December 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives into breaking news, national security concerns, and cultural debates shaping America. Buck Sexton hosts solo as Clay attends a family funeral, and despite battling a cold, Buck delivers sharp analysis on major stories dominating headlines.
The hour opens with updates on the Brown University shooting, where speculation grows about whether the attack was a politically motivated assassination targeting Ella Cook, a prominent conservative and College Republicans leader on one of the nation’s most left-wing campuses. Buck examines eyewitness reports suggesting the shooter yelled “Allahu Akbar,” raising questions about radical Islamic extremism and why authorities in Providence are withholding key details. He warns of political spin and compares this case to past incidents where officials obscured jihadist motives, such as the Pulse nightclub attack.
Buck also explores the broader terrorism threat landscape, drawing on his experience as a former CIA Counterterrorism Center analyst. He argues that radical Islam remains a unique global security challenge, contrasting it with other religions and dismantling the narrative around “Islamophobia.” This segment includes a candid discussion on why media and political elites downplay Islamist violence while exaggerating right-wing extremism.
Listeners also hear Buck’s take on Trump’s latest comments about Rob Reiner, the media frenzy surrounding them, and what it reveals about anti-Trump narratives. He touches on Trump’s Oval Office remarks on healthcare and previews ongoing debates about border security and drug cartel activity in the Eastern Pacific, where U.S. forces recently destroyed narco-boats.
Cultural commentary rounds out the hour with Buck highlighting a Tablet magazine exposé on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) and its corrosive impact on elite institutions like Brown. He urges honest conversations about diversity, censorship, and political violence on college campuses.
Finally, Buck promotes his upcoming book Manufacturing Delusion, warning about the resurgence of radical Islam and the dangers of silencing truth under the guise of political correctness. He also shares listener talkbacks, including concerns about campus security nationwide following the Brown shooting.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It is just going to
be me today, and I'm sorry to say you will
pick it up in my voice. I have a cold,
no surprise. I stayed out till ten pm one night
like a crazy man. Ten o'clock Eastern nuts. How can
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you do that?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Buck Well?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It was my Christmas party. Now I'm paying the price.
I have gotten the cold that has been ripping around
Florida and I guess probably the Holy East Coast.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And also.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We have Clay out today because his uncle passed away,
so he is going to his uncle, Kenneth eighty four
years old, a Vietnam War vet. Clay's mother's brother sadly
passed away.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It was something that.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
They knew was likely imminent, but it's always always so
difficult when you lose a family member. It's Clay's mom's only.
So Clay is at the service today and I am
here helming the show solo. As a result, we do
have a lot of news to get to. I apologize
if my voice breaks at some point when I'm talking
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about it, but I am going to be hydrating with
as much Crockett coffee as I possibly can. Maybe I
need to start making Crockett tea, but that's something we'll
work on. So we have updates on a few things
that I wanted to spend time with you on the
big stories, the Brown University shooting. Secretary of War Hegseeth
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responding to another strike, this one of the Eastern Pacific
think off the coast of Mexico, Eastern Pacific, blowing up
more of those drug boats. That continues the border situation
and the realities of national security with an open border,
a conversation that I want to have a lot of
people going to outrage level eleven. On Trump's comments on
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Rob Reiner. I don't know what they think they're going
to accomplish by making this a huge thing, but there's
a lot of reaction. This has become now the anti
Trump story of the week, it seems, is that Trump
truth about Rob Reiner. And we've got some Trump comments
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from yesterday in the Oval Office, also on healthcare, on
a whole range of things. So, oh, and I mentioned
the Bondi Beach shooting. We have some updates on that
for you as well, on the perpetrators of that. So
we have a very busy show. Something I thought was interesting. Look,
there are a lot of people out there right now
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who in the commentary sphere who have a approach where
they just say the most outlandish thing, usually the fastest
or the first, and then if it turns out to
be totally wrong, who cares. People paid attention when they did,
and then they just move on. We try to do
something different here where we do four leaning analysis. Will say, Okay,
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this is where I think something is likely to go.
But here's the evidence. Here's the proof. Here's my level
of certainty or lack thereof just essentially total honesty. I
mean I speak and Clay when we're here on this
show together, I speak to you in the same way.
This is actually how I was trained to do radio,
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going back to when I worked for Glenn Beck at
The Blaze. Glenn told me this. His program director, Don
Theodore told me this. They said, you are talking to
a dear and trusted friend. That is radio, and that
is what we do every day. I talk to you
the same way that I speak to my brothers, who
I talk to pretty much every day, my parents Carrie
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about these issues, right about these issues, and that means
that when I think something is you know, tingling my
spidey sense, I'll tell you, and that if it turns
out not to be the case, well then all right fine.
For example, when I was doing doing the terrorism analysis,
and I've done a lot of on air terrorism analysis
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in the past, particularly actually at CNN, although Fox News
as well, and in the immediate aftermath of a terrorist attack,
sometimes while it's even still unfolding in part I've had
to say, this is what I think is happening. And
I've never been really wrong. I haven't been always spot on,
but I've never been so off that I felt like,
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oh my gosh, I missed that. And generally I nail
it dead center of the bulls eye, just saying more
often than not that has been the case. Something was
worth bringing up with you yesterday, and I still can't
entirely verify this, but there is more pushing in that direction.
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Something very weird is going on here where the Brown
University shooting, and just in case you want to wear
Brown University is maybe, for a quote, elite school. And
we're going to talk about this whole notion of elite
institutions and elite schools later on an incredible piece on
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DEI over the last decade and what it has done
to these places was written in a tablet magazine. Incredible
piece which I want to get to basically destroyed the
notion of these places are prestigious as a joke now
to anybody who's paying attention. But Brown University may be
the most left it's the most left wing Ivy League school,
and I think proudly so. And it's among the most
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left wing universities in the country. Just as context. So
when you have somebody on that campus, Ella Cook in
this case, who was targeted and was killed, you what
is the chance this is a coincidence that she is
the vice president of the College Republicans that had nothing
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to do with that. Maybe, And like I said, if
it turns out there's no connection whatsoever, well I'll come
back and say, hey, guys, we're leading in this direction.
