November 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off with major political developments and sharp commentary on urban policy and government accountability. Buck Sexton opens by previewing upcoming interviews with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Senator Ron Johnson, setting the stage for discussions on FBI transparency and national security concerns following revelations about the Crooks assassination attempt on President Trump.
The hour dives into breaking news: President Trump will meet New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani at the White House, a high-profile sit-down that underscores deep ideological divides. Buck analyzes Mamdani’s progressive agenda, including proposals for rent freezes, free public buses, and universal childcare, arguing these policies mirror failed socialist experiments and will worsen housing scarcity in New York City. He explains how government intervention in markets—such as rent control—creates artificial constraints that drive up costs and reduce housing availability, citing economic principles from Hayek’s Road to Serfdom. Buck warns that Mamdani’s tax-hike plans targeting corporations and high earners will further destabilize the city’s economy.
In a lighter but viral moment, Buck highlights Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett’s congressional blunder, where she falsely linked prominent Republicans to Jeffrey Epstein donations—only to discover the contributions came from an unrelated individual with the same name. Buck uses this to illustrate the recklessness and shamelessness dominating Democratic politics, contrasting it with the GOP’s push for transparency in the Epstein files release, which remains a hot-button issue as the DOJ faces a 30-day deadline to disclose documents.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show. Our Maine man Clay still walking
around with a halo and enjoying his pasta carbonaro. I
think only in America to eat that. But he's over
in Italy. He'll be back on either tomorrow Monday depending.
So it's just me today and we have a lot
to talk about, so thank you for hanging out. We
(00:22):
also have some fabulous, fantastic, marvelous pick your word guests,
like Governor Ron DeSantis of the great State of Florida,
my home state, and I just think far and away.
I mean, there's some other good Republican governors, don't get
me wrong, but I think when it comes to governor's
right now, Ron is the goat.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He is the best.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And then Ron Johnson, Senator Johnson of Wisconsin. So it's
a double Ron day, everybody, a double Ron day.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That is a selling point all on its own.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We're gonna have a lot of conversation on there, including
about the FBI and what the heck happened here with
the crooks thing they so now I think the consensus
seems to be on the right that they knew more,
but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Tell us that. Look, he actually used that.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
They then pronouns, I want to know how this guy
Crooks went from allegedly online Trump supporter to extreme hater
who then tried to kill the president?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, how does that happen?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Obviously he's a crazy person, but there was some process,
some radicalization pathway he took, and I would think that
the FBI would have a very detailed roadmap of that
based on online stuff. So we'll talk to Senator Johnson
about that. But we've got some other things happening here
as well. Kami mom Donni, I think is this the
(01:50):
right guys? He's getting an invite to the White House.
He's going to the White House tomorrow. Is that really happening?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Uh, check that one. Maybe I might have just gotten punked.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I've heard rumors that Kamie Mamdanni is well, he's certainly
getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He's certainly getting a lot of attention. See, this is
the problem in the AI era.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm just looking at some of the news items that
I had pulled together here and now I'm recognizing that
one of them could have been AI. We'll figure this
one out. We'll figure this out. But Mam Donnie is
saying that he will not allow Ice to do any
sort of cooperation with the NYPD. So that's a really
bad sign. That's something that I think tells you. Yeah, guys,
(02:37):
come on, I'm right. The Buckster is right. President Trump
to meet NYC Mayor, Mam Donnie, the team in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I could tell everyone what.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, President Trump to host New York City Mayor elect
zoraon Mamdani at the White House on Friday. Always bet
on buck I don't just come up with this stuff
like a crazy person. I know what I'm doing. This
isn't my first roadie, fifteen years of this, fifteen years
of sitting in a room alone talking into a microphone.
So yeah, I tend to be I tend to be
on point. So yeah, Mom Donnie is going to be
(03:09):
meeting with Trump. I that is going to be fascinating,
fascinating the outcome of that. We've also got the White
House doing a presser today at one o'clock. We'll have
some Caroline Leavitt stuff. But I want to jump into
something today. You know, we spent a lot of time
yesterday on the Epstein release, which now they've.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Got thirty days. So there is a little.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Bit of a of a of a waiting game now
with this to see what actually comes out of this
document release. But I have an Epstein Files bombshell of
sorts to drop here.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is this is incredible. I'm gonna tell you this
right now.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know this is We've been dealing with a lot
of very serious stuff on the show, a lot a
lot of things quite intense and government transparency and conspiracies
that go to the heart of the deep state and
all that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But all we really needed was this is real. This
is definitely real. Because I was looking at it this.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
One Representative Jasmine Crockett, who is perhaps going to run
for Senate in Texas. All we needed was Jasmine Crockett
and her team of sleuth's to figure out that, in fact,
Jeffrey Epstein, Well, I want you to hear. This was
(04:31):
such a big revelation that Jeffrey Epstein had given money
to the following individuals. According to Representative Crockett, this was
earlier in the week play cut one folks who.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein. As I
had my team dig in very quickly Mitt Romney, the NRCC,
Lee Zelden, George Bush, Win, Rad McCain, Palin, Rick Lazio.
I just want to be clear, if this is the
standard that we're gonna make, just now, we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Expel it all.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And just know that ThEC filings they are available for
everybody to review. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh my gosh, all of them, Lee Zelden, George Bush,
Sarah Sarah Palin or if they're they're adding so many names.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It was a different Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
She she thought that she just would have her team
look up some some guy named Jeffrey Epstein and look
up donations, and she reported on the floor of Congress.
She reported on the the Bombshell Revelations that a Jeffrey
(05:44):
Epstein who has absolutely nothing to do with the Jeffrey
Epstein that we've been talking about, a separate guy with
the name Jeffrey Epstein, which I will admit is unfortunate
these days. But it's not that guy's fault, right, I mean,
you know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Uh, there's a another Jeffrey Epstein. And she and her
team figured out that there were donations made by some
guy with the same name to a bunch of Republicans
and reported that as a gotcha. I don't know if
I've seen anything dumber in the United States Congress in memory,
(06:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That may be the dumbest thing I've I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It's it's definitely in the pantheon of stupid things that
somebody has done in Congress. That's up there. But you
might be thinking, buck, wow, thank you for that. That's
that's a that's a nice light way to start things
out today. And yes, of course it is. Oh, but
she kind of doubles down it gets better instead of saying, oh, wow,
(06:50):
I did something very stupid and reckless, and everyone in
the country is laughing at me, and we are. We're
all laughing at her. We're laughing at this. Oh, she
suddenly discovered all the money from from Epstein that's going
to all these Republican politicians. Did it ever occur to
their other people? If you google the name Epstein, yes,
(07:11):
news stories will be Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But there are a lot of people with that name,
a lot of people. It's not the only one.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh boy, I have I have a a friend. Her
name is hyphenated. I have a friend with the last
she married a guy named Epstein. I have a friend
whose last name is Epstein.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Nothing to do with Jeffrey. It's sure.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
There is, in fact a way to have Epstein in
your name and you have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
That's funny, Actually I do. I just realize I forgot
that one of my friends married married. I don't know
if he's a doctor or something like that, but he's
an Epstein. Jasmine Crockett is just saying, oh, I didn't.
