September 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and emotionally charged breakdown of the memorial event for conservative activist Charlie Kirk, whose recent assassination has galvanized the conservative movement.
Clay and Buck reflect on the massive turnout in Phoenix—nearly 90,000 attendees—and the impactful speeches delivered by Vice President JD Vance, President Donald Trump, Senior White House Advisor Steven Miller, and Charlie's widow, Erica Kirk, whose message of forgiveness and revival resonated deeply across the country.
Erica Kirk’s speech, delivered just 48 hours after her husband’s death, is highlighted as the most compelling moment of the day. Her biblical reference and refusal to incite violence underscore the conservative response to tragedy—marked by peace, unity, and spiritual renewal. Clay and Buck contrast this with leftist reactions to political violence, criticizing the media’s silence and the justification of riots as “the voice of the voiceless.”
The hosts also dive into broader political commentary, including California’s controversial law barring ICE agents from wearing masks, which they label “lawless” and contemptuous of immigration enforcement. They discuss the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by a trans-identifying individual, noting the lack of media coverage and accountability, and tying it to the leaked Roe v. Wade decision.
Kamala Harris’s new book becomes a focal point of debate. Buck pre-orders the memoir, promising to dissect its “score-settling” tone. The hosts mock its reception and suggest it as a punishment for fantasy football losers. They also speculate on Harris’s political future, with Stephen A. Smith declaring her career “over,” while Clay argues she may still run due to personal ambition and a perceived lack of alternatives. Gavin Newsom’s refusal to return Harris’s call during her campaign is cited as symbolic of intra-party rivalry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are rolling into the Monday edition of the Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I met a lot of you up in Michigan over
the weekend, the great event at Mcinaw Island for the
Republican Party of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As we move along, but Sunday taken over by the
Charlie Kirk Memorial that I would venture to say almost
all of you out there listening right now watched at
least a part of, if not substantial parts of I
know that many of you were among the ninety some
odd thousand that were in that stadium or the overflow
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crowd in the arena in the Phoenix area, and so
I thought, of course that we should start there. Buck,
I'll bring you in right off the top here. I watched,
full disclosure, a lot of NFL football, as I also
bet many of you did on Sunday, but I wanted
to make sure that I saw every minute of jd Vance,
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every minute of Erica Kirk, and every minute of Donald Trump.
As the keynote for a day of memorial for Charlie Kirk.
It was I thought an incredibly well done event. We've
got several different cuts to play. But I imagine you
also were watching a lot of this during the course
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of your Sunday, perhaps unburdened by any concern about NFL
football as well, you might have had it on the
entire day.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You are accurate in your assumptions there, Yeah, Kerrie, in particular,
I wanted to watch.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Really almost the whole thing, I think. I mean, it
was on for hours.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I did a bit of babysitting, and so I wasn't
able to give it my undivided attention because speed is
adorable but fussy sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But I did get to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I watched Trump's speech, I watched Erica's speech, jd Vance,
Stephen Miller, who I thought gave a a.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
In his own Steven Miller way.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Spectacular speeches, very much a rallying cry, very much about
the fight for the future that Charlie would want us
all to engage in and stay focused on. But it
was an incredible event and a fitting tribute to a
remarkable young man, remarkable conservative father, husband and American So
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it really it really came together very well.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Let's play what I thought was the most unbelievable resonant
moment of a day filled with many of them, and
that was Erica Kirk, who I just what an incredible
job she did last week on the Friday, to within
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forty eight hours of her husband's assassination. But then to
come out and perform in front of this crowd in
such a way that she did is frankly extraordinary. And
I thought the moment, and this is the cover of
the New York Post today, This is the clip that
is circulating more than any other, is Erica Kirk forgiving
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Charlie's assassin.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Here is cut one.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
My husband, Charlie.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He wanted to save young men, just like the one
who took his life on the cross. Our savior said, Father,
forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean buck.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That was and that's thirty seconds of a five or
six hour event. But I thought it distilled perfectly her message.
One more cut, And I do think this is important
to after Charlie Kirk's assassination, not one person that I
have seen who was a Charlie Kirk supporter has been
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arrested for an act of violence, for lashing out, looting,
rioting in any way. And Erica Kirk pointed that out
cut to.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
After Charlie's assassination, we didn't see violence, we didn't see rioting,
(04:38):
we didn't see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband
always prayed he would see in this country.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We saw revival.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I thought those two clips perfectly distilled the entire day.
Buck anything else stand out to you, And I'm sure
that you were as blown away by eric A. Kirk,
who was not a professional politician, who was not a
professional speech giver, and the fact that to me, she
was the most compelling of anyone that took the stage yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
It was what we, I think all expected it to
be in terms of the power and the emotion of
the gathering. You had not just the President himself, but
every top White House advisor, top Republicans, people who all
wanted to pay tribute to Charlie and to turning point
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into the movement that he has created it. And I
just think that this solidified if anybody had any questions,
and I think there are people do have anxieties about,
oh my gosh, you know, will the work continue, will.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
We stay in the fight?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think that this memorial, this service for Charlie, with
almost one hundred thousand people in attendance, answered those questions
and then some and.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Showed that this is going to be a life's work.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Is that is celebrated, It's obviously incredibly sad, and we
think about his wife and his children and his family, and.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That pain is still very much there.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But Charlie accomplished so much in his thirty one years
that it will continue to inspire Americans and I think
have incredibly positive effects on the country for not just years,
but generations to come. And that's what greater tribute for
the movement and the work that he did.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Could you have them that?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I also think it's time for us to in the
event that we have these riots and this looting you
always hear, you know, looting and rioting is the voice
of the voiceless. All these things, No, it's just an
excuse to steal things and there is no emotion. If
if all of these people can see what happened to
Charlie Kirk killed in cold blood, the video widely distributed everywhere,
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A innocent person engaged in a free speech event and
the response to that is a revival church like event,
then I think any argument that in any way. This
is what they try to say on the left. Oh,
it's justified. It's the voice of the voiceless. You know,
all the things that they that they trod out there.
(07:18):
I hope that in the future, when there is a
scintilla of violent acts, that people are better than what
Tim Walls was, because I think if Minnesota, Frankly had
a governor with a spine, I think they would have
stopped the rioting instantaneously in Minneapolis. I think if they had,
it would not have spread everywhere else. I hope that
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we have learned how to shut down violent protests buck.
