December 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off from Miami with Clay and Buck recapping a festive holiday party before diving into major headlines shaping politics, culture, and sports. The hour opens with breaking news from the world of college football: University of Michigan offensive coordinator Sherrone Moore has been fired and faces serious criminal charges after an alleged violent incident involving a former subordinate. Clay details the shocking reports of Moore’s arrest and the potential arraignment, underscoring how this story could dominate national sports and news cycles.
From sports, the conversation pivots to legal and political battles in blue jurisdictions, focusing on the difficulty of securing grand jury indictments against high-profile Democrats like New York Attorney General Letitia James. Buck and Clay analyze why grand juries in deep-blue areas often refuse to indict, even in cases with clear evidence, and praise attorney Lindsay Halligan for her rare success in obtaining indictments against figures such as James Comey and Letitia James. They argue that partisan bias has fractured the justice system and propose reforms, including allowing defendants to move federal cases to their home states for fairer trials.
The hour then shifts to Gavin Newsom’s escalating online feud with Elon Musk, which has gone viral. Newsom, now the leading prediction-market favorite for the 2028 Democratic nomination, sparked outrage by saying he wants “more trans kids” and mocking Musk with a personal jab: “We’re sorry your daughter hates you.” Musk fired back, blaming the “woke mind virus” for harming his child. Clay and Buck dissect the political and moral implications of Newsom’s stance on transgender issues, warning that Democrats’ embrace of radical gender policies—especially for minors—could become a major liability. They highlight the growing backlash against gender surgeries for children, call for federal protections, and predict future class-action lawsuits against hospitals and doctors involved in these procedures.
Buck connects this cultural debate to broader societal concerns, citing historical parallels and ethical principles like “do no harm.” The hosts also note disturbing patterns of violence linked to extremist activism, referencing the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk and the symbolism in his courtroom appearance. They argue that the left’s fixation on identity politics has replaced climate change as its dominant ideological crusade, with devastating consequences for children.
Hour 1 also features lighter moments, including holiday anecdotes from Buck’s family, Clay’s bourbon-fueled party recap, and listener calls suggesting humorous nicknames for Gavin Newsom, such as “Greasy Gavin McNewcomb.” The segment closes with NFL picks and playful banter, blending serious analysis with the show’s signature conversational style.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We
are down in Miami where Buck and his wife Carrie
through a spectacular holiday party last night. So festivities of
the Christmas season are in the air here and I'm
sure many different places around the country, as I bet
(00:22):
a lot of you are into the holiday party season swing.
We've got a ton of different stories to update you
on and to dive into with all of you. This
is a crazy one, Buck, This is a little bit
my world's colliding because it is a top story everywhere
(00:43):
and it kind of came out yesterday. But the University
of Michigan has a football coach who has been fired,
Sharon Moore, and it appears that he is going to
be charged with very very serious criminal offenses.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Maybe while we're.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
On the air today in the Ann Arbor, Michigan area.
There are tons of reporters that are prepared to hear
the arraignment there. He has been in prison in jail
since Wednesday, so two nights now. They have not yet
released the arraignment. But Buck, it appears, based on the
(01:25):
reports that are out there, that he was engaged in
a relationship with a subordinate She went public with the
University of Michigan, with the fact that that relationship was
going on, and then he was fired, and then he
evidently flipped out, and there are reports he showed up
(01:47):
at her house with a knife, threatening to kill her
and kill himself, and he was arrested and he has
been held for the past two days. Now those reports,
maybe we can grab him. That aired on the local
Fox affiliate in Detroit. But this is a this is
(02:08):
an unbelievable story and it is going to be I
think as the charges come out, and even bigger story.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So we will follow that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Just when you think college football, Buck finally becomes a
college football fan a bit and the stories just become
unbelievable and insane as we break all that down. Now
bigger international stories that are out there, Buck, the Venezuela
situation continues to tick up. It feels like to a
(02:39):
large degree, we've got the Jasmine Crockett Joy Reid sit
down interview that absolutely no one on the planet was
talking about, but I actually wanted to. We'll talk about
Gilmar Breo Garcia, the Maryland Dad, aka the human trafficking smuggler,
is back in the news. But I thought this was interest,
(03:00):
and we haven't talked about it a lot. Lindsay Halligan
was the attorney who was pointed appointed and was able
to get indictments of James Comy and of Leticia James.
But we've talked about the difficulty sometimes in getting grand
jury indictments in these Democrat blue areas. Buck and Leticia
(03:22):
James now with new attorneys trying to get these indictments,
has twice been refused to be indicted by grand juries.
And uh, this is cut one. Listen to this, this
big discussion, because again, what is it that Lindsay Halligan
was able to do that no one else who has
(03:43):
been in her job can somehow accomplish.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Listen to cut.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
One died by this word.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
This is the notion that no one is about the law.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And it seems pretty clear that you actually did commit
a crime.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Now I actually Leticia James saying it's clear that she
did commit a crime. It looks like she's filing application
that were the case.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It would be easy piece to get a grand jury
jury in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Is I don't know? All right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So what's going on here that only Lindsay Halligan seems
capable of getting these indictments you're seeing. We've talked about
this a lot, but you know, the guy who threw
the subway sandwich was the DC grand jury refused to indict.
One of the big challenges that Trump has faced as
he is trying to hold people accountable for the crimes
(04:37):
that they allegedly have committed, is there are lots of
these blue jurisdictions which we are playing a road game
every single time, that to a large extent just will
not indict. And I don't know, uh, I have an
idea about what a solution would be, Buck, but this
is why we've kind of consistently said. The idea that
(04:57):
you're going to be able to get some form of
justice here is going to be very, very difficult, not
only because the statutes of limitations are running out, but
just because left wing grand juries refuse to indict because
they're trying to indict their own team members.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So that's really the final thing you said, I think
is the determining factor, which is it's not I would
think the particular skill, legal skill and acumen of the
of Lindsay Halligan. I think that what this is just
(05:33):
is the jury is this grand jury comprised of people
who view any indictment of Leticia James as inherently political. See,
this is the problem. It is now all so political
that it's very hard for people, where some people are
unwilling to disentangle the politics. Right, Leticia James Attorney General
of New York in a gross violation of very basic
(05:58):
ethics for an employee a prosecutor said I'm going to
get a private citizen when she was running, Okay, and
that was the entire foundation of much of her campaign,
was saying I'm going to get Donald Trump and and
and she should be ashamed of that, and everybody who
supports her or supported and supports her should be ashamed
of that. They're not, of course, but that was what
she did. And then she brought a very clearly absurd
(06:23):
political hit job civil case against Donald Trump, and with
the massive judgment, and all you have to know is
that she, according to her, the banks are idiots. Trump's
an idiot, even though everyone involved here are super sophisticated,
worth billions and billions of dollars, do their own due diligence,
and they're all happy. She knew more than Trump and
(06:45):
the banks who were he worked with, who said he
wanted to wanted to work with them again, he defrauded them,
that this is insane. But now they've said, okay, fine,
no one's above the law. That includes no one includes
right inherently Letitia James. There are people on that jury
who they watch CNN, They read the Washington Post, in
(07:06):
particular the Northern Virginia jury. Right, They read the Washington Post,
and they think that no matter what you clay, they
if they showed up with Leticia James on video accepting
a million dollars in cash to prosecute Trump, yes, there
are a lot of people on the jury who say, Nope, nope,
not going to do it. Either I don't believe it
(07:27):
or I don't care because she's anti Trump. So this
just shows you how fractured the legal system has become
because of this.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well, and here's my solution, and I think I've had
a couple of senators on with us and made this case.
