November 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of political analysis, cultural commentary, and holiday reflections, setting the tone for Thanksgiving Eve. Buck broadcasts from New York City while Clay joins from Florida’s panhandle, sharing lighthearted banter before diving into major news and historical context. The hosts express gratitude to listeners, discuss family traditions, and preview holiday travel trends with 82 million Americans expected on the road. They recommend the Clay & Buck Podcast Network for road trips and share humorous anecdotes about family football games and holiday safety. President Donald Trump pardons the Thanksgiving turkeys, sparking discussion on his unique ability to make traditions entertaining. Breaking news: Georgia election interference case dismissed, marking the collapse of Trump’s last pending 2020-related prosecution. The hosts call this a historic moment, predicting all four cases will fail and framing it as a defeat of lawfare. Analysis of the New York case as “preposterous” and Georgia’s RICO case as “incompetent.” They argue Trump’s resilience and strategy—treating legal battles as a political campaign—will be studied for decades. Trump’s iconic “fight, fight, fight” moment is compared to the Gettysburg Address for its future historical significance. Praise for El Salvador’s crime turnaround as a model for U.S. cities like Memphis and D.C., advocating back-the-police policies and tough-on-crime measures before rehabilitation debates. Deep dive into U.S. history: elections during the Civil War and WWII, Revolutionary War realities versus myth, and reflections on Founding Fathers’ imperfections. Pop culture notes include Mel Gibson’s The Patriot, critiques of modern streaming content, and ideas for new American historical entertainment like a Crockett biopic. Preview of NFL Chiefs vs. Cowboys (Cowboys as 3-point underdogs) and college football’s Texas A&M vs. Texas rivalry, alongside other major Thanksgiving weekend matchups.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome everybody to the pre Thanksgiving edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm here in NYC, soon
to be known as Mom Donneville. There are not, in
fact breadlines yet on the streets. They're they're not singing
the Soviet national anthem anywhere, so that's a good thing.
(00:26):
We have my friend Clay Travis. Of course, he's coming
to you from the Panhandle also known as God's Country
on the Gulf of America. Lovely, lovely place, and we
have a much, we have a much to discuss with
you today. We have Miranda Devine gonna be joining us.
It's always got great things to talk about. We've got
(00:47):
cash Betel, director of the FBI, and we've been trying
to talk to Cashier for a while. We appreciate that
he will be on the air with us. More things
to talk to him about that we're even going to
have time for as you can. We'll get to as
much of it with him as we can. He is
very busy trying to both round up all the bad
guys out there with the FBI, hard at work and
(01:10):
keep the streets safe and reform that institution which was
desperately in need of just that, the FBI. So we
have a lot going on there. We've got some other
odds and enza Trump pardoning turkeys, which we are looking
forward to that discussion. Afton Baine, I cannot actually believe
(01:31):
that that is someone's and my name is Buck Sexton,
and I think that's I think Afton Baine is a
funky name. We'll talk about what this looks like in
Clay's because we have to this. This election is happening
in days. They are hoping everyone that you will be
if you live in this congressional district.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Which I do, which which my congressman.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, this Cliss would be Clay's congressman, which would be
pretty funny if he's in this wonderful red state of
Tennessee with among the most lunatic members of Congress out there.
She's AOC level crazy and maybe worse from what I said, I.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Think I think she's crazier than AOC.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And if you consider that she represents the state of
Tennessee and AOC represents New York, she is outrageously out
of line with the average Tennessee, and whereas the average
New Yorker you could at least argue, might support much
of what AOC would argue for. Also Buck big news
the Georgia decision with the Trump case, as we told you,
(02:37):
that is the Fanny Willis case that we told you
for garbage was years has officially been dismissed. And we'll
get into that more importantly. Maybe you're, as you said,
in New York City, and you have commandeered the staff.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
To be holding your baby son right now.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So we're where it's like the pilots of the plane
are now distracted by a cute baby boy. I looked
just down at my phone and Producer Alli I didn't
even know if she's working today.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Producer Alli is a jack of all trades. She handled
so many of the things as as ep here. But
with producers Greg and Mike, they are doing impromptu babysitting.
My wonderful wife Carrie got caught in traffic and she's
got You know.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
This is true for a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Even when you move to Florida, Clay, this is I
know so many New Yorkers we still keep our various
like long term relationships with doctors with your you know,
people with their barber, with their hair, all these things.
So she was trying to stack all these appointments this morning,
and it is a little late getting getting in here
to the studio. But it's no problem, I told her,
(03:44):
because Baby Speed is a show stopper and he's hanging
out with the staff in there. He's ready for his
own microphone. I'm telling you, he's having a great time.
So very much appreciate what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
We'll put that.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
We'll put up a Baby Speed with the team photo
on Clay and Buck. Great Thanksgiving being fair, you know, great,
great family fun going on, and we'll also have some
discussions about Thanksgiving and how thankful we are for all
of you, and how I think this country should be
thankful for the amazing position we find ourselves in, despite
the challenges, despite the things that aren't exactly as we
(04:16):
want them to be, and there are many of them.
It is a remarkable time to be an American, my friends.
And one of the reasons Clay I like history so
much is because I think there's a lot of context
and comfort. You know, we both have. It's funny too,
we both love history. Clearly different you're like a civil
war super freak. You know, you're all about civil war.
(04:39):
I tend to like like ancient Greek, Roman stuff, sixteenth
century Mediterranean stuff, you know, some specifics. But history gives
you a context for the world that we live in today,
and it's a reminder of a few things.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
One, there's really nothing new.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Every humanity has been through all these things that we
are going through now. And Two, man, it's nice to
be able to just sit down at a table with
an enormous plump turkey and more.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The problem is not having food on the.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Table like the Pilgrims, And I know Rush had an
amazing first Thanksgiving show that we've talked about before. The
problem is when to cut off all the cranberry and
the stuffing and everything else, which is kind of a
metaphor for where we are in America these days. Yes,
there are challenges play, but we are very blessed and
have a lot to be thankful for.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yes, And also to your point, history there is an
obsession with saying all the time, oh my god, this
is the worst, how can we ever get through this?
