November 17, 2023 • 37 mins
MLB returns All-Star game to Atlanta after pulling it for bogus political reasons in 2022. Pro-Hamas protesters occupy lobby at Fox News HQ. Biden plugs Newsom for president. Clay predicts Michelle Obama might replace Biden at the convention. New GOP primary poll in NH interesting takeaways: DeSantis in 5th place. C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate Buck keeping the ship afloat yesterday as
we roll into what, for many of you will be
the last day before you head out all over the country,
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potentially for Thanksgiving. I know the Travis family is going
to be on the road starting tomorrow to head all
over the place, and I know many of you will
as well. I'm going to try to bring you some
sanity and what is unfortunately becoming an even more insane world.
We've got all sorts of stories to track, but in
particular everything falling apart with the Israeli Palestinian relationship as
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it pertains to the politics here in the United States,
to say nothing of what's going on in Gaza, Joe
Biden not surprisingly sliding on his own classified documents issue.
We will discuss the latest on that this story happened yesterday, Buck,
while you were while you were on the air, and
I happened to catch the thing trending on Twitter. Major
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League Baseball has returned the All Star Game to Atlanta,
which effectively acknowledges that Jim Crow.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Two point zero was a complete lie.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And this story, to me, Buck, is emblematic of so
much that occurs in America today. And I actually saw
it as somewhat connected to COVID for those of you
who didn't know, and that maybe a decent number of
you out there Major League Baseball bought into. Remember Joe
Biden running around saying that the Georgia voting law wasn't
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just Jim Crow, it was Jim Eagle. And he did
the speech trying to claim that this was the worst
thing basically that had happened to the country since the
Civil War, if I remember correctly, Buck, He tried to
say that anyone that was involved in this Georgia votvoting
bill was basically on the side of the Confederacy and
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Jefferson Davis. And it was a really strange historical argument.
It's all why all of it was a lie. Stacey
Abrams and Joe Biden got the national media to buy
into the idea that by strengthening voting rules in the
state of Georgia that somehow black people were going to
be discriminated against. And this was a return to the
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Jim Crow era South and this was going to be
totally unacceptable, and it became such a major narrative story
that Major League Baseball pulled the All Star Game out
of Atlanta. Buck then the twenty twenty two election happens.
There are zero issues with any black voters anywhere in
the state. They had I believe, record turnout in twenty
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twenty two compared to the prior midterm in twenty eighteen.
And we know, unfortunately herschel Walker lost, the Reverend Rafael
Warnock won. Every other statewide office won comfortably by seven
or eight points by Republicans, including Brian Kemp, trouncing Stacy Abrams.
And now yesterday Rob Manfred, the commissioner of Major League Baseball,
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just comes out and says, oh, we're returning the All
Star Game to Atlanta now for twenty twenty five. Well,
at the last moment, they had moved it to Denver,
and they had tried to say it was because they
wouldn't stand for voter disenfranchisement. And now they're coming back.
The law is still in effect, and there are no
consequences for Major League Baseball getting this completely wrong. For
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everyone in the media who ran with this story as
being completely wrong, there's almost no acknowledgment of it at all.
And Buck what it ties in with me is there
is no actual consequences for significant things that people get
wrong when the facts develop and the truth comes out.
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There's just a totally memory holding of stories like these
and almost no one ever acknowledges that they ever believe
it in the first place. And it's just emblematic I
think of what we're seeing in so many facets of
life when left wing stories collapse.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean, I haven't watched a baseball game in like
twenty five years, so I'm not super up on the
latest with MLB in terms of how woke it is
or how it stacks up against the other leagues. But
you know, to your point about the cowardice and consequences,
people don't executives who make these kinds of decisions really
at any corporation these days, you never get fired for
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trying to bend the need of the wokeness. And so
as long as that continues, you're going to see more
of this and people just realize, or people believe, I
should say, that this is just the safer option for
them all the time, and that's why you have what
you have By the way, you know there are protesters
right now in you know Clay Clay works for Fox News.
(04:52):
I do not, Yes, Clay was at the Patriotard Jester edgewoo,
which'll tell us a little bit about later this hour.
But there are protesters in the Fox News lobby. And
what I just wonder is, what do they think that
they're doing other than just annoying people because they're miserable
malcontents who support terrorists. Like, I'm just wondering, what do
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they think trespassing in the Fox News lobby is really good?
Because they think that someone's going to walk into Fox
News and be like, you know what, Bin Laden did
have a point and Hamas isn't that bad? Like what
are these idiots doing other than just harassed people basically
because they're miserable.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And by the way, and the Patriot Awards were fantastic.
I know, I met a bunch of our listeners. I
appreciate everybody who came out streamed on Fox Nation this show.
By the way, I don't know if this is public yet,
I might as well go ahead and say it. This
show will be streaming on Fox Nation behind the paywall
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at Fox Nation for all three hours starting in the
next few months.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So, by the way, if you're out.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
There and you don't have a great radio signal for
some reason, or you want for some reason to see
spectacular images video wise of you and me every day
and you want.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
To see if klaiin Bucker having good hair days. Okay,
that's not going to get any of you to watch.
I do have a puppy that I will have in
my lap sometimes because I have the babysitter during the
radio show. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Your puppy is one of the cutest puppies that I
have ever seen. Like, I'm very happy, I have to
be honest, like when we were just down in Miami.
But it actually goes beyond that buck because there's a
recent article talking about how many Jewish people are putting
on Fox News because Fox News is just pointing out
that Israel has the right to defend itself and so
many left wing news organizations refuse to adopt that perspective.
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And I actually think this is the best thing that
could happen to Fox News. Crazy Palestinian protesters showing up
in the lobby. You've been in that lobby a ton
of times. Their security all through there, so they're trespassing.
I don't know what they'll eventually do to get them out.
Maybe they're already gone, because I haven't seen an update recently.
But it just makes Fox looks super rational, and it
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just makes normal people look rational.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, this is like whatever, there's a conservative speech on campus.
I always say this, the best thing that can happen
is a bunch of blue haired, shrieking banshees show up
screaming about like fascism and white supremacy and you know whatever. Yeah,
because that video that then goes online is the best
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advertisment for the left. Is insane. And oh, by the way,
go see you know, go see this speech by so
and so right. I mean, there's nothing that is a
more helpful. And in the case of Fox News, there's
a cable news network that, after Israel's nine to eleven,
is generally approaching the issue in terms of coverage, but
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certainly in terms of commentary and editorial as a moment
of moral clarity. Yes, and that is Fox News. And
Fox News stands with Israel and the Jewish people after
this attack, and of course after all the anti Semitic
protests that we've seen. Meanwhile, MSNBC is like, like, hey, guys,
let's kind of watch the pro Hamas pro terrorist Bin
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Laden had good ideas stuff a little bit on their staff.
