September 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and emotionally charged breakdown of the latest developments surrounding the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. The hosts begin by confirming that the alleged assassin, Tyler Robinson, has been taken into custody after turning himself in, with details provided by law enforcement and Utah Governor Spencer Cox: timeline of the arrest, the role of Robinson’s family—particularly his father, a veteran law enforcement officer—and the disturbing ideological motivations behind the attack.
This hour focuses heavily on the radicalization of Robinson, a 22-year-old who reportedly had a normal upbringing but became immersed in far-left extremist ideology, including Antifa and anti-fascist rhetoric. The show highlights engravings found on the shell casings used in the murder, such as “Catch this fascist” and references to “Bella Ciao,” a song associated with anti-Nazi resistance. These details underscore the political nature of the assassination and the influence of online subcultures, including Discord servers and internet memes, in shaping extremist behavior.
Clay and Buck also address the broader cultural and political implications of the assassination, emphasizing the alarming celebration of Kirk’s death by segments of the political Left. They argue that this reaction is not fringe but represents a significant portion of the Democratic base, pointing to social media posts and public figures who either condoned or failed to condemn the violence. The hosts contrast this with how conservatives would respond to similar violence against left-leaning figures, asserting that the Right consistently upholds moral standards regardless of political affiliation.
The episode delves into the psychological and societal factors contributing to radicalization, referencing Buck’s experience in counterterrorism and his book “Manufacturing Delusions.” They discuss how political rhetoric—such as claims that Trump is a Nazi or that democracy is ending—can dehumanize opponents and incite violence. The show also draws parallels to other politically motivated killings, including the assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, and warns of a growing trend of ideological violence.
Listeners are invited to call in and share their reactions, with one trucker from Kansas describing how Charlie Kirk’s message resonated with his non-political wife and young daughter, illustrating Kirk’s broad appeal and ability to connect across demographics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Klay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show. I want to jump right to it.
The news that many of you may have seen. We
want to bring you up to speed with all of
the latest on it. Charlie Kirk's assassin has been caught,
turned himself in in fact, and we will give you
more of those details, but the alleged assassin has been
(00:22):
taken into custody. We'll walk you through the timeline this
morning of how that went, some updates on law enforcement's
role in this, the family of the shooters role in this,
and the latest on who the shooter was, the profile,
the ideology behind it, and then also I think we're
going to spend.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A portion of the show today. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
First off, of course, continue to commemorate our friend Charlie
Kirk and the incredible work that he did. And I think, Clay,
there was never a doubt as soon as we got
the horrible news and we're able to process what had happened,
there was never a doubt that Charlie legacy, the movement,
the organization, and what he stood for would not only
(01:07):
continue on, but I think there is a turning point
toward standing for these principles and standing for this free
speech and elevated I mean, just going forward, everybody on
the right, everybody who believes in the Constitution, everybody believes
in the First Amendment. It feels like we must stand
with this legacy of Charlie Kirk, his work, what he did,
(01:30):
what he stood for. We also do need to address
the widespread. Widespread is the only I think way you
could describe it. It is not fringe, It is not
on the edges, on the margins. The widespread, horrific response
to this assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk from elements
(01:52):
of the left. People are getting fired left and right,
which they deserve. But it's just astonishing because that shows
you how utterly deranged in their politics so many everyday Americans,
as well as pundits and people with followings, and so
we'll get into all of this, but first, Clay, let's
just go through the news events this morning as they happened.
(02:16):
First off, President Trump was sitting on the couch at
Fox and Friends, and he gave a pretty good indication
of what was to come.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Play clip one.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Any updates on the suspect.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, can I always say I think just to protect
us all and so Fox doesn't get sued, I think
we all don't get sued and everything else. But I
think with a high degree of certainty, we have him
in custody. In custody. Everyone did a great job. We
worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a
(02:50):
great job.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That was then confirmed later by Governor Spencer Cox of Utah.
This has cut eight saying that they do in fact
have Charlie Kirk's murderer of the assassin was in costad.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He play it. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had
confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office
and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was
(03:31):
also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage
from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus
in a great Dodge challenger at approximately eight twenty nine
am on September tenth, in which he is observed on
video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,
(03:53):
a black hat with a white logo, and light colored shoes.
When encountered in person by investigators in Washington on September
twelfth in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in
consistent clothing with those surveillance images.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But Clay, the investigation continues about what was said by
him online, did he have any co conspirators. There's a
lot still to unpack. But the assassin is in custody
as we speak to you now, thankfully no doubt.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And we're getting more and more information about the assassin,
and we try to avoid giving a lot. I try
to say, avoid giving names. I understand sometimes we play
media coverage where they do it. Here are some of
the identifying details that I think are starting to be
to revealed. Twenty two years old was to a large
degree turned in by his dad, who was a twenty
(04:46):
seven year law enforcement veteran. The dad, I'm seeing reports
of we talked about this that there's one hundred thousand
dollars reward. The dad is saying, I'm not taking the reward,
but the question that is out out there. This is
a kid grew up in a Utah home and had
a completely normal upbringing, evidently made good grades in school,
(05:11):
did well on standardized test and something. And I know
this is part of what your book is about.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Something radicalized him. Something turned him from a kid that
was not particularly political according to his parents and those
around him, to expressing that he hated Charlie Kirk and
being willing to kill Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Plan it all out, all the details, he changed clothes.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Again, if you miss the press conference, it feels very
open and shutcase his motivation. I'm not talking about what
his motivation was because there'll probably be articles where they
say in the New York Times we may never know
why he did this. There were Antifa and anti knots,
the engravings on the shell casings that he was using
(06:04):
to kill Charlie Kirk. So he hated Charlie Kirk. He
was a far left ideologue committed to Antifa and anti
Nazi ideology, according to the engravings on the bullets themselves,
So we know what his motivation was. To me, Buck,
the story now is how how did a kid in
(06:29):
a normal, middle class, upbringing, nuclear family. How did he
get radicalized to the point where he was willing, by
the age of twenty two, to take a rifle and
go murder someone that he had decided he hated because
of Charlie Kirk, this because of his political beliefs. How
did that happen? And relatively short period of time, because
(06:51):
evidently this kid did well in high school, made good grades.