What I said is true. I wasn't misleading people. This
(07:54):
is after everyone figured out what had gone on here
play cut too.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I never said that it was Jeffrey Epstein, just so
that people understand when you make a donation, your picture
is not there. And because they decided to spring this
on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to
think about what could potentially happen because I knew that
they didn't even try to go through the FEC. So
my team what they did is they googled. And that
is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein. Unlike Republicans,
(08:19):
I at least don't go out and just tell lies
because it was not the same one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
But when lee Zel then had something to say, all
he had to say was it was a Jeffrey Epstein.
He admitted that he did receive donations from a Jeffrey Epstein,
so at least I wasn't trying to mislead people. Now,
have I dug in to find out who this doctor is?
I have not, so I will trust and take what
he says is that it wasn't that Jeffrey Epstein. But
I was not attempting to mislead anybody. I literally had
(08:46):
maybe twenty minutes before I had to do that debate.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I just I knew all along that I was just
saying a guy named Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I just wanted to point out that there's some other guy.
What what what is she doing? Oh my gosh, this
is one of my favorite things. This is one of
my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I cannot believe this instead of just instead of just
doing what any person in this circumstance would do, which
just be the guys.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm so sorry. My staff is preposterous. Mistake. I'll never
happen again.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And doctor Epstein, wherever you are, I you know, apologize for.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
In some way maybe bringing bringing you into this.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You have nothing, You've done nothing wrong, you have nothing
to do with the other Jeffrey Epstein. Oh my gosh,
but no, She's like, no, I just said, Jeffrey Epstein,
there's another guy.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
There's another guy out there, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So, oh man, I just kind of needed that after
after the week, the weeks that we've been having lately,
very serious news stuff. And I mean this, I truly
hope that Jasmine Crockett runs for Senate. Now I'm now,
I'm dedicated to it. And before I thought it would
be entertaining. Before there was a part of me that
(10:00):
figured in our business here of doing talk radio and commentary,
Jasmine Crockett will be a gift, that is for sure.
But now I don't know. I don't know if I
can handle not having a run for state. I'll be
so disappointed. It would be such a massive loss to
those of us who do this for a living. So
(10:24):
you know, I don't donate to candidates, but there's a
part of you that's like, wouldn't wouldn't it be fun
to just just make sure just to help that help
Jasmine Crockett get into this race for Senate. But yeah,
it turns out different. Jeffrey Epstein. One of my favorite
missteps that I've seen in Congress in a really long time,
and the fact that she's so unrepented about it is
(10:44):
it's pretty remarkable. But I actually believe that as a Democrat,
this is a this is an asset. I think you're
much better off if you're going to be a Democrat
politician these days. And this now gets us into also
the way they've tried to folk is the actual Epstein
stuff on Trump and the hypocrisy lack of standards are
(11:07):
really only double standards.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You have to embrace those things, and you have to
be shameless. You have to be shameless to be a
prominent Democrat. How else can you explain to people the
Schumer is shut down as anything other than Democrats throwing
a tantrum and trying to do a little bit of
voter turnout before the election and making the country suffer
as a result. How else can you explain the wide
(11:32):
open border and the devastation that that has caused in
so many communities across the country. You have to just
be willing to say anything and take any position that
the party, that the elites of the Democrat establishment tell
you that I just honestly it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So I hope that you enjoy that as much as
I did. Did you know that there's another Jeffrey Epstein
writing checks to politicians?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I bet, I bet if you did a Google search,
is probably more than two Jeffrey Epstein's.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It turns out probably it isn't It is in fact possible.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So anyway, we'll talk more about this Mom Donnie meeting
which is happening at the White House. Everyone I could,
I could hear you guys in New York producer rally.
You were all making me think that I was crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
For a second. Like the way that the way that
the gasp went up.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I think they were just horrified that Mom Donnie's gonna
be getting even more attention because they're in New York.
I'm I'm outside the blast radius here in South Florida.
They're actually right in in the mix. Our New York
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(12:46):
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Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, here it is in the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Trump and Mamdanni will meet at White House on Friday.
The meeting between Zoron Mamdani, the mayor elect of New
York City, and President Trump will come after the two
men have fiercely.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Attacked each other.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Let's see we have your Mamdanni had asked for it
and label him sorry, Trump said, Mandani asked for it
and labeled him incorrectly as the.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Communist mayor of New York City.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
First of all, the fact that Trump calls him that
publicly is hilarious and true, and secondly the fact that
New York Times corrects it.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Mister Mumdanni is a democratic socialist.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The communists thought they we're a democratic socialist too. Just
putting that out there. They had all sorts of games
that they play, but ultimately.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's really more of it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's really more about the ethos, the underlying philosophical foundation
of what you think the role between citizen and state
must be. But that's another conversation here. That's why the
communists versus socialists versus Yeah, we understand that mom. Donnie
(15:31):
thinks that if he has more power and more central
planning ability and he gets to determine what's fair, then
everything will be better for everybody. And that is, unfortunately,
throughout history, a disaster recipe. It is an absolute nightmare
if that is taken to its logical ends, or rather,
(15:54):
where where has it gone?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Historically?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Ah Sodania's fiercely criticized the president's immigration policies and threats
to cut federal funding the city. Remember Eric Adams, who
was the mayor of New York beforehand, and I'm sorry
is still the Mayor of New York, but the mayor
of preceding Mamdani's reign of terror. Eric Adams said, look,
(16:20):
this thing of the illegals coming into New York is
a mess for us here in the city. It's blowing
a hole in our budget. It is overcrowding a lot
of resources that are meant for actual New Yorkers, actual Americans,
and it's causing big problems. This was important in the
twenty twenty four election cycle. And yes, the Biden DOJ
(16:44):
decided to go after Eric Adams because of this. That
is really how the game is played for I wish
it was not the case. I wish I could tell
you that our prosecutorial arm of the DOJ and all
that operates based on justice, not on poplic just a lie.
It's just not true anymore, not when Democrats are in charge,
(17:07):
not when there are Obama Biden judges making these decisions
or Democrats deciding who has charges brought against them. It's
a big, a big problem that we face the country.
But I'll give you some of what we're seeing here
because this is gonna be quite a showdown between Trump
and Mom Donnie. Trump understands the moment. He understands how
(17:31):
to handle this too. I'm gonna tell you something right now.