Didn't report it as fact. I'm just saying this is
where the analysis is leading me. But Mark Halpern, who
is a reliable source in his media reporting, I cannot
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think of a time, certainly in recent years when hal
Pern face planted on something I think he usually is.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He was very good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He was the only left of center guy who you
only Democrat really who nailed the Trump election, this last
Trump election. I was telling people for months. We were
playing him on the show because I was saying, see,
he knows Trump's gonna absolutely destroy the competition. But here
he is saying that he has been told. So again
this is a little bit like a game of telephone.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
We would do.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
This is a third hand source, now not even secondhand,
but he has been told that the Brown University attack
was targeting Ella Cook, a prominent conservative on campus.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Play cut two.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
The people are telling me that the family of Ella Cook,
the Alabama, a young woman who was a sophomore, has
been told that she was the target of what happened
to Bran. I have no idea whether that's true. There's
other theories about why the person did what they did,
But now that we don't know who the assailant is,
it's going to be harder to say. But if it's
true that she was targeted, that's a big story because
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she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus.
Don't know that it's true, but probably most of you
don't even know that that's being alleged because you'd have
to follow certain accounts on acts or have sources as
I do, who are telling me that.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So, like I said, it certainly would be very coincidental
that a prominent conservative and known conservative on a campus
that is also among the most radical left wing campuses
in the entire country doesn't. They don't have grades there.
I don't know if you know this. I had an
aunt who went to Brown many decades ago. She wouldn't
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like me saying many decades, but decades ago who went
to Brown. They don't do grades, and so it's a
it's a kind of a woo woo left wing place.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I bring that up only because not a lot of
conservatives there. Okay, even for a college campus.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Very rare.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So you're you're whittling down, you're looking at the percentages,
you're whittling down the coincidence factor here, piece by piece.
Then there's something else that makes me think about this.
The gunman said something. The gunman said something, and the
Providence police chief this has cut five Oscar Perez will
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not tell the they're still looking for the guy. They
haven't found him.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
There's like photo of him out there that they've released
is stocky build.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
They won't say what he said Play five, as a reporter.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Shooter yelled something right before?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Could you tell us what that? What?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
That was part of the investigation Johnny woolchem.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The only resign astept though, is for instance, like with
the unifarmer, his brother recognized the writing. So is it
it's possible a friend or faily member might recognize if
the person said something that was significant other than the
nine millimeter? Is there anything else inside that abatorium that
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you could tell us?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's correct? That listen.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Like I said, earlier, investigations will bring us to evidence
that we need to collect in order to be able
to prosecute that. But with that being said, with that
being said, we're going to continue to collect evidence and
if it leads us to something to that nature, that's
going to be extremely helpful for us to identify.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Somebody will be the first ones to put it out.
Did the suspect y'all? Life has been reported and some
of rode is reporting, But did you yell in a
human classroom?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And how valuable have witness statements been from those who survived?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Listen, my heart goes out to the victims and goes
out to the families and I'll tell you that there
the cooperation has been extremely helpful, and that with that
being said, we'll continue and I'm going to respect the
fact that and I hope that they get better. In
my heart and soul goes out to them. So that's
something that's something that we investigating. We took statements and we.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Have to confront next.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
He knows that they yelled something, or that the guy
yelled something. He knows he knows what was yelled too. Oh,
what a witness to the shooting who almost died himself
or herself is going to make it up? So we
know that something was yelled. Again, going into my is
this just a totally random act or is this a
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targeted political killing? Essentially another assassination on a college campus,
because that's what targeting a prominent conservative on a left
wing campus would constitute. I don't know if that's what
this is, but I do know that there are some
things happening here that make me think that is increasingly likely.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Why can't he tell us what was shouted?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
This is a bit like when I went on TV
to talk about the National the shooting of those two
National Guard soldiers in DC, I was told, Uh, it
wasn't confirmed, so I didn't want to say it on
the air, but I was told by sources in the
military that he yelled at lahu walk bar.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You pretty much know.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
What you're dealing with when someone's killing someone and they
yell lahu walk bar.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What did this guy yell? By the way, I'm not
saying it was lahu walk bar. I'm just saying sometimes
what they yell when they're shooting somebody is a big
clue as to what happened here and why they did it.
Why isn't law enforcement telling us? I think, because it's
very possible, I should say that it is because they don't.
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They don't like what the implication.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Is of what was said.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Providence, very left wing town, Rhode Island, very left wing
state Democrats run the whole thing top to bottom. Do
you think that the system there wants to deal with
the fact that there may have been a high profile again,
if this was the case, a high profile assassination on
a college campus of another conservative mere months after the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. No, they recognize the problems that
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that would constitute. So we'll continue to follow this. We
don't have this the shooter in custody, yet they still
haven't been able to find him. Seems like some level
of real incompetence here at work with the Providence Police Department.
But they haven't been able to find this individual, this shooter.
And perhaps there's you know, it could be it could
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have had a personal grudge, you know, it could have
been for all, It could be any number of things,
and I understand that. But I just as we move
along here, the delay from law enforcement in telling us
what was said, added to the fact that this happened
to be a prominent conservator on campus, it's certainly worth noting,
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isn't it. And if we find out that my theory
here based on the facts, that this does come true,
as in this is where I'm leaning. I haven't said
this is what happened, but where I'm leaning comes to pass,
then we'll know that they played political games with this,
well know. And that's that's why it's worth saying this now,
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so that you know and we know that we understand
what has gone on here. But we have to see
where the facts take us. We have to see what
the assailant, the alleged murderer here, well, who was he
and what was he all about? But we'll continue to
follow this because I'm starting to get that, Oh, they
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don't want people to know what really happened here, vibe.
I'm starting to get that in a big way, all right.
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Speaker 1 (15:22):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Definitely want
to take a lot of your calls because one, I
love hearing from you. In two, you'll help me save
some of my voice because it's coming getting out a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
As I have a cold.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Like I said, you stay out till ten o'clock, you
get you know, you get what you ask for.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I was partying until maybe it might have even been
ten to fifteen. I'm a wild man. A lot of
people I think in Miami have dinner at ten fifteen
and go out until you know sunrise, But not me.
We have all of all of your calls and talkbacks
to get to you later on. I would also say
I didn't even know this until the team pointed it out.