Wasn't political to suddenly sitting down at the family table
screaming slogan about hating Charlie Kirk and then his own
dad has to turn him in. Yeah, it's it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I can tell you from the extensive studies that have
been done and that were very much a part of
my daily life in the GWATT the Global War on Terror,
anti gi hottist days, that poverty, things like that, they
have really no bearing on radicalization and in fact, a
lot of the worst ideological terrorists. This guy's a terrorist.
(07:30):
I mean, this is will use the term assassin is accurate.
Of course, the term terrorist is also accurate. This was
violence to a political end. But this is someone who
clearly when he was hearing all of the rhetoric about
how Trump is a Nazi, how fascism has descended upon America.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
We could sit here and we will go.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Through some of where these messages and where how this
narrative has been formed, because it is important because I
think Clay, this.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Time more than you know, more than what we've seen
in a lot of other cases.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This time is one where there are random people, random
people who are in a position to say that they
have seen someone in their own life who has celebrated this.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I've never seen anything like this before. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm seeing it all over the place, and that is
like waking up among the enemy a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That is wait a second, hold on a minute here.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know, with Trump, he's the president of the United States,
and the fact that and he and he was fine, right,
he was in a different he was in a different
situation entirely because he walked away with his fist in
the air and he was okay, And people were saying, oh,
I hope they got him. Now, that's heinous, that's heinous, right.
(09:02):
We saw the people that were making those kind of
comments online.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean, Charlie was we all saw it on video.
And this guy wife and kids and.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
All these friends, all these people who care about them,
love this person, and the worst thing possible happened. The
worst thing possible in that situation happened, which is that
Charlie's no longer with us. And there are people who
are are gleeful. And I don't mean a few all
over the place, thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands,
(09:38):
maybe millions. I can't give a number other than to
say wading through Blue Sky Clay was like going through
an insane asylum.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Of people who are aware of their actions. Though and
I recognize that right you know.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
They are in the grips of a delusion, but they
are responsible for what they are saying.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
They're not seeing pink elephants in the sky.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They believe this fascism and Trump narrative, and it cost
our friend Charlie his life, and and there just needs
to be a reckoning.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And also just an examination. I truly believe this, and
I hope I've never challenged or proven wrong in this,
because I hope it never happens. I think if Rachel Maddow,
I'm trying to think of who the equivalent is of
Charlie Kirk on the right, let's use I'll use Rachel
Maddow as an example.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Somebody that's she's.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That they clay. I'm not even they got this is
part of this.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But the reason I wanted to jump in on this
is just because this is part of why they're so angry,
because they're so used to having control of these they
have nobody that's even in the in the stratosphere of
the influence.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I'm just saying, Rachel Maddowe speaks of.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Rachel Maddow is like an old lady. Now, I mean
she's our age, that's a totally different thing.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
But if she got shot on campus, I think you
and I and the Bass Majory of people out there
would say this is awful, this is unacceptable. I don't
think there would be an outpouring of people on the
right saying she got what she deserved or I'm happy
that this has occurred. This is not and I want
(11:16):
to say this too, this is not some fringe element
of the Democrat Party that is celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.
This is a solid twenty five or thirty percent at
least of their base celebrating the death of someone who
was killed because of his political belief.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, let's let's unpack what they're what the story is
that they tell themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How do they get to this delusion?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And yeah, McClay mentioned this, and I appreciate you brought
up this is actually the title. This is the in
the title manufacturing Delusions. This is what my book was about.
This is what it's about. Radicalization of the masses of
normal people who believe crazy things. How does this There's processes,
there's tactics, there's all these things. In this case, the
storyline that was latched onto by President Biden when he
(12:05):
was president, right by the New York Times editorial page,
by the biggest voices, If Trump wins, we won't have
another election. If Trump wins, our democracy is over. The
Republic no longer exists. They're going to put you in camps.
They're Nazis, Well, Clay, if you and I were alive
in you know, occupied Holland or something circa nineteen forty four,
(12:31):
nineteen forty three, we would take extreme measures, right, I mean,
if we were truly under a Nazi occupation. Now you
can say that they tell people this as just a
rhetorical flourish, but that's exactly the point. It's irresponsible because
what they are doing is dehumanizing their political opponents in
a way that results in tragedy. And it's happened again
(12:55):
and again and again. This is not a one off.
It's just the most awful recent one that we have seen.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I think what you started to see was in the
reaction to the United Healthcare CEO's public assassination. They made
his assassin a hero, and you pointed out that they
tried to do it with the Boston terrorists time ago.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Cover Rolling Stone looking as handsome as they could make
him look.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
That was pre social media, So I think the sort
of green shoots of this already existed. I think on
social media they have come into full fruition. And the
problem with this is this kid, I say kid, he's
twenty two. He thinks he's a hero, and a lot
of other people are going to see the way that
he has treated and it's going to embolden others to
(13:42):
go out and try to kill people they disagree with politically.
I'm just telling you that that is it is open season.
Because there hasn't been some massive, some massive response and
outpouring on the left saying this is unacceptable. In fact,
the exact opposite. There's a huge outpouring of celebration. People
(14:04):
are risking their jobs to celebrate somebody being assassinated, losing
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
A lot of people you're seeing this, a lot of
people are getting fired. Uh and not from just MSNBC.