They got a whole different range of views over there.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And it's not just MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm sure you saw Buck Gail King with the father
of the hostage, lecturing the father of the hostage about
the fact that bad things were happening to Palestinian people
too on CBS This Morning, which I think is a
CBS This Morning whatever their morning show is called. I
just I watched that video and I just thought to myself,
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can you imagine having had a child who is captive
by Hamas for coming up on what six weeks now,
and you're trying to do everything you can to get
that child back, and you sit across the accounter from
somebody on a morning show and she's like, well, you know,
bad things are happening to Hamas too. It's like, yeah,
I wish there weren't awful things happening in the world.
I just want my kid back. And so you trying
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to moral equivo equivocate what's going on with Israel and
Hamas when my kid has been held hostage for two months.
To my knowledge, Buck, Israel has never had any Hamas
kids hostage for two months so far as I know,
in the history of their existence as a country. Maybe
I've missed it. Maybe they're regularly grabbing infants and holding
the hostage and not returning them.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But there's a million ways you can set up the
the the clear difference here. You know, if a if
a Heimas fighter, you know, was was wounded and surrendered
on the battlefield and was no longer an active threat,
you know, the Israelis would would capture him, take him,
give him medical care, and give him a judicial proceeding
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of some kind. If an Israeli id F fighters captured
by Hamas, I mean, they would commit Isis level horrific tortures,
mutilation and murder. Yes, these differences exist, They are real.
This is not just some construct that we haven't in
the West, and you know this is in this country,
I think, Clay, we've been talking about it. You really see,
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especially with the there's this effort to kind of conflate
BLM and that machinery with the Palestinian cause, there's been
a lot of that. You know, you've seen people and
there's a little less now of the you know, trans
rights for Palestine, because I think that people have started
to realize that the mockery is too obvious there with
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you definitely don't want to be a trans person in Gaza.
That would not be a Hamas would not take well
to that. Yes, But but the race issue here is
so the left. It basically the left is so obsessed
with race that it almost can't you know, it's like
when everything when all you have is a hammer, you know,
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everything looks like a nail. They can't view this outside
of a racial lens that is entirely inapplicable and at
best distorted when applied to this conflict. This isn't just
you know, white people, brown people and oppressor or un oppressed,
and that's not reality.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
No, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And it is a failure of and I know you
talked about this yesterday, it is a failure of American
society that we have, to a large degree with kids
lost the ability.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
To distinguish between good and evil.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I think a big part of that is because
most of what kids experience in America is not in
the prism of good versus evil, Because most things that
happen in America are pretty good right to your point,
you can have basically any sexual issue attraction in America
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and have pretty good for you, right. And so I
think so many people have lost concept of what the
rest of the world is like, that they have bought
into this idea that America is evil and as a result,
they aren't able to see and distinguish between good and
evil in the real world. And that is incredibly troubling.
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And we talked about this for a while. When this
initial attack on October seventh happen, you will get the
numbers for people under the age of thirty five, they're
basically fifty to fifty on who's that faultier, Israel or Amas,
And if you're over sixty five, it's a ninety five.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
To five issue.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Why do older people have such greater sense of moral clarity,
right and wrong, good and evil in this country than
young people. I think it's because we failed a young
generation of Americans in creating this artificial dynamic which you're discussing,
which is white equals bad, brown equals good, and in
that rubric has to be applied no matter what.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
In every single storyline.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, if you look at the rise in the
usage in the media, and there have been studies on this,
so this is something that's just a data driven, a
data driven reality. The rise in the use of not
just racism, but white supremacy and white supremacists, and all
of a sudden in the last ten ten or so years,
America has become obsessed with anti racism, anti whiteness, all
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these different white supremacy, these different concepts, and that has
had real effect, I think, particularly on the on the
younger generation. I think on I think people who are
under the age of thirty, when they think about politics,
they're first the first thing they go to is, well,
what are the skin colors of the people involved? Or
you don't to think about a conflict, what are the
skin colors of the people involved? And that's how they
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that is their fundamental framework for how you deal when
it comes to police, when it comes to you know,
law enforcement issues in general, when it comes to economics
in society, and certainly when it comes to armed conflict.
They take this approach of like, well, you know, what
are the historical injustices and what are the races of
the people involved? And we see that. I mean you
saw yesterday, I know you were busy with the with
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the Fox stuff that you were tuning in and out sometimes.
And we talked about this thing on TikTok of people
saying JN. Loaden had a point. Yeah, I just if
you think Ben Laden had a point in his letter
to America, bin Laden would have free license to kill
any number of Americans in any way for any length
of time because he's upset because there's some things that
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bother him. That's it. I mean, there's there's no limitation,
there's no laws of war, there's no ethics, there's no morality.
It's I don't like what America is doing in these places,
so I can kill everybody. And people went along with this.
Oh and by the way, I asked, you know, Bidlan's
opinion on like gays and minorities. I don't think the
left would like them if they really knew them. And
women and women.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, just the general collapse, I will say I find
it to be clarifying and important, and it has been
illuminating to me and I know to many of you,
to see exactly how broken many of our institutions and
our groups are.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I mean, imagine for a second, if there was a
major if there was a major trending, and it was,
you know, all over going viral that there were people saying,
you know, Timothy McVeigh, You know, I think that guy
had some really interesting thoughts, and I think we should
go back and like look at his manifesto. I mean,
the country the media people be like uniformly horrified, right,
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and yet yesterday it was that Bin Lauden, I mean
Laden had some interesting ideas. This is this is how
far the brain rot has gone to the cerebral cortex
of the left.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Think about this book. What if Dylan Roof had the
Charleston shooter who walked into and killed all the black
people in the church in Charleston, What if he had
published a manifesto and it was trending on TikTok and
it was like, hey, you know what, Dylan Roof had
some really good points to make. I mean again, they
would immediately condemn it because it is a white person
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who is evil.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But when there is someone who.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is not white that is engaged in completely evil acts,
they lack the ability.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
To acknowledge and and condemn it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
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in San Francisco, so they cleaned up that city, because
you know, when the world's biggest communist arrives, the lesser
communists have to make things look nice. But this was interesting,
Joe Biden, this is cut nineteen. I want you to
hear Biden says. We'll probably talk about it more in
just a moment, play it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I want to talk about Governor Newsom. I want to
thank him. He's been one hell of a governor man.
Matter of fact, he could do what he could have
a job I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He could have the job I'm looking for. Obviously a
reference to the president, but we think he means in
twenty eight, right right.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I thought hope it would be super self aware of
Biden if he were making a joke about twenty four.
Does Biden seem super self aware to you, Buck? He
doesn't like. The whole thing was a bit strange. The
Gavin Newsome Joe Biden. We need to talk about the
Gavin Newsom Joe Biden relationship. Like something is going on
here that just doesn't add up. And we'll take some
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We were just playing
for you. Biden joking ish and saying that maybe Gavin
Newsom could end up being the president of the United
States one day job that he wants. Now, maybe if
you're being charitable to Biden, you can say, Okay, that's
a reference to Newsom as potentially being a candidate in
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twenty eight. But if that were the case, it's kind
of disrespectable as vice president, right because then he's like, Hey,
the person who I didn't pick to be my vice
president is actually way better than my vice president, and
like that's.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
A disrespect though that Joe himself had to accept, if
you recall vice president for eight years, and then the
party was like it's Hillary.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, And not only the party, I mean his boss.
