October 8, 2025 • 37 mins
In Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Buck broadcasts live from Washington, D.C., sharing firsthand observations of the city during the ongoing government shutdown. He describes how the absence of federal workers has transformed D.C. into a “ghost town,” raising questions about the size and necessity of the federal bureaucracy. Buck argues that the shutdown highlights the bloated nature of government and suggests that essential services continue to function without the non-essential workforce.
The hour dives into breaking news on James Comey’s trial, where the former FBI Director pleaded not guilty to federal charges of lying to Congress and obstructing proceedings. Buck critiques the hypocrisy of Democrats warning about “dangerous precedent,” pointing out years of lawfare against Donald Trump and his allies. He revisits Comey’s controversial history, including the Martha Stewart prosecution and his role in targeting General Michael Flynn, framing the trial as a symbolic pushback against a two-tiered justice system—even if conviction remains unlikely. Buck played an old clip from Rush Limbaugh in May of 2017, where he warned us about Comey and Brennan.
Buck also explores crime and public safety, contrasting high-trust societies like Taiwan and Japan with the dramatic turnaround in El Salvador, which slashed its murder rate from 103 per 100,000 to just 1 per 100,000 in a decade. He argues this proves that crime reduction is possible anywhere, including U.S. cities like Chicago and Portland, if leaders adopt strong policies. This discussion ties into Donald Trump’s proposal to deploy the National Guard to Chicago, sparking debate over urban safety and political resistance.
The hour touches on Katie Porter’s viral interview meltdown amid her California gubernatorial run, questioning her temperament and leadership potential. Listener talkbacks add humor and insight, from analogies about superheroes to commentary on Democrats’ fear of Trump restoring safety in major cities.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on Amazon today. Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Continuing Government Shutdown edition.
And I got a lot of news to talking about today,
and we're going to be joined by a couple of
Senators to discuss some of it. Senator Ran Paul in
(00:52):
the second hour, Senator Ron Johnson in the third hour.
I am here in our nation's capital, so figure should
talk to some of the lawmens and legislators and people
making the decisions. And they have a little more time
on their hands because of this shutdown situation. We've also
got Trump weighing heavily on the National Guard deployment to Chicago.
(01:15):
He's got some choice Trump words. James Comy his trial.
I've got updates for you on that. I've also got
a well, some Pambondi hearing stuff that we can discuss
a little bit of. I just wanted to start with
this though. DC is absolutely lovely right now. It is
(01:37):
incredible being here now. Some of it might be the
increase in safety because of the Trump agenda, but just
hear me out, the government shutdown means that this city
is wide open. There's no one clogging the streets, the
roadways are wide open. You can drive anywhere. It is
(01:57):
a ghost town in all the best ways. So I'm
having a great time. I'm walking around the broad boulevards,
barely a soul in sight. The restaurants, you can get
a table anywhere. I can drive around. DC has among
the worst traffic congestion areas in the entire country. DC
is pretty much always a top five contender and often
(02:20):
a top three for the worst traffic. And you have
hundreds of thousands of government workers who are currently on furlough,
not going into these massive federal buildings pushing a bunch
of paper around. So the city is great. I gotta
say this shutdown, it's a fantastic time to be in
this town and having some meetings with various stakeholders and
(02:43):
movers and shakers here, some of it off the record,
but it's interesting stuff that's going on, that much, I
can tell you. Some people are saying very interesting meetings,
very interesting for mister Buck. But yeah, I have to
check in on my people here in DC. Sometimes I'm
just saying it's a great time. But why should you
care that?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
What do we need all these government workers for? If
everything seems fine without them going to their jobs. I
think it's a fair ask. Remember the Pentagon is still
going public safety. There's essential and non essential services in
this town, and the non essential includes a lot of
people who I think are remote remote workers anyway or
(03:23):
have been. And everything seems to be functioning just fine.
I don't know. Maybe if you have to wait in
line longer than normal, or you can't get into the
certain areas of a national park, you're upset. But for me,
walking around our nation's capital, it feels like the swamp
has been cleared. It's great, and I think that it's
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a reminder that we have a massive and bloated federal
bureaucracy and if there are some changes made to that
as part of the shutdown, to me, that is a
good thing. That is a good thing. But yeah, I
think this is one of the You have perfect weather,
no bureaucrats, and you can drive anywhere here in this
(04:09):
town now in less than ten minutes. This is the
best version of DC I can remember. Right, This is great.
So I'm having a lot of fun here and I'm
down here of course in our DC iHeart studio. All right. Now,
with that said, we've got some updates on a whole
range of things. Oh, this is what I was looking
for when I started off the show. Katie Porter, we
(04:31):
will discuss this. She's running for governor. She's a congresswoman.
She is not a particularly affable one and may have
done some real damage Durr campaign. You're just gonna have
to hear this exchange, but I will play that one
for you. Has gone megaviral. She can be very nasty,
(04:52):
kind of a nasty exchange with a journalist who's trying
to ask her some questions. So we will get We
will get to that as well, Katie Porter situation. But
as I had to mention to you, we have as
of this morning update here on the James Comy trial.
I believe it is going to be happening January fifth.
(05:16):
It is set for so that's pretty quick. They're they're
moving pretty fast on this one. And here is Fox
News is Bill Hammer. This is from this morning just
with that breaking news and laying out some of what's
going on here for Sanktacomy play it. Here is the
breaking news.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
The former FBI director James Comby in front of a
judge moments ago and a hearing that we did not
think would last long.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And apparently that is the case.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He has entered a plea of not guilty to two
charges federal level. Now are producers inside the courtroom say
the former director accused of lying to Congress obstructing a
congressional proceeding. End of the plea moments ago in front
of the judge Michael Knockmanoff appointed by Joe not guilty
(06:01):
on both federal charges. He's accused of lying in front
of Congress back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So that is the update inside the courtroom. So now
he's going to trial. One of the most hilarious arguments
against this that I keep seeing all over the place
from the Libs is, oh my gosh, the precedent that
has been set here, What would you do, Republicans if
(06:26):
people started to use prosecutors' offices as weapons of politics?
