September 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off with breaking news from the Oval Office, where President Donald Trump meets with the Prime Minister of Turkey and addresses the press on multiple issues. The hosts analyze Trump’s remarks, including his blunt assessment of rising left-wing violence and his warning that radical rhetoric from Democrats is fueling domestic terrorism.
The discussion shifts to the U.S. economy, highlighting a surprising 3.8% GDP growth in Q2, record-high stock prices, and falling interest rates. Clay and Buck break down how lower mortgage rates could unlock the housing market and why economic growth—not spending cuts—may be the only path to balancing the federal budget. They also touch on Elon Musk’s prediction that AI-driven innovation could help offset ballooning deficits.
The hour takes a serious turn with updates on politically motivated violence, including the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a deadly shooting at an ICE facility, and threats against a vigil in Texas. The hosts argue that these incidents underscore a disturbing trend of left-wing extremism, contrasting it with media narratives about right-wing violence. Trump’s comments on this issue are played in full, emphasizing his stance that the radical left is responsible for escalating tensions.
Later, the conversation zeroes in on James Comey, the former FBI Director, as reports suggest possible criminal charges for lying under oath before the statute of limitations expires. Clay and Buck revisit Comey’s controversial role in targeting General Michael Flynn and his history of aggressive prosecutions, including the Martha Stewart case. They stress the importance of accountability to prevent the U.S. from descending into “banana republic” politics.
The segment wraps with listener calls on topics ranging from Major League Baseball playoff races to the New Jersey governor’s race, plus a humorous aside about Kamala Harris’s “boring” new book and its implications for her political future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thursday edition of Clay and Bought kicks off right now,
and let's just jump to it. We got in the
Oval office President Trump with the premiere of Turkey. He
is sitting down, they are talking, he is taking questions.
Let jump to it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Play it. Great friendship, President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A few news items. Sorry, well, he said that the
right is a lot tougher than the left.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's true for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We'll give you some of the top sound bites and
some of the most important things from all of this
here coming up shortly. We've also got some news on
the economy. James Comy in the headlines once again because
of the possibility of charges against Komy before that five
(00:48):
year clock runs out on the Statute of Limitations. We've
got more updates also on the ice facility, that fatal
shooting that happened yesterday, discuss that Hillary Clinton is weighing
in on things, a whole range of things right now,
which we will share with you so we can pull
apart her preposterous arguments. And we've also got Washington Post
(01:14):
yesterday reporting that marked classified material was found in the
home of former Trump national security advisor Bolton. He's also
formerly a Fox News contributor, so a lot of you
have seen him on Fox. He's the guy with the
mustache he'd seen over many years. That's not good. If
that is accurate, he's in. If that reporting, i should say,
(01:35):
is accurate, that's going to be a very tough one
to explain to anyone. And he's not a former president.
There's no basis for him to have declassified anything. So
we can talk a little bit more about that. But
I just want to note I love when we can
take a moment for just some positive news. And here
is CNBC's Rick Santelli saying the look second quarter GDP
(01:59):
even a little better than anticipated. Play clip one.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now on the GDP side, this is our third time
around the block on Q two, and we see a
really solid revision three point eight percent. I'm a bit shocked,
to be honest. Usually the revisions as you get to
second and third become smaller and smaller. So three point
eight percent would be the best quarter going back to
and we have to go back aways here to four
(02:25):
point four and that was the third quarter of twenty three. Now,
it is important to point out that if you look
at the first quarter, final down half of percent. There's
a balance there, but the balance is moving in favor
of Momentum is moving in.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Favor for better growth.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Clay looking pretty good still on the economy, and Trump
not getting much credit for it from the media for
obvious reasons. But if somebody had told me at the
start of his presidency, this is where the numbers would be,
and this is how the markets and also how rates
and inflation and everything would look at this point, it's
pretty darn good. I think the president should be happy,
(03:03):
certainly with the progress so far we've seen in year one.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
No doubt, and we've got record basically high stock prices.
You've got overall inflation continuing to come down. The much
maligned impact of tariff seem to be nonexistent. All of
the experts are now buck as you watch, coming out
and saying, hey, well, we haven't seen the pricing impact
(03:28):
that we thought from the tariff situation. The overall interest
rates are coming down, Jerown Powell is behind on being
able to do that, but we just got the quarter
point decline. There's a forecast of a couple of more
declines on interest rates and then going into next year.
So I would suspect that you're going to see fifteen
(03:49):
and thirty year mortgages continue to come down, which is
going to help to free up you were talking I
think we were talking about this off air, the degree
to which the housing market has been just rosen to
a large extent, because look, if you were fortunate enough
to get one of those two and a half or
three percent mortgages, you don't want to move. And if
(04:10):
you were unfortunate enough to buy and have a seven
percent mortgage, I'm telling you you're going to start to
see a lot of movement as those mortgage rates get
down to four and a half five percent and there
starts to be less of a major difference in potentially
moving selling homes. I think when the housing market just
kind of gets unlocked and it starts to move freely
(04:33):
as is a more liquid asset class, I think you're
going to see a lot of rapid growth. But three
point eight percent growth is amazing. Look, there's two ways
to balance a budget. One is to essentially cut spending.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
In a massive way. That's what Doje was trying to do.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
There is I'm just going to tell you there is
no political will to massively cut spending. Democrats aren't going
to do it. Republic aren't going to do it. And
this is where I think Elon Musk is correct. So
how do you get about balancing the budget. You have
to grow the economy and you have to grow the
revenue that the growing economy is going to produce.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think that's where Elon now is saying, Hey, AI
is going to potentially be so transformative in what it
provides to the overall economy that we're just going to
have to grow our way to get past the ballooning
national deficits. Because people like things, and when you give
them things they do not want.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Santa Claus.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Santa Claus is very tough to compete with, getting free
goodies that you don't have to pay for over and
over again, and you know, people get very It's funny
too because everyone wants to cut It's like everyone's a
hero when it comes to the budget until you actually
talk about what has to be cut from the budget,
and then we have.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Some we have some big problem. All right. So this
is what I wanted to play before.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just wanted to know this was just said by
President Trump now just to set this up play. So
we've had the Charlie Kirk assassination, which we are all
still dealing with the trauma and the heartbreak of that. Honestly,
also the processing of how many lunatics are out there
(06:19):
who were celebrating such a horrific event is that's also
in a way its own trauma, I think as an American,
and much lesser than seeing what happened with Charlie. But
for a lot of people, it's made it's brought it
home to them as well, that there could be anybody
they know in their life or so that that would
celebrate such a horrific thing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
There's that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
There's now the we'll have more details on this to
share with everybody, more reporting on it. But the guy
who killed he killed two migrants at the ice facility.
So this guy is anti ice, but he killed two
migrants being processed in an ice facility because he just
opened fire. So this, I mean, it's horrible no matter what.