We have to allow at least when it comes to prosecutions,
people say, okay, they can indict anybody who's a Republican
in DC, Northern Virginia, obviously, New York City, many of
these blue cities inside of Blue jurisdictions, you should be
(07:57):
able to remove to your local jurisdiction any federal charges
brought against you. So, in other words, if I were
charged with a crime in Washington, d C. I should
be able to move that case back to my home
state of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't think it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Would solve everything, but it would mean that a jury
of my actual peers would judge me, as opposed to
a jury of a kangaroo court in a blue city
that is overwhelmingly opposed to me because of my politics.
And look, this is what Trump is having to deal with.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
We're in South Florida right now, and there is talk
that they are trying to make charges be brought around
the Biden Department of Justice, Jack Smith, all of that
investigatory process. I believe there's a grand jury impaneled in
South Florida that actually feels fair to me because it's
much more of a fifty to fifty ish jurisdiction. But
(08:52):
when you're trying to get anyone indicted for federal crimes
that occur in the Washington DC area, which almost all
of them do, it is well nigh impossible.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I used to phrase, well nigh I don't think my
grandma's gonna be happy. Well nigh impossible to get an
actual indictment there, And look, we praise Lindsay Holligan for
her ability to do this, buck no one else seems
to be capable of doing it, which makes you wonder
what are these career prosecutors actually doing and how aggressively
(09:24):
are they really bringing the case in front of the
grand jury. Why could we get an indictment from Lindsay
Halligan when she did it and these career prosecutors aren't
able to do it. It makes me wonder how much
are they really going through the process of trying to
get charges versus just kind of going through what they
consider to be an illegitimate case and not actually trying
(09:45):
to get an indictment.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, also, if you look at just expectations management here,
we're just talking about a grand jury indictment, which Abby
Phillip is correct. Abby Phillips is correct that that is
generally a pretty slam dunk part of the process. Yes,
getting an actual conviction that's going to be a whole
other situation. But I would just say with this kind
(10:06):
of a crime, it's very straightforward, yes, which is why
the resistance to this or you know, to claim that
it's political is to assert that facts in evidence that
both sides have. I mean, this is, you sign the paperwork,
it wasn't your house, you signed it multiple times, you lied,
(10:26):
you got a financial benefit from it. Those are the allegations.
But that's what is pretty straightforward about this. The other
broke the law, you didn't. And really what you're seeing
are people who will take the position that breaking the
law for someone who is who has used the law
to get trumpet, they have a get out of Jeffrey
cart essentially that you are above and beyond legal sanction
(10:51):
as long as you have tried to get trump and
I think, unfortunately that may play out the same way
on a jury, Clay, all you need is one tag resistance,
you know, angry, probably middle aged female bureaucratit Department of
such and such to be on that jury. And guess what,
(11:11):
logician James worst case scenario, you're looking at a hung
jury and.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Totally I think that will one hundred percent end up happening.
We wanted to update you on that. We'll have some
fun Friday edition. Our buddy Ryan Gerdsky is going to
be with US at two. There's some data out there
that suggests that millions of people may well have left
the country who were here illegally in the birth numbers.
And he's a data nerd. He broke it down for us.
(11:38):
I read it earlier this week. I was impressed by
the methodology. And he'll come on and explain because there's
been a lot of talk about not only who is
being deported, but how many people are self deporting. So
we will talk about all that in the meantime. Big
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Speaker 2 (13:15):
Welcome back in here to play and Buck, and I'll
tell you I like the Christmas music. We had a
little Christmas chin dig down here yesterday and I have
to report back it was a fabulous party. Fabulous exclamation point,
it was a fabulous party. I have to what did
you think of my velvet jacket? Clay? Clay was very
Christmasy green shirt, red velvet jacket, which is very he was.
(13:40):
He was really a fashion played last night I got
to tell you how to go up very fashion forward,
and I was watching, I was observing, I was I
was hoping that we would catch him in a moment
of weakness reaching across that open bar for a glass
of rose, given all of the delicious delectables gotches and
(14:00):
whiskeys and tequilas and beers and everything else. And I
can only I can report back that there was not
a rose in sight with mister Clay last night, so
he stayed strong. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I did not have any rosees. I did have a
lot of bourbons, so that was It was a lot
of fun. It was an awesome event. And by the way,
congratulations to your father in law who right now is
completing his final day as a commercial airline pilot, which
is a cool thing. I did it you have a
final flight. So he was at the party last night.
He flew up to the northeast and he's got friends
(14:35):
and family. It's pretty cool. I didn't know you had
like a final flight kind of experience. Twenty seven years
flying for American Airlines, super before that a naval aviator
flying F eighteens. So he is he is currently up
in the in New York at a New York airport.
He'll be flying back down to South Florida tonight. That
will be that leg will be his his last, his
(14:58):
last flight.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Will put some some fun photos up of the flat
Lee crew, sell It family celebrating in the cockpit and
and everything else because they they went along. I'm working today,
but my wife and her and her sisters and you know,
the rest of the family, they're they're all that's super cool.
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did you know that commercial airline pilots had a tradition
like that on their final flight.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I never heard of. I think it's I think it's great.
I think it's great. So he'll he's gonna make a
little speech, probably to the passengers, so they'll get a
nice moment. You know, they'll get a real, a real
hallmark moment on the way down as we enter this
holiday season where they'll he'll give his final sign off
over the PA you know where they do like, hey,
it's seventy five degrees breezy, and I've been flying for
(15:44):
twenty seven years, and you know, he'll get into it.