I think what happened with Trump in LA is a
good example of this. I think he saw these could
be nationwide ice protests. No one wants to talk about it.
He called in the National Guard, they arrested people, and
basically the protest ended. And I'm not saying you can't protest.
(08:00):
You and I were big free speech proponents. I'm perfectly
fine with you making a poster board and going and
marching for whatever you believe in. But you don't have
the right to get a Molotov cocktail and light a
police car on fire. You don't have the right to
burn down buildings, You don't have the right to act
in anger, and the fact that we allowed that to happen,
I think is a dark stain on America's soul. And
(08:23):
I think the response to what happened to Charlie Kirk
has shown us that we can be angry, we can
be outraged, but we can be constructive and productive in
the way that we respond to it. And I hope
that we have this example of how to deal with, frankly,
a political assassination the likes of which most of us
had never lived through. I hope it is something that
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will be a lesson going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, this is also a moment where you see that
any attempt at both sides ism in American politics today
is dishonest because there's no boarding up of stores, there's
no fear of riots and bloodshed in the streets, which
is obviously a good thing, and that is also what
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our expectation is, meaning that if that stuff started to happen,
people on the right would say, knock that off, we
don't do that, or what are you doing. You're playing
into the other side's hands to what you were saying
a moment ago, Clay the left can pick any issue
and they can start acting like maniacs in the streets.
They can have formerly Biden and then Kamala voters come
(09:27):
forward and say that what they're doing is somehow justified
because of filling the blank, you know, historical grievances, systematic racism,
you know, the transgenocide, whatever it may be, they have
to make or they choose to make allowances on their
side for those kinds of transgressions because it is baked
(09:50):
into the ideology. Honestly, emotional instability is one of the
unifying characteristics of the left. Unfortunately, at the extremes that
means people that are violent and destructive, and we've seen
far too much of that. So it was exactly the
kind of memorial and remembrance and celebration of life that
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we would want to see for based on the principles
that Charlie stood for and based on the kind of
guy that he was. So I think that everybody should,
to the degree that we're all still grieving and healing,
but everyone should feel quite proud of how the right
came together and how people are celebrating Charlie's life and
his work.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I also think it's hard not to think that there
are going to be a lot of Charlie Kirks that
rise up. It's impossible to replace any legend. You and
I sit here at the golden microphone talking to everybody
out there every single day. What it takes is a
lot of people to lift their voices and be courageous
(10:52):
and brave. And I do believe there are a lot
of young people that this will have a transformative impact
on their life, and I think you're already starting to
see it. I mentioned my boys, my teenage boys wearing
coats and ties. All the boys in their school doing
it too. Even though Buck, you remember when you had
to wear an out They hate wearing coats and ties,
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but that is something that they recognize is worthy of commemoration,
of memorialization. I think there are so many young people
out there that are going to be continuing to be
impacted by Charlie Kirk in a very very significant way.
And I think that's the positive evocation of the event.
(11:35):
We'll take some of your calls, maybe some of you
were there. No guests today, so we've got a lot
to react to. We'll have some fun that fallout of
Kamala Harris's book, Buck ish it is glorious. I have
to say I have a lot of thoughts, Clay, I
have a lot of thoughts. And you and I were
on We can have some fun. You and I were
on Katie Kaylee mcinally's show, her debut, and a lot
(12:01):
of people were not happy with my lighting, not happy
with my tie, and so we will have some fun
with that as well. But congratulations to Kaylee on the
new show, and we were happy to be among her
first guests ever. Her dad, big Mississippi State fan, got
a big game going on in Starkviille this weekend against
the University of Tennessee. I'm sure he's listening right now.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck a bunch of news
stories to put on your radar.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
We're going to dive into some of them here. Shortly.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
California has barred ICE agents from wearing masks play. This
doesn't go into effect until January. They know it's going
to be challenged, but we should talk about this, just
the the utter contempt for immigration enforcement that the state
government of California has, along with some other states who
are trying to pass similar laws, which are these are
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lawless laws. They know that they don't have the authority
to do this. They're just doing it anyway, and they
know the court will eventually overturn them, but they are
just doing it anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
This just came out, Clay, and because of some other
bigger stories, I think got far less attention that it
would have otherwise. The the wacko who said he wanted
to kill a Supreme Court justice Kavanaugh is now identifies
as a trans woman.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, so there's.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That we can discuss a bit more on that, Just
to mention that tu Buck, nobody is covering it, like
the fact that this guy is trans. First of all,
we should dive into this in a little bit. But
the fact that we had a Supreme Court justice that
was attempted to be assassinated. The guy now says, hey,
I knew that if I killed enough people Roe v.
(14:45):
Wade wouldn't be overturned. I mean, this is another direct
political assassination from the left attempt and most people just
pretend it never happened.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And there's another part of that, Clay, which is that
they released the decision illicitly early a left clearly we
never found out who it was. Somebody knew that Roe
was about to be overturned. Somebody who works in the
Supreme Court, Okay, new Roe was going to be done
and decided, maybe we can change history or change the
(15:17):
future here if we put it out there and someone
takes action. That's exactly what this was. Yes, So that
should not be forgotten that there was a whole series
of events leading up to this now trends identifying individual
who said he wanted to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh,
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trying to keep Roe v. Wade the so called law
of the land. It was lawless all along. That's one.
And then on a far less serious note, but an
interesting note. Nonetheless, Clay, Kamala Harris's book is not going
over well with people. And I've got to tell you
(15:58):
this is not a surprise to me. I am, I have,
I have downloaded Kamala's book to my Kindle and I
have a long flight.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You paid, you paid for Kamala's book. Wait, hold on, Clay,
you got after me for buying Original Sin and reading
it and there was actual news in there. This is
big breaking news. You bought Kamala's book.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm I am.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Actually it might even be in my in my Amazon car.
But by during the show today it will be it
will be bought. I would have lost a lot of
money on the bet. Will Buck buy Kamala's book? Hold on,
I Clay am an aspiring Kamala ology, Kamalala Kamalologists. Come,
how do we say the A a expert in Kamala.
