September 9, 2024 • 36 mins
Haitian migrants terrorize Springfield, Ohio. Kamala crashing in polls on eve of debate. Nate Silver's latest model has Trump way ahead. Trump supporters should volunteer to help the RNC with election security, poll watching. Can Trump expand the map to Virginia and New Hampshire? Kamala is not a good enough politician to pull this off. Ohio caller on Haitian migrants.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody, Monday edition of the Clay Travis n Bucks
Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Get's going right now.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It is a big week everyone. We are excited to
be here with you talking about it. Debate night tomorrow night.
A lot of preparation talk, strategizing, tactical analysis and all
the rest of it going on today and tomorrow. We
will dive into that for sure. Also on x elon
(00:30):
Musk social media platform that is I think going to
play an increasingly large role in this election as people
get closer and closer to casting their votes because the
media can't shut down narratives. The situation of Springfield, Ohio,
which according to reports had about forty eight or fifty
(00:53):
thousand residents and has had twenty thousand Haitian sign lee's
essentially and people that are brought here under an emergency
order but just allowed into the country, no vetting, no nothing,
And there's a lot of stuff going around social media
about just the strain on public resources and what this
(01:14):
means for the town, the disorder, the crimes that are
being committed, all of it. So we'll get into that.
And there are allegations that are also flying around about
some of the migrants killing ducks in public parks. I mean,
this is really is this is being said.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I just want to be clear on the record in
public forums, and I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Killing duck, like they go up to it and chop
its head off and they start roasting it in the
park with like people pushing strollers by and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
This is what's being said right now. We'll get into this.
There's videos, there's people reporting this.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, we'll discuss this because it brings up once again,
not only are migrants affecting cities like New York, Chicago,
et cetera, but in small cities, either the government decides
or perhaps the migrants aside themselves to congregate in large
numbers and it puts a tremendous resource burden on that
(02:12):
city such that Remember Democrats are now pretending to be
tough on the border.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hey, anyone who.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Wants to reflexively, you know, shoot down or disagree with
what I'm saying would have to explain why Kamala Harris
is now saying she's in favor of a wall. Everybody, Okay,
they can see where the country is on this, that's right.
Kamala Harris isn't just in favor of comprehensive immigration reform.
(02:38):
She has come out in favor of a wall, although
she may come out against it tomorrow or have some
surrogates say she's against it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, it changes every day. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Clay, Let's start with this though. Now you and I
are looking at the same thing over the weekend. This
is this is good stuff. New York Times headline, Trump
and Harris neck and neck after summer upheaval, Times Siena
poll finds Now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I think this is a very interesting headline.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Because what it actually shows is that Donald Trump, in
terms of the national vote right now, right, if the
twenty twenty four presidential election we're held today, who would
you vote for nationwide? Pole forty eight percent, Trump forty
seven percent. Kamala Harris. We can get into and I
know you want to, so we will in a second.
(03:29):
Here more of a deep dive into these numbers. But Clay,
the Kamala campaign was all premised on creating this false
narrative and hoping the sort of the air leaves that
balloon slowly enough that they could fool people in this election.
I think this balloon's running out of air really fast.
(03:49):
I think people are seeing what's going on. The Democrats
are in a quiet panic.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, we've been telling people for the last couple of weeks.
You were on it before I was, but that that
the data had been reflecting that the Kamala surge, the
sugar high, the honeymoon of Oh look, Joe Biden, ancient
dementia riddled president is no longer our nominee. Now we've
(04:13):
got Kamala Harrison. It's a brat summer, and there's joy,
and there's happiness. It's all gone. She didn't get a
boost from the convention because I think she had gotten
the boost from just merely not being Biden. The RFK
Junior Tulsea Gabbert editions, I think have been very important
for Trump in terms of expanding the base. And this
(04:38):
is important because Trump isn't just doing well in battleground states,
which we knew was going to be the case, but
he's also leading, according to the New York Times, in
potentially the actual popular vote, and given that the Midwest
in particular is a couple of points behind where the
popular vote is because Democrats tend to run up margins
(05:02):
in California and historically places like New York and Massachusetts
and whatnot. The Northeast and California provide much of the
bulwark to the Democrat Party when it comes to the
national vote. If Trump wins the popular vote, this election's
not going to be close. And there have been signs
we talked about last week. Kamala Harris deciding to begin
(05:26):
her campaign after Labor Day in New Hampshire should have
set up a little bit of a warning sign to
many out there about what her internal polls were showing.
Because Biden won New Hampshire by seven points in twenty twenty,
and New Hampshire is one of the most reliable states
out there because they essentially require on election day voting.
(05:49):
There isn't very much absentee voting in New Hampshire. Everybody
has to show up in person, present ID. It's a
good barometer for how the nation will vote, and it's
very secure election. We talked about buck Virginia. The fact
that there have continued to be polls coming out showing
Kamala just a couple of points up in Virginia, a
(06:10):
state that Joe Biden won by ten. There are lots
of ominous signs out there, and with the debate happening tomorrow.
I think Trump needs to be smart about how he
behaves in the debate. I think, and I'm curious how
you would analyze this. The way that you perform in
a debate if you're winning is different than if you're behind.
(06:32):
If you're winning, you want to come out, show confidence,
be above the fray to a large extent, show that
you are presidential. If you're losing, you need to drag
somebody down into the mud with you. You need to
make it messy often times because you're trying to make
up ground. Trump, to me, buck is the equivalent we
just had the NFL start. Trump has the ball and
(06:55):
he's winning. When you have the ball and you're winning,
you just run the off tackle, plays, economy, border crime.
He's got the issues on his side, he's got the
clock on his side. He doesn't need to upset the
trajectory of this race. He just needs to bring it home, baby,
because everything is working in his favor right now. I
also think it's funny that the Kamala campaign has complained
(07:18):
about the muting of mikes, which was in agreed to rule.
I do think that that is going to be to
Trump's benefit because Kamala posing as Oh, I'm a woman
and he's interrupting me because he's a bully or whatever. Yes,
that's her most obvious play.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I know that for people who pay attention to
politics and know what's going on, who.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Could care about that?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
There'll be people who tune in who and this isn't
I'm not disparaging anybody who's in this category. You know,
they're just trying to pay their bills and live their lives,
and they don't really focus much on politics, and they
don't really have particularly strong opinions. And those kinds of
optics or vibes or whatever you want to say, those
tech those perceptions of trump deportment, of Trump treatment of
(08:04):
his opponent could be meaningful.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think that's pretty much off the table. I totally
agree that if.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Trump runs this thing as though he is he's the
elder statesman, which he is, the elder statesman in the room,
and the guy who is serious and wants to get
back to business here best possible thing. I also think
that Trump liked all the praise that he got pretty
universally from the Biden debate. You know, yeah, he likes
to do it however he wants to do it. But
(08:31):
he also likes to win, I think, more than anything else.
