November 10, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a fiery breakdown of the imminent end to the government shutdown, highlighting the political fallout for Democrats. Clay and Buck argue that the shutdown was a strategic move by Democrats to sow chaos and emotional unrest ahead of the elections, but ultimately backfired. The hosts emphasize that the disruption to air travel—delayed flights, unpaid air traffic controllers, and public frustration—was a tipping point that forced Democrats to retreat. President Donald Trump’s response to the shutdown is spotlighted, including his call for bonuses for air traffic controllers who continued working and criticism of those who took time off. The show frames this as a leadership moment, contrasting Trump’s decisive stance with what they describe as Democrat disarray. Clay and Buck also dive into the internal conflict within the Democratic Party, noting that eight Democrat senators broke ranks, leading to what they call a “civil war” within the party. Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders are both criticized, with Sanders accused of using emotional manipulation and class warfare rhetoric to rally support. The show mocks the Democrats’ messaging around “Trumpism” and their failure to deliver tangible results from the shutdown. Healthcare becomes a major focus, with Clay and Buck launching a full-scale critique of Obamacare. They argue that the Affordable Care Act has led to skyrocketing premiums, reduced quality of care, and a broken system that benefits insurance companies more than patients. The discussion includes commentary on SNAP benefits, obesity-related healthcare costs, and the lack of price transparency in medical services. The hosts call for market-driven reforms and accuse Democrats of subsidizing the most hated industry in America—health insurance. The episode also features cultural commentary, including reactions to left-wing media outlets like MSNBC and The View. Clay and Buck mock the emotional tone of Morning Joe and criticize Sunny Hostin’s comments about Chuck Schumer, framing them as emblematic of liberal media hysteria.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss
the government shutdown. Where are we on this one? Inching
closer to official reopening here? There's a deal in the Senate,
(00:23):
so it looks imminent that the government will be formally opened.
But Democrats took this through the election and sure enough
turned around and said, you know what, we probably should
open this government at some point, considering that people are
getting stuck on tarmacs, flights are being delayed, government employees
aren't being paid, air traffic controllers, all of those things
(00:50):
going on here. And it seems, Clay increasingly clear that
the pain and chaos was the point of what the
Democrats were doing all along. Their desire was exactly what
we saw, which was to frustrate people, to make them anxious,
to make them agitated in advance of the elections. And you, sure, yes,
(01:14):
go ahead. You look like I can't tell if you're
swiveling around with energy about this or you're just in
your new studio.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm in my new studio. So Buck, there's several things
that could go awry. First of all, we're gonna have
to get a picture taken. I am attempting, and you're
gonna think this is the most ridiculous of all decisions
that I've ever made. I'm attempting now to do the
show from a treadmill, like I'm trying to walk like
four miles. Yeah, You're losing your mind, and I'm probably
(01:42):
gonna step off, and this is gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We have designed in the new studio.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I have a walking desk where I am right now
attempting to do like four miles instead of sitting. This
is my attempt to make America healthy again. I'm trying
to do the show like totally normal, just standing here
from a Yeah. So at some point if I just
take a wrong step, at some point, I may just
(02:09):
kill myself.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
This is this is gonna be an interesting decision. All
I saw was you on the shoulders, moving side to side,
and I thought you were just so excited to talk
about the shutdown that you couldn't contain yourself. Like my
baby does this when I walk in the room if
he hasn't seen me, he shakes side to side. But
that is in fact, not what's going on you were
walking while doing the radio show. I'm gonna have to
(02:31):
This is gonna take me a beat to get get
used to, this.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Get adjusted to. And also for people watching on the
new cameras, I am told that I look like a
penis with two different logos of Clay and Buck on
either side of me. So there's no telling how much
will go awry before we get this all fixed. But
even if we are a mess on the show, optically, Buck,
(02:55):
we're not as mess a much of a mess as
the Democrat Party is right now.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
They have completely screwed this all up.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And this is yet another story that I would say
we got completely right, because we told you that they
wanted to have their stupid no Kings protest, and we
told you that they wanted to have the election in
Virginia with all of the federal employees who were likely
to be showing up, and that as soon as they
(03:25):
did that, which they did at some point, they would buckle.
And it's amazing how quickly we pivoted from Boy Republicans
have got a real issue here to try to figure
out exactly what's going on to Boy. Democrats are a mess.
Eight Democrat senators have joined in, and now as a result,
(03:48):
I think you're going to see a real civil war
breaking out among the Democrat party over how do they
solve that, What is the next step? What should they
do going forward? And I don't know that they even
have a very good answer, because right now Hakeem Jefferies
is speaking on CNN Live and he's.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Screaming at everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And these eight senators have come out and they've made
the choice that they wanted to make. And so I
just think this is exactly what we told everybody was
going to happen. They had no plan, they got nothing,
They threw a temper tantrum. You've got a six month old,
hopefully he's not having temper tantrums yet.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But speed is way better behave than Democrat senators. It's
not even cost time.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
You get the temper tantrum that comes out and there
is no result, and they're going to be even more frustrated.
The left is going to lose their mind over this.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So Trump put this out. As we've said, there's already
been agreement. I don't think Democrats could really walk back
from this in the Senate after they've made these concessions,
and we'll get into some of the specifics of what
the deal looks like to get the government back open.
Over the weekend, Trump was saying, and many others were saying,
to nuke the filibuster, time to go out, time to
make it. And there may still be an argument underway
(05:04):
about that. But here's what Trump says about air traffic controllers.
This is always clay historically, where the rubber meets the road,
so to speak. On the shutdown. When people really get
angry is when air traffic is a complete mess and
you have people that are not able to go on
business trips, on vacations, go see relatives, waiting three hours,
(05:25):
waiting twenty four hours, you know, cancel flights, all that stuff.
So Trump put this out. All air traffic controllers must
get back to work now. Anyone who doesn't will be
substantially docked. For those air traffic controllers who were great
patriots and didn't take any time off during the Democrats
shutdown hoax, I will be recommending a bonus of ten
thousand dollars per person for distinguished service to our country.
(05:48):
For those that did nothing but complaint it took time
off even though everyone knew they would be paid in full.
I am not happy with you, very Trump here, very
big daddy Trump, letting everybody know where he stands on this.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, And look, I do think if you're a Democrat
and you are convinced that Trump is a king, and
you are convinced that Trump is hitler, and you finally
had your party say we're not gonna take this anymore,
and then they just meekly come back and say, actually,
we're just going to open the government back up. And
I do think Buck, this is a function of all
(06:23):
of the travel issues, because whether you're a Democrat, Republican
or an independent, if you have to stand in line
for hours to get through TSA, people lose their mind.
