June 23, 2025 • 37 mins
In the opening hour of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive into breaking news about escalating tensions between Iran and the United States following President Trump's ordered strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities. Buck returns from France to discuss how Trump authorized "Bunker Buster" strikes targeting three main nuclear facilities in Iran over the weekend, causing substantial damage. The hosts examine the partisan response, noting that Democrats like AOC quickly called for Trump's impeachment over the military action, which Clay and Buck find hypocritical given similar actions during previous administrations.
The conversation shifts to developing news about Iran's retaliatory missile strikes, with reports of explosions over Doha, Qatar, where U.S. military bases are located. The hosts discuss Iran's announcement of "Operation Baat AFA" targeting American bases, comparing it to Iran's response after the Soleimani assassination when Iran fired approximately 100 missiles at U.S. bases with minimal casualties. Hour 1 also touches on domestic politics, including discussion of Zoran Momani, described as a "shocking socialist" who is surging in New York City's Democratic primary polls, which the hosts view with concern. The show highlights Israeli billboards thanking President Trump for U.S. support amid the ongoing conflict that began with the October 7th Hamas terror attacks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. I am back from France and
very happy to be here with all of you. Still
not one hundred percent on the voice. Sorry about that.
Got a little sick when I was abroad. No shock there.
I don't know, man, this Miami situation, Clay, my immune
system is not what it used to be. If I
don't have perfect weather and the beach nearby that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All the time, anytime you leave and go anywhere. Now
that you're in perfect weather all the time around a
little bit of a subtle shock. You got to get
back to the New York City, got it back to
eaton and you know, rat infested pizza parlors in New
York City, to get the immune system back up and running.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know, communism one of the things you wouldn't expect.
Maybe good for the immune system. Speaking of New York,
we got a lot of stories. Obviously, the Iran situation
will dive into I haven't had a chance to talk
to you about it yet. I'm gone just about a week.
And you know, sure enough, Clay almost gets us into
World War three?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Who knew, Clay? What are you doing? Buddy.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know, I thought you might throw a party. I
didn't think you might start a global conflict. But we've
got a lot to get into with Iran and the
strikes there over the weekend. As you know, President Trump
ordered the bunker busters to be used and substantial damage
done to the three main nuclear facilities in Iran. In Iran,
We've got also some live updates on that one coming
(01:21):
from the news wires here. In just a moment I
mentioned New York City though. This guy's Zoran Mamadani, who
is really a shocking socialist, I mean, is a straight
out of He's actually even crazier I think than Bernie
Sanders in some ways. He is surging ahead in the
Democrat primary polling in my old hometown of New York,
(01:44):
which is just going to be disastrous if he ends
up as much as I I don't know. I just
spise Cuoma because of what he did during COVID, But
I don't think he is a complete lunatic. I think
this guy is a total lunatic politically speaking. He's out
of his mind Mamdani. So we'll get into that. We've
also got gosh, so much as is generally the case
(02:04):
on a Monday, the President weighing in on what will
happen if anybody decides to mess with us. The Iran
strikes obviously occurred over the weekend the US involved. Last
I remember, Clay and I were in the Oval Office
a few hours later these strikes on Ironica by the
(02:25):
Israeli Air Force. That was last not this Thursday, the
Thursday before, right Thursday before that. And so here we
are now really two weeks into this conflict, and over
this weekend, President Trump ordered the deployment of our two
point four billion dollars apiece, when you add the full
scope of the program, in B two bombers, also Tomahawk
(02:48):
missiles fired from our nuclear subs. So two of the
three parts of the nuclear triad involved in the strikes
are nuclear triad involved in the strikes on these reactors
and these research facilities that the Iranians had been operating
and refused to negotiate their way out of this story
right now. And look my assessment, some of you were asking,
(03:10):
and it was really because I was overseas and I
was six hours ahead, and mysel you know, I had
to make sure that I was paying attention to world
events while also representing US abroad for our wonderful advertisers
or possible advertisers. But Clay, I think that a lot
of what you've shared on the strikes I would agree
(03:31):
with in terms of its incredible military precision. Tactically, both
the Israeli and American components of this have been remarkable,
and the Iranian response has been far more inept and
weak than I would have even anticipated. We could have
(03:51):
witnessed what I would call the greatest aerial strike success,
certainly in this century and perhaps even going back a century.
Now we are waiting to see what comes of this, Clay.
We've got the imminent threat. This is the big headline
across Fox News and other sites right now.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
This look, this is the concern.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right The concern is what is the the blowback? What
are the consequences of these strikes? We worry about terrorist cells.
I think that's the highest likelihood threat, but also the
lowest impact threat against US strategic interests. You know of
some lunatic somewhere, you know, God forbid, but he shoots
a few people or worse, that's not going to change
(04:33):
the trajectory of the War of the Middle least, it's
just a spie act of a terrorist or spiteful act
of a terrorist. But you have something here where you
have military action that is apparently imminent from the Iranian
regime firing at bases in our US base and Cutter,
so striking obviously Katari soil and going after or rather
(04:56):
you know, in the sovereignty of Cutter, going after US
base is placed there.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
If this happens, I think we can expect a.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Major escalation, a retaliatory escalation clay from Trump. And I
think that this is the concern a lot of people have.
What we've seen so far has been a remarkable success.
What happens next is the big question.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Look, I think welcome back and glad to have you
back stateside. And I think that Trump had to make
the most consequential decision of his presidency so far, and
I think he made the right one. And so Saturday
evening we attacked the B two bomber pilots, all of
(05:37):
the individuals who fired the shots from.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Our submarines.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's an incredible statement for American no how and I
think you also have to extend it. We have talked
a lot about this. There were no leaks. Trump one
point zero was a sieve. Everything immediately got out Trump
two point zero, Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Jade Vance, obviously
(06:04):
Trump himself, everybody in the National Security team, Tulsea Gabbard.
They delivered a magisterial plan and performance in terms of
the attacks.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Now you went through this once before.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
To me, the question that we are monitoring, as we
are speaking to all of you, is how will Iran respond?
And there seems to be an expectation that they will
respond in some way by attempting to attack American forces
in the Middle East, which is not dissimilar to what happened.
And you could probably speak to this very well. After
(06:44):
Trump killed Cassim Solimani and so many people out there said, oh, Mike,
you remember World War three was trending. Everybody lost their minds.
There were injuries to American troops, thankfully no deaths, and
then it was like, okay, Iran got to have their
public reprisal against the Great Satan, but it was not
(07:08):
a substantial response in terms of its devastating impact by
any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And we moved on.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I wonder what the decision is going to be of
the Ayah tolahs from a face saving perspective, what will
they do now? I think is one of the questions
that lingers. I think you would sign off with me
on Trump's decision to wipe out much of the nuclear
capabilities of Iran sent an important message. It was necessary
(07:37):
since Iran seemed to have no interest in actually negotiating,
we kind of forecast that this would be likely the outcome.