And to this, you just want to say, have you
been asleep for the last decade? Do you have any
idea what has gone on with four different criminal cases
brought against Donald Trump, all of which were bogus civil
cases brought against Trump by the State of New York
(06:48):
in one case, and by a woman who claims from
thirty years ago, thirty something years ago, Trump grabbed her
in a department store. The stuff that they have done,
the lawfair they have done against Trump and his family
alone has done tremendous damage to the public's faith in
(07:09):
all of these different facets of our criminal justice system,
or just our justice system of the courts too, because
some of it was civil. This is atrocious. I mean,
the things that have gone on here, the precedents that
have already been set. Now they want to tell us
we should be worried about going too far in the
other direction. No, they already did this. In fact, what
(07:32):
they have done, what the Democrats have done specifically with
the targeted lawfair against Donald Trump, among many others. It's
really Trump and Trump world, everybody who is Trump adjacent
all the way to January sixth, defendants, right, it's the
whole Trump movement that they have used the prosecutor's office.
(07:54):
They have used lawfare as a tool as a weapon
to to ruin lives, to put tremendous pressure on people,
to financially drain them, to undermine them, to malign them,
to defame them. All of that they have already done.
They sent an FBI team tomorrow lago and they went
(08:16):
through Malania's sock drawer. And libs want to lecture us
about James Comy, who allegedly lied under oath facing the music.
I'm sorry, is there some special carve out for being
a six foot ten jerk who uses the law in
order to puff himself up and is part of his
(08:38):
own just malignant narcissism. Is there some carve out where
he doesn't have to actually face the music the way
that he has made so many others and I think
entrapped people and abuse the law. Most notably General Flynn.
I like to fill in these gaps too, so no
one can say, well, you just said he's abusing, and
no I like to give you the specifics to remind everybody,
(08:58):
to remind everybody that James Comy thought it was funny
to use the Logan Act, which no serious human being
thinks anybody can or would be prosecuted under, as a
total pretext. It's like the equivalent of a swatting call.
It is a bad faith use of law enforcement to
go after the General Michael Flynn, the incoming National Security advisor.
(09:21):
I know it feels like that was a long time ago,
but there hasn't been Well maybe you don't feel that way,
but they'll say that, but there's been no justice for that.
That ambush hasn't been punished. And James Comy thinks that
he's a clever guy for the whole thing, and he
thinks that what was that book? I think was Higher Power?
Is that right? Higher Power or something like that? I'm
(09:45):
now the real question you might ask is is James
Comy's book a more brutal read than Kamala is one
hundred and seven Days. I cannot answer that question because
I haven't read Comy's book, but I will tell you
that is some if competition. That is, you know, Superman
versus Iron Man with the like the super suit.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean, that is tough stuff, really really preposterous that
James Comy would think anybody would want to read his
memoir and on his book tour. But such as things are,
he is now facing the music and there's the possibility.
I think it's slim. I don't want to over promise
and under deliver, ever on this show, I think it
is slim. But here's what I will tell that he
(10:28):
will actually be convicted because it's it's a Northern Virginia jury.
I was just saying, how much fun, how much fun
DC is with no government bureacrats running around. They all
live in Arlington mostly, you know, they live a lot
of them inside or just outside of the Beltway. It's
going to be a very favorable pool for James Comy.
(10:48):
But here's why I view this is so important. The
message is received, whether Comy is found guilty or not,
the message is received that there will at least be
an effort to hold the other side to the law
and not create a system. This is really important a
system where we are held to an extra legal standard
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and they are held to a sub legal standard, or
rather they get to break the law and get away
with it. Meanwhile, they get to prosecute us Trump for
not breaking the law, and we do nothing in response.
We have to at least establish that we will bring
charges against people who have been involved in this law
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fair involved in using the government, the deep state, however
you want to describe it, to take out people for
purely political reasons. Well, if they break the law in
that process, there will be some form of accountability. And
now there is going to be I think a pretty
high probability just based on the jury pool that calm
me will be found. In my mind, he'll be found
(11:55):
not guilty. He'll be acquitted on this. But let's see,
let's see, it's a pretty straightforward thing. Did he lie
or did he not lie? Let's see what kind of
case the process. I know, I don't want to I
don't want to prejudge anything here. Let's see what is
produced in that court. You don't need to call me
and say, buck, you're already getting ahead of the cart
(12:16):
before the horse here, I know, But I just I
like to manage our expectations for where this is going.
It's it's still a steep climb. This is a little
bit of ice skating uphill here to think that James
Comey is going to actually be convicted. But the fact
that the charge has been brought alone sends a message
we are not going to just lie down and accept
(12:38):
a two tiered system of justice in this town, Washington, DC,
or anywhere else for that matter. And that is important.
That is something that we all have to recognize as
a necessary step because otherwise it's, you know, heads they win,
tails we lose. Did I do that one right? That's
(12:58):
always always feel like I'm gonna get that one. It's
like Bush when he's like fool me once, can't get
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I've been warning people
for years about this Comy guy, and I wish if
the president at the time had pulled me aside and
asked me early on in his first term, I would
have shared all you have to know about James Comy.
You would know from the way he acted with respect
(15:15):
to the Martha Stewart prosecution, a prosecution that nobody in
his office but him wanted to bring a prosecution for
which there was no crime, not even any money made
or lost. It was just the whole thing was absurd.
And Martha Stewart is a huge Democrat who does not
like Trump and does not like Republicans. And this is
just about what's what's fair and decent. It's not about politics.
(15:39):
But Komy really has always thought of himself as like
the high priest of the DOJ. So much of Komy,
I will tell you this, so much of Komy reminds
me of Fauci. Fauci is like the the you know,
the the Liliputian version of Komy. They have the same
(15:59):
person soonality type. They pretend it's all about the cause
of the institution, it's really all about them. And they
get this uh, this solyopsism word of the day, solepsism
from all of this, and you like that one. That
producer rally likes that one. And I'm not the only
one warning you about this guy, or have been warning
(16:21):
about this guy for a long time. The great Rush
Limbaugh back in twenty nineteen, he saw exactly who James
Comy was and also knew about his past, which we
should all be reminded. I've played two.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
How many of you have heard or thought that James
call me was a lifelong Republican. I have I've always
thought that James call Me was a lifelong Republican. I've
been told that James call Me as a lifelong Republican.
Turns out not to be true. Are you wearing of
James Comey used to be a Communist. In a two
thousand and three interview with New York Magazine, James call
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Mey said before voting for Jamie Jimmy Carter nineteen eighty,
he'd been a communist. He admitted, I'd moved from communists
to whatever I am. Now now we know that John Brennan,
Obama's CIA director, was a Communist, or at least had
voted for the Communist Party, But I had never heard
(17:19):
this about Komy. Now we find out that under Obama,
the CIA director and the FBI director both had histories
of not just flirtation, but serious immersion into communism. And
like the KGB always said, no one ever leaves the KGB,
(17:42):
nobody ever leaves this way of thinking.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Isn't that interesting? You start to see how for some
of these individuals there was an ideological foundation of communism.
