June 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with Clay Travis broadcasting solo from Washington, D.C., while Buck Sexton is away on business. Clay opens the hour by discussing his time in the Capitol with his son, who is interning for TN Senator Bill Hagerty. He then pivots to a major breaking news story: a landmark 6-3 U.S. Supreme Court ruling upholding Tennessee’s law banning gender transition procedures for minors. This decision, which Clay strongly supports, becomes the central focus of the hour. Clay emphasizes the importance of protecting children from irreversible medical procedures such as puberty blockers and gender-affirming surgeries. He argues that minors are not mature enough to make life-altering decisions and compares the issue to existing legal restrictions on tattoos, alcohol, and car rentals for young people. He criticizes what he describes as the “woke ideology” influencing medical professionals and parents, and calls for federal legislation to ban gender transition surgeries for minors nationwide. Throughout the hour, Clay repeatedly refers to the President Donald Trump, highlighting how the Trump administration has addressed transgender issues and how the media frames these debates. He critiques the Washington Post’s coverage of the Supreme Court ruling, calling it biased and misleading. The show also features a call-in segment with listeners, including a nurse practitioner who cites research from the now-closed Tavistock Clinic in the UK. She discusses the psychological factors behind gender dysphoria and the long-term negative outcomes of medical transitions. Other callers share personal stories and concerns about the cultural and political climate surrounding transgender youth. Clay concludes the hour by previewing upcoming topics, including the Iran-Israel conflict, and interviews scheduled for later in the show with Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti and Senator Bill Cassidy. He also touches briefly on sports headlines, including the Florida Panthers’ Stanley Cup victory, the NBA Finals, and Caitlin Clark’s performance in the WNBA. This hour is a must-listen for those interested in Supreme Court decisions, transgender youth legislation, parental rights, and conservative perspectives on gender identity issues. It blends legal analysis, cultural commentary, and listener engagement, all framed within the broader political landscape of 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in The Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Wednesday edition.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I am
in Washington, d C. Buck remains on the French rivi Era,
meeting with all the advertisers, probably with I don't know
what the rose. I don't know what the preferred drink
(00:25):
of the French rivi era is, but as we speak,
it is evening in France, and I bet he's got
a rose on the beach somewhere chatting with advertisers desperate
to get into this show.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Appreciate all of you. I am in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I've been up here for two weeks with my oldest
son doing an internship with Senator Bill Haggerty's office in
the Senate. He has loved it, and I appreciate Senator
Haggerty for keeping he and his debate partner busy and
learning a lot. So I will be back in Nashville tomorrow,
but it has been an eventful time to be up here.
(01:01):
By the way, the reason I'm going to be back
is is probably not going to shock you. The Federal government,
at least at Congress is shut for two days for
the Juneteenth Holiday.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This is real. They are off Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I gotta have two days of not working because of
the Juneteenth Holiday. So that is why we are headed back,
because Congress is going to be shut down and as
a result, they are not going to be working on
Capitol Hill. And so yeah, I you know on my calendar.
I don't know about you, but I hadn't blocked off
the Juneteenth holiday. I will be with all of you,
(01:40):
not taking two days to celebrate Juneteenth, but we will.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We'll be back. I'll be back in Nashville on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And the reason I was saying, I'm back in Nashville,
my home state, my home city. And I was proud
this morning when I woke up and a major Supreme
Court decision came down that we have talked about on
this program. And I think it's not a revolutionary idea,
it's not a crazy idea. But the state of Tennessee
(02:08):
decided that miners would not be allowed to have their
gender change. They would not allow this phrase gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
To take place.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They wouldn't let you, if you're fourteen get your boobs
chopped off. They wouldn't let you if you're fifteen or sixteen.
I hate to be graphic, but get your penis chopped
off because you think you're a girl, or more sadly,
because your parents think that you are a boy or
girl in a different body. They wouldn't allow you to
get puberty blockers, which have been shown to sometimes sterilize people.
(02:44):
And they wouldn't allow these surgeries which can and treatments
which can. As I just mentioned, you're doing something at
thirteen or fourteen years old that might keep you from
growing up and having children one day. That is crazy,
and I have been saying on this program for a
very long time. Strip it away from this gender related issues.
(03:09):
In most states, you cannot get your fourteen year old
a tattoo legally without being prosecuted as a parent. And
that doesn't even consider what your spouse might do to you.
If I came back from Washington, DC and my son
(03:30):
had an arm sleeve tattoo, I think my wife would
murder me. I'm not kidding about it. He is seventeen.
If I came back from Washington, DC and she was like, well,
how did the internship?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
How did you do.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Being responsible for our oldest son for two weeks, and
I said, well, it went great. And you know, we
were out one night and I thought to myself, we
should go into a tattoo parlor, and so I got
him a full back tattoo. It looks awesome. I think
she would murder me. I'm not even kidding. I think
(04:03):
my wife would look at me, would turn, would walk
into the closet, get the gun, come back and just
shoot me and say you can't be trusted anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And it would be prosecutable.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Sometimes I feel like in this world in which we
live in, we have forgotten that there were other generations
before us, and they had some small measure of wisdom.
And one of those elements of wisdom which everyone who
has ever been a teenager before in life has come
(04:39):
to as you get older, is yeah, lots of times
teenagers are morons. It would probably be better if we
didn't have them make a tremendous amount of life altering
decisions at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. What you think
at fourteen is often not what you're going to think
(04:59):
at twe four forty four, sixty four. And everybody out
there listening right now you're all nodding. As I have
said for some time, speaking as a former teenage boy,
no one is dumber in the entire history of the
world at any age than teenage boys. They think, and
we used to think, we are the coolest people who ever,
(05:21):
who have ever lived. No one has a larger sense
of self regard and a lower sense of actual talent
than a sixteen year old boy of any age at
any point in history. You all know it, You've all
seen it. And as a result, sixteen year old boys
often make disastrous decisions. The most dangerous drivers on the
(05:44):
planet sixteen year old boys. So we say, as a society, hey,
you know what, let's try and limit some of the
decisions that more on teenagers can make that might have
incredibly devastating impact for them as adults. I'll give you
some examples. We don't let kids even rent cars. I
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believe I am correct that you have to be twenty
five years old to rent a car in most states
in this country right now. We don't allow most I
believe I'm correct on this too. We don't allow most
eighteen year olds to rent hotel rooms because we don't
trust what they might do in the hotel room. We
(06:33):
don't let twenty year olds actually by beer in this country.
