January 22, 2025 • 36 mins
This administration has a sense of urgency. EO on DEI is in effect. Elon Musk did NOT do the Nazi salute and the left running with that charge reeks of desperation. AOC is a moron. Mika’s sad over J6 pardons. J6 protesters compared to BLM protesters. Rigged jury in DC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. As we roll through the
Wednesday edition of the program, I am back in Nashville.
Buck has traveled back home for a short period of
time before he's on the road again. Trump continues to dominate,
having hit the ground at a full on sprint, as
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he is continuing to remake the country and to a
large extent, erase much of the legacy of the entire
Biden regime. All of that rolling through as many of
us look around and think, I can't believe how quickly
he is moving, But my goodness, I am glad that
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all of this is being put in place. And frankly,
many of the things that Trump is undertaking even kind
of surprise me. And then I look at them and
I say, my goodness. I mean, he's actually act in
a way that demonstrates he's not screwing around. He hasn't
gotten into office so far and gotten bogged down in
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any of the petty issues out there. And Buck, this
new EO that he has put out that essentially says, hey,
if you're involved in DEI at all, then you are
out now again. A lot of this is going to
lead to substantial litigation, and we have to understand that.
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And I know it's frustrating to some of you, because
the courts are going to weigh in, and you're going
to have a district court judge and a random location
out there somewhere that comes out and says, oh, the
President doesn't have this authority, and then it's going to
go to a circuit court, and then it's going to
wind its way all the way to the Supreme Court.
But the symbolism of something as profound as saying, hey,
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DEI has no basis whatsoever in our government actually sends
an incredible message across the country and it forces many
different big corporations out there, and many of you that
have been forced to be sitting around for these ridiculous
DEI seminars as part of your HR training. No matter
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where you work, whether it's a public school, whether it's
a large corporation, if the federal government is saying this
is no longer the rule of the land, a lot
of these companies that may have recognized that this is
absurd and should have had no basis in reality for
a long time feel emboldened and enabled to be able
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to stand up and say enough with this good riddance,
And it actually does, even if it's held up in court,
have a substantial impact on the day to day life
of tens of millions of Americans. Which is why I
say I love the incredible bravery that Trump is showing
right now to stand up against all this absurdity. I
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think he believes it. I think he's been put in
place an incredible team to be able to enforce it,
put the best regulations forward for the Supreme Court to review.
I can't get enough of this buck. I imagine you
feel the same way, Clay. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's difficult to even keep up with all the great
stuff that has been happening this early in an administration.
I've never seen any I've never seen anything like it before.
I don't think anyone's ever seen anything like it before.
You know, there used to be this sense, I think
of you got to kind of ease in a little bit,
you know, But no, actually there's no easing in. There's
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a sense of urgency. You know. When I went out
for kind of a special occasion dinner in New York
at this fancy restaurer, I remember up. It was a
Thomas Keller place up on the wall. The one thing
they had was sense of urgency. Because these guys are
operating in the culinary game at the absolute top, world
class level. This administration has a sense of urgency, hitting
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the ground running clay. Let me just throw I'm throwing
this out there. It's like the menu of things we
would talk about today. I mean, you got to that.
The DEI thing is amazing. I mean Trump rescinding Executive
Order eleven two four six from Lyndon Johnson and making
sure that that Affirmative Action DEI it's no longer part
of the federal government. There's other stuff. Trump administration has
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canceled travel plans for refugees who are who were planning
to be resettled in the United States. State Department issues
a one flag policy. This is one of those things
where you say, in what world should any administration at
a US embassy abroad be flying a flag other than
our flag? And just to be clear, it's not like
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we were flying the flag of the It's not about
flying the flag of the host country. Also as some
kind of a gesture of goodwill, we're talking about gay
pride flags, black Lives Matter flags, you know, left wing idea,
A lot flags flying from embassies under the Biden administration.
That's done with Trump administration expanding the authority of immigration agents,
allowing them to make arrests at previously protected sites such
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as schools and churches. President Trump pardoning Ross William Ulbrich,
the Silk Road Dark Web marketplace founder McClay. It's just
coming at us fast and furious with all this stuff.
And I think that what we're seeing is the president
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that we were hoping for coming out of the kinds
of character and mindset defining experiences that we saw over
the course of the election campaign, with the prosecutions, with
the attempt at assassinations. I mean, this Trump is going
for it, and this is what we want. This is
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what we've voted for, and it is just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
No doubt. And what I still would point to is
buck the opposition can't get itself in order because they
are just falling all over themselves. I legitimately can't believe
that of everything that took place over the Trump inauguration
and of the first couple of days of actions, that
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they have decided that the thing that they want to
go and die on this hill. Is Elon Musk supposedly
doing a Nazi gesture when any of you that have
watched this clip is self evident that he is awkwardly,
I will acknowledge because I do think in some ways
Elon Musk is an uncomfortable public speaker. And for any
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of you out there that have not regularly talked in
front of thousands of people, which is most of the
American public, you may watch yourself speaking and say, boy,
that doesn't look anything like I ordinarily would. So he's
trying to say from the bottom of my heart, and
he taps his heart and he kind of just throws
handout in gesture clearly to the entire arena awkwardly. But
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to claim that this is some kind of Nazi salute
is so crazy. I can't believe that this is their messaging. Buck,
this is what they have immediately fallen into.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They're desperate, they're delusional. Just take a step back from
this for a second, Clay, all of us take a
step back from this. So their theory now is that
the richest man in the world randomly would decide to
throw a Nazi salute into a speech. Why because he's
a secret Nazi. They really believe that. Anyone who believes
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that is a moron. And I know we shouldn't use
we shouldn't call people names. I get emails. No, anyone
who thinks that Elon Musk is a secret crypto Nazi
because of that is an imbecile who should be listened
to about nothing like Congressoman AOC for example, she's an
idiot by the way, I take it back. They can't
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make her into a bigger deal. They wish they could.