(06:58):
But also you just add, this person is such a
such a gross and evil individual that he killed. He's
upset about what's happening to migrants.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We killed two of them. It's clearly.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
ABI has released a couple of more data points on
that guy. We try to avoid naming these guys, so
I'm not going to do that. But he downloaded the
list of DHS facilities. This is according to libs of TikTok,
repeated searches on the Charlie Kirk shooting, tracked ICE agent
movements through apps and had a handwritten note saying, quote
(07:33):
hopefully this will give.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
ICE agents real terror.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So anyone out there who is trying to argue that
this is anything other than yet another left wing shooter
motivated by left wing political arguments is being dishonest to you.
And again that is the absolute latest in terms of
the FBI investigation that they have reported.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So this is cut twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Trump spoke about I'm sorry, cut twenty six eighteen twenty eight,
Trump spoke about this left wing violence play. What are
you hold responsible for the up taking?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Left wing violence?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Radical left rhetoric, The radical left is causing the problem.
They're out of control, they're saying things, and they're really
dumb people. I mean, I look at Crockett, I look.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
At some of these people.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
They're very low IQ people actually. But the radical left
is causing this problem, not the right, the radical left,
and it's going to get worse, and ultimately it's going
to go back on them. I mean, bad things happen
when they play these games. And I'll give you a
little clue. The right is a lot tougher than the left.
But the right's not doing this. They're not doing it,
(08:44):
and they better not get them energized because it won't
be good for the left. And I don't want to
see that happen either. I'm the president of all the people.
But the radical left is causing this radical left democrats
are causing this problem, and it gets worse, it gets worse,
and it'll be a point where other people won't take
it anymore, and that will.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Not be good for the radical left. So we don't
want that play.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I just appreciate that the President is saying it in
the most plain spoken, straightforward, no nonsense way possible. He's like,
the left is the problem, guys, the left are the
ones doing the violence. I just also wish that we
all could say, or we could just be reminded that
Davy Crockett, fantastic American icon, Crockett coffee, a delicious coffee.
(09:29):
When he's saying Crockett, he's referring to Congresswoman Crockett, who
is causing some brand some brand problems sometimes. But yes,
the left is the problem. The left is where the
violence is.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Another left wing violent incident that has been getting some
attention this morning, Buck that ties into what the President
was just saying. This is a Fox News alert. A
man's been arrested charged after allegedly making social media threats
against a Charlie Kirk vigil at the University of Texas,
San Antonio. This man allegedly suggested on social media he
(10:03):
planned to use his truck to drive through and disrupt
the Charlie Kirk vigil. I mean, this is everywhere, and
it's happening in every state. And again, the gunman who
opened fire yesterday at the Dallas Ice facility has a
left written record that he wanted to provide real terror
(10:28):
for Ice agents and that he again, I mean, this
is just not.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We We didn't even mention this either, because there's so
much of this stuff. A guy shot up in ABC
we have news affiliate. Yeah, And second, he was upset
about Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air, so he
shot up an ABC News affiliate.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Jimmy Kimmel's back on the air.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I might add, and you're like, these people are such
maniacs that they're going to shoot at innocent people because
some guy was some millionaire jerk was taken off the
air for a couple of days, like he got a
free vacation out of it. How much more of this
you stack these things up? How much more of this
has to happen? That's all clearly politically aligned with Democrats,
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with the left, with the commis.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Before there's just no there's no argument, there's no debate anymore,
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I saw Megan Kelly Clay was at was at what
was it to Virginia Tech. I think it was a
speaking you know, as part of turning point now reaching
out and having people go to campuses to continue Charlie's work,
and some kid did the whole. The violence comes from
the right. The violence comes from the right. People are delusional.
They're being fed lies by the Democrat media and by
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the Democrat you know, think tanks and everything else and
the Democrat.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Party, and what they're being told is just absurd.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I mean, how can you make this, How can you
make this claim with a straight face?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Where is this right wing violence?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Or we're gonna have to hear about JA six again,
is that that that's the big terror, that's the worse
than nine to eleven. Remember they used to say that
is worse than nine to eleven. Yeah, worse than nine
to eleven, worse than Pearl Harbor, the worst thing that's
happened in the country since the Civil War. That's legitimately
what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris argued about January sixth.
I mean that was their direct talking point, worst thing
(12:17):
that's happened in the country since the Civil War. I'm worried,
Clay that people are going to recognize more and more
that even if Democrats wanted to put this genie back
in the bottle, so to speak, even if they wanted
to close up Pandora's box with all the lies they
have told about the fascist republic aidents who were destroying
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democracy and all this stuff, I don't even think that
they could do this. I don't think they could turn
it off now, is my point. I think they have
unleashed this long enough on the American people that we
are going to have to continue to suffer through what
are just waves of domestic terrorism, plain and simple by
people who think because the new York Times and CNN
and Joe Biden and Kamala told them they think they're
(13:02):
fighting fascism, and by fascism they mean Nazis. Like no
one's really going around like Trump is just like Mussolini.
It's Nazis. And the reason they want to compais some
the Nazis is so they feel justified in being violent
against us. It's very straightforward. It's insane, but it's straightforward.
The reason they say that is so they have an
excuse to kill us. Yeah, that's the simple truth. And
(13:24):
the fact that they've done it for ten years. By
the way, I don't believe that any of the Democrat
leadership actually believes that argument, right, because if they did.
When Donald Trump got hit in the ear and when
another guy tried to kill him, they wouldn't have said, well,
we condemned that violence, right, If you truly thought Trump
was hitler, you should be honest and say, well, I
(13:44):
wish they hadn't missed. They never say that because they
know it would play so poorly in the larger public.
But with their.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Deranged, lunatic base, I don't know what percentage of them,
but enough of them to kill Charlie Kirk, and enough
of them to kill Bill at the Dallas ice facility,
and enough of them to go to Brett Kavanaugh's house,
and enough of them to show up at the softball
baseball team practice and start firing away.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
There is a.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Deranged, lunatic fringe of the left that is acting on
what they believe that is true coming from the Democrat base.
Their arguments and buck they think they're heroes. You have
to go into these misguided soul's brains and think about
the way that they are motivating themselves. They're making it
clear why they're doing what they're doing. They're writing it
(14:35):
on the bullets. They think they.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Are heroes for the actions that they are undertaking.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, look at men Luigi whatever his name is, yes,
and how he there are leftists who think he is
a hero. He's got fans, he has fans everybody. This
guy murdered an American father, husband. It's a guy's doing
his job. You can say you don't like healthcare companies.
All you want murder somebody because they work at a
(15:01):
healthcare company or they run a healthcare company. A lot
of leftists think that that was great, and they say
it online. They're insane. You don't see this on the right,
it's not to it. So Trump is correct hammer this point.
