with these word
games that people are saying, and also the actual communists
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out there in the world and you look at China,
the Chinese Communist Party in some ways acts like you know,
hyper mercantilists. So it's not really a definitional thing. Okay,
the guy is spiritually a commune. And then you have
the other Democrats running, the woman who's running and in
New Jersey, is it Mikey Cheryl, right, Mikey Cheryl.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
That's right?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And then I've heard people say it different ways. And
then also span Berger like the two most boring establishment
female Democrat candidates imaginable, just hoping to lurch across the
finish line here at the end. Well, we're gonna do
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Today, welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton. All right,
we got a lot that we are tracking. News that
just broke in the last few minutes.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Nancy Pelosi has announced that she is officially retiring. She
is not going to seek reelection. She is hanging it
up at eighty five years old, and there will be
a eighty five, yes, eighty five five, eighty five years old.
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Nancy Pelosi is hanging it up, so she will be.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
She'll be out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So Trump is going to outlast Nancy Pelosi, one of
his top foes, and she will retire next year and
that will be interesting, too interesting to see. All right,
A couple of other things that are out there. I
mentioned this Yesterday was the one year anniversary of the
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Ann Seltzer poll where she had Kamala winning Iowa by
three points. Of course, unfortunately for Kamala, she ended up
losing by thirteen points in Iowa and losing all seven
battleground states. But this is Rachel Maddow one year ago
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and a day buck gleefully celebrating, Oh my goodness, it
looks like everyone is surging towards Kamala. This is MSNBC
basically one year ago.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
You have seen Ann Seltzer basically as a living fullseye,
and that's why lots of people had strong reactions when
the Des Moines Register ann Selzer Iowa poll was posted
last night. This is that poll, and it is a
shock result. It shows Kamala Harris ahead of Donald Trump
by three points in Iowa. And the reason this is
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consequential to our psyche is that if this is accurate,
and if anybody is accurate, it's likely to be Anne
Seltzer in the Iowa poll. If this is accurate, this
implies that Harris might be winning Iowa three points. Granted,
it's within the margin of error. Here, but it's three points.
Iowa is a state where neither campaign has spent any
time or resources since the primaries. They don't have a
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ground game there, they don't have ads up there. Trump
won Iowa by eight points last time and nine points
the time before that. Nobody thinks of it as a
swing state. A Democratic presidential candidate hasn't won Iowa since
Barack Obama in twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh, that's fun, buck, And that she would be that
far off is, like you said, a really tough way
for an Seltzer to ride off into the sunset. But
that is where we were basically one year ago, Democrats
watching MSNBC. And you may remember some in your family
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who sent you that poll and said, your boy Trump's
in trouble. Not so much. Nope, not in fact the case.
But this is not to say that we think that
there's going to be a massive Republican upset tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We will see.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
By the way, there's a very nice story the would
be governor, Republican governor of New Jersey, Jack Sharelli. His
son just came back from deployment, So that's an acceptable
reason to tell us he surprised him.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The sun surprised him that he is maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Going to join us for a little bit later on
the show, but we'll have to see because things got
a little crazy. Very nice video though, circulating of the
sun or Trump was in Kuwait, I think, is that right?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
He was serving overseas, surprised his dad unexpectedly getting back
to be able to be there, which is super.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Cool for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
And again, all of you in New Jersey, Buck, this
is what the numbers reflect. We need a huge Republican turnout.
There is a Democrat lead of about two hundred and
fifty thousand votes. If Republicans show up in big numbers,
then he's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
If enough Republicans show up in New Jersey, the New
Jersey governor can be a Republican.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
He can win.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
If there's a miracle and space alien's land from some
other dimension, you could have Curtis Lee will win in
New York City. But it is really unlikely. Uh Ginarelli
very much in the game. If Republicans show up Sliwa.
We hope, but it is just hope at this point.
It would have to be something the likes of which
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we have never seen in modern American politics, and I
think Unfortunately, I'm Donnie. The turnoff for Ma'm Donnie is
looking pretty strong. Anyway, we're we're not doing doing voter suppression.
I'm doing voter suppression New York City. I lived there
for thirty plus years. It's full of lunatic libs.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Everybody. Do you not like what we are outnumbered?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you think do you think some right wing guys
gonna win the mayor's office in San Francisco? You say, oh,
rue Giuliani, that was thirty something years ago. Okay, it's
been a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
He only had one opponent.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
The problem with Sliwa is if if Cuomo had not
run as an independent, then we could have spent a
lot of time out there saying, hey, to head to
head battle, is there an opportunity for reasonable people to
cross over? This is why we've been going after Slee.