So that was really, really, really cool. And we're going
to go out tonight and celebrate that hopefully I will
still have a voice left. I I gotta tell you
you're losing it here a little bit. It's a little
husky in a voice, a little husky. It was loud,
It was loud. Last night we had live jazz. We
had live jazz, which was fun and it was it
(16:04):
was boisterous, and I think that, you know, the saxophone
should make a comeback. I'm just gonna tell you I'm
a sax guy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's a dangerous phrase on the radio, but it reminds
me the saxophone guy. Was there no flutes? I thought
I might walk in and there'd just being I wanted
a little Jethro Tall Actually yeah, not least. I thought
there might be a flute ensemble performance there for my benefit.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But I did not see any flutes.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
By the way, this is super cool with Carrie in
the cockpit, So planbuck dot com so those you want
to see some of the photos of the final twenty
seven years flying and today's the last flight, so check
it out. I know producer Alley's jealous because she's still
in love with the shirtless saxophone player from Lost Boys.
If you remember that unbelievable, incredible scene from the festival
(16:57):
the park amusement park. Guy there, that's one of the
iconic nineteen eighties, eighties movie scenes. You just have a
super ripped, shirtless saxophone player just going to town there
at the amusement park, as one does. And uh and
so yeah, it was. It was just an awesome It
was a fun it was a fun event. Our buddy
Alexi L. Wallace right before he gets into the full sprint
(17:18):
of the World Cup hanging out with us as well.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Lots of guests. Carol Markowitz, Michael Barry, buddy from Houston.
He made the He made the trip all the way
from Houston with his with his wonderful wife, so they
were celebrating with us last night. Dave Rutherford from the
Clay and Buck podcast network was there. We've got a
whole whole bunch of folks. I can't reader. We had
(17:41):
eighty eighty something people. Yeah, so, I mean it was
you know, it was it was festive. It was festive.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, it was outstanding. It was super super fun. So
I'm appreciative that you guys were able to do that.
And again I'm excited for your father in law and
that that final flight.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Fuck Sexton show as we
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Melodic holiday tunes. There you know, Gavin.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Newsom Buck has surged to the top of the likely
Democrat nominees for twenty twenty eight. If you look at
the polymarket or Calshi prediction markets out there, he has
opened up a really kind of prohibitive lead on being
the nominee. And as part of that, he's gotten pretty
nasty on social media. I think initially he was trying
(19:27):
to do a version of Donald Trump, and then he
has now just kind of I think seen the algorithm
reward his nastiness, and this I thought was particularly nasty.
I don't know if you saw this. It's starting to
go a little bit viral. Gavin Newsom said, I believe
yesterday that he wanted there to be basically more trans kids.
(19:50):
And I think most people out there, whatever your thoughts
are on trans related issues, would not want miners making
choices that could be so debility hating to their bodies,
and certainly is makes their lives more challenging. Here was
the quote, I want to see trans kids. There's no
governor that's done more pro trans legislation than I have.
(20:13):
That is Gavin Newsom and Elon Musk responded, and so,
first of all, Gavin Newsom says, correct. Elon shared that
that clip and said this was the wrong decision. Gavin
Newsom responded and said correct, We're sorry your daughter hates you,
(20:33):
Elon Gavin Newsom's official Twitter acaunt that's ugly. Okay, So
Elon said again, I don't want there being more trans kids.
It's not a good policy. So then Gavin Newsom says,
We're sorry your daughter hates you. Here's what Elon Musk
responded here recently, just in the last few hours. I
assume you're referring to my son Xavier, who has a
(20:55):
tragic mental illness caused by the evil woke mind virus
you push on vulnerable children. I love Xavier very much
and hope he recovers. My daughters are Azure, Iksa and Arcadia,
and they do indeed love me very much. But that's
(21:17):
really unbelievably nasty from Gavin Newsom to say we're sorry
your daughter hates you.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So can we go there for a second. Didn't Gavin
Newsom sleep with his best friend slash campaign manager's wife. Yes,
that's a pure scumbag move. Yes, that's really all you
have to know about someone's character. And that's not even
taking into account the fact that Gavin Newsom is a walking, talking,
lying BS machine and always has been. But this is
(21:48):
not a guy who should be taking shots at people's
First off, didn't his wife sue Harvey Weinstein and lose?
There was a lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I don't remember the specifics, but his wife was involved.
I thought she maybe was said she was a victim
of Harvey Weinstein in some former fashion. I think she
was an actress, and so I think that was kind
of the background story on that. His first wife was
Donald Trump Junior. Kimberly Gilfoy, right, was his first wife.
(22:22):
They got divorced, and now the second wife is is
you know the one who threw in the towel If
you remember during the debate against Ron DeSantis, that was
that was a moment where so she.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Newsom's wife testified against Weinstein in the Los Angeles trial.
She accused him of rape. She did not personally sue
him in a civil lawsuit, so pardon me. I want
to make sure I get this right. But participated in
another lawsuit as an accuser or another case rather as
an accuser. She gave testimony about this, and yeah, of
(22:55):
course wein. Weinstein's defense was that everything with her was
was transactional and consensual. He was not. This is what
He was not convicted in the case where she was
a witness, not that she there was a non conviction there.
She was a witness in the case there was a
non conviction, and I thought she had sued him civilly,
but that's not that is not correct. She was a
(23:15):
witness against him as well. So those are the facts
of that.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But you know, the Gavin knew some trans angle because
he got a lot of attention. If you remember when
he had Charlie kirk On as a guest on his
podcast and he gave that answer of I get that,
you know, you can do your evil Keanu Reeves impersonation
of him. But he tried to address men playing women's
sports and he said, yeah, I get that, you know,
(23:38):
and basically tried to dodge around addressing it by saying,
that's a reasonable perspective to have. I get why a
parent could have. He didn't actually say he disagreed with it.
He just said, hey, that's an opinion you could have.
And now he's saying that he's in favor of there
being more trans kids. This is I think an awful battle,
both politically and more for Democrats. We talk about how
(24:01):
sometimes political and moral are different.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Here, I think everyone out there who was saying, hey,
let's wait, let's let kids develop before we start having
all these trans surgeries committed on them. For Gavin Newsom
to be encouraging trans kids, for him to be saying
that Elon Musk's kid hates him. Uh and uh, I
just I think we can look look for this to
(24:25):
become even more of an issue going forward. I think
it's going to be. I think it's going to be
a mess and uh. And he's going to fight on
this and transing kids being a good thing.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
He has no I think that if he could walk
away from that issue, he he would, But he can't
because he's going to be bludgeoned by and he should be,
by Republicans on it. But the Democrat left will not
give up on that issue. They will they will not
walk away on that issue. And I guess at some
(24:58):
level it is almost like, you know, climate change has
really faded so much, the trans sex identity stuff has
I think replaced that as the religion of choice for
the religion replacement really for people on the left in
this country, they feel like there's something Instead of it
being saving the earth, it's a civil rights strung right,
it's saving humanity. It's the great humanitarian approach. The tragic
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part about it is well, climate change does a lot
of damage too, but it's mostly financial and freedom damage.