She's too dumb. She's too dumb, and she's not even.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Of your speaking about how dumb she is. This is
their messaging. They've learned nothing from the last nine years.
They've learned nothing by the massive increase of support for
Jewish voters for Trump, or for the fact that due
to the college campus protest, if you're going to assign
anti Semitism to either the Democrat or the Republican Party,
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it's clearly more prominent on the Democratic side of the equation.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Here she is social media superstar who also happens to
be a Democrat Member of Congress AOC and unfortunately is
one of the lowest IQ individuals in the Congress. Here
she is saying that Elon Musk made a Nazi hand gesture.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Play eight, you're gonna do a sig hail. You're going
to do a hail Hitler or their rebrand a Roman
salute from behind the presidential seal of the United States
of America. It's on. It's on. And what is so
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important for us to understand is that as long as
we don't give up, it's not over. It's not over.
It is not over.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Sorry, I thought she was over with this. She's more
to give us more. We need more of them being
completely childish imbeciles. We need them to keep doing this
stuff that got us to this point where so much
of the country is unified. In just taking out the
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Trump steamroller and the whine, the usual tricks, you'll notice,
you know, I saw, for example, someone who you know,
in a a would be illegal, who was actually at
the border waiting to come in. On the app they
were sharing the Scott widely share. She starts crying because
she can't come in. Yes, we're gonna have to say
tough things to people sometimes. Yes, we're going to have
to say you actually can't come into the country. Okay,
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you have a country that you were born in. That
is your country of origin and nationality and citizenship. Go
make that country a better place. We've had enough of
this ten million under Biden. Okay, the old moral blackmail
stuff clay from the media and the Democrats. We don't care.
It's not working.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Also, I think this is indicative to your point of
how AOC rose to prominence. She rode a rigged social
media ecosystem and a rigged legacy media that would give
her an artificial sense of the popularity of the opinions
she was sharing. And this is they don't have any
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idea how to adjust. I've said this, but last month
I was in Israel to claim that prominent Trump supporters
are Nazis. They tried this with Trump. It didn't work
that you would suggest that. What this reminds me. You
remember when they decided the Oka hand gester.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I was just thinking about that, didn't they They got
like a Mexican American fired from his power line company
or something because someone took a photo of his hand
outside of a door at a red light.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, you remember, for most people out there, and I'm
doing the gesture on camera here, it was like if
you got somebody to look at that you could punch
him in the arm, right.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But here, yeah, but here's yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So the culture that was going on, but it was
like they got people fired. They called it a racist
hand gesture on television. They showed it at the Army
Navy game. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But this is such an important reminder because they don't
have the power anymore to get their way with this stuff.
We lived in an America not long ago, a few
years ago, before this election, before twenty twenty five. We
lived in America where Democrats could decide the most insane
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crap imaginable and you would suffer for it. They would
decide that men could be women. They would decide that
a random hand gesture that has nothing to do with
anything means you're a secret white supremacist. They would say
that Donald Trump is a crypto fascist who's going to
put people in camps clay. They could get away with
saying anything, and you know, it's a reminder also of
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the era where they could just call someone racist and
ruin them not anymore, not anymore, or it doesn't it
doesn't work anymore. They're stupid games. They're communist approach to
the society around them. It just doesn't have the same
doesn't have the same punch. Sorry, libs.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I will say this is to me really representative of
them not being able to figure out how to fight
back against Trump. That they think that going after Elon
Musk for a gesture during a speech is going to
in some way imperil his abilits. That's what that's is
really about, right, It's about imperiling Trump's ability to get
things done. They are woefully misguided, and actually I encourage
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them to continue down this path of stupidity.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Agree, And here's one more thing. I'll at it and
we'll take some of your calls on this as well.
Eight hundred two A two to eight A two. You
know that number. Light us up. I want to say
calls today. Yesterday I was having some tech issues, so
the calls I couldn't really get to, uh clay. Notice
how what they're not saying is we've learned something about
what the American people want, and we the Democrat Party
want to pursue better governance and policies that will make
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people's lives safer, more prosperous, and more free, or any
variation of that. You know why they're not saying it
because one they don't believe in it, and two they
can't because the Democrat Party has been overtaken at the
top level by idiots. Honestly, these are not impressive people.
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They're not smart people, they are not good people. And
that's why the opposition is you're you're a crypto racist,
Nazi or whatever you're you know, that's why they're pretending
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Speaker 2 (15:24):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. It is a great
first forty eighty seventy two, I don't know two three days,
however you wanna how do you want to measure it?
Great first week of the Trump administration so far? And
I did, I did? Uh? I did break my fast
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When it comes to morning Joe Clay turned it on
for a few minutes this morning because I just needed to.
I needed to bask in some liberal tears. Uh Mika
over there. This is cut eleven. Very upset about the
January sixth pardons. Play it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
All these officers that we've come to know and bravely
defended the Capitol that day, they're going to have to
relive it now again. These people who attack them and
beat them to within inches of their lives are out
and free.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It's true, we shouldn't be shocked. Trump said that he
would do this. He said it repeatedly. It was a
key part of his campaign. At the same time, it
is very hard not to be incredibly sad right now
about this and what it means.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
She didn't quite cry, so it was a little disappointed there.
I know, I got you guys ready for it, Clay.
It's not also as if people weren't already extremely harshly
punished for January sixth. They're just getting their lives back.
It's not a Joe Biden preemptive pardon for all of them.