And these are people who are at the top of
the national security operat us in this country in recent years.
Communism and then they become some malleable chameleon in politics,
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just so they can weave their way through the bureaucracy.
But do you think they've ever really changed their collectivist foundation.
Rush didn't think that Komi had, or Brendan for that matter,
and he was right. He warned us about this, and
now perhaps there will be some accountability for the misdeeds
that were done. But we're not going to hold our
(18:31):
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(19:29):
back into Clay and Buck. As we said, Comy is
facing a trial in January for allegedly lying to Congress.
And here we have a talkback from Jeff in Salt
Lake City on this specific issue. Let's play AA on
the talkbacks. Hey, Buck, I just wanted to repeat the
Democrat talking point that nobody is above the law even
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if you're six foot ten. I like it, well done.
Comy is very tall. He might even be Jesse Kelly.
I hit my head on the ceilings of every building
in America. Tall I think. I mean Comy and Jesse
Kelly are in that same you know, Oh, I can't
see in an airplane seats because my knees are you know,
(20:13):
up around my years or whatever. It's like, okay, buddy,
you know, very tall, almost seven footers. I don't think either,
of them played basketball either, so they've got that in common.
There you go, separated at birth. I don't know Jesse,
so yes, Komy is a very tall fellow and he
should not be above the law. This, of course, is
upsetting all of the Democrats out there. This is upsetting
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the Democrats who are trying to now convince I don't
think that they believe they're gonna convince us with this,
but it's a talking point that they put out there
for the consumption of their own side, their own audience.
Or they will say things like, but what about the president?
You're setting here and here is Politico's White House correspondence.
This has cut twenty six. Listen to this argument.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
This opens up bit of a Pandora's box, right, not
just for this administration, but for future administrations that may
want to follow suit, Republican or Democrat. This is unprecedented
and it creates some precedent for this kind of action
from a president and a Justice Department that follows that
kind of direction.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'm sorry, was she asleep for the last four years?
You really have to wonder does she not understand what
has been happening in this country? We had a presidential
candidate and former president under indictment in four different cases,
the first time it had ever happened, and then they
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did it four times. So they're going to try to
tell us about the president that it sets now, Oh
my gosh, James, call me. This is madness. And never
mind the fact that you had senior Trump advisors who
went to prison Okay Navarro and been in are older gentlemen,
(22:02):
and they had to pick which bunk bed they were
sleeping in for like six months. They went to prison
because they stood on their principles and refused to bend
the knee to the Democrat law. Fair they actually serve
time over that, and there are others in the Trump
orbit who have as well. But we're supposed to weep.
(22:23):
We're supposed to be upset about the precedent that is
set by James Comy. Maybe, and it's a big maybe,
maybe facing some form of justice here. Just understand this
Comy's perfectly happy sending other people to prison many times
over for lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, lying,
whatever the case may be. He had no problem with that.
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James Comy didn't shed a tear for all the people
over all the years that he was in the FBI,
or that he was a federal prosecutor, in which case
he was really making the decisions right. FBI investigates, but
the FBI will refer they work very hand in glove
with US attorneys with ausas, and so if if the
FBI hands a case over, they're like, well, we think
this guy's you know, go get him. US attorney's usually
(23:09):
gonna say yeah, okay, and they do. But Kome's been
on both sides of that coin. Remember, Comy has never
had a badge and a gun and tackled a bad
guy to the ground in his life. That's an important
aspect of this as well. It's like, oh, the FBI director,
he's a lawman, he's a you know, he's a g man.
He's a guy that no, he's he's a lawyer and
a scummy one. So that's something that I think you
(23:31):
have to keep in mind here as well, that Komy
was perfectly willing to send. That's why the Martha Stewart
example I think is so powerful. I know it's a
long time ago, almost like twenty years now, but it
still goes to show you he doesn't shed a tear
for other people when they are separated from their family, humiliated,
reputation ruined for the most for the most minor transgression
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under the most strict reading of federal statute. So why
should why should uh this not be a case of
what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
That's the phrase, right, yes, just making sure. So the
only reason I know what to get, Like, did you
know what a gander was? Other than that, I never
you know, have you ever been with somebody with they point,
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They're like, look at the gander. You know what I mean?
I don't know. I've never had that one. So at
least I know the I got the phrase right, which
is which is important. So yes, Komy is facing all
this and now okay, let's do some Let's do some
talk about this situation in uh oh oh, sorry, I
(24:36):
was pulling this up situation in Chicago, but I wanted
to note something because I keep telling you with respect
to Taipei, Taiwan, please go listen to the interview I did.
It's up at clanbuck dot com with the President Taiwan.
I got picked up by Bloomberg. It's been picked up
by a lot of news organizations around the world. Now
he says some really important stuff. He says at President Trump,
is that is the deciding factor here to create peace
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or to sustain peace in that area. And if you does,
and he thinks he will, he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize just for that. So a lot of a
lot of reason. I think to listen to that if
you can. But there's also what I the case that
I've been making to you is, look at how safe
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it is. This this this is going to translate to
our Chicago and Portland discussion here in just a second.
But I said, look at how safe it is in Taipei, Taiwan.
Look at what it's like there, And the same thing
is true in Tokyo. There are a number of cities.
Norway has incredibly low crime rate and very nice fjords,
but very low crime rate. And or is that Sweden?
(25:39):
I might have just actually I might have just swedened Norway.
Do they they both have fjords, right? Do they both
call them fjords? Whatever? So this is why I got
a crack research team here. They're going to correct me
on my fjords, Ganders and fjords. We're learning, we're learning
all kinds of new things people say to me in
response to this, I got a lot of First of all,
(25:59):
some folks you're saying, is it's just nice to observe that.