Yet you're gonna tell me that a twelve or thirteen
year old should make the life altering decision that they're
not the gender that they are in their body. Now,
I don't even blame the kids, I really don't. I
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blame the parents who are allowing this to become a react.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You ever, notice how the more left wing you are,
the more likely you are to have trans kids. This
is the reality.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
There's lots of people in Hollywood that have multiple trans kids.
The idea of one parent having multiple trans kids is
statistically off the charts improbable. Yet it's happening all the
time in LA, it's happening all the time in New York.
The richer you are, the more of a celebrity you are,
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the more likely you are to have a trans kid.
Does that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Of course not. And so we have made a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Of decisions about the choices that kids should be able
to make and that their parents should be able to
make on their behalf. And we're going to talk at
two o'clock Eastern on this program with the Attorney General
of Tennessee, Jonathan Scermetti, who just won a six' to
Three Supreme court decision saying in the state Of, tennessee
you cannot treat someone to change their gender when they
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are a. Minor this is hyper, rational this is basic common.
Sense the fact that we have such a delusion in
this country that all three left wing Judges Kagan sodomayor
And Katanji Brown jackson would all say the state shouldn't
be allowed to do this is a sign of incredible
(08:27):
mental illness on the left and how this woke virus
has spread that we have gotten here. AGAIN i would
just like to ask those three justices do you believe that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Fourteen year old should be able to get full body?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
TATTOOS i bet they would say, No, well the tattoo
is less significant medically than potentially sterilizing a child at
fourteen years, old which they are arguing the state should
not be able to.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Prohibit and SO i JUST i look at.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
IT i mean, AGAIN i think of this in the
context of, tattoos because it's a body altering in some way.
Procedure AND i don't think there's anybody in The Supreme
court right now who would, say, hey we are going
to disallow a state from prohibiting minors from getting. Tattoos that,
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is in other, WORDS i think Nine Supreme court justices would, say,
yeah it's in the state's interest to allow us all
kids restricted from being able to get. Tattoos yet they're
going to say that it shouldn't be permissible for a
state to stop. This i'm sure there's knucklehead fourteen and
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fifteen year old kids out there that have wanted to
get tattoos and have wanted to sue their parents for
not allowing it or the state for not allowing. It
but we would overwhelmingly, say, well that's. Appropriate so somehow
it has become orthodoxy on the left to allow. This
we'll talk about this With Jonathan. Scermadi but here's WHAT
i want to say. Too we should have national legislation
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to stop this from. Happening AND i mean, AGAIN i
want to reiterate this because it's important because the result
here and Bravo, tennessee my home state for getting this
done and winning this. Case but the result is going to, be,
well we'll just travel To illinois and have this, surgery
or we'll just travel To New york and have this.
(10:32):
SURGERY a world just traveled To. California gender surgeries on
minors should be prohibited. Nationwide we shouldn't be allowing A
tennesseean or An, alabamian or A georgian or A texan
or A floridian to get on an airplane and travel
somewhere to get their genitals chopped. Off this is just
(10:57):
crazy town and the fact that this has Become Democrat party.
ORTHODOXY i just Read i'm IN dc right. NOW i
just read The Washington post headline on This Supreme court
decision AND i shared it on my social media account
ofment to go breaking. News this Is Washington. POST a
(11:18):
Divided Supreme court cleared the way for states to ban
certain gender transition treatments for. Miners even the phrasing is.
Dishonest but then listen to this a polarizing national? Issue
do you think this is really that? Polarizing every same
(11:39):
parent In america believes that miners should not be having these.
SURGERIES i think it's an eighty twenty. ISSUE i really,
do maybe ninety, ten but a polarizing national. Issue The
trump administration has seized on in initiatives targeting transgender. Rights
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do you think that trans miners have a right to
chop their penis off at. Fourteen that's what they're arguing
a transgender right. Is do you think a girls should
have a right to chop her boobs off at fifteen
(12:23):
for the rest of her? Life do you think that
there should be a right to sterilize children in The
United states because their parents happen to believe this lie That,
SADLY i, MEAN i really do feel sad for these,
kids BECAUSE i think what the data shows is they
(12:46):
are profoundly, sad many of these, kids and they're looking
for a reason why they are profoundly, Sad and like many,
kids they latch onto an idea that is oftentimes not
accurate because they're teenagers and their brains aren't fully, developed
and they, decide if ONLY i were to take this huge,
(13:10):
step THEN i would be. Happier the Reason i'm not
happy is Because i'm a boy in a girl's, body
Or i'm a girl in a boy's. Body adults should, say,
no it's probably not the reason you're. Unhappy let's work
on trying to make you happier because you're an emotional.
Teenager let's try and bring you through. This let's also
(13:34):
maybe have, conversations that it's okay to be sad and depressed,
sometimes and that part of being an adult is working
through being sad and depressed without taking drastic. Action we
don't want you to feel, like, hey When i'm sad and,
DEPRESSED i have to go grab a bottle of, liquor
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OR i have to use an illicit. Substance the best
way to deal with emotion is to work your way
through it to become a healthier. Adult it's not to
pretend the emotions are one hundred percent real and that
what you are feeling in a small moment of time
is actually representative of how you're going to feel at
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thirty four or sixty four or hopefully ninety four one.
