September 19, 2024 • 36 mins
Slew of new polls shows very tight race, but Trump in better position than Trump at this point in 2016 or 2020. Trump-Vance have done over 70 media interviews since Harris entered the race, Harris-Walz has done 7. Trump does one of his best media appearances as panelist on Gutfeld. Teamsters decline to endorse anyone, which is a win for Trump, big blow to Harris. Stalinist Pelosi says there was an open primary and Harris won. Zoo in China caught painting dogs to look like Pandas. VIP emails.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. We're about to do
a deep dive into all of the data in this election.
It is coming in fast and furious, different states, different
polling agencies, lots of numbers. Tell them the story here
(00:23):
and we'll break this down for you. There's some very
good news, I would say overall for Trump, I think
it's trending in his direction. But if you look at this,
if you step back, the thirty thousand foot view of
this whole thing is it's going to be tight overall.
By the numbers, it's going to be a small difference
(00:44):
that determines most of these states that are in contention,
and then nationwide overall, I think it's going to be
a Look, it's going to be a close election. We've
always thought that would be the case, just because of
how divided the country is, and they've now got effectively
a generic Democrat, if you will, on the ballot. So
(01:06):
we'll get into all of that. Also, let you know
we've got the RNC chairman or co chairman, Michael Wattley
joining a second hour, asking him again ground game fraud,
prevention poll monitoring all of the stuff, the nuts and bolts,
the machinery of the election. We want to know what's
(01:26):
going on. Just like many of you, you keep asking
us what about this?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Are are they prepared for the cheat or are they
ready to contest things in court? Let's ask the people
running the Republican machinery, including obviously the co chairman here,
so we'll talk to him about that. Two point thirty
Matt Walsh of The Daily Wire will be with us
his movie am I Racist Play? You went to the premiere.
(01:52):
I watched it with my wife Carrie. Some very very
funny stuff. It's very good, very funny, well done. You
agreed right that it was pretty up. Oh yeah, it was.
It was very very fun I mean, I don't want
to spell. We'll get into it with Matt. We'll get
in with Matt. Very entertaining stuff. And the whole like
DEI grift is just it's just nauseating when you really see,
(02:14):
how you know, it's like it's like a religion for
people that need to put aside the Xenx prescription and
find like actual God. I mean, the whole DEI thing
is insane. Anyway, let's get into what have we got
here the first Okay, Clay, we got a lot. All
the roads lead to Pennsylvania. I think that assessment that
(02:37):
you have, I share it, that's very much true. Let's start.
You want to start with this Washington Post pole and
get into where we Let's do it two way Pennsylvania
Post or Pennsylvania poll by Washington Post Harris Trump forty eight,
forty eight. Okay, so it is a tie right now
in Pennsylvania according to this Washington Post pole full Field
(02:57):
Harris forty eight, Trump forty seven Stein Jill Stein on
the ballot there at one percent. And then in the
Senate this was interesting. I have never seen a tie
between Casey and McCormick before, and Casey Bob Casey the
incumbent and Republican Dave McCormick, who we've had on the
(03:17):
show many times, they are tied. I think, Clay, you
have to look at this. If you're, first of if
you're the McCormick camp, very encouraging, yes. And if you're
the Trump camp, if you execute, you're gonna win. If
you followed through the game plan and stay focused, you're
gonna win. That's how I would see it. Yeah, there
are a bunch of things out there. By the way,
(03:39):
dead heat in the national poll from the New York Times.
Let me hit a bunch of these. There were a
deluge of poles out there that pop today and a
lot of them are telling really kind of fascinating stories.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Let me hit you with this.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Buck in New York, Kamala Harris thirteen point lead. Trump
just had a big rally in New York yesterday, did Gutfeld,
which I hope some of you watched. I thought Trump
was phenomenal on Gutfeld. We may talk about that a
little bit in New York in particular, our WR listeners
probably feeled this out in Nassau and Suffolk Counties on
(04:16):
Long Island, huge turnout for Trump. Harris is leading by
thirteen in the Siena pole there. Why does that matter?
Biden won by twenty three in twenty twenty, so that
would mean Trump has just, based on this pole, increased
his support by ten points. Something else that's interesting here
(04:37):
because this could play out nationally in a significant way.
According to the Siena poll, Trump leads among Jewish voters
fifty four to forty four. That is a double digit
lead among Jewish voters in the state of New York.
Largest Jewish population in the country is in New York,
(04:57):
and that would be a size, I believe shift for
Trump to win the Jewish vote. Also, as I kind
of jokingly tweeted, boy America's Hitler's doing really well with
Jewish voters in New York. Maybe the whole Hitler comparison
doesn't make a lot of sense there a couple of
other things. You mentioned the Washington Post pole dead even
(05:23):
in the New York Times, but in the swing states,
listen to these Buck, Trump, this is Emerson. Trump up
three in Georgia, Trump up one in Wisconsin, Trump up
one in Pennsylvania. Trump up one in Arizona, Trump down
two in Michigan, dead tie in Nevada. Harris, they have
(05:45):
up one in North Carolina. That is the Emerson College pole.
My point on this, Buck, it's going to be a
white knuckler. There are lots of close places out there,
But I think that the impact of debate is virtually nonexistent,
and now we're just too how many voters can each
(06:05):
party turnout? Right, We're going to turnout phase of the race.
It's going to be close in seven states and let's
get buckled up and start to get the votes in. Yeah, Harris,
it looks like is lost about fifty percent of the
margin in New York that Biden won by in twenty twenty.
Just to that's ten points would be if she only
(06:26):
wins by thirteen in New York, Buck, that is a
really bad sign for her nationwide, because she would have
lost ten points of the lead, but Biden won by
twenty three. That really kind of is a if that
were to happen, an interesting snapshot. Yes, well, it also
has effect on congressional races in New York State, which
are very important for keeping the Republicans to control the House. Remember,
(06:52):
you don't just want a Trump victory in this presidential election.
You want a majority for Republicans in the Senate and
in the House if you have unified government. Remember, Trump's
only got four years left. If he wins, he's going
to have to go He's going to have to come
right out of the gates and push a legislative agenda
with everything that he's got from the very beginning, and
(07:14):
he'll have you know, maybe a year before it just
all turns into you know, fighting over the midterms. And
everyone's scrambling for power and that whole mess. So it's
very important he has a Senate and House control behind
him and on the Republican side. And I think that
you only have Republicans to control the House now because
of some overperformance by the GOP in California New York respectively,
(07:37):
specifically in Long Island, Lovely Place, Love Long Island. And
I think you can say that while leez Elden wasn't
able to win the governorship, he was a strong enough
kind of wind at the backs of other candidates in
New York that he helped push them Republicans over the
finish line for a razor thin majority of the House.
