July 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into breaking news and political analysis, beginning with the shocking report of wrestling icon Hulk Hogan’s death at age 71. Clay reflects on Hogan’s cultural impact during the 1980s and 1990s, his recent appearance at the Republican National Convention, and his vocal support for President Donald Trump. The hour opens with a tribute to Hogan’s legacy in sports entertainment and American pop culture.
The episode then transitions into a deep-dive breakdown of the Russiagate scandal, prompted by listener feedback requesting clarity on the complex narrative. Clay outlines the origins of the Russia collusion narrative following Trump’s 2016 election victory, emphasizing how the media, intelligence community, and Democratic establishment allegedly collaborated to delegitimize Trump’s presidency. He argues that the narrative was built on misinformation and politically motivated leaks, leading to years of investigations that ultimately found no evidence of collusion.
Clay also discusses the Supreme Court’s 2024 ruling on presidential immunity, suggesting it could shield former President Barack Obama from potential legal consequences related to the 2016 surveillance of the Trump campaign. He explores the implications of this precedent for future administrations and how it may influence accountability for figures like James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, and Hillary Clinton.
Listeners call in to ask about potential charges against Obama, Clinton, and members of the intelligence community. Clay explains the legal challenges of proving intent and the difficulty of prosecuting media outlets or political operatives for spreading what he describes as discredited information. He also critiques the media’s role in amplifying the Steele dossier and other unverified claims, calling for the return of Pulitzer Prizes awarded for Russiagate coverage.
The hour concludes with a broader historical perspective on the political nature of intelligence agencies, referencing past surveillance of figures like Martin Luther King Jr. and John F. Kennedy. Clay warns listeners to remain skeptical of narratives shaped by unelected bureaucracies and emphasizes the importance of transparency and accountability in government.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in the Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Bucks out
the rest of the week. You'll have me solo as
we roll through all of the major breaking news stories
and right off the top. I think Buck would have
been just as sad about this news as I am
for any of us, particularly that grew up in the
(00:23):
eighties and the nineties. Malcolm Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show,
THEO dying earlier this week, but just in the last
thirty minutes or so, TMZ reports that Hulk Hogan, seventy
one year old wrestling superstar who was at the RNC
(00:45):
last year about this time endorsing President Trump, has died again,
age of seventy one. If you are of the age
as I know many of you are, who grew up
in the nineteen eighties watching wrestling, or if you had
kids that loved wrestling, maybe you did, maybe you were
(01:09):
a big Hulk maniac back in the nineteen eighties, in
the nineteen nineties. I don't think there are very many
people that were more famous in America in the eighties
and the nineties than Hulk Cogan, seventy one years old.
I want to play a couple of cuts of hul
Cogan again. The news just coming down. Hul Cogan dies
(01:31):
at seventy one years old. Here he was last year.
We played some of these cuts for you. Very funny
for those of you who remember the speech. Cut twenty
six Hulk Cogan at the RNC in Milwaukee last year
about this time.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What Chiggarna do when Donald Tuff and all the top
of maniacs run wild on you? Brother?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Also cut twenty seven. Here, Remember he ripped his shirt
off in vintage Hulk Cogan fashion. He seemed very good
last year. Reports are early again that he had a
heart attack at seventy one years old. A lot of
those wrestlers, what they put their bodies through, have not
had very long lives, as many of you know. Here
(02:20):
is cut twenty seven Hulk Cogan ripping his shirt off
on the RNC stage. This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
What happened last week when they took a shot and
my hero and they tried to kill the next president
of the United States. Enough blaw was enough, said, look
chupa media run wild, brother, Let chop.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
O media rule again.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Let topa media night amaca right again.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And that was an incredible turn on the stage. Now
I know about that. My boys are big wrestling fans,
and I know probably a lot of you out there
listening are as well. The WWE back in the day
was the WWF brought Hulk Hogan back in in relatively speaking,
a warm embrace after scandal had pushed him away for
(03:26):
some time, and he appeared on I believe the most
recently most recent WrestleMania and on several different of their events.
So look, if you want to talk back, I imagine
that there are a lot of you out there hearing
this news that want to react. If you've got a
(03:47):
favorite moment from the Hulksters era, you can talk back.
We'll play some of those. I would imagine that this
is something that is hitting a lot of people out
there who grew up, like I said, in the eighties
and nineties with Hulk Cogan as famous just about as
any sports entertainer media personality. Frankly, however, you want to
(04:10):
classify him as almost anyone out there, and obviously a
huge Donald Trump supporter and an iconic American original, I
mean truly one of the most only in America, as
Don King used to like to say, but truly only
(04:32):
in America. I don't know that there are figures like
hul Cogan, who certainly had tremendous global appeal and would
have been one of the most recognizable people I think
anywhere in the United States for sure, even for people
that did not care much about wrestling. He was just
an absolute icon. So that news coming down sad news.
(04:53):
Ozzy Osbourne for those of you who are rock fans,
and Malcolm Jamal Warner if you grew up in the
nineteen eighties, nineteen seventies, nineteen nineties, those are three different
icons that may well have characterized some of your youth, Okay,
So I wanted to share all that with you. Off
the top. I got a text message this morning. I
(05:17):
was getting ready for the show and friend of the show.
We've had him on the show, Alexi Lawless, one of
the best American men's soccer players of his era and
a American soccer analyst. A lot of you know him,
big fan of the show. Awesome guy. He said, hey,
I was listening. He listens every day, and he said
(05:38):
I was listening yesterday and I think, hey, man, I
speak for a lot of people. The Russia Gate story
is just it's a big mess, and the way it's
being covered, it's hard to even understand. Can you give
us a sense, just distill why it matters, take us
through it, I think. And he was speaking on behalf
(05:59):
of not only AM, but a lot of other listeners
who say, I just think this is super complicated and confusing.
So I took that to heart and I got out.
For those of you who watch us on YouTube, go subscribe.
