September 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a hard-hitting analysis of the latest economic indicators, criminal justice failures, and political developments, all framed within the context of current conservative concerns. The hosts begin with breaking news on the economy, highlighting a surprising drop in wholesale inflation (PPI) and speculating on the potential for a Federal Reserve interest rate cut. They emphasize the ongoing crisis in housing affordability, pointing to skyrocketing mortgage rates and the lingering effects of inflation caused by pandemic-era spending and Biden administration policies.
The conversation pivots to the broader economic landscape, with commentary from Wells Fargo’s CEO suggesting consumer spending remains stable, though disparities between income levels persist. Clay and Buck argue that inflation has permanently embedded higher prices into everyday life—from grocery bills to restaurant meals—making it clear that pre-COVID pricing is gone for good. They blame Biden-era economic mismanagement and praise the Trump economy for beginning to reverse the damage.
In a powerful segment, the hosts address the brutal murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, North Carolina, using the case to spotlight systemic failures in the criminal justice system and the consequences of progressive policies. They discuss the racial dynamics of the crime and the disturbing lack of intervention from bystanders, drawing parallels to other recent violent incidents, including the stabbing of a retired veterinary professor in Alabama and a double homicide in Queens committed by a career criminal still at large.
The show also critiques the legacy of the Black Lives Matter movement and the media’s selective coverage of interracial violence, arguing that narratives around race and crime have been manipulated for political purposes. They revisit the short-lived “Stop Asian Hate” campaign, asserting that its demise was due to inconvenient video evidence contradicting mainstream assumptions.
Political commentary continues with discussion of Kamala Harris’ new book, which reportedly criticizes Joe Biden and signals internal Democratic Party conflict over the 2024 election loss. The hosts preview an upcoming interview with RNC Chairman and North Carolina Senate candidate Michael Whatley, who will weigh in on the Iryna Tkachenko case and broader political implications.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition. Almost lost at their
(00:04):
Clay Wednesday edition. That happens, Clay Travis said, Buck Sexton show,
we got to start with the right day. Very important,
but a lot of news going on, so lots are
breeding in to do this morning in preparation for the
show on things breaking, things happening. We are excited to
speak with all of you across this great land of ours,
so thank you for being here with us. Some important
(00:25):
numbers coming out on the economy. I'm going to dive
into that with play momentarily because that affects each and
every one of us. We've also got President Trump weighing
in and the DOJ saying that there will be swift
consequences in the case of Irena who was stabbed to
death in Charlotte. We've been talking a lot about that
(00:46):
horrific case this week. Also the case of the retired
veterinary professor from Alabama, another horrific case, another stabbing of
a woman. The assailant was black. It was a white
woman stabbed to death. People looking at that case and saying, well,
there's no video of it, so it doesn't have that
same visual impact, but the details of that are are
(01:07):
every bit as horrific it's And there's another case in
New York City that I'm going to tell you about
that just happened. I'm not going deep into the archives.
Another instance of the failure of the criminal justice system.
And in this case, the perpetrator is still at large.
Double a double murder committed in New York City. We'll
talk about this in a few minutes at the bottom
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of the hour, most likely. And Clay, We've got also
Kamala Harris's book is out. We will have some fun
discussing this, and she takes some shots at Biden, which
we knew was going to happen, because Heaven forbid, Kamala
takes any accountability for running the worst I know it
was only ninety days or something, but still the worst
(01:52):
ninety day campaign imaginable. We will discuss that, have some
fun getting into all of it. But I wanted to
start off with some of the economic numbers because there's
anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something Clay,
we haven't talked about. Honestly, I think we've got a
lot of things to talk aboutter So I'm gonna say
we haven't discussed it enough, but we certainly could spend
(02:13):
even more time on housing. Affordability in this country is
crazy right now. You have to make double the money
to be able to afford based on rates and based
on the cost of buying a new home in general,
double the money you did. What in twenty nineteen, twenty
twenty hasn't been that long a pre pandemic versus now
(02:35):
and immediate home prices. I'm talking nationwide, whether you live
in Oklahoma or Maine, or Arizona or California, whatever. Nationwide
home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable, and
there's a lot of people priced out of the market,
so we got big problems there. Good things, though, are
happening in the economy, and let's talk first about where
(02:57):
wholesale prices are. Here go CNBC's Santelly Clay talking about
where inflation is, where prices are. Play clip one.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
PPI postsale inflation for August expected to be up three
tenths no, no, no, down one tenth of a percent
down one tenth Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That would be the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
First negative numbers since April of this year, when it
was minus two tenths. Strip out food and energy. We're
also expecting up three tenths. It's minus one tenth as well,
minus one tenth the same. Last time we had a
minus number was April, and we're comping to minus two
tenths in April. Now the year over year. In my opinion,
these are the most important. Boy, I'm surprised. Real progress here.
(03:41):
Two point six on year over year headline. We are
expecting three point three in the rear view mirror. Three
point three two point six will be the lowest since
was two point four in June.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Clay, this is where the American people start chanting, slowly
but surely.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Rate cut, rate cut, rate cut, Well, they should cut
fifty basis points. And I'm looking as you're telling us
all this, buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates
because this is the number one thing that I believe
is broken in our economy that Biden tanked. And I'll
(04:17):
explain it why in a minute. But according to the
numbers that I'm looking up right now, thirty year mortgage
is now around six point four to six point five percent,
a fifteen year is around five point six. Now that's
just me doing rapid search, so I don't want to
get deluged by all of you talking about what mortgage
(04:38):
rates you've got or what happens in your particular communities.
They're coming down and this is really important. And I
don't think necessarily that communication on this has explained exactly
what happened, but many of you are living it. We
went in the most rapid fashion of most of our lives,
(05:00):
from two point five percent mortgage rates on a thirty
year to over well over seven percent, approaching eight percent
in the space of about a year. And that is
because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that
inflation was becoming a major issue in this country. Remember Buck,
when he just kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory, and
(05:22):
then we went all the way, I believe in June
of twenty one, if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it
was June of twenty two to nine point one percent inflation.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Which was worst in forty years, forty years.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that
it happened so rapidly that many people got handcuffed when
it came to buying or selling homes. And the number
one thing that would solve a lot of the issues
in the country today and a lot of you out
there nodding along with me, is if mortgage rates came
(05:57):
back to a reasonable level where people who are ready
to sell their homes aren't looking around saying, man, I
can't even afford anything because I'm going to have to
give up a two and a half percent mortgage and
take on a nine percent mortgage or an eight percent mortgage.
It's absolutely bonkers for you to do that, and a
lot of people got priced out because if you didn't
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happen to get that two and a half or three
percent mortgage, then you're constantly chasing the market because other
people did. Now the result is, I think we're going
to get at least a twenty five basis point cut.