To me, So this is one of those Oh yeah,
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that's what I'm thinking is going on here that Libs
of Tiktokhia of Lives of TikTok, among others are saying reporting.
What's the difference now between the AP and someone like
Libs of TikTok. Well, Lives of TikTok is more accurate.
You know, It's amazing, isn't it. What is verification?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You have a lot of people who are independent voices
out there who are very like I said Mark Alpern.
He's even a Democrat. I cannot remember Mark Halpern saying
something that was factually very wrong reporting on something's actually
very wrong. So that's you know, he was told that
this woman was targeted on Brown University campus. But beyond that,
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Libs of TikTok and others are saying eye witnesses said
the guy who shot her. Now again, I notice how
I'm putting this. See, I'm trying to show you how
the responsible way, like how we would do this, not
even when I was in the government, but also the
way that media should do it, telling you everything so
you know everything, so if something turns out to be
different or new facts come in. You've never been on
(17:05):
the wrong side of this or told something that was
true that isn't. I've just told you this is what
has been said. This is where we are. Lives of
TikTok claiming that eyewitness has heard the guy yell allah
walk par.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Why wouldn't the mayor of Providence, who was speaking with
a pretty thick accent there, Why wasn't the may Why
doesn't the mayor of Providence want to just tell the
public that very important fact.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And they'll say, oh, but it doesn't matter. It'll eventually
come out. No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If they hold that for a week or longer, the
whole point is, people will have moved on to something
else and this will just be another shooting and we
won't stop to think.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
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going on the show today. Bring me back to my roots.
As you know, I was a CTC analyst, a CI officer,
a CTC analyst, which is the counter Terrorism Center, which
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was stood up really as the anti al Qaeda unit
of the Central Intelligence Agency. It had a different name
before it was CTC, and that it became CTC, and it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Was really at the center of the action on a
lot of what the CIA.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Did, and did quite well post nine to eleven in
the war on terror, tracking down.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
These targets all over all.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The places that you know about, Pakistan, Afghanistan, I Racks area,
the Philippines, a place we're going to talk about here
shortly where there's still Islamic terrorism isn't interesting. There are
If I sat here and asked you, excuse me, if
I sat here and asked you to name a Christian
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terrorist group, you could think for a few minutes. I
don't know, maybe you'd come up with something. If I
maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
But if I said, come up with a Christian terrorist
group all over the world, in pretty much every country
where there's any concentration.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Of Christians, you definitely wouldn't be able to do that. Right.
Isn't that an interesting exercise? You might say?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh, but buck that sounds oh islamophobic, It sounds so racist.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
If I asked you to come up with a Buddhist
terrorist group, a lot of Buddhists all over the world.
In fact, there are about as many Buddhists in America
as there are Muslims. How many Buddhists terrorist attacks can
you think about on US soil?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
How many of those have happened? Can you think of one?
I did this for a living, and I can't. Seeks.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Seekhs are from South Asia. They are generally brown. They
therefore are ethnically the same as a lot of or
look very similar to a lot of Muslims from the
South Asia, including Pakistanis and Afghanis and people from India.
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I know there's all kinds of variation and everything else,
but I'm just saying, generally speaking, how many Sikh terrorist
attacks have occurred in the United States in your memory?
Where a Sikh was just you know, he took out
his working blade as seeks are supposed to carry, and
just started running around stabbing every zero zero, Not a
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single one. Ninety nine percent of Sekhs are not wh
about a million Sikhs live in America. Not a single
seek terror attack. Now, why am I going through this exercise?
Because the people who tell you that there isn't something
that is uniquely problematic to Islam in the twenty first
century or the twentieth century for that matter, when it
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comes to terrorism, are delusional. We all know this. We
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All the other conservatives that you like out there right now,
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Speaker 2 (23:10):
They're not writing books.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You know why, because you can't make any money because
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Speaker 2 (23:27):
That you even like more than me, which would be sad, but.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Possibly they will be like, oh, Okay, the book market
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But I talk about these things I talk about This
is why I'm thinking about this right now. The arguments
you'll hear about islamophobia. I work at the NYPD Intelligence
Division now Intelligence Bureau. Why am I bring that up?
Because just for the sake of making everybody feel like
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it wasn't the Islamic Terrorism Unit, which it was, but
we couldn't call it that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What were the real plots against New York City? It
was always some crazy Muslim guy who wanted to shoot
up a synagogue or blow up a subway. Always, always, always.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
We had a like a white supremacist unit, and we
had an Antifa unit, and we had a you know,
they were really really bored. But I give you, I
want to arm you with this argument about about why
Islamophobia is a nonsense term meant to shut down free
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and fair debate and discussion. It's an ideology. It is
not a skin color. It is not an ethnicity. Anybody
who says otherwise is ignorant. They don't know know what
they're talking about. Okay, they have no idea. Some of
the craziest Jihatis you will ever see in your life
are absolutely as white as I am, because they come
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from the Caucasus Mountain area, like Caucasian. I mean, this
is you'll see Kurds with blonde hair and blue eyes. Now,
the Kurds tend to be great, wonderful people, but technically,
you know, I'm just saying, not a lot of Jihatis
coming out of Curdistan. But you get that they're Muslims.
They're not ethnically, there's no ethnic similarity. They want to
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make it about race because they want to make you
not think about what's going on here. And so to
anybody who says, I've even run through this exercise, because
this is going to start to come up more, my friends, Islam,
radical Islam.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
We killed off a lot of the worst terrorists.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We did, with all the special operators and the drone
strikes and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
We paid a huge price for it. Was it worth it?
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
That's a whole other conversation. But we killed off al
Qaida leadership all over the world. Truly, we killed off
whole generations of foreign fighters. Truly, they can say we
made them. I don't know if you grow up in
London and you decide you want to go blow yourself
up in a rock, I think you probably had problems
before we invaded. But this is what is going on
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right now. There is a resurgence. You're seeing it the
beginnings of it, a resurgence of radical Islam. The Taliban
controls Afghanistan. We have this problem and the same voice,
you're gonna be saying, Oh, the real issue here is Islamophobia.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's not the real issue is people need to see
what's going on and speak openly and honestly about it.