You know what Trump's gonna say.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
He's an you know, he's he's a nice young man.
He's got some he's got some good ideas. He's doing things.
You know, he's gonna say some nice things.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And he's gonna but he's a communist and he's gonna
destroy New York City. So so he'd be very trump
about this, right, he'll be charming, but then he's gonna
he's gonna lay the lay the SmackDown on some of
the madness of Mam Donnie's And so we'll go to
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eight for details, and welcome back in everybody to Clay,
and we're talking about the mom Donnie cammy mom Donnie.
He is going to be in the White House tomorrow,
so I always got that going for him, which is nice.
But we are looking at what this is going to
be like VIP email from Pamela. Thanks Buck for reminding
me to laugh sometimes at the Democrat antics rather than
(19:18):
just feel anger or fear. It's much healthier to recognize
it for what it is. Keep the face, keep the faith,
preserve my sanity. You guys are the best. Well, yes, yes, indeed,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We try.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We try to be happy warriors here. You know we're
in the fight, but look it's the day to day
is stress one hard enough? We want you to come here,
get a lot of great information, get insights, you know,
have people like Governor DeSantis and Senator Ron Johnson fill
you in on what's happening from the very top levels
of government, respectively, in their different spheres. But also have fun.
(19:52):
You know, we want you to have fun obviously every day.
It's because it's more fun for us too. So I really,
I really appreciate that. I just had to open up
with the Jasmine crack the thing today. Do you realize
that a man named Jeffrey Epstein? You know, I I
grew up in Manhattan, and I.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Think there were there were.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Several Jeffrey Epstein's in my general vicinity. I didn't even
I didn't even think about it until now. Oh my gosh,
it's amazing. It is amazing. Also, VIP email from William writes,
hey Bock, to continue the fun, we should go to
Jasmine's website and donate to her campaign using the name
(20:33):
Jeffrey Epstein. Well, don't, don't donate in someone else's name.
But I get the joke, and yeah, it's oh man, funny,
funny stuff, funny stuff. All right, Now we got this
Mom Donnie meeting tomorrow. What what's really an issue? Here,
and I think that there's gonna be an effort to well,
(20:56):
first of all, there's gonna be an effort to make
Mom donnieism and Clay and I talk about this a
lot an issue for the mid terms.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I don't know how much how well that will work.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think the cost of things is a huge decider
of where this midterm is going to go, whether you know,
who makes the case that they're better at handling costs.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I was just actually reading a.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Couple of days ago a piece I can't remember Wall Street,
You're on the near time. I read all these different
newspapers constantly, so I can't keep straight sometimes where I
read it. But as you know, one of the big
Momdani plans is a rent freeze. I'm gonna freeze the rent.
And this is one of these ideas that I get it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It sounds good. Look, oh the rent's.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Going to be frozen. A lot of people now it
doesn't sound good of your landlord. We'll get to that,
but oh, you know, the rent's going to be frozen
because yeah, New York rent is very high? Why is
New York rent very high? This is true in a
lot of cases, Okay, a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
New York is a test case for this, but it's
same things true for house building in Los Angeles County.
Is that the county LA? It's LA County, right, yeah,
Los Angeles County. Same things true in a lot of
very left wing districts in this and counties in this country.
What makes the cost so high are things like labor cost,
(22:28):
regulatory cost, and then market conditions as well. Do a
lot of people want to live where you want to live.
There's also a supply and demand aspect of it, but
there are artificial constraints on the supply and demand as
a result of government intervention.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
This is where Hyek it's a little dry, but Hyak's
road to serve them is so good because Hyak makes
the case that and it's it's very important to remember
government intervention in markets begets more government intervention in markets.
The more the government tries to play god, so to speak,
in where you can live and what you pay and
(23:11):
what you can buy and all this, then there's this
tendency for them to say, oh, we've created a distortion
in the market. Let's let's fix it with more government regulation.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And you all see this in your day to day life.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You know, whenever the government has done something, you're like, well,
that's a dumb idea. What happens later when everyone realizes
the dumb idea, does the government say let's stop.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Doing the dumb thing. No, they generally want to do another.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Dumb thing to fix the dumb thing that they should
not have done in the first place. And with that,
I bring you rent control or a rent freeze, both
of them applicable here in New York City. Oh, let's
just freeze the rent. Well, does that freeze the cost?
Does that freeze taxes on the people who own these buildings?
(23:59):
You know, this is where you start to see the
destructive hand of government and markets, And Mamdanie fundamentally does
not do this is where he's a commie. Well, we'll
just you know, we'll give more to people and then
they'll have more stuff than everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Everybody will be happy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But no, what about the hand that takes What about
the government hand that says, well, that's mine now, and
I'm going to give it to somebody else. That redistributive mechanism.
You think about housing stock in New York City, there
are fifty thousand, fifty thousand housing units, mostly apartments, some
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multifamilies and homes and stuff, but fifty thousand places where
a person or a family could live that are off
the market, off the market entirely and in disrepair, unlivable.
They've got you know, they had some kind of a flaw,
or they have an asbestos problem, or they have whatever
(25:02):
it is.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And you know why they're off the market.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And not going to be on the market because New
York City pass laws that make it impossible for them,
for the landlords to recoup the cost of what it
would be to make the place livable.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So so you want to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
About artificial housing constraints, these are already These are domiciles
that would be ready to go. You got to put
some money into them. But the landlords realize, if I
can only if I have to spend let's just make
this kind of simple, A one bedroom, a one bedroom apartment.
(25:42):
And if I spend fifty thousd I'm a landlord in
New York.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Right there we go.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I spend fifty thousand dollars to bring that apartment up
to code, make it nice, make it you know, clean, safe,
somebody's going to want to live there. But I can
only raise the rent from what it used to be
fifty dollars a month one hundred dollars a month. I'm
never gonna recoup my investment. I would need to raise
the rent, you know, one thousand dollars a month, or
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fifteen hundred dollars a month, or whatever it may be,
and they won't allow it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And so as a result of all these young people, look,
I can't afford to live in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, that's because the idiot politicians who run New York City,
which is only possible. Also, the New York bureaucracy is
only possible because of the one percent of high earners
in New York who fund all of the madness. Also
true in California. If one percent of New Yorkers left,
I mean that full one percent of top earners, if
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all of them left, the whole the whole city budget,
I mean you'd lose half of the revenue be gone.