Like that guy Doubt, who I can tell you is
a world class I can't say it on the air
without getting in trouble, but a real bad dude.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So no tears there. He's been a jerk for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But I mean, you know, like vet text down the
street from you, and guys who work in the in
the you know, the local restaurant or in the you
know your family.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You probably have family, may have family that's posting somebody
in your family, extended family. You may get on Facebook
and suddenly you see celebrations going on for a murder
and an assassination, and you just think, what world am
I living in? I think that's one that a lot
of us have experienced this week.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, we're gonna take a lot of calls.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Today is a Friday, so make sure you light us
up with those, and please also on the talkbacks, we'll
get to those. We want to have this conversation be
as robust and widespread with all.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Of you as we can.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 5 (16:29):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I do think we
should get because there's a lot of already discussion, Oh,
this is a Republican that was killing Charlie Kirk because
he agreed with him. I think it's gonna be hard
for that argument to take root. But I understand that
you guys may be confronted with some of this. Producer
(16:51):
Greg did a good job. There are a lot of
different things that were basically engraved on these bullets. Catch
this fascist basically was one of them. That's not very
difficult to understand Also, Bella Chow was written and producer
Greg did the research on this. It's a song dedicated
(17:13):
to the Italian resistance fighters who fought against Nazi Germany.
So he basically is calling Charlie Kirk a Nazi and
a fascist, which is what left wingers decided to brand
Charlie Kirk as buck Well.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
This is all the proof that you would need in
terms of understanding the twisted ideology and motive here. This
is an antipha terrorist. Antifa stands for anti fascism. That's
where the what's where the word comes from. Just so
we can all remind ourselves, this was an Antifa assassin
of our dear friend Charlie. And this ideology of antifa
(17:52):
is widespread among a lot of leftists, particularly younger leftists.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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That was the big news, long awaited news this morning.
And now we're just as part of the grieving process
(19:08):
and as part of the figuring out how we all
move forward the saying and the decent among us. Unfortunately,
not all Americans, not all Americans are saying indecent when
it comes to this stuff, they are there's a considerable
crew that are completely nuts, really vile, I mean really evil.
I mean it's nuts, isn't isn't the right word? And
(19:29):
we lack the words, I think sometimes to describe this
other than things like evil, demonic, spiritually and you know,
ethically bankrupt.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But here we have.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Some discussion from Governor Cox of Utah talking about messages
that were shared. This whole thing was planned. It was
a planned out assassination this individual. We know that he's
scrawled things on the casings. It wasn't a you know,
last minute the morning of he snapped or something.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
This guy was planning to do this for some time.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Here's the governor talking about messages shared between the roommate
of the shooter and the shooter himself.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Play eleven investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson.
Investigators interviewed that roommate, who stated that his roommate referring
to Robinson, made a joke on discord. Investigators asked if
he would show them the messages on discord. He opened
it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators
(20:27):
to take photos of the screen as each message was
shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages,
including content of messages between the phone contact named Tyler
with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content
of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler,
(20:50):
stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point,
leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to a
to visually watch the area where a rifle was left,
and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped
in a towel. The messages also referred to engraving bullets
(21:11):
and a mention of a scope and the rifle being
unique Clay.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
We're getting more details.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Here are the messages on the assassins shell casing, and
they are explained, And a lot of this is internet culture.
So I'm going to go in the most easily explained version.
Hey fascist, catch I think on the shell casing, Hey fascist,
exclamation point catch exclamation point catch this bullet.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I think it's pretty easy to understand that one, right.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Bellachow, Bellichow, Bellachow, Chow Chow. It is a song that
was sung of the Italian resistance during the World War Two.
So in Italy this was what the people who fought
the Nazis in World War Two. It was their anthem.
(22:08):
So it is anti Nazi, anti fascist. Those two examples.
Another one is the call down code. This is according
to Joel Barry, by the way, and the call down
code for the five hundred kilo grand bomb in the
game Hell Divers two. I mean again, a lot of
(22:28):
this is very internal internet discord chat style that probably
certainly you and me buck are not familiar with. We're
probably more familiar with it than the average sixty five
or seventy year old who may be listening. But I'm
trying to just explain so that you are aware, Hey,
what was on here? Notices Bulge's owo. What's this? It
(22:53):
is a transgender furry culture meme that is popular on online.
And then this one I get and if you read this,
you are gay lmao laughing my ass off is what
LMAO stands for.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
You are gay. I think you can understand that.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
And again that's sort of an Internet code I think
that is used on these on these message boards.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, this is this makes me think more that this
person was increasingly operating in a in alternate reality or
a delusion where his actions like a video game, are
not with any consequence, when as we know, what happened
was the most awful and evil of things that any
person could could do. So how can you separate these things?
(23:47):
I mean, imagine this, this shooter writing jokes on the
cartridges he's going to use to murder a human being,
a father. I mean, you know, I can't even think
about Charlie's two kids without starting to just it just
it just overcome with emotion. I think all the parents
listening feel the same way. What about Charlie's kids? What
abut Charlie's wife? To scratch these things into these bullets?
(24:13):
What a complete and utter like what depravity?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I know I've used the term demonic a lot, but
it is really accurate here to think that you could
be doing something good when you're doing something so purely evil.
And this is, unfortunately, Clay, part of this much broader
narrative that we talked about. I remember many years ago
I read the Anti Fascist Handbook. It was written by
(24:42):
a sort of an activist slash historian, and that was
pre Trump, because there was a resurgence or maybe the
the sort of origins of this group in the American
context really started to get prominent after the Wall Street
meltdown and then the Occupy Wall Street movement. That's when
(25:04):
you had Antifa. That's when people learned about it. That
was when they heard about this. So this idea of
left wing street thugs who will terrorize people. I know,
people say, oh, the W two wto trade protests, you know,
or those protests back in what was it, Seattle and
a few other places.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
This is what I was going to say, Buck. That's
the first time I became aware of it because when
I went to college at GW the World Bank is
basically right next to our right next to our campus.
And in the early two thousands there were riots in Washington,
d C. Led by Antifa, and they were graffeeding and everything.
