October 28, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck dive into the hottest political and cultural stories shaping America just one week before Election Day 2025. The hour kicks off with a discussion on the upcoming elections in New York City, Virginia, and New Jersey, emphasizing the stakes and voter turnout trends. Clay shares a personal anecdote about voting locally and previews an interview with Riley Gaines, who recently faced backlash from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over her stance on protecting women’s sports.
The conversation quickly pivots to the New York City mayoral race, spotlighting controversial candidate Zohran Mamdani. Clay and Buck dissect Mamdani’s shifting narratives, including his disputed claims about Islamophobia post-9/11 and radical past statements such as “Defund the NYPD” and linking police to the IDF. They analyze why voters seem unfazed by these revelations and criticize Andrew Cuomo’s lackluster campaign strategy. The hosts warn that Mamdani’s progressive platform—featuring ideas like government-run grocery stores and fare-free buses—reflects a dangerous trend toward socialist policies that could devastate city infrastructure and small businesses.
Beyond politics, the hour touches on national security and the war on drugs, reporting on U.S. military strikes against fentanyl-laden cartel boats in the Pacific. Clay and Buck frame this as a major escalation in America’s fight against drug trafficking. They also break down the ongoing government shutdown, explaining how Senate Democrats have blocked multiple GOP bills to reopen the government, potentially leveraging the crisis to boost turnout in key gubernatorial races. The hosts highlight looming consequences, including funding lapses for SNAP benefits and the broader debate over food stamps, obesity, and fraud in welfare programs.
Adding cultural flavor, Clay and Buck revisit Michelle Obama’s “food desert” initiatives, exposing why past government efforts to change eating habits failed. They argue that free-market principles outperform central planning, especially in industries like grocery retail with razor-thin margins. The hour closes with lighter moments—Clay’s commitment to wear a red beret if Curtis Sliwa wins, Buck joking about a doggy-paddle contest with Riley Gaines, and a quick nod to the World Series, where the Dodgers lead Toronto after a dramatic Freddie Freeman home run.
This first hour delivers sharp analysis on election integrity, progressive politics, crime and policing, economic policy, and cultural battles, making it a must-listen for anyone tracking the future of New York City and America’s political landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay and Buck one week exactly
until we are officially on the election day of twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Go vote, Virginia, Go vote New York City, Go vote.
I know there are other elections taking place. I voted
for Aldermen today in my town of Franklin, Tennessee. So
a lot of different aspects underway as we move into
the election season of twenty twenty five, and in particular,
(00:38):
by the way, we'll talk with our friend Riley Gaines,
who AOC decided to attack out of nowhere over swimming.
I sometimes I attack. Was texting with Riley yesterday when
this happened that a lot of these attacks seem like
gifts because so many of the people that are attacking
Riley for just saying men shouldn't be involved in women's sports.
(01:02):
I can't believe that this has become such a Democrat
Party orthodoxy that AOC would decide kind of out of
nowhere to just start tweeting at Riley Gaines angrily about
her past swimming successes.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Speaking of swimming, I went for a rare dip in
the Atlantic Ocean technically Biscayne Bay over the weekend, and
right around the same time, there was, in fact a
shark attack.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Play. Yes, forty six year old guy got attacked.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You sent me the link and I was looking at it,
and uh, I mean, can you imagine if you had
gotten attacked by a shark after all our show?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is why discussion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm just saying, this is this is I'm starting to
worry about your Alcatraz swim a little bit here, buddy,
which we've already committed to, and I'm going to be
in that launch boat cheering you on, nice and warm
with my Crockett hot Coco where we're going to start
making by then.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But this guy I believe was snorkeling and it looked
like he tried to touch the shark, which is a
bad idea. Well, that's very, very different. It was not
a predatory attack. It was ay, leave me alone, bite
on the hand and he had to go to the hospital.
But technically a shark attack not far from where I
was swimming.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
On Sunday, I was walking into church. This is hundred
percent true.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Guy I had not met before comes up and he
says that he is part of a long distance swimming
team and they have been hearing us talk about he
had swam Catalina, he had swam from Alcatraz, and they
do regular long training sessions and he was offering his
skill set and his team to me as a training companion.
(02:45):
This is I mean legitimately. As I am walking into
church on Sunday, this gentleman I had never met before
came up and he wanted me to know that he
had my back on the swims and that he and
the team were ready to assist as necessary. And I
told him, I said, well, I'm kind of getting a
little bit terrified, not of the swim, but that I'm
(03:05):
tempting fate and I'm going to be eaten by a shark.
And he told me that I would be fine, So
I hope he's right. But yeah, you narrowly avoided attack
on a swim in Biscayn Bay. Speaking of attack Buck,
I cannot believe that New York City is really going
(03:28):
to elect Zora on Mamdanni. And the more videos I watch,
the more deep dive I do on his life story.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm not sure there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Has ever been a more transparent liar that has accomplished
nothing in his life that is poised for an election victory.
Like Mam Donnie is thirty five years old, never really
done anything of any significance in his life, was raised
(04:02):
in Uganda, and unbelievably, twenty four years after nine to eleven,
we really have hit the Norm McDonald joke where everyone
now says, oh, can you imagine on the left the
Islamophobia that so many victims of nine to eleven had
to deal with, And Mom Donnie claimed to have an
(04:23):
aunt that was afraid to wear her hijab on the
New York City metro after the nine to eleven terror attack,
and now after it was pointed out that the ant
story couldn't possibly have been true.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He now says it wasn't his aunt.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It was actually his father's cousin who passed away a
few years ago. This is after he was caught in
the lie on an ant. Let's play this cut to please,
I was.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Speaking about my aunts.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I was speaking about Santa Lui, my father's cousin, sadly.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And for the takeaway for my more than ten minute
address about Islamophobia in this race and in the city
to be, the question of my aunt tells you everything
about Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, why does that?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean if I said to you Buck something that
I mean, I've got two ants that both deceased, But
if I said something very specific about their life story
and a point in my political career, it wouldn't be
unfair for people to say, Okay, tell me about these
ants of yours.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, he made it an issue. Yeah, this is the
Jesse Smalllett. How dare you question me when I'm caught
in my lie?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, yeah, actually that's how this works. A few things
on this clay. One is the lack of first Islamophobia
as a nonsense term. I think Christopher Hitchins once said
it's like a nonsense term used used by thugs to
silence idiots, or something like that. It was Essentially the
whole point of Islamophobia is to create some word that
(06:06):
shuts down criticism of aspects of a faith that now
has about two billion adherents worldwide and is certainly something
that people should be allowed to discuss. Phobia is an
irrational fear of There was a period of time where
there was plenty of rational fear of radicalized elements from
within the Islamic world, and by the way, there still
(06:26):
is plenty of rational discussion to be had about elements
of the Islamic world that are a problem for Western
civilization and for the State of Israel, for America, for
a whole bunch of things. Okay, but putting that aside,
for a second couple of things. One is I mentioned
this yesterday. It is to America's extreme credit that there
(06:48):
was so little to the American people, There was so
little actual Islamic bigotry on display here after nine to eleven.