So I'm expecting him to be pretty. You know, it's
always a variation of Trump, right. It's not the way
you or I or anyone listening would debate Kamala Harris.
I think you'll have a pretty dialed in Donald Trump tomorrow.
I don't expect him to go fly off the handle
a bit and just back if I can clay to
the poland for a second, you're what's his name, Nate Silver?
(08:57):
Ye see this, Yeah, he's got it. He has thought
according to the five thirty eight twenty eight what is it?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Five to twenty eight? He used to have five thirty
eight now he has the thirty independent site. Five thirty
eight is still owned by ABC News. I think. But
he's got I think, and we had him on the
show a couple of weeks ago. He's got the most reliable,
I think, analytical based analysis of the presidential polling that
is out there, and to your point, Buck, it is
very favorable to Trump. Right now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He's got Trump winning now over a sixty percent chance
of Trump winning, and just a couple of weeks ago
he had Kamala winning. So something has changed. Look, we've
told you this for a while now, and this is
why that initial rush from oh it's not Biden, and
the exhilaration and the media all standing around together in
(09:46):
Unison in a way that was truly Pravda esque. I
mean it was Soviet in the way that they were all.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Just Oh, it's amazing Kamala Harris, he's so great.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They've been hiding her from the public. We all see
what's going on here. She's done one interview in what
forty days or something like this. I mean, it's it's blaringly,
glaringly However, you want to say, it's very obvious that
Kamala Harris is trying to pretend she's something she's not,
just so she can win the election and she can
go back to being a San Francisco progressive. Okay, that's
(10:19):
what's happening, and I think people are catching on a
little bit. And also she's just not good at the
blocking and tackling, if you will, of yeah, presidential campaigning,
because she's also not doing it right. She's not good
at it, and she's so not good at it that
she's not doing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It, did you see buck, And we can dive into
this a little bit too. Did you see that they
went after college football fans in the Midwest with banners
to fly over the stadiums during the Big Ten games,
including one that said Jade Vance loves Ohio State flying
over during the Michigan Texas game. They know the bids
(10:57):
and that's actually pretty funny. I just that's actually I
do think it's pretty funny, But I actually think it
it is evidence that they are really kind of panicked
because I'm telling you, I know these people. They show
up for Penn State games, they show up for Michigan,
Michigan State games, Wisconsin. I'm gonna be in Wisconsin this weekend.
I cannot wait. I'm gonna be at the Alabama Wisconsin
(11:19):
game in Madison for with my family. Buck. They are
panicked because the older white male and female voter that
they need to rely on to be able to turn
out that Biden had appeal to she doesn't have the
appeal to them. And they knew that, and they went
and grabbed Tim Walls, who's an awkward, not reflective, normal dude. Right.
(11:43):
They tried anytime you try to sell somebody as oh,
the middle part of the country is gonna like him,
I live in the middle part of the country. I
look around and I say, we feel like we're being
sort of mocked and ridiculed by you trying to claim
see there's people like us who like you too. I'm
telling you, they're starting to panic in the Midwest. And
she was already doing poorly in Arizona. She's not winning.
(12:06):
The one thing I feel very confident about Buck is
I know the South. She's not winning North Carolina, she's
not winning Georgia. And if she doesn't win North Carolina
and Georgia, and I really don't think she is, she
is in a tough spot. It means if he wins Pennsylvania, Trump,
it doesn't even matter what happens in Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada,
or Arizona. We want to win all those states. But
(12:29):
if she wins, if he wins North Carolina and Georgia,
the map is almost impossible for her at that point.
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want to hit this because I think it's important. As
we sit here on the eve of the debate. You
(14:51):
mentioned Nate Silverbuck, and I want to hit people with
where exactly he sees this race. We mentioned New York
Times forty eight forty seven in favor of Trump. Another
poll came out today Kamala Harris Donald Trump fifty to
fifty from Harvard Harris. So that's two poles basically saying
(15:13):
dead even dead even is good for Trump because in general,
debt evenness in the race nationwide is very good in
the battleground states.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I'm just gonna say, if you look at where Trump
is now at this stage of a presidential election, and
this is why the Libs who know are concerned. Okay,
the Kammies are getting worried here and Clay, it's because
Trump is in a better position now than he was
in twenty twenty or in twenty six correct.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Important to point that out here is Nate Silver. Trump
just hit a new high in his poll in his
prediction sixty four percent that he thinks Trump's gonna win,
thirty six percent for Kamala. Here's the swing states he's
now got Trump seventy five twenty five. These are percentage
chances to win North Carolina sixty eight percent, chance to win,
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Georgia sixty one percent, chance to win Nevada seventy seven percent,
chance to win in Arizona. And then in the so
called blue wall states sixty four percent chance Trump wins Pennsylvania,
fifty four percent chance Trump wins Michigan, fifty three percent
chance Trump wins Wisconsin. Right now, he has Trump sweeping
(16:31):
all seven of the so called battleground states, which would
be incredible lot of work to do, Buck, But that's
the absolute latest forecast from Nate Silver.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I also think one part of this that we all
we have to keep in mind. Normally there would be
the big October surprise coming against Trump, and there may
be something this time, although they've pushed back the sentencing, right,
so that was the one that we were all expecting. Clay,
They've thrown so much at Trump at this point. I
just making light of this at all, of course, because
it was horrific and it was a gut punch to
(17:03):
the nation that had happened. But they shot him. I
mean he got shot over the summer, Okay, he took
a bullet through the ear. He's been through four criminal indictments,
one criminal trial completed. What could an October surprise even
be from the Democrat apparatus at this point, I know,
I just feel like there's no way for them to
(17:23):
turn the momentum in the other direction. So each day
that Kamala is slipping is that's points they're never going
to get back.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No doubt. Early voting starting soon. Also, Bucket's important. She's
the incumbent, so October surprises tend to work against the incumbent.
In other words, if something awful happens and things get
worse in the country, nobody's going to look around and say, oh,
you know who's to blame for this. It's the party
that's been out of power for almost four years. Kamala
(17:51):
is in trouble, and again Trump has got the ball.
He is in the lead. Just needs to run off
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
So a lot going on here with the prep for
the debate. We're going to get into more of that.