(25:44):
I was walking a class and I was like, who
are these people? What are they doing? I remember seeing
people in masks running around with graffiti cans. Yeah, and
to your point, Buck, there is now Tim Poole has
got pictures and he says, Tyler, I don't want to
say what this guy was allegedly involved in multiple Antifa
(26:07):
discord servers and we should probably explain to people, because
I had to learn this from my kids. I've never
been on Discord. Discord is basically a series of private
and or public message boards that can be created on
almost any topic, and they are very very popular with
hyper online young men in particular. And so this killer,
(26:33):
this assassin may well have been radicalized inside of some
of these Discord servers that were collections of radical Antifa
guys and buck based on the report some of the
audio that we played, he was bragging in some way
about doing this to his friend, which is one way
(26:53):
that this helped to go public. He's talking about where
he hit the gun. He wants the credit for it,
in other words, because he sees himself as a hero
and Charlie Kirk is a villain inside of this Discord
universe of Antifa activists.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, we also saw after Luigi, with the Luigi situation
where he assassed that was also a political murder. That
was an assassination the CEO of United Healthcare that we
were on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I was pretty shocked. I mean, I expect the left
to be vile and awful and evil, and I've been
dealing with this and fighting against them now for well,
at least publicly fifteen years, Clay, but that this guy
has just gone down because he's the CEO of one
of many healthcare companies. Yes, And that there were people who.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Clearly, and I mean people of some sway, people that
have some have some following in the conversation, were either saying,
you know, well, I kind of understand why he did it,
or maybe even saying I wouldn't do it myself, but
I know why somebody would do it.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This sort of stuff that was was appalling.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And all the people on the left who should call
this out, who should be involved.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
In saying, I would say the left?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know, Democrats, people on CNN, you know, when was
the last time you saw Anderson Cooper or Jake Tapper
or some of these the real establishment of the Democrat
media elite. Rachel Maddow do a monologue, a true look
into the camera and say, any of you who think
(28:33):
that this stuff is okay are monstrous and there's something
wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And I don't It's never happened.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
They don't want to antagonize their base, and these people
are their base. And that is the reality that we
are all seeing right now.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
It is inescapable.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
And by the way, we think you are monstrous.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
If you are listening to this program and you're going
to kill somebody for their political beliefs, don't do it.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
It's not hard to do Buck.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And if you and if you want to kill people
because of their political beliefs, don't listen to this program
because we don't agree with you. And again this is
why I come back to I truly do not believe
that there is anyone on the left who could be
assassinated like this in cold blood where you would see
any kind of comparable reaction and or celebration to what
(29:21):
we've seen here.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Here's an example.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, when there was the as we've now seen,
there was the actual truth of the case was very
different from how it was initially presented. But remember there
was that that Gretchen Witch Gretchen sorry, Gretchen Whigmer kidnapping plot,
and that it was right wing people who are angry
at her about COVID and they really you know, and
(29:44):
look at it, look at how mean they are to Fauci,
and that this shows you what they want to do.
I did not see a not a single person you
and I know, and let let's be host. We know
everybody who does this of any prominence whatsoever. Okay, there's
nobody that you or I cannot text or get on
the phone on the right, who does media commentary that
of any consequence whatsoever? Do we see anybody who was saying,
(30:08):
oh man, I was just had turned out differently for
you know, for Governor Whitmer.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
It's a shame that they didn't murder her.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And and if that and if someone had, we'd be
sitting here being with that person's a psycho. Nobody should
listen to them, and the Fed should go knock, you know,
should go give a knock on the door. You can't
threaten do a you know, you can't threaten harm against
a federal or a in that case, a state official.
But my point merely being that that we've run these
experiments over and over, how do how does our side react?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
How does the other side react? What? What? What does
it mean to be on the right ideologically?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
You know, I don't even think you have to say
conservatives on the right ideologically, which increasingly just means not insane, okay,
not divorced from reality, not living in some weird, deluded,
narcissistic fantasy land, like all these antifook clowns.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Every time you see some antiphe round up where.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They where they get arrest, they all look like antiph psychos.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
None of them are you know, none of them have
happy lives. None of them.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
This is it is a They are bands of vicious
malcontents who latch onto this notion that they are fighting
the most evil of forces because then it excuses all
of their own insufficiencies and insecurities and the lack of
being willing to do things that are good day in
(31:25):
and day out, which is hard, and it can it
can get even, You can get crazier and crazier over time,
or people start to cheer for people like this, or
they even become an assassin themselves, like this guy did well.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And this is where I think so many parents out
there think to themselves.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I just we've had the killer destroyed Charlie Kirk's family.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
He also destroyed his own family, Yes, because can you
imagine the dad having to who works in law enforcement,
having to come to grips with his son, someone that
he raised inside of his household for his entire life,
at twenty two years old, climbing onto a building and
assassinating someone. His son's life is over. He may well
(32:10):
deservedly get the death penalty for this. That killer destroyed
Charlie Kirk's family beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
It's inexcusable. He also destroyed his own family.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
And all of the effort and energy and intent that
goes into raising a child. I just I can't even
imagine it, and I know you can look at it
from both perspectives.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Here.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Can you imagine being a police officer and having to
turn in your son for committing an assassination. That's what
just had to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Here.
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Speaker 5 (34:22):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate
all of you. We'll take some of your calls, your feedback,
your reaction. During the course of Friday's program, we got
a couple of callers out there. Let's try to bring
in some of those. Trent in Kansas, he's a trucker
out there. Trent, what you got for us? Appreciate you
calling in.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted
to kind of describe what I can only describe as
my family's kind of relationship with Charlie Kirk. Obviously we
didn't know him. You know, I listen to you guys
every day. My wife is completely non polit If something's
going on, really she expects me to fill her in
(35:04):
and keep her informed and stuff. But the one person
that she did watch and pay attention to on the
regular was Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
And you know, why do you think that was?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
By the way, she said, sorry to cut you off,
but I'm just kind of interested. You said, your wife's
not particularly political. Why do you think she found Charlie?
Why do you think she watched him? I'm just kind
of curious.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Well, she she actually found him because of me, because
I you know, I would watch his videos and she
just liked what he had to say. She liked that
he would engage with people that didn't you know, that
hated him. Really, I mean, he would engage with anybody,
and she liked that, and she liked what he had
to say. She would listen to what he had to say.