Day and SO i just feel like we have failed
in many parts of this country kids and pretending that
this is a normal thing and that we should in some,
why some ways affirm their necessity of these awful. Surgeries
we'll talk about it and we come. Back i'll take
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some of your calls on, it but this is a
WIN i wanted to start. With we're also going to
update you on the Latest Iran israel. Issues we're going
to talk With senator Of Bill cassidy From louisiana bottom
of the third, hour and Again Jonathan, scurmetti The Attorney
general Of tennessee who won this Big Supreme court, ruling
will be with us top of the third. Hour but
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In i'm not, surprised but a lot of you weighing in, that,
yes there needs to be a nationwide. Band why should
a kid in a red state be able to travel
to a crazy town blue state and get his genitals
chopped off there?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Anyway, anyway it should be legal, anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And it's, Absolute it's absolutely Bar barrick AND i think
a generation from. Now Producer ali was just, saying as
more and more of these young kids are detransitioning and, realizing, hey,
yeah that was a really bad. Decision many of them
are gonna want to have kids and they've made the
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life altering decision to change their. Gender i've had a
ton of you out there were tom boys when you
were growing. Up you ran around wearing boy. Clothes maybe
some of you out there ran around doing feminine things
and then you grew up and you had your testosterone
or your estrogen pump into you as a puberty kid
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turning into an, adult and things even out for.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
You i'm going to keep hammering this BECAUSE i think it's.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
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Clay lot's going.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
On by the, way we're gonna play a bunch of
different clips for you of some of the craziness going.
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Supreme court six', three, says hey we can't chop the
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genitals off minors in the State. Of, Tennessee, now crazily
it's still allowed in Many other. Blue states it's Allowed,
in california it's Allowed, in illinois it's Allowed In, new york.
For instance my, concern, is, okay well you're just gonna
have kids crossing into. Other states we need federal legislation
(19:28):
that is going to prevent this from. Happening nationwide it's
just basic. Common SENSE and i think most of you
probably agree. With me and, you know this is one
of those Things where i'm out and sometimes when this
topic is, COMING up i meet, you guys and you
come up to ME and i can't tell you the
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number of women in particular who have come up to me, and,
SAID hey i love, The Show love outkicks, sports fan
appreciate what You and. BUCK do i was, a tomboy
AND when i was ten, OR eleven i ran around
playing sports all the time. WITH boys i didn't want to.
WEAR dresses i like to play rough. With boys maybe you,
(20:12):
had BROTHERS maybe i had boys. Around you and, these women,
They say i'm concerned that if it had been this,
modern era somebody might have sat down with me, and
said do you feel more like a boy than, A,
girl well maybe you're just in the. Wrong body maybe
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instead of letting eleven and twelve year old girls, grow
up actually become women who, have kids like many of
these women that are coming up, To me maybe that's
a healthier thing than presuming that a miner knows what
in the world they're.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
TALKING about, i, MEAN look i have.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Three kids my three year old and four year old
thought he Was a jedi for a. Long time we
let him dress up As, a jedi we let him
grow that Long like jedi braid that they're supposed to
have with.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Their hair we didn't actually think he Was. A jedi,
I mean i.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You, KNOW look, i win it would probably be really
cool if you had a kid and They had jedi
powers and, you know they could lift spaceships with their
heads and, you know with their hands and their.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Mind powers there's a lot of really cool stuff that.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Jedis do we let him dress up Like, a jedi
we let him pretend he Was. A jedi we didn't
actually take him to a doctor, and, say yeah he's A.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Real jedi.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And some of you out there had kids might have
thought they. Were dinosaurs. NOT uncommon a lot of you
have kids and they had. Imaginary friends you probably didn't
go to the doctor, and, say yeah we have not only,
one kid but we have an. Additional kid that imaginary friend.
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IS real, i mean part of being an adult is
recognizing that young kids have very expansive imaginations and that's.
Very healthy but you don't treat everything that a young.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Kid says as if. It's REAL and i just it's.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
A lot of people want to focus on, the KIDS
but i think we need to be focusing more on
the adults because the adults are old enough to.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Know better and here's the.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
SAD thing i was Talking About New, York, City la
hollywood and how many celebrities have trans kids and how common.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It is that's not about, The kid, i'm sorry that's.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The celebrity war wanting the attention because they have a
trans kid and they are. So, empathetic sadly it's not
about the kid. At all it's the celebrities narcissism of
wanting the kid to. Be unique and it's like it's
like a new fancy purse that. They have oh look
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at my. Trans kid oh we HAVE to, i mean
it doesn't add. Up otherwise think about, it statistically what
are the chances that celebrity it's like one in every
five Kids in hollywood. Is trans what are the chances
that that would happen just. Naturally organically they have decided
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this is the cause celeb that they want to pair
it and they want to carry around and it makes them,
so inclusive and the kid is the victim because kids
rely on parents to sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Say no.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The healthiest thing that can happen to a kid is
not everything that the kid says being accepted as truth by.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
The PARENT.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I just i feel so bad for these kids
that we could be in. This Situation, julianne minnesota you're a.
NURSE practitioner i Bet Because tim wallas is the. Governor
there thank you could travel right Now to minnesota and
get your genitals chopped off because they think that's what healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Childcare is.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's rough let me, Tell you i'm so appreciative that
you're talking about. This topic it's Been something i've been
very vocal about for. Years now AND what i wanted
to share is some evidence based research because as providers
were supposed to practice via the evidence And The tavistock
Clinic in england when all of this gender transition, protocol
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started that wasn't really based. In research so they decided
to do a longitudinal study and they found that the
top three reasons that people choose to transition, is autism
sex abuse or, sexual abuse and deep, seated homosexuality none
of those things which are solved. By transitioning so in
their research they found that after, one year suicide rates,
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did drop but at the sixth and seven, year mark
the suicide rates beclaim sixty to seventy percent greater than the.