So because New York has such a concentration of extremely
high earners, they're able to get away with a lot
of really bad policy. It's a bit like a national
government that has a tram this amount of oil. They
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can get away with a lot of really bad policy
because oil is going to pay a lot of the bills,
and that's that's like having an ATM machine that's just
spewing out money when you have I think New York
has more obviously more billionaires than anywhere else in the country,
and more extreme high earners, although the Bay are maybe
the Bay Area actually now I'd have to look at
the numbers because of all the tech stuff. There's tremendous
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high earners there too. But if you had a flight
of just even half of that one percent the whole city,
even twenty five percent of that one percent, ten percent
of that one percent, the city budget just can't can't work,
can't function. You start to think about how you get
a state in that a federal bailout or something.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
So my problem with.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Mom Donnie, my mom Donnie ism is he has no
response to what I said, other other than to grin
and tell people we're gonna make it better for you.
What I just explained is the reality that there are
artificial constraints on housing that make the existing housing more expensive,
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and instead of dealing with those constraints and letting the market,
a lot of people want to live in New York
they could build a lot more housing in New York,
but instead of dealing with that properly, he's going to
punish the people that you actually need to incentivize, landlords, builders, developers.
He's going to punish them more and make the problem worse,
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make scarcity a bigger issue. This is exactly what's going
to go on. And then there's the immigration and enforcement
side of Oh wait, sorry, here here we go, Momdanie.
On day one plan this is why I was thinking
about this. I got so fired up at even the
first order of business is to freeze the rent play thirteen.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah. I think that the first order of business will
frankly be the Rent Guidelines Board and freezing the rent
for more than two million rent stabilized tenants. That is
something that happens on an annual basis here in New
York City. The other two, as you referred to, as
making buses fast and free and delivering universal childcare. And
just this past week I had a great meeting with
the Governor where we spoke about our shared focus on
an affordability agenda and on universal childcare particularly, and this
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is something that will take a period of time. These
are all promises that I intend to keep over the
time that I am mayor, And I also know that
what they had the potential to do is transform New
Yorker's ability to live in the city.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
This is true, and I know this is going to
sound flippant.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know where they had universal childcare as a matter
of policy, the Soviet Union they did.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Do you think it was any good? No?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, you did not want your kids to be in that,
but they did have it so they could have mom
and dad in the factories, the factories that didn't produce
very much, the factories where they pretended to work and
the owners pretended to or the government pretended to pay
them because they were the owners. It's astonishing that this
is where we are a rent freeze in New York.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
This guy got elected.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
This is the problem with Themocrats everybody, And I know
for a lot of you're like buck, I live in Texas.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Why do I care?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Because this is Democrats at the national level too. This
is how they think about everything. They approach it like
a child would approach the problem, instead of looking at
what caused it and brought it to this point, It's like, well,
what bandit can I put on it to make it better. Now,
what lipstick can I put on the pig, so to speak,
to make it prettier. They don't actually look at root causes.
(30:23):
They pretend to care about root causes. They don't care
about root causes. They pretend to care about what got
us here. The worst thing you can do for housing
affordability in New York City overall is more stupid policy
that makes it impossible for there to be more units
on the market, more units being built. That's the worst
thing you can do. And that's what he's doing. So
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this guy got elected largely on an issue where not
only will he fail to make it better, he is
inevitably going to make it worse. And this is the
part that will really drive a lot of us crazy,
and certainly a lot of New York is crazy. And
he will tell make no responsibility for it. When he fails,
it'll be somebody else. It'll be the rich, the fat cats.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The millionaires and the billion is.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It'll be some class warfare nonsense, or it's Donald Trump's.
It'll actually probably be Donald Trump's fault, which is one
of the reasons why I think Trump and Mom Donnie
meeting tomorrow is so interesting because Mom Donnie has Trump
built up as the boogeyman who will be the excuse
for whatever failures Mam Donnie has in New York City,
whatever real market or real economic failures there are, He'll say, well,
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it's Trump's fault. Does he have to explain that. No,
it's just going to be something that he says that
makes him feel good.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So we'll see. I'll take your calls on this.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
And uh.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And also I want to talk about this video that
was made, this video that was put out like a
commercial about not obeying illegal orders from a bunch of
Democrat politicians, including a Senator a Slotkin who right know
she wants to be president.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
By the way, not gonna happen. But talk about that
coming up here in a little bit.
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We'll take some calls coming up here also talking about
this video that was put out by Alyssa Slotkin and others.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You don't have to bay obey illegal orders military. What
are you like trying to get a mute? You going here?
Speaker 5 (33:34):
What is this.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Subversion? By the way, this is I want to play this.
This is mum Donnie on how to fund some of
his policies.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is cut. This is cut fourteen.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
And he thinks he's going to be able to get
free bussing, but he can't, but he thinks he'll get
it anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Play fourteen.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
You've been talking about fast and free bus. Isn't your
meeting with the governor. I've heard you talk about many
times that you don't want to take money away from
mt You want to put money in. It's something that
she agrees with, right, we don't want to takeway money
from the MCA. How are you getting that money, the
seven hundred millions to make the buses free into the MCA?
If she's not for raising taxes, you.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise
that money is through the raising of the state's corporate
tax to match she's in New Jersey. I think that
a lot of this is still a case to be made,
whether it's the corporate tax or that it's the personal
income tax on those who make more than a million
dollars a year or more. I think that these are
the clearest ways. I've also said that there are other
ways to raise this funding. The most important fact is
that we fund it, not the question of how we
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do it, but that we.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Do it, and it'll come from somewhere. He's saying, so
what if the governor is saying, no, you can't just
do that. It's complicated new York City, the Metro Transit Authority,
you know, New York City, new York State government. I
lived there for like thirty something years, and I still
don't even understand where, you know where the Port Authority
and the Metro Transit Authority and all this stuff, the
(34:54):
funding and everything else. It's a bit of a mess.
But the point is Mamdani was told, you can't just
fund this with whatever it was you were planning. The
Governor's office has already said no, we don't want to
do that, and in free, free, but the problem we
already have is people not paying on the bus and
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not paying on the subway. That's actually the problem. He
thinks it's gonna get better if you make it free.
Oh gosh, he's going to turn the button. This is
like when Starbucks change their policy, you don't have to
buy anything, just come hang out. Then you get like
homeless people camping out, like vagrants doing fentanel in the bathroom,
(35:36):
and then people who want to buy a coffee don't
want to be there anymore. The bus is going to
turn into a mobile homeless shelter if they if they
manage to get that, and everyone knows it, if they
manage to get this policy to do.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And this is why this guy's a commie.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
He doesn't care what rational thought is and what reality
is about these things.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's just emotion. We'll figure it out, pay for it,
we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
He certainly doesn't want to help out on the immigration
side of things, But man, it's gonna be an interesting,
interesting sit down tomorrow with Trump and commie mom.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Donnie.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Looking forward to diving to that and also looking forward
to taking your calls here coming up eight hundred and
two eighty two to eight eight two. Let's light up
those phone lines. Oh, we've got Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida.