I always like to say we had an election in
the middle of the Civil War, it's kind of a
big deal. Eighteen sixty four, we had an election during
(05:47):
World War two, and if you go back. I don't
know if you've watched any of the ken Burns Revolutionary
War series at all yet, Buck, but I've been reading
the Atkinson trilogy on the Revolutionary War, and I know
for many people out there, they we kind of have
this idea of the founding Fathers as sort of these
(06:08):
gilded statues, and because of how the Revolutionary War turned out,
we have created this idea in our heads that it
wasn't incredibly bloody and contentious and violent. And because again
the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, they're they're sort of embossed
in this glow of of of sort of historical relevance
(06:35):
that makes it seem like they weren't contentious at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was nasty.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean, you go back and look at much of
our history and it's been way way way more contentious,
way more violent, way more awful than the present day
in which we live. And I think that's important because
nobody has historical knowledge at all anymore, and so everybody
is like a butterfly or a goldfish, and they think
that everything it's the first time that it's ever occurred.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
One of my favorite history factoids from the Mel Gibson
movie The Patriot, which we just I had my father
in law, yeah, cap'n Flatley, I had him staying with
us over the weekend, and we were just like, what
can we watch that we'll just enjoy watching we've seen before, Like,
I've reached this point now I can't even look for
new stuff because it takes so long and you end
(07:22):
up watching some some you know, communist nonsense on Netflix
for five minutes and realized that, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
The that the era of good TV is over.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But we turned on The Patriot and the fact that
the British were very upset with the with the colonists
or you know, with with the the early Americans for
shooting officers. That is real. That is a real thing
that British were like, how how dare you? And all
of our guys from like you know, areas of rural
(07:51):
Virginia and Tennessee were like, those officers look like good
targets to me. I mean, you know, different times, my friends,
different times. But that was considered ungentlemanly. That was a
real thing. And all of these wars that were fought
in our past were very nasty and ungentlemanly, and they
didn't have a lot of the things they have today
that can help save lives as we know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, I'm getting I'm getting a little bit. Look at
Thanksgiving the.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Show, We're gonna take a lot of your calls, a lot
of your stuff. Like we said, we got cash on
which will be phenomenal. I really want to talk to
him about the the situation of the FBI and didn't
really to sped a law enforcement helping out in these cities.
I still first of all, that Memphis is not getting
enough attention. We try to give it more attention here,
but that that is working, and that it is working
in DC, and that this idea of deploying more law
(08:38):
enforcement resources is somehow crazy as a means of bringing
down crime. Clay, the El Salvador miracle needs to be
talked about more in our country from basically the least
safe to the safest place per capita in the entire
western hemisphere of the globe.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, And how did they do it? Backing the cops
and locking up the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It does work. It does work when you do this,
and you know I'm willing to have. We can have
conversations about you know, about second chances and about mercy
for people who have been convicted, on the different things.
We can have that once we bring the homicide rate
down to all time lows in all of these cities
that have been plagued with you know, let's fix the problem,
(09:26):
and then we can have it. I didn't say open
the floodgates and let everybody out, but then we can
have more conversations about rehabilitation and what do we do.
And I think at that point we'd find that there
are a lot of people that you actually can't rehabilitate,
and that it's better for them and better for us
and better for society if they are institutionalized for a
long period of time, certainly the period of time that
they are most dangerous to the public. So I think
(09:46):
that these are all things that we'll certainly talk to
Cash about. But I also wish that there was substantially
more attention on this aspect of what Trump is doing
that is I think working and should get a whole
lot more attention. But we we spoke about this, Trump
pardoned the turkeys. We're just gonna have some fun with
us for a second. You already did the Trump Pritzker
(10:08):
line right yesterday, I play I played a bunch.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I mean again, the thing that I don't think most
people have contemplated is Trump makes everything so much more entertaining.
Whenever he's off the stage, things like the pardoning of
the turkeys are just gonna kind of vanish as entertaining things.
But this was happening yesterday during the program, and I said,
we gotta show cuts of of what was going on.
(10:33):
I think we can play the Pritzker line again because
it is such a funny one, as he explains why
he's not gonna talk about the fact that JB. Pritzker
is a fat slob in vintage Trump fashion, which is
very very funny.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, there's a there's Pretererizio is one way of describing this,
saying what you say you won't say. And there's another
term for it, which I can't remember, but it's a
it's a rhetorical trick, which Trump is is quite good at.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
And and then there's the there's the illegal orders brew haha.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know again, I was in the I was traveling
clay yesterday. I was in the air. That was why
I had to, uh, you know, that was why you
were solo. So if we if you already hit all
of that, But that seems like something that is not
going away, that seems like a component of well, certainly
the Trump administration's approach to this stuff is never to
back down. But Secretary of War heeg sat he he
(11:32):
does not let this stuff go lightly. Our friend Pete,
who I've known for many years, he is viewing this
with with seriousness what they have done.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He is not letting this go, no doubt. And let's
play that.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Let's play the Pritzker line, because I do think it's
a good way to start off the Thanksgiving Eve show,
and we should say we're incredibly thankful to all of
you and be safe out there. I traveled yesterday, you
traveled yesterday. There are people on the road all over
the country that are listening to us right now. And
by the way, if you need something to listen to
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(12:11):
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I think we got to do a Crockett like biopic
(12:54):
by the way, you know, talking about good TV shows
or like a Crockett series.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I got ad Oh, that's a good idea. I agree it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I do like your like your Undaunted Courage idea as well.
But there's some there's such a market for great American
historical uh entertainment, and I think that's clear. I have
not watched The ken Burns. I've read some reviews of
it of the Revolution. I may get to some of
it over the next few days because they're going to
(13:21):
be in food coma with the family and just watching
stuff I've heard. There's a little bit of Wokeness, which
I expect because it's Ken Burns. But I've heard it's
pretty well done.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Overall, so I DVR it, so I haven't watched it yet.
I don't know if people still DVR things. I still do. Uh,
so it's on my roster of things to watch. Buck
not gonna shock you. I'm gonna spend pretty much Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday watching football, so I will not watch anything else.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Probably if I.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Only watch one game with my you know what, Clay,
come back and give me the answer on the other side,
because someone's gonna love Some people are gonna love you,
and some people are gonna be angry at Clay. And
I love when they get kicked off at Clay. It's
so fun. The talkbacks are hilarious. If if I only
get to watch one football game with my brothers and
my dad, who are normal Americans who like football, which
one is it? Because I will I will mark that
(14:07):
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had to pick one, and so I of course was
not able to pick one because I picked one NFL
game which will be dominating much of Thursday, and one
college football game. So my NFL Pickbuck is Chiefs Cowboys,
(15:44):
which will be maybe the most watched game of the
entire weekend. You got Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, who
are the biggest television draw modern era in the last
four or five years, and you've got the Cowboys, who
are the biggest draw for the twenty first century. Essentially,
it's gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's gonna be a good game.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I might be am I going for the underdogs here,
which whom I assume would be the Cowboys or are
they not the underdogs?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I'm impressed that you know the Cowboys are the underdogs.
They are a three point underdog at home. Chiefs have
not had a traditional Chief year, but this is by
I think, by far, the best game in the NFL
of Thanksgiving weekend. And then the other one for college
football Texas A and M Texas I think is going
to be an absolute Donnybrook As. I like to say
(16:30):
Texas A and M is eleven to zero, undefeated, huge
rival game. This is college football at its best. Lots
of in state rival games, So these are the nasty
rivalries where you know, you really interact all the time,
whether it's Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina, Clemson, Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt.