I think the vast majority of the Trump supporters, voters,
all of you out there listening, agree, Some disagree, and
that's okay. It's healthy to disagree. We should have big
debates in public on major issues. But I think now
(07:57):
the question is what's next.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, I also think think that it's not a finished
situation by any means, And so for anyone to come
to a conclusion on this, uh, you know, you have
to remember everyone I worked in that Office of Iraq Analysis,
it was called actually OIA, that had been the place
that was also responsible for before I got there. Don't
(08:20):
blame me for the WMD analysis largely in Iraq. And
to look at what the Iraq War was, now that's
a that's a full scale invasion.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's very different.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I understand this and One of the problems we have
here is that people can pick their you know, this
is this World War two and Neville Chamberlain situation, or
is this Gulf of Tonkin incident or is everyone can
pick whatever the historical analogy they want is for this
situation and try to find a way to fit this in.
This is a no surprise, is a unique and complicated
(08:53):
circumstance that is specific to exactly what we are seeing here.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Meaning you can.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Draw some lessons from other things, but nothing else is
a roadmap for this, because this is still happening and
this is different from everything else that we have seen.
Can the government lie to you, Yes? Absolutely, is Mission
creeper real thing? Absolutely? Should there be concerns about you know,
those as well as other aspects of this, Yes there should. However,
(09:18):
so far, what we've seen is the Irani nuclear program
brought to an end with minimal casualties both on the
good guy side and minimal civilian casualties on the Iranian side,
and the response from the Iranians has been almost nothing.
I mean, let's just call up what it is. The
Iranians have been, I think taken very much by surprise
(09:41):
by how effective these strikes were and as I said
initially when this first happened, when the Israelis opened up,
if you have a great capability to counter attack somebody,
you don't let your entire military leadership get wiped out
in the first hour of the war. Okay, that's the truth.
There's no playing possum here. There's no oh wait, we
we're lulling them into a full sense of false sense
(10:05):
of security by letting them take out, you know, most
of our major military assets, most of our military leadership.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, of course not.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So you're talking about a largely defanged Iranian military. Certainly
for external operations at this point. It's very different when
you get into something like nation building or counterinsurgency or
regime change or anything like that. Then it's just people
walking around the streets with Ak forty seven. Can you
know ruin a much larger armory. We've we've learned that lesson,
(10:34):
but we're not there. So we need to line these
things up with where we are. And I just clay
one thing. I was observing a lot of this as
I was in France and doing my thing and smoking
my Actually I.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Did not smoke any Gala was because that would that would.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Have been bad for my could But I observed all
these things, and people want to declare things as either right,
that they were either right or wrong based on what's happened,
And I would just say that nobody knows yet.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Really.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If you've been saying world War three would break out
right away, yeah, clearly that's not true. The notion that
the Iranian that the Iranians we're going to be able
to turn to Russia and China and those two countries
were going to militarily intervene against the United States or
that's insane. And I saw a lot of people saying that. Unfortunately,
that's just not based in any reality of anyone who
understands really how national security works at the most fundamental level,
(11:24):
because there's no interest in those countries in doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Why would they do that? Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But then again, we're waiting to see, as we talk
to you right now, in real time, if there are
major strikes on US military basis and what that looks
like and what our countermeasures are. So I just say
to everybody, we don't know yet. We're watching this as
it goes. I think Trump made the right call. I
think the Israelis so far were far more successful than
(11:53):
most people anticipated they could be this quickly. Now we
see what happens next. Now we see what the next
phase is. So I will take calls on this and
dive into it more here and Clay's watching closely on
the monitors as we see Iman. Obviously we're thinking about
our troops too, and we don't want we don't want
to have any losses on our side, so we'll watch this.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I think what you hit as we go to break here,
Buck is super significant. Iran is isolated, and pay attention
to what people do, not always what they say. There's
nobody in the Middle East that is actually lined up
aggressively behind Iran. In fact, most of them are behind
Israel in the United States, And on top of that,
this idea that somehow China or Russia we're going to
(12:34):
get involved. China and Russia don't actually want I don't
think a nuclear Iran. I don't think they trust the
Ayatolas with nuclear weapons, and so they have been very
muted in their criticisms as well. Some countries are going
to chirp, but in terms of actions, I don't know
that we have ever seen Iran more isolated in terms
(12:56):
of actual support and backing, which is why the idea
of oh what comes next World War? Iie, No, actually,
there aren't people allied with Iran who were willing to
put themselves on the line over this. Now again, we
may well get an Iranian response officially live on the
air as this show progresses, based on the way things
(13:18):
are looking right now, we will update you on the
latest there. But in terms of everything falling apart after
this strike, to me so far, it feels like the
Solmani assassination, where Iran talks a big game but isn't
able to actually respond in a significant way, and maybe
doesn't even want to respond in a significant way.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I was aware, Clay very of the highest level discussions
back in the Iraq War days. I want to say,
you know, late in the Bush administration, early the Obama
administration in that era, high level discussions about what to
do when it came to the IRGC coulds force and
Solomani and the consensus on the policy side, not from
(13:58):
the war. The war fighters wanted to take him out
because he was killing more fellow warfighters. He was just
handing these EFPs explosly foreign penetrators to the Shea militias
to deploy specifically against our troops. They wanted to take
them out. Policy community said, oh no, it'll it'll create
so much of a you know, we'll have to worry
about the Arab streets so much or whatever. They were wrong.
(14:20):
So on the costom Solomoni thing, we saw the results.
We saw what happened to the people that said you
can't hit that guy. They were wrong and Trump proved
them wrong. So now we see it's going to take
a little more time. We see taking out the reactors,
the US getting involved in taking out the reactors. Was
this a brilliant master stroke tactically and otherwise to end
(14:40):
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Speaker 4 (16:05):
Welcome back in Play.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Travis Buck Sexton Show. It probably is not going to
surprise you. And by the way, I don't think we
have any guest schedule today, so we'll take some of
your calls.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Talkbacks were phenomenal last week.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
If you want to be able to ask questions, get
in rapidly eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two. It probably will not surprise you that Democrats,
even though they shouldn't necessarily be lining up because this
is this is something that should be not particularly partisan
in nature, that virtually every Democrat has lined up saying
(16:38):
that what Trump did is not only unacceptable, but AOC
within an hour of the attacks said that Trump had
to be impeached, which even for me, who expected them
to behave in an outrageous fashion, even for me, I
saw that and I thought this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Impeached for this, But this was AOC response.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Obama drones like to sixteen year old American citizen that
actually happened.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
A sixteen year old yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And knew what he was, you know, He's like sorry,
you know, and we're Alacki's son, like, gotta take him out.