We've got our I'm trying to think of who is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Kosh Ptel one thirty and Lisa Booth two thirty coming
down the pike in the next couple of hours, ready
to bury it. Didn't even need to stretch. He's out
there on the field. He's going.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So, you know, I think that what we're going to
see is unlikely to have the kind of a well,
it's not gonna have the effect that it had against Biden,
for sure, but it's an opportunity if Trump shows in
my mind, Clay, if Trump shows up ahead after that
pull another point or two. It's feeling very good. And
(19:40):
by the way, please, I know that I get more
messages now about well, what about the cheating and what
about the cheating? And if they cheat and they beat
us this time, we deserve to lose if we don't
catch it and stop it. That's how that's how I
feel about it. You know, I didn't say if they
cheat we deserve to lose. Is that if they cheat
and we don't catch it and they get away with it,
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we deserve to lose. We've got we talked to Chairman
Wattley of the R and C. He said they're all
over this. He said, they've got an army of poll watchers.
He said, they've got an army of lawyers. We have
every you know, you know what I mean, like fool
me once, as Bush said, can't get fooled again. And
I would encourage all of you to do what my
wife Laura did, who was fired up about election security.
(20:23):
She is volunteering in our local poll and I'll be
working there.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah. She spent yeah at she'll be there on election day.
She got trained, she is she is ready to go.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And also when we had Wattley on at the RNC.
He told all of you, we appreciate the emails we
really do to us saying hey, you need to let
people know they're going to cheat, they're going to try
to rig the election, all these things. We appreciate it.
But what would be better than you emailing Buck and
me is if you out there could make the decision
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to volunteer yourself to help with election security. And the
RNC is signing people up left and right, particularly if
you have the time. Some of you are lawyers and
you want to be poll watchers. They are desperately asking
for you to be involved. So if you truly care
about the sanctity and security of the election, the best
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thing you can do is give your labor over to
the RNC to help ensure we have fair and faithful
and secure elections. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I mean, the Trump team, legally speaking, was outmaneuvered by
the twenty twenty COVID stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well we don't have COVID now, okay, But the.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Way that the laws were changed or even broken, I
would argue in some states to allow voting patterns that
would be more favorable to Democrats. There's been plenty of
time to challenge all that, plenty of time to get
in front of you know, it's what happened in twenty
twenty in part and please don't tell me, but what
about this and what about that? I don't have six
hours to talk about this right now. Part of it was, hey,
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they did this. They shouldn't have allowed those votes to
be in in that way that they at the time
were allowed to be cast. Once votes are cast and
people have been told, you're allowed to cast them that way,
even if it violates the state constitution, as I believe
it did in Pennsylvania, to have it's very you're just
not going to get a judge to be like, well,
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people voted in good faith, so that doesn't matter. We're
just gonna say it didn't count. They're just not gonna
do it. And I remember I said that at the time.
My point here isn't oh but nothing matters. My point
is they've got to get ahead of it. They've got
time to get ahead of it. They've had four years.
I'm not saying that we won't see shenanigans. I'm saying
we need to be ready for it. And going into
this with well, they're gonna cheat we're not. We don't
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sit and cry in advance of seeing what the scoreboard
is run. Let's beat the cheat and run the scoreboard
up so high that it would be laughable to think
that Donald Trump hasn't won this election.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and let's expand the number of states where we
are putting them in play. This is why I mentioned
New Hampshire and Virginia. Everybody focused on Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
deservedly so, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. But keeping
a lot of states within a close margin makes it
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really hard. The great analogy, or the great sort of
metaphor for this, which you've seen in cartoons forever, is
the guy who's trying to plug the dam that starts
to pop with a bunch of different holes in it,
you know the cartoon. That is what needs to happen
in twenty twenty four, and we are now the race itself.
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Even if you talk to the most diehard Democrat, it's
all on Democrat Party. Twenty twenty twenty one states, with
the exception of North Carolina, the other six agreed upon battlegrounds,
and we could expand it to again New Hampshire into Virginia.
All of the battlegrounds are Democrats having to defend. Right now,
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North Carolina. I feel like a lot of you listening
in North Carolina is going to go red. Got to
show up and vote, got to do everything. But Trump
won North Carolina in twenty sixteen, he won North Carolina
in twenty twenty. I don't think that suddenly Kamala Harris
is gonna win in twenty twenty four. A lot of
work to be done, but that's the only state buck
that they're even spending money on. That is a quote
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unquote red state from twenty twenty. Every other battleground state,
blue state that Biden won that Kamala is trying to defend,
they're on their back heel. We just got to pour
on more steam here, and that's what I think the
elect the debate tomorrow can do. If Trump shows up
and delivers a solid performance. We'll get into this more
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when it happens. But I just have been thinking about
it a bunch already. If Trump wins this debate tomorrow,
I don't think he should. I don't think he should
debate again because Kamala's going You're gonna know that he
has won because of not only with the Pole show,
but then the campaign, the Kamala campaign will be open
to suddenly she's going to show up, desperate, begging for
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another opportunity to change the trajectory. And if I'm Trump
at that point, I just said, no, why we did
this once? You know that's all you agreed to, and
you know I'm not playing this game anymore. And she
can go around and whine because the whining at that
point would be obvious to everybody, is just a function
of she knows she's losing. I mean, here's the the
neck and neck narrative and the oh, it's so close.
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Two weeks ago, it was Kamala's winning in every swing state. Haha,
Kamala is going to win Comma. You know that was
the story from the media. The only reason they're saying
it's neck and neck now is because they want everyone
to think it's very, very close and not. Oh so,
Kamala is losing ground and Trump is gaining ground with
each passing day, which is what is actually happening. Did
(25:53):
you see the paydic though when the New York Times
poll came out because they knew they know the New
York Times is not rigged in favor of Trump. The
left wing panic when they came out yesterday and showed
Trump up forty eight forty seven, up two points in
a multi candidate field, by the way, was legion. They
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are nervous, they're afraid, they know that Kamala has tried
to hide. They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying
to move the needle. And this is where to your point, Buck,
I think they're so challenged and why an October surprise
would be so difficult. Everybody knows what they think about
Donald Trump. Everybody knows. You've had since twenty fifteen to
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decide where you are and what you think about Donald Trump.
And to me, the most interesting part of the New
York Times poll, Buck, was that Trump is at all
time favorability highs in the New York Times poll. They
have spent nine years attacking him with everything they've got.