(16:46):
I am a expert in all things Kamala. And so
I am going to read her book. I'm going to
read her book. I'm going to be able to bring
you lots of mockery of this have said book.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And I am not the only one because people out
there are.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
They are not liking the score settling, which goes to
my point that her future in the Democrat Party is
essentially zero.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But we disagree you we should have some let's talk
about this when we come back. But I will say this,
a brilliant voice weight in on my side of this, Brillianah,
I know we will play that we come back. Let's
have some fun with this. I will say, if you
are out there and you play fantasy football, and you
are looking for punishments that someone might have to serve
(17:34):
if they come in last place, this is the thing
in fantasy football Kamala Harris's book and a book report
with drafted analysis like a written book report as if
you are a kid, would be a phenomenal point. People
would just use chat GPT, but they should have to
read it on their on their Instagram or their social
media account. You know, they have to read their book
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Show Huge Kamala Harris Fan buck Sexton getting the book
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or least on the day it comes out? Did you
buy an autograph copy like you get your Kamala pjs.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
To read it in?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
To be clear, the reason that I wasn't. I've pre
ordered it, right, so that's it's it's pre ordered, but
it is officially pre ordered. I will have it on
release day, is it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm not a kindle reader, so I assume at like
twelve oh one am and immediately downloads to your kindle.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Is that the way it works?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I assume that when you go with your future is
female T shirt, your man bunn, and your thick rimmed
glasses to the Kamala Book event, Clay, that you will
tell her that that your esteemed co host is a
fan of her work and would like assigned copy assigned
copy of the Kamala Memoir, which I will tell you
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is already in the excerpts that have come out, upsetting
a lot of Democrats because it's a scornful, spiteful, score
settling Medley is what I'm picking up from the the
early early excerpts that you can read.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I will say this, I love that she said she
couldn't pick Mayor Pete because he was gay, and she
thought America wasn't ready for a black woman and a
gay vice president.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And then she went and picked Tim.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Wallas as her vice as her vice president, who, frankly,
maybe I think is far less masculine than Mayor Pete, Like,
I mean, come on, this is this is absolutely ridiculous.
But Bunk has now made good friends. I debated steven A.
Smith more of a conversation than a debate on Tuesday
in New York City, as many of you know, and
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steven A he went off on Kamala Harris co signing
the buck Sexton take that her political career is over
cut nine, screaming a Smith, he's fired up about Kamala.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Listen, I believe Kamala Harris's political career is over. I
think you've seen the last of us with this book. Politically,
I'm quite sure she's a highly intelligent woman, very accomplished.
She's a former state attorney general, she's a former senator,
she's a former Vice president of the United States, and
obviously the Democratic nominee for the presidency of the United
States in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
But this was the last straw.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
And I'm going to tell you why, because although I'm
certainly not an advocate of her diming out her boss
and talking about whatever deficiencies.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He may have had.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
You could have said something, you could have done something
other than what you did. And I don't want to
hear about one hundred and seven days and that's all
you had. You know what one hundred and seven days
gave you. He gave you the opportunity to take over
the campaign and do it your way instead of capitulating
to what his people wanted you to do, and you
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doing whatever you thought was necessary under the realm or
the guise of you know, loyalty, and in some people's eyes,
costing yourself the presidency.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Stephen A. Fellow is eloquent and on point with this one.
Mister ka wait, wait, wait, hold on, kicks, well you
have to say that over this hold on.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I know, I just want to play the first five
seconds of that clip a gay. Can you guys all
just play it just so I could hear it one
more time.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I believe Kamala Harris's political career is over.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh there we go.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I'm sorry, the sweet sweet sounds in my I'm sorry. Yes,
we have a stake bet about this, Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I just I think that Kamala Harris has a deep
hole in her soul, and I don't believe it can
be stated in any way by your theory, which I
think would be a healthy thing, right. I think it
would be healthy on some level. If Kamala Harris just said, hey,
you know what, make me president of UCLA, or you
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know one of the greatest places in the entire world,
Santa Barbara, California, and it is unbelievably, breathtakingly beautiful. There,
Make me the head of UCSB, and I'll go chill
by the ocean and have an amazing life.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
All those things I agree with would make sense. That's
not her.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think she's gonna run because I don't think she
has anything else that can fulfill the deep hole of
her soul.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So here, here's where I come in. And I have
to say, high fiving mister stephen A. I was just
in Clay's corner. I feel like a turncoat over here.
I'll said, go get them. Clay and you guys had
a very respectful and robust conversation. Really wasn't like a knockdown,
slap him kind of debate situation. And now I feel
like I'm in stephen A's corner on this one, at
least just for this one issue, because I see it
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the way that he does. And it's because as you
as you noted, I've always thought that Kamala she I've
even chosen the job she's going to become provost chancellor
president at UC School.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I think your philosophy is a good one if she
actually were not broken psychologically.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But but here's here's where I think she's got more. Uh,
there's there's more of an issue. She's not super rich,
like she's not Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yet.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean she's you know, she's not right, she's not
super rich yet. Her husband I think does well, you know,
I means they're wealthy. I think they're worth like ten
million dollars or something. Wasn't they have to disclose this stuff?
And she still can play some role in the next
generation transition king maker, et cetera. If she goes out
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there and gets a ny because remember, if you're running
against her, you're going to make the arguments that you
and I are making here about she didn't say anything
when Biden had dementia.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
She hid from the media.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
People thought she was worse than the dementia guy, which
is why the whole Democrat apparatus was still pushing her
like it's a humiliation ritual.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
She's going to go through if she runs again.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
If I if I am her advisor and truly and
as we know Clay, I'm an aspiring Ka kamolologist. If
I am her advisor, I would tell her you have
a better you have better prospects of making money and
having some you know, sway in the machinery of the
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Democrat Party if you play pivot transition person to the
next and not I'm going to go in there and
try to make.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Myself the nominee again.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Now, you may be right because of her insatiable ego
and narcissism. I'm not like betting the house on this one.
I'm betting a stake on this one. But to me,
she just she blew all of the political capital that
she had in this last election, and so to go
forward now it just makes her look like even you know,
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she does further damage to the brand.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That's my take. I could be wrong, but Steven A
doesn't think so.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Look, if we had said on January tenth of twenty
twenty one, Trump is going to run again in twenty
twenty four and he is going to win a landslide
election victory in November of twenty twenty four, that would
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have been seen as an outrageous and outlandish per even
by most of the people that are listening to us
right now, many of whom voted for Trump three times.