That's super important, which gets completely left up. They've been
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in prison, treated like terrorists for years. It's madness.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We need to talk about that when we come back,
because I think the preemptive pardon element of what Biden
does is actually being under discussed, and I think a
lot of people don't understand the concept and comparing them
because frankly, a lot of people are morons. But whatever
you think about the jan six individuals, all of the
people that Trump is pardoning, that is the purpose and
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intent of the pardon, and we need to talk about
that when we come back. A preemptive pardon is not
only a get out of jail free card. It's also
protection from anything that you may have done for a
decade plus that we don't even know about right now,
and that is seismically different than what Trump did. And
we need to kind of dive in here so you
guys are aware of the dishonesty and the way this
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is being talked about. But come on, Mika gonna cry
over this. You've got to be kidding me. I mean,
that is just this is why MSNBC and CNN are
collapsing in the ratings.
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program. Back in the
home studios for at least a day. Buck's about to
have to travel across country later tonight.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But come find me at Shot Show. Guys. I've never
been before, So some of you who know it well
can show me around and we'll high five and maybe we'll.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Get in Las Vegas. You're gonna be in Las Vegas
starting tomorrow's and.
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Speaker 1 (19:23):
So Buck will be flying there tomorrow, will be doing
the show there tomorrow. But I wanted to hit this
because I do think it's significant, and you brought it up,
and I know many of you may be hearing this
discussion point, and I think it's supremely important. The pardon power.
Let me give you an example. Joe Biden pardoned Hunter
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after Hunter had been convicted of crimes and or pled
guilty to crimes involving guns and tax related failure to pay.
I and but Buck and I said, hey, we expect
Hunter to get pardon. Nobody hardly in the media was
telling you that Biden lied and said he wasn't going
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to do it. We told you we expect him to
pardon Hunter. You may not agree with it. I said,
as a dad, if I were president in the United States,
I would pardon my son. I understand some of you
disagree with that. But if I felt like he was
being politically targeted because of me and I had that power,
I'm not letting my son go to prison. Some of
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you may disagree. That's fine. It's really more of a
parenting philosophy than anything else. But that is the essence
of the pardon power. Now, yes, Joe Biden personally benefits,
and ideally the pardon power would be based on principle.
For instance, when Biden pardoned a lot of the federal
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death row inmates, although he left out three, which undercuts
the principle there. If you are opposed to the death penalty,
then there is a principled stand associated with giving a
pardon in that respect. But in all of that those cases,
an individual was charged, prosecuted, convicted, and either faced a
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punishment or would face a punishment. That is what the
part in power is for. That is what happened with
all the jan and Six defendants. You could agree or
disagree with Trump's decision, but those individuals have all been charged, prosecuted,
many of them have served time, and Trump decided I'm
going to pardon the vast majority of them.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
One of the reasons that the infamous and even Eric
Holder who signed off on it, because there's a process.
The president can just do it, but there's usually kind
of a consent process or a i should say, administrative
process around the president for some of these pardons. Mark
Rich signed off on Bill Clinton's I'm sorry, Eric Holder
signed off on Bill Clinton's pardon of Mark Rich. And
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the reason that that was so outrageous to people. Mark
Rich's wife, by the way, it was very wealthy, making
huge donations to Democrats, so it felt like just the
whole thing was a straight up payoff. He fled after indictment.
He went to Switzerland, so he evaded justice. He didn't
even have the respect of an American to face the
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justice system. And that was why klay. So people were like, oh,
so he goes to Switzerland and gets off entirely, And
that is what happened, and.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
He had the wealth to be able to do it,
which is why it seems particularly unseemly. Now what Biden
did for his family and Anthony Fauci and the jan
six committee members is truly without precedent. He gave them
a clean get out of jail free card. In the
case of Fauci and his family in particular, dating all
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the way back to twenty fourteen, we have never seen
no charges brought, no investigations really of a substantial nature
by the Department of Justice that we know of underway here,
and he just gave them blanket pardon immunity, in particular
on the in the case of his own brothers and sisters.
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That was something that protects Biden himself. Also, I don't
think it's constitutional. I question whether you can just give
a floating get out of jail free card for a
decade's activity when we don't even know what in ord
the preempted pardon concept. And so this is big. There's
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a big difference between what Biden did with preemptive pardons
and whether you agree or disagree with it, what Biden
did say with Hunter Biden or with the death Row inmates,
or what Trump did with the January sixth individuals. That
is the standard method by which pardon goes and is
used historically in the United States. Biden's use of it
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to protect his family members members is expansive and I
think actually unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, it also goes to the corruption of the very
top of the government, right, That's something and they were
very clear when Trump was president the last time that
it would be an egregious miscarriage of justice and a
misuse of the pardon power if Trump pardoned himself or
any of his family members. They're all go to CNN,
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go to MSNBC. They are all on the record saying
that you can watch the videos because they're they're just
all frauds. It's just they're whatever helps their team is good,
Whatever hurts the other team is good. They don't care
about any actual principle, right, So that's been very clearly
established your Clay. But for these jen six individuals, the
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way that I mean, I just think this is one
of the biggest misrepresentations of it. The way that they
speak about this over at MSNBC, it's like, oh, you know,
like these guys didn't face anything for what they There
were people whose lives were ruined for Tress pass. Yes, okay,
you know who else is trespassing? All the illegal aliens
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they are trespassing on the soil of the United States.
They are illegally present here, and no one's saying they
should have their life destroyed and thrown in prison for years,
or at least that's not what people are saying. They're
saying they should go back to their home countries. So
it's amazing and dishonest on just such an epic level
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to watch these different and some of them are also
people that are kind of never Trump former Republicans, like, oh,
this is so horrible what he did. It's been years.
These people were all prosecuted more vigorously than anybody else
you can think of for the same conduct, and it's
because they decided. The exacerbating factor that made every one
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of these cases so much worse was that it was
on behalf of Donald Trump, and it rejected Joe Biden's
six million Really interesting that whole vote situation. It called
it into question, and that was their real crime, not
allowing the regime to just steamroll everybody who had questions.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Also, and this is the other part I think is significant.