Joe Biden, who knew I mean Barack Obama, who knew
Joe Biden better than anybody, said you're not up for
the job. And it's always worth remembering Biden didn't didn't
get endorsed by Obama until after he'd already gotten the nomination.
That's a pretty big kick in the teeth, right, I mean,
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if you know somebody so well, Barack Obama said, yeah,
I'm not going to get involved in the twenty twenty
presidential primary. I think because he probably knew that Joe
Biden wasn't up to the job. He certainly was aware
of everything surrounding Hunter and why that was going to
be potentially calamitous in nature eventually. But the more I
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think about it, and I was at the Patriot Awards,
let me say it was fabulous. They honored the Nashville
police officers who killed the transhooter. We still need the manifesto,
trust me, I know I live here, but there were
thousands of people out there, a lot of our listeners.
It was a really cool experience. But everybody was talking
about Biden and it was all like, you know, you're
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standing around, you're having a beer, like there's no way
he's going to be able to do this right. And
to me, buck watching everything that's happened with Chairman Z
coming to California and everything getting cleaned up, Biden still
can't get off the stage. He doesn't really make sense
on a day to day basis with anything when the
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remotely gets off the prompter, even though he can barely
read the prompter. Something's going on, and I just I know,
I thought, and look, you can go back and read
the transcripts of this show. You can go back and
listen to him. I thought that he would announce that
he's not running and they would have a real primary.
But I'm more and more convinced Buck that at the
Democrat convention, they're going to pull the They're going to
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pull up you.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And Uncle Bill, You and Bill O'Reilly. Bill has been
saying this since last since last summer. You guys are
extending this one out to the very end. You're well,
eleventh hour.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I have to because I said that he would have
to announce by the end of this year that he
was not going to run in twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
There is now. I mean, you and I can sit
here and say that there is not a way for
Democrats to have a primary and get people on ballots
and have a serious election based on the way the
state laws are written and everything else as of now,
like it's we've the deadline has passed. So the only
way that there are really two options now Biden steps
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down and Kamala takes over, which I've always said would
be a possibility. That's their total fallback plan. You're saying
the the real break the glass plan is floor fight
Democrat convention consensus candidate, and they just rally behind that individual.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
My reasons why call, by the way, it is a
bold call. The reason why I didn't buy this before
was I thought that they would have a real difficulty
if Biden announces he's not going to run of elevating
Kamala Harris, because how do you not in an identity
politics dominated Democrat party put the black woman who's the
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vice president into that all without it being sexist and racist.
And my real thought, and this will be an incredible call.
This will be like Babe Ruth calling eight consecutive home
runs here. I think the way they get away with
it buck is I still Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Oh my god, you're going with the Michelle Obama p one.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The more the more I think about it, Then they
get a black woman in and it's like Kamala Harris
can't be like it's racist and sexist now and Michelle
Obama gets to play the I didn't want to do this,
but I'm running against Donald Trump. The soul of our
nation is at stake, and somebody has to stop Trump,
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and I'm willing to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
What you're what you're talking about is a better screenplay.
But it's just gonna be Biden, everybody, And I know
it's just gonna be Biden. And if you look at
the latest, I'm not Look, we had Kim Reynolds on yesterday,
who is one of the most important endorsements.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
How was she, by the way, were you impressed with
her advocacy for the say at this she did a
good job. Yeah, No, she's she's she's excellent, very very
doing very well as governor in Iowa. And you know,
I just we had her aunch governor of Iowa. She's
endorsed Fronds Santis Iowa Coxes are coming up and and
I just, you know, let her make her case both
on on border issues as well as on she thinks
(24:17):
why she thinks Ron is the best. It's so funny
at some people are like, why are you letting her
just make her case. It's like we had Sarah Huckabee
Sanders on the day before to make her case.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
She's endorsed Trump. We're just letting people who are important
voices in the party have, you know, access to this platform.
And with that, and I'm just with that in mind.
The latest New Hampshire GOP primary polling that we get
this is a Monmouth poll. Okay, it's the real polling agency,
not like some click poll online.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
That no one can have.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Right. Trump is at forty six percent, Haley is at
eighteen percent, Christy is at eleven percent, Ramaswami at eight,
DeSantis at seven. If this is real and he's gonna
come in fifth, in fifth in New Hampshire, I'm not
even sure Iowa was enough to change to change the story.
(25:07):
That's all. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, but
that's Those are not the numbers the DeSantis team wants
to see in New Hampshire. Right now, I thank Chris
Christie at eleven percent. Eleven percent in this.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Point, I actually on that pole. This is going to
be intriguing in New Hampshire. In particular, Biden's not on
the ballot. Remember, so they have the whatever that guy's
name is, you know, Ryan Filippe or whoever he is
that's running was his Dean film.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Look, that's an actor who was in cruel intentions.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I know it was a talent.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
That was a good movie.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Cruel intentions back in the day, Sarah Michelle Geller. Uh,
can't remember who else was in it, but I think
she was in it. And Ryan Felipe, by the way,
married Reese Witherspoon, if you remember that, they had several kids.
And Reese Witherspoon's now a billionaire, so maybe bad move
by him to get divorced from her.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But the if you look at New Hampshire.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Because there isn't going to really be Biden on the ballot,
Democrats are the ones that are supporting Chris Christy and
to a large extent Nicki Haley. So again the deep
dive on that Monmuth poll that you're referencing there. Remember
they I believe I'm correcting this. In New Hampshire, they
have day of primary voting, so you can decide whether
(26:19):
you're going to vote in the Republican primary or the
Democrat primary. And I know Russian past has talked about
project chaos, where like operating go out, yeah, Operation chaos
and vote on the opposite side. I wonder to what
extent without Biden on the ballot, those Democrat and independent
voters in New Hampshire could really swing what the outcomes.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
But see here Here's why this this is a little
you know, this starts to get a little more complicated.
I think when you're extrapolating from the data, Niki, do
you see the nik Nikki Haley according to the polls
right now. So what you're saying is almost like the
Democrats are going to push for some of these candidates
in New Hampshire. You'd think they'd be doing that to
try to help a weaker candidate and make sure that
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for example, Ron DeSantis, who has been really a big
fear of Democrats, or at least was a big fear
of Democrats, will be will essentially fade. Right, Yeah, Nicki Haley.
Right now, when all the polling is absolutely destroying Joe Biden,
It's like she's like winning by crazy numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Now the question on that, and you're right, and you
look at those numbers and I mean she's up fourteen
points in some swing states. I mean, I mean, it's
truly extraordinary. What you wonder on that is how much
of that is because a lot of people don't know
Nicki Haley? Right There hasn't been hardly any money spent
attacking her and trying to define her. But this is
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it for the Remember we took calls earlier this week.