We'll be with us soon and Senator Ron Johnson, So
those will be fascinating conversations, I can assure you, and I.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Think that we're gonna be diving into all that. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I don't think Clay's gonna call in today, but as
in case you missed yesterday, he got to meet with
the Pope.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
See I go meet with the President of Taiwan. He
meets with the Pope. We are international men of mystery
on this show. It is just how we roll.
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay Travis
en Buck Sexton Show. Our Maine man Clay still walking
around with a halo and enjoying his pasta carbonaro. I
think only in America to eat that. But he's over
in Italy. He'll be back on either tomorrow Monday depending.
So it's just me today and we have a lot
to talk about, so thank you for hanging out. We
(00:22):
also have some fabulous, fantastic, marvelous pick your word guests,
like Governor Ron DeSantis of the great State of Florida,
my home state, and I just think far and away.
I mean, there's some other good Republican governors, don't get
me wrong, but I think when it comes to governor's
right now, Ron is the goat.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He is the best.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And then Ron Johnson, Senator Johnson of Wisconsin. So it's
a double Ron day, everybody, a double Ron day.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That is a selling point all on its own.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We're gonna have a lot of conversation on there, including
about the FBI and what the heck happened here with
the crooks thing they so now I think the consensus
seems to be on the right that they knew more,
but they didn't.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Tell us that. Look, he actually used that.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
They then pronouns, I want to know how this guy
Crooks went from allegedly online Trump supporter to extreme hater
who then tried to kill the president?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right, how does that happen?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Obviously he's a crazy person, but there was some process,
some radicalization pathway he took, and I would think that
the FBI would have a very detailed roadmap of that
based on online stuff. So we'll talk to Senator Johnson
about that. But we've got some other things happening here
as well. Kami mom Donni, I think is this the
(01:50):
right guys? He's getting an invite to the White House.
He's going to the White House tomorrow. Is that really happening?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Uh, check that one. Maybe I might have just gotten punked.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I've heard rumors that Kamie Mamdanni is well, he's certainly
getting a lot of attention.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He's certainly getting a lot of attention. See, this is
the problem in the AI era.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm just looking at some of the news items that
I had pulled together here and now I'm recognizing that
one of them could have been AI. We'll figure this
one out. We'll figure this out. But Mam Donnie is
saying that he will not allow Ice to do any
sort of cooperation with the NYPD. So that's a really
bad sign. That's something that I think tells you. Yeah, guys,
(02:37):
come on, I'm right. The Buckster is right. President Trump
to meet NYC Mayor, Mam Donnie, the team in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I could tell everyone what.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, President Trump to host New York City Mayor elect
zoraon Mamdani at the White House on Friday. Always bet
on buck I don't just come up with this stuff
like a crazy person. I know what I'm doing. This
isn't my first roadie, fifteen years of this, fifteen years
of sitting in a room alone talking into a microphone.
So yeah, I tend to be I tend to be
on point. So yeah, Mom Donnie is going to be
(03:09):
meeting with Trump. I that is going to be fascinating,
fascinating the outcome of that. We've also got the White
House doing a presser today at one o'clock. We'll have
some Caroline Leavitt stuff. But I want to jump into
something today. You know, we spent a lot of time
yesterday on the Epstein release, which now they've.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Got thirty days. So there is a little.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Bit of a of a of a waiting game now
with this to see what actually comes out of this
document release. But I have an Epstein Files bombshell of
sorts to drop here.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is this is incredible. I'm gonna tell you this
right now.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know this is We've been dealing with a lot
of very serious stuff on the show, a lot a
lot of things quite intense and government transparency and conspiracies
that go to the heart of the deep state and
all that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But all we really needed was this is real. This
is definitely real. Because I was looking at it this.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
One Representative Jasmine Crockett, who is perhaps going to run
for Senate in Texas. All we needed was Jasmine Crockett
and her team of sleuth's to figure out that, in fact,
Jeffrey Epstein, Well, I want you to hear. This was
(04:31):
such a big revelation that Jeffrey Epstein had given money
to the following individuals. According to Representative Crockett, this was
earlier in the week play cut one folks who.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Also took money from somebody named Jeffrey Epstein. As I
had my team dig in very quickly Mitt Romney, the NRCC,
Lee Zelden, George Bush, Win, Rad McCain, Palin, Rick Lazio.
I just want to be clear, if this is the
standard that we're gonna make, just now, we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Expel it all.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And just know that ThEC filings they are available for
everybody to review. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh my gosh, all of them, Lee Zelden, George Bush,
Sarah Sarah Palin or if they're they're adding so many names.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It was a different Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
She she thought that she just would have her team
look up some some guy named Jeffrey Epstein and look
up donations, and she reported on the floor of Congress.
She reported on the the Bombshell Revelations that a Jeffrey
(05:44):
Epstein who has absolutely nothing to do with the Jeffrey
Epstein that we've been talking about, a separate guy with
the name Jeffrey Epstein, which I will admit is unfortunate
these days. But it's not that guy's fault, right, I mean,
you know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Uh, there's a another Jeffrey Epstein. And she and her
team figured out that there were donations made by some
guy with the same name to a bunch of Republicans
and reported that as a gotcha. I don't know if
I've seen anything dumber in the United States Congress in memory,
(06:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That may be the dumbest thing I've I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It's it's definitely in the pantheon of stupid things that
somebody has done in Congress. That's up there. But you
might be thinking, buck, wow, thank you for that. That's
that's a that's a nice light way to start things
out today. And yes, of course it is. Oh, but
she kind of doubles down it gets better instead of saying, oh, wow,
(06:50):
I did something very stupid and reckless, and everyone in
the country is laughing at me, and we are. We're
all laughing at her. We're laughing at this. Oh, she
suddenly discovered all the money from from Epstein that's going
to all these Republican politicians. Did it ever occur to
their other people? If you google the name Epstein, yes,
(07:11):
news stories will be Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But there are a lot of people with that name,
a lot of people. It's not the only one.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh boy, I have I have a a friend. Her
name is hyphenated. I have a friend with the last
she married a guy named Epstein. I have a friend
whose last name is Epstein.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Nothing to do with Jeffrey. It's sure.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
There is, in fact a way to have Epstein in
your name and you have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
That's funny, Actually I do. I just realize I forgot
that one of my friends married married. I don't know
if he's a doctor or something like that, but he's
an Epstein. Jasmine Crockett is just saying, oh, I didn't.