(35:47):
But it wasn't just my wife. My six year old
daughter when she rides with me, she looks forward to
listening to you guys. She like she voluntarily watched the
Joint Address of Congress with me, and she would watch
and listen to Charlie and she would engage with us.
She engages with us when we do those kinds of things.
(36:08):
She asks questions and she wants to be involved and informed.
And that's to me, that's just what kind of Charlie did.
Was you know, he spoke to the masses, whether you
liked him or not, or whether he's you know he
I mean, he would he would just talk to everybody.
And you know, it doesn't matter your background or your
(36:34):
you know, beliefs or whatever I feel like whatever, you know,
what he said applied to everybody you know.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah, thank you, thank you for the call.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I think that's why he had such connectivity with so
many different people. Will continue to take your calls, your feedback,
your talkback as we roll through the Friday edition of
the program.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Appreciate y'all, Late
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Klay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show. I want to jump right to it.
The news that many of you may have seen. We
want to bring you up to speed with all of
the latest on it. Charlie Kirk's assassin has been caught,
turned himself in in fact, and we will give you
more of those details, but the alleged assassin has been
(00:22):
taken into custody. We'll walk you through the timeline this
morning of how that went, some updates on law enforcement's
role in this, the family of the shooters role in this,
and the latest on who the shooter was, the profile,
the ideology behind it, and then also I think we're
going to spend.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A portion of the show today. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
First off, of course, continue to commemorate our friend Charlie
Kirk and the incredible work that he did. And I think, Clay,
there was never a doubt as soon as we got
the horrible news and we're able to process what had happened,
there was never a doubt that Charlie legacy, the movement,
the organization, and what he stood for would not only
(01:07):
continue on, but I think there is a turning point
toward standing for these principles and standing for this free
speech and elevated I mean, just going forward, everybody on
the right, everybody who believes in the Constitution, everybody believes
in the First Amendment. It feels like we must stand
with this legacy of Charlie Kirk, his work, what he did,
(01:30):
what he stood for. We also do need to address
the widespread. Widespread is the only I think way you
could describe it. It is not fringe, It is not
on the edges, on the margins. The widespread, horrific response
to this assassination of our friend Charlie Kirk from elements
(01:52):
of the left. People are getting fired left and right,
which they deserve. But it's just astonishing because that shows
you how utterly deranged in their politics so many everyday Americans,
as well as pundits and people with followings, and so
we'll get into all of this, but first, Clay, let's
just go through the news events this morning as they happened.
(02:16):
First off, President Trump was sitting on the couch at
Fox and Friends, and he gave a pretty good indication
of what was to come.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Play clip one.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Any updates on the suspect.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, can I always say I think just to protect
us all and so Fox doesn't get sued, I think
we all don't get sued and everything else. But I
think with a high degree of certainty, we have him
in custody. In custody. Everyone did a great job. We
worked with the local police, the governor. Everybody did a
(02:50):
great job.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That was then confirmed later by Governor Spencer Cox of Utah.
This has cut eight saying that they do in fact
have Charlie Kirk's murderer of the assassin was in costad.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He play it. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had
confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office
and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was
(03:31):
also conveyed to the FBI. Investigators reviewed additional video footage
from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus
in a great Dodge challenger at approximately eight twenty nine
am on September tenth, in which he is observed on
video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,
(03:53):
a black hat with a white logo, and light colored shoes.
When encountered in person by investigators in Washington on September
twelfth in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in
consistent clothing with those surveillance images.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But Clay, the investigation continues about what was said by
him online, did he have any co conspirators. There's a
lot still to unpack. But the assassin is in custody
as we speak to you now, thankfully no doubt.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And we're getting more and more information about the assassin,
and we try to avoid giving a lot. I try
to say, avoid giving names. I understand sometimes we play
media coverage where they do it. Here are some of
the identifying details that I think are starting to be
to revealed. Twenty two years old was to a large
degree turned in by his dad, who was a twenty
(04:46):
seven year law enforcement veteran. The dad, I'm seeing reports
of we talked about this that there's one hundred thousand
dollars reward. The dad is saying, I'm not taking the reward,
but the question that is out out there. This is
a kid grew up in a Utah home and had
a completely normal upbringing, evidently made good grades in school,
(05:11):
did well on standardized test and something. And I know
this is part of what your book is about.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Something radicalized him. Something turned him from a kid that
was not particularly political according to his parents and those
around him, to expressing that he hated Charlie Kirk and
being willing to kill Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Plan it all out, all the details, he changed clothes.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Again, if you miss the press conference, it feels very
open and shutcase his motivation. I'm not talking about what
his motivation was because there'll probably be articles where they
say in the New York Times we may never know
why he did this. There were Antifa and anti knots,
the engravings on the shell casings that he was using
(06:04):
to kill Charlie Kirk. So he hated Charlie Kirk. He
was a far left ideologue committed to Antifa and anti
Nazi ideology, according to the engravings on the bullets themselves,
So we know what his motivation was. To me, Buck,
the story now is how how did a kid in
(06:29):
a normal, middle class, upbringing, nuclear family. How did he
get radicalized to the point where he was willing, by
the age of twenty two, to take a rifle and
go murder someone that he had decided he hated because
of Charlie Kirk, this because of his political beliefs. How
did that happen? And relatively short period of time, because
(06:51):
evidently this kid did well in high school, made good grades.
Wasn't political to suddenly sitting down at the family table
screaming slogan about hating Charlie Kirk and then his own
dad has to turn him in. Yeah, it's it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I can tell you from the extensive studies that have
been done and that were very much a part of
my daily life in the GWATT the Global War on Terror,
anti gi hottist days, that poverty, things like that, they
have really no bearing on radicalization and in fact, a
lot of the worst ideological terrorists. This guy's a terrorist.
(07:30):
I mean, this is will use the term assassin is accurate.