And then they tried to say, oh, it's classified, no
one can talk about it. Though yeah, and then the
press all wrote about it. I mean this, they said, Clay,
we have dropped under the Obama year. Specifically, we were
dropping bombs in Libya. We all know about that, and
you know we drop bombs at Syria and some all yeah,
(17:28):
I mean, you get on the list.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And now all of a sudden, they're like, you can't
take a strike. That's an American interest.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But as a Ninth Circuit judge going to enjoin Trump
from doing anything for the military.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That was what was trending after the attacks was that
a federal District court judge had mandated that Trump had
to clean up the mess from the attacks in Iran,
which sadly is not far from the truth if you
look from even this weekend some of the rulings from judges.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
We'll take your reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 3 (19:00):
All right, welcome back into play end Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
We're still waiting for the updates if and when they
come in on this report of the imminent threat against
US military base in Cutter. We've also got more updates
from the region on what Israel has been hitting. You see, Clay,
they blew the doors off of, or the gates off
of the infamous Evan prison in Iran, which is where
(19:27):
they keep political prisoners, you know, high profile prisoners. It's
really just blew the gates open. It's on the front
page or on the It's funny, I say, front pages
if I actually like clay read paper papers, but you
know it's on the website.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I was walking around trying to find paper paper this
morning in Michigan. I'm doing the show from up here,
and I finally found paper paper to sit down and
do all my reading.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You and my dad, I don't even know he's you
guys can both also maneuver it around like it's no
problem on it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's large. Gets driven crazy by the amount of sound.
And even when I if there's a p if there's
an article on multiple pages, She's like, I don't even
want I don't even want to read it.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I don't know why they have to put it on
two pages.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I co sign with her on that one. But here
is from the weekend. I wanted you to hear it
from President Trump himself. Remember, this is a big decision
made by the Commander in chief to follow up the
Iranian strikes with a military capability that only the United
States has that really goes to among our most expensive
(20:30):
and a high tech and sensitive from a classified and
proprietary perspective, I mean, this is something we can do
no one else on the planet can do what the
US military did with these strikes in Iran. President over
the weekend, at about ten Eastern time on Saturday, addressed
the nation. He had Jad Kerry and I watched it
(20:53):
live as it happened. I'm sure many of you did
as well. But just so you can get a sense
as to what the President's view of the strikes does.
This happened on Some of you might not have even
heard it. This is cut one play it.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
A short time ago, the US military carried out massive
precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the
Iranian regime for doau Ntance and Esfahan. Everybody heard those
names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Our objective was.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
The destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop
to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one
state sponsor of terror.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Tonight, I can report to the.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
World that the strikes were a spectacular military success.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Iran's key nuclear.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
And Richmond facilities.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Have been completely and totally obliterated. Rand the bully of
the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not,
future attacks would be far greater.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And a lot easier to you. He made it very clear.
First of all, he's had spectacular success. And you know,
President Trump in what I think will be one of
the more memorable moments of not just his second term,
but really of his entire president presidency.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
When all is said and done, there's a big moment. Clay.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We've been talking about the Iranian nuclear facilities and possible
strikes on them for decades now, I mean, this has
been a conversation going on for a very long time.
But notice this, Clay, and this is the part of
it that I think has to be factored into our
calculations about the success of this and about the risk
reward calculations. He's let the Iranians know if you mess around, now,
(22:39):
you know, that's it.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
We did our thing. We hit your facility.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
If you come at us with some terror strike or
you do something somewhere, we can hit you a lot
harder wherever we want to hit you.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's not worth it to you.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So the question is what is the calculation made by
the Mullahs, by the Iranian regime itself. That's what remains
to be seen, and we could be finding out at
any moment.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, reports that the expected attack is in Qatar. I
mean question for you, if we have all of the
intel about where the attack is coming from, and theoretically
we're gonna remove our troops to keep them safe, how
much of letting them have a couple of missiles land
(23:22):
is just for show? In other words, it almost feels
like allowing your sparring partner to you know, kind of
catch you one in the ribs when you know it's
coming and it's not actually in any kind of significant danger,
because you're giving them the opportunity to look like, hey,
(23:42):
we returned fire, even though look if on a scale
of one to ten, our attack on them was a ten,
if they punched back with a one, it's like, Okay,
nothing really happened, but you're allowing them to save face
a bit. I mean, how much of this is in
other words, kabuki theater or almost on our side?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And this brings up and I know a lot of
you and we'll take some calls and some talkbacks on this,
because it's in there's in maga world. As you all know,
there are very very fervently held beliefs on this particular
issue that are not all in alignment. Okay, you really
have a non interventionist.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
What are we doing? Have we not learned the lessons
wing of MAGA right now?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And then you have a Israel needs to not live
under the specter of nuclear threat from lunatics and this
is the time and we can do it, and we've
done it, and you know you have these two different
I'm very aware of this. I've been reading and a
lot of you know, some of the big voices on
one side, some of the big voices on the on
the other side.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So we have room for this discussion here. But Clay,
to the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Point you're making it, it's about, well, do we want
you know, there's we want.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Let me be very clear about how I'm saying this.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There's what we like a regime change to occur, and
then there's do we want to take part in.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Any kind of regime change?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And do we realize if we go with number two,
what the implications of that may be. Like there's these
different phases or different tiers. I think that the Trump
administration wants a new government in Iran, but I think
they're very careful about not involving themselves further in overthrowing
the existing government, because we don't want to be in
(25:29):
a situation where there's Mission Creep and we're doing what
you know that and and I completely share that sentiment.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
We should not be rebuilding.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Or in charge of Iraq. You you were there so
serving the country. So I mean, you know which, I
know a lot of listeners were.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I was not.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Most listeners were not. I would imagine your perspective, but
I was. I was interested to hear your perspective on
this in particular. There are obviously differences between Iran and Iraq,
but your perspective would be But I'm curious to hear
having seen the United States try to engineer a government
in Iraq. Now, Iran was involved in helping to try
(26:10):
to stop that from being in any way.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Successful, deeply involved.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, it really subverted our efforts in the most
malicious ways they could.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But yeah, and I think a lot of times people
miss that that Iran has been a malign influence basically
on any thing that could be good in the Middle
East for some time to come.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But having been there.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I imagine you don't think it's a good idea to
have boots on the ground trying to impact in the
event there were regime change, the decisions made by the
Iranian people.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It's a that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Would be an absolutely horrible idea, and there's one that
I would vociferously oppose in whatever ways are available to me.