General population and, they determined like with all of the
side effects that these, medications cause like, you know inability, to, orgasm,
obviously infertility like all kinds of things that the benefits
did not outraigh, the risk and they closed the, clinic
(25:35):
down largest Clinic in Europe The. United states we just
ignore that and it's, so frustrating.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
So frustrating thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
For calling in and sharing, that study and that is
a very. Important study and again we are failing, the
kids and the parents that have allowed this, TO happen
i think are failing their children in a. Massive way
but if she just laid Out as julianne just laid,
out there the, medical profession they have tried to terrify
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a lot of. Reasonable parents, your kid they're trying to
do the. Right thing this IS why i also feel
sad for. Some parents you're trying to do the. Right
thing your kid is depressed and sad and not making
good grades and. Not behaving and, every parent at some point,
in time probably certainly if you have, multiple kids one
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of your teenagers, gonna rebel do, stupid things not be
the best version. Of themselves and as, a parent your
job is to help try to make that, end right
to help get. Through that so these kids they, get online,
they're reading, oh well the Reason why i'm so sad
Is because i'm actually a girl in a, boy's body
or vice versa or whatever. It, is they, you know belabor.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
The point with.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
The parents parents take them to, a doctor and you,
know what the, doctor says would you rather have a
live daughter or a live son or? A order, they
say would you rather have a live son or a,
dead daughter basically putting the child's life in the, parent's hands,
as if if you don't allow this, to happen your
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kid is going to, commit suicide and it's going to be,
your fault, you bigot. You transphobe and then so many
parents out there they hear this, AND they, i mean
what is candidly the worst thing for most parents that
you could think.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Is that one of your children.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Commit suicide the idea of a child dying is awful
and hard for most parents to. Think about but for
a medical professional, to say your kid's going to commit
suicide's going to be your fault unless you allow me
to do this surgery, on them that's moral and intellectual
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blackmail of.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
The parent So if i'm ranking the.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Blame on, THIS situation i would put medical professionals who
are willing to do these surgeries. On miners number, ONE
overall i think this is the most egregious form of
child abuse that has ever been allowed to occur in,
our lives certainly in the twenty. First century is that
people are making millions of dollars because these surgeries, aren't
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cheap millions of dollars to forever alter. Miner's bodies there's,
something wrong in, my opinion with the morality of the
doctors involved in.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
The surgeries so that's.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Number one number two is parents who, encourage this and
number three. Is kids so medical professional who makes the
parents feel like in, the kid but the parents in
particular feel like are going to be the cause of.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A suicide.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's, indefensible, second because by, the way imagine if take
away the, gender transition if your fifteen year old daughter
came and, she, SAID hey i need to get a.
BOOB job i don't know what age they do these,
things now but you took her to a plastic surgeon
and the plastic surgeon said, to you unless you do this,
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boob job your daughter is going to.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
KILL herself i think.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Most of you out there would, be like this feels
a little excessive for. Plastic surgery unless you let your
son get this. Nose job he's gonna kill himself and
it's gonna be. YOUR fault i think most of you
out there would think that seems a little aggressive from a.
Plastic surgeon that would not be. MORALLY acceptable i. DON'T
think i hope that doesn't happen very often when you
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go in for surgery cosmetic of. Your choice if the
doctor said for things that don't address, your gender hey,
knows job, BOOB job i don't know whatever else people
are having surgery on when they're. Teenagers cosmetically they Used
to there used to be a line back in the
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Day when georgia was the only state just about In
the south that allowed scholarships for grades that there were
Like the University Of. Georgia, bulldogs yeah great football team
that kids who had college funds and had good grades
and didn't need their. Tuition dollars that the girls either
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got new SUVs or.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
New boobs, it's.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Like, congrats dad you saved fifty thousand dollars for your.
Daughter's education she gets a, hope scholarship and now that
money isn't necessary for, the tuition what are you gonna do?
With it i'm gonna buy her. An suv. And boobs
that was the joke back in. The day but that's
at least. Cosmetic surgery the idea that you would be
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in a situation where a doctor would be telling, a
parent your kid's gonna. Commit suicide unless you have gender,
altering surgery unless you let your kid chop his, penis
off he's gonna. Kill himself you can either have a
dead son or a. Living daughter that's the argument.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
They make.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's unbelievable intellectual blackmail should never. Be allowed a lot
of you want to, weigh in a lot of. Different
reactions will take some of those when we. Come back
we're going to Talk about Israel and iran in the.
Second hour but in, The meantime israel barraged with incoming
missile Attacks, from iran hundreds of missiles aimed at civilians throughout.
The country israeli's in bomb shelters at, all hours as
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let's take some of. Your calls Yvonne, in colorado what
you got? For us yvon thanks.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
For listening oh, thank You and god. Bless you you are.
So right you're taking the words right out of. My
Mouth and god Blessed the tennessee judges for the courage
to do the. Right things like, you said kids depend
on us to, protect Them and colorado. The MESS and
i want people to know nationwide and. Do so when
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you mentioned a few of the states On the east
coast and On the, west coast that right here in
the middle there's a crazy, one too and that children
are not safe mentally or physically from This. In colorado, you,
KNOW yeah i want to SAY that i. WAS also
i was, very ATHLETIC and i was a tomboy, growing
up and YOU know i did things in line with
that in. My profession.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Did we lose her there for?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
A sec, i, mean look this IS what i hear
from so, many women and it's women. In particular they
come up to me, And say Thank. The lord this
didn't EXIST when i was a KID because i was
a tomboy and SOMEBODY if i didn't, have parents if they, suddenly,
said hey do you want to be? A boy who
KNOWS what i might have SAID when i, was twelve,
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pre PUBERTY before i came.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Through adolescents Carol In, north carolina what you got? For us?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Are?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You hi thanks. FOR listening i just.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Want to let you know my son when he was
about twelve, years old he was, very small you'd got
his gross spurt till later on in. The teens and
he was sitting in the car one day and he said, To,
ME mom, i said what's wrong? With you you? Seem
sad and, HE goes i WANT to I wish i.
WAS black, i, said well why do you wish you?
Were black, he goes Because then i'd be good.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
At SPORTS and.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I know i'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
That conversation, GUESS what i didn't go try to figure
OUT how i could make. Him black, you know he's
now thirty six.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Years old you're still comfort comfortable.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
In his white. Skin now and you know most of
his friends. WERE black i guess they were bigger, than
him and he got teased a. Little bit but you
can't solve all. Their problems they have to just go.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
THROUGH it I wish i had.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
BIGGER boots i don't.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Have them thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
For calling you know what's actually funny about that is
it would be super racist for a white kid to identify, as,
BLACK right, i mean this was Basically The rachel dolazol Thing, In.
Spokane washington, they, said oh this white woman who was
pretending to be black and LEADING. THE naacp i believe
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her Name Is. Rachel dolazol this is. Totally offensive it
was offensive and unacceptable for a white woman to identify.