And this is why I say, you'll notice there's no
buddha phobia in America. They'll only talk about Islamophobia. Why
is that most Buddhists are non white?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean there's like some.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You know, Malibu moms who become Buddhists, but generally speaking,
most Buddhists are non white.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And there's no terrorist.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Attacks here from Buddhists, or if there is, there's one
or something, Yeah, I'm sure somebody's gonna find one on
the internet. But they don't cause this problem from within
the Islamic community, from within the same roughly the same
number Musslim Americans Buddhist Americans. One of them is causing
a whole lot of terrorist attacks, the others not. And
they're they're both non white. So what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just wanted to get that out of the way,
or rather arm you with that, because as we talk
more about this now, we have, for example, a GOP
strategist who went on TV and said, straight up that
there are students who have gone on the record saying
this is cut thirty five, that the shooter on Brown
University yelled a lahuac bar play thirty five.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
The police did a press conference yesterday and they would
not confirm what the shooter yelled out before he started shooting.
So you had a room of sixty students, eleven which
have been shot.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Two are now dead.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
But that means that there are you know, at least
they said, are somewhere around sixty forty students who are
in there who could confirm what this man shot. At
least five students that I have seen, have confirmed on
the record.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Media interviewers saying that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
He yelled aliyut bar. Well, I think that that's pretty
relative information. I think that that would matter as there's
a massive search for the shooter. Did he yell aliut bar,
because then we should be looking for a you know,
free Palestine terrorist and read it yesterday, by the way,
had to shut down the Brown University board because Free
Palestine students were celebrating Ela Hook's death.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well you look at that.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Now, you see what they're going to do is assuming
that this all lines up the libs in charge here
the lib you know, police chief here, you can tell
this guy's a LIB. The Libs who run Providence, the
Libs in the media, the people that are always making
excuses for radical Islam.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's our fault.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
We didn't assimilate them on off. It's our Islamophobia whatever. Also,
this plays very much into the politics of the moment
because this would be, like I said, another high profile
while political assassination on a college campus within four months
of the Charlie Kirk assassination. This is a one way street,
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my friends. It only only one side is doing this stuff.
And it ain't Trumpers, it ain't secure, it ain't people
who are security focused on the right. No, that's not
that's not who's doing this stuff. You know, national security hawks,
you know people who college Republicans know, we're not the
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ones that are causing this kind of violence. We're not
the ones that are doing this. So that's why they
don't want you to know. And this all lines up
as well. I will never forget under the Obama administration
the Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida and some jihattist lunatic
goes into a gay nightclub and starts just murdering slaughtering
as many people as possible. It's just horrific, beyond imagination,
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beyond words. And the FBI under Obama blacks out on
the official transcript release him saying a la huac par
him saying I did this for isis him saying you know,
this is what the true Muslims do or something. Well,
all that stuff blacked out. We all knew what was there.
Why would they hide that from us? Because they think
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you can't be trusted with the truth. And I'm getting
a lot of that from what happened here at Brown University.
And they do this for a reason, they tell themselves,
or they'll tell you it's because we were waiting for
all the facts to come in, or we you know,
we don't want there to be innocent people.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Targeted because of bigotry or whatever.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Bad.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Really, what's going on here is this looks bad for
their team, roughly speaking, the left, the Democrats, the other
side of our political divide. And you can say, oh,
but what, this guy's a radical Muslim. And if you're
a radical Muslim in America today, are you gonna vote
Republican or Democrat? In fact, if you're looking for a
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radical Islamic elected official in today's America. Is it going
to be a Democrat or Republican. We all know what's
going on here, so I think we need to speak
honestly and truthfully about it, even if they try to
say things to you. But like I said, always walk anyone.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Who says you're being Islamophobic. And I can do all
the throat clearing.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, it's less than one percent of Muslims in
this country have any affiliation with any kind of an
extremist group. And I could, but we all know that.
But unfortunately, even if it's one tenth of one percent,
if you're talking about millions and millions of people, that's
a big problem. If that includes people who are going
to go out and shoot up dozens of people or
you know, blow up subway cars or whatever it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Is, that's a big problem.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And think about how much time they spend on the
other side, under the Biden years, in particular, telling you that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
The real threat of extremism was right wing extremists.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Nobody gets on a plane and says, you know, I'm
worried that one of the MAGA guys is going to
sneak a bomb on this thing. Nobody, not even I'm
the gee hottest. Nobody thinks that. But we have to pretend.
I've never pretended, So I was gonna say I'm done pretending.
But I've never pretended. I've always been very honest on this.
This is why I started to get in trouble at CNN,
(32:13):
because they would try to have their experts come out
and talk to me about this, and I would smoke
them like the fools they are because I know more
than them and they're on the wrong side. So I
want you to know this stuff. I want you to
be equipped with these arguments because it's gonna come up more.
It's gonna do you think that all these students that
have gone on the record misheard what was said?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Possible? Likely? No, all right?
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Speaker 1 (34:53):
Welcome back in here to play in Buck, and we're
going to get to some of your.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Talk and some of your calls. Here. Let's get to
Matt in Columbus, Ohio. This is talk back. See hit it.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
This says Matt out of Columbus, Ohio. It's just heard
on the news.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
RDEO.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Though the Ohio State Campus Police are increasing their patrols
on campus this weekend. Sounds good, But if they knew
what that individual said in Brown, they might be able
to get their resources some better places that are just
randomly across the campus.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, but they are going to go through the security
theater of oh, yeah, we're going to deploy more cops
on campus. Well, who was this guy and what did
he do? If you don't know that, you don't know anything.
You know, for all they know, it could be, you know,
a disgruntled lab partner or something. I mean, they now,
I don't think that's what happened. I've explained what I
think is going on here. But I'm just saying the
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cops are acting like we know nothing about this and
the fact that this chief of police, this guy is
holding back information from the public on a matter of
public safety.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
This is why people don't trust the system. And this
is why.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
People are really sick of being lectured about how diversity
is our strength. If diversity is our strength, why do
they have to lie about things like this? Why do
they have to protect us from the truth about what
our quote diversity costs us? Sometimes this is just where
we are now. Amazing, We're finally allowed to talk about
(36:24):
this stuff now. I've been talking about it for a
long time. In fact, the team was trying to find
me smacking around some CNN libs a decade ago after
a terrorist attack.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
We'll see if we get that for you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
But speaking of terror attacks, more on the Bondai terror attack.