We're over ninety thousand subscribers. Now I want us over
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on YouTube, this is how I do the show. I
am holding up for you right now a yellow legal
(06:21):
pad and I basically just I'll sit here with a
pin in my hand, and I jot down bullet points
that I think are important to characterize what exactly a
story is, just a little a note so that so
that I know where I'm going. And this morning, right
before the show, I took Alexi's comments to heart, and
(06:43):
I just jotted down a flow chart that I think
will simplify in the minds of people out there that
are somewhat confused over what happened with Russia Gate. I
also want to open up phone lines eight hundred two
two two eight eight two ask questions. There's nothing wrong
with not knowing the answer to a question. A lot
(07:05):
of people have opinions, but I think very often the
foundational knowledge is very important because it will allow you
to have more intelligent opinions than you otherwise might. So
let's go back in time. Let's go back in time
to twenty sixteen, to the election night. Hillary Clinton is
an overwhelming favorite to win the election. According to all
(07:28):
of the quote unquote experts. I remember sitting, as you
probably remember sitting, watching all those election results come in
and seeing what was effectively a cataclysm for the media.
All of their predictions, all of their expertise, all of
their polls, they were all one hundred percent wrong. And
(07:50):
not only were they one hundred percent wrong, but Trump
didn't just win. He won what it would have to
be characterized in many ways as a landslide victory out
of nowhere. One states that they said he had no
chance of winning Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, states that he would
win again in twenty twenty four, but in twenty sixteen,
they didn't see it coming at all, and so in
(08:12):
the immediate aftermath of Trump's win, the media and the
intelligencia and the entire Democrat establishment had two paths they
could have taken. One. They could have said, Hey, maybe
this guy Donald Trump is a much better politician than
we thought he was, and maybe Hillary Clinton is a
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much worse politician than we thought she was. And they
could have gone through all of the returns and they
could have come up with a game plan to try
to beat Trump in twenty twenty that acknowledged the significance
of his win and also gave credit to him for
being an elite politician. They didn't do that. Instead, they
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went back and they said, they're there's no way this
result could have happened, and happened in a legal manner.
In other words, Trump had to have cheated. What are
we missing? Everybody said Hillary was going to win. What
are we missing? What happened to make Trump win? And
(09:19):
instead of saying Hillary was a bad candidate, Hillary didn't
campaign in the States she should have. Hillary used her
resources poorly. She was a thoroughly unlikable person to many,
even Obama voters. Remember, Obama came out of nowhere to
beat Hillary way back in two thousand and eight, despite
the fact that Hillary had all of the advantages. What
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was it that happened? They decided it had to be
something outside the bounds of normalcy. There had to be
cheating going on. Trump cheated, And I believe what happened
was that message was conveyed to the intelligence community, which
also was stunned beyond belief that Trump could win, and
so they came up with the idea that Russia put
(10:06):
its finger on the scale, and the story became manufactured narrative,
the reason Trump won was Russia. And they even moved
beyond Trump one because of Russia. To Trump is and
was a Russian agent. He is effectively the Manchurian candidate.
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They took that manufactured evidence that they had created in
the intelligence communities out to the Washington Post, the New
York Times, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and they all
uncritically took that expert intelligence information and trumpeted it as
(10:50):
news and said Trump cheated. All of this was the
product of Russia's interference in our election. And they did
it by saying Russia hacked the election. And many people
out there in the media, in the Democrat Party, you
can say they're one and the same, decided to immediately
(11:11):
put Trump under siege because the idea from the get
go was that he was an illegitimate president. They couldn't
accept that Hillary lost. Again, this was the original sin.
They had two paths. Hillary just lost. She was a
bad candidate. Trump was better than we thought. That is
(11:31):
I think indisputably true. Instead, they said they had to
have cheated. Let's delegitimize Trump. Right at the outset, they
made the calculated decision, Hey, this is the path we're
going to take. And here is where Buck, we'll talk
about this, because I don't think the story is going away.
We'll talk about this with Buck when you come back
(11:51):
on Monday. I think he would sign on to this.
The intelligence agencies are so big that if you want
to find a story to tell in side of that
intelligence agency, there's somebody with data points that will allow
you to tell the story that you want to tell uncritically.
The Washington Post, New York Times, ABCNBCCBSC, and MSNBC. They
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all ran with Russia and Trump cheated. That's why they
won the election. If you asked any questions about that,
oh you were complicit as well. Maybe Russia was paying
you all of that. Then leads to basically the entire
Trump one point zero regime being under siege from the
(12:34):
moment they came into office. Attorney General won't end it, says, hey,
we've got to have a special counsel to investigate all
this Russia collusion. Muller comes in, spends years investigating. Eventually,
what does he come out and say, there's no evidence
of collusion effectively, but it took years. That also, when
(12:57):
we come back, I want to talk about this, it
was just twenty sixteen. All of this also set the
table for what I think was the ultimate rig job
of twenty twenty when, because they had set the idea
that Trump was Putin's stooge, that Trump was working for Russia.
When the one hundred percent legitimate Hunter Biden laptop, which
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indicated so much wrongdoing by the Biden family, when that
was in FBI possession, they decided to say the fifty
one intelligence agents that it had all the hallmarks of
Russian disinformation. They then sold an additional Russia lie. The
idea from the outset was clear Trump is a Russian stooge.
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Trump is controlled by Putin. The only way he could
have won in twenty sixteen was by Russian interference was
all a lie, And what Tulsea was talking about yesterday
was that even the intelligence agencies themselves did not have
the evidence to support the lies that they helped to propagate.
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That's why all this is significant eight hundred and two
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Now a
lot of you weighing in with your own Russia Gate questions.
And another aspect of this that's important is all of
the people that told you that Trump was a Russian agent,
all of them that told you that Russia tried and
(15:53):
basically did succeed in hacking the twenty sixteen election, all
of them are now telling you, oh, there's nothing to
what Tulca Gabbard said yesterday. They gave each other Pulitzer prizes.