This is the Nicky Haley argument. It is that because
she's in her fifties and she's a mom, and she
seems pretty, you know, it's hard to be like, Nicky
Haley is going to show up at your book at
your book at your party.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah. Yeah. She gets more heat from the Republican base
than she does from Democrats by far. Yes. Now is
that something to view as an advantage in the general
or is that something to be distrusted. I think a
lot of people would argue on that point.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I think Nicky Haley on the abortion issue would bring
in a ton of suburban mom voters. Which is why,
even if Nicki Haley didn't win, I think Trump would
have to look at her seriously as a VP if
he were the nominee, because I really do think it's
hard to argue that Nicki Haley is. You know, for
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all the suburban wine drinking moms in their book groups
sitting around discussing whatever the latest novel is, whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
The latest Price Witherspoon movie is. It's always about some
girl who has a big important job in the city,
some lady, and then she goes out to the country
with a little town where she was born around Thanksgiving
and she finds this rustically handsome man.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm married now, so I have to watch these things.
Oh I've seen, trust me a decent number of these
over the years. I also have a deep knowledge of
the Real Housewives of Orange County and Beverly Hills for
anybody out there that needs strong takes on those, thanks
to being married for the last twenty years. But you know,
it's hard to argue that she is going to represent
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the Republican shock troops that are going to show up
on the door and make sure that if somebody's pregnant
they have a baby. That what's what's the movie that
everybody likes to dress up like, or the television show
or a Handmaid's Tale? The Handmaid's Tale, Like they're going
to try to turn Trump and all these men into
a Handmaid's Tale. It doesn't work for Nicky Haley. So
now the question is if the Democrats turn their full
(29:42):
on at tax scale onto Nicky Haley, would a lot
of her electability crumble because she hasn't been defined that well,
remember what they did to Mitt Romney. I'll just point
out who is the most blandly inoffensive.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You know, Republican. He was a dog abusing high school
bully who fired people so that they could have no
health insurance while their wives had cancer. That was when
they turned mit Romney and he had binders of women.
He was sexist, he was misogynistic like and he is
ned Flanders, right, I mean he is.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
With a big bank account yep, yeah, sure yeah. And
so what would they do to Nicki Haley? I think
that's a fair question. The flip side is, I do
think she would appeal to a lot of suburban women.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Let's take some of these calls. What do you guys
think about these new Hampshire numbers? Do you think it
means anything or is it just a blip on the radar?
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Yesterday Clay was out and we had some it was
breaking news, but I couldn't confirm it in the last
few minutes of the show. But it has been confirmed
since then that Joe Bid we want to talk about
this is not going to be charged, which was the
most obvious thing in the world. But I think it's
worth discussing anyway how this all goes because he won't
be charged for classified document stuff. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, as
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we know, is facing and he was president. Joe Biden
was vice president during this. There's all these things that
come into play, but Biden will not be charged. We're
talking about that a little bit, plus a little more
legal issues perhaps on the horizon for Hunter Biden, which
we shall discuss. But we said we won't to take
your calls. Let's do it. We have Jeff and Florida.
(32:33):
What's going on? Jeff? Oh, Jeff is gone. Sorry. Diane
in Virginia, what's up, Diane?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Hey there.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I think that we all forget that Barack Obama told
us exactly what he was going to do. He was
going to fundamentally change America, and it didn't start with him.
It started with the weather underground and they were supporting him.
He was their spokesperson. He did it, He's done it.
It didn't start with him just you know, getting president.
It started in the universities with those professors. And even
(33:06):
now his advisors are in Joe Biden's camp. And it's
not ending. It's not gonna end. And if you want
to know who's going to be the next Democratic president,
ask Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
That's why I say it's gonna be That's why I
said it's gonna be Michelle, and I think it gets
them over the black woman hump that otherwise is going
to be difficult at the convention.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I think that's why I thought Biden would step down
because then it allowed a primary, uh, and otherwise I
think it's gonna be hard to pick a white guy
and not take the black female vice president.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I gotta tell you also, thank you Dian for calling in.
I Gavin Newsom, who gets talked about so much, and
we played that SoundBite of Biden saying, you know, he
could even have my job, which whatever, It's like, what
job is that, Joe, because clearly you're not really the president.
Gavin Newsom not only would have to leap over in
a sense, the first black female vice president if he
(34:00):
were to be the nominee. I don't think. I'm not
sure that Gavin Newsom has the strength in the black community,
you know, Democrat sort of base that he would need
to win people forget that Joe Biden does. Joe Biden
has that and has had that, and Michelle Obama would
certainly have it well. Michelle Obama would certainly have it right.
But that's what I'm saying. That's why Gavin Newsom I
(34:21):
don't think is necessarily this. I don't think Gavin Newsom
would be a candidate who would necessarily do any better
than Joe Biden would. I don't. I don't buy that.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Well.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I think they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's why I think they almost need to break the
glass and come up within outside of the box candidate
like Michelle Obama, because I don't buy JB. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer,
Gavin Newsom, certainly not Kamala Harris. These people are not
necessarily better than Joe Biden would be.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I hear you, man, I mean, maybe you're right, or
maybe it's just gonna be Biden. I'm right, and I'm
gonna make sure they're like shaving those white truffles. It's
like one hundred dollars for every movement of the hand.
I don't think I've ever.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Even bought truffles. This is this is gonna turn into
the most expensive meal of my life.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the thing where
they send over the son Elia and I would be like,
excuse me, sir, I'd like your finest bottle of wine
on mister Travis's account. Let's get to uh, where are
we having, Oh, Peter in Arizona? What's up, Peter?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah, guys thinks. First off, go cowboys and deck to
the future. Look, my brother and I talk a lot,
and we cannot understand, for the life of us, why
can't the left process what really is going over in
Hamas Israel, the Palestinian conflict. And as we talked about
(35:35):
it more and more we go, you know what, so
and you and Buck you pretty much swung into it.
The left thieves brown and the Palestinians. Yeah, and they
see the stews as white, and they can't see facts,
they can't see truth, they can't decipher what's.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Really going on.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Other other than.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
The oppressors, the colonizers, the white and you know, they're
the ones that are there at fault and it's not
You've got to be kidding me. And they cannot process this.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Out correctly, Well they can't. They they have to thank
you for calling in. We have been talking about this
and they can't process the truth. So they have to
live in this unreality that it is a white oppression
of brown people conflict. Yes, and it's far more it
is not that at its core, and it's also far
more complex on both sides than that.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And this also ties in with what we've seen happen
since the rise of BLM, which is the lie that
black people are being hunted and targeted and murdered by
police at rates that are completely outside of the bounds
for any other race.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And again the data.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Seventy five percent of people shot by police are white,
Asian or Hispanic.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That blows people's minds.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know what's also interesting, if you're an Arab American
and you apply to college or university, you don't get
affirmative action. You're not considered a depressed minority, but only
polis
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate Buck keeping the ship afloat yesterday as
we roll into what, for many of you will be
the last day before you head out all over the country,
(00:20):
potentially for Thanksgiving. I know the Travis family is going
to be on the road starting tomorrow to head all
over the place, and I know many of you will
as well. I'm going to try to bring you some
sanity and what is unfortunately becoming an even more insane world.