Those guys were yelling a lot who walk bar killed
a lot of people. What are the Australian authorities saying
about it? And what do we know about their shooters.
We'll get into that and more coming up
Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It is just going to
be me today, and I'm sorry to say you will
pick it up in my voice. I have a cold,
no surprise. I stayed out till ten pm one night
like a crazy man. Ten o'clock Eastern nuts. How can
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you do that?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Buck Well?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It was my Christmas party. Now I'm paying the price.
I have gotten the cold that has been ripping around
Florida and I guess probably the Holy East Coast.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And also.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We have Clay out today because his uncle passed away,
so he is going to his uncle, Kenneth eighty four
years old, a Vietnam War vet. Clay's mother's brother sadly
passed away.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It was something that.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
They knew was likely imminent, but it's always always so
difficult when you lose a family member. It's Clay's mom's only.
So Clay is at the service today and I am
here helming the show solo. As a result, we do
have a lot of news to get to. I apologize
if my voice breaks at some point when I'm talking
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about it, but I am going to be hydrating with
as much Crockett coffee as I possibly can. Maybe I
need to start making Crockett tea, but that's something we'll
work on. So we have updates on a few things
that I wanted to spend time with you on the
big stories, the Brown University shooting. Secretary of War Hegseeth
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responding to another strike, this one of the Eastern Pacific
think off the coast of Mexico, Eastern Pacific, blowing up
more of those drug boats. That continues the border situation
and the realities of national security with an open border,
a conversation that I want to have a lot of
people going to outrage level eleven. On Trump's comments on
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Rob Reiner. I don't know what they think they're going
to accomplish by making this a huge thing, but there's
a lot of reaction. This has become now the anti
Trump story of the week, it seems, is that Trump
truth about Rob Reiner. And we've got some Trump comments
(02:18):
from yesterday in the Oval Office, also on healthcare, on
a whole range of things. So, oh, and I mentioned
the Bondi Beach shooting. We have some updates on that
for you as well, on the perpetrators of that. So
we have a very busy show. Something I thought was interesting. Look,
there are a lot of people out there right now
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who in the commentary sphere who have a approach where
they just say the most outlandish thing, usually the fastest
or the first, and then if it turns out to
be totally wrong, who cares. People paid attention when they did,
and then they just move on. We try to do
something different here where we do four leaning analysis. Will say, Okay,
(03:01):
this is where I think something is likely to go.
But here's the evidence. Here's the proof. Here's my level
of certainty or lack thereof just essentially total honesty. I
mean I speak and Clay when we're here on this
show together, I speak to you in the same way.
This is actually how I was trained to do radio,
(03:21):
going back to when I worked for Glenn Beck at
The Blaze. Glenn told me this. His program director, Don
Theodore told me this. They said, you are talking to
a dear and trusted friend. That is radio, and that
is what we do every day. I talk to you
the same way that I speak to my brothers, who
I talk to pretty much every day, my parents Carrie
(03:43):
about these issues, right about these issues, and that means
that when I think something is you know, tingling my
spidey sense, I'll tell you, and that if it turns
out not to be the case, well then all right fine.
For example, when I was doing doing the terrorism analysis,
and I've done a lot of on air terrorism analysis
(04:04):
in the past, particularly actually at CNN, although Fox News
as well, and in the immediate aftermath of a terrorist attack,
sometimes while it's even still unfolding in part I've had
to say, this is what I think is happening. And
I've never been really wrong. I haven't been always spot on,
but I've never been so off that I felt like,
(04:24):
oh my gosh, I missed that. And generally I nail
it dead center of the bulls eye, just saying more
often than not that has been the case. Something was
worth bringing up with you yesterday, and I still can't
entirely verify this, but there is more pushing in that direction.
(04:46):
Something very weird is going on here where the Brown
University shooting, and just in case you want to wear
Brown University is maybe, for a quote, elite school. And
we're going to talk about this whole notion of elite
institutions and elite schools later on an incredible piece on
(05:07):
DEI over the last decade and what it has done
to these places was written in a tablet magazine. Incredible
piece which I want to get to basically destroyed the
notion of these places are prestigious as a joke now
to anybody who's paying attention. But Brown University may be
the most left it's the most left wing Ivy League school,
and I think proudly so. And it's among the most
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left wing universities in the country. Just as context. So
when you have somebody on that campus, Ella Cook in
this case, who was targeted and was killed, you what
is the chance this is a coincidence that she is
the vice president of the College Republicans that had nothing
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to do with that. Maybe, And like I said, if
it turns out there's no connection whatsoever, well I'll come
back and say, hey, guys, we're leading in this direction.
Didn't report it as fact. I'm just saying this is
where the analysis is leading me. But Mark Halpern, who
is a reliable source in his media reporting, I cannot
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think of a time, certainly in recent years when hal
Pern face planted on something I think he usually is.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He was very good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He was the only left of center guy who you
only Democrat really who nailed the Trump election, this last
Trump election. I was telling people for months. We were
playing him on the show because I was saying, see,
he knows Trump's gonna absolutely destroy the competition. But here
he is saying that he has been told. So again
this is a little bit like a game of telephone.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
We would do.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
This is a third hand source, now not even secondhand,
but he has been told that the Brown University attack
was targeting Ella Cook, a prominent conservative on campus.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Play cut two.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
The people are telling me that the family of Ella Cook,
the Alabama, a young woman who was a sophomore, has
been told that she was the target of what happened
to Bran. I have no idea whether that's true. There's
other theories about why the person did what they did,
But now that we don't know who the assailant is,
it's going to be harder to say. But if it's
true that she was targeted, that's a big story because
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she was one of the most visible conservatives on that campus.
Don't know that it's true, but probably most of you
don't even know that that's being alleged because you'd have
to follow certain accounts on acts or have sources as
I do, who are telling me that.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So, like I said, it certainly would be very coincidental
that a prominent conservative and known conservative on a campus
that is also among the most radical left wing campuses
in the entire country doesn't. They don't have grades there.