Given the scope scale of those attacks and the continued
attacks that happened, this is something that gets lost in
this discussion.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Clay, there were further.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Gee hottiest mass murders of Americans that went on for
the better part of two decades here. It's kind of
slowed down in the last few years, but it was
a regular thing. Oh another you know, bomb goes off somewhere,
or someone's run down ten people for no reason in
the street, and a mass murder attack. And so with
all of that going on, and we had multiple wars
(07:27):
and counterinsurgency operations going on against Islamist elements, and a
you know, billions and billions of dollars spent on security,
we effectively have airport security lines because of Islamic radicalism.
Thanks Islamic radicalism. With all of that, they still have
to make up stories like this, Zorn Mamdani. He's not
(07:47):
telling a story about something that would be truly horrific
and wrong. Oh my gosh, the fire bombing of a
mosque that occurred on you know, in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right, No, none of that happened.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But he's a theater kid cosplaying a radical, and so
it's totally normal for him to make up the story
of the aunt who, among hundreds of thousands of Muslims
in New York City, was the one who was too
scared to ride the subway with her job. Give me
a break, dude, Clay. The guy's are fake and he's
a phony, but the people voting for him don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, well, let me hit you with a couple of
more clips that continue to get attention. This is in
September of twenty twenty three. I know most of you
know this, but maybe you've got friends or family out there.
I just saw a report buck that New York City's
mayoral race is on track for the highest turnout since
(08:41):
nineteen ninety three. That was the Rudy Giuliani win, so
wr people in New York City are woken up. There
is a lot of enthusiasm, there's a lot of interest here.
Let me play a couple of these cuts from Mom Donnie.
This is September of twenty twenty three. We have to
(09:02):
make clear this is a quote that when the boot
of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been laced
by the IDF. This is Mom Donnie again, cut three
September twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
The imports for me of international solidarity is that it
takes me out of the American political landscape. That reminds
me just how team some of the pigs are that
aren't actually calling for or and it reminds me of
the necessity of grounding ourselves with the struggles as opposed
through the fights around the starts. For anyone to care
(09:39):
about these issues, we have to make them hype. We
have to make clear that when the food of the
MIP is on your neck, it's been laced by the ideas.
We're in a country where those connections abound, especially in
New York City, you have so many opportunities to make
(10:01):
clear the ways in which fast trouble over there is
tied to capitalists that.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You're sober heated.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, let me play one more buck. And again he said,
when the NYPD boot is on your throat, it has
been laced by the IDF. Here he is in twenty
twenty saying we don't need police. They don't create safety.
We need to take the money and defund the NYPD.
(10:29):
This is about as direct as you can be cut
thirty three.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We need to defund these institutions. And I say that
as somebody who has grown up in this city, who
has seen what these cops can do, and who has
seen the ways in which that police have been integrated
into every part of our lives. And we had them
in our high school, so we had them in our
middle schools. We do not need police to be in
these places. They do not create safety. We need to
(10:54):
take this money, defund the NYPD, and refund the people.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, this is pretty straightforward.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
The guy has told you what at least he thought
was popular at the time, which is he's a shape
shifting amba that is just an actor more than anything else.
I think here's the truth, Clay. It's like when they
hit him with all these ads, all Cuomo has run.
Cuomo's run a garbage campaign relative to what it should
have been for a guy who you can tell that
(11:22):
he's a Nepo baby who became governor because daddy was governor,
and he has a last name that New York has recognized.
He was a horrible governor. By the way, He's not
a good campaigner. He's actually not a talented politician. He
has not run a good campaign in the City of
New York at all. And as I've said, if Mamdanni's
an f as mayor in waiting, Cuomo is maybe a
(11:43):
C minus better better, but not great, not great at all.
And I think that the attacks on Mamdanni's saying he
doesn't have enough experience, the people voting for him don't care,
and the attacks on Mamdani that you and I are
are now leveling, which is that he's clearly a woke
(12:03):
radical leftist who is anti Copp at his core, Clay.
They've already gotten around this by saying, you know, he
believed that. Then he's apologized. He'll keep Jessica Tish in
her role as NYPD commissioner, whom everyone respects and by
the way, people do respect. But how long does he
keep her in that role, and does he allow her
to actually do the job the way she wants to.
(12:24):
Does she end up resigning in a year in frustration
because she's handcuffed, so to speak, from doing the job
the way that she should, even if she's kept in
that role the clay that requires a degree of political wisdom,
insight and foresight that you and I and all of
you with us now have. But the Mondani voters don't.
(12:45):
They're just gonna excuse whatever they have to excuse. And
by the way, a lot of them think that he's
just fooling some of the normies and is still every
bit the radical and they like that, right. So yeah,
you know, you know, we're preaching to the choir on
how anti copy is, but they're playing this game very well.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In the Mam Donnie campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We will play another couple of cuts, including Mam Donnie's
dad saying that Hitler learned everything he knows from Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Again, these are directed, I would be news to Abraham Lincoln,
which is the most amazing thing. Abe would be like, WHOA,
I didn't know that I learned everything, or rather that
I taught that. He was the inspiration for Naziedom. According
to Mam Donnie's dad, this is what he's been raised
to believe. And this race again, there's data out there
(13:35):
that suggests that we may be headed for the highest
turnout in a mayoral race since nineteen ninety three. So
maybe there is hope that I could be wearing a
red beret for a week. On the program, Curtis ly
was going to join us tomorrow and make the case
for why I'm a moron, and some of you have
us already signed on to that. We'll play some fun
(13:56):
feedback on that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Speaker 3 (15:04):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're deep diving into
the big mayoral race at New York City because the
whole country is looking to see if Kami Mamdani can
pull this thing out.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Or if Kuomo is going to be a maya who
is perhaps better than a governor because he was a
horrible governor.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We will get into all of that here.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And also a sor a note Clay seeing the Eastern
Pacifics are really the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Mexico.
Because the Pacific Ocean, sobey you say, strikes in the Pacific.
It's like where we're off the coast of Guam here.
Pacific's a very big place off the coast of Mexico.