As black but if that same white woman had identified
as a, white man it would have been courageous and
heroic and she would deserve affirmation and anyone who disagreed
(35:38):
with her perspective would be. A, transphobe right we don't have. Trans.
Religion sorry trans race would this all, the time and
they find Out Like, elizabeth WARREN oh I thought I Was.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Native American actually.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm not people have misguided ideas of what their racial background.
Might be but transrace, is racist transgender. Is heroic if
you had to choose which is a, bigger deal your
gender or, YOUR race i think most people would say
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your gender is way harder to change than.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Your race we'll, keep rolling
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in The Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Wednesday edition.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I am
in Washington, d C. Buck remains on the French rivi Era,
meeting with all the advertisers, probably with I don't know
what the rose. I don't know what the preferred drink
(00:25):
of the French rivi era is, but as we speak,
it is evening in France, and I bet he's got
a rose on the beach somewhere chatting with advertisers desperate
to get into this show.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Appreciate all of you. I am in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I've been up here for two weeks with my oldest
son doing an internship with Senator Bill Haggerty's office in
the Senate. He has loved it, and I appreciate Senator
Haggerty for keeping he and his debate partner busy and
learning a lot. So I will be back in Nashville tomorrow,
but it has been an eventful time to be up here.
(01:01):
By the way, the reason I'm going to be back
is is probably not going to shock you. The Federal government,
at least at Congress is shut for two days for
the Juneteenth Holiday.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This is real. They are off Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I gotta have two days of not working because of
the Juneteenth Holiday. So that is why we are headed back,
because Congress is going to be shut down and as
a result, they are not going to be working on
Capitol Hill. And so yeah, I you know on my calendar.
I don't know about you, but I hadn't blocked off
the Juneteenth holiday. I will be with all of you,
(01:40):
not taking two days to celebrate Juneteenth, but we will.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We'll be back. I'll be back in Nashville on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And the reason I was saying, I'm back in Nashville,
my home state, my home city. And I was proud
this morning when I woke up and a major Supreme
Court decision came down that we have talked about on
this program. And I think it's not a revolutionary idea,
it's not a crazy idea. But the state of Tennessee
(02:08):
decided that miners would not be allowed to have their
gender change. They would not allow this phrase gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
To take place.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They wouldn't let you, if you're fourteen get your boobs
chopped off. They wouldn't let you if you're fifteen or sixteen.
I hate to be graphic, but get your penis chopped
off because you think you're a girl, or more sadly,
because your parents think that you are a boy or
girl in a different body. They wouldn't allow you to
get puberty blockers, which have been shown to sometimes sterilize people.
(02:44):
And they wouldn't allow these surgeries which can and treatments
which can. As I just mentioned, you're doing something at
thirteen or fourteen years old that might keep you from
growing up and having children one day. That is crazy,
and I have been saying on this program for a
very long time. Strip it away from this gender related issues.
(03:09):
In most states, you cannot get your fourteen year old
a tattoo legally without being prosecuted as a parent. And
that doesn't even consider what your spouse might do to you.
If I came back from Washington, DC and my son
(03:30):
had an arm sleeve tattoo, I think my wife would
murder me. I'm not kidding about it. He is seventeen.
If I came back from Washington, DC and she was like, well,
how did the internship?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
How did you do.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Being responsible for our oldest son for two weeks, and
I said, well, it went great. And you know, we
were out one night and I thought to myself, we
should go into a tattoo parlor, and so I got
him a full back tattoo. It looks awesome. I think
she would murder me. I'm not even kidding. I think
(04:03):
my wife would look at me, would turn, would walk
into the closet, get the gun, come back and just
shoot me and say you can't be trusted anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And it would be prosecutable.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Sometimes I feel like in this world in which we
live in, we have forgotten that there were other generations
before us, and they had some small measure of wisdom.
And one of those elements of wisdom which everyone who
has ever been a teenager before in life has come
(04:39):
to as you get older, is yeah, lots of times
teenagers are morons. It would probably be better if we
didn't have them make a tremendous amount of life altering
decisions at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. What you think
at fourteen is often not what you're going to think
(04:59):
at twe four forty four, sixty four. And everybody out
there listening right now you're all nodding. As I have
said for some time, speaking as a former teenage boy,
no one is dumber in the entire history of the
world at any age than teenage boys. They think, and
we used to think, we are the coolest people who ever,
(05:21):
who have ever lived. No one has a larger sense
of self regard and a lower sense of actual talent
than a sixteen year old boy of any age at
any point in history. You all know it, You've all
seen it. And as a result, sixteen year old boys
often make disastrous decisions. The most dangerous drivers on the
(05:44):
planet sixteen year old boys. So we say, as a society, hey,
you know what, let's try and limit some of the
decisions that more on teenagers can make that might have
incredibly devastating impact for them as adults. I'll give you
some examples. We don't let kids even rent cars. I
(06:10):
believe I am correct that you have to be twenty
five years old to rent a car in most states
in this country right now. We don't allow most I
believe I'm correct on this too. We don't allow most
eighteen year olds to rent hotel rooms because we don't
trust what they might do in the hotel room. We
(06:33):
don't let twenty year olds actually by beer in this country.
Yet you're gonna tell me that a twelve or thirteen
year old should make the life altering decision that they're
not the gender that they are in their body. Now,
I don't even blame the kids, I really don't. I
(06:55):
blame the parents who are allowing this to become a react.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
You ever, notice how the more left wing you are,
the more likely you are to have trans kids. This
is the reality.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
There's lots of people in Hollywood that have multiple trans kids.
The idea of one parent having multiple trans kids is
statistically off the charts improbable. Yet it's happening all the
time in LA, it's happening all the time in New York.
The richer you are, the more of a celebrity you are,
(07:33):
the more likely you are to have a trans kid.
Does that make any sense?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Of course not. And so we have made a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Of decisions about the choices that kids should be able
to make and that their parents should be able to
make on their behalf. And we're going to talk at
two o'clock Eastern on this program with the Attorney General
of Tennessee, Jonathan Scermetti, who just won a six' to
Three Supreme court decision saying in the state Of, tennessee
you cannot treat someone to change their gender when they
(08:04):
are a. Minor this is hyper, rational this is basic common.