Like I could run through Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech,
(16:54):
all of these different Ohio State, Michigan, but it's not
an end state game, all of these different games going
ahead to head, I think A and M Texas is
going to be an incredibly fantastic game. They haven't played
for a long time. Now they're back together because Texas
has joined the SEC. So I would actually pick two
games in Texas Chiefs Cowboys and A and M. The
(17:15):
agg He's going up against the Longhorns would be my
top draft picks NFL and college football. And I bet
a lot of you out there are going to be
watching these games. Buck, do you play? Do you and
your brothers like play a football game like Central Park?
I don't know, is this a thing at all? Oh
the Travis boys. Yeah, I love to discust on his face.
(17:36):
A huge percentage of our listeners will be playing or
have played Thanksgiving football games with friends and family. My
kids are already scouting out the right location for the
Travis Family Thanksgiving football game. And I'm just hoping I
don't tear an acl. I don't want to go down
with an injury. Look, it is Thanksgiving and we can
(17:57):
be thankful for so many things that are going on
right now now in the country, and one of the
things that's going on in the world is thanks to
President Trump, we've got peace setting forth across the entire country.
If we get peace in Ukraine, that would be fantastic.
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(19:12):
know what we're thankful for this year?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
All of you. That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We have the best radio audience in the country, hands down.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Sending a big, warm and happy Thanksgiving from the Clay
and Buck Show. So it is the day before Thanksgiving.
We're gonna have a lot of Thanksgiving talk on the
show today. We're hanging out with all of you. A
lot of you are traveling, so godspeed on that and
stay safe, enjoy yourselves. Hopefully you've got some Clay and
Buck Podcast Network episodes to listen to if you're not
(19:41):
listening to this show live. And we also want to
bring you some of the news of the day. Like
we said, we'll have cash buttellum render divine with us later.
So two great guests talk to them about everything going on.
In the meantime. This story that just came down the Judge.
Judge has dismissed the Georgia election interference case against Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
This would now be the.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Third, the third and last pending criminal prosecution against Trump
for the twenty twenty election stuff. Clay, I just think
we should take a moment here. We said this would happen.
This was the second I would argue the second weakest.
(20:24):
They were all weak, and they were all absurd. But
if you were ranking them in terms of absurdity, the
New York criminal case against Trump, I think was just
It is preposterous, to the point where no lawyer in
good faith can really make the case that what they
were trying to do to Trump was valid.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And the charging thirty four counts of the same thing
because you wrote it on different pieces of paper. I mean,
no one could think that that was in good faith.
It wasn't in good faith. It was a get Trump operation.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
We all know that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
But beyond that, this one in Georgia, a Rico case, Yeah,
brought by a clearly, deeply incompetent Fanny Willis, and also
compromised Fanny Willis in this process.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
If you had.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Told people at like a CNN panel a few years ago,
not only is Donald Trump going to defeat all four
of the criminal cases against him, effectively, I know the
New York one, but you know nothing except that that
will eventually be overturned on appeal too. He will end
up being president, and this will all be something that
the Trump voters can laugh about, although it was very
(21:34):
serious in a sense too, But we can laugh in
the face of the crying libs on this. I think
they would have thought we were insane. But we knew
all along that this is where this was heading for Georgia.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
We said, and we're going to be proven correct, that
all of these cases were going to collapse, And now
three of the four have. Atlanta's over, South Florida is over,
Washington d C. Is over, And to your point, eventually
the convictions in the ridiculous New York state charges are
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going to be tossed too, And so we're going to
end up with Trump going four for four, sweeping the board,
and not only going four for four, being elected president,
winning the popular vote. And I know we're still in
the immediate aftermath of the twenty twenty four election, and
we talked about how we're students of history, and how
if you're a student of history, you're aware that sometimes
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it can take fifty or even one hundred years for
full significance of actions to be understood in the larger
context in which they occurred. I think a very positive
result of this is going to be that the American
public said going after political opponents by trying to put
them in prison, in prison for the rest of their lives,
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and trying to bankrupt them is not going to work
in the political arena. And what we talked about, and
I think we did a good job of this, is
this was one of those rare circumstances where there's both
the political and the legal occurring simultaneously, and a lot
of criminal defense lawyers out there constantly cringed over the
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decisions that Trump made in talking constantly about these cases,
because any of you that have ever been involved in
the criminal justice system, one of the first things your
lawyer will say if you get charged with a crime
typically is shut your mouth, don't say anything, don't give
any additional evidence to the prosecution, stay quiet, and let
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me handle this. Trump and I think it was brilliant.
I think it was strategically, without precedent, frankly decided I
am going to handle this, and I am going to
treat this basically as a political campaign, even though we're
in the midst of these legal proceedings where remember, they're
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trying to imprison him for the rest of his life,
they're trying to bankrupt him, and they're trying to ensure
that his life is effectively over. And he won on
a level that I think even Democrats are having trouble with.
And I think historically, Buck, it's going to become even
more remarkable in the decades ahead as the stories of
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this election are told.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And I think the twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Election, your grandkids, everybody out there listening right now, if
you don't have grandkids yet, they will be watching documentaries
on this election. They'll be reading books to the extent
that anybody still reads books in seventy or eighty years
from now, and they'll be peppering you with questions like Grandma,
grandpa for us, Buck, We'll have little kids that will
(24:43):
be hopefully grandkids one day asking us, wait a minute,
tell me about what happened in twenty twenty four. We're
studying this now in school. Did all of this really happen?
The Trump era is going to be so ripe, so
incredible for the historical rect in the years to come.
And we're just now, I think, recognizing the impact of
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all of this as these law fair cases collapse, and
again I think New York City on appeal, they're going
to toss that. And all the people who went on
MSNBC and said they've got him. Now remember all these
guys and gals who made a living. Oh, this is
one of the greatest rico cases I've ever seen. I
don't see how Trump, remember the mugshot, I don't see
how Trump handles this, And instead he has emerged victorious
(25:28):
on a level, frankly, that I'm not sure we've ever
seen in the context of criminal justice in this country.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, I think you also can see that the weaponization
of the Department of Justice by a Democrat administration against
a Republican. If you had told me just take Trump
out of this many years ago, if you had said,
at some point Democrats are going to bring a bunch
of criminal cases against their chief political rival, I think
(25:53):
the assumption would be that would be enough to at
a minimum prevent him from winning the election, which I
think was what Crafts were counting on all along. Oh
my gosh, he's been charged. We can't have I would
have even gone as far as to think, well, given
how federal criminal cases usually go, probably going to have
a former president who's in prison, and the fact that
he beat all of this and one is still it's
(26:18):
the most amazing. From twenty twenty to where we are
right now is the most incredible political comeback any of
us have ever seen, and I think we'll ever see.