They tried to put him in prison in New York,
South Florida, d C. Georgia. They tried to bankrupt him,
(27:05):
They charged him with inappropriate behavior from over twenty years ago.
They changed the statute of limitations to allow these lawsuits
to even exist, and after all that buck, after billions
of dollars they have spent, Trump is more popular as
we are talking to you right now than he ever
has been in his entire political career. And to your point,
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based on all the polling, he's in better shape right
now than he ever was in twenty sixteen or twenty
twenty as we get ready to start voting.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
One of my biggest concerns with the way that they
have waged the law fair campaign against Trump has been
all along the precedent that it sets, and everyone has
talked about the crossing of the rubicon because it is
something that we have never seen before. I truly mean
this to me. The only way to even try to
(27:58):
put that genie back in the bottle is for Donald
Trump to win this election and therefore for it to
be a clear rejection of the lawfair tactic to try
to win a presidential election, to have left wing Democrat
prosecutors and a left wing Democrat judge and a left
(28:20):
wing Democrat jury come up with some just absurd, absurd
case and you know, criminal allegation, all this stuff. If
Donald Trump loses, it's going to be hard not to
think that this won't be replicated in the future. If
Donald Trump wins, I think it will at least be
something of a rebuke to the lawfair narrative, which is
(28:42):
really important. Honestly goes beyond even just Trump in this election.
It goes to the future of the country.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So I think it also Buck to your point, not
just law fair. I think if Trump wins, the entire
concept of identity politics is going to have to get
re examined by Kamala Harris because she is the ultimate
DEI candidate black woman that supposedly is going to unite
all the different people of various ethnic groups in America
(29:08):
and bring him out to the polls and take back
control of the country from awful old white men like
Donald Trump who are racist. And I think if she loses,
I really do Buck. I think they're going to have
to go back and recalibrate that stuff. I don't think so, man.
I think they just need a better minority politician. I
just think that might be true, But who is that person.
(29:28):
The one thing I think they certainly have done is
they underrated Barack Obama's talent as a minority politician or
as a politician period. Loo Corey Booker tried it. Kamala
Harris has tried it. There have been a bunch of
people who have tried to pick up the Barack Obama mantle,
and they're just not anywhere near as likable or charismatic
or in frankly, I think, intelligent as he was. And
(29:51):
I don't think Barack Obamas are easy to replace, just
like Ronald Reagan's are not easy to replace. It's hard
to find really talented politicians. Comparing Obama and Reagan. Hey,
we got calls coming in. In terms of the actual
appeal of the nation, I think there have been three
really yeah, three really talented politicians in the last forty years, Reagan, Clinton,
(30:17):
and Obama. Seriously, George the vote, but he was a
supremely talented politician. Oh that's what you know. I sus
was telling you in the nineties. No, no, no, no,
you have to he was a He would have won. Look,
here's a good example. There are three presidents in my
(30:38):
life that if they could have run for a third term,
they would have won. Reagan would have won in eighty eight.
Clinton would have won in two thousand. Obama would have
won in sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Clinton's win in two thousand leading into September eleventh, because
it would have happened on his watch, would have changed
the entire reality of the Clinton presidency. And also if
he had to deal with the stock market crash that came,
because the stock market boom from the Internet was really
what gave the Clinton economy the whole Oh my.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Gosh, it's amazing. But but but you, but you and
Bill good was people? Was he good at kissing baby?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I mean, you know, was he good at doing the
things that he did? I'm just you know, there's nobody
else you and I are have been alive basically for
every election since eighty There's only three presidents that could
have won a third term. I think since nineteen eighty
those are the three. I mean, I think, yeah, I
think Bill Clinton might have won a third term. But
I think that would have been that would have changed
(31:31):
the narrative in a lot of ways. But anyway, we
you know, a historical historical change up. We'll come back
to this with more of your calls here in just
a second.
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you get your podcasts. We're gonna get into this Springfield, Ohio,
cats getting eat ducks, get into taken out of the
parks and having their heads chopped off. All of the
illegal immigrants that have come into the country. We're going
(34:06):
to get into this at the top of the next hour.
And if you are in the Springfield, Ohio area, we
want to take your calls. Eight hundred and two eight
two two eight a two. What are you actually seeing there?
I just want to point out they're actually not even illegals,
They're migrants that the Biden Harris administration just decided without
(34:29):
any laterally, just use their power unilaterally. You get to
stay in the country. If you get here, you cannot
be deported, which obviously means people will just come here. Right,
we will dive in.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Is we got it? Do you want to take this
call from Yeah, let's take it. Neil in Findlay, Ohio.
You're close to Springfield, Ohio. What are you hearing about?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Well, we hear that going on down there, but we
also have it going on here. Nobody talks about it.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
What's going on? We have?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
We have thousands of patients here in town. They've taken
over multiple hotels, They're everywhere. Everybody they're causing problems for
a lot of people, causing problems at the grocery stores,
the walmarts, the hospital, everything.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
But are people noticing it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
In one of the things, there's all these people that
have showed up at like a town council or city
council meeting. They're saying, you know, overcrowded, public services, police
overwhelmed just with the day to day calls of dealing
with this. You're having the same thing.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, a lot of that as far as what the
police have witnessed that. A lot of that is hidden
from us, so we don't hear that. But we haven't
heard they're bringing more of them here, but they're saying
they're bringing them here of course to work, but they are,
They're everywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Not a lot of work. We're going to play a
bunch of the audio from the Springfield area for what
they're dealing with. I was just laughing, Buck because the
memes of Trump and cats right now, Trump's saving cats
and geese. There is a picture of Trump surrounded by cats.
It says, I am your voice, I am your warrior,
(36:06):
I am your justice, I am your retribution, And it's
just Trump's speaking.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Everyone knows why I mean this is I mean, and look,
you guys know how I feel about my dog and
dogs and I have total respect the cat. Cat lovers
have the same relationship with their cats.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
The reports are that some of these migrants are catching
people's cats and eating.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Them, skinning them and eating them like as a meal.
They had a woman arrested. They had a woman arrested
for taking a house cat and trying to eat it.
I can't believe this is the real world we're in.
We're gonna talk about this and more when we come
back out Number two Clay and buff
Welcome everybody, Monday edition of the Clay Travis n Bucks
Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Get's going right now.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
It is a big week everyone. We are excited to
be here with you talking about it. Debate night tomorrow night.