The New York Times in the Washington Post haven't returned
those Pulitzer prizes that they got for one hundred percent
(16:15):
artificial fake news. At a bare minimum, if they wanted
to acknowledge their complicity in spreading all of these Russian
hoax lies, they would return the Pulitzers that they got
for information that was one hundred percent not true. But
in order to do that, they would have to tell
(16:37):
their audiences, Hey, all those things we told you for
years about Trump being a Russian agent and how Russia
rigged the twenty sixteen election with their Facebook ad buys
and their email hacks of Hillary Clinton, all of that, well,
it didn't actually change the outcome in any way, and
(16:59):
it turns out Trump one fair and square in twenty sixteen.
If they did that, they would have to return all
the Pulitzer prizes. They would have to acknowledge that they
covered a fundamental lie for four years. And so they're
not going to do it. They're going to tell you
I was reading the newspapers this morning. Buried on page
(17:20):
A twenty of the New York Times is the Tulsa
Gabbard revelations. CNN we played that audio for you yesterday.
As soon as she started to lay the case out,
they cut her mic and went back to the studio
and said, hey, we're not going to cover this. Lots
of people out there who vote Democrat still believe that
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Trump is a Russian asset. They've even tried to play
that same narrative again in twenty twenty four. Anytime Trump
has been remotely remotely conciliatory in any way towards Putin
as a part of trying to get a ceasefire in Europe,
I'm gonna talk about this more why it matters, but
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hanging out with us. A lot of people with questions
that want to weigh in on the Russia Gates story
that started yesterday. So I laid out why I think
(19:10):
it was such a significant story, why the people that
helped to spread it are unlikely to acknowledge, hey, we
got this all wrong, and how it completely attacked Trump
one point zero and threw them off kilter from the
moment they came into the White House. And I think
Trump has summed it up very well by saying, in
the first term, I was the hunted, now I'm the hunter.
(19:34):
And to be fair, there has been no suggestion hardly
at all that the twenty twenty four election was anything
other than a landslide triumph of an epic nature by Trump.
So that now Trump's intense and significant political talents are
basically acknowledged. And I've told you and I am one
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hundred percent confident that this is going to happen, and
some of you are going to tell me that I'm crazy.
But by the time we get into twenty twenty seven,
that is after the midterms next year, when everybody who's
running for the Democrat nomination, when everybody's running for the
Republican nomination, all of the Democrats are going to come
out and say, well, Republicans are never going to be
(20:17):
able to repeat what they had during the Trump era.
They're going to go from he was hitler to he
was the most uniquely talented politician in America since Ronald Reagan,
almost overnight. Prepare yourself for that, because they will shift
their narrative on a dime. Okay, Now, the question is
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that I think is integral. That's why Russiagate matters. Tulsi
laid it out, I thought, articulately, brilliantly, clearly, and I
would encourage you to go listen to her ten minute
run through of all of the evidence that was marshaled
from inside of the intelligence agencies. The other thing is
Trump didn't have his people at the intelligence agencies in
(21:03):
the first term, and I think he learned how important
that is. That's why cash Ptel at the top of
the FBI matters, That's why Tulci Gabbert at the top
of the DNI matters. That's why Dan Bongino is Deputy
director of the FBI matters. And I understand she has
been under fire quite a lot related to Epstein, and
(21:23):
we may talk about that a bit during the course
of today's show, depending on how the Department of Justice
conversation with Julane Maxwell, which is schedule to take place
today actually goes. But uh, Pambondi, these are all people
that Trump has faith in, that he believes will have
(21:44):
his back, and that are finally going through all of
these internal documents and pointing out the fallacies that are involved.
Now a lot of you are asking questions eight hundred
and two two two eight eight two, and we are
now going to go through those in order right now.
And let's start with Josh in New Jersey. What you
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got for me?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
How are you great? Appreciate you calling.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah, thank you for having me on your show. So
even if the DOJ is able to lay out a
very strong case, I'm just wondering if the past Supreme
Court case that was ruled the davor of Trump in
twenty four that gives presumptive immunity for any acts of
the president within their scope, within their purview, I mean,
won't that work in obama savor. So even if you
(22:33):
have the strongest case, it's unlikely anything will really stick
because he has presumptive immunity.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Thank you, And I think this is the irony. The
best defense that Barack Obama twenty sixteen has is the six'
to Three Supreme court decision That trump, won establishing basically
criminal immunity for any president for activities within the scope
(22:59):
of his presidential. Powers and, honestly this is why there
are going to be people out there who make a
lot of money telling You Barack obama is going to
go to prison for this in twenty. Sixteen just, WAIT
i don't think that's, true BECAUSE i actually think the
very first Argument obama will, make despite the fact that
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they told you it was a Fascist Supreme, Court and
this is how dictatorships. Happen the very first precedent That
Barack obama's, defense if he were charged in this, case
would point to is they would Say trump was protected
from criminal charges for everything he did to investigate the
twenty twenty. Election everything That obama did to investigate the
(23:43):
twenty sixteen election is also. Protected i'm just telling you
that is what every criminal defense attorney would go. To
and if you go back and listen to the tape
on this, SHOW i, said the reason the criticisms of
The Supreme court six' to three Decision on trump are
so so unfair is because that precedent is going to
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apply for every president that's still, Alive Today, Bill CLINTON. George,
W Bush, barack obama and every president that's still alive in,
the future whoever those, may Be And president. Trump today,
so yes IT'S why i think the odds you could.
Bring CHARGES but i think the number one Defense For
(24:25):
barack obama will be look at what you just ruled
for the charges related To the trump twenty twenty investigation into.
The Election all obama was doing is the same thing in,
twenty SIXTEEN and i think that there would be. NO
way i Think the supreme court would look at it, and,
say yeah this is within his. Presidential powers there's no
criminal charges that can be brought. On it THAT'S what.
(24:46):
I think, Good question Jason In. New hampshire what you got?
For me.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
We could possibly even be able to tie in the
legacy media and even also like all The politician democrats
as co conspirators because they were complicit in pushing The
Whole Trump russia. GATE stuff i was just wondering what
you thought, about that because, you know, if.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah you got cut off a little bit there at.