We don't talk about the House battle very much. That's
(08:00):
going to be very that's gonna be very much in
contention this time around. So it's not like we have
a big lead that we can afford to lose a
lot of seats and still maintain a majority in New York.
If you have the numbers that we're seeing right now
for Harris, that would be an indicator of some very
strong finishes for other Republicans who will be on the
ballot there. I think Clay that if you're the Trump team,
(08:24):
you have to view this and say this is going
pretty well. It's better than it has ever been for
Trump at this phase. So you know, he won one,
he lost one. And this is also where I think
you can point out this was an amazing stat It's
all over online right now. It has been almost sixty days.
It's fifty nine days, okay, almost two months since Harris
(08:46):
was the nominee. Effectively, right, the de facto nominee Trump
advance have done over seventy seventy media hits, you know, interviews, press,
press sit downs. Harris and Walls together have done seven.
I mean, we're not just saying that the strategy has
hide the candidate from the media. The strategy has hied
(09:09):
the candidate from the media. It's at the point now, Clay,
where Morning Joe has to admit that that's what they're
doing and try to explain how that's a good thing
and not a dishonest thing. Right, this whole thing is
supposed to be pulling the wool over the eyes of
the American voter and hoping that they can't see through
and figure out what's going on here, no doubt, And
(09:30):
those numbers are staggering, and you can imagine if they
were reversed how much whaling there would be. And look,
the lesson they took from twenty twenty was we can
have a mediocre candidate and we can hide him from
the press, and we can try to make this race
entirely about Donald Trump. And a lot of people out
there listening to us right now are not able to
(09:53):
name a single thing they like about what Kamala has
done during her tenure as vice president, but they are
going to vot vote for her because they have Trump
Trump derangement syndrome, because they have been driven bonkers and
they're emotionally responding and they're just not willing to vote
for Trump. And that's not because of anything Kamala is done.
(10:14):
So they're trying to make it like they did in
twenty twenty. Difference is you had COVID in twenty twenty
and Trump was the incumbent. I think such an effective
attack for Trump is, if you've got all these great ideas,
why haven't you implemented them already? You've been in power
for three and a half years. And secondly, and this
is a question that I would encourage many of you
(10:34):
to be asking is you are sitting around tables, maybe
you're with persuadable people in your lives, friends, family, Name
one thing Kamala is done that you think is a
really good job such that she deserves a promotion. I
don't think there's one thing people can point to, Buck,
I legitimately don't. We had that guy call in from
(10:54):
Omaha yesterday. I open phone lines eight hundred and two
eighty two to two. Is there anyone listening to us
right now who is voting for Kamala not against Trump?
I know there are lots of people that are voting
against Trump. What has Kamala done that you believe she
is deserving of a promotion. Is there a single person
(11:18):
out there listening to us right now that can call
in and say something that Kamala did well such that
you believe she deserves a promotion. Again, I think a
lot of Kamala voters are just anti Trump people. They
would show up and vote against Trump no matter who
he was running against. But the real question here is
she's the incumbent. What has she done to prove that
she deserves a promotion. I'll tell you this, Clay, I
(11:40):
think that the loyalty of the deranged Democrat party these
days is so strong to the brand that if there
were a way for them to legally vote for a placeholder,
and I mean this, if you could get Democrats so
that they could have them a ballot Democrat will tell
(12:00):
you later ninety ninety plus percent of Democrats would say, sure,
you guys, let us know later on. As long as
it's a Democrat, we don't care, which also means you
could replace the Democrat with anybody. In fact, the whole
move to Kamala from Biden is really just an indicator of, oh, yeah,
we think we can just have a Democrat run no
real campaign and be a particularly weak Democrat and shove
(12:23):
her boss in essence the president out of office or
you know, out of the spotlight, out of reelection, and
we can still win an election. You know what I'm saying,
It's yeah, they, the people who are voting for Kamala,
would vote for a fill in the blank Democrat. And
I don't mean that as hyperba I'm pulling a Biden.
It's not hyperbole. It's not a joke.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Jokes, no jokes.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean that, seriously, they would do it. They would say, sure,
tell me who the Democrat is in January. As long
as it's a Democrat and not Trump, I think that's
one hundred percent accurate. We'll take some of your calls.
Maybe there's a diehard Kamala supporter out there in this
audience of millions going to be it's gonna be nice.
Just when you call in Kamala supporter, tell them that,
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As we
are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. A
lot of poll data like we said, pouring in today,
(15:01):
and all of it basically gives the same storyline, which is,
if you're in Nevada, if you're in Arizona, you're in
North Carolina, if you're in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin,
it's going to be super tight. And boy, oh boy,
are we going to have a lot to pay attention
(15:23):
to when election night arrives. But I think what is
becoming clear, and we just talked about this quite a bit, Buck,
I don't think that there has been some incredible alteration
of the trajectory of the race based on the debate
that happened last week.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
There.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
If they're to the extent that there is any sort
of debate impact on the polls, it's going to fade
really really fast. I mentioned, and I really do encourage
you to do this. Trump was on Gutfeld last night.
I don't know if you happened to see it, Buck,
I had an advertiser dinner with our friends that price
picks last night. I got home, my wife had Fox
(16:04):
News on and the Gutfeld Show was just about to
start when I got home, and Trump was phenomenal on it.
And for those of you out there that have never
watched Gutfeld show. It's the most watched. What I would
say is kind of comedy focused show out there. Bigger
than Kimmel, Bigger than than I came, even Colebert, Bigger
(16:26):
than it's late it's a late night show right now,
I think, Yeah, I think it's late night the same way.
We don't have to give some kind of special privilege
to the you know, the like the the nepotism, if
you will, of these other shows that get inherited, Like
Greg built his own show. It's super successful. It's on
against them and he kicks their butt. Yeah, ABC, NBC,
and CBS, the traditional homes of late night television all
(16:48):
lose to Gutfeld. And what I loved about it Buck,
you've done this show before. There's just a panel basically
a four everybody's in comfortable chairs, and they had Trump
as one of the panels. And you don't know, I've
done the show quite a few times. You don't really
know what the topics are, the conversation is going to be,
(17:08):
how it's going to go. It's all, to a large extent, unscripted,
and he was phenomenal. It's one of the best media
events that I have seen Trump do in some time,
and again I would encourage you if you didn't see
it and you want a good laugh, but also just
the sense of man. Trump is just a pretty good dude.
(17:30):
I think you will get it from that performance last night.