They're hurting kids with this stuff. They are doing irreparable
damage to children, and a lot of doctors and a
lot of people in the medical field are just too
cowardly to say with that, what's really going on? Look,
all you really have to know about this issue? I
(25:44):
shouldn't say all you have to know, but a really
good I think Shorthand Clay is the guy who ran
the Johns Hopkins what they used to call sex change
surgery clinic. He's pretty well known guy. He's much older
guy now I think he's still around, but ran it
for decades. After all that was like, I, this is
not a good idea, and this is for adults, not
for children. For adults, it's like, this is not not
(26:05):
a good idea medically, it's medically unsound. And then had
to really disappear. He might've even apologize or said, oh,
I shouldn't have said that or something, But it's just
because people are psychos about this stuff and they threaten you.
You get death. Think about this. There are people who
give you death threats and as many people on the
right have found this out unfortunately the hard way. Well,
let's be honest. One of the biggest issues for the
(26:27):
Charlie Kirk alleged assassin who's in court today is what
Charlie Kirk was saying about trans. Yes, and look at
the shooter in the school in Tennessee and in Minneapolity
and in Minneapolis. So it's not just threats. I wanted
to be clear, it's not just threats about the trans issue.
It is actual violence in the name of pushing this
(26:51):
really demonic process of putting kids, putting kids through this.
It's Look, there should be federal laws to prevent them. Oh,
think about the federal laws that do exist to protect
kids that are far you we're talking about things like
tobacco or yes, things that are far less. You know,
if you smoke a cigarette and not gonna fall over
and die. I'm not advocating for kids to smoke, but
(27:12):
you're going to have sex change operation surgery. I they
can call a gender affirmation all day long. It was
called sex change surgery until about five minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
They need to have some of these kids that are
deciding as they get older that this shouldn't have been done.
They need to have class action lawsuits because I think
juries if you got these kids in front of the
jury and they said, hey, I was eleven or twelve
years old, I didn't know what I was doing. I
was thirteen, I was fourteen, and I permanently sterilized myself.
(27:40):
I mean, I think some of these juries could deliver
verdicts worth hundreds of millions of dollars in damages and
against some of these doctors and hospitals that have been
encouraging this.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And I think it would end almost overnight.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because of the risk that they would have going forward
from these kinds of lawsuits. Because kids can't consent to
you know, a minor can't consent to all of the
decisions that they're making.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So there was I know this is going to seem
like a digression, but I believe it was. Zia Al
hak was the president, really the dictator of Pakistan in
the eighties around the time of the Soviet Afghan War,
and it was under his regime that there was an
effort to, if memory serves, to medicalize amputation surgery for crimes,
(28:30):
or rather to medicalize amputation for crimes by doing it
as a surgery. So instead I remember you talking about it,
instead of cutting off your hand for stealing with a
scimitar or whatever, a hatchet or something, it was Okay,
we're going to surgically remove it. But a lot of
the Pakistani doctors at the time were actually Western trained.
A lot of them were getting their training in the West.
You know that the people that could conduct those kinds
(28:52):
of surgeries and there they weren't willing to do it. Yes,
good for them, but I mean, this is not a
thing that was actually happening, even though it was a
policy that was being talked about at one point. There's
some dispute as to whether you know, they ever were
really going to intentionally do this or not. But I
do believe that there are a lot of doctors who would,
on ethical grounds refuse to do things because their profession
(29:13):
is supposed to be about healing and helping and do
no harm is a very good first principle for medicine.
You're doing harm to a fourteen year old girl that
you are removing breasts from or giving sterilizing hormones to.
Hormones are incredibly powerful for your sense of well being,
for your overall health, for a lot of things. And
(29:34):
to mess with that clay and not really know where
it's taking somebody is It's just it's reckless and it's wrong.
So the fact that Gavin Newsom is firmly on the
wrong side of this issue is not surprising. And also
we got to he never said, remember we had that
interview with Charlie. Actually he never said that he was
that that's right, he's against the trans thing. He just
(29:55):
he said something that kind of left it open ended.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I would also point this, I am looking at some
of the pictures from the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk.
Maybe it's coincidental, but the tie that he wore in
his court hearing yesterday is the same colors as the
trans flag. I don't know. Again, maybe it's coincidental. But
(30:21):
if you google what the trans flag looks like and
then you look at the tie that he selected for
his court appearance today, it is the exact same colors.
Now again, maybe maybe they will have maybe they will
have some element of saying that's a coincidence, but you know,
(30:42):
you're going to be in public, it seems you know,
I yeah, probably intentional.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
As getting up along the lines of like if you
happen to have an M and it happened to have
an S and happened to have a thirteen tattooed on
your knuckles. I mean, it's technically not proof that you're
an MS thirteen, but it's kind of proof that you're
an thirteen, right, I mean, you know, you could make
the argument that it's some kind of weird and I
know that they say, oh, is it even you know,
it's like another letter, you know, it's like the Spanish version.
(31:08):
Who whatever the point is. Yeah, some at some echelon
of analysis, the coincidence is far too powerful for it
to actually be coincidence. You know, we were talking about
protecting kids and that should stretch all the way down
to the unborn, to babies and baby's in the womb.
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I'm still I feel like we got six more weeks
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Speaker 1 (34:44):
Lots lots of travel going on, lots of kids getting
up early in the morning for that Christmas morning, and
maybe you're sleeping a little bit on a bed that's
not necessarily your normal bed because you're traveling, or you're
moving everybody around.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The one Miss Clay for the holiday party last night.
The one thing that I really was like, oh man,
we had a special little baby speed Christmas outfit all well,
Carrie obviously had picked this out and he looked so
cute and so Christmasy, like a little Santa's elf basically,
and like he had like little Christmas leader hozen on
(35:20):
basic and we brought him to the party and he
was so cute. And then as soon as the noise
and everything else, man, he was just hard pass. He
was not too many people, too much noise. He was
ready to bail. He was done. We got him to
the threshold of the party and he threw a tantrum
like I haven't seen in a while, and I was like,
(35:41):
all right, all right, you know, he hit the eject button.