The FRONT but i think you're asking about sort of
criminal conspiracy charges involving media and the people who fed
them this information given the fact that it's now been.
Discredited again. Smart QUESTION how i would analyze that is.
THIS way i believe the charges would have to be
based on sharing classified information to media Because and i'm
(25:40):
not trying to be their criminal, defense attorneys but your
average reporter At The washington post Or The New york TIMES, OR, ABC, NBCCBS,
msnbc cnn they're not actually, that smart and all they're
doing is writing on the information that's being provided to
them from inside the. Intelligence agencies they don't get access
(26:04):
to the, wide variety the huge spectrum of different opinions
that might be originating from inside of the. Intelligence agencies
they are only writing on what they're. Being given so,
to me the most likely charges here that would be
able to stick are sharing classified information with. The media
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the challenge there is. PROVING it i think proving that
the media knew that this information was not true at
the time that they published it is hard. TO do
i think proving that they know it's not true now
is very easy, to do which Is why i'm saying
the absolute bare minimum they should do is Pull these.
Pulitzer prizes Jim In. North carolina what, you, got?
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Hi guys so comment and then. Quick, QUESTION so i
don't think they have any shot whatsoever it being successful
in bringing any charges Against. AN obama i do think
there's a much better Chance, For camy Brenner. And, clapper
however and my question to you guys is What? About
hillary any chance at anything being brought?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Against?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
HER yeah i think this is the challenge with figuring
out exactly what her campaign did to Fund the. STEEL
dossier i think that's probably the best way that you
could Go. After HILLARY and i don't disagree, with you by,
the Way About brennan clapper and all of these. Intelligence
guys i'm telling you what their defense is going to,
(27:35):
be is we had all, this information we had all these.
Different reports we're just trying to figure out what we
think is the most likely and so they're, gonna, say
hey we all we did was try together as much
intel as we could analyze it to the best of.
Our ability we don't have perfect vision on the Decisions
that russia is trying. To make we're trying to put
(27:58):
that puzzle together without all of those, pieces there and
so proving intent is always one of the most challenging
aspects of any. Criminal CHARGE so i Think what hillary
knew and when she knew it is again integral to
potential charges. As WELL and i just think it's going
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to be very hard to go after anybody for doing
anything other than leaking. INTELLIGENCE information i Think the hillary
campaign and this IS what i think a lot of you,
see now and it's why it's so. Incredibly Dirty if
hillary's campaign had wanted to come out and they, had,
said hey we Think That donald trump Is a, russian
(28:45):
asset because we've been told that there is a tape
from a high end from a high end Hotel that
russia Has of trump and it's compromising information and they're
going to use it. Against him if they had come
out and directly, SAID that i think that would be
different than what they tried, to do which is get
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the information and then get the media to write about
it so they can cite the media's reporting instead of
putting it. Out themselves and this is kind of the
dark arts of politics. In, general usually how do you
think the media ends up with the nasty divorce details
of a somebody running, for office or their battleover child,
(29:30):
support payments or what happened with some business that didn't
go well and they went bankrupt. With it that's all
counter intelligence that is collected by the campaign running against,
the candidate but instead of putting it, out themselves which
would actually be at least. Somewhat, honest hey you can't
trust that guy because he went bankrupt because he didn't pay,
(29:53):
child support because all, these things they get the media
to write, the story but they are handing the media
all the information that allows the media to write. The
story it's actually, super dirty, super dirty and basically all
they're doing is laundering the story that they want to
tell and having the media tell it, for them and
(30:15):
then they. Point back once you, see it you can't not.
See it they point back and, they, say hey Look
To washington post. Reported, this Hey The New york times. Reported,
this yeah because you handed them that, intel guys look up.
This story do you know do you remember where The
Whole stormy daniels. Story started my recollection is that Somebody
(30:40):
from hillary's campaign confirm that this. Is, correct guys that
Someone from hillary's campaign Met A Wall street journal reporter
in a public like a park and just handed them
printed off stories that they were just handing to them
(31:02):
to try to get them to write About The stormy.
Daniels case that's my recollection for how. IT happened, i
mean it's actually these campaigns are basically intelligence. Agencies THEMSELVES
and i think one of, the lessons, and look this
has always been my Thing because i'm a, history nerd
one of the lessons that people just don't really spend
enough time on is intelligence agencies are. Always political they've always.
(31:28):
Been political they just released a bunch OF the. Mlk
Files J edgar hoover Wire Tapped Martin luther king's hotel
rooms back in the day and recorded him having sex.
With hookers they spied ON EVERYBODY. Ourfk jfk when people
(31:53):
come out now and, THEY'RE like i don't know how
you don't TRUST, The fbi, i'm like have you ever
read history OUR. Own fbi look At What jaeggar. Hoover
did he had compromising information on every famous person in
political office for. Forty years and you think that's just.
(32:14):
Now stopped you think that somebody waved a magic wand
and now our intelligence agencies are. NOT political i just don't. Buy.
It now there are better ways they can. BE political
i THINK the Fbi with trump in charge is way
more HONEST than i THINK the fbi Was with biden.
In charge but there are just degrees of how much you.
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CAN trust i, MEAN again i think in, two years
in twenty, twenty seven ALL the mlk tapes are gonna.
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mlk banged every prostitute on the planet just about During
The civil. Rights movement when he was shot on the
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he had just, slept with not, his wife in the.
Hotel room i'm not saying that to SUGGEST that mlk
wasn't an incredibly important and transcendently brilliant. Historical figure i'm
just saying they had compromising information. ON everybody jfk used
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to have girls over to swim In The white house.