If you are out there and you don't agree with
the pardon of the January sixth, individuals I do. I've
argued for it. We've argued for it for some time
on this show to a large extent. What I would
say to all of you is, compare how the Jan
sixth individuals were treated compared to all the BLM protesters,
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if you want to argue, and I think we should
have this as the standard that Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian,
whatever your political philosophy is, that if you break the law, trespass,
engage in violence, loot, whatever it is, you should be prosecuted.
I agree with that, but you should be prosecuted exactly
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the same regardless of what your political background is. Most
of the BLM protesters nationwide, certainly in Washington, d C,
got virtually no punishments at all, and they threw the
book at all of the Jan sixth. So, even if
you don't really like the part and buck, the disparate
treatment is an injustice in itself because it's political in nature.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And they brought all of these in DC because of
the rigged jury pool of Trump hating Democrat leftists who
are overwhelmingly benefiting from the federal leviathan in one way
or another, being based in DC, and that they weren't
given a fair trial the judges railroaded them, did not
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allow for change of venue for example. Why that's a
standard thing in many trials. Hey, guys, I think the jury,
of course, the jury in Washington, d C. Which is
ninety four percent Democrat, is going to be unfair to
Trump supporters given the politics surrounding their prosecutions. Not a
single one of them was allowed to have their trial
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moved outside of the DC jurisdiction to another venue because
it was all about having a machinery of destruction of
these individuals. I just add this claiman We could do
a lot of these comparisons. One example, though, is remember
the guy who fabricated evidence in the FISA application against
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I think it was a Carter page. Yeah, remember the
guy who and he did it. I mean he changed evidence.
He's a government lawyer. He made something disappear to get
that warrant to go after Trump. Clearly violated the law.
You know what his punishment was by the DC jury? Nothing? Nothing.
Guy walked without anything happening. Why because he was a
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soldier for the left and they knew it.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Idea going forward, and I have said this before, and
I'm going to text some of the guys that could
potentially make this happen. It is a rigged jury system
in Washington, DC that Democrats have exploited because to your point,
it's a ninety four percent Democrat jurisdiction. To my knowledge, Buck,
there is no Republican area that votes as strongly Republican
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as Washington d C votes Democrat. Since it's the seat
of the federal government. That is an incredible asset. I
actually think it's very fair and should happen that if
you are charged with federal crimes, you should be able
to relocate those federal charges to also your home jurisdiction
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if you so choose. In other words, if somebody wanted
to bring charges against me in Washington, d C. Instead
of me having to stand trial in Washington d C.
With the jury pool that advantages Democrats, given what I
do for a living, probably is not going to be
that fairly disposed to me. I should be able to
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relocate that case to my home state of Tennessee and
my home jurisdiction of the Nashville area and allow a
true jury of my peers here. In the event that
I were charged with the crime that would be me specifically,
you would be able to relocate something to Miami Dad,
somebody who has charges brought against them. I think there
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should be a law passed. The Republicans could pass it
right now. I think it would be tremendously beneficial for
Lawfair because one of the motivating factors of the Lawfair
Buck is that Democrats don't have to worry about the
their jurisdiction in Washington, d C. They have an advantage.
They basically have a home field advantage for every game
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that they want to bring. All I'm asking is, hey,
give an opportunity to someone like me or you, or
anyone else in the country to actually be charged in
a home jurisdiction as opposed to DC.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
This is just an aside, but our conversation about this
reminds me of it.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
What a.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Clown Jack Smith is. Oh, it's hard to believe how
much put aside the egregious weaponization right the art, but
it's also that he was so incompetent with the timing
of all of this, and that it was so blatant
with the jurisdiction shopping that he did, and just all
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of it was so clearly manipulated and orchestrated to rig
the system against Trump. And it was all for nothing.
In fact, I actually think that it propelled Donald Trump
to just be the choice without even a real primary
having to happen, and then normal Americans who aren't insane
because of Trump's arrangement just said, yeah, no, we're making
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a president again. Buck.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Also, you know who didn't get a preemptive pardon, Jack Smith?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Jack Smith.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think Biden's actually angry about how Jack Smith did
his job, and not giving him a pardon on the
way out was his way to demonstrate that anger about
the way that process went down. I think he believes
I think he's wrong, but I think he believes that
if Merrick Garland had brought the case faster, that Trump
would have stood trial, and if Trump had had to
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stay on trial for Jan six or related incidents, then
it would have actually damaged him. I don't know that
I buy that as being true, but I think that's
one of the things that Biden is holding to as
he left. And if you wonder whether that's true or not,
just look at who we've pardoned and who he didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
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And something else I want to put on the radar.
The only misstep that I've seen so far in the
first couple of days is however it happened that the
Trump family and the Vance family had to sit there
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and be scolded by this radical progressive episcopal female bishop,
you know, Christopher. Anyway, I was gonna there's a Christopher
Hitchins line about the Episcopal Church, which I'll let people
go find on their own. But I would just say this.
That's the only thing we should talk a little bit
about it though, because I mentioned yesterday you had to
(35:36):
go to the flight, that is indicative of the kind
of leftist victimhood and emotional blackmail that is now. I
think the only opposition that they have in Trump.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Is yeah, and by the way, we'll take some of
your calls in the second hour. But I think that's
also indicative of kind of the rig job that I
was talking about in the court system. It is tradition,
my understanding is to be at that church service, and
so Republicans are basically putting themselves in a position to
(36:11):
be hectored in a public fashion by a far left
wing zealot in a way that Democrats would never put
themselves in because DC is their home forum. And if
Kamala Harris had won, that exact same homily, that exact
same speech from that priest would have been what an
(36:34):
amazing job Kamala Harris has done being so welcoming. In
other words, the propaganda of the church would have moved
in favor of Democrats when it should just be a
down the middle prayer for America in general.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's a rig job.
Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. As we roll through the
Wednesday edition of the program, I am back in Nashville.