We tried some people not made for partying, at least
not an eight months old. So we're just to be clear.
We weren't going to keep him at the point. We
just wanted to do one round. Soever we could take
a photo of him looking all cute, but anyways, he
didn't the last His royal chunkiness has made a full recovery.
He's doing fun in Katie, Texas. Got a Gavin Newsom
(36:02):
take for us. Will what you got? Hey, guys, another
show and I know Russ is a smile on you
guys with the great work y'all doing for the conservative movements.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Thank you. I wanted I wanted to make an observation.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Can we please refer to Gavin Newscomb go forward?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Is greasy? Uh, Gavin McK newscomb, because he reminds me.
His personality reminds me a lot of Shooting McGavin from
Happy Kilmore. You remember how Happy Fillmore, I mean shooting
McGavin treated his fans. He said, go back to your shanties.
You know when he got frustrated with him.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
If they happy to Gilmore two just came out. I
didn't think it was that bad. A lot of people
disagreed with me, but I do love that shooting. McGavin
Newsome combot
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We
are down in Miami where Buck and his wife Carrie
through a spectacular holiday party last night. So festivities of
the Christmas season are in the air here and I'm
sure many different places around the country, as I bet
(00:22):
a lot of you are into the holiday party season swing.
We've got a ton of different stories to update you
on and to dive into with all of you. This
is a crazy one, Buck, This is a little bit
my world's colliding because it is a top story everywhere
(00:43):
and it kind of came out yesterday. But the University
of Michigan has a football coach who has been fired,
Sharon Moore, and it appears that he is going to
be charged with very very serious criminal offenses.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Maybe while we're.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
On the air today in the Ann Arbor, Michigan area.
There are tons of reporters that are prepared to hear
the arraignment there. He has been in prison in jail
since Wednesday, so two nights now. They have not yet
released the arraignment. But Buck, it appears, based on the
(01:25):
reports that are out there, that he was engaged in
a relationship with a subordinate She went public with the
University of Michigan, with the fact that that relationship was
going on, and then he was fired, and then he
evidently flipped out, and there are reports he showed up
(01:47):
at her house with a knife, threatening to kill her
and kill himself, and he was arrested and he has
been held for the past two days. Now those reports,
maybe we can grab him. That aired on the local
Fox affiliate in Detroit. But this is a this is
(02:08):
an unbelievable story and it is going to be I
think as the charges come out, and even bigger story.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
So we will follow that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Just when you think college football, Buck finally becomes a
college football fan a bit and the stories just become
unbelievable and insane as we break all that down. Now
bigger international stories that are out there, Buck, the Venezuela
situation continues to tick up. It feels like to a
(02:39):
large degree, we've got the Jasmine Crockett Joy Reid sit
down interview that absolutely no one on the planet was
talking about, but I actually wanted to. We'll talk about
Gilmar Breo Garcia, the Maryland Dad, aka the human trafficking smuggler,
is back in the news. But I thought this was interest,
(03:00):
and we haven't talked about it a lot. Lindsay Halligan
was the attorney who was pointed appointed and was able
to get indictments of James Comy and of Leticia James.
But we've talked about the difficulty sometimes in getting grand
jury indictments in these Democrat blue areas. Buck and Leticia
(03:22):
James now with new attorneys trying to get these indictments,
has twice been refused to be indicted by grand juries.
And uh, this is cut one. Listen to this, this
big discussion, because again, what is it that Lindsay Halligan
was able to do that no one else who has
(03:43):
been in her job can somehow accomplish.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Listen to cut.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
One died by this word.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
This is the notion that no one is about the law.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And it seems pretty clear that you actually did commit
a crime.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Now I actually Leticia James saying it's clear that she
did commit a crime. It looks like she's filing application
that were the case.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It would be easy piece to get a grand jury
jury in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Is I don't know? All right?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
So what's going on here that only Lindsay Halligan seems
capable of getting these indictments you're seeing. We've talked about
this a lot, but you know, the guy who threw
the subway sandwich was the DC grand jury refused to indict.
One of the big challenges that Trump has faced as
he is trying to hold people accountable for the crimes
(04:37):
that they allegedly have committed, is there are lots of
these blue jurisdictions which we are playing a road game
every single time, that to a large extent just will
not indict. And I don't know, uh, I have an
idea about what a solution would be, Buck, but this
is why we've kind of consistently said. The idea that
(04:57):
you're going to be able to get some form of
justice here is going to be very, very difficult, not
only because the statutes of limitations are running out, but
just because left wing grand juries refuse to indict because
they're trying to indict their own team members.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So that's really the final thing you said, I think
is the determining factor, which is it's not I would
think the particular skill, legal skill and acumen of the
of Lindsay Halligan. I think that what this is just
(05:33):
is the jury is this grand jury comprised of people
who view any indictment of Leticia James as inherently political. See,
this is the problem. It is now all so political
that it's very hard for people, where some people are
unwilling to disentangle the politics. Right, Leticia James Attorney General
of New York in a gross violation of very basic
(05:58):
ethics for an employee a prosecutor said I'm going to
get a private citizen when she was running, Okay, and
that was the entire foundation of much of her campaign,
was saying I'm going to get Donald Trump and and
and she should be ashamed of that, and everybody who
supports her or supported and supports her should be ashamed
of that. They're not, of course, but that was what
she did. And then she brought a very clearly absurd
(06:23):
political hit job civil case against Donald Trump, and with
the massive judgment, and all you have to know is
that she, according to her, the banks are idiots. Trump's
an idiot, even though everyone involved here are super sophisticated,
worth billions and billions of dollars, do their own due diligence,
and they're all happy. She knew more than Trump and
(06:45):
the banks who were he worked with, who said he
wanted to wanted to work with them again, he defrauded them,
that this is insane. But now they've said, okay, fine,
no one's above the law. That includes no one includes
right inherently Letitia James. There are people on that jury
who they watch CNN, They read the Washington Post, in
(07:06):
particular the Northern Virginia jury. Right, They read the Washington Post,
and they think that no matter what you clay, they
if they showed up with Leticia James on video accepting
a million dollars in cash to prosecute Trump, yes, there
are a lot of people on the jury who say, Nope, nope,
not going to do it. Either I don't believe it
(07:27):
or I don't care because she's anti Trump. So this
just shows you how fractured the legal system has become
because of this.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Well, and here's my solution, and I think I've had
a couple of senators on with us and made this case.