And if you have to put yourself in a position
where you are somehow defending that absurdity, it's not a
good spot to be in it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Again.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I just come back to we said this exactly was
what was going to happen. They would get through the
elections on Tuesday, they would look around and they would say, hey,
we don't really have the ability to keep this up forever.
Republicans called their bluff, said we're not going to change anything,
and as a result, these Democrats, these eight just came
(07:03):
back meekly and said, Okay, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Here's what they did, Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They gave Chuck Schumer an opportunity to look tough so
that he can stand up to AOC right, which I
think is a huge part of what he's trying to do.
And then ultimately, even though he's not involved in reopening
the government he voted against it. His number two, Dick
Durbin from Illinois, was in favor of it, which kind
of gives you a nod that Chuck Schumer is telling
(07:30):
his constituents behind scenes, Hey, let's go ahead and do this.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And the whole thing is just it's a debacle. Let's
be honest.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
There is no actual benefit that the Democrat Party has
gained in any way.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, they threw a tantrum. Yeah, I think that they've
set the groundwork for the emotional manipulation that is going
to be the foundation of their midterm pitch. Right, what
are they going to say so that they can take
control of the House. And then all it's going to
be is do everything you can to stop Trump from
doing anything for the last two years of his presidency. Right,
(08:06):
do everything you can in PG to in PHM and
just be as difficult as possible grind the gears of
government to a halt. To the degree they can do that,
they're they're really heavily leaning into the class warfare stuff.
It's feeling very two thousand and nine all over.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Again here, Mom. Donnie took the mask off buck in
his speech. Even the Washington Post editorial board I was
reading it said, Oh, he's a he's a nice he's
a gentle you know, socialist. As soon as he won,
he was like, we're coming for you. We're going to
tax you. There are gonna be consequences. We've got a mandate.
We got over fifty percent. Get ready.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah. And that's people say, well, what happens to the
identity politics of the Democrat coalition? Oh, they shift focus
a little bit now, they go from race communism to
old school communism. That's essentially the playbook, I think, And
that's why the healthcare issue plays so heavily into this,
and why Bernie Sanders. Of course, Bernie Sanders is one
(09:09):
of the big voices you'll hear out there who's upset,
as he always is, about the millionaires and the billionaires
and all this stuff here. This is a video that
he released on social media. This is cut to where
he is slamming. What is he slamming? You'll hear it,
play it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Tonight, eight Democrats voted with the Republicans to allow them
to go forward on this continuing resolution. Into my mind,
this was a very very bad vote. Just on Tuesday,
we had an election all over this country. And what
the election showed is that the American people want us
(09:46):
to stand up to trump Ism, to his war against
working class people, to his authoritarianism. That is what the
American people wanted. But tonight that is not what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What is the war against working class people? And what
is that? What does that even mean? These are this
is what I mean by emotional manipulation. This is buzzwords
to get people to play into Oh my bills? Are
you know high?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I have frustration in life? It's someone else's fault. If
it is someone else's fault, fine, but let's at least
know who and why and then fix that instead of
just playing on the rage of the masses, which is
what Bernie's trying to do.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Buck think about the arguments that they simultaneously were making.
They said, Hey, everybody's gonna go hungry and too many
people are gonna starve to death. Basically, that's what they
were trying to say with the Snap related issues.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And as soon as.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
The government opens back up, what are they saying? How
dare we not stand up to Trump? Wait a minute,
what is the consequence of a government shut down? Is
it that tons of people are not gonna have enough
food to eat, in which case the government should reopen immediately,
or is it that you're just trying to extract pain
against and throw a temper tantrum. Well, as soon as
(11:02):
the government gets opened back up, everybody who wants those
Snap benefits is going to get them. By the way side, notebook,
have you seen a lot of the people being interviewed
talking about their necessity of needing Snap. Does it look
like most of those people are a meal away from starvation?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because to me, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And in fact, I think there's a stat out there
that the people that are on SNAP benefits, as you
pointed out, they're not making the most healthy decisions when
it comes to the food that they're choosing to buy.
And it used to be that we would hear all
the time about oh, you know, there's a food desert,
or there's an inability for people out there to be
able to make healthy decisions. But as you pointed out,
(11:41):
they did a study where they gave people subsidized healthy foods,
and the overall purchases of food did not change at all.
In fact, people continued to make unhealthy dietary decisions. But
this idea that calorically, somehow there's a huge percentage of
Americans that are struggling and not getting enough to eat.
Most of the people that are on snap benefits that
(12:03):
I've seen interviewed talking about how desperately they need Snap
benefits actually look like they could go a couple of
weeks without eating anything and might be in the healthier position.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Look, I think, first of all, you know, if you
the CDC even estimates that the costs we're talking about
healthcare costs, extreme obesity costs the American health care system
two hundred billion dollars a year extreme obesity two hundred
I'm not, by the way, don't start to all fucking on.
You know you've been twenty pounds or forty pounds overweighted. No, No,
(12:34):
I'm talking about like like somebody who is morbidly obese.
That's the term you use for two hundred billion dollars
a year is what that costs. But the other part
of this, and you know you've been tweeting about it.
I've been tweeting about it. We need to actually look
at what's going on with healthcare in this country because
Obamacare they want to move away from this. Now, Obamacare
is a massive by its own standards everyone, a massive failure.
(13:00):
It has increased quote coverage at the expense of cost
quality care. Everything has gotten worse. You have a little
thing now that says you have Obamacare or whatever. You
have a plan that's on an exchange, or you're part
of the Medicaid expansion. But you didn't increase doctors, you
didn't increase efficiency in the system. You've made costs for
(13:22):
those who actually pay for their healthcare premiums more than double,
a lot of cases triple. And the Democrats answer to
this is to shovel tens of billions of subsidies in
the city. They're just hiding clay, they're just hiding the
actual costs.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, when you subsidize something that is bad, the thing
that you subsidize gets worse. And we subsidized healthcare. All
Obamacare really is is a huge giveaway to insurance companies.
And do you know who the most hated groups of
companies in America are healthcare insurance companies because no one
(14:00):
has any idea what things cost because you can't figure
out why you have to pay X one week and
the next week it goes to why because there is
no cost analysis associated with this at all. So Obamacare
is an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Buck. It is a failure of epic magnitude, and it
failed in exactly the ways that people like me who
were opposed to it at the time said it would.
I'm not saying I'm the only one. All Republicans were
paying attention to this, Clay, but it is an absolute mess.
It is a disaster, and I think that we all
need to start to grapple with the realities of the
healthcare system instead of really what it is is. They
(14:38):
just plan to make the whole thing collapse into a
single pair. That's the whole. They're just gonna make everything medicare.