It's one of the best media performances I've seen from him,
and Trump's had a lot. I mean, I know this
is just a little aside, but Clay and I both
spent a fair amount of time with President Trump. I
met him for the first time in person when I
was thirteen years old, so I got back with him
quite a long time, and he's just like a fun
guy to talk to. A lot of politicians, not so much.
(17:52):
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All right, welcome back in. It is day to day here.
All these polls come flying in, giving us a census
(18:58):
to what's happening right now. Remember it's not election day,
so polls or just a snapshot in time of sentiment.
They could change tomorrow, but they give us a sense
of momentum. They give us a sense as to how
close this is going to be, where it's going to
be close. I do think Trump is looking good in
Wisconsin at this point, and maybe enough that he'll help
(19:21):
pull our friend mister Hovedy across the line in the
great state of Wisconsin. Our wisn fam up there on Wisconsin.
You are an army out there. We appreciate so much
all of you listening in the Milwaukee area, and you
can go out and do your best to get friends
and family to the polls in a state like Wisconsin.
You know, you don't need that many people to get
(19:42):
really engaged to be able to see how it affects
the numbers. So just remember that. You know, I grew
up in New York City where I was like, I'm
going to vote Republican because that's my civic duty to vote.
And then I would just get crushed. You know, it's
like eighty twenty. You just get crushed here in the ear.
Although Juliani did win the mayor when I was but
I was too young to vote for that right. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I wasn't a part of the Giuliani miracle because I
was twelve or something. But anyway, this is it's good
for Trump. That's the bottom line. And there's something else
I just wanted to note. First of all, the fact
that they've only done seven interviews with Kamala and Walls
is in a sense, it's really all you have to
know because it's such clear indication of what a disaster
(20:29):
she really is as a candidate. And also I think
that people's sense of the debate. There's some polling that
shows some marginal you know, victory for Kamala and debate.
I really just think she did a little better than
people thought. But she memorized lines. It wasn't like Kamala
impressed us with her knowledge and her you know, ability
to handle things on the fly. She memorized lines and
(20:49):
she keeps saying those lines. So the longer she goes,
the more it's like, wait a second. So you're like
an actor who, unless he's spewing Shakespeare, doesn't sound very
smart because you got nothing to say. You know, there's
this is what people have always said about de Niro.
By the way, without a script, he's as dumb as
a fence post. You ever heard that before, You know
what I mean? That doesn't surprise me because memorizing lines
(21:12):
or reading, frankly, for people who don't know how teleprompter
or television works, you're basically an actor if you're not
on the fly reacting to what people say, and you
got an ear piece in so people in the production
room can tell you questions to ask or give you
data points or whatever else. I mean, you can tell
(21:33):
pretty quickly who is good on their feet and who's not.
And that's why I thought the Trump Gutfeld situation was
so great. Kamala Harris would never do that. She would
never do an unscripted one of four panel discussion show.
That's what I thought was so great about the Gutfeld
setup was they didn't treat Trump any differently than they
would have you or me if we were a panelist
(21:56):
on the show. They had cat tempt, they had tyrists
who were always there. Our friend Emily Campagno was there.
And then Gutfeld hosted it and Trump was the fourth panelist,
and he just sat in the chair like hung out,
like would ordinarily have happened on the show, and he
fit in fantastically well. He gave Gutfeld a lot of
grief for not being enough of a Trump supporter early
(22:17):
on and saying a lot of awful things about him,
And I actually thought there are a bunch of quotes
from there that I thought were great, But the gut
Felt asked him about it, and he said, if I
only was allied with people who said nice things about
me all the time. I would have no like, no
political allies, because everybody has ripped me at some point.
And I think that's one thing we've talked about it
(22:38):
on this show. Trump doesn't get enough credit for being
totally willing to give up on any sort of an antipathy,
grudge or anything else. The minute somebody's like, you know what,
he's doing a pretty good job, he forgets all the
negative that was said. Hey, there's always room on the
train if you'll get on the train. There's room on
(22:59):
the train, but you have to get on the Trump train. Absolutely.
But Jadie Vance called him America's Hitler, and now he's running.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
With him as VP.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean, that's a perfect example of this is also
why not not to go back here. But when people
were very upset in the primary, particularly at some of
the Ronda Santis fans out there, and they're like, you're
never gonna be allowed back, I was like, no, no,
they're gonna be allowed back in the Republican ten. It's okay,
Like it was a rough primary, but it's okay. We
can all Nick endorsed him. I understand Dick Cheney and
(23:27):
Liz Cheney, which you could predict and all those people
like the Liz Cheney one's particularly funny buck because it
now is the case that she's so anti Trump that
she's willing to support the furthest left wing Democrat nominee
of all time. And all these people out there who
are running the Bulwark or the Lincoln Project, I guarantee
you if ron DeSantis were the nominee, and I think
(23:49):
DeSantis would have been the nominee if Trump were not,
they would be attacking DeSantis every bit as vociferously as
they have been attacking Trump. I have zero doubt. Because
that's also where their audience, in their mind is now.
They are there. They're Democrat mercenaries, is what they are.
They're mercenaries, and that they'll just take money to fight
for whichever side, and the money comes from the Democrats.
(24:10):
Right now, because you can't argue to me at least
that this is I mean, there's one former Republican or
former Conservative who always does the conservative case for and
it's become this this cliche, it's become this meme of
you know, the conservative case for abortion for all nine
months of a pregnancy, the conservative case for open borders,
(24:31):
and DEI programs. You're like, you're a leftist.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
You're not making it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
There's no conservative case. You're just a leftist. You just
hate Trump so much that you have switched teams. You
are Benedict Arnold. You have betrayed your team and you
now fight for the other team. I just wish they
were honest about it. But there's so much of that
because what they all the Republicans who go on MSNBC,
They're all Democrats who call themselves Republicans. It's such a sham.
(24:57):
It's it's absurd. I mean, you know, I think Joe
Scarborough's t tically an independent now, but you know, the
guy's a Democrat. How can you be an independent and
have nothing critical to say about Kamala Harris, who's the
worst Democrat candidate since Duccacus. I totally agree with all that,
and I also just think it's amazing to think about
the political trajectory we're on. That Dick Cheney, who in
(25:18):
the days of Fahrenheit nine to one, one right, nine
to eleven or whatever it was, the Michael Moore, Dick
Cheney was Satan. He was Darth Vader. He was the
great evil of the entire United States. Even up to
what was the movie that Will Ferrell's but he made
about the Imperial Presidency where Dick Cheney was the bad guy.
(25:42):
Do you know what I'm talking about? It was about
was advice. I think that's what it was. I think
it was called Weisa and it was the Welsh guy
kind of malugionisque. Actually, what's his name? The guy plays Batman.