We've got all sorts of stories to track, but in
particular everything falling apart with the Israeli Palestinian relationship as
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it pertains to the politics here in the United States,
to say nothing of what's going on in Gaza, Joe
Biden not surprisingly sliding on his own classified documents issue.
We will discuss the latest on that this story happened yesterday, Buck,
while you were while you were on the air, and
I happened to catch the thing trending on Twitter. Major
(01:07):
League Baseball has returned the All Star Game to Atlanta,
which effectively acknowledges that Jim Crow.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Two point zero was a complete lie.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And this story, to me, Buck, is emblematic of so
much that occurs in America today. And I actually saw
it as somewhat connected to COVID for those of you
who didn't know, and that maybe a decent number of
you out there Major League Baseball bought into. Remember Joe
Biden running around saying that the Georgia voting law wasn't
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just Jim Crow, it was Jim Eagle. And he did
the speech trying to claim that this was the worst
thing basically that had happened to the country since the
Civil War, if I remember correctly, Buck, He tried to
say that anyone that was involved in this Georgia votvoting
bill was basically on the side of the Confederacy and
(02:03):
Jefferson Davis. And it was a really strange historical argument.
It's all why all of it was a lie. Stacey
Abrams and Joe Biden got the national media to buy
into the idea that by strengthening voting rules in the
state of Georgia that somehow black people were going to
be discriminated against. And this was a return to the
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Jim Crow era South and this was going to be
totally unacceptable, and it became such a major narrative story
that Major League Baseball pulled the All Star Game out
of Atlanta. Buck then the twenty twenty two election happens.
There are zero issues with any black voters anywhere in
the state. They had I believe, record turnout in twenty
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twenty two compared to the prior midterm in twenty eighteen.
And we know, unfortunately herschel Walker lost, the Reverend Rafael
Warnock won. Every other statewide office won comfortably by seven
or eight points by Republicans, including Brian Kemp, trouncing Stacy Abrams.
And now yesterday Rob Manfred, the commissioner of Major League Baseball,
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just comes out and says, oh, we're returning the All
Star Game to Atlanta now for twenty twenty five. Well,
at the last moment, they had moved it to Denver,
and they had tried to say it was because they
wouldn't stand for voter disenfranchisement. And now they're coming back.
The law is still in effect, and there are no
consequences for Major League Baseball getting this completely wrong. For
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everyone in the media who ran with this story as
being completely wrong, there's almost no acknowledgment of it at all.
And Buck what it ties in with me is there
is no actual consequences for significant things that people get
wrong when the facts develop and the truth comes out.
(03:53):
There's just a totally memory holding of stories like these
and almost no one ever acknowledges that they ever believe
it in the first place. And it's just emblematic I
think of what we're seeing in so many facets of
life when left wing stories collapse.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I mean, I haven't watched a baseball game in like
twenty five years, so I'm not super up on the
latest with MLB in terms of how woke it is
or how it stacks up against the other leagues. But
you know, to your point about the cowardice and consequences,
people don't executives who make these kinds of decisions really
at any corporation these days, you never get fired for
(04:29):
trying to bend the need of the wokeness. And so
as long as that continues, you're going to see more
of this and people just realize, or people believe, I
should say, that this is just the safer option for
them all the time, and that's why you have what
you have By the way, you know there are protesters
right now in you know Clay Clay works for Fox News.
(04:52):
I do not, Yes, Clay was at the Patriotard Jester edgewoo,
which'll tell us a little bit about later this hour.
But there are protesters in the Fox News lobby. And
what I just wonder is, what do they think that
they're doing other than just annoying people because they're miserable
malcontents who support terrorists. Like, I'm just wondering, what do
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they think trespassing in the Fox News lobby is really good?
Because they think that someone's going to walk into Fox
News and be like, you know what, Bin Laden did
have a point and Hamas isn't that bad? Like what
are these idiots doing other than just harassed people basically
because they're miserable.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And by the way, and the Patriot Awards were fantastic.
I know, I met a bunch of our listeners. I
appreciate everybody who came out streamed on Fox Nation this show.
By the way, I don't know if this is public yet,
I might as well go ahead and say it. This
show will be streaming on Fox Nation behind the paywall
(05:50):
at Fox Nation for all three hours starting in the
next few months.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So, by the way, if you're out.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
There and you don't have a great radio signal for
some reason, or you want for some reason to see
spectacular images video wise of you and me every day
and you want.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
To see if klaiin Bucker having good hair days. Okay,
that's not going to get any of you to watch.
I do have a puppy that I will have in
my lap sometimes because I have the babysitter during the
radio show. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Your puppy is one of the cutest puppies that I
have ever seen. Like, I'm very happy, I have to
be honest, like when we were just down in Miami.
But it actually goes beyond that buck because there's a
recent article talking about how many Jewish people are putting
on Fox News because Fox News is just pointing out
that Israel has the right to defend itself and so
many left wing news organizations refuse to adopt that perspective.
(06:40):
And I actually think this is the best thing that
could happen to Fox News. Crazy Palestinian protesters showing up
in the lobby. You've been in that lobby a ton
of times. Their security all through there, so they're trespassing.
I don't know what they'll eventually do to get them out.
Maybe they're already gone, because I haven't seen an update recently.
But it just makes Fox looks super rational, and it
(07:01):
just makes normal people look rational.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, this is like whatever, there's a conservative speech on campus.
I always say this, the best thing that can happen
is a bunch of blue haired, shrieking banshees show up
screaming about like fascism and white supremacy and you know whatever. Yeah,
because that video that then goes online is the best
(07:23):
advertisment for the left. Is insane. And oh, by the way,
go see you know, go see this speech by so
and so right. I mean, there's nothing that is a
more helpful. And in the case of Fox News, there's
a cable news network that, after Israel's nine to eleven,
is generally approaching the issue in terms of coverage, but
(07:43):
certainly in terms of commentary and editorial as a moment
of moral clarity. Yes, and that is Fox News. And
Fox News stands with Israel and the Jewish people after
this attack, and of course after all the anti Semitic
protests that we've seen. Meanwhile, MSNBC is like, like, hey, guys,
let's kind of watch the pro Hamas pro terrorist Bin
(08:05):
Laden had good ideas stuff a little bit on their staff.
They got a whole different range of views over there.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And it's not just MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm sure you saw Buck Gail King with the father
of the hostage, lecturing the father of the hostage about
the fact that bad things were happening to Palestinian people
too on CBS This Morning, which I think is a
CBS This Morning whatever their morning show is called. I
just I watched that video and I just thought to myself,
(08:33):
can you imagine having had a child who is captive
by Hamas for coming up on what six weeks now,
and you're trying to do everything you can to get
that child back, and you sit across the accounter from
somebody on a morning show and she's like, well, you know,
bad things are happening to Hamas too. It's like, yeah,
I wish there weren't awful things happening in the world.