Three now three ships blown up by American military. Drug
(15:48):
cartel ships basically go fast boats laden with fentanyl blown up,
and I.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Believe fourteen fourteen killed it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
In sets a point now, Buck, where I don't don't
think there's anyone who is involved in transit of drugs
on shipping boats in that area that isn't thinking constantly
this could be the last moment of my life when
they're won those boats. We're gonna talk more about that
because this is a is obviously a major escalation. But
(16:17):
all the mom Donnie bringing us back to this mom
Donnie discussion, some very student analysis coming in via the talkbacks.
Here is a female podcast listener AA who has a
message that I haven't heard yet for Clay, but I'm
told it is salty.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Absolutely absurd.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
There has to be a Republican.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Fighting, fighting, fighting for New York.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
What are you thinking about you?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh, Clay, I don't think, Clay, you don't think I
don't think my oral campaign's going very well?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Buck, That is uh what was her name? Do we
know a name? There? No, nod did not give her name.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
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You know you better not go for a long walk
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Travis and the Five Boroughs and Nassau County, but right now,
(17:21):
I don't know getting salty.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Look, I will wear my red beret with pride if
Curtis Slee.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Wi wins and.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We're gonna continue to attack Mom Donnie because he is
an awful choice.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And Curtis Lee was going to be on with us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
As Buck has said, Cuobo has not run a good
campaign and he's put himself in this position. The Democrats
have put themselves in this position. So I'm gonna play
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not lying to you. I don't think he's a left
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getting this close to major office.
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Welcome back in on shutdown Watch. For the thirteenth time,
a Republican bill seeking to reopen the government has been
blocked by Senate Democrats. The defectors, just to kind of
keep you updated as the lockdown shutdown continues. John Fetterman
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Cortes Mastow from Nevada, I believe, and King, one of
the senators from Maine voted in favor of it. That's
three Democrats and that gets us to fifty six, meaning
in order to effectively open the government, we need sixty votes,
and if my math is correct, we are still for
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short of being able to do that. And so this
is something that I think continues to play itself out
at this point.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I think the calculus clearly is that Democrats have decided
they want the government shut down, maybe to help juice
turn out in what they believe are must win governor's
races in New Jersey and in Virginia. And so I
don't think anything's going to change till after November fourth.
I also think that after November fourth, the question becomes,
(20:16):
as we come up on Thanksgiving, are they going to
reopen anything prior to Thanksgiving? And part of me just
thinks the answer is going to be no. Now Trump
is in Japan, I don't know if we mentioned that
off the top, but he remains in Asia, and I
just don't think there's a lot of pressure being brought
to bear to get anything to change. So that is
the reality of where we are. Democrats have decided that
(20:38):
absence an actual message, absence a political platform to try
to counter and and be constructive in what they would
offer as governance, they just are going for full on sabotage.
And to your point about how the election's coming up,
this certainly is a huge part of really all of
(21:02):
I would say, the calculations the Democrats are making right now.
Food stamps are about to run out. I know we're
supposed to call it a snap now. It has a
catchy title Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program food stamps, free food
for people, food welfare is really what it is that
is about to shut down, meaning that they're going to
run out of money for this, and so far there
(21:24):
is no contingency in place for it, so there are
This is amazingly, there are forty million people in this
country who run food stamps.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
This is this is the honest question. How many of
those people do you think actually need food stamps in
order to be able to successfully live? And the reason
I asked that question is my suspicion is that the
food stamp world is rife with tons of corruption, and
(21:59):
we just that lay allowed it to expand and expand.
And many of the people that are on food stamps
are actually morbidly obese, which means they're not actually struggling
to feed themselves, right like, there isn't a deep it's
not a calorie it's not a calorie deficit, correct that
anyone is in. Well, this also goes to the way
I remember you were lied to, all of you. You
(22:21):
were lied to by the New York Times and others
when they said that there was mass starvation in Gaza.
Just to be clear, there was no mass starve. There
was no starvation period. No one was starving. There was
what they call food insecurity and nutritional deficiency, which one
I think probably existed in Gaza before the War two,
(22:42):
the nutritional deficiency part of it. And to Clay, something
like forty million Americans in this country are considered food insecure.
They're on food stamps. So there's all these ways that
they Starvation is a horrific one of the most horrific
things that a human being can suffered through. It's a
very specific thing, which is not enough foo food for
your function, for your system to function, and it will
(23:02):
kill you.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Not having.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know, whatever food you want, in whatever quantity you
want is a different problem, a different thing. And to
your point about obesity and the supplemental Nutritional Assistance program,
there's always this fight over wool. Can it cover soda?
Can it cover effectively just sugar and empty calories. We
have a huge type two diabetes problem along with the
obese problem. Those things go hand in hand in this country.
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But we the actual program estimates Clay that it's about
eleven or twelve billion dollars of just straight fraud in
that program, eleven or twelve billion, and that's what the
government thinks. So what the real number is, who knows.
But beyond that, the fact that we are the wealthiest
country in the world and we have forty million people
on food stamps is indicative of something. It's indicative of
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a dependency that the government has created and fostered with
no end in sight. And that's not a good thing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
We have more than enough calories for everybody. There's more
than enough ways to get food for everybody. And if
you see what people are buying with food stamps and
a lot of you know, you see people.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I see it in a grocery store.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I shop people using EVT cards and they're getting soda
and potato chips. Yeah, And people can say, oh, that's
so classist or something, but that's what they're buying. Well,
here's an easy question. If you could wave a magic
wand in this society, do you think we have a
bigger issue in America with obesity or with starvation? Would
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anyone say that we have an issue with starvation in
America or obesity? Like if you could wave a magic
wand and solve one of those things, which would be
the healthier thing to be able to solve. If we
cut obesity in half in this country, buck, I bet
our overall medical cost would decline by half as well. Right,
(24:55):
Obesity is a huge signifier of significant health related issues.
So if you were out there right now and I
gave you a magic wand, then I said, there are
lots of countries, by the way, where you would say, oh, no,
we one hundred percent need to address starvation. There are
people who have truly not enough food to be able
to survive. That is not this country. We have so
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much food in fact, that our bigger issue is we
have way too many fat people relative to the overall population,
and a lot of those people are using, to your point,
these food stamp policies to go and buy super unhealthy
food that makes them unhealthier, and we're all subsidizing it.
(25:38):
And you can argue, okay, well why would you you know,
freedom of They should be able to buy anything they
want with their food stamp, but we're subsidizing it. So
I do think it's worth asking as taxpayers, a is
this a policy? Is this a program that is getting
good value? I know, well, I promise we'll come back
to Kamim Mamdani, But this actually goes to a lot
(25:58):
of things, because he's talking about grocery restores, for example,
and how we need to have city, city run grocery
stores that have the basically don't run for their nonprofits.