Pool naked the Minute That jacqueline, kennedy Left The secret
service would run in teenage girls to swim naked with
them In The. White house you don't think maybe that
was a little bit compromising Information That Jay egar hoover
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didn't know. ALL about, i, mean again these guys this
idea that the intelligence agencies are just out there trying
to do their best and they aren't political. At, all
man these. Are, killers literally there can be a lot
of bad that comes out, of THEM and i think
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two years when THE full mlk files, come out people
are gonna, be, like, ooh MAN this, mlk dude he
was into, some stuff just like a lot of people
have found OUT about JFK. And rfk and by, The Way,
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this IS what i was. Talking about this From The Wall,
street journal by, the way about how dirty these relationships
are between media and. The Campaigns The Wall street journal
reported well after, this occurred how exactly they got The
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information and this is. Pretty wild it Says The Wall
street journal reporter met in person beneath the brass Clock
In Grand central terminal four days before, the election and
someone with a brown folder with a ribbon tie handed
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them the information about the money Payments that trump had.
ALLEGEDLY made, i mean, come on you want to talk about?
Like that seems like something that would happen in. A
movie they're Meeting At Grand central terminal four days before
and a. Ribbon report give me. A break
Welcome in the Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Bucks out
the rest of the week. You'll have me solo as
we roll through all of the major breaking news stories
and right off the top. I think Buck would have
been just as sad about this news as I am
for any of us, particularly that grew up in the
(00:23):
eighties and the nineties. Malcolm Jamal Warner from The Cosby Show,
THEO dying earlier this week, but just in the last
thirty minutes or so, TMZ reports that Hulk Hogan, seventy
one year old wrestling superstar who was at the RNC
(00:45):
last year about this time endorsing President Trump, has died again,
age of seventy one. If you are of the age
as I know many of you are, who grew up
in the nineteen eighties watching wrestling, or if you had
kids that loved wrestling, maybe you did, maybe you were
(01:09):
a big Hulk maniac back in the nineteen eighties, in
the nineteen nineties. I don't think there are very many
people that were more famous in America in the eighties
and the nineties than Hulk Cogan, seventy one years old.
I want to play a couple of cuts of hul
Cogan again. The news just coming down. Hul Cogan dies
(01:31):
at seventy one years old. Here he was last year.
We played some of these cuts for you. Very funny
for those of you who remember the speech. Cut twenty
six Hulk Cogan at the RNC in Milwaukee last year
about this time.
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What Chiggarna do when Donald Tuff and all the top
of maniacs run wild on you? Brother?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Also cut twenty seven. Here, Remember he ripped his shirt
off in vintage Hulk Cogan fashion. He seemed very good
last year. Reports are early again that he had a
heart attack at seventy one years old. A lot of
those wrestlers, what they put their bodies through, have not
had very long lives, as many of you know. Here
(02:20):
is cut twenty seven Hulk Cogan ripping his shirt off
on the RNC stage. This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
What happened last week when they took a shot and
my hero and they tried to kill the next president
of the United States. Enough blaw was enough, said, look
chupa media run wild, brother, Let chop.
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O media rule again.
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Let topa media night amaca right again.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And that was an incredible turn on the stage. Now
I know about that. My boys are big wrestling fans,
and I know probably a lot of you out there
listening are as well. The WWE back in the day
was the WWF brought Hulk Hogan back in in relatively speaking,
a warm embrace after scandal had pushed him away for
(03:26):
some time, and he appeared on I believe the most
recently most recent WrestleMania and on several different of their events.
So look, if you want to talk back, I imagine
that there are a lot of you out there hearing
this news that want to react. If you've got a
(03:47):
favorite moment from the Hulksters era, you can talk back.
We'll play some of those. I would imagine that this
is something that is hitting a lot of people out
there who grew up, like I said, in the eighties
and nineties with Hulk Cogan as famous just about as
any sports entertainer media personality. Frankly, however, you want to
(04:10):
classify him as almost anyone out there, and obviously a
huge Donald Trump supporter and an iconic American original, I
mean truly one of the most only in America, as
Don King used to like to say, but truly only
(04:32):
in America. I don't know that there are figures like
hul Cogan, who certainly had tremendous global appeal and would
have been one of the most recognizable people I think
anywhere in the United States for sure, even for people
that did not care much about wrestling. He was just
an absolute icon. So that news coming down sad news.
(04:53):
Ozzy Osbourne for those of you who are rock fans,
and Malcolm Jamal Warner if you grew up in the
nineteen eighties, nineteen seventies, nineteen nineties, those are three different
icons that may well have characterized some of your youth, Okay,
So I wanted to share all that with you. Off
the top. I got a text message this morning. I
(05:17):
was getting ready for the show and friend of the show.
We've had him on the show, Alexi Lawless, one of
the best American men's soccer players of his era and
a American soccer analyst. A lot of you know him,
big fan of the show. Awesome guy. He said, hey,
I was listening. He listens every day, and he said
(05:38):
I was listening yesterday and I think, hey, man, I
speak for a lot of people. The Russia Gate story
is just it's a big mess, and the way it's
being covered, it's hard to even understand. Can you give
us a sense, just distill why it matters, take us
through it, I think. And he was speaking on behalf
(05:59):
of not only AM, but a lot of other listeners
who say, I just think this is super complicated and confusing.
So I took that to heart and I got out.
For those of you who watch us on YouTube, go subscribe.
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pad and I basically just I'll sit here with a
pin in my hand, and I jot down bullet points
that I think are important to characterize what exactly a
story is, just a little a note so that so
that I know where I'm going. And this morning, right
before the show, I took Alexi's comments to heart, and
(06:43):
I just jotted down a flow chart that I think
will simplify in the minds of people out there that
are somewhat confused over what happened with Russia Gate. I
also want to open up phone lines eight hundred two
two two eight eight two ask questions. There's nothing wrong
with not knowing the answer to a question. A lot
(07:05):
of people have opinions, but I think very often the
foundational knowledge is very important because it will allow you
to have more intelligent opinions than you otherwise might. So
let's go back in time. Let's go back in time
to twenty sixteen, to the election night. Hillary Clinton is
an overwhelming favorite to win the election. According to all
(07:28):
of the quote unquote experts. I remember sitting, as you
probably remember sitting, watching all those election results come in
and seeing what was effectively a cataclysm for the media.