A lot of you would have said, you're crazy, Clay.
I think four years a long time, and I just
look at it. All of these Democrat candidates have outrageously
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huge flaws, and so I look at it. I think
you said over the weekend or on Friday, because I
was out traveling up to Michigan. I don't dislike your
take of Newsom AOC as the you know, potential presidential
candidate I a ticket. I don't think that's a bad
president vice president prediction. I love that Newsom never called
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Kamala back. I don't know that we've talked about this
on the show's Kamala in her book said she called
Gavin Newsom he said, hiking, will call you back, and never.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Called her back. I mean that is that is like
cold blooded.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That is worse than when you ask a girl to
the prom and she's like, I've got to go wash
my hair, and you never. Gavin Newso the entire campaign,
never called Kamawa back after she called to ask for
his support when he got when she got elevated on
the coronation, I would.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Argue that that's even colder than the non response.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
If he had non respond to her non response, you
can always say I didn't see it, I meant to.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I got super busy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I'm hiking, which is a fancy way of saying walking outside.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't have time to talk to you while you're
running for president. Is that's ice cold, dude, That's that
is polar vortex cold. So my take on that is
she'd really hates some of these people.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yes, she really hates some of these people, because if
you right in there hiking, he never called me back.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I think she and Gavin Newsom hate each other.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I think she sees he's not running as effectively
being a coronation of Gavin Newsom. I also think, think
about how bad like I would have called Kamala Harris
back if buck think about this, I mean clarly, I
would have called Kamala back to wish her well in
her book. Yeah you you would have been You would
have never missed the call. You would have been sitting
(28:19):
there with it opened like this, wouldn't even have Hardley photo.
Her photo would come up right away on the phone. Yeah,
you wouldn't even have the first ring. You would have
hit answer. I I would have called Kamala Harris back me.
If Kamala Harrison called me, Trump called her back. They
talked multiple times, according to the book. You'll be able
(28:39):
to update this when it downloads to your kindle at
twelve o one am tomorrow and you're eagerly reading the
first page, I uh, buck, what are you doing. I'm
gonna stay up late. I'm gonna read the first the
Kamala Harris book as soon as it arrived twelve o
one on my kindle. I think that she hates these guys.
I think she's motivated by grudges. I think again, the
hole in her soul she filled disrespected and candidly. If
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somebody doesn't call me back, I feel disrespected much less
if I'm calling them to tell them that I'm running
for president of the United States. That is Gavin Newsom
being so dismissive of Kamala that he never believed she
could win. I mean, this story is I actually think
a really good you're I think you're there's an analogy here,
(29:23):
or there's a historical precedent clay of female politician whole
in Seoul very much aligned on that missed the big one,
didn't run the next time around. Hillary Clinton twenty twenty. Yeah, Now,
I think the analogy on Hillary would be Bill Clinton
was president twice, she was a senator. I think she
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felt like she she actually ran a campaign that she
thought was a good one and lost, and I think
she decided they're just never gonna elect me. I think
Hillary that sole hole in her soul grew, and I
don't know about that. In all honesty, I don't know
about the health conditions of Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I do think they also had.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
One hundred million in the bank, and so there was
a different The motivations are always different here. Look, yeah,
running for president now is a financial decision, a brand
and financial Running for president financial and brand decision for
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That are not already independently wealthy. I do think that
the way that she feels disrespected and the title of
her book one hundred and seven Days presumes, I think
it's wrong. I think you would agree with this. I'll
be curious after you read it. The longer she was
in the race, the less likely she was to win it.
I think she's misreading the time as an issue. It
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wasn't that people didn't know enough about Kamala. It was
that they knew enough to know that they didn't want
to vote for her. And the longer she's spent in
the race, the less likely it was they were going
to vote for her. And so I think if she
had had a thousand days, which or seven hundred days
or whatever, which is basically how long you have to
run if you're announcing, I think she's gonna announce it.
(31:04):
I think she's gonna run, So I'm sticking to it.
She like, I like where you are on this one.
She uh, remember when they were not having her do
any media and we were on the air talking about
this and saying how could they? This is just the
craziest thing. And then she did her first media and
(31:25):
it was a reminder that they were in an impossible decision.
They could not both of the decisions hide her let
her talk both horrible and in fact, I'm not sure
which one is worse. So that was the candidate that
the Democrats offered up. And I here's the thing, Clay,
I think at look Gavin Newsom, that guy. You know,
(31:47):
if it means that he gets power, he'll fight as
dirty as anybody in American politics.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You and I both know it. Right For all of his.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Suave you know, wind swept sand in the hair and
open shirt and everything, he would you know, he would
shove Grandma out of the way and break her hip
if he had to, Like he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, remember when we.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Said Gavin Newsom was definitely as excited as he could
possibly be when Donald Trump won. Oh yeah, the fact
that he never called Kamaala back. He wanted Trump to
win with every fabric of his being. And I bet
they I bet they toasted. I bet they broke open
wine bottles. I bet they had a party that you
(32:30):
have not seen the likes of since he was hanging out.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
At the But I think that's because I think that's
because he knows that California is his now and that
the base of the Democrat Party is his.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's his, he's his platform, and if.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
She tries to fight him for it. This is what
I'm getting to. He is good all the stuff, everything,
you know. This this I'm stuck hiking, sorry, is gonna
be the nicest thing he's ever said to her.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I was hiking and he didn't call her back in
one hundred and seven days. That's crazy to me. There's
a long hike.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I mean, I mean you didn't have time to ever
call her back. I mean that is pretty pretty crazy. Honestly,
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What's going on?
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Carol, Hi, Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I just want to give another perspective. I don't think
they ever thought that she could win.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
That's why they put her in because she was a
throwaway candidate. Nobody wanted to be in that role. And
if she does run again, she won't get their endorsement
and she won't be the one who actually goes against
the Republican.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Carol Kenna before I let Clay Way in with real analysis.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
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on social media?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
What do you think? Absolutely? That sounds fair to me, I, Carol,
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
She's also I think a Colts fan and very excited
about Daniel Jones having the Colts three to zero. I
will say that's what she told the screener. Anyway, I
don't think Kamla is going to be the nominee. I'm
just saying she's gonna run, and I think there is
a pathway for her to get the nomination. But I
agree that she's not a good candidate and more time
(36:24):
actually hurts her.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, well, I would not even let you take a bet.