They're going to try to do the Canada model here,
which is gonna be a nightmare everybody. It's just gonna
make it all worse when we come back. I want
to hear what MSNBC viewing was like this morning. Oh yeah,
saw you at the six box.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know things have gotten serious when you have six
people who simultaneously need to be taught talking about how
awful things are.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I've also seen some of the Blue Sky reactions.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Blue Sky is the far left wing version of Twitter,
and they're having complete meltdowns there over the Democrats bending
the knee to King Trump.
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wants to join in, as if we all forgot how
much he lambasted Buck and his masculinity as a treadmill guy.
Buck needs an apology. All of us working podcast listening
(17:35):
treadmillers do too.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Now, look, I forgot, but this guy is onto something, Clay,
because you did give me a hard time over walking
up up uphill on the treadmill. True, it is true.
Now that was not live on the air. So there's
a possibility that I tear my acl trying to do this.
I don't know if it's a good move or a
crazy move. Is this what happens?
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Now?
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I get one hundred, one hundred and three mile an
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middle aged guy feats as we go along.
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out today. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
So the shutdown is about to end, and I was
curious how they were going to spin this. So this
morning I was a lovely morning. I was sitting there.
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was sitting there and I had little I had ginger
on one side, speed on the other, and I'm like,
all right, I'm I'm prepared. I'm prepared to subject myself
to the madness of.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Morning, not subject. You are the number one fan of
Morning Joe. Don't downplay it here.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You are the clay just because I am so dedicated
for this team that I'm willing to suffer through this.
Let's let's let's not pretend like I just want to
see what kind of zipsweater Joe is wearing so I
can mirror image it myself sometime, or I can watch
Mika get all hissy up there.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I don't know if some is going that well, buck,
I don't. I just just doing a little bit of
a viewing. They don't seem very happy.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I had a female co host on TV at
one point. I gotta tell you, marriage is tough enough.
I can't imagine being married and then showing up and
being co host on a TV show together as well.
That would be it's a lot, that's a that's a
lot of stuff. That's what I try not to text
Clay over the weekend, because like, fifteen hours during the
week of talking to each other not enough. I gotta
be like, hey, buddy, what's going on? What are you
(20:47):
up to? You know, we try to try to give
each other a little space on the weekends. As Clay
is now catching his breath on the treadmill, so we
have no he's good, he's money, he's some money.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm gonna be in such elite shape. People are not
gonna wreck it. Ggnies me now with this treadmill setup,
so mourning Joe. They had to come up with some
kind of a position on it. And I just want
you to get a sense. You already know where this
is going.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Somehow, the Democrats shut down the government caused all this pain,
didn't get the concession that they were demanding, didn't get
the you know, the the Rather, the hostage taking did
not result in what they actually wanted, and the real
takeaway here is that the American people, according to Morning Joe,
are blaming Republicans play for.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
This is not like a Republican position or a Democratic
position when it comes to the voters, and certainly not
an independent fight. This is not partisan. They're Americans in
red state America who desperately need this help. They're Americans
in blue state America that need this help too. But
(21:55):
I guarantee you from Dalton, Georgia, to Bucks County, Sylvania,
to every place in America, rural place in America, also listen.
The Republicans are not on their side, not in this debate.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And I just sounds a little bit like a guy
who's practicing a stump speech. Part one, Part two, Part two.
This is a Republican's fault, like they're just doing the
thing that we said they would do all along, which
is they've lit the fire. Okay, the house is now burning,
The fire department's coming, and they're walking around telling the neighbors,
can you believe these guys lit this fire? Clay, It's
(22:35):
crazy what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I also think it's kind of amazing how quickly we
went from boy, Republicans are really going to have to
have a civil war. Now two Democrats are at each
other's throats almost overnight, and I just wonder in a
larger context, you and I asked this question from the
get go. You can't enter into a decision like the
(23:00):
Democrats did here with no exit ramp. We talked about
this for forty days. We said, there is no exit
ramp here. There is no goal that they are somehow,
in some form or fashion going to get. And so
again no King's protest on what was at October eighteenth,
that Saturday, beautiful day all over the country that Democrats
(23:23):
gave up to rally against President Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And then you had the election, and I do think.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It probably juice turnout in northern Virginia and helped them
get a little bit more political power in that state
than they otherwise would have. But then everybody who is
in any way moderate on the Democrat side of the
aisle just says, hey, we got to sue for peace
and buck I think the ultimate Yes, it was no Kings. Yes,
(23:51):
it was also the election having taken place. We told
you that it would get solved right after that. I
think what they didn't calculate was, I guarantee you they're
getting blown up about all of the issues at airports,
because it's one thing to hear, Hey, the government's shut
down and it's having this impact I'm talking about if
(24:12):
you're not air traffic control, if you're not military, if
you're not a federal employee. But as soon as I
show up at the airport and I have to stand
in line for hours to get through TSA, or even
worse than that, you get to the airport, you stand
in line for hours at TSA, and then your flight
gets canceled. Democrat, Republican or independent. People are mad, and
(24:36):
you don't want to be on the receiving end of
people being mad, especially when there isn't really a basis
for any kind of tangible result that they're going to get.
And that was why I actually thought about you this morning.
When I woke up, I was like, I don't want
to put on MSNBC. I got to get the kids
to school. I got to make sure that things are
going okay here. But a part of me was a
(24:58):
little bit jealous that you got to sit and watch
the chaos unspool on MSNBC, because I did put it
on for just a few minutes last night, just to
see all of the people on the panels saying, wait
a minute.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
They got us all worked up.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They told us that they were standing up to Trump,
and then the result is after forty days they say, well,
we made the conversation shift, Oh we made this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
They just failed and.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It just makes them look utterly incompetent, and a part
of me wonders if they're going to demand Chuck Schumer's
head on a platter over this Buck.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh guess what Sonny Hostin? Oh yeah, chief chief bitterness
analyst over at the View. She is. She's the queen
of Queen of bitter, just always always unhappy about something.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Being married to Sonny Hostin, Buck, can you imagine that
poor bastard husband, Like, how awful his life must be.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I bet he works one.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Hundred and eighty hours a week just to of having
to spend time with her. She just seems like an
energy vampire of epic magnitude. Even in the context of
the View. I don't think i'd be fun to be
married to Whoopie or Joy Behar, but they don't seem
like they're awful humans. Sunny Hostin seems to me to
be an awful human. She's a she's definitely. She really
(26:21):
should call her Sonny hostile. Oh yeah, she's very she's
very hostile.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yes, very hot. I mean she's very very unhospitable and hostile.