What cannot win. Everyone go vote. I don't want to
hear from anybody ever at any point in time. Every
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now and then we get oh, if you talk about
the elections, you're supper every single person. We've said this
all in the midterms twenty twenty two. We said it
in the election twenty twenty four. Let nothing that we
say dissuade you in any way from going to vote.
We just said, buck, you voted in Miami Beach's mayor
or a election. I went and voted in the Franklin Alderman.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Race last week. There was I showed all one show up.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, I just realized we both showed up, probably wearing flipflops,
like no one even paid attention to what's going on,
you know, because it's a really low key affair. But
I voted because I want clean, safe streets. I want
to reelect minor who is the mayor here in Miami Beach,
because the guy's done a good job and I don't
want to have to sit around and say, oh, well,
I didn't actually do the one thing I could do
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if we get some lunatic communist who wins here.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I've got a congressional race. I'm in the Tennessee seventh.
I've got a congressional race that I'm gonna be voting in.
That's a special election. There's not very many people that
are gonna show up. I'm gonna show up, So always
go vote. And let me just tell you this, I
don't ask for a lot, all right, For the next
two days. I'm gonna be shameless about this because I
(25:24):
want this book to be everywhere. I have got a
book out tomorrow. Buck's got one that's coming out in January.
You basically have to be shameless this day and age
to get anyone to buy books. You guys read. I
would deeply appreciate if you would go buy a copy.
I'm holding it up on video right now of my book.
(25:47):
I would love for this to be the best selling
book in America this week because I think the arguments
that I make in it, it's got a funny title,
It's gonna have appeal. I think for a lot of
people out there. The book is called Balls b Lls.
You know my name, it is Klay Travis. This will
be in bookstores everywhere. But if you could go buy
it right now, it would matter to me tremendously. I
(26:11):
don't ask for very much. In fact, I'm in a
good spot where I'm going to donate the proceeds from
this book to charity, so I don't I've been buck before.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
When I wrote books, man, I.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Didn't have any money, and I've been in that situation
out there where I got nothing and the book sells
helped to get my kids fed and help me to
pay my mortgage. I'm in a good spot where I
don't have to have that. I feel incredibly fortunate, which
is why I'm going to donate the proceeds. But I
do want the arguments here to get out. So the
Book is Balls. You can go buy it on Amazon.
(26:44):
There's a link up on my Twitter profile page if
you want the audiobook. Buck hasn't done this yet. I
set in a windowless room and I read the entire book,
every word written by me, every word read by me.
So if you're not a reader, if you're like my
wife and you drive kids around all day and you
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listen to audio books, it is me reading this entire
book again. I'm gonna talk about it today. I'm gonna
talk about it tomorrow. You're gonna see me on every
Fox News show. You're gonna see me on media everywhere.
I'm gonna be on with Glenn Beck in the morning.
I'm gonna be on with Jesse Kelly in the evenings.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
On Premiere.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Should we reach out to Hannity, I'll be on Handity's
TV show. I probably should be on Handy's radio show too.
The book is Balls. It has two big basketballs on
the cover. It is should be everywhere. Please go buy it.
It would mean a ton to me. I think you'll
enjoy it, your kids, your grandkids, if you got young mission.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's all about that yes question question. First of all,
go get balls. Thank you, you gotta have ball.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I hate being shameless and just having to be a salesperson,
but this is what is demanded in book sales today.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You you hate being shameless. Design is like our family,
you know what I mean. Let's let's let's there on
their eyes.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Erectly for me. It's rare that I come on and
I say, hey, please go buy this book directly for me.
But yes, we gotta we gotta get We gotta get
Clay on that bestseller list for sure. So please go
out there, get your copy and uh and we'll do
all kinds of fun stuff here on the show about it.
I was gonna ask you a question though, as we
are selling copies of Balls. So you know I know
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Glenn pretty darn well because I work for Glenn. He
started my media career, as everyone knows who listens to me,
and I worked for Glenn for six years, so I
know Glenn pretty well. Glenn knows less about professional athletics
than I do. Sean strikes me as very much like
a bro, like a dude. He's a big he's a
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big sports fan. Because I actually did, I've never talked
to Sean about that, so I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
If he's a big sports guy. He's a big sports guy.
It makes sense.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, I would say even if you're not a
big sports person, if you have kids, sports sometimes can
be the hook to get them to pay attention. So
there are a lot of aspects of sports here. Really
this is about young men. I would say. The thesis
of the book is why have we lost masculinity in America?