I don't think anything will ever rival this in American
politics in our lifetime. And to what you said, there will.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Be almost a disbelief in the future.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
There will be future generations that will ask about how
all this went down, and we'll be able to tell
our our kids, our grandkids, Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'll be people say I was at the gym and
Trump got hit with a bullet and I saw him
go down, and I thought, oh my gosh, we've lost
our president. Like what is And then he stood up
and pumped his fist in the air and said fight.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah. I mean, Reagan was a great president. Reagan got shot.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I mean, but Raig didn't have that moment, right, I mean,
you just you couldn't make this stuff up, you couldn't
script this.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I think you're one hundred percent correct, and it's going
to become, I think, even more iconic in the decades ahead,
because the politics of the president will be stripped away
and there will be lots of people out there that
didn't have a particular perspective on the Trump presidency and
the Trump era that are going to be studying this.
(27:29):
And again that's why I think the fight fight fight
moment is going. And people got mad at me, as
often happens, but I think it's a Gettysburg Address style moment. Remember,
in the immediate aftermath of the Gettysburg Address of Abraham
Lincoln got savaged for what he said there. And it
was only in the aftermath, as historical record began to
(27:52):
be set that people went back and said, this is
one of the most stupendously perfect ways to personify what
we had gone through in the Civil War. But you
go back and look at what was said. I think
Edward Everett, if I'm not mistaken, was the orator there
who spoke for three hours and gave a garlanded address
that everybody said was incredible. And now most people I
(28:15):
said his name, I think I got it right. Most
people have no idea he ever existed, and the Gettysburg
address is memorized by school kids across the country. I
think the Trump Fight Fight Fight moment, particularly on video,
as it resonates and echoes and reverberates throughout American history,
will become even more badass now as the Trump era
and the individual political fights of that era begin to fade.
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In the same way that we started off buck by saying,
people have a difficulty now assuming that George Washington was
ever flesh and blood, or Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin,
because they have become such iconic founding heroes of mythology
that we forget to a large extent, these were just
guys who were trying to make the best decisions in
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their life, sometimes making the wrong decisions i e. Jefferson
and Sally Hemmings. They were imperfect, like all of us.
Trump has many imperfections, but that moment was as perfect
of a response as we've ever seen from an American president.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
And I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think it will have a Gettysburg Addressean like impact
one hundred years from now as the baddest ass thing
that any American president has ever done in response to
actual violence. If you again we said it immediately in
the aftermath. If you had scripted that in a Hollywood movie,
they would have said, no, this is to people will
(29:39):
groan and nobody would ever do that. That's right, And
I think I would have said, nobody would ever actually
do that, guys, that's absurd. No, Trump did it, and
Trump beat for criminal prosecutions and also never never despaired
during any of this.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It was was basically going in to get his mugshot
done with a smile on his face.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
These people really.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
And this is what you said from that that garbage
Jake Tapper book, Biden really wanted him to be in
a prison cell for them.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh yeah, life.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
They really thought they were going to pull this thing off.
So I understand we've talked about this for many years,
and this has been something that we've discussed a lot
on the show. But it's really over now today, Marks
it's really over. It's done, you know, And I think
that's a milestone. And I think that President Trump deserves
just a tremendous amount of credit. I would even say gratitude.
(30:33):
We're being thankful for things these days, right, that he
was willing to put himself.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Through all of this.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The guy has got billions and can just hang out
and play golf the rest of his days. He went
through this again because he thought the job was unfinished,
and now he's trying to finish the job. Still a
lot to do, still a lot of challenges ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
But very few people would look at four.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Criminal prosecutions, all of that coming up them and just
keep smiling. And somehow he did, which is it feels
almost superhuman. It's pretty crazy what this guy was able
to pull off. And it's finally today we mark the
defeat of law fair against Donald J.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Trump. It's remarkable.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Amen, and Thanksgiving will open up phone lines by the way,
eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
We're going to have cash Ptel at one, Miranda Divine
at two. We know many of you are on the
road out there, be safe, and we are thankful for
all of you for having spent another awesome year. What
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Speaker 1 (32:47):
I am told.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We have a bevy of talkbacks on a variety of
different subjects. Buck, I have been calling out all the
terrorists to recline their seats and render the rest of
us unable to move on coach class flying. You got
into this with me or were led into this on
Monday Tuesday, I continued it. I think a lot of
(33:08):
people out there are reacting. By the way, if you
have health related conditions that require you to recline your seat,
that's very different than just being someone who is an
airplane terrorist, and so that is an important aspect there.
You know, if you've got like a hold on, do
we have it?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Here we go?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Aa Hey, Clay Buck, this is Lance from Hopscot, Indiana,
and my wife and I are listening to the show
while we are on our honeymoon in Mexico. Keep up
the great work.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I would suggest maybe there's other things you could be
doing on your honeymoon that are a little bit more fun.
But I do appreciate you listening to us on on
the honeymoon down in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Clay Clay is good with the helpful reminders. Everybody, Let's
go Buck, this one's going to really make you nervous.
Let's go ahead and jump to EE or no ff
Pam and Anchorage. Pam does really good talkbacks. I still
need to go visit Alaska. I've never been.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
But Pam says that she wishes you'd been on yesterday
because you would have been you would have been apoplectic.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Buck Ee or f F whichever one Pam is.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Hey, I have never missed Buck more than I am
missing him during this segment because the look on his
face while you're talking about orgies in the bathroom and
all the text messaging, it would be priceless. His level
of discomfort right now trying to get him to chime in,
and all I'm thinking is would he be asking you,
(34:36):
is this segment Pope approved?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It was probably not Pope approved. Buck. I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The I'm going for one day and you're talking about
orgies and bathrooms one day.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm going for one.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
When I was in college, they were having all these
gay guys having orgs in the bathroom and they it
was a big deal at George Washington univer and I
was just saying, this doesn't happen with women. I was
talking about the difference between men and women like you've
never heard. Hey, a bunch of women got together and
they had an orgy at a random public bathroom. These
guys do it all the time, and believe it or not,
(35:12):
it was a big discussion about the fact that men
and women are very different and that our goals in
life are very different.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And Pam's probably right. You would have been you would
have been blushing. Your halo is gone. I'm just saying,
there's no not anymore. It's not going to be happy. No,
this is funny. This references the Pope. I believe we
have a talk back about the Pope. Yes, Mike wants
to know if I talked about immigration policy with the Pope.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
The answer is no. The answer is no, Mike. But
here is c C in case you were one of
the Pope and I didn't hang out for like eight
hours and he was just like, Clay, tell me what
you think about the status of the world CEEC.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
We've heard a lot of criticism from the Pope on
Trump's illegal immigration policies. I was wondering in your discussion
with the Pope, did he describe his immigration policies for
the world city called Vatican City. If I'm not mistaken,
only immigrants with papal approval are allowed to enter in.