Having seen Clayton, not just the reality in Rock, the
really in Afghanistan. Yeah, I saw even in two thousand.
I was an Afghanistan in twenty ten, and it was
when Obama had decided that this was the good war
in Iraq was the bad war. And anybody who was
(27:01):
in Afghanistan then, and remember I had essentially like delivery
of I was almost like a highly classified gopher. I
would deliver classified among principles in theater. So I would
take the stuff to the ambassador. I would take the
stuff to the four star general, and I mean hand
carry like you know, hard copy stuff. And I just
(27:24):
remember any of this, and I had to read the assessments.
I had to be familiar with what was going on.
If you knew what was going on in I Rock,
I mean in Afghanistan in twenty ten, you knew that
the policy was failing and had no chance of success.
But what happens is that at all everything gets cleaned
up when you get to the I wasn't in the military,
but the guys would say when it gets to like
the brigade or sorry, it gets to the division level,
(27:46):
and then the command level, all the assessments from brigade
and battalion and company, all this stuff that the guys
who are actually seeing it gets cleaned up to.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, no, we're doing great.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's working really well because the four star doesn't want
to tell the president your idea is suck and this
is never gonna work, or you know, our ideas suck
and this is never gonna work. So yeah, that is
a lesson that I think was learned very painfully by
us in both the Rock and Afghanistan. And so that's
something that we have to keep in mind here. But
I think that right now we're not there. Not everything is,
(28:17):
you know, just like not everything is Vietnam, that everything
is World War two. Uh, this is its own situation
and so far, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You have an update on that?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, we just got breaking news reports of explosions in
katar H And this is from Baraka re Vied I believe,
who's a reporter at Axios.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
An Israeli official says Iran has launched six missiles towards
US bases in Qatar. So as we were telling you
that it was likely to happen, we will keep you
updated on the absolute latest there. But that report just
coming down in the last two minutes or so.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, well, yes, so to your question though, so there's
the regime change conversation that fact is in now to
everything that comes from this, you know, the aftermath of
the US strikes of the nuclear facilities. How do we
avoid getting drawn into that. I think there's pretty clear
I shouldn't say universal or clear agreement, but there's pretty
(29:14):
widespread agreement among MAGA. I'm not even Democrats just hate
Trump and they hate every I can't even you know
what do they They just need to figure out why
they exist other than hating Trump. And that's their own problem.
In terms of Republicans, in terms of the Trump Trump
voters out there, there's a I think a broad rejection
(29:35):
of any intervention that would require US boots on the
ground or anything like that. But that's that's one thing
that we have now though we look at the escalator
or the escalation and back and forth that would happen
after something like this Clay, if Iran hits military bases,
that is a proportionate response in some way to what
(29:58):
we did that would not It doesn't mean that we're
going to allow them to do it. It doesn't mean
that we don't necessarily exact a price for them doing it,
but it wouldn't result. And I think in escalation where
we go, Okay, now we're really gonna make things more
painful for Iran, substantially more so than we already have,
and then the Israelis already had.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
If they do.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Something horrific, I mean, I don't want to get into it,
but something al Qaeda style, which is really the concern here.
The concern is that the Iranian regime an IRGC who's
every bit. I mean, look at the bombing of the
well that was a military target, but you look at
the bombing marine barracks. They've been involved in mass casualty
terrorism in the past. If they do that against the
civilian target, then I think the question turns to or
(30:39):
the likelihood is that the Trump administration goes and takes
out the remnants of senior Iranian leadership. That's I think
Trump has intimated that essentially. Okay, if you order, if
the Ayatola orders mass casualty civilian murder.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Anywhere in the world, you know, against Americans, Israelis.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You're like, then you are mulla Omar. We've bin laden
to the Taliban. Then we're in a whole different world
of how we're going to handle this. So that's what
I think remains to be seen. If they just strike
our military bases, I don't think not that that's we
told them not to do that. We may hit their
bases more in retaliation and say are you done yet?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Are you done yet?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But if they do something against civilians, then I think
that you might just decide, we might decide to decapitate
what's left of the regime. That's what I think could happen.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Trump is in the situation room, by the way, which
suggests we'll give you the latest on this again. Reports
that six different missiles fired by Iran at Qatar and
our military base presumably there. Again, this is we will
give you the latest. There's video out there showing those
missiles coming in it's night in the in the Middle
(31:51):
East right now, at least in Qatar, and we'll give
you the absolute latest on that. But the reason why
it suggests that we were very well away where that
this was coming is because the President was already in
the situation room, and I'm sure they are monitoring in
real time what exactly happens there, So we will give
(32:12):
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Speaker 2 (33:33):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, we
have got continued responding to the reports of attacks that
have been levied. This is from Fox News. Explosions heard
over Doha and there are videos out there. This is
(33:56):
also in Buck. I don't know how to pronounced this,
and inevitably I screw up every pronunciation. But Iran is
calling this operation Basharat al Foth against US bases have begun,
and so it would suggest that not just Qatar, but
also other US bases in the Middle East may be targeted.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Again.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
This is not dissimilar to what we saw after the Solamani.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Attack when we assessed they fired.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
A lot of after we took out Solomani, after Trump
ordered that hit, which happened on a rocky soil as
you remember a drone strike, the Iranians fired a lot
of ballistic missiles at I think like one hundred missiles
at US bases in the region. They may remember if
you've never a lot of you have served, you know,
some of these military bases are a couple of miles across.
(34:47):
I mean they're huge, So even a pretty substantial missile,
if it were to impact as long as people are
sheltering in place, is unlikely. There were no deaths from
those strikes, American deaths. There were some tv I traumatic
braining injuries from the concussive force of the missiles, but
that was it. And I think did the Iranians shoot
down a Ukrainian airliner by accident?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, they killed almost two hundred people as a part
of that response, which was actually the most devastating aspect
of the response, and it was an inadvertant.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
This is a reminder the iran is a poor third
world country. Because of the people in charge, it actually
should be a great place. But that's a whole other conversation.
It's a poor third world, dysfunctional country with a.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Really inept military.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I mean the truth is the Iranians, I mean, yeah,
they're good at they're they're good at at killing like
innocent people, or they're good at you know, ambushing peacekeepers
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
They can't actually go toe to toe with it advanced
military at all, not even a little bit. That's the truth.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
So you know, what were they what were they doing
in Iraq? They were just making it a hell, a
hellish nightmare for everybody, for the Iraqis who were there
by killing Americans who are effectively trying to keep the
lights on and get the sewage cleaned as.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Because they feared if Iraq was in some way a
peaceful Middle Eastern country, that power would be impacted exactly
by the way, also reports out there and certainly our
prayers for all the troops that are in the Middle East,
that air defense systems have been activated at the US
air base in Iraq as well. So much like what
(36:23):
we saw with Sola money, there is going to be
an attempt to extract revenge in some way, and we
will continue to update you on the absolute latest. If
US military base is under attack right now as we're
talking missiles interorrect So will continue to follow this and
again the President in the Situation Room, they are monitoring
(36:45):
it in real time. I would suspect buck that we
may get a statement from the White House sooner rather
than later, when we have some sort of finality on
exactly what happens here.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
We're definitely going to get a truth social post. I mean,
Trump's sure to let this go.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
M
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. I am back from France and
very happy to be here with all of you. Still
not one hundred percent on the voice. Sorry about that.