Buck has traveled back home for a short period of
time before he's on the road again. Trump continues to dominate,
having hit the ground at a full on sprint, as
(00:23):
he is continuing to remake the country and to a
large extent, erase much of the legacy of the entire
Biden regime. All of that rolling through as many of
us look around and think, I can't believe how quickly
he is moving, But my goodness, I am glad that
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all of this is being put in place. And frankly,
many of the things that Trump is undertaking even kind
of surprise me. And then I look at them and
I say, my goodness. I mean, he's actually act in
a way that demonstrates he's not screwing around. He hasn't
gotten into office so far and gotten bogged down in
(01:09):
any of the petty issues out there. And Buck, this
new EO that he has put out that essentially says, hey,
if you're involved in DEI at all, then you are
out now again. A lot of this is going to
lead to substantial litigation, and we have to understand that.
(01:31):
And I know it's frustrating to some of you, because
the courts are going to weigh in, and you're going
to have a district court judge and a random location
out there somewhere that comes out and says, oh, the
President doesn't have this authority, and then it's going to
go to a circuit court, and then it's going to
wind its way all the way to the Supreme Court.
But the symbolism of something as profound as saying, hey,
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DEI has no basis whatsoever in our government actually sends
an incredible message across the country and it forces many
different big corporations out there, and many of you that
have been forced to be sitting around for these ridiculous
DEI seminars as part of your HR training. No matter
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where you work, whether it's a public school, whether it's
a large corporation, if the federal government is saying this
is no longer the rule of the land, a lot
of these companies that may have recognized that this is
absurd and should have had no basis in reality for
a long time feel emboldened and enabled to be able
(02:40):
to stand up and say enough with this good riddance,
And it actually does, even if it's held up in court,
have a substantial impact on the day to day life
of tens of millions of Americans. Which is why I
say I love the incredible bravery that Trump is showing
right now to stand up against all this absurdity. I
(03:02):
think he believes it. I think he's been put in
place an incredible team to be able to enforce it,
put the best regulations forward for the Supreme Court to review.
I can't get enough of this buck. I imagine you
feel the same way, Clay. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's difficult to even keep up with all the great
stuff that has been happening this early in an administration.
I've never seen any I've never seen anything like it before.
I don't think anyone's ever seen anything like it before.
You know, there used to be this sense, I think
of you got to kind of ease in a little bit,
you know, But no, actually there's no easing in. There's
(03:40):
a sense of urgency. You know. When I went out
for kind of a special occasion dinner in New York
at this fancy restaurer, I remember up. It was a
Thomas Keller place up on the wall. The one thing
they had was sense of urgency. Because these guys are
operating in the culinary game at the absolute top, world
class level. This administration has a sense of urgency, hitting
(04:03):
the ground running clay. Let me just throw I'm throwing
this out there. It's like the menu of things we
would talk about today. I mean, you got to that.
The DEI thing is amazing. I mean Trump rescinding Executive
Order eleven two four six from Lyndon Johnson and making
sure that that Affirmative Action DEI it's no longer part
of the federal government. There's other stuff. Trump administration has
(04:25):
canceled travel plans for refugees who are who were planning
to be resettled in the United States. State Department issues
a one flag policy. This is one of those things
where you say, in what world should any administration at
a US embassy abroad be flying a flag other than
our flag? And just to be clear, it's not like
(04:48):
we were flying the flag of the It's not about
flying the flag of the host country. Also as some
kind of a gesture of goodwill, we're talking about gay
pride flags, black Lives Matter flags, you know, left wing idea,
A lot flags flying from embassies under the Biden administration.
That's done with Trump administration expanding the authority of immigration agents,
allowing them to make arrests at previously protected sites such
(05:10):
as schools and churches. President Trump pardoning Ross William Ulbrich,
the Silk Road Dark Web marketplace founder McClay. It's just
coming at us fast and furious with all this stuff.
And I think that what we're seeing is the president
(05:32):
that we were hoping for coming out of the kinds
of character and mindset defining experiences that we saw over
the course of the election campaign, with the prosecutions, with
the attempt at assassinations. I mean, this Trump is going
for it, and this is what we want. This is
(05:54):
what we've voted for, and it is just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
No doubt. And what I still would point to is
buck the opposition can't get itself in order because they
are just falling all over themselves. I legitimately can't believe
that of everything that took place over the Trump inauguration
and of the first couple of days of actions, that
(06:19):
they have decided that the thing that they want to
go and die on this hill. Is Elon Musk supposedly
doing a Nazi gesture when any of you that have
watched this clip is self evident that he is awkwardly,
I will acknowledge because I do think in some ways
Elon Musk is an uncomfortable public speaker. And for any
(06:43):
of you out there that have not regularly talked in
front of thousands of people, which is most of the
American public, you may watch yourself speaking and say, boy,
that doesn't look anything like I ordinarily would. So he's
trying to say from the bottom of my heart, and
he taps his heart and he kind of just throws
handout in gesture clearly to the entire arena awkwardly. But
(07:04):
to claim that this is some kind of Nazi salute
is so crazy. I can't believe that this is their messaging. Buck,
this is what they have immediately fallen into.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They're desperate, they're delusional. Just take a step back from
this for a second, Clay, all of us take a
step back from this. So their theory now is that
the richest man in the world randomly would decide to
throw a Nazi salute into a speech. Why because he's
a secret Nazi. They really believe that. Anyone who believes
(07:37):
that is a moron. And I know we shouldn't use
we shouldn't call people names. I get emails. No, anyone
who thinks that Elon Musk is a secret crypto Nazi
because of that is an imbecile who should be listened
to about nothing like Congressoman AOC for example, she's an
idiot by the way, I take it back. They can't
(07:57):
make her into a bigger deal. They wish they could.
She's too dumb. She's too dumb, and she's not even.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Of your speaking about how dumb she is. This is
their messaging. They've learned nothing from the last nine years.