We have to allow at least when it comes to prosecutions,
people say, okay, they can indict anybody who's a Republican
in DC, Northern Virginia, obviously, New York City, many of
these blue cities inside of Blue jurisdictions, you should be
(07:57):
able to remove to your local jurisdiction any federal charges
brought against you. So, in other words, if I were
charged with a crime in Washington, d C. I should
be able to move that case back to my home
state of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't think it.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Would solve everything, but it would mean that a jury
of my actual peers would judge me, as opposed to
a jury of a kangaroo court in a blue city
that is overwhelmingly opposed to me because of my politics.
And look, this is what Trump is having to deal with.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
We're in South Florida right now, and there is talk
that they are trying to make charges be brought around
the Biden Department of Justice, Jack Smith, all of that
investigatory process. I believe there's a grand jury impaneled in
South Florida that actually feels fair to me because it's
much more of a fifty to fifty ish jurisdiction. But
(08:52):
when you're trying to get anyone indicted for federal crimes
that occur in the Washington DC area, which almost all
of them do, it is well nigh impossible.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I used to phrase, well nigh I don't think my
grandma's gonna be happy. Well nigh impossible to get an
actual indictment there, And look, we praise Lindsay Holligan for
her ability to do this, buck no one else seems
to be capable of doing it, which makes you wonder
what are these career prosecutors actually doing and how aggressively
(09:24):
are they really bringing the case in front of the
grand jury. Why could we get an indictment from Lindsay
Halligan when she did it and these career prosecutors aren't
able to do it. It makes me wonder how much
are they really going through the process of trying to
get charges versus just kind of going through what they
consider to be an illegitimate case and not actually trying
(09:45):
to get an indictment.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well, also, if you look at just expectations management here,
we're just talking about a grand jury indictment, which Abby
Phillip is correct. Abby Phillips is correct that that is
generally a pretty slam dunk part of the process. Yes,
getting an actual conviction that's going to be a whole
other situation. But I would just say with this kind
(10:06):
of a crime, it's very straightforward, yes, which is why
the resistance to this or you know, to claim that
it's political is to assert that facts in evidence that
both sides have. I mean, this is, you sign the paperwork,
it wasn't your house, you signed it multiple times, you lied,
(10:26):
you got a financial benefit from it. Those are the allegations.
But that's what is pretty straightforward about this. The other
broke the law, you didn't. And really what you're seeing
are people who will take the position that breaking the
law for someone who is who has used the law
to get trumpet, they have a get out of Jeffrey
cart essentially that you are above and beyond legal sanction
(10:51):
as long as you have tried to get trump and
I think, unfortunately that may play out the same way
on a jury, Clay, all you need is one tag resistance,
you know, angry, probably middle aged female bureaucratit Department of
such and such to be on that jury. And guess what,
(11:11):
logician James worst case scenario, you're looking at a hung
jury and.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Totally I think that will one hundred percent end up happening.
We wanted to update you on that. We'll have some
fun Friday edition. Our buddy Ryan Gerdsky is going to
be with US at two. There's some data out there
that suggests that millions of people may well have left
the country who were here illegally in the birth numbers.
And he's a data nerd. He broke it down for us.
(11:38):
I read it earlier this week. I was impressed by
the methodology. And he'll come on and explain because there's
been a lot of talk about not only who is
being deported, but how many people are self deporting. So
we will talk about all that in the meantime. Big
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Speaker 2 (13:15):
Welcome back in here to play and Buck, and I'll
tell you I like the Christmas music. We had a
little Christmas chin dig down here yesterday and I have
to report back it was a fabulous party. Fabulous exclamation point,
it was a fabulous party. I have to what did
you think of my velvet jacket? Clay? Clay was very
Christmasy green shirt, red velvet jacket, which is very he was.
(13:40):
He was really a fashion played last night I got
to tell you how to go up very fashion forward,
and I was watching, I was observing, I was I
was hoping that we would catch him in a moment
of weakness reaching across that open bar for a glass
of rose, given all of the delicious delectables gotches and
(14:00):
whiskeys and tequilas and beers and everything else. And I
can only I can report back that there was not
a rose in sight with mister Clay last night, so
he stayed strong. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I did not have any rosees. I did have a
lot of bourbons, so that was It was a lot
of fun. It was an awesome event. And by the way,
congratulations to your father in law who right now is
completing his final day as a commercial airline pilot, which
is a cool thing. I did it you have a
final flight. So he was at the party last night.
He flew up to the northeast and he's got friends
(14:35):
and family. It's pretty cool. I didn't know you had
like a final flight kind of experience. Twenty seven years
flying for American Airlines, super before that a naval aviator
flying F eighteens. So he is he is currently up
in the in New York at a New York airport.
He'll be flying back down to South Florida tonight. That
will be that leg will be his his last, his
(14:58):
last flight.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Will put some some fun photos up of the flat
Lee crew, sell It family celebrating in the cockpit and
and everything else because they they went along. I'm working today,
but my wife and her and her sisters and you know,
the rest of the family, they're they're all that's super cool.
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Did you know that commercial airline pilots had a tradition
like that on their final flight.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I never heard of. I think it's I think it's great.
I think it's great. So he'll he's gonna make a
little speech, probably to the passengers, so they'll get a
nice moment. You know, they'll get a real, a real
hallmark moment on the way down as we enter this
holiday season where they'll he'll give his final sign off
over the PA you know where they do like, hey,
it's seventy five degrees breezy, and I've been flying for
(15:44):
twenty seven years, and you know, he'll get into it.
So that was really, really, really cool. And we're going
to go out tonight and celebrate that hopefully I will
still have a voice left. I I gotta tell you
you're losing it here a little bit. It's a little
husky in a voice, a little husky. It was loud,
It was loud. Last night we had live jazz. We
had live jazz, which was fun and it was it
(16:04):
was boisterous, and I think that, you know, the saxophone
should make a comeback. I'm just gonna tell you I'm
a sax guy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's a dangerous phrase on the radio, but it reminds
me the saxophone guy. Was there no flutes? I thought
I might walk in and there'd just being I wanted
a little Jethro Tall Actually yeah, not least. I thought
there might be a flute ensemble performance there for my benefit.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
But I did not see any flutes.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
By the way, this is super cool with Carrie in
the cockpit, So planbuck dot com so those you want
to see some of the photos of the final twenty
seven years flying and today's the last flight, so check
it out. I know producer Alley's jealous because she's still
in love with the shirtless saxophone player from Lost Boys.