Got a little sick when I was abroad. No shock there.
I don't know, man, this Miami situation, Clay, my immune
system is not what it used to be. If I
don't have perfect weather and the beach nearby that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All the time, anytime you leave and go anywhere. Now
that you're in perfect weather all the time around a
little bit of a subtle shock. You got to get
back to the New York City, got it back to
eaton and you know, rat infested pizza parlors in New
York City, to get the immune system back up and running.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know, communism one of the things you wouldn't expect.
Maybe good for the immune system. Speaking of New York,
we got a lot of stories. Obviously, the Iran situation
will dive into I haven't had a chance to talk
to you about it yet. I'm gone just about a week.
And you know, sure enough, Clay almost gets us into
World War three?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Who knew, Clay? What are you doing? Buddy.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You know, I thought you might throw a party. I
didn't think you might start a global conflict. But we've
got a lot to get into with Iran and the
strikes there over the weekend. As you know, President Trump
ordered the bunker busters to be used and substantial damage
done to the three main nuclear facilities in Iran. In Iran,
We've got also some live updates on that one coming
(01:21):
from the news wires here. In just a moment I
mentioned New York City though. This guy's Zoran Mamadani, who
is really a shocking socialist, I mean, is a straight
out of He's actually even crazier I think than Bernie
Sanders in some ways. He is surging ahead in the
Democrat primary polling in my old hometown of New York,
(01:44):
which is just going to be disastrous if he ends
up as much as I I don't know. I just
spise Cuoma because of what he did during COVID, But
I don't think he is a complete lunatic. I think
this guy is a total lunatic politically speaking. He's out
of his mind Mamdani. So we'll get into that. We've
also got gosh, so much as is generally the case
(02:04):
on a Monday, the President weighing in on what will
happen if anybody decides to mess with us. The Iran
strikes obviously occurred over the weekend the US involved. Last
I remember, Clay and I were in the Oval Office
a few hours later these strikes on Ironica by the
(02:25):
Israeli Air Force. That was last not this Thursday, the
Thursday before, right Thursday before that. And so here we
are now really two weeks into this conflict, and over
this weekend, President Trump ordered the deployment of our two
point four billion dollars apiece, when you add the full
scope of the program, in B two bombers, also Tomahawk
(02:48):
missiles fired from our nuclear subs. So two of the
three parts of the nuclear triad involved in the strikes
are nuclear triad involved in the strikes on these reactors
and these research facilities that the Iranians had been operating
and refused to negotiate their way out of this story
right now. And look my assessment, some of you were asking,
(03:10):
and it was really because I was overseas and I
was six hours ahead, and mysel you know, I had
to make sure that I was paying attention to world
events while also representing US abroad for our wonderful advertisers
or possible advertisers. But Clay, I think that a lot
of what you've shared on the strikes I would agree
(03:31):
with in terms of its incredible military precision. Tactically, both
the Israeli and American components of this have been remarkable,
and the Iranian response has been far more inept and
weak than I would have even anticipated. We could have
(03:51):
witnessed what I would call the greatest aerial strike success,
certainly in this century and perhaps even going back a century.
Now we are waiting to see what comes of this, Clay.
We've got the imminent threat. This is the big headline
across Fox News and other sites right now.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
This look, this is the concern.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right The concern is what is the the blowback? What
are the consequences of these strikes? We worry about terrorist cells.
I think that's the highest likelihood threat, but also the
lowest impact threat against US strategic interests. You know of
some lunatic somewhere, you know, God forbid, but he shoots
a few people or worse, that's not going to change
(04:33):
the trajectory of the War of the Middle least, it's
just a spie act of a terrorist or spiteful act
of a terrorist. But you have something here where you
have military action that is apparently imminent from the Iranian
regime firing at bases in our US base and Cutter,
so striking obviously Katari soil and going after or rather
(04:56):
you know, in the sovereignty of Cutter, going after US
base is placed there.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
If this happens, I think we can expect a.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Major escalation, a retaliatory escalation clay from Trump. And I
think that this is the concern a lot of people have.
What we've seen so far has been a remarkable success.
What happens next is the big question.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Look, I think welcome back and glad to have you
back stateside. And I think that Trump had to make
the most consequential decision of his presidency so far, and
I think he made the right one. And so Saturday
evening we attacked the B two bomber pilots, all of
(05:37):
the individuals who fired the shots from.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Our submarines.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's an incredible statement for American no how and I
think you also have to extend it. We have talked
a lot about this. There were no leaks. Trump one
point zero was a sieve. Everything immediately got out Trump
two point zero, Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Jade Vance, obviously
(06:04):
Trump himself, everybody in the National Security team, Tulsea Gabbard.
They delivered a magisterial plan and performance in terms of
the attacks.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Now you went through this once before.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
To me, the question that we are monitoring, as we
are speaking to all of you, is how will Iran respond?
And there seems to be an expectation that they will
respond in some way by attempting to attack American forces
in the Middle East, which is not dissimilar to what happened.
And you could probably speak to this very well. After
(06:44):
Trump killed Cassim Solimani and so many people out there said, oh, Mike,
you remember World War three was trending. Everybody lost their minds.
There were injuries to American troops, thankfully no deaths, and
then it was like, okay, Iran got to have their
public reprisal against the Great Satan, but it was not
(07:08):
a substantial response in terms of its devastating impact by
any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And we moved on.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I wonder what the decision is going to be of
the Ayah tolahs from a face saving perspective, what will
they do now? I think is one of the questions
that lingers. I think you would sign off with me
on Trump's decision to wipe out much of the nuclear
capabilities of Iran sent an important message. It was necessary
(07:37):
since Iran seemed to have no interest in actually negotiating,
we kind of forecast that this would be likely the outcome.