He's a mallusion. I mean they spent Christian Bale play
in that movieh and that was like the Hollywood just
(26:05):
take down, like we're gonna crush Dick Cheney and all
these things. And now last week Kamala Harris is bragging
about Dick Cheney endorsing her. I just, I mean, the
world is so upside down. And we talked about this yesterday,
but we should follow up. The Teamsters decline to endorse
Kamala for the first time that they have not endorsed
(26:29):
a Democrat, I believe, going all the way back to.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Now their rank and file members are overwhelmingly voting Trump
based on the poll data they put out sixty forty.
But it feels like to me they should have endorsed Trump.
But they're trying to just basically say, well, we're not
going to make an endorsement, which is a win for Trump,
but the rank and file teamsters, primarily in the Midwest,
(26:56):
buck is a glaring sign of weakness for Kamala Harris
because they voted for Biden in twenty twenty one. Thing
that's going to be fun. Klay and I were just
discussing this in a commercial break there for a second.
I want you to hear this. Pelosi's out there making
this case that there wasn't that they didn't just annoint Kamala.
(27:17):
There was an open primary, she won, And this is
I truly, this is Soviet style rewriting of history. You know,
just so you know, in the Soviet Union, Stalin actually
had expert photo you know, refinishing or retouching people. Because
when they would liquidate people who were in photos with Stalin,
you know this clay, they would remove them, They would.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Remove them from the photos. Yeah, this is a real
exist them.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
They would erase you from the public record because obviously
there's no internet. So like, oh, you're in photos with Stalin,
you got executed. I got our movie from the photo.
Soviet Soviet mindset rewriting of history going on by Democrats
when it comes to Kamala Here's here's Pelosi saying, oh, yeah,
she won the primary.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
What you had reportedly said you wanted a sort of
an open primary. When if Joe Biden stepped down, did
you change your mind because you saw all the excitement
around Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
No, I didn't change my mind. We had an open
primary and she won it. Nobody else got in the
race because she was politically a student, and that was
the part. Let's show our talent. We have a great
bench of all these great people in the country, and
she just the president endorsed her. And that's a big
(28:36):
deal because Joe Biden's most consequential president of modern times.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Nancy Pelosi truly lives in an alternate universe. I mean,
I understand she's been able to acquire and wield power
effectively for the left into the tremendous detriment of the
United States for many years, but she is like her
mind is actually on some other reality. Clay, Kamala Harris
clearly didn't win a primary. I don't know what do
(29:03):
you even think she's saying? Joe Biden is the most consonant,
so Joe Biden's more consequential to a Democrat than Barack Obama. Really, Yeah,
she tried to argue, remember that he should be on
Mount Rushmore. Remember we played that audio like it was good.
I think that and favorite one of my favorite clips
from the DNC. Do you remember when they had the
(29:25):
video of Nancy Pelosi chanting we love Joe or whatever
it was, and like she was like dismissively doing it. She,
I think, to be fair, has been friends with Joe
Biden on some level. Again, political friends a lot of times,
bs like who knows whether they really like each other
or not, but they've been allies for forty years, and
(29:46):
it seems like she is desperate to try to repair
the rupture of their relationship such that she now is
going way over the top anytime she discusses Joe Biden's
political career. I also just I think it's worth no
clay if Kamala loses this election. Oh man, these so
(30:06):
many of these Democrats who were like, She's the greatest
candidate I've ever seen. She's amazing. They'll be like, oh,
I can't believe we got stuck with Kamala. She was terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
We all knew.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
They will all admit that they all knew she was terrible.
The level of dishonesty here is mind blowing. Also, think
about Kamala's future. She is either going to somehow get
elected president and be an awful president. But she'll get
elected president be the first woman. It'll be a big deal.
She'll echo throughout history sadly or buck they're gonna kick
(30:40):
her to the curb like Michael Decaccus. She'll end up
like the president of the University of California or something
like that. That's a great gig. She'll make a million
dollars a year to go to cocktail parties. What do
I get? I disagree, she won't have a huge political future,
but they'll take very good Kamala's going to be richer
than she currently is, and she's already rich by the way. Yeah,
but they're just gonna shunt her off to the side
(31:03):
and completely hide her. Or she's going to be famous
for hundreds of years like this is. I mean, think
about the twist here. If she wins, like as crazy
as it is, hundreds of years from now, she'll be
on I can't believe this is real, but all the
pictures of the presidents. She'll be the first woman ever elected.
Hundreds of years from now, long after we're all dead,
(31:24):
people will be talking about Kamala Harris and her historic
presidency or buck. Nobody is going to remember her name
at all, and they're gonna put her as, you know,
the president of some California university, whereas Trump's going to
be a historic figure for a long time because he
was a president. Regardless of what happens here, the swing
(31:45):
on potential outcomes for Kamala Harris's narrative right now is
off the charts wild. Yeah. I mean, does anyone remember
John Nance Garner? I mean, if FDR had gotten a
really bad cold, you might remember him. But you know
that was the bottle of warm spit, right he said,
the MVP. That's the only thing I know about. Yeah. Well, well, well,
(32:05):
like amateur presidential historian Clay remembers this guy, but like
no normal person out there is like throwing out John
Nance Garner's name. No, there's a ton I mean, she
will be she will be relegated to the dustbin of history,
or she will be famous for hundreds of years based
on what happens in about forty five days I'm impressed
you just pulled out the bucket. I gotta say a
(32:26):
little golf clap for you. There, bucket a warm spit
on the fly you just knew I you know, which
I think, by the way, was edited. I'm gonna make
myself even more of a history nerd. I think he
actually said it was a bucket of warm piss, but
you couldn't say the word piss back then, so they
changed it to spit.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So I think there's a dispute about which oney press.
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I don't watch TV news at all because it drives
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I might have to give Fox another try if they've
got icon eye candy like that. I mean, these are
(35:41):
these are really hysterical emails. Anyway, I appreciate all of
you reacting. Bill Malugin may come on the show potentially tomorrow.
I'll do my best to contain myself if you want
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(36:03):
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Speaker 2 (36:12):
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
We gotta laugh because God knows the next forty five
days are going to be stressful.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
We got to have some humor along the way.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Did we say, by the way, who the guests are today?
I think you did, Michael Wattley and Matt Walsh. One
of the battlegrounds is North Carolina. Buck Whattley was in
North Carolina, very involved in the race in twenty twenty.
We'll find out from him what he thinks about twenty
twenty four. And also, so many of you out there
are worried about the twenty twenty four election being rigged.
(36:43):
That's why we want to talk with Michael Wottley. If
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dive into those details with him.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Thanks for hanging with me.
Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. We're about to do
a deep dive into all of the data in this election.
It is coming in fast and furious, different states, different
polling agencies, lots of numbers. Tell them the story here
(00:23):
and we'll break this down for you. There's some very
good news, I would say overall for Trump, I think
it's trending in his direction. But if you look at this,
if you step back, the thirty thousand foot view of
this whole thing is it's going to be tight overall.
By the numbers, it's going to be a small difference
(00:44):
that determines most of these states that are in contention,
and then nationwide overall, I think it's going to be
a Look, it's going to be a close election. We've
always thought that would be the case, just because of
how divided the country is, and they've now got effectively
a generic Democrat, if you will, on the ballot. So
(01:06):
we'll get into all of that. Also, let you know
we've got the RNC chairman or co chairman, Michael Wattley
joining a second hour, asking him again ground game fraud,
prevention poll monitoring all of the stuff, the nuts and bolts,
the machinery of the election. We want to know what's
(01:26):
going on. Just like many of you, you keep asking
us what about this?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Are are they prepared for the cheat or are they
ready to contest things in court? Let's ask the people
running the Republican machinery, including obviously the co chairman here,
so we'll talk to him about that. Two point thirty
Matt Walsh of The Daily Wire will be with us
his movie am I Racist Play? You went to the premiere.
(01:52):
I watched it with my wife Carrie. Some very very
funny stuff. It's very good, very funny, well done. You
agreed right that it was pretty up. Oh yeah, it was.
It was very very fun I mean, I don't want
to spell. We'll get into it with Matt. We'll get
in with Matt. Very entertaining stuff. And the whole like
DEI grift is just it's just nauseating when you really see,
(02:14):
how you know, it's like it's like a religion for
people that need to put aside the Xenx prescription and
find like actual God. I mean, the whole DEI thing
is insane. Anyway, let's get into what have we got
here the first Okay, Clay, we got a lot. All
the roads lead to Pennsylvania. I think that assessment that
(02:37):
you have, I share it, that's very much true. Let's start.
You want to start with this Washington Post pole and
get into where we Let's do it two way Pennsylvania
Post or Pennsylvania poll by Washington Post Harris Trump forty eight,
forty eight. Okay, so it is a tie right now
in Pennsylvania according to this Washington Post pole full Field
(02:57):
Harris forty eight, Trump forty seven Stein Jill Stein on
the ballot there at one percent. And then in the
Senate this was interesting. I have never seen a tie
between Casey and McCormick before, and Casey Bob Casey the
incumbent and Republican Dave McCormick, who we've had on the
(03:17):
show many times, they are tied. I think, Clay, you
have to look at this. If you're, first of if
you're the McCormick camp, very encouraging, yes. And if you're
the Trump camp, if you execute, you're gonna win. If
you followed through the game plan and stay focused, you're
gonna win. That's how I would see it. Yeah, there
are a bunch of things out there. By the way,
(03:39):
dead heat in the national poll from the New York Times.
Let me hit a bunch of these. There were a
deluge of poles out there that pop today and a
lot of them are telling really kind of fascinating stories.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Let me hit you with this.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Buck in New York, Kamala Harris thirteen point lead. Trump
just had a big rally in New York yesterday, did Gutfeld,
which I hope some of you watched. I thought Trump
was phenomenal on Gutfeld. We may talk about that a
little bit in New York in particular, our WR listeners
probably feeled this out in Nassau and Suffolk Counties on
(04:16):
Long Island, huge turnout for Trump. Harris is leading by
thirteen in the Siena pole there. Why does that matter?
Biden won by twenty three in twenty twenty, so that
would mean Trump has just, based on this pole, increased
his support by ten points. Something else that's interesting here
(04:37):
because this could play out nationally in a significant way.
According to the Siena poll, Trump leads among Jewish voters
fifty four to forty four. That is a double digit
lead among Jewish voters in the state of New York.
Largest Jewish population in the country is in New York,
(04:57):
and that would be a size, I believe shift for
Trump to win the Jewish vote. Also, as I kind
of jokingly tweeted, boy America's Hitler's doing really well with
Jewish voters in New York. Maybe the whole Hitler comparison
doesn't make a lot of sense there a couple of
other things. You mentioned the Washington Post pole dead even
(05:23):
in the New York Times, but in the swing states,
listen to these Buck, Trump, this is Emerson. Trump up
three in Georgia, Trump up one in Wisconsin, Trump up
one in Pennsylvania. Trump up one in Arizona, Trump down
two in Michigan, dead tie in Nevada. Harris, they have
(05:45):
up one in North Carolina. That is the Emerson College pole.
My point on this, Buck, it's going to be a
white knuckler. There are lots of close places out there,
But I think that the impact of debate is virtually nonexistent,
and now we're just too how many voters can each
(06:05):
party turnout? Right, We're going to turnout phase of the race.
It's going to be close in seven states and let's
get buckled up and start to get the votes in. Yeah, Harris,
it looks like is lost about fifty percent of the
margin in New York that Biden won by in twenty twenty.
Just to that's ten points would be if she only
(06:26):
wins by thirteen in New York, Buck, that is a
really bad sign for her nationwide, because she would have
lost ten points of the lead, but Biden won by
twenty three. That really kind of is a if that
were to happen, an interesting snapshot. Yes, well, it also
has effect on congressional races in New York State, which
are very important for keeping the Republicans to control the House. Remember,
(06:52):
you don't just want a Trump victory in this presidential election.
You want a majority for Republicans in the Senate and
in the House if you have unified government. Remember, Trump's
only got four years left. If he wins, he's going
to have to go He's going to have to come
right out of the gates and push a legislative agenda
with everything that he's got from the very beginning, and
(07:14):
he'll have you know, maybe a year before it just
all turns into you know, fighting over the midterms. And
everyone's scrambling for power and that whole mess. So it's
very important he has a Senate and House control behind
him and on the Republican side. And I think that
you only have Republicans to control the House now because
of some overperformance by the GOP in California New York respectively,
(07:37):
specifically in Long Island, Lovely Place, Love Long Island. And
I think you can say that while leez Elden wasn't
able to win the governorship, he was a strong enough
kind of wind at the backs of other candidates in
New York that he helped push them Republicans over the
finish line for a razor thin majority of the House.
We don't talk about the House battle very much. That's
(08:00):
going to be very that's gonna be very much in
contention this time around. So it's not like we have
a big lead that we can afford to lose a
lot of seats and still maintain a majority in New York.