What I said is true. I wasn't misleading people. This
(07:54):
is after everyone figured out what had gone on here
play cut too.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I never said that it was Jeffrey Epstein, just so
that people understand when you make a donation, your picture
is not there. And because they decided to spring this
on us in real time, I wanted the Republicans to
think about what could potentially happen because I knew that
they didn't even try to go through the FEC. So
my team what they did is they googled. And that
is specifically why I said a Jeffrey Epstein. Unlike Republicans,
(08:19):
I at least don't go out and just tell lies
because it was not the same one.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's fine.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
But when lee Zel then had something to say, all
he had to say was it was a Jeffrey Epstein.
He admitted that he did receive donations from a Jeffrey Epstein,
so at least I wasn't trying to mislead people. Now,
have I dug in to find out who this doctor is?
I have not, so I will trust and take what
he says is that it wasn't that Jeffrey Epstein. But
I was not attempting to mislead anybody. I literally had
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maybe twenty minutes before I had to do that debate.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I just I knew all along that I was just
saying a guy named Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I just wanted to point out that there's some other guy.
What what what is she doing? Oh my gosh, this
is one of my favorite things. This is one of
my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I cannot believe this instead of just instead of just
doing what any person in this circumstance would do, which
just be the guys.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm so sorry. My staff is preposterous. Mistake. I'll never
happen again.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And doctor Epstein, wherever you are, I you know, apologize for.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
In some way maybe bringing bringing you into this.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You have nothing, You've done nothing wrong, you have nothing
to do with the other Jeffrey Epstein. Oh my gosh,
but no, She's like, no, I just said, Jeffrey Epstein,
there's another guy.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
There's another guy out there, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So, oh man, I just kind of needed that after
after the week, the weeks that we've been having lately,
very serious news stuff. And I mean this, I truly
hope that Jasmine Crockett runs for Senate. Now I'm now,
I'm dedicated to it. And before I thought it would
be entertaining. Before there was a part of me that
(10:00):
figured in our business here of doing talk radio and commentary,
Jasmine Crockett will be a gift, that is for sure.
But now I don't know. I don't know if I
can handle not having a run for state. I'll be
so disappointed. It would be such a massive loss to
those of us who do this for a living. So
(10:24):
you know, I don't donate to candidates, but there's a
part of you that's like, wouldn't wouldn't it be fun
to just just make sure just to help that help
Jasmine Crockett get into this race for Senate. But yeah,
it turns out different. Jeffrey Epstein. One of my favorite
missteps that I've seen in Congress in a really long time,
and the fact that she's so unrepented about it is
(10:44):
it's pretty remarkable. But I actually believe that as a Democrat,
this is a this is an asset. I think you're
much better off if you're going to be a Democrat
politician these days. And this now gets us into also
the way they've tried to folk is the actual Epstein
stuff on Trump and the hypocrisy lack of standards are
(11:07):
really only double standards.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You have to embrace those things, and you have to
be shameless. You have to be shameless to be a
prominent Democrat. How else can you explain to people the
Schumer is shut down as anything other than Democrats throwing
a tantrum and trying to do a little bit of
voter turnout before the election and making the country suffer
as a result. How else can you explain the wide
(11:32):
open border and the devastation that that has caused in
so many communities across the country. You have to just
be willing to say anything and take any position that
the party, that the elites of the Democrat establishment tell
you that I just honestly it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So I hope that you enjoy that as much as
I did. Did you know that there's another Jeffrey Epstein
writing checks to politicians?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I bet, I bet if you did a Google search,
is probably more than two Jeffrey Epstein's.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It turns out probably it isn't It is in fact possible.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So anyway, we'll talk more about this Mom Donnie meeting
which is happening at the White House. Everyone I could,
I could hear you guys in New York producer rally.
You were all making me think that I was crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
For a second. Like the way that the way that
the gasp went up.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I think they were just horrified that Mom Donnie's gonna
be getting even more attention because they're in New York.
I'm I'm outside the blast radius here in South Florida.
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Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, here it is in the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Trump and Mamdanni will meet at White House on Friday.
The meeting between Zoron Mamdani, the mayor elect of New
York City, and President Trump will come after the two
men have fiercely.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Attacked each other.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Let's see we have your Mamdanni had asked for it
and label him sorry, Trump said, Mandani asked for it
and labeled him incorrectly as the.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Communist mayor of New York City.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
First of all, the fact that Trump calls him that
publicly is hilarious and true, and secondly the fact that
New York Times corrects it.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Mister Mumdanni is a democratic socialist.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
The communists thought they we're a democratic socialist too. Just
putting that out there. They had all sorts of games
that they play, but ultimately.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's really more of it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's really more about the ethos, the underlying philosophical foundation
of what you think the role between citizen and state
must be. But that's another conversation here. That's why the
communists versus socialists versus Yeah, we understand that mom. Donnie
(15:31):
thinks that if he has more power and more central
planning ability and he gets to determine what's fair, then
everything will be better for everybody. And that is, unfortunately,
throughout history, a disaster recipe. It is an absolute nightmare
if that is taken to its logical ends, or rather,
(15:54):
where where has it gone?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Historically?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Ah Sodania's fiercely criticized the president's immigration policies and threats
to cut federal funding the city. Remember Eric Adams, who
was the mayor of New York beforehand, and I'm sorry
is still the Mayor of New York, but the mayor
of preceding Mamdani's reign of terror. Eric Adams said, look,
(16:20):
this thing of the illegals coming into New York is
a mess for us here in the city. It's blowing
a hole in our budget. It is overcrowding a lot
of resources that are meant for actual New Yorkers, actual Americans,
and it's causing big problems. This was important in the
twenty twenty four election cycle. And yes, the Biden DOJ
(16:44):
decided to go after Eric Adams because of this. That
is really how the game is played for I wish
it was not the case. I wish I could tell
you that our prosecutorial arm of the DOJ and all
that operates based on justice, not on poplic just a lie.
It's just not true anymore, not when Democrats are in charge,
(17:07):
not when there are Obama Biden judges making these decisions
or Democrats deciding who has charges brought against them. It's
a big, a big problem that we face the country.
But I'll give you some of what we're seeing here
because this is gonna be quite a showdown between Trump
and Mom Donnie. Trump understands the moment. He understands how
(17:31):
to handle this too. I'm gonna tell you something right now.
You know what Trump's gonna say.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
He's an you know, he's he's a nice young man.
He's got some he's got some good ideas. He's doing things.
You know, he's gonna say some nice things.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And he's gonna but he's a communist and he's gonna
destroy New York City. So so he'd be very trump
about this, right, he'll be charming, but then he's gonna
he's gonna lay the lay the SmackDown on some of
the madness of Mam Donnie's And so we'll go to
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eight for details, and welcome back in everybody to Clay,
and we're talking about the mom Donnie cammy mom Donnie.
He is going to be in the White House tomorrow,
so I always got that going for him, which is nice.