I think the vast majority of the Trump supporters, voters,
all of you out there listening, agree, Some disagree, and
that's okay. It's healthy to disagree. We should have big
debates in public on major issues. But I think now
(07:57):
the question is what's next.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, I also think think that it's not a finished
situation by any means, And so for anyone to come
to a conclusion on this, uh, you know, you have
to remember everyone I worked in that Office of Iraq Analysis,
it was called actually OIA, that had been the place
that was also responsible for before I got there. Don't
(08:20):
blame me for the WMD analysis largely in Iraq. And
to look at what the Iraq War was, now that's
a that's a full scale invasion.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's very different.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I understand this and One of the problems we have
here is that people can pick their you know, this
is this World War two and Neville Chamberlain situation, or
is this Gulf of Tonkin incident or is everyone can
pick whatever the historical analogy they want is for this
situation and try to find a way to fit this in.
This is a no surprise, is a unique and complicated
(08:53):
circumstance that is specific to exactly what we are seeing here.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Meaning you can.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Draw some lessons from other things, but nothing else is
a roadmap for this, because this is still happening and
this is different from everything else that we have seen.
Can the government lie to you, Yes? Absolutely, is Mission
creeper real thing? Absolutely? Should there be concerns about you know,
those as well as other aspects of this, Yes there should. However,
(09:18):
so far, what we've seen is the Irani nuclear program
brought to an end with minimal casualties both on the
good guy side and minimal civilian casualties on the Iranian side,
and the response from the Iranians has been almost nothing.
I mean, let's just call up what it is. The
Iranians have been, I think taken very much by surprise
(09:41):
by how effective these strikes were and as I said
initially when this first happened, when the Israelis opened up,
if you have a great capability to counter attack somebody,
you don't let your entire military leadership get wiped out
in the first hour of the war. Okay, that's the truth.
There's no playing possum here. There's no oh wait, we
we're lulling them into a full sense of false sense
(10:05):
of security by letting them take out, you know, most
of our major military assets, most of our military leadership.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, of course not.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So you're talking about a largely defanged Iranian military. Certainly
for external operations at this point. It's very different when
you get into something like nation building or counterinsurgency or
regime change or anything like that. Then it's just people
walking around the streets with Ak forty seven. Can you
know ruin a much larger armory. We've we've learned that lesson,
(10:34):
but we're not there. So we need to line these
things up with where we are. And I just clay
one thing. I was observing a lot of this as
I was in France and doing my thing and smoking
my Actually I.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Did not smoke any Gala was because that would that would.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Have been bad for my could But I observed all
these things, and people want to declare things as either right,
that they were either right or wrong based on what's happened,
And I would just say that nobody knows yet.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Really.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If you've been saying world War three would break out
right away, yeah, clearly that's not true. The notion that
the Iranian that the Iranians we're going to be able
to turn to Russia and China and those two countries
were going to militarily intervene against the United States or
that's insane. And I saw a lot of people saying that. Unfortunately,
that's just not based in any reality of anyone who
understands really how national security works at the most fundamental level,
(11:24):
because there's no interest in those countries in doing that.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Why would they do that? Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But then again, we're waiting to see, as we talk
to you right now, in real time, if there are
major strikes on US military basis and what that looks
like and what our countermeasures are. So I just say
to everybody, we don't know yet. We're watching this as
it goes. I think Trump made the right call. I
think the Israelis so far were far more successful than
(11:53):
most people anticipated they could be this quickly. Now we
see what happens next. Now we see what the next
phase is. So I will take calls on this and
dive into it more here and Clay's watching closely on
the monitors as we see Iman. Obviously we're thinking about
our troops too, and we don't want we don't want
to have any losses on our side, so we'll watch this.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I think what you hit as we go to break here,
Buck is super significant. Iran is isolated, and pay attention
to what people do, not always what they say. There's
nobody in the Middle East that is actually lined up
aggressively behind Iran. In fact, most of them are behind
Israel in the United States, And on top of that,
this idea that somehow China or Russia we're going to
(12:34):
get involved. China and Russia don't actually want I don't
think a nuclear Iran. I don't think they trust the
Ayatolas with nuclear weapons, and so they have been very
muted in their criticisms as well. Some countries are going
to chirp, but in terms of actions, I don't know
that we have ever seen Iran more isolated in terms
(12:56):
of actual support and backing, which is why the idea
of oh what comes next World War? Iie, No, actually,
there aren't people allied with Iran who were willing to
put themselves on the line over this. Now again, we
may well get an Iranian response officially live on the
air as this show progresses, based on the way things
(13:18):
are looking right now, we will update you on the
latest there. But in terms of everything falling apart after
this strike, to me so far, it feels like the
Solmani assassination, where Iran talks a big game but isn't
able to actually respond in a significant way, and maybe
doesn't even want to respond in a significant way.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I was aware, Clay very of the highest level discussions
back in the Iraq War days. I want to say,
you know, late in the Bush administration, early the Obama
administration in that era, high level discussions about what to
do when it came to the IRGC coulds force and
Solomani and the consensus on the policy side, not from
(13:58):
the war. The war fighters wanted to take him out
because he was killing more fellow warfighters. He was just
handing these EFPs explosly foreign penetrators to the Shea militias
to deploy specifically against our troops. They wanted to take
them out. Policy community said, oh no, it'll it'll create
so much of a you know, we'll have to worry
about the Arab streets so much or whatever. They were wrong.
(14:20):
So on the costom Solomoni thing, we saw the results.
We saw what happened to the people that said you
can't hit that guy. They were wrong and Trump proved
them wrong. So now we see it's going to take
a little more time. We see taking out the reactors,
the US getting involved in taking out the reactors. Was
this a brilliant master stroke tactically and otherwise to end
(14:40):
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Speaker 4 (16:15):
Talkbacks were phenomenal last week.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
If you want to be able to ask questions, get
in rapidly eight hundred and two A two two eight
A two. It probably will not surprise you that Democrats,
even though they shouldn't necessarily be lining up because this
is this is something that should be not particularly partisan
in nature, that virtually every Democrat has lined up saying
(16:38):
that what Trump did is not only unacceptable, but AOC
within an hour of the attacks said that Trump had
to be impeached, which even for me, who expected them
to behave in an outrageous fashion, even for me, I
saw that and I thought this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Impeached for this, But this was AOC response.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Obama drones like to sixteen year old American citizen that
actually happened.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
A sixteen year old yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And knew what he was, you know, He's like sorry,
you know, and we're Alacki's son, like, gotta take him out.