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And how do we potentially get it back? What does
it mean to be a strong man. This is not
an anti woman book, but I feel like we have
spent There's a lot of women out there that get it.
You have kids, you have grandkids, and there's a lot
of women that have had to deal with weak men
in their life. So I think a lot of them
will appreciate this too. But how do we go from Hey,
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it's good for men and women to be equal to
toxic masculinity as a thing and being a man is
a bad thing. And part of this was a response
in the twenty twenty four election. I think Trump felt this,
But it's sort of an examination of gender roles and
how we've decided that in order to elevate women, we
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have to tear down men. And I think it's an
important conversation. I think a lot of moms feel it
because you're boys. I think a lot of you out
there that are dads or granddads you feel it because
you look around and you think. And certainly if you've
got young men, this is who the book is really
trying to get in their head. And there's a part,
you know, I've been thinking about this a lot buck
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but this whole idea that white men destroyed America. I mean,
if you're a young white kid, it's now spread into
young black kids and Hispanic kids and Asian kids. Being
a man, being a young man is seen as somehow lesser.
And how do we get men to be strong men?
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That is really kind of the essence of the book.
And why has Trump become this avatar in many ways
of a masculine man for young men who don't have
a lot of male role models, and partly a lot
of the book goes after men too, Buck, because there's
a lot of absent dads, and absent dads I think
create weak young men because the men who create are
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not doing a good job of instilling backbone and toughness
and endurance and all of these masculine virtues because they're absent.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And so how do we.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Build stronger, more masculine men who are capable of taking
on the role of men in America? And certainly I
think it's happening all around the world, but this is
focused on our country. So I spend a lot of
time thinking about it. I got three young boys, and
so this was an important story I think to examine
for me absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
And I know that we separately. You talked about this
one day I was out and then I just brought
it up, and you've been focused on this. But just
by way of and I knew this would be something
like list we've talked about the positive.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Role models for I think.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
For dads out there, meaning competent, strong, good dads in
pop culture, in media, and if you just do I
just did a Google search, so it's Google. You know,
you know what comes up. Carl Winslow family matters. But
I mean, he's you know, he's like overweight and it's
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a little bit of a but he's a cop and
a good guy. No, I watch that show religiously. I
give that Phil Dunfie. He's likable, but he's a little
bit you know, he does a little bit of a
nerd thing, uh, you know, from a modern Family, and
I think there's a lot of left wing propaganda and
Modern Family, although it's very clever.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
The Andy Griffith show, Little House on the Prairie.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I mean, you're going back now, when when were those
shows even on the air. And that's the first stuff
that comes up. And then they for movies to Kill
a Mockingbird again? When was that out? It's been a
long time. And the other movies I see here, I've
never even heard of some of these movies.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
So we can't we can't have.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Like you can't have a dad that is in pop
culture that you also as a dad can look at
and be like, Yeah, that's how we do it, that's
the way it gets done.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I mean, I think we.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Took the idea that men could be heroes of stories
away in the twenty first century. And I mean, yes,
pop culture is a huge part of this. I mean
the fact that you have to go back to Michael
what was his name, the star of Little House on
the Prairie as a great father figure paw on the
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Ingles family. I mean, that's crazy that we would have
to go all the way back to there. And yeah,
this is a big part of what the book is.
So please go buy it. It would mean a lot
to me. I want this book to be everywhere. I
want people to have to have this conversation, even on
CNN and MSNBC. So we got a provocative title, but
it's a good book.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Balls.
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Welcome back in here to and Buck, and we're going
to dive into some of the biggest takeaways from President
trump sit down over the weekend. With sixty minutes, he
covered a whole wide range of topics. We'll dive into
some of that here coming up shortly. We're obviously still
thinking very much and analyzing in depth the New York
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City mayor's race and the two governors races that we
care about in Virginia and New Jersey. And we'll get
some of your call some of your talkbacks, all of
that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
To be sure.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Let's see, Oh, Dennis in California wants to throw something
to the mix.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Go ahead, Dennis, Hi, guys, I just wanted to make
sure we don't neglect the big ballot major, the Proposition
fifty in California. This is related to redistricting, and we
need to vote know on Prop fifty to make sure
that we override Nussom's attempt to still five Republican congressional speets.
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Absolutely huge for Congress.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
All right, good point Californians. A lot of Republicans in California,
and a lot of them listen to the show. You
got to get out there for Prop fifty, all right,
You know you gotta mobilize play very important one percent.
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and down the ballot. Always go vote across this nation.
Please drive up, turnout everywhere. If you listen to us,
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