If you have the numbers that we're seeing right now
for Harris, that would be an indicator of some very
strong finishes for other Republicans who will be on the
ballot there. I think Clay that if you're the Trump team,
(08:24):
you have to view this and say this is going
pretty well. It's better than it has ever been for
Trump at this phase. So you know, he won one,
he lost one. And this is also where I think
you can point out this was an amazing stat It's
all over online right now. It has been almost sixty days.
It's fifty nine days, okay, almost two months since Harris
(08:46):
was the nominee. Effectively, right, the de facto nominee Trump
advance have done over seventy seventy media hits, you know, interviews, press,
press sit downs. Harris and Walls together have done seven.
I mean, we're not just saying that the strategy has
hide the candidate from the media. The strategy has hied
(09:09):
the candidate from the media. It's at the point now, Clay,
where Morning Joe has to admit that that's what they're
doing and try to explain how that's a good thing
and not a dishonest thing. Right, this whole thing is
supposed to be pulling the wool over the eyes of
the American voter and hoping that they can't see through
and figure out what's going on here, no doubt, And
(09:30):
those numbers are staggering, and you can imagine if they
were reversed how much whaling there would be. And look,
the lesson they took from twenty twenty was we can
have a mediocre candidate and we can hide him from
the press, and we can try to make this race
entirely about Donald Trump. And a lot of people out
there listening to us right now are not able to
(09:53):
name a single thing they like about what Kamala has
done during her tenure as vice president, but they are
going to vot vote for her because they have Trump
Trump derangement syndrome, because they have been driven bonkers and
they're emotionally responding and they're just not willing to vote
for Trump. And that's not because of anything Kamala is done.
(10:14):
So they're trying to make it like they did in
twenty twenty. Difference is you had COVID in twenty twenty
and Trump was the incumbent. I think such an effective
attack for Trump is, if you've got all these great ideas,
why haven't you implemented them already? You've been in power
for three and a half years. And secondly, and this
is a question that I would encourage many of you
(10:34):
to be asking is you are sitting around tables, maybe
you're with persuadable people in your lives, friends, family, Name
one thing Kamala is done that you think is a
really good job such that she deserves a promotion. I
don't think there's one thing people can point to, Buck,
I legitimately don't. We had that guy call in from
(10:54):
Omaha yesterday. I open phone lines eight hundred and two
eighty two to two. Is there anyone listening to us
right now who is voting for Kamala not against Trump?
I know there are lots of people that are voting
against Trump. What has Kamala done that you believe she
is deserving of a promotion. Is there a single person
(11:18):
out there listening to us right now that can call
in and say something that Kamala did well such that
you believe she deserves a promotion. Again, I think a
lot of Kamala voters are just anti Trump people. They
would show up and vote against Trump no matter who
he was running against. But the real question here is
she's the incumbent. What has she done to prove that
she deserves a promotion. I'll tell you this, Clay, I
(11:40):
think that the loyalty of the deranged Democrat party these
days is so strong to the brand that if there
were a way for them to legally vote for a placeholder,
and I mean this, if you could get Democrats so
that they could have them a ballot Democrat will tell
(12:00):
you later ninety ninety plus percent of Democrats would say, sure,
you guys, let us know later on. As long as
it's a Democrat, we don't care, which also means you
could replace the Democrat with anybody. In fact, the whole
move to Kamala from Biden is really just an indicator of, oh, yeah,
we think we can just have a Democrat run no
real campaign and be a particularly weak Democrat and shove
(12:23):
her boss in essence the president out of office or
you know, out of the spotlight, out of reelection, and
we can still win an election. You know what I'm saying,
It's yeah, they, the people who are voting for Kamala,
would vote for a fill in the blank Democrat. And
I don't mean that as hyperba I'm pulling a Biden.
It's not hyperbole. It's not a joke.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Jokes, no jokes.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean that, seriously, they would do it. They would say, sure,
tell me who the Democrat is in January. As long
as it's a Democrat and not Trump, I think that's
one hundred percent accurate. We'll take some of your calls.
Maybe there's a diehard Kamala supporter out there in this
audience of millions going to be it's gonna be nice.
Just when you call in Kamala supporter, tell them that,
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As we
are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. A
lot of poll data like we said, pouring in today,
(15:01):
and all of it basically gives the same storyline, which is,
if you're in Nevada, if you're in Arizona, you're in
North Carolina, if you're in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin,
it's going to be super tight. And boy, oh boy,
are we going to have a lot to pay attention
(15:23):
to when election night arrives. But I think what is
becoming clear, and we just talked about this quite a bit, Buck,
I don't think that there has been some incredible alteration
of the trajectory of the race based on the debate
that happened last week.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
There.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
If they're to the extent that there is any sort
of debate impact on the polls, it's going to fade
really really fast. I mentioned, and I really do encourage
you to do this. Trump was on Gutfeld last night.
I don't know if you happened to see it, Buck,
I had an advertiser dinner with our friends that price
picks last night. I got home, my wife had Fox
(16:04):
News on and the Gutfeld Show was just about to
start when I got home, and Trump was phenomenal on it.
And for those of you out there that have never
watched Gutfeld show. It's the most watched. What I would
say is kind of comedy focused show out there. Bigger
than Kimmel, Bigger than than I came, even Colebert, Bigger
(16:26):
than it's late it's a late night show right now,
I think, Yeah, I think it's late night the same way.
We don't have to give some kind of special privilege
to the you know, the like the the nepotism, if
you will, of these other shows that get inherited, Like
Greg built his own show. It's super successful. It's on
against them and he kicks their butt. Yeah, ABC, NBC,
and CBS, the traditional homes of late night television all
(16:48):
lose to Gutfeld. And what I loved about it Buck,
you've done this show before. There's just a panel basically
a four everybody's in comfortable chairs, and they had Trump
as one of the panels. And you don't know, I've
done the show quite a few times. You don't really
know what the topics are, the conversation is going to be,
(17:08):
how it's going to go. It's all, to a large extent, unscripted,
and he was phenomenal. It's one of the best media
events that I have seen Trump do in some time,
and again I would encourage you if you didn't see
it and you want a good laugh, but also just
the sense of man. Trump is just a pretty good dude.
(17:30):
I think you will get it from that performance last night.
It's one of the best media performances I've seen from him,
and Trump's had a lot. I mean, I know this
is just a little aside, but Clay and I both
spent a fair amount of time with President Trump. I
met him for the first time in person when I
was thirteen years old, so I got back with him
quite a long time, and he's just like a fun
guy to talk to. A lot of politicians, not so much.
(17:52):
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All these polls come flying in, giving us a census
(18:58):
to what's happening right now. Remember it's not election day,
so polls or just a snapshot in time of sentiment.