All of their predictions, all of their expertise, all of
their polls, they were all one hundred percent wrong. And
(07:50):
not only were they one hundred percent wrong, but Trump
didn't just win. He won what it would have to
be characterized in many ways as a landslide victory out
of nowhere. One states that they said he had no
chance of winning Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, states that he would
win again in twenty twenty four, but in twenty sixteen,
they didn't see it coming at all, and so in
(08:12):
the immediate aftermath of Trump's win, the media and the
intelligencia and the entire Democrat establishment had two paths they
could have taken. One. They could have said, Hey, maybe
this guy Donald Trump is a much better politician than
we thought he was, and maybe Hillary Clinton is a
(08:33):
much worse politician than we thought she was. And they
could have gone through all of the returns and they
could have come up with a game plan to try
to beat Trump in twenty twenty that acknowledged the significance
of his win and also gave credit to him for
being an elite politician. They didn't do that. Instead, they
(08:58):
went back and they said, they're there's no way this
result could have happened, and happened in a legal manner.
In other words, Trump had to have cheated. What are
we missing? Everybody said Hillary was going to win. What
are we missing? What happened to make Trump win? And
(09:19):
instead of saying Hillary was a bad candidate, Hillary didn't
campaign in the States she should have. Hillary used her
resources poorly. She was a thoroughly unlikable person to many,
even Obama voters. Remember, Obama came out of nowhere to
beat Hillary way back in two thousand and eight, despite
the fact that Hillary had all of the advantages. What
(09:43):
was it that happened? They decided it had to be
something outside the bounds of normalcy. There had to be
cheating going on. Trump cheated, And I believe what happened
was that message was conveyed to the intelligence community, which
also was stunned beyond belief that Trump could win, and
so they came up with the idea that Russia put
(10:06):
its finger on the scale, and the story became manufactured narrative,
the reason Trump won was Russia. And they even moved
beyond Trump one because of Russia. To Trump is and
was a Russian agent. He is effectively the Manchurian candidate.
(10:26):
They took that manufactured evidence that they had created in
the intelligence communities out to the Washington Post, the New
York Times, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and they all
uncritically took that expert intelligence information and trumpeted it as
(10:50):
news and said Trump cheated. All of this was the
product of Russia's interference in our election. And they did
it by saying Russia hacked the election. And many people
out there in the media, in the Democrat Party, you
can say they're one and the same, decided to immediately
(11:11):
put Trump under siege because the idea from the get
go was that he was an illegitimate president. They couldn't
accept that Hillary lost. Again, this was the original sin.
They had two paths. Hillary just lost. She was a
bad candidate. Trump was better than we thought. That is
(11:31):
I think indisputably true. Instead, they said they had to
have cheated. Let's delegitimize Trump. Right at the outset, they
made the calculated decision, Hey, this is the path we're
going to take. And here is where Buck, we'll talk
about this, because I don't think the story is going away.
We'll talk about this with Buck when you come back
(11:51):
on Monday. I think he would sign on to this.
The intelligence agencies are so big that if you want
to find a story to tell in side of that
intelligence agency, there's somebody with data points that will allow
you to tell the story that you want to tell uncritically.
The Washington Post, New York Times, ABCNBCCBSC, and MSNBC. They
(12:13):
all ran with Russia and Trump cheated. That's why they
won the election. If you asked any questions about that,
oh you were complicit as well. Maybe Russia was paying
you all of that. Then leads to basically the entire
Trump one point zero regime being under siege from the
(12:34):
moment they came into office. Attorney General won't end it, says, hey,
we've got to have a special counsel to investigate all
this Russia collusion. Muller comes in, spends years investigating. Eventually,
what does he come out and say, there's no evidence
of collusion effectively, but it took years. That also, when
(12:57):
we come back, I want to talk about this, it
was just twenty sixteen. All of this also set the
table for what I think was the ultimate rig job
of twenty twenty when, because they had set the idea
that Trump was Putin's stooge, that Trump was working for Russia.
When the one hundred percent legitimate Hunter Biden laptop, which
(13:20):
indicated so much wrongdoing by the Biden family, when that
was in FBI possession, they decided to say the fifty
one intelligence agents that it had all the hallmarks of
Russian disinformation. They then sold an additional Russia lie. The
idea from the outset was clear Trump is a Russian stooge.
(13:43):
Trump is controlled by Putin. The only way he could
have won in twenty sixteen was by Russian interference was
all a lie, And what Tulsea was talking about yesterday
was that even the intelligence agencies themselves did not have
the evidence to support the lies that they helped to propagate.
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That's why all this is significant eight hundred and two
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Now a
lot of you weighing in with your own Russia Gate questions.
And another aspect of this that's important is all of
the people that told you that Trump was a Russian agent,
all of them that told you that Russia tried and
(15:53):
basically did succeed in hacking the twenty sixteen election, all
of them are now telling you, oh, there's nothing to
what Tulca Gabbard said yesterday. They gave each other Pulitzer prizes.
The New York Times in the Washington Post haven't returned
those Pulitzer prizes that they got for one hundred percent
(16:15):
artificial fake news. At a bare minimum, if they wanted
to acknowledge their complicity in spreading all of these Russian
hoax lies, they would return the Pulitzers that they got
for information that was one hundred percent not true. But
in order to do that, they would have to tell
(16:37):
their audiences, Hey, all those things we told you for
years about Trump being a Russian agent and how Russia
rigged the twenty sixteen election with their Facebook ad buys
and their email hacks of Hillary Clinton, all of that, well,
it didn't actually change the outcome in any way, and
(16:59):
it turns out Trump one fair and square in twenty sixteen.
If they did that, they would have to return all
the Pulitzer prizes. They would have to acknowledge that they
covered a fundamental lie for four years. And so they're
not going to do it. They're going to tell you
I was reading the newspapers this morning. Buried on page
(17:20):
A twenty of the New York Times is the Tulsa
Gabbard revelations. CNN we played that audio for you yesterday.