Next week, should be a fifty point basis cut, and
I think we should have a one point overall cut
(06:38):
in interest rates before the end of the year, and
that will help to solve some of the log jam
in housing, which I would argue economically is the biggest
issue hamstringing a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many
of you that are telling us, hey, guys, prices are
still really high. Prices are still really high. We get it.
You know, that is the reality of what happened during
the pandemic, which was printing trillions and trillions of dollars,
and then Biden printing the two trillion right when he
came into office, just adding gasoline to a fire that
(07:12):
was already raging. There is no free lunch. We printed
money without the attendant productivity behind it or the goods
and services behind it. We had rampant inflation, so we've
been paying for that, literally paying for that with high prices.
But the Trump economy is turning this around. So it's
not that we're unaware or anything else. It's that this
(07:35):
takes time, but the data is moving all of this
in the right direction. Side note, Clay, it is still
astonishing that half the jobs in Biden's election year were
fake jobs, as they've now admitted. We mentioned this earlier
in the week, but I was reading a more detailed
analysis of it this morning. That is crazy. Put a
pin in that though. Wells Fargo's CEO somebody who has
(07:55):
to look at the macroeconomics of what's going on and
has to deal with, of course, mortgages and credit and
all these different things. Wells Fargo's a massive bank, I
just think you should hear from somebody who's, you know,
not necessarily a guy walking around in a maga hat.
I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he's not talking
about where the economy is played. Two.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend
continues at the same year over year pace across almost
all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's
been in the last six months. In fact, it's probably
trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape.
We look at signs for any kind of change and
you just don't see it. And having said that, there
(08:34):
is this big dichotomy between higher income and lower income
consumers which continues and is a real issue.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And when you look at just the overall.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Data in terms of jobs, it's undeniable in terms of
just job creation. So yeah, things are actually feel very
good today, certainly relative to what you think they could be.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Thanks, feeling very good today. I mean, you know, look,
nothing's ever perfect with the economy. Clay could always be better,
but here there we are in September of Trump's first year.
It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving. Yeah,
mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing that
I think is important.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Prices are never coming back down, and I think that
is so challenging because people are angry when they go
to the grocery store, when they go to fast food.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Inflation is so toxic because.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Basically, once the prices are there, they never come back down.
And I don't think a lot of people recognize that
necessarily because to your point, Buck, we had two generations
where effectively we didn't have Biden era inflation, where we
didn't have Jimmy Carter era inflation, and a lot of
you who lived through the nineteen seventies that are listening
(09:48):
to us right now, you said, yeah, we dealt with
this for a long time. Inflation rates got all the
way up. I think the like seventeen percent, if I'm
not mistaken mortgage rates did. I mean, it's crazy when
you go back and look at some of the historical
economic data on this. You also used to be able
to get a return on a savings account, I think
in the teens in the eighties at one point, right
(10:08):
or maybe it was nine, ten to eleven. I mean,
there were times when you could put money.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Now, there was much higher inflation, but you could put
money in a savings account backed by the government and
get a return. We've been in an era now for years,
maybe decades, where to get return on your money. Essentially
most people end up putting it in the market in
some capacity because otherwise your money is being inflated away
all the time. But inflation is a particularly pernicious thing
(10:35):
because not only doesn't raise prices, but it turns out
to be a tax on wage earners because they don't
have the attended assets that get inflated like home prices
along with it. And if their wages don't keep up,
you just have less buying power, which you feel when
you're paying your rent, buying your groceries, filling up the
gas in your car. But it's a long term thing, right,
or it takes longer to feel that than it does
(10:56):
the initial Let's just pay everybody to stay home and
then spend trillions and dollars under Biden that we should
never have spent totally.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And remember Biden wanted to spend five trillion, and Joe
Manchin said, I can't go above one point nine. So
things would have actually been double digit inflation if Biden
had gotten what he wanted. But the anger I get it.
You're never going to be able to buy a hamburger
for the price that you did before COVID. That's never
going to occur. Your cereal is never going to be
(11:25):
the price that it was before COVID. Those prices are
now embedded thanks to Biden's economic failures, and I think
some people believed, oh, prices are going to just go
back to what they were in twenty nineteen, and when
you don't see it in your grocery bill, that is
frustrating to people. This is why it's so toxic. This
(11:48):
is why the Biden economy was so awful. Now, some places,
prices fluctuate more. Price of gas, for instance, you are
definitely feeling, hey, we're at four year lows and what
costs to fill up the tank. But the price on
gas is far more of a fluctuating factor than the
price on groceries or the price on fast food, which
(12:09):
is where I think a lot of people still and
I'm in this camp just a are frustrated every time
you get a bill because things cost way more than
you think they should cost. And that is a function
of poor economic decisions, to your point, Buck, that were
led by the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I tell you, and I'm not not even talking about
our wonderful sponsor Good Ranchers, although I am making one
of their steaks tonight for dinner, so I'll just throw
that in there, so I guess I am talking about them.
You go out to a restaurant these days and you
get a steak, and whether it's a good steak a
mediocre steak, I can't find a steak anywhere. And now
I know it's Miami, and you're gonna say it's expensive,
We're gonna be in Fort Wayne. I guarantee you if
(12:47):
we go out to the steakhouse in Fort Wayne, Clay
if filay is like sixty five seventy bucks these days
for one for one, I mean, I remember we used
to go have a steak dinner for seventy dollars. I
know it sound like some guy from the old old
days or something, but the price is food prices. They
can't hide from you, and at a restaurant because they
have to add in all the attendant costs of labor
(13:08):
and tax and everything else. You can see what they
have to run up in order to run a business.
I mean, you cannot get a fill a in a
metro area of the United States, right, I know you
can't get like a decent steak for less than sixty bucks. Really,
I mean it's very hard to find.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It is.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Again, everything costs more than it should. And to your
point on the file A, we go to a restaurant
I love it. It's in Franklin, Tennessee, right, not far
from where we live, called the chop House. Not a
super fancy place, great service. I love this place. They
didn't know they were going to get a shout out.
My son ordered a filly a steak the other day.
(13:45):
We went to go eat there and the wager came
over and he said, Hey, I just want to let
you know, this is the most affordable place like I
can think of where you can go sit down. He said,
the cost on our fill at is now over forty dollars.
We've had to keep changing that. It's not even included
in the menu now. And I think a lot of
you have probably experienced that where you go. I'm not
(14:07):
talking about how many ounces are we talking too? Are
we talking eight ounce full a? Look, I take my
meat very seriously. We're talking eight ouns ten ounce fil a.