They could change tomorrow, but they give us a sense
of momentum. They give us a sense as to how
close this is going to be, where it's going to
be close. I do think Trump is looking good in
Wisconsin at this point, and maybe enough that he'll help
(19:21):
pull our friend mister Hovedy across the line in the
great state of Wisconsin. Our wisn fam up there on Wisconsin.
You are an army out there. We appreciate so much
all of you listening in the Milwaukee area, and you
can go out and do your best to get friends
and family to the polls in a state like Wisconsin.
You know, you don't need that many people to get
(19:42):
really engaged to be able to see how it affects
the numbers. So just remember that. You know, I grew
up in New York City where I was like, I'm
going to vote Republican because that's my civic duty to vote.
And then I would just get crushed. You know, it's
like eighty twenty. You just get crushed here in the ear.
Although Juliani did win the mayor when I was but
I was too young to vote for that right. I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I wasn't a part of the Giuliani miracle because I
was twelve or something. But anyway, this is it's good
for Trump. That's the bottom line. And there's something else
I just wanted to note. First of all, the fact
that they've only done seven interviews with Kamala and Walls
is in a sense, it's really all you have to
know because it's such clear indication of what a disaster
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she really is as a candidate. And also I think
that people's sense of the debate. There's some polling that
shows some marginal you know, victory for Kamala and debate.
I really just think she did a little better than
people thought. But she memorized lines. It wasn't like Kamala
impressed us with her knowledge and her you know, ability
to handle things on the fly. She memorized lines and
(20:49):
she keeps saying those lines. So the longer she goes,
the more it's like, wait a second. So you're like
an actor who, unless he's spewing Shakespeare, doesn't sound very
smart because you got nothing to say. You know, there's
this is what people have always said about de Niro.
By the way, without a script, he's as dumb as
a fence post. You ever heard that before, You know
what I mean? That doesn't surprise me because memorizing lines
(21:12):
or reading, frankly, for people who don't know how teleprompter
or television works, you're basically an actor if you're not
on the fly reacting to what people say, and you
got an ear piece in so people in the production
room can tell you questions to ask or give you
data points or whatever else. I mean, you can tell
(21:33):
pretty quickly who is good on their feet and who's not.
And that's why I thought the Trump Gutfeld situation was
so great. Kamala Harris would never do that. She would
never do an unscripted one of four panel discussion show.
That's what I thought was so great about the Gutfeld
setup was they didn't treat Trump any differently than they
would have you or me if we were a panelist
(21:56):
on the show. They had cat tempt, they had tyrists
who were always there. Our friend Emily Campagno was there.
And then Gutfeld hosted it and Trump was the fourth panelist,
and he just sat in the chair like hung out,
like would ordinarily have happened on the show, and he
fit in fantastically well. He gave Gutfeld a lot of
grief for not being enough of a Trump supporter early
(22:17):
on and saying a lot of awful things about him,
And I actually thought there are a bunch of quotes
from there that I thought were great, But the gut
Felt asked him about it, and he said, if I
only was allied with people who said nice things about
me all the time. I would have no like, no
political allies, because everybody has ripped me at some point.
And I think that's one thing we've talked about it
(22:38):
on this show. Trump doesn't get enough credit for being
totally willing to give up on any sort of an antipathy,
grudge or anything else. The minute somebody's like, you know what,
he's doing a pretty good job, he forgets all the
negative that was said. Hey, there's always room on the
train if you'll get on the train. There's room on
(22:59):
the train, but you have to get on the Trump train. Absolutely.
But Jadie Vance called him America's Hitler, and now he's running.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
With him as VP.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean, that's a perfect example of this is also
why not not to go back here. But when people
were very upset in the primary, particularly at some of
the Ronda Santis fans out there, and they're like, you're
never gonna be allowed back, I was like, no, no,
they're gonna be allowed back in the Republican ten. It's okay,
Like it was a rough primary, but it's okay. We
can all Nick endorsed him. I understand Dick Cheney and
(23:27):
Liz Cheney, which you could predict and all those people
like the Liz Cheney one's particularly funny buck because it
now is the case that she's so anti Trump that
she's willing to support the furthest left wing Democrat nominee
of all time. And all these people out there who
are running the Bulwark or the Lincoln Project, I guarantee
you if ron DeSantis were the nominee, and I think
(23:49):
DeSantis would have been the nominee if Trump were not,
they would be attacking DeSantis every bit as vociferously as
they have been attacking Trump. I have zero doubt. Because
that's also where their audience, in their mind is now.
They are there. They're Democrat mercenaries, is what they are.
They're mercenaries, and that they'll just take money to fight
for whichever side, and the money comes from the Democrats.
(24:10):
Right now, because you can't argue to me at least
that this is I mean, there's one former Republican or
former Conservative who always does the conservative case for and
it's become this this cliche, it's become this meme of
you know, the conservative case for abortion for all nine
months of a pregnancy, the conservative case for open borders,
(24:31):
and DEI programs. You're like, you're a leftist.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
You're not making it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
There's no conservative case. You're just a leftist. You just
hate Trump so much that you have switched teams. You
are Benedict Arnold. You have betrayed your team and you
now fight for the other team. I just wish they
were honest about it. But there's so much of that
because what they all the Republicans who go on MSNBC,
They're all Democrats who call themselves Republicans. It's such a sham.
(24:57):
It's it's absurd. I mean, you know, I think Joe
Scarborough's t tically an independent now, but you know, the
guy's a Democrat. How can you be an independent and
have nothing critical to say about Kamala Harris, who's the
worst Democrat candidate since Duccacus. I totally agree with all that,
and I also just think it's amazing to think about
the political trajectory we're on. That Dick Cheney, who in
(25:18):
the days of Fahrenheit nine to one, one right, nine
to eleven or whatever it was, the Michael Moore, Dick
Cheney was Satan. He was Darth Vader. He was the
great evil of the entire United States. Even up to
what was the movie that Will Ferrell's but he made
about the Imperial Presidency where Dick Cheney was the bad guy.
(25:42):
Do you know what I'm talking about? It was about
was advice. I think that's what it was. I think
it was called Weisa and it was the Welsh guy
kind of malugionisque. Actually, what's his name? The guy plays Batman.
He's a mallusion. I mean they spent Christian Bale play
in that movieh and that was like the Hollywood just
(26:05):
take down, like we're gonna crush Dick Cheney and all
these things. And now last week Kamala Harris is bragging
about Dick Cheney endorsing her. I just, I mean, the
world is so upside down. And we talked about this yesterday,
but we should follow up. The Teamsters decline to endorse
Kamala for the first time that they have not endorsed
(26:29):
a Democrat, I believe, going all the way back to.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Now their rank and file members are overwhelmingly voting Trump
based on the poll data they put out sixty forty.