A lot of preparation talk, strategizing, tactical analysis and all
the rest of it going on today and tomorrow. We
will dive into that for sure. Also on x elon
(00:30):
Musk social media platform that is I think going to
play an increasingly large role in this election as people
get closer and closer to casting their votes because the
media can't shut down narratives. The situation of Springfield, Ohio,
which according to reports had about forty eight or fifty
(00:53):
thousand residents and has had twenty thousand Haitian sign lee's
essentially and people that are brought here under an emergency
order but just allowed into the country, no vetting, no nothing,
And there's a lot of stuff going around social media
about just the strain on public resources and what this
(01:14):
means for the town, the disorder, the crimes that are
being committed, all of it. So we'll get into that.
And there are allegations that are also flying around about
some of the migrants killing ducks in public parks. I mean,
this is really is this is being said.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I just want to be clear on the record in
public forums, and I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Killing duck, like they go up to it and chop
its head off and they start roasting it in the
park with like people pushing strollers by and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
This is what's being said right now. We'll get into this.
There's videos, there's people reporting this.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, we'll discuss this because it brings up once again,
not only are migrants affecting cities like New York, Chicago,
et cetera, but in small cities, either the government decides
or perhaps the migrants aside themselves to congregate in large
numbers and it puts a tremendous resource burden on that
(02:12):
city such that Remember Democrats are now pretending to be
tough on the border.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hey, anyone who.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Wants to reflexively, you know, shoot down or disagree with
what I'm saying would have to explain why Kamala Harris
is now saying she's in favor of a wall. Everybody, Okay,
they can see where the country is on this, that's right.
Kamala Harris isn't just in favor of comprehensive immigration reform.
(02:38):
She has come out in favor of a wall, although
she may come out against it tomorrow or have some
surrogates say she's against it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, it changes every day. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Clay, Let's start with this though. Now you and I
are looking at the same thing over the weekend. This
is this is good stuff. New York Times headline, Trump
and Harris neck and neck after summer upheaval, Times Siena
poll finds Now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I think this is a very interesting headline.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Because what it actually shows is that Donald Trump, in
terms of the national vote right now, right, if the
twenty twenty four presidential election we're held today, who would
you vote for nationwide? Pole forty eight percent, Trump forty
seven percent. Kamala Harris. We can get into and I
know you want to, so we will in a second.
(03:29):
Here more of a deep dive into these numbers. But Clay,
the Kamala campaign was all premised on creating this false
narrative and hoping the sort of the air leaves that
balloon slowly enough that they could fool people in this election.
I think this balloon's running out of air really fast.
(03:49):
I think people are seeing what's going on. The Democrats
are in a quiet panic.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, we've been telling people for the last couple of weeks.
You were on it before I was, but that that
the data had been reflecting that the Kamala surge, the
sugar high, the honeymoon of Oh look, Joe Biden, ancient
dementia riddled president is no longer our nominee. Now we've
(04:13):
got Kamala Harrison. It's a brat summer, and there's joy,
and there's happiness. It's all gone. She didn't get a
boost from the convention because I think she had gotten
the boost from just merely not being Biden. The RFK
Junior Tulsea Gabbert editions, I think have been very important
for Trump in terms of expanding the base. And this
(04:38):
is important because Trump isn't just doing well in battleground states,
which we knew was going to be the case, but
he's also leading, according to the New York Times, in
potentially the actual popular vote, and given that the Midwest
in particular is a couple of points behind where the
popular vote is because Democrats tend to run up margins
(05:02):
in California and historically places like New York and Massachusetts
and whatnot. The Northeast and California provide much of the
bulwark to the Democrat Party when it comes to the
national vote. If Trump wins the popular vote, this election's
not going to be close. And there have been signs
we talked about last week. Kamala Harris deciding to begin
(05:26):
her campaign after Labor Day in New Hampshire should have
set up a little bit of a warning sign to
many out there about what her internal polls were showing.
Because Biden won New Hampshire by seven points in twenty twenty,
and New Hampshire is one of the most reliable states
out there because they essentially require on election day voting.
(05:49):
There isn't very much absentee voting in New Hampshire. Everybody
has to show up in person, present ID. It's a
good barometer for how the nation will vote, and it's
very secure election. We talked about buck Virginia. The fact
that there have continued to be polls coming out showing
Kamala just a couple of points up in Virginia, a
(06:10):
state that Joe Biden won by ten. There are lots
of ominous signs out there, and with the debate happening tomorrow.
I think Trump needs to be smart about how he
behaves in the debate. I think, and I'm curious how
you would analyze this. The way that you perform in
a debate if you're winning is different than if you're behind.
(06:32):
If you're winning, you want to come out, show confidence,
be above the fray to a large extent, show that
you are presidential. If you're losing, you need to drag
somebody down into the mud with you. You need to
make it messy often times because you're trying to make
up ground. Trump, to me, buck is the equivalent we
just had the NFL start. Trump has the ball and
(06:55):
he's winning. When you have the ball and you're winning,
you just run the off tackle, plays, economy, border crime.
He's got the issues on his side, he's got the
clock on his side. He doesn't need to upset the
trajectory of this race. He just needs to bring it home, baby,
because everything is working in his favor right now. I
also think it's funny that the Kamala campaign has complained
(07:18):
about the muting of mikes, which was in agreed to rule.
I do think that that is going to be to
Trump's benefit because Kamala posing as Oh, I'm a woman
and he's interrupting me because he's a bully or whatever. Yes,
that's her most obvious play.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I know that for people who pay attention to
politics and know what's going on, who.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Could care about that?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
There'll be people who tune in who and this isn't
I'm not disparaging anybody who's in this category. You know,
they're just trying to pay their bills and live their lives,
and they don't really focus much on politics, and they
don't really have particularly strong opinions. And those kinds of
optics or vibes or whatever you want to say, those
tech those perceptions of trump deportment, of Trump treatment of
(08:04):
his opponent could be meaningful.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think that's pretty much off the table. I totally
agree that if.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Trump runs this thing as though he is he's the
elder statesman, which he is, the elder statesman in the room,
and the guy who is serious and wants to get
back to business here best possible thing. I also think
that Trump liked all the praise that he got pretty
universally from the Biden debate. You know, yeah, he likes
to do it however he wants to do it. But
(08:31):
he also likes to win, I think, more than anything else.
So I'm expecting him to be pretty. You know, it's
always a variation of Trump, right. It's not the way
you or I or anyone listening would debate Kamala Harris.
I think you'll have a pretty dialed in Donald Trump tomorrow.
I don't expect him to go fly off the handle
a bit and just back if I can clay to
the poland for a second, you're what's his name, Nate Silver?