It's nice to know that that is possible. But what
a lot of even conservatives were saying to me online
when I shared that experience in Taiwan, it's just there's
just no crime. Worrying about being brutally carjacked or something
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in Taiwan is like worrying about a shark attack in
two feet of water. It can happen, but I don't
think you're really gonna worry about it. You know it's
not impossible, but you don't, whereas there are other places
where you know, you're jumping in the water, they're chumming
the water, and there's already some big fins, you know,
like you've got problems.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's very different mentality, very different situation. But people kept
saying to me, oh, but it's so different there, and
specifically the cases of Taiwan Japan. I would add Norway
to that list because they say those are cohesive, high
trust cultures. Now that is true, true, but there's something
(27:01):
out There's there's another layer, there's another part of this
argument that I want conservatives, I want the right, I
want the Trump team, some of whom are listening right now.
Hey guys, I want them to know this and have
this one ready to deploy, because this is important. People
will somewhat dismiss the low crime miracle, if you will,
(27:25):
of a Taiwana, tokyoa Norway, Switzerland kind of has a
similarish a level of crime. They'll dismiss it because I'll say, well,
that's their small country. Well, Japan's not a small country,
but in Taiwan's got twenty three million people, it's not
that small. But the cultural cohesiveness that that everyone is.
It's places that are not that are not you know,
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multi lingual and diverse places that there is a high
level of societal trust. Okay, well what about Al Salvador.
This is really I keep telling everybody there's a reason
the media doesn't want to talk about Al Salvador, and
they want I want to do everything possible in this
country to undermine Boukeley, who is responsible for a miraculous turnaround.
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Rudy Giuliani himself would give Bukeale a high five because
remember Rudy had the New York miracle, with crime. He
would give Bukali a high five for what he has
done in Al Salvador. In twenty fifteen, ten years ago,
El Salvador was at a one hundred and three homicides
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per one hundred thousand residents. That is, if not at
that time the highest in the world, it was top three,
and it might have been the highest Honduras, El Salvador,
these countries were going back and forth, but let's just
say it was basically the highest murder rate in the
world for a country not at war, right, you don't
count war deaths the same way, but for homicides, Al
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Salvador was the single most dangerous place. It's certainly, you know,
top three in the world, and very different. I don't think.
I don't think anybody needs an explanation, very different culturally
and otherwise from Japan and Norway, and it's a Latin
American country. Al Salvador in this year had one one
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murder per hundred thousand residents, a hundred times reduction in
the murder rate in ten years. So I don't want
to hear this fatalism from people that, oh, that's only possible.
You can only make streets safe, you can only make
people feel like their wives and daughters can jog alone
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at night without a care in the world other than traffic.
You can only do that in places like Japan and
Taiwan and Norway and Switzerland and Monaco, you know, places
like that. It's not true. And what should be happening
right now is the rest of Latin America. I mean,
the crime rate in some of these Latin American countries
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is still astonishing. Parts of Mexico are very safe, but
parts of Mexico are among the most dangerous places in
the world. Now, it's a big country, so that brings
the overall number down a bit. But uh, Kolima, Mexico,
which is in the central south, I would guess you'd
say on a map it controls. It's a city nearby
(30:30):
to one of the main Pacific ports where all the
fentanyl precursors are coming in. That is the city that,
certainly last year had the highest murder rate in the world.
It was the most it's just a cartel war going
on there, highest murder rate in the world. And the
truth is any Latin American country, and really any country
can do what El Salvador has done, and what Buqueli
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deserves a standing ovation for which he is getting from
his people. By the way, despite how much the Washington
Post hates him, and despite how much CNN tries to
undermine him, because it's possible here too, you get the
crime you tolerate. Society makes a choice. It does not
have to be this way. And for everybody who is
(31:13):
dismissing a little bit of what I saw in Taiwan,
I say, okay, El Salvador is pretty much as safe
as Taiwan, now pretty close. You want to explain that
one to me. If they can do it, why can't Chicago.
If they can do it, why can't other places in
this country with high crime rates. The Portland situation is
(31:33):
a little different. That's more about anarchy, disorder and stopping ice.
It's a slightly different law enforcement issue there. They don't
have a super high murder rate, which is a good thing.
But in countries where they do, there really is no
argument that it has to be this way. There's just
people who don't want to face reality and people who
are ignorant of what is possible. And enough is enough.
(31:55):
And I think this is why Donald Trump is absolutely
on the right track with it. And like I said,
just even hear the statistic one hundred and three murders
per one hundred thousand ten years ago in El Salvador
one per one hundred thousand murders last year. That's telling
you something, isn't it?
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All right, we'll get some of your calls and talkbacks here,
of course, welcome back into the show. We'll discuss the
Katie Porter for Governor situation, the meltdown that happened during
an interview. Very nasty, very nasty woman. I don't know
why people in California can't see to a better candidate
(34:05):
than this, but she is very likely, it is believed
to be the next governor of California, which again I'm
I'm a reality based conservative always. California is an amazing state,
a beautiful state. I'm a big fan of it as
a place, and there are lots of great people there.
But man, that government is not good. State government is
(34:29):
not good. Let's take well, actually, let's get to this
talk back here. Bb Josh from Oklahoma hit.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
It hey Buck Josh from Oklahoma loved the show, but
I gotta say bad form on the analogy. If you're
gonna do analogies, stick to tennis, because, if anything, it
should be Superman versus the Hulk.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Why why can't it be Superman versus Iron Man. Isn't
that DC and Marvel? Isn't that a crossover? I don't
understand why Superman versus the Hulk. There was a movie
that was Superman versus Batman. It was not a good movie.
But do you know, Producer Mark is my he can
text me, he's my Marvel Universe and DC Comics experts.
(35:10):
So Producer Mark, you're the judge on this one. Can
you can you make a call? Here was my was
my iron Man Superman analogy?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Really?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That off? I thought? I thought I was sitting at
the cool kids table with that one. Apparently apparently not
Eric in Wisconsin. What have you got for me?
Speaker 5 (35:27):
It's shoel great to be on again too. Hey. I
think what's going on in the big cities across the
country is that we are seeing the Stockholm syndrome going on.
You know, why are people voting a certain way when
it's against their certain interests? And this is what Trump is,
I think, is addressing. He's sending these agents into these
big cities and it is the most visible way to
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start chipping it away, chipping away of what's going on
relative to the Stockholm syndrome. And when you really take
a look at the anger of the Democrat leaders, who
is cities are being you know, not invaded, but who
are you know, where they're coming into. They are so
upset because they know Trump is going to address this.
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And when you take a look at Maslov's hierarchy of needs,
the government's already taking care of the physiological part, the food,
the shelter, and so forth. What's the next step up?