Where's his compassion for the illegal immigrants?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That is a funny take.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
No, we invited him to throw out the first pitch
at a baseball game.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It was not a political take.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But yes, the Pope does have the Vatican City which
is walled, which is very secure, and so do most
of the super rich people out there who are open
to illegal immigration. They all live inside of gates and
they all have security around them, but they want you
not to have it. It's amazing how often that happens.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Funny how that gets continuously found out to be the case.
All right, we are going to have Cash Pittael with us.
The FBI director coming up next. Send us right now
on vip email on talkbacks questions you want us to
consider for the FBI director while we've got him here
on the air. That'll be next, So stick around.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome everybody to the pre Thanksgiving edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I'm here in NYC, soon
to be known as Mom Donneville. There are not, in
fact breadlines yet on the streets. They're they're not singing
the Soviet national anthem anywhere, so that's a good thing.
(00:26):
We have my friend Clay Travis. Of course, he's coming
to you from the Panhandle also known as God's Country
on the Gulf of America. Lovely, lovely place, and we
have a much, we have a much to discuss with
you today. We have Miranda Devine gonna be joining us.
It's always got great things to talk about. We've got
(00:47):
cash Betel, director of the FBI, and we've been trying
to talk to Cashier for a while. We appreciate that
he will be on the air with us. More things
to talk to him about that we're even going to
have time for as you can. We'll get to as
much of it with him as we can. He is
very busy trying to both round up all the bad
guys out there with the FBI, hard at work and
(01:10):
keep the streets safe and reform that institution which was
desperately in need of just that, the FBI. So we
have a lot going on there. We've got some other
odds and enza Trump pardoning turkeys, which we are looking
forward to that discussion. Afton Baine, I cannot actually believe
(01:31):
that that is someone's and my name is Buck Sexton,
and I think that's I think Afton Baine is a
funky name. We'll talk about what this looks like in
Clay's because we have to this. This election is happening
in days. They are hoping everyone that you will be
if you live in this congressional district.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Which I do, which which my congressman.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, this Cliss would be Clay's congressman, which would be
pretty funny if he's in this wonderful red state of
Tennessee with among the most lunatic members of Congress out there.
She's AOC level crazy and maybe worse from what I said, I.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Think I think she's crazier than AOC.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And if you consider that she represents the state of
Tennessee and AOC represents New York, she is outrageously out
of line with the average Tennessee, and whereas the average
New Yorker you could at least argue, might support much
of what AOC would argue for. Also Buck big news
the Georgia decision with the Trump case, as we told you,
(02:37):
that is the Fanny Willis case that we told you
for garbage was years has officially been dismissed. And we'll
get into that more importantly. Maybe you're, as you said,
in New York City, and you have commandeered the staff.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
To be holding your baby son right now.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So we're where it's like the pilots of the plane
are now distracted by a cute baby boy. I looked
just down at my phone and Producer Alli I didn't
even know if she's working today.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Producer Alli is a jack of all trades. She handled
so many of the things as as ep here. But
with producers Greg and Mike, they are doing impromptu babysitting.
My wonderful wife Carrie got caught in traffic and she's
got You know.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
This is true for a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Even when you move to Florida, Clay, this is I
know so many New Yorkers we still keep our various
like long term relationships with doctors with your you know,
people with their barber, with their hair, all these things.
So she was trying to stack all these appointments this morning,
and it is a little late getting getting in here
to the studio. But it's no problem, I told her,
(03:44):
because Baby Speed is a show stopper and he's hanging
out with the staff in there. He's ready for his
own microphone. I'm telling you, he's having a great time.
So very much appreciate what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
We'll put that.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
We'll put up a Baby Speed with the team photo
on Clay and Buck. Great Thanksgiving being fair, you know, great,
great family fun going on, and we'll also have some
discussions about Thanksgiving and how thankful we are for all
of you, and how I think this country should be
thankful for the amazing position we find ourselves in, despite
the challenges, despite the things that aren't exactly as we
(04:16):
want them to be, and there are many of them.
It is a remarkable time to be an American, my friends.
And one of the reasons Clay I like history so
much is because I think there's a lot of context
and comfort. You know, we both have. It's funny too,
we both love history. Clearly different you're like a civil
war super freak. You know, you're all about civil war.
(04:39):
I tend to like like ancient Greek, Roman stuff, sixteenth
century Mediterranean stuff, you know, some specifics. But history gives
you a context for the world that we live in today,
and it's a reminder of a few things.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
One, there's really nothing new.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Every humanity has been through all these things that we
are going through now. And Two, man, it's nice to
be able to just sit down at a table with
an enormous plump turkey and more.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The problem is not having food on the.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Table like the Pilgrims, And I know Rush had an
amazing first Thanksgiving show that we've talked about before. The
problem is when to cut off all the cranberry and
the stuffing and everything else, which is kind of a
metaphor for where we are in America these days. Yes,
there are challenges play, but we are very blessed and
have a lot to be thankful for.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yes, And also to your point, history there is an
obsession with saying all the time, oh my god, this
is the worst, how can we ever get through this?
I always like to say we had an election in
the middle of the Civil War, it's kind of a
big deal. Eighteen sixty four, we had an election during
(05:47):
World War two, and if you go back. I don't
know if you've watched any of the ken Burns Revolutionary
War series at all yet, Buck, but I've been reading
the Atkinson trilogy on the Revolutionary War, and I know
for many people out there, they we kind of have
this idea of the founding Fathers as sort of these
(06:08):
gilded statues, and because of how the Revolutionary War turned out,
we have created this idea in our heads that it
wasn't incredibly bloody and contentious and violent. And because again
the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, they're they're sort of embossed
in this glow of of of sort of historical relevance
(06:35):
that makes it seem like they weren't contentious at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was nasty.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean, you go back and look at much of
our history and it's been way way way more contentious,
way more violent, way more awful than the present day
in which we live. And I think that's important because
nobody has historical knowledge at all anymore, and so everybody
is like a butterfly or a goldfish, and they think
that everything it's the first time that it's ever occurred.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
One of my favorite history factoids from the Mel Gibson
movie The Patriot, which we just I had my father
in law, yeah, cap'n Flatley, I had him staying with
us over the weekend, and we were just like, what
can we watch that we'll just enjoy watching we've seen before, Like,
I've reached this point now I can't even look for
new stuff because it takes so long and you end
(07:22):
up watching some some you know, communist nonsense on Netflix
for five minutes and realized that, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
The that the era of good TV is over.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But we turned on The Patriot and the fact that
the British were very upset with the with the colonists
or you know, with with the the early Americans for
shooting officers. That is real. That is a real thing
that British were like, how how dare you? And all
of our guys from like you know, areas of rural
(07:51):
Virginia and Tennessee were like, those officers look like good
targets to me. I mean, you know, different times, my friends,
different times. But that was considered ungentlemanly. That was a
real thing. And all of these wars that were fought
in our past were very nasty and ungentlemanly, and they
didn't have a lot of the things they have today
that can help save lives as we know.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, I'm getting I'm getting a little bit. Look at
Thanksgiving the.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Show, We're gonna take a lot of your calls, a lot
of your stuff. Like we said, we got cash on
which will be phenomenal. I really want to talk to
him about the the situation of the FBI and didn't
really to sped a law enforcement helping out in these cities.