I don't know if you know this. I had an
aunt who went to Brown many decades ago. She wouldn't
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like me saying many decades, but decades ago who went
to Brown. They don't do grades, and so it's a
it's a kind of a woo woo left wing place.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I bring that up only because not a lot of
conservatives there. Okay, even for a college campus.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Very rare.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So you're you're whittling down, you're looking at the percentages,
you're whittling down the coincidence factor here, piece by piece.
Then there's something else that makes me think about this.
The gunman said something. The gunman said something, and the
Providence police chief this has cut five Oscar Perez will
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not tell the they're still looking for the guy. They
haven't found him.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
There's like photo of him out there that they've released
is stocky build.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
They won't say what he said Play five, as a reporter.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Shooter yelled something right before?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Could you tell us what that? What?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
That was part of the investigation Johnny woolchem.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The only resign astept though, is for instance, like with
the unifarmer, his brother recognized the writing. So is it
it's possible a friend or faily member might recognize if
the person said something that was significant other than the
nine millimeter? Is there anything else inside that abatorium that
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you could tell us?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's correct? That listen.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Like I said, earlier, investigations will bring us to evidence
that we need to collect in order to be able
to prosecute that. But with that being said, with that
being said, we're going to continue to collect evidence and
if it leads us to something to that nature, that's
going to be extremely helpful for us to identify.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Somebody will be the first ones to put it out.
Did the suspect y'all? Life has been reported and some
of rode is reporting, But did you yell in a
human classroom?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And how valuable have witness statements been from those who survived?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Listen, my heart goes out to the victims and goes
out to the families and I'll tell you that there
the cooperation has been extremely helpful, and that with that
being said, we'll continue and I'm going to respect the
fact that and I hope that they get better. In
my heart and soul goes out to them. So that's
something that's something that we investigating. We took statements and we.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Have to confront next.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
He knows that they yelled something, or that the guy
yelled something. He knows he knows what was yelled too. Oh,
what a witness to the shooting who almost died himself
or herself is going to make it up? So we
know that something was yelled. Again, going into my is
this just a totally random act or is this a
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targeted political killing? Essentially another assassination on a college campus,
because that's what targeting a prominent conservative on a left
wing campus would constitute. I don't know if that's what
this is, but I do know that there are some
things happening here that make me think that is increasingly likely.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Why can't he tell us what was shouted?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
This is a bit like when I went on TV
to talk about the National the shooting of those two
National Guard soldiers in DC, I was told, Uh, it
wasn't confirmed, so I didn't want to say it on
the air, but I was told by sources in the
military that he yelled at lahu walk bar.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You pretty much know.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
What you're dealing with when someone's killing someone and they
yell lahu walk bar.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Right, So.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What did this guy yell? By the way, I'm not
saying it was lahu walk bar. I'm just saying sometimes
what they yell when they're shooting somebody is a big
clue as to what happened here and why they did it.
Why isn't law enforcement telling us? I think, because it's
very possible, I should say that it is because they don't.
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They don't like what the implication.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Is of what was said.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Providence, very left wing town, Rhode Island, very left wing
state Democrats run the whole thing top to bottom. Do
you think that the system there wants to deal with
the fact that there may have been a high profile again,
if this was the case, a high profile assassination on
a college campus of another conservative mere months after the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. No, they recognize the problems that
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that would constitute. So we'll continue to follow this. We
don't have this the shooter in custody, yet they still
haven't been able to find him. Seems like some level
of real incompetence here at work with the Providence Police Department.
But they haven't been able to find this individual, this shooter.
And perhaps there's you know, it could be it could
(12:47):
have had a personal grudge, you know, it could have
been for all, It could be any number of things,
and I understand that. But I just as we move
along here, the delay from law enforcement in telling us
what was said, added to the fact that this happened
to be a prominent conservator on campus, it's certainly worth noting,
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isn't it. And if we find out that my theory
here based on the facts, that this does come true,
as in this is where I'm leaning. I haven't said
this is what happened, but where I'm leaning comes to pass,
then we'll know that they played political games with this,
well know. And that's that's why it's worth saying this now,
(13:28):
so that you know and we know that we understand
what has gone on here. But we have to see
where the facts take us. We have to see what
the assailant, the alleged murderer here, well, who was he
and what was he all about? But we'll continue to
follow this because I'm starting to get that, Oh, they
(13:51):
don't want people to know what really happened here, vibe.
I'm starting to get that in a big way, all right.
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Speaker 1 (15:22):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Definitely want
to take a lot of your calls because one, I
love hearing from you. In two, you'll help me save
some of my voice because it's coming getting out a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
As I have a cold.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Like I said, you stay out till ten o'clock, you
get you know, you get what you ask for.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I was partying until maybe it might have even been
ten to fifteen. I'm a wild man. A lot of
people I think in Miami have dinner at ten fifteen
and go out until you know sunrise, But not me.
We have all of all of your calls and talkbacks
to get to you later on. I would also say
I didn't even know this until the team pointed it out.
To me, So this is one of those Oh yeah,
(16:02):
that's what I'm thinking is going on here that Libs
of Tiktokhia of Lives of TikTok, among others are saying reporting.
What's the difference now between the AP and someone like
Libs of TikTok. Well, Lives of TikTok is more accurate.
You know, It's amazing, isn't it. What is verification?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You have a lot of people who are independent voices
out there who are very like I said Mark Alpern.
He's even a Democrat. I cannot remember Mark Halpern saying
something that was factually very wrong reporting on something's actually
very wrong. So that's you know, he was told that
this woman was targeted on Brown University campus. But beyond that,
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Libs of TikTok and others are saying eye witnesses said
the guy who shot her. Now again, I notice how
I'm putting this. See, I'm trying to show you how
the responsible way, like how we would do this, not
even when I was in the government, but also the
way that media should do it, telling you everything so
you know everything, so if something turns out to be
different or new facts come in. You've never been on
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the wrong side of this or told something that was
true that isn't. I've just told you this is what
has been said. This is where we are. Lives of
TikTok claiming that eyewitness has heard the guy yell allah
walk par.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Why wouldn't the mayor of Providence, who was speaking with
a pretty thick accent there, Why wasn't the may Why
doesn't the mayor of Providence want to just tell the
public that very important fact.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And they'll say, oh, but it doesn't matter. It'll eventually
come out. No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If they hold that for a week or longer, the
whole point is, people will have moved on to something
else and this will just be another shooting and we
won't stop to think.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
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the left either coddles or supports, was behind this. Yeah,
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even more coming on this. A lot of terrorism analysis
going on the show today. Bring me back to my roots.