I mean I would to weigh eight ounce fil a
pretty easily. We're not talking about the place where you
had to buy me the fancy steak and you're still.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Paying that off play. You want to talk about mortgage rates,
that's where all my money's going. After Biden dropped out
of the race. We're not talking about this. This is
a great, really local establishment.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But I do think that many of you feel this
when you go in the other thing that's happened is,
and this is me being a kind of looking at
the data, the difference between fast food and like casual,
sit down restaurant prices has almost vanished.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Like you can't eat affordably at fast food anymore. I mean,
I order shakeshack here with carry sometimes and it's fifty bucks.
I don't know. I'm just getting two burgers and some fries.
She always says, don't get the fries. By the way,
to all the husbands out there, Obviously we get the fries,
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got the fried when they're there. When those hot fries
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program. Couple of other
stories that are out there. I think we mentioned this
off the top. If we did not, I'll mention it again.
Michael Wattley is going to join us at the top
of the next hour. He is the Senate candidate running
(16:47):
against Roy Cooper in North Carolina. Obviously he has a
lot of thoughts about the Arena Zaritzka video. We should
mention the full video is out. We talked about that
yesterday quite a bit, that they needed to release the
full video.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It is now out.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
We'll talk about that, I'm sure during the course of
the program. Also, Kamala Harris excerpts from her new book
where she throws Joe Biden buck a little bit. I
think it's fair to say under the bus. When it
comes to how Biden came to run, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Like elder abuse via words, very harsh. We told you
this would happen.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. The
biggest story in the nation still this week has to
do with the criminal justice systems failures, the Democrat narratives
on crime, the really the legacy of the BLM movement
and the BLM ideology Black lives matter. After the footage
(19:12):
was fully released of Ukrainian refugee, a war refugee, a
true refugee, not all these fake refugees scamming our system
at our southern border. Irene Zarutska, this beautiful young woman
who was viciously stabbed to death. The video shows the
completely out of nowhere I mean, unprovoked certainly, but also
(19:34):
just a completely just there's no way she could have known,
no way that she could have unless she just refused
to sit next to this individual. Based on appearance, there's
no way that she could have known anything bad. What's
going to happen to her? And then she stabbed in
the neck she sits there. It is gut wrenching. I've
(19:55):
watched the whole video. Clay has watched the whole video.
We'll tell you about it. I'm not sure that all.
I mean, Carrie, it's been really bothering her, you know, yeah,
and really stuck with other people that I know. It's
it's horrific imagery, but it is important that the public
has access to it and is aware of it. Let
me also just say, Clay, I have read numerous accounts
(20:16):
that there is video footage of the fatal stabbing of
Austin Metcalf in Texas, Yes, by Carmelo Anthony, who has
since had members of his community raise I believe over
a million dollars for him and now has a public
defender after that.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And we should mention for people who have forgotten. These
are the high school kids want at a track meet,
Black kids, stabs white kid in the heart over nothing
and kills him in cold blood right there.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yes, and I think that that video also needs to
be released. I think that when people see that video,
they will be horrified. I think we all understand why
they have not released that video so far, and we
are noticing a pattern here when the video is delayed.
This this city council in Charlotte. My understanding, Clay, is
that they initially voted not to release the video of
(21:12):
the Irena Zarutzka fatal stabbing. It's horrific. Something else from
this video, Clay, the callous nature of individuals around those women. Look,
we can separate this right away. Everyone's very clear. I
mean I have had people who are as adept with
edge weapons as a Fort Bragg edge weapons instructor. Tell
(21:35):
me that if you think you're going to fight somebody
with a knife and wind, you got another thing coming.
They don't have to be skilled. It is that you're
an enormous disadvantage. I bring this up because the problem
is not that someone didn't necessarily try to tackle this
guy right away. You know, you're frozen and terror he's
stabbing somebody. You could be next. Now, some of you
listening to this, you know your former Green Berets, you
(21:56):
know your former law enforcement. You're an army ranger. You
know you might step been A lot of people are
going to be scared Clay to step into a maniac
with a knife, and that doesn't that's a self preservation thing.
I think we can just be honest about that, right
if somebody has a different if someone's strangling somebody, but
if somebody has a knife, you have to make that
determination about whether you think you can intervene without you
getting stabbed to death too. The problem is this individual
(22:20):
leaves the train and Irena is there in terror, clutching
at her neck and crying, and people just leave her
and no one does anything. No one even makes a
move to call the police on their phones. We can
see this. They just let her bleed to death.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's an impossibly difficult video to watch. I think adults
need to see it. I also think if we're looking
at that and.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Everyone on the train is black and she is white,
which has been pointing out to everybody, this is video.
You can see this, just to be clear that there's
a dynamic here that people are addressing, which is nobody
thought to help this woman. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think also I was talking with producer out this
in the same way in New York City, A lot
of people won't stand near the tracks because you are
unfortunately aware that people might shove you in front of
an oncoming train. This is a huge fear of anybody
that ever rides public transportation in New York City or
any other subway type environment. The other thing I would
(23:20):
say is, I think a lot of people need to
be sitting with their back in the back row if
you have to ride public transport transportation. If I have daughters,
I've certainly got sons, I'm telling them that, unfortunately, because
of safety issues, you can't trust who's behind you or
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what might occur. The really awful thing about watching this
video is once she sat down and selected that seat,
there was nothing she could.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Have done to keep herself from getting killed.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
She gets stabbed and never knows the stabbing is coming,
and he stabs her multiple times. There is nothing even
a grown man who is bigger than the guy who
was stabbing would have been able to defend himself. When
somebody stabs you from behind, you have no ability to
defend yourself. I think you have to, and I mean
(24:17):
this honestly. I would talk to my sons. I would
talk to my daughters if you're out there listening to
us right now, if you are writing public transportation, I
hate to have this discussion. You need to be with
your back against something where no one can come at
you without you being able to see them. And I'm
having this conversation with producer ally this like the old
(24:39):
school mafia guy. You know, when the mafia guy would
eat in.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The with my back to the entrance, and I need
to know where the exit is. I know a lot
of freaking up a mafia. I know a lot of
CIA guys. That's how they go through their whole life.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Still is like I'm sitting with my back against a wall.
I see everybody that comes in.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
There is no inability of me to antaly threats.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Now, could the guy with the knight to your point, Buck,
even if he's coming straight on her, is it unlikely
that she's going to be able to defend her relative
to him, Probably, but at least she is with a
back against her able to see him coming, as opposed
to being stabbed and never actually even knowing that her
life was coming to a close. I think that's what's
(25:21):
so particularly difficult about watching this video is you can
see her turn, see that she has been killed, know
that something is wrong, and then watch her slowly bleeding
out on the video. It's brutal, but we need to
see it because it's unacceptable to happen anywhere in America
to anyone and.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
One thing that Look, this is a change in the
narrative moment, I think broadly nationally. It's not going to
affect policy in every city. It's not going to change
laws everywhere, but the perception has changed about interracial violence
in this country as a result of this, how it
is treated by law enforcement, how it is covered by
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the media, and what the realities by the numbers are
for how our criminal justice system is treating people, what
is happening, who is being kept safe, who is not?