Here she is, she's hostile toward Chuck Schumer. It turns
out play twenty now they just cave and surrendered.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and he
cannot put that. If he cannot keep pockets together, if
he cannot keep this clockets together, he.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Needs to go Clay. What this really is is, uh,
you know, Reme remember the the two Minutes hate with
Emmanuel gold See in nineteen eighty four, where Evering just shouts,
you know, Emmanuel gold state, alright, so bad and no
one even don't even know who this guy is or
what's going on or whatever. But it's just meant to
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get everybody. This is the Left just venting their spleen,
their rage, their anger at trump Ism, and this was
all in advance of the election, going to election day
to make them think Democrats are fighting. It was all
kabuki theater. It's all a pantomime.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I also think Buck this could be one of the
lasting impacts of it. They have created a world if
you go look at issues where people think, oh, Democrats,
they care about health care more than Republicans. Now, I'm
not saying that everybody out there listening right now believes this,
but they have created the idea, oh, we care way
more about healthcare than the opposing party. I actually think
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the failure of Obamacare is going to open a larger
conversation about healthcare where we sit back and we say,
wait a minute. Structurally, all we did with Obamacare was
give huge subsidies to health insurance companies that huge majorities
of Americans don't like. Instead of I saw Trump put
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up a truth post about this, Instead of putting more
money in people's pockets and letting them make rational decisions
about what health care they need or want that is
the best result for their family, for all of you
out there, they said, hey, let's just give way more
money to health insurance companies and let's mandate that everybody
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has to buy health insurance. It's a really bad idea
that I don't think Republicans have really elucidated. Well, you
have the least popular for profit businesses in America, health
care companies, and the Democrats solution that people feel like
cheat them, that people feel like, don't give them adequate coverage, that,
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don't give them adequate customer service. Can you even get
get your healthcare provider insurance company on the phone? And
when you do, how many times do they actually help
you or even be able to explain why you're being
charged what you are? I mean, I hate health insurance companies.
Most of you do too. In fact, you might even
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argue with your spouse over who has to call the
health insurance company when you have a billing dispute, because
it's such a miserable experience. And so the Democrats solution
to healthcare was to give the least popular industry in
America a handout of hundreds of billions of dollars to
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make them more money. I'm sorry, that's a really bad
position for them to try to defend.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, you know, this is where you get into the
ways that this market is. It's not a market really
at all. It's manipulated so much that it's just central
it's just central planning held together with some elements of
the market in some place.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But Clay, this is when people find out that if
you have insurance, the price could be you know, six
hundred dollars for whatever it is that you're doing. If
you don't have insurance, the price can be three hundred dollars.
But if they find out you have insurance, you're not
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allowed to pay the three hundred dollars no insurance price. Correct.
This is all about taking money from some people to
pay for other people who don't want to pay for
the stuff that they're getting. That is the whole thing.
And by the way, this is all it's not insurance.
It's not even insurance. You should not be paying for
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you know, Rather, when you go into the doctor for
your checkup and for these things, you shouldn't be filing acclaim.
You know, you know, this is when people think about
with their car. When do you call your car insurance
If somebody t bones you at an intersection and you've
got real damage, right, or you know there's something that's
serials happened to your car, you don't call them. If
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you know, an acorn scratches the rim, you don't call
them for gas. But our whole healthcare system is just
that now to you know, everywhere you go, I can't
even get in Clay. I could go in somewhere, you know, Oh,
I think I have a sinus infection. I have to
fill out fifteen minutes of paperwork about all mine. Probably
even though it's all online now, you still have to
fill out the stupid paperwork over and over and over again.
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What's your insurance? Do you have a secondary insure? Who's
your spouse?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's all garbage. It's infuriating, It's infuriating.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And that's why I think Republicans have an opportunity here
because all Democrats have done is subsidize the most hated
industry in America and give them more money to an
already broken system. And I think that conversation is actually
going to become more paramount here because this is a major,
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major issue, and look, Democrats are going to try to
make it an issue in twenty twenty six. I think
trying to defend health insurance companies as doing a good
job and deserving more of our money is not something
that most Americans are going to nod along with. And
I just come back to, time after time after time,
the reason healthcare is broken in this country is because
(32:13):
nobody has any idea that builds on just what you
were saying, Buck, what anything is going to cost?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hold on, no, you're not allowed to know. It's actually
worse than that, you're not allowed to know. That'st It's
not like you're just walking around, you know, like, oh,
just you know, who cares about whatever. I could go
into the back office of a hospital and say, hey, guys,
what is the actual cost of it? To say, we'll
get back to you in three months with a big bill.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way, look, I talked about this when my
wife was having bait with our babies.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
It's one of the few healthcare things where you can
actually go around and ask what something costs.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I said, how much is it going to cost to have.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
A baby here? I'd like to compare that cost with
somewhere else. They said, well, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
How can you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Give me an opportunity to wre maternity wards and the
only thing you're not competing on, you're competing on Wi
Fi bamboo flooring, waiting rooms. You can't tell me what
the cost is it was, I can tell you it'sane.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Everybody out here in Miami Beach, uh in this area
at least, it's all it's all turning into concierge medicine. Yeah,
people are just doctors are just opting out of this system.
And it's not because they're being greedy. They just want
to be able to practice medicine without being paperwork. Uh,
you know, adult bureaucrats all day long, and so people
are just paying. This is what's gonna increasingly happen. And
(33:34):
you can have all these Democrats saying I love the
I love Obamacare. They're not Obambacare plans. Correct, They're on
gold plated, amazing plans. They see any doctor they want,
they don't pay anything. I mean, if friends, if you
want to want to see what their version of healthcare
looks like for all of us, go see how it
all was working out in the Soviet Uni. Yeah. Sure
it was all free.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But well you know the government employees who never gave
a paycheck. Yeah, everybody in Congress, they kept getting paid.
We'll take we'll take your calls on this, my friends.
Here at a moment, we're making progress with the Trump
administration with some of the spending cup acts, but the
debt is still huge, thirty seven trillion in counting. Inflation
is still a problem, cost of living is high. I
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Speaker 2 (34:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're rolling
through the Monday edition of the program. Shutdown is over effectively, Buck.
If you're wondering out there, you're maybe been missing a paycheck,
maybe you haven't been able to go to work. It
appears Thursday, the official official end of the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
We'll get here. The vote is Wednesday, right, the actual
all Senate. Okay, we're open. That's supposed to happen Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But in general, that is the direction we are headed,
is to having that situation resolved sooner rather than sooner.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Rather than later.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
That doesn't mean, however, I saw up on the screen
that we are dealing with unbelievable amounts of canceled flights today,
a lot of you out there having to deal with
a great deal of frustration associated with this UH and
certainly all of this has blown up in the Democrat faces.
We'll take some of your calls eight hundred and two
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two two eight a two. Also a couple of other
stories to get into in the next hour or Buck
Michelle Obama. I don't think she continues to do interviews.
She is complaining maybe the least grateful person who has
had immense amounts of should have immense amounts of gratitude. Ever,
we will talk about that. The BBC screw up pretty significant.