As you know, I was a CTC analyst, a CI officer,
a CTC analyst, which is the counter Terrorism Center, which
(19:16):
was stood up really as the anti al Qaeda unit
of the Central Intelligence Agency. It had a different name
before it was CTC, and that it became CTC, and it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Was really at the center of the action on a
lot of what the CIA.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Did, and did quite well post nine to eleven in
the war on terror, tracking down.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
These targets all over all.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The places that you know about, Pakistan, Afghanistan, I Racks area,
the Philippines, a place we're going to talk about here
shortly where there's still Islamic terrorism isn't interesting. There are
If I sat here and asked you, excuse me, if
I sat here and asked you to name a Christian
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terrorist group, you could think for a few minutes. I
don't know, maybe you'd come up with something. If I
maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
But if I said, come up with a Christian terrorist
group all over the world, in pretty much every country
where there's any concentration.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Of Christians, you definitely wouldn't be able to do that. Right.
Isn't that an interesting exercise? You might say?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh, but buck that sounds oh islamophobic, It sounds so racist.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
If I asked you to come up with a Buddhist
terrorist group, a lot of Buddhists all over the world.
In fact, there are about as many Buddhists in America
as there are Muslims. How many Buddhists terrorist attacks can
you think about on US soil?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
How many of those have happened? Can you think of one?
I did this for a living, and I can't. Seeks.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Seekhs are from South Asia. They are generally brown. They
therefore are ethnically the same as a lot of or
look very similar to a lot of Muslims from the
South Asia, including Pakistanis and Afghanis and people from India.
(21:33):
I know there's all kinds of variation and everything else,
but I'm just saying, generally speaking, how many Sikh terrorist
attacks have occurred in the United States in your memory?
Where a Sikh was just you know, he took out
his working blade as seeks are supposed to carry, and
just started running around stabbing every zero zero, Not a
(21:56):
single one. Ninety nine percent of Sekhs are not wh
about a million Sikhs live in America. Not a single
seek terror attack. Now, why am I going through this exercise?
Because the people who tell you that there isn't something
that is uniquely problematic to Islam in the twenty first
century or the twentieth century for that matter, when it
(22:18):
comes to terrorism, are delusional. We all know this. We
all know this. I told you when I worked again
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Speaker 2 (22:55):
You help me. You know what that does? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All the other conservatives that you like out there right now,
especially my contemporaries. You know, yeah, there have been Mark
Levin's been fantastically successful selling books, and Bill O'Reilly I'm
talking about the lower general, the younger generation.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
They're not writing books.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You know why, because you can't make any money because
people aren't buying books. And then what happens, and then
people just start hiring ghostwriters. I poured my blood, sweat,
and tears into this book. If you help me make
this successful, I am telling you there will be other people,
maybe people.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
That you even like more than me, which would be sad, but.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Possibly they will be like, oh, Okay, the book market
is alive and well, the book market is in a
rough spot. Part of this also ties into the dece
DEI stuff I want to talk about later. That's on
the publisher side, but manufacturing delusion. Go get a copy,
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because that it's all about the first week. What is
that number that then determines the momentum and everything else.
But I talk about these things I talk about This
is why I'm thinking about this right now. The arguments
you'll hear about islamophobia. I work at the NYPD Intelligence
Division now Intelligence Bureau. Why am I bring that up?
Because just for the sake of making everybody feel like
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it wasn't the Islamic Terrorism Unit, which it was, but
we couldn't call it that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What were the real plots against New York City? It
was always some crazy Muslim guy who wanted to shoot
up a synagogue or blow up a subway. Always, always, always.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
We had a like a white supremacist unit, and we
had an Antifa unit, and we had a you know,
they were really really bored. But I give you, I
want to arm you with this argument about about why
Islamophobia is a nonsense term meant to shut down free
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and fair debate and discussion. It's an ideology. It is
not a skin color. It is not an ethnicity. Anybody
who says otherwise is ignorant. They don't know know what
they're talking about. Okay, they have no idea. Some of
the craziest Jihatis you will ever see in your life
are absolutely as white as I am, because they come
(25:12):
from the Caucasus Mountain area, like Caucasian. I mean, this
is you'll see Kurds with blonde hair and blue eyes. Now,
the Kurds tend to be great, wonderful people, but technically,
you know, I'm just saying, not a lot of Jihatis
coming out of Curdistan. But you get that they're Muslims.
They're not ethnically, there's no ethnic similarity. They want to
(25:33):
make it about race because they want to make you
not think about what's going on here. And so to
anybody who says, I've even run through this exercise, because
this is going to start to come up more, my friends, Islam,
radical Islam.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
We killed off a lot of the worst terrorists.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We did, with all the special operators and the drone
strikes and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
We paid a huge price for it. Was it worth it?
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
That's a whole other conversation. But we killed off al
Qaida leadership all over the world. Truly, we killed off
whole generations of foreign fighters. Truly, they can say we
made them. I don't know if you grow up in
London and you decide you want to go blow yourself
up in a rock, I think you probably had problems
before we invaded. But this is what is going on
(26:15):
right now. There is a resurgence. You're seeing it the
beginnings of it, a resurgence of radical Islam. The Taliban
controls Afghanistan. We have this problem and the same voice,
you're gonna be saying, Oh, the real issue here is Islamophobia.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's not the real issue is people need to see
what's going on and speak openly and honestly about it.