It is not a both sides thing. The problem is
on the left. The problem is with the Democrats, and
we have to face up to that as a country.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
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Speaker 4 (16:44):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We were
just talking about the fact that President Trump had a
presser with the President Prime Minister of Turkey and he
was weighing in on a variety of different subjects. Here
he is, We talked about Bolton and will maybe die
into that in a little bit of detail during the
course of today's program the investigation There here he is
(17:05):
talking about Komy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It seems like an adament of James komy is elements.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Would this be the first step and accountability for pushing
the hopes of Russia Russia Russia.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Along with Barack Obama involved as well.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Well, I can't tell you what's going to happen because
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
You have very professional people headed up by the Attorney
General and Todd Todd Blench and Lindsay Allaghan, who's very smart,
good lawyer, very good lawyer.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
They're going to make a determination.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'm not making that determined. I think I'd be.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Allowed to get involved of it once, but I don't
really choose to do so. I can only say that
Kobe's a bad person. He's a sick person. I think
he's a sick guy. Actually he did terrible things at
the FBI. But I don't know. I have no idea
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Let's come back and talk about that Clay here in
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four safe. All right, welcome back, Welcome back in here't
you colle and Buck And we were just talking a
moment ago before we should have brief caused there to
get into the comy situation. Now, let's be clear, nothing
has happened yet. There's a lot of discussion though a
(19:14):
lot of reporting that is indicating that someone thinks high
up the chain. There will be charges brought against James Commey,
the former FBI director, for.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Lying under oath.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And this may or may not happen, but there has
certainly been a lot of chatter about it, and there's
a lot of reporting suggesting that it is likely to happen,
And so Clay I thought that we should remind everybody
because I really always want to make sure that any
time someone has the possibility of their freedom being taken away,
(19:53):
even for a day, never mind for months or even years,
I always want to make sure that the person is
guilty of the crime and that it is a reasonable
punishment for the crime that they have committed. You know,
because if we start getting into third world banana republic
stuff of people, Oh you mean, like what they did
(20:14):
to Trump. Trust me, I know, we can't allow this
country to go down that pathway. Avoiding that does require
consequences for those who have been involved in trying to
do that. And if they broke the law, if you
broke the law, trying to use the law as a
weapon against people in politics, law is the law, right,
(20:38):
that's where we're all supposed to be on this. That's
the only Without that, we have nothing right. Without that,
everything just starts to become pure power stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And Clay, this is a throw This is a.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Throwback flashback December of twenty eighteen at the Well in
New York City, James Comy talking to Cole Wallace. I
want everyone to hear this exchange before we to be
reminded of who this guy, James Comy really is, because
I think this encapsulates it really well.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Play three.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Look at this White House now, and it's hard to
imagine two FBI agents sending up in the sit room.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How did that happen?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I sent them something I probably wouldn't have done or
maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, more
organized administration in the George W. Bush administration, for example,
or the Obama administration. The protocol two men that all
of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last
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two years. And in both of those administrations there was process.
And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into
the White House itself to interview a senior official, you
would work through the White House Council and there'd be
discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I
(21:56):
thought it's early enough, let's just send a couple of
guys over.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Played, and so.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
We placed to call to Flynn said, Hey, we're sending
a couple of guys over. I hope you'll talk to them.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
He said, sure.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference
room at the White House Situation Room, and he lied
to them. And that's what he's now played guilty to.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
What did he think they were coming over there for.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
I don't think he knew. I know we didn't tell him.
Just so, we've got a couple sending over, a couple
of agents. I want to ask you some questions. I
didn't have this conversation. My deputy director did, but I
hope you got a few minutes you can sit down
and talk to them. And he said sure.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I just want to say this lay before we get
into some of the specifics. If Coleby broke the law,
he should face the full consequences of a law. He's
a scumbag, and I hope he spends years in prison
if he broke the law. And there are people who
seem to think that he did. Did you hear I mean,
when you listen to what this guy did to General Flynn,
they used the Law Logan Act as a pretext to
send FBI agents to the incoming National Security Advisor's office
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to just have a conversation. He thought they were probably
just welcoming him to the new administration. And then they claim,
with no proof other than their word against his that
he lied about non illegal activity that he was completely
justified in doing and they only did this because they
on mass phone calls abusing Pfizer in the process.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is also where the Statute of limitations play in.
And I know we've talked about this statute of limitations
issue on a lot of these cases, and I know
people roll their eyes and they try to say, well,
it's an ongoing conspiracy and all these things. The COMI charges,
based on my reading statute of limitations related buck must
(23:51):
happen almost immediately. In other words, they're going to be
able to argue, hey, that Statute of Limitations has told
we are no longer able to be charged under these auspices.
And given that we know many federal district court judges,
the people who were likely be assigned these cases are
(24:12):
not going to be favorably disposed to the Trump administration.
You've got to have everything lined up when you bring
these charges, and you've got to get it done well.
And we haven't even talked about this, but but I
think we probably should have. There are tons. I think
it's like seven or eight different individuals that the DC
Grand Jury has refused to indict for blatant crimes during
(24:37):
the Trump crime surge to try to bring down crime
in DC. The grand jury has just said, for instance,
the guy who threw the sandwich at the cop, it's
on video, blatant he did it. They just said, yeah,
we're not indicting for this. So the politics of DC
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when it comes to getting people indicted, even when you
have evidence on video of crimes being committed, some of
the grand jury members are just like, nah, I kind
of agree with what they did. I'm not going to
agree to charges here being evil. Absolutely, it's very political.
But I wanted everyone to hear what a sanctimonious scumbag
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Comy is. It's call him sankt to Comy Clay back
in the day. He's a bad dude. He's always been
a bad dude. He's slithered from one administration to another
within the bureaucracy, and somehow always ended up, you know,
elevating himself. And he's the guy who, over the objections
of fellow prosecutors, wanted Martha Stewart to go to prison
(25:44):
just because he wanted to make a name for himself.
Martha Stewart worth reminding everybody serve time in prison. Okay,
the lady who's like, you know, here's how to make
the most delicious summer salad. And you know, you all
know Martha Stewart went to.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Prison because she uh jammed up with an investigation of
her talking to her broker. And they say that she
lied about the conversation with the broker.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It wasn't even illegally, it wasn't insider trading.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Did she only.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Make like two hundred K? I mean, I'm not trying
to minimize. I think it was like Clay. I think
it was like thirty or forty k the trade. I
think it was a small trade. It was small.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It was she's a billionaire and a billion back, and
there were far fewer of them. She's a billionaire. There's
like thirty or forty grand and komy kmy was on
a quest send her, and everybody was like, this guy's
kind of a weirdo, like this has come out. Rudy
Giuliani told me this personally at the time. He was like, yeah,
when Comy was going after Martha Stewart, we were all like,
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what is this guy doing? But I want I wanted
to point out what he did to General Flynn. This
is a guy who served in the military for thirty years,
was DIA director and was going to be the National
Security Advisor, and Komy just.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Wanted to take him out.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Comy set a the FBI director, set a perjury trap
for the incoming National Security Advisor based on a non crime.