And so I think in that sense, it is a
little bit of a late nineties, you know OJ Simpson moment.
Remember the OJ Simpson trial happened. I think the first
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person I ever heard make this case was actually Ann Coulter,
But she said, the OJ Simpson trial happened. And it
wasn't just the verdict in the O. J. Simpson trial.
It was the widespread support which I saw with my
own eyes as a kid, of people across the country
from within. Now I'm not saying it was everyone, or
even a majority or but there was enough support for
oj from the black community. And when he clearly murdered
(26:43):
those two people, I mean one was his ex wife,
the mother of children, the other was just a guy
who happened to be there, And there was cheering all
over the country. Clay, you saw this too, right, and
this happened. There was cheering in my school from the
black students in my school at the verdict. It was
the only time I can remember there being radios turned
on in every classroom to hear the verdict of a trial.
That's how fixated on this one. And there was a
(27:04):
moment where we just said, you know what, the laws
of the law were actually going to not allow this
stuff to happen anymore, no more trying to deal with
racial injustice of the past by creating racial injustice today.
And I think that this may be another turning point,
another moment in time where people see this and they say,
you can't have people arrested fifteen times and you only
(27:25):
take it seriously when they murder some girl who's trying
to get home from her job after fleeing a war zone.
That's unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I also think I think all that is well said,
and I like the analogy and and Culter talking about, Hey,
this was clearly oj got away with killing two innocent
white people, slaughtering, and a lot of people cheered for it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That was there, and all.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Of the evidence dictated that he was guilty. And as
time has passed, I think it opened a lot of
people's eyes to racism. Here's what I would say in general.
He said, ba I got that white girl, and I'm
quoting this guy who stabbed Arena to death. There's a
lot of racism that has nothing to do with white
people in America. And I think if we want to
(28:12):
really have a conversation, the idea that only racism can
occur white to black is one of the most dishonest
things that is said in America at all.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That is an official BLM narrative. By the way, the
race hustlers out there, the people that have made careers
of this, they say that because of historic power and balance,
it is in fact impossible for a black person to
be racist. It is impossible. That is the official theory
of the Ibram X Kendy's and people and Robin DiAngelo's
that is a lie. That is a lie, clearly, Clearly,
(28:48):
many of these incidents that we can talk about here
involve a racial animist from a black person to a
white person that resulted in a murder, a grizzly murder
in this case. And Clay, we couldn't even finish talking
about this. And we had the people I was talking
about on Monday, you were out Monday. But the murder
of that retired veterinary professor from she was in Auburn,
(29:10):
alone in Auburn. And and now I've got this other story.
You've got another career criminal. Okay, this guy is on
the loose, still a violent sex offender and career criminal.
He killed two elderly people in Queens. This just happened.
He is he is a career criminal. They, like I said,
(29:31):
registered sex offender. He is a black man named Jamel McGriff.
He is on the run.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
He tied he knocked on the door of these elderly
people for assistance. He tied them up, set the man
on fire, stabbed them both to death, and then tried
to start a fire to burn down the whole building. Yeah, again,
we can do the if this if a white guy
did this, the two elderly black people anywhere in the
United States, it would be the biggest story in the war,
in the country, in the world. You know, we'd all
(29:59):
be told the KKK was rising again in all this.
But but yeah, we're not supposed to notice this, We're
not supposed to talk about this. This just happened. He's
still on the loose.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Remember Biden said the biggest threat in America is white supremacy.
I mean, that was the talking point of the Democrat
Party that America's biggest threat is white supremacy. And I
think a lot of black people are looking and hearing
all this and recognizing just how dishonest much of the
coverage around BLM was. Because if you want there to
(30:31):
be fewer murders, as everyone of all racists should, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
everyone out there listening, we should all want there to
be fewer murders in America, you have to look at
who's committing murders. And this idea that black people were
in danger from white people is just crazy. If you
look at the statistical data, that almost never happens. And
(30:53):
yet this is where I come back to the anecdotal
world in which we live. If you take any anecdote,
it should be representative of a larger problem. It shouldn't
be a outlier that is almost never occurring that we're
using to try to drive public policy. That's frankly what
George Floyd was. And remember the moment was awful death
(31:15):
in way more people.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The moment in time where there was the stop Asian
Hate campaign. Now, if you want to look at yeah,
what's really interesting is you look at crime statistics within
the Asian community. And by the way, in New York City,
there's a very Now, Asian is so expansive. When you
say Asia, you're talking Bangladeshia, you're talking Taiwanese. I mean,
there's a whole. You know, Asia is a very big place.
But there are elements or members of the Asian community
(31:39):
who are actually quite poor but have incredibly low crime rates.
So this is one of the ways you can just
dismiss this, Oh, poverty causes crime, that's a lie that
data doesn't support it. It's just not true. There's no
causation there. But the stop Asian Hate thing got stopped
because of video, yes, and we were being told that
there were the the insinuation was there's like maga hat
(32:01):
wearing white guys spitting on Asian people or being mean
to Asian people, attacking Asian people. And what we saw
over and over and over again was that it was
non white men who were attacking Asian people. And so
they got rid of the whole stop Asian hate.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Stop Stop Asian hate vanish because black guys were the
ones that were causing almost all of the Asian beatdowns
and violence. And so that remember it was what did
that lasts like six weeks stop Asian hate? We got
to stop Asian hate, and all the videos kept coming
out and it was just black guys knocking out Asian people.
And people were like, yeah, you know, I guess maybe
this Asian thing's not such a big deal, right, And again,
(32:37):
what they are looking for is the right people to
be criminal. Look this whole trans shoot up, the Minneapolis
in Nashville story, vanished guy wrote kill Trump on the gun.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And yeah, they hid it just is gone. They they
hide this stuff. They hide, they hide because you have
to remember people who are of the left, people who
are Democrats, people who believe in BLM. Same people, by
the way, believe in fauci and masking. They think that
lying to you in the service of their beliefs is
(33:07):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One of
the big discussions that has come out of the Arena
Zuruchka Murder that is continuing to get a lot of
conversation is what about the judges? What about the magistrates
that continue to let all these people out? And one
of our listeners in Phoenix gave us a talkback yesterday.
(35:25):
Let me play that AA for you.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
If a doctor can get sued for malpractice, if a
home inspector can get sued for missing something on an inspection.