Of course, the term terrorist is also accurate. This was
violence to a political end. But this is someone who
clearly when he was hearing all of the rhetoric about
how Trump is a Nazi, how fascism has descended upon America.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
We could sit here and we will go.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Through some of where these messages and where how this
narrative has been formed, because it is important because I
think Clay, this.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Time more than you know, more than what we've seen
in a lot of other cases.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This time is one where there are random people, random
people who are in a position to say that they
have seen someone in their own life who has celebrated this.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I've never seen anything like this before. I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm seeing it all over the place, and that is
like waking up among the enemy a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
That is wait a second, hold on a minute here.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know, with Trump, he's the president of the United States,
and the fact that and he and he was fine, right,
he was in a different he was in a different
situation entirely because he walked away with his fist in
the air and he was okay, And people were saying, oh,
I hope they got him. Now, that's heinous, that's heinous, right.
(09:02):
We saw the people that were making those kind of
comments online.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I mean, Charlie was we all saw it on video.
And this guy wife and kids and.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
All these friends, all these people who care about them,
love this person, and the worst thing possible happened. The
worst thing possible in that situation happened, which is that
Charlie's no longer with us. And there are people who
are are gleeful. And I don't mean a few all
over the place, thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands,
(09:38):
maybe millions. I can't give a number other than to
say wading through Blue Sky Clay was like going through
an insane asylum.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Of people who are aware of their actions. Though and
I recognize that right you know.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
They are in the grips of a delusion, but they
are responsible for what they are saying.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
They're not seeing pink elephants in the sky.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They believe this fascism and Trump narrative, and it cost
our friend Charlie his life, and and there just needs
to be a reckoning.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And also just an examination. I truly believe this, and
I hope I've never challenged or proven wrong in this,
because I hope it never happens. I think if Rachel Maddow,
I'm trying to think of who the equivalent is of
Charlie Kirk on the right, let's use I'll use Rachel
Maddow as an example.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Somebody that's she's.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That they clay. I'm not even they got this is
part of this.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But the reason I wanted to jump in on this
is just because this is part of why they're so angry,
because they're so used to having control of these they
have nobody that's even in the in the stratosphere of
the influence.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I'm just saying, Rachel Maddowe speaks of.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Rachel Maddow is like an old lady. Now, I mean
she's our age, that's a totally different thing.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
But if she got shot on campus, I think you
and I and the Bass Majory of people out there
would say this is awful, this is unacceptable. I don't
think there would be an outpouring of people on the
right saying she got what she deserved or I'm happy
that this has occurred. This is not and I want
(11:16):
to say this too, this is not some fringe element
of the Democrat Party that is celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.
This is a solid twenty five or thirty percent at
least of their base celebrating the death of someone who
was killed because of his political belief.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, let's let's unpack what they're what the story is
that they tell themselves.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How do they get to this delusion?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And yeah, McClay mentioned this, and I appreciate you brought
up this is actually the title. This is the in
the title manufacturing Delusions. This is what my book was about.
This is what it's about. Radicalization of the masses of
normal people who believe crazy things. How does this There's processes,
there's tactics, there's all these things. In this case, the
storyline that was latched onto by President Biden when he
(12:05):
was president, right by the New York Times editorial page,
by the biggest voices, If Trump wins, we won't have
another election. If Trump wins, our democracy is over. The
Republic no longer exists. They're going to put you in camps.
They're Nazis, Well, Clay, if you and I were alive
in you know, occupied Holland or something circa nineteen forty four,
(12:31):
nineteen forty three, we would take extreme measures, right, I mean,
if we were truly under a Nazi occupation. Now you
can say that they tell people this as just a
rhetorical flourish, but that's exactly the point. It's irresponsible because
what they are doing is dehumanizing their political opponents in
a way that results in tragedy. And it's happened again
(12:55):
and again and again. This is not a one off.
It's just the most awful recent one that we have seen.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I think what you started to see was in the
reaction to the United Healthcare CEO's public assassination. They made
his assassin a hero, and you pointed out that they
tried to do it with the Boston terrorists time ago.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Cover Rolling Stone looking as handsome as they could make
him look.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
That was pre social media, So I think the sort
of green shoots of this already existed. I think on
social media they have come into full fruition. And the
problem with this is this kid, I say kid, he's
twenty two. He thinks he's a hero, and a lot
of other people are going to see the way that
he has treated and it's going to embolden others to
(13:42):
go out and try to kill people they disagree with politically.
I'm just telling you that that is it is open season.
Because there hasn't been some massive, some massive response and
outpouring on the left saying this is unacceptable. In fact,
the exact opposite. There's a huge outpouring of celebration. People
(14:04):
are risking their jobs to celebrate somebody being assassinated, losing
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
A lot of people you're seeing this, a lot of
people are getting fired. Uh and not from just MSNBC.
Like that guy Doubt, who I can tell you is
a world class I can't say it on the air
without getting in trouble, but a real bad dude.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So no tears there. He's been a jerk for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But I mean, you know, like vet text down the
street from you, and guys who work in the in
the you know, the local restaurant or in the you
know your family.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You probably have family, may have family that's posting somebody
in your family, extended family. You may get on Facebook
and suddenly you see celebrations going on for a murder
and an assassination, and you just think, what world am
I living in? I think that's one that a lot
of us have experienced this week.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, we're gonna take a lot of calls.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Today is a Friday, so make sure you light us
up with those, and please also on the talkbacks, we'll
get to those. We want to have this conversation be
as robust and widespread with all.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Of you as we can.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 5 (16:29):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I do think we
should get because there's a lot of already discussion, Oh,
this is a Republican that was killing Charlie Kirk because
he agreed with him. I think it's gonna be hard
for that argument to take root. But I understand that
you guys may be confronted with some of this. Producer
(16:51):
Greg did a good job. There are a lot of
different things that were basically engraved on these bullets. Catch
this fascist basically was one of them. That's not very
difficult to understand Also, Bella Chow was written and producer
Greg did the research on this. It's a song dedicated
(17:13):
to the Italian resistance fighters who fought against Nazi Germany.