I still first of all, that Memphis is not getting
enough attention. We try to give it more attention here,
but that that is working, and that it is working
in DC, and that this idea of deploying more law
(08:38):
enforcement resources is somehow crazy as a means of bringing
down crime. Clay, the El Salvador miracle needs to be
talked about more in our country from basically the least
safe to the safest place per capita in the entire
western hemisphere of the globe.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, And how did they do it? Backing the cops
and locking up the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It does work. It does work when you do this,
and you know I'm willing to have. We can have
conversations about you know, about second chances and about mercy
for people who have been convicted, on the different things.
We can have that once we bring the homicide rate
down to all time lows in all of these cities
that have been plagued with you know, let's fix the problem,
(09:26):
and then we can have it. I didn't say open
the floodgates and let everybody out, but then we can
have more conversations about rehabilitation and what do we do.
And I think at that point we'd find that there
are a lot of people that you actually can't rehabilitate,
and that it's better for them and better for us
and better for society if they are institutionalized for a
long period of time, certainly the period of time that
they are most dangerous to the public. So I think
(09:46):
that these are all things that we'll certainly talk to
Cash about. But I also wish that there was substantially
more attention on this aspect of what Trump is doing
that is I think working and should get a whole
lot more attention. But we we spoke about this, Trump
pardoned the turkeys. We're just gonna have some fun with
us for a second. You already did the Trump Pritzker
(10:08):
line right yesterday, I play I played a bunch.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I mean again, the thing that I don't think most
people have contemplated is Trump makes everything so much more entertaining.
Whenever he's off the stage, things like the pardoning of
the turkeys are just gonna kind of vanish as entertaining things.
But this was happening yesterday during the program, and I said,
we gotta show cuts of of what was going on.
(10:33):
I think we can play the Pritzker line again because
it is such a funny one, as he explains why
he's not gonna talk about the fact that JB. Pritzker
is a fat slob in vintage Trump fashion, which is
very very funny.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, there's a there's Pretererizio is one way of describing this,
saying what you say you won't say. And there's another
term for it, which I can't remember, but it's a
it's a rhetorical trick, which Trump is is quite good at.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
And and then there's the there's the illegal orders brew haha.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know again, I was in the I was traveling
clay yesterday. I was in the air. That was why
I had to, uh, you know, that was why you
were solo. So if we if you already hit all
of that, But that seems like something that is not
going away, that seems like a component of well, certainly
the Trump administration's approach to this stuff is never to
back down. But Secretary of War heeg sat he he
(11:32):
does not let this stuff go lightly. Our friend Pete,
who I've known for many years, he is viewing this
with with seriousness what they have done.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He is not letting this go, no doubt. And let's
play that.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Let's play the Pritzker line, because I do think it's
a good way to start off the Thanksgiving Eve show,
and we should say we're incredibly thankful to all of
you and be safe out there. I traveled yesterday, you
traveled yesterday. There are people on the road all over
the country that are listening to us right now. And
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(12:11):
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or like a Crockett series.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I got ad Oh, that's a good idea. I agree it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I do like your like your Undaunted Courage idea as well.
But there's some there's such a market for great American
historical uh entertainment, and I think that's clear. I have
not watched The ken Burns. I've read some reviews of
it of the Revolution. I may get to some of
it over the next few days because they're going to
(13:21):
be in food coma with the family and just watching
stuff I've heard. There's a little bit of Wokeness, which
I expect because it's Ken Burns. But I've heard it's
pretty well done.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Overall, so I DVR it, so I haven't watched it yet.
I don't know if people still DVR things. I still do. Uh,
so it's on my roster of things to watch. Buck
not gonna shock you. I'm gonna spend pretty much Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday watching football, so I will not watch anything else.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Probably if I.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Only watch one game with my you know what, Clay,
come back and give me the answer on the other side,
because someone's gonna love Some people are gonna love you,
and some people are gonna be angry at Clay. And
I love when they get kicked off at Clay. It's
so fun. The talkbacks are hilarious. If if I only
get to watch one football game with my brothers and
my dad, who are normal Americans who like football, which
one is it? Because I will I will mark that
(14:07):
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know you're gonna watch them all. If I only get one,
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as we went to break Buck's dad and brothers will
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be sitting around watching football, and he said if he
had to pick one, and so I of course was
not able to pick one because I picked one NFL
game which will be dominating much of Thursday, and one
college football game. So my NFL Pickbuck is Chiefs Cowboys,
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which will be maybe the most watched game of the
entire weekend. You got Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, who
are the biggest television draw modern era in the last
four or five years, and you've got the Cowboys, who
are the biggest draw for the twenty first century. Essentially,
it's gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's gonna be a good game.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I might be am I going for the underdogs here,
which whom I assume would be the Cowboys or are
they not the underdogs?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I'm impressed that you know the Cowboys are the underdogs.
They are a three point underdog at home. Chiefs have
not had a traditional Chief year, but this is by
I think, by far, the best game in the NFL
of Thanksgiving weekend. And then the other one for college
football Texas A and M Texas I think is going
to be an absolute Donnybrook As. I like to say
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Texas A and M is eleven to zero, undefeated, huge
rival game. This is college football at its best. Lots
of in state rival games, So these are the nasty
rivalries where you know, you really interact all the time,
whether it's Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina, Clemson, Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt.
Like I could run through Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech,
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all of these different Ohio State, Michigan, but it's not
an end state game, all of these different games going
ahead to head, I think A and M Texas is
going to be an incredibly fantastic game. They haven't played
for a long time. Now they're back together because Texas
has joined the SEC. So I would actually pick two
games in Texas Chiefs Cowboys and A and M. The
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agg He's going up against the Longhorns would be my
top draft picks NFL and college football. And I bet
a lot of you out there are going to be
watching these games. Buck, do you play? Do you and
your brothers like play a football game like Central Park?
I don't know, is this a thing at all? Oh
the Travis boys. Yeah, I love to discust on his face.