(08:57):
Ye see this, Yeah, he's got it. He has thought
according to the five thirty eight twenty eight what is it?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Five to twenty eight? He used to have five thirty
eight now he has the thirty independent site. Five thirty
eight is still owned by ABC News. I think. But
he's got I think, and we had him on the
show a couple of weeks ago. He's got the most reliable,
I think, analytical based analysis of the presidential polling that
is out there, and to your point, Buck, it is
very favorable to Trump. Right now.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
He's got Trump winning now over a sixty percent chance
of Trump winning, and just a couple of weeks ago
he had Kamala winning. So something has changed. Look, we've
told you this for a while now, and this is
why that initial rush from oh it's not Biden, and
the exhilaration and the media all standing around together in
(09:46):
Unison in a way that was truly Pravda esque. I
mean it was Soviet in the way that they were all.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Just Oh, it's amazing Kamala Harris, he's so great.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They've been hiding her from the public. We all see
what's going on here. She's done one interview in what
forty days or something like this. I mean, it's it's blaringly,
glaringly However, you want to say, it's very obvious that
Kamala Harris is trying to pretend she's something she's not,
just so she can win the election and she can
go back to being a San Francisco progressive. Okay, that's
(10:19):
what's happening, and I think people are catching on a
little bit. And also she's just not good at the
blocking and tackling, if you will, of yeah, presidential campaigning,
because she's also not doing it right. She's not good
at it, and she's so not good at it that
she's not doing.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It, did you see buck, And we can dive into
this a little bit too. Did you see that they
went after college football fans in the Midwest with banners
to fly over the stadiums during the Big Ten games,
including one that said Jade Vance loves Ohio State flying
over during the Michigan Texas game. They know the bids
(10:57):
and that's actually pretty funny. I just that's actually I
do think it's pretty funny, But I actually think it
it is evidence that they are really kind of panicked
because I'm telling you, I know these people. They show
up for Penn State games, they show up for Michigan,
Michigan State games, Wisconsin. I'm gonna be in Wisconsin this weekend.
I cannot wait. I'm gonna be at the Alabama Wisconsin
(11:19):
game in Madison for with my family. Buck. They are
panicked because the older white male and female voter that
they need to rely on to be able to turn
out that Biden had appeal to she doesn't have the
appeal to them. And they knew that, and they went
and grabbed Tim Walls, who's an awkward, not reflective, normal dude. Right.
(11:43):
They tried anytime you try to sell somebody as oh,
the middle part of the country is gonna like him,
I live in the middle part of the country. I
look around and I say, we feel like we're being
sort of mocked and ridiculed by you trying to claim
see there's people like us who like you too. I'm
telling you, they're starting to panic in the Midwest. And
she was already doing poorly in Arizona. She's not winning.
(12:06):
The one thing I feel very confident about Buck is
I know the South. She's not winning North Carolina, she's
not winning Georgia. And if she doesn't win North Carolina
and Georgia, and I really don't think she is, she
is in a tough spot. It means if he wins Pennsylvania, Trump,
it doesn't even matter what happens in Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada,
or Arizona. We want to win all those states. But
(12:29):
if she wins, if he wins North Carolina and Georgia,
the map is almost impossible for her at that point.
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want to hit this because I think it's important. As
we sit here on the eve of the debate. You
(14:51):
mentioned Nate Silverbuck, and I want to hit people with
where exactly he sees this race. We mentioned New York
Times forty eight forty seven in favor of Trump. Another
poll came out today Kamala Harris Donald Trump fifty to
fifty from Harvard Harris. So that's two poles basically saying
(15:13):
dead even dead even is good for Trump because in general,
debt evenness in the race nationwide is very good in
the battleground states.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I'm just gonna say, if you look at where Trump
is now at this stage of a presidential election, and
this is why the Libs who know are concerned. Okay,
the Kammies are getting worried here and Clay, it's because
Trump is in a better position now than he was
in twenty twenty or in twenty six correct.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Important to point that out here is Nate Silver. Trump
just hit a new high in his poll in his
prediction sixty four percent that he thinks Trump's gonna win,
thirty six percent for Kamala. Here's the swing states he's
now got Trump seventy five twenty five. These are percentage
chances to win North Carolina sixty eight percent, chance to win,
(16:06):
Georgia sixty one percent, chance to win Nevada seventy seven percent,
chance to win in Arizona. And then in the so
called blue wall states sixty four percent chance Trump wins Pennsylvania,
fifty four percent chance Trump wins Michigan, fifty three percent
chance Trump wins Wisconsin. Right now, he has Trump sweeping
(16:31):
all seven of the so called battleground states, which would
be incredible lot of work to do, Buck, But that's
the absolute latest forecast from Nate Silver.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I also think one part of this that we all
we have to keep in mind. Normally there would be
the big October surprise coming against Trump, and there may
be something this time, although they've pushed back the sentencing, right,
so that was the one that we were all expecting. Clay,
They've thrown so much at Trump at this point. I
just making light of this at all, of course, because
it was horrific and it was a gut punch to
(17:03):
the nation that had happened. But they shot him. I
mean he got shot over the summer, Okay, he took
a bullet through the ear. He's been through four criminal indictments,
one criminal trial completed. What could an October surprise even
be from the Democrat apparatus at this point, I know,
I just feel like there's no way for them to
(17:23):
turn the momentum in the other direction. So each day
that Kamala is slipping is that's points they're never going
to get back.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
No doubt. Early voting starting soon. Also, Bucket's important. She's
the incumbent, so October surprises tend to work against the incumbent.
In other words, if something awful happens and things get
worse in the country, nobody's going to look around and say, oh,
you know who's to blame for this. It's the party
that's been out of power for almost four years. Kamala
(17:51):
is in trouble, and again Trump has got the ball.
He is in the lead. Just needs to run off
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So a lot going on here with the prep for
the debate. We're going to get into more of that.
We've got our I'm trying to think of who is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Kosh Ptel one thirty and Lisa Booth two thirty coming
down the pike in the next couple of hours, ready
to bury it. Didn't even need to stretch. He's out
there on the field. He's going.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
So, you know, I think that what we're going to
see is unlikely to have the kind of a well,
it's not gonna have the effect that it had against Biden,
for sure, but it's an opportunity if Trump shows in
my mind, Clay, if Trump shows up ahead after that
pull another point or two. It's feeling very good. And
(19:40):
by the way, please, I know that I get more
messages now about well, what about the cheating and what
about the cheating? And if they cheat and they beat
us this time, we deserve to lose if we don't
catch it and stop it. That's how that's how I
feel about it. You know, I didn't say if they
cheat we deserve to lose. Is that if they cheat
and we don't catch it and they get away with it,
(20:00):
we deserve to lose. We've got we talked to Chairman
Wattley of the R and C. He said they're all
over this. He said, they've got an army of poll watchers.