Everybody gets sued for something that they missed or something
that they did. Why can't a judge be held financially
accountable to a family after he releases somebody inappropriately and
(35:50):
they killed somebody or do something like this.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's a great question.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
The easy answer, Buck is no one would want to
be a judge if you were criminally culpable for things
that people who you looked at their criminal files did.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
What I do believe is you should lose your job.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You should lose your job if you are consistently putting
violent criminals back on the streets and they continue to
act out. And also we need to put a lot
of bonus on the prosecutors here a lot of focus
on judges, but prosecutors should be trying to lock these
people up and throw away the key instead of allowing
them to plee down to nothing and get out on
cashlet's bell.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We'll talk to RNC chairman and GOP Center candidate Michael
Whatley here about what's going on in North Carolina for
sure and more in just a moment. Make sure you
keeps sending us those talkbacks that to more in the
next hour. Playing buck our one done, but so much
more coming up, so make sure you stick around.
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition. Almost lost at their
(00:04):
Clay Wednesday edition. That happens, Clay Travis said, Buck Sexton show,
we got to start with the right day. Very important,
but a lot of news going on, so lots are
breeding in to do this morning in preparation for the
show on things breaking, things happening. We are excited to
speak with all of you across this great land of ours,
so thank you for being here with us. Some important
(00:25):
numbers coming out on the economy. I'm going to dive
into that with play momentarily because that affects each and
every one of us. We've also got President Trump weighing
in and the DOJ saying that there will be swift
consequences in the case of Irena who was stabbed to
death in Charlotte. We've been talking a lot about that
(00:46):
horrific case this week. Also the case of the retired
veterinary professor from Alabama, another horrific case, another stabbing of
a woman. The assailant was black. It was a white
woman stabbed to death. People looking at that case and saying, well,
there's no video of it, so it doesn't have that
same visual impact, but the details of that are are
(01:07):
every bit as horrific it's And there's another case in
New York City that I'm going to tell you about
that just happened. I'm not going deep into the archives.
Another instance of the failure of the criminal justice system.
And in this case, the perpetrator is still at large.
Double a double murder committed in New York City. We'll
talk about this in a few minutes at the bottom
(01:30):
of the hour, most likely. And Clay, We've got also
Kamala Harris's book is out. We will have some fun
discussing this, and she takes some shots at Biden, which
we knew was going to happen, because Heaven forbid, Kamala
takes any accountability for running the worst I know it
was only ninety days or something, but still the worst
(01:52):
ninety day campaign imaginable. We will discuss that, have some
fun getting into all of it. But I wanted to
start off with some of the economic numbers because there's
anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something Clay,
we haven't talked about. Honestly, I think we've got a
lot of things to talk aboutter So I'm gonna say
we haven't discussed it enough, but we certainly could spend
(02:13):
even more time on housing. Affordability in this country is
crazy right now. You have to make double the money
to be able to afford based on rates and based
on the cost of buying a new home in general,
double the money you did. What in twenty nineteen, twenty
twenty hasn't been that long a pre pandemic versus now
(02:35):
and immediate home prices. I'm talking nationwide, whether you live
in Oklahoma or Maine, or Arizona or California, whatever. Nationwide
home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable, and
there's a lot of people priced out of the market,
so we got big problems there. Good things, though, are
happening in the economy, and let's talk first about where
(02:57):
wholesale prices are. Here go CNBC's Santelly Clay talking about
where inflation is, where prices are. Play clip one.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
PPI postsale inflation for August expected to be up three
tenths no, no, no, down one tenth of a percent
down one tenth Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That would be the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
First negative numbers since April of this year, when it
was minus two tenths. Strip out food and energy. We're
also expecting up three tenths. It's minus one tenth as well,
minus one tenth the same. Last time we had a
minus number was April, and we're comping to minus two
tenths in April. Now the year over year. In my opinion,
these are the most important. Boy, I'm surprised. Real progress here.
(03:41):
Two point six on year over year headline. We are
expecting three point three in the rear view mirror. Three
point three two point six will be the lowest since
was two point four in June.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Clay, this is where the American people start chanting, slowly
but surely.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Rate cut, rate cut, rate cut, Well, they should cut
fifty basis points. And I'm looking as you're telling us
all this, buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates
because this is the number one thing that I believe
is broken in our economy that Biden tanked. And I'll
(04:17):
explain it why in a minute. But according to the
numbers that I'm looking up right now, thirty year mortgage
is now around six point four to six point five percent,
a fifteen year is around five point six. Now that's
just me doing rapid search, so I don't want to
get deluged by all of you talking about what mortgage
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rates you've got or what happens in your particular communities.
They're coming down and this is really important. And I
don't think necessarily that communication on this has explained exactly
what happened, but many of you are living it. We
went in the most rapid fashion of most of our lives,
(05:00):
from two point five percent mortgage rates on a thirty
year to over well over seven percent, approaching eight percent
in the space of about a year. And that is
because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that
inflation was becoming a major issue in this country. Remember Buck,
when he just kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory, and
(05:22):
then we went all the way, I believe in June
of twenty one, if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it
was June of twenty two to nine point one percent inflation.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Which was worst in forty years, forty years.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that
it happened so rapidly that many people got handcuffed when
it came to buying or selling homes. And the number
one thing that would solve a lot of the issues
in the country today and a lot of you out
there nodding along with me, is if mortgage rates came
(05:57):
back to a reasonable level where people who are ready
to sell their homes aren't looking around saying, man, I
can't even afford anything because I'm going to have to
give up a two and a half percent mortgage and
take on a nine percent mortgage or an eight percent mortgage.
It's absolutely bonkers for you to do that, and a
lot of people got priced out because if you didn't
(06:18):
happen to get that two and a half or three
percent mortgage, then you're constantly chasing the market because other
people did. Now the result is, I think we're going
to get at least a twenty five basis point cut.
Next week, should be a fifty point basis cut, and
I think we should have a one point overall cut
(06:38):
in interest rates before the end of the year, and
that will help to solve some of the log jam
in housing, which I would argue economically is the biggest
issue hamstringing a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many
of you that are telling us, hey, guys, prices are
still really high. Prices are still really high. We get it.
You know, that is the reality of what happened during
the pandemic, which was printing trillions and trillions of dollars,
and then Biden printing the two trillion right when he
came into office, just adding gasoline to a fire that
(07:12):
was already raging. There is no free lunch. We printed
money without the attendant productivity behind it or the goods
and services behind it. We had rampant inflation, so we've
been paying for that, literally paying for that with high prices.