And then they tried to say, oh, it's classified, no
one can talk about it. Though yeah, and then the
press all wrote about it. I mean this, they said, Clay,
we have dropped under the Obama year. Specifically, we were
dropping bombs in Libya. We all know about that, and
you know we drop bombs at Syria and some all yeah,
(17:28):
I mean, you get on the list.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And now all of a sudden, they're like, you can't
take a strike. That's an American interest.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But as a Ninth Circuit judge going to enjoin Trump
from doing anything for the military.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That was what was trending after the attacks was that
a federal District court judge had mandated that Trump had
to clean up the mess from the attacks in Iran,
which sadly is not far from the truth if you
look from even this weekend some of the rulings from judges.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
We'll take your reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 3 (19:00):
All right, welcome back into play end Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
We're still waiting for the updates if and when they
come in on this report of the imminent threat against
US military base in Cutter. We've also got more updates
from the region on what Israel has been hitting. You see, Clay,
they blew the doors off of, or the gates off
of the infamous Evan prison in Iran, which is where
(19:27):
they keep political prisoners, you know, high profile prisoners. It's
really just blew the gates open. It's on the front
page or on the It's funny, I say, front pages
if I actually like clay read paper papers, but you
know it's on the website.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I was walking around trying to find paper paper this
morning in Michigan. I'm doing the show from up here,
and I finally found paper paper to sit down and
do all my reading.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You and my dad, I don't even know he's you
guys can both also maneuver it around like it's no
problem on it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's large. Gets driven crazy by the amount of sound.
And even when I if there's a p if there's
an article on multiple pages, She's like, I don't even
want I don't even want to read it.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I don't know why they have to put it on
two pages.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I co sign with her on that one. But here
is from the weekend. I wanted you to hear it
from President Trump himself. Remember, this is a big decision
made by the Commander in chief to follow up the
Iranian strikes with a military capability that only the United
States has that really goes to among our most expensive
(20:30):
and a high tech and sensitive from a classified and
proprietary perspective, I mean, this is something we can do
no one else on the planet can do what the
US military did with these strikes in Iran. President over
the weekend, at about ten Eastern time on Saturday, addressed
the nation. He had Jad Kerry and I watched it
(20:53):
live as it happened. I'm sure many of you did
as well. But just so you can get a sense
as to what the President's view of the strikes does.
This happened on Some of you might not have even
heard it. This is cut one play it.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
A short time ago, the US military carried out massive
precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the
Iranian regime for doau Ntance and Esfahan. Everybody heard those
names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Our objective was.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
The destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop
to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one
state sponsor of terror.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Tonight, I can report to the.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
World that the strikes were a spectacular military success.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Iran's key nuclear.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
And Richmond facilities.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Have been completely and totally obliterated. Rand the bully of
the Middle East, must now make peace. If they do not,
future attacks would be far greater.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And a lot easier to you. He made it very clear.
First of all, he's had spectacular success. And you know,
President Trump in what I think will be one of
the more memorable moments of not just his second term,
but really of his entire president presidency.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
When all is said and done, there's a big moment. Clay.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We've been talking about the Iranian nuclear facilities and possible
strikes on them for decades now, I mean, this has
been a conversation going on for a very long time.
But notice this, Clay, and this is the part of
it that I think has to be factored into our
calculations about the success of this and about the risk
reward calculations. He's let the Iranians know if you mess around, now,
(22:39):
you know, that's it.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
We did our thing. We hit your facility.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
If you come at us with some terror strike or
you do something somewhere, we can hit you a lot
harder wherever we want to hit you.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's not worth it to you.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So the question is what is the calculation made by
the Mullahs, by the Iranian regime itself. That's what remains
to be seen, and we could be finding out at
any moment.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, reports that the expected attack is in Qatar. I
mean question for you, if we have all of the
intel about where the attack is coming from, and theoretically
we're gonna remove our troops to keep them safe, how
much of letting them have a couple of missiles land
(23:22):
is just for show? In other words, it almost feels
like allowing your sparring partner to you know, kind of
catch you one in the ribs when you know it's
coming and it's not actually in any kind of significant danger,
because you're giving them the opportunity to look like, hey,
(23:42):
we returned fire, even though look if on a scale
of one to ten, our attack on them was a ten,
if they punched back with a one, it's like, Okay,
nothing really happened, but you're allowing them to save face
a bit. I mean, how much of this is in
other words, kabuki theater or almost on our side?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And this brings up and I know a lot of
you and we'll take some calls and some talkbacks on this,
because it's in there's in maga world. As you all know,
there are very very fervently held beliefs on this particular
issue that are not all in alignment. Okay, you really
have a non interventionist.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
What are we doing? Have we not learned the lessons
wing of MAGA right now?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And then you have a Israel needs to not live
under the specter of nuclear threat from lunatics and this
is the time and we can do it, and we've
done it, and you know you have these two different
I'm very aware of this. I've been reading and a
lot of you know, some of the big voices on
one side, some of the big voices on the on
the other side.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So we have room for this discussion here. But Clay,
to the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Point you're making it, it's about, well, do we want
you know, there's we want.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Let me be very clear about how I'm saying this.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There's what we like a regime change to occur, and
then there's do we want to take part in.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Any kind of regime change?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And do we realize if we go with number two,
what the implications of that may be. Like there's these
different phases or different tiers. I think that the Trump
administration wants a new government in Iran, but I think
they're very careful about not involving themselves further in overthrowing
the existing government, because we don't want to be in
(25:29):
a situation where there's Mission Creep and we're doing what
you know that and and I completely share that sentiment.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
We should not be rebuilding.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Or in charge of Iraq. You you were there so
serving the country. So I mean, you know which, I
know a lot of listeners were.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
I was not.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Most listeners were not. I would imagine your perspective, but
I was. I was interested to hear your perspective on
this in particular. There are obviously differences between Iran and Iraq,
but your perspective would be But I'm curious to hear
having seen the United States try to engineer a government
in Iraq. Now, Iran was involved in helping to try
(26:10):
to stop that from being in any way.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Successful, deeply involved.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I mean, it really subverted our efforts in the most
malicious ways they could.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But yeah, and I think a lot of times people
miss that that Iran has been a malign influence basically
on any thing that could be good in the Middle
East for some time to come.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But having been there.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I imagine you don't think it's a good idea to
have boots on the ground trying to impact in the
event there were regime change, the decisions made by the
Iranian people.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It's a that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Would be an absolutely horrible idea, and there's one that
I would vociferously oppose in whatever ways are available to me.
Having seen Clayton, not just the reality in Rock, the
really in Afghanistan. Yeah, I saw even in two thousand.
I was an Afghanistan in twenty ten, and it was
when Obama had decided that this was the good war
in Iraq was the bad war. And anybody who was
(27:01):
in Afghanistan then, and remember I had essentially like delivery
of I was almost like a highly classified gopher. I
would deliver classified among principles in theater. So I would
take the stuff to the ambassador. I would take the
stuff to the four star general, and I mean hand
carry like you know, hard copy stuff. And I just
(27:24):
remember any of this, and I had to read the assessments.
I had to be familiar with what was going on.
If you knew what was going on in I Rock,
I mean in Afghanistan in twenty ten, you knew that
the policy was failing and had no chance of success.