I just want my kid back. And so you trying
(08:56):
to moral equivo equivocate what's going on with Israel and
Hamas when my kid has been held hostage for two months.
To my knowledge, Buck, Israel has never had any Hamas
kids hostage for two months so far as I know,
in the history of their existence as a country. Maybe
I've missed it. Maybe they're regularly grabbing infants and holding
the hostage and not returning them.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But there's a million ways you can set up the
the the clear difference here. You know, if a if
a Heimas fighter, you know, was was wounded and surrendered
on the battlefield and was no longer an active threat,
you know, the Israelis would would capture him, take him,
give him medical care, and give him a judicial proceeding
(09:38):
of some kind. If an Israeli id F fighters captured
by Hamas, I mean, they would commit Isis level horrific tortures,
mutilation and murder. Yes, these differences exist, They are real.
This is not just some construct that we haven't in
the West, and you know this is in this country,
I think, Clay, we've been talking about it. You really see,
(10:00):
especially with the there's this effort to kind of conflate
BLM and that machinery with the Palestinian cause, there's been
a lot of that. You know, you've seen people and
there's a little less now of the you know, trans
rights for Palestine, because I think that people have started
to realize that the mockery is too obvious there with
(10:20):
you definitely don't want to be a trans person in Gaza.
That would not be a Hamas would not take well
to that. Yes, But but the race issue here is
so the left. It basically the left is so obsessed
with race that it almost can't you know, it's like
when everything when all you have is a hammer, you know,
(10:41):
everything looks like a nail. They can't view this outside
of a racial lens that is entirely inapplicable and at
best distorted when applied to this conflict. This isn't just
you know, white people, brown people and oppressor or un oppressed,
and that's not reality.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
No, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And it is a failure of and I know you
talked about this yesterday, it is a failure of American
society that we have, to a large degree with kids
lost the ability.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
To distinguish between good and evil.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I think a big part of that is because
most of what kids experience in America is not in
the prism of good versus evil, Because most things that
happen in America are pretty good right to your point,
you can have basically any sexual issue attraction in America
(11:34):
and have pretty good for you, right. And so I
think so many people have lost concept of what the
rest of the world is like, that they have bought
into this idea that America is evil and as a result,
they aren't able to see and distinguish between good and
evil in the real world. And that is incredibly troubling.
(11:55):
And we talked about this for a while. When this
initial attack on October seventh happen, you will get the
numbers for people under the age of thirty five, they're
basically fifty to fifty on who's that faultier, Israel or Amas,
And if you're over sixty five, it's a ninety five.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
To five issue.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Why do older people have such greater sense of moral clarity,
right and wrong, good and evil in this country than
young people. I think it's because we failed a young
generation of Americans in creating this artificial dynamic which you're discussing,
which is white equals bad, brown equals good, and in
that rubric has to be applied no matter what.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
In every single storyline.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, if you look at the rise in the
usage in the media, and there have been studies on this,
so this is something that's just a data driven, a
data driven reality. The rise in the use of not
just racism, but white supremacy and white supremacists, and all
of a sudden in the last ten ten or so years,
America has become obsessed with anti racism, anti whiteness, all
(12:57):
these different white supremacy, these different concepts, and that has
had real effect, I think, particularly on the on the
younger generation. I think on I think people who are
under the age of thirty, when they think about politics,
they're first the first thing they go to is, well,
what are the skin colors of the people involved? Or
you don't to think about a conflict, what are the
skin colors of the people involved? And that's how they
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that is their fundamental framework for how you deal when
it comes to police, when it comes to you know,
law enforcement issues in general, when it comes to economics
in society, and certainly when it comes to armed conflict.
They take this approach of like, well, you know, what
are the historical injustices and what are the races of
the people involved? And we see that. I mean you
saw yesterday, I know you were busy with the with
(13:39):
the Fox stuff that you were tuning in and out sometimes.
And we talked about this thing on TikTok of people
saying JN. Loaden had a point. Yeah, I just if
you think Ben Laden had a point in his letter
to America, bin Laden would have free license to kill
any number of Americans in any way for any length
of time because he's upset because there's some things that
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bother him. That's it. I mean, there's there's no limitation,
there's no laws of war, there's no ethics, there's no morality.
It's I don't like what America is doing in these places,
so I can kill everybody. And people went along with this.
Oh and by the way, I asked, you know, Bidlan's
opinion on like gays and minorities. I don't think the
left would like them if they really knew them. And
women and women.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, just the general collapse, I will say I find
it to be clarifying and important, and it has been
illuminating to me and I know to many of you,
to see exactly how broken many of our institutions and
our groups are.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I mean, imagine for a second, if there was a
major if there was a major trending, and it was,
you know, all over going viral that there were people saying,
you know, Timothy McVeigh, You know, I think that guy
had some really interesting thoughts, and I think we should
go back and like look at his manifesto. I mean,
the country the media people be like uniformly horrified, right,
(15:05):
and yet yesterday it was that Bin Lauden, I mean
Laden had some interesting ideas. This is this is how
far the brain rot has gone to the cerebral cortex
of the left.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Think about this book. What if Dylan Roof had the
Charleston shooter who walked into and killed all the black
people in the church in Charleston, What if he had
published a manifesto and it was trending on TikTok and
it was like, hey, you know what, Dylan Roof had
some really good points to make. I mean again, they
would immediately condemn it because it is a white person
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who is evil.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But when there is someone who.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is not white that is engaged in completely evil acts,
they lack the ability.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
To acknowledge and and condemn it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
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Learn and last Weekdays with Klay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Welcome back team. As you know, Chi Jinping showed up
in San Francisco, so they cleaned up that city, because
you know, when the world's biggest communist arrives, the lesser
communists have to make things look nice. But this was interesting,
Joe Biden, this is cut nineteen. I want you to
hear Biden says. We'll probably talk about it more in
just a moment, play it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I want to talk about Governor Newsom. I want to
thank him. He's been one hell of a governor man.
Matter of fact, he could do what he could have
a job I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
He could have the job I'm looking for. Obviously a
reference to the president, but we think he means in
twenty eight, right right.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I thought hope it would be super self aware of
Biden if he were making a joke about twenty four.
Does Biden seem super self aware to you, Buck? He
doesn't like. The whole thing was a bit strange. The
Gavin Newsome Joe Biden. We need to talk about the
Gavin Newsom Joe Biden relationship. Like something is going on
here that just doesn't add up. And we'll take some
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We were just playing
for you. Biden joking ish and saying that maybe Gavin
Newsom could end up being the president of the United
States one day job that he wants. Now, maybe if
you're being charitable to Biden, you can say, Okay, that's
a reference to Newsom as potentially being a candidate in
(19:25):
twenty eight. But if that were the case, it's kind
of disrespectable as vice president, right because then he's like, Hey,
the person who I didn't pick to be my vice
president is actually way better than my vice president, and
like that's.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
A disrespect though that Joe himself had to accept, if
you recall vice president for eight years, and then the
party was like it's Hillary.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, And not only the party, I mean his boss.