As soon as she started to lay the case out,
they cut her mic and went back to the studio
and said, hey, we're not going to cover this. Lots
of people out there who vote Democrat still believe that
(17:44):
Trump is a Russian asset. They've even tried to play
that same narrative again in twenty twenty four. Anytime Trump
has been remotely remotely conciliatory in any way towards Putin
as a part of trying to get a ceasefire in Europe,
I'm gonna talk about this more why it matters, but
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hanging out with us. A lot of people with questions
that want to weigh in on the Russia Gates story
that started yesterday. So I laid out why I think
(19:10):
it was such a significant story, why the people that
helped to spread it are unlikely to acknowledge, hey, we
got this all wrong, and how it completely attacked Trump
one point zero and threw them off kilter from the
moment they came into the White House. And I think
Trump has summed it up very well by saying, in
the first term, I was the hunted, now I'm the hunter.
(19:34):
And to be fair, there has been no suggestion hardly
at all that the twenty twenty four election was anything
other than a landslide triumph of an epic nature by Trump.
So that now Trump's intense and significant political talents are
basically acknowledged. And I've told you and I am one
(19:56):
hundred percent confident that this is going to happen, and
some of you are going to tell me that I'm crazy.
But by the time we get into twenty twenty seven,
that is after the midterms next year, when everybody who's
running for the Democrat nomination, when everybody's running for the
Republican nomination, all of the Democrats are going to come
out and say, well, Republicans are never going to be
(20:17):
able to repeat what they had during the Trump era.
They're going to go from he was hitler to he
was the most uniquely talented politician in America since Ronald Reagan,
almost overnight. Prepare yourself for that, because they will shift
their narrative on a dime. Okay, Now, the question is
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that I think is integral. That's why Russiagate matters. Tulsi
laid it out, I thought, articulately, brilliantly, clearly, and I
would encourage you to go listen to her ten minute
run through of all of the evidence that was marshaled
from inside of the intelligence agencies. The other thing is
Trump didn't have his people at the intelligence agencies in
(21:03):
the first term, and I think he learned how important
that is. That's why cash Ptel at the top of
the FBI matters, That's why Tulci Gabbert at the top
of the DNI matters. That's why Dan Bongino is Deputy
director of the FBI matters. And I understand she has
been under fire quite a lot related to Epstein, and
(21:23):
we may talk about that a bit during the course
of today's show, depending on how the Department of Justice
conversation with Julane Maxwell, which is schedule to take place
today actually goes. But uh, Pambondi, these are all people
that Trump has faith in, that he believes will have
(21:44):
his back, and that are finally going through all of
these internal documents and pointing out the fallacies that are involved.
Now a lot of you are asking questions eight hundred
and two two two eight eight two, and we are
now going to go through those in order right now.
And let's start with Josh in New Jersey. What you
(22:07):
got for me?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
How are you great? Appreciate you calling.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah, thank you for having me on your show. So
even if the DOJ is able to lay out a
very strong case, I'm just wondering if the past Supreme
Court case that was ruled the davor of Trump in
twenty four that gives presumptive immunity for any acts of
the president within their scope, within their purview, I mean,
won't that work in obama savor. So even if you
(22:33):
have the strongest case, it's unlikely anything will really stick
because he has presumptive immunity.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Thank you, And I think this is the irony. The
best defense that Barack Obama twenty sixteen has is the six'
to Three Supreme court decision That trump, won establishing basically
criminal immunity for any president for activities within the scope
(22:59):
of his presidential. Powers and, honestly this is why there
are going to be people out there who make a
lot of money telling You Barack obama is going to
go to prison for this in twenty. Sixteen just, WAIT
i don't think that's, true BECAUSE i actually think the
very first Argument obama will, make despite the fact that
(23:20):
they told you it was a Fascist Supreme, Court and
this is how dictatorships. Happen the very first precedent That
Barack obama's, defense if he were charged in this, case
would point to is they would Say trump was protected
from criminal charges for everything he did to investigate the
twenty twenty. Election everything That obama did to investigate the
(23:43):
twenty sixteen election is also. Protected i'm just telling you
that is what every criminal defense attorney would go. To
and if you go back and listen to the tape
on this, SHOW i, said the reason the criticisms of
The Supreme court six' to three Decision on trump are
so so unfair is because that precedent is going to
(24:04):
apply for every president that's still, Alive Today, Bill CLINTON. George,
W Bush, barack obama and every president that's still alive in,
the future whoever those, may Be And president. Trump today,
so yes IT'S why i think the odds you could.
Bring CHARGES but i think the number one Defense For
(24:25):
barack obama will be look at what you just ruled
for the charges related To the trump twenty twenty investigation into.
The Election all obama was doing is the same thing in,
twenty SIXTEEN and i think that there would be. NO
way i Think the supreme court would look at it, and,
say yeah this is within his. Presidential powers there's no
criminal charges that can be brought. On it THAT'S what.
(24:46):
I think, Good question Jason In. New hampshire what you got?
For me.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
We could possibly even be able to tie in the
legacy media and even also like all The politician democrats
as co conspirators because they were complicit in pushing The
Whole Trump russia. GATE stuff i was just wondering what
you thought, about that because, you know, if.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah you got cut off a little bit there at.
The FRONT but i think you're asking about sort of
criminal conspiracy charges involving media and the people who fed
them this information given the fact that it's now been.
Discredited again. Smart QUESTION how i would analyze that is.
THIS way i believe the charges would have to be
based on sharing classified information to media Because and i'm
(25:40):
not trying to be their criminal, defense attorneys but your
average reporter At The washington post Or The New york TIMES, OR, ABC, NBCCBS,
msnbc cnn they're not actually, that smart and all they're
doing is writing on the information that's being provided to
them from inside the. Intelligence agencies they don't get access
(26:04):
to the, wide variety the huge spectrum of different opinions
that might be originating from inside of the. Intelligence agencies
they are only writing on what they're. Being given so,
to me the most likely charges here that would be
able to stick are sharing classified information with. The media
(26:26):
the challenge there is. PROVING it i think proving that
the media knew that this information was not true at
the time that they published it is hard. TO do
i think proving that they know it's not true now
is very easy, to do which Is why i'm saying
the absolute bare minimum they should do is Pull these.