So he basically is calling Charlie Kirk a Nazi and
a fascist, which is what left wingers decided to brand
Charlie Kirk as buck Well.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
This is all the proof that you would need in
terms of understanding the twisted ideology and motive here. This
is an antipha terrorist. Antifa stands for anti fascism. That's
where the what's where the word comes from. Just so
we can all remind ourselves, this was an Antifa assassin
of our dear friend Charlie. And this ideology of antifa
(17:52):
is widespread among a lot of leftists, particularly younger leftists.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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back into clay end Buck. Charlie Kirk's assassin is in custody.
That was the big news, long awaited news this morning.
And now we're just as part of the grieving process
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and as part of the figuring out how we all
move forward the saying and the decent among us. Unfortunately,
not all Americans, not all Americans are saying indecent when
it comes to this stuff, they are there's a considerable
crew that are completely nuts, really vile, I mean really evil.
I mean it's nuts, isn't isn't the right word? And
(19:29):
we lack the words, I think sometimes to describe this
other than things like evil, demonic, spiritually and you know,
ethically bankrupt.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
But here we have.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Some discussion from Governor Cox of Utah talking about messages
that were shared. This whole thing was planned. It was
a planned out assassination this individual. We know that he's
scrawled things on the casings. It wasn't a you know,
last minute the morning of he snapped or something.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
This guy was planning to do this for some time.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Here's the governor talking about messages shared between the roommate
of the shooter and the shooter himself.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Play eleven investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson.
Investigators interviewed that roommate, who stated that his roommate referring
to Robinson, made a joke on discord. Investigators asked if
he would show them the messages on discord. He opened
it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators
(20:27):
to take photos of the screen as each message was
shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages,
including content of messages between the phone contact named Tyler
with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content
of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler,
(20:50):
stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point,
leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to a
to visually watch the area where a rifle was left,
and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped
in a towel. The messages also referred to engraving bullets
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and a mention of a scope and the rifle being
unique Clay.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
We're getting more details.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Here are the messages on the assassins shell casing, and
they are explained, And a lot of this is internet culture.
So I'm going to go in the most easily explained version.
Hey fascist, catch I think on the shell casing, Hey fascist,
exclamation point catch exclamation point catch this bullet.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
I think it's pretty easy to understand that one, right.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Bellachow, Bellichow, Bellachow, Chow Chow. It is a song that
was sung of the Italian resistance during the World War Two.
So in Italy this was what the people who fought
the Nazis in World War Two. It was their anthem.
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So it is anti Nazi, anti fascist. Those two examples.
Another one is the call down code. This is according
to Joel Barry, by the way, and the call down
code for the five hundred kilo grand bomb in the
game Hell Divers two. I mean again, a lot of
(22:28):
this is very internal internet discord chat style that probably
certainly you and me buck are not familiar with. We're
probably more familiar with it than the average sixty five
or seventy year old who may be listening. But I'm
trying to just explain so that you are aware, Hey,
what was on here? Notices Bulge's owo. What's this? It
(22:53):
is a transgender furry culture meme that is popular on online.
And then this one I get and if you read this,
you are gay lmao laughing my ass off is what
LMAO stands for.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
You are gay. I think you can understand that.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
And again that's sort of an Internet code I think
that is used on these on these message boards.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, this is this makes me think more that this
person was increasingly operating in a in alternate reality or
a delusion where his actions like a video game, are
not with any consequence, when as we know, what happened
was the most awful and evil of things that any
person could could do. So how can you separate these things?
(23:47):
I mean, imagine this, this shooter writing jokes on the
cartridges he's going to use to murder a human being,
a father. I mean, you know, I can't even think
about Charlie's two kids without starting to just it just
it just overcome with emotion. I think all the parents
listening feel the same way. What about Charlie's kids? What
abut Charlie's wife? To scratch these things into these bullets?
(24:13):
What a complete and utter like what depravity?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I know I've used the term demonic a lot, but
it is really accurate here to think that you could
be doing something good when you're doing something so purely evil.
And this is, unfortunately, Clay, part of this much broader
narrative that we talked about. I remember many years ago
I read the Anti Fascist Handbook. It was written by
(24:42):
a sort of an activist slash historian, and that was
pre Trump, because there was a resurgence or maybe the
the sort of origins of this group in the American
context really started to get prominent after the Wall Street
meltdown and then the Occupy Wall Street movement. That's when
(25:04):
you had Antifa. That's when people learned about it. That
was when they heard about this. So this idea of
left wing street thugs who will terrorize people. I know,
people say, oh, the W two wto trade protests, you know,
or those protests back in what was it, Seattle and
a few other places.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
This is what I was going to say, Buck. That's
the first time I became aware of it because when
I went to college at GW the World Bank is
basically right next to our right next to our campus.
And in the early two thousands there were riots in Washington,
d C. Led by Antifa, and they were graffeeding and everything.