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A huge percentage of our listeners will be playing or
have played Thanksgiving football games with friends and family. My
kids are already scouting out the right location for the
Travis Family Thanksgiving football game. And I'm just hoping I
don't tear an acl. I don't want to go down
with an injury. Look, it is Thanksgiving and we can
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be thankful for so many things that are going on
right now now in the country, and one of the
things that's going on in the world is thanks to
President Trump, we've got peace setting forth across the entire country.
If we get peace in Ukraine, that would be fantastic.
But thankfully we have got peace. The Christians and the
Jews have helped to bring peace in Gaza, at least
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know what we're thankful for this year?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
All of you. That's right.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We have the best radio audience in the country, hands down.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Sending a big, warm and happy Thanksgiving from the Clay
and Buck Show. So it is the day before Thanksgiving.
We're gonna have a lot of Thanksgiving talk on the
show today. We're hanging out with all of you. A
lot of you are traveling, so godspeed on that and
stay safe, enjoy yourselves. Hopefully you've got some Clay and
Buck Podcast Network episodes to listen to if you're not
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listening to this show live. And we also want to
bring you some of the news of the day. Like
we said, we'll have cash buttellum render divine with us later.
So two great guests talk to them about everything going on.
In the meantime. This story that just came down the Judge.
Judge has dismissed the Georgia election interference case against Trump.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
This would now be the.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Third, the third and last pending criminal prosecution against Trump
for the twenty twenty election stuff. Clay, I just think
we should take a moment here. We said this would happen.
This was the second I would argue the second weakest.
(20:24):
They were all weak, and they were all absurd. But
if you were ranking them in terms of absurdity, the
New York criminal case against Trump, I think was just
It is preposterous, to the point where no lawyer in
good faith can really make the case that what they
were trying to do to Trump was valid.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And the charging thirty four counts of the same thing
because you wrote it on different pieces of paper. I mean,
no one could think that that was in good faith.
It wasn't in good faith. It was a get Trump operation.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
We all know that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
But beyond that, this one in Georgia, a Rico case, Yeah,
brought by a clearly, deeply incompetent Fanny Willis, and also
compromised Fanny Willis in this process.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
If you had.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Told people at like a CNN panel a few years ago,
not only is Donald Trump going to defeat all four
of the criminal cases against him, effectively, I know the
New York one, but you know nothing except that that
will eventually be overturned on appeal too. He will end
up being president, and this will all be something that
the Trump voters can laugh about, although it was very
(21:34):
serious in a sense too, But we can laugh in
the face of the crying libs on this. I think
they would have thought we were insane. But we knew
all along that this is where this was heading for Georgia.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
We said, and we're going to be proven correct, that
all of these cases were going to collapse, And now
three of the four have. Atlanta's over, South Florida is over,
Washington d C. Is over, And to your point, eventually
the convictions in the ridiculous New York state charges are
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going to be tossed too, And so we're going to
end up with Trump going four for four, sweeping the board,
and not only going four for four, being elected president,
winning the popular vote. And I know we're still in
the immediate aftermath of the twenty twenty four election, and
we talked about how we're students of history, and how
if you're a student of history, you're aware that sometimes
(22:27):
it can take fifty or even one hundred years for
full significance of actions to be understood in the larger
context in which they occurred. I think a very positive
result of this is going to be that the American
public said going after political opponents by trying to put
them in prison, in prison for the rest of their lives,
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and trying to bankrupt them is not going to work
in the political arena. And what we talked about, and
I think we did a good job of this, is
this was one of those rare circumstances where there's both
the political and the legal occurring simultaneously, and a lot
of criminal defense lawyers out there constantly cringed over the
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decisions that Trump made in talking constantly about these cases,
because any of you that have ever been involved in
the criminal justice system, one of the first things your
lawyer will say if you get charged with a crime
typically is shut your mouth, don't say anything, don't give
any additional evidence to the prosecution, stay quiet, and let
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me handle this. Trump and I think it was brilliant.
I think it was strategically, without precedent, frankly decided I
am going to handle this, and I am going to
treat this basically as a political campaign, even though we're
in the midst of these legal proceedings where remember, they're
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trying to imprison him for the rest of his life,
they're trying to bankrupt him, and they're trying to ensure
that his life is effectively over. And he won on
a level that I think even Democrats are having trouble with.
And I think historically, Buck, it's going to become even
more remarkable in the decades ahead as the stories of
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this election are told.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And I think the twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Election, your grandkids, everybody out there listening right now, if
you don't have grandkids yet, they will be watching documentaries
on this election. They'll be reading books to the extent
that anybody still reads books in seventy or eighty years
from now, and they'll be peppering you with questions like Grandma,
grandpa for us, Buck, We'll have little kids that will
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be hopefully grandkids one day asking us, wait a minute,
tell me about what happened in twenty twenty four. We're
studying this now in school. Did all of this really happen?
The Trump era is going to be so ripe, so
incredible for the historical rect in the years to come.
And we're just now, I think, recognizing the impact of
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all of this as these law fair cases collapse, and
again I think New York City on appeal, they're going
to toss that. And all the people who went on
MSNBC and said they've got him. Now remember all these
guys and gals who made a living. Oh, this is
one of the greatest rico cases I've ever seen. I
don't see how Trump, remember the mugshot, I don't see
how Trump handles this, And instead he has emerged victorious
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on a level, frankly, that I'm not sure we've ever
seen in the context of criminal justice in this country.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, I think you also can see that the weaponization
of the Department of Justice by a Democrat administration against
a Republican. If you had told me just take Trump
out of this many years ago, if you had said,
at some point Democrats are going to bring a bunch
of criminal cases against their chief political rival, I think
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the assumption would be that would be enough to at
a minimum prevent him from winning the election, which I
think was what Crafts were counting on all along. Oh
my gosh, he's been charged. We can't have I would
have even gone as far as to think, well, given
how federal criminal cases usually go, probably going to have
a former president who's in prison, and the fact that
he beat all of this and one is still it's
(26:18):
the most amazing. From twenty twenty to where we are
right now is the most incredible political comeback any of
us have ever seen, and I think we'll ever see.
I don't think anything will ever rival this in American
politics in our lifetime. And to what you said, there will.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Be almost a disbelief in the future.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
There will be future generations that will ask about how
all this went down, and we'll be able to tell
our our kids, our grandkids, Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I'll be people say I was at the gym and
Trump got hit with a bullet and I saw him
go down, and I thought, oh my gosh, we've lost
our president. Like what is And then he stood up
and pumped his fist in the air and said fight.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah. I mean, Reagan was a great president. Reagan got shot.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I mean, but Raig didn't have that moment, right, I mean,
you just you couldn't make this stuff up, you couldn't
script this.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I think you're one hundred percent correct, and it's going
to become, I think, even more iconic in the decades ahead,
because the politics of the president will be stripped away
and there will be lots of people out there that
didn't have a particular perspective on the Trump presidency and
the Trump era that are going to be studying this.