They've tried this, just to be clear, in different places
they have pilot programs. There's always a disaster. Guess what
you find out. Nobody in the city run grocery store
cares at the shore, at the shelves are bare, Nobody
(26:20):
cares if the produce actually looks good. Nobody cares because
no one's making any money and they get paid the
same whether there's bread on the shelves or not. But
even beyond that, a little trip down memory lane, because
I found this fascinating because this affected New York City
way back in the day the Obama administration. Claire, remember
Michelle Obamas Let's Move campaign. There was along with that
when she was first lady. I'm taking you back a decade, folks,
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there was a food desert, a whole food desert thing.
You know, you don't hear that term very much anymore.
And the whole premise of the food desert was low
income people. They're obviously not starving. Right to your point
is it's not that there's no food, but they don't
have access to lean, lean cuts of steak and organic
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chalade and and the thing, you know, these things that
are generally considered more kind of upper end income lifestyle
food choices. So they created this pilot program where not
only did they bring in farmers market produce into New
York City, New York Times had all these stories on this.
The reason there's a reason, I'm gonna tell you why
you don't hear about this anymore. Farmer's market produce into
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all of these different cities or all of these different
stores rather subsidized a clay. The government said, we're gonna
make this.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Army wants you to.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Make healthier choices, so we're gonna make the healthier choices cheaper.
So they truck the food into these low income neighborhoods.
There's a whole pr campaign around letting people know, Hey,
you can get all the archisanal wildflower honey you want now,
you know, to tell everybody in low income neighborhoods of
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New York and bring it. So what's artificially cheaper? So
now it's not oh, I have to get like the
off brand potato chips because there now it's oh my gosh,
I can do you know how much they were able
to change the buying habits in these neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Zero. They were not able to statistically, in.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Any way measure any change in the buying habits of
So unless you're going to force feed low income people
the quote healthy, organic, blah blah, all that stuff, they
just want to eat.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What they want to eat.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I think there's very important lessons here about the free
market and about economics and choice and central planning. And
you look at someone like mom Donnie he's saying, I
want to set up government owned grocery stores Clay. They
had those in the Soviet Union. It did not work
out well. Have them in Cuba now to get meat.
They have them in Cuba.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Every now and then you will see video of all
the people in Cuba lining up up to try to
go into their government run stores. They're never anything on
the shelves. And this is again, this goes to a
just complete failure to understand basic business. If you were
going to go in business, A grocery store and many
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of you out there have been involved in this in
the past, has one of the tiniest profit margins of
any business. It is a high volume, low profit based business.
One reason if you walk around and you look at
grocery store shelves that grocery stores themselves produce generic versions
(29:38):
of doritos or generic versions of soda is because that's
much higher profit margin than the brand name, so to
speak out there, and it is just it's akin to
someone saying as sometimes you will hear, oh, these gas
stations the price of gas, or they're making so much money,
(30:02):
and you say, wait a minute, you realize gas stations
make almost no money on gas right, it is a
lost leader. Very often, as many of you who have
run gas stations know, the way that gas stations make
profit is typically off of the store. So when you
walk inside and you buy products, you buy a drink,
or you buy a lottery ticket, or you buy something
(30:23):
in a gas station, that's how the business is run.
And so when you have people like Mamdani and Buck,
you know this better than anybody.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
But one of the.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Toughest places to be bringing product into is New York
City because the streets are narrow like, the trucks are complicated.
The cost of bringing in all that product and trying
to deliver it to so many different stores. It is
one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard from a
politician that they're gonna make groceries more affordable by getting
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the government in the grocery business.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And you have you have the green energy, you know,
climate change maniacs who have decided that we can't have
any more places to park, and we have fewer, fewer lanes,
and we're going to force people onto buses. And now
we're gonna, if Mamdani wins, gonna have buses with no fare.
So they're just going to be traveling homeless terminals that
smell like urin and god knows what else, and they
(31:18):
do all this clay and what happens, And this is
again the cause and effect reality of central planning by
Kami morons. People would be staggered to know how many
parking tickets are written every day in Manhattan in particular,
and how that actually becomes a tax on all businesses
because to get your deliveries, all of your delivery guys
for all of your restaurants and all of your supermarkets
(31:39):
and everything are constantly getting tickets that go to the
city of New York. And so there's an addition that's
just a tax because it raises the cost of delivering
food or raises the cost of delivering goods and services.
All of this made worse by people in city Hall
in New York and by the way, any Democrat city
across the country that's following the similar playbook, it's all
made worse by their decisions all the time. All they
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do is make things worse most of the time. I mean,
that's really what you see. And Mom Donnie is certainly
going to be somebody who falls into that category.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's it's very frustrating.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know what is not frustrating the fact that yesterday
was the Equinox. I was talking with our team here.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Game three was Game three, right, Game three of the
World Series. Last night I wasn't watching. I went to bed.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It went on until two fifty am Eastern. So if
you're listening to us on the East Coast and your
eyes feel a little bleary, it might be because, like
producer Mike here, you stood up, stayed up all night
to be able to watch this game, and that is
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Speaker 3 (33:49):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got a quick
turn here, so we're going to tell you a few
things where we're going to the next hour. One is
we are going to play that clip of mom Donnie's
dad don't at the sins of the father upon the son.
I know that's what they're all going to say, but
Mamdanni's dad saying some really really bad stuff. And it's
only relevant in so far as I think that Mamdani
(34:10):
believes this kind of stuff too.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
He's a radical leftist. He's a radical leftist.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Notice how these radical leftists when they want to get famous,
they'll say all this crazy stuff, but they want to
build their support on the left. And then Clay when
it comes to election time, like.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I'm not a radical. It is amazing guy, Hello, fellow normies.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't believe that Lennon was awesome and that we
should just, you know, destroy capitalism. I'm like totally normal
like you. I love Shark Tank, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
It is.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Extraordinary how quickly they try to disavow all the crazy
things they said to become popular on the left. I mean,
the NYTV NYPD boot on your throat is laced by
the idf is. I mean, it is a crazy line,
(35:02):
but this is the kind of thing he says that
everybody cheers, And I think what you said is important here, Buck,
because now what happens is he comes back and he says, well,
I didn't really mean that. But all the people on
the left who are Mom Donnie fans are quietly among
themselves saying, he's just.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Saying that so he can get elected.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Now he still believes what we do, and we'll see
whether or not he's capable of trying to put any
of these policies in place if he wins. The best
case scenario is actually he's incapable of doing any of this, right.