Pulitzer prizes Jim In. North carolina what, you, got?
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Hi guys so comment and then. Quick, QUESTION so i
don't think they have any shot whatsoever it being successful
in bringing any charges Against. AN obama i do think
there's a much better Chance, For camy Brenner. And, clapper
however and my question to you guys is What? About
hillary any chance at anything being brought?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Against?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
HER yeah i think this is the challenge with figuring
out exactly what her campaign did to Fund the. STEEL
dossier i think that's probably the best way that you
could Go. After HILLARY and i don't disagree, with you by,
the Way About brennan clapper and all of these. Intelligence
guys i'm telling you what their defense is going to,
(27:35):
be is we had all, this information we had all these.
Different reports we're just trying to figure out what we
think is the most likely and so they're, gonna, say
hey we all we did was try together as much
intel as we could analyze it to the best of.
Our ability we don't have perfect vision on the Decisions
that russia is trying. To make we're trying to put
(27:58):
that puzzle together without all of those, pieces there and
so proving intent is always one of the most challenging
aspects of any. Criminal CHARGE so i Think what hillary
knew and when she knew it is again integral to
potential charges. As WELL and i just think it's going
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to be very hard to go after anybody for doing
anything other than leaking. INTELLIGENCE information i Think the hillary
campaign and this IS what i think a lot of you,
see now and it's why it's so. Incredibly Dirty if
hillary's campaign had wanted to come out and they, had,
said hey we Think That donald trump Is a, russian
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asset because we've been told that there is a tape
from a high end from a high end Hotel that
russia Has of trump and it's compromising information and they're
going to use it. Against him if they had come
out and directly, SAID that i think that would be
different than what they tried, to do which is get
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the information and then get the media to write about
it so they can cite the media's reporting instead of
putting it. Out themselves and this is kind of the
dark arts of politics. In, general usually how do you
think the media ends up with the nasty divorce details
of a somebody running, for office or their battleover child,
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support payments or what happened with some business that didn't
go well and they went bankrupt. With it that's all
counter intelligence that is collected by the campaign running against,
the candidate but instead of putting it, out themselves which
would actually be at least. Somewhat, honest hey you can't
trust that guy because he went bankrupt because he didn't pay,
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child support because all, these things they get the media
to write, the story but they are handing the media
all the information that allows the media to write. The
story it's actually, super dirty, super dirty and basically all
they're doing is laundering the story that they want to
tell and having the media tell it, for them and
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then they. Point back once you, see it you can't not.
See it they point back and, they, say hey Look
To washington post. Reported, this Hey The New york times. Reported,
this yeah because you handed them that, intel guys look up.
This story do you know do you remember where The
Whole stormy daniels. Story started my recollection is that Somebody
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from hillary's campaign confirm that this. Is, correct guys that
Someone from hillary's campaign Met A Wall street journal reporter
in a public like a park and just handed them
printed off stories that they were just handing to them
(31:02):
to try to get them to write About The stormy.
Daniels case that's my recollection for how. IT happened, i
mean it's actually these campaigns are basically intelligence. Agencies THEMSELVES
and i think one of, the lessons, and look this
has always been my Thing because i'm a, history nerd
one of the lessons that people just don't really spend
enough time on is intelligence agencies are. Always political they've always.
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Been political they just released a bunch OF the. Mlk
Files J edgar hoover Wire Tapped Martin luther king's hotel
rooms back in the day and recorded him having sex.
With hookers they spied ON EVERYBODY. Ourfk jfk when people
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come out now and, THEY'RE like i don't know how
you don't TRUST, The fbi, i'm like have you ever
read history OUR. Own fbi look At What jaeggar. Hoover
did he had compromising information on every famous person in
political office for. Forty years and you think that's just.
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Now stopped you think that somebody waved a magic wand
and now our intelligence agencies are. NOT political i just don't. Buy.
It now there are better ways they can. BE political
i THINK the Fbi with trump in charge is way
more HONEST than i THINK the fbi Was with biden.
In charge but there are just degrees of how much you.
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CAN trust i, MEAN again i think in, two years
in twenty, twenty seven ALL the mlk tapes are gonna.
Come out go Read The Taylor Branch Civil. RIGHTS trilogy
mlk banged every prostitute on the planet just about During
The civil. Rights movement when he was shot on the
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balcony Of The Remain, lorraine motel there was a chick
he had just, slept with not, his wife in the.
Hotel room i'm not saying that to SUGGEST that mlk
wasn't an incredibly important and transcendently brilliant. Historical figure i'm
just saying they had compromising information. ON everybody jfk used
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to have girls over to swim In The white house.
Pool naked the Minute That jacqueline, kennedy Left The secret
service would run in teenage girls to swim naked with
them In The. White house you don't think maybe that
was a little bit compromising Information That Jay egar hoover
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didn't know. ALL about, i, mean again these guys this
idea that the intelligence agencies are just out there trying
to do their best and they aren't political. At, all
man these. Are, killers literally there can be a lot
of bad that comes out, of THEM and i think
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the twenty sixteen was a lot. Of bad and in
two years when THE full mlk files, come out people
are gonna, be, like, ooh MAN this, mlk dude he
was into, some stuff just like a lot of people
have found OUT about JFK. And rfk and by, The Way,
bill clinton we know what he. Was into, All right
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this IS what i was. Talking about this From The Wall,
street journal by, the way about how dirty these relationships
are between media and. The Campaigns The Wall street journal
reported well after, this occurred how exactly they got The
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information and this is. Pretty wild it Says The Wall
street journal reporter met in person beneath the brass Clock
In Grand central terminal four days before, the election and
someone with a brown folder with a ribbon tie handed
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them the information about the money Payments that trump had.
ALLEGEDLY made, i mean, come on you want to talk about?
Like that seems like something that would happen in. A
movie they're Meeting At Grand central terminal four days before
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