Joe Biden, who knew I mean Barack Obama, who knew
Joe Biden better than anybody, said you're not up for
the job. And it's always worth remembering Biden didn't didn't
get endorsed by Obama until after he'd already gotten the nomination.
That's a pretty big kick in the teeth, right, I mean,
(20:10):
if you know somebody so well, Barack Obama said, yeah,
I'm not going to get involved in the twenty twenty
presidential primary. I think because he probably knew that Joe
Biden wasn't up to the job. He certainly was aware
of everything surrounding Hunter and why that was going to
be potentially calamitous in nature eventually. But the more I
(20:30):
think about it, and I was at the Patriot Awards,
let me say it was fabulous. They honored the Nashville
police officers who killed the transhooter. We still need the manifesto,
trust me, I know I live here, but there were
thousands of people out there, a lot of our listeners.
It was a really cool experience. But everybody was talking
about Biden and it was all like, you know, you're
(20:52):
standing around, you're having a beer, like there's no way
he's going to be able to do this right. And
to me, buck watching everything that's happened with Chairman Z
coming to California and everything getting cleaned up, Biden still
can't get off the stage. He doesn't really make sense
on a day to day basis with anything when the
(21:12):
remotely gets off the prompter, even though he can barely
read the prompter. Something's going on, and I just I know,
I thought, and look, you can go back and read
the transcripts of this show. You can go back and
listen to him. I thought that he would announce that
he's not running and they would have a real primary.
But I'm more and more convinced Buck that at the
Democrat convention, they're going to pull the They're going to
(21:35):
pull up you.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And Uncle Bill, You and Bill O'Reilly. Bill has been
saying this since last since last summer. You guys are
extending this one out to the very end. You're well,
eleventh hour.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I have to because I said that he would have
to announce by the end of this year that he
was not going to run in twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
There is now. I mean, you and I can sit
here and say that there is not a way for
Democrats to have a primary and get people on ballots
and have a serious election based on the way the
state laws are written and everything else as of now,
like it's we've the deadline has passed. So the only
way that there are really two options now Biden steps
(22:15):
down and Kamala takes over, which I've always said would
be a possibility. That's their total fallback plan. You're saying
the the real break the glass plan is floor fight
Democrat convention consensus candidate, and they just rally behind that individual.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
My reasons why call, by the way, it is a
bold call. The reason why I didn't buy this before
was I thought that they would have a real difficulty
if Biden announces he's not going to run of elevating
Kamala Harris, because how do you not in an identity
politics dominated Democrat party put the black woman who's the
(22:57):
vice president into that all without it being sexist and racist.
And my real thought, and this will be an incredible call.
This will be like Babe Ruth calling eight consecutive home
runs here. I think the way they get away with
it buck is I still Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Oh my god, you're going with the Michelle Obama p one.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
The more the more I think about it, Then they
get a black woman in and it's like Kamala Harris
can't be like it's racist and sexist now and Michelle
Obama gets to play the I didn't want to do this,
but I'm running against Donald Trump. The soul of our
nation is at stake, and somebody has to stop Trump,
(23:40):
and I'm willing to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
What you're what you're talking about is a better screenplay.
But it's just gonna be Biden, everybody, And I know
it's just gonna be Biden. And if you look at
the latest, I'm not Look, we had Kim Reynolds on yesterday,
who is one of the most important endorsements.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
How was she, by the way, were you impressed with
her advocacy for the say at this she did a
good job. Yeah, No, she's she's she's excellent, very very
doing very well as governor in Iowa. And you know,
I just we had her aunch governor of Iowa. She's
endorsed Fronds Santis Iowa Coxes are coming up and and
I just, you know, let her make her case both
on on border issues as well as on she thinks
(24:17):
why she thinks Ron is the best. It's so funny
at some people are like, why are you letting her
just make her case. It's like we had Sarah Huckabee
Sanders on the day before to make her case.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
She's endorsed Trump. We're just letting people who are important
voices in the party have, you know, access to this platform.
And with that, and I'm just with that in mind.
The latest New Hampshire GOP primary polling that we get
this is a Monmouth poll. Okay, it's the real polling agency,
not like some click poll online.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
That no one can have.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Right. Trump is at forty six percent, Haley is at
eighteen percent, Christy is at eleven percent, Ramaswami at eight,
DeSantis at seven. If this is real and he's gonna
come in fifth, in fifth in New Hampshire, I'm not
even sure Iowa was enough to change to change the story.
(25:07):
That's all. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, but
that's Those are not the numbers the DeSantis team wants
to see in New Hampshire. Right now, I thank Chris
Christie at eleven percent. Eleven percent in this.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Point, I actually on that pole. This is going to
be intriguing in New Hampshire. In particular, Biden's not on
the ballot. Remember, so they have the whatever that guy's
name is, you know, Ryan Filippe or whoever he is
that's running was his Dean film.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Look, that's an actor who was in cruel intentions.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I know it was a talent.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
That was a good movie.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Cruel intentions back in the day, Sarah Michelle Geller. Uh,
can't remember who else was in it, but I think
she was in it. And Ryan Felipe, by the way,
married Reese Witherspoon, if you remember that, they had several kids.
And Reese Witherspoon's now a billionaire, so maybe bad move
by him to get divorced from her.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But the if you look at New Hampshire.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Because there isn't going to really be Biden on the ballot,
Democrats are the ones that are supporting Chris Christy and
to a large extent Nicki Haley. So again the deep
dive on that Monmuth poll that you're referencing there. Remember
they I believe I'm correcting this. In New Hampshire, they
have day of primary voting, so you can decide whether
(26:19):
you're going to vote in the Republican primary or the
Democrat primary. And I know Russian past has talked about
project chaos, where like operating go out, yeah, Operation chaos
and vote on the opposite side. I wonder to what
extent without Biden on the ballot, those Democrat and independent
voters in New Hampshire could really swing what the outcomes.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
But see here Here's why this this is a little
you know, this starts to get a little more complicated.
I think when you're extrapolating from the data, Niki, do
you see the nik Nikki Haley according to the polls
right now. So what you're saying is almost like the
Democrats are going to push for some of these candidates
in New Hampshire. You'd think they'd be doing that to
try to help a weaker candidate and make sure that
(27:02):
for example, Ron DeSantis, who has been really a big
fear of Democrats, or at least was a big fear
of Democrats, will be will essentially fade. Right, Yeah, Nicki Haley.
Right now, when all the polling is absolutely destroying Joe Biden,
It's like she's like winning by crazy numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Now the question on that, and you're right, and you
look at those numbers and I mean she's up fourteen
points in some swing states. I mean, I mean, it's
truly extraordinary. What you wonder on that is how much
of that is because a lot of people don't know
Nicki Haley? Right There hasn't been hardly any money spent
attacking her and trying to define her. But this is
(27:40):
it for the Remember we took calls earlier this week.