(27:29):
And again that's why I think the fight fight fight
moment is going. And people got mad at me, as
often happens, but I think it's a Gettysburg Address style moment. Remember,
in the immediate aftermath of the Gettysburg Address of Abraham
Lincoln got savaged for what he said there. And it
was only in the aftermath, as historical record began to
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be set that people went back and said, this is
one of the most stupendously perfect ways to personify what
we had gone through in the Civil War. But you
go back and look at what was said. I think
Edward Everett, if I'm not mistaken, was the orator there
who spoke for three hours and gave a garlanded address
that everybody said was incredible. And now most people I
(28:15):
said his name, I think I got it right. Most
people have no idea he ever existed, and the Gettysburg
address is memorized by school kids across the country. I
think the Trump Fight Fight Fight moment, particularly on video,
as it resonates and echoes and reverberates throughout American history,
will become even more badass now as the Trump era
and the individual political fights of that era begin to fade.
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In the same way that we started off buck by saying,
people have a difficulty now assuming that George Washington was
ever flesh and blood, or Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin,
because they have become such iconic founding heroes of mythology
that we forget to a large extent, these were just
guys who were trying to make the best decisions in
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their life, sometimes making the wrong decisions i e. Jefferson
and Sally Hemmings. They were imperfect, like all of us.
Trump has many imperfections, but that moment was as perfect
of a response as we've ever seen from an American president.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
And I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think it will have a Gettysburg Addressean like impact
one hundred years from now as the baddest ass thing
that any American president has ever done in response to
actual violence. If you again we said it immediately in
the aftermath. If you had scripted that in a Hollywood movie,
they would have said, no, this is to people will
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groan and nobody would ever do that. That's right, And
I think I would have said, nobody would ever actually
do that, guys, that's absurd. No, Trump did it, and
Trump beat for criminal prosecutions and also never never despaired
during any of this.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It was was basically going in to get his mugshot
done with a smile on his face.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
These people really.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
And this is what you said from that that garbage
Jake Tapper book, Biden really wanted him to be in
a prison cell for them.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh yeah, life.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
They really thought they were going to pull this thing off.
So I understand we've talked about this for many years,
and this has been something that we've discussed a lot
on the show. But it's really over now today, Marks
it's really over. It's done, you know, And I think
that's a milestone. And I think that President Trump deserves
just a tremendous amount of credit. I would even say gratitude.
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We're being thankful for things these days, right, that he
was willing to put himself.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Through all of this.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
The guy has got billions and can just hang out
and play golf the rest of his days. He went
through this again because he thought the job was unfinished,
and now he's trying to finish the job. Still a
lot to do, still a lot of challenges ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
But very few people would look at four.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Criminal prosecutions, all of that coming up them and just
keep smiling. And somehow he did, which is it feels
almost superhuman. It's pretty crazy what this guy was able
to pull off. And it's finally today we mark the
defeat of law fair against Donald J.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Trump. It's remarkable.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Amen, and Thanksgiving will open up phone lines by the way,
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at two. We know many of you are on the
road out there, be safe, and we are thankful for
all of you for having spent another awesome year. What
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Speaker 1 (32:47):
I am told.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We have a bevy of talkbacks on a variety of
different subjects. Buck, I have been calling out all the
terrorists to recline their seats and render the rest of
us unable to move on coach class flying. You got
into this with me or were led into this on
Monday Tuesday, I continued it. I think a lot of
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people out there are reacting. By the way, if you
have health related conditions that require you to recline your seat,
that's very different than just being someone who is an
airplane terrorist, and so that is an important aspect there.
You know, if you've got like a hold on, do
we have it?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Here we go?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Aa Hey, Clay Buck, this is Lance from Hopscot, Indiana,
and my wife and I are listening to the show
while we are on our honeymoon in Mexico. Keep up
the great work.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I would suggest maybe there's other things you could be
doing on your honeymoon that are a little bit more fun.
But I do appreciate you listening to us on on
the honeymoon down in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Clay Clay is good with the helpful reminders. Everybody, Let's
go Buck, this one's going to really make you nervous.
Let's go ahead and jump to EE or no ff
Pam and Anchorage. Pam does really good talkbacks. I still
need to go visit Alaska. I've never been.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
But Pam says that she wishes you'd been on yesterday
because you would have been you would have been apoplectic.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Buck Ee or f F whichever one Pam is.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Hey, I have never missed Buck more than I am
missing him during this segment because the look on his
face while you're talking about orgies in the bathroom and
all the text messaging, it would be priceless. His level
of discomfort right now trying to get him to chime in,
and all I'm thinking is would he be asking you,
(34:36):
is this segment Pope approved?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
It was probably not Pope approved. Buck. I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
The I'm going for one day and you're talking about
orgies and bathrooms one day.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm going for one.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
When I was in college, they were having all these
gay guys having orgs in the bathroom and they it
was a big deal at George Washington univer and I
was just saying, this doesn't happen with women. I was
talking about the difference between men and women like you've
never heard. Hey, a bunch of women got together and
they had an orgy at a random public bathroom. These
guys do it all the time, and believe it or not,
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it was a big discussion about the fact that men
and women are very different and that our goals in
life are very different.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And Pam's probably right. You would have been you would
have been blushing. Your halo is gone. I'm just saying,
there's no not anymore. It's not going to be happy. No,
this is funny. This references the Pope. I believe we
have a talk back about the Pope. Yes, Mike wants
to know if I talked about immigration policy with the Pope.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
The answer is no. The answer is no, Mike. But
here is c C in case you were one of
the Pope and I didn't hang out for like eight
hours and he was just like, Clay, tell me what
you think about the status of the world CEEC.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
We've heard a lot of criticism from the Pope on
Trump's illegal immigration policies. I was wondering in your discussion
with the Pope, did he describe his immigration policies for
the world city called Vatican City. If I'm not mistaken,
only immigrants with papal approval are allowed to enter in.
Where's his compassion for the illegal immigrants?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That is a funny take.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
No, we invited him to throw out the first pitch
at a baseball game.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It was not a political take.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But yes, the Pope does have the Vatican City which
is walled, which is very secure, and so do most
of the super rich people out there who are open
to illegal immigration. They all live inside of gates and
they all have security around them, but they want you
not to have it. It's amazing how often that happens.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Funny how that gets continuously found out to be the case.
All right, we are going to have Cash Pittael with us.
The FBI director coming up next. Send us right now
on vip email on talkbacks questions you want us to
consider for the FBI director while we've got him here
on the air. That'll be next, So stick around.
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