Let me tell you, if someone starts interrogating you and
you don't think you're being interrogated, and you get a yer,
get a lawyer, get a lawyer, get a lawyer, that's
really yeah. That was so diabolical was that they didn't
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even he didn't even really realize.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
What was going on.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean, this would be like, imagine two FBI guys
were talking about a case and one of them is like,
you know what, I think you lied to me.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm gonna bring charges against you.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's like, wait, we're on the same team, what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That was that was what This was like, this was
we're the executive branch FBI employees come to talk to
National Security Advisor in the White House for the explicit purpose,
the clear purpose of taking.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Comy thought it was funny. Comy thought it was you
hear he's Oh, they're all laughing. It's so great. They
took out General Finn.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Took out General Finn for what speaking to his counterparty
or in a sense, the ambassador of Russia saying, look,
we're coming in.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You know, let's talk this out. We come in. He
didn't do anything illegal.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The Logan Act, Clay, the Logan Act has been not
successfully prosecuted to completion once in two hundred years. Yeah,
and that's what he pulls.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Out to go.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And that's because the Logan I can apply to basically anything.
I'm going to Taiwan tomorrow. I'm I'm running my own
foreign policy. I mean, this is absurd, right, But if
i am, then thousands, tens of thousands of people in
DC are. So it's I want to everyone be reminded
that Comey's a bad guy, and Trump isn't exaggerating what
he says. This is a bad individual who is a
narcissistic freak and wanted to really harm people and abuse
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his power to do so. And so if he lied
under oath, he loves sending other people to prison for
lying under oath about the most minute things. If he
lied under oath, his ass should go to jail too,
full stop.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And those charges need to come soon or else you're
going to run into Statute of limitations related issues. We'll
get into some of this. We'll take some of your talkbacks. Buck,
get your pen. I got a winner for you tonight
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about this one. We've won two of the last three weeks.
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Speaker 4 (31:16):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Bunch of
you weighing in on a variety of different topics. We'll
hit some of those. This is let's see AA. I
think we've got AA. Where is the fire away?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Hi?
Speaker 10 (31:32):
This is Peggy from Devik, Connecticut. Listen to you on
w R. I am a Met fan, I'm a nerves
Met fan. But at least we have a chance with
the Wild Cart Clay Atlanta, what happened to your team?
Have a good day, guys, and thank you for a
wonderful show.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well that's a great call.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And the Braves fell apart, I think is the answer
my team, The Atlanta Braves fell apart. Mets are in
a battle to see whether or not they're gonna make
the playoffs. Buck the Yankees have made it. Let me
also say, while we're mentioning our wo R listeners, the
New Jersey governor race, which we're going to talk about
a little bit more, is going to be very very close.
Producer Ali has been attempting to get Jack Schittarell. I've
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never gonna be able to pronounce this guy's name correctly.
Maybe that's why he doesn't want to come on. Jack
chit Aurelly. All right, Jack Chitarelly, you guys need to
go vote for him. We want to get him on
so he can talk to all of you as there
is a big race. We had win some seers from
Virginia on that's a big race there. We got some
details on how the story is going there. New Jersey
(32:39):
is a big race too, and so we want to
get Jack chits Arelly on the program and I will
try to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Call him Jack C for a while, Jesse Jack six.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean, we're gonna get some FCC violations over me
trying to pronounce this guy's name. And by the way,
Chris is upset, No Mark is upset. Please stop saying
the assassins are writing slogans on the bullets they are
writing on the casings which are left behind after firing.
Love you guys, said Saterday. Yeah, and I thought it's
(33:12):
kind of understandable. The bullet is going into a body,
we're not seeing it there. Yes, okay, the casings. I
apologize for not being specific enough. The We posted the
photos and you can go check those out.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
When you mess up, when you mess up two A
lingo though, it's like it's like saying I love Alabama
War Eagle. You know what I mean, Like if a
few two A stuff. People are very specific about terminology.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I'm not an expert in that, so so my apology casings,
not bullets. Matt from Rapid City, South Dakota. He appreciates
you Buck taking a bullet for all of us when
it comes to Comvela's book BB.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Book Matt from Rapid City, South Dakota. And I just
want to say, appreciate your willingness to step out there
as a kamoologist. But you know the way you are
kind of falling on the sword for the team. Maybe
you're a Kamala Kazi. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
There you go, not very nice, very nice word, very
nice wordplay there from Matt. And I tried to read
more of the Kamala book last night, and how's it going?
I fell asleep like instantaneously. So I do a lot
of my reading at night before I go to bed,
and I just think that her it's so boring.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's so boring.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I really, I'm saying, I'm doing a service for all
of you. I'm trying to find the nuggets, and there
are not very many nuggets. It's a lot of a
lot of chaff, not a lot of.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Wheat, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
So if it's blandly, inoffensive and boring, which I think
it's fair to say the book is, doesn't that suggest
on some level that she's trying to preserve her political viability,
Because if she had just written a flamethrower of a
book and actually said a lot of interesting things, that
to me would feel like, hey, I'm done with this.
(35:00):
I'm going to ride off into the sunset. The political
world is not for me. But when she writes and
I'm thankfully I'm not reading it, But when she writes
such a boring book, does it make you feel like, hey,
maybe she wished she keep all the options open. I
think that her.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I think her plan is that she still wants to
keep that as a viable option.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I just think that she's going to see.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Those doors, that that that window narrowing. And I mean,
I think Gavin Newsom wants to wants to have a throwdown,
you know. I think he's gonna get It's gonna get
rougher and rougher as that gets closer.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Also, uh, we've got a caller in Long Island. I
believe let me hit him.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, sorry, call Yeah, Steven, Long Island. What you got
for us?
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Hey, guys, how you doing great? Shelley as usual. So
I just stre weighing on two things you guys been
talking about this morning. The first is the concept of
responsibility to you know, verbalize bad things. One of the
best indications I just fits like track. I know you're an.
Speaker 12 (36:02):
Attorney right inherit The winn, in my opinion, the best
lawyer movie ever, great courtroom drama about the Scopes Monkey
trial tried years ago. Clarence Darrow comes in, the best
defense attorney in the world, and the whole case was
about there was a statute that prevented teaching anything in
the classroom other than what was in the Bible. No,
(36:23):
And it's a young teacher played by actually a guy
that was in Bewitched ex Sergeant Young Teachers teaching this
classroom eight young guys about Darwin and he gets cited
in a local ordinance court, almost like the Andy Griffiths show,
that type of small town and the two best lawyers crusaders.