It's safety. And if people are going to see safety
done immediately, people are going to start changing their minds
in the big cities. And this is why the Democrats
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are so so I think.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You've stumbled onto the real answer here, my friend. Thank
you for calling in. If Trump is successful, what then
they can't allow him to be successful because people being
a lot safer, they appreciate that there's there's a real
shift that can happen. Producer Mark are our comics expert,
is waged in. I think Superman versus Hulk would make
(36:53):
more sense. They both have superpowers. Iron Man is a
rich guy with a cool suit that just gives him power.
I mean, but it is like a really cool suit.
He flies, he's got lasers. I think we're under I mean, okay,
Mark has weight in. I'll take his I'll take his
judgment on this one. But I wasn't I wasn't that
far off. Katie Porter is uh coming up next this
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viral exchange she had. She wants to be the next
governor of California, following in new Scum's footsteps. We'll talk
about it.
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Continuing Government Shutdown edition.
And I got a lot of news to talking about today,
and we're going to be joined by a couple of
Senators to discuss some of it. Senator Ran Paul in
(00:52):
the second hour, Senator Ron Johnson in the third hour.
I am here in our nation's capital, so figure should
talk to some of the lawmens and legislators and people
making the decisions. And they have a little more time
on their hands because of this shutdown situation. We've also
got Trump weighing heavily on the National Guard deployment to Chicago.
(01:15):
He's got some choice Trump words. James Comy his trial.
I've got updates for you on that. I've also got
a well, some Pambondi hearing stuff that we can discuss
a little bit of. I just wanted to start with
this though. DC is absolutely lovely right now. It is
(01:37):
incredible being here now. Some of it might be the
increase in safety because of the Trump agenda, but just
hear me out, the government shutdown means that this city
is wide open. There's no one clogging the streets, the
roadways are wide open. You can drive anywhere. It is
(01:57):
a ghost town in all the best ways. So I'm
having a great time. I'm walking around the broad boulevards,
barely a soul in sight. The restaurants, you can get
a table anywhere. I can drive around. DC has among
the worst traffic congestion areas in the entire country. DC
is pretty much always a top five contender and often
(02:20):
a top three for the worst traffic. And you have
hundreds of thousands of government workers who are currently on furlough,
not going into these massive federal buildings pushing a bunch
of paper around. So the city is great. I gotta
say this shutdown, it's a fantastic time to be in
this town and having some meetings with various stakeholders and
(02:43):
movers and shakers here, some of it off the record,
but it's interesting stuff that's going on, that much, I
can tell you. Some people are saying very interesting meetings,
very interesting for mister Buck. But yeah, I have to
check in on my people here in DC. Sometimes I'm
just saying it's a great time. But why should you
care that?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
What do we need all these government workers for? If
everything seems fine without them going to their jobs. I
think it's a fair ask. Remember the Pentagon is still
going public safety. There's essential and non essential services in
this town, and the non essential includes a lot of
people who I think are remote remote workers anyway or
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have been. And everything seems to be functioning just fine.
I don't know. Maybe if you have to wait in
line longer than normal, or you can't get into the
certain areas of a national park, you're upset. But for me,
walking around our nation's capital, it feels like the swamp
has been cleared. It's great, and I think that it's
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a reminder that we have a massive and bloated federal
bureaucracy and if there are some changes made to that
as part of the shutdown, to me, that is a
good thing. That is a good thing. But yeah, I
think this is one of the You have perfect weather,
no bureaucrats, and you can drive anywhere here in this
(04:09):
town now in less than ten minutes. This is the
best version of DC I can remember. Right, This is great.
So I'm having a lot of fun here and I'm
down here of course in our DC iHeart studio. All right. Now,
with that said, we've got some updates on a whole
range of things. Oh, this is what I was looking
for when I started off the show. Katie Porter, we
(04:31):
will discuss this. She's running for governor. She's a congresswoman.
She is not a particularly affable one and may have
done some real damage Durr campaign. You're just gonna have
to hear this exchange, but I will play that one
for you. Has gone megaviral. She can be very nasty,
(04:52):
kind of a nasty exchange with a journalist who's trying
to ask her some questions. So we will get We
will get to that as well, Katie Porter situation. But
as I had to mention to you, we have as
of this morning update here on the James Comy trial.
I believe it is going to be happening January fifth.
(05:16):
It is set for so that's pretty quick. They're they're
moving pretty fast on this one. And here is Fox
News is Bill Hammer. This is from this morning just
with that breaking news and laying out some of what's
going on here for Sanktacomy play it. Here is the
breaking news.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
The former FBI director James Comby in front of a
judge moments ago and a hearing that we did not
think would last long.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
And apparently that is the case.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
He has entered a plea of not guilty to two
charges federal level. Now are producers inside the courtroom say
the former director accused of lying to Congress obstructing a
congressional proceeding. End of the plea moments ago in front
of the judge Michael Knockmanoff appointed by Joe not guilty
(06:01):
on both federal charges. He's accused of lying in front
of Congress back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So that is the update inside the courtroom. So now
he's going to trial. One of the most hilarious arguments
against this that I keep seeing all over the place
from the Libs is, oh my gosh, the precedent that
has been set here, What would you do, Republicans if
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people started to use prosecutors' offices as weapons of politics?
And to this, you just want to say, have you
been asleep for the last decade? Do you have any
idea what has gone on with four different criminal cases
brought against Donald Trump, all of which were bogus civil
cases brought against Trump by the State of New York
(06:48):
in one case, and by a woman who claims from
thirty years ago, thirty something years ago, Trump grabbed her
in a department store. The stuff that they have done,
the lawfair they have done against Trump and his family
alone has done tremendous damage to the public's faith in
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all of these different facets of our criminal justice system,
or just our justice system of the courts too, because
some of it was civil. This is atrocious. I mean,
the things that have gone on here, the precedents that
have already been set. Now they want to tell us
we should be worried about going too far in the
other direction. No, they already did this. In fact, what
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they have done, what the Democrats have done specifically with
the targeted lawfair against Donald Trump, among many others. It's
really Trump and Trump world, everybody who is Trump adjacent
all the way to January sixth, defendants, right, it's the
whole Trump movement that they have used the prosecutor's office.
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They have used lawfare as a tool as a weapon
to to ruin lives, to put tremendous pressure on people,
to financially drain them, to undermine them, to malign them,
to defame them. All of that they have already done.
They sent an FBI team tomorrow lago and they went
(08:16):
through Malania's sock drawer. And libs want to lecture us
about James Comy, who allegedly lied under oath facing the music.