They've learned nothing by the massive increase of support for
Jewish voters for Trump, or for the fact that due
to the college campus protest, if you're going to assign
anti Semitism to either the Democrat or the Republican Party,
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it's clearly more prominent on the Democratic side of the equation.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Here she is social media superstar who also happens to
be a Democrat Member of Congress AOC and unfortunately is
one of the lowest IQ individuals in the Congress. Here
she is saying that Elon Musk made a Nazi hand gesture.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Play eight, you're gonna do a sig hail. You're going
to do a hail Hitler or their rebrand a Roman
salute from behind the presidential seal of the United States
of America. It's on. It's on. And what is so
(09:10):
important for us to understand is that as long as
we don't give up, it's not over. It's not over.
It is not over.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Sorry, I thought she was over with this. She's more
to give us more. We need more of them being
completely childish imbeciles. We need them to keep doing this
stuff that got us to this point where so much
of the country is unified. In just taking out the
(09:43):
Trump steamroller and the whine, the usual tricks, you'll notice,
you know, I saw, for example, someone who you know,
in a a would be illegal, who was actually at
the border waiting to come in. On the app they
were sharing the Scott widely share. She starts crying because
she can't come in. Yes, we're gonna have to say
tough things to people sometimes. Yes, we're going to have
to say you actually can't come into the country. Okay,
(10:05):
you have a country that you were born in. That
is your country of origin and nationality and citizenship. Go
make that country a better place. We've had enough of
this ten million under Biden. Okay, the old moral blackmail
stuff clay from the media and the Democrats. We don't care.
It's not working.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Also, I think this is indicative to your point of
how AOC rose to prominence. She rode a rigged social
media ecosystem and a rigged legacy media that would give
her an artificial sense of the popularity of the opinions
she was sharing. And this is they don't have any
(10:44):
idea how to adjust. I've said this, but last month
I was in Israel to claim that prominent Trump supporters
are Nazis. They tried this with Trump. It didn't work
that you would suggest that. What this reminds me. You
remember when they decided the Oka hand gester.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I was just thinking about that, didn't they They got
like a Mexican American fired from his power line company
or something because someone took a photo of his hand
outside of a door at a red light.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, you remember, for most people out there, and I'm
doing the gesture on camera here, it was like if
you got somebody to look at that you could punch
him in the arm, right.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
But here, yeah, but here's yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So the culture that was going on, but it was
like they got people fired. They called it a racist
hand gesture on television. They showed it at the Army
Navy game. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But this is such an important reminder because they don't
have the power anymore to get their way with this stuff.
We lived in an America not long ago, a few
years ago, before this election, before twenty twenty five. We
lived in America where Democrats could decide the most insane
(11:57):
crap imaginable and you would suffer for it. They would
decide that men could be women. They would decide that
a random hand gesture that has nothing to do with
anything means you're a secret white supremacist. They would say
that Donald Trump is a crypto fascist who's going to
put people in camps clay. They could get away with
saying anything, and you know, it's a reminder also of
(12:19):
the era where they could just call someone racist and
ruin them not anymore, not anymore, or it doesn't it
doesn't work anymore. They're stupid games. They're communist approach to
the society around them. It just doesn't have the same
doesn't have the same punch. Sorry, libs.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I will say this is to me really representative of
them not being able to figure out how to fight
back against Trump. That they think that going after Elon
Musk for a gesture during a speech is going to
in some way imperil his abilits. That's what that's is
really about, right, It's about imperiling Trump's ability to get
things done. They are woefully misguided, and actually I encourage
(12:57):
them to continue down this path of stupidity.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Agree, And here's one more thing. I'll at it and
we'll take some of your calls on this as well.
Eight hundred two A two to eight A two. You
know that number. Light us up. I want to say
calls today. Yesterday I was having some tech issues, so
the calls I couldn't really get to, uh clay. Notice
how what they're not saying is we've learned something about
what the American people want, and we the Democrat Party
want to pursue better governance and policies that will make
(13:24):
people's lives safer, more prosperous, and more free, or any
variation of that. You know why they're not saying it
because one they don't believe in it, and two they
can't because the Democrat Party has been overtaken at the
top level by idiots. Honestly, these are not impressive people.
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They're not smart people, they are not good people. And
that's why the opposition is you're you're a crypto racist,
Nazi or whatever you're you know, that's why they're pretending
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. It is a great
first forty eighty seventy two, I don't know two three days,
however you wanna how do you want to measure it?
Great first week of the Trump administration so far? And
I did, I did? Uh? I did break my fast
(15:44):
When it comes to morning Joe Clay turned it on
for a few minutes this morning because I just needed to.
I needed to bask in some liberal tears. Uh Mika
over there. This is cut eleven. Very upset about the
January sixth pardons. Play it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
All these officers that we've come to know and bravely
defended the Capitol that day, they're going to have to
relive it now again. These people who attack them and
beat them to within inches of their lives are out
and free.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It's true, we shouldn't be shocked. Trump said that he
would do this. He said it repeatedly. It was a
key part of his campaign. At the same time, it
is very hard not to be incredibly sad right now
about this and what it means.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
She didn't quite cry, so it was a little disappointed there.
I know, I got you guys ready for it, Clay.
It's not also as if people weren't already extremely harshly
punished for January sixth. They're just getting their lives back.
It's not a Joe Biden preemptive pardon for all of them.
That's super important, which gets completely left up. They've been
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in prison, treated like terrorists for years. It's madness.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We need to talk about that when we come back,
because I think the preemptive pardon element of what Biden
does is actually being under discussed, and I think a
lot of people don't understand the concept and comparing them
because frankly, a lot of people are morons. But whatever
you think about the jan six individuals, all of the
people that Trump is pardoning, that is the purpose and
(17:18):
intent of the pardon, and we need to talk about
that when we come back. A preemptive pardon is not
only a get out of jail free card. It's also
protection from anything that you may have done for a
decade plus that we don't even know about right now,
and that is seismically different than what Trump did. And
we need to kind of dive in here so you
guys are aware of the dishonesty and the way this
(17:40):
is being talked about. But come on, Mika gonna cry
over this. You've got to be kidding me. I mean,
that is just this is why MSNBC and CNN are
collapsing in the ratings.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program. Back in the
home studios for at least a day. Buck's about to
have to travel across country later tonight.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
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Get in Las Vegas. You're gonna be in Las Vegas
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Speaker 1 (19:23):
So Buck will be flying there tomorrow, will be doing
the show there tomorrow. But I wanted to hit this
because I do think it's significant, and you brought it up,
and I know many of you may be hearing this
discussion point, and I think it's supremely important. The pardon power.