But saw I'd come down to try this case, and
Harry Morgan for mashes the judge, they said. The final
(36:45):
scene Spencer Tracy playing the courtroom figured out it was
supposed to be Clarence Darrow's arguing with the judge.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
We're why we're gonna lose him here as we fit,
as the hour, we'll talk to him.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
We come back
Oh, welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Thursday edition of Clay and Bought kicks off right now,
and let's just jump to it. We got in the
Oval office President Trump with the premiere of Turkey. He
is sitting down, they are talking, he is taking questions.
Let jump to it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Play it. Great friendship, President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
A few news items. Sorry, well, he said that the
right is a lot tougher than the left.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's true for sure.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
We'll give you some of the top sound bites and
some of the most important things from all of this
here coming up shortly. We've also got some news on
the economy. James Comy in the headlines once again because
of the possibility of charges against Komy before that five
(00:48):
year clock runs out on the Statute of Limitations. We've
got more updates also on the ice facility, that fatal
shooting that happened yesterday, discuss that Hillary Clinton is weighing
in on things, a whole range of things right now,
which we will share with you so we can pull
apart her preposterous arguments. And we've also got Washington Post
(01:14):
yesterday reporting that marked classified material was found in the
home of former Trump national security advisor Bolton. He's also
formerly a Fox News contributor, so a lot of you
have seen him on Fox. He's the guy with the
mustache he'd seen over many years. That's not good. If
that is accurate, he's in. If that reporting, i should say,
(01:35):
is accurate, that's going to be a very tough one
to explain to anyone. And he's not a former president.
There's no basis for him to have declassified anything. So
we can talk a little bit more about that. But
I just want to note I love when we can
take a moment for just some positive news. And here
is CNBC's Rick Santelli saying the look second quarter GDP
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even a little better than anticipated. Play clip one.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Now on the GDP side, this is our third time
around the block on Q two, and we see a
really solid revision three point eight percent. I'm a bit shocked,
to be honest. Usually the revisions as you get to
second and third become smaller and smaller. So three point
eight percent would be the best quarter going back to
and we have to go back aways here to four
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point four and that was the third quarter of twenty three. Now,
it is important to point out that if you look
at the first quarter, final down half of percent. There's
a balance there, but the balance is moving in favor
of Momentum is moving in.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Favor for better growth.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Clay looking pretty good still on the economy, and Trump
not getting much credit for it from the media for
obvious reasons. But if somebody had told me at the
start of his presidency, this is where the numbers would be,
and this is how the markets and also how rates
and inflation and everything would look at this point, it's
pretty darn good. I think the president should be happy,
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certainly with the progress so far we've seen in year one.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
No doubt, and we've got record basically high stock prices.
You've got overall inflation continuing to come down. The much
maligned impact of tariff seem to be nonexistent. All of
the experts are now buck as you watch, coming out
and saying, hey, well, we haven't seen the pricing impact
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that we thought from the tariff situation. The overall interest
rates are coming down, Jerown Powell is behind on being
able to do that, but we just got the quarter
point decline. There's a forecast of a couple of more
declines on interest rates and then going into next year.
So I would suspect that you're going to see fifteen
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and thirty year mortgages continue to come down, which is
going to help to free up you were talking I
think we were talking about this off air, the degree
to which the housing market has been just rosen to
a large extent, because look, if you were fortunate enough
to get one of those two and a half or
three percent mortgages, you don't want to move. And if
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you were unfortunate enough to buy and have a seven
percent mortgage, I'm telling you you're going to start to
see a lot of movement as those mortgage rates get
down to four and a half five percent and there
starts to be less of a major difference in potentially
moving selling homes. I think when the housing market just
kind of gets unlocked and it starts to move freely
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as is a more liquid asset class, I think you're
going to see a lot of rapid growth. But three
point eight percent growth is amazing. Look, there's two ways
to balance a budget. One is to essentially cut spending.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
In a massive way. That's what Doje was trying to do.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
There is I'm just going to tell you there is
no political will to massively cut spending. Democrats aren't going
to do it. Republic aren't going to do it. And
this is where I think Elon Musk is correct. So
how do you get about balancing the budget. You have
to grow the economy and you have to grow the
revenue that the growing economy is going to produce.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think that's where Elon now is saying, Hey, AI
is going to potentially be so transformative in what it
provides to the overall economy that we're just going to
have to grow our way to get past the ballooning
national deficits. Because people like things, and when you give
them things they do not want.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Santa Claus.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Santa Claus is very tough to compete with, getting free
goodies that you don't have to pay for over and
over again, and you know, people get very It's funny
too because everyone wants to cut It's like everyone's a
hero when it comes to the budget until you actually
talk about what has to be cut from the budget,
and then we have.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Some we have some big problem. All right. So this
is what I wanted to play before.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just wanted to know this was just said by
President Trump now just to set this up play. So
we've had the Charlie Kirk assassination, which we are all
still dealing with the trauma and the heartbreak of that. Honestly,
also the processing of how many lunatics are out there
(06:19):
who were celebrating such a horrific event is that's also
in a way its own trauma, I think as an American,
and much lesser than seeing what happened with Charlie. But
for a lot of people, it's made it's brought it
home to them as well, that there could be anybody
they know in their life or so that that would
celebrate such a horrific thing.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
There's that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
There's now the we'll have more details on this to
share with everybody, more reporting on it. But the guy
who killed he killed two migrants at the ice facility.
So this guy is anti ice, but he killed two
migrants being processed in an ice facility because he just
opened fire. So this, I mean, it's horrible no matter what.
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But also you just add, this person is such a
such a gross and evil individual that he killed. He's
upset about what's happening to migrants.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We killed two of them. It's clearly.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
ABI has released a couple of more data points on
that guy. We try to avoid naming these guys, so
I'm not going to do that. But he downloaded the
list of DHS facilities. This is according to libs of TikTok,
repeated searches on the Charlie Kirk shooting, tracked ICE agent
movements through apps and had a handwritten note saying, quote
(07:33):
hopefully this will give.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
ICE agents real terror.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
So anyone out there who is trying to argue that
this is anything other than yet another left wing shooter
motivated by left wing political arguments is being dishonest to you.
And again that is the absolute latest in terms of
the FBI investigation that they have reported.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So this is cut twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Trump spoke about I'm sorry, cut twenty six eighteen twenty eight,
Trump spoke about this left wing violence play. What are
you hold responsible for the up taking?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Left wing violence?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Radical left rhetoric, The radical left is causing the problem.