I'm sorry, is there some special carve out for being
a six foot ten jerk who uses the law in
order to puff himself up and is part of his
(08:38):
own just malignant narcissism. Is there some carve out where
he doesn't have to actually face the music the way
that he has made so many others and I think
entrapped people and abuse the law. Most notably General Flynn.
I like to fill in these gaps too, so no
one can say, well, you just said he's abusing, and
no I like to give you the specifics to remind everybody,
(08:58):
to remind everybody that James Comy thought it was funny
to use the Logan Act, which no serious human being
thinks anybody can or would be prosecuted under, as a
total pretext. It's like the equivalent of a swatting call.
It is a bad faith use of law enforcement to
go after the General Michael Flynn, the incoming National Security advisor.
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I know it feels like that was a long time ago,
but there hasn't been Well maybe you don't feel that way,
but they'll say that, but there's been no justice for that.
That ambush hasn't been punished. And James Comy thinks that
he's a clever guy for the whole thing, and he
thinks that what was that book? I think was Higher Power?
Is that right? Higher Power or something like that? I'm
(09:45):
now the real question you might ask is is James
Comy's book a more brutal read than Kamala is one
hundred and seven Days. I cannot answer that question because
I haven't read Comy's book, but I will tell you
that is some if competition. That is, you know, Superman
versus Iron Man with the like the super suit.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean, that is tough stuff, really really preposterous that
James Comy would think anybody would want to read his
memoir and on his book tour. But such as things are,
he is now facing the music and there's the possibility.
I think it's slim. I don't want to over promise
and under deliver, ever on this show, I think it
is slim. But here's what I will tell that he
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will actually be convicted because it's it's a Northern Virginia jury.
I was just saying, how much fun, how much fun
DC is with no government bureacrats running around. They all
live in Arlington mostly, you know, they live a lot
of them inside or just outside of the Beltway. It's
going to be a very favorable pool for James Comy.
(10:48):
But here's why I view this is so important. The
message is received, whether Comy is found guilty or not,
the message is received that there will at least be
an effort to hold the other side to the law
and not create a system. This is really important a
system where we are held to an extra legal standard
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and they are held to a sub legal standard, or
rather they get to break the law and get away
with it. Meanwhile, they get to prosecute us Trump for
not breaking the law, and we do nothing in response.
We have to at least establish that we will bring
charges against people who have been involved in this law
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fair involved in using the government, the deep state, however
you want to describe it, to take out people for
purely political reasons. Well, if they break the law in
that process, there will be some form of accountability. And
now there is going to be I think a pretty
high probability just based on the jury pool that calm
me will be found. In my mind, he'll be found
(11:55):
not guilty. He'll be acquitted on this. But let's see,
let's see, it's a pretty straightforward thing. Did he lie
or did he not lie? Let's see what kind of
case the process. I know, I don't want to I
don't want to prejudge anything here. Let's see what is
produced in that court. You don't need to call me
and say, buck, you're already getting ahead of the cart
(12:16):
before the horse here, I know, But I just I
like to manage our expectations for where this is going.
It's it's still a steep climb. This is a little
bit of ice skating uphill here to think that James
Comey is going to actually be convicted. But the fact
that the charge has been brought alone sends a message
we are not going to just lie down and accept
(12:38):
a two tiered system of justice in this town, Washington, DC,
or anywhere else for that matter. And that is important.
That is something that we all have to recognize as
a necessary step because otherwise it's, you know, heads they win,
tails we lose. Did I do that one right? That's
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always always feel like I'm gonna get that one. It's
like Bush when he's like fool me once, can't get
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. I've been warning people
for years about this Comy guy, and I wish if
the president at the time had pulled me aside and
asked me early on in his first term, I would
have shared all you have to know about James Comy.
You would know from the way he acted with respect
(15:15):
to the Martha Stewart prosecution, a prosecution that nobody in
his office but him wanted to bring a prosecution for
which there was no crime, not even any money made
or lost. It was just the whole thing was absurd.
And Martha Stewart is a huge Democrat who does not
like Trump and does not like Republicans. And this is
just about what's what's fair and decent. It's not about politics.
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But Komy really has always thought of himself as like
the high priest of the DOJ. So much of Komy,
I will tell you this, so much of Komy reminds
me of Fauci. Fauci is like the the you know,
the the Liliputian version of Komy. They have the same
(15:59):
person soonality type. They pretend it's all about the cause
of the institution, it's really all about them. And they
get this uh, this solyopsism word of the day, solepsism
from all of this, and you like that one. That
producer rally likes that one. And I'm not the only
one warning you about this guy, or have been warning
(16:21):
about this guy for a long time. The great Rush
Limbaugh back in twenty nineteen, he saw exactly who James
Comy was and also knew about his past, which we
should all be reminded. I've played two.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
How many of you have heard or thought that James
call me was a lifelong Republican. I have I've always
thought that James call Me was a lifelong Republican. I've
been told that James call Me as a lifelong Republican.
Turns out not to be true. Are you wearing of
James Comey used to be a Communist. In a two
thousand and three interview with New York Magazine, James call
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Mey said before voting for Jamie Jimmy Carter nineteen eighty,
he'd been a communist. He admitted, I'd moved from communists
to whatever I am. Now now we know that John Brennan,
Obama's CIA director, was a Communist, or at least had
voted for the Communist Party, But I had never heard
(17:19):
this about Komy. Now we find out that under Obama,
the CIA director and the FBI director both had histories
of not just flirtation, but serious immersion into communism. And
like the KGB always said, no one ever leaves the KGB,
(17:42):
nobody ever leaves this way of thinking.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Isn't that interesting? You start to see how for some
of these individuals there was an ideological foundation of communism.
And these are people who are at the top of
the national security operat us in this country in recent years.
Communism and then they become some malleable chameleon in politics,
(18:10):
just so they can weave their way through the bureaucracy.
But do you think they've ever really changed their collectivist foundation.
Rush didn't think that Komi had, or Brendan for that matter,
and he was right. He warned us about this, and
now perhaps there will be some accountability for the misdeeds
that were done. But we're not going to hold our
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facing a trial in January for allegedly lying to Congress.
And here we have a talkback from Jeff in Salt
Lake City on this specific issue. Let's play AA on
the talkbacks. Hey, Buck, I just wanted to repeat the
Democrat talking point that nobody is above the law even
(19:53):
if you're six foot ten. I like it, well done.