He said, they've got an army of lawyers. We have
every you know, you know what I mean, like fool
me once, as Bush said, can't get fooled again. And
I would encourage all of you to do what my
wife Laura did, who was fired up about election security.
(20:23):
She is volunteering in our local poll and I'll be
working there.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah. She spent yeah at she'll be there on election day.
She got trained, she is she is ready to go.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And also when we had Wattley on at the RNC.
He told all of you, we appreciate the emails we
really do to us saying hey, you need to let
people know they're going to cheat, they're going to try
to rig the election, all these things. We appreciate it.
But what would be better than you emailing Buck and
me is if you out there could make the decision
(20:59):
to volunteer yourself to help with election security. And the
RNC is signing people up left and right, particularly if
you have the time. Some of you are lawyers and
you want to be poll watchers. They are desperately asking
for you to be involved. So if you truly care
about the sanctity and security of the election, the best
(21:21):
thing you can do is give your labor over to
the RNC to help ensure we have fair and faithful
and secure elections. I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I mean, the Trump team, legally speaking, was outmaneuvered by
the twenty twenty COVID stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well we don't have COVID now, okay, But the.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Way that the laws were changed or even broken, I
would argue in some states to allow voting patterns that
would be more favorable to Democrats. There's been plenty of
time to challenge all that, plenty of time to get
in front of you know, it's what happened in twenty
twenty in part and please don't tell me, but what
about this and what about that? I don't have six
hours to talk about this right now. Part of it was, hey,
(22:01):
they did this. They shouldn't have allowed those votes to
be in in that way that they at the time
were allowed to be cast. Once votes are cast and
people have been told, you're allowed to cast them that way,
even if it violates the state constitution, as I believe
it did in Pennsylvania, to have it's very you're just
not going to get a judge to be like, well,
(22:22):
people voted in good faith, so that doesn't matter. We're
just gonna say it didn't count. They're just not gonna
do it. And I remember I said that at the time.
My point here isn't oh but nothing matters. My point
is they've got to get ahead of it. They've got
time to get ahead of it. They've had four years.
I'm not saying that we won't see shenanigans. I'm saying
we need to be ready for it. And going into
this with well, they're gonna cheat we're not. We don't
(22:45):
sit and cry in advance of seeing what the scoreboard
is run. Let's beat the cheat and run the scoreboard
up so high that it would be laughable to think
that Donald Trump hasn't won this election.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and let's expand the number of states where we
are putting them in play. This is why I mentioned
New Hampshire and Virginia. Everybody focused on Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
deservedly so, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. But keeping
a lot of states within a close margin makes it
(23:19):
really hard. The great analogy, or the great sort of
metaphor for this, which you've seen in cartoons forever, is
the guy who's trying to plug the dam that starts
to pop with a bunch of different holes in it,
you know the cartoon. That is what needs to happen
in twenty twenty four, and we are now the race itself.
(23:40):
Even if you talk to the most diehard Democrat, it's
all on Democrat Party. Twenty twenty twenty one states, with
the exception of North Carolina, the other six agreed upon battlegrounds,
and we could expand it to again New Hampshire into Virginia.
All of the battlegrounds are Democrats having to defend. Right now,
(24:05):
North Carolina. I feel like a lot of you listening
in North Carolina is going to go red. Got to
show up and vote, got to do everything. But Trump
won North Carolina in twenty sixteen, he won North Carolina
in twenty twenty. I don't think that suddenly Kamala Harris
is gonna win in twenty twenty four. A lot of
work to be done, but that's the only state buck
that they're even spending money on. That is a quote
(24:26):
unquote red state from twenty twenty. Every other battleground state,
blue state that Biden won that Kamala is trying to defend,
they're on their back heel. We just got to pour
on more steam here, and that's what I think the
elect the debate tomorrow can do. If Trump shows up
and delivers a solid performance. We'll get into this more
(24:47):
when it happens. But I just have been thinking about
it a bunch already. If Trump wins this debate tomorrow,
I don't think he should. I don't think he should
debate again because Kamala's going You're gonna know that he
has won because of not only with the Pole show,
but then the campaign, the Kamala campaign will be open
to suddenly she's going to show up, desperate, begging for
(25:07):
another opportunity to change the trajectory. And if I'm Trump
at that point, I just said, no, why we did
this once? You know that's all you agreed to, and
you know I'm not playing this game anymore. And she
can go around and whine because the whining at that
point would be obvious to everybody, is just a function
of she knows she's losing. I mean, here's the the
neck and neck narrative and the oh, it's so close.
(25:32):
Two weeks ago, it was Kamala's winning in every swing state. Haha,
Kamala is going to win Comma. You know that was
the story from the media. The only reason they're saying
it's neck and neck now is because they want everyone
to think it's very, very close and not. Oh so,
Kamala is losing ground and Trump is gaining ground with
each passing day, which is what is actually happening. Did
(25:53):
you see the paydic though when the New York Times
poll came out because they knew they know the New
York Times is not rigged in favor of Trump. The
left wing panic when they came out yesterday and showed
Trump up forty eight forty seven, up two points in
a multi candidate field, by the way, was legion. They
(26:15):
are nervous, they're afraid, they know that Kamala has tried
to hide. They've spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying
to move the needle. And this is where to your point, Buck,
I think they're so challenged and why an October surprise
would be so difficult. Everybody knows what they think about
Donald Trump. Everybody knows. You've had since twenty fifteen to
(26:40):
decide where you are and what you think about Donald Trump.
And to me, the most interesting part of the New
York Times poll, Buck, was that Trump is at all
time favorability highs in the New York Times poll. They
have spent nine years attacking him with everything they've got.
They tried to put him in prison in New York,
South Florida, d C. Georgia. They tried to bankrupt him,
(27:05):
They charged him with inappropriate behavior from over twenty years ago.