Sense the fact that we have such a delusion in
this country that all three left wing Judges Kagan sodomayor
And Katanji Brown jackson would all say the state shouldn't
be allowed to do this is a sign of incredible
(08:27):
mental illness on the left and how this woke virus
has spread that we have gotten here. AGAIN i would
just like to ask those three justices do you believe that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Fourteen year old should be able to get full body?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
TATTOOS i bet they would say, No, well the tattoo
is less significant medically than potentially sterilizing a child at
fourteen years, old which they are arguing the state should
not be able to.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Prohibit and SO i JUST i look at.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
IT i mean, AGAIN i think of this in the
context of, tattoos because it's a body altering in some way.
Procedure AND i don't think there's anybody in The Supreme
court right now who would, say, hey we are going
to disallow a state from prohibiting minors from getting. Tattoos that,
(09:26):
is in other, WORDS i think Nine Supreme court justices would, say,
yeah it's in the state's interest to allow us all
kids restricted from being able to get. Tattoos yet they're
going to say that it shouldn't be permissible for a
state to stop. This i'm sure there's knucklehead fourteen and
(09:47):
fifteen year old kids out there that have wanted to
get tattoos and have wanted to sue their parents for
not allowing it or the state for not allowing. It
but we would overwhelmingly, say, well that's. Appropriate so somehow
it has become orthodoxy on the left to allow. This
we'll talk about this With Jonathan. Scermadi but here's WHAT
i want to say. Too we should have national legislation
(10:11):
to stop this from. Happening AND i mean, AGAIN i
want to reiterate this because it's important because the result
here and Bravo, tennessee my home state for getting this
done and winning this. Case but the result is going to, be,
well we'll just travel To illinois and have this, surgery
or we'll just travel To New york and have this.
(10:32):
SURGERY a world just traveled To. California gender surgeries on
minors should be prohibited. Nationwide we shouldn't be allowing A
tennesseean or An, alabamian or A georgian or A texan
or A floridian to get on an airplane and travel
somewhere to get their genitals chopped. Off this is just
(10:57):
crazy town and the fact that this has Become Democrat party.
ORTHODOXY i just Read i'm IN dc right. NOW i
just read The Washington post headline on This Supreme court
decision AND i shared it on my social media account
ofment to go breaking. News this Is Washington. POST a
(11:18):
Divided Supreme court cleared the way for states to ban
certain gender transition treatments for. Miners even the phrasing is.
Dishonest but then listen to this a polarizing national? Issue
do you think this is really that? Polarizing every same
(11:39):
parent In america believes that miners should not be having these.
SURGERIES i think it's an eighty twenty. ISSUE i really,
do maybe ninety, ten but a polarizing national. Issue The
trump administration has seized on in initiatives targeting transgender. Rights
(12:02):
do you think that trans miners have a right to
chop their penis off at. Fourteen that's what they're arguing
a transgender right. Is do you think a girls should
have a right to chop her boobs off at fifteen
(12:23):
for the rest of her? Life do you think that
there should be a right to sterilize children in The
United states because their parents happen to believe this lie That,
SADLY i, MEAN i really do feel sad for these,
kids BECAUSE i think what the data shows is they
(12:46):
are profoundly, sad many of these, kids and they're looking
for a reason why they are profoundly, Sad and like many,
kids they latch onto an idea that is oftentimes not
accurate because they're teenagers and their brains aren't fully, developed
and they, decide if ONLY i were to take this huge,
(13:10):
step THEN i would be. Happier the Reason i'm not
happy is Because i'm a boy in a girl's, body
Or i'm a girl in a boy's. Body adults should, say,
no it's probably not the reason you're. Unhappy let's work
on trying to make you happier because you're an emotional.
Teenager let's try and bring you through. This let's also
(13:34):
maybe have, conversations that it's okay to be sad and depressed,
sometimes and that part of being an adult is working
through being sad and depressed without taking drastic. Action we
don't want you to feel, like, hey When i'm sad and,
DEPRESSED i have to go grab a bottle of, liquor
(13:57):
OR i have to use an illicit. Substance the best
way to deal with emotion is to work your way
through it to become a healthier. Adult it's not to
pretend the emotions are one hundred percent real and that
what you are feeling in a small moment of time
is actually representative of how you're going to feel at
(14:20):
thirty four or sixty four or hopefully ninety four one.
Day and SO i just feel like we have failed
in many parts of this country kids and pretending that
this is a normal thing and that we should in some,
why some ways affirm their necessity of these awful. Surgeries
we'll talk about it and we come. Back i'll take
(14:41):
some of your calls on, it but this is a
WIN i wanted to start. With we're also going to
update you on the Latest Iran israel. Issues we're going
to talk With senator Of Bill cassidy From louisiana bottom
of the third, hour and Again Jonathan, scurmetti The Attorney
general Of tennessee who won this Big Supreme court, ruling
will be with us top of the third. Hour but
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yes there needs to be a nationwide. Band why should
a kid in a red state be able to travel
to a crazy town blue state and get his genitals
chopped off there?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Anyway, anyway it should be legal, anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And it's, Absolute it's absolutely Bar barrick AND i think
a generation from. Now Producer ali was just, saying as
more and more of these young kids are detransitioning and, realizing, hey,
yeah that was a really bad. Decision many of them
are gonna want to have kids and they've made the
(17:17):
life altering decision to change their. Gender i've had a
ton of you out there were tom boys when you
were growing. Up you ran around wearing boy. Clothes maybe
some of you out there ran around doing feminine things
and then you grew up and you had your testosterone
or your estrogen pump into you as a puberty kid
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turning into an, adult and things even out for.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
You i'm going to keep hammering this BECAUSE i think it's.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
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Crazy they have what seven teams In canada and THE.
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different clips for you of some of the craziness going.
On President trump just up the street here IN, dc
addressed the media earlier About iran And, israel and we'll
talk about that some in the second. Hour but major
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Supreme court six', three, says hey we can't chop the
(19:05):
genitals off minors in the State. Of, Tennessee, now crazily
it's still allowed in Many other. Blue states it's Allowed,
in california it's Allowed, in illinois it's Allowed In, new york.