But it feels like to me they should have endorsed Trump.
But they're trying to just basically say, well, we're not
going to make an endorsement, which is a win for Trump,
but the rank and file teamsters, primarily in the Midwest,
(26:56):
buck is a glaring sign of weakness for Kamala Harris
because they voted for Biden in twenty twenty one. Thing
that's going to be fun. Klay and I were just
discussing this in a commercial break there for a second.
I want you to hear this. Pelosi's out there making
this case that there wasn't that they didn't just annoint Kamala.
(27:17):
There was an open primary, she won, And this is
I truly, this is Soviet style rewriting of history. You know,
just so you know, in the Soviet Union, Stalin actually
had expert photo you know, refinishing or retouching people. Because
when they would liquidate people who were in photos with Stalin,
you know this clay, they would remove them, They would.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Remove them from the photos. Yeah, this is a real
exist them.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
They would erase you from the public record because obviously
there's no internet. So like, oh, you're in photos with Stalin,
you got executed. I got our movie from the photo.
Soviet Soviet mindset rewriting of history going on by Democrats
when it comes to Kamala Here's here's Pelosi saying, oh, yeah,
she won the primary.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
What you had reportedly said you wanted a sort of
an open primary. When if Joe Biden stepped down, did
you change your mind because you saw all the excitement
around Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
No, I didn't change my mind. We had an open
primary and she won it. Nobody else got in the
race because she was politically a student, and that was
the part. Let's show our talent. We have a great
bench of all these great people in the country, and
she just the president endorsed her. And that's a big
(28:36):
deal because Joe Biden's most consequential president of modern times.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Nancy Pelosi truly lives in an alternate universe. I mean,
I understand she's been able to acquire and wield power
effectively for the left into the tremendous detriment of the
United States for many years, but she is like her
mind is actually on some other reality. Clay, Kamala Harris
clearly didn't win a primary. I don't know what do
(29:03):
you even think she's saying? Joe Biden is the most consonant,
so Joe Biden's more consequential to a Democrat than Barack Obama. Really, Yeah,
she tried to argue, remember that he should be on
Mount Rushmore. Remember we played that audio like it was good.
I think that and favorite one of my favorite clips
from the DNC. Do you remember when they had the
(29:25):
video of Nancy Pelosi chanting we love Joe or whatever
it was, and like she was like dismissively doing it. She,
I think, to be fair, has been friends with Joe
Biden on some level. Again, political friends a lot of times,
bs like who knows whether they really like each other
or not, but they've been allies for forty years, and
(29:46):
it seems like she is desperate to try to repair
the rupture of their relationship such that she now is
going way over the top anytime she discusses Joe Biden's
political career. I also just I think it's worth no
clay if Kamala loses this election. Oh man, these so
(30:06):
many of these Democrats who were like, She's the greatest
candidate I've ever seen. She's amazing. They'll be like, oh,
I can't believe we got stuck with Kamala. She was terrible.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
We all knew.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
They will all admit that they all knew she was terrible.
The level of dishonesty here is mind blowing. Also, think
about Kamala's future. She is either going to somehow get
elected president and be an awful president. But she'll get
elected president be the first woman. It'll be a big deal.
She'll echo throughout history sadly or buck they're gonna kick
(30:40):
her to the curb like Michael Decaccus. She'll end up
like the president of the University of California or something
like that. That's a great gig. She'll make a million
dollars a year to go to cocktail parties. What do
I get? I disagree, she won't have a huge political future,
but they'll take very good Kamala's going to be richer
than she currently is, and she's already rich by the way. Yeah,
but they're just gonna shunt her off to the side
(31:03):
and completely hide her. Or she's going to be famous
for hundreds of years like this is. I mean, think
about the twist here. If she wins, like as crazy
as it is, hundreds of years from now, she'll be
on I can't believe this is real, but all the
pictures of the presidents. She'll be the first woman ever elected.
Hundreds of years from now, long after we're all dead,
(31:24):
people will be talking about Kamala Harris and her historic
presidency or buck. Nobody is going to remember her name
at all, and they're gonna put her as, you know,
the president of some California university, whereas Trump's going to
be a historic figure for a long time because he
was a president. Regardless of what happens here, the swing
(31:45):
on potential outcomes for Kamala Harris's narrative right now is
off the charts wild. Yeah. I mean, does anyone remember
John Nance Garner? I mean, if FDR had gotten a
really bad cold, you might remember him. But you know
that was the bottle of warm spit, right he said,
the MVP. That's the only thing I know about. Yeah. Well, well, well,
(32:05):
like amateur presidential historian Clay remembers this guy, but like
no normal person out there is like throwing out John
Nance Garner's name. No, there's a ton I mean, she
will be she will be relegated to the dustbin of history,
or she will be famous for hundreds of years based
on what happens in about forty five days I'm impressed
you just pulled out the bucket. I gotta say a
(32:26):
little golf clap for you. There, bucket a warm spit
on the fly you just knew I you know, which
I think, by the way, was edited. I'm gonna make
myself even more of a history nerd. I think he
actually said it was a bucket of warm piss, but
you couldn't say the word piss back then, so they
changed it to spit.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
So I think there's a dispute about which oney press.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Impressed by her historical knowledge, Bill Malugin just saying, well,
he is a dreamy man. Uh yeah to Mekin of history.
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Speaker 1 (34:11):
You know, sometimes we get it still. I'm sorry, Clay,
I just jumped in. You're supposed to jump in. I
just he's just said this to me. I have reminded of
reading this this morning, A fun, silly story. But this
zoo in China. I just waited the video. If people
want to look at it, we'll put it up. It's
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They put dogs painted like panda bears in an enclosure
and said that they were panda bears. And now people
finally figured out because the pandas were barking like dogs,
that they aren't in fact pandas. Anyway, I thought this
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That's that's very funny, very well played. Pierce says, Hey,
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these are really hysterical emails. Anyway, I appreciate all of
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You can go check that out. I appreciate all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
We gotta laugh because God knows the next forty five
days are going to be stressful.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
We got to have some humor along the way.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Did we say, by the way, who the guests are today?
I think you did, Michael Wattley and Matt Walsh. One
of the battlegrounds is North Carolina. Buck Whattley was in
North Carolina, very involved in the race in twenty twenty.
We'll find out from him what he thinks about twenty
twenty four. And also, so many of you out there
are worried about the twenty twenty four election being rigged.
(36:43):
That's why we want to talk with Michael Wottley. If
you're concerned about that, bottom of the next hour, we'll
dive into those details with him.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
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