(36:18):
You may not care, but it's yet another thing that
a major news organization has gotten wrong. And the Olympics
have decided to line up buck and ban trans people,
that's men pretending to be women from being able to
compete going forward. So all of that moving in a
very very positive direction, with sanity hopefully returning in that respect.
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So we will break down all of that as we
roll into the second hour of the program.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's going to be a fantastic so might even say
fabulous second hour of Clay and Buck Radio. Amen eight
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss
the government shutdown. Where are we on this one? Inching
closer to official reopening here? There's a deal in the Senate,
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so it looks imminent that the government will be formally opened.
But Democrats took this through the election and sure enough
turned around and said, you know what, we probably should
open this government at some point, considering that people are
getting stuck on tarmacs, flights are being delayed, government employees
aren't being paid, air traffic controllers, all of those things
(00:50):
going on here. And it seems, Clay increasingly clear that
the pain and chaos was the point of what the
Democrats were doing all along. Their desire was exactly what
we saw, which was to frustrate people, to make them anxious,
to make them agitated in advance of the elections. And you, sure, yes,
(01:14):
go ahead. You look like I can't tell if you're
swiveling around with energy about this or you're just in
your new studio.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm in my new studio. So Buck, there's several things
that could go awry. First of all, we're gonna have
to get a picture taken. I am attempting, and you're
gonna think this is the most ridiculous of all decisions
that I've ever made. I'm attempting now to do the
show from a treadmill, like I'm trying to walk like
four miles. Yeah, You're losing your mind, and I'm probably
(01:42):
gonna step off, and this is gonna be ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We have designed in the new studio.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I have a walking desk where I am right now
attempting to do like four miles instead of sitting. This
is my attempt to make America healthy again. I'm trying
to do the show like totally normal, just standing here
from a Yeah. So at some point if I just
take a wrong step, at some point, I may just
(02:09):
kill myself.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
This is this is gonna be an interesting decision. All
I saw was you on the shoulders, moving side to side,
and I thought you were just so excited to talk
about the shutdown that you couldn't contain yourself. Like my
baby does this when I walk in the room if
he hasn't seen me, he shakes side to side. But
that is in fact, not what's going on you were
walking while doing the radio show. I'm gonna have to
(02:31):
This is gonna take me a beat to get get
used to, this.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Get adjusted to. And also for people watching on the
new cameras, I am told that I look like a
penis with two different logos of Clay and Buck on
either side of me. So there's no telling how much
will go awry before we get this all fixed. But
even if we are a mess on the show, optically, Buck,
(02:55):
we're not as mess a much of a mess as
the Democrat Party is right now.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
They have completely screwed this all up.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And this is yet another story that I would say
we got completely right, because we told you that they
wanted to have their stupid no Kings protest, and we
told you that they wanted to have the election in
Virginia with all of the federal employees who were likely
to be showing up, and that as soon as they
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did that, which they did at some point, they would buckle.
And it's amazing how quickly we pivoted from Boy Republicans
have got a real issue here to try to figure
out exactly what's going on to Boy. Democrats are a mess.
Eight Democrat senators have joined in, and now as a result,
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I think you're going to see a real civil war
breaking out among the Democrat party over how do they
solve that, What is the next step? What should they
do going forward? And I don't know that they even
have a very good answer, because right now Hakeem Jefferies
is speaking on CNN Live and he's.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Screaming at everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And these eight senators have come out and they've made
the choice that they wanted to make. And so I
just think this is exactly what we told everybody was
going to happen. They had no plan, they got nothing,
They threw a temper tantrum. You've got a six month old,
hopefully he's not having temper tantrums yet.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But speed is way better behave than Democrat senators. It's
not even cost time.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
You get the temper tantrum that comes out and there
is no result, and they're going to be even more frustrated.
The left is going to lose their mind over this.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So Trump put this out. As we've said, there's already
been agreement. I don't think Democrats could really walk back
from this in the Senate after they've made these concessions,
and we'll get into some of the specifics of what
the deal looks like to get the government back open.
Over the weekend, Trump was saying, and many others were saying,
to nuke the filibuster, time to go out, time to
make it. And there may still be an argument underway
(05:04):
about that. But here's what Trump says about air traffic controllers.
This is always clay historically, where the rubber meets the road,
so to speak. On the shutdown. When people really get
angry is when air traffic is a complete mess and
you have people that are not able to go on
business trips, on vacations, go see relatives, waiting three hours,
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waiting twenty four hours, you know, cancel flights, all that stuff.
So Trump put this out. All air traffic controllers must
get back to work now. Anyone who doesn't will be
substantially docked. For those air traffic controllers who were great
patriots and didn't take any time off during the Democrats
shutdown hoax, I will be recommending a bonus of ten
thousand dollars per person for distinguished service to our country.
(05:48):
For those that did nothing but complaint it took time
off even though everyone knew they would be paid in full.
I am not happy with you, very Trump here, very
big daddy Trump, letting everybody know where he stands on this.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, And look, I do think if you're a Democrat
and you are convinced that Trump is a king, and
you are convinced that Trump is hitler, and you finally
had your party say we're not gonna take this anymore,
and then they just meekly come back and say, actually,
we're just going to open the government back up. And
I do think Buck, this is a function of all
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of the travel issues, because whether you're a Democrat, Republican
or an independent, if you have to stand in line
for hours to get through TSA, people lose their mind.
And if you have to put yourself in a position
where you are somehow defending that absurdity, it's not a
good spot to be in it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Again.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I just come back to we said this exactly was
what was going to happen. They would get through the
elections on Tuesday, they would look around and they would say, hey,
we don't really have the ability to keep this up forever.
Republicans called their bluff, said we're not going to change anything,
and as a result, these Democrats, these eight just came
(07:03):
back meekly and said, Okay, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Here's what they did, Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
They gave Chuck Schumer an opportunity to look tough so
that he can stand up to AOC right, which I
think is a huge part of what he's trying to do.
And then ultimately, even though he's not involved in reopening
the government he voted against it. His number two, Dick
Durbin from Illinois, was in favor of it, which kind
of gives you a nod that Chuck Schumer is telling
(07:30):
his constituents behind scenes, Hey, let's go ahead and do this.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And the whole thing is just it's a debacle. Let's
be honest.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
There is no actual benefit that the Democrat Party has
gained in any way.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, they threw a tantrum. Yeah, I think that they've
set the groundwork for the emotional manipulation that is going
to be the foundation of their midterm pitch. Right, what
are they going to say so that they can take
control of the House. And then all it's going to
be is do everything you can to stop Trump from
doing anything for the last two years of his presidency. Right,
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do everything you can in PG to in PHM and
just be as difficult as possible grind the gears of
government to a halt. To the degree they can do that,
they're they're really heavily leaning into the class warfare stuff.