But we are looking at what this is going to
be like VIP email from Pamela. Thanks Buck for reminding
me to laugh sometimes at the Democrat antics rather than
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just feel anger or fear. It's much healthier to recognize
it for what it is. Keep the face, keep the faith,
preserve my sanity. You guys are the best. Well, yes, yes, indeed,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
We try.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We try to be happy warriors here. You know we're
in the fight, but look it's the day to day
is stress one hard enough? We want you to come here,
get a lot of great information, get insights, you know,
have people like Governor DeSantis and Senator Ron Johnson fill
you in on what's happening from the very top levels
of government, respectively, in their different spheres. But also have fun.
(19:52):
You know, we want you to have fun obviously every day.
It's because it's more fun for us too. So I really,
I really appreciate that. I just had to open up
with the Jasmine crack the thing today. Do you realize
that a man named Jeffrey Epstein? You know, I I
grew up in Manhattan, and I.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Think there were there were.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Several Jeffrey Epstein's in my general vicinity. I didn't even
I didn't even think about it until now. Oh my gosh,
it's amazing. It is amazing. Also, VIP email from William writes,
hey Bock, to continue the fun, we should go to
Jasmine's website and donate to her campaign using the name
(20:33):
Jeffrey Epstein. Well, don't, don't donate in someone else's name.
But I get the joke, and yeah, it's oh man, funny,
funny stuff, funny stuff. All right, Now we got this
Mom Donnie meeting tomorrow. What what's really an issue? Here,
and I think that there's gonna be an effort to well,
(20:56):
first of all, there's gonna be an effort to make
Mom donnieism and Clay and I talk about this a
lot an issue for the mid terms.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I don't know how much how well that will work.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think the cost of things is a huge decider
of where this midterm is going to go, whether you know,
who makes the case that they're better at handling costs.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I was just actually reading a.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Couple of days ago a piece I can't remember Wall Street,
You're on the near time. I read all these different
newspapers constantly, so I can't keep straight sometimes where I
read it. But as you know, one of the big
Momdani plans is a rent freeze. I'm gonna freeze the rent.
And this is one of these ideas that I get it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It sounds good. Look, oh the rent's.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Going to be frozen. A lot of people now it
doesn't sound good of your landlord. We'll get to that,
but oh, you know, the rent's going to be frozen
because yeah, New York rent is very high? Why is
New York rent very high? This is true in a
lot of cases, Okay, a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
New York is a test case for this, but it's
same things true for house building in Los Angeles County.
Is that the county LA? It's LA County, right, yeah,
Los Angeles County. Same things true in a lot of
very left wing districts in this and counties in this country.
What makes the cost so high are things like labor cost,
(22:28):
regulatory cost, and then market conditions as well. Do a
lot of people want to live where you want to live.
There's also a supply and demand aspect of it, but
there are artificial constraints on the supply and demand as
a result of government intervention.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
This is where Hyek it's a little dry, but Hyak's
road to serve them is so good because Hyak makes
the case that and it's it's very important to remember
government intervention in markets begets more government intervention in markets.
The more the government tries to play god, so to speak,
in where you can live and what you pay and
(23:11):
what you can buy and all this, then there's this
tendency for them to say, oh, we've created a distortion
in the market. Let's let's fix it with more government regulation.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And you all see this in your day to day life.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You know, whenever the government has done something, you're like, well,
that's a dumb idea. What happens later when everyone realizes
the dumb idea, does the government say let's stop.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Doing the dumb thing. No, they generally want to do another.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Dumb thing to fix the dumb thing that they should
not have done in the first place. And with that,
I bring you rent control or a rent freeze, both
of them applicable here in New York City. Oh, let's
just freeze the rent. Well, does that freeze the cost?
Does that freeze taxes on the people who own these buildings?
(23:59):
You know, this is where you start to see the
destructive hand of government and markets, And Mamdanie fundamentally does
not do this is where he's a commie. Well, we'll
just you know, we'll give more to people and then
they'll have more stuff than everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Everybody will be happy.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But no, what about the hand that takes What about
the government hand that says, well, that's mine now, and
I'm going to give it to somebody else. That redistributive mechanism.
You think about housing stock in New York City, there
are fifty thousand, fifty thousand housing units, mostly apartments, some
(24:41):
multifamilies and homes and stuff, but fifty thousand places where
a person or a family could live that are off
the market, off the market entirely and in disrepair, unlivable.
They've got you know, they had some kind of a flaw,
or they have an asbestos problem, or they have whatever
(25:02):
it is.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
And you know why they're off the market.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And not going to be on the market because New
York City pass laws that make it impossible for them,
for the landlords to recoup the cost of what it
would be to make the place livable.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So so you want to talk.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
About artificial housing constraints, these are already These are domiciles
that would be ready to go. You got to put
some money into them. But the landlords realize, if I
can only if I have to spend let's just make
this kind of simple, A one bedroom, a one bedroom apartment.
(25:42):
And if I spend fifty thousd I'm a landlord in
New York.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Right there we go.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I spend fifty thousand dollars to bring that apartment up
to code, make it nice, make it you know, clean, safe,
somebody's going to want to live there. But I can
only raise the rent from what it used to be
fifty dollars a month one hundred dollars a month. I'm
never gonna recoup my investment. I would need to raise
the rent, you know, one thousand dollars a month, or
(26:09):
fifteen hundred dollars a month, or whatever it may be,
and they won't allow it.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And so as a result of all these young people, look,
I can't afford to live in New York.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, that's because the idiot politicians who run New York City,
which is only possible. Also, the New York bureaucracy is
only possible because of the one percent of high earners
in New York who fund all of the madness. Also
true in California. If one percent of New Yorkers left,
I mean that full one percent of top earners, if
(26:38):
all of them left, the whole the whole city budget,
I mean you'd lose half of the revenue be gone.
So because New York has such a concentration of extremely
high earners, they're able to get away with a lot
of really bad policy. It's a bit like a national
government that has a tram this amount of oil. They
(27:01):
can get away with a lot of really bad policy
because oil is going to pay a lot of the bills,
and that's that's like having an ATM machine that's just
spewing out money when you have I think New York
has more obviously more billionaires than anywhere else in the country,
and more extreme high earners, although the Bay are maybe
the Bay Area actually now I'd have to look at
the numbers because of all the tech stuff. There's tremendous
(27:24):
high earners there too. But if you had a flight
of just even half of that one percent the whole city,
even twenty five percent of that one percent, ten percent
of that one percent, the city budget just can't can't work,
can't function. You start to think about how you get
a state in that a federal bailout or something.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
So my problem with.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Mom Donnie, my mom Donnie ism is he has no
response to what I said, other other than to grin
and tell people we're gonna make it better for you.