Comy is very tall. He might even be Jesse Kelly.
I hit my head on the ceilings of every building
in America. Tall I think. I mean Comy and Jesse
Kelly are in that same you know, Oh, I can't
see in an airplane seats because my knees are you know,
(20:13):
up around my years or whatever. It's like, okay, buddy,
you know, very tall, almost seven footers. I don't think either,
of them played basketball either, so they've got that in common.
There you go, separated at birth. I don't know Jesse,
so yes, Komy is a very tall fellow and he
should not be above the law. This, of course, is
upsetting all of the Democrats out there. This is upsetting
(20:36):
the Democrats who are trying to now convince I don't
think that they believe they're gonna convince us with this,
but it's a talking point that they put out there
for the consumption of their own side, their own audience.
Or they will say things like, but what about the president?
You're setting here and here is Politico's White House correspondence.
This has cut twenty six. Listen to this argument.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
This opens up bit of a Pandora's box, right, not
just for this administration, but for future administrations that may
want to follow suit, Republican or Democrat. This is unprecedented
and it creates some precedent for this kind of action
from a president and a Justice Department that follows that
kind of direction.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'm sorry, was she asleep for the last four years?
You really have to wonder does she not understand what
has been happening in this country? We had a presidential
candidate and former president under indictment in four different cases,
the first time it had ever happened, and then they
(21:40):
did it four times. So they're going to try to
tell us about the president that it sets now, Oh
my gosh, James, call me. This is madness. And never
mind the fact that you had senior Trump advisors who
went to prison Okay Navarro and been in are older gentlemen,
(22:02):
and they had to pick which bunk bed they were
sleeping in for like six months. They went to prison
because they stood on their principles and refused to bend
the knee to the Democrat law. Fair they actually serve
time over that, and there are others in the Trump
orbit who have as well. But we're supposed to weep.
(22:23):
We're supposed to be upset about the precedent that is
set by James Comy. Maybe, and it's a big maybe,
maybe facing some form of justice here. Just understand this
Comy's perfectly happy sending other people to prison many times
over for lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, lying,
whatever the case may be. He had no problem with that.
(22:46):
James Comy didn't shed a tear for all the people
over all the years that he was in the FBI,
or that he was a federal prosecutor, in which case
he was really making the decisions right. FBI investigates, but
the FBI will refer they work very hand in glove
with US attorneys with ausas, and so if if the
FBI hands a case over, they're like, well, we think
this guy's you know, go get him. US attorney's usually
(23:09):
gonna say yeah, okay, and they do. But Kome's been
on both sides of that coin. Remember, Comy has never
had a badge and a gun and tackled a bad
guy to the ground in his life. That's an important
aspect of this as well. It's like, oh, the FBI director,
he's a lawman, he's a you know, he's a g man.
He's a guy that no, he's he's a lawyer and
a scummy one. So that's something that I think you
(23:31):
have to keep in mind here as well, that Komy
was perfectly willing to send. That's why the Martha Stewart
example I think is so powerful. I know it's a
long time ago, almost like twenty years now, but it
still goes to show you he doesn't shed a tear
for other people when they are separated from their family, humiliated,
reputation ruined for the most for the most minor transgression
(23:54):
under the most strict reading of federal statute. So why
should why should uh this not be a case of
what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
That's the phrase, right, yes, just making sure. So the
only reason I know what to get, Like, did you
know what a gander was? Other than that, I never
you know, have you ever been with somebody with they point,
(24:15):
They're like, look at the gander. You know what I mean?
I don't know. I've never had that one. So at
least I know the I got the phrase right, which
is which is important. So yes, Komy is facing all
this and now okay, let's do some Let's do some
talk about this situation in uh oh oh, sorry, I
(24:36):
was pulling this up situation in Chicago, but I wanted
to note something because I keep telling you with respect
to Taipei, Taiwan, please go listen to the interview I did.
It's up at clanbuck dot com with the President Taiwan.
I got picked up by Bloomberg. It's been picked up
by a lot of news organizations around the world. Now
he says some really important stuff. He says at President Trump,
is that is the deciding factor here to create peace
(24:57):
or to sustain peace in that area. And if you does,
and he thinks he will, he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize just for that. So a lot of a
lot of reason. I think to listen to that if
you can. But there's also what I the case that
I've been making to you is, look at how safe
(25:17):
it is. This this this is going to translate to
our Chicago and Portland discussion here in just a second.
But I said, look at how safe it is in Taipei, Taiwan.
Look at what it's like there, And the same thing
is true in Tokyo. There are a number of cities.
Norway has incredibly low crime rate and very nice fjords,
but very low crime rate. And or is that Sweden?
(25:39):
I might have just actually I might have just swedened Norway.
Do they they both have fjords, right? Do they both
call them fjords? Whatever? So this is why I got
a crack research team here. They're going to correct me
on my fjords, Ganders and fjords. We're learning, we're learning
all kinds of new things people say to me in
response to this, I got a lot of First of all,
(25:59):
some folks you're saying, is it's just nice to observe that.
It's nice to know that that is possible. But what
a lot of even conservatives were saying to me online
when I shared that experience in Taiwan, it's just there's
just no crime. Worrying about being brutally carjacked or something
(26:20):
in Taiwan is like worrying about a shark attack in
two feet of water. It can happen, but I don't
think you're really gonna worry about it. You know it's
not impossible, but you don't, whereas there are other places
where you know, you're jumping in the water, they're chumming
the water, and there's already some big fins, you know,
like you've got problems.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's very different mentality, very different situation. But people kept
saying to me, oh, but it's so different there, and
specifically the cases of Taiwan Japan. I would add Norway
to that list because they say those are cohesive, high
trust cultures. Now that is true, true, but there's something
(27:01):
out There's there's another layer, there's another part of this
argument that I want conservatives, I want the right, I
want the Trump team, some of whom are listening right now.
Hey guys, I want them to know this and have
this one ready to deploy, because this is important. People
will somewhat dismiss the low crime miracle, if you will,
(27:25):
of a Taiwana, tokyoa Norway, Switzerland kind of has a
similarish a level of crime. They'll dismiss it because I'll say, well,
that's their small country. Well, Japan's not a small country,
but in Taiwan's got twenty three million people, it's not
that small. But the cultural cohesiveness that that everyone is.
It's places that are not that are not you know,
(27:45):
multi lingual and diverse places that there is a high
level of societal trust. Okay, well what about Al Salvador.