But the Trump economy is turning this around. So it's
not that we're unaware or anything else. It's that this
(07:35):
takes time, but the data is moving all of this
in the right direction. Side note, Clay, it is still
astonishing that half the jobs in Biden's election year were
fake jobs, as they've now admitted. We mentioned this earlier
in the week, but I was reading a more detailed
analysis of it this morning. That is crazy. Put a
pin in that though. Wells Fargo's CEO somebody who has
(07:55):
to look at the macroeconomics of what's going on and
has to deal with, of course, mortgages and credit and
all these different things. Wells Fargo's a massive bank, I
just think you should hear from somebody who's, you know,
not necessarily a guy walking around in a maga hat.
I don't know, maybe he is, maybe he's not talking
about where the economy is played. Two.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend
continues at the same year over year pace across almost
all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's
been in the last six months. In fact, it's probably
trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape.
We look at signs for any kind of change and
you just don't see it. And having said that, there
(08:34):
is this big dichotomy between higher income and lower income
consumers which continues and is a real issue.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And when you look at just the overall.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Data in terms of jobs, it's undeniable in terms of
just job creation. So yeah, things are actually feel very
good today, certainly relative to what you think they could be.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Thanks, feeling very good today. I mean, you know, look,
nothing's ever perfect with the economy. Clay could always be better,
but here there we are in September of Trump's first year.
It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving. Yeah,
mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing that
I think is important.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Prices are never coming back down, and I think that
is so challenging because people are angry when they go
to the grocery store, when they go to fast food.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Inflation is so toxic because.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Basically, once the prices are there, they never come back down.
And I don't think a lot of people recognize that
necessarily because to your point, Buck, we had two generations
where effectively we didn't have Biden era inflation, where we
didn't have Jimmy Carter era inflation, and a lot of
you who lived through the nineteen seventies that are listening
(09:48):
to us right now, you said, yeah, we dealt with
this for a long time. Inflation rates got all the
way up. I think the like seventeen percent, if I'm
not mistaken mortgage rates did. I mean, it's crazy when
you go back and look at some of the historical
economic data on this. You also used to be able
to get a return on a savings account, I think
in the teens in the eighties at one point, right
(10:08):
or maybe it was nine, ten to eleven. I mean,
there were times when you could put money.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Now, there was much higher inflation, but you could put
money in a savings account backed by the government and
get a return. We've been in an era now for years,
maybe decades, where to get return on your money. Essentially
most people end up putting it in the market in
some capacity because otherwise your money is being inflated away
all the time. But inflation is a particularly pernicious thing
(10:35):
because not only doesn't raise prices, but it turns out
to be a tax on wage earners because they don't
have the attended assets that get inflated like home prices
along with it. And if their wages don't keep up,
you just have less buying power, which you feel when
you're paying your rent, buying your groceries, filling up the
gas in your car. But it's a long term thing, right,
or it takes longer to feel that than it does
(10:56):
the initial Let's just pay everybody to stay home and
then spend trillions and dollars under Biden that we should
never have spent totally.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And remember Biden wanted to spend five trillion, and Joe
Manchin said, I can't go above one point nine. So
things would have actually been double digit inflation if Biden
had gotten what he wanted. But the anger I get it.
You're never going to be able to buy a hamburger
for the price that you did before COVID. That's never
going to occur. Your cereal is never going to be
(11:25):
the price that it was before COVID. Those prices are
now embedded thanks to Biden's economic failures, and I think
some people believed, oh, prices are going to just go
back to what they were in twenty nineteen, and when
you don't see it in your grocery bill, that is
frustrating to people. This is why it's so toxic. This
(11:48):
is why the Biden economy was so awful. Now, some places,
prices fluctuate more. Price of gas, for instance, you are
definitely feeling, hey, we're at four year lows and what
costs to fill up the tank. But the price on
gas is far more of a fluctuating factor than the
price on groceries or the price on fast food, which
(12:09):
is where I think a lot of people still and
I'm in this camp just a are frustrated every time
you get a bill because things cost way more than
you think they should cost. And that is a function
of poor economic decisions, to your point, Buck, that were
led by the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I tell you, and I'm not not even talking about
our wonderful sponsor Good Ranchers, although I am making one
of their steaks tonight for dinner, so I'll just throw
that in there, so I guess I am talking about them.
You go out to a restaurant these days and you
get a steak, and whether it's a good steak a
mediocre steak, I can't find a steak anywhere. And now
I know it's Miami, and you're gonna say it's expensive,
We're gonna be in Fort Wayne. I guarantee you if
(12:47):
we go out to the steakhouse in Fort Wayne, Clay
if filay is like sixty five seventy bucks these days
for one for one, I mean, I remember we used
to go have a steak dinner for seventy dollars. I
know it sound like some guy from the old old
days or something, but the price is food prices. They
can't hide from you, and at a restaurant because they
have to add in all the attendant costs of labor
(13:08):
and tax and everything else. You can see what they
have to run up in order to run a business.
I mean, you cannot get a fill a in a
metro area of the United States, right, I know you
can't get like a decent steak for less than sixty bucks. Really,
I mean it's very hard to find.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It is.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Again, everything costs more than it should. And to your
point on the file A, we go to a restaurant
I love it. It's in Franklin, Tennessee, right, not far
from where we live, called the chop House. Not a
super fancy place, great service. I love this place. They
didn't know they were going to get a shout out.
My son ordered a filly a steak the other day.
(13:45):
We went to go eat there and the wager came
over and he said, Hey, I just want to let
you know, this is the most affordable place like I
can think of where you can go sit down. He said,
the cost on our fill at is now over forty dollars.
We've had to keep changing that. It's not even included
in the menu now. And I think a lot of
you have probably experienced that where you go. I'm not
(14:07):
talking about how many ounces are we talking too? Are
we talking eight ounce full a? Look, I take my
meat very seriously. We're talking eight ouns ten ounce fil a.
I mean I would to weigh eight ounce fil a
pretty easily. We're not talking about the place where you
had to buy me the fancy steak and you're still.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Paying that off play. You want to talk about mortgage rates,
that's where all my money's going. After Biden dropped out
of the race. We're not talking about this. This is
a great, really local establishment.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
But I do think that many of you feel this
when you go in the other thing that's happened is,
and this is me being a kind of looking at
the data, the difference between fast food and like casual,
sit down restaurant prices has almost vanished.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Like you can't eat affordably at fast food anymore. I mean,
I order shakeshack here with carry sometimes and it's fifty bucks.
I don't know. I'm just getting two burgers and some fries.
She always says, don't get the fries. By the way,
to all the husbands out there, Obviously we get the fries,
you know what I mean. Like they say don't get
the fries, You get the fries, and they're happy you
got the fried when they're there. When those hot fries
(15:07):
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of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program. Couple of other
stories that are out there. I think we mentioned this
off the top. If we did not, I'll mention it again.