I think that's a principle in Islamist circles from within
Islam called takia.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Where you are, it is.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Not just morally permissible, you are obligated to lie if
it is in furtherance of the Jihad, just saying it's
a real thing.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's out there. So so.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
But to your point, Clay, leftists have been doing takia
for as long as there's been a left. I mean,
they whatever they got to say, whatever they have to pretend,
especially when it comes to election time. This is how
they gain democracy, right, This is how they get to
the you know, one vote, one man, one time, and
that's the hope here is that eventually they'll be able
(36:15):
to control the whole system. But first mo'm Donnie to
see if he actually wins. Maybe there's a last minute
Cuomo search. We will discuss this. We've also got Ridley
Gaines joining later. I'm gonna challenge her to a doggy
paddle contest because I think that's probably my best stroke.
I think I got doggy paddle lined up. But we're
gonna get into that and we're gonna play some stuff
(36:36):
from Donnie, some craziness. Also, the strikes on the fentanyl votes.
They're really doing this. Folks like I said before, the
war on drugs is not a metaphor anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's a war on drugs. We'll talk about it.
Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay and Buck one week exactly
until we are officially on the election day of twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Go vote, Virginia, Go vote New York City, Go vote.
I know there are other elections taking place. I voted
for Aldermen today in my town of Franklin, Tennessee. So
a lot of different aspects underway as we move into
the election season of twenty twenty five, and in particular,
(00:38):
by the way, we'll talk with our friend Riley Gaines,
who AOC decided to attack out of nowhere over swimming.
I sometimes I attack. Was texting with Riley yesterday when
this happened that a lot of these attacks seem like
gifts because so many of the people that are attacking
Riley for just saying men shouldn't be involved in women's sports.
(01:02):
I can't believe that this has become such a Democrat
Party orthodoxy that AOC would decide kind of out of
nowhere to just start tweeting at Riley Gaines angrily about
her past swimming successes.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Speaking of swimming, I went for a rare dip in
the Atlantic Ocean technically Biscayne Bay over the weekend, and
right around the same time, there was, in fact a
shark attack.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Play. Yes, forty six year old guy got attacked.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You sent me the link and I was looking at it,
and uh, I mean, can you imagine if you had
gotten attacked by a shark after all our show?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
This is why discussion.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm just saying, this is this is I'm starting to
worry about your Alcatraz swim a little bit here, buddy,
which we've already committed to, and I'm going to be
in that launch boat cheering you on, nice and warm
with my Crockett hot Coco where we're going to start
making by then.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But this guy I believe was snorkeling and it looked
like he tried to touch the shark, which is a
bad idea. Well, that's very, very different. It was not
a predatory attack. It was ay, leave me alone, bite
on the hand and he had to go to the hospital.
But technically a shark attack not far from where I
was swimming.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
On Sunday, I was walking into church. This is hundred
percent true.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Guy I had not met before comes up and he
says that he is part of a long distance swimming
team and they have been hearing us talk about he
had swam Catalina, he had swam from Alcatraz, and they
do regular long training sessions and he was offering his
skill set and his team to me as a training companion.
(02:45):
This is I mean legitimately. As I am walking into
church on Sunday, this gentleman I had never met before
came up and he wanted me to know that he
had my back on the swims and that he and
the team were ready to assist as necessary. And I
told him, I said, well, I'm kind of getting a
little bit terrified, not of the swim, but that I'm
(03:05):
tempting fate and I'm going to be eaten by a shark.
And he told me that I would be fine, So
I hope he's right. But yeah, you narrowly avoided attack
on a swim in Biscayn Bay. Speaking of attack Buck,
I cannot believe that New York City is really going
(03:28):
to elect Zora on Mamdanni. And the more videos I watch,
the more deep dive I do on his life story.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm not sure there.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Has ever been a more transparent liar that has accomplished
nothing in his life that is poised for an election victory.
Like Mam Donnie is thirty five years old, never really
done anything of any significance in his life, was raised
(04:02):
in Uganda, and unbelievably, twenty four years after nine to eleven,
we really have hit the Norm McDonald joke where everyone
now says, oh, can you imagine on the left the
Islamophobia that so many victims of nine to eleven had
to deal with, And Mom Donnie claimed to have an
(04:23):
aunt that was afraid to wear her hijab on the
New York City metro after the nine to eleven terror attack,
and now after it was pointed out that the ant
story couldn't possibly have been true.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
He now says it wasn't his aunt.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It was actually his father's cousin who passed away a
few years ago. This is after he was caught in
the lie on an ant. Let's play this cut to please,
I was.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Speaking about my aunts.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I was speaking about Santa Lui, my father's cousin, sadly.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And for the takeaway for my more than ten minute
address about Islamophobia in this race and in the city
to be, the question of my aunt tells you everything
about Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, why does that?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean if I said to you Buck something that
I mean, I've got two ants that both deceased, But
if I said something very specific about their life story
and a point in my political career, it wouldn't be
unfair for people to say, Okay, tell me about these
ants of yours.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, he made it an issue. Yeah, this is the
Jesse Smalllett. How dare you question me when I'm caught
in my lie?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well, yeah, actually that's how this works. A few things
on this clay. One is the lack of first Islamophobia
as a nonsense term. I think Christopher Hitchins once said
it's like a nonsense term used used by thugs to
silence idiots, or something like that. It was Essentially the
whole point of Islamophobia is to create some word that
(06:06):
shuts down criticism of aspects of a faith that now
has about two billion adherents worldwide and is certainly something
that people should be allowed to discuss. Phobia is an
irrational fear of There was a period of time where
there was plenty of rational fear of radicalized elements from
within the Islamic world, and by the way, there still
(06:26):
is plenty of rational discussion to be had about elements
of the Islamic world that are a problem for Western
civilization and for the State of Israel, for America, for
a whole bunch of things. Okay, but putting that aside,
for a second couple of things. One is I mentioned
this yesterday. It is to America's extreme credit that there
(06:48):
was so little to the American people, There was so
little actual Islamic bigotry on display here after nine to eleven.
Given the scope scale of those attacks and the continued
attacks that happened, this is something that gets lost in
this discussion.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Clay, there were further.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Gee hottiest mass murders of Americans that went on for
the better part of two decades here. It's kind of
slowed down in the last few years, but it was
a regular thing. Oh another you know, bomb goes off somewhere,
or someone's run down ten people for no reason in
the street, and a mass murder attack. And so with
all of that going on, and we had multiple wars
(07:27):
and counterinsurgency operations going on against Islamist elements, and a
you know, billions and billions of dollars spent on security,
we effectively have airport security lines because of Islamic radicalism.