I'm effectively certain she won't be the nominee. At least
in my head. The only question as.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Will she run?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I still think she won't, you think she will. We'll
see what ends up happening. But why do we talk
about this other than it's just fun to make fun
of Kamala. It's because it shows you what Democrat disarray
is right now, and where their leadership is, what kind
of decisions they're making, and what we're going to face
in the not distant future.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Clay is Jimmy Kimmel coming back. Let's talk about it.
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are rolling into the Monday edition of the Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I met a lot of you up in Michigan over
the weekend, the great event at Mcinaw Island for the
Republican Party of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As we move along, but Sunday taken over by the
Charlie Kirk Memorial that I would venture to say almost
all of you out there listening right now watched at
least a part of, if not substantial parts of I
know that many of you were among the ninety some
odd thousand that were in that stadium or the overflow
(00:41):
crowd in the arena in the Phoenix area, and so
I thought, of course that we should start there. Buck,
I'll bring you in right off the top here. I watched,
full disclosure, a lot of NFL football, as I also
bet many of you did on Sunday, but I wanted
to make sure that I saw every minute of jd Vance,
(01:04):
every minute of Erica Kirk, and every minute of Donald Trump.
As the keynote for a day of memorial for Charlie Kirk.
It was I thought an incredibly well done event. We've
got several different cuts to play. But I imagine you
also were watching a lot of this during the course
(01:26):
of your Sunday, perhaps unburdened by any concern about NFL
football as well, you might have had it on the
entire day.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You are accurate in your assumptions there, Yeah, Kerrie, in particular,
I wanted to watch.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Really almost the whole thing, I think. I mean, it
was on for hours.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I did a bit of babysitting, and so I wasn't
able to give it my undivided attention because speed is
adorable but fussy sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But I did get to watch.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I watched Trump's speech, I watched Erica's speech, jd Vance,
Stephen Miller, who I thought gave a a.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
In his own Steven Miller way.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Spectacular speeches, very much a rallying cry, very much about
the fight for the future that Charlie would want us
all to engage in and stay focused on. But it
was an incredible event and a fitting tribute to a
remarkable young man, remarkable conservative father, husband and American So
(02:23):
it really it really came together very well.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Let's play what I thought was the most unbelievable resonant
moment of a day filled with many of them, and
that was Erica Kirk, who I just what an incredible
job she did last week on the Friday, to within
(02:47):
forty eight hours of her husband's assassination. But then to
come out and perform in front of this crowd in
such a way that she did is frankly extraordinary. And
I thought the moment, and this is the cover of
the New York Post today, This is the clip that
is circulating more than any other, is Erica Kirk forgiving
(03:10):
Charlie's assassin.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Here is cut one.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
My husband, Charlie.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He wanted to save young men, just like the one
who took his life on the cross. Our savior said, Father,
forgive them for they not know what they do.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
That man, that young man, I forgive him.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean buck.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That was and that's thirty seconds of a five or
six hour event. But I thought it distilled perfectly her message.
One more cut, And I do think this is important
to after Charlie Kirk's assassination, not one person that I
have seen who was a Charlie Kirk supporter has been
(04:09):
arrested for an act of violence, for lashing out, looting,
rioting in any way. And Erica Kirk pointed that out
cut to.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
After Charlie's assassination, we didn't see violence, we didn't see rioting,
(04:38):
we didn't see revolution. Instead, we saw what my husband
always prayed he would see in this country.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We saw revival.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I thought those two clips perfectly distilled the entire day.
Buck anything else stand out to you, And I'm sure
that you were as blown away by eric A. Kirk,
who was not a professional politician, who was not a
professional speech giver, and the fact that to me, she
was the most compelling of anyone that took the stage yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
It was what we, I think all expected it to
be in terms of the power and the emotion of
the gathering. You had not just the President himself, but
every top White House advisor, top Republicans, people who all
wanted to pay tribute to Charlie and to turning point
(05:35):
into the movement that he has created it. And I
just think that this solidified if anybody had any questions,
and I think there are people do have anxieties about,
oh my gosh, you know, will the work continue, will.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
We stay in the fight?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think that this memorial, this service for Charlie, with
almost one hundred thousand people in attendance, answered those questions
and then some and.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Showed that this is going to be a life's work.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Is that is celebrated, It's obviously incredibly sad, and we
think about his wife and his children and his family, and.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That pain is still very much there.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But Charlie accomplished so much in his thirty one years
that it will continue to inspire Americans and I think
have incredibly positive effects on the country for not just years,
but generations to come. And that's what greater tribute for
the movement and the work that he did.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Could you have them that?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I also think it's time for us to in the
event that we have these riots and this looting you
always hear, you know, looting and rioting is the voice
of the voiceless. All these things, No, it's just an
excuse to steal things and there is no emotion. If
if all of these people can see what happened to
Charlie Kirk killed in cold blood, the video widely distributed everywhere,
(06:58):
A innocent person engaged in a free speech event and
the response to that is a revival church like event,
then I think any argument that in any way. This
is what they try to say on the left. Oh,
it's justified. It's the voice of the voiceless. You know,
all the things that they that they trod out there.
(07:18):
I hope that in the future, when there is a
scintilla of violent acts, that people are better than what
Tim Walls was, because I think if Minnesota, Frankly had
a governor with a spine, I think they would have
stopped the rioting instantaneously in Minneapolis. I think if they had,
it would not have spread everywhere else. I hope that
(07:39):
we have learned how to shut down violent protests buck.
I think what happened with Trump in LA is a
good example of this. I think he saw these could
be nationwide ice protests. No one wants to talk about it.
He called in the National Guard, they arrested people, and
basically the protest ended. And I'm not saying you can't protest.