For instance my, concern, is, okay well you're just gonna
have kids crossing into. Other states we need federal legislation
(19:28):
that is going to prevent this from. Happening nationwide it's
just basic. Common SENSE and i think most of you
probably agree. With me and, you know this is one
of those Things where i'm out and sometimes when this
topic is, COMING up i meet, you guys and you
come up to ME and i can't tell you the
(19:48):
number of women in particular who have come up to me, and,
SAID hey i love, The Show love outkicks, sports fan
appreciate what You and. BUCK do i was, a tomboy
AND when i was ten, OR eleven i ran around
playing sports all the time. WITH boys i didn't want to.
WEAR dresses i like to play rough. With boys maybe you,
(20:12):
had BROTHERS maybe i had boys. Around you and, these women,
They say i'm concerned that if it had been this,
modern era somebody might have sat down with me, and
said do you feel more like a boy than, A,
girl well maybe you're just in the. Wrong body maybe
(20:35):
instead of letting eleven and twelve year old girls, grow
up actually become women who, have kids like many of
these women that are coming up, To me maybe that's
a healthier thing than presuming that a miner knows what
in the world they're.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
TALKING about, i, MEAN look i have.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Three kids my three year old and four year old
thought he Was a jedi for a. Long time we
let him dress up As, a jedi we let him
grow that Long like jedi braid that they're supposed to
have with.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Their hair we didn't actually think he Was. A jedi,
I mean i.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You, KNOW look, i win it would probably be really
cool if you had a kid and They had jedi
powers and, you know they could lift spaceships with their
heads and, you know with their hands and their.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Mind powers there's a lot of really cool stuff that.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Jedis do we let him dress up Like, a jedi
we let him pretend he Was. A jedi we didn't
actually take him to a doctor, and, say yeah he's A.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Real jedi.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And some of you out there had kids might have
thought they. Were dinosaurs. NOT uncommon a lot of you
have kids and they had. Imaginary friends you probably didn't
go to the doctor, and, say yeah we have not only,
one kid but we have an. Additional kid that imaginary friend.
(22:07):
IS real, i mean part of being an adult is
recognizing that young kids have very expansive imaginations and that's.
Very healthy but you don't treat everything that a young.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Kid says as if. It's REAL and i just it's.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
A lot of people want to focus on, the KIDS
but i think we need to be focusing more on
the adults because the adults are old enough to.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Know better and here's the.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
SAD thing i was Talking About New, York, City la
hollywood and how many celebrities have trans kids and how common.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
It is that's not about, The kid, i'm sorry that's.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The celebrity war wanting the attention because they have a
trans kid and they are. So, empathetic sadly it's not
about the kid. At all it's the celebrities narcissism of
wanting the kid to. Be unique and it's like it's
like a new fancy purse that. They have oh look
(23:20):
at my. Trans kid oh we HAVE to, i mean
it doesn't add. Up otherwise think about, it statistically what
are the chances that celebrity it's like one in every
five Kids in hollywood. Is trans what are the chances
that that would happen just. Naturally organically they have decided
(23:44):
this is the cause celeb that they want to pair
it and they want to carry around and it makes them,
so inclusive and the kid is the victim because kids
rely on parents to sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Say no.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
The healthiest thing that can happen to a kid is
not everything that the kid says being accepted as truth by.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
The PARENT.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I just i feel so bad for these kids
that we could be in. This Situation, julianne minnesota you're a.
NURSE practitioner i Bet Because tim wallas is the. Governor
there thank you could travel right Now to minnesota and
get your genitals chopped off because they think that's what healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Childcare is.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's rough let me, Tell you i'm so appreciative that
you're talking about. This topic it's Been something i've been
very vocal about for. Years now AND what i wanted
to share is some evidence based research because as providers
were supposed to practice via the evidence And The tavistock
Clinic in england when all of this gender transition, protocol
(24:50):
started that wasn't really based. In research so they decided
to do a longitudinal study and they found that the
top three reasons that people choose to transition, is autism
sex abuse or, sexual abuse and deep, seated homosexuality none
of those things which are solved. By transitioning so in
their research they found that after, one year suicide rates,
(25:13):
did drop but at the sixth and seven, year mark
the suicide rates beclaim sixty to seventy percent greater than the.
General population and, they determined like with all of the
side effects that these, medications cause like, you know inability, to, orgasm,
obviously infertility like all kinds of things that the benefits
did not outraigh, the risk and they closed the, clinic
(25:35):
down largest Clinic in Europe The. United states we just
ignore that and it's, so frustrating.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
So frustrating thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
For calling in and sharing, that study and that is
a very. Important study and again we are failing, the
kids and the parents that have allowed this, TO happen
i think are failing their children in a. Massive way
but if she just laid Out as julianne just laid,
out there the, medical profession they have tried to terrify
(26:10):
a lot of. Reasonable parents, your kid they're trying to
do the. Right thing this IS why i also feel
sad for. Some parents you're trying to do the. Right
thing your kid is depressed and sad and not making
good grades and. Not behaving and, every parent at some point,
in time probably certainly if you have, multiple kids one
(26:33):
of your teenagers, gonna rebel do, stupid things not be
the best version. Of themselves and as, a parent your
job is to help try to make that, end right
to help get. Through that so these kids they, get online,
they're reading, oh well the Reason why i'm so sad
Is because i'm actually a girl in a, boy's body
or vice versa or whatever. It, is they, you know belabor.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
The point with.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
The parents parents take them to, a doctor and you,
know what the, doctor says would you rather have a
live daughter or a live son or? A order, they
say would you rather have a live son or a,
dead daughter basically putting the child's life in the, parent's hands,
as if if you don't allow this, to happen your
(27:18):
kid is going to, commit suicide and it's going to be,
your fault, you bigot. You transphobe and then so many
parents out there they hear this, AND they, i mean
what is candidly the worst thing for most parents that
you could think.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Is that one of your children.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Commit suicide the idea of a child dying is awful
and hard for most parents to. Think about but for
a medical professional, to say your kid's going to commit
suicide's going to be your fault unless you allow me
to do this surgery, on them that's moral and intellectual
(28:03):
blackmail of.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
The parent So if i'm ranking the.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Blame on, THIS situation i would put medical professionals who
are willing to do these surgeries. On miners number, ONE
overall i think this is the most egregious form of
child abuse that has ever been allowed to occur in,
our lives certainly in the twenty. First century is that
people are making millions of dollars because these surgeries, aren't
(28:33):
cheap millions of dollars to forever alter. Miner's bodies there's,
something wrong in, my opinion with the morality of the
doctors involved in.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
The surgeries so that's.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Number one number two is parents who, encourage this and
number three. Is kids so medical professional who makes the
parents feel like in, the kid but the parents in
particular feel like are going to be the cause of.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
A suicide.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's, indefensible, second because by, the way imagine if take
away the, gender transition if your fifteen year old daughter
came and, she, SAID hey i need to get a.