Thanks Islamic radicalism. With all of that, they still have
to make up stories like this, Zorn Mamdani. He's not
(07:47):
telling a story about something that would be truly horrific
and wrong. Oh my gosh, the fire bombing of a
mosque that occurred on you know, in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right, No, none of that happened.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But he's a theater kid cosplaying a radical, and so
it's totally normal for him to make up the story
of the aunt who, among hundreds of thousands of Muslims
in New York City, was the one who was too
scared to ride the subway with her job. Give me
a break, dude, Clay. The guy's are fake and he's
a phony, but the people voting for him don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, well, let me hit you with a couple of
more clips that continue to get attention. This is in
September of twenty twenty three. I know most of you
know this, but maybe you've got friends or family out there.
I just saw a report buck that New York City's
mayoral race is on track for the highest turnout since
(08:41):
nineteen ninety three. That was the Rudy Giuliani win, so
wr people in New York City are woken up. There
is a lot of enthusiasm, there's a lot of interest here.
Let me play a couple of these cuts from Mom Donnie.
This is September of twenty twenty three. We have to
(09:02):
make clear this is a quote that when the boot
of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been laced
by the IDF. This is Mom Donnie again, cut three
September twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
The imports for me of international solidarity is that it
takes me out of the American political landscape. That reminds
me just how team some of the pigs are that
aren't actually calling for or and it reminds me of
the necessity of grounding ourselves with the struggles as opposed
through the fights around the starts. For anyone to care
(09:39):
about these issues, we have to make them hype. We
have to make clear that when the food of the
MIP is on your neck, it's been laced by the ideas.
We're in a country where those connections abound, especially in
New York City, you have so many opportunities to make
(10:01):
clear the ways in which fast trouble over there is
tied to capitalists that.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You're sober heated.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Okay, let me play one more buck. And again he said,
when the NYPD boot is on your throat, it has
been laced by the IDF. Here he is in twenty
twenty saying we don't need police. They don't create safety.
We need to take the money and defund the NYPD.
(10:29):
This is about as direct as you can be cut
thirty three.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We need to defund these institutions. And I say that
as somebody who has grown up in this city, who
has seen what these cops can do, and who has
seen the ways in which that police have been integrated
into every part of our lives. And we had them
in our high school, so we had them in our
middle schools. We do not need police to be in
these places. They do not create safety. We need to
(10:54):
take this money, defund the NYPD, and refund the people.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, this is pretty straightforward.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
The guy has told you what at least he thought
was popular at the time, which is he's a shape
shifting amba that is just an actor more than anything else.
I think here's the truth, Clay. It's like when they
hit him with all these ads, all Cuomo has run.
Cuomo's run a garbage campaign relative to what it should
have been for a guy who you can tell that
(11:22):
he's a Nepo baby who became governor because daddy was governor,
and he has a last name that New York has recognized.
He was a horrible governor. By the way, He's not
a good campaigner. He's actually not a talented politician. He
has not run a good campaign in the City of
New York at all. And as I've said, if Mamdanni's
an f as mayor in waiting, Cuomo is maybe a
(11:43):
C minus better better, but not great, not great at all.
And I think that the attacks on Mamdanni's saying he
doesn't have enough experience, the people voting for him don't care,
and the attacks on Mamdani that you and I are
are now leveling, which is that he's clearly a woke
(12:03):
radical leftist who is anti Copp at his core, Clay.
They've already gotten around this by saying, you know, he
believed that. Then he's apologized. He'll keep Jessica Tish in
her role as NYPD commissioner, whom everyone respects and by
the way, people do respect. But how long does he
keep her in that role, and does he allow her
to actually do the job the way she wants to.
(12:24):
Does she end up resigning in a year in frustration
because she's handcuffed, so to speak, from doing the job
the way that she should, even if she's kept in
that role the clay that requires a degree of political wisdom,
insight and foresight that you and I and all of
you with us now have. But the Mondani voters don't.
(12:45):
They're just gonna excuse whatever they have to excuse. And
by the way, a lot of them think that he's
just fooling some of the normies and is still every
bit the radical and they like that, right. So yeah,
you know, you know, we're preaching to the choir on
how anti copy is, but they're playing this game very well.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In the Mam Donnie campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We will play another couple of cuts, including Mam Donnie's
dad saying that Hitler learned everything he knows from Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Again, these are directed, I would be news to Abraham Lincoln,
which is the most amazing thing. Abe would be like, WHOA,
I didn't know that I learned everything, or rather that
I taught that. He was the inspiration for Naziedom. According
to Mam Donnie's dad, this is what he's been raised
to believe. And this race again, there's data out there
(13:35):
that suggests that we may be headed for the highest
turnout in a mayoral race since nineteen ninety three. So
maybe there is hope that I could be wearing a
red beret for a week. On the program, Curtis ly
was going to join us tomorrow and make the case
for why I'm a moron, and some of you have
us already signed on to that. We'll play some fun
(13:56):
feedback on that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Speaker 3 (15:04):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're deep diving into
the big mayoral race at New York City because the
whole country is looking to see if Kami Mamdani can
pull this thing out.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Or if Kuomo is going to be a maya who
is perhaps better than a governor because he was a
horrible governor.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We will get into all of that here.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And also a sor a note Clay seeing the Eastern
Pacifics are really the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Mexico.
Because the Pacific Ocean, sobey you say, strikes in the Pacific.
It's like where we're off the coast of Guam here.
Pacific's a very big place off the coast of Mexico.
Three now three ships blown up by American military. Drug
(15:48):
cartel ships basically go fast boats laden with fentanyl blown up,
and I.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Believe fourteen fourteen killed it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
In sets a point now, Buck, where I don't don't
think there's anyone who is involved in transit of drugs
on shipping boats in that area that isn't thinking constantly
this could be the last moment of my life when
they're won those boats. We're gonna talk more about that
because this is a is obviously a major escalation. But
(16:17):
all the mom Donnie bringing us back to this mom
Donnie discussion, some very student analysis coming in via the talkbacks.
Here is a female podcast listener AA who has a
message that I haven't heard yet for Clay, but I'm
told it is salty.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Absolutely absurd.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
There has to be a Republican.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Fighting, fighting, fighting for New York.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
What are you thinking about you?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Uh, Clay, I don't think, Clay, you don't think I
don't think my oral campaign's going very well?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Buck, That is uh what was her name? Do we
know a name? There? No, nod did not give her name.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But I'm I'm telling you, buddy, you better stay at
a fall rockaway out of sheep said Bay Staten Island.