It's feeling very two thousand and nine all over.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Again here, Mom. Donnie took the mask off buck in
his speech. Even the Washington Post editorial board I was
reading it said, Oh, he's a he's a nice he's
a gentle you know, socialist. As soon as he won,
he was like, we're coming for you. We're going to
tax you. There are gonna be consequences. We've got a mandate.
We got over fifty percent. Get ready.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah. And that's people say, well, what happens to the
identity politics of the Democrat coalition? Oh, they shift focus
a little bit now, they go from race communism to
old school communism. That's essentially the playbook, I think, And
that's why the healthcare issue plays so heavily into this,
and why Bernie Sanders. Of course, Bernie Sanders is one
(09:09):
of the big voices you'll hear out there who's upset,
as he always is, about the millionaires and the billionaires
and all this stuff here. This is a video that
he released on social media. This is cut to where
he is slamming. What is he slamming? You'll hear it,
play it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Tonight, eight Democrats voted with the Republicans to allow them
to go forward on this continuing resolution. Into my mind,
this was a very very bad vote. Just on Tuesday,
we had an election all over this country. And what
the election showed is that the American people want us
(09:46):
to stand up to trump Ism, to his war against
working class people, to his authoritarianism. That is what the
American people wanted. But tonight that is not what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What is the war against working class people? And what
is that? What does that even mean? These are this
is what I mean by emotional manipulation. This is buzzwords
to get people to play into Oh my bills? Are
you know high?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I have frustration in life? It's someone else's fault. If
it is someone else's fault, fine, but let's at least
know who and why and then fix that instead of
just playing on the rage of the masses, which is
what Bernie's trying to do.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Buck think about the arguments that they simultaneously were making.
They said, Hey, everybody's gonna go hungry and too many
people are gonna starve to death. Basically, that's what they
were trying to say with the Snap related issues.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And as soon as.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
The government opens back up, what are they saying? How
dare we not stand up to Trump? Wait a minute,
what is the consequence of a government shut down? Is
it that tons of people are not gonna have enough
food to eat, in which case the government should reopen immediately,
or is it that you're just trying to extract pain
against and throw a temper tantrum. Well, as soon as
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the government gets opened back up, everybody who wants those
Snap benefits is going to get them. By the way side, notebook,
have you seen a lot of the people being interviewed
talking about their necessity of needing Snap. Does it look
like most of those people are a meal away from starvation?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Because to me, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And in fact, I think there's a stat out there
that the people that are on SNAP benefits, as you
pointed out, they're not making the most healthy decisions when
it comes to the food that they're choosing to buy.
And it used to be that we would hear all
the time about oh, you know, there's a food desert,
or there's an inability for people out there to be
able to make healthy decisions. But as you pointed out,
(11:41):
they did a study where they gave people subsidized healthy foods,
and the overall purchases of food did not change at all.
In fact, people continued to make unhealthy dietary decisions. But
this idea that calorically, somehow there's a huge percentage of
Americans that are struggling and not getting enough to eat.
Most of the people that are on snap benefits that
(12:03):
I've seen interviewed talking about how desperately they need Snap
benefits actually look like they could go a couple of
weeks without eating anything and might be in the healthier position.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Look, I think, first of all, you know, if you
the CDC even estimates that the costs we're talking about
healthcare costs, extreme obesity costs the American health care system
two hundred billion dollars a year extreme obesity two hundred
I'm not, by the way, don't start to all fucking on.
You know you've been twenty pounds or forty pounds overweighted. No, No,
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I'm talking about like like somebody who is morbidly obese.
That's the term you use for two hundred billion dollars
a year is what that costs. But the other part
of this, and you know you've been tweeting about it.
I've been tweeting about it. We need to actually look
at what's going on with healthcare in this country because
Obamacare they want to move away from this. Now, Obamacare
is a massive by its own standards everyone, a massive failure.
(13:00):
It has increased quote coverage at the expense of cost
quality care. Everything has gotten worse. You have a little
thing now that says you have Obamacare or whatever. You
have a plan that's on an exchange, or you're part
of the Medicaid expansion. But you didn't increase doctors, you
didn't increase efficiency in the system. You've made costs for
(13:22):
those who actually pay for their healthcare premiums more than double,
a lot of cases triple. And the Democrats answer to
this is to shovel tens of billions of subsidies in
the city. They're just hiding clay, they're just hiding the
actual costs.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, when you subsidize something that is bad, the thing
that you subsidize gets worse. And we subsidized healthcare. All
Obamacare really is is a huge giveaway to insurance companies.
And do you know who the most hated groups of
companies in America are healthcare insurance companies because no one
(14:00):
has any idea what things cost because you can't figure
out why you have to pay X one week and
the next week it goes to why because there is
no cost analysis associated with this at all. So Obamacare
is an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Buck. It is a failure of epic magnitude, and it
failed in exactly the ways that people like me who
were opposed to it at the time said it would.
I'm not saying I'm the only one. All Republicans were
paying attention to this, Clay, but it is an absolute mess.
It is a disaster, and I think that we all
need to start to grapple with the realities of the
healthcare system instead of really what it is is. They
(14:38):
just plan to make the whole thing collapse into a
single pair. That's the whole. They're just gonna make everything medicare.
They're going to try to do the Canada model here,
which is gonna be a nightmare everybody. It's just gonna
make it all worse when we come back. I want
to hear what MSNBC viewing was like this morning. Oh yeah,
saw you at the six box.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know things have gotten serious when you have six
people who simultaneously need to be taught talking about how
awful things are.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And I've also seen some of the Blue Sky reactions.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Blue Sky is the far left wing version of Twitter,
and they're having complete meltdowns there over the Democrats bending
the knee to King Trump.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
We'll talk about that. Unfortunately, we lost, Buck.
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We just moved. Finally, we've got YouTube TV.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I know there's been a big battle, but we had
the NFL Sunday ticket this weekend, the boys were watching.
President Trump was calling games. If you didn't see it,
he was in Washington in the press box breaking down
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the Detroit Lions. It was a lot of fun. We'll
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I'm a fellow Miamian.
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I two vouched for Buck as a forty plus year
old man walking uphill on a treadmill. It gets so hot, humid,
it's good summer exercise for high heart rates. Now Clay
wants to join in, as if we all forgot how
much he lambasted Buck and his masculinity as a treadmill guy.
Buck needs an apology. All of us working podcast listening
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treadmillers do too.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Now, look, I forgot, but this guy is onto something, Clay,
because you did give me a hard time over walking
up up uphill on the treadmill. True, it is true.
Now that was not live on the air. So there's
a possibility that I tear my acl trying to do this.