BOOB job i don't know what age they do these,
things now but you took her to a plastic surgeon
and the plastic surgeon said, to you unless you do this,
(29:29):
boob job your daughter is going to.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
KILL herself i think.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Most of you out there would, be like this feels
a little excessive for. Plastic surgery unless you let your
son get this. Nose job he's gonna kill himself and
it's gonna be. YOUR fault i think most of you
out there would think that seems a little aggressive from a.
Plastic surgeon that would not be. MORALLY acceptable i. DON'T
think i hope that doesn't happen very often when you
(29:55):
go in for surgery cosmetic of. Your choice if the
doctor said for things that don't address, your gender hey,
knows job, BOOB job i don't know whatever else people
are having surgery on when they're. Teenagers cosmetically they Used
to there used to be a line back in the
(30:15):
Day when georgia was the only state just about In
the south that allowed scholarships for grades that there were
Like the University Of. Georgia, bulldogs yeah great football team
that kids who had college funds and had good grades
and didn't need their. Tuition dollars that the girls either
(30:39):
got new SUVs or.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
New boobs, it's.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Like, congrats dad you saved fifty thousand dollars for your.
Daughter's education she gets a, hope scholarship and now that
money isn't necessary for, the tuition what are you gonna do?
With it i'm gonna buy her. An suv. And boobs
that was the joke back in. The day but that's
at least. Cosmetic surgery the idea that you would be
(31:02):
in a situation where a doctor would be telling, a
parent your kid's gonna. Commit suicide unless you have gender,
altering surgery unless you let your kid chop his, penis
off he's gonna. Kill himself you can either have a
dead son or a. Living daughter that's the argument.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
They make.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's unbelievable intellectual blackmail should never. Be allowed a lot
of you want to, weigh in a lot of. Different
reactions will take some of those when we. Come back
we're going to Talk about Israel and iran in the.
Second hour but in, The meantime israel barraged with incoming
missile Attacks, from iran hundreds of missiles aimed at civilians throughout.
The country israeli's in bomb shelters at, all hours as
(31:48):
you have well, been following if you've had the news on. At,
all still there's been a lot, of casualties hundreds, of
injuries lots, of buildings, some deaths And The international Fellowship
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to israel's most, vulnerable people, the sick, the elderly families in.
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DOT org a bunch of you want to. Weigh in
let's take some of. Your calls Yvonne, in colorado what
you got? For us yvon thanks.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
For listening oh, thank You and god. Bless you you are.
So right you're taking the words right out of. My
Mouth and god Blessed the tennessee judges for the courage
to do the. Right things like, you said kids depend
on us to, protect Them and colorado. The MESS and
i want people to know nationwide and. Do so when
(33:14):
you mentioned a few of the states On the east
coast and On the, west coast that right here in
the middle there's a crazy, one too and that children
are not safe mentally or physically from This. In colorado, you,
KNOW yeah i want to SAY that i. WAS also
i was, very ATHLETIC and i was a tomboy, growing
up and YOU know i did things in line with
that in. My profession.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Did we lose her there for?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
A sec, i, mean look this IS what i hear
from so, many women and it's women. In particular they
come up to me, And say Thank. The lord this
didn't EXIST when i was a KID because i was
a tomboy and SOMEBODY if i didn't, have parents if they, suddenly,
said hey do you want to be? A boy who
KNOWS what i might have SAID when i, was twelve,
(33:57):
pre PUBERTY before i came.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Through adolescents Carol In, north carolina what you got? For us?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Are?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You hi thanks. FOR listening i just.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Want to let you know my son when he was
about twelve, years old he was, very small you'd got
his gross spurt till later on in. The teens and
he was sitting in the car one day and he said, To,
ME mom, i said what's wrong? With you you? Seem
sad and, HE goes i WANT to I wish i.
WAS black, i, said well why do you wish you?
Were black, he goes Because then i'd be good.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
At SPORTS and.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I know i'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
That conversation, GUESS what i didn't go try to figure
OUT how i could make. Him black, you know he's
now thirty six.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Years old you're still comfort comfortable.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
In his white. Skin now and you know most of
his friends. WERE black i guess they were bigger, than
him and he got teased a. Little bit but you
can't solve all. Their problems they have to just go.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
THROUGH it I wish i had.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
BIGGER boots i don't.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Have them thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
For calling you know what's actually funny about that is
it would be super racist for a white kid to identify, as,
BLACK right, i mean this was Basically The rachel dolazol Thing, In.
Spokane washington, they, said oh this white woman who was
pretending to be black and LEADING. THE naacp i believe
(35:14):
her Name Is. Rachel dolazol this is. Totally offensive it
was offensive and unacceptable for a white woman to identify.
As black but if that same white woman had identified
as a, white man it would have been courageous and
heroic and she would deserve affirmation and anyone who disagreed
(35:38):
with her perspective would be. A, transphobe right we don't have. Trans.
Religion sorry trans race would this all, the time and
they find Out Like, elizabeth WARREN oh I thought I Was.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Native American actually.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm not people have misguided ideas of what their racial background.
Might be but transrace, is racist transgender. Is heroic if
you had to choose which is a, bigger deal your
gender or, YOUR race i think most people would say
(36:20):
your gender is way harder to change than.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Your race we'll, keep rolling
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