Let me give you an example. Joe Biden pardoned Hunter
(19:43):
after Hunter had been convicted of crimes and or pled
guilty to crimes involving guns and tax related failure to pay.
I and but Buck and I said, hey, we expect
Hunter to get pardon. Nobody hardly in the media was
telling you that Biden lied and said he wasn't going
(20:03):
to do it. We told you we expect him to
pardon Hunter. You may not agree with it. I said,
as a dad, if I were president in the United States,
I would pardon my son. I understand some of you
disagree with that. But if I felt like he was
being politically targeted because of me and I had that power,
I'm not letting my son go to prison. Some of
(20:24):
you may disagree. That's fine. It's really more of a
parenting philosophy than anything else. But that is the essence
of the pardon power. Now, yes, Joe Biden personally benefits,
and ideally the pardon power would be based on principle.
For instance, when Biden pardoned a lot of the federal
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death row inmates, although he left out three, which undercuts
the principle there. If you are opposed to the death penalty,
then there is a principled stand associated with giving a
pardon in that respect. But in all of that those cases,
an individual was charged, prosecuted, convicted, and either faced a
(21:06):
punishment or would face a punishment. That is what the
part in power is for. That is what happened with
all the jan and Six defendants. You could agree or
disagree with Trump's decision, but those individuals have all been charged, prosecuted,
many of them have served time, and Trump decided I'm
going to pardon the vast majority of them.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
One of the reasons that the infamous and even Eric
Holder who signed off on it, because there's a process.
The president can just do it, but there's usually kind
of a consent process or a i should say, administrative
process around the president for some of these pardons. Mark
Rich signed off on Bill Clinton's I'm sorry, Eric Holder
signed off on Bill Clinton's pardon of Mark Rich. And
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the reason that that was so outrageous to people. Mark
Rich's wife, by the way, it was very wealthy, making
huge donations to Democrats, so it felt like just the
whole thing was a straight up payoff. He fled after indictment.
He went to Switzerland, so he evaded justice. He didn't
even have the respect of an American to face the
(22:13):
justice system. And that was why klay. So people were like, oh,
so he goes to Switzerland and gets off entirely, And
that is what happened, and.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
He had the wealth to be able to do it,
which is why it seems particularly unseemly. Now what Biden
did for his family and Anthony Fauci and the jan
six committee members is truly without precedent. He gave them
a clean get out of jail free card. In the
case of Fauci and his family in particular, dating all
(22:43):
the way back to twenty fourteen, we have never seen
no charges brought, no investigations really of a substantial nature
by the Department of Justice that we know of underway here,
and he just gave them blanket pardon immunity, in particular
on the in the case of his own brothers and sisters.
(23:04):
That was something that protects Biden himself. Also, I don't
think it's constitutional. I question whether you can just give
a floating get out of jail free card for a
decade's activity when we don't even know what in ord
the preempted pardon concept. And so this is big. There's
(23:25):
a big difference between what Biden did with preemptive pardons
and whether you agree or disagree with it, what Biden
did say with Hunter Biden or with the death Row inmates,
or what Trump did with the January sixth individuals. That
is the standard method by which pardon goes and is
used historically in the United States. Biden's use of it
(23:47):
to protect his family members members is expansive and I
think actually unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, it also goes to the corruption of the very
top of the government, right, That's something and they were
very clear when Trump was president the last time that
it would be an egregious miscarriage of justice and a
misuse of the pardon power if Trump pardoned himself or
any of his family members. They're all go to CNN,
(24:15):
go to MSNBC. They are all on the record saying
that you can watch the videos because they're they're just
all frauds. It's just they're whatever helps their team is good,
Whatever hurts the other team is good. They don't care
about any actual principle, right, So that's been very clearly
established your Clay. But for these jen six individuals, the
(24:35):
way that I mean, I just think this is one
of the biggest misrepresentations of it. The way that they
speak about this over at MSNBC, it's like, oh, you know,
like these guys didn't face anything for what they There
were people whose lives were ruined for Tress pass. Yes, okay,
you know who else is trespassing? All the illegal aliens
(24:55):
they are trespassing on the soil of the United States.
They are illegally present here, and no one's saying they
should have their life destroyed and thrown in prison for years,
or at least that's not what people are saying. They're
saying they should go back to their home countries. So
it's amazing and dishonest on just such an epic level
(25:15):
to watch these different and some of them are also
people that are kind of never Trump former Republicans, like, oh,
this is so horrible what he did. It's been years.
These people were all prosecuted more vigorously than anybody else
you can think of for the same conduct, and it's
because they decided. The exacerbating factor that made every one
(25:36):
of these cases so much worse was that it was
on behalf of Donald Trump, and it rejected Joe Biden's
six million Really interesting that whole vote situation. It called
it into question, and that was their real crime, not
allowing the regime to just steamroll everybody who had questions.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Also, and this is the other part I think is significant.
If you are out there and you don't agree with
the pardon of the January sixth, individuals I do. I've
argued for it. We've argued for it for some time
on this show to a large extent. What I would
say to all of you is, compare how the Jan
sixth individuals were treated compared to all the BLM protesters,
(26:22):
if you want to argue, and I think we should
have this as the standard that Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian,
whatever your political philosophy is, that if you break the law, trespass,
engage in violence, loot, whatever it is, you should be prosecuted.