This is the Nicky Haley argument. It is that because
she's in her fifties and she's a mom, and she
seems pretty, you know, it's hard to be like, Nicky
Haley is going to show up at your book at
your book at your party.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah. Yeah. She gets more heat from the Republican base
than she does from Democrats by far. Yes. Now is
that something to view as an advantage in the general
or is that something to be distrusted. I think a
lot of people would argue on that point.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I think Nicky Haley on the abortion issue would bring
in a ton of suburban mom voters. Which is why,
even if Nicki Haley didn't win, I think Trump would
have to look at her seriously as a VP if
he were the nominee, because I really do think it's
hard to argue that Nicki Haley is. You know, for
(28:37):
all the suburban wine drinking moms in their book groups
sitting around discussing whatever the latest novel is, whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
The latest Price Witherspoon movie is. It's always about some
girl who has a big important job in the city,
some lady, and then she goes out to the country
with a little town where she was born around Thanksgiving
and she finds this rustically handsome man.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I'm married now, so I have to watch these things.
Oh I've seen, trust me a decent number of these
over the years. I also have a deep knowledge of
the Real Housewives of Orange County and Beverly Hills for
anybody out there that needs strong takes on those, thanks
to being married for the last twenty years. But you know,
it's hard to argue that she is going to represent
(29:18):
the Republican shock troops that are going to show up
on the door and make sure that if somebody's pregnant
they have a baby. That what's what's the movie that
everybody likes to dress up like, or the television show
or a Handmaid's Tale? The Handmaid's Tale, Like they're going
to try to turn Trump and all these men into
a Handmaid's Tale. It doesn't work for Nicky Haley. So
now the question is if the Democrats turn their full
(29:42):
on at tax scale onto Nicky Haley, would a lot
of her electability crumble because she hasn't been defined that well,
remember what they did to Mitt Romney. I'll just point
out who is the most blandly inoffensive.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You know, Republican. He was a dog abusing high school
bully who fired people so that they could have no
health insurance while their wives had cancer. That was when
they turned mit Romney and he had binders of women.
He was sexist, he was misogynistic like and he is
ned Flanders, right, I mean he is.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
With a big bank account yep, yeah, sure yeah. And
so what would they do to Nicki Haley? I think
that's a fair question. The flip side is, I do
think she would appeal to a lot of suburban women.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Let's take some of these calls. What do you guys
think about these new Hampshire numbers? Do you think it
means anything or is it just a blip on the radar?
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Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yesterday Clay was out and we had some it was
breaking news, but I couldn't confirm it in the last
few minutes of the show. But it has been confirmed
since then that Joe Bid we want to talk about
this is not going to be charged, which was the
most obvious thing in the world. But I think it's
worth discussing anyway how this all goes because he won't
be charged for classified document stuff. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, as
(32:13):
we know, is facing and he was president. Joe Biden
was vice president during this. There's all these things that
come into play, but Biden will not be charged. We're
talking about that a little bit, plus a little more
legal issues perhaps on the horizon for Hunter Biden, which
we shall discuss. But we said we won't to take
your calls. Let's do it. We have Jeff and Florida.
(32:33):
What's going on? Jeff? Oh, Jeff is gone. Sorry. Diane
in Virginia, what's up, Diane?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Hey there.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I think that we all forget that Barack Obama told
us exactly what he was going to do. He was
going to fundamentally change America, and it didn't start with him.
It started with the weather underground and they were supporting him.
He was their spokesperson. He did it, He's done it.
It didn't start with him just you know, getting president.
It started in the universities with those professors. And even
(33:06):
now his advisors are in Joe Biden's camp. And it's
not ending. It's not gonna end. And if you want
to know who's going to be the next Democratic president,
ask Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
That's why I say it's gonna be That's why I
said it's gonna be Michelle, and I think it gets
them over the black woman hump that otherwise is going
to be difficult at the convention.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I think that's why I thought Biden would step down
because then it allowed a primary, uh, and otherwise I
think it's gonna be hard to pick a white guy
and not take the black female vice president.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I gotta tell you also, thank you Dian for calling in.
I Gavin Newsom, who gets talked about so much, and
we played that SoundBite of Biden saying, you know, he
could even have my job, which whatever, It's like, what
job is that, Joe, because clearly you're not really the president.
Gavin Newsom not only would have to leap over in
a sense, the first black female vice president if he
(34:00):
were to be the nominee. I don't think. I'm not
sure that Gavin Newsom has the strength in the black community,
you know, Democrat sort of base that he would need
to win people forget that Joe Biden does. Joe Biden
has that and has had that, and Michelle Obama would
certainly have it well. Michelle Obama would certainly have it right.
But that's what I'm saying. That's why Gavin Newsom I
(34:21):
don't think is necessarily this. I don't think Gavin Newsom
would be a candidate who would necessarily do any better
than Joe Biden would. I don't. I don't buy that.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Well.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I think they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
That's why I think they almost need to break the
glass and come up within outside of the box candidate
like Michelle Obama, because I don't buy JB. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer,
Gavin Newsom, certainly not Kamala Harris. These people are not
necessarily better than Joe Biden would be.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I hear you, man, I mean, maybe you're right, or
maybe it's just gonna be Biden. I'm right, and I'm
gonna make sure they're like shaving those white truffles. It's
like one hundred dollars for every movement of the hand.
I don't think I've ever.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Even bought truffles. This is this is gonna turn into
the most expensive meal of my life.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the thing where
they send over the son Elia and I would be like,
excuse me, sir, I'd like your finest bottle of wine
on mister Travis's account. Let's get to uh, where are
we having, Oh, Peter in Arizona? What's up, Peter?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah, guys thinks. First off, go cowboys and deck to
the future. Look, my brother and I talk a lot,
and we cannot understand, for the life of us, why
can't the left process what really is going over in
Hamas Israel, the Palestinian conflict. And as we talked about
(35:35):
it more and more we go, you know what, so
and you and Buck you pretty much swung into it.
The left thieves brown and the Palestinians. Yeah, and they
see the stews as white, and they can't see facts,
they can't see truth, they can't decipher what's.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Really going on.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Other other than.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
The oppressors, the colonizers, the white and you know, they're
the ones that are there at fault and it's not
You've got to be kidding me. And they cannot process this.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Out correctly, Well they can't. They they have to thank
you for calling in. We have been talking about this
and they can't process the truth. So they have to
live in this unreality that it is a white oppression
of brown people conflict. Yes, and it's far more it
is not that at its core, and it's also far
more complex on both sides than that.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
And this also ties in with what we've seen happen
since the rise of BLM, which is the lie that
black people are being hunted and targeted and murdered by
police at rates that are completely outside of the bounds
for any other race.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And again the data.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Seventy five percent of people shot by police are white,
Asian or Hispanic.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That blows people's minds.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You know what's also interesting, if you're an Arab American
and you apply to college or university, you don't get
affirmative action. You're not considered a depressed minority, but only
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