(25:44):
I was walking a class and I was like, who
are these people? What are they doing? I remember seeing
people in masks running around with graffiti cans. Yeah, and
to your point, Buck, there is now Tim Poole has
got pictures and he says, Tyler, I don't want to
say what this guy was allegedly involved in multiple Antifa
(26:07):
discord servers and we should probably explain to people, because
I had to learn this from my kids. I've never
been on Discord. Discord is basically a series of private
and or public message boards that can be created on
almost any topic, and they are very very popular with
hyper online young men in particular. And so this killer,
(26:33):
this assassin may well have been radicalized inside of some
of these Discord servers that were collections of radical Antifa
guys and buck based on the report some of the
audio that we played, he was bragging in some way
about doing this to his friend, which is one way
(26:53):
that this helped to go public. He's talking about where
he hit the gun. He wants the credit for it,
in other words, because he sees himself as a hero
and Charlie Kirk is a villain inside of this Discord
universe of Antifa activists.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, we also saw after Luigi, with the Luigi situation
where he assassed that was also a political murder. That
was an assassination the CEO of United Healthcare that we
were on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I was pretty shocked. I mean, I expect the left
to be vile and awful and evil, and I've been
dealing with this and fighting against them now for well,
at least publicly fifteen years, Clay, but that this guy
has just gone down because he's the CEO of one
of many healthcare companies. Yes, And that there were people who.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Clearly, and I mean people of some sway, people that
have some have some following in the conversation, were either saying,
you know, well, I kind of understand why he did it,
or maybe even saying I wouldn't do it myself, but
I know why somebody would do it.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
This sort of stuff that was was appalling.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And all the people on the left who should call
this out, who should be involved.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
In saying, I would say the left?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You know, Democrats, people on CNN, you know, when was
the last time you saw Anderson Cooper or Jake Tapper
or some of these the real establishment of the Democrat
media elite. Rachel Maddow do a monologue, a true look
into the camera and say, any of you who think
(28:33):
that this stuff is okay are monstrous and there's something
wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And I don't It's never happened.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
They don't want to antagonize their base, and these people
are their base. And that is the reality that we
are all seeing right now.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
It is inescapable.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
And by the way, we think you are monstrous.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
If you are listening to this program and you're going
to kill somebody for their political beliefs, don't do it.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
It's not hard to do Buck.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
And if you and if you want to kill people
because of their political beliefs, don't listen to this program
because we don't agree with you. And again this is
why I come back to I truly do not believe
that there is anyone on the left who could be
assassinated like this in cold blood where you would see
any kind of comparable reaction and or celebration to what
(29:21):
we've seen here.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Here's an example.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, when there was the as we've now seen,
there was the actual truth of the case was very
different from how it was initially presented. But remember there
was that that Gretchen Witch Gretchen sorry, Gretchen Whigmer kidnapping plot,
and that it was right wing people who are angry
at her about COVID and they really you know, and
(29:44):
look at it, look at how mean they are to Fauci,
and that this shows you what they want to do.
I did not see a not a single person you
and I know, and let let's be host. We know
everybody who does this of any prominence whatsoever. Okay, there's
nobody that you or I cannot text or get on
the phone on the right, who does media commentary that
of any consequence whatsoever? Do we see anybody who was saying,
(30:08):
oh man, I was just had turned out differently for
you know, for Governor Whitmer.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
It's a shame that they didn't murder her.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And and if that and if someone had, we'd be
sitting here being with that person's a psycho. Nobody should
listen to them, and the Fed should go knock, you know,
should go give a knock on the door. You can't
threaten do a you know, you can't threaten harm against
a federal or a in that case, a state official.
But my point merely being that that we've run these
experiments over and over, how do how does our side react?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
How does the other side react? What? What? What does
it mean to be on the right ideologically?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
You know, I don't even think you have to say
conservatives on the right ideologically, which increasingly just means not insane, okay,
not divorced from reality, not living in some weird, deluded,
narcissistic fantasy land, like all these antifook clowns.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Every time you see some antiphe round up where.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They where they get arrest, they all look like antiph psychos.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
None of them are you know, none of them have
happy lives. None of them.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
This is it is a They are bands of vicious
malcontents who latch onto this notion that they are fighting
the most evil of forces because then it excuses all
of their own insufficiencies and insecurities and the lack of
being willing to do things that are good day in
(31:25):
and day out, which is hard, and it can it
can get even, You can get crazier and crazier over time,
or people start to cheer for people like this, or
they even become an assassin themselves, like this guy did well.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And this is where I think so many parents out
there think to themselves.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I just we've had the killer destroyed Charlie Kirk's family.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
He also destroyed his own family, Yes, because can you
imagine the dad having to who works in law enforcement,
having to come to grips with his son, someone that
he raised inside of his household for his entire life,
at twenty two years old, climbing onto a building and
assassinating someone. His son's life is over. He may well
(32:10):
deservedly get the death penalty for this. That killer destroyed
Charlie Kirk's family beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
It's inexcusable. He also destroyed his own family.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
And all of the effort and energy and intent that
goes into raising a child. I just I can't even
imagine it, and I know you can look at it
from both perspectives.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Here.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Can you imagine being a police officer and having to
turn in your son for committing an assassination. That's what
just had to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Here.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate
all of you. We'll take some of your calls, your feedback,
your reaction. During the course of Friday's program, we got
a couple of callers out there. Let's try to bring
in some of those. Trent in Kansas, he's a trucker
out there. Trent, what you got for us? Appreciate you
calling in.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted
to kind of describe what I can only describe as
my family's kind of relationship with Charlie Kirk. Obviously we
didn't know him. You know, I listen to you guys
every day. My wife is completely non polit If something's
going on, really she expects me to fill her in
(35:04):
and keep her informed and stuff. But the one person
that she did watch and pay attention to on the
regular was Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
And you know, why do you think that was?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
By the way, she said, sorry to cut you off,
but I'm just kind of interested. You said, your wife's
not particularly political. Why do you think she found Charlie?
Why do you think she watched him? I'm just kind
of curious.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Well, she she actually found him because of me, because
I you know, I would watch his videos and she
just liked what he had to say. She liked that
he would engage with people that didn't you know, that
hated him. Really, I mean, he would engage with anybody,
and she liked that, and she liked what he had
to say. She would listen to what he had to say.
(35:47):
But it wasn't just my wife. My six year old
daughter when she rides with me, she looks forward to
listening to you guys. She like she voluntarily watched the
Joint Address of Congress with me, and she would watch
and listen to Charlie and she would engage with us.
She engages with us when we do those kinds of things.
(36:08):
She asks questions and she wants to be involved and informed.
And that's to me, that's just what kind of Charlie did.
Was you know, he spoke to the masses, whether you
liked him or not, or whether he's you know he
I mean, he would he would just talk to everybody.
And you know, it doesn't matter your background or your
(36:34):
you know, beliefs or whatever I feel like whatever, you know,
what he said applied to everybody you know.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah, thank you, thank you for the call.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I think that's why he had such connectivity with so
many different people. Will continue to take your calls, your feedback,
your talkback as we roll through the Friday edition of
the program.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
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