(08:00):
You and I were big free speech proponents. I'm perfectly
fine with you making a poster board and going and
marching for whatever you believe in. But you don't have
the right to get a Molotov cocktail and light a
police car on fire. You don't have the right to
burn down buildings, You don't have the right to act
in anger, and the fact that we allowed that to happen,
I think is a dark stain on America's soul. And
(08:23):
I think the response to what happened to Charlie Kirk
has shown us that we can be angry, we can
be outraged, but we can be constructive and productive in
the way that we respond to it. And I hope
that we have this example of how to deal with, frankly,
a political assassination the likes of which most of us
had never lived through. I hope it is something that
(08:44):
will be a lesson going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, this is also a moment where you see that
any attempt at both sides ism in American politics today
is dishonest because there's no boarding up of stores, there's
no fear of riots and bloodshed in the streets, which
is obviously a good thing, and that is also what
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our expectation is, meaning that if that stuff started to happen,
people on the right would say, knock that off, we
don't do that, or what are you doing. You're playing
into the other side's hands to what you were saying
a moment ago, Clay the left can pick any issue
and they can start acting like maniacs in the streets.
They can have formerly Biden and then Kamala voters come
(09:27):
forward and say that what they're doing is somehow justified
because of filling the blank, you know, historical grievances, systematic racism,
you know, the transgenocide, whatever it may be, they have
to make or they choose to make allowances on their
side for those kinds of transgressions because it is baked
(09:50):
into the ideology. Honestly, emotional instability is one of the
unifying characteristics of the left. Unfortunately, at the extremes that
means people that are violent and destructive, and we've seen
far too much of that. So it was exactly the
kind of memorial and remembrance and celebration of life that
(10:10):
we would want to see for based on the principles
that Charlie stood for and based on the kind of
guy that he was. So I think that everybody should,
to the degree that we're all still grieving and healing,
but everyone should feel quite proud of how the right
came together and how people are celebrating Charlie's life and
his work.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I also think it's hard not to think that there
are going to be a lot of Charlie Kirks that
rise up. It's impossible to replace any legend. You and
I sit here at the golden microphone talking to everybody
out there every single day. What it takes is a
lot of people to lift their voices and be courageous
(10:52):
and brave. And I do believe there are a lot
of young people that this will have a transformative impact
on their life, and I think you're already starting to
see it. I mentioned my boys, my teenage boys wearing
coats and ties. All the boys in their school doing
it too. Even though Buck, you remember when you had
to wear an out They hate wearing coats and ties,
(11:14):
but that is something that they recognize is worthy of commemoration,
of memorialization. I think there are so many young people
out there that are going to be continuing to be
impacted by Charlie Kirk in a very very significant way.
And I think that's the positive evocation of the event.
(11:35):
We'll take some of your calls, maybe some of you
were there. No guests today, so we've got a lot
to react to. We'll have some fun that fallout of
Kamala Harris's book, Buck ish it is glorious. I have
to say I have a lot of thoughts, Clay, I
have a lot of thoughts. And you and I were
on We can have some fun. You and I were
on Katie Kaylee mcinally's show, her debut, and a lot
(12:01):
of people were not happy with my lighting, not happy
with my tie, and so we will have some fun
with that as well. But congratulations to Kaylee on the
new show, and we were happy to be among her
first guests ever. Her dad, big Mississippi State fan, got
a big game going on in Starkviille this weekend against
the University of Tennessee. I'm sure he's listening right now.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck a bunch of news
stories to put on your radar.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
We're going to dive into some of them here. Shortly.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
California has barred ICE agents from wearing masks play. This
doesn't go into effect until January. They know it's going
to be challenged, but we should talk about this, just
the the utter contempt for immigration enforcement that the state
government of California has, along with some other states who
are trying to pass similar laws, which are these are
(13:56):
lawless laws. They know that they don't have the authority
to do this. They're just doing it anyway, and they
know the court will eventually overturn them, but they are
just doing it anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
This just came out, Clay, and because of some other
bigger stories, I think got far less attention that it
would have otherwise. The the wacko who said he wanted
to kill a Supreme Court justice Kavanaugh is now identifies
as a trans woman.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, so there's.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That we can discuss a bit more on that, Just
to mention that tu Buck, nobody is covering it, like
the fact that this guy is trans. First of all,
we should dive into this in a little bit. But
the fact that we had a Supreme Court justice that
was attempted to be assassinated. The guy now says, hey,
I knew that if I killed enough people Roe v.
(14:45):
Wade wouldn't be overturned. I mean, this is another direct
political assassination from the left attempt and most people just
pretend it never happened.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And there's another part of that, Clay, which is that
they released the decision illicitly early a left clearly we
never found out who it was. Somebody knew that Roe
was about to be overturned. Somebody who works in the
Supreme Court, Okay, new Roe was going to be done
and decided, maybe we can change history or change the
(15:17):
future here if we put it out there and someone
takes action. That's exactly what this was. Yes, So that
should not be forgotten that there was a whole series
of events leading up to this now trends identifying individual
who said he wanted to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh,
(15:37):
trying to keep Roe v. Wade the so called law
of the land. It was lawless all along. That's one.
And then on a far less serious note, but an
interesting note. Nonetheless, Clay, Kamala Harris's book is not going
over well with people. And I've got to tell you
(15:58):
this is not a surprise to me. I am, I have,
I have downloaded Kamala's book to my Kindle and I
have a long flight.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You paid, you paid for Kamala's book. Wait, hold on, Clay,
you got after me for buying Original Sin and reading
it and there was actual news in there. This is
big breaking news. You bought Kamala's book.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm I am.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Actually it might even be in my in my Amazon car.
But by during the show today it will be it
will be bought. I would have lost a lot of
money on the bet. Will Buck buy Kamala's book? Hold on,
I Clay am an aspiring Kamala ology, Kamalala Kamalologists. Come,
how do we say the A a expert in Kamala.