They're out of control, they're saying things, and they're really
dumb people. I mean, I look at Crockett, I look.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
At some of these people.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
They're very low IQ people actually. But the radical left
is causing this problem, not the right, the radical left,
and it's going to get worse, and ultimately it's going
to go back on them. I mean, bad things happen
when they play these games. And I'll give you a
little clue. The right is a lot tougher than the left.
But the right's not doing this. They're not doing it,
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and they better not get them energized because it won't
be good for the left. And I don't want to
see that happen either. I'm the president of all the people.
But the radical left is causing this radical left democrats
are causing this problem, and it gets worse, it gets worse,
and it'll be a point where other people won't take
it anymore, and that will.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Not be good for the radical left. So we don't
want that play.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I just appreciate that the President is saying it in
the most plain spoken, straightforward, no nonsense way possible. He's like,
the left is the problem, guys, the left are the
ones doing the violence. I just also wish that we
all could say, or we could just be reminded that
Davy Crockett, fantastic American icon, Crockett coffee, a delicious coffee.
(09:29):
When he's saying Crockett, he's referring to Congresswoman Crockett, who
is causing some brand some brand problems sometimes. But yes,
the left is the problem. The left is where the
violence is.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Another left wing violent incident that has been getting some
attention this morning, Buck that ties into what the President
was just saying. This is a Fox News alert. A
man's been arrested charged after allegedly making social media threats
against a Charlie Kirk vigil at the University of Texas,
San Antonio. This man allegedly suggested on social media he
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planned to use his truck to drive through and disrupt
the Charlie Kirk vigil. I mean, this is everywhere, and
it's happening in every state. And again, the gunman who
opened fire yesterday at the Dallas Ice facility has a
left written record that he wanted to provide real terror
(10:28):
for Ice agents and that he again, I mean, this
is just not.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
We We didn't even mention this either, because there's so
much of this stuff. A guy shot up in ABC
we have news affiliate. Yeah, And second, he was upset
about Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the air, so he
shot up an ABC News affiliate.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Jimmy Kimmel's back on the air.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I might add, and you're like, these people are such
maniacs that they're going to shoot at innocent people because
some guy was some millionaire jerk was taken off the
air for a couple of days, like he got a
free vacation out of it. How much more of this
you stack these things up? How much more of this
has to happen? That's all clearly politically aligned with Democrats,
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with the left, with the commis.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Before there's just no there's no argument, there's no debate anymore,
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I saw Megan Kelly Clay was at was at what
was it to Virginia Tech. I think it was a
speaking you know, as part of turning point now reaching
out and having people go to campuses to continue Charlie's work,
and some kid did the whole. The violence comes from
the right. The violence comes from the right. People are delusional.
They're being fed lies by the Democrat media and by
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the Democrat you know, think tanks and everything else and
the Democrat.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Party, and what they're being told is just absurd.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I mean, how can you make this, How can you
make this claim with a straight face?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Where is this right wing violence?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Or we're gonna have to hear about JA six again,
is that that that's the big terror, that's the worse
than nine to eleven. Remember they used to say that
is worse than nine to eleven. Yeah, worse than nine
to eleven, worse than Pearl Harbor, the worst thing that's
happened in the country since the Civil War. That's legitimately
what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris argued about January sixth.
I mean that was their direct talking point, worst thing
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that's happened in the country since the Civil War. I'm worried,
Clay that people are going to recognize more and more
that even if Democrats wanted to put this genie back
in the bottle, so to speak, even if they wanted
to close up Pandora's box with all the lies they
have told about the fascist republic aidents who were destroying
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democracy and all this stuff, I don't even think that
they could do this. I don't think they could turn
it off now, is my point. I think they have
unleashed this long enough on the American people that we
are going to have to continue to suffer through what
are just waves of domestic terrorism, plain and simple by
people who think because the new York Times and CNN
and Joe Biden and Kamala told them they think they're
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fighting fascism, and by fascism they mean Nazis. Like no
one's really going around like Trump is just like Mussolini.
It's Nazis. And the reason they want to compais some
the Nazis is so they feel justified in being violent
against us. It's very straightforward. It's insane, but it's straightforward.
The reason they say that is so they have an
excuse to kill us. Yeah, that's the simple truth. And
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the fact that they've done it for ten years. By
the way, I don't believe that any of the Democrat
leadership actually believes that argument, right, because if they did.
When Donald Trump got hit in the ear and when
another guy tried to kill him, they wouldn't have said, well,
we condemned that violence, right, If you truly thought Trump
was hitler, you should be honest and say, well, I
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wish they hadn't missed. They never say that because they
know it would play so poorly in the larger public.
But with their.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Deranged, lunatic base, I don't know what percentage of them,
but enough of them to kill Charlie Kirk, and enough
of them to kill Bill at the Dallas ice facility,
and enough of them to go to Brett Kavanaugh's house,
and enough of them to show up at the softball
baseball team practice and start firing away.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
There is a.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Deranged, lunatic fringe of the left that is acting on
what they believe that is true coming from the Democrat base.
Their arguments and buck they think they're heroes. You have
to go into these misguided soul's brains and think about
the way that they are motivating themselves. They're making it
clear why they're doing what they're doing. They're writing it
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on the bullets. They think they.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Are heroes for the actions that they are undertaking.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well, look at men Luigi whatever his name is, yes,
and how he there are leftists who think he is
a hero. He's got fans, he has fans everybody. This
guy murdered an American father, husband. It's a guy's doing
his job. You can say you don't like healthcare companies.
All you want murder somebody because they work at a
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healthcare company or they run a healthcare company. A lot
of leftists think that that was great, and they say
it online. They're insane. You don't see this on the right,
it's not to it. So Trump is correct hammer this point.