Michael Wattley is going to join us at the top
of the next hour. He is the Senate candidate running
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against Roy Cooper in North Carolina. Obviously he has a
lot of thoughts about the Arena Zaritzka video. We should
mention the full video is out. We talked about that
yesterday quite a bit, that they needed to release the
full video.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
It is now out.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
We'll talk about that, I'm sure during the course of
the program. Also, Kamala Harris excerpts from her new book
where she throws Joe Biden buck a little bit. I
think it's fair to say under the bus. When it
comes to how Biden came to run, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Like elder abuse via words, very harsh. We told you
this would happen.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
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the Democrat Party over who is to blame for the
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Right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. The
biggest story in the nation still this week has to
do with the criminal justice systems failures, the Democrat narratives
on crime, the really the legacy of the BLM movement
and the BLM ideology Black lives matter. After the footage
(19:12):
was fully released of Ukrainian refugee, a war refugee, a
true refugee, not all these fake refugees scamming our system
at our southern border. Irene Zarutska, this beautiful young woman
who was viciously stabbed to death. The video shows the
completely out of nowhere I mean, unprovoked certainly, but also
(19:34):
just a completely just there's no way she could have known,
no way that she could have unless she just refused
to sit next to this individual. Based on appearance, there's
no way that she could have known anything bad. What's
going to happen to her? And then she stabbed in
the neck she sits there. It is gut wrenching. I've
(19:55):
watched the whole video. Clay has watched the whole video.
We'll tell you about it. I'm not sure that all.
I mean, Carrie, it's been really bothering her, you know, yeah,
and really stuck with other people that I know. It's
it's horrific imagery, but it is important that the public
has access to it and is aware of it. Let
me also just say, Clay, I have read numerous accounts
(20:16):
that there is video footage of the fatal stabbing of
Austin Metcalf in Texas, Yes, by Carmelo Anthony, who has
since had members of his community raise I believe over
a million dollars for him and now has a public
defender after that.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
And we should mention for people who have forgotten. These
are the high school kids want at a track meet,
Black kids, stabs white kid in the heart over nothing
and kills him in cold blood right there.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yes, and I think that that video also needs to
be released. I think that when people see that video,
they will be horrified. I think we all understand why
they have not released that video so far, and we
are noticing a pattern here when the video is delayed.
This this city council in Charlotte. My understanding, Clay, is
that they initially voted not to release the video of
(21:12):
the Irena Zarutzka fatal stabbing. It's horrific. Something else from
this video, Clay, the callous nature of individuals around those women. Look,
we can separate this right away. Everyone's very clear. I
mean I have had people who are as adept with
edge weapons as a Fort Bragg edge weapons instructor. Tell
(21:35):
me that if you think you're going to fight somebody
with a knife and wind, you got another thing coming.
They don't have to be skilled. It is that you're
an enormous disadvantage. I bring this up because the problem
is not that someone didn't necessarily try to tackle this
guy right away. You know, you're frozen and terror he's
stabbing somebody. You could be next. Now, some of you
listening to this, you know your former Green Berets, you
(21:56):
know your former law enforcement. You're an army ranger. You
know you might step been A lot of people are
going to be scared Clay to step into a maniac
with a knife, and that doesn't that's a self preservation thing.
I think we can just be honest about that, right
if somebody has a different if someone's strangling somebody, but
if somebody has a knife, you have to make that
determination about whether you think you can intervene without you
getting stabbed to death too. The problem is this individual
(22:20):
leaves the train and Irena is there in terror, clutching
at her neck and crying, and people just leave her
and no one does anything. No one even makes a
move to call the police on their phones. We can
see this. They just let her bleed to death.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's an impossibly difficult video to watch. I think adults
need to see it. I also think if we're looking
at that and.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Everyone on the train is black and she is white,
which has been pointing out to everybody, this is video.
You can see this, just to be clear that there's
a dynamic here that people are addressing, which is nobody
thought to help this woman. What's going on here?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think also I was talking with producer out this
in the same way in New York City, A lot
of people won't stand near the tracks because you are
unfortunately aware that people might shove you in front of
an oncoming train. This is a huge fear of anybody
that ever rides public transportation in New York City or
any other subway type environment. The other thing I would
(23:20):
say is, I think a lot of people need to
be sitting with their back in the back row if
you have to ride public transport transportation. If I have daughters,
I've certainly got sons, I'm telling them that, unfortunately, because
of safety issues, you can't trust who's behind you or
(23:41):
what might occur. The really awful thing about watching this
video is once she sat down and selected that seat,
there was nothing she could.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Have done to keep herself from getting killed.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
She gets stabbed and never knows the stabbing is coming,
and he stabs her multiple times. There is nothing even
a grown man who is bigger than the guy who
was stabbing would have been able to defend himself. When
somebody stabs you from behind, you have no ability to
defend yourself. I think you have to, and I mean
(24:17):
this honestly. I would talk to my sons. I would
talk to my daughters if you're out there listening to
us right now, if you are writing public transportation, I
hate to have this discussion. You need to be with
your back against something where no one can come at
you without you being able to see them. And I'm
having this conversation with producer ally this like the old
(24:39):
school mafia guy. You know, when the mafia guy would
eat in.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
The with my back to the entrance, and I need
to know where the exit is. I know a lot
of freaking up a mafia. I know a lot of
CIA guys. That's how they go through their whole life.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Still is like I'm sitting with my back against a wall.
I see everybody that comes in.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
There is no inability of me to antaly threats.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Now, could the guy with the knight to your point, Buck,
even if he's coming straight on her, is it unlikely
that she's going to be able to defend her relative
to him, Probably, but at least she is with a
back against her able to see him coming, as opposed
to being stabbed and never actually even knowing that her
life was coming to a close. I think that's what's
(25:21):
so particularly difficult about watching this video is you can
see her turn, see that she has been killed, know
that something is wrong, and then watch her slowly bleeding
out on the video. It's brutal, but we need to
see it because it's unacceptable to happen anywhere in America
to anyone and.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
One thing that Look, this is a change in the
narrative moment, I think broadly nationally. It's not going to
affect policy in every city. It's not going to change
laws everywhere, but the perception has changed about interracial violence
in this country as a result of this, how it
is treated by law enforcement, how it is covered by
(25:59):
the media, and what the realities by the numbers are
for how our criminal justice system is treating people, what
is happening, who is being kept safe, who is not?
And so I think in that sense, it is a
little bit of a late nineties, you know OJ Simpson moment.
Remember the OJ Simpson trial happened. I think the first
(26:20):
person I ever heard make this case was actually Ann Coulter,
But she said, the OJ Simpson trial happened. And it
wasn't just the verdict in the O. J. Simpson trial.