And this is why I say, you'll notice there's no
buddha phobia in America. They'll only talk about Islamophobia. Why
is that most Buddhists are non white?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean there's like some.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You know, Malibu moms who become Buddhists, but generally speaking,
most Buddhists are non white.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And there's no terrorist.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Attacks here from Buddhists, or if there is, there's one
or something, Yeah, I'm sure somebody's gonna find one on
the internet. But they don't cause this problem from within
the Islamic community, from within the same roughly the same
number Musslim Americans Buddhist Americans. One of them is causing
a whole lot of terrorist attacks, the others not. And
they're they're both non white. So what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I just wanted to get that out of the way,
or rather arm you with that, because as we talk
more about this now, we have, for example, a GOP
strategist who went on TV and said, straight up that
there are students who have gone on the record saying
this is cut thirty five, that the shooter on Brown
University yelled a lahuac bar play thirty five.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
The police did a press conference yesterday and they would
not confirm what the shooter yelled out before he started shooting.
So you had a room of sixty students, eleven which
have been shot.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Two are now dead.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
But that means that there are you know, at least
they said, are somewhere around sixty forty students who are
in there who could confirm what this man shot. At
least five students that I have seen, have confirmed on
the record.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Media interviewers saying that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
He yelled aliyut bar. Well, I think that that's pretty
relative information. I think that that would matter as there's
a massive search for the shooter. Did he yell aliut bar,
because then we should be looking for a you know,
free Palestine terrorist and read it yesterday, by the way,
had to shut down the Brown University board because Free
Palestine students were celebrating Ela Hook's death.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Well you look at that.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Now, you see what they're going to do is assuming
that this all lines up the libs in charge here
the lib you know, police chief here, you can tell
this guy's a LIB. The Libs who run Providence, the
Libs in the media, the people that are always making
excuses for radical Islam.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's our fault.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
We didn't assimilate them on off. It's our Islamophobia whatever. Also,
this plays very much into the politics of the moment
because this would be, like I said, another high profile
while political assassination on a college campus within four months
of the Charlie Kirk assassination. This is a one way street,
(29:09):
my friends. It only only one side is doing this stuff.
And it ain't Trumpers, it ain't secure, it ain't people
who are security focused on the right. No, that's not
that's not who's doing this stuff. You know, national security hawks,
you know people who college Republicans know, we're not the
(29:29):
ones that are causing this kind of violence. We're not
the ones that are doing this. So that's why they
don't want you to know. And this all lines up
as well. I will never forget under the Obama administration
the Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida and some jihattist lunatic
goes into a gay nightclub and starts just murdering slaughtering
as many people as possible. It's just horrific, beyond imagination,
(29:52):
beyond words. And the FBI under Obama blacks out on
the official transcript release him saying a la huac par
him saying I did this for isis him saying you know,
this is what the true Muslims do or something. Well,
all that stuff blacked out. We all knew what was there.
Why would they hide that from us? Because they think
(30:13):
you can't be trusted with the truth. And I'm getting
a lot of that from what happened here at Brown University.
And they do this for a reason, they tell themselves,
or they'll tell you it's because we were waiting for
all the facts to come in, or we you know,
we don't want there to be innocent people.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Targeted because of bigotry or whatever.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Bad.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Really, what's going on here is this looks bad for
their team, roughly speaking, the left, the Democrats, the other
side of our political divide. And you can say, oh,
but what, this guy's a radical Muslim. And if you're
a radical Muslim in America today, are you gonna vote
Republican or Democrat? In fact, if you're looking for a
(31:00):
radical Islamic elected official in today's America. Is it going
to be a Democrat or Republican. We all know what's
going on here, so I think we need to speak
honestly and truthfully about it, even if they try to
say things to you. But like I said, always walk anyone.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Who says you're being Islamophobic. And I can do all
the throat clearing.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
You know, it's less than one percent of Muslims in
this country have any affiliation with any kind of an
extremist group. And I could, but we all know that.
But unfortunately, even if it's one tenth of one percent,
if you're talking about millions and millions of people, that's
a big problem. If that includes people who are going
to go out and shoot up dozens of people or
you know, blow up subway cars or whatever it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Is, that's a big problem.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And think about how much time they spend on the
other side, under the Biden years, in particular, telling you that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
The real threat of extremism was right wing extremists.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Nobody gets on a plane and says, you know, I'm
worried that one of the MAGA guys is going to
sneak a bomb on this thing. Nobody, not even I'm
the gee hottest. Nobody thinks that. But we have to pretend.
I've never pretended, So I was gonna say I'm done pretending.
But I've never pretended. I've always been very honest on this.
This is why I started to get in trouble at CNN,
(32:13):
because they would try to have their experts come out
and talk to me about this, and I would smoke
them like the fools they are because I know more
than them and they're on the wrong side. So I
want you to know this stuff. I want you to
be equipped with these arguments because it's gonna come up more.
It's gonna do you think that all these students that
have gone on the record misheard what was said?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Possible? Likely? No, all right?
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Welcome back in here to play in Buck, and we're
going to get to some of your.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Talk and some of your calls. Here. Let's get to
Matt in Columbus, Ohio. This is talk back. See hit it.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
This says Matt out of Columbus, Ohio. It's just heard
on the news.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
RDEO.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Though the Ohio State Campus Police are increasing their patrols
on campus this weekend. Sounds good, But if they knew
what that individual said in Brown, they might be able
to get their resources some better places that are just
randomly across the campus.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, but they are going to go through the security
theater of oh, yeah, we're going to deploy more cops
on campus. Well, who was this guy and what did
he do? If you don't know that, you don't know anything.
You know, for all they know, it could be, you know,
a disgruntled lab partner or something. I mean, they now,
I don't think that's what happened. I've explained what I
think is going on here. But I'm just saying the
(35:51):
cops are acting like we know nothing about this and
the fact that this chief of police, this guy is
holding back information from the public on a matter of
public safety.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
This is why people don't trust the system. And this
is why.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
People are really sick of being lectured about how diversity
is our strength. If diversity is our strength, why do
they have to lie about things like this? Why do
they have to protect us from the truth about what
our quote diversity costs us? Sometimes this is just where
we are now. Amazing, We're finally allowed to talk about
(36:24):
this stuff now. I've been talking about it for a
long time. In fact, the team was trying to find
me smacking around some CNN libs a decade ago after
a terrorist attack.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
We'll see if we get that for you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
But speaking of terror attacks, more on the Bondai terror attack.
Those guys were yelling a lot who walk bar killed
a lot of people. What are the Australian authorities saying
about it? And what do we know about their shooters.
We'll get into that and more coming up
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