It is not a both sides thing. The problem is
on the left. The problem is with the Democrats, and
we have to face up to that as a country.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We were
just talking about the fact that President Trump had a
presser with the President Prime Minister of Turkey and he
was weighing in on a variety of different subjects. Here
he is, We talked about Bolton and will maybe die
into that in a little bit of detail during the
course of today's program the investigation There here he is
(17:05):
talking about Komy.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It seems like an adament of James komy is elements.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Would this be the first step and accountability for pushing
the hopes of Russia Russia Russia.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Along with Barack Obama involved as well.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Well, I can't tell you what's going to happen because
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
You have very professional people headed up by the Attorney
General and Todd Todd Blench and Lindsay Allaghan, who's very smart,
good lawyer, very good lawyer.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
They're going to make a determination.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I'm not making that determined. I think I'd be.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Allowed to get involved of it once, but I don't
really choose to do so. I can only say that
Kobe's a bad person. He's a sick person. I think
he's a sick guy. Actually he did terrible things at
the FBI. But I don't know. I have no idea
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Let's come back and talk about that Clay here in
a second. Komy and the possibility of charges. Look, you
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you colle and Buck And we were just talking a
moment ago before we should have brief caused there to
get into the comy situation. Now, let's be clear, nothing
has happened yet. There's a lot of discussion though a
(19:14):
lot of reporting that is indicating that someone thinks high
up the chain. There will be charges brought against James Commey,
the former FBI director, for.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Lying under oath.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And this may or may not happen, but there has
certainly been a lot of chatter about it, and there's
a lot of reporting suggesting that it is likely to happen,
And so Clay I thought that we should remind everybody
because I really always want to make sure that any
time someone has the possibility of their freedom being taken away,
(19:53):
even for a day, never mind for months or even years,
I always want to make sure that the person is
guilty of the crime and that it is a reasonable
punishment for the crime that they have committed. You know,
because if we start getting into third world banana republic
stuff of people, Oh you mean, like what they did
(20:14):
to Trump. Trust me, I know, we can't allow this
country to go down that pathway. Avoiding that does require
consequences for those who have been involved in trying to
do that. And if they broke the law, if you
broke the law, trying to use the law as a
weapon against people in politics, law is the law, right,
(20:38):
that's where we're all supposed to be on this. That's
the only Without that, we have nothing right. Without that,
everything just starts to become pure power stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And Clay, this is a throw This is a.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Throwback flashback December of twenty eighteen at the Well in
New York City, James Comy talking to Cole Wallace. I
want everyone to hear this exchange before we to be
reminded of who this guy, James Comy really is, because
I think this encapsulates it really well.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Play three.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Look at this White House now, and it's hard to
imagine two FBI agents sending up in the sit room.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
How did that happen?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I sent them something I probably wouldn't have done or
maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, more
organized administration in the George W. Bush administration, for example,
or the Obama administration. The protocol two men that all
of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last
(21:36):
two years. And in both of those administrations there was process.
And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into
the White House itself to interview a senior official, you
would work through the White House Council and there'd be
discussions and approvals and who would be there. And I
(21:56):
thought it's early enough, let's just send a couple of
guys over.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Played, and so.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
We placed to call to Flynn said, Hey, we're sending
a couple of guys over. I hope you'll talk to them.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
He said, sure.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Nobody else was there. They interviewed him in a conference
room at the White House Situation Room, and he lied
to them. And that's what he's now played guilty to.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
What did he think they were coming over there for.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
I don't think he knew. I know we didn't tell him.
Just so, we've got a couple sending over, a couple
of agents. I want to ask you some questions. I
didn't have this conversation. My deputy director did, but I
hope you got a few minutes you can sit down
and talk to them. And he said sure.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I just want to say this lay before we get
into some of the specifics. If Coleby broke the law,
he should face the full consequences of a law. He's
a scumbag, and I hope he spends years in prison
if he broke the law. And there are people who
seem to think that he did. Did you hear I mean,
when you listen to what this guy did to General Flynn,
they used the Law Logan Act as a pretext to
send FBI agents to the incoming National Security Advisor's office
(23:07):
to just have a conversation. He thought they were probably
just welcoming him to the new administration. And then they claim,
with no proof other than their word against his that
he lied about non illegal activity that he was completely
justified in doing and they only did this because they
on mass phone calls abusing Pfizer in the process.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This is also where the Statute of limitations play in.
And I know we've talked about this statute of limitations
issue on a lot of these cases, and I know
people roll their eyes and they try to say, well,
it's an ongoing conspiracy and all these things. The COMI charges,
based on my reading statute of limitations related buck must
(23:51):
happen almost immediately. In other words, they're going to be
able to argue, hey, that Statute of Limitations has told
we are no longer able to be charged under these auspices.
And given that we know many federal district court judges,
the people who were likely be assigned these cases are
(24:12):
not going to be favorably disposed to the Trump administration.
You've got to have everything lined up when you bring
these charges, and you've got to get it done well.
And we haven't even talked about this, but but I
think we probably should have. There are tons. I think
it's like seven or eight different individuals that the DC
Grand Jury has refused to indict for blatant crimes during
(24:37):
the Trump crime surge to try to bring down crime
in DC. The grand jury has just said, for instance,
the guy who threw the sandwich at the cop, it's
on video, blatant he did it. They just said, yeah,
we're not indicting for this. So the politics of DC
(24:57):
when it comes to getting people indicted, even when you
have evidence on video of crimes being committed, some of
the grand jury members are just like, nah, I kind
of agree with what they did. I'm not going to
agree to charges here being evil. Absolutely, it's very political.
But I wanted everyone to hear what a sanctimonious scumbag
(25:18):
Comy is. It's call him sankt to Comy Clay back
in the day. He's a bad dude. He's always been
a bad dude. He's slithered from one administration to another
within the bureaucracy, and somehow always ended up, you know,
elevating himself. And he's the guy who, over the objections
of fellow prosecutors, wanted Martha Stewart to go to prison
(25:44):
just because he wanted to make a name for himself.
Martha Stewart worth reminding everybody serve time in prison. Okay,
the lady who's like, you know, here's how to make
the most delicious summer salad. And you know, you all
know Martha Stewart went to.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Prison because she uh jammed up with an investigation of
her talking to her broker. And they say that she
lied about the conversation with the broker.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It wasn't even illegally, it wasn't insider trading.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Did she only.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Make like two hundred K? I mean, I'm not trying
to minimize. I think it was like Clay. I think
it was like thirty or forty k the trade. I
think it was a small trade. It was small.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It was she's a billionaire and a billion back, and
there were far fewer of them. She's a billionaire. There's
like thirty or forty grand and komy kmy was on
a quest send her, and everybody was like, this guy's
kind of a weirdo, like this has come out. Rudy
Giuliani told me this personally at the time. He was like, yeah,
when Comy was going after Martha Stewart, we were all like,
(26:43):
what is this guy doing? But I want I wanted
to point out what he did to General Flynn. This
is a guy who served in the military for thirty years,
was DIA director and was going to be the National
Security Advisor, and Komy just.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Wanted to take him out.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Comy set a the FBI director, set a perjury trap
for the incoming National Security Advisor based on a non crime.
Let me tell you, if someone starts interrogating you and
you don't think you're being interrogated, and you get a yer,
get a lawyer, get a lawyer, get a lawyer, that's
really yeah. That was so diabolical was that they didn't
(27:22):
even he didn't even really realize.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
What was going on.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean, this would be like, imagine two FBI guys
were talking about a case and one of them is like,
you know what, I think you lied to me.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm gonna bring charges against you.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's like, wait, we're on the same team, what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That was that was what This was like, this was
we're the executive branch FBI employees come to talk to
National Security Advisor in the White House for the explicit purpose,
the clear purpose of taking.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Comy thought it was funny. Comy thought it was you
hear he's Oh, they're all laughing. It's so great. They
took out General Finn.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Took out General Finn for what speaking to his counterparty
or in a sense, the ambassador of Russia saying, look,
we're coming in.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You know, let's talk this out. We come in. He
didn't do anything illegal.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The Logan Act, Clay, the Logan Act has been not
successfully prosecuted to completion once in two hundred years. Yeah,
and that's what he pulls.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Out to go.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
And that's because the Logan I can apply to basically anything.