I agree with that, but you should be prosecuted exactly
(26:43):
the same regardless of what your political background is. Most
of the BLM protesters nationwide, certainly in Washington, d C,
got virtually no punishments at all, and they threw the
book at all of the Jan sixth. So, even if
you don't really like the part and buck, the disparate
treatment is an injustice in itself because it's political in nature.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And they brought all of these in DC because of
the rigged jury pool of Trump hating Democrat leftists who
are overwhelmingly benefiting from the federal leviathan in one way
or another, being based in DC, and that they weren't
given a fair trial the judges railroaded them, did not
(27:26):
allow for change of venue for example. Why that's a
standard thing in many trials. Hey, guys, I think the jury,
of course, the jury in Washington, d C. Which is
ninety four percent Democrat, is going to be unfair to
Trump supporters given the politics surrounding their prosecutions. Not a
single one of them was allowed to have their trial
(27:47):
moved outside of the DC jurisdiction to another venue because
it was all about having a machinery of destruction of
these individuals. I just add this claiman We could do
a lot of these comparisons. One example, though, is remember
the guy who fabricated evidence in the FISA application against
(28:10):
I think it was a Carter page. Yeah, remember the
guy who and he did it. I mean he changed evidence.
He's a government lawyer. He made something disappear to get
that warrant to go after Trump. Clearly violated the law.
You know what his punishment was by the DC jury? Nothing? Nothing.
Guy walked without anything happening. Why because he was a
(28:31):
soldier for the left and they knew it.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Idea going forward, and I have said this before, and
I'm going to text some of the guys that could
potentially make this happen. It is a rigged jury system
in Washington, DC that Democrats have exploited because to your point,
it's a ninety four percent Democrat jurisdiction. To my knowledge, Buck,
there is no Republican area that votes as strongly Republican
(29:00):
as Washington d C votes Democrat. Since it's the seat
of the federal government. That is an incredible asset. I
actually think it's very fair and should happen that if
you are charged with federal crimes, you should be able
to relocate those federal charges to also your home jurisdiction
(29:22):
if you so choose. In other words, if somebody wanted
to bring charges against me in Washington, d C. Instead
of me having to stand trial in Washington d C.
With the jury pool that advantages Democrats, given what I
do for a living, probably is not going to be
that fairly disposed to me. I should be able to
(29:43):
relocate that case to my home state of Tennessee and
my home jurisdiction of the Nashville area and allow a
true jury of my peers here. In the event that
I were charged with the crime that would be me specifically,
you would be able to relocate something to Miami Dad,
somebody who has charges brought against them. I think there
(30:03):
should be a law passed. The Republicans could pass it
right now. I think it would be tremendously beneficial for
Lawfair because one of the motivating factors of the Lawfair
Buck is that Democrats don't have to worry about the
their jurisdiction in Washington, d C. They have an advantage.
They basically have a home field advantage for every game
(30:24):
that they want to bring. All I'm asking is, hey,
give an opportunity to someone like me or you, or
anyone else in the country to actually be charged in
a home jurisdiction as opposed to DC.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
This is just an aside, but our conversation about this
reminds me of it.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
What a.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Clown Jack Smith is. Oh, it's hard to believe how
much put aside the egregious weaponization right the art, but
it's also that he was so incompetent with the timing
of all of this, and that it was so blatant
with the jurisdiction shopping that he did, and just all
(31:02):
of it was so clearly manipulated and orchestrated to rig
the system against Trump. And it was all for nothing.
In fact, I actually think that it propelled Donald Trump
to just be the choice without even a real primary
having to happen, and then normal Americans who aren't insane
because of Trump's arrangement just said, yeah, no, we're making
(31:23):
a president again. Buck.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Also, you know who didn't get a preemptive pardon, Jack Smith?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Jack Smith.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I think Biden's actually angry about how Jack Smith did
his job, and not giving him a pardon on the
way out was his way to demonstrate that anger about
the way that process went down. I think he believes
I think he's wrong, but I think he believes that
if Merrick Garland had brought the case faster, that Trump
would have stood trial, and if Trump had had to
(31:51):
stay on trial for Jan six or related incidents, then
it would have actually damaged him. I don't know that
I buy that as being true, but I think that's
one of the things that Biden is holding to as
he left. And if you wonder whether that's true or not,
just look at who we've pardoned and who he didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
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hoping he would. It has been absolutely fantastic to witness,
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Speaker 1 (34:10):
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I've always just assumed that hotcakes is another way of
describing pancakes.
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I don't know why going like hotcakes would be the
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you know you. I don't think you got to talk yesterday.
And something else I want to put on the radar.
The only misstep that I've seen so far in the
first couple of days is however it happened that the
Trump family and the Vance family had to sit there
(35:14):
and be scolded by this radical progressive episcopal female bishop,
you know, Christopher. Anyway, I was gonna there's a Christopher
Hitchins line about the Episcopal Church, which I'll let people
go find on their own. But I would just say this.
That's the only thing we should talk a little bit
about it though, because I mentioned yesterday you had to
(35:36):
go to the flight, that is indicative of the kind
of leftist victimhood and emotional blackmail that is now. I
think the only opposition that they have in Trump.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Is yeah, and by the way, we'll take some of
your calls in the second hour. But I think that's
also indicative of kind of the rig job that I
was talking about in the court system. It is tradition,
my understanding is to be at that church service, and
so Republicans are basically putting themselves in a position to
(36:11):
be hectored in a public fashion by a far left
wing zealot in a way that Democrats would never put
themselves in because DC is their home forum. And if
Kamala Harris had won, that exact same homily, that exact
same speech from that priest would have been what an
(36:34):
amazing job Kamala Harris has done being so welcoming. In
other words, the propaganda of the church would have moved
in favor of Democrats when it should just be a
down the middle prayer for America in general.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's a rig job.
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