(16:46):
I am a expert in all things Kamala. And so
I am going to read her book. I'm going to
read her book. I'm going to be able to bring
you lots of mockery of this have said book.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And I am not the only one because people out
there are.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
They are not liking the score settling, which goes to
my point that her future in the Democrat Party is
essentially zero.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But we disagree you we should have some let's talk
about this when we come back. But I will say this,
a brilliant voice weight in on my side of this, Brillianah,
I know we will play that we come back. Let's
have some fun with this. I will say, if you
are out there and you play fantasy football, and you
are looking for punishments that someone might have to serve
(17:34):
if they come in last place, this is the thing
in fantasy football Kamala Harris's book and a book report
with drafted analysis like a written book report as if
you are a kid, would be a phenomenal point. People
would just use chat GPT, but they should have to
read it on their on their Instagram or their social
media account. You know, they have to read their book
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Show Huge Kamala Harris Fan buck Sexton getting the book
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or least on the day it comes out? Did you
buy an autograph copy like you get your Kamala pjs.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
To read it in?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
To be clear, the reason that I wasn't. I've pre
ordered it, right, so that's it's it's pre ordered, but
it is officially pre ordered. I will have it on
release day, is it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm not a kindle reader, so I assume at like
twelve oh one am and immediately downloads to your kindle.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Is that the way it works?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I assume that when you go with your future is
female T shirt, your man bunn, and your thick rimmed
glasses to the Kamala Book event, Clay, that you will
tell her that that your esteemed co host is a
fan of her work and would like assigned copy assigned
copy of the Kamala Memoir, which I will tell you
(19:44):
is already in the excerpts that have come out, upsetting
a lot of Democrats because it's a scornful, spiteful, score
settling Medley is what I'm picking up from the the
early early excerpts that you can read.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I will say this, I love that she said she
couldn't pick Mayor Pete because he was gay, and she
thought America wasn't ready for a black woman and a
gay vice president.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And then she went and picked Tim.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Wallas as her vice as her vice president, who, frankly,
maybe I think is far less masculine than Mayor Pete, Like,
I mean, come on, this is this is absolutely ridiculous.
But Bunk has now made good friends. I debated steven A.
Smith more of a conversation than a debate on Tuesday
in New York City, as many of you know, and
(20:37):
steven A he went off on Kamala Harris co signing
the buck Sexton take that her political career is over
cut nine, screaming a Smith, he's fired up about Kamala.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Listen, I believe Kamala Harris's political career is over. I
think you've seen the last of us with this book. Politically,
I'm quite sure she's a highly intelligent woman, very accomplished.
She's a former state attorney general, she's a former senator,
she's a former Vice president of the United States, and
obviously the Democratic nominee for the presidency of the United
States in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
But this was the last straw.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
And I'm going to tell you why, because although I'm
certainly not an advocate of her diming out her boss
and talking about whatever deficiencies.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He may have had.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
You could have said something, you could have done something
other than what you did. And I don't want to
hear about one hundred and seven days and that's all
you had. You know what one hundred and seven days
gave you. He gave you the opportunity to take over
the campaign and do it your way instead of capitulating
to what his people wanted you to do, and you
(21:43):
doing whatever you thought was necessary under the realm or
the guise of you know, loyalty, and in some people's eyes,
costing yourself the presidency.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Stephen A. Fellow is eloquent and on point with this one.
Mister ka wait, wait, wait, hold on, kicks, well you
have to say that over this hold on.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I know, I just want to play the first five
seconds of that clip a gay. Can you guys all
just play it just so I could hear it one
more time.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I believe Kamala Harris's political career is over.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh there we go.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I'm sorry, the sweet sweet sounds in my I'm sorry. Yes,
we have a stake bet about this, Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I just I think that Kamala Harris has a deep
hole in her soul, and I don't believe it can
be stated in any way by your theory, which I
think would be a healthy thing, right. I think it
would be healthy on some level. If Kamala Harris just said, hey,
you know what, make me president of UCLA, or you
(22:39):
know one of the greatest places in the entire world,
Santa Barbara, California, and it is unbelievably, breathtakingly beautiful. There,
Make me the head of UCSB, and I'll go chill
by the ocean and have an amazing life.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
All those things I agree with would make sense. That's
not her.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think she's gonna run because I don't think she
has anything else that can fulfill the deep hole of
her soul.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
So here, here's where I come in. And I have
to say, high fiving mister stephen A. I was just
in Clay's corner. I feel like a turncoat over here.
I'll said, go get them. Clay and you guys had
a very respectful and robust conversation. Really wasn't like a knockdown,
slap him kind of debate situation. And now I feel
like I'm in stephen A's corner on this one, at
least just for this one issue, because I see it
(23:24):
the way that he does. And it's because as you
as you noted, I've always thought that Kamala she I've
even chosen the job she's going to become provost chancellor
president at UC School.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I think your philosophy is a good one if she
actually were not broken psychologically.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But but here's here's where I think she's got more. Uh,
there's there's more of an issue. She's not super rich,
like she's not Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yet.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean she's you know, she's not right, she's not
super rich yet. Her husband I think does well, you know,
I means they're wealthy. I think they're worth like ten
million dollars or something. Wasn't they have to disclose this stuff?
And she still can play some role in the next
generation transition king maker, et cetera. If she goes out
(24:18):
there and gets a ny because remember, if you're running
against her, you're going to make the arguments that you
and I are making here about she didn't say anything
when Biden had dementia.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
She hid from the media.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
People thought she was worse than the dementia guy, which
is why the whole Democrat apparatus was still pushing her
like it's a humiliation ritual.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
She's going to go through if she runs again.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
If I if I am her advisor and truly and
as we know Clay, I'm an aspiring Ka kamolologist. If
I am her advisor, I would tell her you have
a better you have better prospects of making money and
having some you know, sway in the machinery of the
(25:00):
Democrat Party if you play pivot transition person to the
next and not I'm going to go in there and
try to make.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Myself the nominee again.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Now, you may be right because of her insatiable ego
and narcissism. I'm not like betting the house on this one.
I'm betting a stake on this one. But to me,
she just she blew all of the political capital that
she had in this last election, and so to go
forward now it just makes her look like even you know,
(25:30):
she does further damage to the brand.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That's my take. I could be wrong, but Steven A
doesn't think so.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Look, if we had said on January tenth of twenty
twenty one, Trump is going to run again in twenty
twenty four and he is going to win a landslide
election victory in November of twenty twenty four, that would
(25:56):
have been seen as an outrageous and outlandish per even
by most of the people that are listening to us
right now, many of whom voted for Trump three times.
A lot of you would have said, you're crazy, Clay.