They changed the statute of limitations to allow these lawsuits
to even exist, and after all that buck, after billions
of dollars they have spent, Trump is more popular as
we are talking to you right now than he ever
has been in his entire political career. And to your point,
(27:28):
based on all the polling, he's in better shape right
now than he ever was in twenty sixteen or twenty
twenty as we get ready to start voting.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
One of my biggest concerns with the way that they
have waged the law fair campaign against Trump has been
all along the precedent that it sets, and everyone has
talked about the crossing of the rubicon because it is
something that we have never seen before. I truly mean
this to me. The only way to even try to
(27:58):
put that genie back in the bottle is for Donald
Trump to win this election and therefore for it to
be a clear rejection of the lawfair tactic to try
to win a presidential election, to have left wing Democrat
prosecutors and a left wing Democrat judge and a left
(28:20):
wing Democrat jury come up with some just absurd, absurd
case and you know, criminal allegation, all this stuff. If
Donald Trump loses, it's going to be hard not to
think that this won't be replicated in the future. If
Donald Trump wins, I think it will at least be
something of a rebuke to the lawfair narrative, which is
(28:42):
really important. Honestly goes beyond even just Trump in this election.
It goes to the future of the country.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
So I think it also Buck to your point, not
just law fair. I think if Trump wins, the entire
concept of identity politics is going to have to get
re examined by Kamala Harris because she is the ultimate
DEI candidate black woman that supposedly is going to unite
all the different people of various ethnic groups in America
(29:08):
and bring him out to the polls and take back
control of the country from awful old white men like
Donald Trump who are racist. And I think if she loses,
I really do Buck. I think they're going to have
to go back and recalibrate that stuff. I don't think so, man.
I think they just need a better minority politician. I
just think that might be true, But who is that person.
(29:28):
The one thing I think they certainly have done is
they underrated Barack Obama's talent as a minority politician or
as a politician period. Loo Corey Booker tried it. Kamala
Harris has tried it. There have been a bunch of
people who have tried to pick up the Barack Obama mantle,
and they're just not anywhere near as likable or charismatic
or in frankly, I think, intelligent as he was. And
(29:51):
I don't think Barack Obamas are easy to replace, just
like Ronald Reagan's are not easy to replace. It's hard
to find really talented politicians. Comparing Obama and Reagan. Hey,
we got calls coming in. In terms of the actual
appeal of the nation, I think there have been three
really yeah, three really talented politicians in the last forty years, Reagan, Clinton,
(30:17):
and Obama. Seriously, George the vote, but he was a
supremely talented politician. Oh that's what you know. I sus
was telling you in the nineties. No, no, no, no,
you have to he was a He would have won. Look,
here's a good example. There are three presidents in my
(30:38):
life that if they could have run for a third term,
they would have won. Reagan would have won in eighty eight.
Clinton would have won in two thousand. Obama would have
won in sixteen.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Clinton's win in two thousand leading into September eleventh, because
it would have happened on his watch, would have changed
the entire reality of the Clinton presidency. And also if
he had to deal with the stock market crash that came,
because the stock market boom from the Internet was really
what gave the Clinton economy the whole Oh my.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Gosh, it's amazing. But but but you, but you and
Bill good was people? Was he good at kissing baby?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I mean, you know, was he good at doing the
things that he did? I'm just you know, there's nobody
else you and I are have been alive basically for
every election since eighty There's only three presidents that could
have won a third term. I think since nineteen eighty
those are the three. I mean, I think, yeah, I
think Bill Clinton might have won a third term. But
I think that would have been that would have changed
(31:31):
the narrative in a lot of ways. But anyway, we
you know, a historical historical change up. We'll come back
to this with more of your calls here in just
a second.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You know, energy is necessary to get things done, and
you gotta have enough stuff, So this is real, actually claim.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
We didn't talk about this, you know, NPR. There we
need to talk about the podcasted. They tested all the
NPR mail employees.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
These guys make the NPR employee ease, make Stelter from
CNN look like Schwarzenegger when he was making the Koonan movies.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Okay, you just got prize you that was this is
the permit story. Honestly, he surprised me at all these
guys at that FPR.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Some of them have tested their dudes technically they identify
I think as dudes too. They've got testosterone in like
the double digits the highest guy and they're like our age.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
They're not old there, they weren't how low they're testosterone.
The NPR staff has like an average testosteron level male
staff has like an average testostero level for all in
of like one hundred and twenty or something, which is
I mean normal is three hundred to one thousand. Anyway,
the charts lacking in testa like the legit beta male.
(32:44):
So if you don't want to be a member of
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Speaker 2 (33:44):
Once more Clay and Buck that you didn't you here
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you get your podcasts. We're gonna get into this Springfield, Ohio,
cats getting eat ducks, get into taken out of the
parks and having their heads chopped off. All of the
illegal immigrants that have come into the country. We're going
(34:06):
to get into this at the top of the next hour.
And if you are in the Springfield, Ohio area, we
want to take your calls. Eight hundred and two eight
two two eight a two. What are you actually seeing there?
I just want to point out they're actually not even illegals,
They're migrants that the Biden Harris administration just decided without
(34:29):
any laterally, just use their power unilaterally. You get to
stay in the country. If you get here, you cannot
be deported, which obviously means people will just come here. Right,
we will dive in.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Is we got it? Do you want to take this
call from Yeah, let's take it. Neil in Findlay, Ohio.
You're close to Springfield, Ohio. What are you hearing about?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Well, we hear that going on down there, but we
also have it going on here. Nobody talks about it.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
What's going on? We have?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
We have thousands of patients here in town. They've taken
over multiple hotels, They're everywhere. Everybody they're causing problems for
a lot of people, causing problems at the grocery stores,
the walmarts, the hospital, everything.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
But are people noticing it?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
In one of the things, there's all these people that
have showed up at like a town council or city
council meeting. They're saying, you know, overcrowded, public services, police
overwhelmed just with the day to day calls of dealing
with this. You're having the same thing.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, a lot of that as far as what the
police have witnessed that. A lot of that is hidden
from us, so we don't hear that. But we haven't
heard they're bringing more of them here, but they're saying
they're bringing them here of course to work, but they are,
They're everywhere.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Not a lot of work. We're going to play a
bunch of the audio from the Springfield area for what
they're dealing with. I was just laughing, Buck because the
memes of Trump and cats right now, Trump's saving cats
and geese. There is a picture of Trump surrounded by cats.
It says, I am your voice, I am your warrior,
(36:06):
I am your justice, I am your retribution, And it's
just Trump's speaking.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Everyone knows why I mean this is I mean, and look,
you guys know how I feel about my dog and
dogs and I have total respect the cat. Cat lovers
have the same relationship with their cats.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
The reports are that some of these migrants are catching
people's cats and eating.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Them, skinning them and eating them like as a meal.
They had a woman arrested. They had a woman arrested
for taking a house cat and trying to eat it.
I can't believe this is the real world we're in.
We're gonna talk about this and more when we come
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