This is really I keep telling everybody there's a reason
the media doesn't want to talk about Al Salvador, and
they want I want to do everything possible in this
country to undermine Boukeley, who is responsible for a miraculous turnaround.
(28:09):
Rudy Giuliani himself would give Bukeale a high five because
remember Rudy had the New York miracle, with crime. He
would give Bukali a high five for what he has
done in Al Salvador. In twenty fifteen, ten years ago,
El Salvador was at a one hundred and three homicides
(28:32):
per one hundred thousand residents. That is, if not at
that time the highest in the world, it was top three,
and it might have been the highest Honduras, El Salvador,
these countries were going back and forth, but let's just
say it was basically the highest murder rate in the
world for a country not at war, right, you don't
count war deaths the same way, but for homicides, Al
(28:55):
Salvador was the single most dangerous place. It's certainly, you know,
top three in the world, and very different. I don't think.
I don't think anybody needs an explanation, very different culturally
and otherwise from Japan and Norway, and it's a Latin
American country. Al Salvador in this year had one one
(29:23):
murder per hundred thousand residents, a hundred times reduction in
the murder rate in ten years. So I don't want
to hear this fatalism from people that, oh, that's only possible.
You can only make streets safe, you can only make
people feel like their wives and daughters can jog alone
(29:46):
at night without a care in the world other than traffic.
You can only do that in places like Japan and
Taiwan and Norway and Switzerland and Monaco, you know, places
like that. It's not true. And what should be happening
right now is the rest of Latin America. I mean,
the crime rate in some of these Latin American countries
(30:07):
is still astonishing. Parts of Mexico are very safe, but
parts of Mexico are among the most dangerous places in
the world. Now, it's a big country, so that brings
the overall number down a bit. But uh, Kolima, Mexico,
which is in the central south, I would guess you'd
say on a map it controls. It's a city nearby
(30:30):
to one of the main Pacific ports where all the
fentanyl precursors are coming in. That is the city that,
certainly last year had the highest murder rate in the world.
It was the most it's just a cartel war going
on there, highest murder rate in the world. And the
truth is any Latin American country, and really any country
can do what El Salvador has done, and what Buqueli
(30:51):
deserves a standing ovation for which he is getting from
his people. By the way, despite how much the Washington
Post hates him, and despite how much CNN tries to
undermine him, because it's possible here too, you get the
crime you tolerate. Society makes a choice. It does not
have to be this way. And for everybody who is
(31:13):
dismissing a little bit of what I saw in Taiwan,
I say, okay, El Salvador is pretty much as safe
as Taiwan, now pretty close. You want to explain that
one to me. If they can do it, why can't Chicago.
If they can do it, why can't other places in
this country with high crime rates. The Portland situation is
(31:33):
a little different. That's more about anarchy, disorder and stopping ice.
It's a slightly different law enforcement issue there. They don't
have a super high murder rate, which is a good thing.
But in countries where they do, there really is no
argument that it has to be this way. There's just
people who don't want to face reality and people who
are ignorant of what is possible. And enough is enough.
(31:55):
And I think this is why Donald Trump is absolutely
on the right track with it. And like I said,
just even hear the statistic one hundred and three murders
per one hundred thousand ten years ago in El Salvador
one per one hundred thousand murders last year. That's telling
you something, isn't it?
Speaker 8 (32:13):
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Speaker 2 (33:44):
All right, we'll get some of your calls and talkbacks here,
of course, welcome back into the show. We'll discuss the
Katie Porter for Governor situation, the meltdown that happened during
an interview. Very nasty, very nasty woman. I don't know
why people in California can't see to a better candidate
(34:05):
than this, but she is very likely, it is believed
to be the next governor of California, which again I'm
I'm a reality based conservative always. California is an amazing state,
a beautiful state. I'm a big fan of it as
a place, and there are lots of great people there.
But man, that government is not good. State government is
(34:29):
not good. Let's take well, actually, let's get to this
talk back here. Bb Josh from Oklahoma hit.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
It hey Buck Josh from Oklahoma loved the show, but
I gotta say bad form on the analogy. If you're
gonna do analogies, stick to tennis, because, if anything, it
should be Superman versus the Hulk.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Why why can't it be Superman versus Iron Man. Isn't
that DC and Marvel? Isn't that a crossover? I don't
understand why Superman versus the Hulk. There was a movie
that was Superman versus Batman. It was not a good movie.
But do you know, Producer Mark is my he can
text me, he's my Marvel Universe and DC Comics experts.
(35:10):
So Producer Mark, you're the judge on this one. Can
you can you make a call? Here was my was
my iron Man Superman analogy?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Really?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That off? I thought? I thought I was sitting at
the cool kids table with that one. Apparently apparently not
Eric in Wisconsin. What have you got for me?
Speaker 5 (35:27):
It's shoel great to be on again too. Hey. I
think what's going on in the big cities across the
country is that we are seeing the Stockholm syndrome going on.
You know, why are people voting a certain way when
it's against their certain interests? And this is what Trump is,
I think, is addressing. He's sending these agents into these
big cities and it is the most visible way to
(35:47):
start chipping it away, chipping away of what's going on
relative to the Stockholm syndrome. And when you really take
a look at the anger of the Democrat leaders, who
is cities are being you know, not invaded, but who
are you know, where they're coming into. They are so
upset because they know Trump is going to address this.
(36:10):
And when you take a look at Maslov's hierarchy of needs,
the government's already taking care of the physiological part, the food,
the shelter, and so forth. What's the next step up?
It's safety. And if people are going to see safety
done immediately, people are going to start changing their minds
in the big cities. And this is why the Democrats
(36:30):
are so so I think.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
You've stumbled onto the real answer here, my friend. Thank
you for calling in. If Trump is successful, what then
they can't allow him to be successful because people being
a lot safer, they appreciate that there's there's a real
shift that can happen. Producer Mark are our comics expert,
is waged in. I think Superman versus Hulk would make
(36:53):
more sense. They both have superpowers. Iron Man is a
rich guy with a cool suit that just gives him power.
I mean, but it is like a really cool suit.
He flies, he's got lasers. I think we're under I mean, okay,
Mark has weight in. I'll take his I'll take his
judgment on this one. But I wasn't I wasn't that
far off. Katie Porter is uh coming up next this
(37:14):
viral exchange she had. She wants to be the next
governor of California, following in new Scum's footsteps. We'll talk
about it.
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