What I just explained is the reality that there are
artificial constraints on housing that make the existing housing more expensive,
(28:09):
and instead of dealing with those constraints and letting the market,
a lot of people want to live in New York
they could build a lot more housing in New York,
but instead of dealing with that properly, he's going to
punish the people that you actually need to incentivize, landlords, builders, developers.
He's going to punish them more and make the problem worse,
(28:31):
make scarcity a bigger issue. This is exactly what's going
to go on. And then there's the immigration and enforcement
side of Oh wait, sorry, here here we go, Momdanie.
On day one plan this is why I was thinking
about this. I got so fired up at even the
first order of business is to freeze the rent play thirteen.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah. I think that the first order of business will
frankly be the Rent Guidelines Board and freezing the rent
for more than two million rent stabilized tenants. That is
something that happens on an annual basis here in New
York City. The other two, as you referred to, as
making buses fast and free and delivering universal childcare. And
just this past week I had a great meeting with
the Governor where we spoke about our shared focus on
an affordability agenda and on universal childcare particularly, and this
(29:12):
is something that will take a period of time. These
are all promises that I intend to keep over the
time that I am mayor, And I also know that
what they had the potential to do is transform New
Yorker's ability to live in the city.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
This is true, and I know this is going to
sound flippant.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know where they had universal childcare as a matter
of policy, the Soviet Union they did.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Do you think it was any good? No?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
No, you did not want your kids to be in that,
but they did have it so they could have mom
and dad in the factories, the factories that didn't produce
very much, the factories where they pretended to work and
the owners pretended to or the government pretended to pay
them because they were the owners. It's astonishing that this
is where we are a rent freeze in New York.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
This guy got elected.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
This is the problem with Themocrats everybody, And I know
for a lot of you're like buck, I live in Texas.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Why do I care?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Because this is Democrats at the national level too. This
is how they think about everything. They approach it like
a child would approach the problem, instead of looking at
what caused it and brought it to this point, It's like, well,
what bandit can I put on it to make it better. Now,
what lipstick can I put on the pig, so to speak,
to make it prettier. They don't actually look at root causes.
(30:23):
They pretend to care about root causes. They don't care
about root causes. They pretend to care about what got
us here. The worst thing you can do for housing
affordability in New York City overall is more stupid policy
that makes it impossible for there to be more units
on the market, more units being built. That's the worst
thing you can do. And that's what he's doing. So
(30:44):
this guy got elected largely on an issue where not
only will he fail to make it better, he is
inevitably going to make it worse. And this is the
part that will really drive a lot of us crazy,
and certainly a lot of New York is crazy. And
he will tell make no responsibility for it. When he fails,
it'll be somebody else. It'll be the rich, the fat cats.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
The millionaires and the billion is.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It'll be some class warfare nonsense, or it's Donald Trump's.
It'll actually probably be Donald Trump's fault, which is one
of the reasons why I think Trump and Mom Donnie
meeting tomorrow is so interesting because Mom Donnie has Trump
built up as the boogeyman who will be the excuse
for whatever failures Mam Donnie has in New York City,
whatever real market or real economic failures there are, He'll say, well,
(31:31):
it's Trump's fault. Does he have to explain that. No,
it's just going to be something that he says that
makes him feel good.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
So we'll see. I'll take your calls on this.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
And uh.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And also I want to talk about this video that
was made, this video that was put out like a
commercial about not obeying illegal orders from a bunch of
Democrat politicians, including a Senator a Slotkin who right know
she wants to be president.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
By the way, not gonna happen. But talk about that
coming up here in a little bit.
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
We'll take some calls coming up here also talking about
this video that was put out by Alyssa Slotkin and others.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You don't have to bay obey illegal orders military. What
are you like trying to get a mute? You going here?
Speaker 5 (33:34):
What is this.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Subversion? By the way, this is I want to play this.
This is mum Donnie on how to fund some of
his policies.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is cut. This is cut fourteen.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
And he thinks he's going to be able to get
free bussing, but he can't, but he thinks he'll get
it anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Play fourteen.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
You've been talking about fast and free bus. Isn't your
meeting with the governor. I've heard you talk about many
times that you don't want to take money away from
mt You want to put money in. It's something that
she agrees with, right, we don't want to takeway money
from the MCA. How are you getting that money, the
seven hundred millions to make the buses free into the MCA?
If she's not for raising taxes, you.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise
that money is through the raising of the state's corporate
tax to match she's in New Jersey. I think that
a lot of this is still a case to be made,
whether it's the corporate tax or that it's the personal
income tax on those who make more than a million
dollars a year or more. I think that these are
the clearest ways. I've also said that there are other
ways to raise this funding. The most important fact is
that we fund it, not the question of how we
(34:31):
do it, but that we.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Do it, and it'll come from somewhere. He's saying, so
what if the governor is saying, no, you can't just
do that. It's complicated new York City, the Metro Transit Authority,
you know, New York City, new York State government. I
lived there for like thirty something years, and I still
don't even understand where, you know where the Port Authority
and the Metro Transit Authority and all this stuff, the
(34:54):
funding and everything else. It's a bit of a mess.
But the point is Mamdani was told, you can't just
fund this with whatever it was you were planning. The
Governor's office has already said no, we don't want to
do that, and in free, free, but the problem we
already have is people not paying on the bus and
(35:15):
not paying on the subway. That's actually the problem. He
thinks it's gonna get better if you make it free.
Oh gosh, he's going to turn the button. This is
like when Starbucks change their policy, you don't have to
buy anything, just come hang out. Then you get like
homeless people camping out, like vagrants doing fentanel in the bathroom,
(35:36):
and then people who want to buy a coffee don't
want to be there anymore. The bus is going to
turn into a mobile homeless shelter if they if they
manage to get that, and everyone knows it, if they
manage to get this policy to do.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And this is why this guy's a commie.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
He doesn't care what rational thought is and what reality
is about these things.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's just emotion. We'll figure it out, pay for it,
we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
He certainly doesn't want to help out on the immigration
side of things, But man, it's gonna be an interesting,
interesting sit down tomorrow with Trump and commie mom.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Donnie.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Looking forward to diving to that and also looking forward
to taking your calls here coming up eight hundred and
two eighty two to eight eight two. Let's light up
those phone lines. Oh, we've got Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida.
We'll be with us soon and Senator Ron Johnson, So
those will be fascinating conversations, I can assure you, and I.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Think that we're gonna be diving into all that. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I don't think Clay's gonna call in today, but as
in case you missed yesterday, he got to meet with
the Pope.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
See I go meet with the President of Taiwan. He
meets with the Pope. We are international men of mystery
on this show. It is just how we roll.
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