I think four years a long time, and I just
look at it. All of these Democrat candidates have outrageously
(26:18):
huge flaws, and so I look at it. I think
you said over the weekend or on Friday, because I
was out traveling up to Michigan. I don't dislike your
take of Newsom AOC as the you know, potential presidential
candidate I a ticket. I don't think that's a bad
president vice president prediction. I love that Newsom never called
(26:41):
Kamala back. I don't know that we've talked about this
on the show's Kamala in her book said she called
Gavin Newsom he said, hiking, will call you back, and never.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Called her back. I mean that is that is like
cold blooded.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That is worse than when you ask a girl to
the prom and she's like, I've got to go wash
my hair, and you never. Gavin Newso the entire campaign,
never called Kamawa back after she called to ask for
his support when he got when she got elevated on
the coronation, I would.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Argue that that's even colder than the non response.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
If he had non respond to her non response, you
can always say I didn't see it, I meant to.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I got super busy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I'm hiking, which is a fancy way of saying walking outside.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't have time to talk to you while you're
running for president. Is that's ice cold, dude, That's that
is polar vortex cold. So my take on that is
she'd really hates some of these people.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yes, she really hates some of these people, because if
you right in there hiking, he never called me back.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I think she and Gavin Newsom hate each other.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I think she sees he's not running as effectively
being a coronation of Gavin Newsom. I also think, think
about how bad like I would have called Kamala Harris
back if buck think about this, I mean clarly, I
would have called Kamala back to wish her well in
her book. Yeah you you would have been You would
have never missed the call. You would have been sitting
(28:19):
there with it opened like this, wouldn't even have Hardley photo.
Her photo would come up right away on the phone. Yeah,
you wouldn't even have the first ring. You would have
hit answer. I I would have called Kamala Harris back me.
If Kamala Harrison called me, Trump called her back. They
talked multiple times, according to the book. You'll be able
(28:39):
to update this when it downloads to your kindle at
twelve o one am tomorrow and you're eagerly reading the
first page, I uh, buck, what are you doing. I'm
gonna stay up late. I'm gonna read the first the
Kamala Harris book as soon as it arrived twelve o
one on my kindle. I think that she hates these guys.
I think she's motivated by grudges. I think again, the
hole in her soul she filled disrespected and candidly. If
(29:02):
somebody doesn't call me back, I feel disrespected much less
if I'm calling them to tell them that I'm running
for president of the United States. That is Gavin Newsom
being so dismissive of Kamala that he never believed she
could win. I mean, this story is I actually think
a really good you're I think you're there's an analogy here,
(29:23):
or there's a historical precedent clay of female politician whole
in Seoul very much aligned on that missed the big one,
didn't run the next time around. Hillary Clinton twenty twenty. Yeah, Now,
I think the analogy on Hillary would be Bill Clinton
was president twice, she was a senator. I think she
(29:47):
felt like she she actually ran a campaign that she
thought was a good one and lost, and I think
she decided they're just never gonna elect me. I think
Hillary that sole hole in her soul grew, and I
don't know about that. In all honesty, I don't know
about the health conditions of Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I do think they also had.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
One hundred million in the bank, and so there was
a different The motivations are always different here. Look, yeah,
running for president now is a financial decision, a brand
and financial Running for president financial and brand decision for
a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That are not already independently wealthy. I do think that
the way that she feels disrespected and the title of
her book one hundred and seven Days presumes, I think
it's wrong. I think you would agree with this. I'll
be curious after you read it. The longer she was
in the race, the less likely she was to win it.
I think she's misreading the time as an issue. It
(30:44):
wasn't that people didn't know enough about Kamala. It was
that they knew enough to know that they didn't want
to vote for her. And the longer she's spent in
the race, the less likely it was they were going
to vote for her. And so I think if she
had had a thousand days, which or seven hundred days
or whatever, which is basically how long you have to
run if you're announcing, I think she's gonna announce it.
(31:04):
I think she's gonna run, So I'm sticking to it.
She like, I like where you are on this one.
She uh, remember when they were not having her do
any media and we were on the air talking about
this and saying how could they? This is just the
craziest thing. And then she did her first media and
(31:25):
it was a reminder that they were in an impossible decision.
They could not both of the decisions hide her let
her talk both horrible and in fact, I'm not sure
which one is worse. So that was the candidate that
the Democrats offered up. And I here's the thing, Clay,
I think at look Gavin Newsom, that guy. You know,
(31:47):
if it means that he gets power, he'll fight as
dirty as anybody in American politics.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You and I both know it. Right For all of his.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Suave you know, wind swept sand in the hair and
open shirt and everything, he would you know, he would
shove Grandma out of the way and break her hip
if he had to, Like he doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, remember when we.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Said Gavin Newsom was definitely as excited as he could
possibly be when Donald Trump won. Oh yeah, the fact
that he never called Kamaala back. He wanted Trump to
win with every fabric of his being. And I bet
they I bet they toasted. I bet they broke open
wine bottles. I bet they had a party that you
(32:30):
have not seen the likes of since he was hanging out.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
At the But I think that's because I think that's
because he knows that California is his now and that
the base of the Democrat Party is his.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's his, he's his platform, and if.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
She tries to fight him for it. This is what
I'm getting to. He is good all the stuff, everything,
you know. This this I'm stuck hiking, sorry, is gonna
be the nicest thing he's ever said to her.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I was hiking and he didn't call her back in
one hundred and seven days. That's crazy to me. There's
a long hike.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I mean, I mean you didn't have time to ever
call her back. I mean that is pretty pretty crazy. Honestly,
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Speaker 1 (35:27):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Carol, Hi, Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I just want to give another perspective. I don't think
they ever thought that she could win.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
That's why they put her in because she was a
throwaway candidate. Nobody wanted to be in that role. And
if she does run again, she won't get their endorsement
and she won't be the one who actually goes against
the Republican.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Carol Kenna before I let Clay Way in with real analysis.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
If Clay loses this bet, should he have to cut
up my steak and feed the first fighte to me
on social media?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
What do you think? Absolutely? That sounds fair to me, I, Carol,
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
She's also I think a Colts fan and very excited
about Daniel Jones having the Colts three to zero. I
will say that's what she told the screener. Anyway, I
don't think Kamla is going to be the nominee. I'm
just saying she's gonna run, and I think there is
a pathway for her to get the nomination. But I
agree that she's not a good candidate and more time
(36:24):
actually hurts her.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, well, I would not even let you take a bet.
I'm effectively certain she won't be the nominee. At least
in my head. The only question as.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Will she run?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I still think she won't, you think she will. We'll
see what ends up happening. But why do we talk
about this other than it's just fun to make fun
of Kamala. It's because it shows you what Democrat disarray
is right now, and where their leadership is, what kind
of decisions they're making, and what we're going to face
in the not distant future.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
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