But what happens is that at all everything gets cleaned
up when you get to the I wasn't in the military,
but the guys would say when it gets to like
the brigade or sorry, it gets to the division level,
(27:46):
and then the command level, all the assessments from brigade
and battalion and company, all this stuff that the guys
who are actually seeing it gets cleaned up to.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, no, we're doing great.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's working really well because the four star doesn't want
to tell the president your idea is suck and this
is never gonna work, or you know, our ideas suck
and this is never gonna work. So yeah, that is
a lesson that I think was learned very painfully by
us in both the Rock and Afghanistan. And so that's
something that we have to keep in mind here. But
I think that right now we're not there. Not everything is,
(28:17):
you know, just like not everything is Vietnam, that everything
is World War two. Uh, this is its own situation
and so far, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You have an update on that?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, we just got breaking news reports of explosions in
katar H And this is from Baraka re Vied I believe,
who's a reporter at Axios.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
An Israeli official says Iran has launched six missiles towards
US bases in Qatar. So as we were telling you
that it was likely to happen, we will keep you
updated on the absolute latest there. But that report just
coming down in the last two minutes or so.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, well, yes, so to your question though, so there's
the regime change conversation that fact is in now to
everything that comes from this, you know, the aftermath of
the US strikes of the nuclear facilities. How do we
avoid getting drawn into that. I think there's pretty clear
I shouldn't say universal or clear agreement, but there's pretty
(29:14):
widespread agreement among MAGA. I'm not even Democrats just hate
Trump and they hate every I can't even you know
what do they They just need to figure out why
they exist other than hating Trump. And that's their own problem.
In terms of Republicans, in terms of the Trump Trump
voters out there, there's a I think a broad rejection
(29:35):
of any intervention that would require US boots on the
ground or anything like that. But that's that's one thing
that we have now though we look at the escalator
or the escalation and back and forth that would happen
after something like this Clay, if Iran hits military bases,
that is a proportionate response in some way to what
(29:58):
we did that would not It doesn't mean that we're
going to allow them to do it. It doesn't mean
that we don't necessarily exact a price for them doing it,
but it wouldn't result. And I think in escalation where
we go, Okay, now we're really gonna make things more
painful for Iran, substantially more so than we already have,
and then the Israelis already had.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
If they do.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Something horrific, I mean, I don't want to get into it,
but something al Qaeda style, which is really the concern here.
The concern is that the Iranian regime an IRGC who's
every bit. I mean, look at the bombing of the
well that was a military target, but you look at
the bombing marine barracks. They've been involved in mass casualty
terrorism in the past. If they do that against the
civilian target, then I think the question turns to or
(30:39):
the likelihood is that the Trump administration goes and takes
out the remnants of senior Iranian leadership. That's I think
Trump has intimated that essentially. Okay, if you order, if
the Ayatola orders mass casualty civilian murder.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Anywhere in the world, you know, against Americans, Israelis.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
You're like, then you are mulla Omar. We've bin laden
to the Taliban. Then we're in a whole different world
of how we're going to handle this. So that's what
I think remains to be seen. If they just strike
our military bases, I don't think not that that's we
told them not to do that. We may hit their
bases more in retaliation and say are you done yet?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Are you done yet?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
But if they do something against civilians, then I think
that you might just decide, we might decide to decapitate
what's left of the regime. That's what I think could happen.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Trump is in the situation room, by the way, which
suggests we'll give you the latest on this again. Reports
that six different missiles fired by Iran at Qatar and
our military base presumably there. Again, this is we will
give you the latest. There's video out there showing those
missiles coming in it's night in the in the Middle
(31:51):
East right now, at least in Qatar, and we'll give
you the absolute latest on that. But the reason why
it suggests that we were very well away where that
this was coming is because the President was already in
the situation room, and I'm sure they are monitoring in
real time what exactly happens there, So we will give
(32:12):
you the absolute latest we come back. But Israeli citizens
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the words thank you, mister President, along with the picture
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(32:34):
targeted strikes in Iran.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Iran has fired back at Israel.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, we
have got continued responding to the reports of attacks that
have been levied. This is from Fox News. Explosions heard
over Doha and there are videos out there. This is
(33:56):
also in Buck. I don't know how to pronounced this,
and inevitably I screw up every pronunciation. But Iran is
calling this operation Basharat al Foth against US bases have begun,
and so it would suggest that not just Qatar, but
also other US bases in the Middle East may be targeted.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Again.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
This is not dissimilar to what we saw after the Solamani.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Attack when we assessed they fired.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
A lot of after we took out Solomani, after Trump
ordered that hit, which happened on a rocky soil as
you remember a drone strike, the Iranians fired a lot
of ballistic missiles at I think like one hundred missiles
at US bases in the region. They may remember if
you've never a lot of you have served, you know,
some of these military bases are a couple of miles across.
(34:47):
I mean they're huge, So even a pretty substantial missile,
if it were to impact as long as people are
sheltering in place, is unlikely. There were no deaths from
those strikes, American deaths. There were some tv I traumatic
braining injuries from the concussive force of the missiles, but
that was it. And I think did the Iranians shoot
down a Ukrainian airliner by accident?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, they killed almost two hundred people as a part
of that response, which was actually the most devastating aspect
of the response, and it was an inadvertant.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
This is a reminder the iran is a poor third
world country. Because of the people in charge, it actually
should be a great place. But that's a whole other conversation.
It's a poor third world, dysfunctional country with a.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Really inept military.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I mean the truth is the Iranians, I mean, yeah,
they're good at they're they're good at at killing like
innocent people, or they're good at you know, ambushing peacekeepers
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
They can't actually go toe to toe with it advanced
military at all, not even a little bit. That's the truth.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
So you know, what were they what were they doing
in Iraq? They were just making it a hell, a
hellish nightmare for everybody, for the Iraqis who were there
by killing Americans who are effectively trying to keep the
lights on and get the sewage cleaned as.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Because they feared if Iraq was in some way a
peaceful Middle Eastern country, that power would be impacted exactly
by the way, also reports out there and certainly our
prayers for all the troops that are in the Middle East,
that air defense systems have been activated at the US
air base in Iraq as well. So much like what
(36:23):
we saw with Sola money, there is going to be
an attempt to extract revenge in some way, and we
will continue to update you on the absolute latest. If
US military base is under attack right now as we're
talking missiles interorrect So will continue to follow this and
again the President in the Situation Room, they are monitoring
(36:45):
it in real time. I would suspect buck that we
may get a statement from the White House sooner rather
than later, when we have some sort of finality on
exactly what happens here.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
We're definitely going to get a truth social post. I mean,
Trump's sure to let this go.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
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