If you remember that unbelievable, incredible scene from the festival
(16:57):
the park amusement park. Guy there, that's one of the
iconic nineteen eighties, eighties movie scenes. You just have a
super ripped, shirtless saxophone player just going to town there
at the amusement park, as one does. And uh and
so yeah, it was. It was just an awesome It
was a fun it was a fun event. Our buddy
Alexi L. Wallace right before he gets into the full sprint
(17:18):
of the World Cup hanging out with us as well.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Lots of guests. Carol Markowitz, Michael Barry, buddy from Houston.
He made the He made the trip all the way
from Houston with his with his wonderful wife, so they
were celebrating with us last night. Dave Rutherford from the
Clay and Buck podcast network was there. We've got a
whole whole bunch of folks. I can't reader. We had
(17:41):
eighty eighty something people. Yeah, so, I mean it was
you know, it was it was festive. It was festive.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, it was outstanding. It was super super fun. So
I'm appreciative that you guys were able to do that.
And again I'm excited for your father in law and
that that final flight.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Fuck Sexton show as we
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Melodic holiday tunes. There you know, Gavin.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Newsom Buck has surged to the top of the likely
Democrat nominees for twenty twenty eight. If you look at
the polymarket or Calshi prediction markets out there, he has
opened up a really kind of prohibitive lead on being
the nominee. And as part of that, he's gotten pretty
nasty on social media. I think initially he was trying
(19:27):
to do a version of Donald Trump, and then he
has now just kind of I think seen the algorithm
reward his nastiness, and this I thought was particularly nasty.
I don't know if you saw this. It's starting to
go a little bit viral. Gavin Newsom said, I believe
yesterday that he wanted there to be basically more trans kids.
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And I think most people out there, whatever your thoughts
are on trans related issues, would not want miners making
choices that could be so debility hating to their bodies,
and certainly is makes their lives more challenging. Here was
the quote, I want to see trans kids. There's no
governor that's done more pro trans legislation than I have.
(20:13):
That is Gavin Newsom and Elon Musk responded, and so,
first of all, Gavin Newsom says, correct. Elon shared that
that clip and said this was the wrong decision. Gavin
Newsom responded and said correct, We're sorry your daughter hates you,
(20:33):
Elon Gavin Newsom's official Twitter acaunt that's ugly. Okay, So
Elon said again, I don't want there being more trans kids.
It's not a good policy. So then Gavin Newsom says,
We're sorry your daughter hates you. Here's what Elon Musk
responded here recently, just in the last few hours. I
assume you're referring to my son Xavier, who has a
(20:55):
tragic mental illness caused by the evil woke mind virus
you push on vulnerable children. I love Xavier very much
and hope he recovers. My daughters are Azure, Iksa and Arcadia,
and they do indeed love me very much. But that's
(21:17):
really unbelievably nasty from Gavin Newsom to say we're sorry
your daughter hates you.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So can we go there for a second. Didn't Gavin
Newsom sleep with his best friend slash campaign manager's wife. Yes,
that's a pure scumbag move. Yes, that's really all you
have to know about someone's character. And that's not even
taking into account the fact that Gavin Newsom is a walking, talking,
lying BS machine and always has been. But this is
(21:48):
not a guy who should be taking shots at people's
First off, didn't his wife sue Harvey Weinstein and lose?
There was a lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I don't remember the specifics, but his wife was involved.
I thought she maybe was said she was a victim
of Harvey Weinstein in some former fashion. I think she
was an actress, and so I think that was kind
of the background story on that. His first wife was
Donald Trump Junior. Kimberly Gilfoy, right, was his first wife.
(22:22):
They got divorced, and now the second wife is is
you know the one who threw in the towel If
you remember during the debate against Ron DeSantis, that was
that was a moment where so she.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Newsom's wife testified against Weinstein in the Los Angeles trial.
She accused him of rape. She did not personally sue
him in a civil lawsuit, so pardon me. I want
to make sure I get this right. But participated in
another lawsuit as an accuser or another case rather as
an accuser. She gave testimony about this, and yeah, of
(22:55):
course wein. Weinstein's defense was that everything with her was
was transactional and consensual. He was not. This is what
He was not convicted in the case where she was
a witness, not that she there was a non conviction there.
She was a witness in the case there was a
non conviction, and I thought she had sued him civilly,
but that's not that is not correct. She was a
(23:15):
witness against him as well. So those are the facts
of that.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But you know, the Gavin knew some trans angle because
he got a lot of attention. If you remember when
he had Charlie kirk On as a guest on his
podcast and he gave that answer of I get that,
you know, you can do your evil Keanu Reeves impersonation
of him. But he tried to address men playing women's
sports and he said, yeah, I get that, you know,
(23:38):
and basically tried to dodge around addressing it by saying,
that's a reasonable perspective to have. I get why a
parent could have. He didn't actually say he disagreed with it.
He just said, hey, that's an opinion you could have.
And now he's saying that he's in favor of there
being more trans kids. This is I think an awful battle,
both politically and more for Democrats. We talk about how
(24:01):
sometimes political and moral are different.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Here, I think everyone out there who was saying, hey,
let's wait, let's let kids develop before we start having
all these trans surgeries committed on them. For Gavin Newsom
to be encouraging trans kids, for him to be saying
that Elon Musk's kid hates him. Uh and uh, I
just I think we can look look for this to
(24:25):
become even more of an issue going forward. I think
it's going to be. I think it's going to be
a mess and uh. And he's going to fight on
this and transing kids being a good thing.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
He has no I think that if he could walk
away from that issue, he he would, But he can't
because he's going to be bludgeoned by and he should be,
by Republicans on it. But the Democrat left will not
give up on that issue. They will they will not
walk away on that issue. And I guess at some
(24:58):
level it is almost like, you know, climate change has
really faded so much, the trans sex identity stuff has
I think replaced that as the religion of choice for
the religion replacement really for people on the left in
this country, they feel like there's something Instead of it
being saving the earth, it's a civil rights strung right,
it's saving humanity. It's the great humanitarian approach. The tragic
(25:22):
part about it is well, climate change does a lot
of damage too, but it's mostly financial and freedom damage.
They're hurting kids with this stuff. They are doing irreparable
damage to children, and a lot of doctors and a
lot of people in the medical field are just too
cowardly to say with that, what's really going on? Look,
all you really have to know about this issue? I
(25:44):
shouldn't say all you have to know, but a really
good I think Shorthand Clay is the guy who ran
the Johns Hopkins what they used to call sex change
surgery clinic. He's pretty well known guy. He's much older
guy now I think he's still around, but ran it
for decades. After all that was like, I, this is
not a good idea, and this is for adults, not
for children. For adults, it's like, this is not not
(26:05):
a good idea medically, it's medically unsound. And then had
to really disappear. He might've even apologize or said, oh,
I shouldn't have said that or something, But it's just
because people are psychos about this stuff and they threaten you.