You know you better not go for a long walk
in ron Konkhama. You know people are upset with you
right now, buddy. You know they usually love the Clay
Travis and the Five Boroughs and Nassau County, but right now,
(17:21):
I don't know getting salty.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Look, I will wear my red beret with pride if
Curtis Slee.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Wi wins and.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
We're gonna continue to attack Mom Donnie because he is
an awful choice.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And Curtis Lee was going to be on with us tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
As Buck has said, Cuobo has not run a good
campaign and he's put himself in this position. The Democrats
have put themselves in this position. So I'm gonna play
a cut. Listen to what this guy is saying. He's
not lying to you. I don't think he's a left
winger of the likes of which we have never seen
getting this close to major office.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
Welcome back in on shutdown Watch. For the thirteenth time,
a Republican bill seeking to reopen the government has been
blocked by Senate Democrats. The defectors, just to kind of
keep you updated as the lockdown shutdown continues. John Fetterman
(19:17):
Cortes Mastow from Nevada, I believe, and King, one of
the senators from Maine voted in favor of it. That's
three Democrats and that gets us to fifty six, meaning
in order to effectively open the government, we need sixty votes,
and if my math is correct, we are still for
(19:40):
short of being able to do that. And so this
is something that I think continues to play itself out
at this point.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I think the calculus clearly is that Democrats have decided
they want the government shut down, maybe to help juice
turn out in what they believe are must win governor's
races in New Jersey and in Virginia. And so I
don't think anything's going to change till after November fourth.
I also think that after November fourth, the question becomes,
(20:16):
as we come up on Thanksgiving, are they going to
reopen anything prior to Thanksgiving? And part of me just
thinks the answer is going to be no. Now Trump
is in Japan, I don't know if we mentioned that
off the top, but he remains in Asia, and I
just don't think there's a lot of pressure being brought
to bear to get anything to change. So that is
the reality of where we are. Democrats have decided that
(20:38):
absence an actual message, absence a political platform to try
to counter and and be constructive in what they would
offer as governance, they just are going for full on sabotage.
And to your point about how the election's coming up,
this certainly is a huge part of really all of
(21:02):
I would say, the calculations the Democrats are making right now.
Food stamps are about to run out. I know we're
supposed to call it a snap now. It has a
catchy title Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program food stamps, free food
for people, food welfare is really what it is that
is about to shut down, meaning that they're going to
run out of money for this, and so far there
(21:24):
is no contingency in place for it, so there are
This is amazingly, there are forty million people in this
country who run food stamps.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
This is this is the honest question. How many of
those people do you think actually need food stamps in
order to be able to successfully live? And the reason
I asked that question is my suspicion is that the
food stamp world is rife with tons of corruption, and
(21:59):
we just that lay allowed it to expand and expand.
And many of the people that are on food stamps
are actually morbidly obese, which means they're not actually struggling
to feed themselves, right like, there isn't a deep it's
not a calorie it's not a calorie deficit, correct that
anyone is in. Well, this also goes to the way
I remember you were lied to, all of you. You
(22:21):
were lied to by the New York Times and others
when they said that there was mass starvation in Gaza.
Just to be clear, there was no mass starve. There
was no starvation period. No one was starving. There was
what they call food insecurity and nutritional deficiency, which one
I think probably existed in Gaza before the War two,
(22:42):
the nutritional deficiency part of it. And to Clay, something
like forty million Americans in this country are considered food insecure.
They're on food stamps. So there's all these ways that
they Starvation is a horrific one of the most horrific
things that a human being can suffered through. It's a
very specific thing, which is not enough foo food for
your function, for your system to function, and it will
(23:02):
kill you.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Not having.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know, whatever food you want, in whatever quantity you
want is a different problem, a different thing. And to
your point about obesity and the supplemental Nutritional Assistance program,
there's always this fight over wool. Can it cover soda?
Can it cover effectively just sugar and empty calories. We
have a huge type two diabetes problem along with the
obese problem. Those things go hand in hand in this country.
(23:28):
But we the actual program estimates Clay that it's about
eleven or twelve billion dollars of just straight fraud in
that program, eleven or twelve billion, and that's what the
government thinks. So what the real number is, who knows.
But beyond that, the fact that we are the wealthiest
country in the world and we have forty million people
on food stamps is indicative of something. It's indicative of
(23:53):
a dependency that the government has created and fostered with
no end in sight. And that's not a good thing.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
We have more than enough calories for everybody. There's more
than enough ways to get food for everybody. And if
you see what people are buying with food stamps and
a lot of you know, you see people.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I see it in a grocery store.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I shop people using EVT cards and they're getting soda
and potato chips. Yeah, And people can say, oh, that's
so classist or something, but that's what they're buying. Well,
here's an easy question. If you could wave a magic
wand in this society, do you think we have a
bigger issue in America with obesity or with starvation? Would
(24:35):
anyone say that we have an issue with starvation in
America or obesity? Like if you could wave a magic
wand and solve one of those things, which would be
the healthier thing to be able to solve. If we
cut obesity in half in this country, buck, I bet
our overall medical cost would decline by half as well. Right,
(24:55):
Obesity is a huge signifier of significant health related issues.
So if you were out there right now and I
gave you a magic wand, then I said, there are
lots of countries, by the way, where you would say, oh, no,
we one hundred percent need to address starvation. There are
people who have truly not enough food to be able
to survive. That is not this country. We have so
(25:16):
much food in fact, that our bigger issue is we
have way too many fat people relative to the overall population,
and a lot of those people are using, to your point,
these food stamp policies to go and buy super unhealthy
food that makes them unhealthier, and we're all subsidizing it.
(25:38):
And you can argue, okay, well why would you you know,
freedom of They should be able to buy anything they
want with their food stamp, but we're subsidizing it. So
I do think it's worth asking as taxpayers, a is
this a policy? Is this a program that is getting
good value? I know, well, I promise we'll come back
to Kamim Mamdani, But this actually goes to a lot
(25:58):
of things, because he's talking about grocery restores, for example,
and how we need to have city, city run grocery
stores that have the basically don't run for their nonprofits.
They've tried this, just to be clear, in different places
they have pilot programs. There's always a disaster. Guess what
you find out. Nobody in the city run grocery store
cares at the shore, at the shelves are bare, Nobody
(26:20):
cares if the produce actually looks good. Nobody cares because
no one's making any money and they get paid the
same whether there's bread on the shelves or not. But
even beyond that, a little trip down memory lane, because
I found this fascinating because this affected New York City
way back in the day the Obama administration. Claire, remember
Michelle Obamas Let's Move campaign. There was along with that
when she was first lady. I'm taking you back a decade, folks,
(26:43):
there was a food desert, a whole food desert thing.
You know, you don't hear that term very much anymore.
And the whole premise of the food desert was low
income people. They're obviously not starving. Right to your point
is it's not that there's no food, but they don't
have access to lean, lean cuts of steak and organic
(27:10):
chalade and and the thing, you know, these things that
are generally considered more kind of upper end income lifestyle
food choices. So they created this pilot program where not
only did they bring in farmers market produce into New
York City, New York Times had all these stories on this.