I'm going to Taiwan tomorrow. I'm I'm running my own
foreign policy. I mean, this is absurd, right, But if
i am, then thousands, tens of thousands of people in
DC are. So it's I want to everyone be reminded
that Comey's a bad guy, and Trump isn't exaggerating what
he says. This is a bad individual who is a
narcissistic freak and wanted to really harm people and abuse
(28:38):
his power to do so. And so if he lied
under oath, he loves sending other people to prison for
lying under oath about the most minute things. If he
lied under oath, his ass should go to jail too,
full stop.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And those charges need to come soon or else you're
going to run into Statute of limitations related issues. We'll
get into some of this. We'll take some of your talkbacks. Buck,
get your pen. I got a winner for you tonight
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about this one. We've won two of the last three weeks.
First of all, we've got a guaranteed winter square. Jalen
Hurts is going to throw for more than one half
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All right, here are the two more. Kyler Murray, Arizona
quarterback tonight is going to throw more than one half
(29:56):
passing touchdowns. That means he needs to have one passing
touchdown passing Sam Donald more than one half passing touchdown
as well. If I am correct, and I think I'm
going to be correct, all three of these hit it
pays out at two and a half to one. So
if Kyler Murray throws a touchdown pass tonight, and if
(30:17):
Sam Donald throws a touchdown pass tonight, and we take
our free score square with Jalen Hurts, we're gonna win tonight.
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Speaker 4 (31:16):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Bunch of
you weighing in on a variety of different topics. We'll
hit some of those. This is let's see AA. I
think we've got AA. Where is the fire away?
Speaker 9 (31:31):
Hi?
Speaker 10 (31:32):
This is Peggy from Devik, Connecticut. Listen to you on
w R. I am a Met fan, I'm a nerves
Met fan. But at least we have a chance with
the Wild Cart Clay Atlanta, what happened to your team?
Have a good day, guys, and thank you for a
wonderful show.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well that's a great call.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
And the Braves fell apart, I think is the answer
my team, The Atlanta Braves fell apart. Mets are in
a battle to see whether or not they're gonna make
the playoffs. Buck the Yankees have made it. Let me
also say, while we're mentioning our wo R listeners, the
New Jersey governor race, which we're going to talk about
a little bit more, is going to be very very close.
Producer Ali has been attempting to get Jack Schittarell. I've
(32:18):
never gonna be able to pronounce this guy's name correctly.
Maybe that's why he doesn't want to come on. Jack
chit Aurelly. All right, Jack Chitarelly, you guys need to
go vote for him. We want to get him on
so he can talk to all of you as there
is a big race. We had win some seers from
Virginia on that's a big race there. We got some
details on how the story is going there. New Jersey
(32:39):
is a big race too, and so we want to
get Jack chits Arelly on the program and I will
try to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Call him Jack C for a while, Jesse Jack six.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I mean, we're gonna get some FCC violations over me
trying to pronounce this guy's name. And by the way,
Chris is upset, No Mark is upset. Please stop saying
the assassins are writing slogans on the bullets they are
writing on the casings which are left behind after firing.
Love you guys, said Saterday. Yeah, and I thought it's
(33:12):
kind of understandable. The bullet is going into a body,
we're not seeing it there. Yes, okay, the casings. I
apologize for not being specific enough. The We posted the
photos and you can go check those out.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
When you mess up, when you mess up two A
lingo though, it's like it's like saying I love Alabama
War Eagle. You know what I mean, Like if a
few two A stuff. People are very specific about terminology.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I'm not an expert in that, so so my apology casings,
not bullets. Matt from Rapid City, South Dakota. He appreciates
you Buck taking a bullet for all of us when
it comes to Comvela's book BB.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Book Matt from Rapid City, South Dakota. And I just
want to say, appreciate your willingness to step out there
as a kamoologist. But you know the way you are
kind of falling on the sword for the team. Maybe
you're a Kamala Kazi. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
There you go, not very nice, very nice word, very
nice wordplay there from Matt. And I tried to read
more of the Kamala book last night, and how's it going?
I fell asleep like instantaneously. So I do a lot
of my reading at night before I go to bed,
and I just think that her it's so boring.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's so boring.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I really, I'm saying, I'm doing a service for all
of you. I'm trying to find the nuggets, and there
are not very many nuggets. It's a lot of a
lot of chaff, not a lot of.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Wheat, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
So if it's blandly, inoffensive and boring, which I think
it's fair to say the book is, doesn't that suggest
on some level that she's trying to preserve her political viability,
Because if she had just written a flamethrower of a
book and actually said a lot of interesting things, that
to me would feel like, hey, I'm done with this.
(35:00):
I'm going to ride off into the sunset. The political
world is not for me. But when she writes and
I'm thankfully I'm not reading it, But when she writes
such a boring book, does it make you feel like, hey,
maybe she wished she keep all the options open. I
think that her.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I think her plan is that she still wants to
keep that as a viable option.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
I just think that she's going to see.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Those doors, that that that window narrowing. And I mean,
I think Gavin Newsom wants to wants to have a throwdown,
you know. I think he's gonna get It's gonna get
rougher and rougher as that gets closer.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Also, uh, we've got a caller in Long Island. I
believe let me hit him.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, sorry, call Yeah, Steven, Long Island. What you got
for us?
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Hey, guys, how you doing great? Shelley as usual. So
I just stre weighing on two things you guys been
talking about this morning. The first is the concept of
responsibility to you know, verbalize bad things. One of the
best indications I just fits like track. I know you're an.
Speaker 12 (36:02):
Attorney right inherit The winn, in my opinion, the best
lawyer movie ever, great courtroom drama about the Scopes Monkey
trial tried years ago. Clarence Darrow comes in, the best
defense attorney in the world, and the whole case was
about there was a statute that prevented teaching anything in
the classroom other than what was in the Bible. No,
(36:23):
And it's a young teacher played by actually a guy
that was in Bewitched ex Sergeant Young Teachers teaching this
classroom eight young guys about Darwin and he gets cited
in a local ordinance court, almost like the Andy Griffiths show,
that type of small town and the two best lawyers crusaders.
But saw I'd come down to try this case, and
Harry Morgan for mashes the judge, they said. The final
(36:45):
scene Spencer Tracy playing the courtroom figured out it was
supposed to be Clarence Darrow's arguing with the judge.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
We're why we're gonna lose him here as we fit,
as the hour, we'll talk to him.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
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