You get death. Think about this. There are people who
give you death threats and as many people on the
right have found this out unfortunately the hard way. Well,
let's be honest. One of the biggest issues for the
(26:27):
Charlie Kirk alleged assassin who's in court today is what
Charlie Kirk was saying about trans. Yes, and look at
the shooter in the school in Tennessee and in Minneapolity
and in Minneapolis. So it's not just threats. I wanted
to be clear, it's not just threats about the trans issue.
It is actual violence in the name of pushing this
(26:51):
really demonic process of putting kids, putting kids through this.
It's Look, there should be federal laws to prevent them. Oh,
think about the federal laws that do exist to protect
kids that are far you we're talking about things like
tobacco or yes, things that are far less. You know,
if you smoke a cigarette and not gonna fall over
and die. I'm not advocating for kids to smoke, but
(27:12):
you're going to have sex change operation surgery. I they
can call a gender affirmation all day long. It was
called sex change surgery until about five minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
They need to have some of these kids that are
deciding as they get older that this shouldn't have been done.
They need to have class action lawsuits because I think
juries if you got these kids in front of the
jury and they said, hey, I was eleven or twelve
years old, I didn't know what I was doing. I
was thirteen, I was fourteen, and I permanently sterilized myself.
(27:40):
I mean, I think some of these juries could deliver
verdicts worth hundreds of millions of dollars in damages and
against some of these doctors and hospitals that have been
encouraging this.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And I think it would end almost overnight.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Because of the risk that they would have going forward
from these kinds of lawsuits. Because kids can't consent to
you know, a minor can't consent to all of the
decisions that they're making.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So there was I know this is going to seem
like a digression, but I believe it was. Zia Al
hak was the president, really the dictator of Pakistan in
the eighties around the time of the Soviet Afghan War,
and it was under his regime that there was an
effort to, if memory serves, to medicalize amputation surgery for crimes,
(28:30):
or rather to medicalize amputation for crimes by doing it
as a surgery. So instead I remember you talking about it,
instead of cutting off your hand for stealing with a
scimitar or whatever, a hatchet or something, it was Okay,
we're going to surgically remove it. But a lot of
the Pakistani doctors at the time were actually Western trained.
A lot of them were getting their training in the West.
You know that the people that could conduct those kinds
(28:52):
of surgeries and there they weren't willing to do it. Yes,
good for them, but I mean, this is not a
thing that was actually happening, even though it was a
policy that was being talked about at one point. There's
some dispute as to whether you know, they ever were
really going to intentionally do this or not. But I
do believe that there are a lot of doctors who would,
on ethical grounds refuse to do things because their profession
(29:13):
is supposed to be about healing and helping and do
no harm is a very good first principle for medicine.
You're doing harm to a fourteen year old girl that
you are removing breasts from or giving sterilizing hormones to.
Hormones are incredibly powerful for your sense of well being,
for your overall health, for a lot of things. And
(29:34):
to mess with that clay and not really know where
it's taking somebody is It's just it's reckless and it's wrong.
So the fact that Gavin Newsom is firmly on the
wrong side of this issue is not surprising. And also
we got to he never said, remember we had that
interview with Charlie. Actually he never said that he was
that that's right, he's against the trans thing. He just
(29:55):
he said something that kind of left it open ended.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I would also point this, I am looking at some
of the pictures from the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk.
Maybe it's coincidental, but the tie that he wore in
his court hearing yesterday is the same colors as the
trans flag. I don't know. Again, maybe it's coincidental. But
(30:21):
if you google what the trans flag looks like and
then you look at the tie that he selected for
his court appearance today, it is the exact same colors.
Now again, maybe maybe they will have maybe they will
have some element of saying that's a coincidence, but you know,
(30:42):
you're going to be in public, it seems you know,
I yeah, probably intentional.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
As getting up along the lines of like if you
happen to have an M and it happened to have
an S and happened to have a thirteen tattooed on
your knuckles. I mean, it's technically not proof that you're
an MS thirteen, but it's kind of proof that you're
an thirteen, right, I mean, you know, you could make
the argument that it's some kind of weird and I
know that they say, oh, is it even you know,
it's like another letter, you know, it's like the Spanish version.
(31:08):
Who whatever the point is. Yeah, some at some echelon
of analysis, the coincidence is far too powerful for it
to actually be coincidence. You know, we were talking about
protecting kids and that should stretch all the way down
to the unborn, to babies and baby's in the womb.
This is where Preborn comes in. It's that time of
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Lots lots of travel going on, lots of kids getting
up early in the morning for that Christmas morning, and
maybe you're sleeping a little bit on a bed that's
not necessarily your normal bed because you're traveling, or you're
moving everybody around.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
The one Miss Clay for the holiday party last night.
The one thing that I really was like, oh man,
we had a special little baby speed Christmas outfit all well,
Carrie obviously had picked this out and he looked so
cute and so Christmasy, like a little Santa's elf basically,
and like he had like little Christmas leader hozen on
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basic and we brought him to the party and he
was so cute. And then as soon as the noise
and everything else, man, he was just hard pass. He
was not too many people, too much noise. He was
ready to bail. He was done. We got him to
the threshold of the party and he threw a tantrum
like I haven't seen in a while, and I was like,
(35:41):
all right, all right, you know, he hit the eject button.
We tried some people not made for partying, at least
not an eight months old. So we're just to be clear.
We weren't going to keep him at the point. We
just wanted to do one round. Soever we could take
a photo of him looking all cute, but anyways, he
didn't the last His royal chunkiness has made a full recovery.
He's doing fun in Katie, Texas. Got a Gavin Newsom
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take for us. Will what you got? Hey, guys, another
show and I know Russ is a smile on you
guys with the great work y'all doing for the conservative movements.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Thank you. I wanted I wanted to make an observation.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Can we please refer to Gavin Newscomb go forward?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Is greasy? Uh, Gavin McK newscomb, because he reminds me.
His personality reminds me a lot of Shooting McGavin from
Happy Kilmore. You remember how Happy Fillmore, I mean shooting
McGavin treated his fans. He said, go back to your shanties.
You know when he got frustrated with him.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
If they happy to Gilmore two just came out. I
didn't think it was that bad. A lot of people
disagreed with me, but I do love that shooting. McGavin
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