The reason there's a reason, I'm gonna tell you why
you don't hear about this anymore. Farmer's market produce into
(27:32):
all of these different cities or all of these different
stores rather subsidized a clay. The government said, we're gonna
make this.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Army wants you to.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Make healthier choices, so we're gonna make the healthier choices cheaper.
So they truck the food into these low income neighborhoods.
There's a whole pr campaign around letting people know, Hey,
you can get all the archisanal wildflower honey you want now,
you know, to tell everybody in low income neighborhoods of
(28:02):
New York and bring it. So what's artificially cheaper? So
now it's not oh, I have to get like the
off brand potato chips because there now it's oh my gosh,
I can do you know how much they were able
to change the buying habits in these neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Zero. They were not able to statistically, in.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Any way measure any change in the buying habits of
So unless you're going to force feed low income people
the quote healthy, organic, blah blah, all that stuff, they
just want to eat.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What they want to eat.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I think there's very important lessons here about the free
market and about economics and choice and central planning. And
you look at someone like mom Donnie he's saying, I
want to set up government owned grocery stores Clay. They
had those in the Soviet Union. It did not work
out well. Have them in Cuba now to get meat.
They have them in Cuba.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Every now and then you will see video of all
the people in Cuba lining up up to try to
go into their government run stores. They're never anything on
the shelves. And this is again, this goes to a
just complete failure to understand basic business. If you were
going to go in business, A grocery store and many
(29:17):
of you out there have been involved in this in
the past, has one of the tiniest profit margins of
any business. It is a high volume, low profit based business.
One reason if you walk around and you look at
grocery store shelves that grocery stores themselves produce generic versions
(29:38):
of doritos or generic versions of soda is because that's
much higher profit margin than the brand name, so to
speak out there, and it is just it's akin to
someone saying as sometimes you will hear, oh, these gas
stations the price of gas, or they're making so much money,
(30:02):
and you say, wait a minute, you realize gas stations
make almost no money on gas right, it is a
lost leader. Very often, as many of you who have
run gas stations know, the way that gas stations make
profit is typically off of the store. So when you
walk inside and you buy products, you buy a drink,
or you buy a lottery ticket, or you buy something
(30:23):
in a gas station, that's how the business is run.
And so when you have people like Mamdani and Buck,
you know this better than anybody.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
But one of the.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Toughest places to be bringing product into is New York
City because the streets are narrow like, the trucks are complicated.
The cost of bringing in all that product and trying
to deliver it to so many different stores. It is
one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard from a
politician that they're gonna make groceries more affordable by getting
(30:53):
the government in the grocery business.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And you have you have the green energy, you know,
climate change maniacs who have decided that we can't have
any more places to park, and we have fewer, fewer lanes,
and we're going to force people onto buses. And now
we're gonna, if Mamdani wins, gonna have buses with no fare.
So they're just going to be traveling homeless terminals that
smell like urin and god knows what else, and they
(31:18):
do all this clay and what happens, And this is
again the cause and effect reality of central planning by
Kami morons. People would be staggered to know how many
parking tickets are written every day in Manhattan in particular,
and how that actually becomes a tax on all businesses
because to get your deliveries, all of your delivery guys
for all of your restaurants and all of your supermarkets
(31:39):
and everything are constantly getting tickets that go to the
city of New York. And so there's an addition that's
just a tax because it raises the cost of delivering
food or raises the cost of delivering goods and services.
All of this made worse by people in city Hall
in New York and by the way, any Democrat city
across the country that's following the similar playbook, it's all
made worse by their decisions all the time. All they
(32:02):
do is make things worse most of the time. I mean,
that's really what you see. And Mom Donnie is certainly
going to be somebody who falls into that category.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's it's very frustrating.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know what is not frustrating the fact that yesterday
was the Equinox. I was talking with our team here.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Game three was Game three, right, Game three of the
World Series. Last night I wasn't watching. I went to bed.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It went on until two fifty am Eastern. So if
you're listening to us on the East Coast and your
eyes feel a little bleary, it might be because, like
producer Mike here, you stood up, stayed up all night
to be able to watch this game, and that is
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Speaker 3 (33:49):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got a quick
turn here, so we're going to tell you a few
things where we're going to the next hour. One is
we are going to play that clip of mom Donnie's
dad don't at the sins of the father upon the son.
I know that's what they're all going to say, but
Mamdanni's dad saying some really really bad stuff. And it's
only relevant in so far as I think that Mamdani
(34:10):
believes this kind of stuff too.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
He's a radical leftist. He's a radical leftist.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Notice how these radical leftists when they want to get famous,
they'll say all this crazy stuff, but they want to
build their support on the left. And then Clay when
it comes to election time, like.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I'm not a radical. It is amazing guy, Hello, fellow normies.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't believe that Lennon was awesome and that we
should just, you know, destroy capitalism. I'm like totally normal
like you. I love Shark Tank, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
It is.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Extraordinary how quickly they try to disavow all the crazy
things they said to become popular on the left. I mean,
the NYTV NYPD boot on your throat is laced by
the idf is. I mean, it is a crazy line,
(35:02):
but this is the kind of thing he says that
everybody cheers, And I think what you said is important here, Buck,
because now what happens is he comes back and he says, well,
I didn't really mean that. But all the people on
the left who are Mom Donnie fans are quietly among
themselves saying, he's just.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Saying that so he can get elected.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Now he still believes what we do, and we'll see
whether or not he's capable of trying to put any
of these policies in place if he wins. The best
case scenario is actually he's incapable of doing any of this, right.
I think that's a principle in Islamist circles from within
Islam called takia.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Where you are, it is.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Not just morally permissible, you are obligated to lie if
it is in furtherance of the Jihad, just saying it's
a real thing.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's out there. So so.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
But to your point, Clay, leftists have been doing takia
for as long as there's been a left. I mean,
they whatever they got to say, whatever they have to pretend,
especially when it comes to election time. This is how
they gain democracy, right, This is how they get to
the you know, one vote, one man, one time, and
that's the hope here is that eventually they'll be able
(36:15):
to control the whole system. But first mo'm Donnie to
see if he actually wins. Maybe there's a last minute
Cuomo search. We will discuss this. We've also got Ridley
Gaines joining later. I'm gonna challenge her to a doggy
paddle contest because I think that's probably my best stroke.
I think I got doggy paddle lined up. But we're
gonna get into that and we're gonna play some stuff
(36:36):
from Donnie, some craziness. Also, the strikes on the fentanyl votes.
They're really doing this. Folks like I said before, the
war on drugs is not a metaphor anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's a war on drugs. We'll talk about it.
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