It was the widespread support which I saw with my
own eyes as a kid, of people across the country
from within. Now I'm not saying it was everyone, or
even a majority or but there was enough support for
oj from the black community. And when he clearly murdered
(26:43):
those two people, I mean one was his ex wife,
the mother of children, the other was just a guy
who happened to be there, And there was cheering all
over the country. Clay, you saw this too, right, and
this happened. There was cheering in my school from the
black students in my school at the verdict. It was
the only time I can remember there being radios turned
on in every classroom to hear the verdict of a trial.
That's how fixated on this one. And there was a
(27:04):
moment where we just said, you know what, the laws
of the law were actually going to not allow this
stuff to happen anymore, no more trying to deal with
racial injustice of the past by creating racial injustice today.
And I think that this may be another turning point,
another moment in time where people see this and they say,
you can't have people arrested fifteen times and you only
(27:25):
take it seriously when they murder some girl who's trying
to get home from her job after fleeing a war zone.
That's unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I also think I think all that is well said,
and I like the analogy and and Culter talking about, Hey,
this was clearly oj got away with killing two innocent
white people, slaughtering, and a lot of people cheered for it.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
That was there, and all.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Of the evidence dictated that he was guilty. And as
time has passed, I think it opened a lot of
people's eyes to racism. Here's what I would say in general.
He said, ba I got that white girl, and I'm
quoting this guy who stabbed Arena to death. There's a
lot of racism that has nothing to do with white
people in America. And I think if we want to
(28:12):
really have a conversation, the idea that only racism can
occur white to black is one of the most dishonest
things that is said in America at all.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
That is an official BLM narrative. By the way, the
race hustlers out there, the people that have made careers
of this, they say that because of historic power and balance,
it is in fact impossible for a black person to
be racist. It is impossible. That is the official theory
of the Ibram X Kendy's and people and Robin DiAngelo's
that is a lie. That is a lie, clearly, Clearly,
(28:48):
many of these incidents that we can talk about here
involve a racial animist from a black person to a
white person that resulted in a murder, a grizzly murder
in this case. And Clay, we couldn't even finish talking
about this. And we had the people I was talking
about on Monday, you were out Monday. But the murder
of that retired veterinary professor from she was in Auburn,
(29:10):
alone in Auburn. And and now I've got this other story.
You've got another career criminal. Okay, this guy is on
the loose, still a violent sex offender and career criminal.
He killed two elderly people in Queens. This just happened.
He is he is a career criminal. They, like I said,
(29:31):
registered sex offender. He is a black man named Jamel McGriff.
He is on the run.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
He tied he knocked on the door of these elderly
people for assistance. He tied them up, set the man
on fire, stabbed them both to death, and then tried
to start a fire to burn down the whole building. Yeah, again,
we can do the if this if a white guy
did this, the two elderly black people anywhere in the
United States, it would be the biggest story in the war,
in the country, in the world. You know, we'd all
(29:59):
be told the KKK was rising again in all this.
But but yeah, we're not supposed to notice this, We're
not supposed to talk about this. This just happened. He's
still on the loose.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Remember Biden said the biggest threat in America is white supremacy.
I mean, that was the talking point of the Democrat
Party that America's biggest threat is white supremacy. And I
think a lot of black people are looking and hearing
all this and recognizing just how dishonest much of the
coverage around BLM was. Because if you want there to
(30:31):
be fewer murders, as everyone of all racists should, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
everyone out there listening, we should all want there to
be fewer murders in America, you have to look at
who's committing murders. And this idea that black people were
in danger from white people is just crazy. If you
look at the statistical data, that almost never happens. And
(30:53):
yet this is where I come back to the anecdotal
world in which we live. If you take any anecdote,
it should be representative of a larger problem. It shouldn't
be a outlier that is almost never occurring that we're
using to try to drive public policy. That's frankly what
George Floyd was. And remember the moment was awful death
(31:15):
in way more people.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The moment in time where there was the stop Asian
Hate campaign. Now, if you want to look at yeah,
what's really interesting is you look at crime statistics within
the Asian community. And by the way, in New York City,
there's a very Now, Asian is so expansive. When you
say Asia, you're talking Bangladeshia, you're talking Taiwanese. I mean,
there's a whole. You know, Asia is a very big place.
But there are elements or members of the Asian community
(31:39):
who are actually quite poor but have incredibly low crime rates.
So this is one of the ways you can just
dismiss this, Oh, poverty causes crime, that's a lie that
data doesn't support it. It's just not true. There's no
causation there. But the stop Asian Hate thing got stopped
because of video, yes, and we were being told that
there were the the insinuation was there's like maga hat
(32:01):
wearing white guys spitting on Asian people or being mean
to Asian people, attacking Asian people. And what we saw
over and over and over again was that it was
non white men who were attacking Asian people. And so
they got rid of the whole stop Asian hate.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Stop Stop Asian hate vanish because black guys were the
ones that were causing almost all of the Asian beatdowns
and violence. And so that remember it was what did
that lasts like six weeks stop Asian hate? We got
to stop Asian hate, and all the videos kept coming
out and it was just black guys knocking out Asian people.
And people were like, yeah, you know, I guess maybe
this Asian thing's not such a big deal, right, And again,
(32:37):
what they are looking for is the right people to
be criminal. Look this whole trans shoot up, the Minneapolis
in Nashville story, vanished guy wrote kill Trump on the gun.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And yeah, they hid it just is gone. They they
hide this stuff. They hide, they hide because you have
to remember people who are of the left, people who
are Democrats, people who believe in BLM. Same people, by
the way, believe in fauci and masking. They think that
lying to you in the service of their beliefs is
(33:07):
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Speaker 3 (35:03):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One of
the big discussions that has come out of the Arena
Zuruchka Murder that is continuing to get a lot of
conversation is what about the judges? What about the magistrates
that continue to let all these people out? And one
of our listeners in Phoenix gave us a talkback yesterday.
(35:25):
Let me play that AA for you.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
If a doctor can get sued for malpractice, if a
home inspector can get sued for missing something on an inspection.
Everybody gets sued for something that they missed or something
that they did. Why can't a judge be held financially
accountable to a family after he releases somebody inappropriately and
(35:50):
they killed somebody or do something like this.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
It's a great question.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
The easy answer, Buck is no one would want to
be a judge if you were criminally culpable for things
that people who you looked at their criminal files did.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
What I do believe is you should lose your job.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You should lose your job if you are consistently putting
violent criminals back on the streets and they continue to
act out. And also we need to put a lot
of bonus on the prosecutors here a lot of focus
on judges, but prosecutors should be trying to lock these
people up and throw away the key instead of allowing
them to plee down to nothing and get out on
cashlet's bell.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We'll talk to RNC chairman and GOP Center candidate Michael
Whatley here about what's going on in North Carolina for
sure and more in just a moment. Make sure you
keeps sending us those talkbacks that to more in the
next hour. Playing buck our one done, but so much
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