I don't know if it's a good move or a
crazy move. Is this what happens?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I get one hundred, one hundred and three mile an
hour serve and now we're just gonna do crazier physical
middle aged guy feats as we go along.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is I'm gonna get a picture. This is a
ridiculous idea. But but yeah, this is the first day here, all.
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out today. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
So the shutdown is about to end, and I was
curious how they were going to spin this. So this
morning I was a lovely morning. I was sitting there.
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was sitting there and I had little I had ginger
on one side, speed on the other, and I'm like,
all right, I'm I'm prepared. I'm prepared to subject myself
to the madness of.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Morning, not subject. You are the number one fan of
Morning Joe. Don't downplay it here.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You are the clay just because I am so dedicated
for this team that I'm willing to suffer through this.
Let's let's let's not pretend like I just want to
see what kind of zipsweater Joe is wearing so I
can mirror image it myself sometime, or I can watch
Mika get all hissy up there.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I don't know if some is going that well, buck,
I don't. I just just doing a little bit of
a viewing. They don't seem very happy.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I had a female co host on TV at
one point. I gotta tell you, marriage is tough enough.
I can't imagine being married and then showing up and
being co host on a TV show together as well.
That would be it's a lot, that's a that's a
lot of stuff. That's what I try not to text
Clay over the weekend, because like, fifteen hours during the
week of talking to each other not enough. I gotta
be like, hey, buddy, what's going on? What are you
(20:47):
up to? You know, we try to try to give
each other a little space on the weekends. As Clay
is now catching his breath on the treadmill, so we
have no he's good, he's money, he's some money.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm gonna be in such elite shape. People are not
gonna wreck it. Ggnies me now with this treadmill setup,
so mourning Joe. They had to come up with some
kind of a position on it. And I just want
you to get a sense. You already know where this
is going.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Somehow, the Democrats shut down the government caused all this pain,
didn't get the concession that they were demanding, didn't get
the you know, the the Rather, the hostage taking did
not result in what they actually wanted, and the real
takeaway here is that the American people, according to Morning Joe,
are blaming Republicans play for.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
This is not like a Republican position or a Democratic
position when it comes to the voters, and certainly not
an independent fight. This is not partisan. They're Americans in
red state America who desperately need this help. They're Americans
in blue state America that need this help too. But
(21:55):
I guarantee you from Dalton, Georgia, to Bucks County, Sylvania,
to every place in America, rural place in America, also listen.
The Republicans are not on their side, not in this debate.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And I just sounds a little bit like a guy
who's practicing a stump speech. Part one, Part two, Part two.
This is a Republican's fault, like they're just doing the
thing that we said they would do all along, which
is they've lit the fire. Okay, the house is now burning,
The fire department's coming, and they're walking around telling the neighbors,
can you believe these guys lit this fire? Clay, It's
(22:35):
crazy what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I also think it's kind of amazing how quickly we
went from boy, Republicans are really going to have to
have a civil war. Now two Democrats are at each
other's throats almost overnight, and I just wonder in a
larger context, you and I asked this question from the
get go. You can't enter into a decision like the
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Democrats did here with no exit ramp. We talked about
this for forty days. We said, there is no exit
ramp here. There is no goal that they are somehow,
in some form or fashion going to get. And so
again no King's protest on what was at October eighteenth,
that Saturday, beautiful day all over the country that Democrats
(23:23):
gave up to rally against President Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And then you had the election, and I do think.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It probably juice turnout in northern Virginia and helped them
get a little bit more political power in that state
than they otherwise would have. But then everybody who is
in any way moderate on the Democrat side of the
aisle just says, hey, we got to sue for peace
and buck I think the ultimate Yes, it was no Kings. Yes,
(23:51):
it was also the election having taken place. We told
you that it would get solved right after that. I
think what they didn't calculate was, I guarantee you they're
getting blown up about all of the issues at airports,
because it's one thing to hear, Hey, the government's shut
down and it's having this impact I'm talking about if
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you're not air traffic control, if you're not military, if
you're not a federal employee. But as soon as I
show up at the airport and I have to stand
in line for hours to get through TSA, or even
worse than that, you get to the airport, you stand
in line for hours at TSA, and then your flight
gets canceled. Democrat, Republican or independent. People are mad, and
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you don't want to be on the receiving end of
people being mad, especially when there isn't really a basis
for any kind of tangible result that they're going to get.
And that was why I actually thought about you this morning.
When I woke up, I was like, I don't want
to put on MSNBC. I got to get the kids
to school. I got to make sure that things are
going okay here. But a part of me was a
(24:58):
little bit jealous that you got to sit and watch
the chaos unspool on MSNBC, because I did put it
on for just a few minutes last night, just to
see all of the people on the panels saying, wait
a minute.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
They got us all worked up.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They told us that they were standing up to Trump,
and then the result is after forty days they say, well,
we made the conversation shift, Oh we made this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
They just failed and.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It just makes them look utterly incompetent, and a part
of me wonders if they're going to demand Chuck Schumer's
head on a platter over this Buck.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh guess what Sonny Hostin? Oh yeah, chief chief bitterness
analyst over at the View. She is. She's the queen
of Queen of bitter, just always always unhappy about something.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Being married to Sonny Hostin, Buck, can you imagine that
poor bastard husband, Like, how awful his life must be.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I bet he works one.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Hundred and eighty hours a week just to of having
to spend time with her. She just seems like an
energy vampire of epic magnitude. Even in the context of
the View. I don't think i'd be fun to be
married to Whoopie or Joy Behar, but they don't seem
like they're awful humans. Sunny Hostin seems to me to
be an awful human. She's a she's definitely. She really
(26:21):
should call her Sonny hostile. Oh yeah, she's very she's
very hostile.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yes, very hot. I mean she's very very unhospitable and hostile.
Here she is, she's hostile toward Chuck Schumer. It turns
out play twenty now they just cave and surrendered.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and he
cannot put that. If he cannot keep pockets together, if
he cannot keep this clockets together, he.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Needs to go Clay. What this really is is, uh,
you know, Reme remember the the two Minutes hate with
Emmanuel gold See in nineteen eighty four, where Evering just shouts,
you know, Emmanuel gold state, alright, so bad and no
one even don't even know who this guy is or
what's going on or whatever. But it's just meant to
(27:06):
get everybody. This is the Left just venting their spleen,
their rage, their anger at trump Ism, and this was
all in advance of the election, going to election day
to make them think Democrats are fighting. It was all
kabuki theater. It's all a pantomime.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I also think Buck this could be one of the
lasting impacts of it. They have created a world if
you go look at issues where people think, oh, Democrats,
they care about health care more than Republicans. Now, I'm
not saying that everybody out there listening right now believes this,
but they have created the idea, oh, we care way
more about healthcare than the opposing party. I actually think
(27:51):
the failure of Obamacare is going to open a larger
conversation about healthcare where we sit back and we say,
wait a minute. Structurally, all we did with Obamacare was
give huge subsidies to health insurance companies that huge majorities
of Americans don't like. Instead of I saw Trump put
(28:13):
up a truth post about this, Instead of putting more
money in people's pockets and letting them make rational decisions
about what health care they need or want that is
the best result for their family, for all of you
out there, they said, hey, let's just give way more
money to health insurance companies and let's mandate that everybody
(28:34):
has to buy health insurance. It's a really bad idea
that I don't think Republicans have really elucidated. Well, you
have the least popular for profit businesses in America, health
care companies, and the Democrats solution that people feel like
cheat them, that people feel like, don't give them adequate coverage, that,
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don't give them adequate customer service. Can you even get
get your healthcare provider insurance company on the phone? And
when you do, how many times do they actually help
you or even be able to explain why you're being
charged what you are? I mean, I hate health insurance companies.
Most of you do too. In fact, you might even
(29:17):
argue with your spouse over who has to call the
health insurance company when you have a billing dispute, because
it's such a miserable experience. And so the Democrats solution
to healthcare was to give the least popular industry in
America a handout of hundreds of billions of dollars to
(29:38):
make them more money. I'm sorry, that's a really bad
position for them to try to defend.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, you know, this is where you get into the
ways that this market is. It's not a market really
at all. It's manipulated so much that it's just central
it's just central planning held together with some elements of
the market in some place.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But Clay, this is when people find out that if
you have insurance, the price could be you know, six
hundred dollars for whatever it is that you're doing. If
you don't have insurance, the price can be three hundred dollars.
But if they find out you have insurance, you're not
(30:22):
allowed to pay the three hundred dollars no insurance price. Correct.
This is all about taking money from some people to
pay for other people who don't want to pay for
the stuff that they're getting. That is the whole thing.
And by the way, this is all it's not insurance.
It's not even insurance. You should not be paying for
(30:42):
you know, Rather, when you go into the doctor for
your checkup and for these things, you shouldn't be filing acclaim.
You know, you know, this is when people think about
with their car. When do you call your car insurance
If somebody t bones you at an intersection and you've
got real damage, right, or you know there's something that's
serials happened to your car, you don't call them. If
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you know, an acorn scratches the rim, you don't call
them for gas. But our whole healthcare system is just
that now to you know, everywhere you go, I can't
even get in Clay. I could go in somewhere, you know, Oh,
I think I have a sinus infection. I have to
fill out fifteen minutes of paperwork about all mine. Probably
even though it's all online now, you still have to
fill out the stupid paperwork over and over and over again.
(31:23):
What's your insurance? Do you have a secondary insure? Who's
your spouse?
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's all garbage. It's infuriating, It's infuriating.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And that's why I think Republicans have an opportunity here
because all Democrats have done is subsidize the most hated
industry in America and give them more money to an
already broken system. And I think that conversation is actually
going to become more paramount here because this is a major,
(31:51):
major issue, and look, Democrats are going to try to
make it an issue in twenty twenty six. I think
trying to defend health insurance companies as doing a good
job and deserving more of our money is not something
that most Americans are going to nod along with. And
I just come back to, time after time after time,
the reason healthcare is broken in this country is because
(32:13):
nobody has any idea that builds on just what you
were saying, Buck, what anything is going to cost?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hold on, no, you're not allowed to know. It's actually
worse than that, you're not allowed to know. That'st It's
not like you're just walking around, you know, like, oh,
just you know, who cares about whatever. I could go
into the back office of a hospital and say, hey, guys,
what is the actual cost of it? To say, we'll
get back to you in three months with a big bill.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
By the way, look, I talked about this when my
wife was having bait with our babies.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
It's one of the few healthcare things where you can
actually go around and ask what something costs.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I said, how much is it going to cost to have.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
A baby here? I'd like to compare that cost with
somewhere else. They said, well, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
How can you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Give me an opportunity to wre maternity wards and the
only thing you're not competing on, you're competing on Wi
Fi bamboo flooring, waiting rooms. You can't tell me what
the cost is it was, I can tell you it'sane.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Everybody out here in Miami Beach, uh in this area
at least, it's all it's all turning into concierge medicine. Yeah,
people are just doctors are just opting out of this system.
And it's not because they're being greedy. They just want
to be able to practice medicine without being paperwork. Uh,
you know, adult bureaucrats all day long, and so people
are just paying. This is what's gonna increasingly happen. And
(33:34):
you can have all these Democrats saying I love the
I love Obamacare. They're not Obambacare plans. Correct, They're on
gold plated, amazing plans. They see any doctor they want,
they don't pay anything. I mean, if friends, if you
want to want to see what their version of healthcare
looks like for all of us, go see how it
all was working out in the Soviet Uni. Yeah. Sure
it was all free.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But well you know the government employees who never gave
a paycheck. Yeah, everybody in Congress, they kept getting paid.
We'll take we'll take your calls on this, my friends.
Here at a moment, we're making progress with the Trump
administration with some of the spending cup acts, but the
debt is still huge, thirty seven trillion in counting. Inflation
is still a problem, cost of living is high. I
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're rolling
through the Monday edition of the program. Shutdown is over effectively, Buck.
If you're wondering out there, you're maybe been missing a paycheck,
maybe you haven't been able to go to work. It
appears Thursday, the official official end of the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
We'll get here. The vote is Wednesday, right, the actual
all Senate. Okay, we're open. That's supposed to happen Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But in general, that is the direction we are headed,
is to having that situation resolved sooner rather than sooner.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Rather than later.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
That doesn't mean, however, I saw up on the screen
that we are dealing with unbelievable amounts of canceled flights today,
a lot of you out there having to deal with
a great deal of frustration associated with this UH and
certainly all of this has blown up in the Democrat faces.
We'll take some of your calls eight hundred and two
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two two eight a two. Also a couple of other
stories to get into in the next hour or Buck
Michelle Obama. I don't think she continues to do interviews.
She is complaining maybe the least grateful person who has
had immense amounts of should have immense amounts of gratitude. Ever,
we will talk about that. The BBC screw up pretty significant.
(36:18):
You may not care, but it's yet another thing that
a major news organization has gotten wrong. And the Olympics
have decided to line up buck and ban trans people,
that's men pretending to be women from being able to
compete going forward. So all of that moving in a
very very positive direction, with sanity hopefully returning in that respect.
(36:44):
So we will break down all of that as we
roll into the second hour of the program.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's going to be a fantastic so might even say
fabulous second hour of Clay and Buck Radio. Amen eight
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